help

[ebon plaza]

did you pull on your main?

[rocky pilot]

Ask gnosis for a job

[worldly fern]

yep

[drifting prairie]

it only helps so much unfortunately....

[formal shadow]

your main account sounds like ass

[broken flame]

You can play IS/RA if you have the time and patience for em for mats

[formal shadow]

-# sorry too harsh there

[rocky pilot]

No wonder trag didn’t show up is asser than your second account

[quick jolt]

i think your "main" account should be abandoned for your "second" account

[drifting prairie]

100% cleared already

[formal shadow]

like if your main is level 37, You won't be losing much switching

[broken flame]

All IS?

[vital kelp]

its not ur main account if its worse than ur secondary account

[rocky pilot]

What do you even have in your first account?

[slim tusk]

love and dream

[rocky pilot]

Besides the ulpi and amiya future husband zuo obviously

[worldly fern]

main account / second account

[neat eagle]

Here's my roster
Any easy to follow strat to beat h15-4?

[static glade]

The second one is so much better bro

[worldly fern]

I have trag on my second account btw

[lyric lagoon]

your second is better cause of that

[void thistle]

sonion how do i beat this stage

[vital kelp]

its stacked just find any high end guide

[bitter hornet]

does operator level affect anything in stronghold protocol? like having someone unraised

[wraith sentinel]

It's meant to train game knowledge...

[drifting prairie]

all d15? no, but reward wise i've milked this game for all it has to offer, and i still have never enough LMD

[rocky pilot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwLfVKl-WA

[formal shadow]

just find the ulpi + gladiia afk strat and turn brain off fr

[vivid yew]

Is Ifrit better than Mostima in general?

[broken flame]

real... lmd truly will never be enough 🥀

[rocky pilot]

When in doubt YouTube dot com

[vital kelp]

both are ass

[quaint finch]

not gonna lie first account looks better overall

[formal shadow]

both are extremely situational

[quaint finch]

close tho

[drifting prairie]

maybe but ifrit has more use case than mos

[rocky pilot]

And both have their own jobs to begin with

[worldly fern]

updated team on my second. It hurts because I bought the selector to get mon3tr on my main lol

[quaint finch]

id keep the first one tbh

[drifting prairie]

dawg why are we even starting alts

[rocky pilot]

WHY DID YOU BUY IT TO BEGIN WITH

[wild cedar]

Rip

[steep chasm]

anti-social coop

[rocky pilot]

[wild cedar]

[quaint finch]

mon3tr is great ulpianus is great especially with sash2 you already have built ops and saria is nice to have if youre missing shu

[drifting prairie]

people who ask about rerolling and alts in ak confuse me the most lowkenuinely

[quaint finch]

tragodia is amazing dont get me wrong but like idk if he worth allat

[wraith sentinel]

[vital kelp]

30 dollar is 30 dollar

[formal shadow]

wdym worth allat? He has tragodia on his "second account"

[rocky pilot]

He is literally one of the big three

[pallid basin]

whos this elf red haired sp give girl name

[wild cedar]

Just play both then somehow

[quick jolt]

in gen content tragodia is definitely worth allat

[vital kelp]

what

[stark gulch]

when does the next standard banner usually get announced, is it like a day before the current one ends or is it earlier

[broken flame]

Myrtle?

[quick jolt]

anywhere between a few hours to 5 days before the current one ends lmao

[rocky pilot]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Myrtle

[wild cedar]

That’s not sp that’s dp…

[pallid basin]

yes this

[vital kelp]

sp

sp???

[quaint finch]

("allat" being 2 other top 10 ops in the game he is allat in the sense that he's him)

[formal shadow]

myrtle sp gen frfr

[rocky pilot]

Damn new myrtle alter coming up in cn

[broken flame]

Myrtle Alter printing SP

[quick jolt]

i hope not

[wild cedar]

Skill point vs Deployment point duh

[rocky pilot]

Too bad she got mad at sash2 she wants revenge in a different way

[drifting prairie]

myrtle alt will be the next most op op in the game, calling it

[broken flame]

Time to helidrop myrtle and charge everyone's SP as she loses SP

[rocky pilot]

Plot twist she pulls a silence alt situation

[quick jolt]

socks needs to kill you all

[pallid basin]

can i replace myrtle for elysium for in annihilation

[vital kelp]

flagpipe vs sash2 vs agent vs closure go

[rocky pilot]

Why

[pallid basin]

asking

[drifting prairie]

i would assume so

[vital kelp]

did u all know flagpipe is better than sash2 or closure in dp gen

[formal shadow]

:aintnoway:

[vital kelp]

because flagpipe is like 5 people whereas sash2 and closure is 1 operator

[drifting prairie]

why is closure even in this comparison lol

[quick jolt]

because closure is good at dp gen

[drifting prairie]

[pseudo flume]

Closure can get max dp in a few moments

[formal shadow]

how broken is using multiple vgs to do the job of 1 vg?

[pseudo flume]

Using S2 ya

[drifting prairie]

hmm interesting

[silver smelt]

misleading

[drifting prairie]

inb4 closure brings you to max dp by making your max dp amount -3/j

[broken flame]

Within her range

[silver smelt]

exu s3 sash s2 max pot bag and closure can get you to max dp in a few seconds is more accurate
However this works without closure s2

[leaden yoke]

Doesn't it require for everyone to be deployed within the 3x3 box next to her summon?

[pseudo flume]

https://youtu.be/oDcdZRUvGuQ

[silver smelt]

The summon also can't be placed anywhere

[rocky pilot]

From showcase pretty sure yes

[broken flame]

Map gon be your no. 1 opp

[pseudo flume]

Why the title change

[drifting prairie]

this title is crazy, its funny tho

[lyric lagoon]

requires exu sash2 bagpipe combo though

[quick jolt]

what a fucking title storn

[wild cedar]

It’s more than enough for daily usage anyway

[silver smelt]

its 2026 and we are linking storn and supah in #help

[static imp]

Who's the best to pick for every alliance? For example, du yaoye for yan, etc.

[drifting prairie]

supah gets too much hate

[pseudo flume]

???????

[silver smelt]

which will also get you max dp. without closure.

[lyric lagoon]

exactly

[pseudo flume]

Storn you tweaking or is YT tweaking????

[silver smelt]

A/B titles

[broken flame]

storn and supah just enjoying the publicity with this back and forth as the other AK players lose their marbles

[drifting prairie]

yt is doing this thing wheres theres pultiple titles and thumbnails

[rocky pilot]

I will be blind and can still see that this thumbnail is very misleading

[leaden yoke]

Like yeah, best dp generation but at what cost.

There's a reason why Flagpipe is less used now a day and Closure is essencially Flagpipe on steroids. Using someone like Ines or Salter generate less dp but utility is much higher.

[silver smelt]

The whole premise is misleading anyway... closure isnt even needed for this strat

[quaint finch]

on second thought theyre like almost evenly matched more or less depends on your preference

[rocky pilot]

I mean a hellton of dp but like
4 slots

[pseudo flume]

Its just a showcase, I didn't say it was Practical

[vital kelp]

*Insert myrtle, elysium, saileach image, and silhoutte of bagpipe

THIS COMBO DESTROYS THE DP SYSTEM OF THE GAME

[silver smelt]

You can't just say "closure gets you max dp in a few moments"

[quaint finch]

tragodia is very very strong though

[pseudo flume]

Just use 1 Vanguard or even 2 if you want it to be comfy

[wild cedar]

Ask in #stronghold-hall

[drifting prairie]

[pseudo flume]

Its answering their inquiry

[static glade]

JUST AMIYA IT

[silver smelt]

And if youre using 2 vg id just use ines+ sash2 or ines + closure

[cursive maple]

yep broken and the best unit in game

[drifting prairie]

or just be chad and go no vanguards

[leaden yoke]

You could say that but tittle and thumbnail are very misleading in some cases.

