help

[humble nova]

that makes her a good staller too then..

[lone valley]

Its why we always said she has like a 16s bind

[humble nova]

well to my knowledge I didnt know

[reef sparrow]

thought of Ines bind eh

[lone valley]

Skill issue or something idk

[short steppe]

Who should I pair with Tequilla for base work

[lyric lagoon]

the slop qiubai ines tragodia bind loop

[wild cedar]

Shamare and bibeak

[lone valley]

Bibeak shamare

[short steppe]

Im gonna assume E2 for Bibeak

[median fable]

Shamare is the one you need to have at e2

[lone valley]

Wrong

[lone valley]

Jj pookie

[median fable]

hiiii

[reef sparrow]

whoever got this base skill, not limited to bibeak

[boreal steeple]

Not needed unless you find smth for combat bibeak

[short steppe]

So basically the Tailoring skill

[lone valley]

Theres only like, 2 ops with it brochacho

[urban sleet]

Yeah get the tailors

[boreal steeple]

4

[turbid ocean]

yes, Bibeak Paprika Diamante Kafka Mitm

[raven ermine]

Do not the kafka

[boreal steeple]

Oh mitm

[wild cedar]

And do not the mitm cause that skill doesn’t improve lol

[turbid ocean]

Mitm doesn't upgrade at E2

Whatever the case you prob dont want to E2 them for base

[raven ermine]

mitm is bad tho, it's not the same tailoring
Or is it past e2 ?

[turbid ocean]

its same tailoring at E0

[raven ermine]

[turbid ocean]

it just doesn't upgrade to tailoring β

[short steppe]

I need to check my power for my base- its been at like 540 for awhile and I keep seeing people with 840 power or something

[random shard]

That's for 3 power plants. That's bad

[wild cedar]

The 810 ppl are doing it unwisely

[boreal steeple]

810 since 3 powerplants so 243

[short steppe]

Really- I swear i've seen people with only two but I could just be blind or remembering poorly

[median fable]

btw, Mitm doesn't benefit from e2 in shamteq

[turbid ocean]

reading check

[median fable]

I lagged

[wild cedar]

💀

[boreal steeple]

[wild cedar]

Light can you include this in the pins btw

#1480479361885933792 message

[boreal steeple]

E2 shamare skill disables others order eff. So mitm e2 skill is not working

[arctic hawk]

yes we know

[wild cedar]

I feel like we will be told to move on so let’s move on

[turbid ocean]

done

[mossy linden]

light can you check dm, i'm mind blown

[formal shadow]

[raven ermine]

Damn, light, nice game 🥹

[formal shadow]

-# moving up in the world

[vital kelp]

would u say ines is good shoperator

[raven ermine]

Yes

[formal shadow]

yeah probably. Her utility is just that good

[raven ermine]

Would even be worth for pots depending on what you aim for

[vital kelp]

unfortunately im a bit broke on yellow cert to buy her pots oh well

[glad elm]

Which skill to m3 on ray

[median fable]

s3

[haughty pebble]

Is it worth getting 15 yellow certs or getting near 50 kohl/manganese with siege event currency

[glad elm]

What about ascalon?

[raven ermine]

15 certs obviously

[gentle bluff]

15 certs

[haughty pebble]

Cool

[raven ermine]

s2 modx1

[reef sparrow]

may I know how would you get that 15 gold certs

[urban sleet]

Should've bought out pots first

[glad elm]

Gotcha

[raven ermine]

welfare dupes

[reef sparrow]

oh, I thought it's something else

[haughty pebble]

Didn't get all the pots last year so I'm only getting 3 dupes this year

[wild cedar]

Each gives 5 certs so 15 does sound suspicious

[urban sleet]

Should've gotten all pots last year unless busy irl

[wild cedar]

Rip

[reef sparrow]

this is the first thing that comes to my mind

[past thicket]

btw is this worth 10 pulls for the guaranteed 6* i got ray in orienteering

[median fable]

do single pulls til you get a 6* to save

[frosty flame]

What am I supposed to do here

[boreal steeple]

Idk you're dead most likely

[arctic hawk]

you lose 💀 unironically

[frosty flame]

What even is the point of this thing

[arctic hawk]

you found a special surprise and you were not prepared

[boreal steeple]

Not taking the encounter with traps

[frosty flame]

So how am I supposed to be prepared

[boreal steeple]

Wiki nodes

[arctic hawk]

You be prepared by drafting better

[wild cedar]

You can’t deal with this with your current team, don’t even have a chance unfortunately

[arctic hawk]

If your draft is bad no one will be able to help you in some stages

[urban sleet]

IS is all about failing and learning

[arctic hawk]

Checking wiki won't do anything
You need to have a good general idea of how an IS plays out

[lyric lagoon]

and then cursing the rng

[median fable]

just play relicless

[urban sleet]

Me when I dont get a single medic ticket

[wild cedar]

Cope with amiya

[lyric lagoon]

me when all caster tickets

[median fable]

me when I get 10 medic tickets

[boreal steeple]

dont need it

[urban sleet]

Unfortunarely I am not dalao

Tho tbh I should watch all those solo raidian clears ngl

[boreal steeple]

You should but some needs some help like relics or other op

[frosty flame]

Should I just keep trying or ignore IS for now

[urban sleet]

IS gives rewards rn at a boosted rate atm but otherwise its a permanent mode

[wild cedar]

Try rm

[runic willow]

Most of the times I gotta avoid that stage altogether

Or allow some leakage if not fully prepared

[runic willow]

If you find it fun you could stick to is5 or 6 still

[woven fjord]

if you are interested enough to glimpse stages before going into them then head over to tomimi.dev

find the theme, then the stage, and then you can use the stage simulator to see where enemies come from and when

[arctic hawk]

yeap tomimi links to the map.ark directly

[woven fjord]

stage knowlege is the first step to winning IS, adapting on the fly can come later

[boreal steeple]

Weak people leak dalao does it 2 op relicless

[ancient current]

@abstract mauve pinging you again cause you use her
does Vetochki have anything for herself beyond being a Vulcan sidegrade? not recommendable for newbies for sure but she's just that? has ur opinion changed on her since it's been a while?
(asking this to others too)

[rough plover]

Is executor alt module decent?

