help

[hidden wolf]

Is mantra op

[robust thistle]

no

[limpid yarrow]

did they hand out proviso in a selector recently or am i crazy

[abstract mauve]

anni selector from hoshi2 ye

[coarse notch]

just a casual 1.7k dps :glueless:

[limpid yarrow]

good to grab for base slaving if you still have it

[hexed adder]

They probably started after ato event, so rip

[green anvil]

This stat should be good right?

[hexed adder]

Click arrow on upper right (ur gold on low side)

[green anvil]

Here

[robust thistle]

kinda below average really

[formal shadow]

🥀

[rain forge]

Yeah no that’s kinda bad

[hexed adder]

Is this 3 exp?

[green anvil]

Yea

[formal shadow]

I'd imagine so

[robust thistle]

fix your rotation and setup, you should make 45+ per day min

[green anvil]

i'm lookin at this and tryna to copy 1 to 1 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ohry3zj-9clEBE_qiD-IJzKcs8bSZBIkD858ehn3-90/edit?gid=1195647200#gid=1195647200

[rain forge]

Why are 4 of the factories level 2

[green anvil]

i dunno

[formal shadow]

max right + no proviso

[rain forge]

how much gold is too much gold

[hexed adder]

That one from /baseskills yea, surely its fine if u follow 252 one. Basically same like peterYR staggering guide

[hidden wolf]

What is guardian and protector defender

[hidden wolf]

Very bad base

[proven kelp]

Someone that Guards and Someone that protects

They're a different Defender Archetype that prioritize different speciality

[hidden wolf]

How long have you been playing

[hidden wolf]

Is protector yellow shield

Guardian blue shield?

[coarse notch]

skill icons are unrelated to operator archetype

[hidden wolf]

How do i know which archetype is it

[coarse notch]

protector and guardian icons

[coarse notch]

you can also filter the branch archetypes on the right

[obtuse berry]

well I want to borrow a Hoshiguma for the bear in H16, do you guys have her

Nian got 2-shot by that bear

[rain forge]

how did Nian get 2 shot

what level is your Nian

oh wait H stages nvm

hoshi1 can kinda fend the bear off but she needs haruka and mon3 on her

[obtuse berry]

e2 lv60 with module

[rain forge]

even then she’ll slowly die off

[obtuse berry]

no problem just need to clear the rage then my DPS can finish it off

[carmine trout]

is mountain a good e2

[peak summit]

Which ending is this?? Cuz i did ending 1 on d8 and it didn't unlock

[abstract mauve]

that's ed2

[rain forge]

no

keep him at e1

[peak summit]

Brooooooooooooo

[severe crypt]

I’d reckon you have better e2 targets, plus he functions just fine on e1

[carmine trout]

any good e2 targets?

[severe crypt]

How are your medics looking specifically

[carmine trout]

uhh

[coarse notch]

finish building your e2ed units first

[severe crypt]

Also that but curious about how his healing is going

[slender temple]

Yeah should've just finish w*s and Mlynar

[coarse notch]

mlynar, wis, exalter all need mod3
they all need m3 on their s3 as well if you havent done that

[manic hazel]

Is yi truly the hardest boss(Ending 1)

[coarse notch]

no hes the easiest boss of is6 by far

[severe crypt]

Yi is light work

And I’ve ONLY done ed1 (I’m lazy)

[manic hazel]

OK am fucked for Is6

[pale tapir]

ed3 and 4 will rip u a new one if you struggle with yi tbh

[manic hazel]

Which op is best counter for him tho

[coarse notch]

you just need to learn each ending's gimmicks
but yi is still the easiest still

[abstract mauve]

tragodia

[severe crypt]

Or any staller really

[coarse notch]

tragodia, hoshialt, raidian all dogwalk him

[manic hazel]

So I should give up wis but go for tragodia?

[abstract mauve]

ye

[severe crypt]

Apple istg 26.4 better fix this fuckign keyboard

[pale tapir]

wis ain't doing much for ed1 besides mob clearing
which other ops can do

[coarse notch]

trag borrow is the easiest solution
https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/
follow this
if this is your first IS go read the general info on this website too

[abstract mauve]

there's a link to a video clear of ed1 in this guide when you get to it

[severe crypt]

The idea is to keep yi as far top as possible to ensure his hunter killer drones don’t cover more of the map

[coarse notch]

dang we're on ios 26 now
last time i used an apple device it was on ios 5

[carmine trout]

these are my healers not including defence units

[robust thistle]

Purestream not E1
Fix your base workers first

[abstract mauve]

honestly after playing ed1a a couple times, the drones are barely an issue in the stage

[carmine trout]

these are my e2s

[severe crypt]

Let the d9 lazy ass preach to the d0 peeps 🥹

[coarse notch]

fix your base workers then your operators need modules and masteries before you consider raising any more

[carmine trout]

i think i used the coupon thingy on kroosalter

[coarse notch]

also this is certainly an account of all time

[pale tapir]

iphone 4 unc
pretty sure they skipped a bunch to match version with year

we know lol just mod3 m3 the ops that want it and get your base ops at appropriate promotion as stated before

[carmine trout]

what's wrong with it,,,,

[severe crypt]

Questionable decisions is all, we’ve seen MUCH worse before

[coarse notch]

nothing serious you just got a really interesting investment strategy going on

[carmine trout]

like what though,, i think its ok

[abstract mauve]

it's great. idk what these guys are on

[carmine trout]

can you elaborate because I'm just scared of pushing too much levels on e2 units because of resources

[potent tartan]

A lot of stuff is half finished
Getting your 6 stars E2 level 60 Mod1 and M3 on their main skill is encouraged before doing someone else

[coarse notch]

dont be
e2 lvl60 your meta units

[carmine trout]

apart from wisadel who's mod should be a main priority

[severe crypt]

You wanna dump resources on your good units

[coarse notch]

#help message
listed them here already

[pale tapir]

yea they went ios 18 -> ios 26 just like how samsung went galaxy s10 -> s20

they told u above already 😭

[coarse notch]

oh and logos needs s3m3 mod3 as well, cant tell how far hes been raised from that screenshot

[carmine trout]

i was in game screenshotting oml

[slender temple]

But you push Saria and Silence to E1 lvl51 tho talking about resource eff

[pale tapir]

lol all good this is why we recommend using krooster website

[coarse notch]

thats fine, mid e1ing units is recommended before pushing vertical investment heavily

[severe crypt]

And no not the operator krooster

[carmine trout]

silence was like a day 1 unit from the beginner pick pls and i got saria very late and i was building her

what's with everyone just being condescending when im just looking for genuine advice

[coarse notch]

[pale tapir]

just ignore those ppl and focus on the ones giving u genuine advice

[potent tartan]

Youre probably not gonna like hearing this, but youre taking it the wrong way

[severe crypt]

Bro is just making a mound of a molehill nw

Not like we haven’t made even worse decisions with our accounts

[abstract mauve]

your resource spending is better than 90% of new players. you did pretty well with it

[coarse notch]

dunno if the tone didnt get across but i dont think any of us have really been condescending yet
your operators are strong already as is but do need further investment
check /base and /baseskills in #bot-spam , then #r-i-i-c pins, your base needs work, raise the base workers there
then come back to vertically invest in the operators we've suggested before e2ing more units

[severe crypt]

Also get ur krooster account up and running, much easier to share roster that way

[carmine trout]

i didn't mean it to you no worries i do appreciate your feedback

but it hasn't been like half a day here for me and ive already been made of fun multiple times for zero

[pale tapir]

unfortunately that's kinda common in this channel
hermi isn't here 24/7 to tell ppl to be nice sadly

[carmine trout]

kinda appalling that needs telling really but oh well cest la vie

[severe crypt]

It’s also cuz there’s genuinely some people who kinda need tough love
Some

But that’s mainly people being like
“I need help”
Gets help
“Nooo not that help”

And also “how dare you call my waifu bad”

And he who rhymes with stuffy

[potent tartan]

One more thing to prob bring up:
A lot of LMD and EXP costs are backloaded instead of frontloaded
E2 Lvl 60 doesnt cost too much and is needed for your 6 stars' Mods. Thats why you should push your ops levels to 60 instead of leaving them at 20

[abstract mauve]

before mods people used to more commonly leave them between lvl 20-40
so lvl 60 is mainly for mod if anything

[slender temple]

I'd say E2 lvl40 for max eff if you haven't plan to build the op's mod any soon, same goes for E1 lvl40 if you don't plan to E2 them soon

[pale tapir]

to put it into hard numbers, e0lv1 to e2lv60 costs 761,409 LMD
e2lv60 to e2lv90 costs 573,387 LMD

[severe crypt]

Plus tax

[pale tapir]

-# my first e2 was ambriel idk what that is

[coarse notch]

it doesnt excuse the behavior but as a gacha game this channel naturally gets more people who come in wanting help and then lash out when the help doesnt align with their own opinions
plus some genuine trolls
so whenever people question the help they receive others are very quick to fight back
and there is some genuine elitism that i think is unavoidable in a channel dedicated to optimization
and the questionable moderation system (of lack thereof) that makes it borderline impossible to remove disruptive people

[severe crypt]

It also doesn’t help that the trolls genuinely aren’t funny
Like at least take the piss properly 🚬

[carmine trout]

i have never disregarded any advice given so far so it just sucks really when its just seems like 2nd nature

but i get that

[royal swan]

People tend to forget the pov of a new player ig over time

[runic willow]

That's what you get when you allow everyone to have an opinion

[stable goblet]

im only at level 15 in rebuilding mandate. am i cooked?

