help

[timber finch]

actually yes
my friend still didnt join my team and i lack 200 only, can get 600 more

[mild yacht]

You can get like 4200 points without it and bastion.

[buoyant sigil]

Also how old is your account btw

[spare tide]

Without both line up exchange and bastion??

[timber finch]

i joined while haruka/hoshi but really started to be active like a month ago sorta idk 😭

[mild yacht]

-# Addition is really that hard, huh?

[buoyant sigil]

Ahh I see

[timber finch]

you probably need to do one of em atleast

[spare tide]

Yeah i can do bastion, probably not the hard one

[timber finch]

im going bad but maybe itll be good someday lol

[buoyant sigil]

Nahh my account is just a little younger but way worse than yours struggling to level things ig

[timber finch]

oh i struggle everywhere and waste a lot, but my 6*s are cool atleast lol
(i need thorns and mountain skin)

[severe crypt]

||you really didnt need to pull that banner sanc||

[rain forge]

what did sanc pull

JO?

[ancient current]

this discussion has become irrelevant

moving on

[rain forge]

What does pram2 s1 do again

I know s2 is afk arts dps and s3 is lure and stuff

[floral light]

slight aoe push with charges

well also inflicts cold and whatever ice thing spreads

[cyan sky]

Which one?

[floral light]

silverash alter banner

[pseudo flume]

Shove enemies

[native cargo]

why does this feel lacking

[pseudo flume]

If you want push use an actual push stroker not some random ass woman who does Ice magic

[raven ermine]

Because e2 sl7 is not a real threshold

[limpid yarrow]

m6 adds a lot more to the cost

[pseudo flume]

Sl7 is just the minimum for useable

[native cargo]

the lmd alone is wrong tho

[pseudo flume]

In some cases Sl4 is the minimum

[rain forge]

actually yeah wtf why is it only 200k lmd

[left tulip]

You have to include the levels

[rain forge]

e0 to e2 alone is 500k

[limpid yarrow]

only promotion costs for the actual e1 e2, not leveling i think

[raven ermine]

You only put the promotions cost there

[pseudo flume]

Add the levels

[rain forge]

[left tulip]

Are masteries very material demanding

[timber finch]

whats that website btw

[floral light]

krooster

[raven ermine]

kinda

[timber finch]

oh.

[left tulip]

I didn’t consider them with my ow krooster ig I’ll find out lol

[buoyant sigil]

Standard banner I do have saki and mon3 as well as now pozy but I don’t know how I’ll manage for sa2
Worse case scenario I don’t get any of the featured ops and start saving for wang instead

[native cargo]

mane

[void ivy]

For 6* operators yeah, but it is much less expensive for 4* and 5*

[buoyant sigil]

Can’t say I’m not happy with pozy since she’s by far one of my favorites in the game but pull instability hurts a bit yk

[cyan sky]

Yeah, and I was asking should I waste 300 pulls on it to spark something broken (if rng will be bad). People said it's better to hold some pulls for later. My question was for how much later? The next 3 months could be just dogshit banners, and I desperately need some OP op since my account is very new...

[rain forge]

Never spark

[toxic marten]

Where is my top operator tag event gone

[rain forge]

just pull for wang when he comes out he’s already top 4

we have 6 months of foresight for CN banners

[floral light]

sparking bad; could get multiple 6*s instead rather than 1 limited

wang banner will be really good for pulls

[rain forge]

also no you don’t need those op ops

you can already clear stuff with only 4* ops

[brazen gulch]

Are standard banners the same across CN and EN or do they swap stuff in and out like with JO

[floral light]

does cc max risk have a 4* only clear

[rain forge]

standard banners are different

[coarse notch]

sash2/pramalt is a meta vg and a meta dps banner
the orienteering between wang and sash2 might be good as well
wang/chen3 in 3 months is utterly broken

[limpid yarrow]

??? no???

[rain forge]

no and that’s irrelevant for this

[floral light]

unlucky

[brazen gulch]

maaaaaan, that's so bad :0 thanks

[coarse notch]

dropping 300 pulls is the opposite of getting a bunch of meta ops, its dumping pulls to get a bunch of dupes

[limpid yarrow]

im sobbing 😭

[native cargo]

after wang limited banner, will there be a possibility of exusia2 offrate for the next cn anniversary

[limpid yarrow]

one ccb4 traffic cop probably blows through the entire 4* roster 😭

[native cargo]

bett

[young glacier]

Lone Trail mini boss, duh

[abstract mauve]

welfare only built diff 💪

[cyan sky]

How many pulls do I need for the Wang banner? Also 300 to guarantee Wang?

[floral light]

ya you probably won't need to go all 300 pulls for wang though

[coarse notch]

same as any limited banner, enter with 150+ to have a good chance of getting both

[young glacier]

With him being 35% rate up and average to get 6* be roughly 35 it will take mega unluck to go all ways till 300, but people go 200 on 50% rate ups so...

[mild yacht]

We’ve had several people have to go to 300 for the limited as well.

[severe crypt]

Yes hi

[grizzled galleon]

If I got 200 pulls rn is it possible to get 100 more? Before silver ash alter banner is over

[abstract mauve]

ye

[grizzled galleon]

Before end of silver ash alter banner?

[coarse notch]

unlikely without using op unless you have 38 pulls ready to be certed

[grizzled galleon]

From the gold cert shop?

[hidden nacelle]

unlikely without op
gold Gert give 38
event give like 40-50

[grizzled galleon]

Ok I got those

I can just farm story for the rest if so

[young glacier]

Evil Yostar release limiteds mid month so we can't gold cert pull top up twice in row at last moment because planning in advance is for people without memory issues

[hidden nacelle]

I swear that's how it happens every limited

[grizzled galleon]

I’m just sad I missed hoshiguma alter banner

[young glacier]

Well, i don't remember that for obvious frontshadowed reason

[coarse notch]

skillfully offrate her next year

[grizzled galleon]

:/

[indigo spoke]

how to get other map than this?

[rain forge]

would going till first 6* on necrass rerun be fine if I have a decent amount of pulls saved up at that point in time for cn 7th anniv banner

[young glacier]

Give me, i am so done with lag swamp

[indigo spoke]

bro i meet it like 5 times in round

[urban sleet]

Asl this when necrass rerun drops you never know what banners we might get

[indigo spoke]

sorry to people i quit mid op choose

[storm meadow]

Have they done the top operator tag thing yet

[frank talon]

No

[indigo spoke]

top tag will be up when sa banner come

[storm meadow]

I will check pins thank u guys

[rain forge]

fair enough

[storm meadow]

Ohhh okay I see thank

[young glacier]

you can group with someone from #icebreaker-lockers and select specific map

[restive sedge]

will joint op banner still be up when sa banner arrives?

[urban sleet]

For few days yes

[coarse notch]

not that it matters

[young glacier]

Will anyone care by time that happens? And standard banner is separated from event banners so they keep happening

[urban sleet]

I have given up on persuading ppl otherwise

[cyan sky]

When do u suggest to stop pulling? Let's say I've got Wisadel on 40. Should I stop? What if I've got Pramanix + Wisadel in 100 pulls, should I stop there?😵‍💫

[urban sleet]

If yoh are a casual you can stop at pram2, but ideally get both

[fathom gale]

how are the gnosis and hoolheyak is modules?

[rain forge]

if you’ll even offrate wisadel

it’s like a 2% chance stacked on top of another 2% chance

[coarse notch]

depends on how many pulls you have and how tryhard you are
on this banner specifically as long as you have the pulls to reasonably go for the next 6 star you should keep pulling until you get both banner operators
if you want to be conservative you stop after pramalt but i really dislike that if you have the pulls to go further

[coarse notch]

gnosis is pretty good, not as good as the major IS mods
hool is a meme its pretty bad tho she has been used in is6

[fathom gale]

unfortunate for the hoolheyak fan(s?)

[floral light]

sucks to be them

[cyan sky]

What if it's just SAsh?

[coarse notch]

keep pulling

[urban sleet]

Sash2 shines in hard content, go get pram2 asw, used in both

[coarse notch]

for most players the target on the banner is pram2

[undone portal]

gnosis is mod is pretty decent, has found real applications in is6 because freeze is strong when its applied that consistently. theres just opportunity cost in drafting him over raidian/tragodia/angelina/haruka, so think carefully
ho'olheyak mod is a funny meme that wants you to leak Once ☝️ to get the optimum use out of it. pair with angelina to levitate and damage everything on the map when you leak

[urban sleet]

Shrimply play sa2+mlynar vgg gnosis good there I was told (yostar pls keep gnosis in kernel relocating)

[sinful sleet]

so not advisable to stop if you manage to pull off rate by some unlucky stroke of fate I would assume

[coarse notch]

of course, this is the case for any banner you're pulling on
when you've decided to pull on a banner you are going for the rate up no matter what

[undone portal]

next relocating pool is already in ingame announcements, gnosis isnt there
magallan isnt there either how am i supposed to rhine out in these conditions

[urban sleet]

You pull for rate-ups not off-rates

[urban sleet]

[rain forge]

Who’s there

[restive sedge]

how good are the two new alters for is btw? do they see play d15+?

