help

[obtuse obsidian]

Ya

[chrome prawn]

Should i read the side story that are connected to the main story?

[polar hollow]

can someone make the banner prio link here not a tiny url thing? my school chromebook can't open it
thanks in advance

[obtuse obsidian]

You might do some small stuff like adding gravel here and There but should be able to beat 12 13 14

[nimble kite]

It's called Intermezzi, do it so. Seek what is it in wiki.

[polar hollow]

why wat

[reef sparrow]

I suggest you try adverse when clearing first, and switch to standard only if you're stuck

[nimble kite]

It's kinda big alright.

[polar hollow]

what

[abstract mauve]

tiny url is like bit.ly that's used to shorten links

[urban sleet]

Sa2+pram2 banner (if casual you want pram2 more than sa2)
Followed by wang+chen3
Thats it

[nimble kite]

Because Light used # to make text

this big

or what's the problem actually?

[polar hollow]

can someone post the banner prio as an image here pretty please?

[vivid yew]

i hate waiting sanity regen

[tranquil vector]

Do y'all earn yellow certs regularly? Or do you really only get it if you're rolling?

[reef sparrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1-EUreXBiEGVo8boM16dqj24-bHclkneGUja-VIvInig/htmlview#gid=1718909398

idk if this helps

[raven ermine]

The prio is in roadless, just open that instead

[obtuse obsidian]

Recruit passive income help a lot

[urban sleet]

My brother from #strategy surely they can read this

[boreal steeple]

From reruns or from recruitment

[lyric lagoon]

asking too much of en

[obtuse obsidian]

Other then recruit its just rolling banners or rerun events

[opaque remnant]

chen2? or ch3n

[urban sleet]

Ahem

[tranquil vector]

Recruit you would need to get a 5* or someone new tho right?

[boreal steeple]

Chen³

[obtuse obsidian]

Bro deleted one of the chens

[opaque remnant]

I agree

[polar hollow]

it would be amazing but I literally can't open any of the links there (hence #help message)

[lyric lagoon]

must’ve been the wind

[obtuse obsidian]

4 star on max pot give 1 gold cert

[urban sleet]

-# I could delete both tbh and it wouldn't be a big deal

[boreal steeple]

New or maxpot 4☆. Also any pots 5-6☆ ofc but their chances too low

[tranquil vector]

Oh I misread that bottom part. I'm blind

[urban sleet]

@polar hollow

[obtuse obsidian]

How good is chen 3 actually

I know wang is broke but have not seen much of chen

[urban sleet]

You were right

[urban haven]

is leizi alter limited?

[polar hollow]

[reef sparrow]

sorry mate, not today

[obtuse obsidian]

Leizi is standard not limited

[urban sleet]

No but her banner wont rerun cuz vignette event

[lyric lagoon]

one of the best dps in the game

[boreal steeple]

She's available from standard offrate, but she wouldn't rerun as rate up this year

[urban haven]

and also can buy from the selection pack or sumthin?

[sand folio]

Just to be 100% sure, does this mean 10 as the sum of both or does it mean 10 Def or 10 Spec?

[boreal steeple]

Wdym

[rocky pilot]

Do you mean the 6* selector for 30 usd?

[obtuse obsidian]

10 sum of both

[random mountain]

Sum

[urban haven]

you know those packs that worth 30 usd

[urban haven]

this one

[boreal steeple]

Yeah its kinda worth if you're willing to spend money on it

[rocky pilot]

Unless you wait, nope
Currently the 6* selector only let's you select every 6* up until mon3tr

[urban haven]

aight thanks for the response. i read that there will be a pack selector available in half anni maybe i'll skip it if she's bot yet available

[lofty dragon]

nvm i can read

[flint onyx]

Chat. Am I wrong or no?

[urban sleet]

They dont

[nimble kite]

They are just 3 recent old Limited.

[obtuse obsidian]

The 5 off rate is for the last 3 ops of same banner type pretty sure

[flint onyx]

Got it

[boreal steeple]

Leizi alter is not available from there then

[rocky pilot]

Or you know could just
Buy and wait until the selector gets updated, eventually

[waxen flame]

help me 12-18 adverse

[urban haven]

i'll save my money for now and buy when she's available. too bad i missed her banner

[boreal steeple]

Surely not because the game has description until which operator it is
Hoshi2 5☆ voucher haunts me

[urban sleet]

When do we get 5☆ vouchers

[rocky pilot]

Once every year if I am not mistaken

[boreal steeple]

Have a main dmg focus onto crossroads in front of blue box(left side), only at the end maybe some will come closer from the right side but they're kinda easy

[obtuse obsidian]

The general idea is to deploy a tanky op last so they eat the drones bombs.

While using an air dps to murder then, even old shit like a marksman should work

[boreal steeple]

Bigger problem are those 3 block black mechas

Also ranged units can mark civilians so you wont have a problem

[obtuse obsidian]

A defender + caster for those should shred them

Just make sure you dont deploy the blocker next to ranged

[urban haven]

another question. is quibai worth to upgrade if i have silverash and thorns max upgraded?

or between quibai and vina victoria who is worth to upgrade first

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbh would do quibai

She have some is moments and generally better dps then thorn and sa imo, while vina is a lot more nicher

Now if you happen to have sakiko non of them will have any moments but i assume you dont

[waxen flame]

i dont get it

[random kestrel]

yes, qiubai

[waxen flame]

it kills my marksmen like spawning in

[winter crystal]

Vina is not worth building

[urban haven]

yeah, i don't have her. i just cameback from the game so i missed her banner too

[obtuse obsidian]

The drone summon target last deployed withen range, so if the defender is far away or the marksman deployed last they will target the marksman, you can use gravel in case the defenders are away

[nimble kite]

You know how Gravel works?

[humble nova]

wait does mon3tr's construction summon, heal the miners as well?

[nimble kite]

No.

[humble nova]

aw ok

[boreal steeple]

Constuct no, they heal inside medic range

[nimble kite]

Only works as civs being in Monsta range.

Any range really.

[humble nova]

i just figured it might, cuz i thought the summon's range would be like an extension

[hardy bronze]

Should I E2ing asca for next 6star E2?

[winter crystal]

Reedalt or medicmiya will tho

[obtuse obsidian]

I would do ray degen asca in that Order personally but you can skip degen if your damage is good

Also level. Mizuki and get the alpha module (use s2), thats his only usage

[raven ermine]

Ray > degen > asca
Even miksa can be a decent option before asca, her main benefit from e2 are mod and masteries

[winter crystal]

Ray degen asca yeah

Ascalon functions just fine E1 since main skill is S2

[hardy bronze]

Whats the benefits if I E2ing Ray before others?

[winter crystal]

Stop building vigil

[halcyon cloak]

Turns out I have a free E2 upgrade for a 5 star, which of these characters would be the most worthwhile? or should I just hold onto it for someone else as I have a ton I haven’t invested in at all too

[raven ermine]

Her main skill is s3
Big st target damage

[winter crystal]

Huge single target damage

[obtuse obsidian]

Ray have really high damage per hit and root her target on low cycle.

Really good for many bosses or strong elites

[undone wren]

Is it worth e2 irene just for her base skill?

[raven ermine]

those are all e1, so it's not the best value, show us your unraised 5* instead

[humble nova]

is haruka enough to tank these bozos

[obtuse obsidian]

No

[raven ermine]

e2 her for her upcoming IS mod instead

[nimble kite]

Not with Commander being alive and, without him, not so sure either.

[winter crystal]

Do you have provi Shamare or tequila E2?

[subtle dawn]

What level should ur units be to comfortably do the conflict zone skirmish in RA? I'm struggling a lot on it and my units are around e1 lvl 50

[nimble kite]

X5 hit and big damage does the difference.

[undone wren]

So e2 her is worth it?

[hardy bronze]

Then, I don't need to E2ing Ray if I had Em here?

[obtuse obsidian]

Its much better to nuke them from range or bait then trying to tank them

Unless you nuke commandars

[raven ermine]

Assuming you don't have better things to raise currently
Which is a bit hard to say without roster

[obtuse obsidian]

Would still e2 ray here

[halcyon cloak]

Oh wait does it bring one from unraised straight to E2? That’s sick then

These are all my unraised 5 stars

[pearl phoenix]

just use Hoshiguma E2 Skill 2

[undone wren]

https://www.krooster.com/u/vyntage777

[opaque remnant]

just use krooster m8

[obtuse obsidian]

Do you have an agent raised?canta pretty great if you dont

[winter crystal]

Shamare then tequila (I didn’t see provi)

[hardy bronze]

Hmmm
So, Ray is so powerful yeah...

[halcyon cloak]

I think she released after I stopped playing

[halcyon cloak]

An agent?

