help

[obtuse obsidian]

Drafting virt is pretty bad choice regardless of module tbh

[left tulip]

Btw is there a cap to how many summons dusk can summon I couldn’t find it on the wiki

[obtuse obsidian]

Is is very low def/res high hp mode even in mid diff

[undone portal]

on s3? completely uncapped during skill duration, have fun

[neat acorn]

Ye idk someone help this dude

[left tulip]

Oh that’s awesome to know ty

[ancient current]

wao is it uncapped really? thought it'd be capped like ros pillars

[buoyant sigil]

Does she now

[slate sigil]

[obtuse obsidian]

Caped by number of tiles

[ancient current]

cause ros pillars are capped at 21

[undone portal]

big part of why dusk s3 actually sorta works as a stall option as long as the enemies dont melt the freelings and immediately start moving again

[lavish ledge]

does camoflage still take damage from environment like mist from is2

[slate sigil]

ill try again rn

[undone portal]

freeling count is really only 'capped' by dusks own range

[ancient current]

from mist yes

[obtuse obsidian]

Camo is not immune to gas

[ancient current]

neither is invis

[left tulip]

Do ppl actually draft her in IS in ANY context

[buoyant sigil]

Camo IS immune to things like that mapwide ice attack from retracing our steps boss though

[obtuse obsidian]

Copium

[undone portal]

copable in is6 if you really want to run 4sui comp, but shes basically always a meme draft

[left tulip]

how good of a meme?

[buoyant sigil]

Uhm… joke-worthy performance

[obtuse obsidian]

Worse then every alpha meme draft

[undone portal]

pretty workable meme all things considered. benefits from sui hour, and its not like youre spending your caster vouchers on anyone else unless youre doing smth with pramalt

[obtuse obsidian]

Ok Maybe she can fight spalter april fool module

[buoyant sigil]

She’s not very good… yeah. Maybe if she costed something like 12 dp she’d be an okayish cost effective option but she’s a whopping 30+ dp splash caster of all things so no

[obtuse obsidian]

The dp aint an issue

[buoyant sigil]

True, but it does make her even worse

You can’t even use her as a body 💔

[undone portal]

the issue is her s3 sp cost and freelings still being made of wet paper even with mod alpha giving them a free shield

[neat acorn]

Wait is exu2 a supporter op

[obtuse obsidian]

Specalist

[undone portal]

geek specialist

[obtuse obsidian]

She speclize in removing enemies

[buoyant sigil]

If only dusk was a shaper caster

[proven kelp]

If an enemy can be stalled by a summon with barely 2k HP, sounds like a weak enemy that you can probably just outright kill it

[faint lotus]

She probably inspired them to be honest

[obtuse obsidian]

Just have enough aspd to summon a new one The moment The first die

[buoyant sigil]

I find that there are quite a few earlier 6* that clearly fit better with some later released archetypes but just didn’t release late enough for it

[undone portal]

s3 freelings really only functionally stall enemies with slow atk intervals. which, to dusks credit, do exist in is6 somewhat

or you could drug her with aspd buffs

[obtuse obsidian]

Sadly every ending nuke The map

[buoyant sigil]

Hell fiametta literally did Exu2 before it was cool. She should have been a geek. She had everything to be one

[undone portal]

even low rarity ops to an extent. i find myself wondering if bubble couldve been a duelist, zima a strategist, etc

[left tulip]

btw does pram do anything, i just got her off senior op instead of shamare

[obtuse obsidian]

Geek is not a new archtype btw

[buoyant sigil]

Yes

[faint lotus]

Podenco the 4* abjurer and alchemist

[obtuse obsidian]

Theres nothing about fia or exu being geeks anyway

[severe crypt]

She does her best (maybe)

[undone portal]

she generates kjerag stack in sp:a

[obtuse obsidian]

I guess exu s2 remove ally aspd which is similar to geek

[buoyant sigil]

red haired, long ranged damage dealer from laterano that gradually loses hp sounds a lot like both

[obtuse obsidian]

Am saying neither is geek

[left tulip]

is her dorm base ability any good

[buoyant sigil]

She is

[fresh anvil]

losing hp on talent vs passive aw hell naw

[faint lotus]

We do need more actual geeks

[undone portal]

exualt does indeed follow the geek formula of requiring some sort of self-sabotage to do her work
s2 inflicts aspd debuffs, s3 assumes someone is already dead to access the rdp utility
pretty clever kit design for a meta op, all things considered

[alpine lance]

Any operator that can increase the duration of any of freeze, stun, and the other effects? (Not within their own kit like crownslayer).

[fresh anvil]

does trag s3 count or what

[obtuse obsidian]

Geek was a buffer archtype before exu

That harm The buffed op in a way

Exu dont feel like geek since she focus on her self instead of allies, tho i guess The aspd debuff with shield is geeky enough

Fiameta dont have said gimmick at all even

Thats my point

[alpine lance]

Lemme go read, I only remember the bind

[undone portal]

fia? for sure, enables morale cyclings for proviso/shamteq to keep them working indefinitely
exualt base skill is unfortunately just strictly worse than exu1 unless you really need a backup team to cover for a lv3 tp shift, in which case exualt/lemuen/ambriel is functional

[obtuse obsidian]

Geek is older then fiametta

So if they wanted she could been a geek

[ancient current]

gnosis s3 effect applies to any freeze instance in his range so there's that ig

[alpine lance]

Nvm you said Trag not phantom.

[obtuse obsidian]

Wait this bypass ed4 anti freeze hmmm

[alpine lance]

Yup this is it. Thx a bunch

[undone portal]

artilleryman gave fia an interesting kit, so i dont mind
only kit flavor loss is that she has no ammo skills to synergize with her grandpa, but that arguably ties into her recurring problem with him and lateran society at large refusing to fully accept her and other liberi
fia is an excellent case study in gameplay-story integration actually. in this essay i will-

[spark sage]

need to borrow an e2 pram2, can someone give id so that i can add

[left tulip]

no i meant pramanix mb but looking at it now it looks just generic asf thing that a billion other ops have

[buoyant sigil]

I do get your point. Thank you

[obtuse obsidian]

Actually was ammo before or after fia i forgot

[undone portal]

before, ammos been around since ch'2n

[obtuse obsidian]

Actually was not ash The first ammo

[undone portal]

oh right, ash came first

[buoyant sigil]

I do still feel as though dusk could’ve been this much better as a shaper caster though. A shame. By making her freelings easier to spawn and sp/dp costs a bit easier on her usage, I don’t feel like she’d be too bad

[alpine lance]

Omg, lore accurate kit. Never thought about it (totally not because she's an old unit)

[ancient current]

ash came before gnosis?

because aurora was gnosis banner's 5*

[buoyant sigil]

Oh true…

[ancient current]

aurora the goat as always

[undone portal]

break the ice was after dossoles

[obtuse obsidian]

Ya ash is older

[ancient current]

...when was ash actually

is she that old

(am i that old)

[obtuse obsidian]

Before skalter even

[ancient current]

wtf!!!!

[undone portal]

ash - spring '21
ch'2n - summer '21
aurora - winter '21

[obtuse obsidian]

Almost as old as dusk

[alpine lance]

Read talent you get more aspd from there

[ancient current]

?????

[undone portal]

yea, very minor aspd for kal'tsit herself
the main benefit is for mon3tr

[ancient current]

ok i am this old

i'll go back to bed

[obtuse obsidian]

Same

[slate sigil]

i didn't place no one beside pram2 and thorns and killed him this is anti mlynar boss

[limpid yarrow]

(you'd think they'd highlight what changed between module levels)

[stark gulch]

the stat gains on modules after lv 1 are usually really bad, so youre mostly leveling modules for whatever talent bonus they add

[undone portal]

nope, play spot the differences like a real editor

[buoyant sigil]

Or read the boss mechanics yourself

[ancient current]

aged like milk

[undone portal]

yea ash is Old

[stark gulch]

has ash ran out of niches, i remember her being decent on release

[faint lotus]

You should look at lunacub’s module, highlights the attack interval decrease, but the wording doesn’t change

[obtuse obsidian]

At least she did something on release

[ancient current]

yeah ash's niche is "heal enemies"

[stark gulch]

lmao???

[buoyant sigil]

Can she actually do that I am not aware
Ohh

[ancient current]

no that's a metaphor for negative dmg unit

[obtuse obsidian]

She was good on release for short bursts

But then stuff survived that so she died

[undone portal]

did she she does the whole 'atk buff + marksman' shtick worse than exu1

[ancient current]

that's for #ak-lore

[slate sigil]

ulpi module or sash og module?