Like me thinking Wang was a bad operator because of a thumnail I saw while I wasn't playing the game

[broken flame]

Elysium Alter in that new Iberia event trust trust

[silver smelt]

Like i said its still misleading

[dense anvil]

wang is bad operator (requires you to deploy mines 😔)

[static glade]

He's still bad, but in a good way

[leaden yoke]

Tower offense ahh operator

[drifting prairie]

wang is a bad operator not because he's bad but simply badly designed imo

[pseudo flume]

He is bad
-# for the Micro and Button Allergic that is

[severe crypt]

Hi Kermit

[dense anvil]

stop clicking my profile

[cursive maple]

bro was about to bait everyone

[lyric lagoon]

at the cost of running closure and bagpipe, that's all

[pseudo flume]

I knew it was Kermit because I check the profile too

[silver smelt]

And basically wasting exu s3

[vital kelp]

what does the chinese sentence in ur profile mean kermit

[lyric lagoon]

it's 5 seconds in, by the time you'd actually need it it'll be up again

[pseudo flume]

This is why synergies are usually impractical

[leaden yoke]

The cost is the lost utility other vanguards bring, assuming that matters

[silver smelt]

what if i want exu s2 like 99.9999% of stages?

[drifting prairie]

be differnt and use s1

[rocky pilot]

Translate it

[silver smelt]

closure brainrot

[lyric lagoon]

better than haruka brainrot

[vital kelp]

do i have to

[quick jolt]

haruka does as advertised. she might just be slightly overrated

[leaden yoke]

Like shes going to be good, but game only wants to you bring like 1 or 2 Vanguard and they keep making limited Vanguard operators, like bro, stop

[rocky pilot]

Is your choice not mine
You wanna learn you learn you don’t wanna don’t

[lyric lagoon]

I didn't mean gameplaywise btw, I meant actually in using a strategy

[quaint finch]

the one time i decide to check ako i run into you 😭

[drifting prairie]

is closure limited?, thought it was kalt alt

[leaden yoke]

oh mb

[rocky pilot]

She’s standard, kal2 is the limited

[drifting prairie]

ok thats what i assumed

[vital kelp]

me no need to learn chinese

[silver smelt]

this is basically "do i use ulpi nearl because sash s2 " again

[drifting prairie]

do i use any ops because ling exists

[leaden yoke]

Just run low cortisol Salter s1

[pseudo flume]

Get used to it Cas, we had to suffer through constant Bagpipe evangelism

[silver smelt]

"we had to suffer" ur the one propagating this bs

[broken flame]

Can't wait for Vulpis 2nd mod

[quick jolt]

it wouldnt make her anymore worth using than she is rn

[cursive maple]

vulpis is my most regretful raise

[broken flame]

Yes but she's my only vanguard like I'm being fr

[drifting prairie]

that cannot be true

[cursive maple]

canta surfer better even

[lyric lagoon]

she's unironically more of a dps than she is a vanguard

[broken flame]

I somehow don't have Ines, Sash2, Bagpipe, and Mumu

[pseudo flume]

I just answered an inquiry not objectively say that its the Wis'adel of Vanguards or ever mentioned it was Practical

Its different

[drifting prairie]

i only use ines but same thing

[silver smelt]

Canta/Surfer/Matsukiri?

[broken flame]

What if I say I also don't have them

[cursive maple]

ines>>>>vulpis

[silver smelt]

????

[drifting prairie]

i mean it is what it is, not that big of a deal

[rocky pilot]

How do you not have matsukiri did you miss out on ato

[severe crypt]

Vg roster of doom and despair

[broken flame]

fr

[rocky pilot]

Oh god

[silver smelt]

just quit arknights

[broken flame]

my vg roster is in the pits of hell so i will be pulling Closure. I had like Pram2 and 4 offrates smfh

[pseudo flume]

This is also the usual because some people decided to take a hiatus before a good event started

[rocky pilot]

It can get worse

[drifting prairie]

why use vanguards when beanstalk exists smh

[cursive maple]

you dont need vg

[young path]

embrace s1m3 myrtle

[glass mural]

Daga kotowaru

[worldly fern]

is worth the 300 pulls for shu or for exia alter in kalters banner?

[severe crypt]

Vg convo of doom and despair

[glass mural]

Anyways, being serious here.

It's never worth it to intentionally gun for spark.

[drifting prairie]

maybe but also note that theres a good banner right after i believe, also depends on your # of pulls currently saved

[rocky pilot]

Here’s one thing in the #help channel
We do not recommend sparking

[ebon plaza]

do we already know what's after kalter?

[lyric lagoon]

shu isn't even in kalter banner as an offrate

[worldly fern]

it's in wangs

[drifting prairie]

shoot im dumb i thought they were talking abt wangs banner

[rocky pilot]

Bad choice of grammar

[severe crypt]

Like en knows what grammar is

[rocky pilot]

Oh right

[drifting prairie]

its just so much easier to not read 🥱

[glass mural]

Kalter is the current latest banner in CN.

[ebon plaza]

yeah that's what i was confused about, was just a typo though

[glass mural]

So no.

[drifting prairie]

nah after kalter comes kroos alter alter trust

[broken flame]

I most of the time just slot in Texas with mod for early discount and yolo the stages with natural dp regen

[rocky pilot]

Only info I got for you is there’s a new talulah sprite

[lyric lagoon]

npc locked for the next 4 years

[broken flame]

Talulah Primal Guard surely

[rocky pilot]

Wait a minute how many sprites did closure had again before her eventual playable op now

[wraith sentinel]

9th anniversary will have Talulah and Nine.

[ebon plaza]

no i think chen doesn't have enough alters so let's lock that in

[vital kelp]

where

[silver smelt]

Ch17 story

[cursive maple]

summer

[drifting prairie]

yeah actually the next 2 banners after kalt sit alt are chen alter 3 and chen alter 4, and theyre all gonna be guards

[vital kelp]

i mean if talulah gets a new banner surely they'll make ch4n right to be the non-lim there right

[broken flame]

The concept of a Chen4. She won't stop till she has every guard archetype

[ebon plaza]

just make a new archetype entirely called chen atp

[broken flame]

Chenknights new niche

[wraith sentinel]

I think three different designs, but the first design has two or three versions with the only difference being the shirt design (for example the google dino or her 'devil' logo).

[drifting prairie]

"is my roster of all chens gonna be able to help me beat is12"

[vital kelp]

one day we gonna heva full 12 op squad of chens

[rocky pilot]

What have I done

[vital kelp]

fire chen water chen we gonna get air chen earth chen wood chen young chen old chen chen from alternative timeline

[civic drum]

Hello, as a new player, what should I buy with my remaining points? Im thinking of buying either lmd or the module stuffs

[drifting prairie]

alternate world its reed getting all this love

[vital kelp]

pots, module block, material forniture

[drifting prairie]

i would reccomend getting asgenne tokens

[vital kelp]

she has more alter than like 95% of the operators in game

[wraith sentinel]

When the event reruns if you buy the Tokens again you can exchange the excess Tokens for Distinction Certificates.

[civic drum]

Even if I cant buy all the pots?

[rocky pilot]

Yes

[drifting prairie]

more pots the better

[civic drum]

Okay got it. Thanks!

[drifting prairie]

yeah ok cause who tf wants like a vendela alt

[vital kelp]

Me

[rocky pilot]

I rather not join in on this

[civic drum]

Also, is it good to use silverash s2 as a tank if I have silverash2? I currently dont have any decent tank

[cerulean mortar]

[vital kelp]

Sure

[silver smelt]

use cuora

[drifting prairie]

OMFG

[rocky pilot]

Show your krooster
But if seriously absolutely really no yes

[silver smelt]

there are better cheaper bricks

[wraith sentinel]

Huh, is that based on that one Ishmael sprite?

[ebon plaza]

honestly i did that for os-s-6 cm

[severe crypt]

Convo of doom and despair

[pseudo lotus]

Is there a point in buying astgenne pots if I’m not gonna raise the unit?

[drifting prairie]

yeah cause who tf stans vendela no offense

[silver smelt]

Certs on rerun

[rocky pilot]

Gold certs

[broken flame]

70 gold certs when the event reruns

[silver smelt]

use cuora for tanking

[quick jolt]

when the event reruns youll get 75 gold certs for basically free if you buy the tokens again

[rocky pilot]

Oh not that
Sssssss

https://www.krooster.com import

[civic drum]

People here said to e2 pram2 first, but I decided to go for silverash2. As a new player who still doesnt deal with very hard stages, its a lot better since I can deploy pram2 at the start

[wraith sentinel]

(Cuora genuinely has very high Defense, and not just for a 4*.)

[rocky pilot]

Surely you at least have spot or someone even if you don’t have cuora (or bubble or gummy)

[worldly fern]

is cuora more tanky than saria?

