r-i-i-c

[summer wren]

this what you mean:

[mortal lichen]

What are the recommended 4* & 5* to e2 for the base skill?

[knotty flax]

yes... yikes

[summer wren]

i dont have proviso... soo i really not sure for now while waiting, who to put

[knotty flax]

only proviso is recommended for base, everyone else you shouldn't e2 only for base

[mortal lichen]

For the whole base thing like factory TP

Ive use full babel ah and sui

[summer wren]

this is my current output:

[knotty flax]

you should for sure unlock the other sections you haven't already, there's no reason not to. Wis'adel is good for CC, idk about CE's skills specifically but amiya/walter/CE makes for a good team

I have a 252 with only a lv 2 office and max training room and workshop, so I don't know how to fully maximize 252 max right

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?usp=sharing

(you should look at this while my small brain works for you)

also downgrade your dorm. it's not worth it because your rotations are going to be 12h apart max

[summer wren]

okie already downgraded

[frank cipher]

/baseskill in #botspam
factory use all of them
tp 1. shama/teq/diamante
2. Exualter/Lemuel+ 30%
Sub
tp 1. jay/lapplan/30%
2. 3x30%
fac
just fill whatever left 20 or 25%
check base guide whenever pull new op, can't go more better than that

[knotty flax]

also consider tequila/Shamare (if you had Kafka or bibeak it would be a little better?)

[summer wren]

no have kafka and bibeak

currently just yellow certs but dont want to spend that for these guys

[knotty flax]

and don't upgrade jaye unless you're gonna use him, it makes his base skill worse

[torn meteor]

i do need to point out that is specifically if you dont have gnosis

[zenith python]

I already have two, but now that I think about it, using ops with chances to increase the order request by an extra bar or two probably isn't helping

[orchid bane]

Mines ?

Not sure what gold you are talking about

[jaunty notch]

mines = 1-7

[orchid bane]

Well if he want a number he could look up in penguin stat

I don't record it

Even if I record it this is still the most reliable number you can find

[desert notch]

Does setting Gold Bar amount to 99 even if they can't make it all, makes any difference?

Same with EXP

[jaunty notch]

if you put in less then they'll just stop at whatever the amount you set

when you collect it'll set back to 99 anyway

[weary aspen]

Am I supposed to run Provisio alongside 1 or 2 other worker on a level 3 TP?

[jaunty notch]

2 for lv3

[vital oriole]

its a relic of a past version of the mechanic, just max them every time

[wind otter]

those are just percentages, you are living a residency in those mines, so much data lost smh my head

[sharp tide]

In the activity room, will i get double the trust if using operators with different versions? (W and Wisadel/ Exu and Alter)

[jaunty notch]

yes, put every version in every trust slot

[spare pivot]

Oki oki

[pseudo jetty]

15 slot 252 loses 1 dorm?

[orchid bane]

I really don't have any reason to do that tho. This game will give me a ton of random stuffs (1-7 , friend shop, maybe even events ) . I just need to make sure I have strategy to deal with all of that

[fluid pollen]

If you’re TR3!

[stoic thistle]

2 days since I started optimizing my base, really huge improvements. I used to be getting less than 40k a day and now i'm getting 65k+

I can probably push this to 70k a day if I keep droning Proviso's tp but the problem is my gold starting to drain fast that's why most of my drones goes to gold

Maybe I should change one of my exp fac to gold for a few days? It will impede my exp gain but i'm not planning to raise anyone anyway and have enough saved to level 2~3 6* to 90. Man, 252 would be really great here

[winged hollow]

3 gold until 1000 then repeat

[dusky kindle]

So I'm trying to build my 12 hour rotation base team, mainly going to use dragon family, but I don't have flametail so who is the second best to swap in when dragons rest?

[frank cipher]

Ce wis amiyi

[winged hollow]

vivi mlynar mon3tr/kal amiyi smiley

you can replace smiley with eunectes if you choose dead lancet strat

[sterile bramble]

https://krooster.com/u/dietsnapplebtw

any factory setups I can make w what I have? Im running 252 with right max, 1 lvl 3 fac for gold, 2 lvl 2 facs for gold and 2 lvl 2 facs for exp

[winged hollow]

what is your setup rn

you have dorothy can make Rhine Lab combo

Lemuen Exu Proviso

[winged hollow]

Proviso is untrained come on

e2 your proviso first

[sterile bramble]

kk

[winged hollow]

dorothy need e2

e1 your purestream 40% gold with 2 tp

[wind otter]

||pc client ||

[wind otter]

in my years of Arknights I've never seen an influx of new players coming to the game as I've seen in the last few weeks, it's crazy

[sterile bramble]

prolly all the exu2 glaze

wonder if it was the same when wisadel came out

[wind otter]

Not to the degree of these past weeks, it started with the Limbus collab, and continues today. "I'm new, who should I build?" over and over again on reddit.

[fluid pollen]

At p5, hmm, seems like maybe it didn’t go to plan.

Probs optimal to just stay at p5 until next robot release

[uncut dome]

Keep going

Join me

[fluid pollen]

Will continue aft work and ping you if I do it!

[uncut dome]

How many have you done so far?

[sterile bramble]

is 252 max right still better than 243? and what combos do i use for lvl 2 facs

[fluid pollen]

Like 300+ I think?

I think phonor was worse.

[uncut dome]

Oh you're doing better than I did

[fluid pollen]

…and then got 3 of her this time

[uncut dome]

It took me 450 for P6

[fluid pollen]

Okay as long as I hit before 450.

Ez.

[uncut dome]

59 Yatos

[fluid pollen]

🥹

Why do we do this

[uncut dome]

Idk

[fluid pollen]

Do you have p6 Indra Vulcan btw?

[uncut dome]

No pls don't remind me

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

My Vulcan still P4

[fluid pollen]

Actual chore tier

Hard enuf to get 5* ops.

Getting those specifically is just ill.

[wind otter]

yes, combos in the spreadsheet in pins, link (4) = Special tab and FAC tab, your best individual workers and abyssal hunters for subbing

[wind otter]

only way I go for a robot tag is if the thing shows up alone, which it rarely does

[uncut dome]

I got 2 6* in 450 but no 5*

[fluid pollen]

I didn’t get shit

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

Makes sense…

[wind otter]

are you guys really hunting for robots, 3:50 recruits and all

[uncut dome]

Yes

I got 3 from 3:50 vg, 1 from 3:50 cc, only 1 from actual robot tag

[wind otter]

robot tag drops I assume

I mean, it's a goal, everyone should eventually do it

[fluid pollen]

Robot tag sucks

Yep.