[raven ermine]

Using it on shamare for base is a good option
Greyy2, kroos2, cantabile are all good IS drafts depending on situation

[winter crystal]

When you get provi E2 her asap in the mean time E2 Shamare with ticket then manually E2 tequila and work on your base slaves

[obtuse obsidian]

Ines surfer canta archtype

[pearl phoenix]

Vanguard Agent

[halcyon cloak]

Based thank you

[obtuse obsidian]

Of course if you have ines raised you can scrap raising canta

[halcyon cloak]

Oh lol
Bagpipe, Saga and Mytle are the main vanguads I use

[winter crystal]

The rest they recommended can come after imo, like agents and IS picks like greyy etc

[pearl phoenix]

do you have Ines?

[halcyon cloak]

Don’t believe so no

[pearl phoenix]

Like this person said, Agent Archtype is good

[hardy bronze]

Why Greyy2 is needed in IS in some stage?

[raven ermine]

Raise your baseslaves before anything else
#bot-spam /baseskills
Provi e2 without vermeil/shira etc e1 is kinda crazy
Then sure, you can raise irene, but she's somewhat low value for your account outside of IS, and her mod is supposed to release with wang so it's not rn

[severe crypt]

Only really used in is5 due to a really strong hand relic

[halcyon cloak]

Oh wait ok I was confused by Agent

Looking up the list of them I don’t think I have any tbh -w-

[winter crystal]

He’s a good pick up bc flinger good in IS5 not needed or as good as ros or Wis but doesn’t cost as much hope

[severe crypt]

Not even surfer or cantabile?

[raven ermine]

Decent unit, cheap draft, scales well with aspd/relics, and has slow

[severe crypt]

Wait you do have cantabile

[hardy bronze]

I see 🗿

[halcyon cloak]

I haven’t really played for years

Actively played until Skadi Alter’s banner and was just on and off after that for a while coming back for operators I wanted

If these are event operators or even 4 stars I likely wouldn’t if they were released past Skadi Alter

[raven ermine]

you have cantabile
She's not a priority for you when shamare is there
If you don't care about base, it's between canta/greyy/krooster

[boreal steeple]

S3 can be extwnsion

[halcyon cloak]

Oh oki based I missed that lmao

I’ll prolly build Shamare then if she’s that good

[winter crystal]

Definitely canta first imo, you should have at least passible damage for Gen content if you played that long (base slaves first before all else tho)

[halcyon cloak]

Admittedly most my 5 stars haven’t been touched as most my resources have been taken up by the 6 stars

[raven ermine]

Just use the voucher on her and e2 your tequila yeah
Check the base combo in #r-i-i-c pins, and make sure you slot them in the right order for your tp

[boreal steeple]

If high hp pool

[halcyon cloak]

aight thank you all
It has been done

[hardy bronze]

Is Poncirus good for dp printing?

Matsukiri?

[severe crypt]

Before you spend any resources, what are all your vgs looking like

[hardy bronze]

Just ignore vigil 🗿

[severe crypt]

I uhh was asking the other guy 🥹

[nimble kite]

You have Texas already for that. Use Canta mostly tho.

[halcyon cloak]

I may be stupid….

[severe crypt]

Not the stupidest blunder in #help

[winter crystal]

What are you planning with 7 built vanguards

[lunar apex]

vgknights

[raven ermine]

You just build units, what else are you gonna do

[halcyon cloak]

I mean, fun to use different units lol

[nimble kite]

No Puzzle and Sail. Joever. He won't pass CW-S-3-A.

[severe crypt]

Annex Croatia

[hardy bronze]

I'll do the 5* later because there some 6* need to build at first

[boreal steeple]

And main dps is mumu

[stoic mango]

When is silver ash alter ?

[boreal steeple]

Soon

[halcyon cloak]

IMO I’d def build Myrtle

Unless somethings changed significantly since I stopped playing her value is insane

[raven ermine]

Even more of a need for manpower then

[severe crypt]

Imma be honest they don’t need Myrtle

[stoic mango]

Ohh myy FU- GAWDDDD AM GOING TO GET A PTSD FROM YOUUUU 😭😭😭😭😭

[halcyon cloak]

Really? Honestly I bring her everywhere -w-

[winter crystal]

Agents are in the game now

[nimble kite]

...chill bro.

[stoic mango]

Ok

[halcyon cloak]

I still don’t know what they do lmao

[boreal steeple]

Stay tuned #game-news .
/cnbanner #bot-spam if you're impatient enough, we don't follow cn schedule

[raven ermine]

Not really
Her masteries are relatively cheap and you already e2'd her, so if you use her often you can s1m3
But it's nothing insane, just a "comfort" pick

[stoic mango]

Ok thx

[severe crypt]

Think of what chargers should have been, fast rdp, dp on hit, proper lane holding capabilities

[halcyon cloak]

She’s M6 on my account lmao

[winter crystal]

Generate dp by attacking enemies

[sacred cave]

Are the farmable materials of an event released beforehand? If so where can I find the same

[halcyon cloak]

Sounds like I definitely want some then

[stoic mango]

Is mrytle good ?

[boreal steeple]

/material or /cnfarm in #bot-spam

[raven ermine]

Oh well 🥹

[halcyon cloak]

Well she at least was
Apparently less so now but back in the day she was amazing

[stoic mango]

Ahh i see

[boreal steeple]

Decent vg, agents or other flags are better or strategists

[halcyon cloak]

Those resources were invested years ago lol dw

I got my value with her

[rain forge]

Surfer mogs myrtle in every single way possible

[raven ermine]

She's just printing dp
The issue is that printing dp isn't that needed, and agents are doing that, and more

[abstract mauve]

agents kinda boooo tho

[severe crypt]

And even among flags Myrtle is the worst

[rain forge]

for annihilation stages you’d rather just use a pioneer or smth

[abstract mauve]

strategist stealing their jobs

[stoic mango]

How dare you

[rain forge]

🤫

[raven ermine]

Strategist shill

[halcyon cloak]

Flags being mid now is honestly an insane thing I didn’t expect coming back

Rip my M6 Myrtle and M6 Elysium

[abstract mauve]

[severe crypt]

Nah it’s cuz shields best agent for the niche is a twink

[stoic mango]

How dare you the draw guy from uhhh forgor the name 🥀

[boreal steeple]

They have better dp gen idc

[rain forge]

what’s sash2’s main skill again for gen content

[boreal steeple]

S2

[winter carbon]

Dude I just came back after a few years. Reading this convo makes my brain hurt. When did Myrtle become garbo 😬

[abstract mauve]

s3

[halcyon cloak]

Genuinely
She was like SSS+ tier back in the day

[raven ermine]

When players realized printing dp isn't needed for general content, and that myrtle offer nothing in high end content

[halcyon cloak]

Next y’all will tell me base Ch’en actually became good

I 90’d her out of dedication not utility lmao

[severe crypt]

That’s not to say she’s the bottom of the barrel for vg, but that’s mainly half of them genuinely suuuuck

[abstract mauve]

base chen still ass. main use is getting trust for chen3

[lunar apex]

does he knows ?

[boreal steeple]

She's in nichenights, not really

[halcyon cloak]

Tragic but I do enjoy a nuke

[winter carbon]

Wait. So what vgs are people using now

[severe crypt]

Ines sash2

[halcyon cloak]

I still use Ch’en because she’s fun lmao

Nuke go brrrrrr

[rain forge]

aight

[severe crypt]

I personally run Ines vulpis, but Ines solo is more than enough for like 95% of stages

[stoic mango]

Ines the goat

[rocky pilot]

How much times do I need to press a op from 0 to 200 trust again

[abstract mauve]

both s2 and s3 work just that s3 is the more cozy option

[obtuse obsidian]

Hey she will be used in chenknights.

We just need few more chens

[rain forge]

I don’t think that interacting with them gives trust

[halcyon cloak]

Y’all do I M9

[rocky pilot]

No I mean every trust tap

[winter carbon]

That’s not ines don’t have her lol

[abstract mauve]

pot 6 mod 6 or no balls

[rain forge]

oh that

depends

[boreal steeple]

Canta, surfer, ines
Sash2 soon, matsukiri was free couple months ago
Also wanqing in record restoration soon

[raven ermine]

ines/sash2/vulpis for 6* options
canta/surfer/matsukiri for 5* options
Fang/noir corne for newbies

[untold dawn]

I'm assuming the best value here is the crate right?

[halcyon cloak]

Is Saria still goated like she used to be?
Same as Murdock

Surely those didn’t become mid

[raven ermine]

Myrtle is also fine for a newbie account
We just recommend them to keep her e1 lv1 sl7, she'll handle the dp printing fine enough

[rain forge]

Mid and dogshit

[winter carbon]

Welp. Guess I’ll up my canta then.

