help

[urban sleet]

If you are open to rerolling can reroll on mantra, otherwise do single pulls until first 6 star on beginner banner

[eager totem]

ethan s1 or s2 m3

[heavy ember]

what is a good page to view operators info, i used to use aceship but it never load newer op info

[left tulip]

Wdym by rerolling? Is mantra one I should specifically be looking for ?

[urban sleet]

S1 is just for dot which works at sl1, s2 is what you m3 otherwise

[raven ermine]

s2m3 mod3

[urban sleet]

I use wiki

[eager totem]

and beanstalk which skil

[left tulip]

Or is mantra a mechanic idk of

[urban sleet]

Rerolling is making accounts by salting mail ids, eventually using the account in which you get your desired target, mantra is the current event rate-up 6 star

[boreal steeple]

None require you to e2, purestream can be

[raven ermine]

Rerolling is basically creating a new account, pulling singles with the currency you're given at the start, see if you hit a 6*, if you don't, you create a new account and try again

[formal shadow]

S2

[left tulip]

I see. Lowkey I might consider doing that with the banner coming out soon lol

[raven ermine]

Mantra is the featured one, but you can hit other good 6* as offrates, so feel free to ask if you don't know how good they are

[left tulip]

When do you optimally restart your account when rerolling

[eager totem]

is sakiko good to pick up in is6 as well? or do i want ulpi or someone else

[boreal steeple]

After pulling

[raven ermine]

There's a reroll guide in roadless camelot in pins

[urban sleet]

Pretty sure sakiko is a good pick in is6

[boreal steeple]

Sakiko is pretty good

[ebon plaza]

trying to make sense of this pull income calc, where is this 84 pulls coming from if i already clicked off all the natural orundum gain?

i forgot to send the photo loool

[left tulip]

Also, the support operator thing seems extremely abusable. Is there any downside to it that I’m unaware of?

[urban sleet]

You cant auto-deploy stages you borrow support for

[raven ermine]

You can't auto deploy a stage if you used a support
That's it really

[left tulip]

Damn so I can speedrun things thanks to it ig

[boreal steeple]

I think it explains everything here

[worldly estuary]

Yes

[left tulip]

Also, I got lappland from my 5 star recruitment thing, from the second 5 star one with only 4 options, is there one you guys specifically suggest?

[urban sleet]

Silence if you dont have her yet

[worldly estuary]

It’s already in the pinned messages of this channel tho
silence is a good option tho

[ebon plaza]

can i tweak that 50.8k orundum even more or is it baked into it

like i wanna start from scratch and then tick off all my sources one by one

[boreal steeple]

Its events grind until the desired event(including it)

[ebon plaza]

oh so it's future stuff? i see that makes sense then

[urban sleet]

A pull planner can only 'plan' for future yk

[wanton meadow]

Nobody tell em about the time machine in basement 4

[left tulip]

also, is there any way I can get 300 pulls by the time next limited banner comes around

[wanton meadow]

Next as in sash2 banner?

[worldly estuary]

If you recently started, only 💳

[wanton meadow]

Or next as in the one after sash2?

[raven ermine]

No, and don't spark anyway
If you're a wisadel fan or something, just consider borrowing

[left tulip]

I wouldn’t mind using originate

[worldly estuary]

Btw, you don’t need to have exactly 300 to pull. That’s only in case you want to spark, and it’s not recommended in any way for newbies

[left tulip]

What’s sparking?

[urban sleet]

F2p never saves for guarantee, f2p saves to the best of their abilities and prays that said by virtue of being a newbje you could farm a lot of since you have 0 cleared content

But get your base built before going gung-ho on that

[raven ermine]

When you pull on limited banners you get currency each pull
You can buy past limited in the "spark" shop against currency
200 for older ones, and 300 for old limiteds
I assume that's what you were trying to do

[left tulip]

Correct

[raven ermine]

That's a bad idea

[wanton meadow]

Well it's approximately 120 dollars plus minus currency differences for 60 pulls in originite prime, so for 300 pulls that's about 600 dollars 👍

[worldly estuary]

You should ignore the sparking system and just have fun pulling

[urban sleet]

You can save 300 as insurance but dont spark old ops as f2p unless you smh already reached 250 pulls for getting the rate-ups

[raven ermine]

Buying raw originite is for whales
We have packs that are closer to 1:1 ratio

[wanton meadow]

Well if he wants to get 300 pulls by sash2 he's gonna mostly buy OP

[raven ermine]

Another point proving why that's a bad idea

[worldly estuary]

^ monthly depends on how much time you have before the banner

[left tulip]

Well, I would also likely get the operator of the current banner at least?

Actually, guaranteed

[wanton meadow]

If you saved around 120-150pulls you're likely to get the rateups (still can get screwed but likely get them)

[urban sleet]

Sparking is never optimal even for wisadel if f2p since it's a lot of pulls invested to get ine good op whereas it could have been used to get multiple good ops, not to mention you are more likely to get dupes of rate-ups and dupes are meaningless in this game for the most part

[left tulip]

Wait why not, i thought you had free claim at 300

[worldly estuary]

176 was losing the hard pity?
100-150 is enough to guarantee at least 1

[raven ermine]

Yes, but you're spending a lot of pulls that you could spend on other good banners

Anyway, you won't reach 300 without spending, you don't have enough time to gather originite

[deft stump]

Should i roll for mantra?

[urban sleet]

Check pins as always

[raven ermine]

No ?
That's not the hard pity, and 100-150 is not even standard hard pity
This is not what a "guarantee" is

[wanton meadow]

I mean if you have like 500-600 dollars to throw into the game, sure go ahead and swipe, helps fund the game for f2p players

[worldly estuary]

Oh nvm then, I mixed up with other info

[urban sleet]

Yes fund monhun collab, smh dipped after a 36 sec teaser few days ago

[wanton meadow]

If it wasn't so tight in time you probably could've used packs to make the process a lot cheaper

But sash2 is like really close

[raven ermine]

You're very likely to get one at 150, but the only hard pity on limited banners is 300 for the limited one
On standard, it's next 6* after 150

[left tulip]

Well, if we consider the entire duration of next banner, that leaves me some time still no?

[glass panther]

Just E2 ines, which should I specialize

[ivory terrace]

s2

[worldly estuary]

I see. Thanks

[wanton meadow]

Not long enough to get you significantly more packs, since they usually refresh by month or event

[raven ermine]

Even then, "a lot cheaper" is usually 0.8-1 ratio
So around 300 bucks still

[severe ravine]

Hi, I'm a former leviathan player around Rank 120 who just got back into playing the game after quitting from burnout around 2023. Yes, I know I missed several limited meta operators (😭) Right now, I'm planning on saving as much currency and materials so I could possibly spark/pull for Exu Alter and Lemuen if they ever get a rerun/get added to the limited pool around October. Is there any other operators I should pull for or look out for???

As a player who just came back, some content like certain skins and alter operators both amaze and kill me on the inside since they came out when I was busy with life and didn't plan on coming back to the game until now 💀

[urban sleet]

Banner priority in pins

[wanton meadow]

Banner prio doesn't apply to them, this is leviathan

[severe ravine]

Idek if that's like the saddest circumstance for a leviathan player or what, but it hoenstly feels good to get back into this game

[raven ermine]

It does, they asked who to look out for

[urban sleet]

I mean it tells them who to look out for

[wanton meadow]

Not gonna pull everything character?

[urban sleet]

Money doesnt grow on trees

[severe ravine]

If it helps, I want to know which limited ops are meta so I can do AFK/High end strats like a no brain bummmmm

[raven ermine]

They're the ones setting their parameters

[hexed adder]

They said former

[wanton meadow]

What was the last banner you were on?

[urban sleet]

Just check this, theres really only upcoming limited and cny linited to look out for

[raven ermine]

Wisadel, exu2, shu, for limited meta units, that's it really

[left tulip]

Also, I’ve been looking through them a bit, but is there one of the links that suggests me just what to dump time and resources into early on? I’m not sure what to look for
~~ Also I’m not a wisadel fan I’m a lappland fan. ~~

[urban sleet]

Wang 🥀

[raven ermine]

Wang obviously but he's upcoming, not past

[urban sleet]

You were told twice to check pins weren't you

[left tulip]

Ik im going through, but what name do i look for in there

[urban sleet]

Unless I ENed they didnt ask for just past meta limited ops

[severe ravine]

It was the MH collab if I remember

Last six star I got was Ines

[hexed adder]

They just want to spark exialt and obtain lemuen and asked for future meta ops

[severe ravine]

Ah okay good, I'm an Exu fan so I want to max her out

[raven ermine]

You're right, but they were told about upcoming prio, so

[urban sleet]

The very last pin (or rather first in chornological order)

[severe ravine]

I recently got an Exu apple plushie at an anime convention and she called out to me to get back into AK like the Green Goblin Mask 😭 😭 😭

[raven ermine]

None of those are really usable afk units tho
Low inputs sure, but their afk skill is pretty bad

[severe ravine]

Oh, I don't mind that at all

[hexed adder]

Offrate p6 crazy (stare at my ulpi)

[marble viper]

guys where is tw-3

[mild yacht]

Twilight of Wolumonde

[wanton meadow]

Exu2, lemuen, hoshi2, haruka, tragodia, leizi2, what else?