[wind otter]

low rarity requires lower timing, lower timing increases chances of tags dropping = brilliance

[jaunty temple]

Can someone help me adjust my factories for lvl 3. This is my current preset setup and I feel like its pretty good I just need to add an extra person because it's lvl 3 now

[arctic prism]

got one of my friends to start last week after he was exposed to it from limbus too
supposedly the collab story was peak

[arctic prism]

can check pin 4 factory tab, or the noob tab might be more applicable depending on progression
kind of hard to give specific advice

[wind otter]

They seem to have gone a little crazy for some original character they made for the collab of some chick that is Church of the Deep, they were even lamenting her erasure by being a collab character. I finished the collab but skipped the story to catch up on the Limbus story before reading it, unless I quit Limbus first and just watch the story in youtube

but yeah, lots of "I am new, I come from Limbus" posts online. No way to tell, but it may be possible that the one way collab may have benefitted Arknights more than it did Limbus

[dawn forge]

whoever wrote this shit I hope you're happy because you should check kataokasan's pixiv rn

[rigid plume]

Jokes on you
I lik-

[dawn forge]

full ass Exu Lemuen tentacle dj

smh

[fluid pollen]

@uncut dome + 60 recruits + 11 Yatos later. Tagless 1hr.

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

[wind otter]

that's pretty badass ngl

[fluid pollen]

Must keep all recruit only at p6!

[round lichen]

o7

Never give up

[fluid pollen]

o7

[runic plover]

Just got Shamare E2'd, just making sure the order matters right?
Like I should put Kafka/Shamare/Tequila?

[dawn forge]

the order itself doesn't matter

what matters is once you use an order you stick to it

and doesn't shuffle the slots around (e.g. with Fiam resets, you have to put the resetted one back into the exact original spot)

[runic plover]

ah okay

[worthy dune]

what's even the roi for putting shamare e2 anyway?

[frigid zealot]

is it better practice to stack more big order chance when running her along with tequlia or is there some base skill that bypasses her contribution nullification

[spare pivot]

[uncut dome]

[spare pivot]

That's how you get robots?

Just put 1h, tagless?

[spare pivot]

teach me the way of 7

[uncut dome]

Just use Ange and Ely

Then Odda

Then add mr cursed guy

Send it all to him

[wind otter]

Fiammetta shoperator

[vagrant blaze]

if you're going for a specific robot, you can just use the regular tags
i got my p6 confess with only two robot tags

[queen flicker]

out of curiosity, how many recruits?

[vagrant blaze]

500 or so

got about 4 or 5 of the other robots

[round lichen]

If you already have Tequila and a Tailoring E2ed, I’d estimate around 1.5 years to pay for herself. Problem is, she’s not that great of a combo without them, and raising a Tailoring just for base takes double digit years to pay off

[worthy dune]

ty for the answer

[spare pivot]

oki oki

[spare pivot]

wwhose that?

[spare pivot]

nah, just any bots

[uncut dome]

He goes by HinataKawamoto

He should sound familiar

[spare pivot]

wwill do sir

if he addds me back

[uncut dome]

He's a regular here

[valid storm]

I thought that Hina was a girl

[fluid pollen]

Nope

Dude

[fluid pollen]

Was going for specifically Confess, so every tag set that wasn’t a 4* tag, or melee/vanguard, I just pressed 1 hr tag less for speed.

[spare pivot]

what does melee/vanguard give?

plume?

[fluid pollen]

Vanguard and melee and cc are Confess’ tags.

[spare pivot]

ohhh

[fluid pollen]

So just set to 3:50 to erm make the rng easier.

[spare pivot]

do you save up on recruits before doing this?

[fluid pollen]

Well you shld have recruits build up yea.

[spare pivot]

you should?

[fluid pollen]

Otherwise how do you expedite?

[spare pivot]

[fluid pollen]

We’re just burning tickets for fun.

[spare pivot]

I haave no tickets to burn

[fluid pollen]

Yea don’t do it

[spare pivot]

[fluid pollen]

It’s not worth.

You get random extra robots also

So if you have everything p6 it feels like a waste

[spare pivot]

only have one

[fluid pollen]

Not like you’re using robots for anything

Oops

[spare pivot]

Ig I'll start sving tickets noww

[uncut dome]

You only do it if you got nothing else to do

[spare pivot]

I guess I should start dipping my toes into IS

[uncut dome]

If you feel like your account is still progressing and you still want to chase some gold cert operators then you should be doing it daily to get income

[spare pivot]

I got ines

So I don't really need any gold certs anymore, ig extra would be nice to use on pulls

[fluid pollen]

Shld just do the daily recruits, don’t have to purposely go for robots unless you get the tag.

We’re just 4funning.

[spare pivot]

oki oki

[fluid pollen]

Holy is that Fiammetta in gold cert.

[uncut dome]

No, we're serious people here

This is serious business

[spare pivot]

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

mb

[pale yoke]

how often do you do clue exchange weekly?

[uncut dome]

Around 3 or 4 times maybe, idk

[fluid pollen]

When are you getting your p6 confess

[pale yoke]

Do we know how to get this yet?

[pale yoke]

I don't care for robot

[fluid pollen]

No, but isn’t that just buying a lore book when it comes out in Yostar store.

[pale yoke]

If robot and gold cert tag show up together I pick gold everytime

[fluid pollen]

Zyf would be familiar.

🥹

[pale yoke]

Lorebook so the store one

Guess I'm not getting this then lol

[fluid pollen]

Yep best bgm locked behind worst method.

Bad.

[pale yoke]

Same as Amiya skin

[fluid pollen]

And Lava

[valid storm]

We can fix that

[fluid pollen]

And Crois, and Exu, and furniture.

[pale yoke]

Yea after that I just stop collecting skin entirely

[fluid pollen]

I don’t got those powers, there’s no we.

[pale yoke]

the "if i can't get all then i won't try collecting the rest" feel

[fluid pollen]

Yea too poor for that too.