[wraith sentinel]

Yes.

[quick jolt]

against phys damage yes

[silver smelt]

you dont need e2 for sash to get pram down though..? e1 has s2 already

[vital kelp]

depends, saria heals herself while cuora has more defense on skill

[ebon plaza]

actually about that, how does sash1 s2 work with sash2 talent? is the flat defense added before or after the +65%

[formal shadow]

cuora also heals herself

[quick jolt]

cuora will always be better against very high phys damage, even with saria's healing

[wraith sentinel]

More Defense even off-skill pretty certain.

[quick jolt]

there are things cuora can tank that saria cant outheal

[severe crypt]

Damn it I had a hellagur joke planned

[vital kelp]

lemme check

[drifting prairie]

i love hellagur

[quick jolt]

if you let saria's talent charge you should also let cuora block an enemy

[drifting prairie]

at the same time saria isnt exactly the best choice of a defender or healding defender anyways

[wraith sentinel]

At E2L40 while blocking an enemy.

Though actually I forgot those slugs reduce Defense, oops.
Never mind, she didn't get hit until later, that should be accurate. 933 Defense when not blocking at that level.

[drifting prairie]

coura is goated, but that isnt saying much cause a lot of 4* are really good

[broken flame]

She saved me early on, also have her mod very nice and cheap

[wraith sentinel]

Yep, same here, was my second E2 I think.

[worldly fern]

which ones are great that I can make good use?

[ebon plaza]

cuora pinecone ethan gummy off rip

[gleaming tiger]

How good is silence compared to susuro??

[drifting prairie]

coura, ethan, may, mousse, click, purestream, gravel, rope, gummy, deepcolor, theres a lot

[wraith sentinel]

Pretty good, her Drone on S2 is very versatile especially since the Skill starts charging again once the Drone is deployed and not when it self-destructs.

[ebon plaza]

silence has the drone for 'global' heal but sussuro has ridiculous hps and the restriction isn't all too bad

[quick jolt]

worse at burst healing on-skill, but her drone is essentially global range which can be very nice. and is available more often than sussuro's skill

[robust plank]

Contrail, cuora, ethan are the major e2 upgrades imo

[wraith sentinel]

Personally I'm a big fan of Utage, but rather replaceable.

[gleaming tiger]

Does silence have stronger heals if she heals + her drone?

[quick jolt]

iirc no

[vital kelp]

cuora is 729 def + 38% on mod3

saria is 595 + 30% with 15% dr

[quick jolt]

sussuro s2 is one of the strongest burst healing skills in the game, for some reason

[drifting prairie]

utage's great, i also really love estelle

[robust plank]

gravel, rope and gummy can stay at e1, purestream and deepcolor are good to go if you don't want to raise their higher rarity equivalents

[bright bobcat]

dumb question but is it smarter to beat the level before i keep plowing through more story? or does it matter i just lose out on energy

[broken flame]

They had to limit her to 2 uses. They fear her power

[drifting prairie]

honestly, the 4* class has more usable ops than 5*

[robust plank]

susurro is also very poggers

[wraith sentinel]

729? Mine is 933 without blocking at E2L40 Module Lv. 3.

[quick jolt]

can you reword what you're trying to ask exactly? are you asking if you should read the story as you play, or play first then read after?

[gleaming tiger]

Coura has higher def than saria?!

Should i still build coura if i already have saria?

[quick jolt]

cuora is part of the defender archetype meant for having high defense, and saria is not. so its not that surprising

[formal shadow]

whats the reward of the last karlan r&d node

[drifting prairie]

healing medics dont focus on high defense

[gleaming tiger]

Oh

[robust plank]

cuora and saria are different archetypes after all

[quick jolt]

you will probably not need cuora

[bright bobcat]

basically i havnt beaten a previous story mission and i keep seeing these alerts im just curious if it matters or not cause its making the sanity cost higher i think. is it important in the long run to take care of previous missions before i go further

[drifting prairie]

sarias so mid compared to shu anyways, i love my rice farmer

[wraith sentinel]

Not really, it's only for rewards. Story mode costs 0 and doesn't give Originite Prime.

[quick jolt]

is this chapter 9?

[bright bobcat]

yes

[quick jolt]

essentially chapter 9 introduces a "story" mode that makes the stage much easier but gives 0 rewards. if you want rewards from the stages, play on normal mode

[broken flame]

She missing her alter from the year 1 ogs

[wraith sentinel]

Ifrit too.

[vital kelp]

18% from talent

[quick jolt]

from chapter 10 onwards, itll introduce "adverse" mode that replaces challenge mode, and allows you to clear it to get the rewards for both challenge and normal mode at the same time, for double the sanity cost but half the time

[bright bobcat]

ig i dont understand i am in normal mode not challange mode

[drifting prairie]

ceobe too, unless she's year 2

[fathom nest]

It's clearing both at once, essentially

[quick jolt]

yeah just stick to normal mode and then switch to adverse once you get to ch10 onwards

[bright bobcat]

so its not because i havnt beaten H8-4?

[drifting prairie]

and also hoshi just got her alt so im holding out hope

[quick jolt]

nope, has nothing to do with it. H stages are optional challenges

[bright bobcat]

okie tyyy

[wraith sentinel]

Ah, I see.

[drifting prairie]

no, bagpipe alter will just skip the stage completely and instantly clear it

[broken flame]

Bagpipe Alter Mercenary 6*

[wraith sentinel]

Though on the stat screen with Module my Cuora is at 791 Defense, is yours at max Trust?

[quick jolt]

[broken flame]

now she spends dp to power herself

[quick jolt]

is she blocking an enemy, read the mod trait

[fathom nest]

Please do not engage with derailing comments
@broken flame goes for you too

[wraith sentinel]

I mean outside of combat. In combat when not blocking she's at 933.

[quick jolt]

791 sounds pretty normal to me, her talent effect doesnt kick in until shes deployed i believe

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, I was just wondering where they got 729 Defense as her base stat.

[drifting prairie]

is yours higher or lower?

[wraith sentinel]

791 so higher, I'm assuming the difference is due to Trust (+80 Defense).

[drifting prairie]

sounds about right, mine is at 790 with no module at level 69

[azure pivot]

She gets 75 from max trust, 27 from pot 3, 6% talent e1, 12% at e2

[vital kelp]

prts

oh, i did it wrong
i tried to type 90 for level and it gave me 9, i thought it would autocorrect to 70 but no

792 before 18% from talent 20% from mod trait

[wraith sentinel]

Oh wait, yeah I mixed up Module stats for Trust stats oops.

Either way, very turtle.

[fathom nest]

791 is for max trust and module, at lv40

[vital kelp]

does she only get 1 def from 30 levels? no way

[fathom nest]

She'll have 872 at max level

[fathom nest]

Yep 792 without module

[thorny ravine]

any ra3 and is7 release date or trailer estimates for cn

[fathom nest]

Just teasers from the stream

[quick jolt]

IS will probably release at a similar time to the previous 3 themes but who knows about RA

[rustic pecan]

how many banners between wang and kalter? or is that a no no

[robust thistle]

youre skipping all of them anyways

[rustic pecan]

oh yeah lol.

[lyric lagoon]

"derailing comments" when we were talking about year 1 and 2 operators missing alters

[rustic pecan]

but the way u are so certain (ur 100% right). just want to know how much time i have to grind 200 pulls

[robust thistle]

check /cnbanner in #bot-spam for CN schedule

[rustic pecan]

thx appreciate it

[lyric lagoon]

time frame is about 3 months from each limited event to limited event as usual from wang to kalter

[rustic pecan]

it stops at zima alter

[robust thistle]

yeah?

[drifting prairie]

bellone and zima alter are both skips so

[lyric lagoon]

kalter is the immediate next one after zima alter

[rustic pecan]

does that mean the limited after this is kalter?

[robust thistle]

guess what banner is after zima alter

[formal shadow]

[rustic pecan]

so that gives me 6 months.

