help

[lofty vale]

I see

[hoary ruin]

I'm saying that random skin pack is a trap, because it's a horrible value AND you don't get to pick which one you get.

[glass mural]

This screenshot clearly is from the future.

[rocky pilot]

Did hellagur get an alter

[vital kelp]

its actually from the past

[lofty vale]

Is it any skin?from that thing

[fresh anvil]

no but some other game i guess

[vital kelp]

random one

[lofty vale]

Like 24 OP skins as well?

[pale tapir]

random skin from a tiny pool of old 15-18 skins

[vital kelp]

no only a limited range of 18 and 15

[hoary ruin]

The random pack? No. It's a set. You can check what's in it.

[lofty vale]

Ah

Well that’s sad

[hoary ruin]

The one we got was mostly swimsuits iirc.

[fresh anvil]

just buy every 15 skin or something

[lofty vale]

If it’s random but we get 24OP skins for cheap that would be cool

[fresh anvil]

(do not)

[rocky pilot]

Too late I already bought la pluma skin

[fresh anvil]

arent those like the ones with animations

[opaque onyx]

But but I want beautiful skins!

[hoary ruin]

21 OP and 24 OP skins have live 2D. 24 has like...swappable images for the OP on the inspect page.

[viral crown]

wht support should i put with beehunter? i wanna limit test lol i finally got her e2 max level and m3

[fresh anvil]

oh wow

[empty ether]

Which skill should I use for pram alter?

[lofty vale]

Skill 2 for most casual content

[dark prism]

S2 for afk, S3 for burst

[hoary ruin]

Yup, they fancy.

[empty ether]

Ty all

[proven kelp]

Huh, what swappable image?

[fresh anvil]

like the amiya horse one

[glass mural]

The Amiya horse one and the Kal'tsit maid ones are special.

[shadow bay]

im looking with atk buffs... like maybe inspirations from bards... or warfarin

afaik brawlers have lower atk but have higher aspd

[hoary ruin]

Ahhh ok

[hidden wolf]

only 1 pull?

[hoary ruin]

What do the 24 OP skins have over the 21 OP then? Alternate skill sound and effects..?

[fresh anvil]

i really just called that amiya horse

[limpid yarrow]

24 op has like animation when you recruit them and whatnot

[rocky pilot]

Is your fault leaving your operators being sad for a long time to begin with

[viral crown]

[lofty vale]

Afk Mountain with Afk Skalter moment

need a new meta just for afk everything

[formal shadow]

mountain skalter afk is a thing of the past

[fresh anvil]

zima alter sweeps

[hidden wolf]

shouldnt ascalon be the int eshop already? she was released this month 2 years ago

[proven kelp]

That's just a Amiya Skin special effect no? Rather than the default effect of a 24 skin

Kal'sit's Remnant skin doesn't have a 2nd image while being a 24 OP

[fresh anvil]

is it? damn

[opaque onyx]

Yes only 1 pull lmao

[formal shadow]

bro putting prediction in the server where predictions are against the rules

[raven ermine]

You shouldn't send predictions/datamining here, unless you want to get shot

[limpid yarrow]

babel was in like october

[boreal osprey]

Can someone tell me what is nasti level 3 platform buff? 60% attack buff?

[limpid yarrow]

not quite a year yet

[limpid yarrow]

60% atk/hp and importantly it stays even if you retreat nasti after

[lofty vale]

What the heck..
Even sharing information is banned
Just learn to take it with salt

[formal shadow]

and even if it was 2 years. The 2 year rule does not mean an exact date, just a baseline on around when a debut happens

[raven ermine]

https://akgcc.github.io/shoplist/
Refer to that if you want to make your own predictions regarding shop ops

[boreal osprey]

But the sp per 6 second doesnt

[hoary ruin]

as far as shoperators go, it's more like they'll appear in the shop at some point after being around for 2 years. They don't show up in shop exactly two years later.

[formal shadow]

unfortunately they are pretty strict on speculation rule

[candid badger]

prediction/data mining is no no

[hoary ruin]

I was looking for that chart earlier. Thanks!

[lofty vale]

[wintry steppe]

Why roschill

[formal shadow]

cause

[wintry steppe]

I forgot this was help channel, not general, no more chibi degen

[raven ermine]

Feel free to ask if you need something, i have a bunch of links in a folder, i may have what you need

[rocky pilot]

How do you realise the difference of the atmosphere between #help and #arknights

[faint merlin]

who are some good 5 stars i can use the level 80 and skill masteries in. im missing a good sniper and or guard class in my squad. also thinking abt ptilopsis as an sp battery for lapalt who i got recently

[fresh anvil]

amount of artworks, no frostleaf guy with the clappy feet in profile

[formal shadow]

one will tell you your waifu is shit :ya:

[lofty vale]

90% of the time #help is full of people here talking about random stuff and nobody actually needing real help

[limpid yarrow]

she doesnt charge sp on s3 anyway

[static glade]

Uhhhh I think #arknights is chill and #help will shit on anything and everything bad tbf no fucks, no sugarcoating, just bad

[wintry steppe]

is beginner headhunt even worth pulling if there are event banner on going

[modest condor]

Any recommendations for what I should go for here?

[formal shadow]

good 5* sniper is what, kroos2 greyy2, maybe skybox later
guards include lapluma tequila gracebearer
wouldn't rec raising ptilo too early dps comes first

[fresh anvil]

check krooster

[raven ermine]

Sad tags, would go for guaranteed phantom

[fresh anvil]

starter tag is unfortunate

[formal shadow]

wuwa player opinion

[static glade]

Whatever

[fresh anvil]

i feel that the people in #help are a lot more passive aggressive than people in #arknights

[reef sparrow]

can I shill April

[lofty vale]

Ptilopsis is not bad
She doesn’t need level 80 but most 5 stars don’t need it either

[formal shadow]

maybe

[hoary ruin]

If you were going to reroll, you'd do that until you got something good and THEN pull until first 6* on the beginner banner.

That one doesn't expire, so you can ignore it for as long as you want.

[faint merlin]

interesting okok is kroos 2 one of the best or should i just hold on until i get tthe others u listed

[lofty vale]

Just use normal Kroos

[reef sparrow]

tbf all AA snipers kinda not worth to e2

[faint merlin]

i am

[wintry steppe]

I have wis (on alt) and im not planning to reroll just yet, should I empty my orundum on beginner banner

[glass mural]

She's flat out one of the best 5 star snipers you could raise.

But also, go raise someone else.

[lofty vale]

Then don’t raise any of those

[raven ermine]

The only ops i would consider using the lv80 voucher/mastery on are IS ops, unless you're very very new

[faint merlin]

hoh ok

[broken flame]

if you have Wisadel that's a keep already

[next thorn]

Which is best silverash2 skill?

[glass mural]

Honestly, at the moment, I'd go all hands on deck for the Silverash Pramanix banner.

[static glade]

2 and 3

[broken flame]

Depends on what you want to do as S2 and S3 both see use. In general, if you are not doing anything specific, you'll probably use S3 more for opening stages and dp generation

[lofty vale]

For 5 stars I would raise:
Ptilopsis
Shamare

pity they don’t need level 80 but the E2 is great

Shamare E2 speeds up your LMD production a lot too if you don’t have a full trading post squad yet and you can get bibeak/tequila to make the op set up

[wintry steppe]

Continue burns my orundum for sa2 or keep my orundum?

[hoary ruin]

mmmmm I'd just keep pulling on SA2/Pram2 banner until you get one or both of the rateups on the limited banner.

Then once SA2 banner goes away, pull till first 6* on beginner. There's still a few things in there that are nice on a new account.

[static glade]

Do you have him yet, how many pulls are you in (if you have him, sure, but it would be wise to save up for Wang too)

[faint merlin]

2 is most cracked for pure dp because of cost reduction but if u need an early game boost with a 3 dp wizzy dale 3 is nice too

[wintry steppe]

alright thanks for your answer

[lofty vale]

@faint merlin

[faint merlin]

hohhhhh lmd? music my ears

[wintry steppe]

I did 12 ish pulls if I'm not wrong (that's where I got wis)

[fresh anvil]

you have like a few more days till the banner ends you sure you wanna keep pulling?

[lofty vale]

Yea Shamare unlocks the op LMD printing set up

[faint merlin]

is shamare in shop? where do i get

[lofty vale]

[static glade]

Sure go for it if you manage to get one of them and maybe stop and save for Wang

[faint merlin]

yo dont judge

[hoary ruin]

Pram2 would honestly be super comfy for new account because she works alright at E1 .

[faint merlin]

im like half new. been like a month

[lofty vale]

You can look around to see if you have some 5 star selector that has Shamare

[reef sparrow]

chat 4 more free pulls right?

[raven ermine]

Ptilopsis is really whatever, she doesn't have any longevity
Shamare/tequila base setup is expensive and not at all a priority
The time needed until the investment pays off is like more than 2 years, so don't, until you have nothing else to do

[lofty vale]

Ptilopsis no longevity?

[formal shadow]

jus e2 teq/spec & sleep

[fresh anvil]

yes

[raven ermine]

Yes ? Where do you use her ?