[raven ermine]

What's 1800 pulls for a leviathan anyway 🚬

Oh yeah hoshi 2 also for past limited

[severe ravine]

You have no idea bro, I'm gonna try my best even if I know I'm lowkey am gonna die on the inside, I'm planning on grinding Intelligence Certs just for that Specialist Tokens just in case

[raven ermine]

Red certs, you can't grind intell certs, those are rerun currency

[wanton meadow]

Oh 2023 so that was before ulpianus too right?

[severe ravine]

Sorry, I typed the wrong name

[severe ravine]

Yeah

[eager totem]

what are those eating flowers range
8 surrounding tiles or 4 adjacent tiels?

[raven ermine]

8

[severe ravine]

And what I meant by former leviathan, I had like 65% of the six star ops pot 6, I was an absolute menace back then

[hexed adder]

The whaler dude (not Leviathan) ik always hoard tokens from gold certs for that reason. welp its ur life ur choice

[raven ermine]

Well sure, if you're willing to spend that much, aim for meta ops, we don't have any upcoming outside of sash2/pram2/wang/chen3

[marble viper]

chen3

[raven ermine]

What's wrong with chen3 🥹

[marble viper]

the 3 is just...

why is there a 3

[raven ermine]

Yeah, complain to HG, i'm not the one making the rules, it's her third iteration

[severe ravine]

If I remember, Lemuen isn't limited. Would it be better if I just wait until the unlikely chance she appears as a rate-up on a banner?

[raven ermine]

It would always be better than trying to offrate her

[split sphinx]

just buy $30 selector

[marble viper]

that unlikely chance is like 1/30-40

[split sphinx]

if you assume selection is truly random, it's like 1/25

[wanton meadow]

Pls let there be a selector in sash2 event

[hexed adder]

She will be on the ~7 months selector

[eager totem]

why do i have price increase

huh i dont remember seeing such in the guided tour thing

[spare jetty]

your
hour
debuff

[eager totem]

its the dim hour i found it nvm

[urban sleet]

Bro got the chalice but at what cost

[raven ermine]

golden chalice in shop 🥹

[eager totem]

i forgot about that mechanic entirely

[wanton meadow]

Wurf

[marble viper]

well he still got 20 left

[severe ravine]

Also for IS2 and Reclamation Algorithm, are they worth coming back to? I didn't play RA since it came out the time I quit but for someone who isn't a huge roguelike guy, I had my ups and downs with IS2, so I'm very curious about the previous themes (I think I quit around the Mizuki theme?)

[eager totem]

i still got a floor to farm ingots dont worry

[wanton meadow]

You could go back and grind out the battlepasses of older IS if you haven't finished them

[formal shadow]

Shop rob :clueless:

[wanton meadow]

And RA2 shop does have a lot of resources

[formal shadow]

Actually wait is it 100 invest for that?

[eager totem]

just unlocked
50 invest

[marble viper]

normaly i think

[formal shadow]

Couldn't remember :ya:

[raven ermine]

There are a lot of rewards for IS/RA
RA is cheesable with the glowstick method, you can find it in roadless in pins
IS is just, play and progress the reward track

[marble viper]

really? is that all is? i don't think is3 like that

[urban sleet]

This is is6

[raven ermine]

that's for IS6 yeah
Past IS was higher

[formal shadow]

Idk what Can Doe does in shop rob

[marble viper]

well is 6 and 5 is easier to invest

[raven ermine]

pretty sure 5 was 100 too

[formal shadow]

I'm ass at is5 shop rob

[wanton meadow]

I had to go back and build my 3stars for IS2

Just when I'm hitting my broke moment too

No xp no gold no resource

[marble viper]

f4 plus or f3 below? f3 below ive never done tbh

[formal shadow]

F4+. I don't early shop rob

[marble viper]

by floor 4 it should be easy tbh

[formal shadow]

I somehow keep screwing it up :ya:

Either stunning cannot or leaking 1 top lane

[raven ermine]

IS5 rob ? I find it pretty straightforward ngl

[marble viper]

:ya: just don't use walter

[eager totem]

which ending is the butterylfy thing again

[green anvil]

wait how do we rob is5 shop? i can't do that

[ebon plaza]

is the event shop supply crate worth buying? the 10 sanity thing looks kinda promising

[worldly estuary]

After completing all the other items from the event store ig

[ebon plaza]

i mean over the manganese or kohl, naturally i'm cleaning shop first

[raven ermine]

You need to invest at least 100 ingots first
Then there's a "touch the wares" button or smth, idr exactly, bottom left, just spam click it and fight cannot

[worldly estuary]

If you have >40-50 of manganese or kohl, I’d spend on them

[worn drift]

I dont have time to do story rn, where should I burn my sanity for now?

[green anvil]

ahh i see

[worldly estuary]

1-7, red cert, pre farm mats

[raven ermine]

I would buy the crates over kohl/manganese
It's basically 10% sanity return for the entire duration of the event, with random mats on top

[wraith shoal]

what do you need so many rocks for if you're not farming orundum in base?

[worn drift]

1-7 is for the rock farming right? is it worth doing for beginner- midgame player? I meant the orundum base farm

[raven ermine]

T3s and higher rocks
You usually don't farm rocks in event and farm another t3 mat instead

[hidden nacelle]

orundum base farm is not worth doing even for late game player

[brazen gulch]

i would say this in the opposite order but yeah

[raven ermine]

Absolutely not
Don't even consider it

[hidden nacelle]

rock farming is what you do for orundum anyways innit

[worldly estuary]

Yeah lol, I just said examples of sanity dump

[slate ridge]

a lot of ops use rocks to raise anyway
20k T3 rocks to raise everyone is a long marathon

[raven ermine]

You don't farm 1-7 for oru
You farm 1-7 for raising ops

[marble viper]

you farm 1-7 for The Rock

[hidden nacelle]

farm 1-8 to be different

[raven ermine]

Ew t2 poly

[worn drift]

aigth thanks all, will spam 1-7 for now, or red cert sometimes

[marble viper]

ethan just m1 or go to m3

[hidden nacelle]

just m3 4atar is cheapa

[brazen gulch]

m3 is the one that boosts 2.5x talent bonus to 3x so m3

[eager totem]

wtf are stray geistlings
the statuegeists?

[hidden nacelle]

isn't that pass exp

[eager totem]

oh

ur right

[marble viper]

well im steadly raisin my 4 stars, just did the first one pinecone

[ivory mural]

How do i increase my trust?

[marble viper]

altho i still don't have all pot 6 4 stars

[wraith shoal]

base and just by using the ops

[echo venture]

spending sanity (they have to be in the squad)
assigning them as control center assistant
putting them in dorms and activity rooms

[brazen gulch]

just using them in base also works, but it's less trust

[ivory mural]

👍

[worn drift]

if I bring an operator to a stage but I dont deploy em, do I still gain trust?

[paper swan]

Yes

[fringe plinth]

Should I farm tier 3 Orion in 10-11 or 14-12?

The bot says to farm 10-11, but Penguin stats has 14-12 listed with better drop rates

[ancient lintel]

14-12 is uncommon and 10-11 is rare iirc, do do 14-12

[urban sleet]

Erm in-game description is redundant

[ivory terrace]

consult peteryr spreadsheet instead
or his video if he has one for ch16 release

[signal dragon]

hi tenders

[raven ermine]

Penguin just takes the best efficiency for the item you're looking for
The bot sheet has sidedrops calc'd into it
If you care only for oriron, farm 14-12
If sidedrops of 10-11 hold value to you, farm 10-11 instead

[modern pilot]

What operators are good landholders? I have sakiko and SA but both of them on skill 3 for what I need. Who else can hold lanes pretty well?

[eager totem]

what do u have

[brazen gulch]

there are a lot. you could send your krooster and we can tell the notable ones

[fringe plinth]

Hey

[urban sleet]

Sakiko with s3 holds lanes well enough for me press skill when elites spawn

[brazen gulch]

btw i personally have no idea how this works out for so many people. do you place additional dps to help her and count that as her holding the lane or? because my togawa has like 800 atk off s3 and 600 physical damage per attack, ST is just nowhere near enough in most stages for me

[urban sleet]

Does haruka count as additional dmg

[brazen gulch]

'course

[urban sleet]

She's no ulpi or zuo le for sure

[glass panther]

Who should I e2 next? I just e2 ines

[opaque remnant]

In stage 16-12 cuora died in 3 hits, do I need mod or smth

[urban sleet]

She needs a medic ofc, 2 if e1 max iirc

[modern pilot]

Here is my krooster. I am using both saki and SA for different roles, so I need a third landholder so I don’t have to put two operators on a lane to free up a deployment slot.