[coarse notch]

extremely good

[rain forge]

abysmal dogshit

[coarse notch]

wheres my mizuki bro

[nimble kite]

Idk about highdiff, but they're fair to play in IS, yes.

[worthy sable]

How do I enter the invite code for the new web event?

[undone portal]

incredible drafts, the both of them
pramalt kinda the defacto is6 caster draft now because the only other one who isnt a fraud is like, lappalt

[urban sleet]

where's my bleach

[raven ermine]

Ig i'm certing passenger but wtf
No mizuki no gnosis

[rain forge]

what abt logos

[urban sleet]

I need to bleach my eyes wtf is that

[undone portal]

logos is fraudulent in is6 imho

[restive sedge]

i think logos is pretty hard to play past d15 in is6

[rain forge]

WAIT

[urban sleet]

Sa2 is used for is6
Pram2 asw I was told

[limpid yarrow]

its true logos sucks

[timber finch]

a wonder, are juggernauts good laneholders?

[rain forge]

THERES HOPE WE HAVE ARCHETTO 🥹

[tidal vale]

do i ever pull on this again

[limpid yarrow]

logos the 🐛🐛🐛
wiggling worm

[undone portal]

they start getting statchecked by harder stages so not really

[urban sleet]

At one point yes, now both mudrock and penance are washed

[coarse notch]

isnt hool an actual caster draft in is6 anyways

[limpid yarrow]

yes

[undone portal]

i guess 🥹

[coarse notch]

secondary to pramalt i suppose?

[limpid yarrow]

man i should not have spent the 258 on pullsi lowk need archetto

[timber finch]

aw i thought of trying ceobe, kalstit or mudrock if i could in next top op

[undone portal]

my heart tells me to cert pallas

[limpid yarrow]

wonder if i can get a good amount of golds from pulls

[rain forge]

ceobe and kaltsit are good mudrock is not

[coarse notch]

bro is an IS player and doesnt have archetto
your execution is scheduled for tomorrow in isc

[timber finch]

sad

[sinful sleet]

do not make the same mistake I did

[urban sleet]

Ceobe was an option in high risk ccb before but hasnt seen recent usage
Kal is good for IS

[rain forge]

oh yeah how hard are the event stages compared to ato and stuff

[restive sedge]

shes a solution for that 1 stage with lots of cars so i think so too

[raven ermine]

Usually it's 1:1, a bit more than that in my experience
You can also spark the 5* if you need more

[native cargo]

wht skill to mastery for sash2

[limpid yarrow]

its looking bleak

[rain forge]

imo s3

[timber finch]

tbh i only want kalstit to have a medic im almost certain wont be oneshotted

[undone portal]

ive mostly heard retracing our steps is more mechanically interesting than it is actually difficult. sounds fun

[urban sleet]

Oh well ig I won't be scrambling for gold certs to spark hoedere since no one competing for them

[limpid yarrow]

oh ya passenger for stronghold protocol

[raven ermine]

And for RA

[coarse notch]

s2 is his best skill but the gains are abysmal dogshit
s3 has actual mastery gains but is his secondary skill
take your pick

[urban sleet]

Kal isnt used for healing

[rain forge]

Cheeto worth the gold certs or nah

[undone portal]

i wait patiently for magallan/zuo le

[native cargo]

ohh

[timber finch]

i mean isnt she a healer with a summon?

[urban sleet]

Ye actually whats the chetto conp for IS

[rain forge]

She prioritises mon3 and herself so don’t expect her to heal anybody else

[limpid yarrow]

m3 and sakiko for is6
degen for is5

[restive sedge]

are the new alts good with potentials? I have a few royal tokens for both classes

[wraith sentinel]

She heals pretty slow and prioritizes Mon3tr.

[timber finch]

ah

[urban sleet]

#1 rule in Arknights: classes don't matter, you care only about the role they fulfill. Things like "I need a high rarity of x class" or "I have too many operator of y class" literally means nothing

She's a dmg unit more than a medic
And prioritises healjng herself and mon3tr over others

[raven ermine]

If you play a lot of IS sure, it's a specific-ish drafting pattern tho
If not, not at all

[undone portal]

archetto/sakiko/mon3tr core
slot in more off.rec ops like hoe s1, lemuen s1, hoshialt s2, snegurochka s1,

[raven ermine]

Sneg good i'm not gonna lie

[timber finch]

i didnt see she was doing favoritism mb

[urban sleet]

Wtf I dont have cheeto comp either
I am doometh

[coarse notch]

i think mei also posted a chetto tier list on reddit a while back

but its is5 specific

[undone portal]

being a marginally worse puzzle is honestly a pretty high honor for a 4star

snegu is an agent so shes already decent at minimum

[carmine trout]

leave puzzle alone

[copper oracle]

yes

[cyan sky]

So u guys r saying spark only for the victims of really poor rng and whales, right?

[brazen gulch]

classes don't matter you say and yet

[coarse notch]

yo @limpid yarrow did celeryi ever figure out if leveling sneg is a good idea

[undone portal]

when did i say this

[limpid yarrow]

not sure if he said anything about it

[copper oracle]

why not just ask him urself

[brazen gulch]

"you" as in #help , not actually you specifically

[coarse notch]

maybe tree man knows the tech as well

[wraith sentinel]

Or if you really really like a character, but yeah don't spark for meta.

[copper oracle]

maybe u should ask ardanis

[nimble kite]

Play her in the Poison Haze map with only Kal as medic, and you will curse her every second.

[raven ermine]

Sure, just commit to the hivemind bit

[coarse notch]

you're so right

[wraith sentinel]

I got her from a Temp Recruitment and she was my only Medic in The Red Mist...

[raven ermine]

It's a vanguard it's cooked

[undone portal]

classes dont matter when determining what an op is designed to do, op kits are designed to be unique
but certain subclasses are very much just inherently good as a result of their default numbers + intended role

[timber finch]

i already curse Gavial for not healing the tank under 3 sarkaz

[nimble kite]

Mega F.

[severe crypt]

Ok but that’s because she sucks notwithstanding

[nimble kite]

Gavial is shit. Should use Sussuro.

[reef zinc]

Will she be usefull in Ashy Marsh Annihilation?

[carmine trout]

i got a random papyrus in is2 once and she was really goodge i like it

[timber finch]

yeah but i didnt have sussuro

[undone portal]

i think thats less papyrus being good and more is2 putting high value on aoe healers

[nimble kite]

Yeah, but still - just tank the damage and put fire down.

[reef zinc]

Ok

[carmine trout]

who's ardanis

[nimble kite]

I believe he has Unhelpful role, so he cannot be here.

[undone portal]

dead and buried. started too much shit in here

[brave arch]

What did he even do

[ancient current]

not the channel to discuss this

[carmine trout]

is he Voldemort or something

[undone portal]

take up it in dms with someone who was there for the inciting incident

[chilly apex]

is there a 4 star that is good to give the e2 ticket? aside from ethan and myrtle

[raven ermine]

Indigo, purestream

[wraith sentinel]

Cuora if you need a tank.

[carmine trout]

perfumer

[raven ermine]

There are more niche options if you're invested in IS

[young glacier]

Totter (when his gimmick cheeses enemy Ines can't reach)

[undone portal]

click

[coarse tide]

🤏

[carmine trout]

or even Ethan?

[undone portal]

ethans the best candidate

[wraith sentinel]

Did say "aside from ethan".

[carmine trout]

Ah en moment my bad

[chilly apex]

i already have ethan and myrtle bc of that e2d

[coarse tide]

But like why wouldnt u e2 ethan

[brave arch]

I've been enjoying playing contrail lately

[coarse tide]

Thoughts on the flying jetpack dude

[cyan sky]

For vibes I REALLY want a few ops from Rainbow 6 collab, but I guess I should just forget about em, right?

[carmine trout]

caeper is fun

[undone portal]

contrails a girl
shes got pretty good dps for a 4star, but most people arent relying on 4stars for dps

[brave arch]

Is caper module worth it?

[raven ermine]

Act as if they didnt exist

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, collabs are really up in the air if anything happens with them.

[undone portal]

loopshooter mods are all really good

[brave arch]

Yeah but she's also flying so she doesnt die

[severe crypt]

Tbf the only good r6s op is ela

[lyric lagoon]

like we don’t even know if mh2 will have a rerun of the first mh yet, all we know is that it’s just a 2nd mh event

[native cargo]

for generating dp with sash 2 is s3 better than s2 considering their skill cycle

[wraith sentinel]

If it even happens...

[brave arch]

The disrespect for Lord is unreal

[restive sedge]

did we get an ash rerun when the second r6s event dropped?

[severe crypt]

Yes but it’s not an official standard

[wraith sentinel]

Hard to form a pattern with only one instance unfortunately.

[undone portal]

i would say so, genning a whole penance of dp soon after deploy is pretty good
people tend to say s2 is his main skill but it asks for an actual teamcomp tailored for it to shine. s3 just works everywhere and has real utility through fragile application

[lyric lagoon]

we need more same franchise collabs to happen for a precedent and standard to be set

[young glacier]

Well there is coping for "1 = 100%" pattern

[copper oracle]

surely

[tulip inlet]

How do you capture Gramophones? Do you just place operators next to it? Do they need to be attacking it? Does placing multiple operators next to Gramophones speed up the capture time?