[boreal steeple]

She's mid, there's a ton better options tho
And mudrock is dogshit

[stoic mango]

I used mudrock to cheese the chapter that has arttillary

[obtuse obsidian]

Saria is fine starter unit but like she get powercrept to obilivion

Mudrock have it worst

[raven ermine]

Bad and bad
Saria has a niche at least
Mudrock is in the gutter

[halcyon cloak]

I genuinely don’t believe that Mudrock became dogshit lmao

I could see Saria being powercrept though

[severe crypt]

Let’s just say what people would wanna use in 2026 wouldn’t be what you’d use in 2020 🥹

[winter carbon]

That… also hurts my soul

[raven ermine]

Well mudrock has a niche too, but you're not likely to ever need ts

[rain forge]

Why can’t people accept that their favorite waifu is bad smh my head

[winter carbon]

What are we thinking about for Penance

[severe crypt]

Better but also mid

[obtuse obsidian]

Unironcally normie defender like og hoshi hav more usage then mudrock nowa days

[stoic mango]

Ehhhhhhh judge goo brrr

[rain forge]

hoshi1 was revived by 16-12

[halcyon cloak]

Ok I mean… surely Surtr and Kal’tsit are still good

[severe crypt]

Legit the best juggernaut is Necrass s3

[rocky pilot]

I can confirm

[rain forge]

Surtr mid kaltsit good for is5, otherwise she’s mid

[obtuse obsidian]

Mudrock VS the bear will be an epic battle that last 4 seconds

[ancient lintel]

surtr got homeless due to the existence of hoshi2 now

[stoic mango]

Sutr good ||if you have the balls to make her immortal ||

[raven ermine]

Surtr is still fine-ish
Module helped her a bit to not be that irrelevant
Kaltsit has been saved by IS module

[wanton meadow]

I wouldn't call surtr bad but she's definitely distinctly last gen

[severe crypt]

Let’s not shill Surtr hospital

[stoic mango]

Okay

[humble nova]

can I helidrop haruka's s3 for the bear? can he be levitated? in H16-4

[ancient lintel]

It'll last like 20 seconds if you use s3 but ye

[halcyon cloak]

Screw it these are all my 6 stars

Which are even still good

[nimble kite]

Yes and you can cancel his attacks that way.

[ancient lintel]

sash

[severe crypt]

Yeah you got the 1965 mustang of accounts

[humble nova]

bet that

[rain forge]

Chen2 is alright and virtuosa is decent

[halcyon cloak]

Not surprised lmao I haven’t touched it in a very long time

[obtuse obsidian]

Most people dont know s3 exist 🤫

[ancient lintel]

I mean sash and ceobe still holds up I guess? rosmo got saved by her alpha mod

[severe crypt]

I mean you can still complete content, but getting a 2026 unit would help that account

[rain forge]

Ling uh is starting to fall off

[obtuse obsidian]

Mudrock only hope atm is getting alpha module of same power level as mizuki one

[halcyon cloak]

Glad to hear Ch’en 2 is still good at least

Guess Virtuosa will be the next 6 star I invest in then

[stoic mango]

Just make her a walking fortress

[wanton meadow]

Ceobe ifrit angelina nightingale weedy still see use, but realistically this roster will still destroy general content

[raven ermine]

mod2 surtr
IS mod3 kaltsit/rosmo/archetto/ange
modx3 ceobe
Sash mod3

[rocky pilot]

Mudrock now uses her rocks by spawning them

[halcyon cloak]

Well I fully cleared the current annihilation so at least it’s still useable

I’ll pull on the alt SilverAsh banner and Ch3n too

[obtuse obsidian]

Year 1 6 stars still kinda over kill tbh

[wanton meadow]

Don't worry about not having the newest and best, you realistically would still have no issues with anything but highend content

[halcyon cloak]

Honestly I maxed base Ch’en when she was already bad so it’s not like I’m new to using mid characters

[stoic mango]

I heard we getting a monster hunter collab ?

[obtuse obsidian]

Its just newer 6 stars are way bigger overkill

[urban sleet]

We had a teaser 2 weeks ago but thats it, no info since then

[stoic mango]

[halcyon cloak]

[raven ermine]

Your roster is a bit outdated, but powercreep is relatively mild in arknight
You won't have any issues in gen content, nothing is roster gated

[obtuse obsidian]

Did not we have destiny collab that vanished some few years ago

[stoic mango]

They forgot

[obtuse obsidian]

The main reason powercreep is unnoticed is cause hg build stages to be beaten with easy to get ops

And easy to get ops dont get power crept

[rain forge]

what abt virtuosa

Isn’t she considered decent

[halcyon cloak]

Aight cool lol

I used to play both Genshin and Honkai Star Rail too and those genuinely made content feel unplayable with old characters like Hu Tao

I fully expected there to be better powercrept units honestly it happens it’s the only way to make people keep spending money

I’m just surprised some of the completely broken characters like Surtr were crept that badly

[obtuse obsidian]

Power creep only really happen in 6 stars 🤫

[raven ermine]

Nope virtuosa is hot garbage

[wanton meadow]

Isn't she kinda clunky

[rain forge]

[halcyon cloak]

This makes me cry hearing she’s mid now

[obtuse obsidian]

Mid 6 star is still broken

[nimble kite]

Mostly dead than alive.

You will remember her when you see very tanky mobs at DEF, RES, DR or some, but very low HP instead.

[rain forge]

breaking news your iphone 7 is bad compared to the iphone 16

[raven ermine]

She's still decent, just not on par with new top units

[stoic mango]

I mean shes usable if you do t ahve any other option

[halcyon cloak]

The reason Surtr specifically gets me is I remember when she was released she was so far above anything else the game had seen at that point lol

[winter carbon]

When’s the sash2 banner? In two weeks or are we looking at next month?

[rain forge]

Someone pull up that gif of surtr on the skill book apply stage

[obtuse obsidian]

CC sometimes have those

Other places like is bloat hp instead

[urban sleet]

We cant speculate the date

[nimble kite]

Stay tuned.

[halcyon cloak]

I literally just 90’d her too upon returning

[stoic mango]

If i recall some one said around april

[ancient lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-just-use-surtr-gif-24975177

[rain forge]

[stoic mango]

After old hot hag banner whats next gain ???

[urban sleet]

Let me bomb you with rule 5

[wanton meadow]

Welp bouta be bonked by a mod

[winter carbon]

[rain forge]

gulp

[raven ermine]

Yeah i get that
Outside of hard content, where some units can be core you won't have any issues
You'll be able to claim rewards every single time without trouble
The only contents you'll have trouble with are basically 'bragging rights" content, and even then, you have a few good units for IS like ange/kal/chetto so you're not that far off

[waxen dove]

which pack provides the best worth

[obtuse obsidian]

Monthly sub

[nimble kite]

Monthly Pass.

[stoic mango]

Oh no i cant be bomb again i was allready bombed by iran last night

[waxen dove]

i meant as in yknow those anniv packs which give you lots of orundums and shit

[halcyon cloak]

It’s funny to me that a lot of the units being called good were kinda just alright back in the day

[ancient lintel]

okay that's going a little bit too far, mods might bonk u ngl

[urban sleet]

IS modules saved them

[stoic mango]

My friend lives near by so if he gets bomb i get bomb

[boreal steeple]

Mizuki still eating

[stoic mango]

He like my twin gng ✌️

[urban sleet]

Kal is another case where while she fell of in general her IS mod is keeping her alive

[halcyon cloak]

They’ll release a new module for base Ch’en that makes her nuke guaranteed to 1 shot any enemy trust me

[short steppe]

[raven ermine]

IS modules played a big part in that, but it's in a specific environment

[stoic mango]

Nah she getting an alter instead

[lyric lagoon]

that’s called ch3n

[ancient lintel]

she needs an alpha mod ngl

[halcyon cloak]

Why not both

[urban sleet]

Cheeto powercreep potential fr

[stoic mango]

Then thats not cannon

[obtuse obsidian]

Is module add a billion shit

Sometimes those billion shit break an op like miz

Sometimes its a billion extra garbage like dusk

[lyric lagoon]

cheeto but ground

[rain forge]

[wanton meadow]

Offensive recovery is eternal, long live cheeto

[halcyon cloak]

Well… it’s ok my account can have Ch’en at lv90 3 times over we can do this

[spark moat]

when you exchange clues in the base does it line the people after your starred w/ the ones who recently sent you clues?

[stoic mango]

When they adding malentha alter

[winter crystal]

Kroos

[wanton meadow]

God kroos is eternal

If she had access to e2 stats i wouldn't be surprised if she'd still be better than most 5* aa snipers

[obtuse obsidian]

Cope the mh collab v2

Like i do with durin

[lyric lagoon]

anybody but mostima alt

[urban sleet]

Mostima alt is a pretty big cope corporation

Or a coperation

[stoic mango]

Kyostin about to get n upgrade if it does happens 🥀

[urban sleet]

There's shining alter too for those who follow the lore

[halcyon cloak]

How is Manticore these days?