[lofty vale]

How is a free map wide 0.3sp regen no longevity?

[fresh anvil]

after that is bye bye

[faint merlin]

goes to 3.5 with mod too

[raven ermine]

Because who tf is using a team slot for 30% more sp ?
Also the mod is cope

[lofty vale]

Keep in mind we’re talking about 5 stars too

[hoary ruin]

I believe SP regen is devalued these days because the good ops already have good cycle by default, so they don't need the regen.

[raven ermine]

Well yeah, all the more of a reason to raise only the ones that will see play long term

[broken flame]

You don't really need that unless you're doing something specific in mind

[static glade]

Shes honestly really good, to get Sash2 s2 quicker and get skills online faster like Pram2 s2

[faint merlin]

i dont have shamare

[lofty vale]

I’d do Ptilopsis then

[faint merlin]

kaaaay tyty

ill keep sham in mind tho because lmd is good

[lofty vale]

Shamare is just a good unit overall

The s2 is one of the best 5 star skills too with what it allows you to do

[raven ermine]

Shamare at least will stay relevant, that i can agree on
But again, don't raise her for base if you're new

[glass mural]

:nodnod:

[boreal osprey]

Are we going to get an an non limited 6 star bard eventually?

[lofty vale]

Yea the base thing is just a topping on top of her being a great unit to begin with

[fresh anvil]

Ce:

[raven ermine]

We already have civilight

[limpid yarrow]

ce 😭

[glass mural]

Civilight Eterna.

[boreal osprey]

I mean gacha one,not welfare

[lofty vale]

I’m sure we need like 5 more people to type the same thing

[fresh anvil]

ok what

[raven ermine]

Well then, no clue, stay tuned ig

[rocky pilot]

Sora alter trust

[boreal osprey]

I guess, im still coping for an op that powercreep ptilopsis universal sp regen

[proven kelp]

Shu

[raven ermine]

That already exist, it's shu

[faint merlin]

chat we have civilight

[hoary ruin]

I'm kinda suprised one of the bandknights wasn't a bard tbh.

[boreal osprey]

It is paywalled behind 4 sui siblings 😩

[fresh anvil]

I mean theres others that give more sp to certain kinds of operators

[lofty vale]

Ptilopsis being mapwide is just really chill and without any conditions

[proven kelp]

Just don't be broke

[raven ermine]

It's still better 🫡
And even then, it's kinda cope

[rocky pilot]

I already got 300 pulls ready for sui siblings smh just grind

[glass mural]

:valknaruhodo:

[modest pumice]

Hey I just got back in the game and if I did it right, this is my collection: https://www.krooster.com/u/vinnyxh

Who should I use in a team? The teambuilding is hard for me to understand with all those subclasses

[raven ermine]

shu is mapwide, no conditions, don't even need to be deployed compared to ptilo, and works for both def/off.rec

[modest pumice]

The dragons?! So I came back in time niehehe

[rocky pilot]

Not now though

[fresh anvil]

3
Months

[modest pumice]

Even better

[rocky pilot]

Ahem

[glass mural]

Mylnar is bar none, once he's actually raised, easily the best overall unit you have and a must-run.

[modest pumice]

I legit am stuck doing the main story man I suck

[lofty vale]

Shu is conditional though?
Don’t you need all the siblings

[fresh anvil]

elysium good vanguard

[wintry steppe]

Can anyone remind what are 252

[modest pumice]

My E2 goal is him and Thorns cuz he is hot

[faint merlin]

whats the better mod for thorns

[rocky pilot]

Okay you want my brutally honest answer?

[fresh anvil]

2 trading posts, 5 factories, 2 power?

[raven ermine]

You need 3 more
All of them are better quality slots than ptilo, and you only run it for gen content anyway, which you will break open even if you assume -4 team slots

[hidden wolf]

Who is the girl on the left in fac 4 gold

[hoary ruin]

Build Mlynar. S3M3 Mod3. Canta is fine to E2 if you want, but OK at E1 too tho.

Consider raising some Base slaves. Head to #bot-spam and type /baseskills to see a list of cheap low rarity ops you can raise for your TPs and factories.

[lofty vale]

Anyways why are we recommending Shu squad to a new player

[modest pumice]

I know my skill issue but preach

[dark prism]

Bena/Feater. Not sure which you're referring to, but those are the two on the left

[obtuse berry]

I wanna ask if orienteering share the pity with standard banner or not 🤔🤔

[glass mural]

The sanity efficient thing to do is to spam the current event like it's the best source of sliced bread, LMD, exp, and whatnot there is.

[faint merlin]

wizzydale or lappland alt it

[modest pumice]

Man I ALWAYS decide to reinstall at the last week of a patch, last time was the anni
I have to speedrun everytime

[rocky pilot]

I mean there’s that but
Also probably having to build your other operators, or are you broke since seeing the roster you don’t have much base workers

[modest pumice]

I will get every Lapp possible in the future yeah

[lofty vale]

I hate that it’s like this for almost every event

[modest pumice]

And I am broke

[sweet blade]

is there a exusiai skin rerun soon

[raven ermine]

New player ? They joined a year ago
And it wasn't a recommendation ? They asked for ptilo sp gen powercreep, why would we answer ptilo when she's not the best at it ?

[unkempt pollen]

it’s in the pins

[hidden wolf]

Which one are u stuck at

[lofty vale]

I guess we drifted away from the original topic

[modest pumice]

Ch4 somewhere in the middle, I just stopped trying to do the msq and started to farm, then uninstalled, then download, then un-

[hoary ruin]

There is one every 3 months. The next limited banner after this one is SUPER juicy and you can earn plenty of pulls for it just by playing actively.

[hidden wolf]

Even better than fhis one?

[faint merlin]

ah it was me originally mentioning the sp batt of phtil for my newly aquired lapp alt. im like a month in so half new ig

[fresh anvil]

just focus the events and youll be fine

[median widget]

Which skill do I use for pramanix and silverash?

[hoary ruin]

Yeah. Wang and Chen3 are pretty good.

[fresh anvil]

s2 pram2, s2/3 sa2

[hidden wolf]

3 and 2

[glass mural]

Silverash uses S2 or S3 99% of the time.

[faint merlin]

skill 2 and 3 are good in both tbh

[hidden wolf]

Who are the boosted off rate

[median widget]

Ty

[fresh anvil]

i think the other siblings

[lofty vale]

Shu is good but needing 4 siblings for the sp gen is still a pretty big stretch imo
Imo it’s probably better to build the team ignoring that the 4 sui thing exists and just use good units that fit the stage too

[broken flame]

At least you came back before Wang banner. Best banner in the game so far

[hoary ruin]

I dunno that off the top of my head. But Roadless has info on that in the upcomming banner section.

[fresh anvil]

yu, shu, chongyue?

i might be wrong so forgive my inaccuracy

[faint merlin]

lookin at what u have tho i suggest s3 for silver and s2 for pram but do try out the skills to see what u like

[rocky pilot]

Yeah I rather suggest you to build your base workers to ensure a good income of lmd and exp (especially proviso)
Check /baseskills in #bot-spam to see who you can work with
You can still clear most stages in the story with that comp just if you learn enough, if you ask me how to get better I honestly have no other comments but practice

[tropic schooner]

OP is just to get skins that you like right and not for pulls? i kinda like this wis outfit than her e2 art

[broken flame]

Shu Yu and Chongus

[raven ermine]

The shu talk wasn't meant for you, i know you're new
Someone asked if a 6* bard powercreeping ptilo's sp generation was available, i just answered their question

[proven kelp]

Skalter initial SP better!
Buff to Flagpipe

[lofty vale]

Skalter is self giga battery not party sp
It makes her S3 a straight helidrop

[fresh anvil]

is there someone that gives sp to casters?

[raven ermine]

Flagpipe skalter sa2 ultimate slop

[glass mural]

Mostima.

[broken flame]

Depends on you, some use it for pulls. But it's the only f2p way to get skins so manage it at your discretion. I personally buy some skins with it and some I use on pulls . Do buy the enhancement packs for OP first though if you have em still

[hidden wolf]

Should i e2 this guy for base

[modest pumice]

I need to read to understand team combos etc etc, at least I have an objective to work at

[dark prism]

It's completely subjective. Noi point in saving for a skin if you can't pull the op

[glass mural]

Though this is more passive.

[lofty vale]

People are used to afk S2 Skalter though
Helidrop S3 Skalter is available now with CN module so I wanna see what they can cook up

[fresh anvil]

oh yeah totter

[hoary ruin]

can be used for pulls or skins. If an op you use has a skin you want, you can grab it but keep in mind is also your main source of pulls too.

[faint merlin]

[robust thistle]

It doesnt say e2 to get his base skill so

[tropic schooner]

i already have wis

[fresh anvil]

do you have like any other units

[hidden wolf]

I meant e1

[robust thistle]

No

[tropic schooner]

alright thanks for the advice

[hidden wolf]

Wdym who do i need

[spring aspen]

how many hours for robot tag again?

[prisma oyster]

Is Cantabile good?

