help

[signal dragon]

no

[fathom nest]

They don't

[wild cedar]

That’s… not really the case
I mean the combo thing

[elfin loom]

man 🥀

oh well

[signal dragon]

gold cert is based on standard rotating banners

[elfin loom]

oh i see

[fathom nest]

The Logos Virt combo doesn't really work that great. If you see them used together it's probably for afk purposes

[elfin loom]

ah

[abstract mauve]

yeah virtuosa also just isnt that good 🫡
either way 300 pulls is a lot

[elfin loom]

is the next op to get the one that can make ranged tiles? or is there another good one before that

[abstract mauve]

nasti is not good

[elfin loom]

oh

[frail thunder]

Mantra should be the next op

[abstract mauve]

next op but not next one to get

[elfin loom]

wut does mantra do?

also why isnt nasti good? portable ranged sounds really good
is it just too niche or

[frail thunder]

Oh mb yeah next op to get would be sash and para alters

[fathom nest]

Caster with nervous impairment element

[abstract mauve]

there's sash2 pram2 banner soon and 3 months after that you get wang banner. both banners are really good
wang banner arguably one of the best ever

[frail thunder]

Too niche

[wooden notch]

She's more of a flex unit

[elfin loom]

is there a video/infographic going over what those 3 do?

and is want banner that good due to how good of a unit wang is or the other stuff on it

[fathom nest]

Youtube has tons

[frail thunder]

I mean any video on yt really

[wild cedar]

Nasti takes too long to make one tile because of her dp being 19
And the summon also takes hella time

[elfin loom]

ah ok

whats sash2 pram2 full name?

[fathom nest]

Once you have Wang and Ch'3n you'll likely forget about anyone else tbh

[abstract mauve]

naaa pram2 still very good and sash2 is good vanguard

[fathom nest]

SilverAsh the Reignfrost
Pramanix the Prerita

[elfin loom]

chen as in chen alter? the one with the big aoe blast? or is there a new chen

[fathom nest]

2nd alter

[abstract mauve]

newer chen

[fathom nest]

She's a swordsman again

[signal dragon]

arts guard

[elfin loom]

damn we getting a new one

[fathom nest]

Yep, first time for 2nd alter

[elfin loom]

is that astgenne? i found a video with sash pram and her

[abstract mauve]

ye
astgenne2

[fathom nest]

She's the welfare, yah

[abstract mauve]

she's good for a welfare. wouldnt build her otherwise

[elfin loom]

oki

oh wow u can straight up deny blue box

[abstract mauve]

you'd be suprised but that's the least impactful part of her s2

[elfin loom]

[raven ermine]

The snow tiles are very good

[abstract mauve]

2.2k afk arts dps, massive aoe range, really good mspd reduction and cold/freeze applicaiton that applies outside her range

[frail thunder]

How many afk casters powercreeps do we need 💔

[elfin loom]

dam

is s2 her main?

[abstract mauve]

all 3 skills are used. s1 is very niche. s2 is her main. s3 is a really good skill but also it's a generic nuker big range skill

[elfin loom]

that seems insane with logos
just a field of death

[raven ermine]

S3 is crazy good too

[fathom nest]

We've really only had 2
Dusk/Ejya > Logos > Pram2

[undone portal]

wheres marcille :mad:

[raven ermine]

Marcille found dead in a ditch

[frail thunder]

What about gg

[fathom nest]

Shit

[elfin loom]

Is this in like order of power?

[fathom nest]

In order of creep

[abstract mauve]

pram2 easily best afk unit in general

[elfin loom]

Damn dusk/ejya better than logos?

Oh the other way

[raven ermine]

the other way around

[frail thunder]

mean arrows
Not bigger than

[fathom nest]

I'd put Marcille just SLIGHTLY above Dusk and Eyja. The main thing with her is the AoE

[raven ermine]

And the stun

[abstract mauve]

mfw e1 lvl 30 pram2 can deal with the golems in episode 14 solo

[signal dragon]

forgot she even existed ngl

[frail thunder]

She also slows

[elfin loom]

I'm suprised someone beats logos s1
What does pram do

[undone portal]

icl marcille s2 feels better than logos s1 usually

[raven ermine]

I feel so too

[frail thunder]

She does this

[shadow bay]

nope marci is annoying coz she cant cast s2 fully when i deploy her grrrr

[elfin loom]

Damn fr? Maybe I should build marcille

[undone portal]

sounds like a non mod3 haver issue

[abstract mauve]

i genuinely think logos s1 is a shit skill even for afk but i get flammed for voicing my opinion. it's an upgraded version of absinthe s1 and people just cant handle the truth

[fathom nest]

Mod lets her come out much quicker but doesn't really do anything else for her

[elfin loom]

If ascalon ever comes to gold cert would she be worth

[raven ermine]

Tbf cost has been a big issue for splash casters
Outside of the other flaws, but at least one is sorta settled

[fathom nest]

Depends on account state, but probably

[frail thunder]

She would be one of the better ones

[fathom nest]

She's still really good

[elfin loom]

Oki

Rn my main goto is Ethan for that typa unit and I was thinking I should upgrade 🥀

[raven ermine]

For anything that is not IS, ascalon is straight up better 99% of the time

[fathom nest]

Ethan is still used over her in some scenarios

[elfin loom]

Wait Ethan is good for is?

[fathom nest]

Very

Bind is valuable

[elfin loom]

Oh dam

[raven ermine]

and he scales well with a lot of relics

[fathom nest]

Uhhhhhhhhh
Debuff for chance at Shamare

[raven ermine]

debuff

For both shamare and waaifu

[sweet blade]

i got wa aifu guy

[raven ermine]

She's a good base slave but wants e2

[pale tapir]

-# furry
W(aaifu)

[sweet blade]

aaand i got meteorite

[elfin loom]

Wang looks kinda really strong

[fathom nest]

He is kinda really strong

Stupidly high damage but doesn't have anything else

[abstract mauve]

he's one of the 4 strongest in the game actually :ya:

[elfin loom]

How does he compare damage wise to other top dps like wis?

[abstract mauve]

really high damage and really high damage quality

[fathom nest]

On par or better purely with damage

[elfin loom]

Oh damn

[abstract mauve]

pretty sure better cuz 39 res ignore lmao

[inland steeple]

did you also select senior operator?

[fathom nest]

Twue

Meteorite is a 5 star

[elfin loom]

[fathom nest]

You're thinking of Meteor

[inland steeple]

oh

[tiny abyss]

Both ahve debuff tags

[earnest river]

does this refresh when new skins come out

[ancient current]

yes

[abstract mauve]

it's based on the current skins in shop ye

[earnest river]

cool ty

[fathom nest]

Doesn't include collab skins

[inland steeple]

or l2d skins(the moving ones)

[elfin loom]

Wtf he one shot patriot

[fathom nest]

Yah 18 OP or lower

[abstract mauve]

~~missed sakiko skin because of it 🥹 ~~

[polar viper]

does silverash 2 do anything irreplaceable or could I reasonably skip the banner with vanguard spam and my current overabundance of arts damage

[tiny abyss]

-# Swap dp cost is irreplacable

[fathom nest]

Unless you're doing high end IS he's skippable

[elfin loom]

Does Wang have an afk ish skill or is it just put the manual nukes in the bag typa deal

[abstract mauve]

manual nukes

[raven ermine]

You'd be missing out on pramanix too tho

[earnest river]

hes a trapper so

[elfin loom]

Oki

[tiny abyss]

He's trapmaster, his damage comes from traps which well u manually place

[fathom nest]

There will be a day where we'll have auto traps

[raven ermine]

Ew why

[elfin loom]

-# didn't W have smth with auto mines or am I trippin

[tiny abyss]

W s2

[inland steeple]

powercreep

[abstract mauve]

breaking branch trait is cool thing that they like to do now

[earnest river]

definitely

[raven ermine]

But trapmasters are so fun to play with 😡

[ancient current]

technically dorothy spawning mines on deploy with talent is auto

[tiny abyss]

We alr have it it's W s2

[elfin loom]

Don't underestimate my clumsy fingers into placing the wrong thing in the right place or the right thing on the wrong place

Or just the wrong thing in the wrong place 🥀

[raven ermine]

Pause deploy

[fathom nest]

Also hot garbage, so

[elfin loom]

How does one pause deploy that's a thing?