[drifting prairie]

usually you can comfortably save up 150 pulls in between each limited banner, assuming no collab banners

[formal shadow]

yeah about

[fathom nest]

Except the conversation had shifted and nothing else about that was being discussed. I would have called it out earlier if I was here to see it

[rustic pecan]

if I dont get kalter by then, im going to crash out and become a monk

[pale tapir]

zimatide is another ascalon situation imo

[drifting prairie]

except ascalon is actually good

[robust thistle]

thats the worst looking abbreviation I've seen after Talter

[formal shadow]

zima isn't that amazing

[formal shadow]

SAsster

[pale tapir]

ascalon isn't that amazing to me either
I like her but she's not gonna blow ur mind

[drifting prairie]

lowk im crashing out bc i dont have ascalon but thats also just me

[formal shadow]

-# there's also the hibiscus alter case but that's warnable

[fathom nest]

Ascalon will be in gold certs much sooner than Zima would be

[drifting prairie]

also zima is only a powercreep of an already bad operator

[broken flame]

Me too, I'm anticipating her entering certs and buying her immediately

[haughty silo]

is there a free sanity stage i can use to complete module skill usage quest?

[robust thistle]

OF stages

[pale tapir]

anything in heart of surging flame

[fathom nest]

Well, not anything

[pale tapir]

sure, don't do ex stages or whatever
do the ones that don't cost sanity

[formal shadow]

basically OF-1. OF-5 if you need an elite enemy

[haughty silo]

that's side story right? what's the name again? sorry i don't really know how to identify stage from the name alone

[formal shadow]

right here

[robust thistle]

[broken flame]

Heart of Surging Flame ....

[haughty silo]

okay sorry for being dumb
appreciate the help, have a nice day guys

[fathom nest]

It's in the Summertime Beats section

[tidal badger]

should I invest muel?

[robust thistle]

if you had to ask, no

[fathom nest]

Wouldn't hurt if you don't have a higher prio op to build

[drifting prairie]

why not, aka yes

[broken flame]

What's Zuo Le mod prio again? ModX3?

[tidal badger]

I kinda dont have anyone else left to build except for horns, mumu, Sankta Mika, eyja(not alter) and all my other operators are already E2 lvl 50 to 60

[robust thistle]

modules, masteries

[broken flame]

thank

[drifting prairie]

just build them all i believe in you

imo sankta is the lowest prio in that list

[gleaming tiger]

What's suzuran best skill?

[fathom nest]

3

[drifting prairie]

or 2 for afk

[pale tapir]

what does suzu s2 do anyway

[robust thistle]

please dont do "s2 for afk" for suzuran

[gleaming tiger]

Oke thx

[drifting prairie]

why not?

[robust thistle]

because its ass, its a glorified earthspirit

[fathom nest]

More targets

[drifting prairie]

[pale tapir]

hrm
elena alt s2 is better afk option right

[robust thistle]

the only spotlight suzu has a fraction of validity for was early SSS

[vital kelp]

Cuz it’s ass, we have modern afk op like trag s1 or ascalon for the work

[drifting prairie]

i dont think i've ever used suzuran s3 tbh

[robust thistle]

then people realized to warmup time takes forever and S3 is just better

[vital kelp]

People realized trag s1 exist

[robust thistle]

now instead of just slowing 3 enemies, you slow half the map

[fathom nest]

Mainly used for the slow and damage buff
It's not really relevant in today's mix of ops

[drifting prairie]

yeah, has some good skins tho

[broken flame]

Pram2 slowing the map and turning the blue box into a defender in 2026

[tidal badger]

Im kinda not using horns anymore, who do yall think I should replace her with

[robust thistle]

you have a lot of mods for homework

[tidal badger]

I'll do mods later

[robust thistle]

you can just leave your list of "who to raise" and just work on your mods and masteries

[broken flame]

You can drop Thorns too

[robust thistle]

like wisadel mod gives her like 50% damage boost

[tidal badger]

bruh my team didnt equip their modules

[formal shadow]

if you build the mod, it doesn't automatically equip in squad menu

[robust thistle]

this is why we use krooster

[tidal badger]

besides the module and masteries yada yada is there anyone that I should replace horns with (since I'm not using her most of the time now)

[robust thistle]

none really

you can slot in whoever and it wouldnt change a thing

[formal shadow]

your op list is kind of unfortunate for others

[broken flame]

Looking like Wang waiting room

[tidal badger]

then it wouldnt be bad if I were to build vina victoria right?

[silent pendant]

if you're never dropping her then just slot in the op with the highest ATK stat for sash2 s2 shenanigans

[robust thistle]

I mean its a waste of resource

[paper swan]

Thoughts on my support choice?

[pale tapir]

see #stronghold-hall pins

[robust thistle]

if you ask here, people would say its a bad thing

because you have better priorities to do

[nimble kite]

It's bad.

[tidal badger]

alright last question, which module is better for thorns, Salt n Sand or Erosion

[robust thistle]

depends on how religiously you use thorns

[tidal badger]

?

[formal shadow]

delta

[leaden yoke]

Any of these modules worth getting? Hoshi alter, Ines, Narantuya, Reed alter, NTR Knight, Pepe X? Assuming I use them

[robust thistle]

hoshialt wants mod3. the rest can stay modless
pepe is fine on mod1

[formal shadow]

tuta mod1 is pretty nice

[broken flame]

You don't have to use Thorns already ngl Skk is right there

[pine plover]

pepe could just sticks with her RA mod and never see light of general content

eternal wood farming for glowstick

[lyric lagoon]

you could remove thorns and horn and still be fine for 99% of content

[drifting prairie]

hoshi, tuya, and i like reed alters

[formal shadow]

reedalter mod is ass

[tidal badger]

but I'd prefer to use both since I like using thorns alot

[robust thistle]

reedic's mod is absolute garbage

[leaden yoke]

one day I will do RA

[formal shadow]

me when my damage medic doesn't get mod to deal more damage 🥀

[robust thistle]

wow you get 10% more self healing, how nice

[drifting prairie]

its so time consuming

[pine plover]

isnt support choice for stronghold fixed anyway?

[formal shadow]

yeah but you have 20 slots to work with so newbies L bozo

[lyric lagoon]

it’s like 8 or 12 hours to get through the main campaign

[robust thistle]

I mean you dont have to go through campaign, just farm glowsticks

[drifting prairie]

it took me liks 1 week to get to max rewards via glowstick farming, granted i wasnt doing it like 24/7

[lyric lagoon]

how much wood did you have per reset

[drifting prairie]

ill check

[pine plover]

also you only farm glowstick only in peaceful mode anyway

[drifting prairie]

1448

[pine plover]

all roads in RA lead to mass and might be illegal wood logging

[lyric lagoon]

how did it take you an entire week

[formal shadow]

it's not illegal if there's no one alive to tell you otherwise

[drifting prairie]

i was so pissed when i found out there was multiple difficulty levels, i did my entire RA on challenge mode

[robust thistle]

its not illegal if you turn back time everytime you do it

[pine plover]

well, on normal mode, the entire sargon is out of your blood

[broken flame]

Doesn't 1 hr or so glowstick reloading already clear it

[lyric lagoon]

it’s fine, they grow back faster than gacha players coming to defend their personal favorites

[drifting prairie]

ahem reedic

[formal shadow]

please help me cear ra

[broken flame]

what, I cleared 2 phases in less than 30 minutes and I don't even have 1k wood

[tidal badger]

what does degenbrecher's delta mod do in cn serv?

[leaden yoke]

Guess Pepe niche is going to be RA till eos

[lyric lagoon]

#cn-lounge pins

[formal shadow]

degen delta 👀

[tidal badger]

is it technically better than module X or nah(nvm delta looks peak)

[steep chasm]

"Challenge" was the original, but people complained it was too hard.

[rocky pilot]

Definitely has better damage against higher defence enemies, but on lower or so is either a damage difference of 12 per slash or lower
Also from the looks is best mod2 and hop off

[drifting prairie]

yeah its set to challenge on default, i just thought it was a hard gammode, didnt realize there were easier difficulties until after clearing reward page 10

[tidal badger]

so not max it to lvl 3?

[rocky pilot]

Only mod3 if you don’t have anything else or just really like her

[proven kelp]

They call it Challenge and not Default so people wouldn't feel bad for not being able to do the bare minimum

[robust thistle]

participation trophy ahh

[void ivy]

What does degen's new module do? The effects i mean

[pine plover]

scroll up

[robust thistle]

isnt there an ingame preview

[proven kelp]

Tldr first time an enemy enter range became disarmed

[pine plover]

if they can read CN, they wont asked here

[robust thistle]

true

[void ivy]

Oh thats cool thx

[lofty vale]

I tried RA for half an hour yesterday and I gave up again

[severe crypt]

Gave up from boredom or gave up from skill issues

[lofty vale]

I didn’t exactly know what was going on and was too bored to figure out

[severe crypt]

Sooooo skill issue

[wary bramble]

I came from endfield and wanna try the game, is the anniversary banner still up? Also is rerolling worth in this game?