[fresh anvil]

ah i thought you were gonna e2 totter but it wasnt e2 so my bad

[proven kelp]

It's not
It's anyone within range

[raven ermine]

3:50

[rose mist]

Hi guys I have a few questions about Pram2.

Is her max module necessary?

Is there a point on deactivating her S2?

[glass mural]

The max that still has 1 star units without being too high and well...

[fresh anvil]

is this a future thing

[dark prism]

Both Cantabile and Surfer are solid as 5* agents

[lofty vale]

You realise you’re relying on google translated skill text
It’s self battery I’m just telling you that

Yes I’ve seen it

[shadow bay]

oh wow skalter selling

she will be good in AH trust me

[lofty vale]

She’s not an AH…

[glass mural]

No, but it's nice to have. The extra snow is nice.

Pretty much never.

[raven ermine]

She can't even be used in AH nomnom

[broken flame]

You can lowprio her mod if you have other more important mods to get atm but do upgrade it eventually, it's nice to have. Can stop at Mod2 if tight on mats.

[hidden wolf]

How do i use ros?

[shadow bay]

who says i want her buffed

i just want her to buff

[fresh anvil]

what, theres gonna be a third module for skadi2 in is where she’s considered abyssal hunter?

[lofty vale]

But yea helidrop S3 Skalter is an actual thing now in CN

[dark prism]

In IS with her IS mod. In normal (not-IS) modes, use S2.

[pale tapir]

you can also just not use her outside of IS

[proven kelp]

Seen or tried?

Like even if it's google TL, i doubt it would be that different when the words are that long to just tell that self gain SP on deployment

[raven ermine]

No, the second module buff her "AH talent" further tho
Issue is, if you play AHknights, you can't bring her, she's not an abyssal hunter

[prisma oyster]

Oh I see, I don't have Surfer but I have Zima

[faint merlin]

if i do have prams mods and skill maxed out should i upgrade her past e2 lvl60 or stay at 60. cuz her atk gets amped by 380%

[lofty vale]

Seen a video
It’s very simple, the “they” at the end is referring to Skalter

[fresh anvil]

i know

[shadow bay]

stay at 60

only max when rich and simp

[proven kelp]

So did they place an operator after she's deployed?

[pale tapir]

just know that the LMD and EXP cost from e2lv60 to e2lv90 is comparable to e0lv1 to e2lv60
and the stat gain is negligible for most ops
that should answer your question

[faint merlin]

okaay

[glass mural]

Zima is not remotely comparable to Surfer or Cantabile in viability.

[broken flame]

Very rare cases where ops wanna go beyond 60 like Tragodia at 88 iirc

[faint merlin]

ty

[hidden wolf]

What stage is this

[fresh anvil]

yu stage

[prisma oyster]

Oh okay, thank you

[hidden wolf]

Has he rerun

[fresh anvil]

the one with the red dragon and black dragon going across the map

[shadow bay]

storisbit tiles would eliminate enemies upon avalanche yeh?

[fresh anvil]

no

[proven kelp]

Can you send the video

[dark prism]

Limited banners don't rerun. His event stages should rerun around the time we get Wang/Chen 3

[glass mural]

Agents do a lot. . They have pretty frontloaded DP gen if you give them something to hit, they hit aerial enemies like drones, they function as pseudo fast redeploys, and their DP gen scales stupidly well with aspd buffs.

[fresh anvil]

massive damage, it takes two avalanches to eliminate most enemies in the standard stages when they hit a wall

[stark gulch]

does IS give any pulls at all

[glass mural]

No.

[fresh anvil]

no

[dark prism]

no

[shadow bay]

oh w8 i should meant allies

[stark gulch]

orz

[shadow bay]

coz u know... u can deploy stuff in their tiles

[neat acorn]

Is6 Ed2 on d10 should be easy?

[limpid yarrow]

is6 in general should be easy

[glass mural]

If you know what you're doing, yes.

[hoary ruin]

If the rocks wake up when someone is on them, that OP gets forced to retreat yeah.

[limpid yarrow]

once your radian is built(follow progression guide in #is-station ) its not too bad to climb higher

[fresh anvil]

ignores shield from mudrock, deals 750 true damage if operator is shifted to a certain direction and 5000(?) true damage if they hit a wall?

[shadow bay]

ahhh i see... neat info tnx

[neat acorn]

So the boss attsckd the person with the most allied insside 8 tiles but whst if there are none?

[limpid yarrow]

if no one is deployed it just waits and doesn't come down
its like artillery iirc

[raven ermine]

There's a prio order
Bottom of the map > left side of the map

[dark prism]

no ops deployed iot won't come down. If everyone is alone, it targets lowest placed going leftward

[faint merlin]

does is give mats to upgrade ppl?

[neat acorn]

So i should judt bait it?

[lofty vale]

Can’t find it right now but you can try looking on Bilibili

[raven ermine]

yes

[pine plover]

the boss use like heat zone for target priority

[glass mural]

That's the idea.

Bait the leg stomp, then jump it.

[fresh anvil]

yeah

[dark prism]

you have to bait to damage it. Most summons count for operator density, so you can use raidian's fish to help direct it

[pine plover]

the main problem isnt even the leg, but the spearhead apparitions

[lofty vale]

If you play on slowmo you can retreat after the exclamation mark turns red for dp

[raven ermine]

smth smth -30 emote

[pine plover]

killing them spawn more shit to handle

[neat acorn]

Prama s2 solves that for me

[lofty vale]

Pram s2 moment

[shadow bay]

dumb question

ops that can atk air enemies can still hit enemies resting on ranged tiles?

tnx

[dark prism]

The left side can be fully leaked if you have 18 or more HP

[lofty vale]

The entire floor turns into ice that also deals dot

[fresh anvil]

Os-7 pretty good ngl

[hoary ruin]

Yeah....those hitcount jerks will end your run if you're not aware of what they do.

Need specific skills like Hoshi2 S2, Ascalon S2 or Ethan to deal with them ><

[pallid creek]

What mod level?

[fresh anvil]

is arturia good vs spearheads?

[hoary ruin]

Yep. The jerkbirds in the event maps are always considered air units, even when 'resting' on a tile.

[dark prism]

lvl 3 is worth for hoshi2

[pallid creek]

Ty

[neat acorn]

Ngl i forgot the feet was gonna spawn and almost died

[slate ridge]

Does not ignore Mudrock
Theres a difference between force deploy and taking damage

[opal moon]

hey i just started 2 days ago and im wondering who i need to select for the kernel locating banner? any reccs?

[fresh anvil]

really? damn.

[broken flame]

any, because don't pull there

[pale tapir]

nobody because you shouldn't be pulling on it or using certs for it
you can ignore it completely
all the ops are bad old or both

[dark prism]

Don't do the locating . Better to keep tossing pulls on the Retracing our Steps banner

[hoary ruin]

Skip. NEVER pull on Kernel 99% of the time.

The banner you want to pull on is the current limited one with Silverash The Reignfrost and Pramanix the Prerita.

[slate ridge]

Most ops dont have their talent or skill active before deployment
Only Yato2 and Hoshi can fully negate if force deployed
While taking damage can be stopped with Chilchuck Nian Mudrock and every other true damage blocker

[lofty vale]

If they started 2 days ago they have some kernel pulls

[pulsar wadi]

what skill do I use

[pale tapir]

if they have kernel ticket this is a bad locating to use it on
wait for a good kernel locating to use the ticket

[dark prism]

S3

[pale tapir]

give her mod2 or ideally mod3 asap btw

[pulsar wadi]

alr thx

[hoary ruin]

Yep, Saki REALLY wants Mod2.

[dark prism]

Should get skill lvl 7 first

[pale tapir]

module level 2
but yeah
sl7 will def help

[opal moon]

thank you! but i have this ten pull kernell tix i was just gnna use those

[opal moon]

thank you!

[hoary ruin]

As RadioStatic just said, the pool for this kernal locating is bad, so just hold on to them for now.

[undone portal]

hi helpers

[dark prism]

Even with the ticket, like someone else said, better to wait for a better pool of choices. Archetto is the only one really worth in the current pool, and she's only good in a very specific game mode

[pale tapir]

hi ori back from arkdachiknights

[opal moon]

oh ty didn't see that, i'll just save it for now then

[undone portal]

thoughts on the next standard banner? dorothy/reedalt honestly looks like a decent reroll location for newbies once limited goes away

[raven ermine]

Reroll sure
Anything else, no
Certs if anything

Is it doro or reed in shop ?

[dark prism]

reed

[broken flame]

Reed

[undone portal]

reedalt cert angle is still real?

[broken flame]

no

[raven ermine]

I mean, not a bad cert, idk if i would use 27 pulls for reedic tho

[hoary ruin]

The upcoming Orienteering will be better IF Trag, Mlynar and ulpi are still on it.

[lofty vale]

@opal moon if you don’t want to wait another 3 months just to use the free kernel tickets
These are the picks I suggest

Waiting for the next one isn’t really that huge either because you have so few tickets the chances of actually getting something you want isn’t that high so you might disappoint yourself after 3 months of waiting

These picks are fine
Feel free to just roll them and either get them or not and go on with your day

[hoary ruin]

I can see Reed2 being comfy to have on a new account though.