[coarse notch]

depends on the stage
if you need consistent dp gen his s3 cycle is terrible
if you need actual dp and not dp cost reduction then yea use s3

[lyric lagoon]

just placing

[wraith sentinel]

Yes. No. Yes.

[raven ermine]

summons work too

[coarse notch]

i disagree that you need a teamcomp for s2 to work, its just good everywhere

[coarse tide]

Yenoye

[turbid pasture]

Wich module is the best for suzuran?

[wraith sentinel]

Each ally (operator, traps, summons, etc...) gives an additional SP to the Gramophone each second. I think you need 100 SP to take control, or 50 SP?

[undone portal]

thoughts on silveralt s3 as an exualt s3 candidate?

[brave arch]

Adjacent tiles only tho mind u

[lyric lagoon]

s2 is his most consistent skill with the best skill cycling at that

[tulip inlet]

Ah that explains why some were not being captured.

[undone portal]

his s3 lasts long enough where exu summon is almost ready to go again by the time its done

[raven ermine]

mody if you go up to mod3
Modx if you keep it lv1
Suzu mod is very optional tho, wouldn't recommend it very much

[wraith sentinel]

Trapmasters (Robin is free for example) are great because Traps count for Gramophones and only take one Deployment Slot for multiple spots.

[brave arch]

Aka Ulpinuke

[coarse notch]

i feel like there are better redeployment targets for exu2 once you're 57 seconds into the stage
if you really need consistent dp gen id rather bring a flag and use exu2 to redeploy someone else
maybe you could use it in IS when you dont have your full roster

[wraith sentinel]

You can use Exusiai's S3 on Myrtle for more DP.

[coarse notch]

you'll be over 2 minutes into the stage by the time exu2 gets her redeployment back up

[wraith sentinel]

(Don't do this, but it is funny.)

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, the slashes coming from other ops scaling on those other op’s attacks can make crazy numbers

[undone portal]

fair enough, you should have a mlynar/hoshi down by then

[brave arch]

Oh yeah btw guys in a situation where i have hoshi2 saria and exu2 who do i redeploy via s3 saria or hoshi2

[wraith sentinel]

Hoshiguma, especially if you use her S3 and deactivate it manually for the duration extension.

[raven ermine]

[undone portal]

why are we redeploying saria exactly

[brave arch]

Btw does it work with phantom? I think it should but idk

[lyric lagoon]

premier exu2 redeploys are mlynar and hoshi2

[opaque remnant]

What does redeploying saria even do?

[raven ermine]

Hey, 80sp cost, might as well
If you use s3 that is

[brave arch]

S3 sp battery for exu2 for 300% sp regen basically because of decay trait

[opaque remnant]

Big if

[undone portal]

exu cycles so fast though she doesnt need all this

[wraith sentinel]

Yu S2 can also work I think for rerouting, but yeah Tragodia exists.

[coarse notch]

thats schizo considering exu2 gets her skill back in 30 seconds

[turbid pasture]

I thought that mody is better to have more time to slow plus the extra fragile and the enfeeble that gives but the sp reg is also tempting for the modx

[coarse notch]

use saria s3 + arts nuker to dps a target
redeploy saria to use s3 again
your nukers are all on cd

[brave arch]

Fair but you can get hoshi skill back up as well if she's taking damage

[lyric lagoon]

perks of geek mod

[coarse notch]

wat

[raven ermine]

Have a second round of nukers ready wdym 🥹

[brave arch]

And then again hoshi2 art dmg amp

[severe crypt]

Hoshi amps art dmg?

[coarse notch]

if you're using s3 to give sp to hoshi2 you wont have it up for her s3

[opaque remnant]

I’m curious, does exu2 S3 work with sa2, it’d be funny if it did

[wraith sentinel]

It counts as a normal deploy, so it should.

[slate ridge]

i hope you have Stainless and Nasti and Sui buff and Ptilo mod3 to get that Hoshi2 S3 again in time with Saria S3 mod2

[opaque remnant]

Ulpi S3 cycle meta-

[brave arch]

Actually yeah you're right it messes up the cycle a lot

[raven ermine]

It's more about the extra fragile on s3, but like, it won't be relevant in 99.999% of cases
I don't even know if it ever was relevant before ngl
It's quite a steep cost for such low gains on actual use cases

[tidal vale]

is it worth for tequila module?

[raven ermine]

Nope, rocks are cheap

[lyric lagoon]

they say the age of executors left us but executors are just expanding to other classes with how many redeploys and helidrops we have

[restive sedge]

will dance shoes let exu2 s3 redeploy ranged ops?

[coarse notch]

yes

[tidal vale]

oh

[opaque remnant]

Just grind 1-7

[tidal vale]

my workshop is lvl 1

[undone portal]

youve got enough time to grind 1-7 for 3 t4 rocks before event starts

[wraith sentinel]

Crownslayer will be forever relevant (even if in memes).

[tidal vale]

i cant craft them yet

[undone portal]

maybe change that

[raven ermine]

Then don't think about unlocking module on tequila, you're obviously quite new

[brave arch]

Wow i didn't think of that but if i had to guess no

[raven ermine]

You have better things to do right now, module is very optional for 5*, especially on tequila

[undone portal]

exualt can already rdp ela in normal contexts. dance shoes do work, can confirm

[tidal vale]

my bad its lvl 2

[brave arch]

On ranged units? I think it's specified in skill desc that she redeploys ground units

[tidal vale]

i still cant upgrade it to lvl 3 im still at control center lvl 3

💤

[raven ermine]

Do.not.unlock.module.for.tequila.if.you're.new

[lyric lagoon]

tiles are referred to as low ground or high ground, so it still fits exu2 desc

[tidal vale]

ok then

[wraith sentinel]

It probably just checks the operator with the longest Redeployment timer that can be placed where the Delivery Coordinates are.

[lyric lagoon]

if it specified melee operators, then that’d be different

[tidal vale]

even after i do 7-11?

[brave arch]

Makes sense yeah

[raven ermine]

Yes
You first raise everything you have to raise, including base, baseslaves, team to e2, skill level 7, masteries for your good units, then you can think about mods, but even then you likely have better units to mod

[tidal vale]

do i have anything better to mod in here

[raven ermine]

Yes, silverash, narantuya

[restive sedge]

dont even mod tho just build ur ops first. ur gonna need a lot of lmd for all of those

[raven ermine]

Ngl even kroos2 would take priority, you'll use her later for IS, while tequila, not so much

[opaque remnant]

Why are all your 6 stars e0-

[floral light]

new player probably
only tequila is promoted

[tidal vale]

i didnt feel like farming chips yet

[opaque remnant]

Hoshi2 has been out for a few months already-

[tidal vale]

i log on every 2 centuries

[raven ermine]

Don't overinvest in a single unit anyway

[lyric lagoon]

poverty

[lyric lagoon]

so you log on whenever a limited banner comes on

[opaque remnant]

Wonderful

[tidal vale]

i log on just whenever i feel like it

[floral light]

isn't this a pretty normal thing

[brave arch]

So i did internet research and apart from the fact that of course there isn't any info on the interaction itself seems like ground operator is the same as melee operator type of thing so she'll only redeploy ground ops on high ground tiles

[lyric lagoon]

buddy if that’s the only times you play arknights, you are in material debt, lmd debt, debt, debt, every kind of debt

[tidal vale]

i have 440k lmd im fucking rich wdym

[floral light]

idt I have even been doing my dailies nor maintaining my base rotations for the past year

[tidal vale]

i have enough to last me 3 lifetimes !!

[rain forge]

that’s poverty level

[raven ermine]

Would assume a fair amount of the more casual playerbase do that yes
Being in a discord would make you see only the more invested part of the playerbase in the first place, most of us play everyday, doing every dailies, and rotating base

[brazen gulch]

it'll be gone in a flash once you start upgrading units unfortunately

[rain forge]

It’s not enough to e2 a single 6*

[lyric lagoon]

no wonder bro has no e2 of anything aside from the one op who got the senior op training voucher

[restive sedge]

just the promotion to e2 takes 180k 😭

[tidal vale]

dude. fuck man.

[timber finch]

yeah e2ing them takes like 200k only in promotion
then you add levels

[lyric lagoon]

barely enough to max lvl e1 💀

[rain forge]

[raven ermine]

You shouldn't e1 max in the first place

[rain forge]

400k isn’t even enough for like 4 e1 level 40s iirc

[restive sedge]

doesn't help that the stages for lmd are pretty mid(?). i assume best ways to get lmd is still just event shops and base income

[raven ermine]

More than mid, bad

It's actually detrimental to progression, especially for new players

[tidal vale]

should i be making peeps e2 then or story

[raven ermine]

Focus on making everyone e1
Then base > baseslaves #bot-spam /base and /baseskills

[brave arch]

A single good e2 6 star can carry you up to ch8 i think if the rest of the squad are 3 and 4 stars

[tidal vale]

e1 lvl1?