[proven kelp]

So true
All opinions that don't start with Y and end with I are automatically invalidated

[pliant bison]

When are we getting the hoshi2 mod

[severe crypt]

Lvl 15? You a dish on masterchef 🥹

[ivory terrace]

u kinda are
max is 60 but dw about it

[stable goblet]

i want to get all medals... is it doable within 5 hours

[pale tapir]

cooked as in probably won't max rewards? yeah
cooked as in you're missing out on stuff? not really

[slender temple]

Once you get a hang of how the game's working, you'll eventually develop your own opinions too, so yeah it tends to be strange for newbie when someone legit crash out on some opinion but whatever it's not that serious

[gilded cloak]

Has CN even gotten another Fashion Review yet? (the skin gamble for 2800 orundum)

[coarse notch]

dang fae hates girlslove

[proven kelp]

Wtfart no
You got it backwards smh

[pale tapir]

they like yugirlsloveri

[severe crypt]

I mean 2 negatives make a positive or smth

[coarse notch]

you said it, not me

[proven kelp]

Your only option is to manually grind it for hours, which im not sure if it's possible

[gilded cloak]

Was it only once with Fashion Reviews seeming scarce or does it kinda just happen sometimes? I might get this one because it would "save originite!"

[carmine trout]

dw im level 1

[pale tapir]

it only saves if you have all 15 op cost skins already

[gilded cloak]

I actually kinda want some of the 15 cost ones

[pale tapir]

then buy for 15
better value

[proven kelp]

Is this about the Skin Gacha?

[carmine trout]

i think my only skin i have that i bought is leonhardt's xmas skin

[gilded cloak]

It's only a 100 orundum value difference though and originite isn't renewable

[proven kelp]

Unless you're planning on buying everything that's in the gacha, might as well just directly buy the skin you want

[gilded cloak]

true true

[slender temple]

It's gambling tho, what if you get a skin you don't want

[pale tapir]

who said so? they're no longer releasing events?

[trim merlin]

idk if this will be worth it 😭

[gilded cloak]

how bad is it to waste ~5 pulls if I have 240 rn and a bunch of rocks/shards

[nimble kite]

On what banner, exactly?

[gilded cloak]

I want silverash2 and nasti, idk if I wanna pull for sui and chen3

[pale tapir]

it isn't because krooster exists and 3* kroos is just used as supplement
she works fine well below lv55

[carmine trout]

3* kroos still good in is no?

[gilded cloak]

Base kroos is best for IS2 and IS3 I think because anything above 3 stars costs hope

[proven kelp]

I'd rather draft May

[nimble kite]

Ah, then pull for those. Who will stop you?

About Nasti part - better to rewatch all showcases for her, upcoming content that may shines her very much, etc.

And then consider pulling or skipping.

[gilded cloak]

I'll need to check how fast she can build the platform, but I like the idea of being able to create unique strategies or have better control over positioning

[abstract mauve]

for the nasti part consider skipping mainly

[proven kelp]

Pull Nasti for Uika tech, trust

[nimble kite]

Same for Titi. Cause she might be useful on IS highend.

[abstract mauve]

neither of them have genuine high end usage yet afaik

[nimble kite]

I want test the D18 Izumik part of Titi.

[gilded cloak]

Is that just being able to put uika in more places for sakiko

[nimble kite]

Will she evade Phase 1 fart, or game engine will say "no".

[slate ridge]

invuln wont save you from force retreat no

CS

[proven kelp]

Yes
Better flexibility with her placement that can accommodate being in range for both Saki and Mutsumi

[nimble kite]

But only to herself. And she has poopoo damage.

I ain't kill overwhelmed jellies with her.

Titi with main DPS will just evade that, press S2 and attack goes nowhere.

[slate ridge]

oh Izumik is just shockwave not force retreat so uh sure

[stable goblet]

since i started playing rebuilding mandate very late, its not worth the time to grind for the medals correct?

since it seems thag tk get the level up cirrenxy i need yo wait for passive income or play for 100 every run when every levelup is around 4.8k

[nimble kite]

Yeah, you just won't get much.

Although try to clear battlepass as much as possible for free stuff.

[stable goblet]

i already have a ton of kats anyways. i guess byebye skin and medal set

[woeful mesa]

What do ya'll do when you have been playing for a very long time in terms of op building?

I have had my core team leveled for a while, my core core team maxed in most ways. Haven't been having difficulty with most regular content as a result.

And just, have so many unleveled operators. Like, sure I could just keep leveling ops at random or that I want to try builds for (Which I have been doing, including having my partner design a team for me to build who has no knowledge of the game)

But I just. There are so many operators at E0 level 1, and every time I look at most of them I realize and understand I'm litterally never going to use almost any of them, nor do I have the resources to level most of them beyond a handful slowly over time. Despite many looking/feeling cool. Like, for the record I own like 286 out of the 348 operators in the game or whatever the numbers are. Teams can only be 12, and I have like 30? units capped and like 20 more at E2 level 40/50/60

[turbid ocean]

It really is on you to find motivation to do things
Theres definitely bunch of niche units which are good at specific things that like never come up in general content

So you gotta figure out what content do you want to play, how you want to play it perhaps
That can also help you figure out who to build

[gilded cloak]

I was thinking about using story/faction-relevant operators for story content but idk how interesting that would be

[royal swan]

Build stuff for base to be able to build more stuff or build units of a particular niche for fun or stuff for IS etc

[pale tapir]

RI ops only should be doable for gen content

[woeful mesa]

Def, and some factionknights stuff is extremely doable

[gilded cloak]

I think I would end up primarily using raidian if I did that, so would definitely have to put restrictions

I'm hoping it will be satisfying, because idk if I would use amiya knight otherwise

[turbid ocean]

Playing nicheknights and stuff we can't really help you decide what you want to do
but if you want to know what operators are strong from a subset that you pick out, thats possible

[pale tapir]

I mean RI has plenty of good fun ops
logos, mantra, blaze, lyudmila, weedy, gavial, krooster, theresa, nymph, mon3,etc.
it's up to you to find your own fun

[gilded cloak]

it'll be largely subjective, I'm aware

[royal swan]

I play 5* and below for story/events so I end up using amiya guard quite a bit

[vivid yew]

Greetings, is it better to try recover my old account from 4 years ago or should i keep continue playing my new account? It has Logos Mantra and Ray, and i feel my old account units is probably outdated

[woeful mesa]

I'm worried that once I max out the reward trees for different game modes there is going to be nothing else to really do beyond just doing and redoing content for fun.

Like, RA hasn't had new stuff in a while. And every successful IS run can get you 6-10+ levles per run. What other content is there even in the game?

[turbid ocean]

Logos Mantra Ray is a very strong start, i doubt the old account could be better

but there is alot of things which will be hard to get back if you will

[nimble kite]

Actually, with that kind of ops, you may just settle with this acc instead.

But if you want, I could help with recover matter.

[turbid ocean]

recovery help goes to #tech-support

[pale tapir]

CC, permaCC, events, niche clears, challenge clears, virtual cockfighting, co op bullying, vector malding
it's also okay to take a break lol

[manic hazel]

Is is6 considered the hardest or others

[royal swan]

I enjoy IS enough to the point of playing it even after I've farmed all of the rewards

IS central has a few mini challenges if you're interested in stuff like that

[nimble kite]

Well, kinda. Most of maps requires hitcount ops.

[royal swan]

Is5 and is6 are on the easier end, maybe is3 is the hardest?

[nimble kite]

If you cannot provide that, you will have a bad time clearing that.

[manic hazel]

I haven't tried is3

[woeful mesa]

Truuueee. I just came back recently from like a year break is the thing. I'm having fun, just, yeah. Don't wanna burn out either. Last time I burned out hard when I overthought things and only did daily grinding to level ops.

So this time I've been doing more IS and clearing up story, just yeah.

[manic hazel]

And is5

[vivid yew]

Alright, i will keep my new account. Any recommendation for who should i pull next? I also have enough yellow certificates to buy an operator

[royal swan]

Is5 is the easiest I wanna say or is2

[nimble kite]

IS3 is easy lowdiff. It only became a nightmare when highdiff.

[pale tapir]

le pins du roadless camelot or whatever

[woeful mesa]

Yeah, IS3 is in this weird spot. The penelties on ops you can get are rough. IS4 I felt hit harder early on?

[potent tartan]

Theres an upcoming limited banner thats really strong that peeps generally reccomend saving for. Silverash2 and Pram2

[royal swan]

But is2 is also just basic/boring so eh

[turbid ocean]

very few ops in the gold cert shop is worth it
so its worth checking in (the pins) to see if it happens to be worth it

banner recs in the pins, has priority list of CN banners

[royal swan]

Is4 is easy ish outside of ed3, i think is4 is the only IS where I've finished all endings so far

[vivid yew]

Alright, thank you. I have trouble opening pinned guide with my phone, i will try it on my laptop later

[urban sleet]

Special battle in pathfinder makes the operator placed on the tile being struck by lightning a candleholder right

[unborn pawn]

no one wanted to answer my question so ill just ask here. when ambience synesthesia 2026 comes, does the previous ambience synesthesia skins rerun?