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/bri

[urban sleet]

-# Raidian

Those skill levels traumatise me

[raven ermine]

You're fine not e2ing anyone for now and doing masteries if that's not done already
If you want to e2 it would be eyja > saria, but both are pretty low prio

[opaque remnant]

What’s best to stall the bear in the meantime while setting up

[raven ermine]

Use cheap ranged units, and make him move back and forth

[opaque remnant]

The 3 stars have a use case?

[urban sleet]

Bring out your e0 snipers trust

[urban sleet]

Silvergun beat the stage with 3 stars and below

[raven ermine]

yeah, orchid would work just fine there

[brazen gulch]

surtr, lappland, matsukiri s2 for weaker enemies of those that you already have leveled can all lanehold decently

[raven ermine]

no need to upgrade anything too, just make the boss struggle to move forward

[urban sleet]

I am more worried about those skill levels than laneholding honestly

[raven ermine]

Surtr absolutely can not lanehold

[torn creek]

is krooster safe to import or should i just do it manually?

[urban sleet]

Safe to import, if it isnt 70% of the playerbase is with you

[eager totem]

humus can work without additional help

[plain frigate]

Which skill should I m3 for hoshi alter

[wraith shoal]

s3

[urban sleet]

S3>S2 (can alsp just do s3 tbh)

[green anvil]

humus is so fun too use and i love it XD

[brazen gulch]

nvm surtr, somehow confused her s2 with blaze's

[raven ermine]

Yeah her s2 wouldn't be that bad to lanehold, but she's block1, so dead on arrival

[brazen gulch]

if they're willing to put a defender behind her it'd be chill but i guess that doesn't count as lane holding anymore

[raven ermine]

Nah just use a defender and kroos/steward/anything really atp

[brazen gulch]

hm true

[boreal steeple]

3stars and below are useful. https://youtu.be/n4b3K9EfhMw?si=sDxF3OgSIkDqRLg4 my lowend guide, myrtle is optional
There is a way to optimize my clear more btw

[severe nexus]

Eyja caster 2nd mod worth getting?

[green storm]

Are hell stages out for ch16

[inland scroll]

is IS end game content?

[sleek finch]

more like mid game
but if you are sweaty enough, you can do it early game too

[random shard]

Only the highest difficulty. The rest are very achievable with a moderate roster and borrows

[twin dawn]

does this debuff reset when they get become unaffected by the debuff or stays and will continue to decrease?

[ancient lintel]

not really
end game stuff is like A15+
if ur sticking around A0 - A5 then it's more of a casual playthrough then like super difficult stuff lol

[karmic urchin]

exu2 s2 or s3 for maximum damage?

[ancient lintel]

2

you use 3 if u wanna mess around with the rdp mechanic

[junior heath]

Why I can t see h16-1 ?

[marble viper]

what is the bears area of aggro

[junior heath]

Oh tanks !

[boreal steeple]

Entire map as long as the first attack during phase1, and it resets after stuns/other type of stun/after it killed someone
Phase 2 throws stone onto the most dmg dealer and melee attacks closest enemy/ally

[rustic yoke]

where can i find WB-6?

[chrome dagger]

Dumb question, how do I unlock simulation? I cleared 16-9 all under adverse combat and unlocked up to EG-9 too but I have 0 simulation points. I know H- stages unlock this coming Thurs, does simulation unlock on Thurs too?

[boreal steeple]

No, simulation is there. Choose adverse and choose simulation at the right top, switch>choose debuffs

[chrome dagger]

Omg how did I miss all those thank you

[boreal steeple]

S2 is better on higher defense, s3 on very low defense. S3 also gets better buffs by allies from aspd
Both kinda same in dps unless higher defense

[left tulip]

The operators you can spark are specific to a certain limited banner, or whenever there is one, all "sparkable" operators can be sparked?

[boreal steeple]

Depends on limited banner

[raven ermine]

S3 mostly is better when buffed by atk%, compared to s2
Aspd would make it cycle slightly faster, but nothing great imo

[raven ermine]

Each limited can only be sparked on the same banner type than the one they debuted in
We have 3, both anniversary (CN) banners are called celebrations, summer banner, and CNY banners

[brazen gulch]

where vernal winds will never blow i believe. one of the "through the ages" side stories

yep

[void ivy]

Should I E2 Thorns or Surtr first?

[waxen flame]

help with sextet cm

haruku and mon3tr cant outheal the damage reflection

[split sphinx]

Surtr

[brazen gulch]

if you're talking about the ch16 slugs, you're not supposed to outright kill them. make miners disable their reflect first. that or bring even more healing if you can get away with it

[hidden nacelle]

thorns does nothing without e2
surtr does very little without e2

depending on the rest of your account I'd honestly say maybe thorns --given that you can get module as well

[velvet mortar]

I already have the item "Dull Originium" from 16-13 in my depot, why can't I unlock the EG-7 secret ? Do I have to finish all upto 19 ?

[left tulip]

Is there any consequence to losing if your sanity is refunded

[brazen gulch]

wasted time i guess, otherwise nope

[waxen flame]

not that, this one

this is the problem 😭 these guys kill my ops with reflection

[formal shadow]

Use the stage mechanic

Swap the music

[waxen flame]

idk man, bruteforcing it looks very tempting

[slate ridge]

bruteforce harder then

[pallid cloak]

Then bruteforce it

[formal shadow]

Just do it

[slate ridge]

its just 20 hp barrier
break it before you die and no more reflect

[formal shadow]

Mon3tr s3 frfr

[ivory terrace]

how does that shield interact with necrosis DoT

[formal shadow]

Well necrosis dot is sourceless so

[ivory terrace]

does it also take 1 shield per tick of damage or

[formal shadow]

I'd imagine so. I never used tutu during her event

[waxen flame]

i cant 😭 the reflection is killing me

[hexed adder]

With ur ops u can

[waxen flame]

the 2nd wave of shield ones appear when my haruka isnt on skill, so they end up nuking themselves

is trag NI sourceless

[hexed adder]

U don't really need tuner or what is it called again

[zinc spruce]

Is there any guide for new players ,I just started

[formal shadow]

The NI itself is sourceless but trag s2 cat damage is sourced

[hexed adder]

Just skill issue atp

[waxen flame]

oh im using s3

[formal shadow]

Well his attacks itself are sourced

[pallid cloak]

https://youtu.be/o7bpP0SGypU

[formal shadow]

I tend to forget trag s2 is sourced and accidentally nuke himself on a reflect chest

[hexed adder]

I remember beating that cm with teq, manti and forgot the rest of 5*. Even without changing tune

[formal shadow]

Yeah the reflect isn't that bad if you aren't trying to wis s3 it

[boreal steeple]

Looks degenbrecherable

[waxen flame]

tysm

[waxen flame]

what..

[formal shadow]

I bet I could do it with rats

[waxen flame]

for some reason mantra s3 dies too idk

[boreal steeple]

Cuz its reflect

[formal shadow]

Her s3 has big burst 🥀

[hexed adder]

Cuz attention

[waxen flame]

what i thought the bounce is traceless so uh, yeah she dies in 0.1 sec of using s3 🥀

[formal shadow]

Yeah that's sourced

[boreal steeple]

Use when they have no shield, easy

[waxen flame]

they always have it!

[blazing laurel]

whats the best way to catch up quickly

[waxen flame]

complete the stages

[slate ridge]

if you have every stage maxed should barely max bp hm

worst case scenario manual last day ig

[waxen flame]

you need to focus on maxing the bp resource

[waxen flame]

max this out on all stages

[blazing laurel]

thx

[worldly zealot]

what module do i invest in for ascalon?

[waxen flame]

i bought 4 medics and haruka, it finally worked, trag for sourceless NI dmg with shu + ulpi blocking ty

[eager totem]

x1 for the slow

[worldly zealot]

ty

[warm rock]

I have now lost 3 nearly perfect runs on difficulty 2 of IS6. I use Raidian’s skill 1 exactly as the guides say when Yi spawns. The summons die to Yi way faster than I can place down another, and I get team-wiped. Not sure what I’m doing wrong…the skill 1 summons just die nearly immediately.

[eager totem]

might be because radian is only e1

[warm rock]

Nope. She’s the support operator I pick at the start. E2 with a high level.

[waxen dove]

why are they black?

[marble viper]

Collapsal debuff i think

[knotty wave]

you have the debuff

[eager totem]

did u die to the explosions or to yi

[waxen dove]

what debug

[warm rock]

Explosions

[eager totem]

did u block him??

[marble viper]

Ofc the summons die to the explosions

[warm rock]

He spawns at the very top, I put the summon to box him into the place he spawned

The ghost thingies spawn, kill my summon and he escapes.

[marble viper]

Just summon another one after the ghost explosions

[eager totem]

and what made u lose huh
u can put the operators at the bottom if yi’s at top

[marble viper]

Im confused cause from the sounds of it u did everything correctly so far

[warm rock]

Yeah. Yi walks to the bottom.

[marble viper]

Then block him

[eager totem]

yeh werent u blocking him with maxed radian summons

[twin dawn]

is there anypoint farming the new chapter for materials for event tokens after i complete all stages or can i just do whatever i want now?