[ancient current]

he wants it

[safe tundra]

mandatory

[rough plover]

Ight guess I’ll go get it, mod x is the good one right? I think I saw another one on the wiki but it’s not in game yet

[ancient current]

genuinely forgot if Y had an angle over X, iirc no

[safe tundra]

what effect was it

[ancient current]

[raven ermine]

Idt so, the whole dodge gimmick is pretty bad

[ancient current]

in either case he has always wanted modX3

[safe tundra]

🥀

[rough plover]

Lmao

[raven ermine]

modx is way better, just go with x3

[undone portal]

straight vulcan upgrade imo, most parts of their kits are very similar but vetochki has better skill cycling, onskill dps and frighten. only thing vulcan has over her is healing at start of skill instead of at end, so vetochki has the gummy/senshi special of having to predict when youll need the healing

also does shileds use her on the main acc? shes not welfare

[ancient current]

i should ping you too when i have schizo questions

[potent glacier]

How do you dispatch and get support to show up in the Rebuilding Mandates event? I got plenty of unowned units and have cleared the 4 main stages, but nothing ever shows up here

[safe tundra]

vulcan was more suited as a brick than a dps anyway, considering module

[ancient current]

he did use her iirc
idk if he has been ever since

[abstract mauve]

i dont think my opinion on her has changed a whole lot. main thing differentiating both of them is the cycle. vetochki just has a waaaaay better cycle so i believe at the end of the day vetochki will be better

[abstract mauve]

i focus more on welfares and im ngl i cant fully make up my mind on some of them till they come to EN

[safe tundra]

veto cute ill pull her

-# watch as i accidentally get mantra

[ancient current]

does veto actually need high investment to work?

vulcan does so i'm wondering

[boreal steeple]

She works better with investment tbh

[ancient current]

well, all operators do

[wild cedar]

Your friends don’t have a variety of units ig, and also use this thread in the future #1480479361885933792

[raven ermine]

[safe tundra]

no way

[boreal steeple]

If dps-wise lol

[ancient current]

how broken is vetochki

[abstract mauve]

vetochki does gain a decent amount of survivability from mod. i think it would be a little hard to forgo it

[ancient current]

not very recommendable for the average joe then

[boreal steeple]

Wait i didn't read that veto heals after skill

[abstract mauve]

i mean i feel like on a fresh account if i pulled her i'd build her but also that's just me

[bitter hornet]

are pozy, fiametta, or ines worth leveling in the new mode?

[raven ermine]

No, in early, no

[wild cedar]

Fiametta sure other two not really

[ancient current]

shileds have you considered it to be niche background bias
well tbh i don't even know her performance at e1 so idk

what could she bring beyond someone like cuora and stuff

[boreal steeple]

Pozy - no, fia - needs e2, ines - prolly e2 too, needs for later stages and synergizes well but early wise you need dps

[abstract mauve]

i mean i do consider the 2 newer 5* defenders to be on the better end of 5*s. like they're actually kinda nice. being cairn and vetochki so

[bitter hornet]

thanks all

[ancient current]

wow cairn good

forgot what she does

[raven ermine]

No need to e2 fia, she's just an early placeholder for aoe at e1
No need to e2 ines, vanguards are just not good in the mode

[gray mulch]

Ines should be useful in later stages

[abstract mauve]

nervous impairment primal defender. her entire kit is like yu's 1st talent kinda

[raven ermine]

You mean, unreleased stages or ?

[gray mulch]

Yeah

[abstract mauve]

i think they did a pretty good job with her at least

[ancient current]

ic

[raven ermine]

Ah, i didn't check CN, so she might
Are there invis enemies ? Or tight need for dp ?

[ancient current]

wb snegurochka? i heard she was good in base 🥹

[safe tundra]

i read her skills and 🥀

[gray mulch]

Mostly for invis yeah

[ancient current]

i read her skills and 🥀 too

[raven ermine]

Snegu is part of bis automation

[abstract mauve]

idk about base but her skills are atrocious

[safe tundra]

i thinj puzzle is better than her in combat

[median fable]

she isn't
she's used instead of passegner in old automation combo if you have a lv3 fac for that

[abstract mauve]

that's a guarantee brother

[ancient current]

that's giga ass...

better off recommending myrtle i guess...

[median fable]

useful if 243, but that's it

[ancient current]

(for combat not base)

[vital kelp]

rechord approved raising myrtle ril?

[median fable]

we all do btw

[abstract mauve]

CN maintenance started

[gray mulch]

I think sneg looks good in base

[pale tapir]

myrtle good lying about myrtle bad

[median fable]

we just don't recommend e2 her early or even at all

[vital kelp]

everyone in help recommending raising myrtle ril?

[ancient current]

but like why specifically are sneg skills shit, is it just the applicability?

[wild cedar]

Crap I forgot to clear sanity 💀

[median fable]

for a newbie e1 sl7 myrtle is nice to have, she's easy to get and cheap to raise

[abstract mauve]

puzzle downgrade. literally all of puzzles kit but just worse 🥹

[ancient current]

and we already don't recommend puzzle... alright...

not even a cheap decent dp gen for newbies 😔

[modern pilot]

Guys is qiubai good? Should I build her?

[median fable]

let's hope for some good base skills 🥹

[gray mulch]

It's still 145% gold isn't that good?

[median fable]

above average, raising her or not depends on your roster

[median fable]

115% is made only by Weedy and Purestream, Sneg is a filler for 30% and nth crazy

[raven ermine]

if 243
For 252 it's 130%, and on your best rotation you won't have access to lv3 facs if max right

Also cc slot

[gray mulch]

Sheets says 145% with eunectes+lancet

[median fable]

it is

[gray mulch]

I see I'll still use her haha

[safe tundra]

snegurochka means you dont need to raise assenger or windflit for 3rd slot if eunectes is in CC

[crystal holly]

is it known if ines will ever get a second mod?
also if i were to mod virtuosa would x or y be better?

[wild cedar]

Not known

[raven ermine]

Running lancet is not optimal tho, isn't it ?
You'd rather have another 20%PP for extra droning on tps

[median fable]

2 pp + 2 pp from Eun Lancet+1 pp from greyy2=5 pp
Weedy has 15%*5pp=75%
Purestream has 40% since 2 tp
Sneg has 30%

[raven ermine]

That's 10% extra prod% for tps

[median fable]

20% pp --> 10% production which is higher if you drone proviso
with dead lancet you get an extra 30% production for gold

[gray mulch]

You can run it with pudding

[median fable]

as said, she's not bad. She fills the 3rd slot for Eun/Greyy2 automation combo
generally she's kinda useless since you'd rather use the lv3 facs for better combos

[raven ermine]

Yeah that's what i mean
I'd rather drone tp more than have 15% more gold prod
Where are you getting 30% ? i'm not sure i follow

[median fable]

Eun gets 2 pp count from dead lancet
Weedy gets 15% production for each pp so a net 30%

[median fable]

that one is just bad

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah, mb

[woven fjord]

Main issue with sneg is 7 sp off rec power strike, even with Archetto funneling her she gets bricked by sp lockout and her cast animation is long as balls

[gray mulch]

What's the better combos?

[median fable]

could be coping if you're using JK and Pinus combo (or newbie)
talking about Pudding

[wild cedar]

Mod suggestion in pins, Idk enough about virtuosa to answer

[modern pilot]

This is my roster.

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/bri

[raven ermine]

for fac level3, vermeil exp, pinus, bryo, if no exodia ofc

[median fable]

mainly vermeil and bryo

[crystal holly]

o thx

[abstract mauve]

is her cast animation substantially longer than lets say puzzle s1? not taking into consideration SP costs ofc just the animation

[raven ermine]

Not running pinus is a crime

[boreal steeple]

Now i have a final answer to ignore assenger completely, thanks for that

[gray mulch]

My purestream shift makes more than bryo shift tho

[safe tundra]

erm i dont have vivy. my pinus is bricked as shit

[median fable]

she can be e2, not such a high prio
I'd rather do SA and Surtr first probably

[raven ermine]

What's your purestream setup ?