Can only do all ops 1 copy.

The rest is

[pale yoke]

[fluid pollen]

lol

[pale yoke]

i hate when small indie company does physical merch sales and i can't get it

[fluid pollen]

Is just not fun for anyone yea

Esp with their delivery fees

Merch isn’t very cheap either

[pale yoke]

only if zyf would sponsor me smh my head

[fluid pollen]

Actually, it’s not even close to affordable

Oh well

[pale yoke]

well guess ill stop buying background pack too

F2P btw

[fluid pollen]

[valid storm]

what stops you from getting the merch?

[pale yoke]

the tax would be like x3 the price of the merch

[valid storm]

you live in the US?

[pale yoke]

aus

[valid storm]

how much is the tax???

can't be more than what we have here

[pale yoke]

i rmb last time i check for the amiya book was x3 the total price

[valid storm]

the artworks vol 3?

[pale yoke]

say if the book is 50, the shipping + tax would be like 120 or smtg

[pale yoke]

was artbook 1 i checked

but was like no stock anyway i just had a look

[valid storm]

This is the one I can check

Yup, double the price for me

[pale yoke]

[valid storm]

I have 27% VAT

[pale yoke]

what currency is that

[valid storm]

HUF

[pale yoke]

[valid storm]

The shipping is expensive af

[pale yoke]

yea, a friend of mine purchase the book 1, waited like 8 months for it to ship i think
then the merch stuck in the port for like another half year lol

[pale yoke]

you got the amiya and lava?

[valid storm]

No, I haven't bought it

I only bought the comics and the PL bag and the camping set and the anniv boxes so far

[pale yoke]

get the receiver pay parcel and send yostar a tungsten cube

see how they like it to pay the shipping fees

[valid storm]

when sending back items, you have to pay for the shipping

[pale yoke]

yea i know, generally
but here we have a type of parcel that the receiver pay for the shipping fees
idk what it's called, i used it recently

[valid storm]

well, yes, but that's not what we have sadly

[floral owl]

maybe switch out a factory with another tp?

[valid storm]

Do you have Provisio?

And I think 3 level 1 dorms are better than what you have

[floral owl]

No proviso

[floral owl]

yeah i just added the third lv1 dorm

but still though 36.5k lmd only?

i heard 40k was like baseline

[valid storm]

You probably lack proper tp ops

[floral owl]

112% and 97% not enough?

[valid storm]

[floral owl]

i check it like 3 times a day too

[novel pier]

Probably.

I have 1 Tp and I make more than you. Proviso is just that op

[dapper sparrow]

Am i doing good with base?

[spare pivot]

the taxes being almost 9000 feels insane

[valid storm]

I have the highest VAT in the EU

[spare pivot]

holy

[wind otter]

is this a competition?

[pale yoke]

a race to the bottom lol

[wind otter]

[arctic prism]

this should average to 42.6k daily without drones
but we also need to see the ops you replace them with to get more accurate numbers

[floral owl]

i think its 87% and 87%

[arctic prism]

both at 87% would put you at 39k daily

but also the base reports in game show you how much you claimed that day rather than how much was actually produced that day so it's not 100% accurate

[floral owl]

so im claiming at the wrong times

[arctic prism]

• it's possible you got unlucky with your orders

[floral owl]

should i maybe replace 1 factory with another tp?

[arctic prism]

I wouldnt say that, it's just if you get a small number today you might get big number tomorrow, and so on

that's up to you
I personally wouldnt? but if you really think you need it then it's your choice

[floral owl]

how much would i be making with Proviso?

[arctic prism]

from your prev screenshots seems like you'd be using 30% ops with her so 49k
if you downgrade one of the tps, 48.5k

^this is using ambriel lemuen exu in one tp, and 30%s + proviso in the other

fyi this is all still assuming 0 drones spent on tps btw so you can easily boost these higher with those

[knotty flax]

are there any TP ops that reduce morale drain for other ops/whole TP?

(also, please rate my terrible base. i'm running proviso + poze/tuye/kirara)

[arctic prism]

Huhhh

[arctic prism]

most commonly used are mlynar or chongyue in cc
for people that have self md, can also take a look at waaifu, which negates self md within the same tp

and base report looks good to me

[arctic prism]

restarting the game fixed it god bless

[wind otter]

should have left things like they were and report what you saw when the time lapsed, for science

[arctic prism]

lmao thats potentially 3 whole days of no lmd

[wind otter]

[sour radish]

right now I have 2 good TP teams: e0 jaye/Texas/Lappland and E2 Proviso/Quartz, should I E2 shamare for another team

[frank cipher]

shama e2 90%
shama e2 teq 110%
shama e2 teq e2 125%

[wind otter]

[wanton coral]

how to downgrade rightside of base

[wind otter]

by opening a new account

[wanton coral]

then if i already level them i cant go for 2 5 2?

[wind otter]

you can still do 252 max right, it's the next best thing after 252 max left

[wanton coral]

the different from level 2 and 3 factory is capacity right?

if i check every 12h its gonna be no different isnt it

[arctic prism]

if your workers are too strong you'll need to check in and claim all your stuff before 12h

[wind otter]

yeah, you might not make it

[wind otter]

number of workers also

@pale yoke

[wanton coral]

i have 1k9 gold now and 252 - 2 Trading Posts (2 Lv3) | 5 Factories (1 Lv3, 4 Lv2) | 2 Power Plants (2 Lv3) how to speed up trading post (i currently 4 factory for exp and 1 for gold but was 243 before so i have too much gold)

[wind otter]

1. drone TP
2. get better TP workers
3. continue with only 1 x gold fac and your gold will eventually run out
4. ||take all your orundum, your primes, your credit card and go to the nearest standard or limited banner and pull until you get Proviso||

[winged hollow]

What happened if shamare combo doesn't have teq?

[rigid plume]

You won't get bloated numbers by 3-Gold+ trigger.

And she will be just fast Order cooking

[winged hollow]

So it just from 1000 to 2000 but not 2500?

[rigid plume]

Yep

You need Teq E2 to 2500.

[winged hollow]

I don't understand how shamare is important if teq is the one decided this combo matter in the first place? The 2500 thing

[rigid plume]

Read her E2 skill, plz

[winged hollow]

Ok

How preset work?