[tiny abyss]

Don't he deploy another trap that seeks nearest enemies

[fathom nest]

It's harder to do if you're playing mobile, but with emulators you can just drag an op and hit esc most of the time

[elfin loom]

O

[fathom nest]

For mobile you need to drag and hit the "back" button on your phone at once

[earnest river]

on the pc client u can literally just deploy while paused

[raven ermine]

Yeah either emulators keybinds, or using multiples fingers on mobile

[inland steeple]

the what

[undone portal]

speaking of w s2, if i were to have/build her in the big 26 would she be an s3 angle? s2 seems really inconsistent for low payoff, you can at least choose to time s3 for a good cluster of enemies

[fathom nest]

The triangle

At the bottom/side of your screen

[elfin loom]

Man I removed the back button 😔

Oh well I'll play normally

[inland steeple]

i dont think my phone has that

[sly compass]

Is it normal for the 6th stage of Stationary Security Service to be way harder than the 5th stage? I'm getting completely flattened when Stages 1-5 were cakewalks

[raven ermine]

You likely have a virtual one

[undone portal]

does ios even have one of those

[fathom nest]

Higher stat inflation, so possibly

Apple L yet again

[undone portal]

common apple L

[wanton meadow]

https://www.krooster.com/u/gvm Uhh so I'm planning out my yellow cert usage and I'm not sure if i should care about having ray. I know i would want to cert logos and ulpianus in the semi recent future when they arrive but idk about ray

[sly compass]

gotcha. My only built 6* is Sakiko, which is amazing, but I can't get anywhere near x5 buffs on her before I'm getting bowled over on 6, but on 1-5 I easily could

[inland steeple]

you can also pause, select the op by tapping on their portrait in the deployment bar, unpause (at 1x speed) and put the op where they need to go

its not an actual pause deploy but its the closest you can manage

[tiny abyss]

Dont selecting an op already put you in a super slow mode

[inland steeple]

but it gets sped up at 2x speed

[fathom nest]

Not while selected

[tiny abyss]

Does it never paid attention

[raven ermine]

How one p relays 🥹

[wanton meadow]

When you're selecting an op, doesn't the game run at 0.25x?

[undone portal]

yes but you can achieve something approximate to pause deploy if youre quick with your fingers
bring in your rhythm/fighting game experience and do frame perfect screen inputs

[inland steeple]

wait what

[tiny abyss]

-# Smh now Ik why I quit Ak at y0 (I was mobile)

[wanton meadow]

Or was it 0.5x

[elfin loom]

Oki

[fathom nest]

Wouldn't say you necessarily need Ray on this account. She would be nice but if Mlynar shows up again before her definitely grab him

Who is the lastest gold op, anyway? Was it Viviana?

[inland steeple]

damn i think i got placebo’d

[tiny abyss]

Don't think Vivi has come out

[wanton meadow]

Latest new one was typhon no?

[fathom nest]

Oh I got them switched, yeah it was Typhon

Same banner

[coarse notch]

not like you need pause deploy 99% of the time, and when you do need it you indeed need emulator frame advancing which is impossible on mobile anyways

we'll get official pause deploy in like 6 months hopefully

[wanton meadow]

It's not impossible if you use a mobile keyboard but honestly kinda excessive

[coarse notch]

i wouldnt trust a mobile keyboard to frame advance where it matters

[wanton meadow]

Tons of decent otg usb c keyboard work with android

[inland steeple]

its more like 4 or so

[inland steeple]

maybe less cause yostar’s been pushing out qol updates earlier than when they released in cn recently

[coarse notch]

the issue moreso is with mobile framedropping more often

[wanton meadow]

Just swipe for a better phone 5head

[undone portal]

anyone have the new mod numbers? i wanna look at aak/jessicalt

[fathom nest]

Unlike with content updates we're not necessarily guaranteed to get the pc client at all, unfortunately

[wanton meadow]

But yea frame drops are definitely an issue

[coarse notch]

tho i guess you can just make up for the dropped frame in your head or something

[fathom nest]

Could be less or more time than "expected"

[glass panther]

Hmmm

[wanton meadow]

Tbf it's not like you need to be frame perfect unless you wanna mess with aggro with 1f multideploys

[fathom nest]

But muh visually pleasing auto deploys 😭

[coarse notch]

mon3tr boat jump needs frame perfect when starting the timer and within 3 frames for the jump itself
rosmontis pillar needs to be on the 3rd frame to draw aggro

[raven ermine]

1p relay 1-7 or i retire

[inland steeple]

this guy gets it!

[tiny abyss]

Er Tuya solo 1-7

[raven ermine]

No shit

[inland steeple]

how can i be satisfied with my auto deploy if everyone disappears except for pram immediately after the last enemy dies

[wanton meadow]

I summon pram2 and pass

[coarse notch]

idk where to find it but aak's heal on deploy is 150% of his atk

[raven ermine]

You guys hate fun 😔

[fathom nest]

Does prts not have them?

[coarse notch]

didnt check but i was assuming ori wanted english
could just google translate it tho ya

yea its on prts

[mild yacht]

Even those we aren’t always guaranteed.
Never forget Spacemiya.

[wanton meadow]

I don't blame em for not wanting to have brain aneurysm from reading machine translation

[fathom nest]

The long ahh wait for KFC skins

[raven ermine]

No ifrit chicken 😔

[keen hedge]

Are hunters any good? 😬

[fathom nest]

Ray is

[formal shadow]

snowhunter isnt bad either iirc

[mild yacht]

-# Watch them mean abysal hunters.

[inland steeple]

they’re also pretty good

[ancient current]

coldshot is ok but she needs too much investment
snow hunter is also decent from what i heard from shileds

[keen hedge]

😬

[ancient current]

you shouldn't reason by archetype but by kit
though sometimes archetypes say a lot about the operators in them

[tiny abyss]

-# Mystic

[inland steeple]

-# splash casters

[vital kelp]

-# poineer

[wanton meadow]

Indigo kinda nice atleast

[reef sparrow]

[fathom nest]

Vulpis is still good, just outshined

[tiny abyss]

Let's see hm
-# Bard

[spare jetty]

-# chargers

[keen hedge]

Why is Kaltsit just medic 😬

[coarse notch]

mercenary guards

[abstract mauve]

she's medic medic ye

[tiny abyss]

No Kaltsit is Medic Medic

[spare jetty]

lore reasons

[raven ermine]

checkmate

[inland steeple]

she’s a doctor

[inland steeple]

that just so happens to have a murderous spinal cord

[keen hedge]

And why her range big? 😬

[coarse notch]

thats actually a common misconception

[abstract mauve]

because she's special and has a bigger range

[inland steeple]

so you can place mon3tr in more spots

[tiny abyss]

Actually who's the last medic medic before record keeper

[spare jetty]

u can place m3 anywhere outside of kal range

[inland steeple]

yes but then mon3 wont have any defense

[coarse notch]

kaltsit
ignoring touch/reserve op

[spare jetty]

who cares

[tiny abyss]

So it's just been 4 years

[inland steeple]

me

[wanton meadow]

Where is touch and why can't pull for her

[mild yacht]

IS restriction

[raven ermine]

Mantra's base skill would be too great

[tiny abyss]

+3 SP on heal

[spare jetty]

touch goated medic

might be secretly an 6*

[tiny abyss]

Isn't she in Stronghold Protocol

[undone portal]

15sec and 150% atk its awful

[fathom nest]

wiki doesn't have it translated, it excludes activity rooms and what else?

Google is giving me "off-agents" but no fucking clue what that means

[wanton meadow]

Wdym secretly, she's an RI elite op no? Like raidian, ascalon, and logos

[mild yacht]

Assistants

[tiny abyss]

How much does April reduce rdp time again

[raven ermine]

Those are elite ops
And pretty sure any facility would be fine outside of rec rooms

[tiny abyss]

Ascalon is EO?

