help

[mild yacht]

If it’s taking that long to kill seaborn, you’re not killing fast enough.

[vital kelp]

no

[scenic wharf]

[lyric lagoon]

raising one just for elemental damage is unnecessary for the majority of the time

[sturdy drift]

I still need to get purestream. I've been trying to get her from recruitment

[mild yacht]

Therapists not named Lumen only reduce status effect duration.

[scenic wharf]

we dealt with seaborn annihilations without wandering medics, you'll be alright

[faint lotus]

That’s often enough

[vital kelp]

thats often not needed

u dont use purestream for cc removal

[obtuse obsidian]

its often better then lumen ammo too

[sturdy drift]

Does "status resistence" remove elemental damage?
I have ceylon

[lyric lagoon]

status effects and elemental damage are two diff mechanics (though elemental damages can additionally apply status effects)

[wraith sentinel]

Status Resistance halves duration of Negative Statuses.

[mild yacht]

The description says it only reduces the duration.

[modern gust]

how exaclty does gummy s2 work

[vital kelp]

she cook then she heals

[obtuse obsidian]

she does nothing for 10 seconds then she do what spot does

[mild yacht]

She stops hitting things for ten seconds then heals anyone around her who gets a papercut.

[sturdy drift]

Oh so therapists reduce negative effects and out of the therapists, purestream specifically removes elemental damage

[vital kelp]

no one said that

[formal shadow]

[mild yacht]

Purestream is the easiest therapist to get that’s worth building.

[wraith sentinel]

Her healing isn't half-bad either.

[faint lotus]

Honestly the only therapist that’s worth building

[sturdy drift]

Oh wait, I understand it now. So people said to bring purestream not for the elemental damage but for the negative effect the elemental damage does?

[obtuse obsidian]

still niche build past e1 1 for average player

mostly IS op

[vital kelp]

u use purestream for her healing

[formal shadow]

Who cares about that in the first place? You're bringing her for the healing

[vital kelp]

hi record

[ancient current]

purestream isn't a wandering medic
she deals with status effects, not elemental damage. that's what therapists do

[sturdy drift]

Is her healing still good at e1? Not even e2?

[wraith sentinel]

Municipal waterway cleaner.

[formal shadow]

Yeah it's pretty good at e1. She's good 0 hope pick in is5/is6

[obtuse obsidian]

its good for a 4*

probably wont replace a high rarity medic if you raised one like ptilo or silence

[frosty flame]

What healers even are worth getting e2

[sturdy drift]

My ptilio is very good but she does aoe and is not targeted

[vital kelp]

tbf we dont know who u have, u said u have ash and exu and returnee but never posted ur krooster

[obtuse obsidian]

the ones that beat the shit out of the enemies

[past charm]

Ah I see, is there anyway to speed it up or do I just have to watch the timer? Just figuring out my anni placements and timing

[gloomy sundial]

The majority of "healing" ops can and should be left at e1 if you have anyone better to work on

[frosty flame]

Ah so monster

[formal shadow]

Time to raise Vendela :clueless:

[scenic wharf]

throw ice cream at the problem

[wraith sentinel]

There isn't.

[young glacier]

I once used purestream for status resistance... Because i decided it would be extremely funny to defeat JessAlter event boss without debuffing it with vents

[obtuse obsidian]

i said beat the shit not tickle them

yes i have her raised they keep making cute 5* medics shit out side of amiya and rosesalt

[wraith sentinel]

I used Purestream's and Whisperain's Status Resistance for Talulah.

[sturdy drift]

My bad, I have been calling them healers. They're medics in the wiki.gg
And I do have Kal'tsit which is probably the exception to the e1 rule

[wraith sentinel]

(Not as a healer though, but more of an enmity guard.)

[gloomy sundial]

Yes although she's also another example of 6 stars not conforming to their archetype, you use her for damage mostly

[young glacier]

Heavyrain S2 to refuse interacting with Exu2 event boss 3x3 field

[sturdy drift]

Wait do people call them healers or medics? What should I be using?

[lyric lagoon]

majority of 6* medics are exceptions to the e1 rule by nature of an additional skill, excluding shining cause she sucks ass and lumen cause he performs at a 4* level

[wraith sentinel]

Her E2 art is pretty good.

[vital kelp]

show us who u have and we can tell u

[scenic wharf]

either. just don't call haruka a medic

[vital kelp]

the more i look the more it looks lowkey like a bait to me

[lyric lagoon]

there exists more healers than just inside the “medic” class, just use whichever one is more appropriate

[wraith sentinel]

Like Kal'tsit technically is a Medic but she's a terrible healer (other than in IS where she becomes more manageable).

[lyric lagoon]

aka are we looking at the role or are we looking at a specific individual class

[scenic wharf]

the best healers not being medics is still pretty funny

[mild yacht]

The best arts dps also doing some healing on the side.

[wraith sentinel]

SilverAsh best (Kjerag) healer.

[vital kelp]

who is this

[twilit swallow]

Is tequila worth building for base

[frosty flame]

Tequila p good in general

[proven kelp]

Do you have Shamare?

[frosty flame]

I wish I needed more guards

[vital kelp]

guys i found a tierlist online can i post it here to ask about it

[obtuse obsidian]

you already know the answer

[lyric lagoon]

take that to #arknights

[young glacier]

I should have saved that one ai generated article saying that supporter class helps in arknights pvp

[vital kelp]

light is watching in #arknights

[turbid ocean]

[ancient current]

[twilit swallow]

What shamare do

[obtuse obsidian]

make tequilla base useable

[young glacier]

Her base skill make tequila's worth using (Makes other operators have basically 30% trade post)

[obtuse obsidian]

was not it 45%

[vital kelp]

serious tho guys are we underlooking zima2's potential? i kinda feel like shes close to like mlynar tier

[young glacier]

I don't recall if it is 45% for 2 others or 30% for 3

[vital kelp]

its 70-90k dmg on s3 which is pretty bumming good for a perma bind skill with big range and really short cycle

[mild yacht]

I don’t think she counted herself.

[obtuse obsidian]

whats zima s3 total damage

[scenic wharf]

doesn't count herself

[proven kelp]

Without Shamare, Tequila isn't worth it

[lament loom]

Base skill (oh im late)

[vital kelp]

lowkey think she might be a better pull than kalter banner

or yato rerun

[woven mica]

Quercus or whisperain in terms of aspd of healing

[vital kelp]

input anyone? what do u all think

[obtuse obsidian]

i might agree for a total newbie tbh

but then we need to wait and see if mh2 and after events are strong or not

[young glacier]

Catapult powercreeping Wisadel would be funniest shit ever

[frosty flame]

There are so little offensive fast redeploys tho, yato seems indispensable

Atleast available offensive fast redeploys

[obtuse obsidian]

wang is an offensive fast redeploy

[wraith sentinel]

I'm just hoping they rerun her summer outfit again.

[proven kelp]

She's good, yes
Not to the point of calling her better pull than Kalter

Kal2 is still a strong Utility and can basically recast any ops skill
While Closure has strong DPS on her own

[frosty flame]

Him and trag dont count

[obtuse obsidian]

sorry i already count trag as texas powercreep i have to be consistence

[young glacier]

How strong is DP tax on using wang?

[faint lotus]

@abstract mauve here's a better image for him targeting the spiders

[vital kelp]

ig kalter is some true dmg before e2 for newbie

although closure usage is rather questionable for me

[obtuse obsidian]

2 dp per mine

pretty sure the extra ones are free

[frosty flame]

I ngl want skadi just to use with fast redeploy module and silveralt s2

[vital kelp]

closer to blue box

tacticians dont prioritize enemy their summon is blocking

[faint lotus]

His mod makes him prioritise enemies blocked by summon

[vital kelp]

oh, does it

[wraith sentinel]

+1 Aggression level.

[young glacier]

The hell it is basically free

[faint lotus]

Hence why I’m so confused that he’s not targeting the enemy on the summon

[obtuse obsidian]

homeless guy dont ask for much

[wraith sentinel]

And the only enemies with Aggression manipulation are the Redmarks that lower their level, yeah it's really weird.