[warm rock]

The summons die faster than I can place another summon to block him.

[marble viper]

Well did u clear the shop yet (anything that you wanted), if u did sure u are free

[eager totem]

how did he manage to use skill

[warm rock]

What do you mean how did he manage to use the skill? It’s just something that happens when he’s on the map.

[gloomy sundial]

When you borrow a raidian I'm pretty sure it still uses your proficiencies/skill levels

[boreal steeple]

Only proficiencies dont count(for a borrow)

[eager totem]

man idk the guide says he only uses the explosion thing when hes not blocked

[boreal steeple]

Can during blocking

[gloomy sundial]

Well that probably makes the difference, some of the proficiencies affect summon deployment time/cost

[eager totem]

do u have any other operators that can defend

[marble viper]

Bro has no ground troops or frd

[eager totem]

i think u wait out the waves of explosion before deploying more summons

[stray flame]

Do you still need candleguest for e4 is6

[marble viper]

E4

[stray flame]

im doubting myself

[gloomy sundial]

I had better luck borrowing tragodia on my first few runs and stalling with trag s2 + gravel

[stray flame]

so like do we still need candleguest status for e4

[lusty prawn]

how good is mantra

[teal latch]

I know the bonus level (e.g. H16-1) unlock stuff is published on websites & stuff, but are there any clues in the levels or chapters as to how to unlock them? I'm thinking like cracked walls in Zelda kind of things.

[gloomy sundial]

H stages don't open until next week. If you're referring to the secret endings, stages that have them have clues in the stage description about how to complete them

[twin dawn]

but we can earn shop tokens clearing any stage right? Like 1-7, not just the new chapter

im asking whether there's any bonus to farming the latest chapter stages or not with regards to getting the shop cleared out

[teal latch]

ahh reading 🙂

[icy condor]

would any of reccomend me to pull on the upcoming joint banner with GG Degen Ho'olyeak and Lemuen if I don't have anyone of those characters? (I only have Ray as my Sniper, but I have Lapp2 and Logos already)

[hasty mauve]

can thorns alter s2 hit invisible enemies?

[undone portal]

no guarantee any of those operators stay on the banner, joint op/orienteering are subject to change when they arrive in global
depends on how much of a loss you consider pulling ho'olheyak

[gloomy sundial]

If you've cleared all the stages and claimed all the time-limited missions, you can just farm any story or supply stage now

[icy condor]

Ahhh, okay-okay thanks. What's the best possible characters that could be in the banner?

[undone portal]

lemuen >>> gg/degen > ho'ol

[icy condor]

Lowk would say that GG is a loss for me considering I already have Logos, Eyja1 and Lapp2

Hopefully Lemuen would be on Gold Cert Shop so I can get her that way instead

[gloomy sundial]

Sure if you want to wait a year for her 😂

[icy condor]

lol

[warm basalt]

It is worth it? Hibiscus alter module

[hexed adder]

Collector usually just certs em yea, spending pulls just.. even on their debut (unless u feel lucky ig)

[undone portal]

if you have yu, having gg would let you cope burnslop comp

[undone portal]

its a nice boost, but i cant recommend it unless you already bring hibialt everywhere

[echo venture]

not many people here have raised her so thats a tough question.
at most id just use mod level 1. but that's assuming you like using her in all stages

if you're not going to use her then it's not justifiable

[undone portal]

more arts fragile means other arts dps also get to benefit from it, which is better than what most 5star modules can claim
the issue is justifying bringing hibi herself

[hexed adder]

Its good module, but i wont say its worth unless u really dependent on her on ur team (or ur niche), just use it on more notable ops

[spark crane]

Hi guys I just started do I keep or go for something else

[ancient lintel]

keep the account ye

[spark crane]

This was from singles

[ancient lintel]

you got 1 of the best offrates from rerolling

[hexed adder]

Pulls single until 1 6* on newbie banner then save

[spark crane]

Do I save or go for someone? Olso should I do the starter banner for the guaranteed

[undone portal]

logos is really nice, like kirn says just pull for your beginner banner 6star then start saving

[spark crane]

Ok thanks

[hexed adder]

Good limited banner soon, just save after that ye

[ancient lintel]

do singles on starter banner till first 6* then dip and save for silverash the reign frost and pramanix the prerita

[spark crane]

Ok thanks

[hexed adder]

Check pins for prio banners btw

[boreal steeple]

Putting gg and degen in the same place is illegal

[undone portal]

idk they seem both on that 'pretty good dps if you dont have better options' tier imo

[hexed adder]

Its more like they are outdated u are not prio em (like ori said also)

[undone portal]

idk i play is/sss a lot so i might be overvaluing gg

[hexed adder]

Indeed, very funny there

[undone portal]

for gen content degens definitely better unless youre like me and your gen content steamroller is burnslop

[lyric lagoon]

torchwood slop 🥀

[boreal steeple]

Even for IS degen is better, gg global slop

[lyric lagoon]

torchwood slop is so inconvenient at times

[undone portal]

idk most gen content stages dont ask for anything stronger than a 55s map wipe
if you need to cycle it faster thats what the other suiblings are for

[hexed adder]

U can use whatever ye (its gen content)

[humble nova]

Is degenbreacher just a good hook with dps?

[pale tapir]

chen but better but better with vacuum powers

[scenic hare]

Should I go for Saria e2 first or after Qiubai e2

[alpine lance]

Is it worth pulling for снегурочка rn? I kinda need her base slave skill. I forgot how 4* rates work

[brazen gulch]

would leizi s2 or s3 deal more damage to https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Sui_(Sui's_Garden_of_Grotesqueries) here, 800 def/50 res? or is there not an immediately obviously better option here? sorry basically never use those two skills, need a vibe check from someone who does

[pseudo flume]

Nah

[brazen gulch]

the red is the enemy hitbox

[pseudo flume]

Check #is-station pins, look in drafts within the IS6 doc

[alpine lance]

S3 cause the hand is big so the lightning will hit it multiple times

[alpine lance]

There is a chance to get her on the sash2 banner right?

[undone portal]

qiubai first, s3s her main skill
sarias mostly functional already at e1 so get to her when you have no higher priorities

[boreal steeple]

Leizi uses s3 to clear left side

[pseudo flume]

She's always available in every banner now

Same old rules for the 4★s

[mild turtle]

what's the strat for c16 bear

[alpine lance]

Alright I'll be patient

[hexed adder]

yeah very likely (don't be like me 4 months without vigna)

[pale tapir]

easy strat is decel binder stall then tank with a silencer and medics

[alpine lance]

DEF

[undone portal]

snegurochka in base is just for gold production, which you should be able to handle fine already before you have her

[mild turtle]

suzu + lapp then

[pale tapir]

no you need like 3-5 decel binders

[undone portal]

easier strat is bringing in hoshiguma

[pale tapir]

yeah if you have haruka and a def brick just use that

[boreal steeple]

Stall or ~1.2k def defender borrow
https://youtu.be/n4b3K9EfhMw?si=sDxF3OgSIkDqRLg4 lowend

[undone portal]

bear gets 2op'd by bubble + jaye. never forget this

[hexed adder]

Jaye vs infected experience

[boreal steeple]

4 is already enough to cycle them

[alpine lance]

I do, but getting that weedy+water company+not E2 eunectes combo will be useful

[pale tapir]

yeah but you have to deploy in certain order otherwise deployment times will screw with u
also depends on which ops u use
for example if I try to deploy earthspirit first before orchid podenco or beanstalk by the end of the rotation bear walks out of stall range before anyone is back up

[mild turtle]

i do have haruka, only thing is i need a def brick

[pale tapir]

cuora or bubble or borrowed hoshi nian etc ez
then silencer to stop phase 2 rock throw
and a dps so u don't have to wait 5000 years for it to die

[boreal steeple]

Bear has strange aggro so i didnt stall much with beanstalk like in my video clear

[pale tapir]

haruka can also tank rocks but u might need a supporting medic when for she gets stunned

[boreal steeple]

I think she doesn't need it

[hexed adder]

Outside simulation she can tank rock just fine ye

[pale tapir]

no I mean if she's stunned your defender might die idk

[mild yacht]

Funny part is, lv90 Tragodia in Eyja2 s1 tanks the rocks just fine.

[pseudo flume]

Easiest Strat is Exu2 + Mr Nothing

[boreal steeple]

Oh, this one's true but you can use defender skill even if that happens

[boreal steeple]

Nothing is mod3 and exu2 e1

[covert ravine]

How are my operators looking so far?😭😭

[mild yacht]

-# But… Lee stun ignore.

[mild turtle]

just realised my only e2d medic is mon3tr

[brazen gulch]

you're fine, don't invest into manticore or amiya too deeply

[pseudo flume]

Fairly good selection tbh

[boreal steeple]

Gen content isn't hard so it's fine comp

[pale tapir]

looks like u made the account 2 hours ago, so you're fine tbh

[covert ravine]

What about specter?