[urban sleet]

Consilt hermitz skin planner in pins for skin reruns

[turbid ocean]

Well the Ambience Synethesia event for 2026 hasn't come around in CN servers yet

We can't say with certainty until it actually does

[unborn pawn]

well when 2025 came out did the 2024 ones skins rerun?

the ambience ones

ops sorry for ping ur a mod.

my apologies

[turbid ocean]

We're having a convo thats fine lol

Uh there were none

[unborn pawn]

alright thank you

[turbid ocean]

AS 2025 was about April? last year in CN

Im struggling to remember what AS skins were even made in previous years

[undone portal]

the as2026 mv characters are lemuen/tragodia/saria right? or am i missing someone

last year was logos/muelsyse/mostima

[turbid ocean]

like AS skins from previous years didn't really come out as a AS event no?

Amiyas became her birthday skin
Ines and Virtuosa got similar skins but not tied to AS

[plush falcon]

Yeah from the looks of it

[turbid ocean]

well Ines was tied to AS, just 2025 but not the exact same art

[undone portal]

ines/stainless skins are under as brand

[turbid ocean]

correct

so there is a good chance of it to rerun but we can't say anything with certainty

though 1 year is usually the mark for new skins to get their first rerun
and what we can say for certain is they're not some sort of external collab

so HG can rerun them as they please @unborn pawn

[undone portal]

very glad we're getting a saria skin in the big 26 l2d i pray

[unborn pawn]

thank you very much!

[sonic flint]

does the adverse level increase the stats of the enemies on top of giving the chosen effect ?

[turbid ocean]

yes

challenge modes / adverse enviornment at a base line change the stats of all enemies

if they specifically say x enemy has some stat increased, it means they have that stat increased past the CM/Adverse ramp up

[obtuse berry]

Hoshi1 still got 3 shot by the H16 bear

[turbid ocean]

S2 + ModX3?

[pale tapir]

are you trying to tank when it's enraged

[obtuse berry]

Youtube guide pairs her with Shu so well

[nimble kite]

Yes. Simulations will additionally add some enemy stats upon Adverse one.

[obtuse berry]

yes

its H16-2, the H stages are so difficult

[lyric lagoon]

well that's their purpose, to be difficult

[nimble kite]

Bear has 1950 ATK by default. You need to kite him.

Straightforward tanking him might be really difficult.

For reference:

Hoshi E2-90 S2M3 ModX3
Haruka E2-60 S2M3
Monsta E2-90 S2M3

And Hoshi dies still. Damage is too strong to overheal that permanently. Only by Monsta burst I could buy some time, but that's much it.

[obtuse berry]

I think Hoshi can tank adverse and simulation so she can do that in H stages but uhh im too innocent in that regard

[nimble kite]

Hoshi tanks 16-12 Sim-2 because Bear has at most 1200 ATK.

Which is enough to overheal and thus stall the bear completely.

[obtuse berry]

lets wait for sensei Kyo to post the low rarity strat

[nimble kite]

You can try AFK one, he already done them.

[ivory terrace]

or eckogen?

[nimble kite]

https://youtu.be/UOK7buIvgIs

[obtuse berry]

Im still a newbie (compared to you guys) so well, I dont have those units to start with

it is what it is, the stage is still there after all :v

[nimble kite]

Ah, isn't Kyo said he won't do Lowend for next Main Story H-stages? After Ep14.

[obtuse berry]

oh nyo ok lets never touch that shiet again

I dont have much OP to start with so uhhh I think just bring W in S.A banner and lets see

[serene jasper]

where can I buy tickets for ambience synestesia? and what do offline screenings imply?

[ivory terrace]

main story in general

[nimble kite]

I forgor to give up medic levels btw.

[earnest sparrow]

hello. myrtle s1 or s2?

[ivory terrace]

s1

[quaint valve]

Any of you guys use mantra for H stage? I feel terrible not seeing her use case, tho there are invisible enemy..

[lyric lagoon]

guess we gotta wait for shining2 to solo bear

[nimble kite]

I didn't tried normal Shining for tanking him.

Tho I have her E2-60 M6.

And Mod6.

[lyric lagoon]

that was an alter joke dude.

[nimble kite]

Now I'm curious.

Ok, even with S2M3, it kinda works.

Although she has much moment with <10% HP

And other targets like bears and civs helps to take the aggro, which helps to recover HP fastly back.

Hoshi + Haruka + Shining.

That's how you will cook H16-2.

[obtuse berry]

bye bye

[lyric lagoon]

and that's only for phase 1

[obtuse berry]

no need for any tank, just Kroos alt + Click + Haruka s3 = win

[nimble kite]

Yeah, but Phase 2 is easy to overheal, lol.

He hits very slow.

[sleek relic]

whos the kid? the small one

[nimble kite]

Himself.

[sleek relic]

oh ok

[lone valley]

[obtuse berry]

wut da hel h16-3 is easy but h16-4 is both that boss and the bear???????????? Does dev has some humanity left 🥀

[pale tapir]

just have them fight each other

[nimble kite]

Ya have Yu S2?
That would simplify this segment for you.

[obtuse berry]

I wish

[nimble kite]

Too bad. Thankfully there's also guides to kill them both normally.

[safe tundra]

does anyone have graph or calc of eyja s3 total damage on modX vs modY

before i alternatively lock glacial into the basement of squidward community college asking for theirs

[nimble kite]

X one is better tl;dr.

[safe tundra]

ok so i dont have to trouble unlocking the other, ty

[nimble kite]

Don't bother with Y one.
Very questionable trade-off with lower damage output.

[ivory terrace]

that assumes max aspd from talent 2?

[safe tundra]

you either fixed downtime slightly lower damage or max damage but gambling the helidrop
-# i definitely go for the latter

[nimble kite]

[vivid yew]

My operator wish list

• Narantuya
• Ulpianus
• Tragodia
  Are they limited?

[nimble kite]

All 3 - no, Standard. You can spook them any time.

[ivory terrace]

ye, none of them are

trag banner rerun is like end-2026 region tho due to debut being end-2025

[royal swan]

Naran and ulpianus might hit the shop at some point as well

[nimble kite]

It's a big shame kitty is today. 🥹

[vivid yew]

Will this banner remains the same when it hits global?

[ivory terrace]

has been proven multiple times to not be
so we wait

[nimble kite]

It may change. Orientied proved to change something. Someone was replaced every release.

[vivid yew]

Alright, i will wait for the updated banner

[jovial urchin]

#friend-id didn't have any so I'll ask here. Does anyone have Silverash maxed out?

[drifting prairie]

I got you

[supple wolf]

Who should I reroll for? Horn or mantra

[jovial urchin]

Arrow#8435

[brazen gulch]

What is Pozé[||can't believe EN keyboard doesn't have a ё||]mka good at/what's her niche (elite/boss phys dps?), what she struggles against (waves?), what characters are similar to her (Ray?)? Wanna get the general picture of her

[jovial urchin]

Pozyomka is enough

[neon siren]

ë

[drifting prairie]

Do you need anything more than s3m3

[supple wolf]

Who should I reroll for? Horn or mantra

[neon siren]

I'm using en keyboard

[brazen gulch]

correction, can't believe microsoft's android keyboard doesn't have a yo on en layout

[neon siren]

Mantra is better for a reroll

[jovial urchin]

Module would be nice but I'm just using him for the invis reveal at one point in chapter 16

[neon siren]

[drifting prairie]

I have the module, just don’t have any of his other skills mastered, I’ve set him as support

[brazen gulch]

But ya, back to the actual question ^ 🙏

[jovial urchin]

Thank you

[left tulip]

How’s miksaparato?

[jovial urchin]

@drifting prairie I don't think I have you added yet

[drifting prairie]

I sent the request but you can try adding me frazzydoof#9359

[undone portal]

nice blend of invis reveal and being a high def brick, if you happen to need that
probably not a high prio build, but has uses when he is

[mental herald]

worth using cert on jessica alter or save for SAalter?

[jovial urchin]

Don't see anything on my end. I'll try adding you

[mental herald]

alr

[drifting prairie]

I’m probably not the best qualified to answer this question but her niche is the typewriter summon, when she first came out she was a really strong overall DPS for both mobs and bosses. Her typewriters give flexibility for placement. I don’t think there’s another sniper that is similar to her? Maybe a random 5*

Anyways she’s doesn’t see as much use now but still fun to use and strong though

[jovial urchin]

@drifting prairie you don't seem to exist

[drifting prairie]

Maybe try capitalizing the f? Not sure is its case sensitive

[jovial urchin]

Alright added

[left tulip]

~~can I send too ~~

[scenic yoke]

How do I get this orange dot away it triggers me so insanely hard, I don't know what to do

[drifting prairie]

Like add as friend? Yeah go ahead!

[reef sparrow]

have you checked anything that you got recently?

[drifting prairie]

^

[scenic yoke]

I think I did, I also pressed on every one of these "banners" to check but I see nothing

[drifting prairie]

It should go away after you click each theme, sorry to doubt but are you sure you clicked them all?