[lyric lagoon]

way past that even if the rest of the squad are low rarity

[brave arch]

Yeah but on ch8 you have to build e2 amiya no? Don't remember

[slate ridge]

Uh no

1. Check if the deployment is possible
2. Check if the deploy limit is reached
3. Check if the targeted tile is ground and not high or universal
4. Check if highest redeploy timer

[floral light]

you can just skip to ep9

[lyric lagoon]

you could just skip that

[raven ermine]

You can give them a few levels, the early ones after promotions are quite cheap
Make sure you invest in skill levels too, it makes a big difference

[lyric lagoon]

they give you access to the first chapter of every act, so you can just skip it

[tidal vale]

how much roughly would be good enough

[floral light]

is it chapter or episode I don't remember

[brave arch]

So you cant even put coordinates on high ground even with shoes?

[brazen gulch]

40, 50 for the more important ones if you want cheap

[raven ermine]

For now you can go to like e1 lv20 or so
When you'll be done with base/baseslaves, come back to it and make everyone e1 50, then you can start working on e2ing hoshi2 > silverash > narantuya

[brazen gulch]

nvm didn't realize the resources are this thin

[brave arch]

Episode but who cares

[tidal vale]

story tho..

[slate ridge]

Exu2 summon is ground

[raven ermine]

They have a lot to upgrade right now, and baseslaves/base will cost lmd too, if they can afford more levels it's good, but i don't think they'll be able to right away

[brave arch]

We were discussing in the context of dancing shoes relic

[slate ridge]

And summons are not operators

[brave arch]

Oh thanks didn't know it doesn't apply

Good to know actually thanks

[raven ermine]

Units include summon and operators
When it states operators tho, summons don't count
I'm sure there must be one or two cases of classic HG translation, but overall that's it

[lyric lagoon]

the newbie loop of “progress needs upgraded operators” -> “operators need resources to function “-> “resources obtained from progress” -> “need progress to upgrade new operators” -> etc

[brave arch]

You gotta cut somewhere yeah

I didn't have hoshi2 when i went on campaign binge but i think she can hypercarry most stages right?

Except for episode 14 maybe

[raven ermine]

She should work decently, but investing in an "hypercarry" isn't the best solution in arknight
Especially when you have access to e2 borrows already with the e2 5* ticket

[brave arch]

I completely forgot about borrow system 💀 my bad

[brazen gulch]

is astgenne the first unit to have both of their versions as welfares or am i missing someone

[undone portal]

only instance of it, unless you count the story 3stars as welfare

[brazen gulch]

ah right. yea i'd count those

[undone portal]

then kroos/lava would also count

[pale tapir]

kroos is welfare? til

[raven ermine]

Fang also

[undone portal]

fangalt is gacha

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah

[pale tapir]

I thought people got fang from gambling

[raven ermine]

Feel like a welfare 🥹

[brazen gulch]

on another note, does astgenne alter not have any base skills? neither the wiki nor the kit summary in #game-news show anything

[tired wharf]

whalefare

[undone portal]

being the 2nd best charger behind bagpipe is a decent title

[pale tapir]

are there any 3* non reserve a1 ops that are welfare

[opaque remnant]

Actually now I wonder, if the pioneer class is considered outclassed, what about the chargers

[undone portal]

i recall orchid being free from 1-7

[pale tapir]

oh sick
an a6 member yay

[undone portal]

even moreso

[pale tapir]

chargers died long before pioneers
by virtue of needing to kill things to generate dp
rip vigna bagpipe my goats

[floral light]

her base skills suck
it's like rhine lab slop but outclassed by others

[lyric lagoon]

bagpipe was really only relevant for early battery purposes

[restive sedge]

do people still run bagpipe flagbearers or is it just spam agents or something now?

[lyric lagoon]

agents, and even if newbies run flags due to not owning any agents, flags don’t need bagpipe

[opaque remnant]

It’s interchangeable tbh, flags are more consistent, agents have usually higher production, not like it matters much for gen content for the most part

[raven ermine]

The meta option would be to run agents
The comfort option is flagpipe

[buoyant sigil]

Anyone have a haruka I could borrow

[ancient current]

ReChord#9454

[brazen gulch]

half the playerbase feelslike yea

[timber finch]

i feel like im the only one struggling to use my flag 😭
everytime i use myrtle early i somehow die

[coarse tide]

Sorry dont have it

[ancient current]

mine isn't fraudulent so

[lyric lagoon]

don’t use them as a laneholder

[coarse tide]

Maybe ur using myrtle s2‼️

[opaque remnant]

Alternatively, switch to Matsukiri-

[timber finch]

i mean, that doesnt work with myrtle anyways

[buoyant sigil]

Sent.

[timber finch]

sadly he's not in record restoration :(

[lyric lagoon]

then how is she dying, just put her in some nowhere random space with no enemies

[ancient current]

added

[buoyant sigil]

Tysm! Helps a bunch in general

[opaque remnant]

You can just put them later, if you need an early lanehold just put them first, Myrtle can just be used for printing for the heavier cost ops

[ancient current]

will maybe have to remove later because I am running out of friend slots

[undone portal]

just stick her in some corner where enemies wont look at her and use the dp to deploy someone who can lanehold

[timber finch]

actually fair, i usually tend to not place her after the start and i can't put her at the start due of always having dogs

[restive sedge]

shouldn't really use flags on stages that rush u at the start

[undone portal]

flags on dog stages is a recipe for leaks

[timber finch]

i see fast rushers too often 😭

[opaque remnant]

It’s just early stages

[raven ermine]

Just use fang/noir for those

[undone portal]

mountain if you have him

[coarse tide]

Robot is free to use

[undone portal]

friston goated frfr

[opaque remnant]

And deal with 300 second redeployment? No thank you

[coarse tide]

Why are u not healing ur robots‼️ ‼️

[timber finch]

i never realised noir was so cheap..

[undone portal]

if the early block count right at the beginning is what lets you start your stage then whats the issue

[stark burrow]

When did cn get the pc client?

[rain forge]

Sometime around Feb iirc

[floral light]

around wang I think(?)

ya open beta testing for PC was alongside wang event

[rain forge]

actually wait what is the salter event minigame

[brazen gulch]

copium injected

[floral light]

no copium needed for me when I play cn

[silver spindle]

I need some of that

[restive sedge]

global pc client in 3 months copium

[brazen gulch]

emus are so ass 😭

[bright lake]

bro im so confused, how do you do this dumb web event???? (and no i didnt read)

[silver spindle]

Yh I use to use Google play official emulator till we get an actual pc port might come back to it on pc

[undone portal]

make pramanix go outside and touch grass. watch number go up

dont even need to actually play to get the 30k lmd if thats what you care about

[median fable]

you can ask in #1211614253354852362 to make web events that don't require reading and that are easy even for the illiterate. Yostar is always happy to receive feedbacks from its community, don't shy from using that safe space our favorite publisher gave us 😄

[humble nova]

Some of the videos im watching have hands for their arknight cursors, is that from the game? If so how?

[raven ermine]

That's pc client

[humble nova]

Oh darnn

[winter crystal]

How will they know yostar will agree with their idea? They are illiterate

[rain forge]

blind leading the blind

[median fable]

silly me, maybe we should have asked for a medium to transfer knowledge without the usage of written symbols. What were they thinking 5000 years ago our ancestors

[raven ermine]

Clankers know how to use TTS, silly

[winter crystal]

Unga bunga EN moment

[exotic shell]

hey so i have a question: where do i go to ask someone to borrow a specific operator?

[floral light]

maybe just here or #friend-id

[winter crystal]

Who do you need?

[exotic shell]

ah okay cool, i just need an E2 lvl 85+ Surtr bc i'm trying to beat the IW-9 boss

[rain forge]

Borrow a leizi alter instead
Use s3

Actually just borrow a wisadel

[shy quiver]

Ascalon wants S3 right?

[raven ermine]

There are plenty of better options nowadays

[lunar apex]

s2

[rain forge]

Surtr is outdated

[shy quiver]

Ah. Worth specialising?

[undone portal]

leizialt/yatoalt are better borrows here

[exotic shell]

how would i go about using either of those? i'm legit just following a Kyostin guide from 3 yrs ago 😭

[winter crystal]

Masteries yes mod? Just xlvl1

[shy quiver]

Thanks all

[raven ermine]

modx1 is important for ascalon too

[shy quiver]

Would you prio her or Ray first for E2?

[rain forge]

place down leizi
make sure she’s facing the boss and not facing away (important)
use skill
watch

[undone portal]

for leizi, just use her the same way youd use surtr. press skill button
for yato, just repeatedly deploy her s3 onto the boss

[raven ermine]

Wisadel, you drop, click the skill and voila
Yato2, just use s3, and spam her deploy on the boss

[winter crystal]

“Don’t drink the paint” lvl of instructions

[exotic shell]

which skill should i use?

[rain forge]

I just told you

3

[exotic shell]

oh ty

[winter crystal]

Nvm looks like we needed more detailed instructions 🥀

[exotic shell]

can Wisadel solo clear all the enemies?

[undone portal]

flinger hitcount should cover for the furniture yea

[tardy urchin]

EN community cannot think for themselves after all

[sick solar]

question to people that played the game since relese. was the visit next button available since release or is it some forgotten ancient terran technology that is not available on talos2 yet?