[faint lotus]

Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve found an undocumented bug

He’s kind of weird with the sandstorm so that might have something to do with it, the wreckages only take damage if they were on the field when the sandstorm started, if they spawn later, they don’t even count as being in the sandstorm

[vital kelp]

is yato2 realistically worth pulling in the current grand scheme of things

i suppose we need to wait to see the new operator but theres plenty of good stuff coming up

[young glacier]

Well collabs are "just" 120

[vital kelp]

is it really advisable? how valuable will she be without the FOMO element

[frosty flame]

Me like helidrop and fastredeploy, I will get

[obtuse obsidian]

very high chance the answer will be no

but it all depends on mh2 and future banners

[frosty flame]

M3 spectre s2 for sash2

[dense walrus]

who deserves da module?

[vital kelp]

pram mod1 lemuen mod2

[raven ermine]

surtr mod2 also
Pram can go to mod2

[vital kelp]

i really wanna make it into the pins in help so i should totally do a future banner pull guide

so is it adviced to skip zima2

[raven ermine]

Yes
Pretty sure there's already one in roadless tho

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, not a bad banner but there’s just too much coming after

[subtle dawn]

Does wang banner come in July?

[vital kelp]

probably later still

[dense walrus]

15 to 17th july so I've read

[vital kelp]

rule 5

[dense walrus]

which module for surtur there are two apparently

[lyric lagoon]

x

[raven ermine]

Modx
mody isn't released yet, and it's worse than modx

[dense walrus]

does x lvl 2 make her a better boss killer?

[past charm]

Any suggestions for top op?

[raven ermine]

It's mostly for her total damage so yes
Allow her to handle high res a bit better too

[vital kelp]

debuff for ifrit specialist for weedy

take ur poison

[raven ermine]

Ifrit is guaranteed so go ifrit
Weedy is overall more useful tho, but it's a 1/3

[past charm]

I’ve got Ifrit, I’ll shoot for weedy 🗣️🗣️ Ty!

[dense walrus]

wish i could get fast redeploy AND top operator

[raven ermine]

Why do you even want phantom

[dense walrus]

Why not

[raven ermine]

There are better options, it's just opportunity cost
It's not like you're handed a phantom for free

[obtuse obsidian]

you can use him to get trust for tragodia rerun

phantom 1 - 0 ifrit

[dense walrus]

what's a better option

[floral geode]

asking for opinions, should I get a kal pot, gamble for blemishine hoshi saria, or just full gamble

[severe crypt]

I’d personally just kal pot

[obtuse obsidian]

full gamble or kal pot is fine either way

[young glacier]

I personally enjoyer of gambling for new operators in game where pots value is minimal

[plain hemlock]

I'd gamble, pots are wtv

[raven ermine]

Depend on your tags really
If you take the entire pool, ifrit, sash, ng, mosti, ceobe, weedy, suzu, surtr, kal, chetto
I'd even argue some base options are better than phantom

[floral geode]

oh true the pot I can get for kal is the -1 dp, so its mostly if I should go full gamble or gamble less with defense

[obtuse obsidian]

the pot value is 10 gold cert tbh

[raven ermine]

Just take the kaltsit, defense pool is garbage

[floral geode]

oh that is true

[frosty flame]

Isnt that only if you alr have max pot

[raven ermine]

You still get certs for a dupe
You get more if you have p6 because of the token exchange

[plain hemlock]

Saria is useful and hoshi is still a nice def brick, there are worse pools tbf

[floral geode]

yeah looking at the remaining top recruit the ones Im missing that are good is saria, hoshi, suzu so I guess its actually bad, gonna go kal pot now ig

[raven ermine]

You almost never need def bricks, and i'll have to disagree on saria being useful, outside of the twelve centuries gaps between her s3 having actual usage

[severe crypt]

Rarely do you get pivotal ops in recruitment anyway unless hella newbie

[scenic wharf]

is it? wasn't mody 30aspd for 9s on passive proc and 10% fragile?

[subtle hawk]

Anyone I should invest on?

don't mention the lvl one 6 star, I now they're a must

[severe crypt]

Ig maybe weedy and ceobe, but they’re more used high end, the other end of the spectrum

[plain hemlock]

You almost never need anything in the recruitment pool, most of the good picks are very niche anyway

[vital kelp]

all ur level 1 6 stars are kinda bad

[subtle hawk]

that hurt

[severe crypt]

Until we get some of the standard banner powerhouses in there, recruitment will be ehh at best

[vital kelp]

i speak the truth

[subtle hawk]

that why it hurts

therefore, whom should I upgrade

I just born 2 days ago, idk things

[vital kelp]

questionable how u got kirito if u born 2 days ago

[severe crypt]

I hope that “2 days ago” was a hyperbole

[raven ermine]

It's 10 fragile only if you're blocking and it will only apply to a single target
The aspd is nice, but you get more damage with easy to fill conditions on modx
Surtr modx2 is around a 20ish% increase in damage against 50res targets, mody average is lower, with a burst of 9s when talent proc

[scenic wharf]

starter account buyer? bro is speedrunning a ban

[subtle hawk]

I just returned to the game

[raven ermine]

Classic homegrown

[scenic wharf]

also where is your mlynar

[left tulip]

Is it a psycho move to buy the royal tokens in pink cert shop btw

[scenic wharf]

you're the same person who had mlynar and thorns and asking how to beat jt8-3

[vital kelp]

yes

[subtle hawk]

just got the 2nd account back

[scenic wharf]

maybe

[vital kelp]

its like 4000 sanity worth of red certs

[wraith sentinel]

Not really. The rotation cycle is really long anyhow.

[subtle hawk]

need to upgrade things

[scenic wharf]

depends when you're doing it

[obtuse obsidian]

max pot is 25 gold cert for a 6*

[raven ermine]

It's very expensive
Not schizo by any means, you just do it when you're done with everything else and can sink sanity in red certs during dead weeks

[subtle hawk]

I'm doing quite well and just push my way through ch.7

[scenic wharf]

royal tokens in cert shop is worth and they take a long ass time to cycle

[severe crypt]

Yeah basically assuming you’re not building anything and story fully cleared

[vital kelp]

why do u want pot when u can spend 4000 for 800 rocks which is like 6 pulls already

[scenic wharf]

so just do it outside of rock or event

[frosty flame]

What

[vital kelp]

royal token doesnt do anything except like -1 dp

[subtle hawk]

lacking lmd though, but enough mats to E2 one operator

[frosty flame]

Some max pots are like, -10sec redeploy

[severe crypt]

I was talking about the red certs guy 🥹

[subtle hawk]

good heavens

[scenic wharf]

people still hard orundum farm?

[raven ermine]

Depend on the operator and the "breakpoint" you're using tokens for
-1 dp pretty impactful for frds and vgs too

[obtuse obsidian]

you still get lmd/exp while farming red cert

farming pulls make you lose lmd/exp 👏

[wraith sentinel]

Specialist Tokens are also nice because a second set is easily accessible (from IS2).

[raven ermine]

Just do both 🥱

[left tulip]

Anni gave me enough certs to where I can afford it, I think I’ll buy at least the specialist one, by the time the rotation of next tokens expire hopefully I will have most content cleared

[severe crypt]

Wang also has a notable pot breakpoint iirc

[scenic wharf]

-1 dp is the difference between 1 more risk clear

[vital kelp]

and its not the first one

[wraith sentinel]

I used the Guard Tokens for Leizi, +1s more Frighten is nice.

[vital kelp]

most breakpoint pots arent pot2

[raven ermine]

You don't have to use your royal sets for the first dupe
You just keep them and spend them when it's relevant to

[severe crypt]

Yeah I haven’t used my red certs pots yet

[vital kelp]

ig that is true

but is it even worth obtaining them in the first place with that much sanity

[wraith sentinel]

Might as well, not like it is a monthly purchase.

[vital kelp]

its a whole ass 15 days doing nothing but ap-5

[abstract blade]

ok how in the fuck am I supposed to do s9-2

[wraith sentinel]

In over a year.

[severe crypt]

Sometimes we get a whole ass 15 days

[raven ermine]

I would think so yes
Assuming you're not needing the sanity for chips/books etc
You never know what pot will be impactful in upcoming releases, and you can always pull a dupe/hit TO tag

[abstract blade]

I have to choose between no medics or no melee

[vital kelp]

(whats s9-2?)

[raven ermine]

Having the caster token to make ceobe go from p4 to p5 is not the same than using it for -1dp logos

[ancient current]

@abstract mauve which skill does skybox generally use?

[wraith sentinel]

I think you can use the pillar to reroute all the hovering enemies to the left?

[vital kelp]

cant u just use ranged operators

[abstract blade]

and get killed by the heavy defenders cuz theres nobody to block them?

[severe crypt]

We’ve got plenty of ranged powerhouses

[abstract blade]

is that another way of saying "borrow units"?