[lofty vale]

Anniversary banner is ages away

[lyric lagoon]

skill issue + didn’t read + didn’t pay attention + low attention span

[severe crypt]

I feel like I called this scenario before

[lofty vale]

If your talking about CN anniversary we will get that banner in 6 months

[severe crypt]

If you’re talking about pram banner, I think that’s also gone

[lyric lagoon]

anniversary banner ended 4 months ago

[nimble kite]

Ended like week ago.

[wary bramble]

The silverashe one

[lofty vale]

That one just finished

[severe crypt]

Called it

[wary bramble]

Ohhh

[nimble kite]

Remove the Xs from my posts, I did get it correctly

[broken flame]

Just ended, but the current orienteering banner is decent to start with so it's not a bad time to start. The sooner you start the better.

[wary bramble]

How about lae/surtr is she available in the game rn?

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[severe crypt]

Yes but with big asterisks

[wary bramble]

Ill go for her then

[pine plover]

kernel

[severe crypt]

About that…

[nimble kite]

Hold your horses.

[wary bramble]

Thanks for the help everyone!

[lofty vale]

She’s a permanent character in the kernel banner
Just abit hard to get randomly without rate up

[lyric lagoon]

bro really should’ve joined in 4 months ago when we got 6* selector

[severe crypt]

Wait don’t pull on kernel 🥹

Why do people leave in the middle of their #help session

[broken flame]

Unfortunately if you wanna start good rn you will roll for a chance between 3 men

[wary bramble]

Which character should I roll for?

[lyric lagoon]

pins -> roadless camelot -> banner priority

[lofty vale]

Surtr Kernel rate up was just a few weeks ago actually
You can save your free kernel rolls to get her later again

[wary bramble]

I see I see

[lofty vale]

It still sends me that we have an FGO reference as a document

[lyric lagoon]

it’s all fae’s fault

[proven kelp]

Ehe~

[severe crypt]

[lofty vale]

I still have lotto ptsd to this day

[proven kelp]

Just FGA it smh

[pine plover]

Fate/Genshit Again?

[broken flame]

Surtr summer or new skin or collab

[pine plover]

the 'collab' skin keep returning

[proven kelp]

Summer is better

[lofty vale]

Oh wait

[lofty vale]

@wary bramble Surtr is one of the free 6 stars in the Top operator tag everyone is given
I’m not sure if a new account gets it right now but if you want you can reroll to get her if you want to

[proven kelp]

New account shouldn't have it by now

[lofty vale]

Everyone should still get it for the next 14 days

[proven kelp]

Oh the Top Tag itself

[lofty vale]

Ye

[proven kelp]

High roll for Surtr frfr

[lofty vale]

It’s probably easier than actually rerolling for stuff? How early do we get the recruitment stuff

[void thistle]

you also have to wait tho

recruitment for 6 star is like 8 hour

[lofty vale]

The skip thing is gotten very easily

[pine plover]

this permit allows the player to instantly complete the recruitment of an Operator, no penalty

[formal shadow]

:roswao:

[proven kelp]

You can double your odds by rerolling on kernel too

[pine plover]

or you can just spend 30$ to buy her

[winter lynx]

does Sakiko require that 5 star girl to enable her? I see a lot of Sakiko shorts on yt and I'm wonderin

[formal shadow]

nah she works fine on her own

[winter lynx]

what makes her pairing with the 5 star so strong? sorry if it seems obvious to yall but im still new

[pale tapir]

she just gets access to fever very frequently, plus range extension
it's still not better than just putting wang and wisadel in those slots of course

[lofty vale]

It’s not exactly optimal to use the rest of the crew
Most people just use her and use other meta operators to fill a team

[pale tapir]

her band is quite competent for gen content but at the end of the day they're still 5* ops
ignore nyamu (she's too mentally stable)

[lofty vale]

5 stars are so gimped in this game

Expensive to raise while not being that different from 4 stars

[pine plover]

use them anyway for voiced song during fever

i have the 5★ E2 80 s2m3 mod3

[tepid moon]

What tags do i use the only 6 star i only have is exu

[lofty vale]

Top operator and Medic

[pale tapir]

top medic hope for kelsey or ng

[pine plover]

it's really fun to cause massive lag due to visual effect that was caused by simultaneous skill activation during the fever in Coop gamemode

[slender cloud]

what to buy next? i kinda buy everything i need to upgrade sliverash alter and pram alter, now idk what to buy

[lofty vale]

66% chance of a W

[pine plover]

finish off buying the token

[tepid moon]

Damn so shining is the only one that is kinda ahh?

[pine plover]

on rerun, you can buy the token again and exchange them for 70 good cert if you buy all token now

[tepid moon]

What if i just gamble (i want mudrock)

[pine plover]

most of operators in recruitment are expired

[robust plank]

from PeterYR's event spreadsheet

[lofty vale]

Then you get 6/32 for a W
Or 1/32 for Mudrock

[severe crypt]

Onrate hellagur unto you

[slender cloud]

i am broke, i have 134 sanity, and left 4h event, rn only have 82 so i can't get enuf for 400

[proven kelp]

There are 3 reasons to use them

1st is range extension, whenever Saki's range overlap with another Band Member, she treat their range as hers to further expand her range

2nd is Fever
This is a Mechanic unique to the Ave Band. Each band has their own way of Generating Fever. Once fever is full, any time a Band Member manually use a skill, it cause all Members to use their skill for 20 seconds.
This is especially powerful with Mutsumi, as she can fill the whole gauge basically with 1 skill

So you can cheese out a Saki s3 every time Mutsumi can use her skill, which only have a SP cost of around 20

The 3rd is Music

[lofty vale]

And then you put down Wisadel

[proven kelp]

But Wis isn't cute

[pale tapir]

wrong but I agree with everything else

[severe crypt]

But Wang is

[pine plover]

but can wisadel cover three fourth of the map?

[severe crypt]

But trag is

[pine plover]

there is still 1 day and 6hrs left for the event

[tepid moon]

Okay im gambling

[severe crypt]

But exu is
(I dare you to x this one maaf)

[pine plover]

nah, she is used goods

[vital kelp]

the only sane person in band is crazy

[slender cloud]

oh when i saw one day i thought today is last day so left 6h

[worldly fern]

is susurro worth building over silence or ptilopsis?

[pseudo flume]

Not really unless you don't have 1 of em

[pine plover]

unless your other healer available is lumen or ceylon

[proven kelp]

Lemon already used her

[pine plover]

nah, even before her

[ancient lintel]

their healers cant be that bad 🥀

[worldly fern]

ah I see, thanks

[proven kelp]

Unless you need a 3rd healer, no

Even then, I'd rather wait for Purestream

[broken flame]

is there a chance for the sanrio skins to rerun 🥀

[pseudo flume]

[broken flame]

oh nice we shall hopium

FedEx L2D is kinda doodoo even though I bought it. The colors are hmm

[proven swan]

is pepe good?