[ancient current]

no better options

or scarce

and stun immune wasn't too common

[undone portal]

still isnt, but that doesnt really salvage her dps output

[obtuse obsidian]

She had usage in cc5 and general content

Even was recommended pull here back then

She also hit def better iirc she did better VS ufos and shit

[stark gulch]

higher dmg per hit so was better than exu in some cases if you couldnt use an atk buffer for some reason, i think i used her for some cc map

[buoyant sigil]

Damage per stage

[ancient current]

ulpi mod1 if you want, og sash wants mod3

ash has dph (damage per hour)

[undone portal]

the short of it is that she has reason to fight alongside us once reunion falls apart
read main story + deivelluti for more info

[slate sigil]

[ancient current]

you can do 4 per day just fine yeah

[frank wing]

yes just use them, and theres not really that bad of a result if you run out

[ancient current]

no

unless you're like me and spam skip recruitment (please don't)

[vital kelp]

if u do 2 times 4 a day u will run out

[undone portal]

-# its because the alternative was just being a homeless trucker in siracusa. you can ask me more in #ak-lore

[ancient current]

sakiko

[jade herald]

-# why are you whispering?

[undone portal]

-# because this is offtopic for help channel

[frank wing]

buying from green certs is fine too since you get them back anyways through recruitment

[ancient current]

he's whispering because he thinks you will both be able to avoid help eviction by doing so

anyways, moving on

[vital kelp]

green - clear t1 buy recruit ticket from t2 and whatever mat
gold - save for good operator or 258 for 38 pulls
red - farm from AP-5 and buy chip catalyst and mod blocks
purple - buying furniture on rerun shop, used to buy mats and 2000 orundumb every event
headhunting excess - material leftover from sparking currency, used for material only
trust - trust point from reception, some mats

[undone portal]

exchanged for various ops/pulls/materials
green - buy out tier1 except gold/furniture parts every month, recruit gives you enough income to do this and gather a stockpile over time. on months where youre doing headhunting pulls, progress to tier2 and buy the hh tickets, recruit permits + any t3 mats youre short on
yellow - either save 258 to buy 38 hh tickets, or 180 to get a specific op you want
blue - doesnt matter, youll never earn these
purple - buy out the orundum first, then buy exp/lmd/materials as needed. you earn these during event reruns if you were there for the original run

[lyric lagoon]

you could also just do first time clears on annihilation missions for red certs, which you should do right now since they’re specially open

or well, ig not rn, maybe 5 days from now since we have an event rerun going on

[ancient current]

remember pins have various useful resources you can consult at any time

[wraith shoal]

what's the reason they opened all annis now and not only a few?

[undone portal]

they were feeling nice

[ancient current]

they do this during events like CC and stuff

[proven kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1503192059597820026/Yuri.gif

[ancient current]

Yuri.gif

[proven kelp]

[undone portal]

shameless self promo :realmad:

based on the ones you have in your sc..
5star: silence, 6star: silverash. if you have him, saria. if you have both, anyone but exu

exu1 has been washed for a while mod y did not save her

[lyric lagoon]

hence why we have exu2 anyways

[wraith shoal]

and costs a lot more to raise than her

[ancient current]

not in all content

krooster >>>>> exu in IS

[undone portal]

just barely even true. kroos mogs her in is2/3/4

[ancient current]

any IS really

[undone portal]

and archetto mogs both of them everywhere but i digress

[wraith shoal]

why does kroos scale so well with IS relics compared to exu1

[undone portal]

low sp cost. thats it really

[ancient current]

correct!

[reef sparrow]

whoever u use the most

[obtuse obsidian]

Low hope cost tbh

[undone portal]

if you use none of them.. red pots i guess?

[wraith shoal]

oh yeah forgot about hope

[reef sparrow]

get red for -rdp cope then

[proven kelp]

It's less that they're scale better and more of that they aren't 6* so they doesn't cost s kidney to get

[obtuse obsidian]

Also if you gonna spend on 6 star marksman archetto is way stronger now

[reef sparrow]

archetto redemption :ya:

[obtuse obsidian]

She was never super good

[dense walrus]

i thought this would be easy peasy but what the fuck sandstorm just kept killing all my medics

[ancient current]

liskarm is very far from "super good"

try "mid"

[proven kelp]

6* will almost always going to be better in performance because they have better stats and skill

But because you have to manage your resources, lower rarity have something they have better for

[wraith shoal]

in IS5 only no? Outside of that she's meh with her IS mod or is she still pretty good to pick?

[round turtle]

Idk what to choose lol

[undone portal]

not at all, and theres comfier choices for sp boosting (cough ptilopsis)

[ancient current]

so, try "niche"

[undone portal]

lemuen s3

[obtuse obsidian]

She is only non meta cause wis and shit exist

If you compare her to exu she mog her in every is with no fight

[round turtle]

Ril? How bout niche skills, i have like a dozen nuke skills alrdy

[limpid yarrow]

archetto is better in SPA
truly the more important metric

[undone portal]

i mainly suggest her s3 because the material cost is fucking ridiculous even for 6star standards

[proven kelp]

Trag s3

[round turtle]

Whar? Ril?

[limpid yarrow]

stacking agile > 1 fund 😊

[ancient current]

yeah, it has changed a lot
mediocre at best, I can't lie

[undone portal]

lemuen s3 has the highest material sanity cost for m3 iirc

[round turtle]

What does this excel at

[wraith shoal]

in EN. Titi s3 costs more

[obtuse obsidian]

A different way to trap enemies if s2 dont work

[undone portal]

situations where s2 doesnt work anymore. see dp cost/rdp time increases

[undone portal]

good thing theres no genuine use for titi s3 afaik

[obtuse obsidian]

S3 trag is actually one of The strongest skills in The game tbh

Its main issue is s2...

[limpid yarrow]

its year 1
the strongest are sash exu and hoshi
it's year 6
the strongest are sash2 exu2 and hoshi2...

[round turtle]

[wraith shoal]

takes a 5 star to max level

[ornate steppe]

what is nightingales best skill?

[ancient current]

s3

[spiral osprey]

Is martylr okay?

[wraith shoal]

yes since it says "senior" operator

[ancient current]

who?...

[ornate steppe]

ya think i need to invest in her? i use haruka and ptilopsis as medics

[undone portal]

yea
im assuming you mangled myrtles name

[wraith shoal]

they're top operators

[ancient current]

she is niche. only for high arts pressure

[spiral osprey]

The 1$ pack

[ancient current]

oh myrtle

[undone portal]

myrtles not worth your dollar. wait for dp recovery/vanguard + healing tag in recruitment

[ancient current]

she's fine yeah, good dp printer
e1 is fine

[wraith shoal]

myrtle? no you'll get her eventually

[spiral osprey]

also is this game pay to win?

[obtuse obsidian]

No

[wraith shoal]

no

[spiral osprey]

I seee just grind?

[undone portal]

far from it, you can get away with being severely underleveled for most stages if you know what youre doing

[obtuse obsidian]

Will techincally if you pay you can have more ops

But like its pve game thats very forgiven for not using meta

[rose mist]

Hi yall, will Kal's maid skin ever come back? And when?

[spiral osprey]

I see

[obtuse obsidian]

The grind aint even bad

[undone portal]

eventually, the paid skin packs do come back every once in a while, at hg/yostars discretion

[spiral osprey]

Wait where is this? The 9hr recruitment?

[ornate steppe]

isn’t nightingale still better than ptilopsis though

[undone portal]

enemies got stronger
other guards exist who do his job better and dont require extended setup

[faint lotus]

As a healer

[proven kelp]

And Haruka mogs her badly lol

[undone portal]

ptilopsis s2 beats her on raw hps

[faint lotus]

Ptilopsis has the best sp battery effect in the game

[ornate steppe]

shall i stick with this comp then

[wraith shoal]

you should stop at e2 lvl60, no reason to go beyond that

[undone portal]

silverash from the looks of it
rosmontis if youre playing is, install her alpha module

[proven kelp]

Lmao

No

[obtuse obsidian]

Silver ass and kal

Need silver module tho

[undone portal]

comfiest, sure, but best?

[faint lotus]

Who does then?