[vital kelp]

use any slower and just some good physcial damage dealers

[raven ermine]

What's wrong with borrowing

[frozen crypt]

https://www.krooster.com/u/sharp-mint-ant-15gf

Can anyone recommend a team?

[abstract blade]

it feels like this level is a puzzle and theres another solution im not seeing

[vital kelp]

u can also use melee healers

[raven ermine]

Well isn't borrowing the same thing than asking in a help chat ?

[wraith sentinel]

I used a bunch of Lord Guards for it I think. Was thinking of a different stage.

[abstract blade]

is spot enough or do I have to build gummy?

[vital kelp]

depends on ur ground dps and how much dmg they take

[severe crypt]

I do not remember how I cleared this stage lemme see if I have an auto for it

[scenic wharf]

if you have someone that can stun, the hoverers will land

[glossy schooner]

Not really since borrowing would just involve grabbing Insert broken 6 star here and not even thinking about the problem anymore

[scenic wharf]

well so is asking for help

ur not thinking if someone else gives u the answer are you

[raven ermine]

Getting an answer on how to clear the stage is not making you think about the solutions
I get the whole "i want to do it with my own means"
Just a bit counterintuitive there

[abstract blade]

ok spot just fucking died

[severe crypt]

I do have an auto for it, tho I believe the route taken was clear 🥹

[vital kelp]

so ur ground dps is not good enough

[glossy schooner]

Ok, yeah, that makes sense

[raven ermine]

Look at a low end guide, see what they're doing, and why

[vital kelp]

im gonan watch my auto

[abstract mauve]

s2 the vast majority of the time. s1 still kinda decent

[vital kelp]

@abstract blade u can use a healer

[ancient current]

does s1 have good IS synergy
also wb cairn? s2 yeah? is cairn s1 an angle for is6 ed1 :glueless:

[glossy schooner]

Good to know, was planning on building him myself, he looks really fun to use!

[severe crypt]

I babysat healed my Fia and laneheld with penance

[radiant wyvern]

Silverash2 n pram2 + asca lappland and you can probably use 3* to sub the rest for now

[vital kelp]

wao i was smart at the time

[glossy schooner]

And I love his design!

[severe crypt]

So yeah there’s plenty of solutions

wtf we both used Fia

[ancient current]

remember to use #strategy for map specific advice

[vital kelp]

yeah just use someone who can hit far- FUCK MY SANITY

i forgor to exit the stage 😭

[raven ermine]

Do not the sanit

[radiant wyvern]

Lumen

[vital kelp]

u can replace lumen with any e1 healer and they can reach

i did the stage like years ago, its really outdated roster

[severe crypt]

Id assume whoever could’ve babysat Fia

[vital kelp]

fia isnt in lumen range, shes being healed by ptilo

[scenic wharf]

seems I bruteforced spawncamp

[abstract mauve]

i dont remember exactly if it worked with spinach but i believe it did. dont quote me on that tho. cairn should be s2 ye

[vital kelp]

but yes spawncamp is the way to go, u get a healer there and a long ranged attacker @abstract blade

[shadow bay]

2021 team ahhh

[ancient current]

ty bestie

also isn't skybox kinda good in base too

[sullen shale]

Does wis bullets increases in stronghold alliance if you gave her damasti isomorph and that specific item for laterno?

[raven ermine]

Ew, no

[undone portal]

20% pp worker, so .. decent?

[abstract mauve]

ill have a more experience skybox once he releases but he seemed quite good from the time testing him on CN and i have used him a decent amount soo ye

[vital kelp]

when is icebreaker 3 guys

[ancient current]

he just seems like he ditches a bunch of damage

[abstract blade]

whos the guy getting healed? I cant see

[proven kelp]

All I heard about him is that he's Tequila but Lizard

[ancient current]

[abstract mauve]

he does deal a good amount of damage yeee. very controllable is the best part

[undone portal]

hes pretty comfortably a tequila sidegrade. pretty high praise for a 5star

[vital kelp]

its og hoshi

[scenic wharf]

well guess when ch9 released huh

[faint lotus]

Good 5*s are about to become a realised reality

[glossy schooner]

Yay!

[abstract blade]

let me try my own strat of "everybody gather around spot" firdt

[vital kelp]

shes just brick there just use another defender

[left tulip]

Hows ju btw

[frosty flame]

Wonder why they havent just baseline buffed the rarity in a way

[raven ermine]

Because, why ?

[proven kelp]

Because nobody cares about them

[abstract mauve]

welfares 5* have been eating pretty good as of recently yeee

botani and varkaris also feel quite great to use
ju quite nice too

[frosty flame]

Because it seems like most are just resource sinks

[ancient current]

would you recommend cairn e1 for a newbie?

[abstract mauve]

idk how her breakpoints workout at e1

[ancient current]

idk either. accessible necrosis just seems solid for a newbie. necrosis is just really good

[abstract mauve]

i would recommend skybox and varkaris tho. botani depends on her breakpoints

[raven ermine]

Isn't that the case for all rarities tho ?
Why would you raise an operator that is subpar in performance ? you're not forced to

[undone portal]

she needs multiple s2 activations to reliably proc nervous before e2, but honestly the quick cycle barrier is so good i would recommend

[abstract mauve]

nervous impairment

[frosty flame]

Because people get attached

[ancient current]

ack yeah nervous

[severe crypt]

Wdym attached

[vital kelp]

if u love them just raise them regardless

[undone portal]

emotionally

[ancient current]

how many accs for 1 proc?

[frosty flame]

People want their favs to be relevant forever, not realistic ofc but there is a motivation ti keep them up to par

[abstract mauve]

ori do you got a CN account?

[undone portal]

assuming e1lv55ish, she'll proc nervous sometime during 2nd activation. a few seconds sooner if shes blocking

[raven ermine]

If you like an operator design, you don't need them to perform
All "likeable" ops should not all be "relevant" ops

[ancient current]

actually not that bad

[undone portal]

nah, i just fuck around in is on a friends account once in a while

[vital kelp]

i bring nyamu to every stage, i think ya all just haters

[ancient current]

does her pot or mod2/3 have any breakpoints?

[proven kelp]

Any ops are relevant if you're good enough
See that one guy who does IS6 with Ave guy

[ancient current]

i know mod1 is pretty good for her but idk about 2/3

[left tulip]

Can I use cairn to help mantra S3

[frosty flame]

ive just been curious, moreso abt the legal side of why certain gachas take different measures to spread balance between units ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vital kelp]

... wym the legal side

its their game they can do whatever they like

[faint lotus]

She applies injury off skill so every little boost should make her better

[left tulip]

Ave guy?

[vital kelp]

they can powercreep wisadel at any moment and no one would be able to give them legal fault

[frosty flame]

Chinesse gachas specifically seem alergic to straight stat buffs so I just assume its a legal thing

[raven ermine]

There's nothing illegal in nerfing/buffing ops
Just a tacit agreement to not piss off their community

[undone portal]

if cairn mod has any breakpoints itll be the same sort of breakpoint yu/virt have to proc like, 1sec sooner

[vital kelp]

well yes, people will complain if they buff

omg u buffed them i didnt pull and missed out

omg i pulled this guy now u debuff him? i want my money back

[frosty flame]

I see

[undone portal]

surprised people didnt riot at the introduction of modules frankly

[ornate geyser]

Best newbie team just to complete story? I just started and I want to focus on the story first and work on the other things later like endgame content and stuff

[vital kelp]

would u pull a good operator when u know they could be debuffed any second?

[raven ermine]

Modules is honestly buffing done right

[vital kelp]

they did dusk alpha module dirty 😭

[frosty flame]

Probably? Since ik there is a minimum level that every char I pull will perform at

[undone portal]

mods are fun because it gives the devs room to buff the same op multiple times in different ways to appeal to different playstyles, and none of them have been so impactful as to change an operators place in the meta. idk unless your name is lyudmila

[proven kelp]

There's this CN Player who does IS6 D18 ED235 with the Ave Mujica Band

[white kraken]

Worth getting a copy of rerun yato? I don't think Ive thought about Texas since before Trag

[vital kelp]

i wanna say its arguable

thoughts on blaze s3m3?

[odd sky]

blaze alter?

[scenic wharf]

burnslop

[vital kelp]

yeah, no yu

[raven ermine]

So, to sum up the words of an once wise sage from #help

It's basically degen s3 but ranged

[wraith sentinel]

(Kind of disappointing damage compared to how impactful the aesthetics are. Still fun though.)