[median fable]

Pinus doesn't strictly require a lv3 fac

[gray mulch]

Full eunectes combo just waiting for sneg

[median fable]

I'd rather mention Rhine lab combo for that for example

[safe tundra]

a single e2 pinus + FT is 35 right? same as e1 conviction

[raven ermine]

So you're using way more slots than just lv3 fac

[median fable]

what base setup do you have?
I just told you don't need the sneg, just use the lv2 fac for them

[boreal steeple]

Puzzle from temu?

[median fable]

if you add Vivi it's a 42% but yeah

[safe tundra]

sob

[raven ermine]

True, i don't even run my pinus in a lv3 fac actually

[gray mulch]

That's fair, but I don't think I have a better cc worker than eunectes and even if I ditch lancet it would still be making more gold than bryo

[woven fjord]

not actually sure. but regardless its long as balls and you lose a lot of gen time because of it

[raven ermine]

If you ditch lancet you gain 10% on a trading post, more if proviso

[median fable]

there is no need to ditch lancet

[gray mulch]

you're right

[median fable]

you'll result in Proviso not being sustainable

[gray mulch]

My gold stock is pretty stable rn I could go for more tp maybe

[raven ermine]

Also with pinus bryo in rotation, gravel is a 47% gold worker

[median fable]

you can run one shift with dead lancet/greyy2 and another with 20%pp worker/greyy2

what is your base layout?

[gray mulch]

Yeah that's what I'm doing rn actually

[median fable]

This automation team uses Greyy Alter in PP as core to save a CC slot for other operators and gain more Drones while keeping/not losing too much productivity. Eunectes can be put in CC by having a distracted Lancet in PP, netting a 7.5% increase in productivity for all setups.
btw, this is from the sheet

[ionic herald]

Which 6 stars to get for this event? In the free recruitment

[boreal steeple]

Wisadel, logos, ascalon main 3

[gray mulch]

I missed christine

[zenith wolf]

Which operators should I draft next? I got 2 selection vouchers I can use

[raven ermine]

Tragodia + christine are just placeholders for scene/pallas in vermeil exp

They're better for first few hours, idr exactly when the ramp up of scene overtake their prod

[gray mulch]

Idk how I feel about raising scene tho seems the gains are not that big from ceobe

[wild cedar]

Logos reed2

[raven ermine]

I'm missing pallas so my vermeil is scene ceobe too
But if i get pallas i'll e2 her for base, what am i going to do with all those resources

[zenith wolf]

Thanks. Anyone else I can consider afterwards?

[gray mulch]

Lol true. I might raise scene later

I'm still recovering from taking a break from the game rn so I'm a bit short on resources unfortunately

[wild cedar]

You might already clear the event by that point lol hoshi2 is also an option, idk experiment with whoever you want

Use Wis s1 btw

[shadow bay]

sitting at e0 pallas:

[pale pebble]

Is there another limited 6* after saalter or is it still unknown?

[raven ermine]

We know about wang, a sui sibling

[zenith wolf]

Also. What's the best setup for items to bring?

[pale pebble]

Anything about her kit or design?
Or was she just teased?

[zenith wolf]

Which logos skill? 3 by default? Cos S1 seems pretty good too

[zenith wolf]

Wang is male, and does 10000000 arts damage.

[pale pebble]

What! No way

[zenith wolf]

Like he's genuinely disgustingly powerful

[raven ermine]

Wang has released already
He's a trapmaster, you can check the kit online

[wild cedar]

S1, cause it deletes enemies
And if you want elongated conversations go to #1480479361885933792

[silver smelt]

global range point and click arts nuke

[pale pebble]

Ok thank you!
||every limited op is available for spark aswell right?||

[gray mulch]

They become available a year after release on their respective banner type

[silver smelt]

or u cna just spend 300 pulls and guarantee him on his debut banner

[raven ermine]

Every limited is available for spark yes, but only on their type of banner
Say for example, Dusk, that released on a CNY banner, will only be sparkable on another CNY banner, not summer, celebration, etc

[pale pebble]

No i mean every limited op that has already been in the spark shop before
To make sure they dont pick and chose each limited event

[gray mulch]

All the old limited ops from that banner type (eg CNY "festival") will be available in spark shop, yes. The older ones cost 200 and newer ones cost 300 but they don't "retire" or anything

[pale pebble]

Hard pity is at 90k right?

[silver smelt]

hard pity is 300

[wild cedar]

Double that

[formal shadow]

Maths

[gray mulch]

600x300

[pale pebble]

oof

[silver smelt]

ur most likely never reaching 300 pulls tho

[raven ermine]

I've seen this one thrown around quite a bit
Hard pity is 300
150 is basically when you can expect, approximately, probability wise, to hit both rate up

For wang, 150 would be 79.5% chance to hit for example

For both wang and chen3, 61%

[wild cedar]

Feel like people are confusing it with standard banner single rate-up hard pity or sth

[raven ermine]

Oh, maybe yeah

Even then, it's not hard pity, it's next 6* after 150

[gray mulch]

Even then you need to hit a 6* after 150

I hit 200 on leizialt because I got tilted

[silver smelt]

worth

[gray mulch]

No regrets tbh

[formal shadow]

I pulled 153 on mon3tr

[pale tapir]

yeah it took me 167 on ascalon rerun

[silver smelt]

the yapper

[pale pebble]

The thing is I'm mainly rolling to spark another op
The rate up is a very nice extra
But the rate up dosent apply to off rate ups right?

[formal shadow]

Of course not

[silver smelt]

Its in the name

Ngl sparking shu on wang banner sounds like a fine choice

[formal shadow]

Shu overrated 🏃‍♂️

[raven ermine]

An optimist, i see

[silver smelt]

yes we get it shes not high prio is draft smh my head

[gray mulch]

Nah seems like a good banner to spark shu, wang pots are good

[formal shadow]

Still wouldn't recommend it

[silver smelt]

& good standard alongside

[pale pebble]

Well thanks for the help!

[gray mulch]

Like if you plan on ever sparking shu now is the best time

[silver smelt]

oh no im not recommending it
however if you do want to spark this is thr best time lol

[silver smelt]

ye im sparking shu

[raven ermine]

Spark for exodia instead 🤫

[gray mulch]

I honestly might lol

[silver smelt]

true im hoping for all the suiblings for base

[ancient lintel]

Nah, wait for exodia 2.0

[raven ermine]

You can keep coping, no way we're getting an exodia 2.0

[coarse notch]

this is like if having nalaxone made an opiate addiction less bad
like yes, but also

[raven ermine]

Proviso was already a mistake, they won't do it twice

[coarse notch]

im sparking dusk exactly for that purpose

[undone portal]

what im doing, im sparking for dusk
totally for exodia yea. whats familial sentiment

[coarse notch]

true family drag each other into a lifetime of servitude in the base apparently

[formal shadow]

Simply offrate her

[ancient lintel]

I'll never get my hands on exodia so I'll just get my hands on the twink or the cutting board 🥀

[severe crypt]

Or be me who has all exodia ops but too lazy to exodia 🚬

[bitter hornet]

which good to level for event? virtuosa and ifirt for aoe?