[proven kelp]

Shu

[obtuse obsidian]

wang he remove enemies so you have more time to get sp

[undone portal]

general term for any op who can charge sp for others

[obtuse obsidian]

Her talent

[undone portal]

she does, read her talent

[obtuse obsidian]

Granted its unnoticable so understandable

[undone portal]

note that ptilo only works for auto recovery
shu works for everyone

[faint lotus]

Shu gives 1 sp every 4 seconds, Ptilopsis gives 0.35 sp per second or around 1 sp every 3 seconds

[worldly estuary]

~~let them charge their skills but without enemies left to use at ~~

[obtuse obsidian]

Do redeploy relic stack addative with irene alpha?

[wintry rapids]

are there any other operators besides Warfarin who can heal %max hp

[undone portal]

shu has the.. erm, slightly major caveat of asking you to own at least 3 of her siblings

[past ferry]

Does Lappboss has perma stun immunity?

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbf he have one for trophy wife spot

[undone portal]

still does it best, even
only issue is the slightly awkward range, as usual

[proven kelp]

And she applies to it every operator in the game and not just Auto Recovery
She doesn't need to be deployed to be active

[obtuse obsidian]

And nobody care about res reduce anymore nowadays

[past ferry]

I struggled really hard with PV-EX-8 and then thought "Maby EratoS1+GnosisS1 could work"

[obtuse obsidian]

She dont hold up trust me

Oven is deadg

[undone portal]

most arts dps options dont really need the help these days
and wang just does it all himself

dusk was never that good

[worldly estuary]

[obtuse obsidian]

Dusk was always shit bro what are you on

Shitty ahh stall

[undone portal]

youre giving her freelings too much credit
we have tragodia for that now

[proven kelp]

Ptlopsis also have the problem called Bringing Ptlopsis

Medics for pure healing is outdated
Shu provides alot of utility and as game gets older, the Sui ops that she needs to have to trigger it will get stronger too so you will bring them regardless anyway

[undone portal]

'bring shu/wang/yu/nian' barely even sounds like a restriction, we're kinda already there

[wraith shoal]

wut

[undone portal]

never was

[worldly estuary]

She’s mid at best

[obtuse obsidian]

This is The only unit of yours that did not get powercrept out of The game tbh.

Granted she still niche as ever

[undone portal]

main character be damned, castermiya is still a 5star with shit numbers

[wraith shoal]

gacha game MCs always suck tbh

[worldly estuary]

Mc powercreep doesn’t exist here

[ancient current]

yeah and frostleaf is actually pretty strong in the lore

guess how she is in the game

[undone portal]

try letting frostleaf hold her own against frostnova like what happens in the story and see how that goes for you

[obtuse obsidian]

Best female 4 star lord

[worldly estuary]

Power of friendship seems that it doesn’t apply to the actual gameplay

[undone portal]

im sure arene could win if he really put his mind to it

[obtuse obsidian]

Look am year1 but i dont remember shit

Am mostly memeing around unless its high diffeculty intergated strategies

[undone portal]

not a year1 player but i kinda miss the era when zuo le was the talk of the town

we're in exualt era now

[ancient current]

year1 player and yeah the exualt/wang era is right now

[obtuse obsidian]

We already in wang era even tho his not out yet for global

Ya

More fun then exu or wis tbh

[worldly estuary]

Even since his appear in is6

[ancient current]

fun is subjective and shouldn't be discussed here

[undone portal]

hes a trapmaster so immediate yes from me

[ancient current]

to #arknights you go

[wraith shoal]

fuck IS6 wang honestly, gatekeeping me from mod3

[obtuse obsidian]

Wang boss is easy, just put a good healer on right ranged tile and wait for him with dps

[worldly estuary]

I just got lucky with a random leizi2 from voucher
you just need to avoid those mines

[obtuse obsidian]

Even pure stream should work so dont think The demand is that high

[ancient current]

which flamebringer skill should I m3

[wraith shoal]

his balls feel unkillable and they make all tiles kinda useless after some time

[undone portal]

and by 'good healer' that just means purestream

[wraith shoal]

the worst one so it's closer in power to his other one

[ancient current]

[obtuse obsidian]

S1 iirc

[ancient current]

s1 really?

[undone portal]

do s2, let him afkslop like he was always meant for

[fierce bane]

This is my squad should try fishing for tragodia and get hoederer with certificats

[ancient current]

is there some s1 angle i don't know of

[obtuse obsidian]

He might be able to activate s2 in an annihilation

[undone portal]

flamebringer s1 sounds like a poor mans hoe s1

[violet siren]

should I m3 sash s2 for funny 10% health regen per second + 900 defense lane holding with sash2 synergy?

[ancient current]

hypernova vs dying ant

[obtuse obsidian]

Hey hoe s1 is broken in one gamemode

Surely that mean flame s1 is good

[ancient current]

doesn't sound judicious
how many pulls do you have, how advanced is your pity

[obtuse obsidian]

Save your pulls for wang

You can try for trag later with better rates

[wraith shoal]

out of the glasgow 5 stars, which one is the better one?

[median valley]

So should I wait for the LMD supply mission to be available in order to farm a lot of LMD or is there another better method?

[undone portal]

if you want a kjeragi tank, matterhorn is cheaper and does the job better

[wraith shoal]

do not spend sanity on the supply mission for lmd

[fierce bane]

Lvl 56 player around 50 ish pulls after the limited banner ended can get to 100 real quick as well

[median valley]

Oh

[obtuse obsidian]

Save for wang

33% trag aint worth

[wraith shoal]

build your base so you have a nice daily lmd and exp income

[undone portal]

dagda is the least dogshit of the three imo, but oh god the bar is in superhell here

[ancient current]

to be fair i'm almost leaning on morgan but dagda is a fair call

but that's dying ant vs dying ant vs extra dead ant

[violet siren]

oh I forgot he existed

[wraith shoal]

I'm gonna max out everyone anyway, just thinking about the order. Delphine is the worst one would be my guess yeah?

[ancient current]

honestly delphine is fine ish

[undone portal]

i genuinely forgot about delphine
shes sorta alright for a 5star icl

[fierce bane]

Gotcha

[obtuse obsidian]

Actually delphine might be The best one for glasglow only memes

[wraith shoal]

aint she a mystic caster? Thought all of them were giga shit

[obtuse obsidian]

Like do you even hit air without her?

[ancient current]

lol. lmao, even

[obtuse obsidian]

Hey thats still better then whatever The shit those guards do

[undone portal]

yea, dagda/indra are held back by brawler kit design and morgan is just phys utage (bad)

[ancient current]

evicting you from help for harmonie slander

[wraith shoal]

[undone portal]

also indigo known goat for is

[ancient current]

harmonie lowkey has applications but you are mostly correct

[wraith shoal]

with a billion buffs

[ancient current]

without buffs, indigo is a solid unit

[undone portal]

with zero buffs indigo is a functional caster for is5/6 opener

[worldly carbon]

what applications

[obtuse obsidian]

Indigo is free binder

Thats better Then hiring a 100 hp caster for no damage usually

[wraith shoal]

then why are the 6 star mystic casters considered so bad

[ancient current]

is6 DoT, is4 mvspd reduction for eik

[ancient current]

too expensive and shit kit

[obtuse obsidian]

She can be a healer with big aspd buff or a guard that do true damage

[undone portal]

actual healer on s2
laneholder/healer/tank role compression on s3

[wraith shoal]

damn aight

[fierce bane]

Yes she is a healer that buffs your team and she can fight with s3 as well

[faint lotus]

Indigo is the only mystic with a well designed kit

[worldly carbon]

isn't Aosta the 5* is6 pick cus of DoT?...

[ancient current]

wat if no sniper voucher

[obtuse obsidian]

6 star works differently

Your comptition go from normal caster to whatever The fuck pram and logos do

[undone portal]

indigo gets to compete with such hits as .. gitano!

[obtuse obsidian]

Will theres click but its close fight

Eben cant even pass eyja how he fight logos

[vital kelp]

indigo compeititon is like click

everyone else is ass

[undone portal]

low hope caster drafts are basically just click/indigo/akkord/haze depending on what flavor of 'throwing away your caster voucher' you need

[vital kelp]

well wb amiya for class squads

[faint lotus]

Harmonie is probably the best 5* mystic, her s2’s aoe slow can be heplful

[undone portal]

medicmiya too

[ancient current]

ahh question

[undone portal]

[vital kelp]

there's another 5 star mystic?

[ancient current]

delphine...

[obtuse obsidian]

Theres like 3 of them

[faint lotus]

There’s three

[undone portal]

iris erasure wtfart

[ancient current]

oh yeah the uh... Iris!

[vital kelp]

wtf i never knew that

[wraith shoal]

Getting roasted over here . Well anyway, the order should be Delphine>Morgan>Dagda>Indra yeah?