[undone portal]

would swap out pramanix1 for lapluma there but this works

[raven ermine]

So that's just beginner banner but worse
Also not including pluma is a crime
And waaifu is better than pram for sure for long term

[lofty vale]

Idk pram is the worst pick there ya

Wish Lappland was in the banner

[dark prism]

hey now, nightmare exists

[undone portal]

waaifus good but isnt really doing much for you unless youre already set on e2ing her
or youre still missing a 2nd executor

[lofty vale]

Worst of the 3 I circled

[raven ermine]

Yeah it won't do anything for a newbie that's for sure
But tbf outside of pluma, all options are shit for a new player, might as well get the good base op

[lofty vale]

I think Warfarin isn’t bad per say

[raven ermine]

Well silence/sussuro completely invalidate her existence

[dark prism]

not even good base slaves in that 5* pool

[raven ermine]

Yes good base slave, waaifu isn't going anywhere anytime soon

[lofty vale]

Dont you need to e2 waaifu

[raven ermine]

You do, that's not for a newbie perspective

[undone portal]

base nerds would set eunectes/flametail/waaifu here but literally all of them ask for e2 (and flametail asks for her polycule)

[pale tapir]

warfie isn't bad yea but all she's really used for is atk buffing lol

[opal moon]

thank you!!!

[lofty vale]

Feel free to choose Lapluma instead of Pramanix for the last 5 star

[raven ermine]

Banner quality is quite low
There's like one IS pick, one RA pick, 4 base options, and garbo

[dim nimbus]

NOOO THEY REMOVE GODNAR ON ORIENT

[undone portal]

so no mlynar

[raven ermine]

Yeah it was kinda expected

[dim nimbus]

Well at least twinkgodia is there

[lofty vale]

New banner is out?

[hoary ruin]

sigh Too bad

[pale tapir]

in #game-news

[undone portal]

global orienteering selection looks remarkably chinese

[crisp loom]

Salter s3, whos atk is being considered when using the 2ndary one

[lavish stratus]

What should I do to complete them?? I’m struggling

[raven ermine]

Ts got downgraded to bait instantly, just wait for his rerun

[formal shadow]

truly a tragedy

[raven ermine]

sash2 atk stat

[dim nimbus]

I mean its pretty aite for new players like me ig, whats the best third slot now since godnar is gone

[glass rune]

where do i find sv 6 im blind

[crisp loom]

So it doesnt mtter if i put it on a 3*

[lofty vale]

Huh

[candid badger]

its should said the stage

[undone portal]

zuo isnt a bad third pick i suppose

[glass rune]

huh

[raven ermine]

idk i'm not going to lie all options are pretty bad
zuo/blaze2 i guess, both are very meh

[glass rune]

im tryna get ulpianus module but i cant find sv 6

[pale tapir]

yea I would say zuole or blazeter

[formal shadow]

losing mlynar tuta nymph for balatro zuole swalter?

[lofty vale]

No the slash works based on the operators attack

[hoary ruin]

Dang it.....guess Imma skip that banner now. Only one besides Trag I need is Zuo ><

[candid badger]

look at under tides stage

[undone portal]

try to strategize around the easier goals and clear them out first to bring in new ones. this will naturally get you progress on the bigger goal
good luck

[lofty vale]

It’s not sash2s attack

[dim nimbus]

Wait lemme search up who r these ops lmao😭

[formal shadow]

-# alternatively go back in time and play Children of Ursus :clueless:

[raven ermine]

S3, not s2

[lofty vale]

Oh s3

[glass rune]

where:(

[pale tapir]

aegir storyline, glimpse of the depths
with isharmla
gives out gladiia as welfare

[lofty vale]

Anyways they knew what they were doing with Ulpianus banner right after Sash2

[undone portal]

trag/zuo/blazealt banner looks yummy for my acc but i cant afford to throw away my chance at nasti

[crisp loom]

Yes the pew pew

[hoary ruin]

They would have gotten more pulls if they left Mlynar on there ><

[lofty vale]

Very flashy 1 shotting
Probably a lot of YouTube reels

[lofty vale]

A lot of people are gonna roll regardless

[glass rune]

i just boughy the 6 star selector just for the s2:p

[raven ermine]

The only thing that matters is position/range/vision

[lofty vale]

You have Ulpianus and Tragodia in the same banner

[pale tapir]

happy for u bro but I would keep it in #arknights or #salt-mines so mods don't bonk u

[glass rune]

i got tragodia

[hoary ruin]

Yep, sadly. Gonna be a lot of people asking if Swire Alt, Stainless and Blaze 2 are worth.

[ancient lintel]

anyone with our light suzuran s3m3?

[raven ermine]

This banner is a decent skip ngl, especially when you consider tragodia's rerun

[undone portal]

Ori#6261
she'll be up momentarily

[glass rune]

im just waiting for level 70 so i can buy that pack with orundum

[lofty vale]

Swire alt isn’t a bad unit honestly
She’s just not .. meta

[glass rune]

im poor rn, i have 10k orundum and a 10 pull

[ancient lintel]

added

[random kestrel]

just say all 3 worth and rage knowing future banner have a better ops :ya:

[lofty vale]

Anyways most people should be saving for wang and whatever is coming in the CN livestream

[undone portal]

swirealts incredibly fun if youre an is nerd but i wouldnt advise making pulling decisions around that

[fresh anvil]

yer fine

[glass rune]

yes my team is no skill, so i dont need anything rn

[raven ermine]

If you spend wisely that is

[hoary ruin]

I still wanna try for Trag ngl. Who is least bad between Stainless and Blaze2?

[glass rune]

i started my account around when exu came out

so i chose the best time to join

[dark prism]

Stainless can be fun. Is he good? Debatable...

[lofty vale]

Honestly I’m also asking myself why am I pulling wang

It’s like installing GameShark cheat codes

And the guy that comes with it isn’t particularly hot either

[drifting prairie]

stainless

[broken flame]

hmm i might do Tragodia Zuo Le Stainless holy man banner

[undone portal]

would go blaze, shes seen actual high end use before
i wont lie stainless is kinda just a win more button 99% of the time

[drifting prairie]

i feel like thats a skip banner....

[random kestrel]

it is skip banner

[fresh anvil]

Skip

[slender temple]

Chen is also cool, and I kinda hope I spook Shu despite the odds

[native cargo]

Whos better healer whisperain or sussuro

[lofty vale]

Does anyone here actually enjoy Wang gameplay from what they’ve seen online

[hoary ruin]

If I decide to pull on the orienteering I'm stuck choosing something offmeta for the 3rd because I already have Ulpi and Swire2.

[formal shadow]

I'd rather use sus

[drifting prairie]

wang's not meant to be enjoyed, hes meant to win stages lollll

[undone portal]

if you really want a therapist specifically, lumens right there

[raven ermine]

Purestream you mean

[formal shadow]

purestream :ya:

[lofty vale]

Players optimise the fun out of games in the purest form

[undone portal]

or purestream!

[random kestrel]

do not mention lumen here

[hoary ruin]

Ehhhh...he costs too much because he's like a 4.5 star in terms of strength.

[robust thistle]

Players when they discover fun is subjective

[cyan owl]

So should I spend 20 rolls to get to 200 and buy like Skadi alter or Rosmontis? (I have about 60k orundum left and 500 OP)

[rocky pilot]

Cannot let the chat know I e2 lumen despite knowing to not do it

[raven ermine]

Just use wang s2 and poof, your "too much meta in my meta" problems went away and the operator is still fun to use

[pale tapir]

easily yes
with that stash another 20 pulls is fine
but don't go over

[robust thistle]

Some people find bombing enemis with 5 mines fun
Some people also consider trimming their lawn with a nail clipper fun

[glass rune]

is purestream good, i have herbon my team i dont have many healers

[drifting prairie]

i mean you're 20 away, i'd go for it esp since you have 100 pulls left

[undone portal]

do you like playing is for fun

[broken flame]

I E2 S3M3 and mod him before Eyjaberry release

[hoary ruin]

If you're already at 180, yeah I'd just finish it off and grab Ros for IS shenangins.

[cyan owl]

Idk might grind IS when I have the time.

[drifting prairie]

literally nothing wrong with lumen, hes pretty useful

[glass rune]

i e2 s2m3 my ulpianus before mod just now as well

[pine plover]

and he still heal worse than sussurro

[pale tapir]

the problem with lumen is that he is expensive to raise and doesn't do a much better job than 4* ops

[undone portal]

rosmo is nice to have i would go for it since youve got plenty of time to save for wang afterwards

[glass rune]

lumen

[raven ermine]

She is, but not the prime choice for a medic if you have access to sussuro/silence/ptilo
Pure kinda want mod3, which is expensive for new players, and investing in medics over damage is bad

[rocky pilot]

The problem with lumen is some people will avoid him because he’s a male

[kind harbor]

Is spalter 200 to spark yet in China or will it be the next anni she’s on?