[stoic mango]

I have not heard thst name since the dark ages

[urban sleet]

I am pretty sure she has always been a 5☆knights thing, nothing good in general

[obtuse obsidian]

Bro we been coping that since nearl alter

We should let it go at this point

[median fable]

idk if even 5* only use her

[stoic mango]

Just watch next alter is going to be spot 😭

[obtuse obsidian]

She have no usage nowa days between ascalon existing and ethan being better budget pick in is

[urban sleet]

bengal told me they do, not like I watch 5☆knights much either

[wanton meadow]

And mizuki being an IS powerhouse

[halcyon cloak]

She has usage in my heart

[stoic mango]

I used to think mizukinwas a woman

[obtuse obsidian]

Ascalon talent is stronger then manti entire kit

[halcyon cloak]

Worlds only Manticore user

[median fable]

don't blog here mate

[urban sleet]

Not even maxed out smh

[stoic mango]

OMG ITS THE GUY FROM LIBARY OF RUINA

[obtuse obsidian]

Weak investment

I invested more into a karira

[halcyon cloak]

Ch’en ate those resources

[stoic mango]

get module or NO balls

[boreal steeple]

Its lob corp

[lyric lagoon]

soft armpit jellyfish

[halcyon cloak]

I only found out what modules even are a few hours ago

[stoic mango]

Mb gng my memory very bad am vry sorry i shall not inflict my shall with 99 stack of burn 🔥

[urban sleet]

Did we get any updates on ursus sidestory on cn after that x post?

[stoic mango]

Me no gib fahs you either et them now or am taking your house and walls and no balls

[stoic mango]

True so true

[urban sleet]

So I have more time to cope for playable talulah, nice

[halcyon cloak]

Oh yeah genuine question how tf do you beat stage 16-16 of the current event

[median fable]

don't leak

[boreal steeple]

Burst phase 1. Survive phase 2 by having medics

[urban sleet]

By reading boss mechanics
Phase 1 is the main thing, or rather every 4th attack
Otherwise boss gets cardied by stage mechanica more than her own mechanics

[stoic mango]

Thats the neat part you dont you become the stage embrace the stage through the patchesh of black mist you become one

[median fable]

be more specific and tell us your team and where you are failing
#strategy is the best place to ask for specific stage clears

[pseudo flume]

Invis Reveal and Burst Dmg

[wanton meadow]

Bait the dominion shots with frd, burst the boss down, careful about being ganged up by multiple fort breakers

[stoic mango]

Btw are exicutioners stillhave a good rep ?

[halcyon cloak]

I might be too stupid for this

[rain forge]

executioners?

[stoic mango]

Mb am to poor to afford the letter E apollochees

[median fable]

rep?

[rain forge]

what the hell is an executioner

do you mean executors?

[urban sleet]

Phantom is dead, texas2 is something you raise when not meta-stacked
Only yato alter is good
And gravel is eternal ofc

[stoic mango]

Yes mb 🥀

[median fable]

texas2 is overhated, she just suck in hard content and you need to use s2 over s3

[stoic mango]

Ah i see

[wanton meadow]

Forgor 2* yato

[rain forge]

crownslayer w/ mody is alright, gravel is the eternal sacrifice and yato alter is good

sexas is a bit washed

[boreal steeple]

She's vg not specialist

[rain forge]

she’s a vanguard 🤫

[lunar apex]

works like temu frd tho

[wanton meadow]

That's why there's a strikethrough there, that's the joke

[stoic mango]

well she needs to get washed tho she kinda getting dirty from all texas X lappland yuri so yeah

[boreal steeple]

Yes by executing yato

[stoic mango]

Dont judge me

Oh i forgot to do my dailes 💀

[shrewd peak]

This is your last chance

[halcyon cloak]

Ok ngl I still can’t wrap Mudrock being bad around my brain -w-

[shrewd peak]

Mudrock is not bad

[frozen dawn]

who said shes bad

[safe tundra]

almost everyone

[frozen dawn]

kill everyone

[median fable]

sometimes people here lack nuance and they put an operator either in bad or good. She's just below average, bad should be reserved for things like Vigil, Lessing &co

[frozen dawn]

😭 "things"

[wanton meadow]

I thought vigil is kinda ok with module, just way too expensive for what he brings?

[median fable]

man, if Vigil is ok wiht module I think we should start calling Vivi with mod meta

[halcyon cloak]

I don’t think I’ll never stop enjoying using Mudrock

The sound she makes with her skill is so satisfying

[shrewd peak]

You can make any 6* operator work if you try hard enough, they are by definition not weak

[median fable]

we don't care about this

[shrewd peak]

The lower the rarity the more you will find operators that are almost impossible to make work of

[halcyon cloak]

Passenger even?

[shrewd peak]

Passenger deals like 10 times the dps of any low rarity caster

[median fable]

if you want to use someone so much use it, you still have 11 other slots and if you fail it's because of skill issue

[wanton meadow]

Passenger is p good for RA ngl

[halcyon cloak]

I remember he was like the worst 6 star at release lmao

[median fable]

meta units just make the game easier and require you to use less brain to complete the stage, as long you have the brain you can even play 4* only

[shrewd peak]

Not being a top tier operator = Being trash is normally what people take out when you say an operator is not very good

[median fable]

he never was

[halcyon cloak]

3 star only Talulah run when

[shrewd peak]

Passenger was one of the worst if not the worst operator on launch but that was 4 years ago and things changed

Well 6* operator

[abstract mauve]

he was definitely one of tho

[shrewd peak]

They will perform above lower rarities any day of the week, this is just what people don't understand

[pseudo flume]

Bad investment ✅
Not Bad but Average ✅

[wanton meadow]

Tbf AK is like 50% resource management game so investments that aren't efficient could be considered inherently bad

[median fable]

there were worse ops

[abstract mauve]

ye that's why we dont recommend lumen for example

[shrewd peak]

It only matters if you are a new player which is what the advice here is tailored to
but then you get to a point where decent operators are called useless trash for some reason

[median fable]

there is already one btw

[shrewd peak]

Discretion is welcome

[pseudo flume]

Its basically just trying to get the best results with the least cost

[abstract mauve]

worse 6*s existed but you definitely had to be a special type of bad to cause a rework to your class after release and invent the module system

[light latch]

Wasnt there that whole thing with passenger’s s3 aoe not even being able to clear the slug showcase or something on release

[halcyon cloak]

I guess that makes sense
Mines already M6 so no reason to not use her

[shrewd peak]

it's because his skill is not true aoe

[median fable]

there is if you pull better ops
but you do you

[pseudo flume]

I mean people think mid = dogshit

[shrewd peak]

That is the problem being talked about here

[median fable]

people started calling texas2 "bad"

[pseudo flume]

We all know that mid means not bad nor good in the original intent

[pseudo flume]

Shes pretty good in gen content but people are getting swayed by what they are parroting from the IS Sweats

[abstract mauve]

i consider her mid tbh. mid as in middling not mid as in bad

[shrewd peak]

IS talk is always the source of most problems in this channel

[winter crystal]

Speeds up enemies instead of slowing them down

[raven ermine]

It does play a role for sure

[light latch]

overly high representation by ppl who use max risk CC and IS D18 as their measuring stick

[median fable]

she's good, she just lost her top spot

[opaque remnant]

top spot is trag I assume?

[wanton meadow]

I think a terminology definition is in order

[pseudo flume]

Ig people are trying to only invest in ops that can work in Gen and Hard Content at the same time

[shrewd peak]

Texas is not a top 12 operator anymore which means if you have all the best operators in the game you are not going to use her

[raven ermine]

The comparison would be trag s2/yato2 usually yes

[wanton meadow]

Good/bad is a standard that nobody sees equally

[abstract mauve]

i wouldnt call her good. i might be a bit biased against her cuz i dont like frd spam playstyle. maybe once she gets her deployment cost reduction mod

[shrewd peak]

Texas is good she does all the things she used to do which made her a top tier operator

[halcyon cloak]

I’m pretty curious what would now be the least redeemable worst 6 star operator in the game now these days

[obtuse obsidian]

Probably still siege

[wanton meadow]

Idk carnelian or smth

[abstract mauve]

not what i meant. i'd use decent operators over texas2. imagine decent being like narantuya and mantra

[light latch]

Carnelian is a good candidate

[halcyon cloak]

Damn that’s tragic

I have both of those built

[winter crystal]

At least siege can block dogs

[abstract mauve]

below decent is just average or "mid"

[pseudo flume]

Hellagur, Siege

[coarse notch]

texalter is good because she wheelchair crutches your minor mistakes that should have been avoided in gen content

[halcyon cloak]

Nooooo I love Hellagur

[obtuse obsidian]

I raise every 6 star so i have most garbage 6 stars raised

[shrewd peak]

Mantra or narantuya are not covering whatever use you would have for texas in a team so i don't know what to put on with this

[limpid yarrow]

but gen content
kicked out of super big cup in the big 2026 for cc

[pseudo flume]

Zuo Le is the superior Musha

[shrewd peak]

If you have a team of operators that have better performance than her then you won't use her, it is that simple

[gusty star]

Hello chat

[abstract mauve]

they dont have to cover the same role. im not bringing tex2 in any team over a generic decent operator

[gusty star]

I wanna ask if elysium 2nd skill is good whit wisandel.