[vital kelp]

they have like 6 whole operator in mystic?? jeez

[undone portal]

smth like that
delphine/morgan are required if your aim is to cope glasgow for base

[ancient current]

Iris is like ok
outperforms Verdant in his own paradox
has a niche (a bad one)
fine damage

[wraith shoal]

base+ gameplay

[rough sierra]

Hello, which Umiri skill works the best in general stages?

[obtuse obsidian]

Is viy or whatever his called The only mystic with different s1 then The line shit?

[faint lotus]

Iris is a sleep operator, and delphine stands there menacingly while not actually killing anything

[vital kelp]

they have 3 whole 5 star operator to test and experiment on and they still fail to design a good 6 star mystic

[undone portal]

yea, viy has a different and even worse s1 actually

[obtuse obsidian]

Pogchampion

[faint lotus]

Mystic s1 it the tactical reload button

[ancient current]

holy shit you're correct!!!! finally one that doesn't have that one skill
well, at least the skill icon background is correct this time

[undone portal]

viy just has the aspd, no range modification, so you cant tactical reload with it

[dense walrus]

is viy ass

[vital kelp]

yes

[undone portal]

not as ass as he could be, but not really worth building for the average account

hes.. hes better than carnelian!

[ancient current]

can shill-eds shill viy

[obtuse obsidian]

I use The fear skill on her
this is The ambusher right? I forget which is which all The time

[undone portal]

viy + astgennalt s3 is the new welfare arts dmg wombo combo, so absolutely

[wraith shoal]

he's not welfare so would he care?

[rough sierra]

Yeah lol, it's the human manticore

[faint lotus]

Her s1

[ancient current]

isnt he welfare

[faint lotus]

He is welfare

[rough sierra]

Ok thanks people

[dense walrus]

is hypergraph so ungenerous that they can't give out a proper good free unit, like mlynar for example

[wraith shoal]

he is free but something something welfareknights dont consider chapter freebies as welfares or something like that

[neat acorn]

Son

[undone portal]

i dont think shileds cares about that distinction

[wraith shoal]

honestly that distinction is just glasgow discrimination smh

[undone portal]

shileds brings shalem/raidian a lot
arkrec welfareknights rules dont count is welfares either

[obtuse obsidian]

Then ya i prefer s2 all The time on her

[rough sierra]

Yeah, S1 seems a bit bad on m3

[ancient current]

https://en.arkrec.com/category-definitions

im sure i'm seeing valarqvin and co

[rough sierra]

Im planning to use her in IS

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbh she mostly sakiko range op

[faint lotus]

If you’re using umiri with any other ave mujica unit, use her s1

[ancient current]

and yeah I forgot chapter "welfares" don't count

keep forgetting because of how dumb it is

[rough sierra]

Is it to boost the fever gain?

[faint lotus]

Using ave mujica skills makes umiri use her s1 for free

[undone portal]

ah, misremembered
i recall shileds having nuanced thoughts on heidi though

[faint lotus]

It’s also insane with fever

[obtuse obsidian]

Is that good enough to favor it? Espically in is?

[faint lotus]

For IS 6 the multi hit helps, but I don’t find her that much use in IS

[vital kelp]

shes peak in is with archetoo + sakiko s1

[rough sierra]

I see, thank you, you two. Your thoughts on this matter is appreciated

[obtuse obsidian]

Oh true i should try more funny archetto combos

[vital kelp]

damage atack from tinman thingy right

[faint lotus]

What about it?

[undone portal]

alchemy units deal unsourced damage. tinman wont kill himself on spiked chests in other words

[hybrid bluff]

Is suzuran worth investing

[neat acorn]

What’s the hardest stage someone has beaten with only 1 stars

[wild cedar]

cc

[neat acorn]

[stray grotto]

is there any way to speedup how slow training or are you just supposed to slowly train your team for weeks

[ancient current]

good debuffer so if you want that, sure
low prio if you have other stuff to build

[undone portal]

do stages with roadblocks count as hard

[hybrid bluff]

Don’t know what to invest rn so

Maybe wait

[ancient current]

i'll go sleep but if you send your roster people will guide you on who to invest in

[undone portal]

early on, when you have a whole team to raise at once, its gonna feel a little slow
once your foundation is set and you can focus on just raising one op at a time, 6stars take about 2weeks of effort

[ancient current]

on that, gn

[stray grotto]

how important are modules

[nocturne laurel]

depends on the operator

[undone portal]

depends on the op. some tie the entire kit together, others are close to worthless

[stray grotto]

whos modules should i focuz on first (and do i have to level them asap)

[spiral osprey]

I dunno if this works

[undone portal]

saki/logos asap > trag > ines/degen/mon3tr/surtr

[stray grotto]

wut about levels? (module lvls)

[stray grotto]

follow kyostiv guides for now and level what he uses

[spiral osprey]

I dont have the other heroes tho 🙁

[neat acorn]

Work for what

[stray grotto]

he uses 2 and 3 and 4 stars ur fine just look for his playlist for the main story and use the low rarity operators he uses

[undone portal]

saki wants 3, 2 at absolute minimum. logos wants delta3
trag sticks to 2 if you can spare getting him all the way to lv88
ines 1, degen y2, mon3tr 2, surtr x2

[spiral osprey]

Like this matterhorn and gitano

[vital kelp]

everything in the bottom row is a luxury get tbh, not really worth

[stray grotto]

got it

[vital kelp]

modding surtr and degen in 2026 is... eh

[neat acorn]

We love surtr

[undone portal]

luxuries are fine if these are the only 6stars theyll have for a while
depends on how frugal you want to be with your modblocks. i make worse decisions

[vital kelp]

only if she wasnt old and mid

[stray grotto]

im pulling twice a year so it doesnt hurt to mod em

[hardy otter]

Generally should you save recruitment tickets or keep spending them

[vital kelp]

spend

[stray grotto]

you mean permits?

[hardy otter]

yeah whatever they're called

[stray grotto]

i mean i spend mine as soon as i get them

[neat acorn]

I have like 60 because I’m too lazy to use them

[stray grotto]

ive gotta use em cuz every pull counts

[neat acorn]

I have like 30 pulls in tickets and wondering if I should pull on orio

[stray grotto]

save for wang banner

[jade herald]

What other Shu skill is worth upgrading for general and IS? S1?

[neat acorn]

I have enough to spark him without the tickets

Maybe 5 pulls won’t hurt

[stray grotto]

kalt then?

[vital kelp]

no

[vital kelp]

i can smell gambling addiction

[stray grotto]

why waste pulls just cuz

[neat acorn]

I haven’t pulled in any of my gacha games

[near temple]

Should i upgrade logos when i had alr had e2 pramanix alter

[dense walrus]

which one first

[pliant summit]

Prama alter

[pliant summit]

Logos fufills a different caster role so yeh

[vital kelp]

pram2

[near temple]

Ok thx

[neat acorn]

The gambling did not pay off

No more gambling till wang

[odd sky]

s2 usage is very very rare, it's for regen sow tile enmity or outside range, not worth at all
s1 is just afk, but that also can be substituted with s3 with just one skill activation

oh yea s2 has lower sp cost than s3

[jade herald]

thanks. I mainly use s3 but i've seen more s1 than s3 in some hard stage tutorials when i resort to them

[odd sky]

afk is everywhere

[severe crypt]

If s1 works, you can bet s3 works better

[jade herald]

yeah its really strong. I need to abuse s3 teleport more

[odd sky]

i guess i've seen s2 usage more for lower sp cost healing than sow tile

[vital kelp]

lower uptime tho

[formal shadow]

who be caring about emnity healing with shu 💀

[odd sky]

defenderknights

[formal shadow]

use the superior defender, Jesscat

[zinc crown]

I need to heal my Zuo on s2 because he eats his health this is a very big problem

[jade herald]

Jessica2 shield is cool

[formal shadow]

her damage is fairly unfortunate outside her s3 bomb. But she has good skin and fun to use

[silk jacinth]

Is anyone else's Key Objectives for Stronghold bugged or something? I just needed two that requires, 20/50 stacks in Durable, Raid, Marvel, or Investor. But when I finished a simulation with well over 60 durable, it didn't check off for me??? I was on Standard Simulation.

[crisp loom]

So theres no noteworthy pulls in between now and wang right, how about wang till kal2

[vital kelp]

zima2

[wraith sentinel]

Was it active or did you just have stacks built?

[crisp loom]

Ah yeah zima2, the pepe powercreep kappa

Thats between wang and kal2 right?

[silk jacinth]

It was built, did I actually have to have it active and kept my Cuora up the whole time?