Does it reset sham ramp up?

[fluid pollen]

Basically Shamare is the one granting prod to that fac, and increasing rate of 4 gold orders for Teq to proc.

Preset doesn’t reset ramp.

[winged hollow]

It's basically preset replace the one i want to swap but keep the others in there initial slots right?

I always thought how it work like put them out then put them back

[rigid plume]

It's just quick shift change

You see that first shift is about to run out of morale
You switch to second shift
First one goes to Dorm to sleep

Repeat

[winged hollow]

I'm talking about staggered

[rigid plume]

You can do it manually, but...

[rigid plume]

Huh?

[winged hollow]

Basically i swap bibeak with kafka and repeat keep the rest

So i set it up like this sham bibi/kafka teq

What did i ask is if i swap it does it reset sham ramp or not

[rigid plume]

Didn't they both couldn't work more for one day?

I know only Fia could restore morale immediately

[winged hollow]

I run 24/7 and don't have strict rotation to check them out by making bibi/kafka i have more leeway

[rigid plume]

Either Bibi or Kafka should work the same amount of time as Teq or Shamare, I just cannot follow you why do you need to switch them.

[winged hollow]

Keep them efficient

I fia shan teq proviso

Fia rest for 9h

So you have backup for bibeak in the first place or two of them will have 8h left

And you have to choose one like i just did

Proviso is unchangeable

[fluid pollen]

If you’re just changing out Teq, it won’t reset Sham.

Preset doesn’t reset ramps as long as they stay in their initial spot.

Which it always shld.

No diff from changing it out manually

[winged hollow]

Perfect thank you

[honest urchin]

How do i make 252 if i cant downgrade one of my power plants because of insufficient energy?

[rigid plume]

You downgrade the Dorms.

To Lv1

[honest urchin]

Lvl 2 for all?

Lvl 1 is sufficient?

[rigid plume]

Lv2 first, Lv1 the rest.

[honest urchin]

This is excluding the play room right?

[rigid plume]

???

Play room?

You mean Activity rooms on far right?

They don't waste power.

So don't even bother about them.

[honest urchin]

Im at 2 1 1 1 now

But i still cant remove power plant lvl 1

[rigid plume]

You have both TP Lv3?

[honest urchin]

1 at lvl 2

Man my base is a mess rn

[fluid pollen]

Downgrade factories.

[honest urchin]

Damn lmd

[honest urchin]

One of them?

[rigid plume]

You may downgrade Dorm one more

[honest urchin]

Oh ok

[rigid plume]

If it sufficient

[fluid pollen]

3 of them to lvl 2.

Dorm can stay at lvl 2.

[honest urchin]

I still cant though

[rigid plume]

Ok, so Fac only left.

[honest urchin]

All dorms lvl 2 and all 5 factories lvl 2?

[fluid pollen]

Just look at my ss.

[honest urchin]

Ok

[rigid plume]

No

[honest urchin]

What you mean no

[rigid plume]

Follow the screenshot plz

[rigid plume]

No to this

[honest urchin]

Sure

Okay so now what setup is the best for basically everything? I dont have dedicated units built for production except provisio

[wind otter]

bad idea to downgrade factories with cn livestream around the corner with 100% true base update announcement

[honest urchin]

These 2 already okay for lmd?

[fluid pollen]

🥹 mega cope.

🥹

[wind otter]

[stoic spoke]

Is activity room deconstruction possible?

[honest urchin]

Also for the 2 max factories and 3 lvl 2 , which one should get exp and gold?

1 exp and 1 gold for lvl 3 , 1 of lvl 2 for exp , rest on gold?

[lethal trellis]

Is this the famous 252 formation?

[fluid pollen]

The famous bricked 252.

[spare pivot]

Base update?!

[rigid plume]

I think it may, but it's pointless anyway.

It doesn't release power or anything.

[pale yoke]

[pale yoke]

No leak get ban

[valid storm]

what to do with the leek then?

[tame granite]

How single target dorm skill targets ops?

[valid storm]

usually randomly

[tame granite]

So single target skill just always worse, than multi target?

And fiametta recovers morality the best?

[valid storm]

not quite because they can't target full morale operators,

And Fia morale recovery is the best because she doesn't receive bonuses from others

[tame granite]

Worst*?

I just tested. Fia recovers longer, that non fia at the same morality value

[valid storm]

Well... She's a double edged sword

she can instantly recover anyone

but she will have a fixed recovery time

[tame granite]

I think she can't receive recovery even from dorm

[valid storm]

I think she can do that

[tame granite]

Because she recovers 12 morality in 5 ours, wisadel recovers 12 morality in 2 ours
I think it's because i have mlynar at central room

[valid storm]

it's possible

[tame granite]

Okay, return to ST skills

I think that shining with +0.75 ST recovers 4 opers longer than durin with +0.25 MT

[valid storm]

Yes, because 0.75 ST is equal to 0.175 MT if you have 4 others

at 3 it's the same

[tame granite]

Yeah

[lost osprey]

hey guys, how's fia base skill works?

[valid storm]

you put in dead operator, you add max morale Fia, they swap morale, Fia goes to sleep

it's important to add Fia into the dorm, that's when her skill triggers

[lost osprey]

so if i wanna recover proviso, first thing i need to do is putting her first before anyone else, then fia?

[valid storm]

yes

[frank cipher]

how i do https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648597683031900200/1270663990531461210/Screenrecording_20240807_160810-ezgif.com-speed.gif?ex=68fc8e0f&is=68fb3c8f&hm=cc8cb8d1c101370b271b6fd83c55c77c1c66f098518ff7abbe13763d48be6d4f&

[lost osprey]

ah i see

many thanks guys

[orchid bane]

Random stuffs in confess

[spare pivot]

[winged hollow]

would you rather go for extra fac 5% or tp 5%?

[valid storm]

global or single facility?

[lunar condor]

what's best orundum layout for this right side?

have a little too much money

[valid storm]

right side? Not being touched

[lunar condor]

yes, i just mean with the power demand from that side

as opposed to maxed right

[valid storm]

you only need the left side for any production

[lunar condor]

yes, i am asking which left side layout is ideal for orundum farming when you have that right side

[valid storm]

your usual left side is all you need

[lunar condor]

252?