[pseudo flume]

E2 Ticket her

[mild turtle]

just gotta keep refreshing for a mod3 mr.nothing

[covert ravine]

Oki

[boreal steeple]

Specter e2 and get tequila

[undone portal]

you mean you didnt build him already for exodia?

[mild turtle]

i don't have mr. nothing.

[mild yacht]

-# Modding for base skills

[mild turtle]

also what is exodia

[tranquil crane]

Do we know when the H stages will unlock?

[mild yacht]

[brazen gulch]

i would personally say don't go beyond E1 like level 40/50 even if you have a gun pointed at you, and instead use the e2 ticket on tequila like it used to be recommended, but this channel's overall consensus shifted towards "it's fine" so /shrug

[alpine lance]

The base $$$ machine

[mild turtle]

and who are the members of this exodia, other than mr nothing

[alpine lance]

There a bunch of em, but mostly Sui siblings

[signal dragon]

dusk, ling, chongyue + (Wang when he's released)
2 other sui in base
whisp/mullberry
ros for factory
Mr nothing tp

[left tulip]

Should I ever not do the 6 star guaranteed pull of the welcome banner

[signal dragon]

wdym?

oh just do singles for first 6*
unless you're rerolling

[waxen dove]

can i do rebeuiling mandate in 4 days.

[undone portal]

• ch'3n in rr (directly benefits from worldly plight), saileach in cc (to cover for mulberry having lower office speed)

[left tulip]

Ohh, like, and not the 10 in one go in the possibility I somehow get it earlier?

[fathom nest]

If you're starting from zero you won't finish the medals

[waxen dove]

i want 18 blue box

[hexed adder]

probably u could, if u max efficiency all of them. a bit point grind on last day. Assuming from 0

[waxen dove]

from 0,yes.

[fathom nest]

Having to manual for pennies sounds like such torture

[slate ridge]

if you manual for 8-11 hours maybe

[hexed adder]

Then play the game, install ak first if not

[waxen dove]

id rather die

is there no easy way

[hexed adder]

No thats easy way

[slate ridge]

my manuals are 800 points per 5 mins so just calc it until you get 432k ig

[left tulip]

Oh, 3rd roll, I didn’t expect it to actually happen. How is he?

[waxen dove]

45 hours

[robust thistle]

"Guy who skipped all classes and only showed up on exam day"

this is too much effort, can I just graduate

[waxen dove]

Ass now that sakiko exists

[left tulip]

What does that mean

[undone portal]

pretty mid, but worth building if you Really need a laneholder and dont have better options
thorns is a guy btw

[lyric lagoon]

sakiko isn’t the reason why he’s ass

[nimble kite]

Shit.

[robust thistle]

implying sakiko is a standard operator

[left tulip]

I assume I’m not getting another 6 star if I do 10 rolls

[waxen dove]

bro
im tired of yall
relativity is a thing

[lyric lagoon]

bro just typing shit atp

[robust thistle]

You can, its 2% chance

[undone portal]

also implying sakiko s2 is a reasonable thorns replacement, which after thorough testing i cannot reasonably call it one

[waxen dove]

what? your testing is wrong

[left tulip]

Is this worth rerolling my account over, are some of the other operators way better

[lyric lagoon]

your target is silverash but you can just pick him from the voucher

[fathom nest]

Reroll for Mantra unless you feel like waiting a month or so to play

[lyric lagoon]

if anything, don’t reroll on beginner banner and reroll on standard

[brazen gulch]

it reliably replaced blaze s2 and thorns s3 in every single guide i followed with zero brain effort

[left tulip]

Is mantra actually worth it? That seems a lot more grindy than getting another 6 star. Also, why do you say a month?

[severe crypt]

Around a month is when we get a really good banner

[pale tapir]

silverash alter / pramanix alter banner coming up soonish

[fathom nest]

She's strong, just not really worth rolling for an established account unless you're above a certain amount of pulls

[worn drift]

how many pulls u realistically can get per month?

[unkempt pollen]

i’m guessing if i plan on sparking on sui banner again i should skip mantra

[left tulip]

What did you mean by the "waiting for a month" thing?

[unkempt pollen]

f2p or with monthly? spending OP?

[undone portal]

if you plan on sparking on sui banner you need to start saving like, yesterday

[fathom nest]

Depends on the event schedule, but you get 25 just from completing dailies

[severe crypt]

Around a month is when we get a really good banner

[unkempt pollen]

i have like 350 pulls in the bag atm

[worn drift]

with monthly and OP

[fathom nest]

They told you, strong limited banner coming

[unkempt pollen]

80-90 if you’re diligent

[left tulip]

Would it be worth to delay making an account until then, and reroll for that banner then

[undone portal]

then yea just hold onto it. mantras not worth throwing a spark out if thats your plan

[lyric lagoon]

just reroll for mantra and start saving up pulls

[unkempt pollen]

if you really want to have a strong start, but i think a month of saving is more worthwhile esp since you’ll get newbie income

[worn drift]

nice, need 150 more to spark in Silverash2

[fathom nest]

Entirely up to you. I personally wouldn't wait. I'd start now, then reroll again if I don't get them

[waxen dove]

im currently at 110 pulls any way i can make that number go till 200 before saalt

[unkempt pollen]

rip tall hag 💔

[undone portal]

wang pots are honestly pretty good, best place to be sparking on the horizon

[unkempt pollen]

maybe

[left tulip]

Alright. Guide on how to reroll in pins I assume?

[pale tapir]

yes in roadless

[waxen dove]

how

[lyric lagoon]

before sashalt, meh, during sashalt you can get about 50 pulls just from the event itself

[unkempt pollen]

oh shiiit i forgot next sui is wang

[lyric lagoon]

(assuming you don’t get abyssmal dogshit on orundum lottery)

[pale tapir]

do u think ch3n pots are worth? considering skipping sashter because I want pot6 chengus but idk

[waxen dove]

all my ops will go to skin soo

[unkempt pollen]

same as you always get pulls; dailies, weeklies, events, first clears, cert shop, etc.

[waxen dove]

i dont have any first clears left

[unkempt pollen]

subtract 24 pulls from that 200 count too since it’s a limited banner

[fathom nest]

Make sure you're using recruit frequently too. Gold certs add up

[unkempt pollen]

there’s an event that comes with the banner

[waxen dove]

thats included in the 50~

[waxen dove]

i ran out of them ive been farming certs for so long 🥀

[unkempt pollen]

it’s not, neither is the daily orundum tag pulling thing

[waxen dove]

how do you get 50 then?

[unkempt pollen]

limited banners tend to come with bonus pulls, unsurprisingly

[undone portal]

lower impact but also pretty good

[unkempt pollen]

do you want me to list every source of orundum or something

[waxen dove]

wang p3 is pretty broken right?

[unkempt pollen]

we also don’t know exactly when the banner is so i can’t even tell you if i wanted to

[waxen dove]

you only get 50 pulls bro
14ish from event
3 from event shop
10ish from orundum lottery
10 free pull
14 daily free pull

[undone portal]

lets him store one more piece. maxes his setup nuke potential

[waxen dove]

and no wait you only get like 11 from event

[unkempt pollen]

where’s certs? pull returns? annihilation???

[undone portal]

p5 takes him from 36 > 39res ignore

[waxen dove]

yeah
lowlights my moms kinda homeless can i get a p6 wang in 10 pulls

[unkempt pollen]

wtf is this toilet paper math
forget napkin math

[hexed adder]

everyone will always have first clear prime surely

[waxen dove]

😫 that doesnt count in the event bro

[unkempt pollen]

?? you asked if you could get 90 pulls from now until event, why does the source of those pulls matter

[fathom nest]

I mean, it's usual income. You have to include the daily stuff

[undone portal]

why wouldnt you farm annihilation

[waxen dove]

💀
we are so getting wang p6 bro

[waxen dove]

im only talking about free stuff from the event specifically

[undone portal]

toilet paper math indeed. everything counts

[waxen dove]

i mean...
we were talking about only event pulls. specifically. i know certs and anni and dailies count in general. but im a freebie lover.

[unkempt pollen]

brother your dailies are freebies

[waxen dove]

event freebie bro ❌😭😭

[fathom nest]

No use arguing over this

[waxen dove]

well this isnt going anywhere
how much can i expect till sash bro
i have 190 gold certs 110 pulls 0 tickets

im also farming orundums

[signal dragon]

that's easily over 200 pulls

[undone portal]

https://imivi.github.io/arknights-pulls-calculator/ try this

[signal dragon]

there's the pull income spreadsheet in pins too

[waxen dove]

holy shit this is the best website vevertysm

[covert ravine]

Well I mean it would probably be best to e2 silverash first, right?

[fathom nest]

If you have the resources he would be much better to raise

[zenith latch]

might be a stupid question, but what does the general guide's google sheet's name mean? (Roadless Camelot)

[fathom nest]

It's a Fate reference afaik

[signal dragon]

fae either liked the name or it's a reference to something

[brazen gulch]

over those two, undoubtedly

[jaunty fossil]

hello ! as a new player, which banner I need to focus for some characters ?