[odd sky]

just in case, this is sarcasm right?

[wraith sentinel]

I think it has to be active when the last round ends at least.

[severe crypt]

I feel like the latter part of the statement makes it clear

[silk jacinth]

This goddamn game some times I swear

[shadow bay]

seems like a genuine question to me, and he just fail to read

[severe crypt]

Really nomnom

[odd sky]

idk if you know this but, zuo le wants to be low hp for the sweet aspd and sp buff, zuo le specifically mitigated soloblade's weakness by barrier instead of hellagur's dodge, which is miles better @zinc crown

[zinc crown]

The ❌ was sarcastic

[severe crypt]

Guys
This is taking the piss 101

[leaden yoke]

Does anyone know the name of this page were I can filter operators by what they do?

Like you can sort it so only operators that have atk buffs show and so on.

[severe crypt]

Tomimi.dev I think

[shadow bay]

tomimi

[leaden yoke]

ty

[obtuse obsidian]

Np

[leaden yoke]

Name checks

[zinc crown]

What squad has the highest average damage across every stage?

[obtuse obsidian]

Damage per stage is based on enemy hp not your unit damage 👏

[ancient wind]

That's an obscenely difficult question to answer given how many stages and conditions there are for each stage

[zinc crown]

Oh true how about dps then

[wraith shoal]

also depends on enemy res and def so it's not one best squad

[vital kelp]

theres only a set amount of hp per stage based on enemy

[leaden yoke]

He took the brute force part way too serious

[leaden yoke]

Dps is based on how fast mobs spawn.

[obtuse obsidian]

Wang wis and forget The other 10 slots

[vital kelp]

wisadel dps is low

[obtuse obsidian]

Will until a thorn chest appear and kill both that is but thats another story

[leaden yoke]

It's actually high if she one shots the mob. If it takes multiple shots then is low

[obtuse obsidian]

Thorn chest winning every ranged match up

[zinc crown]

Per shot dps is pretty high

[wraith shoal]

dps is damage per second. Her s3 heavily decreases her attack speed so dps is low. Y'all talking about dph

[obtuse obsidian]

If you looking for pure dps i guess exu2 since wang also like to spread his shit instead of throwing it all in 2 seconds

[zinc crown]

Damage / number of seconds = dps, shooting one bullet takes small number seconds and does sizeable damage so for one shot, dps is high

[vital kelp]

do u consider leizi2 s1 infinite dmg then

[zinc crown]

No it takes time to cast

[vital kelp]

15k divided by like 3 frames is like 300k dps

[wraith shoal]

leizi2 best op confirmed

[leaden yoke]

Highest dps probably is Lemuen tactical nuke.

Like 7 shots in the span of 1 second

[obtuse obsidian]

Yapping season broom if you asking

[formal shadow]

wis DPS is actually not that bad even including how long it takes for her to fire each shot. Also there's the summon damage

compare that to typhon s3 with nothing like that, the possiblity of having your arrows hit another target alongside, and takes even longer to fire a shot

[obtuse obsidian]

Hey why The random typhon jab

[formal shadow]

because I like to do that with typhon s3

[wraith sentinel]

We already knew that.

[obtuse obsidian]

You all will apologize to typhon once typhon podenco become The meta of is7

[leaden yoke]

Now like genuine question, what does people use for healing when Haruka and Eyja alter are out of the picture.

I can think of Shu/Saria, Ptilopsis, Shining and Reed2. Is there any other good healer on this level that I'm missing on, or that's about it?

[obtuse obsidian]

Paprika

[wraith sentinel]

Mon3tr (with S2).

[slim tusk]

sneaky shining

[neat acorn]

Mons3tr

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbh healing is such low demand that you can use trash hellya

[sleek finch]

in case you are curious

wis s3 is around 3.3k dps on main target

typhon s3 (not mod alpha) is 2.2k, single target

its not remotely close

[leaden yoke]

I might have mixed up the names

[wraith sentinel]

Or use Blaze to heal Exusiai (the alters).

[zinc crown]

Does hoe s1 count

[sullen loom]

Can office be downgraded?

[sleek finch]

meanwhile exu s2 is 10k dps btw

[obtuse obsidian]

Shining still better healer then l*men

[formal shadow]

well you see I do actually draft typhon in IS, but I s2 typhon :clueless:

[obtuse obsidian]

Welcome to level 3 office bro

[neat acorn]

Son

[sullen loom]

Damn, should i go 243 then? Or stick with 252 and more lvl 2 factory?

[obtuse obsidian]

Stick to 252

[neat acorn]

Stick with 252

[young path]

no but its not a huge loss stick to 252 its still better

[wraith shoal]

this wis reaction needs to be banned honestly

[neat acorn]

Never

[obtuse obsidian]

Somehow we still dont have :ya:

[leaden yoke]

To be fair, If I had a low level Office I would be stuck with hundreds of recruitment tickets because I don't log in as often.

With 3 slots I still have like 230 of those things

[jade herald]

Aren't you lack base energy with 252?

[obtuse obsidian]

You downgrade a factory or 2

[leaden yoke]

idk if that lvl 2 or what

[neat acorn]

Just downgrade some stuff

[wraith sentinel]

Even with a maxed out right side 252 is still more efficient.

[neat acorn]

I can confirm that

[shadow bay]

and then this people forget about the utae

[neat acorn]

Why won’t hg let us downgrade the right side

[wraith sentinel]

Because they hate us.

[zinc crown]

They run 243

[jade herald]

so like 2-3 underupgraded factories for gold and other factories for exp? (im not late game and dont farm orirock yet)

[wraith sentinel]

Even in late game don't farm it.

[wraith sentinel]

If you have Proviso setting one Trading Post at Lv. 2 works too.

[exotic pelican]

are there any modules i should raise higher that i haven't? i have an excess of LMD/module mats atm https://www.krooster.com/u/hmmmyikes

i was considering ulpi mod3, but i'm unsure how much the extra hp gain on hit actually matters

[neat acorn]

Do I just gain knowledge of every niche op when I hit lvl 120

[exotic pelican]

or surtr mod3 for the extra res penetration

[exotic pelican]

bro i've been 120 for years and i still don't know what ebenholz does aside from #help telling me he's bad

[wraith shoal]

crownslayer needs mod3

[leaden yoke]

Surtr Mod lvl 3 is insignificant as far as I remember, don't even bother after lvl 1

[exotic pelican]

X-3 or Y-3?

[leaden yoke]

Y

[exotic pelican]

oh to make her gigastunner, i see

[wraith shoal]

the one you already have Yo I thought you had Y, why would you get modx

[raven ermine]

surtr mod2 and ulpi mod1 are enough

[slim tusk]

cs is stunbot,see the mod that lenghten it 🤯

[exotic pelican]

thank you! i'll raise CS Y-3 and surtr mod2. am i looking alright otherwise?

[raven ermine]

Yeah, i might've missed something, but looks good to me

[exotic pelican]

thanks! i like to give my ops higher modules since i find i have way more module blocks than books. ever since i started working on more niche masteries, i ran out of books super fast...

[raven ermine]

Yep books can be a bottleneck if you're not too tight on your choices of masteries

[exotic pelican]

i think X came out first and i give every 6-star a module so i unlocked it on her. could be misremembering though

[raven ermine]

Crownslayer came out with modx
Mody was added later

[rocky cloak]

Is it S3M3 for Angelina with is mod?

[ancient current]

yes

[vital kelp]

Really?

[raven ermine]

Well i'm botllenecked by books so it's at least true for me
Did like 20 m3s in the span of 3ish weeks

[jade herald]

Is Perfumer good in IS?