[shrewd peak]

Maybe thats because your operator quality is very high, have you considered that

[halcyon cloak]

M3 Siege
M3 Carnellian
E2 60 Hellagur with the skin

[pseudo flume]

Unnecessary

[median fable]

don't bother

[obtuse obsidian]

Wis wont need any skill

But its still decent skill overrall to stall while getting dp

[gusty star]

Eh why?

I thought it buff archer class that is made out od archery

[raven ermine]

It is what it is, as satori said, you can compare those with lower rarities and they'll work fine
They are that bad when put in competition with other 6*

[shrewd peak]

Wisadel doesnt really care about the defense shred if you are using her against so high defense enemies you may as well pick something else

[pseudo flume]

The same reason why buffers aren't used

[shrewd peak]

The asdp buff is quite minor too she's bullet based so it wont increase total damage

[winter crystal]

sad monster noises

[wanton meadow]

It's not gonna be useful for content that statchecks her but is overkill/pointless for content that doesn't

[pseudo flume]

Just bring another dps at that point

[light latch]

She doesnt get much from elysium that she cares about

[gusty star]

Oh

[coarse notch]

arent yall agreeing
you dont need overlapping niches to eject an operator from the team
obviously if an account has no one better, then you recommend they build who they have to the best of their ability

[pseudo flume]

She can heal 4 ops at a time so she doesn't count as much

[gusty star]

Soo basically debuffer is better than buffer?

[abstract mauve]

thats kinda the point. i wont use tex2 over decent operators so i dont consider her decent. that's kinda where my criticism of her ends

[obtuse obsidian]

No they saying Ditch both and add another dps

[shrewd peak]

All i said is that she is a good operator but by his same perspective she isn't some nothing burger help semantics argument

[pseudo flume]

Both of them are in same case of being unnecessary

[mighty parcel]

silverash alter/pranamix alter banner when?

[gusty star]

Oh

[winter crystal]

Yeah but is also main reason you pick her over Haruka for most content. But yeah also the buffs are just added bonuses to the healing

[obtuse obsidian]

Unknown

[median fable]

yeah, but calling Texas2 mid is a bit too much
there is barely anything she doesn't kill (boss excluded) and only reason you won't use her is because you have better options like yato2 or trag

[wanton meadow]

If you look at it from another angle you use tex2 as a cutoff standard for decent operators?

[mighty parcel]

whats the estimate date?

[rain forge]

what’s even going on

[gusty star]

In the car future

[abstract mauve]

that's one way of looking at it

[obtuse obsidian]

Before 2026 end

[pseudo flume]

Are we getting MonHun Rerun in CN now or what?

[light latch]

Semantics argument about definition of mid

[raven ermine]

If we answer that, we explode, speculation isn't allowed here
Should be soon enough

[shrewd peak]

No new announcements, wait for news

[abstract mauve]

isnt new side story first?

[median fable]

like, if Texas2 is mid there are barely operators who can be called good atp
and atp the conversation should go towards "what is a good/mid/bad operator" and it's semantics all over again

[mighty parcel]

okay fair

[obtuse obsidian]

They can always pull a new destiny

[pseudo flume]

Buns

[pseudo flume]

🥹

[coarse notch]

seems kinda pointless to debate this when its realistically never gonna be useful
will the account find texalter useful - rec build
is it too advanced to really care for texalter - dont rec build

[wanton meadow]

I mean there might be differences in semantics but i think i understand the point, it's a p interesting idea to think of an op slot with "is this op a better slot-in over a panic button"

[abstract mauve]

ye

[obtuse obsidian]

Why are you guys just repeating same shit just move on

[gusty star]

Is manticore attack make the fan on icebreaker work?

[median fable]

this is like true for all operator raising recommendations, only some of them are "build it without needing further context"

[abstract mauve]

someone said that tex2 is good tho and i think they are mistaken :realmad:

[gusty star]

Also whats whit grandma snake is she good?

[shrewd peak]

Shes decent

It's hard to justify an operator who is logos but a bit worse when you can use logos

[median fable]

above average, just use better ops if you can

[raven ermine]

She has an higher ceiling than logos depending on conditions, but that's quite situational

[shrewd peak]

Which makes it not very relevant

[coarse notch]

logos is getting carted to the retirement home in a month anyways 🗣️

[shrewd peak]

General content woman taking logos to low income housing

[mighty parcel]

is there a non 4 star guaranteed tag (4 star: fast redeploy, support etc) combo that guarantees a 4 star in recruitment?

[median fable]

too situational imo
her s3 without Trag is just a couple of big booms in some contexts and that's it, she sits there for the rest of 70s waiting for next big boom 🥹

[obtuse obsidian]

Slow guard
Slow melee
Theres some 5 star ones too like dps defender or defense guard

[urban sleet]

#bot-spam message

[gusty star]

Yeah they have some
Combo try use
/rectags on #bot-spam

[median fable]

her s2 is nice, but there is some competition

[opaque remnant]

are some archetypes just cursed, primal caster, earthshakers, etc

[wanton meadow]

Ngl really like how nice the s2 cycle is

[shrewd peak]

It's not about the archetype being cursed it's about the operators not being overtunned

Archetype never stopped hg from making a disgustinly overpowered creature

[median fable]

nymph on release was not cursed, her s2 had a nice niche
we now have trag but still

[brazen gulch]

blaze2 slander will not be tolerated on my watch 🥲

[shrewd peak]

If they tripled titis numbers maybe she would be more talked about than wang

[median fable]

what if they tripled Wang numbers

[shrewd peak]

Then the game would end

[wanton meadow]

Triple wang's number but triple the required apm for optimal gameplay

[raven ermine]

Take it from the blaze2 shill, the archetype isn't cursed, but the unit isn't good

[brazen gulch]

what exactly do we mean by good, good compared to logos or ?

[coarse notch]

blaze2 is really good at getting stabbed in the face

[shrewd peak]

arts damage went from not being very good to a dozen of overtunned units in the span of 2 years

[median fable]

blaze2 has seen more CC clears than wisadel btw

[wanton meadow]

Well that's cos wis is an accessibility option

[obtuse obsidian]

All what they needed is to give up and power creep eyja for that to happen

[median fable]

used in cccb3 "meme" clear
used in ccb4 for elem team before they optimized the clear
more than Wisadel 🥹

[limpid yarrow]

both 0 tops it’s all the same

[raven ermine]

I mean depend on you for where you put the bar

[limpid yarrow]

but if you’re talking about pure cc max risk logos isn’t even like top 30 anymore

[grizzled galleon]

I tried but my sakiko feels so much weaker for some reason

[limpid yarrow]

luckily no one plays max risk cc and we don’t know when the next one is

[boreal steeple]

It's mod3, s3m3 and lvl 90

[grizzled galleon]

Damn

[boreal steeple]

Borrow wisadel, it makes much easier

[wanton meadow]

Surely lv90 isn't necessary (idk it's low op so it might be but surely not)

[urban sleet]

They arent going to do it low op dw

[carmine trout]

hi is there a pin for base partners etc

[raven ermine]

She does lack util, don't have a lot of damage on her own, rely on other ops for her best potential
Sure she has the talent 2, sure it was used, but that's more of a gimmick than something relevant in a lot of cases
11k t1 procs on burn is funny tho, but that's not getting her out of general content

[raven ermine]

#r-i-i-c pins

[pale tapir]

#r-i-i-c pins base teams combos guide

[urban sleet]

#r-i-i-c pins or /baseskill in #bot-spam

[grizzled galleon]

This is the team in using but the main problem is cost in second part

[carmine trout]

sankyuuu

[urban sleet]

E0 red

[grizzled galleon]

Should I place wisadel down instead of sakiko for boss?

[rain forge]

show us your entire roster via krooster and dont use projekt red

[opaque remnant]

is 3 healers really needed-

[wanton meadow]

If dp is an issue I'm sure you can manage to slot in myrtle

[boreal steeple]

Hm, you need to place sakiko and ptilo with ansel at the start, then you dps yurodstvo at the top right, and then finish off with wisadel at left side

[opaque remnant]

there is not a single vanguard

[light latch]

no vanguard
dp issues
checks out

[wanton meadow]

Also idk why but with this lineup I'm probably more worried about this guy being mogged by the fortbreakers than the boss

[icy condor]

Should I do a few pulls on upcoming icebreaker banner? (Degen, Lemuen, Ho'olyeak, and Narantuya), I don't have any other snipers beside Ray but I do have ops like Logos, Lapp2, and Eyja1 for ranged

[halcyon cloak]

What date is the SA2 banner? Can’t seem to find it

[icy condor]

No dates

[boreal steeple]

No official date yet

[opaque remnant]

no specific date, just soon enough

[brazen gulch]

well for my account blaze2 is the bar though there are obviously more powerful casters out there. i m9 mod3'd her and genuinely have zero regrets, i've been even having success with her in IS, even at low investment she singlehandedly solved all of my caster needs from the account creation (i started playing on the blaze banner). i would certainly see how she falls off compared to some other casters, but she's at least on the higher end when it comes to the full roster

[halcyon cloak]

Ah fair

[carmine trout]

soon™

[icy condor]

do u have myrtle?