[undone portal]

6star touch already exists through stronghold protocol iirc

[spare jetty]

babel

[mild yacht]

Elite SWEEPer

[spare jetty]

i meant in IS

[wanton meadow]

Yea she's the leader for sweep and is considered RI elite op iirc

[undone portal]

28s

[fathom nest]

-28 from mod and another -10 from pots

[coarse notch]

ascalon shouldnt be an elite op

[undone portal]

actually yea, asca wont count as eo for base. primary faction sweep

[reef sparrow]

she's the leader of sweep

[coarse notch]

yea base spreadsheet doesnt include her either
sweep is a completely different department

[raven ermine]

afaik EO includes blaze/blaze2, rosmo, raidian, logos, mantra

Not sure if i forgot one

[jovial urchin]

Pretty sure Ascalon has higher authority than EO?

[wild cedar]

Yes

[reef sparrow]

sweep is an independent group from RI but that goes to #ak-lore

[tiny abyss]

The other two sweeps are launch ops right

[light latch]

the IS temp recruit ops

[coarse notch]

scavenger and projektred

[reef sparrow]

yes, but both aren't really fit to be sweep at least in game

[raven ermine]

Yeah but you can't run those in base 😔

[light latch]

oh i didn't read the whole conversation mb

[coarse notch]

hey projektred does decent damage to amiya in is5!
with 300 atkspd

[tiny abyss]

Are there similar talents to Red and Aciddrop

[coarse notch]

not that i know of

[raven ermine]

Entel s3

But yeah not a talent

[fathom nest]

Doesn't Ch'3n do %hp damage or was I reading something wrong?

[coarse notch]

yea but it doesnt have a post mitigation damage minimum

[tiny abyss]

s3 deals 6% current hp as arts damage, not like those two

[fathom nest]

Mmmm

[light latch]

chen3's s3 has a minimum listed, but i'm assuming that dmg is pre-DR

[feral quest]

Anyone have issue opening the game mines stuck on the logos for some reason

[fathom nest]

Naw. Could try using a vpn or something. Maybe data if you're on mobile

[spare jetty]

unless ur in uk then suffer

[feral quest]

Was there update yesterday I played before sleep and this morning it won't open

[spare jetty]

there was, days ago

[glass nexus]

when will pc launcher be available for en server

[royal swan]

We dunno, it came with wang banner in cn but there's no guarantee we get it at the same time

[spare jetty]

all lies onto yostar decisions

[hidden wolf]

Is amiya e2 any good

[spare jetty]

no in general content
yes in IS

[abstract mauve]

i still dont see the vision with amiya in IS but ig enough IS folk like her there

[spare jetty]

especially her med form
its so goated

[coarse notch]

shes extremely strong in is5, i draft her first in every run on the medic/caster/guard tickets

[hidden wolf]

Should I e2 logos or e2 amiya first to continue story

[abstract mauve]

i mean she's extra good for a 5* since the maps fit her style of usage and you can draft her from whichever ticket but like that still sounds meh to me

[spare jetty]

she can forcefully eats a fucking d18 spike at e1

[split sphinx]

finish up your 6stars first

[light latch]

idk about other ppl but sometimes i just get really fucked with voucher rng and being able to pick up amiya via an entirely different class to get a medic is kind of nice

[coarse notch]

eh shes a main dps for ed2/3/4/5 id say thats good enough

[abstract mauve]

imma be completely honest with you. this is such a non-factor in my eyes at least

[spare jetty]

theres lots of other stuffs that i by chance to forget the rest of it

[hidden wolf]

9-2. Should I care or its easy

[coarse notch]

being able to take catastrophes spines in one skill is pretty huge
she also duos the mobs in shop rob with gummy
can summon rosmontis pillars
main dps for every ending
kills boats if you're lowrolling
etc

[abstract mauve]

im aware there's more to the amiya draft than that. i just think it's all wtvr tbh

[abstract mauve]

if im low rolling that i cant kill boats, my ass doesnt have a chance in hell against either quillon or amiya

[coarse notch]

play it in the highest difficulty possible

[inland steeple]

dont ever do story environment

[shadow bay]

its just saying it have difficulty scaling, its also normal and cm but reworded to standard and adverse environment

[abstract mauve]

also iirc krooster kills boats with kings + marksman hand but i dont remember if that's d15 or d18

[inland steeple]

ever.

[split sphinx]

if you clear it at high diff, you don't have to play it twice

[coarse notch]

well yea you're playing welfareknights
lowrolling amiya boatkilling is specifically for when you dont get a f4 shop and are forced to go faceoff with just hand + kings + deathmatch

[inland steeple]

this is only in ch10 onwards, ch9 still has normal challenge mode

[shadow bay]

oh yeh ch9 still seperate it to cm mode

[coarse notch]

d18 indigo krooster kills if both are e2 and you have three kings or two kings + deathmatch

[abstract mauve]

quilon has similar defense to the boats. it's basically a check for how well i would do against quilon

[shadow bay]

testing the waters moment ahhh

[coarse notch]

yea but quilon is f6, amiya is typically used if you're forced to kill boats in f4

[abstract mauve]

sure i can kinda see the angle

[tender sleet]

do I need to kill the red casters for these to be max efficiency?

[abstract mauve]

it's just that i dont think it's worth all that glaze which is the point

krooster + king + shamare should be easily able to do boat

[lapis tide]

not sure how much else could you ask for from a 5 stars freebie, otherwise you can say anything is whatever

[coarse notch]

i dont think krooster kills in time, you need indigo to bind

[light latch]

kill the things it says in the How to Obtain section at the bottom, in this case maybe consider the Originium veins?

[abstract mauve]

i would imagine with shamare it should be fine

[coarse notch]

and you arent able to grab shamare half the time anyways

[abstract mauve]

she usually needs 1 more damage relic on top of kings from my experience. so that would be marksman hand for me
or like a damage thought

[tender sleet]

it says leader enemies, do red casters count?

[glossy schooner]

Idk if I’m just getting Shit bind rng but I’m struggling with Ethan’s paradox sim

[tender sleet]

yeah without mod lowkey sucks

[coarse notch]

i just think its a pretty good endorsement of amiya's strength in is5 when gvg, snp, sescort, ingot, and collections all have her as a core draft

[severe crypt]

Even I needed a few runs with mod3 s2m3

[tender sleet]

mod3 s2m3 is just free, u can do without wasting left side mines

[glossy schooner]

Seeing as I don’t have mod, and have a case of the POOR, since I’m leveling Mon3tr, I can’t get mod at all

[coarse notch]

shes not turbo busted omg super strong carry but shes an integral part of stabilizing every run and giving you many options for dealing with problems

[abstract mauve]

the good players are drafting her which means she's a good pick. i just will not really go against the recommendation much but i dont fully understand it. i have the same thing with krooster in is3 d15 and below where she was recommended for so long but ye

[tender sleet]

chat I try to kill everything I am unsure how tf am I supposed to max this out, help a guy in need :sobcri:

[coarse notch]

im not that knowledgeable of krooster in is3 but to my knowledge she was kinda just barely good enough damagewise to justify drafting her for her stun utility
but like yato on d18 she kinda exploded (like you said)

[abstract mauve]

are you using the surveyor?

[tender sleet]

the one that spawns red casters that sleep?

[abstract mauve]

no the one that

[tender sleet]

Amiya IS5 good, no one is must draft anyway

das all

[tender sleet]

we use rhis on a rock? is this the rock which gives ur ops hp?