[waxen dove]

next is silverash alter its best to get him

[signal dragon]

are you rerolling?

[jaunty fossil]

no

[fathom nest]

Just save

[signal dragon]

then just singles on newbie banner for first 6* then save

[unkempt pollen]

if you just want more characters to play with, you could look into clearing some side stories for their welfares

[signal dragon]

also pins for voucher selections

[unkempt pollen]

most of them won’t be worth investing heavily into but at least you’ll have more team diversity without needing to spend pulls

[left tulip]

when rerolling, do i need a new email adress every single time? im reading the guide but the 15 days period is blocking me

[waxen dove]

172+24+38=234
this much should be enough for me to get both saalt and 300 for wang or no? assuming my luck is OK
i dont want any saalt pots

[fathom nest]

Delete then remove the other guest account from the management thing

[raven ermine]

I wouldn't count on 300 for wang, but if you're farming oru it can somewhat be feasible

[left tulip]

i see

[stone karma]

Which radian mod is better?

[left tulip]

i can later link an email to the guest acc right?

[fathom nest]

Very recommended that you do so

[ancient current]

more like your account literally explodes to major maintenances if it isn't linked

[lyric lagoon]

alpha is generally better, beta is just a stepping stone

[waxen dove]

i get 10ish pulls each month and assuming ill get both pram and saalt by 100 it does show that i should hit 293 pulls without a second round of buying out the shop...

[sterile ledge]

is gnosis pronounced genesis or no-sis?

[stone karma]

Thx

[boreal steeple]

You can do guest accounts btw

[waxen dove]

nosis

[ancient current]

the latter
more or a #ak-lore question but

[jaunty fossil]

I got SilverAsh (6⭐ ) with the newbie banner and Nearl (5⭐ )

[left tulip]

yea i only now realized, one email wasted but im on it now

[raven ermine]

100 pulls for both is not the average luck
You don't get 10 pulls per month, or you're doing something wrong
You have to clear events shop, you can't sustain 10pulls/month, even with monthly card

[sterile ledge]

how good is zuo le and narantuya in the meta? consider building or nah?

[boreal steeple]

Alpha is a general best in is6. Beta used only once(feng shui solo)
Outside of is6 you rather use beta for extra 22 atk

[stone karma]

Ah got it thx

[unkempt pollen]

zuo le is kinda mid now but he still has a considerable amount of niche permastun utility, naran still holds up as being alright; esp with her new mod

[waxen dove]

is 100 pulls extremely good?

[boreal steeple]

Zuo le is good, naran is also good. Not meta but they pretty outstanding out of most units

[left tulip]

btw lappland is goated ofc amirite

[waxen dove]

and i mean i am getting 10 pulls each month lowk

[undone portal]

not astronomically rare, but its above average luck

[raven ermine]

It's above average luck for sure
Average would be 125/126

[stone karma]

How do I get "out of nothingness" ending in is6?

[fathom nest]

Even her alter isn't outstanding, sorry bud 🥹

[waxen dove]

ok larper
2nd best caster

[signal dragon]

no

[waxen dove]

hmm alright
thanks

[lyric lagoon]

may y-mod save her

[boreal steeple]

You need 5lp relic from wonder into wonderland shop with debuff(elites have extra def and takes away lp per statugeist)

[left tulip]

ill make it my goal to get her anyway

[signal dragon]

the 6*?

[left tulip]

well yea, ofc im getting the 5 with the recruit ticket:)

[stone karma]

Thx

[lyric lagoon]

not even that high of a bar looking at the rest of the caster roster, and she’s getting booted off after pram2 anyways

[waxen dove]

if by some luck i get saalt in like 10 or 20 pulls its best to dump the thoughts of getting pram right

[boreal steeple]

I forgot which one is there in description. Scout or safe house. Iirc scout

[vital kelp]

depends on how many u have

[undone portal]

complete a run post-exp1 first to unlock it

1. buy 'unsealed case' from ji
2. go to scout node and send someone as a case carrier
3. beat a modified version of ed1/2
4. youre now in floor7. survive to the end

[raven ermine]

Spending ALL your sanity on rocks over an entire month would net you an average of 1493 rocks
Or 12.4 pulls
If you're not spending your sanity elsewhere, you're doing something wrong, especially during events
You're not sustaining 10 pulls per month

[left tulip]

how insane of a thing to do is it

[stone karma]

Ah got it thx

[fathom nest]

It's even worse when you take into account all the other better arts damage ops we have available

[boreal steeple]

Pram is insane unit and worth more than sa2

[sterile ledge]

isnt salt really good?

[waxen dove]

i mean uh
we got chapter 16 but it only took me 175 sanity to do it virtually cuz i leveled up and the small bottles of sanity
so it did work this month i dont kniw about the next month tho

[undone portal]

'worth more than sashalt' kinda depends on what content you value being able to beat

[fathom nest]

He is

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, he’s still pretty good

[boreal steeple]

Yes. Its just pram2 being insane unit

[vital kelp]

pram2 overhype?

[lyric lagoon]

just get both, they’re both pull-worthy, amazing banner overall

[waxen dove]

🤮✌️fuck arknights bro take me back to skadi banner

[raven ermine]

Well do you think we won't have any event shop before wang ?

[left tulip]

btw what makes the banner in 1 month good

[raven ermine]

I'm telling you because i'm farming oru myself
You don't sustain 10 pulls/month
Just stock up until 3-5k ish rocks and convert at once

[waxen dove]

god knows atp
still id be at 8 a month atleast so its OK

[boreal steeple]

Its limited so higher rate-up. And 2 rateups are worth it just like during hoshi2 banner

[fathom nest]

SilverAsh close to tying for best vanguard in the game
Pram top 2 casters and afk

[lyric lagoon]

• both featured are amazing operators that can generally benefit any account
• off-rate limited pool has high notable operators if you somehow get them

[boreal steeple]

Pram is top1 caster cuz of utility

[stone karma]

What makes pram 2 worth pulling?

[idle hamlet]

What's the average no of pulls I need to guarantee both rate ups in a limited banner?

[sterile ledge]

with monthly card sanity pots i thk u can though

[vital kelp]

what

[waxen dove]

125 is what ppl tell me

[left tulip]

is it gonna be worth dumping rolls into even with a not high enough number orrr

[raven ermine]

I am buying monthly card every month

[boreal steeple]

Her utility is pretty unique and dmg is on logos lvl(does higher if logos doesnt deal necrosis) and being true aoe

[waxen dove]

pulls from orudnum farm

[sterile ledge]

10 pulls a month still not possible even with monthly card?

idk i havent done the math

[vital kelp]

u cant sustain orundumb farm btw, u dont have enough rock even if u dont farm event shop

[raven ermine]

If you're diligently doing events and clearing shops, unless you hit a one month deadweek, no
Monthly card is an average of 487 rocks/month

[vital kelp]

u dont have enough rock to sustain one factory and one factory wont even sustain one tp trading orundumb

[lyric lagoon]

• high arts dmg with good aoe
• inf duration skill that makes said high arts dmg consistent,
• some other less notable stuff like making blue box into an entity that can block, cold infliction, etc.

[raven ermine]

You can tho
But you have to only spend sanity on rocks basically, with a bit of room to spare

[stone karma]

Yea il keep mantra e0 then for pram in that case

[boreal steeple]

True AoE*

Also she shines in endgame and general content

[fathom nest]

One banner singlehandedly reviving the Kjeragknight niche 🥹

[stone karma]

Do we know what ccb5 is going to be like?

[raven ermine]

They did the same for laterano before too, are we getting factionknight each celeb banner ?

[flint onyx]

Have there been any login events in the past that gave us pulls as a daily reward? If so, are they tied to an event or a specific banner?

[vital kelp]

its like 1 hour 20 min to produce one shard and each shard cost 2 rock, u aint getting a rock every 40 min(u have like 320 stam per day with monthly)

[sterile ledge]

I mean another banner revived the lateranoknight

[fathom nest]

Yep

It was okay even before Exu2, though

Some decent ops in it

[pale tapir]

every limited banner login event?

[flint onyx]

How long it is then? Like how many days do I need to log in to take all the pulls

[fathom nest]

14

[raven ermine]

Well you're not supposed to have your base perma producing oru anyway
If that's what you meant sure, i agree
You're supposed to process large stock each time

[fathom nest]

All banners last two weeks

[sterile ledge]

daily login accumulation for some days every month gets u one pull, I can't remember the date u need to hit

[vital kelp]

wait, what did u mean by sustain then

10 pull a month?

[raven ermine]

That's what we were talking about initially

[vital kelp]

1200 rock per 10 pull, ig u can afford that every month with 1416 stam each month to spare

extra with monthly ig

[raven ermine]

That's not enough for shops usually

[vital kelp]

considering one event and one rerun, definitely not

and u have to use 124x4 on anni

[fathom nest]

Even if you're farming rocks through event?