[halcyon cloak]

I’ll just save my pulls lol

[boreal steeple]

If you have logos and lapp2 you don't need rolling unless you have a ton of pulls

[urban sleet]

Ray is good enough for your boss killer needs, while more would be welcome lemuen is only a 25% chance
Hool is omega niche and bad otherwise
Narantuya good
Degen decent

That said limited banner has higher priority

[icy condor]

only have 50 pulls in all honesty

[carmine trout]

whos the red haired twink sui sibling btw is he limited

[light latch]

Why is melantha even in the squad

[grizzled galleon]

Ye

[boreal steeple]

Phase 1

[carmine trout]

he's soo cute i need him

[median fable]

m9 is lowkey schizo, there is barely anyone worth that much investment

[icy condor]

Okayy, noted

[urban sleet]

Wtf go grind dont get caught lacking by salter+pramter

[grizzled galleon]

Don’t got a krooster yet should I use the import

[boreal steeple]

Save for sa2

[median fable]

I'm all-in for recommending blaze2 to newbies who obv lack better options, but you kinda pushed it too far for her

[grizzled galleon]

Probably not but helps

[icy condor]

I've been busy with exams man Didn't have too much time to play the game... But I've been trying my best to finish the Annis I haven't done

[obtuse obsidian]

Unless you do some sort of niche gameplay that make you m9 stuff the only op worth to m9 is like raiden

[median fable]

and if you account all the 6* she's not on the "higher end"

[tepid thistle]

No

[boreal steeple]

More = better dw

[icy condor]

Why not use Myrtle as a solution for the dp problem?

[wanton meadow]

Raidian is free to m9 so that doesn't count

[brazen gulch]

i'm been genuinely getting value from all three skills so i mastered all three

[raven ermine]

I mean
I have a skadi m6 mod6, and i can still use her and draft her and she works decently
Doesn't mean she's good and i won't draft her in high diff
Idk what your scale is, and that's just pointless semantics, sure she's good depending on your roster, obviously
But she's a decent operator, not a good operator (once again, pointless semantics)

[median fable]

man, you can't tell me seriously you found value on s1m3

[rain forge]

this channel makes me want to bite into a freshly baked brick

[median fable]

like, skill level 7 surely would have worked anyway

[formal shadow]

All I'm seeing is a lot of yap

[obtuse obsidian]

It count :realmad:

[opaque remnant]

what question is being answered

[formal shadow]

None

[urban sleet]

Can i shill leizi2 for m9 convo

[wanton meadow]

What does blaze2 s1 do anyway? My memories are kinda hazy, some sort of afk skill or smth?

[median fable]

she is one of the few m9 I'd consider worth since all her 3 skills are used in different contexts

[raven ermine]

Shitty af reedic s2

[obtuse obsidian]

I have like 15 m9s can i chill one of those

[rain forge]

applies buff to an operator which deals arts dot around them

it already has 100% uptime at sl7 idk why someone would m3 it

[abstract mauve]

apply an aoe thing that procs burn on an ally. main usage was with agents where it was sourced to them and it generated bucketloads of dp. sadly it was patched out lmao

[opaque remnant]

leizi2 feels worthy of m9, S1 is usable, S2 is her main skill, S3 can be strong with the right placement

[median fable]

mind you, it's not even manual. You can't control it (blaze2 s1)

[icy condor]

What'd be the top 3 snipers in your opinion though, I'm curious (besides Wiš'adel)

[urban sleet]

Hence the shillling

Btw I was told pram2's s1 sews niche usage is fhat true or should I just m6

[wanton meadow]

Oh that's crazy it used to count as an extra hit for agents' dp gen?

[abstract mauve]

wisadel lemuen ray unless im forgetting someone

[urban sleet]

besides wisadel

[opaque remnant]

EN can't read

[raven ermine]

Depend on the content

[abstract mauve]

lemuen ray. there isnt a 3rd sniper then

[median fable]

if you try hard enough all skills can be considered niche, the point is if the niche is good or bad

[pale tapir]

rosmontis is5

[urban sleet]

Cant we shaft in narantuya

[raven ermine]

Or archetto

[urban sleet]

Exactly what I want to know is it a good niche

[abstract mauve]

probably narantuya in the top 3 ig

[icy condor]

Ahh alr, ngl I'm genuinely curious what would the top 3 be out of all the classes available

[median fable]

it pushes things, maybe some IS strats in specfic maps uses her but idk

[boreal steeple]

Sl7 and m3 is just dmg difference

[marble viper]

Niche use for what, push?

[brazen gulch]

sometimes i want consistent aoe arts, s1 simply does that. i was trying to articulate something more but i just see no problem tbh yeah

[raven ermine]

I've been told s1 has usage, but i didn't ask where

[abstract mauve]

wdym? like top 3 of each class or top 3 units in the entire game?

[boreal steeple]

Is3 ed4

[icy condor]

each classes sorry

[urban sleet]

ig Imma ask fib for IS usage

[formal shadow]

Pramalt s1 is used for is3 ed4

She can stall the jellies

[obtuse obsidian]

Wis and 2 of her summons

[median fable]

it's just a waste of mats
even the lv90 thing is a waste of resources

[raven ermine]

Nuh uh, bigger burn procs, caveman brain want big numbers

[brazen gulch]

as a nice bonus it also has some interesting uses like it remaining active even when blaze is CC'd, or it allowing her to dps in two lanes at the sam time

[wanton meadow]

maxed out bobbing isn't wasted resources since i won't be pulling yu anyway

[brazen gulch]

i never said i lvl90'd her lol, i may like her but i'm not gonna sell my kidneys for her

[median fable]

and you're telling me that the m3 was really necessary?

[formal shadow]

No she can do that at sl7

S1 masteries are pretty garbage

[urban sleet]

nice

[obtuse obsidian]

Wtf weak simp

[median fable]

my bad, read wrongly. Saw m9 and mod3 and I thought it was also lv90 (surprised it isn't)

[obtuse obsidian]

Level 90 is a lesser waste then m9 anyway

[halcyon cloak]

My only m9 is Ch’en 2 I think?

[raven ermine]

That's what JJ said
Anything can be niche if you look hard enough
Doesn't make it a "good" niche or better than alternatives
If you like it, great, but that's just an opinion, not a fact

[obtuse obsidian]

Chen 2 m9 is kinda crazy since she have the same skill 3 times

[brazen gulch]

i master skills that i use, there's nothing more to that really. i at best prioritize between different skills+operators but at the end of the road, if i use the skill i just will upgrade it

[median fable]

do what you want, but just know that it's a waste of resources

[formal shadow]

I've got a couple m9s

[light latch]

I cannot think of a single situation where i have ever seen chen2’s s2 used

[minor heart]

Anyone here got Max S2 Ulpapi? Can i borrow him a bit

[formal shadow]

Aak, leizi, tragodia

[median fable]

many "niche" skills can be used perfectly as sl7 and you don't really need to m3 all of them

[obtuse obsidian]

Just counted I got 17 of these.

16 if we dont count raiden

[median fable]

m9 is more of a flexing thing

[ancient current]

1p relay or giga fast rdp auto clears

oh wait

chen2

[obtuse obsidian]

Simp thing tbh

[severe crypt]

XE40#3335

[halcyon cloak]

Actually I have Ch’en 2, Weedy and Saria at M9 apparently

[tepid thistle]

Though saria is still the best M9 right?

[wanton meadow]

Idk e1 chen2 for early IS floors or smth? Granted you're not gonna use masteries for that but I'm just playing devil's advocate

[stuck raptor]

if i get one of Amiya's skills mastery 1, will it also be mastery 1 for all of her class conversions or do i need to do each of them individually?

[formal shadow]

You got to do them all individually

[obtuse obsidian]

Chen 1 actually benefit more from m9 then chen 2 i fucking cant

[ancient current]

chen2 s2 is used uhhhh
ermmmmmm
at e1 maybe sometimes

[raven ermine]

Lol no, not even remotely close

[formal shadow]

Aint no one using saria s2

[severe crypt]

Saria m9

[pale tapir]

individually
so maxed amiya is technically m21 if I'm mathing right

[ancient current]

are we in 2020

[urban sleet]

Also dont you leave saria's s1 at m1

[halcyon cloak]

Careful or I’ll M9 Ch’en 1

[obtuse obsidian]

Yes my amiya is m21 atm

[formal shadow]

Even in 2020 saria s2 was bad but people keep coping it :realmad:

[median fable]

poison map usage in 2020 🥹

[minor heart]

Added

[light latch]

Gummy s1 but its aoe

[obtuse obsidian]

Go for m27 chen at this point

[urban sleet]

That one poison map in is2 and that one f3 is2 boss

[halcyon cloak]

[formal shadow]

Wait till you hear using an actual medic

[ancient current]

saria s2?