[abstract mauve]

no this is the rock that is spawned in when the stage starts already

[light latch]

wasn't this covered in the tutorial

[inland steeple]

the rocks that are already in the map from the start

[abstract mauve]

i asked fib about it and he just said she stun the flying guys and her damage was servicable. from my experience, her damage is ass and erato stuns the floating guys and helps in ed1 and ed2. erato actually solos ed1 and ed2 with sp buffs lmao

[tender sleet]

Oh I see, Thankyou chat

[coarse notch]

when we get into the highest end content the core strategies each have their must drafts that basically doom the run if they cant hit certain targets by certain floors
but yea of course in lower difficulty content no one is a must draft, that makes strength assessment kinda finicky though (like the krooster/mlynar/yatoalter situation in d15 vs d18 is3)

[tender sleet]

erato old solve for tlk, I think bait's is central write up does mention that

[coarse notch]

omg erato mentioned

[abstract mauve]

erato goated for is3 frfr

[tender sleet]

yeah the must drafts are there for consistency I believe, without them you can win but you're relying on some rng factor, Amiya is part of that consistency in winning with lamp comps for example

[coarse notch]

shes used for talons as well, shes pretty much everywhere

[tender sleet]

if it's not d18 we don't talk about it

[coarse notch]

d18 245 wisban driving a car while playing on a nokia or you're basically in kindergarten

[turbid ocean]

[tender sleet]

wisban ain't so bad in lamp atleast

[abstract mauve]

omg hii light

[coarse notch]

hi light sorry light wont happen again light

[turbid ocean]

thank you

[tender sleet]

Omg IS discussion off topic? Wow Gomen

[turbid ocean]

you can skip to chapter 9 whenever you want

as long as you have beat chapter 3-8

[spare jetty]

hi

[snow siren]

is carnelian infected?

[turbid ocean]

check wiki

or ask #ak-lore

[snow siren]

do you have a link?

[turbid ocean]

https://arknights.wiki.gg

[glossy schooner]

Forgot that existed, eh, I’m at chapter 7, I’ll just play my way to chapter nine.

[feral quest]

For rebuilding mandate there's like 4 stage next to rm5 and 6 not open are they timegated or have I missed unlock

[coarse notch]

timegated

[languid swallow]

Is it only those 4 stages and the last 15 levels of the rewards for 2nd week

[hidden wolf]

Oops wrong game

[severe crypt]

People have sent worse 🚬

[worldly sky]

ethan mod level?

[turbid ocean]

mod3 + s2m3

[worldly sky]

is s1 better in is6? and then s2 for all the other is

[turbid ocean]

s1 doesn't need mastery and its used sometimes

[worldly sky]

got it

[turbid ocean]

s2 is mainly used in like IS5 thats really about it ngl

otherwise you don't draft unnecessarily

maybe some niche specific uses in other IS like Izumik...

but Ethans used on multiple endings for IS5

[pallid creek]

There are no primes in current event, right?

Ty

[humble nova]

will the game ever create a co-op game mode for player vs player type shi?

[light latch]

...are you expecting us to read the dev's mind?

[mild yacht]

Unofficially, they did, because first coop didn’t have people actually cooperating.

[split sphinx]

hold on let me fire up 🫸 🔮 🫷

[humble nova]

oh.. I was hoping some sort of btd5-6 sort of thing

[sand folio]

Quick q
Are there any primes or Ori on any of the IS?

[snow beacon]

how do i see base skills in operators

[shadow bay]

wiki

u cant rly check it in game unless u go to the base

[split sphinx]

check the base combo sheet

[shadow bay]

u can somehow check feat ops in banner and shop if u can check their previews... but yeh

[young violet]

Which one is the best stage to farm this

[frail fern]

I'm new player , I got Mountain in newbie banner should I kept ?

[snow beacon]

wym keep are u planning to make a new acc? u cant really delete units

[severe crypt]

Are you rerolling?

[shadow bay]

hmmm i would reroll till i get something like logos or ascalon on orienteering banner atm

but mountain is... not the best but still nice... cheap laneholder to plug in early stage of game

[frail fern]

Yea

[modern gust]

what does the 9 mean

[abstract mauve]

initial SP on deployment

[mild yacht]

Initial sp on deployment

[shadow bay]

starting sp

meaning if u deploy him/her, he/she have 9 sp at that instant

[robust thistle]

*they

[tiny abyss]

Isnt support beta only Myrtle

[frank wing]

I think so

does anyone else have the enchant weapon skill that midnight has?

[abstract mauve]

wdym

[turbid ocean]

skill is named "Enchanted weapon α"

[frank wing]

yeah does anyone else have a higher power version of it

[turbid ocean]

@ancient current would know

[abstract mauve]

i dont think so

[turbid ocean]

kind of random trivia question but maybe just searchng wiki directly works

[frank wing]

yeah i should just do that

[turbid ocean]

nope doesn't exist

[abstract mauve]

i know most 4* and 5* skills by heart. i dont remember ever seeing smthn like that

[frail fern]

I get mountain from starter banner

[frank wing]

its so weird to me how blast range up and enchant weapon just don't have higher levels

[drifting sinew]

Anyone here has the list of recommended stages for certain mats?

[frank wing]

/material in #bot-spam

[agile finch]

my first 10 pull, did it get anything good?

[drifting sinew]

Thanks

[drifting sinew]

Thorns is pretty good, ptilopsis is also pretty good here.

[agile finch]

how good are we talking? Like Lappy alt good, or just a solid A?

[robust thistle]

Thats the beginner banner, it doesnt really matter who you get there really
That being said shamare and ptilo are the few good *5s there

If youre aiming for a good *6 you reroll on the orienteering bannet

And for the record, "lappy alt good" is not "good"

[shadow bay]

serviceable

he is a liability until he get his e2, in when he does... he become a good laneholder capable of hitting both ground and air units

[silent pendant]

which ascalon module is better

[shadow bay]

more slow one, base only

[split sphinx]

if you're trying to reroll, do on the orienteering banner for logos

[limpid kernel]

am i doing something wrong or is 12-19 bugged? the first enemy that comes from the top right box never gets blocked by anybody and just goes on to my box, i can't clear it

[robust thistle]

Read the enemy info

[wanton meadow]

Shamare and ptiloptis are great pickups, both useful and shamare transitions into one of the best in slot base skills. Thorns is p ok, very dead weight before e2 tho.

[robust thistle]

And I mean all of them, not just that specific one that gets through

[limpid kernel]

okay, that makes sense thanks

[visual creek]

I've had this in my inventory for so long because I'm indecisive

The only operators I don't own is Thorns and Silver Ash but they are literally two of the best guards which one should I pick?

[split sphinx]

they are not 2 of the best guards 😭
silverash is better pick tho

[light latch]

do you have a reliable camo remover

or just wait until u pull one of the two from recruitment maybe idk

[visual creek]

Elysium?

[robust thistle]

Just pick SA and be done with it

[spare jetty]

camo remover when i just plop sb down to block it

[robust thistle]

It doesnt matter who you pick, theyre both washed
But SA at least has invis reveal

[light latch]

sb?

[pale scaffold]

Somebody

Like literally anyone that can block will reveal camo

[light latch]

wasn't there a stage with invisible drones

[robust thistle]

Said invisible drones kill themselves

[teal latch]

which of these should I spend my last 2 vouchers on? https://imgur.com/a/womHOn6

[spare jetty]

asca

[robust thistle]

Is that RM

[pale scaffold]

Yes

[robust thistle]

Ok

[pale scaffold]

They doesnt do much once you borrow support wisadel and lemuen pick whatever tbh

[spare jetty]

asca is a real pick btw

[pale scaffold]

True, asca prob the best here

[spare jetty]

anything that is aoe is good in rm

well not all

[pale scaffold]

300 aspd lemuen

[abstract mauve]

RM makes lavaalter seem usable

[split sphinx]

lava big dps on slugs

[placid copper]

should i build Degenbrecher or Hoederer

[pale scaffold]

Wisadel and lapp2 s1 also a fun combo

[frigid stream]

degen

[spare jetty]

no i have no faith in lappalt or wis

[placid copper]

thanks

[pale scaffold]

Why not

Wisadel permastun and lappalt bombard wherever wis stuns at

[frigid stream]

they reduce your iq every time you place them

[tepid thistle]

Why is hoederer regarded so poorly by the community?Used him in IS 6(trial) and he is pretty tanky.Managed to tank the Yi explosions

[abstract mauve]

if the best thing you can say about him is that he is tanky, then he isnt good

[spare jetty]

hes a crusher
unless if it is is5 then hes good

[floral loom]

Is the pull recs still up to date?