[coarse notch]

virtuosa sounds like she'll suck

[raven ermine]

Virtuosa looks pretty bad

Ifrit is very good tho

[coarse notch]

ifrit is fine methinks but 300atkspd fia is also

[undone portal]

virt works fine in rm :realmad:
but yea, raise entel/ifrit/fia for aoe damage

[proven kelp]

She looks cute

[coarse notch]

fia cuter

[bitter hornet]

oh thought shed be good

[wild cedar]

They already have her so why not

[undone portal]

youll hit a point very soon where youre earning more mats than you know what to do with, so feel free to raise whoever you want in rm tbh

[gray mulch]

Yeah it's only a problem early

[undone portal]

this is your opportunity to try ops you dont usually use

[wild cedar]

We have a thread btw #1480479361885933792

[raven ermine]

Weedy has been very fun

[bitter hornet]

tyty

[wild cedar]

I was looking at rainchan video and I was like

[ancient lintel]

That makes me wonder, is carnelian or ho'ol in this mode good

[copper axle]

How many pulls deep we gotta go to spark summer then

[pine plover]

at least you get to use unraised operator you have
-# or not

[wild cedar]

U go try

[severe crypt]

Sounds like you want hool

[raven ermine]

When you make a huge stack with saria kafka stalling and eject 30 enemies at once, it's drugs

[ancient lintel]

Aight u sybau dawg

[pine plover]

remember, Ho'ol S3 is not AoE, each tornado only hit one target

[coarse notch]

spark what

[ancient lintel]

Oh ye her tornado is ST bruh 🥀

[raven ermine]

Why are all new players obsessed with sparking

[pine plover]

[copper axle]

Chen alter

[coarse notch]

200 and why bruh

[raven ermine]

Why 🥹

[pine plover]

blud need IS module for her skill finally becoming splash attack

[copper axle]

My acc is kinda 4 years old

[coarse notch]

even worse

[raven ermine]

Sounds like you should know what sparking is then ??

[copper axle]

Yes

[past thicket]

ive just unlocked 1-10 but still couldnt find how to use the vouchers or where can someone help

[coarse notch]

wtf is chalter gonna do for you

[severe crypt]

Look hot or smth

[wild cedar]

They feel like sparking (Wis) will let them clear all the stages I guess

[copper axle]

Answer the question, dont tell me how to play the game

[coarse notch]

mail or depot

[ancient lintel]

Be a trophy wife in the background
With her l2d art

[gray mulch]

We already did, 200

[coarse notch]

we did, immediately actually

[raven ermine]

You can look that up in pins btw, just sayin

[past thicket]

where is depot

[copper axle]

Mb it's like 4 am

[coarse notch]

bottom rightmost in the main menu ui

[copper axle]

Too daunting

[past thicket]

ohhhh its kinda shaded like grey so i didnt see that ty

[wild cedar]

Bottom right of main page

[livid lark]

I just got Mon3tr build rn or no? My healers rn are ptilo perfumer skalter, all e2

[past thicket]

i found it ty guys i should get silence and specter i assume?

[ancient lintel]

Specter or lappy iirc

[raven ermine]

If you don't have other prios, sure

[undone portal]

carnelian sounds copable, true aoe damage is valued here
ho'ol sounds terribad for the very reason she has none and youve got dozens of better elite/bosskillers

[ancient lintel]

At that point you use monmon as a pseudo guard lol

[copper axle]

Do I use 8 royal tokens on Saki?

[abstract mauve]

wdym royal tokens?

[wild cedar]

[gray mulch]

Lmao

[pine plover]

royal guard token

[livid lark]

Ye I don't really have anyone other than leizi, mlynar and lemuen 💔

[ancient current]

i mean sure ig
guess you don't have many other options

[ancient lintel]

Wait build those then lol

[wild cedar]

Idk anything about pots someone else answer

[ancient current]

purely by virtue of being a collab unit, u could forgot if saki pots do anything

[ancient lintel]

Monmon should be the last one you consider

[sand folio]

Question
I'm looking for really fast melee ops, any other stats doesn't matter, just hit count. Which ones come to mind?

[pine plover]

pot3 is like... redeployment time reduction?

[copper axle]

Is using 8 royal specialist tokens on Texas Alter over Exu Alter a wasteful move?

[raven ermine]

Sounds like you don't need monster s3 then, if those are built already, you can ditch one medic and use monster s2

[ancient lintel]

Gravel

[ancient current]

what pot is your exu

[pine plover]

beehunter and gravel

[copper axle]

Just 1 copy

[raven ermine]

p3 your exu then

[ancient current]

pot3 is a "breakpoint" for her. using them on texalt instead is a waste

[sand folio]

I've been using Gravel and Fang2 but maybe there is someone faster

[slate ridge]

Tachanka

[raven ermine]

Yalter s1

[livid lark]

They're not built tho, leizi and lemuen at e1max, mlynar collecting dust (e0lv1)

[grave pagoda]

I can't with this😂

[ancient lintel]

Build them and get their mods up

[raven ermine]

Build those first then, they're way better for you

[gray mulch]

beehunter?

[ancient current]

consider:

[raven ermine]

What's the context for hit count melee ops ?

[livid lark]

Ethan s1

[ancient lotus]

ethan is definitely not fast attacking melee op

[ancient current]

btw beehunter was one of the only operators who could light up furnaces in Harold event without needing any heating

[livid lark]

Hit count

[raven ermine]

cough cough yato

[ancient lintel]

Ethan's good for hit count but he's not an FRD lol

[wild cedar]

I think the fast here means aspd

[raven ermine]

They don't need a frd btw

[rancid crow]

Does anybody know who i should change for degenbrecher?

[sand folio]

Ooohh damn, Beehunter is a monster
Ok, cool, thanks! I'm impressed

[raven ermine]

thorns before e2 is terrible
bp is terrible

[warm verge]

surtr s1

[ancient current]

@sand folio whatever the context is u can borrow my beehunter if u want, she's m6 mod3
s2m3 improves her fast hitting so idk if e1 will cut it for your usage

[raven ermine]

Rechord propaganda claims another innocent soul

[proud zephyr]

you could do some role compression by having myrtle instead of your two vanguards

you already have strong lane holders to make up for it

[warm verge]

amiya is a weak link
hoshi and surtr should provide enough arts damage and you can swap as need

[raven ermine]

tbf
Amiya, bp, fang2, thorns are all pretty bad there

[rancid crow]

So degen e2 for thorns couse he is e1? Im planning to make him e2 with his alter. What should i do when they are both e2 later?

[gray mulch]

Yeah she attacks twice like gravel

[warm verge]

thorns alt is a niche use that's unneeded for that team

[raven ermine]

Ditch blue poison, ditch fang2, put in tequila, put in degen

[ancient lintel]

Thorns1 can just sit in the storage, so is thorns2
Thorns2 comes in handy in a very few selected situations

[raven ermine]

This is not thorns alter
This is base thorns e1

Where are you all seeing thorns 2 🥹

[ancient current]

im not joking btw. i literally do not know any other operator who can do that

[wild cedar]

We need some medicine for EN disease for everyone 💀

[rancid crow]

Im planning to get him to e2 and add him into the team

[raven ermine]

COUGH COUGH yato

[rancid crow]

Myrtle is a healer correct?