KyostinV bot

[wanton meadow]

Funny enough the solution is just wis it

[formal shadow]

Block boss l bozo

[severe crypt]

Ulpi is up

[opaque remnant]

is the 3 charges not good enough?

[urban sleet]

Brothas I am joking

[median fable]

we didn't have medics back then. NG and Shining were the only 6* ones

[obtuse obsidian]

I used saria s2 in my most recent is6 ed2 max D clear

Good skill :clueless:

[ancient current]

3rd charge is m3 no
or am I confusing it with eyja1 s2

[severe crypt]

3rd charge is m3 and min sp is m1

[formal shadow]

People just don't understand the power of silence back then 🥀

[ancient current]

ye

[formal shadow]

And then most coped perfumer

[carmine trout]

do i need to e2 proviso for her to work in base

gotcha ty

[urban sleet]

Not the e2 perfumer I have seen ppl say they prefer perfumer over purestream/suss in IS

[formal shadow]

She works at e0 but you're missing out on 500 lmd every default trade

[median fable]

I have e2 perfumer because she was actually goated

[wanton meadow]

Do you ever need saria s1 3rd charge tho? I feel like for content she can tank 2 charges are enough and for harder hitting stuff you just wanna run another blocker

[boreal steeple]

E0 also works but at e2 she's one of the best workers

[light latch]

Placement skill issue compensation or smt idk

[carmine trout]

shouldve used the coupon on her instead of kroos alter,,,

[urban sleet]

[obtuse obsidian]

Since i saw a ptilo get her ass handed to her in is4 i have not been trusting aoe medics at all since then

[raven ermine]

I can think of weedy, leizi2 being worth m9
If you stretch it a bit including niche content, gladiia, hoe, wis, yato2, rosmo
And that's really niche
Might be forgetting about a few ops, but eh

[halcyon cloak]

E2 for the performance and stats ❌

E2 for the prettier art

[opaque remnant]

wasn't logos considered worth m9 at some point

[urban sleet]

-# skalter in 2020 cough

[obtuse obsidian]

Horn for some specific ass defender knight players

[median fable]

you don't, in fact most recommended s1m1 for the 4 sp cost and wouldn't bother with the extra charge

[rain forge]

tragodia s1 + mantra s3 synergy 🤫

[formal shadow]

I raised warf instead

[raven ermine]

Just get more aspd idk, it's like qb s1 atp

[minor heart]

Thank you

[median fable]

I have too many medics raised, ngl

[formal shadow]

Same

Still waiting for the time I use my rose salt

[obtuse obsidian]

I only have the broken medics raised

Like paprika

[abstract mauve]

vanguards: ines sash2 top 2. 3rd spot can be shared between vulpis, 5* agents, matsukiri or any flagbearer
guard: mlynar leizi2 chen3 (chen3 isnt in global yet but i believe she is easily in the top 3) sakiko somewhere close by
sniper: wisadel lemuen ray/narantuya
defender: hoshi2 shu yu (yu would be 3rd by process of elimination)
medic: mon3tr eyja reedic/titi (mon3tr is a bit better than the rest of the medics)
supporter: tragodia haruka
caster: logos pram2 lapp2/mantra
specialist: wang exu2 ela

[urban sleet]

I think you can add rosmontis with is5 context as a note

[boreal steeple]

I think that's more of gen content advice

[opaque remnant]

supporter only has 2 good ones?

[abstract mauve]

ye it's not putting too much consideration in specific gamemodes

[urban sleet]

They didnt mention in which context so

[coarse notch]

im an is5 fiend and i think things get too hairy if you add ros to that

[limber pecan]

when is salter from now roughly

[obtuse obsidian]

The 3rd supporter is raiden caus eshe is beyond broken in one place instead of being meh every where :ya:

[abstract mauve]

unless someone here has a recommendation for a 3rd best supporter

[formal shadow]

If we were considering IS, ange better be on there :realmad:

[urban sleet]

CN had it after icebreaker, EN schedule is subject to changes

[raven ermine]

Then it's not raidian it's ange

[abstract mauve]

i thought about raidian tbh

[obtuse obsidian]

Ange is not broken in is

She is just good

[grand path]

who works best with shamare at base?

[boreal steeple]

Raidian s3 kinda underrated out of people

[urban sleet]

Tequila and another tailoring slave

[coarse notch]

teq + tailoring skill (kafka bibeak diamante paprika etc)

[obtuse obsidian]

All 3 raiden skills have big usage actially

[formal shadow]

Good enough to solve so many IS stages for me

[limber pecan]

is that on rn or soon, i havent played in like 2 months

[grand path]

what about proviso?

[urban sleet]

Icebreaker starts on 1st april

[coarse notch]

3rd supporter slot goes to proviso

[urban sleet]

#r-i-i-c pins has all this infor btw

[wanton meadow]

Proviso + your best 1slot tp worker

[limber pecan]

alr so like a week or two allegedly

[formal shadow]

I'll shill haruka but people care about damage more 🥀

[urban sleet]

Haruka in list

[halcyon cloak]

I only have 15

[obtuse obsidian]

We fighting for 3rd supporter slot after Haruka and tragedy

[grand path]

quartz good enough?

[halcyon cloak]

Wait why did my discord auto refresh to hours ago

Sorry dude I pinged

[urban sleet]

.

[wanton meadow]

Sure, i don't see why not if you don't have the crazy 1slot tp worker combos

[formal shadow]

Supporter is dead class 🥀

-# could always make the argument of how tutu sweeps through general content (even if she really falls off anywhere outside it)

[urban sleet]

-# ling also does that kek

[median fable]

before expansion 1 in is5 she was actually nice sniper draft

[frozen dawn]

ling downfall

[formal shadow]

Tutu not tuta

[urban sleet]

They mean arturia

[median fable]

[formal shadow]

[wanton meadow]

What are these nicknames

[abstract mauve]

people draft ?

[brittle glade]

What’s the best thing to buy now? (I have 10 orange and purple thingy)

[coarse notch]

arturia is5 spine killing technology

[mighty parcel]

do i get yellow certs when i buy a 5 star off purchase certs?

[median fable]

yeah, I'd like to but I can't shill her

[raven ermine]

Sane people don't i'm pretty sure

[opaque remnant]

can we put proviso in the 3rd slot because of their base skill

[boreal steeple]

Crates

[formal shadow]

Actually arturia was people draft for is5 supporter iirc

[median fable]

cost too much for what it's worth but yeah

[urban sleet]

I drafted her in my recent is6 run cuz free and excess supporter tickets

[brittle glade]

Thank you

[ancient current]

valarqvin spine killing technology
less hope

[formal shadow]

How broken :roswao:

[abstract mauve]

unironically if people draft virtuosa might as well save on the hope and get valarqvin

[wanton meadow]

Time to draft bobbing

[formal shadow]

Well general people can't draft in IS so

[ancient current]

nope bobbing is way less effective

[formal shadow]

They just pick whatever and yolo

[ancient current]

he needs like 3 skill accs to fully kill a d15 spine

[abstract mauve]

😭

[ancient current]

(s2)

[boreal steeple]

People forget phonor exists

[urban sleet]

General ppl pick thorns in IS

[formal shadow]

Bobbing skill is ass

[ancient current]

phonor doesnt kill in 1 necrosis proc

[wanton meadow]

Damn 3 cycles? That's rough

[formal shadow]

Reminder bobbing s2 is janky sometimes and places weirdly

[obtuse obsidian]

Dont spread our secret

[coarse notch]

thorns top3 is5 guard by pickrate despair

[limpid yarrow]

general people don’t have a plan for who to draft

[brazen gulch]

are spines invincible on d15? why is bobbing on treasure collecting duty

[urban sleet]

Said 'general ppl' is kukki btw

[raven ermine]

I saw IS5 stats, surely thorns is broken

[abstract mauve]

~18k hp 50 res 1.2k defense 50% physical and arts DR in a 3x3 area

[obtuse obsidian]

Those spines in is5 whole point is to sell amiya medic :ya:

[abstract mauve]

actualy idk exact hp number

[coarse notch]

you mean castermiya

[limpid yarrow]

doubled on catastrophe

[raven ermine]

Medicmiya is there for bird cages

[obtuse obsidian]

Why would i use the amiya with no good skin?

[limpid yarrow]

so long as you’re drafting properly it’s fine though
even cheeto e1 can clear spines

[left tulip]

who’s Cheeto again?

[mighty parcel]

is it worth to farm purchase certs for the guard/specialist tokens for potential?

[formal shadow]

You dissing medicmiya skin? :realmad:

[limpid yarrow]

or rather she can clear the mobs while click does the work

[brazen gulch]

except for hp (never looked at it) same as on my pisslow diff runs. any caster should do the job question mark?