[frigid stream]

Somebody told me that pots are pretty important late game. should I be pulling on banners for pots or nah

[pale scaffold]

Nah

[severe crypt]

Was this person fib

[frigid stream]

yes

[pale scaffold]

That tracks

[severe crypt]

He like twinks dw about him

[spare jetty]

the statement is partially real

[pale scaffold]

Its kinda important in endgame like high point ccb

[abstract mauve]

it's more like post endgame. no you shouldnt worry about that till you know you need them

[floral loom]

The last pull recs seem to be from january

[abstract mauve]

send a screenshot of what you are looking at

[obtuse obsidian]

Crusher have pure hp so they are better at tanking arts then most ops since most ops dont have much res and way less hp.

That being said pure tanking he get hard out classed in most cases by a normal defender or ulpain gladiia so most wont have use of hoaderer

[frigid stream]

is holographic combat matrix post endgame for the basic medal or

[floral loom]

this one

[tiny abyss]

Edit date

[floral loom]

IDK?

[silver smelt]

u dont need pots for hcm

[robust thistle]

By post endgame hey mean the top 0.5% of content

[severe crypt]

We’ll have you read the reccs themselves, do they seem out of date?

[silver smelt]

u also dont need any pots for d18 is
unless u really want to do low op d18

[tepid thistle]

Oh ok

[robust thistle]

If you need to think to justify -1DP cost investment for endgame, then you dont need it

[tiny abyss]

It's constantly updated

[floral loom]

ah

cool

[proven kelp]

Or you know
They simply edit the message itself rather than
Type a whole new message
Copy the message link
Edit the old link
Paste the new link

[robust thistle]

If you actually know you need it then you would get the pot immediately

[frigid stream]

ok because the convo yesterday really confused me since yall were saying you needed pots for getting score 15 on hcm

[robust thistle]

Are you sure theyre not talking about the 3op clear

[abstract mauve]

uhhh dont take the term "post endgame" too seriously. it's more that pots are for max risk, low op clears of already hard content. so 1st, content that literally no one engages with and on top of that they find the lowest possible amount of ops needed to clear it. like for example max risk holographic is endgame. fib would argue that pots matter for low op on said max risk.

[robust thistle]

Its a clear using only 3 operators out of 12 slots
So yes you need all the vertical investment you can get

[obtuse obsidian]

Pots generally only used in self challenges

[frigid stream]

I asked how to clear hcm for risk 15 and fib was saying I needed pots for that

[abstract mauve]

it's way beyond what the game asks of you in most cases. some very rare cases pots might be needed for this "endgame" of max risk but that's neither here nor there. if you find yourself doing that content, you will definitely know when you need pots

[robust thistle]

Fib has a penchant of inserting whatever tickles his jiggles into his shills

[charred vigil]

I'm confused bout the recruitment in rebuilding mandate how come I dont get the 6 star im hiring in Exceptional appointment even if I own them???

[robust thistle]

He'd put p5 ela if he felt like it

[chrome prawn]

Which module is better for Chen alter?

[abstract mauve]

no he didnt. he showed you several clears and then you responded that you didnt have the characters. dont twist what he said

[abstract mauve]

the new one that reduces her cost. mod lvl 3 is good for her

[proven kelp]

Crazy

[frigid stream]

I said ls-4 r15

[silver smelt]

Nobody said that
we said ur roster isnt cut out for hard content
not that it needs pots

I literally said the ops usually needed for ls4 and none had pots

[frigid stream]

Well I know my roster wasn't cut out for it but it was being described to me that you needed pots if your roster WAS cut out for it.

[split sphinx]

different clears have different reqs

[robust thistle]

Quote or it didnt happen

[abstract mauve]

not looking to deep into what he said exactly. the point is that pots might've been needed for 3 op max risk. it might not be needed for 4 or 5 op max risk

[silver smelt]

its nowhere needed for fkn 15 risk

[abstract mauve]

i dont think anyone ever implied pots were needed for 15 risk tho

[shadow bay]

so i cant clr hcm anyday if i have only p1s of my units??

[light latch]

wasn't the original question about low op max risk

[robust thistle]

its the freaking wang 3op clear

[abstract mauve]

kerf backreading

[robust thistle]

yes of course you'd need pots for that, hes lterally your only dps and he killed the ergates by a hair

[silver smelt]

its fucking low op dawg

[abstract mauve]

i've been trying to explain that

[silver smelt]

i swear hes just baiting

[turbid ocean]

[obtuse obsidian]

I mean what else will fib talk about

[turbid ocean]

thats enough

[robust thistle]

something somethin told you so

[silver smelt]

someone tell them to stop baiting its been like 3 days

[turbid ocean]

if it happens again you can @ me

[abstract mauve]

do you have link to previous times?

[frigid stream]

Im sorry but to me this conversation was confusing me into needing pots for the risk 15 clear. I don't think I ever mentioned doing it with 3 or 4 operators. You can click to see the convo

Another quote

[arctic hawk]

pro tip when you shit talk someone you can turn off the ping

[robust thistle]

[copper oracle]

u arent talking abt r25?

[abstract mauve]

omg hi fib

[robust thistle]

the whole linked message is about r25

[shadow bay]

seems like some shady clr which u limit urself further....

but then again this seems entertaining

[robust thistle]

why is it suddenly r15

[copper oracle]

omg hi shields

[wanton meadow]

Is this another en can't read moment

[turbid ocean]

ok the confusion has been cleared up
we can move on

[silver smelt]

fib was talking about a relicless 2op

[robust thistle]

the conversation above it is about r25, idk what is going on

neither are for r15 so they guy is misinterpreting it anyways

[frigid stream]

Ok thanks i was actually confused so pots aren't needed. was asking because i was going to roll for pots on the orienterring banner otherwise.

[robust thistle]

rule of thumb is, if you need to ask to pull for pots, then you dont need the pots

if you know you need the pots, you'd get them one way or another

[frigid stream]

"beat what" -> "ls-4 15" thats how the entire convo started, moving on now

[silver smelt]

rolling pots on mon3tr logos ascalon when the clear uses wang pots

[turbid ocean]

what part of moving on do we not understand
if you dont have a question close your mouth

[wanton meadow]

Honestly even max risk that's not low op should be ok without pots right?

[odd sky]

is rm battlepass thing on reset or 12hr after

[turbid ocean]

Depends on the exact stage buts its attainable

[silver smelt]

mostly yeah

[lone valley]

The expansion of it? Should be some hours after reset like most events

[formal shadow]

why'd this conversation get brought back up

[wanton meadow]

Ah shoot RM has medals

Should've started earlier

[shadow bay]

is it time gated?

ofc it is... but i mean does medal have... can only be done in 1st week or something???

[frigid stream]

I dont see any time gate

[copper oracle]

depends on the stage 🚬

[obtuse obsidian]

No but you gain resources over time so its not the kind of event you can do last day

[copper oracle]

what if ur already using 13 ops and need pots ‼️

[frigid stream]

Should i get skill mastery on degenbrecher s3 or rays3 first

[copper oracle]

also some pots are incredibly hard to replace like ceobe p5 vs 123944382349234 def enemy

[silver smelt]

i mean those clears usually get optimized out

[copper oracle]

they dont optimize for low pots... cos they arent poor

[obtuse obsidian]

Thankfully i have not faced an enemy with more then 123944382349233 def

[silver smelt]

okay show ur own account then

[obtuse obsidian]

He said they not i

[robust arch]

does bellone look skippable ? trying to save for an incoming monhun collab

[abstract mauve]

yes

[copper oracle]

bruh why the img double send

[silver smelt]

good one

[copper oracle]

this is my account tho

[split sphinx]

do you just perma farm orundumb on that acc

[ebon plaza]

is this thing in any of the IS shops? i do not wanna farm it

[copper oracle]

no i used to play 4star only
now i play lateranos

4star only takes too much time 🥹 every EX5-8 stage final boss

[ebon plaza]

are all the IS shops the same?