[ancient current]

oh right yato attacks even when frozen 🥹 fine

[proud zephyr]

no its a vanguard flagbearer that prints dp like hell

[gray mulch]

Vanguard but she does have healing on talent and s2

[ancient lintel]

She's a flag bearer

[warm verge]

myrtle S2

[proud zephyr]

her healing is worthless anyway

[ancient lintel]

Which also has a talent that passively heals your vanguards, albeit u gotta e2 her

[gray mulch]

Myrtle is worthless anyway

[raven ermine]

Oh i misread what you said earlier
You really don't need to, it doesn't bring much
if you really want to, you ditch fang2, bp, and amiya, for degen, thorns e2, and thornsalt

[undone portal]

saying myrtle is a healer is like saying you can juice a walnut. youll get results but theyre not gonna be good

[ancient lintel]

After u got agents ye

[proud zephyr]

gotta get somewhere with your vanguard ops

[plush lava]

With my current roster should I focus on building logos or monst3r first?

[raven ermine]

Me when fang is a 3* and enough for story

[ancient lintel]

Logos

[undone portal]

sakiko

[plush lava]

Okey dokey

[ancient lintel]

And ye build skk as well

[warm verge]

logos and sakiko
mon3tr is fantastic but wants E2

[ancient lintel]

Monmon and haruka can stay e1 for a while

[wild cedar]

Isn’t it supposed to be Monmonmon

[rancid crow]

Well i dont have her

[plush lava]

Got it 😼

[rancid crow]

Bp?

[warm verge]

blue poison

[proud zephyr]

gotta work towards recruitment ig

[gray mulch]

I'd just stick to using haruka and silence for now and focus on rasing dmg first

[rancid crow]

Is she a 5 star?

[proud zephyr]

vanguard/dp regeneration + healing 4 star for recruitment tags to guarantee her

[rancid crow]

About vanguards i will soon have access to texas is she worth using?

[wild cedar]

Now we know where the healer impression came from

[ancient lintel]

Just vg + healing or dp rec + healing should get her lol

[raven ermine]

Fang 3* is plenty

[ancient lintel]

She's a cutie but kinda bad XD

[wild cedar]

Please stop gaining access to Texas

[reef sparrow]

soon have access means in pinboard mission?

[rancid crow]

Worse than fang? Damn

[warm verge]

pioneer vanguards are in an awkward spot
due to neither having high battle impact nor good DP generation

[rancid crow]

Exactly just need 2 missions

[proud zephyr]

i dont even have texas from pin board

i literally got ines before her

anyways unrelated

[reef sparrow]

please stop asap

[ancient lintel]

Imagine in the future HG change pinboard last phase reward to proviso

[wild cedar]

wtf
my brain can’t comprehend that

[raven ermine]

Don't level your office and reception room
If you didn't, check #bot-spam /base, and read what's there

[sand folio]

Do you know about the base optimization by voluntarily leaving RR and Office at 1? Just to know if this is a conscious decision

[proud zephyr]

what was the consensus on 2-4-3 again, isnt it better for casual

[rancid crow]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I got my office maxed since im trying to get more ops through recruitment

[wild cedar]

🥀

[safe tundra]

252 is far lazier lol

[ancient lintel]

It's more micro managing and requires you to login more often me thinks

[proud zephyr]

ah

[warm verge]

long cycles iirc?
eg. 1 login a day people

[raven ermine]

No, 252 has better production and need less input
243 has maxed dorms, so you regain morale faster, and need to switch your optimal prod more often

[wispy peak]

what does enfeeble do?

[undone portal]

252 is better for everyone, even people who are lazy with rotations

[ancient lintel]

-50% atk iirc

[undone portal]

atk debuff. the number is generally written with the source

[ancient lintel]

Enfeeble is what comes with necrosis right?

[reef sparrow]

I do 252 and I rotate my base slaves every 24 hrs

[safe tundra]

no its not exclusive

[wispy peak]

was looking at suzu's module

[undone portal]

also applied by non-necrosis ops. suzuran mod, hexer mod, tinman s1, etc

[ancient lintel]

Ah I just used logos and it's mentioned in his kit so I thought it's exclusive to necrosis lol

[safe tundra]

enfeeble is just a newly coined effect. mousse and waai fu has -ATK debuff as well but not part of enfeeble

[fathom hawk]

is there a rm guide

[wild cedar]

#1480479361885933792 pins

[sand folio]

It's ok. It's just that by not upgrading RR and especially the Office you have more energy to have more lvl 3 Factories and etc
Also upgrading the Office doesn't really give much (and can't be downgraded), considering our use per intake of recruitment vouchers per month isn't enough on the long run to use all slots all the time

[proven kelp]

#1480479361885933792 message

[rancid crow]

Well right now i got like 100 and i often forget to use them so i use like 8-12 every 2 days or less

[ancient lintel]

You can burn through recruitment perms if you have a bunch of expedition thingies ready lol

[undone portal]

the nice side effect is that it means mousse/waaifu get to stack with enfeeble

[ancient lintel]

Rec
Expedite
+10 green cert

[safe tundra]

multiplicatively?

[rancid crow]

I had 40 lmao have like 5 now

[sand folio]

If you need help setting up your base I would advise putting your krooster (if you already have one) and a ss of your base with left and right on #r-i-i-c

[ancient lintel]

Which is why you shouldn't upgrade office, opening more slots doesnt give you a larger income of rec perms

[warm verge]

that reminds me, I've almost got 1k recruitment permits saved up
when that happens I'll use them all and record the results. Should be interesting.

[ancient lintel]

With 1 slot you can just burn through your rec perms

[sand folio]

It's fine, since it's a permanent decision don't worry about it too much, just optimize your base the way you can with what you have

[ancient lintel]

Should've used that power for fac

[ancient lintel]

I wish this will be a thing tho

[rancid crow]

Btw what are chances to get the 5 star and 6 star options in recruitment? Is there a way to boost them?

[ancient lintel]

No, just pray to RNGod

[warm verge]

6⭐ chance is approx 0.2%?

[sour kernel]

rm-h5 isn't open for me, do i need to clear rm-6 first or smth?

[ancient lintel]

I got it twice in like 6 months of playing

[sand folio]

That would be an amazing db if you are willing to write it down

[rancid crow]

I disvovered that today lmao i had my power full for a longgg time

[warm verge]

well, guess it's time then

[raven ermine]

We have a recruit log with over 4.5k entries
It's the work of 2 persons over a year or so

[warm verge]

there was a community pooled source with like 22k entries a while back as well

[bleak wave]

https://www.krooster.com/u/fresh-ochre-blaze-28c6 what mod/mastery should i get/level?

[rancid crow]

I guess i will do it similiar to that now. And should which thorns e2 should i focus more?

[karmic pivot]

are originium factories a good idea

[raven ermine]

leizi mod2, ray mod3, ulpi mod1, surtr mod2, if you use horn, mody1
Raise your base slaves asap

[sand folio]

Does Beehunter have an alt??

[warm verge]

you can nominally farm orundum, but at the cost of basically all of your LMD and XP production
and sanity too

[bleak wave]

who are the base slaves again? might prio them ngl

[karmic pivot]

so it basically pauses my operator growth progress

[bleak wave]

the ones i own i mean

[severe crypt]

To make 10-13 pulls a month

[sand folio]

Not normally but it's ofc reasonable if you are desperate for pulls at the end of a really good banner

[spare jetty]

well not really if u aren't building ops for ages

[elfin loom]

is there a way to grind strategic beacons?