[valid storm]

yes

[lunar condor]

ok thanks

[valid storm]

1 or 2 factory can produce more than enough shards

[leaden grove]

Wrys answered well but I think you can just dedicate one of your factory to shards, then convert to 342 to convert them when you’re done

Since you have so much lmd, maybe you just keep 252 and catch up after making the shards

[lunar condor]

gotcha thanks

[winged hollow]

single

[wind otter]

yes, we are waiting for the future-proof base update that will make everyone happy forever and ever until the end of time

[wind otter]

no leaking, just psychic powers

[wind otter]

Step 1: Place dorm workers
Step 2: place op you want as target for S/T

Single target and AOE dorm workers can work together

[finite hill]

Is the highest I can get as a beginner?

[arctic prism]

that looks very good for a beginner

ig depends on how beginner we're talking but yea

[finite hill]

Oh, alright

I started playing just last month

[craggy prawn]

Pretty good.

[weak fiber]

@unique mauve was wondering why should I e1 vigna

I just saw in the guide it says e0

[unique mauve]

my bad, I always forget she has the exp skill at e0

ignore it, dw

[weak fiber]

Oh okay

[weak fiber]

I tried my best to make a half decent preset I also don't have the robot sadly but wdyt

[unique mauve]

do one thing, send me your krooster

[weak fiber]

https://krooster.com/u/steady-magenta-kjera-18kw

I'm sorry if I'm frustrating btw I really struggle with understanding base stuff

🥹

[unique mauve]

@weak fiber I forgot to ask, are you using 252 with two lv3 fac and three lv2 ones?

[weak fiber]

Nope three lvl 3s and two lvl 2

I have a lvl 2 tp btw idk if that matters

With proviso and e2 vigil

[unique mauve]

@weak fiber

this for factories, once you get Castle use her instead of the Silence/Ptilo slot

[weak fiber]

Woah tysm jj you're the best thanks a lot a lot 🥹 💗

[round lichen]

Mulberry was locked on as the target, when you took Gracebearer out she released her lock on Mulberry, then when you put her back in found Kaltsit as a better target and locked onto her

[round lichen]

Unless there’s a translation error with the skill, Clio is correct here. Fia recovers 2 morale per hour regardless of any other sources of morale recovery, Dorm level or ambience included

[pale yoke]

You know they the real one when you have nothing and they still check up on you

[pale yoke]

Me everyday of the week when I forgot to take my meds

[arctic prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588921614303233/1118203518449360896/lv_0_20230603164315.gif

[jaunty notch]

||Hmm i haven't received anything from my work email yet||

[wind otter]

Really? Last time I did that and you called me a stalker

[wind otter]

they may be unto you gato, keep a low profile

[wind otter]

||just to be sure, did you check junk mail? ||

so this credits thing can be replaced with new furniture, what a time to be alive

[orchid bane]

[tame granite]

Is it a lot or not?

[glad hazel]

For TP combo, is E0 lappland + texas + E2 jaye enough or i need to build lappland/texas as well?

[frank cipher]

guide tell how much e0/e2 give % differently

[pale yoke]

because you are

[sullen sierra]

Day 7 in, got flamed for 333 now 243 is there a table anywhere for operator combos? Also is proviso hard to come by?

[rigid plume]

Now get flamed again and build 252 now.

[sullen sierra]

Nahh hard pass, it looks hideous and the spreadsheets are to autistic

Happy to lose a small ammount of efficency for aesthetics

[wind otter]

them's fighting words

[rugged phoenix]

How much does one level from reception room decrease production by?

[south geyser]

is it worth e2-ing kaltsit for this purpose

[pale yoke]

[fluid pollen]

Small amount of efficiency eh….

[round lichen]

*ammount of *efficency

Dumbass

Why even come here if you’re going to be so proud of your own ignorance

[round lichen]

Don’t bother E2ing anyone except Proviso if you’re purely focused on base. If you’re wondering if you should E2 her for gameplay, that’s something only you can decide. If you do end up raising her, it’s certainly worth considering using her in CC

[nimble inlet]

which one to reduce to get more training room levels (i maxed office by mistake and my RR is at lv2)

or should i wait with training room levels until all my squad is e2?

[sullen sierra]

Poverty must be rough

243 is superior tho

[spare pivot]

I'll be waiting for it too

[spare pivot]

Is this ragebaiting or what??

[pale yoke]

@wind otter wake up base update is here

[strange sorrel]

is 54k average lmd/day good for a 252 base with provisio?

[stoic thistle]

Pleasee new stuff for base

[pale yoke]

[vagrant blaze]

PC client when

[valid storm]

there's no pc client in ba sing se

[spare pivot]

[spare pivot]

just do with play gaames beta

[frank cipher]

not making 60k with prov is base issues, 55k lmd is good tho

[vagrant blaze]

gplay has this weird tendency to delete the game

[scarlet swan]

is this a better 252 than 2 lvl3 tp if i have prov?

Also, can yall handhold me a rotation 🥹

[pale yoke]

yes

GRINDSTONE next unlimited

[scarlet swan]

Huh?

[fluid pollen]

Yep actual dead mat.

[pale yoke]

sorry was following up on previous convo with regular here

[scarlet swan]

Ahh ok

[pale yoke]

not directed at you

[pale yoke]

currently have 410 oof

[spare pivot]

was about to start farming, ig I'll continue farming aketon

[fluid pollen]

No one used that shit ever

And no longer

It'll stay 400+ forever

[pale yoke]

i farmed aketon and blue mats, we will be using the blue one a lot more in the future

[fluid pollen]

yea gel seems fine..

[pale yoke]

nah, it will keep going higher

[spare pivot]

which blue one?

[fluid pollen]

true

[pale yoke]

compound cutting fluid

[spare pivot]

do I farm MT 10?

[pale yoke]

well i am, idk about you

[spare pivot]

I wasn't farming it cuz #event-info said it wasn't efficient to farm

[pale yoke]

well with what we know now, guess what else should value at literal 0

tbf we did go into this event knowing all 3 mats are kinda bad to farm but you still want to clear store

[spare pivot]

yeah...

[spare pivot]

what are the highest prio mats to farm for?