[copper oracle]

no

[ebon plaza]

hmm

lemme just go through them one by one then

[split sphinx]

stallknights 🥀

[obtuse obsidian]

Is shops are not even shops they are more like battle pass

[ebon plaza]

yeah true. is6 level 32 that seems like an okay grind

[native cargo]

was this a limited skin

[nimble kite]

No.

[rocky pilot]

Just wait, it’ll return sometime soon for you to buy again

[ancient belfry]

these two should be E1?

[nimble kite]

No, and no.

New base skill for 5☆+ will open on E2.

And Ceylon does nothing useful further from E0-1.

[sullen shale]

Y'all upgraded tragodia S3 to M3?

Or just focused S2?

[cinder stag]

does logos s1 work as sort of a replacement for og exu?
its worked so far but idk

[turbid ocean]

i mean logos is better by most means

[nimble kite]

Focus on S2.

[turbid ocean]

but isn't going to hit count like exu1

[sullen shale]

I think better lane handling than og exu

[cinder stag]

i c i c, thanks!

[sullen shale]

Against weak/mid enemies

[turbid ocean]

Hes 1000% better at most enemies

only time exu can be better is furniture

[ancient belfry]

Will IS2-5 be easier if I have all my 6 star and 3 star maxed?

[robust thistle]

no

[turbid ocean]

max level is not necessary

[sullen shale]

Oh thanks, but is S3 any worth upgrading?

[nimble kite]

Base skill

[turbid ocean]

its good to have some 3* leveled
not all of them

[robust thistle]

IS is like 80% knowledge check anyways

[nimble kite]

If enemies are Lure Immune, that should be the case.

[copper oracle]

s3 is op bro

[abstract mauve]

there is basically no difference between having the good ones maxed and having all of them maxed
max level doesnt make a difference most of the time compared to recommended level

[sullen shale]

[copper oracle]

upscale dusk s3/mostima s3

[sullen shale]

If I recall, the cage binds the enemies and enemies needs to atk 3 times to break it

[copper oracle]

blocks not binds

[sullen shale]

Oh block, not bind.

[light latch]

the 3 attack is from the nervous impairment

[native cargo]

is silence mechanic still relevant in this game cosnidering the amount of crazy dps units hg released recently

[sullen shale]

Thanks I'll consider upgrading it.

[robust thistle]

3 attack is their the cage HP

[copper oracle]

no... read what s3 does

[sullen shale]

S3 Works in bosses right?

[copper oracle]

yes

[abstract mauve]

as long as they can be blocked ye

[sullen shale]

[copper oracle]

u can use trag to reveal invi too 🗣️

[robust thistle]

any mechanic can be relevant if the game demands it

[subtle dawn]

Who's the best operator that I can get with these tags?

[native cargo]

does lapalter do silence aswell

[robust thistle]

have you checked her kit

[nimble kite]

Yes, read the first talent.

[abstract mauve]

not relevant because no new relevant enemies in recent memory that have silenceable skills
also we havent gotten any new cancer stages based on the stultifera navis mechanics

silence being relevant has less to do with what the meta dps are and more to do with how hg designs enemies

[light latch]

When is the last time they added an enemy u can even silence, much less a relevant one

[gray mulch]

Debuff for guarantee ifrit or healing for 25% nightingale 25% saria

[subtle dawn]

https://www.krooster.com/u/wise-gold-durin-28bc here is my krooster which unit do you think would help me more?

[frigid stream]

Saria would, but it is a 25% chance.

[coarse tide]

Raise ur logos buddy

[shadow bay]

ill just take the guranteed unless u already have ifrit, or just want to wish for a much usable unit, hence gambling ng/saria

[frigid stream]

dont keep your operators on lvl 1 and raise your skills

[gray mulch]

Yeah depends how lucky you're feeling, saria is best for you and nightingale wouldn't be bad either but 50% for dogshit ifrit not bad too and it's guarantee

[subtle dawn]

You think I should take that risk or just go for ifrit, will ifrit be usable in my team tho?

[subtle dawn]

I'm too poor 😔

[robust thistle]

just pick healing and pray its saria/NG

if its not them then tough luck

[frigid stream]

Ifrit works on your team. Saria is better since you don't have good defenders.

[subtle dawn]

Specter and mountain are my lane holders

[frigid stream]

when you e1 an operator, their xp requirements for the early levels kind of gets reset. its pretty cheap to level them up for the first few levels

[gray mulch]

You do eventually want an actual defender but cuora is not bad tbh you'll eventually get her

[subtle dawn]

It barely raises their stats tho unless you get them to max

[robust thistle]

lets be real here, ifrit hasnt seen any real use for the last what, 2 years?

[subtle dawn]

Ok imma just do top op and healing wish me luck guys

[robust thistle]

and thats where you went wrong, the first 50 levels give substantial gains

[gray mulch]

Ifrit not bad for newbies imo she works at e1 too

[robust thistle]

for the cost of like what, 60k LMD?

its the last 30 that costs an arm and a leg

[subtle dawn]

I have a good 191 lmd to my name idk how you expect me to get them to lvl 50 😭 💔 🙏

[robust thistle]

you build a good base and wait

[gray mulch]

Ra/is

[gray mulch]

Well good luck

[subtle dawn]

Yeah I'm trying

[robust thistle]

and being poor is unrelated to your misunderstanding on how level scaling works

[subtle dawn]

By few levels I thought he meant like 5 or 10

[robust thistle]

theres a reason to level up ops outside of stats because modules exist

[gray mulch]

First 10 levels is actually nothing

[frigid stream]

Yes in your case this is what i meant? it takes close to nothing to level up those first 10 levels

[jovial urchin]

Wasn't Ifrit in a good number of arts comp in ccb3? Dunno about max risk though I haven't been there yet

[subtle dawn]

Yeah but it barely raises their stats so shouldnt I just save that lmd and put it towards my base

[frigid stream]

huh?

[gray mulch]

Yeah ccb3 used ifrit

[robust thistle]

is ccB3 here

[gray mulch]

Well it was in the last 2 years

[robust thistle]

well ig its good to get one op for one specific content

[gray mulch]

I mean she's good in annih the main gen content newb can't get carried in but maybe I'm over valuing her because she carried me when I was newb way back when

[robust thistle]

it is overvaluing unfortunately, ifrit comp isnt as good as people think it was

[frigid stream]

Yeah I think its better to gamble for ng/saria in this case though for the recruitment

[gray mulch]

The best thing about ifrit is really that her tag seems common and it makes her easy guarantee

[robust thistle]

it was just the 'standard easy afk comp' for anni 3
the actual easy way is to just clear anni 3 and farm anni 2
not to mention rotating maps exist now which can be easier than anni 3

[frigid stream]

I don't think raising the base takes any lmd? Also no you're still wrong, it does give a pretty big stat boost for the lmd for the first few levels.

[robust thistle]

raising base uses a lot of LMD

[gray mulch]

Crafting the crates takes lmd and actual building eats drones

[frigid stream]

Oh the base slaves and building mats yeah mb

[robust thistle]

the blocks

[native cargo]

whos the best shift in the game

[winter crystal]

Push weedy, pull gladiia no?

You got budget pulls with rope 4 star and Shaw push

[storm briar]

Which mon3tr skill is the best to m3 first, i have that voucher from IS and i wanna use it on her

[spare jetty]

2>>3

[thorny edge]

she's a good medic with s2 and buffs with s2 and she's true damage dps with s3
pick ur poison depending on what u wanna use her for

[spark gyro]

Guys what is the best base setup?

[frigid stream]

check #r-i-i-c pins

Yo any idea what I should level up next? I'm thinking ray or degenbrecher s3 mastery. https://www.krooster.com/u/phonixdrive

[subtle dawn]

Guys I sped up the recruitment and got bleminshine 💔

[reef sparrow]

so I should just skip and farm woods per season for glowsticks method?

[subtle dawn]

Is bleminshine worth using in my team or nah?