[raven ermine]

If you're not done with basically everything in the game, don't
Do you still have originite left to clear ?

[severe crypt]

Ah yes, I def need only 3 more pulls in that last week at the cost of progress

[elfin loom]

or is it only via afk

[raven ermine]

me when i pull 2 good units but i'm in generational debt

[karmic pivot]

yeah but is it a good idea to convert those

[warm verge]

originium recyclers produce strategic beacons

[wild cedar]

You can farm it manually in stages but it’s slow

[severe crypt]

Me when I don’t pull any good units AND also in generational debt 🥹

[elfin loom]

im desperate for the outpost blueprint

[bleak wave]

also why leizi mod2? isn't it like 4% more atk?

[elfin loom]

how many do u get per stage?

[raven ermine]

It's only for skins and pulls, so yes
Each originite you get is basically 7 times more efficient than farming orundum in base
And that's being conservative, and assuming the stage cost 21 sanity

[spare jetty]

depends

[warm verge]

15 to 25 depending on stage

[elfin loom]

like if i spam recyclers can i get an uncapped amount? or do they limit it

[karmic pivot]

Understood

[raven ermine]

#bot-spam /baseskills

[elfin loom]

yikes

i need like 1200

[raven ermine]

Start with thorns guard, he's closer to e2

[wild cedar]

#1480479361885933792 message

[sand folio]

"Desperate" and "really good banner" are the key things here. Idk which ones are coming next that could be considered REALLY GOOD tho (or even in the past. Maybe Wis I guess)

[rancid crow]

Alr ty!

[elfin loom]

damn

[thorny edge]

omg mayu

[raven ermine]

But that's just not right
If you're desperate you farm op
If you don't have op left to farm, orundum in base won't save you, and you pulled bait banners

[raven ermine]

omg laq

[safe tundra]

you could do a me strategy and just win early so you dont need to worry about deficit pull

[bleak wave]

how's these presets for CC?

[safe tundra]

kroos and hibiscus are doing virtually nothing

[bleak wave]

don't they give more sanity?

[jaunty viper]

Hi i am new and i just got the kroos alter, how should i build her?

[frail thunder]

There isn’t really any way to build her you just level her up

[sand folio]

What do you mean by "how"?

[jaunty viper]

Like do i get her to E1 or E2 what level should i cap her stuff like that

[sand folio]

Like how to get the materials for e1 and e2 or?

[wild cedar]

E1 40 sl7

[jaunty viper]

Ah ty

[humble nova]

where can I check all upcoming events (banners, content releases like the matrix, and the current event we have that fucking looks like polar express vibes but hsr/endfield vibes)

[frail thunder]

#bot-spam /cnbanner /cnevents

[stone karma]

is umiri mod worth?

[humble nova]

ty

[safe tundra]

MR makes people in the CC stagger slightly longer. without any extra effects, theres nothing going on before you rotate them out

[astral bear]

ngl ur cursing only hurts yourself

[safe tundra]

its alright if you have no CC skills to further buff your entire base. its just that these type of skills do nothing

[frail thunder]

Although for the newest newest CN content you’d look at the likes of Reddit if you don’t wanna bother with Chinese sites

[safe tundra]

at least for smiles, mlynar make use of stacking these to make everything (TP, factory etc.) last longer

[south parrot]

What classes are the next limited operators? (Silverash alter, and the other one I forgot)

[frail thunder]

Vanguard and specialist
If you mean wang

[humble nova]

oh I havent touched reddit for awhile, but ty for the heads up, i'll def use it from now on

[hasty mauve]

can you get modules in rebuilding mandate?

[bleak wave]

i have paprika but i i think amiya just deletes her buff

[safe tundra]

correct they dont stack

[snow siren]

hello, is Schwarz infected?

[wild cedar]

The third pin in this thread #1480479361885933792
And scroll down to FAQ

[frail thunder]

Yes

[snow siren]

bruh

[frail thunder]

Are you really complaining for a 0.000009% of her appearing in endfield

[snow siren]

no. I just hate her because shes infected

[frail thunder]

I see I have in fact missed your name

[tiny abyss]

On Entel s2 when the blades are on a flying unit does it still hit ground

[wild cedar]

Hits both air and ground

[silver smelt]

3, delta

[pine plover]

modΔ

[silver smelt]

all 3 of his skills see use depending on the situation
but usually s3

[warm verge]

why is delta better?

[undone portal]

significantly more damage than y

[warm verge]

in what cases

[pine plover]

every

[hallow raft]

What is terrain exactly.

[hallow raft]

Nvm I notice the camo effect. I was confused as to why I didn't see any changes after placing terrain besides them

[teal latch]

OK I'd like to submit for the biggest kick in the you know what award

[hallow raft]

They a tad blue, I was expecting the gray ones.

[warm verge]

this is objectively false lol

[pine plover]

sound like you just want justification for spending 12 mod block on modY

[warm verge]

?
I have both

the elemental damage is pointless without either support or the enemy having at least 15k HP

[raven ermine]

wdym support

[pine plover]

he can do it on his own

[warm verge]

8% necrosis means that the enemy will die from arts damage before it ever procs
if their HP is less than 12500

[undone portal]

enemies having 15k hp isnt a tall ask. killing elites/bosses faster is what you install mods for anyway

[raven ermine]

Yeah, how is a 12k enemy an issue anyway

[undone portal]

mod y is just there if you really want to runs logos alongside a different element without him getting in the way

[raven ermine]

I do think the cycle mod is good
I don't know if it has been used in any meaningful way yet, but i see the potential
It won't be more damage

[warm verge]

it honestly depends on elite enemy presence

[undone portal]

^ better cycle it has, better damage it has not
theres uses for it, but delta is still better in most cases

[silver smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145312466163728425/1480719663263518832/plot.png?ex=69b0b326&is=69af61a6&hm=91a4bf3d6362d56c625d433d10698192ad16d718092a3d2f03013bb974a12374&

Y has better cycle but worse dps

[raven ermine]

Yeah it was pretty easy to expect
The main advantage is the shorter downtime

[grave pagoda]

Is RM-H5 opening in 3 day?

[tiny abyss]

Wait with Logos y his talent 1 becomes 2 projectiles right? Does SP on elite/boss hit trait count both of them

[warm verge]

yeah, he can get 3sp from 1 attack

[pine plover]

not to mention that lots of new non-elite non-boss enemies now have 10+k HP with like 30+ RES

[warm verge]

Y mod just feels a lot more consistent to me tbh
It's not really a numbers thing

[wispy ridge]

um im i missing something? these arent unlocked, do i need to clear rm-6 for them?

[pine plover]

that's the RM-H-# stages

did you not beat the previous H stage? the one that give NO production

[wispy ridge]

i did beat RM-H4

[pine plover]

might just need to wait the day to open it, it's 21 days long event

they open the next stages in part

[warm rock]

Of these, who should I be focusing on?