[karmic flax]

I'm planning to go with Ulpianus, Tragodia, and Blaze2, but I don't have Yu. Should I change Blaze2 to someone else

[drifting prairie]

i agree

[undone portal]

will be with 7th anni once it drops

[glass rune]

i have nightingale and purestream as my healers

[lofty vale]

Do you have Ptilopsis?
I think most people should be able to get her from some free5 star selector

[pale tapir]

I mean yes, but also no that's not the problem with him

[raven ermine]

Let's not beat around the bush, the problem with lumen is that the cost to performance ratio isn't warranted at all

[broken flame]

i raised him especially because he's male healer

[drifting prairie]

i built him purely because he's a male

[rocky pilot]

Except for these people (I am one of them)

[glass rune]

i sont think so, im pretty on and off on the game

[lofty vale]

Oh you have nightingale

[proven kelp]

My condolences

[pine plover]

811.85 hps sussurro s2 (lv70 p1 unmodded)
vs
473.91 hps lumen s3 (lv90 p6 modY3)

[glass rune]

yes

[lofty vale]

Why do you need another healer if you have nightingale exactly

[proven kelp]

Because NG healing without Arts and off skill is ass

[lofty vale]

I’m pretty sure nightingale solves pretty much all the healing needs in the game

[raven ermine]

NG isn't really a good gen content medic

[formal shadow]

people really care about that afk HPS as if they are doing a surtr hospital

[glass rune]

uhh more healing, sometimes i be needing it, the range yk

[tidal pond]

How does one turn red tickets into yellow ones? I've heard of it being done but can't seem to find it

[lofty vale]

I’m gonna be honest I didn’t know gen content needed that strong of a medic aside from arts damage stages

[rocky pilot]

Buying the red cert ops for dupes for gold certs

[drifting prairie]

ehhhh

[neon siren]

U can't, it's just buying the five stars in the red certs shop for gold certs

[proven kelp]

I'd rather use Purestream on most content than NG unless the enemy just have shit tons of Arts dmg

[lament loom]

How relevant is Shu right now and maybe in a future?

[undone portal]

building lumen means dropping 6star build costs to get an afk healer with none of the actual survival utility you would get out of, say, haruka/eyjalt/mon3tr/nightingale/quercus/sussurro/purestream..
its bad. its really bad

[pine plover]

do notice that sussurro need to lower herself so lumen can at least heal on par as her

[pale tapir]

doctor who studied hard to become one vs some random fish guy

[drifting prairie]

relevant

[lofty vale]

Like what exactly are you facing in Gen content that is asking for a crazy medic

[neon siren]

Wait, how much total gold certs do we get by doin that?

[glass rune]

i like purestreams range

[limpid yarrow]

70 for 6 star welfares 35 for 5 stars i think

[drifting prairie]

once you get eyja alter all your problems will be fixed pretty much

[proven kelp]

It doesn't even need to be crazy healing, just a good healing

NG's healing is just ass aside from fighting Arts Dmg

[glass rune]

isnt she infinite, i love inf skills

[formal shadow]

her s1 is

[lofty vale]

Once*?
Like spark her

[raven ermine]

If your team has low damage, you end up putting more pressure on your medics
Obviously you don't need medics if you bring exu2/wis/trag and allat
But if you don't have access to it, you need burst heal sometimes, which ng just can't provide

[glass rune]

nice

[broken flame]

+5 per 5* dupe that's not max pot

[random kestrel]

yeah change it to someone else
i do like blaze but for blaze2 without her enabler its like you ask her to combat while half awake
there is another way to cope her use by using viviana with mod but..... well its cope

[hidden wolf]

Tragodia, ulpanius and who else in the orienteering banner

[formal shadow]

I've pretty much dropped eyjalter s1 for haruka s2 :ya:

[neon siren]

Ahh, alr thx

[broken flame]

Ulpian, Tragodia, Stainless, Blaze2, Zuo Le, Swire2

[raven ermine]

Eyjaberry s3 is better anyway 🫡

[rocky pilot]

26 in total for one 5* and getting all its dupes

[undone portal]

yea eyjalt s1 kinda doesnt see use now that haruka s2 exists. just run s3, global heal is a real niche

[hidden wolf]

I meant who should i pick

[drifting prairie]

haruka is better in every aspect but elemental damage which doesnt really exist yet, but eyja2 s1 is simply more braindead to use for me lol

too lazy to tap on harukas s2 twice

[neon siren]

Ahh that's nice thx

[glass rune]

i think im gonna replace myrtlw with texas, ghe clicking is getting annoying

[lofty vale]

I think overall Ptilopsis is one of the best medics if you want to raise one

[rocky pilot]

No…

[lament loom]

Wdym by elemental dmg not exist?

[formal shadow]

3rd option is just so unfortunate

[slender temple]

Trag Ulpi and Zuo imo

[lofty vale]

Ejya alter… is gonna be really hard to get

[broken flame]

Zuo Le 3rd ig

[drifting prairie]

enemies that do elemental damage to ops dont really exist yet

[lofty vale]

What

[lament loom]

Huh what

[undone portal]

? enemies with elemental damage have been around since under tides

[rocky pilot]

[formal shadow]

I might shill blazealt 3rd pick (though in actuality I wouldn't recommend pull)

[drifting prairie]

is that not eyja's niche?

[lament loom]

We have Dublinn flame casters

[raven ermine]

In gen content you tank it and dgaf about the elem proc
In not gen content, your medics will tend to have an issue keeping up with the elem buildup

[slender temple]

They, infact, does exist

[rocky pilot]

Someone give him a knowledge check

[drifting prairie]

nvm i forgot some stuff lolll

[formal shadow]

Damatzi Cluster:

[lament loom]

I mean thats fair but saying they dont exist is outright incorrect

[proven kelp]

Nearl Light Archers
Dossoless Holiday Casters
Fuckin Under Tides

[undone portal]

tell me you dont play is3 without telling me you dont play is3

[formal shadow]

like 70% of the ch11 enemies

[glass rune]

i hate is in general

[lament loom]

Me when cold debuff, also the casters on boats lol

[raven ermine]

Sure, that's not what i'm saying, that part is completely right

[broken flame]

annihilation have some also

[hidden wolf]

They took away mlynar in orienteering.

[lofty vale]

You know what

[formal shadow]

the IS2 experience as well

[lyric lagoon]

damn they got rid of mlynar and tuta...

[lofty vale]

Best medic is Saria
Just bring more dps

[broken flame]

i wanted Narantuya 😔

[raven ermine]

Cold debuff isn't solved by wandering medics tho

[hoary ruin]

Yep...they murdered the banner ><

[undone portal]

and nymph

[drifting prairie]

sshhhhhh i just dont read

[proven kelp]

I'd rather just use Reedic

[fresh anvil]

tragodia event nervous impairment enemies

[raven ermine]

If you want to go that route say shu at least smh

[lofty vale]

I can’t pull Shu until I become a luck god in 3 months

[fresh anvil]

larper

[shadow bay]

nope i live in 2020... fak those new units

[lament loom]

Ah ye ye

[undone portal]

just use hung :real:

[raven ermine]

Ew ew

[rocky pilot]

Just farm 1000

[broken flame]

Use Bassline

[fresh anvil]

gummy?

[lofty vale]

Do I need to pull Shu that badly when I have Saria
Can’t I just roll for more dps

[pseudo flume]

Nope, I play no gacha. Opinion Invalidated

[errant summit]

Should I pull tragodia

[lament loom]

Was thinking of that defence reduction on water elemental burst from enemy and not like the frozen cold effect.

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah, that, sure

[fresh anvil]

skill 3 breaks certain events (if you know you know)

[pseudo flume]

Nah

[broken flame]

probably more worth for you to wait his rerun, you have Ulpianus already

[fresh anvil]

you are fine

[dark prism]

Probably not worth it.

[safe tundra]

🐘

[raven ermine]

You don't, really

[lament loom]

Smhsmh

[silver smelt]

i mean shu has her use cases that 100% cannot be replaced by saria

[undone portal]

bait banner 😔 and not having an incentive for trag/ulpi selection tanks the actual banner value
wait for wang/ch'3n banner + tragodia rerun

[hoary ruin]

You already have Ulpi so....you're stuck taking someone pretty meh as your 3rd. Skip unless you have A LOT of pulls left over from SA2's banner.

You're looking at a 33% chance for trag, 33% for Zuo and 33% for someone not good.

[dark prism]

Do you even have any pulls after the double P6 from the current limited banner?

[pseudo flume]

Buffs and Teleporting goes brrrr

[raven ermine]

I mean, the same can be said for Saria in that case
Still doesn't make her good

[undone portal]

i dont see saria giving out 4sui

[silver smelt]

no, the point is that saria and shu are incomparable for most cases where you actuallywant to use shu

[lofty vale]

The main point is relying on Saria means you have more rolls to spend on giga dps units

[lofty vale]

[drifting prairie]

shus also provides santruary which is good

[fresh anvil]

what the heck are we talking about here

[proven kelp]

Why would i rely on Saria

I can just use an Actual Medic and use more Guards for Dmg than wasting a Melee slot for Saria

[undone portal]

sparking for shu right now means rolling for wang. youre already dropping pulls on giga dps in this case

[rocky pilot]

I am going out

[mild yacht]

-# Wao, two welfares.