[brazen gulch]

It sounds like you use(d) her yourself? Which mod/skill do you prefer to use by default

[drifting prairie]

I don’t use her anymore rlly, I think I might use her in SSS

S3 will be your most use scenario

[brazen gulch]

Appreciate the input

[reef sparrow]

pozy main issue now is she needs her typewriter to be actually decent and without that, other 6* snipers kinda stomp her

[ashen surge]

Between SilverAsh and Surtr, who should I prioritise promoting to E1 more?

[scenic yoke]

I didn't saw that I could scroll up there it's gone now

[brazen gulch]

So you're saying my Exusiai eats pozy alive?

[reef sparrow]

if e1, surtr has more use ig

[drifting prairie]

No lol

[scenic yoke]

Silverash only shines on E2 really but I think same goes for sutr

[shadow bay]

both want e2, but atleast SA can be mini tank at e1

i just rly hate surtr until she get her e2

[drifting prairie]

E1 surtr has more use imo as well

Unless you really need invis reveal

[reef sparrow]

I'm sorry but I don't think there exists a marksman archetype

[ashen surge]

Hmm

I see. Thanks.

[shadow bay]

ultimately u both want them e2 coz both use s3

[drifting prairie]

^

[reef sparrow]

imo SA e2 first

[drifting prairie]

However surtr s1 sees decent use

[vivid yew]

Is it worth to raise both Tequilla and Shamare just for base? It feels the ROI will be pretty long

[drifting prairie]

Yes

They’re also both pretty good operators in general

[ashen surge]

I'll just go with surtr first then because she feels more tanky for me and I already have sakiko as main dps. Should be fine right?

[reef sparrow]

uhhh ye, tbf we didn't know ur other ops so that's just my input going blind

[urban sleet]

I would prefer sa over surtr at the moment simply cuz ch 16 event

[drifting prairie]

If you’re newer and lack diversity in ops then I’d go with surtr as well. You don’t really need 2 lord guards and their roles overlap kinda but Saluki is better. I would invest in an arts guard (surtr)

[left tulip]

How difficult is it btw to E2 5 star ops?

[drifting prairie]

I hate invis enemies so much…. Ines is now a default part of my roster

[ashen surge]

I see.

[urban sleet]

No rarity is difficult to e2 omce you have a built base

[reef sparrow]

generally you wouldn't unless you know what you're doing 5* is a pool of trash anyways

[scenic yoke]

For me personally my team is lacking cheap units you can deploy early that do not just explode on the first wave. I manage most of the content but for example I struggle on 16-16 do I have any good options https://www.krooster.com/u/kanui

[drifting prairie]

Liessss, 5 stars are really good

[shadow bay]

just alright.... but still depends on needs of operators

but ultimately it boils down to how much resources u have... hence u wanna stock up materials in events, and farm chips/red certs/books when needed

farming is not actually hard, its matter morely on... how long

[drifting prairie]

Yeah you don’t need silverash lolll or surtr for that matter

[urban sleet]

Whoever designed invisible unbloclable enemies going through routes undeployable unless miner bro spawns in time to help has earned a midnight visit from me yeah sure its doable but holy ass its annoying

[pseudo flume]

You can start with Sakiko though for 16-16

Wait is 16-16 the boss one or the swarm one

[left tulip]

Goddamn, you got all this starting just in November ?

[urban sleet]

This account needs neither sa nor surtr, it needs a good dokutah

[scenic yoke]

Lol I wasn't the one asking that question haha I don't even have silverash

[reef sparrow]

wait I don't think this is the guy that ask surtr or SA

[urban sleet]

Smh confused me too

[drifting prairie]

Oh sorry I thought you were a diff person lol, the name colors are the same

[pseudo flume]

He was the guy who asked 🤫
-# In another timeline

[reef sparrow]

the guy who asked even have red names

[scenic yoke]

My wallet hurts

[pseudo flume]

He was red in another parallel universe 🤫

[scenic yoke]

The boss

[left tulip]

You say I’m not getting there in 4 months as a F2P ?/j

[pseudo flume]

Yeah you can start with Sakiko tbh then place Myrtle afterwards

Hoshi2 can handle the top area

[drifting prairie]

Gosh I don’t remember 16-16i used a support op I don’t remember this one being that bad though

[scenic yoke]

I can not, I need to start with myrtle and haruka, I need to get her skill going, but the problem is the second phase where I leak either on the one side or the other

[pseudo flume]

Also bring a frd to bait the insta kill

[drifting prairie]

If that doesn’t work look at oyuki’s guide

[scenic yoke]

But still at the end of the day I would appreciate someone with similar dp costs to mountain, but not mountain since he sucks

[lone valley]

Exu and ela

[drifting prairie]

Can mountain not lane hold in this map?

[urban sleet]

Dunno man I started that stage by deploying sakiko first no vg deployed at all

[drifting prairie]

I’m also not sure if he has Ella

[scenic yoke]

I'm sure he could but I don't want to use him

[drifting prairie]

Honestly Saluko is as cheap as it gets, but also ines could work

[vale finch]

Hmm is Jessica good? I could use another defender

[odd sky]

don't pull

[nimble kite]

Alright.

Not a prio anyway tho.

[vale finch]

I was considering yellow certs...

[odd sky]

no

[undone portal]

shes, simply put, pretty decent
not worth dropping pulls/certs to get when we've got a limited banner coming up

[urban sleet]

The type of unit you can consider raising but don't invest pulls/certs for

[undone portal]

certing in general is kinda a waifu > meta choice to make for whoever it is unless its like, ines/mlynar or one of the better upcoming debuts

[drifting prairie]

It’s worth it if you need her to complete your collection. Other than that she has a fun gimmick but unfortunately tries to do too much and ends up not being great at both things

[ivory terrace]

dun u have miksa

[pseudo flume]

Almost won but the right side leaked unfortunately

You just need something to stop the unblockable enemies

[polar hollow]

wat skill do I m3 on sakiko?

[pseudo flume]

S3

[drifting prairie]

Either ascalon or Ethan will do

[scenic yoke]

Yeah with ascalon and mountain I just barely managed

[drifting prairie]

Also take advantage of the miners

[drifting prairie]

Glad to hear 👍

[pseudo flume]

[drifting prairie]

If you bind /stun them long enough using ines or Ethan you can use elemental damage from trag or virtuosa to finish them off quickly

[pseudo flume]

There's a 4op with Ines, Sakiko , Ulpi and Haruka ya

[pale tapir]

that one doesn't work for ss2 tho does it
I tried on ss2 and there just wasn't enough dmg to handle the yurodstvo
with specialist dp triple and more fortbreaker adjustment

[drifting prairie]

Sorry?

[pseudo flume]

Simulation 2

[paper bough]

for the resource efficiency is the number they show resources/hour? at lvl 53 so need to grind out 2 more levels in 2 hours

[drifting prairie]

I used hoshi2, trag and ulpianus as my dps for ss2

[pale tapir]

4op clear?

[drifting prairie]

No those were just my dps. You need an invis reveal for each sidee , I used sa on left and Ines on right, their skills don’t matter then I took haruka for heal and eyja2 but didn’t need her

So 6ish op clear is pretty reasonable

[pale tapir]

oh nvm then
I cleared ss2 with meta squad 3 days ago but I've been stuck on 4op blemichi copy
even 5op with wis second phase is hard
tried swapping ulpeanuts for hoshi but still tight af
plus yurod doesn't die to sakichan anymore

[drifting prairie]

Oh are you trying to minimize ops used lol

[drowsy timber]

What 5* E2 worth max leveling (i still have the ticket to max level one from the sakiko event).

Prefering one for niche uses. Proviso already maxed.

Thinking of using it on mulberry (i have no elemental healer), but asking here before I commit

(Cantabille already E2 maxed)

[raven ermine]

Don't use it on mulberry
Show your 5* and it'll be easier to tell

[pale tapir]

proviso does not need lv80 but rip whatever

[drowsy timber]

5* I have built are:
Cantabille, Proviso, and blacknight

[nimble kite]

We want to see unbuilt.

[reef sparrow]

that's not helping

[drowsy timber]

assume I have every 5*. (I don't have my account linked >.<)

[neon siren]

Other than dps, what is my team missing, and once i get pram2,sa2, and wis, who do i replace with who?

-# I need help making a better team cuz I need more survival and dmg

[drowsy timber]

linked to kross thinggy

[nimble kite]

Then Tequila > Shamare.

[pale tapir]

are you asking about lv80 ticket or e2 ticket

[drowsy timber]

both

[royal swan]

E2 shamare > tequila

[reef sparrow]

you can dump archetto + CE + gav

[drowsy timber]

well, I mean, I only have the Lv 80 ticket remaining, but I don't mind E2-ing a 5*

[glossy schooner]

Then do so

Make a Krooster, it takes like, Five minutes

[drowsy timber]

I will return here in... approximately 4 hours then

[glad elm]

Wtf r those black thang?, it feels like a blackhole then it becomes a spawn point?

[neon siren]

Ah alr, also any medica that will work until I get a better 6star one

-# krooster is in my bio

[royal swan]

There's a bunch of ok 5* to lv 80 like gracebearer, specter, tequila etc

[nimble kite]

There's ranged ninjas inside. Don't worry, they cannot jump and dies to the hole.