[undone portal]

yatoalts probably still worth chasing for if youre an is nerd

[abstract blade]

ok I tried s9-2 again. things were going well until the fucking statues showed up

[scenic wharf]

its disappointing is probably the correct term

without yu the damage is literally heaven and earth

[undone portal]

not what you hope for from a caster from the big 25

[raven ermine]

But on the other hand, with burn slop, you don't even want her to use her ammo, so

[undone portal]

yea, you would usually prefer her s3 stay up as long as possible to feed more atk into her talent

necrosis/burn really need a way to shorten their effect durations like nervous/corrosion do

[wraith sentinel]

Maybe her second Module.

[obtuse obsidian]

necro/burn debuffs are not perma so they were not designed to be shortened like nerv and corro

[abstract blade]

are the robots good in combat?

[undone portal]

very niche applications, they usually just suck

[abstract blade]

what applications?

[undone portal]

justiceknight/phonor0 are goated for sss

you can use confess47 to mark for lemuen

[abstract mauve]

assuming i wanted to lvl 90 leizi2 lemuen sakiko pallas mlynar bagpipe and pram2, who would benefit the most in order?

[wraith sentinel]

They don't take up Deployment slots which can be handy in some scenarios, but generally too weak to be useful.

[undone portal]

lemuen > leizialt/mlynar/sakiko > pramalt > pallas > bagpipe

[wraith sentinel]

*insert Leizi propaganda*

[abstract mauve]

confess47 is a free sleep applicator and gallus2 can proc res shred

[undone portal]

oh right, gallus gallus

[abstract mauve]

phonor is also a unit that's good for niche gameplay and lancet is a free healer ig

[raven ermine]

Would put leizi and mlynar above lemu, why lemu first ?

[obtuse obsidian]

robots are also useful for high end IS3 but thats nerds territory

[wraith sentinel]

To trigger Evolution?

[undone portal]

lemu cares a lot more about hitting dph breakpoints than mlynar/leizi i feel

[obtuse obsidian]

ya and more useful then reserves past f1

[abstract mauve]

[raven ermine]

Makes sense, it's between those 3 for sure

[vital kelp]

its more about the scale of how they benefit from base attack

sakiko has high attack scale on s3 so benefit
liberator has high bonus from talent so benefit

i think its mlynar > leizi > sakiko > lemuen

ark-dps.com

we cant read ur memory

whats wrong with ark-dps.com it has all the skill with toggleable conditions

[bronze swallow]

which operators are immune to stun?

I only know blaze

[vital kelp]

lessing

[abstract mauve]

blaze isnt immune no?

[vital kelp]

lessing is the only one with real immunity iirc?

[wraith sentinel]

Only has Status Resistance I think.

[abstract mauve]

yeah only resist

[obtuse obsidian]

not exactly immunity but pepe s1 will keep curing her

[bronze swallow]

perfect

[wraith sentinel]

Lee has removal too.

[bronze swallow]

all I need is someone who can resist blood knight's stun

[wraith sentinel]

Though it costs more DP.

[undone portal]

yea if you want full consistent immunity, lee or pepe s1 are your best bet

[abstract mauve]

cant you just like kill blood knight

[obtuse obsidian]

sandwich also work

[main halo]

Hello, in kinda lost on what to do next? Any suggestions

[bronze swallow]

I'm trying to play with as little 6stars as possible

[obtuse obsidian]

check /baseskills in bot spam and do that

[bronze swallow]

huh, did not think of that

[wraith sentinel]

Therapists can also halve the Stun duration.

[obtuse obsidian]

thats the original way 99% of players dealt with blood

[pale tapir]

ulpipi e2 logos delta mod3 ops for base lemon mod2

[main halo]

Thank you

[vital kelp]

how do i do this stage guys

[obtuse obsidian]

you start a new run

[vital kelp]

[severe crypt]

You pray

[sudden tangle]

Which should I do, Coura s2 or gummy s1 mastery 3? I have a 4* Specialization level 3 training pack I forgot to use on myrtle s1 (which I did manually, oops)

[shadow bay]

use a camo thought

[severe crypt]

Do you actively use those 4 stars

[vital kelp]

ok W one shot mizuki

[obtuse obsidian]

that W is actually wisadel

[sudden tangle]

I actively use cuora & bubble. gummy as 3rd defender when needed

[severe crypt]

Ehh personally I’d save it cuz those 4 stars will be replaced by many 6 stars later on, and they function fine at sl7

[sudden tangle]

save it for what though?

[shadow bay]

he is using the 4 star insta m3

[severe crypt]

Yeah ik, I’m saying like Ethan or someone with notable skills

[shadow bay]

but then again.... u can use it whoever...

ig just see who will find harder to farm m3 mats with

[raven ermine]

Save it for ethan, indigo, purestream instead
or other units you'll use later on in IS

[sudden tangle]

Sure, so other than myrtle s1, which 4* benefits most from m3?

[severe crypt]

What Mayu said

[shadow bay]

masteries for 4 stars cheap anyway... would be rly not keen too much to use it unless u rly want to use it optimally

[sudden tangle]

anyone of these in particular (im level 55)?

[shadow bay]

ethan coz he want that m3 in his skill for his job

[severe crypt]

I’m on the fence of recommending an Ethan build early on

[raven ermine]

They're all niche options for IS
Well purestream is good outside of IS, but investing in healers tend to be overkill for gen content
Ethan > indigo > pure, i wouldn't bother for now with either of those

[vital kelp]

generally e2 4 star is not needed cuz these are just value unit, u wont be using them much later on except very few or IS

[obtuse obsidian]

pure stream out side of IS seems like niche knight player tbh

newbies tend to have strong medics nowadays

[severe crypt]

Basically, no reason to dump too many resources into 4 stars cu they’ll get replaced by 6 stars anyway
At least early on

[hidden nacelle]

but pinecone qt

[vital kelp]

how many rat oprator do we have

[obtuse obsidian]

tomimi dev have no race filter?

[vital kelp]

i dont see it

faction but no race

[wraith sentinel]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Zalak
Wiki has a list.

Sorta.

[vital kelp]

wisadel doesnt scale very good with buffs does she

[silver smelt]

she does, why wouldnt she

[undone portal]

s2 scales great

[obtuse obsidian]

is this relic buffs or op buffs?

either way s2 scale good with them

[vital kelp]

s3 has good +atk and doesnt do well with aspd

[silver smelt]

wisadel isnt just s3

[swift imp]

tryna figure out which 2 healers to raise...

[proven kelp]

Do you not have Silence and Ptilopsis?

[swift imp]

used my selectors for smth else

[sharp onyx]

Does anyone know if they will sell 6 star selector during wang banner

[severe crypt]

I don’t think they will, the paid 6 star selectors come during our “celebration” banners, like exualt, sashalt etc

[proven kelp]

My condolences

Just raise Warfarin and Perfumer

[swift imp]

from what i remember i used all my selectors on liskarm, mountain, and lappland

cuz i thought i already had decent medics

[severe crypt]

Oof, yeah do what fae said

[swift imp]

is it rly that big of a mistake to make...?

[severe crypt]

Well your account isn’t bricked per se, but you had the chance for objectively better units
Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things

[obtuse obsidian]

generally silence/ptilo are better and will make healing issue less common but its not that bad

we had god know how many years of starting account with no good medics

[rocky pilot]

Can just go with warfarin and perfumer, just no e2 you will have enough healing

[swift imp]

i didnt rly see healing as an issue in my gameplay so i thought it was a lower priority over getting actually decent melee dps

[rocky pilot]

Don’t bother with lumen
I have him m3 mod1 and just, not worth it

[scenic wharf]

use s2

[obtuse obsidian]

tbf the ticket that had ptilo and silnce had no good melee ops

neither is recommended to get from the big ticket

[swift imp]

theyre definitely a hell of a lot better than what i was using xD

[obtuse obsidian]

liskarm is pretty meh as defender
you could use low rarity defender for same result

lapp and mountain are not from the tickets that had silence/ptilo as recommend

[swift imp]

im p sure silence is from the same selector as liskarm

[pale tapir]

sussy or warfie should be fine yea
and lena for multitarget

[obtuse obsidian]

i said lapp and mountain are not

and said liskarm sucks

theres like 4 tickets so make sure you actually used all 4

[swift imp]

who daheck is lena

[swift imp]

wut where do i get the 4th?