[pale yoke]

i have almost 500 aketon, and 200+ fluid, so ill be farming 7;3 fluid to aketon

lmao new furniture

[spare pivot]

hmmm , I'll do 5:5

[pale yoke]

|| estelle skin ||

[spare pivot]

fr it's cute

most of them are

[meager meadow]

another livestream of "how to cuck max right users"

lovely

[scarlet swan]

Wha happen

[meager meadow]

next anni/half-anni: all support units can hold 6* units 🔥 🔥 🥀 🥀

[meager meadow]

masteries aren't locked for support units borrowed from randoms anymore

in short, borrowing a support unit from a random works the exact same as borrowing from a friend now

[scarlet swan]

Btw, is there a 252 combo guide?

[meager meadow]

gato's sheets

go take a look in there

[scarlet swan]

What do the different arrows mean 💀

[meager meadow]

anw you can now...send all clues and receive all clues with one button itself....peak base qol.....sasuga hai mao, hideo kojima of gacha....

[meager meadow]

arrows?

do you mean the sheet names?

wtch1 and stuff

[scarlet swan]

Is this the guide?

[meager meadow]

no

hang on

in the pins

click the 4th link

aka Base Combo Guide

[scarlet swan]

Alr 👍\

[meager meadow]

in the info section, check BlackGatoAccer's rotations

[frank cipher]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648597683031900200/1210138343241682944/Media_240222_012335.gif?ex=68f3f5e8&is=68f2a468&hm=1ec168d3da9b353651cbbc8813d746375339a4de4900d0e5a0914d6c5ce6fefd&

[scarlet swan]

I did this
Now tryna find combos for it

Teq/sham can stay the same?
What about prov now?

[meager meadow]

1. yes
2. use her with best % worker

[scarlet swan]

Also, this is good cc right?

[meager meadow]

decent at best

ok i will be frank

it is inefficient

bad even

it only has a factory buffer in 1 rotation

tp buffers are absent

[scarlet swan]

Should i drop a ss of my ops?

[meager meadow]

yes

ideally you should have a krooster but that works too

[pale yoke]

okay so one thing we get to copium is we will get another abyssal hunter

so 50% abyssal 1 slot is happening

[scarlet swan]

I did set up a krooster but smth bugged and its not working

[meager meadow]

how so

failed to import?

[scarlet swan]

Kinda, i did it once but everything wiped

[meager meadow]

how long ago did you set it up

krooster has come a long way since the start

[scarlet swan]

A year almost

[meager meadow]

then set it up again today

[scarlet swan]

Alr

[meager meadow]

it's miles easier

[pale yoke]

yea they did wiped once, mine was wiped too i had to redo it lol

[scarlet swan]

Do i sign up again or log in then?

Coz log in doesnt work anymore (brain fried)

[pale yoke]

try logging in again then

idk about your situation but i can confirm they did a wipe once sometimes ago and i lost my krooster too

[scarlet swan]

So like, is my old krooster just deleted?

Well, idk but i got a new one

https://krooster.com/u/ash_breacher

[tight bane]

whats the average income of money on a day basis from the base/

[meager meadow]

depends on team and base setup

assuming you run a regular base (252 max right) with no proviso, you can expect 40-50k LMD with 2x 12h rotations collected

if you include proviso (at e2) with her as your droning target, that's +10k to the amount

[round lichen]

Called it

This shit is so ass

[scarlet swan]

Can sum1 handhold me a base rotation pls
👉👈🥹

My base is bricked rn cuz i swapped into 252 without any idea 🥹

[visual gyro]

Is scene really worth it?

[round lichen]

No

But if you already have her raised and it won’t interfere with your other rotations to run her for 30+ hours, Vermeil Pallas Scene does eventually beat 3x35%

[orchid bane]

By 1%

[round lichen]

Not gonna build you a full rotation, but you could do
CC: Młynar Eunectes Paprika Mon3tr Scavenger

PP: Lancet Greyy

FAC: Weedy Purestream

[orchid bane]

Also the different between Ceobe and Pallas in Vermeil team is way less than that

[round lichen]

Wdym?

Vermeil Pallas Scene outpaces 3x35% after 29 hours
Vermeil Ceobe Scene takes 45 hours, which also requires that you have someone in CC helping with Morale management

[winged hollow]

what about 40x40x35

[round lichen]

Off the top of my head the only 40% EXP workers I know of are the AHs

[winged hollow]

conviction wf minimalist come on

[round lichen]

Conviction is 35

And Minimalist is locked to 243

[winged hollow]

but it's possible

[round lichen]

But Waai Fu and Wild Mane with Fartooth and JK could work in 252 ig

[wind otter]

ib4 abyssal alter so doesn't work

[wind otter]

according to the very accurate UTC-7 time conversion I did days ago, the CN livestream does not happen until 3 hrs from now

[wind otter]

I would trade whatever that clue QoL thing is for the simple QoL of ordering the clues you receive by receiving / expiring order smh

[orchid bane]

someone in CC for ???

[orchid bane]

I want quick friends visit

[wind otter]

blame visit speed on people that decorate reception with a gazillion plaques on the wall

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

oh yeah, another Monster Hunter collab, let the MonHun combo buff cope begin

[orchid bane]

But will there be another Gnosis combo ?

@wind otter give me 2 more nodules

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

Crap

[wind otter]

nodules doko

[orchid bane]

Doko doko

[wind otter]

they're back on the E15 run you skipped

[fluid pollen]

Shlda only asked for 1…

It was simply too much greed

[wind otter]

yeah, red too greedy

[fluid pollen]

Really?

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

[orchid bane]

I need 2 for skill 1 exu2

[fluid pollen]

what ya gonna use s1 for?

Look pretty?

[wind otter]

100%

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

skill 1 sucks ||without masteries ||

no noods, I'm not joking, they announced it

[orchid bane]

these will be opened later

[fluid pollen]

Oh.

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

Erm well destroyer of worlds Durin?

[orchid bane]

Oh 2* alter again

That is cool to have

[wind otter]

don't forget to ask only for 1 nodule

[orchid bane]

That will be around 100 tier 3

[fluid pollen]

Does this mean they rerun Yato

[orchid bane]

Why is Soubo Adventures change to MH party ?

[fluid pollen]

collab banners are cursed man.

[orchid bane]

I think they should be, we already got ash rerun

[orchid bane]

And wth is Soubo ?

[fluid pollen]

No idea!