[royal swan]

It depends on ur acc cuz if u have better 6* , u might not even use said 5*

[drowsy timber]

Noted. I'll just return after I have krooster linked

[glad elm]

Do they pull the jumpers back so that they fall into the hole or am I just imagining it?

[raven ermine]

Assuming you already have a built roster, you don't care about grace/specter
Tequila for base but that's useless without shamare
It's hard to tell without knowing what you're looking for/have

[pale tapir]

lv80 best used on dps 5* imo, not sure who else would benefit
grace, teq, rafaela, rockrock, etc.

[reef sparrow]

tbh you don't need to raise another healer

[nimble kite]

Yes, they make jumpers jump early into the real hole. They're helping you.

[glad elm]

Lmaoo OK

[neon siren]

I need one for H3, stuck rn, no good defenders either, need more survivability

[royal swan]

It's also the lv 80 ticket specifically and not the e2 ticket

[pale tapir]

you need more than haruka?

[royal swan]

Wouldn't really bother with rockrock

[neon siren]

Try playing ch 16 H3 without any defenders or another healer.

[raven ermine]

You could always use that one later, the value is pretty low
Most likely for an IS pick like kroos2/greyy2/whatever you're planning to draft

[reef sparrow]

are you dying to what btw?

[neon siren]

Those gundams, the first time I needed another healer other than Theresa or haruka

The H stage

[royal swan]

Yea I ended using my 2nd on greyyter, krooster would work as well

[pale tapir]

if you have any decent arts dps you right tbh

[royal swan]

It's also cuz unlike arts, physical units actually make use of the atk to overcome def thresholds, outside of unlocking modules (which can be done by lv 50) the increase isn't too high for most units

[raven ermine]

It's more likely because they're past the point of using 5*

[pale tapir]

yea makes sense
I just play 5* too much

[raven ermine]

So you would only raise for IS/niche/base

[drowsy timber]

Oh wait, krooster is so easy to import with wtf.

https://www.krooster.com/u/honest-honey-shu-66o5

ok, re-asking on what 5* to E2 max >.<

oh my proviso isn't maxed, huh, why did I think she was maxed

[left tulip]

If I have tequila, and Lapp, do I pick ptilosis (hopefully that’s the spelling) or specter as my 5star ticket pick?

[pale tapir]

she's raised as high as you need her to be

[raven ermine]

mod3 s3m3 mlynar
Raise your baseslaves asap please
I would use both on kroos if you plan to draft her in IS, else i would e2 for base
But raise your e1 base slaves first ts is painful

[reef sparrow]

just use silence if you need another medic can lvl up higher but not e2, no need to raise ur other medics

[formal shadow]

do you have another ticket

[neon siren]

Okay thx

[royal swan]

U can just hold it but imo april, greyy and kroos all have differing use cases, the latter 2 more for IS, april is sorta niche for IS (and u don't have rosmontis so her value there drops) but she's so far the only fast redeploy ranged unit I believe?

[left tulip]

You mean a 5 star operator ticket? Nah only the one I mentioned left at least from the beginner rewards

[drowsy timber]

M3-ing other unit right now, but noted

[royal swan]

Greyy is more for is5 and maybe 6, kroos is for IS in general

[drowsy timber]

aight, sure, can still save it for future 5*

[formal shadow]

can you get another one in the future? if you can it doesn't matter much (since you can just pick the other one) unless you're planning to use the e2 on spectrr

[raven ermine]

She is, but in my experience april is quite situational of a draft

[royal swan]

Or save it until u actually use 5* yea

[left tulip]

I already used an e2 ticket on tequila, will I get a second one? Also no, I already used my first 5star ticket, unless there’s smth I’m unaware of I’m not getting another one from the beginner rewards

[royal swan]

Yea especially if they don't have ros, idt most runs would get the tickets to draft her

[royal swan]

Just get ptilopsis

[pale tapir]

ngl seeing their roster I agree with this
their only 5* picks are going to be niche

[raven ermine]

I draft her without ros if i have bunch of aspd/excess hope/rdp relics

[royal swan]

Fair

[royal swan]

Basically out of the starting voucher combos get u one out of lappland/specter + ptilo, I assume u picked lappland on day 1? If so pick ptilo with the one u have left

[brazen gulch]

Does anyone know off the top of their head if Pozy's Typewriter's attacks count for her S1's offensive recovery charge

[left tulip]

I did , alright ty! May I ask, am I gonna get another E2 voucher if I understand that right

[formal shadow]

nah just another 5* voucher

[pseudo loom]

what is FLOT? the name appears like 3 times when getting a new outfit. i dont think its a clothing brand either

[frozen brook]

How do I learn how to learn Arknights?

[royal swan]

No but u will get a lv 80 voucher, keep ur tequila at lv 1 and use that on him later when u get it

[raven ermine]

You play and get better

[pale tapir]

FAFO
beginner guide in roadless in pins

[frozen brook]

I’ve been playing since Code of Brawl released originally and I haven’t gotten better. I’ve also mostly been copying guides to the letter for fear of failing.

[frozen brook]

Except you need to understand why you failed

[raven ermine]

Well get rid of that fear of failing, you don't get better if you can't learn from your mistakes

And for that, you need to make mistakes in the first place

[left tulip]

You do so by trying different solutions until you find the correct one, or just looking at the mistake and asking yourself the question ig

[median fable]

it's an acronym for the outfit gallery, "Fashion L---- Operator T-----"
honestly Idk and I doubt it's important

[frozen brook]

i So basically trying all possible squads, deployment orders and locations until I succeed?

[slate ridge]

A lot of it is
Go to wiki > read what the enemy does > read what your ops do > read what the stage does > record your attempt > record trying to fix previous attempt > ??

[pale tapir]

no you think about what went wrong in your previous run and how you can use the tools at your disposal to overcome, avoid, negate, or deal with the problems you're facing

[left tulip]

I mean, I’m noobie player, but eventually you build up some kind of common sense that drives you towards what are the most likely successful options, based on what you know from your previous runs of the stage and overall experience

[median fable]

if you read stage and enemies mechanics you're already ahead of the curve

[south zodiac]

Just asking is she better then ashlock?

[frozen brook]

Reading is one thing. Understanding is another.!

[raven ermine]

Just ask if there's something you don't understand

[cyan owl]

They do two different jobs.
Though Ashlock is better at her job than Asbestos is at her job(?).

[slate ridge]

Thats why your attempt is the FAFO part in understanding

[pale tapir]

the understanding comes with playing the game too
just like how you can read a textbook about how to drive a car but it's not until you're in the driver's seat that what you read starts to make real sense

[frozen brook]

say I know an enemy reflects damage and requires you to protect pathetic civilians who stop when the enemy touches them to remove this problem, how do I deal with it?

[left tulip]

~~what does FAFO mean btw ~~

[raven ermine]

fuck around and find out

[south zodiac]

👍

[median fable]

honestly there is not a guide on "learn to play AK", it's like asking "how to learn to play x game". The best way would be to play and learn while doing it, knoweledge will be built up from experience

[frozen brook]

Or that a boss is invisible and will insta-kill everyone. How do I deal with that?

[median fable]

who?

[pseudo loom]

hmm ill check in game if theres a clue. image in wiki too small i cant zoom

[spark moat]

welp i started rm late and can't finish it in time. does yostar ever bring back previous events w/ the same medals to re-attempt?

[cyan owl]

…Which sidequest are you enquiring about?

[pale tapir]

use an op that reveals invis enemies

[frozen brook]

Presumably provided you take exhaustive notes, film everything in OBS and then go over everything with an experienced Arknights coach?

[slate ridge]

1. Remove the threat so theres nothing to protect
2. Realize medics can heal civ
3. A lot of ops can break or change stage mechanics

[raven ermine]

wat

[median fable]

like, one of the things i'd advise against is theory crafting imaginary enemies. I don't remember any boss that's invisible and one shot everything

[frozen brook]

I’m talking about the Chapter 16 final boss.

[pale tapir]

I smell 16-16 struggle

[cyan owl]

The closest we got to that is like… erh, Emperor’s Blade?
Not invis, just invincible temporary.

[formal shadow]

ines + nuker does it

[left tulip]

Nuh uh it’s faust

[karmic urchin]

is blaze alter talent the best for baiting damage right now?

[frozen brook]

What about IS then? How do you get good at that? Just mald over and over until you’ve exhausted every possible RNG outcome and know exactly how to manage these from your Arknights coach?

[raven ermine]

But what's this about an arknights coach

[frozen brook]

What about the slugs and the canons? They’ll kill everyone.

[pale tapir]

IS? fail and learn
yeah it gets frustrating sometimes but when it does I just take a break, touch grass, come back next week
sometimes I do be malding tho

[median fable]

there are ways, depends on your roster and you create a strategy starting from there. Using an invis revealer like Ines is a choice for example

[cyan owl]

IS: fork around and find out.

[nimble kite]

It's only viable for Misery in VB#2, due to his priority to use the skill on least MaxHP unit.

[slate ridge]

Tldr dont raise Blaze2 level?