[gray mulch]

Logos

You have a lot of defenders lol

[warm rock]

I KEEP PULLING DEFENDERS

[royal swan]

meh his cycle is pretty fast anyway

y module gives more sp if they're elites or bosses but elites or bosses are also the ones more likely to be at the hp threshold for u to actually proc necrosis

outside of teams that rely on other elemental reactions, you'd be hard pressed to actually find a scenario where y is better enough than delta(if it is even better at all) to justify spending the 300k lmd + resources + blocks on it

[gray mulch]

Well at least you have them haha just raise your damage first

[cinder hearth]

You use ModY if you have Tragodia on your team and don't want the two to compete for the burst, given Trag nearly always wins.

Other than that, defaulting to Delta is totally fine.

[pine plover]

you can easily use both logos and tragodia without colliding with each other tbh

[gray mulch]

Nah I'd still use delta and just put them in different parts of the map

[royal swan]

also if u play IS or plan to, angelina prob has the best IS module of all the units that have them so prob something to consider down the line

[cinder hearth]

The problem I tend to find is Trag cat is too versatile given it's global range.

[pine plover]

you use the cat to proc nerve burst anyway while also keeping enemies far away with it

[silver smelt]

Me when trag has global range and you put him in the one place he shouldnt be

[pine plover]

far enough from logos range

[raven ermine]

When you're done with logos, mod2 surtr, mod1 texalt
mody1 horn if you feel like you still lack damage

[royal swan]

prob the most applicable use for y is if u wanna run logos with the global burn slop team

[silver smelt]

even then if u do cat something within logos range it's not the end of the world

[cinder hearth]

Atp you don't need Y anymore.

If enemies are getting past the burn slop you probably need to switch strats entirely anyways.

[slim tusk]

where is fib to shill mantra s2

[raven ermine]

Nope, burn slop can use vivi

[cinder hearth]

Anyways are preliminary opinions on Bellone out

[silver smelt]

y is it called slop anyway if yu lap blaze2 is like exclusively used in hard content

[frosty flame]

So im a little confused on how the banners work, does everything besides orienteering and kernel also pull from the standard 6 star pool?

[slim tusk]

uh where lol

[cinder hearth]

He looks like Shamare prime to me but maybe CN has different thoughts?

[young igloo]

How to get modules

[raven ermine]

Are you sure we saw the same kit out there ?

[young igloo]

How to get modules in new gamemode

[cinder hearth]

Level up your op to e2 and lv 40/50/60

[silver smelt]

i only ever see ppl pull it out in ccb4 and r25 but obv records phase them out

[young igloo]

I have e2 max and still no module

[pine plover]

you need to have them beforehand in your account
then raise the operator level to the module requirement

[raven ermine]

You need to own the unit and the mod

[frosty flame]

As 5050 from the rate ups?

[cinder hearth]

Then the op might not have a module released yet. Or if it's borrowed, the friend needs to own it.

[young igloo]

Alright

[royal swan]

#cn-lounge is prob the best place to ask ig

[cinder hearth]

Oops wrong reply, ignore that mayu

[raven ermine]

Check in roadless camelot in pins
There should be a tab explaining banner types
If you still have questions after, feel free to ask

[royal swan]

every banner except kernel uses the standard banner pool (kernel uses the kernel pool)

orienteering and joint operation banners just dont have an off-rate so they dont really pull stuff from outside of the rate ups

[cinder hearth]

I looked and wasn't initially impressed by his potential damage numbers. His main goal seems to be that debuff and some early laneholding in my eyes.

[safe tundra]

or you could just press this "details" then see which type of headhunting / operator pools they have

[cinder hearth]

The decaying dodge also seems iffy to me.

[shrewd peak]

I hope you people remember that you are not allowed to talk about datamines here

Last time this is mentioned

[royal swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GFGEZyCMtA video explaining the gacha system in arknights
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Headhunting/Banners u can scroll down to expand the menus and see which OPs are available in standard and kernel banners

[cinder hearth]

I think I dodged the datamines, just talking about the general effects I saw in the PV.

[frosty flame]

Ty yall

[shrewd peak]

[raven ermine]

Tbf dodge talents will always be disappointing to me
I guess they could make a good one, but it always feel like an empty line in the kit

[hidden wolf]

If ops doesn't have skill for a certain base, does it work at all or wasting?

[royal swan]

what do u mean sorry

[raven ermine]

Not sure i understand what you mean

[cinder hearth]

Simply put, he seems to have low sustained survivability and middling dps so his main usage seems to be that def debuff.

[raven ermine]

But if you don't have enough skills for each type of facility, slotting an operator without one is better than none
There is an innate bonus

[hidden wolf]

Like if I assign an op without factory skill to factory, does it still increase productivity

[wild cedar]

yes a little bit

[cinder hearth]

A small amount.

[raven ermine]

Factory workers are hard to come by early on

[cinder hearth]

There's a base-level buff that gets applies so long as a non-exhausted op is working.

[balmy panther]

base buildings with no ops don't work at all

so a mismatched op is better than no op

[rocky pilot]

What are the ops I wanna pair with tequila in trading post

[cinder hearth]

Shamare and then a Tailoring B op

[royal swan]

is the surtr bagpipe saria eyja selector available? if so for how much longer would they be available

[raven ermine]

As always, i'm waiting for a few weeks before i make up my mind about it
But i'm not impressed, i just hope some base skills would be worthwhile

[safe tundra]

slotting random bullshit still at least grant you 1.00 without bonus

[cinder hearth]

That one's been gone since months ago my man.
You're like...at least 2 months late.

[royal swan]

shamare (e2) + tequila + bibeak/paprika/diamante/kafka

[hidden wolf]

Should I build 4 dorms

[raven ermine]

lv1 dorms tho

[cinder hearth]

Okay so yeah I think you agree w/ my initial impressions, good to hear I'm not going too schizo.

[royal swan]

pretty sure it was available until a few days ago, it shouldve been available until march or sth no?

i already got it, was just curious for friends who might start

[raven ermine]

Nope, i don't know when it was removed but it's been some time already

[royal swan]

A Top Operator Activity Transfer Permit Top Operator Activity Transfer Permit and Outfit Voucher Outfit Voucher can be claimed by logging into the game for the first time until 2026/02/03.
oh feb not march

[cinder hearth]

That means feb third.

That's YYYY/MM/DD last I checked

[royal swan]

ye ye i just mixed up the numbers in my head when i first read it in jan

[formal shadow]

L Bozo

[cinder hearth]

It's an "inverted pyramid date" so it follows international format, vs what I like to call the US format of MM/DD/YYYY

[hidden wolf]

So art fighter is good for tanky targets?

[cinder hearth]

Theoretically yes, in practice normally there's better options.

[raven ermine]

No, arts is good for bypassing defense rather

[formal shadow]

the way you kill tanky targets is by doing more damage

[cinder hearth]

Arts fighters are built on the idea of a sustain + dps combo, but most meta ops can either sustain or dps better.

[hidden wolf]

Lord fighter is for bosses?

[cinder hearth]

Casters get screwed over by Snipers for rn

[safe tundra]

tankiness can be filtered by

1. high DEF low RES, use arts
2. low DEF high RES, use physical
3. high HP, whichever has the biggest total damage (physical checks the mark mostly)

[cinder hearth]

Lord fighters generally are basically a melee tile ranged dps option.