[urban sleet]

Gen content doesnt need potentials

[obtuse obsidian]

Archetto

Only will need 4 million shots

[limpid yarrow]

click still the goat

[raven ermine]

Archetto

[ancient current]

Bobbing skill is ass

[left tulip]

Goddamn

[formal shadow]

Indigo gaming

[ancient current]

icl I can shill bobbing but only in certain situations

[abstract mauve]

with enough time click can do the job ye. it's just that you have to have someone on spine duty before your run gets going

[obtuse obsidian]

Hey i used him once to kill skadi (in the boss rush where we get free blaze and bobbing)

[halcyon cloak]

Asking for my partner as she also just came back up the game

Which second healer would be worth investing in these days? I want to say Ptilo or Nightingale but idk what’s good or bad anymore lo

[abstract mauve]

ptilopsis

[ancient current]

I run Haze and she works fine, too

just don't use Pudding or Greyy (4*) like I do

[opaque remnant]

ptilo is fine

[urban sleet]

Ptilo for healing, nightingale for arts mitigation niche if no haruka

[abstract mauve]

raidian e2 can solo the first like 3 floors spines included

[obtuse obsidian]

NG is still fine raise

Would not bother much with those unless you have no shit to raise

[urban sleet]

Well if you habe haruka no need to raise ptilo either

[limpid yarrow]

just start trag atp

[ancient current]

just start warmy-

(dont)

[raven ermine]

Account seems relatively new
NG is not a general content medic

[urban sleet]

Do robot run trust

[halcyon cloak]

She’s struggling with only one dedicated healer right now

She also has Saria unbuilt and Nearl built

[median fable]

generic healer raise Ptilo
NG niche is to buff alies res, she sucks at healing though

[ancient current]

warmy is so ass she doesnt even proc burn on spines after 2 s1 activations

[obtuse obsidian]

Greyy is like top 10 splash caster tho

[ancient current]

brother

reading

greyy is like

no.

[limpid yarrow]

are there even 10 splash casters

[ancient current]

he's top 70 splash casters

[wanton meadow]

Top 10 splash caster? Is there even 10 splash castrr

[subtle dawn]

What are the best wood farming stages in RA?

[ancient current]

i think there is

[raven ermine]

Just go e1 ptilo/e1 saria and it should be fine
NG is for niche content, she's not the best value for her

[obtuse obsidian]

Fuck i did not count theres more then 10

Ok top 15

[opaque remnant]

who's bottom tier

[winter carbon]

Do I e2 cantabile if I’m retiring Myrtle 👀

[wanton meadow]

Greyy is top tier powerplant slave

[slate ridge]

pog

[median fable]

top 3
3rd best

[brazen gulch]

after himself

who are the top 3 anyway?

[median fable]

mumu, greyy2, generic 20%

[raven ermine]

Running mumu is such a chore tho

[abstract mauve]

he's worse than generic 20%?

[median fable]

dead lancet if you want to include him can be considered 1st

[wanton meadow]

He is generic 20

[abstract mauve]

he said top 3 tho not considering lancet

[median fable]

same, I just don't bother with the extra 5% and use 20% workers lol

[wanton meadow]

Shared 3rd spot

[left tulip]

Oh btw how worth it is ptilo skill2

[formal shadow]

Greyyalter is slightly more than 20% now. I forgor his exact number

[wanton meadow]

23

[median fable]

23% iirc

[light latch]

There are only two power plant workers stronger than generic 20%?

[winter crystal]

That’s her main skill

[brazen gulch]

okay that's too big wtf

[winter crystal]

No greyy skin

[median fable]

JK is in theory is a 20% pp worker if you don't count proviso droning multiplier

[brazen gulch]

greyy but green is not interesting for me thanks :( the idea looked really nice but then i looked up a showcase and it's whatever

[abstract mauve]

for early on this one mainly if you are doing glowstick cheese. later on you dont need to get wood. i would suggest doing the mains stages that give wood like the lowest you go is 60 wood in a stage then just skip to the next season so that the wood resets

[left tulip]

I see, is it valid to pivot between both? Mainly because I don’t have many strong units I find myself not needing the extra range pretty often

[median fable]

10% pp worker + 5% in fac with Wild Mane

[wanton meadow]

Is this with eunectes + pudding + flametail or smth?

[raven ermine]

The extra range is not the main appeal
The burst is

[winter crystal]

S2 is burst healing which is what you should be running 24/7, the extra range isn’t something people decide to use S2 for

[brazen gulch]

does come in useful on occassion though

[subtle dawn]

yeah this one ik about i was just wondering if theres any other ones cuz once i clear the wood from this i gotta skip like 20 days

[median fable]

just that 2% in pp is basically 1% in fac/tp so 5% in fac can be considered 10% pp
the problem is that if you drone proviso it's actually a net loss

[halcyon cloak]

Eunectes is good?

[raven ermine]

Only for base

[wanton meadow]

For base

[left tulip]

I see, I liked the shorter cd on first skill but I’ll try to use second more mayhaps

[median fable]

and RA with new mod I guess, idk

[halcyon cloak]

The mech is fun

[winter crystal]

There shouldnt be a need for you to cycle her skills often also S2 lasts quite a while

[raven ermine]

She is good yeah, even in high day count you can use her comfortably

[winter crystal]

Newbies tend to run two healers ptilo and silence (the owls) if you need more constant healing

[gentle dove]

Wait, you're saying droning proviso is bad or?

[light latch]

It’s good

[abstract mauve]

there's 2 within range nodes early on. the better nodes for wood are later on. this node is also good but be careful to not anger the enemies there

[left tulip]

I don’t have silence I’m using ptilo + Ansel or even triple healer sometimes

[winter crystal]

Ansel is….not good. Do you have purstream or perfumer?

[light latch]

Its just that proviso boosts the value of drones, so justice knight’s 5% factory bonus becomes less valuable than 10% drone bonus

[wanton meadow]

No, he's saying JK is basically as good as 20%pp with wildmane under the condition that you don't drone proviso (you should drone proviso)

[gentle dove]

I see, but who's jk?

[wanton meadow]

Justice knight

[light latch]

This only applies for a single hyper specific and expensive setup, dont worry about it

[left tulip]

Nah ptilo is my only healer that’s not a 3 star except gavial

I dont struggle with heals too hard for now thankfully

[winter crystal]

Ok make due for now, if you have saria she can be used to heal and keep ops around her alive too with her S1

[polar hollow]

hi is ifrit masteries worth investing in in the big 26?

[left tulip]

I don’t , let’s see if recruitment gives me smth ig how’s gavial?

[light latch]

Please use sussuro or purestream instead

[subtle dawn]

is this the node that you need to beat the conflict zone skirmish for cuz if it is i aint getting to it anytime soon 😭

[wanton meadow]

Technically higher sustained hps than other 4* medics over long periods but that's not what you need more often than not

[median fable]

normally the conversion rate from pp % and fac/tp % by droning is 2:1, so every 2% in pp can be considered 1% in productivity
this is if we don't account operators who "create value" from nth like Proviso and Tequila, in that case the conversion rate is higher, like a 2:1.8 or sth like that
you should always drone proviso since it gives back much more than droning anything else

[split oriole]

Should I spend pulls to get the 3 yellow certs left

[left tulip]

I wish I had sussurro

[median fable]

she's still one of the best res debuffer in the game, s3m3 is worth but obv niche

[gentle dove]

Yeah I got it now thanks
Also another question, is droning proviso better than droning tequila-shamare-paprika?

[raven ermine]

No, just wait for next month

[winter crystal]

You’re fine, you said you don’t really need heals currently just keep playing and keep an eye out for those ops we mentioned to replace ansil

[abstract mauve]

maybe . you can still get wood without beating it. also if you beat it it gives you some wood over time you just need to send operators on an expedition

[left tulip]

What are healing targets most often ?

[light latch]

Do u have any expedited plans and recruitment permits left

[subtle dawn]

yeah but sadly i cant beat it im not strong enough

[abstract mauve]

i'd stick to the 2 within reason nodes and do as you are doing now ig

[winter crystal]

The enemies tend to attack your last deployed op. So place all your damage then your tanky defender and have your healers keep your defender alive which will be a lot easier then keeping a squishy ranged unit alive

[left tulip]

Goddamn getting gravel was such a godsend

[polar hollow]

wbt s2m3?

[split oriole]

Ran out of recruitment permits

[wanton meadow]

Do you really need her to afk aoe?

[light latch]

Did u buy out the ones in green cert shop both phases?

[wanton meadow]

I'm sure you have better picks for afk

[gentle dove]

You can buy operators from the red certs shop too

[split oriole]

Worth it or nah (the other 2 material I got 110+)

[rain forge]

yes

[polar hollow]

but but def shred is kinda hot no?

[raven ermine]

No it's kinda not

[polar hollow]

wow

[rain forge]

[sudden bramble]

im just doing this IS cuz i'm a masochist but is she niche character or good?

[rain forge]

mid

[raven ermine]

No she's bad, and don't let rechord tell you otherwise