[median fable]

it's a roguelike, like all roguelikes you play, get screwd up in a specific stage, learn from msitake and don't get screws up the next time
I doubt you'll play IS at torunament level so this should be enough

[robust thistle]

wasnt that the streat for CCB3

[raven ermine]

How can you do the funny burn squad if you don't

[robust thistle]

cant get blaze2 level too high or she wont die in 1 hit

[median fable]

one way to speed up the process is checking clears for stages before actually doing them so you're not doing them blind and it can save up some time

[nimble kite]

It is. Does it matters now?

[raven ermine]

Yeah it was used for perma stall iirc
No clue if that was actually really core or anything

[nimble kite]

Core if you don't do anything else.

So you help with ThornsAlter and Kaltsit to keep her alive.

And most importantly - gets released much faster.

[median fable]

and this is kinda over the top, I doubt the numbers of AK coaches are in the 3 digits and you'll probably need to learn chinese for that

you don't need that to be good enough at AK since I doubt your dream is to win an IS tournament

[formal shadow]

find someone with self heal like hoshi2 s2

[spark moat]

Do events w/ slightly different gameplay mechanics like Rebuilding Mandate tend to rerun w/ the same medal set?

[hard prism]

Nawr

[median fable]

usually they don't

I can't think even of a single example like that

[spark moat]

same 💀

[median fable]

like, only permanent ones like IS and RA still are available (excluding first iterations)

[unreal olive]

Are there new good farming stages in ch16

[hard prism]

Only shit game modes are adapted

[median fable]

just don't fall for the fomo mentality, especially in gacha games

[eager totem]

is6 ed3 omly open right after u neat ed2? i domt have the doubt node revealed this time

[median fable]

same as before, you shouldn't farm story stages except for rocks
iirc we got a new better cyclene stage in ch16 but, as said above, you shoudln't farm it

[turbid ocean]

fomo*

[raven ermine]

Hi light

[turbid ocean]

fafo is essential to learning

[median fable]

too much talk about fafo right before

[spark crane]

Which one should I take

[turbid ocean]

do you have other 6*? take Saria

[opaque remnant]

Pins

[turbid ocean]

if no other 6* take Thorns

[slim tusk]

just take saria

[eager totem]

doubt is the node for is6 ed3 right

what the FUCK I DONT HAVE THE OPTION

[light latch]

Have you done ending two

[eager totem]

yes

[raven ermine]

It's a specific doubt node

[eager totem]

unless i need to do ed2 on that difficulty as well

[eager totem]

i thought its revealed…

[raven ermine]

You can't get it in any doubt node, only the one with the board game

[light latch]

The first doubt node is always the ending one

[eager totem]

i dont have the option

[raven ermine]

You need 5 candleguests iirc

[eager totem]

lemme send a ss later man
and no i dont have the option

bro i passed through the doubt node i cant even prove it

[rose apex]

is there a silverash pramanix alter release date

[odd sky]

[marble viper]

just hope it's far away so we YES we can get more pulls

[eager totem]

do i need to do ed2 on that difficulty to unlock ed3???.??

[raven ermine]

Nope

[eager totem]

its pissing me off so fucking much bruh

[odd sky]

just do ed2 on any diff, then the doubt node is there

[eager totem]

i did

[odd sky]

unless you did ed2 on monthly or smt

[abstract mauve]

anyone has a description of what the new is6 squads do?

[inland osprey]

16-16 be pulling my hair now , damn , id learned how oudated my current ops are , cant brute force my way through it like i used too

[abstract mauve]

it's one of those stages where the mechanics do matter

[inland osprey]

i event watch some guide vids , still couldnt finish his phase 2 😭

[ashen surge]

This is still up to date right?

[neon inlet]

what do you recommend? Is the first top tag I got

[inland osprey]

actually i did finish his p2 , but out of shdden my right side is leaking , oh lord

[silver smelt]

either supporter for magallan/suzuran (suzu gamble) or top op aoe for mostima/ifrit
medic for shining/ng (ng gamble) is also up there

[raven ermine]

top op supporter for suzu gamble

[drowsy timber]

do people still use suzu?

[silver smelt]

if you dont have suzuran take top op supporter but like theyre all niche (suzu mostima ifrit ng)

[drowsy timber]

i don't doubt she is useful, but, just like, very rarely used?

[silver smelt]

theyre all very rarely used

[drowsy timber]

e fair

[neon inlet]

I already have haruka and reed alter, would you still recommend suzu? or she does something else?

[silver smelt]

Suzu does slow

[drowsy timber]

she does slow

[raven ermine]

Yes rarely used
She's the most usable of all of those tho, and TO tag is usually either something very niche, but somewhat useful, or something shit

[silver smelt]

idk about most usable since they all get used once per year each roughly

[drowsy timber]

Top operator full gamba for bagpipe ( do not do this )

[raven ermine]

slow and fragile, she's not filling the same role than those

[silver smelt]

bagpipe gets used once every decade not year

[abstract mauve]

archetto is TO

[abstract mauve]

she's part of the something shit pile

[drowsy timber]

wait, do bagpipe need to be deployed for he +SP for vanguard talent?

[safe tundra]

bagpipe to jumpstart snegurochka skill how ril is this

[neon inlet]

so I do this and send it, right? top and supoorter

[drowsy timber]

why is she shit then, I thought that is like, a few second faster for your DP printers

[silver smelt]

in all honestly.. it doesnt matter
these are all ops that only see in content you will 99.99% chance never touch

[raven ermine]

Because she's taking a whole team slot for 6 sp for your vanguards

Think of it as using 11 ops, but your vanguards get + starting sp

[drowsy timber]

I can see where you are coming from, but at the same time, 12 slots ya know

[abstract mauve]

silverash2 is soon to be a unit on global

[proven kelp]

Just win with less slots smh

[raven ermine]

Sure, that's just qol if you want to use flagpipe
Doesn't make her good

[silver smelt]

yeah but if we just let anyone in based on "we have 12 slots" the whole idea of operator being good or bad falls apart innit

[drowsy timber]

I suppose, I suppose

[safe tundra]

you also need to consider that you must e2 for her to even work

[silver smelt]

that applies to suzu/ng/ifrit/mostima anyway
why do people care about e1 value outside is

[safe tundra]

yeah well e2 for 6 SP aint allat

[abstract mauve]

e2 requirement is largely a non-factor into how ops are rated anyway

[neon inlet]

this way, right? a bit less of half of my team are 4* or 3* o anything would be good for me, still using both kross as snipers lol

[drowsy timber]

I SUPPOSE, but, there are some units that should be considered differently than others ey

[silver smelt]

people spend a week tops in poverty where they cant e2 ops reliably like lets not trip ourselves over

[raven ermine]

yeah and 9h
You won't really use suzu, tho you can cope the fragile/slow/regen for gen content here and there if your team quality isn't great

[drowsy timber]

🙁 I am in LMD and Resource poverty

[silver smelt]

you wil probably never use suzu

[urban sleet]

Not this bagpipe debate again oml

[silver smelt]

content that actually calls for suzu/mostima/ifrit/ng 99% of people never touch

[safe tundra]

was more about the rewards of achieving e2, rather than availability

[abstract mauve]

i will have this debate whether or not you like it koo

you cant prevent what is already in motion

[silver smelt]

why bother with flagpipe when sash2 exist

[raven ermine]

Go away ardanis

[abstract mauve]

that's what im saying smh

[neon inlet]

it was suzu indeed

[abstract mauve]

congrats

[valid violet]

is this a bad cc skill? i swap in reed every 2 days when my main team is resting up and she gets about 10 hours of uptime, so only +0.5 morale after 10 hours isn't really worth anything, right?

[silver smelt]

by the time they get around to cc you think it will still even use her..?

[inland osprey]

someone who doesnt have sash , like me lol

[drowsy timber]

Hey tbf, I wished my wanqing got a few more +DP faster in A LOT and FREQUENT times

[silver smelt]

you dont need sash to have sash2 tho? smfh

[drowsy timber]

start of a stage very scary

[raven ermine]

sa2 isn't even out in global yet

[abstract mauve]

me use wanqing often. wanqing is a good boy who prints enough dp smh

[inland osprey]

which sash we re talking here?

[silver smelt]

like buddy just pull next month

[safe tundra]

its not exactly bad. just generic

good CC skills usually do extra things other than just let you stagger rotation longer

[wild crow]

Me at lvl 120 still struggling to raise the ops I want😔

[silver smelt]

fix ur base

[raven ermine]

Sounds like a base issue if anything

[echo venture]

sash refers to silverash (guard)
and sash2 refers to silverash (vanguard)

like cas said you don't need the guard one

[wild crow]

It’s time gated for me im afraid, just want to raise a lot

[inland osprey]

oh there are 2 sash? damn im so behind

[raven ermine]

Yeah it's the upcoming limited

[echo venture]

the vanguard one should be coming soon. no exact date yet

definitely worth pulling

[inland osprey]

is he any good ?