[pale tapir]

perfumer

[obtuse obsidian]

day 1 mail have the silence liskarm one and all ops one and i assumed you picked lapp from that

day 7 have another 5 star where people get ptilo from

[sleek finch]

we should normalize using ops in-game names

[swift imp]

and the day 5 selector where i got mountain

so wheres the 4th?

cuz i only got 1 selector from the day 1 mail

[wraith shoal]

some like arturia and theresa are pretty recognisable

[pale tapir]

skill issue

[sleek finch]

except its not theresa

[swift imp]

oop nvm i already used all 4

[obtuse obsidian]

arturia and theresa are only recognisable because only 3 people talk about them 👏

[wraith shoal]

nobody gives a shit her name is civilight eterna

[sleek finch]

no, its more like if you are being nerdy about it
civilight eterna is not theresa

[pale tapir]

ship of theresis
if it looks like theresa acts like theresa and has theresa's memories is it still theresa

[swift imp]

what the hell did i use one of the selectors for...

[wraith shoal]

well...yeah but it's not like people dont understand who we're talking about

[rapid mason]

What about Mr. des | mon3tr and virtuosa’s sock

[sleek finch]

then how do newbie know someone like tea apple sauce or tina to look up their info

[wraith shoal]

i'm not talking about saying the names to newbies. I'm talking general

[scenic wharf]

[sleek finch]

this is not general

[pale tapir]

yes this is #help

[quick jolt]

what? it is?

[slim tusk]

no it's wendy

[wraith shoal]

well i might need #helping, and I know who arturia is so no problem using that name sometimes for example

[ancient lintel]

Morning

[obtuse obsidian]

no way tea apple sauce

[scenic wharf]

that is a real nickname for ptilopsis yes

[sleek finch]

we dont talk about the 2020 era

[obtuse obsidian]

am ancient i remember that

[ancient lintel]

Owl under the table

[scenic wharf]

well what if someone calls her gallio and you play league too

[formal shadow]

[wraith shoal]

thankfully I wanna retain my irl sanity so I'm not touching that

[lament loom]

That's crazy

[modest charm]

does anyone know how to trim ts, ive cleared with abyssal, yan, sargon, laterano all with different strats and on dire or higher difficulty but I havent progressed 2/3

[pale tapir]

simulation is the fella you pick at the start
like du yaoye or ermengarde

[scenic wharf]

use 3 different starting strats clearing it three times each

its the person u pick at the start, amiya, orchid, etc

[modest charm]

ya like clementia, justin jr, duo yaoye etc

[formal shadow]

Talking about ops with their actual name gets confusing at times. I keep forgetting reed's name. And who is going to know who I'm talking about if I'm talking about Shana? :clueless:

[modest charm]

ive used unique ones each clear, im sure im not tweaking :c

[scenic wharf]

cement lol

[lament loom]

Instead of Exusiai The New Covenant, just simplify it to "Exu2"

[formal shadow]

Someone knows

[obtuse obsidian]

show us your ops sorted by rarity

[pale tapir]

you don't know loughshinny? loughshameonyou

[formal shadow]

Just call her Lemuel

[scenic wharf]

there should be a counter on each strategy you've cleared on, just get 3 to 3

[obtuse obsidian]

or use krooster site

[frosty flame]

Is skill summary farming worth it or is there an alternative source to the reg missions for it

[wraith sentinel]

IS reward tracks have them too.

[obtuse obsidian]

CA is perfectly fine

always farm 5th one tho

[modest charm]

oh my god I think I just cannot understand basic wnglish

[frosty flame]

I kinda need the 3s

[wraith sentinel]

Still, it isn't that bad of an idea to farm them, efficient enough.

[modest charm]

arknights player reading comprehension deficit ty bro

[rapid mason]

you need to clear 3 times with each of 3 starting strategies, you can check how much you cleared with that strategy clicking on it when the game starts. When you clear 3 times with that strategy it will have an orage tag on it with a star

[frosty flame]

Good, ig that will be where my excess sanity goes for a good while

[pale tapir]

eh you can 6x sweep it twice and probably have enough for a while
since u can craft from lower tier

[wraith sentinel]

If you're doing Masteries it won't be enough.

[frosty flame]

I been getting the relevant masteries for my squad so also is crafting them up even worth it

[pale tapir]

if you need the blue ones then why not

[lament loom]

Simply clear / complete any Simulation 3 times for one Strategist (the person you pick at the start, not strategy lol), then do that for different Strategist, and another different Strategist and voila, you are done.

[frank girder]

which 6 stars ops should i get?

[vital kelp]

surtr silverash

[frank girder]

ty

[modest charm]

how abt headstart on bagpipe p5

[timber finch]

any way to identify spies faster in ep 12 or just make sure they're in constant view?

[odd sky]

what are your 6*

[rocky pilot]

Does someone need free burying

[frosty flame]

[modest charm]

bro thinks hes hutao

[rocky pilot]

You checked my mutual servers didn’t you

[vital kelp]

bait used to be funny

[wraith sentinel]

Only that.

[modest charm]

lucky guess, i hear burying and think of hutao qiqi

[timber finch]

alr, and they can be un-disguised without being blocked or nah?

[wraith sentinel]

Should be able to.

[timber finch]

guess the map wasnt having long enough paths then

[wraith sentinel]

Though I don't think they're normally slow enough for it to happen naturally, yeah.

[fading nimbus]

Why is he unusable?

[modest charm]

no module

module man needs module

[wraith sentinel]

RA Module is decent though I believe.

[timber finch]

yeah, dont rly have anything to slow down innocents aswell yet so ig ill just kill the rest of the map to free block

[wraith sentinel]

Which stage are you on?

[fading nimbus]

So... GoldenGlow?

[timber finch]

12-3 right now, but i prefer to make sure early that i understood

[wraith sentinel]

-# (Also, random, but Lunacub isn't half bad for revealing, , and is safe the whole time

[fading nimbus]

Good luck! 😁

[timber finch]

i chose to use Greyy alter range

[pale tapir]

just tried and ascalon and suzuran don't slow unidentified so that probably won't work either

[timber finch]

think while icebreaker was on someone had mentionned mostisma but im not sure anymore

[pale tapir]

speaking of mostima who is less niche between mostima lyudmila and nasti
I wanna ticket one and put blood sweat and tears into the other two

[scenic wharf]

maybe mostima because ascalon can also slow

and I know not many people will look to slow to the minimum

[obtuse obsidian]

nasti can be used easily everywhere as a weird skalter

[severe crypt]

What’s her sp cost for the tile again

[wraith sentinel]

At least Crownslayer can be used more than once every eighty seconds.
(She's genuinely fun.).

[swift imp]

wai WUT where did u get that selector??

[obtuse obsidian]

its like 20 secs per level

[pale tapir]

first one was given around anniversary (jan 16)

[severe crypt]

So it’s kinda around the same ramp up time as skalter no?

[wraith sentinel]

Skadi's new Module helps her in that regard, sorta.

[obtuse obsidian]

you might have used the last one on nearl or shitfire :icant:

but anyway go to side story for chen alter event and get tequilla from there, will be good addation to your team

[pale tapir]

(dossoles holiday)

[obtuse obsidian]

hoederer is kinda the best 6* e2 target you have but at same time not that impactful

[vital kelp]

skyfire is good in beta edition of arknights

[pale tapir]

they tried to push skyfire agenda so hard
with the premium VA and cat ears and everything

[undone portal]

'weirdchamp skadialt who can block' feels like an accurate assessment for nasti in gen content

they wanted skyfire to be popular so bad

[obtuse obsidian]

sky fire fans should be happy anyway she is more useable then frostleaf :realmad:

[vital kelp]

at least everyone here tells u to raise frostleaf

[pliant summit]

Which summer limited is becoming 200 next?

[neat acorn]

Greetings

[swift imp]

theres no way i used it on shitfire... and dont u get nearl for free from the story?

[vital kelp]

no

[abstract mauve]

nearl not free

[undone portal]

gavialt

[vital kelp]

its been 4 years of me playing the game and i still dont have nearl its kinda funny

[swift imp]

huh i musta gotten her from a banner or smth

[rose flicker]

Module recommendation for Mudrock, Penance and Skalter

[vital kelp]

none none none

kinda mid units

[pliant summit]

I’m only missing eyjaalt
Honestly might just save to 300 this time around

Or wait another year ig

[vital kelp]

do u not get a guarentee faceoff in is5 with pedal in floor 4

[neat acorn]

Save 300

[hidden nacelle]

I didn't have Sesa till year 5 xd

[undone portal]

penance/mudrock x if you must
i cant justify modding skadialt at all

[rose flicker]

Nah I want to use Mudrock and Penance, I have not used them ever since Ulpianus started existing

[obtuse obsidian]

skadi alt you wait for the copium Is module one day

[vital kelp]

help

[undone portal]

guaranteed faceoff node? i dont think that happens unless im unaware

[rose flicker]

For Penance and Mudrock which mod? X or Y

[undone portal]

x1 for both. mudrock can justify y3 in some cases but you might want to keep deploying her near allies open as an option

[rose flicker]

On both?