[neat acorn]

I beat ed2 but is there like a time limit to the boss?

[silver smelt]

Im not saying whether to spark shu or not, just saying that having saria isn't a deterrent to pulling Shu.

[proven kelp]

Stationary boss has a Timer

[fresh anvil]

the big sad bear?

[raven ermine]

IS6 ed2

[drifting prairie]

is it a timer or is it x number of stomps

[silver smelt]

its 10 minutes

[fresh anvil]

oh that one

[proven kelp]

Timer

[dark prism]

not sure what that picture has to do with the somewhat rhetorical question I asked, but alright

[neat acorn]

[lofty vale]

I love facing that boss

[drifting prairie]

masochist

[fresh anvil]

feet lover

[undone portal]

highdiff bsl should be classified as a torture method

[raven ermine]

Eh i'd rather face the feet than ed1 alt

[silver smelt]

now do it with ed3 relic!

[pale tapir]

between durnar and heavyrain who is more cost effective to use
I need a little more laneholding than blaze can provide and weedy isn't cutting it

[modest pumice]

Heya is Quercus fine? She is cute and seems alr to use but should I invest on her as a new player?

[lofty vale]

I actually just did ystd

[lament loom]

Statbloat. But then again its everywhere in IS

[silver smelt]

now do it on d15 with raidian and exu banned

[drifting prairie]

why would you do this to yourself 😭

[fresh anvil]

gg

[sacred cave]

Is blaze alter good

[hoary ruin]

Do Blaze2 or Stainless have any use in base?

[silver smelt]

mid

[drifting prairie]

meh

[lofty vale]

Banning Raidian from IS6 is illegal

[pale tapir]

she's not good but she's not terrible

[undone portal]

shes quite good for a 5star in a vacuum, assuming youre willing to drop the full s1m3 mod3 onto her
in practice, the moment your account has haruka is the moment quercus gets benched forever

[dark prism]

She's actual decent as 5*, but I wouldn't prioritize her as a newer player

[random kestrel]

durnar... bro
not relying on her is a good choice
heavyrain obviously more useful (defensively)

[raven ermine]

No, using raidian in IS6 is illegal

[sacred cave]

4 changes is brutal it's made the banner so poo

[fresh anvil]

for upcoming stronghold protocol! good. anywhere else? hell no, maybe specific cc stages or something.

[lament loom]

What does that do again? Afaik isnt that global constant HP% loss?

[modest pumice]

So I will use her then

[lofty vale]

Feels like they designed the entire thing around her

[sacred cave]

I see

[drifting prairie]

2% /second

[silver smelt]

-50% final sp on deploy, 2% hp drain for 60s

[raven ermine]

Which is why you ban it

[errant summit]

Which should I save for next pull?

[lofty vale]

But yea I love baiting dragon feet with Raidian nooks

[pale tapir]

aight sick
her main skill is group camo right?
does she need masteries on it or anything

[fresh anvil]

victoria and yan want blaze alter

[nimble kite]

Powerplant and Workshop skill, are you interested?

[lyric lagoon]

wang

[mild yacht]

-# I was gonna say 'mandatory Ho'ho', but she has is mod.

[hoary ruin]

Wang banner in ~3 months.

[undone portal]

if youre a new player, putting full masteries/module onto her is gonna be a while from now
just invest in sussurro/silence/ptilopsis for now (im hoping you have them)

[fresh anvil]

funny asf

[silver smelt]

banning raidian makes enroute harder but banning exu2 makes ed2 much much harder

[drifting prairie]

wow they really tried to make the stronghold banner as appealing as they could.....

[modest pumice]

I do have these gals ye

[random kestrel]

yes
mine have her mastery and mod1 (dont mod it btw)

[hoary ruin]

workshop...I guess...?

I wanna try for Trag but I'm stuck taking one of those two for my 3rd ><

[lyric lagoon]

they made it dogshit compared to what they had on cn

[pine plover]

the neat part, there will be roster change when it comes to global

[drifting prairie]

what were the cn options?

[silver smelt]

ulpi trag mlynar isnt bad lol what

[lament loom]

Ah yes... gg

[lyric lagoon]

tuta and mlynar were also options (and nymph ig)

[nimble kite]

🥀 lake of Mid.

[modest pumice]

And did they improve the sweep feature or I gaslit myself because istg I had to do these stages 6x

[dark prism]

#help message

[hoary ruin]

That's not what we got. Check #game-news

[fresh anvil]

did uh… lappland/crownslayer event not appear here or something?

[raven ermine]

Highroll hp relics/tongbaos and draft waiifu
I ban both, and did d15ed23 no issue

[lofty vale]

They removed Mlynar

[pale tapir]

can I borrow I really wanna clear EX-5 CM

[drifting prairie]

oh i thought those were the global options

[silver smelt]

i mean u literally said it urself, u gotta highroll hp
with raidian & exu u can shitroll ed2 and win it easy

[random kestrel]

sure
arkhy#4845

[fresh anvil]

mlynar penance standard banner
🗣️ 🔥

[pale tapir]

already sent it

[drifting prairie]

but imo, every banner on this picture but wang is a skip

[random kestrel]

wait a min

[dark prism]

This is why we have rules against posting predictions and stuff

[errant summit]

you mean I Portatori dei Velluti Rerun event

[lofty vale]

Wang bricks your game argument gonna come up soon just like the Chalter argument back then

[fresh anvil]

heah

[silver smelt]

wait this is huge i can pull for swire2

[fresh anvil]

where is that

[silver smelt]

no im deadass shes good for ed2

[safe tundra]

dude you rather off take my pots

[undone portal]

reruns for limited events dont see the banners return

[drifting prairie]

what 😭

[hoary ruin]

There are no decent banners between now and Wang. Orienteering had a chance but it's dead now if you own Trag or Ulpi already.

[raven ermine]

To be completely fair, highrolling in IS6 is not that hard, you tend to end runs with a bazillions relics anyway
Is it really highrolling if that's the avg run

[undone portal]

you mean you didnt cert for her a few months ago?

[drifting prairie]

the only good banner might be that vector breakthrough #2 but i doubt anyone will have pulls left for it

[fresh anvil]

kid named ling node 💔

[raven ermine]

Nuh uh, real ones ban ling abusing too

[silver smelt]

ive lost ed2 runs with +30% hp because no walleye even with waai fu. roes salt helps alot i hear but that's not availble to me yet

[wide knot]

Guys whose the better limited to get at the shop ar 200?

[lofty vale]

They need a new Ling module to make dragons not take up deployment slots

[fresh anvil]

does ling node even

[errant summit]

I dont think so cuz Stronghold swap with Portatior dei event

[pale tapir]

rosmimi

[undone portal]

is there even such a thing as lowrolling in is6. it feels like literally every relic is good

[fresh anvil]

appear in high diff?

[raven ermine]

Never tried rosesalt for ed2 actually, might draft her in snipermed

[wide knot]

Can you prove your answer

[silver smelt]

would you really cert swire2 over mlynar

[pale tapir]

IS module

[lofty vale]

Is Mlynar hot

[lyric lagoon]

more like it’s just dead in general, none of the other options match the power of trag and ulpi to be able to fit a 3rd slot even if they don’t own either trag or ulpi

[fresh anvil]

unc status

[undone portal]

i did because i have him already

[wide knot]

What about nearl? Just want to know

[drifting prairie]

not as hot as some of the other guys

[silver smelt]

is swire2/ulpi/zl banner worth pulling for me

[fresh anvil]

no

[random kestrel]

added
durnar and heavryrain is up

[silver smelt]

hey its 2 hits
swire2 for is6
ulpi for is5 gvg
2/3

[drifting prairie]

[fresh anvil]

do you own a hoederer

[undone portal]

if youre pulling for is you should still aim for wang/ch'3n

[raven ermine]

Zuo is a fraud
Ulpi is a situational draft
Swire is okay i guess

[hoary ruin]

Trag, Ulpi and Zuo would be OK. Zuo is at least usable. Which is more than I can say about the other options on the banner.

[silver smelt]

ok but like wang isnt even top 3 spec draft ? ?

[fresh anvil]

what

[pale tapir]

someone pls explain why NTR knight isharmla and bomb wife are not worth picking over daughtercat

[lofty vale]

Wang isn’t even good in IS?

[pine plover]

CN orienteering
Ulpianus, Tragodia, Nymph, Narantuya, Mlynar, Stainless
Global orienteering
Ulpianus, Tragodia, Blaze2, Zuo Le, Swire2, Stainless

[undone portal]

i love swirealt is mod to death and i cant even say she breaches top5 in this regard
we're competing with exualt/wang/yato/mizuki here

[rocky pilot]

Single uncle
Do it

[lofty vale]

He doesn’t scale with attack speed why would you get Wang in IS

[random kestrel]

next IS should be around wang kit :trust:

[hoary ruin]

Blaze2, Swire2 and Stainless are all Niche, or worse sadly.