[raven ermine]

Yeah also annihilations too, true

[fathom nest]

A lot of them have a rock stage with chance at double rocks

[raven ermine]

Well uh, the rates on events are kinda shit, usually around 7.5-8 sanity per rocks, sometimes more
Compared to 4.8 in 1-7, that's kinda rough
Also even with a big stock of mats, i have to restock here and there

[vital kelp]

orundumb farming during event depends on if the event drops rocks/device

t2 rock/t2 device droprate kinda crap on event

[sleek finch]

this one is more of a desparation than a choice

[vital kelp]

i think there was one CW stage that drops both t2 rock and t2 device tho, and even then it had only like 85% efficiency of 1-7

[raven ermine]

You'd rather farm t3s and avoid running out than being suboptimal in t2 event stages
You'll just produce slightly less oru, but i think it pays off in the long run

[vital kelp]

desperation? go for it or something

i was desperate once, that was back at mlynar banner

[left tulip]

theres no way to skip the tutorials right

at least i can skip 0-1

[sleek finch]

you used to be able to, but they fixed it

[vital kelp]

tomorrow this guy's gonna come back for help on something thats in the tutorial watch

[fathom nest]

Can't find one with double t2
CW-2 has t2 rock and t1 device but not t2

[raven ermine]

Outside of forceclosing for 0-1, yeah nope

[fathom nest]

CW-6 has t2 rock and sugar

[vital kelp]

was it not cw-4 or some, lemme check

[fathom nest]

4 is poly and device

[vital kelp]

weird, i prob misremember ig

[raven ermine]

Anyway, producing with devices is bad too
You'd rather convert those to t3s, it's pretty desperate too

[sleek finch]

would people go crazy if theres event stage that drop both T2 rock and device

[lilac kestrel]

I just beat episode 3 last night and then I got flashbanged by a bunch of side content and events that have a lot of nice looking rewards is there any of it I can or should do?

[vital kelp]

just have a ton of t3 device stacked up

[vital kelp]

u should do intergrated strategy for some good materials

[sleek finch]

how much do you want to suffer
and how fast do you want to speedrun the game

[raven ermine]

I do, for when i need devices
I won't use those for oru

[vital kelp]

they are desperate enuff to start considering

i remember being desperate and using my 50 t2 rock and 30 t2 device to make orundumb shard to get like one more pull for mlynar

[lilac kestrel]

i'm fine with some suffering if it means i can upgrade my favourite operators faster

[vital kelp]

go play Intergrated Strategies

[raven ermine]

Suffering is glowsticks cheese
IS is fun

[wraith shoal]

go farm wood and cook in RA

[severe crypt]

According to #arknights, suffering is is6

[runic willow]

So I just farm anything during the ch16 event?

[hexed adder]

Their purpose usually welfare tokens, pulls, furniture, and t2 rocks/device while farming on that node

[raven ermine]

ig if you really want to maximise your pulls that's the way to do it
Sounds more harmful in the long run to me than just getting a few less pulls and less 1-7 runs

[vital kelp]

why furniture

[raven ermine]

for intel certs

[hexed adder]

Orundum on rerun

Technically its more pulls than usual in 1 month

[vital kelp]

if u have plenty rn and are really really desperate u can skip farming these

u cant spend all of them cuz its just like 2k orundumb per restock

[raven ermine]

You'll still end up running out if you don't buy furnitures

[hexed adder]

Its still worth (not like u play only for gacha lmoa)

[vital kelp]

i mean, u cant be desperate for pulls for like a year right

[wraith shoal]

the elite ops furniture set will stay after the limited time stuff goes away or nah?

[hexed adder]

Gone, like other ch release furnitures (same case with mini events)

[wraith shoal]

this is my first chapter release event,so idk about past ones

[hidden nacelle]

I feel like they'll remember about them...eventually

what module for eyja

[fathom nest]

modX is still better I think

[raven ermine]

I think so too

[hidden nacelle]

even with aspd and spcycle ? alright

[vital kelp]

is 1 week 50 yellow cert possible without pulling, i feel like im pretty close

ig make that 25

[raven ermine]

Definitely not with average luck

[fathom nest]

You'd have to get super lucky on recruit

[coarse notch]

unless you're spamming expedited permits thats very unlikely

[hidden nacelle]

just depends on your reserve of recruitment and expedite I thi k

[coarse notch]

typically 1 gold cert a day from recruit is a safe estimate iirc

[vital kelp]

100 and 32 😔

[coarse notch]

time to spam all 32 and pray you skillfully hit a top operator dupe

[atomic minnow]

silverash alter is like month from now right?

[hidden nacelle]

I think 2-3 isn't like an outlandish estimate
assuming you always go twice a day 9h each so 8 chances with 3 refreshes
11 "chances" and it's around 25% innit

[ancient current]

roughly sure

[hidden nacelle]

unless you were smart and have super 252 without upgraded office

[balmy panther]

2 questions
what were the stream rewards for Sash2 event? I want to know how much glue i can buy rn without without compromising the 3 6stars

second, whats currently running in CN? a rerun? dimitri event is already over no?

[coarse notch]

you can check terra wiki for this, cn is running SP alliance rn
but no actual event

[hidden nacelle]

wdym comprising
like buying out the pot tokens?

[balmy panther]

couldnt find any stream rewards in the event page

and i dont want to go through the whole livestream

[brazen gulch]

i have 243 with all buildings maxed and even some refresh accumulation speed bonus because of the ave mujica cc team, for me 1 is the norm, 2 is luck, 3 is like once in two weeks

measured in 4*s, sorry if i missed the line here

[balmy panther]

compromising*
if i use all my glue up now, i wont be able to buy the glue for sash2, pram2 and astgenne2 + the 750 needed for the new goats and the 480 for the mod blocks

[raven ermine]

A bit below two in my experience, nowhere near 3 unless i hit senior/TO

[hidden nacelle]

find a streamers stream who received it in real time

yeah 3 is a little way too generous looking at it mmmm

haven't hit a TO in 2026 yet

[raven ermine]

data from a 5k entry recruit log is around 2, but it hit TO 0.4% of the time and has expedited numbers here and there

[hidden nacelle]

just buy glue till you only have enough left for the 750+480?

[hidden nacelle]

holy goat in the corner

[vital kelp]

how many lmd

[balmy panther]

oh no red vouchers
also socks
you are missing some image in your pixels (thanks a lot)

[hidden nacelle]

is that a bleached kernel ticket

[balmy panther]

i wanted to do at least 1 more promotion for now
but i guess i will hold

[fathom nest]

The stream was very... grainy

[hidden nacelle]

farm some red certs up rq idk best of luck!

[balmy panther]

what do you think ive been doing

[fathom nest]

Prob like 20~30k I didn't bother looking tbh

[vital kelp]

happens when ur not logged into bilibili

[balmy panther]

peeps who arent farming chips or red certs rn are crazy

[fathom nest]

I grabbed it from kyo's stream

[hidden nacelle]

is dimitri as broken as sciel says

[fathom nest]

Seems okay but def not busted

[vital kelp]

who is sciel

[balmy panther]

dimitri is 2026 mid
which means
high tier for 2024 standards

[vital kelp]

we went through a whole year of powercreep in 2025 aaah

[fathom nest]

Lack of actual AoE in the big '26

[hidden nacelle]

so > degen/ela/shubert

[balmy panther]

dont worry
7th anni pulling up with (wis+wang)^2

[raven ermine]

Putting ela/shu there is kinda crazy

[vital kelp]

hes worse than all 3

[hexed adder]

His names kept changing

[hidden nacelle]

playable is6 ed2 ryu

[balmy panther]

we already got our mandatory season of mid ops
now its time for another 6 months of ceiling breakers

[hidden nacelle]

Wang decrepit by 27 trust

[lyric lagoon]

we’re getting mid ops till mh2

[hexed adder]

Demetri, demitri, now Dimitri

[vital kelp]

mh2 collab gonna be mid haimao told me in my dreams yesterday

[balmy panther]

you will still pull 120 times anyway

[vital kelp]

😔

[balmy panther]

I dont want to see yato2 pull recs here tho

[hidden nacelle]

hai mao said durin will get alter will b broken

[vital kelp]

wtf durin alter before f12 alter

[lyric lagoon]

f12 boutta be the best 5*

[brazen gulch]

durin the destroyer of worlds at last?

[hidden nacelle]

12f

[severe crypt]

Wow Ferrari released a new car

[hidden nacelle]

rangers the goat

do we have any new MH2 news since the announcement stream actually?

[vital kelp]

with 5* voucher if i pick a max pot 5 star does that give me 8 + 5 yellow cert?

[left tulip]

i got mantraaaaaaaaa

[vital kelp]

we got a PV

[left tulip]

im done rerolliiiiiiiiing, there isnt any reason to dump more rolls is there

[fathom nest]

It counts as pulled so should

[pale tapir]

no you won the banner start saving so u can win the next ones

[vital kelp]

and 6 star selector gives me 10?