[restive sedge]

i think it was?

[brazen gulch]

i just went to try and LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[raven ermine]

I can't remember it not being there, so i assume it was a day1 feature
Might be wrong tho

[void ivy]

What i know is that we dont have this feature in Endfield yet

[sick solar]

i know that, thats why i am asking :D

[brazen gulch]

i remember struggling so much

[restive sedge]

i remember spamming visit next to credit farm for early game (Grani event time)

[rain forge]

[tardy urchin]

yea leizi3’s s3 does a lot of damage. it’s just that its full power is locked behind either a peak map terrain or a giant boss
fortunately IW-9’s boss happens to be giant

[rain forge]

Outside of ccb stuff does setting support units even benefit you

[eager rapids]

does anyone know how long a player had to have been gone to be considered returning

[rain forge]

2 months iirc

[raven ermine]

You get credit when they're borrowed

[winter crystal]

The rewards aren’t worth gaming the afk returnee system

[rain forge]

is there any 5* or below operator that people seem to borrow often

[hidden nacelle]

is bellome trash
or is his single target boss kill utility actually useful

[brave arch]

He's just replaceable

[rain forge]

My base is the usual 252 but instead of level 2 rr it’s a level 2 office

[raven ermine]

Nah, it's just a cute trophy case
You could put starter 4* units for IS if you really want to cope someone borrowing them

[restive sedge]

surfer/cantabile for IS maybe(?) but dunno if that contributes to the borrow credit

[limpid yarrow]

not exactly starters tho

probably the biggest one rn is luoxiaohei since he was a collab that not everyone has but is a great starter

[brazen gulch]

i keep a friend for beanstalk alone :(

[brave arch]

Professional breeder

[restive sedge]

i remember my robin + ambriel got borrowed a few times when the bear stage got released

[hidden nacelle]

she's a breeder

[brazen gulch]

is that some inside joke

[hidden nacelle]

shamare turns the bear off it's kinda silly

[restive sedge]

no she's a breeder

[hidden nacelle]

look up her recruitment line I think

[restive sedge]

look at her trait

[brazen gulch]

i.. know but the way you say it is so out of/lacking in context that it makes my brain circle around to thinking that there is supposed to be context

[brave arch]

That's the intent

[hidden nacelle]

well we just told you the context

[brazen gulch]

whatevs

[urban sleet]

Decent but not meta from what I understand is this channel's impressjon also no reql usecases yet either

[brave arch]

Should i raise beach chen guys??

[hidden nacelle]

depends on roster
needs module max and m3 minimum

[brave arch]

Second module?

[hidden nacelle]

the one that makes tiles count as water on skill

[limpid yarrow]

without module her s3 is the same as pram2 s2
yknow, the infinite duration afk skill that comes with extra freeze...

[brave arch]

Anyway what's her purpose a nuke or cc?

[limpid yarrow]

a nuke
maybe closer to a nade than the nuke she once was but thats her cycle!

[wraith sentinel]

Ceylon buff.

[brave arch]

Lmaooo

I forgot about ceylon only use her as base worker

[humble nova]

Does sash and sash2’s redeployment time reduction stack each other?

[limpid yarrow]

yes

[humble nova]

Thats sickkk

[brazen gulch]

additively or multiplicatively

[brazen gulch]

fair

[urban sleet]

Additively would be truly insane yeah

[hidden nacelle]

isnt multiplicative better

i guess not on reductions

[brave arch]

I think it is

[light latch]

no

[hidden nacelle]

no its worse when you're decreasing a value
better when you're increasing a value (like atk buff)

[brave arch]

If we take as redeployment timer decrease speed

[wraith sentinel]

(1 - 0.1) * (1 - 0.2) = 0.72 -> 28% percent reduction, less than 30% (0.1 + 0.2).
I think.

[brave arch]

But idk the inner working of this stuff there's a lot of interesting nuance to arknights genuinely

[hidden nacelle]

time * (1 - redep decrease% )* (1- redep decrease %)

[humble nova]

Wait does sash2’s skill2 slashes made by deploying other ops excluding self reveal enemies as well? Cuz if so thats rlly good and tactically useful

[hidden nacelle]

there is interesting naunce...but this is just math

[light latch]

additive would result in 100%-20%-20% = x0.6 reduction, multiplicative is *0.8 *0.8 = x0.64 reduction

[shy quiver]

Ray or Ascalon for E2 prio?

[wraith sentinel]

(Base SilverAsh's Talent reduces by 10% / 12%.)

[light latch]

i'm including module here

[hidden nacelle]

ray

[wraith sentinel]

Fair enough.

[tidal vale]

do i use hoshi2s s1 or s2

[hidden nacelle]

dont think it matter multiplicative is objectively worse no watter what numbers you plug in

[abstract mauve]

yes but they dont work the same

[hidden nacelle]

s3 > s2

[wraith sentinel]

I mean yeah that I know, I did the math above as well.

[abstract mauve]

original sash rounds. sash2 goes by the decimal

[tidal vale]

i only just got her e1

[tardy urchin]

s3 >>>>>>>
but when applicable s2 is almost always better. s1 is only better against enemies that hit you like a million times

[hidden nacelle]

s2 then

[brave arch]

S1 is inferior to other skills

[restive sedge]

when does ray's skin rerun? I remember there was a site that tracks skins or something

[wraith sentinel]

https://hermitzplanner.github.io/

[restive sedge]

tysm

[hidden nacelle]

nasti banner

[abstract mauve]

#strategy message

@humble nova
@brazen gulch

[brazen gulch]

t-thanks

[humble nova]

Oh interesting thx

[hidden nacelle]

wait no new skin for people a people :(

[wraith sentinel]

Spaghetti code strikes again it seems.

[brave arch]

Wow

[urban sleet]

Surtr l2d unless I am misremembering

[humble nova]

Good reruns tho, mylnar, ines <33

[hidden nacelle]

oh yeah hermitz is lying to me

[abstract mauve]

just fyi im not sure if mod fixes sash rounding down. mod was released way after sash so potentially it changes how he works

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah nymph got a new skin too, along with someone I am foegetting

[hidden nacelle]

can you test again pooki

[wraith sentinel]

I think it hasn't been updated yet.

[abstract mauve]

you are asking too much of me

[rain night]

anyone with a maxed trag wanna add me ?

[odd sky]

i don't remember sash1 redeploy round at all

[brave arch]

I have pot2

[rain night]

epic pls add me tycho

[hidden nacelle]

nuhuh

[odd sky]

what does maxed mean

[short kettle]

p6

[rain night]

uh masteries , module , level ? i suppose ?

[brazen gulch]

https://krooster.com/u/a-blade-to-slay-the-regent-king probably mountain?

[odd sky]

[rain night]

not p6 lol

[hidden nacelle]

torns

[odd sky]

well maxed here means p6

[wraith sentinel]

*Actual redeployment time will be rounded down after calculation , and the actual reduction may differ from the stated value.
*The additional reduction in redeployment time for <X Module> is achieved by directly modifying the redeployment timers of itself/nearby friendly units, and is calculated separately without rounding.

According to prts.wiki.

[rain night]

noted brother

[exotic shell]

Leizi died during the 2nd phase of IW-9 even with a medic, should I be using two medics?

[abstract mauve]

oh yeah that makes sense ig in a weird spaghetti code way

[restive sedge]

has sakiko tho maybe mountains a bit better

[hidden nacelle]

wtf is IW 9

[brazen gulch]

doesn't togawa powercreep the hell out of him

[brave arch]

Big dragon stage

[exotic shell]

Invitation to Wine stage 9

[hidden nacelle]

i mean mountain is fuckshit useless so

[brazen gulch]

well thorns is even more so without e2 and i'm not e2ing thorns when i can e2 togawa right?

[cold island]

Hello peeps! Just joined because well, started in Endfield and im tryhing to get the story and why AK is so well known, im stuck in stage 2-9

[odd sky]

yea i have modded and still remember it doesn't round at all, but ig base talent does then

[hidden nacelle]

why cant e2 both

[lyric lagoon]

basically ranged afk laneholder vs afk attacks all blocked enemies laneholder that melts like paper

why did I say e2

[abstract mauve]

ye that's what the guy sent from the wiki. it says it's calculated seperately

talent rounds down while mod doesnt

[hidden nacelle]

the story is pretty shit early on due to bad text spam and translation; watch the anime for the firsst few chapters of story lol
you need to bring a few snipers
i reccomend just borrowin someone else's 6 star to carry you through early game
dm if need my 6 stars ig

[wraith sentinel]

Kroos (3*) is quite decent for a sniper, especially early on.

[odd sky]

it make sense, base talent is get go from start of stage, and mod talent is conditional

[lyric lagoon]

anime is ngl pretty mid for season 1 asw

[abstract mauve]

do -redeployment time relics round down?