[lyric lagoon]

at least free certs

[reef sparrow]

this will be tough but I guess better than playing this game mode every again

[pale tapir]

no maria washed

she cute tho

[subtle dawn]

Yeah I guess

I wish I got saria tho 😔

[pale tapir]

just use gummy

[pale tapir]

if u use ray often yea s3m3 very good

[rustic pond]

Is ray worth leveling if i already have lemuen? i got her in the same ten with logos but i dont care much for her

[pale tapir]

not particularly
her main thing is single target dph with bind and lemon does the first part really well already
-# holding back my ray agenda so hard rn

[rustic pond]

i see, thank u

[worldly sky]

https://www.krooster.com/u/alive-honey-raven-24ca

any suggestions on who i should invest in

mainly just waiting for sash2 and pramanix2 rn so idk where to spend my sanity

[lyric lagoon]

I mean if you’re that devoted to them, are all the materials for them pre-farmed

[frigid stream]

Probably matsukuri mastery for dp gen

[worldly sky]

is that worth it if im guaranteed sash2

[worldly sky]

where do i find what mats i need

[robust thistle]

wiki

[gray mulch]

There's a planner in krooster

[thorny edge]

e1 purestream

[worldly sky]

the gray numbers underneath is the quantity i have right

[worldly sky]

what does she do? or mainly just for is6 faction

[thorny edge]

good burst heal and she has good base skill

[worldly sky]

oh got it thanks

[frigid stream]

Imo yeah. if dp gen is not an issue don't bother. Although if you do IS, you could also do myrtle since its cheaper to do

[gray mulch]

Myrtle is not high prio at all

[thorny edge]

gng they already have myrtle at e1
thats raised

[gray mulch]

Yeah e2 is not that important

Just finish your 6 star masteries/mods

Could raise entel if you want

[split sphinx]

why yall suggesting placeholder masteries they not even done with the 6stars

[frigid stream]

its cheap to do ig

[worldly sky]

do i need to go past m1 for people like haruka and eyja? i feel like they arent that impactful

[gray mulch]

It's cheaper to not do it

[thorny edge]

u can leave haruka at sl7 and her s2 will still be the best healing skill in the game
get mod1 tho

[copper oracle]

wtf r placeholder masteries

[worldly sky]

yea i have it on her and eyja and i just got monster 😭

[split sphinx]

max these out

[gray mulch]

eyja s3 and haru s3 gains are good, but you use them less often. eyja s1 and haru s2 mostly lets their skill come online faster

[worldly sky]

is surtr still comp? ive honestly never used her after e2 her

[sleek finch]

surtr kinda fell off when you get better ops

[thorny edge]

i feel like if they have howshitter at s3m3 they dont rly need surtr asw

[pale tapir]

given your limited roster she could still be useful but yeah you do have better options

[thorny edge]

also like im iffy on mon3tr s2m3
like whats the point of mon3tr in gen content 😔

[lyric lagoon]

welcome to another episode of “en makes shit up!”

[split sphinx]

you have only 3 other dps (4 if you cope m3 dps), surtr should do work still

[pale tapir]

e0 lv1 enchilada rip my girl

[worldly sky]

i just never find a reason to place her down tbh hoshi and sakiko do 10 times her damage

[thorny edge]

so much of their dps is arts already 🥹

[lyric lagoon]

and they’re gonna get even more arts with pram2

[thorny edge]

yeah they're drowning in arts damage

[gray mulch]

That's why you should raise entel mod soontm

[split sphinx]

hoshi2 and sakiko are already pretty much maxed, are you just not going to raise anyone else 💀

[worldly sky]

i just dont want to waste resources on a op i wont use

[gray mulch]

Yeah surtr is whatever

[lyric lagoon]

#1480479361885933792 pins

[worldly sky]

im wondering who to raise but i dont want to just raise for the sake of raising

[tepid thistle]

You will use surtr to helidrop bosses

[frigid stream]

m3 your sakiko first

[gray mulch]

They have hoshi2 for that

[robust thistle]

most of raising ops are just raising for the sake of raising once you get to a certain point

[thorny edge]

they have howshitter already

[worldly sky]

hoshi just nukes

[split sphinx]

game is too generous on resources to hoard like that imo resources aren't that tight

[gray mulch]

They're not at that point yet tho

[robust thistle]

youre just doing vertical investment just for that 30%~ power boost

[thorny edge]

ok but like they're level 58 and like this is clearly just a lack of good ops

[worldly sky]

ive only been playing for a month and a half

[robust thistle]

yes they've reached 'that point' in their account, they have minimal options

[split sphinx]

yeah just skip surtr since you're dead set on not using her

[lyric lagoon]

enchilada time

[robust thistle]

once they get new ops later then they'll have more homework

[gray mulch]

Entel with upcoming mod looks good imo

[thorny edge]

god they're just gonna have so much fucking arts damage
pram alt -> mantra -> wang
maybe not mantra

[robust thistle]

just do sakiko and haruka, then decide later

[worldly sky]

is there info on what patch that comes out?

[pale tapir]

my poor abandoned enchinchilla

[lyric lagoon]

mantra is before pram alt anyways, no one’s pulling

[thorny edge]

we call that hit count damage

[split sphinx]

matsukiri masteries get replaced by sash2

[lyric lagoon]

well no one should be pulling

[gray mulch]

I think it was sash2 patch?

[worldly sky]

shes carrying me in the event rn she feels strong

[frigid stream]

dps gets replaced by wang

[thorny edge]

i might honestly pull. my beloved cn dalao said potential hag might be useful

[worldly sky]

oh okay bet ill raise her then

[robust thistle]

anyone feels strong with a bajillion buffs
lavalter feels usable in RM

[split sphinx]

there are 9 dps slots on a squad vg is like 1
no comparison

[lyric lagoon]

titi…

[gray mulch]

Mb

[lyric lagoon]

it’s not gonna be anytime soon rn

[worldly sky]

oh ic ig ill just save my lmd for sash then

[gray mulch]

Rip I've only really used her in is6 gvg but she seems not bad rn still. But prefarm is always a good option yeah

[pale tapir]

she's still good, just not competitive with other guards without that new mod

[gray mulch]

Yeah since you don't have the better guards I think she's a fine raise

[worldly sky]

ok thanks guys

[queen locust]

which one should i choose?

[analog birch]

healing for ng gamble

supporter for suzu gabmle

[nimble kite]

And please for the love of God
Use your refreshes.

[queen locust]

bro i just wake up 😔

[split sphinx]

proceeds to refresh top op away

would suzu gamble

[tranquil vector]

low on lmd. do i just wait for my base to make me some? is it a waste of stamina to farm the supplies maps?

[frigid stream]

Yeah your better off spending the sanity elsewhere

[gray mulch]

Never farm CE. You can farm ra/is rewards instead

[tranquil vector]

sorry im new. idk what those acronyms are

[gray mulch]

Reclamation algorithm and integrated strategies they unlock after chapter 3

[tranquil vector]

gotcha. thank you all

[split sphinx]

check your base to see how much you're making daily

[frigid stream]

CE is the lmd stage name, IS and RA are two sanity/stamina free modes that can sometimes give you lmd.

[gray mulch]

There's also some lmd in sss (stationary security service) missions as well

[tranquil vector]

only making 32kish daily rn 🙁

[gray mulch]

That's ok for a newbie

[tranquil vector]

i dont have many ops to make the optimal teams for trading posts

[split sphinx]

newbies should be making 40k+

[signal dragon]

#bot-spam /baseskillls

[tranquil vector]

im doing the movcements stuff i think its past events? for some more chars

[frigid stream]

Yeah aim for 40k+ and check #r-i-i-c pins for guides

[tranquil vector]

i only have lvl 2 posts rn. that might be why?

[gray mulch]

If you already got the characters mentioned in the newbie guide I'd focus on first clearing all the annih and story as you can first, since crafting is locked behind certain story stages

And do side stories when you're stuck in story

[tepid thistle]

For gold bar production how many gold bars should you produce daily?