Like for a 0 cost

[proven kelp]

At that point it's less that she's "good" and more of she's free

Does it really matter if she's good there or not if you're gonna pick her regardless since it's better than picking the free operator

Also you'd rather get Purestream first

[sleek finch]

no, typically you rather pick purestream who has better burst heal and range

[normal crypt]

purestream is good and she counts as yan for is6, if you want to splurge a little you can always get medic amiya, you get a lot more than just a medic this way

[jade herald]

Ok, thanks! i just thought she might be better because of her passive whole map healing

[proven kelp]

That global healing won't do jack lol
It's such an insignificant amount that it might as well not exist

[wraith shoal]

google play games is an emulator too

[jade herald]

GpG is an emulator

[wraith shoal]

mumuplayer, gpg sucks

[raven ermine]

ldplayer and mumuplayer are the ones to go for
Bluestacks is terrible, gpg has many compatibility issues

[wraith shoal]

gpg is basically a crashing simulator

[jade herald]

Ok! Im basically nepo baby in arknights and started with good units. Now i think about upgrading lower level units for IS

[proven kelp]

You really rather not

Unless you're gonna play IS for fun and not simply for the resources, you're just spending resources to get more free resources

You can easily just only draft 6* for your runs and still win easily

[raven ermine]

Gpg is just the official google play "pc port"
It's not stable, we see players complaining about it often
They're likely not emulating the entire device, and that might be part of the issue

[jade herald]

yeah kinda. Its not really impressive but i'm at asc10 in IS6 and soon gonna beat ending 3 doing basically what you described

[wraith shoal]

cn has one, we dont know if we're gonna get it too

[raven ermine]

CN has one
Issue is, our publisher is yostar, not HG, so it's up to them i suppose
Nothing has been announced on our side afaik

[jade herald]

they are 6 months ahead

[wraith shoal]

cause yostar sucks ass that's why. They distribute the game on global, not hypergryph

[jade herald]

I think we will get pc client 6 months after the cn. Maybe between next 2 limited banners. Just a speculation tho

[wraith shoal]

cn got it on wang iirc

[maiden dagger]

Because Yostar wants money

I suggest just using MuMu or ld player

I personally prefer mumu cuz ld is buggy asf on windows 11 cause windows 11 are horrible

[wraith shoal]

i transitioned to mumu recently cause of gpg issues again and it's been great so far

[maiden dagger]

LD has some weird hyper V bug which seems to be unfixable if it occurs rn so I'd say just stick with mumu for windows

[jade herald]

I used Mumu, GpG and Bluestacks (🤢 ). Mumu is the best. Not bloated like other ones

[maiden dagger]

Just type mumu on chrome and download
I lowk needed no guide it's that simple

[undone tree]

guys, can i ask if crownslayer is any good?

[wraith shoal]

mumu is available on mac as well

[maiden dagger]

For a welfare

[wraith shoal]

no she's not, at least for the average player

[jade herald]

requires max investment in her. Decent only if. Other than that not really

[wraith sentinel]

Only in her niche with very high investment (S3M3 Module Lv. 3), generally not going to be worth it unless you know what you're doing.

[raven ermine]

If you have to ask, she's not
Too expensive for what you'll do with her

[maiden dagger]

Only welfares you should invest in is stuff like Gladiia or Lumen

[undone tree]

she's low dp cost and seems to have quite a unique kit

[wraith shoal]

hell no

[maiden dagger]

And more I just lowk don't remember don't X me chat

[raven ermine]

No, not more
less
Like none actually

[maiden dagger]

Did Lumen fall of that much?

[wraith shoal]

tequila maybe if you're new, and krooster, that's it

[mild yacht]

Fell off long long ago.

[maiden dagger]

Im sorry I got my data still from 2023

[raven ermine]

Why would you raise lumen when purestream work just as well and is incredibly cheap in comparison

[undone tree]

elemental injury is rare they told me iirc, not all have and reduced healing for far allies

[lyric lagoon]

he’s not even for injury, he’s for status effects

[maiden dagger]

Ok don't invest in welfares they're all dogshit 👍

[undone tree]

oh yeah that

[proven kelp]

He can't fall when he was never up

[wraith sentinel]

S1 is generic and S2 is not great. S3 is the main thing but needs max investment to have full uptime (otherwise the Stun is just intermittent).

[raven ermine]

Kinda
Outside of kroos2 and tequila for newbies that is

[undone tree]

so, should i build crownslayer? i have good afk team (pramanix 6* and silverash alt)

[maiden dagger]

Vigil alter will break the meta

[wraith shoal]

no

[mild yacht]

He fell when he tried to take the first step onto the bus.

[maiden dagger]

No twinjamin she not good

[undone tree]

even at max?

[wraith shoal]

yes

[wraith sentinel]

(I mean, if you like her it isn't going to be a waste, but that is also only if you do use her.)

[undone tree]

duly noted, thanks

[jade herald]

Does Ulpianus really require Gladiia? Is she worth having in the squad for general content?

[maiden dagger]

No

[wraith shoal]

no and no

[undone tree]

i remember that one operator that like, teleports towards the enemies, i thought that was her

[raven ermine]

You're likely making your team worse by bringing gladiia
Gladiia is giving ulpi 210hps and 30DR
That's like, an offskill medic, that doesn't work for other ops

[wraith sentinel]

It isn't teleport, she just turns invisible and has an expanded range during her S3.

I think only Ch'en the Dawnstreak and Bellone have undirected teleport/redeployment at the moment?

[jade herald]

yeah i think she is similar to Sakiko squad in that regard. Wasting a slot for a small buff

[maiden dagger]

Also is sakiko considered meta meta or like mid meta

[proven kelp]

I mean, i won't recall a s3 Saki every 30 sec or so a small buff

[raven ermine]

You get what they mean, outside of low team quality, you're better off bringing another operator

[coarse notch]

solidly meta, whatever that means

[undone tree]

who's sakiko?

[wraith sentinel]

Collab operator.

[raven ermine]

A past collab, a 6* lord

[maiden dagger]

You really don't need the passive healing Ulpianus has 943838283 hp and any medic can do the healing + he literally heals on hit the last thing you need is a whole deployed unit just for his exclusive healing

[jade herald]

her S3 is really good vs high def bosses and her s2 is kinda good lane holder.

[undone tree]

are they gonna rerun

[wraith shoal]

no

[wraith sentinel]

Unlikely.

[frosty flame]

bind tho

[raven ermine]

Wat

[frosty flame]

gladiia s3 can stop enemies even if they are immune to the shifting iirc

[maiden dagger]

Specifically sakiko probably no like 0 hope but you never know right
Another collab possible, and the skins would return to shop, but that's also unlikely at least for a long time

[frosty flame]

so its still a decent cc character outside of the passives imo

[raven ermine]

One (1) enemy
And that's not enough to make her worth a slot, what
Just bring a dedicated CC operator if you want that

[coarse notch]

the bind is short and useless
also bind immune enemies exist you know

[worldly carbon]

do they actually? I only know one

[jade herald]

in the span of 6 years no collab operators ever rerun i believe, but you never know

[rocky pilot]

Note
The only collab event that returned is rainbow 6

[jade herald]

oh, you proved me wrong

[worldly carbon]

rainbow 6

[undone tree]

i honestly hated it when i missed the dungeon collab

[proven kelp]

Nine Colored Deer

[rocky pilot]

I thought that ela is the elephant in the room

[raven ermine]

Ash reran when ela came out
That's not proof that it will happen again tho

[worldly carbon]

nine colored deer ran twice?

[coarse notch]

honestly i think its just eik tbh
the bigger issue is everything else with the skill

[grizzled galleon]

but we dont talk about monster hunter collab rn ;-;

[undone tree]

wait off topic, why is wang release date is stated february 2026

[jade herald]

That means that that guy has a chance

[pliant summit]

Do you think nine colored would ever get a third rerun?
Both times she ran was during the two hiatus I had

[rocky pilot]

Cn server

[frosty flame]

still something besides the module and passive ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wraith shoal]

we dont know if the older monhun ops would rerun like they did with r6

[raven ermine]

Pretty sure she won't
You can cope

[maiden dagger]

Cn is 5-6 months in front of global

[coarse notch]

basically negligble stuff for the cost

[wraith shoal]

6 months ahead

[pliant summit]

Guess I can cope and go play the nine colored deer event in Sky 😔

[wraith sentinel]

(Other way around.)

[undone tree]

i have a brain of a goldfish, what is his release date then? kinda forgot after reading the manual here

[maiden dagger]

Yes sorry

[wraith sentinel]

Just add six months...

[wraith shoal]

on cn he released on february, so we will get him in the summer

[rocky pilot]

2 + 6

[jade herald]

He will debut on global mid July

[maiden dagger]

They are usually around mid July and early August leaning towards mid July

[ornate comet]

Which vanguards should I use out of these? I am thinking about using surfer and cantabile

[undone tree]

oh shit i only have 10k orondum 😭😭

[maiden dagger]

There can be delays but not common

[wraith shoal]

those 2

[rocky pilot]

You can just look on previous sui banners release date on the wiki to estimate the time yourself

[maiden dagger]

Cantabile

[ornate comet]

Quick question however, I've heard myrtle is really good but is cantabile and surfer really better?