[hidden nacelle]

at least has animation

[abstract mauve]

i've yet to hear someone try out arknights due to the anime

[hidden nacelle]

i found out theres a bonus tutorial stage in chapter 2 i hadnt cleared yet @cold island thanks

[hidden nacelle]

you try the anime due to playing arknights yup

[lyric lagoon]

season 1 is mid bordering on ass, season 2 is carried by frostnova arc, season 3 doesn’t have consistent pacing due to all the stories they’re tryna throw into it at once while leaving out some details

[cold island]

goddamnit, the limitation on the units is what is destroying me

[odd sky]

let us see roster #strategy kinda dead

[cold island]

roster that im trying out the stage

but i can only setup 8 units max. 2 snipers, 2 medics, 4 defenders

[hidden nacelle]

do you really need more than one medic

also what did you put your e2 ticket into

[cold island]

this one?

i also have this

[restive sedge]

Is the beginners roadmap good still? I don't think he's unlocked tequila yet

[hidden nacelle]

yes

[hidden nacelle]

erm which one

[cold island]

what should i do with it then

[buoyant sigil]

Spent one of the e2 vouchers from the ave mujica collab in amiya e2 to complete ch.8. I didn’t have anything worth really and felt like I was procrastinating too much
Was it any worthwhile? I do feel like it wasn’t too bad a decision, I’ve already raised all the 5* I had that were worth raising

[restive sedge]

There's this one to follow that I found from the Roadless Camelot link: https://i.imgur.com/9ECABNR.jpeg

[rain night]

https://www.krooster.com/u/cuff13
are these units from my roster of characters fine to build in very very low prio, ( amiya is mandatory because of remaining story stage )
very very low prio because i am working on masteries and modules of my current team right now..

[brave arch]

Amiya is a solid core caster

[odd sky]

you don't need to plug every lane with defenders, you can retreat them, then deploy if needed

[hidden nacelle]

sakiko uika i love <3

[cold island]

after clearing 3-4, i didnt even clear chapter 2 yet wheeze

[hidden nacelle]

mantra is...yikes

i honestly wouldnt build gladiaa but if you mean low low low prio then ig

[raven ermine]

If you had every other good 5* raised it's not so bad
But amiya is stupidly cheap to e2 compared to every single other 5* in existence

[rain night]

i thought mantra was fine though

[buoyant sigil]

Guess so. Ahh, I just have so much to raise outside of 5* that I kinda think it’d be a waste of lmd and everything I guess

[hidden nacelle]

sure why not end of day its not that many resources

[raven ermine]

Because she is, idk what they mean

[buoyant sigil]

Neat. It’s good that I’ve done a decent enough decision for once

[abstract mauve]

mantra is mighty fine yeah

[odd sky]

i think "hag" is yikes

[hidden nacelle]

i just think there are more prio masteries than mantra

[brave arch]

Yes build gladiia defo bc you're using abyssal hunters

[safe tundra]

what

[abstract mauve]

there's better ways to put that thought out there

[wraith sentinel]

Try something like this.

[hidden nacelle]

thats true ! mb cuff

[rain night]

ah i am not talking about masteries i already know their order.

[cold island]

reinforcing the weaker ones? Interesting

[rain night]

npnp

[wraith sentinel]

You can substitute with the ones you have in the same role, I just used low rarities for demonstration purposes.

[hidden nacelle]

tbh you wont finish masteries before sash2 and youll get something form that banner
probably just finish building up your current units then ask again

[slate ridge]

Its only like a 2-4 weeks delay at most to fully raise the next op after you used the mats on one so not that bad surely

As long as you understand that and is fine with it then the worth of your deviation is whatever

[rain night]

it will take me a couple of months for masteries ngl
and is5 wont give enough mats for each module i need
so i am in for a long ride.

[sick holly]

what mastery 3 has the most payoff: (what I should upgrade first) logos s3, zuo le s3, thorns s3, or ascalon s2?

[hidden nacelle]

when you say IS5 does tha mean you have 2 3 4 6 maxed?

[robust thistle]

Have you got logos modD3?

[rain night]

no
someone told me farming guide i will be doing that ?

[sick holly]

D2

[wraith sentinel]

I'll note that Yato dies before she can kill that one guy in this clear, but you can either bring a Medic along to place after retreating someone or just replace with someone else.
Also remember to upgrade Skill Levels if you haven't already.

[sick holly]

Zuo le X2, Ascalon X, Thorns D2

[hidden nacelle]

well no its just that the other IS are also goldmine of free material
m3s shant be too hard, you can monthly sqwuads and stuff for quick mats
might be lmd bottleneck if you dont play non-monthly-squad IS

[robust thistle]

Get his mod3 then work on zuole modx3 if you actually use him
Then logos s3m3

[rancid crow]

when i started this game not too long ago i had some free daily single pulls for limited banner. were they only there becouse i started? im guessing but im not sure tho

[rain night]

ah ye when i get to other IS it will be different

[hidden nacelle]

they are there for all limited banner

[wraith sentinel]

All quarterly limited banners have them.
Collab limited banners also have free pulls, but it's ten in the first week and another ten in the second week.

[subtle dawn]

what are some of the easier anhilation stages? im tryna clear them for pulls, i already beat saltfin graveyard, lungmen downtown and outskirts, and also chernobog

[cold island]

yeah, upgrading them whenever i can

[brave arch]

There are guides on YouTube for any of them so that you don't have to replay them because of a minor mistake

[wraith sentinel]

If you do make a mistake you can force-close the game to regain all the Sanity and not just a portion.

[worldly estuary]

You can also quit and restart the game so your progress doesn’t save up

[rain night]

thx

[brave arch]

I mean when clearing for the first time I'd be pissed to have to sit through 15 minutes again

[hidden nacelle]

lungmen downtown being harder will never not be funny to me ngl

[wraith sentinel]

I mean yeah, but some people also prefer not to use guides. Also if you did mess up something even with a guide it's useful to know.

[worldly estuary]

Thats pretty nice to know

[subtle dawn]

ty ♥️

[brave arch]

Fair enough

[rancid crow]

so there havent been any limited banners recently? i dont remember getting free pulls for sakiko banner. wasnt it a limited banner? did we get free pulls for haruka?

[worldly estuary]

I’d be more pissed to get 398 kills and redo it again

[hidden nacelle]

yes for haruka (flat 10 + daily single*14)
for sakiko we got 2 flat ten pulls (collab, not limited)

the next limited is in 4 days; they come once every 3 motnhs (4 times a year)

[brave arch]

Yeah that's what I'm talking about i had that experience with rat king stage

[worldly estuary]

Some are just straight cancerous

[wraith sentinel]

Next limited banner is on coming Tuesday. We did get two free ten-pulls for Sakiko. On Hoshiguma's and Haruka's banner we got the normal free twenty-four pulls (one ten-pull plus fourteen daily pulls).

Normally limited banners happen every three months, collab banners excluded.

[rancid crow]

i gotta pay mre attention next time then

[hidden nacelle]

are sash2 and pram2 both m6 or just 3

[autumn goblet]

Got her from recruitment Top operator thingy.
should i build her?
currently i''m using Nian only (Cardigan if i want medic defender for some stages and sometimes Liskarm too)
though i just put Blaze instead there too as she is 3 block unit

[rancid crow]

so soon we will get daily free pulls and a 10 pull?

[brave arch]

M6 easily

[wraith sentinel]

Can only be used on that specific banner, yeah.

[rancid crow]

now it makes sense why i forgot about it ty<3

[hidden nacelle]

cardigan is not a medic defender
i dont really see a reason for you to build mudrock except that she's cute

[winter crystal]

No Mudrock also cost 36 dp to deploy which is horrible on top of outdated stats

[restive sedge]

sash2 s2 has pretty bad scalings mastery wise but his s3 has good upgrades (Both are probably good enough to warrant m6)

[hidden nacelle]

shield mechanic makes a lot of bosses manageable when they hit real hard
sad mostly uneeded niche tho

[autumn goblet]

oh..... she is 36 DP.... Yikes... welp, another unit going into forever box ig

[winter crystal]

They also have to hit really slow for it to be viable too.

[brave arch]

Increasing multiplier on silverslash isn't bad

[restive sedge]

mudrock, the londinium cannon goat

[brave arch]

Especially for ulpianus shenanigan

[wraith sentinel]

Can be used to bait Londinium Secondary Artillery, yeah.

[hidden nacelle]

@winter crystal do you know the snow gen tile priority on pram2?

[hidden nacelle]

well she's still inherently tanky and has built in heal; hit really slow is only if you want her to take absolutely 0 dmg

[winter crystal]

Uhhh I can look into it but no not off the top of my head

[hidden nacelle]

ty for offering i await good news

[winter crystal]

Unfortunately Mudrock class is as good as their stats allow. On release Mudrock was unkillable bc she stack checked everything. Now after 5 years of power creep there is plenty that kill her and she can’t receive support like heals to keep her viable.

Not to mention the dp cost.

Why deploy Mudrock for 36 dp to block a boss when you can kill him from afar with exu2 11 dp?

[restive sedge]

is penance irrelevant now too?

[hidden nacelle]

as mudrock 3 skin haver can confirm is cute

[tardy urchin]

yea

[tidal vale]

is narantuyas s1 or s2 better

[hidden nacelle]

2

[robust thistle]

1 is more comfy really, s2 has cringe offrec

[tidal vale]

k

how about eyjafjalla

[mild yacht]

Eggofalaffal caster or Eggofallafal healer?