[wind otter]

no rerun of the first one announced yet, I think, they only confirmed the third monhun collab

[orchid bane]

Choose
119 pulls only 1 6*
Or
6 star rate up at 119

[fluid pollen]

Every bloody banner yep

[wind otter]

have you tried pulling better

[wind otter]

I'd swear I've seen that before, may be false memory though

[fluid pollen]

In many years of playing gacha.

I have not managed to learn to pull better

[scarlet swan]

Is this a good rotation

[wind otter]

enroll in gacha university, that easy

[orchid bane]

I tried to pull gooder

[fluid pollen]

Am just satisfied if I don’t get hard shafted anymore….

[orchid bane]

I don't like MH team atm

[scarlet swan]

Who do i put there?

[orchid bane]

Oh you waste amiya slot then

[fluid pollen]

That’s e0 Noir

[scarlet swan]

Yes

[fluid pollen]

There’s nothing wrong

[orchid bane]

Amiya kal +1 for something, and a 40%

[scarlet swan]

40%?

[orchid bane]

Lul, I have e2 noir with E0 noir Art quipped

[fluid pollen]

…

[fluid pollen]

He’s just saying this bc he doesn’t like Yato’s MD issues, but looks fine.

Lemme check what civilight does again.

[scarlet swan]

🙁

[scarlet swan]

Morale restore for wish skill procc + rr i think

[orchid bane]

You said it like that is not an issue

[fluid pollen]

It’s simply not an issue tho

[scarlet swan]

What about this then

[orchid bane]

No need sail

You could use alter team for last slot

Hibi2 lava2 kross2

[scarlet swan]

I only got smiles alters and r6
And these ones (plus formation 2 draft guys)

[orchid bane]

And if you have a 40% in TP to replace "the catto ?" then I rec that team more than MH team

[scarlet swan]

Any one? Or all three?

[fluid pollen]

Smh lose 1% tp for fun.

[orchid bane]

Anyone

[orchid bane]

At E0 btw

[scarlet swan]

So this?

[orchid bane]

Ye

It just 1 % TP

[scarlet swan]

Alr tyy
Also formation 1 is mly eunec paprika scav monst3r
Is that okay?

[orchid bane]

Yea that is fine

You got eunec dead lancet team right ?

[scarlet swan]

Idk, someone told me to put her

[orchid bane]

Lul

[scarlet swan]

So i never put lancet on dorm amymore?

[orchid bane]

She need full team

[fluid pollen]

Actually is there even a need to do it this way, can just kick Mly, run Wis Civil first, and then do 2 alters + MH for 2nd no?

Seems comfy enough.

[scarlet swan]

Should i send roster?

[orchid bane]

Weedy E2, Greyy2 E2 . you got them ?

[scarlet swan]

Weedy yea, gray2 no

[orchid bane]

So no dead lancet

How good is alive Lancet nowadays I wonder

[fluid pollen]

Better than dead

It’s only dead bc greyy wants it so

[scarlet swan]

Wis civ + 2 alt, whos the 5th guy?

[orchid bane]

Yea, that is ofc, I just asked how good are they in general

[fluid pollen]

Wis Civ Monst3r Eun Amiya
2 alters + 2 MH + Paprika.

[fluid pollen]

Not bad

Esp if still have space in cc

[scarlet swan]

So this?

[fluid pollen]

Yea, Yato lasts past 24hrs here so shld be pretty comfortable to run.

Ard 28hrs uptime in total if you mess up and don’t rotate base somehow.

[scarlet swan]

Alr, what about rr

[fluid pollen]

Just look at pin 4 and figure out how RR calcs.

[scarlet swan]

Alr

[fluid pollen]

Shld be simple to understand

General factory workers are all there also

[wind otter]

Ho'olheyak finally getting a good skin

[scarlet swan]

Is this alright 🥹

[tight bane]

okay then

[stoic spoke]

Why is lancet alive

[wind otter]

they are both alters the sudden realization

[wind otter]

no grey alt

[round lichen]

Scene dies in 36 hours if you don’t have Młynar/Wiš/Chongyue

[stoic spoke]

[orchid bane]

Yea but I am comparing ceobe and pallas

[orchid bane]

You made it sounds like Ceobe need someone in CC, Pallas doesn't

[round lichen]

Scene will die before the Ceobe version breaks even with 3x35% if you don’t have someone in CC to help with morale

[orchid bane]

Yea, just rest them all

I don't see any problem with that

Scene can work for 36.9hr

So 3 shift and rest them all

[modern rover]

You could also stagger your rotations. The FEater Castle preset for exemple. You can remove Jessica from second rotation and add Feater in it, create a third rotation with Perfumer and Castle. That way you remove a suboptimal character and reduce the load on dorms.

[orchid bane]

And this is wrong

Ceobe 36hr is 40.583%

Already pass 3x35%

Pallas is 41%

So Pallas is 0.317% more than Ceobe

[pale wind]

is trag and cat combo going to better than them? i want to get rid of scene

[orchid bane]

No

Scene Pallas team still best team

[pale wind]

i don’t have pallas

[orchid bane]

Ceobe ?

[pale wind]

yeah

[orchid bane]

Just use Ceobe

[orchid bane]

.

[pale wind]

but i hate scene getting tired faster, i want something more stable

[orchid bane]

Yea, that works for your OCD

Just fine

[pale wind]

how much they lose to ceobe and scene?

[orchid bane]

Tbh Idr

Vermeil trago and cat is 101%

[scarlet swan]

Alr thanks
Do i stagger the other lvl2 facs too?

[orchid bane]

They all can work for 53.3 hr, so you can make them 48hr shift

[scarlet swan]

Also, do i go out of my way to get grey2 for the ‘dead lancet’ thingy?

[orchid bane]

Greyy2 is good in IS

So it is never so bad to raise him

Bro carry both base and gameplay, and the electricity problem in Dorothy vision

[scarlet swan]

Where do i get him tho

[orchid bane]

Maybe free in January if you already have Proviso Idk, maybe lucky in gacha

[scarlet swan]

Oh hes gacha?

[orchid bane]

Ye

[modern rover]

yes they should be able to stagger too. howerver weedy might need to be with purestream + another character that works with her ability. I don't think almond and aroma works for staggering with Weedy.

[scarlet swan]

So weedy is non stagger, alr!