[fathom nest]

Yep

[left tulip]

am i missing out on some crazy operator if i pick lappland in the 5 stars

[vital kelp]

i might just scratch by 258 by the end of the month then maybe hopefully pls 😭

[fathom nest]

Not really

[raven ermine]

Pull singles on your newbie banner until the 6*

[fathom nest]

All options in the selectors outside of Ptilo will be easily replaced

[raven ermine]

Why do you need to ?
Just save for next month cert shop

[vital kelp]

ill hit the next month cert shop definitely since ill be pulling a bunch

just wanna hit the cert shop this month too

[fathom nest]

Oh yeah grub
You said they finally gave pull comps right? How much was it?

[vital kelp]

like 400 orun

[fathom nest]

WTF

[raven ermine]

[fathom nest]

[vital kelp]

and like 5 + 5 t3 mat

[fathom nest]

That's just disrespectful

[raven ermine]

TW is another kind of hell

[vital kelp]

😭 it aint much but its something

i dont have it in my mail anymore but yeah its nothing more than that

god i think i asked this before but

[ancient current]

TW has it rougher than i thought

[vital kelp]

buying his dupe will give me 5 yellow cert yes?

[light latch]

How does looping in is6 work

[hidden nacelle]

comp for what?

[ancient current]

for their beyond insane banner schedule

[hidden nacelle]

looping?

[light latch]

The infinite resource generation loop

[ancient current]

i can't remember what banner we had before our current one

[vital kelp]

mujika?

[ancient current]

oh yea

[fathom nest]

Orienteering

[hexed adder]

Vina

[ancient current]

didn't TW get sakiko recently

[hexed adder]

Soon, april

[vital kelp]

we getting her early april

thats why i wanna get this month's batch of cert pulls

[ancient current]

[vital kelp]

im at 229

5 more from event rerun dupe

ig that makes me like 20 short, if i just get like... 5? over the last days and ill just spend like 1800 red cert buying dupes

wtf 1800 red cert is a whole lot

[balmy panther]

thats a billion sanity

[hexed adder]

Im sure its pinned on is station, but here i found from convo here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jJJn0HK4DcLEjzxhVFjjrXgkwdmsMzz154xTyQfv16g/

[fathom nest]

2,580, close enough

[vital kelp]

Fa

i have like 700 red cert atm, maybe i should try some other way... but its like so close

[raven ermine]

That's 10.75 days of sanity

[fathom nest]

Do you buy monthly, grub?

[vital kelp]

yeah

[fathom nest]

Not as bad

[vital kelp]

stripped of f2p status like 2 month ago

[fathom nest]

But having days without AP-5 available

oof

[vital kelp]

the thing is that im closer than i thought

if im far ill just give up, but like its just like 20 certs :copium:

oh well, no choice but to see how it goes

wait i get 5 more for monthly login on the 25th

that makes me even closer

[rancid crow]

is thorns alter s2 able to heal hoshiguma alter in her red hp form?

[vital kelp]

should

[sly compass]

How does SP gain (not passive SP gain) for units that are locked into their skill via ammo ala exuAlt or Wisadel work? Do they not get the SP? Or do they start the next bar with bonus SP?

[chilly apex]

they waste it pretty sure

[vital kelp]

they dont get any SP while on skill

[young glacier]

Most units don't get SP while their skill is active. Not sure if that works for unit who store charges but their skills are instant/next attack effects instead something with duration

[fathom nest]

Pretty sure the only op that bypasses sp lock still is og Siege

Even with charge skills on other ops, if their skill bar is orange "using the skill" they can't gain sp

[hexed adder]

Siege only the exception yea (thos its only works for her talent)

[light latch]

Wasnt there a new sp lockout bypass op in CN

[proven kelp]

Apparently Record Keeper also has SP lock bypass

[fathom nest]

Is it the talent? Wonder how it's coded if so, because it's similar to Warf. She doesn't bypass it either

[hexed adder]

Warf doesn't have duration, so not count

[proven kelp]

It's s1

Crazy how they given the bypass to a 5*

[vital kelp]

wb pepe

well ig thats more like gain sp after it ends ig

[fathom nest]

Similar to Ray

[hexed adder]

Oh yea then its not count, no duration

[buoyant sigil]

Should I get myself a grinding plan to manage sanity better

[pale tapir]

so the only benefit of this is that she can charge her skill while popping it?

[raven ermine]

If you mean a planner, of course

[fathom nest]

Even no duration skills still have a use bar

[hexed adder]

Yea, sp lock still there for a brief

[fathom nest]

Basically

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah, planning which stages I’ll do, basically how and when I’ll spend sanity to be fine in resources
… probably with a planner tool, I guess, if there is any. I’ll check pins here later

[raven ermine]

https://www.krooster.com/data/planner That's the first step for what you're wanting to do, yes

[buoyant sigil]

Neat!

[fathom nest]

something something obtain vs restore for Siege

AK coding being weird as usual

[hexed adder]

So far only her ye, smh hg

[ancient current]

as much consistency as the skill icon designs

[dire jacinth]

Does IS cost sanity to play

[ancient current]

so you can't farm trust there either

[dire jacinth]

Great!

[ancient current]

[buoyant sigil]

Oooh! That’s nice to know— checked out some of the features, and that’s gonna be amazing. Thank you.

I’m the kind of person who would pull on the orienteering solely because “I think I maybe can get enough resources until the limited”, most sadly

I do have a good amount rn I guess, but dodged a bullet so yeah
I’ll definitely be using this to not repeat the same mistake again

[left tulip]

whats this?👀

[proven kelp]

A Link

[fathom nest]

Make an account, it's very useful

[raven ermine]

The website has many useful features
The one i sent specifically is a planner, you input what you want/plan to build and get a summary of mats you'll need

[mint sage]

what module and skill for normal hoshi?

[vital kelp]

is there any reason to use her

[severe crypt]

S2 and the def+ mod

[vital kelp]

well ig the newly released bear

but s2 ig

[chilly apex]

what do you guys farm to brain off spend sanity?

[severe crypt]

Dead days/weeks? red certs and chips

[light latch]

s2 no mastery, mod x

[vital kelp]

1-7

[chilly apex]

this week now that i already finished the event stages or those too

[severe crypt]

Yeah just the aforementioned red certs, chips and 1-7, and any incomplete story

[light latch]

Red cert grind is forever

[chilly apex]

do you guys buy the ops from red cert shop?

[silver smelt]

is this the best now to use with Mlynar cc?

[vital kelp]

i do, but its not recommended

[raven ermine]

nope it's trash

[chilly apex]

i never grinded them much and never felt like i needed more

[vital kelp]

u always need more

just dont buy ops with them

[silver smelt]

oh i misread nvm yeah it's trash

[severe crypt]

I mean I just keep stockpiling, cuz who knows when they add more pot tokens

[boreal steeple]

Kinda trash since there is not much elite ops enough to fulfill the max eff

[raven ermine]

Even then, elite ops are.. ew

[silver smelt]

its early in the morning and i thought its a cc skill

[boreal steeple]

1-7 or grinding OP since i have side stories left to beat. Red cert stage can be

[left tulip]

what makes mantra good btw?

[silver smelt]

her s3 with tragodia s3

[boreal steeple]

She's just elemental dmg nuke

[silver smelt]

not nuke

[vital kelp]

nuke where

[silver smelt]

she can sustain extremely high damage so long as she has multiple targets to stay alive to bounce off

[boreal steeple]

Well only by pairing with trag its not like that

[vital kelp]

two op

[coarse notch]

technically you need mantra + trag + three skill activations
so like sash2 + frd or something

[proven kelp]

Reedic s3 but Old

[silver smelt]

just mantra + trag is enough to do a lot of dmg

[vital kelp]

if the op need another op to be good then they just too niche

also trag s3 slop

[silver smelt]

trag s3 is like exclusively used in hard content

[covert ravine]

Can I just convert all of my originite to orundum or is that a terrible idea

[vital kelp]

and can u see mantra use in harder content

[silver smelt]

yes

[vital kelp]

is it CC or IS or wher

[pale tapir]

you can but only do so when you actually need the orundum
originite is far more useful
also buy the level up packs that cost if you still have them before converting normally
just gives u free resources on top of the normal amount you'd get from conversion

[silver smelt]

CC not even out since she's released
She was use in hcm (with trag s2 funni enuf)

[vital kelp]

whats hcm again

other abbriev kept getting to my brain

[coarse notch]

holographic combat matrix

[vital kelp]

oh the story cc

[tiny chasm]

Pretty sure her own skill activation procs it so just 2 other skills

[vital kelp]

she deals like 2.5k elem damage per bounce with -50% atk, so its like 10k elem dmg to each target if theres 2 target?

ig theres paralysis pop damage ig

[silver smelt]

theres also talent rng

its pretty useless to try calc her since its very conditional but atleast from my testing ingame it's quite strong

[vital kelp]

[tiny chasm]

Big damage good

[vital kelp]

is the 180k ST total damage from 9 enemy bouncing into one enemy

[silver smelt]

9 enemy bouncing over entire duration of skill would be way more dmg lol