[broken flame]

Would y'all consider Mizuki the best out of Namie's children because of the IS mod

[pseudo flume]

Average

[proven swan]

okay

[pine plover]

give me the name random 5star medic to e2

[slender cloud]

wait, rerun? i just realise, rem what do you mean rerun? like event rerun? she is 6 star so idk when can i even get her again for cert

[severe crypt]

Harold

[proven swan]

silence

[reef sparrow]

folinic

[pine plover]

already e2

[pseudo flume]

Events do rerun

[broken flame]

Papyrus

[slender cloud]

honeyberry

[proven swan]

warfarin

[severe crypt]

Harold

[pine plover]

already e2

[lyric lagoon]

papyrus

[pseudo flume]

Nightmare

[reef sparrow]

we go harmasist, folinic

[pine plover]

already e2

[robust plank]

tuye

[vital kelp]

guys is kalter s2 just folinic s2 on steroids

[pine plover]

fuck you, that's not medic

[pine plover]

already e2

[pseudo flume]

But she heals

[severe crypt]

Harold

[broken flame]

Harold + skin

[pseudo flume]

Recorder

[pine plover]

male medic suck ass

[severe crypt]

Nop you must e2 Harold

[lyric lagoon]

papyrus

[pine plover]

joke on you i dont have him

[pseudo flume]

Nowell

[robust plank]

at that point it might be better to just check which 5* medics you're lacking instead lmao

[broken flame]

Papyrus

[robust plank]

Rose Salt

[severe crypt]

Ykw I’m jumping ship to papyrus

[pine plover]

nah, this is just because we are getting medic chip from this month IS monthly

[pseudo flume]

Shiyon is an Ancient Fossil, they are just looking for something to do

[lofty vale]

Thinking if I should make a U turn to invest in Cuora

[broken flame]

Do you need her at your account state

[lofty vale]

Never even raised a defender aside from Saria and Spot

[pine plover]

as if i dont have cuora e2 already

[severe crypt]

Real men have e2 cuora

[pine plover]

[lofty vale]

In all honesty probably not
It feels like even in IS I can use Spot instead of even Gummy/Cuora for the tank ticket

[robust plank]

cuora is the comfiest staller

cheap to max, incredibly bulky and has really good self-sustain without being enmity

[hidden wolf]

How do i lower pram s2 charge time

[robust thistle]

get an sp battery

[pseudo flume]

Mastery 3 or Sp Battery

[lofty vale]

Ptilopsis gaming

[robust thistle]

but honestly if you cant even spare 40s for her to warm up, something is very wrong with your strat

[hidden wolf]

Sp battery like who

[pine plover]

folinic it is,
also fuck every operator who need T3 or T4 orirock to e2

[robust thistle]

ptilo, mostima, stainless, shu, etc etc

[lyric lagoon]

why no papyrus grrrr

[pine plover]

specifically harold

[pseudo flume]

He's married smh

[robust thistle]

even better

[lofty vale]

[pine plover]

the worst i can do is e2 vendela

[pseudo flume]

Do it for ReChord

[pine plover]

i would have done whisperain or mulberry instead if not because 9

[vital kelp]

guys whos the worst 5 star in game

[pseudo flume]

Ayerscarpe

He does nothing, Kit is dysfunctional and Base Skill is garbo

[broken flame]

i really need a rock event 🥀

[lofty vale]

1-7 is a permanent rock event 🙂

[runic willow]

Who's the worst non welfare 6?

[steep chasm]

Czerny 'cause his attack sound makes the game literally unplayable.

But fr it's Tsukinogi ofc

[robust plank]

flamebringer

[pine plover]

his kits encourage multi lanes blocking, which is ass

[broken flame]

no, i wanna farm event currency while farming roccs

[lofty vale]

Not optimal smh

[pseudo flume]

Tsukinogi has a use and was used in 620 CCB2

[calm raptor]

Would replacing saria with ptilopsis here be worth it for better skill cycles?

[pseudo flume]

Carnelian

[robust thistle]

what skill cycle, you have 4 AFK skills

[lofty vale]

[broken flame]

Carnelian is a 6*? Oh right Beeswax is the 5 star... wow

[robust plank]

dreadnought
40 offensive recovery on his s2
eh talent

[pallid basin]

How do i clear guided tour 0

[pine plover]

her Charged gimmick is the first introduced to the game and it's very lackluster and undercooked

[pseudo flume]

Borrow a Maxed Raidian

[calm raptor]

Uhh ig logos and lem (ulpi s3 soon)

[ivory terrace]

thorns ulpi haru pram2

[robust thistle]

between 4 afk skill, if you still need an sp battery something is wrong

[broken flame]

Lemuen has an SP talent no?

[robust thistle]

sp module

[nimble kite]

Sideroca.

[steep chasm]

I'd still take him over Morgan or Flint

[broken flame]

oh right it's in the module

[pseudo flume]

Has a use

[supple harbor]

Skins Will always Rerun right? Im so tempted to buy Lappland skin but Im saving for Wang rn

[ivory terrace]

except any with "from collab" tag

[pseudo flume]

Collab skins is nigh impossible to rerun

[nimble kite]

As Arts source? Yeah, but Mousse exists. And she's better damage-wise.

[ivory terrace]

one with self sustain fwiw

[pseudo flume]

I only consider it the worst if can't be used or base skill is worthless

[pine plover]

but giant milker

[supple harbor]

I mean I doubt it unless they collabed again, but I don't think Lappland Alter skin is a Collab .. I think

[pseudo flume]

Ayerscarpe fits that bill

[ivory terrace]

but but aspd

[nimble kite]

Like can you actually say what is "cannot be used" for your option? Because everyone is usable at some point.

[broken flame]

Frostleaf carry real and true

[pseudo flume]

Nah its just a normal l2d skin that reruns

[nimble kite]

Even her, but... again, you won't actually use her

[supple harbor]

Thats good, I want to save for wang and Suis first

[pseudo flume]

Minosknights 🤫

[pine plover]

Cowknights

[pseudo flume]

I don't think Ayerscarpe is used in Cautusknights either

[steep chasm]

Frostleaf's not so bad if you treat her like an honorary 3 star
...who doesn't even get Dobermann buffs

[pseudo flume]

She has Base Use

[robust plank]

morgan comes online the moment you deploy her, which kinda is the point of helidroping dreadnoughts. haven't tested flint though, although checking her page I like her fast auto + s1 power strike + talent more than flamebringer's

[nimble kite]

🚬

[robust thistle]

pretty sure flint was actually used in *5 clears

[pine plover]

azlingknights

[nimble kite]

just open Pixiv to fulfill your thirst smh

[pine plover]

but pixiv isnt playable

[potent trellis]

Is Shu available to Spark on Wang banner?

[ivory terrace]

ye but why

[potent trellis]

Sweet thanks

[nimble kite]

I guess he gonna spark her no matter what

[potent trellis]

I want Shu because of her minecraft meme haha, gonna have her no matter what

[leaden yoke]

Shu's worth it

[ivory terrace]

pray for offrate

[leaden yoke]

Not actual advice

[silver smelt]

#help btw

sparking is pretty bad but this is probably the most viable cope u can get

[wraith flicker]

completely unbiased opinion i agree

[leaden yoke]

There are a few operators I would go out of my way into sparking for them, Shu and Exusiai alter basically

[pseudo flume]

Its fine as long as it doesn't get into a long tangent or is done while chat is busy but at least the person doing it has had history of helping people and not just troll and have the searched messages just be random gibberish that is spaced apart

[silver smelt]

Oh no i dont care. I just dont like help emulating #arknights

[hexed adder]

Apply mod bro trust

[pseudo flume]

That wouldn't happen tbh due to rules and the regulars know what they can and cannot do

[sleek raptor]

does tin man buff bobbing's DOT elemental infliction

[silver smelt]

again i dont actually care also ew no

[pseudo flume]

How's that related?

[sleek raptor]

he has a buff to DOT damage

[pseudo flume]

Oh Talent 2

[robust thistle]

HG has a very weird definition on what a DoT is

[pseudo flume]

They also have weird categorization

[ivory terrace]

it prob dun interact with elemental injury DoTs the way u think

[leaden yoke]

DoT are thing like Blue poison's talent or Thorns talent

[robust thistle]

or pozy S2

[leaden yoke]

Not elemental inflictions

[ivory terrace]

pozy s2 has dot?