[maiden dagger]

Walmart Ines but she's fairly good

[wraith shoal]

whoever told you myrtle is really good was lying

[worldly carbon]

I'd think think the bigger issue is that you'd raise a 6* operator that requires mod to be a healer to 1 character when a medic or abjurer can do the job for everyone

[jade herald]

I think this website is pretty acurate for calculating pulls. https://imivi.github.io/arknights-pulls-calculator/

[maiden dagger]

This would do numbers in 2021
Her DP gain is matched (or nearly matched) by many 6 star operators nowadays who do way more than just dp gain

[rocky pilot]

“Myrtle really good”
Is only because she’s cheap af to raise and easy to get and a good enough dp printer if you don’t have other good vanguards

[wraith sentinel]

Still, at least she's cheap and has generally quick start.

[ornate comet]

Oh fair enough, cantabile and surfer it is then :)

[maiden dagger]

I mean yea but that's some big conditions

[wraith sentinel]

Those aren't big conditions at all.

It's more a barrier to entry kind of thing.

[maiden dagger]

So good for new players, true, the same way cantabile is for example

[jade herald]

IS mostly since Ines and SilverAss

[undone tree]

slowly removes myrtle out of my building priorities

[wraith shoal]

remove her faster

[maiden dagger]

I mean if you have no 6 stars then yea build her but if you do then don't you don't need her to clear the game

[undone tree]

I ONLY FOUND OUT CANTABILE IS BETTER 😭😭😭😭

[rocky pilot]

Next time ask questions faster

[undone tree]

i have cantabile, so maybe ill use her instead

[proven kelp]

I mean, unlike Myrtle, those other Vanguards aren't useless after the first 30 sec of the map

Agents can act as a decent helidrop and help other part of the map by redeploying
Myrtle does jack after producing DP

[jade herald]

nah what? she is good. Cantabile is better like only on deployment

[undone tree]

oh i see

[maiden dagger]

Why me we agree

[maiden dagger]

You can just place cantabile behind a lane holder for extra dmg since her range is 3 tiles

[raven ermine]

Myrtle is serviceable for dp gen
She's not a good vanguard tho, that's for sure
She doesn't do jack shit outside of dp, which is bad, and dp gen of agents is very comparable, and they can actually kill stuff and gain you time instead of waving a flag and getting mauled by dogs

[wintry steppe]

is 252 still good for base?

[maiden dagger]

And her dp gain isn't bad

[wraith sentinel]

Yes.

[raven ermine]

That's still the best setup and it won't change unless they release a huge payoff baseskill for max dorms or some shit

They did release 243 support here and there, but it's not shifting the meta

[ornate comet]

is silver ashe's skill 2 better than his skill 1? (I don't have him at e2 yet so I can't use his skill 3)

[broken flame]

Base out of beta when

[wraith shoal]

243 only with exodia iirc

[wraith sentinel]

Hasn't the base been out of the beta for a while?

[jade herald]

yes

[raven ermine]

exodia run 252

[wraith shoal]

his s1 is just for annihilation or something, it's not that good

[broken flame]

do you mean og or alt

[wraith sentinel]

It's kinda funny using him as a solo Vanguard on S2 though.

[wraith shoal]

I swear I've seen people here talking about how exodia is 243

[jade herald]

wait, alter right? his skills are s3 > s2 > s1 i believe

[raven ermine]

I've seen people here say wild things about base
Does not mean they're right

[broken flame]

oh did they get it out of beta with the rotations? i didn't even realize lmao

[wraith sentinel]

S3 > S2 for Masteries, both have their own uses in combat.

[wraith shoal]

yeah but his s1 has a 30 sp cost on M3 for not much dp

[maiden dagger]

Unless you desperately need dp then you should probably first focus on s3

[undone tree]

is santalla garbage

[wraith sentinel]

I've never actually used his S1.

Just S2 and S3, the former especially when doing Trust autos.

[broken flame]

I just use S3 all the time

except anni

[maiden dagger]

Everyone matters
Anyways she's garbage what other casters do you have

[wraith sentinel]

You have Pramanix.

[maiden dagger]

Pram Amiya is enough for act I twinjamin

[spare jetty]

er

[maiden dagger]

Except tallulah

[spare jetty]

note that u can skip to ch9 and 15 after 3-8

[maiden dagger]

I actually read the story I forgot you can do that

[undone tree]

she's my only arts damage dealer iirc

[wraith shoal]

pram2 does arts

[undone tree]

yeah

[maiden dagger]

I say just grind and pull till you get better ones, those 2 are your only good ones for the time being

[wraith shoal]

then why amiya

[raven ermine]

Well you don't need more than that

[slim tusk]

pram is enough arts

[spare jetty]

pram2 is alr the better one

[undone tree]

i was only pertaining to pram lol, amiya s3 is dogshit

[vast estuary]

Hi what's hoedere's best skill to m3

[spare jetty]

r u using him in general content or is5

[coarse notch]

s1 for is5, s3 for outside of is5 if you're really trying to force him

[maiden dagger]

Don't use Amiya unless you really need 2 art dealers and don't use her S3 if you use amiya

[vast estuary]

General

[spare jetty]

s3 then

[rocky pilot]

That’s the thing you don’t raise amiya until like very late into the story to get some secrets here and there

[jade herald]

i changed it to 252. How many factories is best for gold?

[vast estuary]

Tyvm

[coarse notch]

2 or 3

[maiden dagger]

Doesn't the story force you

[raven ermine]

Do you have proviso ?

[wraith shoal]

1 tp should be lvl2

[spare jetty]

only when 14-21 which is very far

[undone tree]

oh wait, is wang an arts damage dealer?

[jade herald]

no

[rocky pilot]

Yes

[undone tree]

problem solved

[rocky pilot]

In 3 months

[wraith shoal]

1 lvl2 tp for proviso mayu no?

[raven ermine]

Then go for 2 gold 3 exp and see if you bleed gold or not, check depot here and there

[coarse notch]

there was no problem to begin with you have pram

[maiden dagger]

If you get Wang you can probably solo early game stages just with him

[raven ermine]

They don't have proviso man

[undone tree]

in IS the enemies are shittily heavy

[wraith shoal]

well I said that before they said they didnt have her

[spare jetty]

pram has actual utils

[undone tree]

their def is so thick it pisses me off

[jade herald]

thanks! i will try 1 lvl3 and 1 lvl2 factory for gold

[coarse notch]

pram2 is sufficient as solo arts damage most of the time in IS

[undone tree]

yeah but like need one for outer field and one for inner field, to shred them

[raven ermine]

That's the issue, you can't advise tp lv2 if you don't know if they have her or not

[maiden dagger]

How to not go insane playing is3

[coarse notch]

people oriented squad and zzz

[wraith shoal]

mb mb, still a #help trainee

[rocky pilot]

That’s the thing
Is IS

[worldly carbon]

am I also a #help trainee then?

[rocky pilot]

I just roam around here

[wild cedar]

Is FAE’s help tier list out yet

[maiden dagger]

I'm unlicensed #help tourist

[coarse notch]

IS carries tend to be physical damage dealers anyways

[undone tree]

that just sounds like you're saying, hell is hell

[raven ermine]

tf is a help trainee in the first place
You give advice if you have something pertinent to say is all

[rocky pilot]

Just do your job that doesn’t pay you

[worldly carbon]

I have a doctorate in vanguards if you ever need it

[wraith shoal]

trying to help but not a veteran so still learning stuff myself

[maiden dagger]

Is vulpisfoglia underrated or fairly rated

[silver smelt]

u give advice if u have correct* pertinent information

[shadow bay]

no way help trainee is a thing

[jade herald]

yeah same lol. for some reason im addicted to this channel

[silver smelt]

[raven ermine]

See nomnom, they're not even getting paid :icant:

[slim tusk]

who

[silver smelt]

shes fairly rated as mid yes

[wraith shoal]

I'm not, it's just that #arknights is brainrot so this is the best available channel

[winged thunder]

Which ops and strategy is best used to finish these?

[pine plover]

pioneer and charger might as well dead subclasses

[maiden dagger]

#arknights is scary so here we can actually talk about arknights instead of scary pictures

[jade herald]

that is true. Im glad mods are not **really **stingy here

[wild cedar]

Throns2, I am serious btw

[raven ermine]

#stronghold-hall should be what you're looking for

[pine plover]

some quicky hint: each ceylon give +2 stack to active alliance every round

[winged thunder]

Ah thanks for the redirect, didnt know bout this channel

[buoyant sigil]

flagpipe frfr

(It’s kind of a waste of slots tbh)

[pine plover]

i play with no vanguard just fine tbh

[azure pivot]

Arturia s2 and jessicat2 s2 is surprisingly fun in this event against the cars, but it is their s3 that i should mastery first right?