[round lichen]

It takes 5 hours for Scene and Ceobe to ramp up
In that time, 3x35% will consistently give 105 productivity

During that time, the deficit grows as follows
Hour 1: 91-105 = -14
Hour 2: 94 -105 = -11
Hour 3: 97-105 = -8
Hour 4: 100-105= -5
Hour 5: 103-105= -2
Total: -40

Any subsequent hours will have 106-105= +1. So it will take 40 hours to make back the deficit, plus the 5 hours of ramp up

[orchid bane]

Lolololololol

You want me to prove you wrong that bad ?

[round lichen]

Please, go ahead

[orchid bane]

So...

Oke

Why is your %

Convert directly into hours ?

You just make a bunch of % minus %

And turn them directly into hours

[round lichen]

Because,,, that’s how the ramp up works,,,,,,

[orchid bane]

I just gonna

Put right way to calculate here

Get it or not is up to you

Ceobe in vermeil team

36% to 41% in 5hr

In 36hr

( 36 + 37 + 38 + 39 + 40 + 41 * 31) /36

For example if you want to know how is she in 48hr

( 36 + 37 + 38 + 39 + 40 + 41 * 43) /48

[uncut dome]

Red you're wrong...

[fluid pollen]

🥹

[round lichen]

THANK YOU

[uncut dome]

You're not even accounting for total...

[fluid pollen]

Scene…..

[uncut dome]

Pallas is the one that's fine, Ceobe just can't catch up in time

[orchid bane]

Also only took 15hr to break even with 3x35%

And zyf is trolling

[uncut dome]

Red I literally have a calc for this

[orchid bane]

[round lichen]

Lemme guess

[orchid bane]

And where do I go wrong ?

[uncut dome]

You were not accounting for total average

[orchid bane]

Oke

Why ?

[round lichen]

Ceobe 36-hour avg: 40.583
Scene 36-hour avg: 48.166
Vermeil: 16

[orchid bane]

Ok

[uncut dome]

Needs 45 hrs to match 105%

[orchid bane]

Forget about scene ramp

[uncut dome]

That means you didn't read what he was saying earlier

[orchid bane]

[orchid bane]

Oge

Your math is terrible but this is right

[uncut dome]

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

🥹 where update bro

[fluid pollen]

Tbf there’s not much changes…ig

[uncut dome]

Uhm sorry Red but it's not his math, you just didn't understand quickly...

[uncut dome]

My 100th time saying, I'll try doing it later!

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

T’was a joke!

Shld just learn to update it locally hmm.

[pale wind]

so after the discussion is the tragocat combo better than ceobe’s or are they always worse?

[round lichen]

3x35% > Verm + Ceobe + Scene > Verm + tragocat

So if you have Tragodia and 2 more 35% (Conviction, FEater, Crownslayer) that is the best combo

[wind otter]

here you go, take it

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

I almost failed the screenshot

[orchid bane]

Started to burn this a week ago

This later

9cd is working 3 4 times perday

[wind otter]

let Fia rest smh

[orchid bane]

Who say anything about fia?

[wind otter]

you're not refreshing 9CD with Fia?

[orchid bane]

No. God

[wind otter]

[thin minnow]

Fiametta alter when

really shake up base rotations

[wind otter]

^ 2nd Fia

[orchid bane]

Mostima alter, swap morale with fia

[wind otter]

I'll take anything that helps me refresh PI a little bit

[uncut dome]

Weird edit

Not as clean as your other works

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

started doing that some weeks ago, had around the same number of blue books as you

[wind otter]

c'mon zyf, nodules aren't that rare to warrant photoshop, unless you're red

[wind otter]

Tragodia and Leizi Alter mats crafted and ready, commence crafting for Hoshi Alter and Haruka batch

[fluid pollen]

Please donate skill books.

[wind otter]

not enough skill books?

[pale yoke]

yall neglecting your skillbook

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

noods is even more efficient, he has zero

[pale yoke]

i wouldn't go to 0 since every new ops need lv1 to 2 lol

idk if i would call going zero as efficient

[fluid pollen]

I have 0 blues.

[wind otter]

for real?

[uncut dome]

[wind otter]

noods literally skill issue

[spare pivot]

[pale yoke]

[spare pivot]

[fluid pollen]

🥹 this might be true

[wind otter]

dw, we're just two days away from this, problem solved

[scarlet coral]

I can finally do lancet 2 powerplant meme stuff

[spare pivot]

[fluid pollen]

complete cookery.

[valid storm]

or just buy a few packs

[wind otter]

you want that season 4 don't you

[valid storm]

Yes

And the movies

and your credit card

[wind otter]

[fluid pollen]

defs starved for mats rn

[fluid pollen]

Could go from 0-90 quick…maybe wrys is right

[torn meteor]

ngl im not a huge dead lancet believer ik its one of the more efficient things you can do but personally i prefer not to cuz i value TP productivity higher than factory productivity so losing the drones isnt something i love then theres also that i cant autofill my dorms anymore if i have dead lancet and like thats a lot of extra trouble for a not super significant increase

[scarlet coral]

I agree with the crossout but also she lets me do other optimizations cause I'm a 243 pleb who doesn't want to take the 2 minutes to change

[valid storm]

I have nothing left thus I'm always right

[orchid bane]

I have nothing right cause I am always red

I mean left

[fading jacinth]

Are you alive

[strange sorrel]

is this decent at all?

~55k average lmd w/ pro🅱️isio

or is there some way I can improve my base still?

[chilly mirage]

Gng I really don't understand rotations dawg, after like 2-3 times of pressing the rotate button, a lot of units end up perma fatigued

Not only that but I only make 20k lmd so I'm not even cooking

[rare garden]

You don't put them to rest?

[rare garden]

Looks good to me.

I have worse stats.

[chilly mirage]

I do i think☠️😭

I don't even know how to get 40k per log in💔

I'm so cooled

Cooked

[rare garden]

Log in every 12 hours.

That's what I did.

[chilly mirage]

Blud done finished all of ch 15 adversity but can't even get 40k per log in💔

[chilly mirage]

But I do that tho💔

A while ago i only got 18k💔

[rare garden]

Lemme check base

You doin 252?

[chilly mirage]

They're all 0 rn and I'm resting ALL ops for now