[raven ermine]

He is, and the other rate up is too

[silver smelt]

dont let fae tell you otherwise

[inland osprey]

aight gotta pull em then , i gotta catch up

[drowsy timber]

Hopefully I don't regret pulling for mont3r and ascalon (30 pulls for sash2)

[safe tundra]

whar

[royal swan]

GL

[raven ermine]

Sounds like you will, but i hope for you it won't happen

[silver smelt]

ur fucked buddy skip the banner for wang

[worldly estuary]

30 pulls

[drowsy timber]

lmao, this is one of my consideration, need one more sui for Shu's free DP for all op

[silver smelt]

pulling for best unit in the game ❌
pulling for shu sp skill ✅

[drowsy timber]

but, Wang is best unit

[silver smelt]

correction: one of the best units*

[median fable]

he's pulling for Shu in both cases

[silver smelt]

🥹

[median fable]

let's jsut say top 4 with the others being Exu2, Trag and Wisadel

[safe tundra]

i mean it does sound like bro isnt pulling wang to use him

[drowsy timber]

I mean, I probably will if I have to slot 4 sui siblings in my team ya know

[safe tundra]

??

[median fable]

have you considered playing Suiknight?

[drowsy timber]

2expensive4me

[nimble kite]

Shu/Ling/Yu/Wang

[safe tundra]

ok im gonna ask again, how strong is wang

[royal swan]

U don't need to skip

Use all of the free pulls and single pull on the last day until u hit a 6*, you'll prob get either him or pram2

[median fable]

shu, nian, yu and wang so you get 3 class buff from Shu 🥹

[drowsy timber]

one qi-stone is one wisadel s3 bullet. And he gets 7 on skill activation, and another 7 after skill expires iirc

[nimble kite]

Kills Patrick at H7-4 on one second faster than Wisadel.

[royal swan]

Current consensus seems to be on par with wis and exu2

[median fable]

arguably even better, but saying top 4 is easier than add nuance where it's not needed

[raven ermine]

Very strong
Assuming you're genuinely asking and i didn't miss any sarcasm there, global nukes, decent stalling, basically next gen trapmaster which was already a decently good archetype

[safe tundra]

see, the idea of getting wang not because hes w*sadel tier operator individually but coz it completes shu's talent is sending me

[nimble kite]

Isn't like... you don't need Nian more than Ling tho?

[median fable]

I'd rather use Chong than Ling honestly

[drowsy timber]

I MEAN, YES, but at the same time, it's been what, 3 fucking years of wait time for me to finally activate Shu's 2nd talent?

[nimble kite]

Oh, forgot about that dude. Then him.

[royal swan]

Ling is like the least useful for gen content cuz summoner, if ur using all of them together

[raven ermine]

Guess what
It's not really useful, at most decent qol

[rain forge]

chongyue being considered more useful than ling?

[safe tundra]

i straight up forget shu has a second talent 🥴

[median fable]

Ling is literally there for Sui talent, I can at most cope her s2 usage for bind but without using summons

[nimble kite]

Cheaper and damaging.

[drowsy timber]

I know I know, but, 1SP/4sec mmm

[median fable]

atp I'd rather use Nian for eventual emergency button to tank sth

[raven ermine]

What are you going to use ling for in a full team ?

[royal swan]

So ptilopsis

[median fable]

it's kinda irrelevant overall speaking

[rain forge]

higher thunderers are decently tanky and have good dmg

[raven ermine]

nian yu shu for first part of the talent 2
That's 12 aspd

[drowsy timber]

hey, that's 1 second faster for my flagbearer aight

[safe tundra]

whats the current optimal sui only lineup?
they could overlap to also trigger the 3 same + 3 different class buff so you end up slotting less operators

[nimble kite]

Nah, you just lying to yourself because she's cute

You don't need a wall.

[median fable]

only interesting thing is that the talent works on offensive recovery skills and the actual good part is the 12% atk

[raven ermine]

Sounds like your team is lacking if you even consider using those
Just don't bring 4 suis then

[drowsy timber]

And of fcourse, the 12% atk

[royal swan]

Optimal would be ignoring it and using the good operators as needed

[median fable]

this way you also solve one of Chog's problems

[safe tundra]

erm

[royal swan]

If ur forcing it then wang shu yu and any of the others as filler ig, depends on what u need more for the rest of ur team

[raven ermine]

nian shu yu chong methink
Run that with burn slop, it's very good i swear

[fathom hawk]

who’s skill thing should i focus on (like the three hexagon things after lvl7) ive only done tragodia s2 so far

[royal swan]

Answer is prob nian or chong depending on content+ team

[drowsy timber]

sakiko s3. It is around 40-50% damage increase, one of the most important masteries

[safe tundra]

structural integrity of society if chongyue's aoe component hits air

[rain forge]

Exu2 s2 > sakiko s3 > ulpianus s3 > silverash s3 > ascalon s2 > haruka s2

[royal swan]

Exu s2 and s3
Sakiko s3
Ascalon s2
Haruka s2
SA s3
Ulpianus s3(s2 as well if u wanna use him for afk slop)
Surtr s3 when u e2 her

[drowsy timber]

we coping for new module so he hits air frr fr

[royal swan]

Oh missed ascalon

[rain forge]

why yall x’ing me

[drowsy timber]

1 person x'ing u
"yall"

[median fable]

Exu2 s3 over s2
arguably s3m3 is so low prio in his case

[safe tundra]

share if you agree

[raven ermine]

Because doing exu s3 first when there are all those things to raise is absolutely crazy

[royal swan]

Exu s2 is the better skill usually but prob between that and saki s3 for 1st and 2nd

[rain forge]

I see

[raven ermine]

exu s3 should be at the lowest end of their prio right now

[median fable]

next time sort by rarity btw

[safe tundra]

s2 is simpler to use for someone not exactly familiar with the pacing of late game

[fathom hawk]

damn oke tysm 🙏

[abstract mauve]

i have yet to unironically need exu2 s3

[rain forge]

what

[safe tundra]

i bet my only 20 pulls that people accidentally drained exu s3 and plopped the summon without redeploying anyone

[rain forge]

genius

[fathom hawk]

oh i lowk never use her s3… 😭

[nimble kite]

What H16-4 does to #help:

[raven ermine]

As you should

[fathom hawk]

oh lol oke

[abstract mauve]

hii bengal. how hard is h16-4. do you think welfare will have fun in it?

[median fable]

it has use cases, it's just that the mastery gains won't matter so much to most

[rain forge]

oh yeah in h16-4 who usually wins bear or yuro

[nimble kite]

I don't think you'll get any fun, except if you're masochistic enough.

[fathom hawk]

soooo imma prolly do sakiko s3 then exu s2 then wait for sash2 and pramalter? i lowk don’t rlly like ascalon i prolly dunno how to use her right but yeah 😭

[abstract mauve]

the current record is a 9 op clear. that means there's very little room for error. welfare only 3-4 op clears already dont leave much room for error

[median fable]

h16-4 has both the bear and Yurodstvo?

[nimble kite]

Tbh no clue how do you hold the Phase 1 and with Phase 2 how do you will stall the bear...

[rain forge]

They can fight each other too

[nimble kite]

On Phase 2, yeah.

[median fable]

thankfully people still struggle on 16-12 so we shouldn't have many asking how to beat h16-4

[abstract mauve]

ril

[raven ermine]

Well ascalon really need masteries and modx1 to shine, so that's part of the issue
She'll grow on you dw

[nimble kite]

I figured that Hoshi + Shining + Haruka can stall 1950 ATK bear. So if that helps...

[fathom hawk]

lol oke i’ll trust the process ig 😭 was lowk holding off on leveling her

[brazen gulch]

i'm like 80% sure i saw a 5 or 6 op clear with yu making the bear fight a lot of enemies, will reply later if i can find it

[odd sky]

she's strong even on e1 what are you smoking

[fathom hawk]

💔 she do no dmg and barely slow enemy

[odd sky]

use skill 2

[fathom hawk]

i am 😭

[drowsy timber]

skill 2 and she solo holds any lane (overexageration)

[odd sky]

is she even skill level 7?

[fathom hawk]

nah wtfffffff she literally lets enemy walk right through 😭

[fathom hawk]

lowk good question ☠️

[drowsy timber]

don't put her in front of the blue box, her damage over time persist even after the enemy walk pass her

[fathom hawk]

whoops 😭

[odd sky]

i can't

[raven ermine]

I mean, just look at any ascalon s2 pv on youtube, you'll see
Modx and masteries help, but she will singlehandedly solve your ground issues

[brazen gulch]

the one i had in mind was apparently not h16-4, but i could still find a 6 op clear https://youtu.be/8T6dWrKFn98

[raven ermine]

Well i think we found the issue

[nimble kite]

Fix that.

[fathom hawk]

i usually put her in front of a guard or smth or intersection of two lanes

[drowsy timber]

She's useful EVERYWHERE. Too versatile fr fr

(unless on that book skill stage)

[rain forge]

son

I’m crine

[fathom hawk]

gotchu oke so imma lvl60 her too? 😭

[rain forge]

For modx1 yeah

[brazen gulch]

this made me re-read the skill on wiki and i just noticed a note about s2

Contrary to the wording, the Movement Speed reduction affects aerial enemies as well, but the Talent effect only applies on ground enemies.