[fiery canopy]

mention some niche unit that has a dot challenge

[robust thistle]

no, pozy S2 is a DoT

[leaden yoke]

Aosta

[pseudo flume]

Attacks 3 times in front when a charge is used

[formal shadow]

yeah the first one is normal iirc but the other 2 hits are coded as a DoT

[leaden yoke]

yeah dosn't get more niche than that

[pseudo flume]

Strange ngl

[formal shadow]

wiki.gg L doesn't have the info but prts does

[leaden yoke]

Weedy S3 also has dot

[formal shadow]

nightmare debuff :roswao:

[grim forum]

for retracing our steps event as a beginner, what do i use the currency for? like what items do i buy

[pseudo flume]

Lmd, Skill Books and Exp

[leaden yoke]

Nightmare was at least used on 1 CC

[ivory terrace]

exp and finite lmd
then mats in finite section

[pine plover]

"Damage over time" refers to damage that is a BUFF type.
-prts.wiki

[grim forum]

thank you

[ancient lintel]

pulls > LMD > exp > skill books > modblocks > mats me thinks

[formal shadow]

※The first attack in the “3 attacks” deals normal physical damage, while the latter two attacks deal physical damage over time.
PRTS finally loaded for me :ya:

[hexed adder]

Lmd and exp nice to progress first (stage+base), pulls also nice sure

[pine plover]

this is how damage are classified
https://prts.wiki/w/伤害分类

[ebon plaza]

also the pots so you get the rerun certs

[grim forum]

what's pots

[ebon plaza]

although those are expensive asf compared to the materials. pots are potentials, for astgenne

[grim forum]

theres only 1 day left for the event and i just started so i dont think id be able to get too much currency

ill grind all day for this though

[sleek raptor]

you get a lot for first clears

[ebon plaza]

damn that's tough

just do your best then

[wicked flume]

i don't want to have to ask here every time i get a unit to ask if its good or not, so is there a tier list that's generally used?

[grim forum]

just got ifrit from top operator recruitment, is it worth building?

[pseudo flume]

No, its useless

We only have IS Specific Tierlists

[ebon plaza]

would rather you ask here every single time, i'm deadass

[wicked flume]

ahh, okay right then

in that case... i just got bagpipe. good no? i love her accent lol

[pseudo flume]

General Tierlists lack the nuance

[ebon plaza]

works as a vanguard, if you love her then go for it. not the best option out there but not trash by any means

[scenic wharf]

good but not great rather than outright bad is what I would say

anyone who calls powercrept top tier ops bad or trash is genuinely delusional

[pseudo flume]

She's just unnecessary unless something is Debuffing sp gen

[wicked flume]

aww, that sucks... i'll just have her as my homescreen assistant

[pseudo flume]

Bagpipe isn't top tier though

[grim forum]

aw i just 50ed her.. ig she'll do for a caster in early game

[ebon plaza]

also what you can do is put your account into this: https://www.krooster.com/data/import, send it back to us, and we can tell you exactly what units to look out for

[wicked flume]

ohh! that seems like a neat tool! i'll try it out, now

so i just search for all my units individually and send it back and it'll look all neat? and that'll help more experienced players help me teambuild?

[pseudo flume]

Just import

[pseudo flume]

Its easier to help than trying to sift through units all over the place in an Image

[robust plank]

bagpipe is good, she allows you to do flagpipe shenanigans (enabling myrtle and other flagbearers to print DP much sooner) and her s3 is a pretty decent burst. This game is easy enough that, if you have a couple laneholders, a couple dps and a source or two of healing, you can do the absolute majority of content that gives rewards

[ebon plaza]

wait wait don't do them one by one just import

[ebon plaza]

flagpipe mentioned you're about to get dogpiled by every regular here

[broken flame]

just go to import and read the disclaimer and login through krooster

[quartz imp]

how long is it between retracing our steps and the next event that uses sanity?

[wild cedar]

I would prefer a stronghold tier list over a general tier list

[pale tapir]

bagpipe is definitely not good 😭
her stats aren't good enough to make s3 effective nowadays
she's comfy to use in gen content but she's been washed many times over

[robust plank]

just because it's unnecessary doesn't mean it's not worth mentioning. Just saying "good/bad" without mentioning what she can and cannot do is as meaningless as a tier list

[urban sleet]

We are not in 2022 anymore
Flagpipe shenanigans my ass where agents have outdone her in hard content and in gen content flagpipe is a waste of squad slots

[robust plank]

even more so if we don't know the state of his account

[steep chasm]

Man, peeps here hate on tiers lists,
then tell newbs their new 6-star is mid af.

Meanwhile I'm looking at Bagpipe thinking damn she's like 2 Vignas in 1

Rule of thumb is that 6-stars are already made to go a step beyond what the game is balanced for - easy mode.
Even at their worst they're normal mode.

[lyric lagoon]

her only use is serving as dp fodder for exu2 sash2 combo or sp shenanigans with flags

[pale tapir]

cool but I'd rather invest in vigna and then get to keep all my resources for some other higher value 6* that will actually help my account
vigna my day 1 goat (she's also washed)

[ebon plaza]

oh yeah ofc, me personally i fw flagpipe but as you can tell, it's not a popular opinion

[lyric lagoon]

cause those very same tierlists say that those new 6 stars are S+ rank when in reality they're mid

[pale tapir]

it's ok to fw flagpipe
I use flagpipe as often as I can
but don't go around telling other people fiona's good because these days she really isn't
at best she's an okay helidrop statstick bonk bonk some enemy retreat
otherwise you just bring her for talent and that's it

[proven kelp]

I like Flagpipe

[sweet blade]

how did they die with the device on

[pale tapir]

these guys explode when they die
also the device has to be in front of your ops to block the wind

[lofty vale]

Flagpipe has been completely outdated now that even Sash2 gives the starting sp gimmick except it’s to everyone except just vanguards

[proven kelp]

Middle explode on death

[pseudo flume]

She's a deadslot

[ancient lintel]

And they pack quite a bit of a punch

[pseudo flume]

She just takes up a slot just for like just getting dp faster

[quartz imp]

you place the device in front of the ops to shield them
since the avalanche points downward the device has to be above the ops

[pseudo flume]

The moment everyone gets placed she becomes worthless

[urban sleet]

I hope I am not gonna get a 'nobody is necessary in gen content' argument

[raven ermine]

nobody is necessary in gen content

[pseudo flume]

Wish granted

[ancient lintel]

nobody is necessary in gen content

[wild cedar]

[urban sleet]

I am locking all of you in my basement

[lofty vale]

For comfy gen content I think sash2 just wins?
Click button, place instant win operator, win

[lyric lagoon]

you don't have to "think", it's not even a fair comparison

[wicked flume]

sorry to take so long! i had an issue with the emails, but it's synced now. how do i export it so that other people can see?

[ebon plaza]

just open the collection tab and then copy paste the url here

[wicked flume]

https://www.krooster.com/u/wise-purple-bird-62ce

oh, cool, it worked!

[raven ermine]

What was the initial question ?

[ebon plaza]

just who to focus on building

[lofty vale]

This was the original question

[urban sleet]

Roadless camelot in pins helps newbies in that aspect, but do expect to visit us frewuently after you are dome with newbie phase

[little pike]

Is she needs module?

[proven kelp]

If you want to know what units are good or worth investing, check this for 6*

[proven kelp]

No

[golden loom]

Should I buy the pro enhancement pack

[sacred cave]

Is archetto worth certing?

[proven kelp]

Unless you're dedicated on a Offensive Comp on IS, no

[lofty vale]

I’m hoping Ines reruns in cert shop soon
Might be overdosing on copium

[wild cedar]

Or want to invest in next sp

[urban sleet]

Maybe towards the second half of the year

[wicked flume]

wow, out of all the units i have to recieve high praise on this site, i didn't expect it to be ascalon. maybe i'm using her wrong?

[raven ermine]

For now, you mostly want to get your team to e1, and to invest in base/baseslaves
Either roadless, or #bot-spam /base and /baseskills for base
kroos alter, pluma, spot, saria, cantabile, sash, ptilo, lappland to e1
Vulpis/sash are kinda bad without e2, schwarz is decent if you lack damage in a new roster, but she's not a priority at all, you can mostly ignore bagpipe

[pale tapir]

ascalon good
great movement speed reduction in small aoe, dot that spreads, good hitcount handler, decent dmg against weak mobs
and works okay at e1 if needed
and she can slow air for some reason

[raven ermine]

Ascalon should already be very good at e1, but module and masteries really improve the stalling part

[lofty vale]

A lot of stuff that can’t be blocked or punishes you for blocking them can get slowed by her while she also does alot of damage
Not blocking also means she survives while they slowly walk through her field

[pallid basin]

Where xan i ger myrtle rn

[formal shadow]

recruit

[raven ermine]

recruitment/gacha

[lofty vale]

Recruitment
Vanguard tag with healing

[quaint valve]

And this "IS" is IS5 specifically right? Ive been replaying IS2 and IS4, not sure chetto worth building for those IS

[wicked flume]

cantabile, eh? she really flew under my raidar. this is the kind of info that really helps me!