[slate sigil]

make sussuro e2 or upgrade Silence and replace them?

[neat acorn]

Replace who

[rose flicker]

Oh got it

[slate sigil]

silence with sussuro

[rose flicker]

Silence has a different niche than Sussuro

[neat acorn]

Her drones are pretty useful

[rose flicker]

Yep when I was new Silence has saved my ass so many times

[slate sigil]

so, sussuro is okay to e2?

[obtuse obsidian]

no

[rose flicker]

Only do e2 if you want masteries

[slate ridge]

Does your strat die without Sussuro E2

[neat acorn]

What does sussuro do again I never used her

[pale tapir]

heal
and be cute
and fluffy

[obtuse obsidian]

heal a lot
huggable

[neat acorn]

Well I know that but what makes her different

[abstract mauve]

she's like lumen except she heals more than him by a decent bit oh and she's not afk and she's a different gender

[pale tapir]

she heals more than others

[rose mist]

For OG Chen, should one use S3 or S2?

[neat acorn]

I see so heal a lot

[quick jolt]

i THINK s2 but i could be wrong, i dont know shit about chen shes too ass for me to care

[abstract mauve]

yes

[slim tusk]

s3

[abstract mauve]

og chen ran s3 pretty sure. s2 had some helidrop stuffs but uhhhh

[obtuse obsidian]

s3 is better but s2 is insta on deploy for 70 sec redeploy kirin yato

[quick jolt]

🥹

i lowkey forgot what her s3 even does

[vital kelp]

yes

[pale tapir]

s3 is your og irene degenbrecher type skill

[slim tusk]

where chen s2 meme where she failed to one shot caster

[abstract mauve]

guardmiya s2

[undone portal]

modern ch'en1 runs s3. s2 sees helidrop use if youre a 1p relay player but i can almost guarantee you arent

[abstract mauve]

pretty sure it's like copy paste
with like small changes

[obtuse obsidian]

actually what was s2 damage again? 5k/5k?

[undone portal]

something like that

[slate ridge]

You can check if its copy paste with Titi sleeping her during skill ig
If she still slashes for the next 15s then same as Amiya

[rose mist]

Man I wish Chen had more skins. I wonder when police skin is coming back

[scenic wharf]

ch3n s2 but less cool

[abstract mauve]

very hard to be less cool than chen3 s2

[shadow bay]

idk pray game have another anime season??? coz those skins tend to rerun when anime get new seasons

[quick jolt]

the perma redeploy is so ass

[scenic wharf]

the level 1 destroyer

[undone portal]

ch'3n s2 must be so cool if youre 12

[vital kelp]

how do i fight rhine defender

[obtuse obsidian]

chen 3 on her way to use s2 once and be in another map

[abstract mauve]

she's also like the 3rd operator that slashes enemies with that type of animation

[obtuse obsidian]

4th if we include chen1

i will not accept tulip eraser

[scenic wharf]

[abstract mauve]

i would never 😇

[vital kelp]

wait what do i do here

[quick jolt]

nothing, you lost

[neat acorn]

Escape

[scenic wharf]

i legit went tulip who before I rememberedp

[abstract mauve]

😭

[quick jolt]

thats just a death cutscene if you lose when you have t3 egg before reaching ed5

[vital kelp]

i forgor i didnt have the door and key item

[scenic wharf]

bro lost

[neat acorn]

[chrome prawn]

Which one

[vital kelp]

summon

[quick jolt]

iirc itll also take prio over arch glyph if u get t3 egg after it

[neat acorn]

Gambling

[severe crypt]

Yeah I’d say kal

[vital kelp]

it does?

[abstract mauve]

:cooked:

[scenic wharf]

gambling

[quick jolt]

its funny ya it can make arch glyph useless

[scenic wharf]

u csn guarantee kal or weedy but i'd gamble

[neat acorn]

You don’t have to deal with that if you don’t play it

[abstract mauve]

bruh just guarantee kal. that's like the best thing you can get

[severe crypt]

What’s wrong with kal or weedy

[quick jolt]

kal is like the best choice in recruit and weedy is one of the best niche choices, why would u gamble here

[vital kelp]

wjhat the flip so i have to use arch glyph before i go encounter grrrrr

[abstract mauve]

kal and weedy are the only 2 operators that havent had their shit completely blown off clean

[neat acorn]

[vital kelp]

well i suppose t3 egg + rolling ancestor + emergency rhine defender when i only had 3 e2 operator is a bad idea

[quick jolt]

slightly

[abstract mauve]

me personally. personally tho. i wouldnt do that

[vital kelp]

• talon

bro i had like 20 fights and literally no good tickets 😭

[neat acorn]

[vital kelp]

i really need to fix my brain and practice is5

[wise latch]

Ive been stuck w this thing help

[vital kelp]

edit the message

[quick jolt]

nope is4 is right there get to it

[vital kelp]

i dont like the is4 bosses

[abstract mauve]

you can also try practicing astgenne2 or sanktamiksa core in is5 🙏

[quick jolt]

does it work on d18

[wise latch]

Omg it was that simple too thx

[vital kelp]

we dont have astgenne2 here

[abstract mauve]

the question isnt if it works. it's if you can survive the first few floors

[vital kelp]

sash2 comes later for us babe

[quick jolt]

will consider it a win if i get to f4

[pale tapir]

enjoy your rose salt certs

[abstract mauve]

astgenne2 core also gets you the hand and you lowkey need kings relics first but also you want astgenne2 eventually

[vital kelp]

how do i even get king relic on talon

[quick jolt]

the encounter

[shadow bay]

billiards???

[abstract mauve]

forgot it existed icl

[vital kelp]

why do i do encounter if im talons

[quick jolt]

"just get" technology

[shadow bay]

question

is6, yall chase yan buff?

[quick jolt]

bc encounter can give you all 4 kings!

[abstract mauve]

does getting an encounter remove it from the encounter pool? encountermaxing on talons sounds hilarious

[quick jolt]

i think so??

[quick jolt]

its lowkey what i did pre-dlc1

[abstract mauve]

same 😭

[quick jolt]

back when is5 was good 🔥

[vital kelp]

guys i have skill issue im stuck at d12 trying to do 245 every time 😭

[quick jolt]

have u tried not doing 245 until u get to d18 so u can practice it properly

[vital kelp]

if i cant beat 245 on d12 how can i even practice properly on d18

[quick jolt]

strats that work below d18 wont work on it!

[vital kelp]

[random kestrel]

that remind me stuck at d17 245 for a whole month until decide to just unlock d18 first instead

[quick jolt]

d18 is genuinely a whole different game compared to 15 and below

[vital kelp]

this is true

[cursive gazelle]

surtr is still worth, right?

[quick jolt]

shes fine yeah

[shadow bay]

so i am not a human if i dont have is5 in d18?

[vital kelp]

time to beat the shit out of fremont i miss him

[abstract mauve]

ye that's like the captcha to prove you arent AI

[vital kelp]

im trying so hard to become human here 😭

[obtuse obsidian]

this is a horror movie and you are the victim

[vital kelp]

amiya is no horror movie to me

in every and all worlds she loves me

[pale tapir]

based and dadpilled

[neat acorn]

True

[vital kelp]

guys who do i raise for IS5

[quick jolt]

greyy2, surfer, cantabile, ethan, indigo

[pale tapir]

rosmimi
amiyi

[vital kelp]

https://www.krooster.com/u/fatpika

[pale tapir]

just wis it

[trim thistle]

any chance for rainbow six event rerun or it is permanently gone?