[fathom hawk]

oke fixed 😭 tysm guys 🫠
also i had to do a stage to unlock module and holy shi she’s cracked

[hexed adder]

S2m3 too

[fathom hawk]

eventually

[final hound]

Recommend me a braindead squad for this event

[drowsy timber]

none exist. too hard

[raven ermine]

I'm sure you should be able to figure that one out
mod1 your haruka, mod2 your sakiko , use s2 on yu

[thin torrent]

This thing is complete right? Barely made it in time

[odd sky]

yea holy shit you did it

[thin torrent]

Spamming stage 5 clear only

Now the mantra's event

[brazen gulch]

at least for me, the most pain was caused by the fog and the unblockable breakers. so i'd suggest some ccers like ascalon or ethan or vulpi s3, invis reveal like sash and ines. otherwise just regular damaj damaj damaj with a healer. maybe some others i forgot to mention that are good this chapter, those are just the ones i've had success with

[light latch]

mon3tr’s pretty good bait for the fortbreakers, can just place the reconstruction on the far side of her range to bait them

[cursive maple]

useflagbearer mod and skill she will block!

[brazen gulch]

oh yeah the artillery can definitely be annoying if not planned for in advance (i just cheesed with mlynar's taunt )

[light latch]

Sakiko can often just camp at the guerilla miner spawnpoint and leisurely nuke enemies while the miners distract them

[molten yoke]

I slept through to finish the elites of the rebuild event. o_o). . .

... Will it return guys?

[nimble kite]

No.

[light latch]

Oh wait the RM resources continue to generate for two more days?

[nimble kite]

No. I picked up one, go back, and now it's...
🚫 "Over".

[light latch]

Oh it only stores the resources generated just before the event ended ok, thats unfortunate

[junior hull]

Is raidian's new module good? Or is it mid??

[brazen gulch]

the summons are just too good for modb to be even comparable

[nimble kite]

First is better imo.

[light latch]

It is very situational, generally most ppl are not going to have a use for it

[carmine trout]

İ upgraded my reception room to level 3 to finish the pinboard missions, cant i downgrade it?

[light latch]

Account dmg

[raven ermine]

you can't, no

[carmine trout]

Oh...

[brazen gulch]

actually considering that mods can be swapped before a stage, you're right. maybe there's a situation for it once in a blue moon

[carmine trout]

So should I stick to 252 but with lower level factories

[spare jetty]

lower dorms

[opaque remnant]

Still the most optimal

[carmine trout]

They're all level 1

[polar hollow]

do you think it'd be worth raising saileach to replace myrtle here?

[light latch]

dorms and one trade post is lv1?

[spare jetty]

both r lv3

[nimble kite]

Dorms only.

[light latch]

Meant lv2 for the trade post oops

[polar hollow]

why ❌

[carmine trout]

Uh trade post both level 3, 3 factories level3, one is level 2 and another is level 1

Max power

[spare jetty]

should be good

[light latch]

Isnt it slightly better to swap a tradepost lvl for a factory lvl if using proviso

[raven ermine]

"if using proviso"

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[raven ermine]

You don't even know if they have her

[carmine trout]

but if proviso is eepy wouldn't jt be worse?

[hidden wolf]

What skill of logos should i use

[light latch]

What are you hoping for saileach to provide

[raven ermine]

No it's still slightly better
Just try to do your rotations correctly to maximize proviso's uptime
Even then, you don't really need to, until you have good lv3 fac combos you want to run

[carmine trout]

Hmm if i downgrade trade to lvl2 i can make both factories level 2 or make one level 3

That way I'll have 4 level 3 factories, 1 level 1, and two trade outposts level 3 and 2 each

[raven ermine]

do you have a lv1 fac ? Downgrade one for lv2 instead

all factories should be lv2/3

[polar hollow]

dp

[carmine trout]

Ya rn at 540 power i have 3 max factories, one level 2 and one level 1

[raven ermine]

then downgrade either a lv3 fac, or proviso's trading post for lv2 factory instead

[carmine trout]

Hmm

[copper oracle]

prov should be at lv2 tp

proviso has a better bonus at lv2 tp vs lv3tp

[carmine trout]

Lemme see if i have her or not xD

[nimble kite]

You have Myrtle for that. What else?

[polar hollow]

but but myrtle isn't a shiny six star surely they're worse

[raven ermine]

Still produces more in a lv3 tp
It's just the lesser of both evil when you need to downgrade something

[light latch]

Myrtle generates 14 dp every 30 seconds
Saileach generates 18 dp every 34 seconds

[copper oracle]

by like 1% or smthing, assuming 30% generic tp as the other slots

[carmine trout]

Okay i have proviso

[simple mortar]

Is exualter module actually worth it to get?

[copper oracle]

the diff will be bigger with better tp partners

[raven ermine]

Yeah by not much, the gap is wider with good workers

[muted echo]

is 16-6 worth farming over supply stages?

[carmine trout]

Shes eeping rn in dorms

[copper oracle]

indeed

[carmine trout]

So downgrade a tp and make 2 factories instead?

[copper oracle]

amoya in cc can also close the gap a bit 🚬

[raven ermine]

Yeah downgrade one trading post and make upgrade your lv1 fac

[light latch]

Myrtle is also 2(4) dp less expensive than saileach, it takes like half to a full minute before saileach even actually generates more dp

[carmine trout]

Okay so rn my setup is 3 max facts 2 level 2 facts, 1 max tp and 1 lv2 tp

İ do have a spare 10 power tho

[raven ermine]

Can upgrade one dorm it doesn't matter much

[carmine trout]

Wouldn't making 1 one of the factories lvl 3 and keep the other at 1 be better or

[raven ermine]

252 max right with lv2 tp will have one dorm lv2

[carmine trout]

Ohh okay

Are the activity rooms worth building

[echo venture]

lvl 1 factory will cap quicker

[light latch]

That would cause the lvl1 factory to have a really low capacity

[echo venture]

so its better lvl 2

[carmine trout]

Gotcha

[raven ermine]

Yeah it's free, they don't cost power
Also allow more max drones, which is slightly qol and a buff to greyy2

[copper oracle]

how broken is grey

[raven ermine]

[echo venture]

he is breaking bad

[carmine trout]

Also i just came back like after a year

And im just genuinely surprised auto deploys only need u to clear the first run only

[echo venture]

yeah that's a pretty cool addition

devs listened.jpg

[carmine trout]

İ was like oh i didn't need to sit through 6 sittings of supply stages xD

[raven ermine]

Especially for 1-7

[onyx mango]

No more phone explodes :ya:

[carmine trout]

Real af

[warm spire]

Which skill should i specialize?

[raven ermine]

s3

[carmine trout]

Anyone have the resource farming doc

[raven ermine]

Use /material in #bot-spam

[echo venture]

/cnfarm for future events
/material for current stages

[light latch]

#bot-spam /material

[grave bramble]

When do chap16 h stages open?

[lone valley]

They already are

Since like, 12 hours ago or so

[grave bramble]

Am blind then

[vivid yew]

is pozyomka and jessica the liberated a good banner

[raven ermine]

Standard is bad

[vivid yew]

aight aight, is there an estimate date for when limited?

[spare jetty]

no

[wintry anvil]

I got Raidian is she good

[spare jetty]

always no until we get news from #game-news

[nimble kite]

Broken in IS6. Mid elsewhere.

[carmine beacon]

what skill masteries do I want on Mizuki?

[light latch]

s2

[spare jetty]

2

[shut ocean]

Hey guys just started the game. This is what i got from the first 10 pull. Is it gopd enough to keep? Who should i pick from the free vouchers? Who do i e2? Is there a fresh guide for 2026 somewhere? Thank you for the help.

[light latch]

You appear to have forgotten the image

And there is a guide pinned to this channel

[spare jetty]

📌

[shut ocean]

Thanks ill check that out

[iron wigeon]

i would reroll for either mantra or exalter

[nimble kite]

...well, not much. Take SilverAsh from voucher if you get it.

[iron wigeon]

wait, iirc the current standard banner has exalter in it right?

[spare jetty]

yeh

[raven ermine]

Yeah but imo exec is a bit of a bait

[green anvil]

It just normal exu right?

[nimble kite]

ExecutorAlter

[iron wigeon]

im talking about executor alter

[timid lion]

Hey, which one should i build for next six star OP?

[green anvil]

0-0 I’m sorry I’m dented

[nimble kite]

Leizi and Nightingale.

[timid lion]

But i've already have Mlynar and Haruka

[nimble kite]

Oh, Entelechia also an option.

[raven ermine]

leizi without contest
Then it depend what you play usually, for IS6 entel, for IS5 hoe, nightingale is niche

[spare jetty]

both r good

*ng is good for mass arts tanking

[nimble kite]

Mlynar having doesn't affect, but Nightingale can be skipped then.

[timid lion]

Mm, alright- this is my OP that i already build

[light latch]

Having more ops that blows enemies up doesnt hurt

[raven ermine]

As said above, leizi, then it depends

[timid lion]

Okay noted, i'll up both of them when got SA alter

[zinc fjord]

Worth using my sanity for energy?

[nimble kite]

Never ever do that. Sanity is too valuable to waste it like that.

[raven ermine]

No this is a terrible use of sanity

[quartz plover]

Who and what to m3 first
Sakiko
Trag
Mon3ter

[nimble kite]

Trag > Sakichan > Monsta

[spare jetty]

saki: s3m3
trag: s2m3
m3: s2>>s3

[eager totem]

is6 ed3 relic first doubt node i enter or first doubt node i see

[quartz plover]

M3 why s2 much more?

[spare jetty]

thats the skill ur going to use in general content