[worldly carbon]

I play with 3 vanguards, curse you

[pine plover]

[buoyant sigil]

Vanguards are often just comfort yeah. Or if you’re doing a crack idea where you need the dp

[wraith shoal]

arturia s1 if you care about afk slop

[worldly carbon]

I don't wanna post a vulpisfoglia rant so I'm leaving

[pine plover]

nah, even DP eating operator like merchant and mercenary can just live of natural DP generation

[maiden dagger]

I will fund this rant

[buoyant sigil]

Merchantknights niche my dream

[pine plover]

[maiden dagger]

Do you ever enter annihilation and lowkey just do nothing

[buoyant sigil]

Swire2 has been here for 2yrs+ right

[jade herald]

lmao

[slim tusk]

why merchantknights use non merchant smh

[pine plover]

tbf, some annihilations are clearable with 0 vanguard using modern operators

[rocky pilot]

500 pram2 afk runs

[buoyant sigil]

The fact it genuinely works kind of scares me but then again annihilations tend to be piss easy

[pine plover]

or you go SA2 and makes everyone into 0 SP cost

[buoyant sigil]

Like has she had her certshop debut yet

[buoyant sigil]

Matsukiri and defenders the movie

[maiden dagger]

Is matsukiri any good

[pine plover]

swire2 debut was 27 months ago

[wraith shoal]

she did

[undone tree]

is gracebearer useful? says it can deal 1-2k dmg by stacking nervous impairment

[oblique cypress]

What's the slop of the day

[buoyant sigil]

Oh wow!

I might snag her next time she comes around then
Sad I missed lee but I clearly had other problems to worry about

[rocky pilot]

Newbies? Definitely useful

[proven kelp]

I mean realistically you're not triggering Nervous Impairment
She just has raw dmg

[buoyant sigil]

If only I started a merchantknights acc like, a few months ago 💔 stainless swire2 in this orienteering and lee in standard wasn’t too long ago

[oblique cypress]

Why is maafu awake so early

[pine plover]

cuz you smell

[proven kelp]

I'm always early smh

[rocky pilot]

Wait next event rerun is rose salt right?

[oblique cypress]

No I don't grr

[buoyant sigil]

She gets a skin as well

[pine plover]

TW is accelerating even faster, they are getting Exodus of Paleass rerun earlier than us

[rocky pilot]

My I am saving for sui banner kinda homeless

[buoyant sigil]

If she ever has an alt will we call her salter too

[azure pivot]

Gracebearer is not from Laterano right, she’s a nun but from a different faith?

[rocky pilot]

Just call her Spanish salter

[buoyant sigil]

Nun from bolívar that believes in lateran faith

[pine plover]

she was imported

[buoyant sigil]

Specter the Unchained:
-# technically from aegir but it’s not like they can come back

[wraith sentinel]

Gracebearer does have Laterano as a subfaction though.

[rocky pilot]

One nickel for every wrong replied message

[crisp dawn]

Is there a good stronghold protocol guide somewhere, I haven’t had time to play much and I just want to get it over with icl (idc if brain dead strat)

[wraith shoal]

#stronghold-hall pins probably have something

[crisp dawn]

ty

[pine plover]

what braindead strategy are you talking about when it's auto chess game is braindead to begin with

[stray grotto]

is ines 3rd skill her best

2nd skill?

[shadow bay]

u can use s3 but can be quite gimmicky... can favor certain maps though...

but would just stick to s2

[limpid yarrow]

s2 is probably her most comfy skill

[wispy peak]

any reason to do dire simulation?

[wraith sentinel]

It gives a bit of extra score.

[limpid yarrow]

perilous is too easy

[wild cedar]

For fun honestly

[limpid yarrow]

if you're just here for mats perilous might be better

easier to breeze through

[fervent zodiac]

Who wants ledder tonight?

[shadow bay]

ping moderator moment??

[brittle dirge]

My 1 week account progress. I have enough certificates to buy a 6 star. Who should i get?

[rain forge]

Logos/ascalon/mlynar/ray/ulpianus/ines are the only ones worth buying

[brittle dirge]

Will Ines appears in the shop again or moved to kernel?

[shadow bay]

she may but who knows when

and it will take years for her to be moved to kernel

[brittle dirge]

Fair enough, i will wait for her

[shadow bay]

also just a side note

since u have glad raised already might as well give mod2 to that module that turn dmg reduc to seaborn only to all type of dmg

u probably heard ulp + glad being combo or something, but just missed out what she actually need for her to be a good support to ulpi

[brittle dirge]

It's on my list

• Base workers [High Priority]
• Nasti E2 60 > S3M3 > ModX1 [High Priority]
• Zuo Le E2 30
• Mountain E2 30
• Gladiia E2 60 ModX2
• Ulpianus E2 60 S3M3 NoMod
• Zuo Le E2 60 > ModX3 > S3M3
• Mountain E2 60 > S2M3 > ModY1
• Ceobe E2 60 > S2M3 > ModX3
• Tragodia E2 90 > S2M3 (Ticket) > ModX3

[rocky pilot]

I am assuming you want to pull nasti?

[sharp crest]

Can I afford to pull anyone before wank?

[neat acorn]

Perchance

Or keep saving up rahhh

[wintry steppe]

No

[sharp crest]

Really?

[brittle dirge]

Yes, she is the reason i started playing again

[wintry steppe]

Bro doesn't believe

[rocky pilot]

Alright fair enough I am not stopping you

[neat acorn]

You can pull whoever you like

[sharp crest]

I like shu toramaru

[wintry steppe]

He can pull for kernel instead

[sharp crest]

I have 1 kernel ticket can I get shu?

[neat acorn]

Perchance

[storm grove]

kind of like out there question: is there somewhere i can find the assets for Lemuen S3 like the shells and explosions?

[neat acorn]

1/arknillion

[sharp crest]

192k
is nothing ig

Time to save until 300k or something

[silent pendant]

are you john gacha

[neat acorn]

I am John arknights

[sharp crest]

I'm john kernel connoisseur

[silent pendant]

so powerful that he can turn a kernel banner into a sui banner

[buoyant sigil]

jie is hidden in the kernel pool trust

we gotta pull for her

[wise bear]

Guys this is the paid selector(i know shame on me)what do you think is best?i was gonna do ines

[buoyant sigil]

Młynar works as well

[sharp crest]

There is no shame, you helped the game last longer

[wise bear]

Im torn betwen ines mylnar and leizi

[rocky pilot]

Mlynar

[buoyant sigil]

Provided you can play just fine without vanguards I’d recommend mlynar ngl

[wise bear]

Im a newbie so i went purely on tier list

[shadow bay]

i see mlynar peeking

i say pick peeking mlynar

[buoyant sigil]

Leizi2 is not there yet. Has to be 6 months or older

[wheat saddle]

was gonna ask a similar question based off the Krooster here (https://www.krooster.com/u/plush-celery-moose-61zg), which do you guys think would be better to grab from the voucher

[rocky pilot]

Do not
Mention.
That

[wise bear]

Oooppss 😂😂😁

[pine plover]

tierlist isnt applicable for this kind of game

[buoyant sigil]

Tier lists in arknights are faulty, unreliable and good people don’t tend to use them

[sharp crest]

Check roadless in pin or something ig

[shadow bay]

show the voucher instead

so can see who u can pick from unowned

[wintry steppe]

Is mlynar still good without E2?

[buoyant sigil]

Ask here, it’s better

[neat acorn]

Mention a list and you will be thrown

[wise bear]

So mlynar unanimously

[sharp crest]

Everyone agree wisadel is tier 0 tho

[neat acorn]

Honestly a list for Gen content might be possible

[buoyant sigil]

everyone in S?

[wheat saddle]

here, if this helps

[wise bear]

Well since im a newbie i unfortunately have to look up what units are at lest good

[buoyant sigil]

It’s just pointless because gen content is clearable with near-anything

[wintry steppe]

How much the price for this voucher

[buoyant sigil]

Just ask here

[wise bear]

Any good tuber making up to date guides or something?

[jade herald]

need to pick whoever is more cute

[silent pendant]

your best options are
-ines if you want the 17 In 1 Package Vanguard
-mlynar if you just wanna nuke anything in front of you
-mon3tr if you want true damage + insane buffing although you don't exactly have much to buff so

[wise bear]

Thats why i asked cuz i dont really trust tierlist

[buoyant sigil]

Message above that one works
I would advise against mon3 right now though

[neat acorn]

Ecko