[neat acorn]

Just aspd it

[quick jolt]

ya greyy2

[vital kelp]

i got grey2 raised, e2 80 s2m3 mod1

[pale tapir]

nobody knows tbh
chances are it's gone since it reran already but you never know

[pale tapir]

update your krooster

[vital kelp]

i have to do it manually and it sucks 😭

[pale tapir]

L bozo just type faster

[vital kelp]

anyone else

should i e2 gummy/purestream? whats some good counter to the W stage and rhine defender and chaos

[quick jolt]

think u got like everyone important

[quick jolt]

they're fine at e1. counters to those stages are refreshing them

[vital kelp]

no angelina sucks 😭

[quick jolt]

u dont need ange for is5

[vital kelp]

yes

i need skills

and brains

[odd sky]

how good is gnosis in is5

[quick jolt]

idt hes drafted

i havent tried him myself yet but ive never heard of anyone else using him

[vital kelp]

man i want icebreaker back is is too much brain

[coarse notch]

wrong skill masteried

[vital kelp]

do i want s1m3 then

[quick jolt]

yes also mod3

[vital kelp]

off to training room u go

so not much else to be raised?

[quick jolt]

not that i can see rn

you got like pre much everything you need

[vital kelp]

why mod3? its just 115% modifier i thought hes there for slow

[quick jolt]

he deals dmg too

[vital kelp]

mini ros now that i dont have ros? fair enuff

[quick jolt]

infact he can solo quilon left side!

[vital kelp]

how normal is it to make the exact same amount of lmd and exp and gold in base each day for 3 days

[coarse notch]

greyy is basically 5 star wisadel in is5 tbh

[quick jolt]

idk i make like 30k then 80k

[random kestrel]

elusive merc and rhine guardian huh
if not confident then refresh it yeah

[vital kelp]

this is funny cuz it always fluctuates for me due to proviso in level 3 tp

[quick jolt]

67

[vital kelp]

😭

[random kestrel]

i do merc if have camo thing, not have that then i losing lp for nothing 😂

[quick jolt]

they dont even have spikes. fuckass stages. prime reroll candidate

[random kestrel]

rhine is -4lp or no leak at all

[vital kelp]

-43 for me idik

[shadow bay]

whats rhine guardian again?

[quick jolt]

lone trail mechs

[random kestrel]

leak all those robocop
its far easier that way

[shadow bay]

oh yeh
thats also a bs stage alright

[vital kelp]

is mon3tr a high prio draft in is5?

[quick jolt]

yes shes like #1 medic draft in most comps

[scenic wharf]

yeah

[frank girder]

idk, maybe check your depot, i just found out about it today (sorry for late reply)

[pale tapir]

we already told him, it's from anniversary

[scenic wharf]

definitely the medic you want to get

[random kestrel]

or if want to follow my strat, kal on far right solely to kill robocop

[severe crypt]

And you can’t get it after march 2nd

[frank girder]

oh alright 👀

[vital kelp]

wb the stage with 2 ursus drones? is it recommended to kill in the middle or around the left?

[quick jolt]

reroll that one too. theres also many more than 2 ursus drones

[random kestrel]

hahaha

[vital kelp]

the first time i went in i didnt know it was necrosis area in the middle

i also had the age where i cant retreat shit

[random kestrel]

regular army
the weaker version of w

[quick jolt]

cant build in the middle anwyay bc of the perma massive necrosis field

[random kestrel]

emergency have ss
very powerful ss

[quick jolt]

and babel assassins

[vital kelp]

whats SS

[broken flame]

is this emer elusive mark?

[random kestrel]

idk, at that point ines should be in team so it less trouble

[quick jolt]

these dlc1 stages were designed when people were complaining that the stages were too easy pre-dlc1. i think they're intentionally supposed to be dogshit and unrewarding to play

[vital kelp]

shaterskull?

[random kestrel]

skull shatterer yeah

[broken flame]

This stage ended a lot of my runs 🥀

[vital kelp]

interesting

is it random spawning? i heard some say they got two skull shaterer

[random kestrel]

idk, never encounter 2 ss there

[broken flame]

emergency feel like you are fighting wisadel

[vital kelp]

any ways not important

should i only grab quilon ending relic on floor 4? then do the faceoff in floor 5? it impedes the exp a lot

[obtuse obsidian]

invis W in elusive marc is indeed wis

[quick jolt]

get it on f3, yeah faceoff on f5. shop rob on f4

[vital kelp]

if i shop rob on f4 doesnt that mean ill miss out on quilon shop?

[quick jolt]

correct but if you rob f6 you have a very very very high chance of not getting either chalice/toy, because you only get 2 nodes to work with after that

[random kestrel]

do it later floor will easily destroy your run (ed4 relic)

[kind abyss]

which module for skadi would be better if i wanna play abyssal hunters

[vital kelp]

oh yeah, chalice has higher chance of spawning in encounter after u get 150 ingot yes?

[quick jolt]

also on d18 you will lowkey want chalice for theresis w/ anasa karma. like you're dead if you dont

[vital kelp]

but if im trying talon does it drop more often from combat rewards too? im my runs i do semi-avoid encounter cuz its often times not as rewarding as just combat

[quick jolt]

yeah and shop rob will give you 112, as long as you dont stun cannot at all (it can cancel the chest spawning animation)

you can get the rest via either withdrawal or using 2 industry inspirers (the one that spawns 3 chests)

[random kestrel]

its guarantee if have 150 ingot yes

[quick jolt]

basically do not use wis on cannot

[abstract blade]

Are all the Record Rest ops useless other than the 4 mentioned on roadless?

[coarse notch]

talons robs f6

[vital kelp]

from encounter or just next relic drop

[quick jolt]

oh, its guaranteed from lamp lol

[random kestrel]

it will slightly different if have bunch of industry early on

[vital kelp]

right, so if i dont do lamp no guarentee chalice?

[coarse notch]

correct

[quick jolt]

on talons its not guaranteed yeah. on talons the intention is that you are just relicmaxxing anyway

[broken flame]

Pretty much, at least until new ones get added.

[vital kelp]

good to know

why ending relic on f3 not f4? no guarentee trade on f4?

[abstract blade]

What about guys like lumen? Or is silence good enough

[random kestrel]

oh talons run
its completely different then

[vital kelp]

yeah i like talon

[coarse notch]

f3 has guaranteed lnf f4 doesnt
and faceoffing f4 on lamp is too late

[broken flame]

Don't bother with Lumen. Just use any 2 of Silence/Ptilo/Sussuro/Purestream depending on who you have.

[quick jolt]

f4 is high prio floor for combats (it has the 2 stages with the highest spike count in the theme) and you need to path to shop. also getting petal earlier means you can build your ingots up again earlier

[abstract blade]

Is he that bad late game?

[coarse notch]

lamp comps are highly disciplined, you stick to your gameplan 99% of the time and you can achieve a very high winrate

[random kestrel]

if talons relic maxing as rose said

[vital kelp]

i see, so idealy i wouldnt want to skip f1 shop and want to spend all my ingot there as f2/3 i might not see a shop before quilon relic?

[quick jolt]

also if you were to for example do lnf on f4 and its After shop, petal will eat the ingots you got from rob

[coarse notch]

you burn all of your ingots in f1 shop yes

[random kestrel]

no other way than that

[sand aurora]

I have a question, does aspd effect stacks?
Like if i have 2 device, i have 12 aspd instead

[quick jolt]

i think talons can rob f6 though right

[coarse notch]

shop squad usually robs f6 yea

[broken flame]

Too expensive for mediocre returns. Like you'd want some mastery on S3 and Mod1 at the very least

[random kestrel]

yes, can rob

[quick jolt]

f4 rob is just lamp yeah i forgor

[random kestrel]

iirc nope

[broken flame]

Though if you like him, well he's useable at least.

[vital kelp]

so f1, 1 encounter + 3/4 emer + shop
f2 try as many emer as possible, get ending 2 relic and ending 5 relic
f3 get petal, build squad
f4 try to beat amiya and get redemption? as much spike as possible
f5 get quilon and amiya relic,
f6 shop rob

[quick jolt]

pretty much yeah

[coarse notch]

which squad/comp is this, shop ingots?

[vital kelp]

during which stages does quilon relic spawn more ships

[harsh rivet]

when is TiTi's banner coming to global again

[quick jolt]

ed2

[vital kelp]

only ed2? wb rolling ancestor?

[abstract blade]

do I need more snipers other than the krooses? maybe shirayuki?