[fresh anvil]

skipped they cooked my unc mlynar

[lofty vale]

[rocky pilot]

Continue the nearl bloodline

[silver smelt]

except exualt i have, mizuki and yato are practically impossible to get, wang i will pull regardless
i have like 250 pulls rn

[pine plover]

yeah, this banner is fucked

[proven kelp]

Spam Spike Chest

[abstract mauve]

compared to tequilla he sacrifices some cycle damage and higher dp cost for other good effects. using s2 he acts basically as a liberator where he effectively doesnt attack off-skill. 2.4k dph, 24k total damage on a 36 second cycle. he has a quicker start-up on his first skill. he's aoe instead of multi target. he has aoe sniper range instead of tequilla's small range. he dishes out his damage faster. he provides a similarly bad utility as tequilla off-skill of attacking air enemies and blocking 1 highground drone. he also has a silence niche that can be situationally useful. same as tequilla you can cancel his skill at any point. basically you get all these positives but he has like 75% of tequilla's cycle dps and he costs 2x the dp cost.

i do think mainly his s2 will be used but i have screwed around with s1 a bit but sadly that was after the bug was patched. s1 can be used as a semi consistent silence applicator but ye. this is considering he doesnt have mod yet btw. i think with mod he could potentially be tequilla with positives but that's a bit speculation

[fresh anvil]

they also got rid of narantuya???

[safe tundra]

am i gon risk it for a p6 stainless..

[wide knot]

Actually wanted ntr because of SA2 but doubted my decision and decided to adk for advice

[silver smelt]

who was pulling for her anyway

[hoary ruin]

YEP

[fresh anvil]

holy crap aint she one of the decent units with her skill 1?

[rocky pilot]

Pretty much

[silver smelt]

afk got nuked by pram

[hoary ruin]

Yeah...I WISH the banner still had Tuya.

[pseudo lotus]

After clearing the event shop, is it better to stock up on the unlimited lmd or the other unlimited materials?

[fresh anvil]

i loved her skill 1 man i had fun with that in is3

[lofty vale]

Pram Alter and Skalter to heal the blue box and buff her is peak brain rot

[silver smelt]

tuya not that strong anymore
kinda niche

[undone portal]

narantuya s1 afk angle in a pramalt/zimaalt era seems very washed

[hidden wolf]

Is zuole any good at all

[raven ermine]

Rosmo > skalter > ntrk > w
Rosmo is very good in IS with her module
Skalter is an afk buff bot/medic contraption that doesn't do much in reality
Ntrk is a cope operator, remnant from 4 years ago, her only considerable thing is s2 not taking a deployment slot
It hasn't been relevant since a random CC 4 years ago
W is bad, there's very little to say about her, s2 is afk i guess

[silver smelt]

pretty decent laneholder yes

[pale tapir]

well actually let me ask u this first, will you ever play IS

[lyric lagoon]

stock up enough of loxic kohls and manganese, like bout 50 of each if you can

[safe tundra]

do not claim the lmd. horrible ratio

[random kestrel]

well its narantuya
one of few sniper that worth to mention after wisadel

[undone portal]

starting to feel a little outdated but hes definitely still pretty good

[lofty vale]

Skalter S3 gonna become a helidrop in 6 months

[wide knot]

Yeah

[raven ermine]

I draft tuya here and there in snipermed chetto core, she's pretty decent

[fresh anvil]

typhon dps 799

[dark prism]

Yes, but Musha guards have always been in a weird spot where normal content isn't lethal enough to really make the most of them

[raw wigeon]

maybe some materials if you don't already have a huge pile of those

[raven ermine]

Yep sure, but it won't save her, atk% buffing is cope

[silver smelt]

whether shes helidrop or not the value of buffer in general is debatable

[pseudo lotus]

gotchu

[silver smelt]

buffing can be valuable like in is4 but then the question becomes is she worth 10 hope (no) (heidi)

[lofty vale]

Obv not worth it in IS

[pine plover]

he also has Overload to unleash his remaining s2 5 ammo at once

[silver smelt]

and outside is you can just use another dps lol

[random kestrel]

yeah when heidi already proven for is4

[abstract mauve]

ye that's what i mean when dishes out damage faster and has a 36 second cycle. it's because of how overload works
forgot to add the cancel skill at any point part in

[lofty vale]

It’s probably overkill but in theory you can Skalter buff both the dpses you’re using while also dealing some true damage to the boss

But yea like no content probably needs that much damage

[raven ermine]

That's just a win more button atp
You draft warfa if you want a quick accessible burst of atk

[silver smelt]

the thing with buff in gencontent is that no gencontent boss limits ur damage window like sentinel

[safe tundra]

sentinel the defender or isw-df s*ntinel?

[random kestrel]

nowadays buffer are more narrowed (in term of use case) than used too
so can understand why their value keep dropped

[silver smelt]

isw-df sentinel beach ball

[safe tundra]

everyone hates s*ntinel

[pine plover]

crazelyseon

[pale tapir]

then yeah rosmimi is the strongest pick there, she's actually useful in IS and particularly good in IS5 with flinger shenanigans
I'm tryina clear rn so just ask someone else to explain why NTRK ain't allat

[raven ermine]

Well our dps units keep getting better too, so that's not helping gen content buffers stocks

[waxen otter]

why is she not breaking this rock in her range

[pine plover]

tbf PA boss has similar gimmick with his bodyguards around him

[silver smelt]

take it with a grain of salt bcs i dont play is4 but i hear you can 1 cycle both phase of cresson with warf but then again .. u can 2 cycle without buffer cuz modern ops

[abstract mauve]

not in the adjacent 4 tiles

[random kestrel]

yeah
fuck wang and his go pieces

[lofty vale]

Isn’t it more that they designed units to buff their own stats rather than have high damage multiplier
Specifically to nerf buffers

[nimble kite]

Who?

[silver smelt]

it wasnt even wang

[pine plover]

Can be knocked down by neighboring Operators, dealing True damage on the two tiles it falls on and forming rubble that blocks routes.

[waxen otter]

ty

[nimble kite]

You know that your op need to be like near (in plus-cross range form) this pillar to start hitting?

[random kestrel]

i mean wang is one of prime example why buffer be more forgotten

[abstract mauve]

wang still benefit good from warfarin

[silver smelt]

no i mean in the context of Sentinel, im not referring to anything about Wang

[rocky pilot]

All naran skills are usable in some way right?

[lofty vale]

Actually he’s not
It’s those units with like +300% self attack buff

[waxen otter]

now i do

[sick holly]

What four stars will benefit most from being e2 max leveled? Not talking about modules/masteries, just normal level up

[pine plover]

tbf, later wang can deploy mines on undeployable tiles next to those pillar

[raven ermine]

Well not really
Exu2 benefits really well from buffs, and has a lot of atk scale
Wang is exclusively atk scale too for example
Pram has a good amount of atk scale and low atk multiplier
But like
Why would you use a full team slot, a full deployment slot, and dp on an additional unit, when you can do the same without

[abstract mauve]

s1 and s3 are good. s2 is usable as in it's s3 but worse but it's also her only aoe in her kit
s2 is usable at e1 but ye

[rocky pilot]

One to my m9 flex list…

[random kestrel]

oh yeah lol
fuck go pieces

[silver smelt]

No, buffers have always been fraud from the beginning because you dont have content that forces small damage windows

Units can still have a shit ton of atk scale and yes they benefit from buffs* like Exu2 warf, but the issue is value proposition

[pine plover]

summoner (deepcolor) and liberator (windscoot)
summoner's summoned units has level based on their summoner's level, and by that extension raise their stats
liberator scaling gets better the more base stats it has

[abstract mauve]

best we've had was prts but the damage check being 40k damage only is... yeah

[random kestrel]

maybe its time for HG to do something about it
well they did with nasti and titi but i havent heard good things about them yet

[lofty vale]

Need CC version of PRTS

[silver smelt]

nasti and titi are both giga niche

[nimble kite]

*Windscoot 🥀

[silver smelt]

i dont think buffer being meta is healthy anyway

[abstract mauve]

i dont think wang being meta is healthy

[lofty vale]

They specifically designed away from buffers being good
The best buffer today is probably M3

[silver smelt]

m3 is a true damage unit

[lofty vale]

Best buffer as in a unit that buffs that is good

[coarse tide]

Buffer being meta❌
Make myrtle deal 16k dmg per hit✅

[silver smelt]

i mean you can still do that lol

[lofty vale]

S2 is genuinely a good skill too

[coarse tide]

But it takes like 5 slots‼️

[silver smelt]

"i like pancakes"
"so you hate waffles"
??