[split sphinx]

like a little less than your lmd production cause you have other sources than base

[thorny edge]

and if u have tequila

[split sphinx]

don't stress too much about it tbh just look at your gold count
if it's too low, convert an exp factory to gold. and vice versa

[young violet]

Is cannot is6 floor 1 easy? My team has raidian and exu e1

[nimble kite]

Difficulty?

[gray mulch]

Easy with raidian exu ye

Use raidian s1

[tranquil vector]

is there a pin for the current event thing? rebuilding mandate. jk i see it

[gray mulch]

#1480479361885933792 message

[fathom hawk]

is there a guide 😭 i’m skill issuing hella

[young violet]

7

[young violet]

How vro

[gray mulch]

Oh if you picked agent you can kill the statue with it but it's fine

[urban sleet]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1K68AzmE27

[fathom hawk]

:-:

[urban sleet]

mb

[formal shadow]

bro linking IS central discord

[urban sleet]

I thought it redirected to bili and not a msg

[thorny edge]

thats enough to rob cannot 😔

[urban sleet]

-# thanks for timezone self-doxx btw

[hybrid halo]

what is the hardest IS?

[obtuse obsidian]

Dont you already live in his walls anyway

[coarse notch]

need more context level, in general, at the highest difficulty, to farm, etc

[thorny edge]

relicless is5

[obtuse obsidian]

Highest D would say 2 tbh

[urban sleet]

IS2 hard to play cuz boring

[thorny edge]

true fuck bsl

[hybrid halo]

hardest overall, like, newbie-friendly?

[coarse notch]

is5 2a45t3 fractured

[thorny edge]

is3 is not newbie friendly

[coarse notch]

i think is4 starting out feels worse because of the -40% score gain

[thorny edge]

i think is3 feels more shit to play tho

[arctic cargo]

Is5 is the easiest imo , with relics tho lol

[coarse notch]

also true

[thorny edge]

like is4 sure but like it feels fair
is3 feels like grating ur balls with a cheesegrater

[obtuse obsidian]

4 is slightly complicated but 3 rng will make you feel worst

[coarse notch]

idk the light mechanic basically doesnt exist on d0

[silver smelt]

is2 is the hardest cs its so fucking boring
also hopium economy

[hybrid halo]

bcz I want to get the Mizuki skin in IS3 but not sure how long it will take to farm

[coarse notch]

that will take quite a long time
maybe like 20-30 hours? idk tbh

[thorny edge]

true is2 is so boring i tried to do a run before bed and fell asleep on f2
personal best

[obtuse obsidian]

I assume newbies will end up leaking here and there

[thorny edge]

and newbies have garbo roster

[coarse notch]

true

is4 is so sad nowadays with exu2

[thorny edge]

exu2, mizuki, angelina, tragussy, lemuen 😔

[fathom hawk]

dgaf anymore 😭💔

[uncut fox]

How do tactician tactical points work? If I retreat the TP, do I need to redeploy the tactician to get the TP back?

[tiny abyss]

Won't all tactician summon enter a dead state instead and respawn after a while, so you can't repo them

[robust thistle]

if you retreat it, it counts as dead

[thorny edge]

they're fixed until you redeploy the operator. when u retreat the tp it just dies and regenerates after a bit

[robust thistle]

you cant move it once you've dropped it

[urban sleet]

You can't exactly retreat the tactical point, it enters a dead state with 0 block and remains so until it regains all its hp

[tepid thistle]

Anyone know the diff between Logos M2 vs M3 dps?

[robust thistle]

why would you stop at m2

[uncut fox]

I don't suppose the TP dying and reviving count as a deployment?

[robust thistle]

the summon never leaves the field

[urban sleet]

Is this for mumu's monthly mission in IS4?

[uncut fox]

Yeah, and sometimes when you pick a shit place for the TP.

[urban sleet]

Need to retreat mumu and redeploh her and her TP

[nimble kite]

Raidian on the right, deploy some blockers.

Myrtle and ExuAlt on the left, killing dragon head.

Sussuro assist healing on Raidian and ExuAlt.

Should be bearable to win leakless.

[light latch]

you are in the wrong server

[warm harbor]

Bro just tell me is the 10 pulls permanent?

[elder coyote]

yuh

[robust thistle]

still wrong server

[split sphinx]

this aint endfield

[spare jetty]

no this isn't endfield server

[spare jetty]

go check dms

[inland swallow]

how can we get distinction cert? can we save up to 258 in 3months esp when pulling limited banner?

[pseudo flume]

First pull, Dupe Tokens after Max Pot

[hybrid bluff]

Is executor alt worth getting

[pseudo flume]

Nope

[formal shadow]

no

[coarse notch]

shouldnt be pulling standard rotating anyways

[hybrid bluff]

Ok

[inland swallow]

i see... for the dupe, gold cert can be obtained only when the unit is alrd max pot regardless rarities i assume?

[pseudo flume]

Only on 4 - 6★

[coarse notch]

the rules for obtaining certs are listed in the cert shop

[pseudo flume]

5 and 6★ can give Gold Certs whenever a dupe appears

[inland swallow]

ah i see... thx a lot for the info

[inland swallow]

hehe got it 🫡

[split sphinx]

if you pull a lot yes

[uncut fox]

What are good OPs for Mumu to copy these days?

[nimble kite]

Ela/Doro/ExuAlt/Aak
Mine

[wild cedar]

Narantuya

Logos if you need arts

[reef sparrow]

anyone knows how many points for all in RA shop?

[spare jetty]

dont ask the number just grind

[coarse tide]

Do it until u buy everyting

[reef sparrow]

don't mind if I do

[spare jetty]

or just

sum all of it by yourself
using a calculator ofc

[turbid ocean]

its near 300K

290+

[reef sparrow]

aight

[thorny edge]

[uncut fox]

Dorothy? Who is Mine?

[spare tide]

This is basically game over right? Just afk the resources and get the medals

[nimble kite]

Yes.
Mine is mine preferable ops.

[nimble kite]

And clear 4 more Hell stages to 5/5 medals.

[spare tide]

I honestly expected something worse like RA and lags due to the map size, but everything so far have been below my expectations (in term of difficulty)

Which means it's pretty fun

[late surge]

how does support units work in the new event ? the list is always empty for me

[uncut fox]

I actually would have preferred RA tbh, this feels mininalist.

[spare tide]

I mean it's time limited

While RA is permanent

[nimble kite]

You need to gacha ops first to pick up from SupportUnit, if someone has this op actually.

You hate that? Open 4th SupportUnit to remove that restriction.

[proven kelp]

To borrow an Operator, you need to fill 2 conditions

"Gacha" that operator and that operator should be unowned to your actual account

Wasting Skill Tree points allow you to remove the restrictions and act as the usual Borrow System

[dull estuary]

Does U-official come around every April fools

Is lumen a half decent healer

[hollow musk]

Who should I choose?
New player btw

[nimble kite]

Even if we say yes, would be considered to not build him anyway?

[nimble kite]

Surtr.

[dull estuary]

I like his collab skin so maybe

[nimble kite]

He is overpriced for his job doing medic stuff. Are you really sure?

[hollow musk]

Ok she will help me in early games?

[nimble kite]

In endgame.

[dull estuary]

I mean idk thats why im asking here

[nimble kite]

Then just level Silence and ditch him forever.

[dull estuary]

Ok

[copper oracle]

he is good enough for gen content

if u dont care abt hard content u can use most of the untis u like as long as ur sufficiently good enough at the game

[slow sun]

What the daily reset time? Is it same as endfield?

[copper oracle]

in 4 hours

[hollow musk]

Who should I choose in this 5 star selector?

[nimble kite]

No, different.

Endfield one (EU/NA) is 9:00 AM GTM (2h remaining).
Arknights Classic is 11:00 AM GTM (4h remaining).

[proven kelp]

1 min too early smh

[copper oracle]

thats not even correct cos u didnt specify which server

[nimble kite]

Here.

[copper oracle]

eu and na share the same reset time?

[slow sun]

Oh ok

[nimble kite]

Yes, it's the single server.
There's Asia and this one.

[copper oracle]

[split plover]

Hey this operator rate up thingy who r the best to choose is it listed somewhere