[scenic wharf]

after wang

[quick jolt]

all versions of ed1/2

[coarse notch]

cuz shop ingots takes 3 combat f1

[vital kelp]

i still play blueprint

[quick jolt]

blueprint is a trap, it sucks

[broken flame]

Depends on what they plan to do. Allegedly we get Thorns2 rerun and then Titi after Nasti and then Wang. But order could be different for global except for Wang banner. That will come on time

[coarse notch]

blueprint is horrifically bad for 245

[vital kelp]

try as many node as i can

[random kestrel]

depend on your roster
no context maybe shira work for you

[coarse notch]

like, its actually unplayable bad

[quick jolt]

blueprint is the speedrunslop squad

[proven kelp]

There are good snipers
But snipers that a newbies has easy access to, no

Tho upcoming Skybox is great

[vital kelp]

how do i refresh then, with thoughts? i thought its better to do cross pathing

[coarse notch]

use plans to refresh yes

[quick jolt]

you dont wanna do a ton of refreshing on talons

[vital kelp]

whats the better squads? guard vanguard? ingot?

[abstract blade]

https://www.krooster.com/u/cool-ochre-yato-382j

[quick jolt]

do ingot for talons

[slate ridge]

stacks

[vital kelp]

interesting, ill give it a try

[coarse notch]

snp, vgg, sescort, shop are the top of the meta
fct and trees are a tier below

[slim tusk]

stainless one doesn't stack iirc

[vital kelp]

if i run talon do i still want to try to get the tree node on f1?

[slim tusk]

so only lame 6 aspd

[coarse notch]

for shop ingots you want to burn your refresh on the 1st node of the path you arent taking on f1, then refresh the shop at the end of the floor to take 3 combat + fated encounter on f1

[slate ridge]

i get +1 attack on Mudrock with 1 bot
+2 attack with 2 bots

[vital kelp]

huh... interesting

[random kestrel]

have exu huh
still not worth simply you already have e1 kroos2
so stick with both kroos for your sniper and e2 your kroos2

[abstract blade]

whats exu?

[vital kelp]

what does lnf mean

lost and found?

[random kestrel]

exusiai

[slate ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1478003907333460160/IMG_20260302_191825_051.mp4?ex=6a0e4fa7&is=6a0cfe27&hm=5527050631addff4a918990ebf4d54a3e4613a8918d380449fe463e81d87ea19&

[abstract blade]

I thought she fills a different role than shira?

[quick jolt]

talons ingots starts ros right?

[broken flame]

Skybox is pretty good for newbie (welfare from Nasti event). Actually better than Krooster

[vital kelp]

i should try another starter... not wis... whats some good starter for is5? trag exu still work? or should i borrow ros

[coarse notch]

ros, exu2, trag are the common starts

[vital kelp]

ros it is, gotta borrow from the start

[coarse notch]

for ros comp its typically ros/logos/mon3tr core, picking up tragodia along the way

[vital kelp]

i dont have any ros friends

[coarse notch]

and you're on tw so i cant share mine

[random kestrel]

their job is to kill mobs so no different
if want another one that new yea like other said, skybox

[obtuse obsidian]

is tw randoms still garbo?

[vital kelp]

yes

[obtuse obsidian]

good borrow a sl7 rosmo for extra diffeculty

[coarse notch]

honestly, imo the easiest comp to initially learn how to execute is sniper/medic rosmontis but up to you
ingots kinda depends on how willing you are to withdraw 50 ingots when you need to

[quick jolt]

i only dont do ingots often because i get too lazy to invest back to 999 later

[broken flame]

Skybox is very similar to Tequila in practice. Good dmg 2.4k dph, aoe, can block flying enemies, good skill cycle. Honestly really nice for newbie

[vital kelp]

i cant even refresh into one

[slim tusk]

bute newbie hate tequila

[vital kelp]

i have secret tech

[pale tapir]

newbie when 0 block off skill

[coarse notch]

do you have a friend named marco

[random kestrel]

ohh it stack hmm
i remember it didnt, maybe i use too slow ops that +aspd look like didnt stack

[vital kelp]

maybe i do maybe i dont

whos asking

i think i just refreshed past a rosmo

omg its a good one finally i found it

[broken flame]

But does it have the chess skin

[coarse notch]

but is it p6 m9

[random kestrel]

hahaha
yeah ingot run
the shittiest part is to keep ingot stack at 999 all the time

[vital kelp]

its e2 art pot1 but its mod3 m6

good enuff for me

[copper schooner]

anyone know if I can stall W with hoederer s2 on this tile?

[coarse notch]

do you have toy/chalice

[copper schooner]

no

[robust thistle]

Hoe is dead without any kind of aspd abuse
But if its low D then it might be possible

[copper schooner]

damn

[coarse notch]

without atkspd hoe is dead
with atkspd hoe is probably still gonna die from the mudrock zealots

[random kestrel]

that is suicide tile, hoederer will get shot-ed from right and left
(forgor exactly how far the range enemies have there)

[coarse notch]

do you have rosmontis

[limpid yarrow]

tragodia stall tbh

[coarse notch]

trag or ros solves this stage

[copper schooner]

I didnt draft her because i had no vouchers

[vital kelp]

lamp strats in is5 is significantly more developed isnt it

[coarse notch]

id say all of the meta strats are pretty developed

[robust thistle]

What does that mean

[coarse notch]

basically every team in tc7 ran a combination of vgg, shop, sescort, collections

[vital kelp]

im looking at clears on bilibili and a lot of the comments say "doesnt work for talon" can u make talon guide 😭

[coarse notch]

there is no real guide for talons, talons is emergent, you draft based on what relics and vouchers you happened to roll that run

[robust thistle]

Isnt talon just "pick your battles correctly"

[formal shadow]

Pick every battle

[random kestrel]

what that mean
i only recall lamp strat are to appeal more player
because the satisfying level it give when finish and won the entire run

[robust thistle]

Like there is no guide there, lamp has a guide because it has a specific rule on what options it gives out

[coarse notch]

pretty much, know what you're able to safely fight with a given set of relics and operators

[proven kelp]

What happened to fuck around and find out

[vital kelp]

i got tired of losing ingot every game and dying to bs stages

[coarse notch]

the gameplay of talons is pretty much just the chunk of text i sent a while ago

[robust thistle]

They just say "it doesnt work for talon" because talon doesnt spawn stages based on your comp

[quick jolt]

i think if u just wanna get a 245 clear u should start with snipermed lamp and try other comps afterwards

[formal shadow]

Lamp strat is simple. Get your hand, get your king's relic, start facerolling

[vital kelp]

its not about the 245 clear its about brain reformation during its process 😭

[coarse notch]

the non lamp comps are more volatile, you play them because even though you'll lose a lot more, you also have a higher chance of highrolling into being able to clear 2a45t3f

[robust thistle]

I mean you dont get "brain reformation" if you dont fail

[coarse notch]

you either die a pitiful death or become thanos

[vital kelp]

i found a chess skin p6 m9 rosmontis omg

[robust thistle]

Like even lamp is still inconsiatent, the guide just spells out what options it will give out based on your draft

[limpid yarrow]

you forgot to mention
that every game in tc7 they had to ban tree in finals
because tree squad was too good

🌲🌲🌲
🌲🌲🌲

[coarse notch]

that was for sure the reason

[lament loom]

What does tree squad do again? I assume it's the flower squad?

[limpid yarrow]

🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲

[robust thistle]

Isnt tree squad the infinitely multiplying tree thhing

[formal shadow]

Tree squad

[coarse notch]

you get a ton of shrivels and sprouts to combine into 2+2 relics

[limpid yarrow]

you get 6 trees at the start of the game

[quick jolt]

you are not real if you play tree squad

[formal shadow]

John Highroll squad

[coarse notch]

tree squad guide on ISC website soon™

[quick jolt]

im so sure

[random kestrel]

ohh that one squad

[limpid yarrow]

100% banrate in finals alongside known highroll squad ingots btw
its the only squad people play these days

every IS streamer is getting on the tree train even now

[vital kelp]

i should just play spearhead squad and actually brain it out fr

[quick jolt]

make a guide for it

[limpid yarrow]

closure huge buff for trees

[formal shadow]

Spearhead squad represent

[coarse notch]

die alive already made it, its just being proofread rn

[limpid yarrow]

die alive tree squad guide coming soon ™
i play a little differently but its a very good guide anyway

[quick jolt]

if someone explains how it works ill try it

[lament loom]

Oh this sounds like peak highroll

[formal shadow]

I mean it's just stacking

[robust thistle]

Sounds like clanker draft

[coarse notch]

collections and trees are fun cuz you get to gamble the fate of your run every ftt

[limpid yarrow]

you just get like
30+ bonus relics every run for free

[vital kelp]

do i prioritize spike nodes or emer nodes