[raven ermine]

No, chetto is relatively decent in pretty much all of them
Not the go to draft usually, but the line is very stable i feel like

[pale tapir]

do be aware that myrtle was outclassed 5 years ago and people typically use her because cheap + accessible with decent dp gen (and cute)

[pallid basin]

Yes ik, im jst trynna get her for my low tier team

[quaint valve]

Ooh, cool. I havent explore which offensive recovery works best with chetto, can you suggest some?

[raven ermine]

Yeah, pretty good vanguard, agents are usually good, doing both a somewhat offensive role and dp gen, without really sacrificing much for it
And their redeploy time is shorter than usual too

[raven ermine]

usually it's a core with monster, lemuen/wis/rosmo/tuya, hoshi2, sakiko
There's a few other copable options, like entel s1 for is6, and 4* like sneg/humus/may/caper

[lofty vale]

Solo agent usually won’t be enough dp gen
Elysium can help there just slap him in on E1

[ebon plaza]

hoederer, monst3r, and sakiko just off rip, but any of them will suffice, bonus points if the skills come with more than just damage (think meteor def shred)

[raven ermine]

I mean, usually we recommend fang
A solo agent will be plenty

[lofty vale]

2 vanguards ya
Fang

[pallid basin]

Best time for recruiting 4 stars char?

[ebon plaza]

like only the 4*? or

[lofty vale]

9 hr

[pallid basin]

Jst the 4

[raven ermine]

If you don't have tags it doesnt matter
Anywhere from 7:40 to 9:00

[ebon plaza]

should probably still be 9 right, since you're just weeding out the 1* and 2*

[lofty vale]

7hr 40 lets you get 3-5 stars but was shown to be lower odds of higher rarity

[raven ermine]

If you have tags, 9h

[pallid basin]

Ok

[raven ermine]

Do you have a source for that ?
Pretty sure that's not the case

[static glade]

How rare are 5 and 4* without tags anyways, I set 9 and keep getting 3*

[junior hull]

Huh? Sakiko's an offensive recovery?

[worldly estuary]

Much more rare without senior op tag afaik
4 is common with good tags

[knotty wave]

err no, that was only done because recruitment back then used to cost LMD. Its 7:30 and that was the minimum amount to prevent a tag from failing while also using less lmd as possible. Now it doesnt cost lmd so you can just slap 9 hrs unless youre specifically aiming for a robot drop.

[raven ermine]

Yes, you likely never noticed because she keeps attacking

[raven ermine]

penguin stats have a crowdsourced data set including all tags

[lofty vale]

This is pretty old data though

[raven ermine]

It's 1.2k sample size, it's not nearly accurate enough

[proven kelp]

Almost doubled the sample size difference for 9hr doesn't really convince me that much

[lofty vale]

Gonna be hard to get that much data cus by the time you get enough it’s considered outdated

From what I’ve seen it leans towards 9 hours being better though

[raven ermine]

Why outdated ?
It's not that hard, femn has an almost 6k entries recruit log, and when i did it my numbers were on odds and i set 7:40

[pastel trail]

just started, but event is ending, i got like 1k tokens, whats the priority?

[raven ermine]

lmd > exp > mats you need/skillbooks > mod blocks > t5 mats > t4 mats > welfare tokens/furnitures

[spring aspen]

is there any other welfare operators apart from bryo that is a base slave?

[raven ermine]

ceylon for 80% ws at e0

[opaque remnant]

Tequila for tradeposts (with shamare)

[flint onyx]

Are there any low rarity(non 6*) wandering medic that is worth building for stages like annihilations and so, where borrowing is not recommended but enemy have annoying elemental damage?

[formal shadow]

nah. honeyberry if you really want to have one since her s1 is afk

[nimble kite]

Harold/Honeyberry/Mulberry.

Better wait for Degen Record Restoration, so you can get maxpot Harold and save Red Certs and mats on leveling latter two.

[flint onyx]

It should be around one-two month from now on? Or basically two years from first release?

[fathom nest]

What do you mean by not recommended to borrow?

[sleek raptor]

Afaik anything but chestnut is ok

[fathom nest]

Even if you can't auto the latest stage for the highest amount, Downtown is only 20 orundum less per run, it isn't that big of a difference, and you don't need a Wandering medic for it

[flint onyx]

Basically farming stages

[fathom nest]

The current and permanent stages don't have elemental

Others you don't farm

Even the upcoming annihilation doesn't require elemental healing, it can just be ignored. Only one you might actually want it for is Ashy Marsh, and like I said, you won't be farming that

[past ferry]

Is Stainless any good? Is it good to use him to charge Chongus and Thorns or Penance with Blemishine?

[fathom nest]

Main purpose is to be used as a buffer with s1

[past ferry]

Maby it was a bad decision to put Stainles on banner over Zuo Le

But I thought that I don't really need Zuo Le, I have Hellagur

[lofty vale]

[glossy schooner]

Hellager is Fucking Garbage

[fathom nest]

Zuo Le makes Hellagur look like a literal toddler

[glossy schooner]

Yeah, you basically said, “I don’t want the Good sword I want the one covered in rust*

[past ferry]

Oh. I haven't interacted with challenging content for a long time so didn't really noticed how bad he is

Is Stainless' S1 buff better than Warf's S2?

[fathom nest]

Slightly, by 6%

[glass crest]

Guys will the rebuilding event still open adter the event closed?

[shy lake]

This is my krooster

https://www.krooster.com/u/awesome-indigo-lamb-68dl

Should I pull on the current banner?

[fathom nest]

No

[past ferry]

Does S2 device loses hp all the time or only on skill?

[lunar apex]

nah, but in CN server after a few weeks they just release another one
so global might get the same schedule too (speculation)

[shy lake]

Are there any future banner that I should be saving for?

[fathom nest]

Constant

[fathom nest]

Wang/Ch'en3

[glass crest]

The current uhh kajera- event or what ever it called

[nimble kite]

What?

[glass crest]

The current kjera… whatever it called event

[nimble kite]

Retracing Our Steps?

[wintry steppe]

Nah, save up

[lunar apex]

that one takes a year to rerun

[glass crest]

Yeah the rebuilding event

No I mean the extra rebuilding event

[fathom nest]

Minigames with the events are closed with the event

[grim forum]

i got astgenne the lightchaser, do i buy her token too?

i'm a new player

[glass crest]

Oh… goodbye badges…

[nimble kite]

Don't say Rebuilding, since it makes me think you're talking about Rebuilding a Mandate...

You wait for year for event Rerun.

[fathom nest]

Yes

[past ferry]

Which module is better for Stained?

[quartz imp]

how long is it before the next event that uses sanity?

[grim forum]

is she worth using on my lineup? i'm only on 4-3 main story

[fathom nest]

modX

[fathom nest]

No, it's purely for gold certs in the future

[formal shadow]

we do not know officially

[radiant wyvern]

does he move

[nimble kite]

You will able to get full Medal list on Rerun.

[grim forum]

not sure what gold certs are, but okay.. 250 is quite a lot though - i could buy so much skill books, lmd, and exp for that

[wintry steppe]

You don't really need her for chapter 4 anyway (use support unit if you're struggling )

[fathom nest]

No

[glass crest]

I jist need to complete that minigame to get the badge haha

[grim forum]

so do i spend 250 on her token

it feels like its a heavy investment

And even if i do buy it, do i use the token or save it for later

[glass crest]

Still havent cleared the shop

[fathom nest]

It may not be worth getting the tokens if you're that new. Maybe focus on the lmd/exp/materials

[past ferry]

You want characters more than resources. Green certs are for resources, gold for pulls and chars

[glossy schooner]

You literally were told no, so don’t

[fathom nest]

You still have a full day

[grim forum]

actually i were told yes which is why i asked, but i digress since thats not the point

[wintry steppe]

I would rather buy material and skill if I'm done with LMD/exp than a token, atleast those can be used on building other unit

[fathom nest]

Materials can be gained from other sources. Gold certs are much harder to come by

[ebon plaza]

tokens will turn into pulls though

[fathom nest]

Won't pay off for a year, though

[shy lake]

Okay

[grim forum]

any guide for farming base materials?
like for example which stages to farm on

[fathom nest]

SK stages

[grim forum]

what's SK

[fathom nest]

Base Siege stages in supply missions

[wicked flume]

is saria's first or second skill better? i can see a reason to use both

[timber walrus]

is the chen super alt the next limited?