[pine plover]

game: add tile ban
wang: fuck you mean tile ban, deploy mines there anyway

[silver smelt]

like what the fuck are u talking about shileds i said nothing about wang lmao

[raven ermine]

how tf do you deal 16k dph with myrtle with only 5 slots

[lofty vale]

56 aspd from m3 is probably one of the least diluted buffs while also being a healer

[coarse tide]

Because game broken‼️

[lofty vale]

She’s genuinely one of the better buffers people don’t often think of cus her s3 is so much damage

[abstract mauve]

wang is good with buffer 👍
therefore you must mention wang. it's how the world works

[silver smelt]

no i think her aspd buff has been shilled alot. too much actually
overrated unit

[pine plover]

two kings sets

[lofty vale]

I literally never seen anyone shill her aspd buff

[abstract mauve]

too many people shill her aspd buff

[proven kelp]

Sounds like you don't go out often
If anything theres barely people that talks about her s3 here

[pale tapir]

hi I'm too many people

[lofty vale]

[silver smelt]

mon3tr induces so much slop discussions you wouldnt believe

[pale tapir]

wait I glaze s3 🥺

[silver smelt]

if i say shes overrated and her main usage is niche true dmg ill get jumped

[random kestrel]

should hang out here more bro
then you will see m3 shill often

[silver smelt]

but 900 hps!!! but the aspd buff!!!

[radiant pelican]

which m3 for salter?

[lofty vale]

I mean it doesn’t help that the entire server repurposed #help to be a place where no one talking actually needs help

[worldly fern]

how much can we save until wang banner ??

[pale tapir]

look one message above u @lofty vale

[lofty vale]

Yall know it’s true

And what do yall do? You react to him to simply check the pins while talking about other stuff

[abstract mauve]

you are supposed to check the pins before asking a question btw

[safe tundra]

:who_me:

[pale tapir]

because instead of typing out the same thing that's in the pins we could just tell them to read it
and they would be less confused

[dark prism]

S2 and S3 are both good

[raven ermine]

Well we provide help when someone ask for help
Pins are more detailed than an answer i have to type 40 times a day

[lofty vale]

But ya #help is basically normal chat is what I mean

People also ask stuff in normal chat
In like literally every server

[silver smelt]

yeah and the normal chat is dogshit

[abstract mauve]

i pray for people that ask for help in normal chat

[safe tundra]

now compare the reliability of the advises

[silver smelt]

why dont u ask some basic questions in #arknights and tell #help they dont need to exist

[random kestrel]

its shifting bro, the old time mods have more control now it changed by make a dedicated sheet that every newbie can learn

[safe tundra]

you got people in hashtag arkn*ghts telling you to raise typhon

[pale tapir]

consider using pull income calc in pins or if u don't like that one https://imivi.github.io/arknights-pulls-calculator/

[silver smelt]

doesnt this have datamined info or

[pale tapir]

does it
I saw it dropped here before idk

[abstract mauve]

if you dont mention it it doesnt

[lofty vale]

just say you don’t know

[livid dawn]

most of it is just guesswork, there used to be some superior datamining but yostar shut it down recently

[pine plover]

that guy who spent 150 pulls on stainless then got second hand disappointment after realizing that he sucks

[silver smelt]

its off by like +- 5 days usually

[lofty vale]

I hope the next Kernel banner has Lappland

[worldly fern]

thank you, i can save like 190 pulls accordingly but has a new player i think i can save more!!

[lofty vale]

I have 15 kernel pulls I need to dump somewhere and I want Lappland

[silver smelt]

the...5 star?

[lofty vale]

Yea

[tardy urchin]

holy shit they murdered this orienteering banner

[pine plover]

just go back to 6 years ago instead

[raven ermine]

Wait for an april pot or smth instead

[lofty vale]

April pot..?

[silver smelt]

ngl ulpi trag zuole is great for a newbie

def not as good as ulpi trag mlynar though

[raven ermine]

Better than lappland at least
And april pots are great

[pseudo flume]

Inb4 they complain Zuo Le can't be healed normally and Ulpianus has no defense 🚬

[limpid yarrow]

insane downscale

[silver smelt]

potentials to spam more smart fridges

[lofty vale]

man i just want lappy

[livid dawn]

no respect for the forbidden swire/blaze/stainless orienteering banner 😔

[lofty vale]

Swire Alter overhated

[livid dawn]

you just need to add gravel there

[silver smelt]

nah swire2 is pretty trash outside is

[pseudo flume]

Don't mention the forbidden Zuo Le Gravel Tech from olden Eras

[raven ermine]

Zuo is kinda washed anyway, especially for gen content
And very investment heavy

[pine plover]

mod3 and m3

[silver smelt]

hes still fine in gen content

[raven ermine]

Gl keeping him at 50% hp, i know i can't

[silver smelt]

oh well 2/3 hits
another trag reroll angle

[lofty vale]

Well clearly the answer is just be lucky

Just win the 66% and roll either Ulpi or Tragodia

[pine plover]

[raven ermine]

The angle is to just wait for the 50% trag rerun

[lofty vale]

Do we have a rough timeline

[raven ermine]

Should be after 7th anni roughly

[rose mist]

Would it be worth pulling for either Ulpi/Trag/Zuo Le on the orienteering banner? Surely there's sufficient time until Wang's banner right

[pine plover]

wait for the next whatever banner during vector breakthrough #2 misery

[silver smelt]

wait for trag rerun

[coarse tide]

Crazy bait banner after limited💀

[tidal badger]

when is ak live again?

[abstract mauve]

low tier bait. no mlynar to guarantee a good unit

[lofty vale]

Just wait 6 months being a normal suggestion is kinda crazy

[pine plover]

[rose mist]

Trag will have a dedicated rerun?

[coarse tide]

But its ulpi and tragodia‼️

[pseudo flume]

Because Arknights is not a speedrun game?

[livid dawn]

if it had a third great unit it would be a good banner, having two great units is bait

[random kestrel]

yes if believe hard enough
but my advice now is wait,
tomorrow is cn 7th anniv livestream
we should have new news

[dark prism]

In about 30 hours from now

[pseudo flume]

People nowadays want to speedrun Arknights

[raven ermine]

Well it's a gacha you have to plan accordingly
And 7th anni/MH collab are likely to be very good

[livid dawn]

is there any news on the MH collab?

[coarse tide]

Same question

[pseudo flume]

Inb4 we have a repeat of Dunmeshi

[dark prism]

Maybe in 30 hours form now, who knows

[pine plover]

if you are giga broke jobless f2p, your only game is waiting (and maybe farm 1-7)

[pseudo flume]

Anyways still pulling even if mid

[livid dawn]

I haven't been paying attention and kinda thought the MH collab just got canceled or something

[lofty vale]

Anyways wait till 10th anniversary so they can release Omega Myrtle where the moment you play her the boss apologises and you win the game

[hoary ruin]

Hmmm....good point. CN 7th anni is very soon.

Man.....WHY did they remove Mlynar from the orienteering?

[vale rampart]

the cn anni banner is the one we get in winter right like exu 2 last year ?

[silver smelt]

the only people who should be pulling this orienteering is new ppl who rerolling

[lofty vale]

Oh ya we can probably wait to see the stream tmr

[native cargo]

wht acc should i main i hve a wis and sash2 starting acc but now i also hve lapland2 and sash2 acc

[raven ermine]

It's a collab, you'll pull anyway, if not, permanent account dmg

[livid dawn]

yostar changes the orienteering banners to inflict as much pain and misery as possible

[pine plover]

pull out a persona 5 collab followed by EoS

[pseudo flume]

I skipped Ash 🤫

[hoary ruin]

The last one we got was REALLY good. I had hope this one would be good too : /

[dark prism]

Wis'adel + SA2 is objectively better

[pseudo flume]

Don't hope that's for IS, just pull on certainty

[tardy urchin]

hg devs realized tragodia is simply too good and just cannot allow a guaranteed good unit off of a banner like this

[slim tusk]

wis>>lapbum

[pine plover]

they could have replace ulpi and trag with ebenholz and hoolheyak too

[raven ermine]

No news for now, we'll likely get updates during 7th anni livestream

[hoary ruin]

lol....sigh

[lofty vale]

Why not bring back Kernel units too just to turn Tragodia into Phantom just for this banner

[pine plover]

that's called kernel locating

[silver smelt]

i would pull on a gnosis mizuki ange locating 🙄

[livid dawn]

here's hoping for good news

[hoary ruin]

Ironically I would have prefered they took trag off the banner. Then it would be a SUPER easy skip for everyone.

[pine plover]

it's not like the never come destiny 2 collab

[coarse tide]

When is leizi2 rerun‼️

[pseudo flume]

So Jaded Man, Sea Femboy and Future Reincarnator

[hoary ruin]

After Trag rerun....so like.....7-8 ish months.

[chrome epoch]

so is this orineteering banenr a fraud banner now

[silver smelt]

yesnt

[pseudo flume]

Bait as it always was

[chrome epoch]

that sux... i even prepared my nickname for it lol

[lofty vale]

66% chance for a good unit is still better than a normal 50% rate up

[coarse heron]

how do we get this lobby design?

[silver smelt]

well u can wait for trag rerun and cert mlyanr in 5 years

[split sphinx]

It's bait, but can be good

[chrome epoch]

its not bait when i dont have ulpi/trag/mlynar in the first place

[pseudo flume]

If you rich enough to guarantee Wang then you can pull

[slim tusk]

there is no mlynar lol

[silver smelt]

i dont think its a terrible banner, its still 2/3 good hits