[restive sedge]

if its the caster, her s2 is definitely better than her s1

[abstract mauve]

when e1 narantuya generally runs s2. at e2 she runs s3 or s1 for afk

[tidal vale]

k

[severe crypt]

has anyone actually tried Eggo falafel

[winter crystal]

For tile priority I’m assuming you don’t mean what tiles her snow can expand on (which is low ground tiles only) do you mean which ones the snow will expand to next?

It looks like in order for the snow to travel to an adjacent tile it needs 3 layers of frost then the next instance it would normally add a layer it will instead expand to an adjacent tile. Of course if an enemy walks on the tile that layer of frost will disappear

All adjacent tiles (excluding diagonally adjacent) the snow will expand to

I could be wrong this is the first I’ve really looked into it

[wraith sentinel]

* The snow spreads as follows: each time the first talent stacks, all snow that has reached 5 layers spreads sequentially. 4 squares around the current tile, the snow spreads in the order of down, left, up, and right: If the plot meets the talent requirements, an attempt is made to create a 1-layer temporary snow cover on that plot . This temporary snow cover will also stack with the first talent and can also spread outwards (see #Talents for other snow cover criteria ).

(MTL from the prts.wiki about her S2.)

[hidden nacelle]

wait I might be stupid I didn't realize that ALL tiles gained a stack I thought it was one at a time

I was like surely all tiles is broken

[winter crystal]

Balanced out by when an enemy walks over it the layer disappears

[white iron]

Noob here should i build Highmore or Spectre for is runs ?

[wraith sentinel]

Hmm, can an unconnected Layers of Snow exist?

[severe crypt]

Or just use your Wis/trag/exu2/raidian support carry

[winter crystal]

Wait you mean IS (please capitalize it 😭 ) then the answer is no

[mild yacht]

If a mob walks through the middle, yea.

[hidden nacelle]

does a mob dying on tile make snow disappear or no
cause snow slows em so it takes a while to get through

[abstract mauve]

no

[winter crystal]

Also if a mod is teleported off a tile like with Yu S2 the tile isn’t removed either

[mild yacht]

We have two IS: Integrated Strategies and Il Siracusano

[tall atlas]

Should I use level 80 senior apparatus on silence, specter, ptilopsis, or Keen Kroos

[winter crystal]

Greyy2

[wraith sentinel]

Kroos probably, I think she benefits most from the extra levels out of those.

[coarse notch]

if you're new throw it onto specter

[mild yacht]

Or get Tequila and use it.

[frank wing]

Just don't use it on either of the medics

[tall atlas]

I don’t like using tequila ngl…

[hidden nacelle]

how hard can like 11 dp OP be to play
drop and wait press skill to kill

[tall atlas]

Not saying it’s hard, I just prefer to use not him

I prefer to use Sash if I want to wait for a skill to kill everything

[mild yacht]

You’d rather wait twice as long…

[hidden nacelle]

true i would prefer to use the 6 star that does functionally the same thing but better

@mild yacht wouldnt Kristen be a spacepatrol new subclass
she never shows up are taking off the field after deploy but you get an equivalent londinium cannon

[winter crystal]

Just say you don’t like using zero block ops. We know newbies struggle with the concept

[tardy urchin]

the anti liberator mindset among newbies so bad that roadless suggested different alternatives for e2 voucher that isn’t tequila

[abstract mauve]

that would be dope asf

[hidden nacelle]

roadmap image still says teq

[abstract mauve]

someone sent an updated version recently that shows to pick up tequilla but e2 specter

[abstract mauve]

.

[winter crystal]

Yep it should be updated?

[hidden nacelle]

oh yeah t says e2 spec
still says get teq tho

[light latch]

idk why the concept of a 0 block operator is so confusing

[wraith sentinel]

Also random yuri art.

[winter crystal]

Yeah bc tequila is still good just the E2 ticket prio has been changed

[hidden nacelle]

*welcomed yuri

[urban sleet]

I mean we had a newbie who said mlynar is baf since he doesnt attack off skill (e0 mlynar)

[light latch]

do ppl expect their high ground ops to block the enemies on the ground for them too

[hidden nacelle]

tbf e0 mylnar is bad yup

[earnest sparrow]

is it true that grindstone will be seen at every event as kohl and magnesium?

[hidden nacelle]

eventually

[urban sleet]

And frankly I have seen some newbies struggle with the concept of a liberator, like it kr not

[urban sleet]

They kept mlynar at e0 specifically because of that reason

[hidden nacelle]

ambushers:

[winter crystal]

Now explain to them how they shouldn’t place a merchant as soon as they get the dp for it

[tardy urchin]

I feel like liberators just feel very bad for newbies because they are meant to be used as nuke buttons to quickly dispose of highly dangerous enemies

and early game stages have none of those

[tall atlas]

The concept isn’t hard to understand I just don’t like using him Like I said, if I wanted a unit that waits for skill to kill things, I’d just use sash s3

[earnest sparrow]

not from next event onwards?

[lofty imp]

Does the sandstorm for IG-S-2 have a pattern or is the direction for the 2nd completely random?

[mild yacht]

Now explain to them why they shouldn’t activate a flag’s skill in a dog rush.

[winter crystal]

We know we know….

[opaque epoch]

will the top op being available during the upcoming event also include kal in the pool

[snow siren]

is astgene alter good?

[hidden nacelle]

difference being sash takes so long its faster to redeploy him instead of sit and wait

[light latch]

and does less dmg and is suspectible to dying while using his skill

[odd sky]

*way less dmg

[hidden nacelle]

intersting kit, lacks damage

[wraith sentinel]

Kinda sad her S3 only links two enemies.

[hidden nacelle]

how does sash dmg look on chart
both with max mod

[urban sleet]

Lacks good utility too, like sure I'd raise her but I do many questionabke things

[hidden nacelle]

i e2 vigil pallas and many 5 star for base you are fine

[winter crystal]

Are you talking about that one sandstorm stage in IS4? That is used to get an alternate ending? Then yes it’s random

If not ignore me 😭

[urban sleet]

Can't beqt s3m3 nod3 lee

[odd sky]

isn't it like half

[hidden nacelle]

i have s3m3 mod 2 😔

[urban sleet]

IG-S, its icebreaker

[light latch]

Im a weirdo who brings silverash for the redeploy reduction and i just bring his s2 as a body to block enemies

[winter crystal]

Ignore me

[hidden nacelle]

no shot??
seems to low

[odd heart]

I've had times where I just bring Mlynar solely to be a lightning rod, that prolly ain't weird given its a baked in talent though

[urban sleet]

I keep hearing S stages are hard hard as in truly relatively harder or hard to play cuz lag

[light latch]

S?

[wraith sentinel]

I didn't find any of the stages that challenging with a good partner, except maybe the Bastion Defense one.

[urban sleet]

Expert stages

[winter crystal]

The final unlock of the event

[mild yacht]

Well, you are likely to get people who were carried, or expect a carry. People that throw matches do exist.

[urban sleet]

'Good partner' gl to me

[light latch]

some of the advanced stages are harder imo, except for bastion

[hidden nacelle]

ive played exclusively with friends in call ngl

[urban sleet]

Yeah I am going to do the same, kidnap someone from here

[winter crystal]

Nah just gotta solo carry Ezpz

[light latch]

the sheep stage with ambushers is incredibly obnoxious

[mild yacht]

Wait till you get the rando who brings all the ch0 ops and can’t kill even one mob.

[winter crystal]

Make your partner quit so you can solo in peace

[urban sleet]

Not trusting randos ever since my partner almost killed my haruka by using wis on ice spiders, smh mf didnt deavtivate either

[wraith sentinel]

The one with the bomb? I found all the bomb ones pretty easy.

[hidden nacelle]

dude the other day
i queued with a random
first game we both have sakiko in top pick and he gets first pick and HE TOOK SAKIKO
i bet he felt stupid after seeing my full e2 80 m3 mod3 roster of ave mujica

[light latch]

Did u do the ambusher variant

[wraith sentinel]

Not sure.

[winter crystal]

I got my karma when a teammate retreated their op on a gramophone a second too early and never captured it

[mild yacht]

No, people do that to piss people like you off.

[light latch]

the ambusher variant is extremely obnoxious

[urban sleet]

I definitely didnt do that to a mujica fan in ny defense I hadnt seen their pfp

[wanton vigil]

did lineup exchange on expert and they brought a full roster of e1

[rain drift]

...what level are they

[urban sleet]

Simply use trapmasters

[wraith sentinel]

I like how Leizi trivialises that one Gramophone stage.

[winter crystal]

I don’t have ela (also too lazy to change my ops)

[light latch]

Especially if you play with randos in matchmaking, phase 2 has a knowledge check that instantly throws the run for a lot of ppl

[urban sleet]

Robin is free

[wanton vigil]

tbf, <70 player level, most ops 60-70

[odd heart]

Honestly my funniest partner was definitely the guy who also happened to also be a Sankta Blender fan.

[light latch]

If u try to immediately deploy ops next to your blue box during intermission u trigger a hidden sheep chain explosion trap and kill your ops

[noble kayak]

First pull on a fresh account who to work on

[mild yacht]

In my case, I do have Suckiko in first pick, and I’ll take her to not see her on the field. First people I got that used her blocked half the map with the whole band and wouldn’t try killing anything that got near the boxes.

[hidden nacelle]

the 6 star you just got

[urban sleet]

Beginner guide in pins (roadless camelot)

[wraith sentinel]

Damn, that does sound obnoxious.

[wraith sentinel]

(Save the rest of your pulls for the limited banner on Tuesday.)

[winter crystal]

Funny sheep moment

[light latch]

Also the stage has a dozen invisible stun inflicting snipers w 6k hp spawned on phase 2 start

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah I once got paired with a guy who was requesting for 2x speed while leaking
Towards the end I was defending his blue box

[wraith sentinel]

I guess I'll count myself lucky for not having rolled that variant.

[sinful sleet]

go one step further

reroll the account

since banner is close anyways and they mentioned it was fresh

[hidden nacelle]

petition to add chat to icebreakr

[winter crystal]

It’s not that bad

[hidden nacelle]

just mylnar it up and never use mylna
OR USE LEE

[mild yacht]

It has chat. Limited, but it exists.

[urban sleet]

Yes lets break the ice between the olayers

[tidal vale]

olayers

[wraith sentinel]

I'm happy we got to keep the Originium Slug emotes.

[willow kelp]

guys does the 50+ 2% per pull pity carry over banners? (kernel banners to be specific)

[urban sleet]

Finally a stage for Lee

[wanton vigil]

if they do, I hope they auto pause the game when the chat box is opened I can only multitask so much

[urban sleet]

I am more concerned abiut why you are pulling on kernel but yeah kernel pity is shared between kernel banners

[light latch]

Mlynar doesnt work here

[mild yacht]

It’s not the first. And why would you want to protect your partner? Maybe they want to get stunned ops too.

[hidden nacelle]

if youre at 50+ pity on kernel you better be a 6y player who got like 50 free kernel over time and didnt pull specfiically on kernel

[winter crystal]

Actually just spend all your time trash talking your teammate instead of playing the round 🥀

[wanton vigil]

yall get free kernel??

[frank wing]

yes I need to tell people to stop putting their ops in my way on the survival stage with bosses, I want to use funny roberta 😭

[sinful sleet]

accept that newbies will pull on kernal thinking it's a good move

[light latch]

Heavy crossbow ambushers dont target ops and do not have regular atks

[urban sleet]

Or just #arknights ppl in genersl

[light latch]

They cast an ability on an 8s cd if an enemy shares a horizontal or vertical lane with them

[winter crystal]

Literally anything with a hint of afk they pull

[willow kelp]

they don't

[rain drift]

is it really that bad? i havent dug enough time to assess the potential brain damage

[hidden nacelle]

oh those stun snipers ahhhh

[wraith sentinel]

When will we actually get regular Kernel pulls rather than a bit of lint and two dust motes per year...

[abstract mauve]

did you test this?

[urban sleet]

Look at this
#friend-id message

[tidal vale]

next decade surely

[abstract mauve]

im pretty sure the other enemies in their event dont work like this. dont see why they'd be special

[urban sleet]

There are few good apples in there, but its mostly rotten

[winter crystal]

[wanton vigil]

no before that, where're yall getting kernel bits (outside yellow cert) 😭 I haven't gotten a free pull in wht feels like years

[urban sleet]

I also remember a person from #arknights stating that asca will only get s1m3

[light latch]

I might be mixing up enemy abilities idk

[wraith sentinel]

At anniversary we got two pulls.

[hidden nacelle]

it doesnt matter kernel shit anywa

[winter crystal]

Or how thorns is a mid to late game lane holder. I could not convince them otherwise

[urban sleet]

You cannot, their standards for a good op are too low

[abstract mauve]

im pretty sure those projectiles get slowed by logos. at least for the enemies that fire 3 bullets, their animation repeats because they werent programmed to be on screen for that long. i would imagine they are coded the same since same event

[buoyant sigil]

Not gonna lie when I was new I really didn’t consider kernel, but it might just be me noticing the pattern of standard banners in gacha games being generally horrible bad

[urban sleet]

Well enough slandering them, lets talk about how cooked our kernel locating banner is

[limpid yarrow]

its so fire

[rain drift]

thorns kinda got shot down with sakiko's s2 doing that job a bit better

[limpid yarrow]

probably gonna be the best selling selection banner of all time
everyone is picking up passenger

[winter crystal]

So much wrong with that sentence

[wanton vigil]

idk I lowk like thorns s3 over sakiko s2, especially if she's not with the bandmates

[urban sleet]

Ideally you use sakiko s3 so

[winter crystal]

someone just end me

[wraith sentinel]

Who's on it?

[urban sleet]

Archetto
Thats all you need to know

[wanton vigil]

passenger goat

[limpid yarrow]

its all planned

[rain drift]

i still remember the pre-mod pissenger...

[raven ermine]

#help message

[hidden nacelle]

i want archetto lowkey
ive had her idol skin for like 3? 4? years and still dont have her

[urban sleet]

No dont traumatide them

[limpid yarrow]

stronghold protocol on the 28th
everyone will need passenger when the time comes

[humble nova]

Whats the total damage of ulpi’s s3m3 (lvl60) with Sash2’s slash?

[wraith sentinel]

Many thanks.

[silver spindle]

https://krooster.com/u/warm-gold-jackal-263x

Who should I build for my team here??

[buoyant sigil]

What sorcery is this
Holy kernel
This looks gen horrid to pull on

[urban sleet]

Level up naran skill for starters

[hidden nacelle]

togawa sakiko

[light latch]

Test which specifically

[urban sleet]

Let me bet their base slaves are unbuilt

[ancient sonnet]

E2 Naran and Sakiko

[buoyant sigil]

E2 silverash as well

[raven ermine]

That's kernel locating pool
Obviously, don't pull on it
Oldies are looking at who to certs instead, and even then, it's pretty arguable value wise, outside of some niche options for gamemodes

[wraith sentinel]

I might pick up Leizi honestly, I just really like her design.

[jade cargo]

anyone want to hop on a icebreaker game
i cant find anyone to donate 10 DP too

[light latch]

#icebreaker-lockers

[buoyant sigil]

You could maybe also consider lapluma, she’s not bad
I’ve also heard gracebearer can be considered pretty nice by 5* standards so who knows

[odd sky]

finally my flametail

[buoyant sigil]

Otherwise follow other peoples advice above

[hidden nacelle]

just wait and get leizialt

[urban sleet]

Someone pls confirm, my eyes had enough today

[wraith sentinel]

I have her P3 already.

[rain drift]

some decent operators, but like others said, Sakiko for ez time on most of the content

[raven ermine]

There are worse things than unbuilt baseslaves there

[urban sleet]

[wanton vigil]

off topic has anyone gotten achievement 8 on the prama web event?

[odd sky]

baseslaves not built, /base and /baseskills in #bot-spam

[silver spindle]

Huh I dont get sorry

[raven ermine]

go to the #bot-spam channel and type those commands

[odd sky]

base worker, to work in your factory and trading post

[wraith sentinel]

I'd be tempted to buy the Royal Tokens from Crystallization Sanctuary but damn the prices are insane.

[silver spindle]

@ancient sonnet @buoyant sigil and @hidden nacelle thanks very much

[abstract mauve]

the way you explained what they did implied to me that they stunned as their ability and not like a projectile they fired. ig you dont specifically say something against that but ye

[raven ermine]

tf is a cristallization sanctuary

[buoyant sigil]

No problem

[severe crypt]

If you mean cc shop, a bunch of us kinda do

[odd sky]

ccb currency

[severe crypt]

It does need 3000 for a pot tho

[raven ermine]

Oh cc shop
That's mostly what you use cc tokens on ngl

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, just that currently I've only done one CCB so I don't really have any reserves of currency.

[light latch]

My message was a response to someone suggesting mlynar to taunt them

[hidden nacelle]

@raven ermine how good is p6 sash1

[winter crystal]

You pretty much get enough currency to buy out 4 tokens in the cc shop if you complete the cc event

[raven ermine]

for each full reward clear you get 3.6k (or was it 3.8 ?)
So enough for a full set of pots and a bit of excess

[abstract mauve]

ye i reread after

[wraith sentinel]

(Saving at the moment in case I need one of the ops for a Vector Breakthrough stage or something similarly random.)

[rain drift]

am i deadass doomed if i have rec room, workshop and office at lv3

[light latch]

no?

[raven ermine]

wdym ?
Compared to what or in what context ?
Pretty lacking overall ngl

[winter crystal]

Nah just mentally bricked

[hidden nacelle]

i still ahver thorn/sahs saria etc selectro
have pot4 sash, can red cert royal guard chip do i do it

[wraith sentinel]

I do have enough, it would just leave me with essentially nothing in case I want to buy one of the ops (since I'm not doing that with certificates).

[light latch]

Its 2% redeploy reduction

[raven ermine]

Nope, unless you really like him and want p6 for flex ig
but plenty of other ops would benefit from pots better
And usually you just keep the tokens until something like exu2 p3 comes around, this kind of thing