[raven ermine]

No, lords archetype at it's base is more about sustained damage

[cinder hearth]

They want someone else tanking for them.

[split ginkgo]

How does saki range extend work? Ave muji member range needs to intersect with saki’s or can the edges touching work?

[hidden wolf]

I just use sakiko to tank for me 😆

[rocky pilot]

And if no shamare?

[raven ermine]

Then no tequila

[cinder hearth]

The keyword is "overlap". Means if just edges touch, nothing happens, if I remember right.

[split ginkgo]

Thanks

[royal swan]

Tequila is not worth running at that poimt

[rocky pilot]

Alright noted

[safe tundra]

remember that only sakiko's base range count on this. if you try to extend with other member already extending sakiko's, they dont count

[royal swan]

Oh wait so it was march, why is the wiki trolling me

[rancid sage]

When do the hard stages open?

[raven ermine]

In 3 days i've been told

[rancid sage]

Thank you

[pine plover]

maybe bringing stabilizer with warning outpost wasnt the brigthest idea

[honest plinth]

where would eyj caster be on caster top rankings

[pine plover]

not

[raven ermine]

Like, she would be sitting outside in the cold

[balmy panther]

you forgot the Endmiya special

[cobalt shell]

Other than Witchcraft village, is there any other way to produce all types of class chip? trying to figure out how to maximize the chips on RM-5

[latent wraith]

Exu2, Trago, or Logos. (Already have haru and Wisadel) for the new event whos good to get?

[balmy panther]

needs at least 1 tile overlapp

[balmy panther]

the skill tree outpost unlocks passively generates all class things

there's also the rivers + sensor hub thing

[restive crown]

Is there a decent guide for the rebuilding mandate event? I don't understand a single thing, it's like learning a new language

[cobalt shell]

totally forgot about the Loaders. Thanks!

[raven ermine]

https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/1480479361885933792 check pins

[restive crown]

Thanks

[spiral sail]

Is it per hour?

[raven ermine]

look top right

[spiral sail]

Oh, so smol.
Thanks

[gray mulch]

Logos or lemuen

[pine plover]

lots of fineprint in AK UI tbh

[plain widget]

Which module should I build for ascalon?

[gray mulch]

X1

[plain widget]

Alright ty

[sly compass]

Which should I e2 first? Silverash or mountain? My only e2 6* is sakiko

[frail thunder]

If you have no other option then sash

[median pecan]

Which fiametta module is best as first pick?

[sly compass]

Do you think I'm better off waiting for sash2 banner with my mats?

[hidden wolf]

So tequilla isn't worth running alone?

[silver smelt]

i wouldnt use fia but check pins for roadless camelot

[raven ermine]

No, e2 your silverash

[raven ermine]

For base ? No

[frail thunder]

Not really that’s still quite a few weeks away

[hidden wolf]

I meant like without specific ops running with him. Not just by himself

[chrome tiger]

Without shamare teq is worse than a regular 30%

[raven ermine]

Yes, that's what i meant too

[median pecan]

Im not hurting for meta, I just like her design (esp her outfit)

[hidden wolf]

How do I get shamare

[chrome tiger]

er cope for 5 stars selector lol

[astral galleon]

Hello chatters what does mont3r do? I heard shes a dps medic or some shit but i dont understand her kit at all

[raven ermine]

Either recruitment, or you wait the 5 star selector in a year or so

[frail thunder]

She’s a good healer that buffs attack speed and have a true damage s3

[sullen shale]

Is Mon3tr S1 worth to M3?

[chrome tiger]

no dogshit skill never use

[frail thunder]

No unless you really really love afking and don’t have any other afk healer

[silver smelt]

💔 afk

[raven ermine]

Even then, no reason to mastery the skill

[frail thunder]

Yeah true the benefit is so small

[raven ermine]

It's more so that you won't afk against real threats

[hidden wolf]

What about 20?

[sullen shale]

[raven ermine]

Getting 30% shouldn't be hard, don't use tequila

[chrome tiger]

er he does nothing 85% of the time and when he actually do something he gives like 500 lmd so

85% here is an exaggeration of how often teq would proc

[raven ermine]

Without tailoring, tequila is just bad

[chrome tiger]

it’s closer to being useless 95% of the time

[hidden wolf]

I meant I have 30% but not enough for 100% up time

[silver smelt]

get more base workers then

[glass panther]

Hm who do I focus on? I'm at chapter 8 rn

[chrome tiger]

Dont you just need 9 30% or so for 100% uptime

[hidden wolf]

I have mato but her skill is locked behind E1

[silver smelt]

sakiko s3m3 mod2 if you haven't
Sash mod3

[hidden wolf]

No I meant 100% of 30% bonus for all 3

[silver smelt]

yes just e1 a bunch of base slaves go #bot-spam and type /base

[chrome tiger]

you can use 25% goobers if it comes to that

[raven ermine]

@hidden wolf

Sorry wrong reply

[chrome tiger]

you only need 9 30% ops to run perma 90% on both trading posts

[silver smelt]

my downtime team is usually gummy/midnight/mousse and then i have a lv2tp for proviso so u can do something like that

[chrome tiger]

and you can sub in other slaves too

[median pecan]

It won't open on my phone😭

[raven ermine]

Get quartz from red cert shop and e1 her too

She's 34%

[glass panther]

Oh sakiko is s3m3 mod3 lel

Aight I could go for sash mod3

[hidden wolf]

Can proviso work alone

[frail thunder]

Proviso + any 30% works

[hidden wolf]

And jaye as well

[silver smelt]

use proviso with quartz or whatever highest single efficiency increase u have

[raven ermine]

You just use the highest% you can with proviso, no combo needed

[silver smelt]

make sure to sync proviso and amiya (or another tp cc skill) together with Mlynar if you have him

[raven ermine]

Jaye need operators that give order cap

[silver smelt]

you can do something like jaye/noire/ i forgor

[raven ermine]

noir is fac

[silver smelt]

check base combo spread sheet in pins

[raven ermine]

but jaye orchid melantha would work

[silver smelt]

Ah 🥹 yeah that works

[raven ermine]

even if it's pretty bad ngl

[coarse raptor]

Other than Ines (ofc) who is the best vanguard rn?

[silver smelt]

i mean jaye team is like 90% its fine

[raven ermine]

If you collect often that is

[silver smelt]

5* agents (canta/surfer) & 6* flags (saileach)

[hidden wolf]

Is silver ash better than orchid

[raven ermine]

If he's e2 yes

[frail thunder]

There’s also sash alter

[silver smelt]

yes him too if you play on cn

[hidden wolf]

+15 and +2 order cap

[raven ermine]

that's 15% + 4% +4% at max efficiency
So worse than orchid
At e2 it's 20 +4 cap, so better

[pale tapir]

vulpipi found dead in bin with pioneers and chargers

[silver smelt]

yeah i mean u never see them used
if content is too hard for agents ppl just default to sail

maybe flagpipe once every 7 years'

[pale tapir]

yea rip mumu

[raven ermine]

Mumu is used tho
Just not everywhere

[buoyant sigil]

Does anyone in this server play kernelknights i wonder

[stray flame]

How worth it is eyjalt upgraded mod?

[frail thunder]

Not particularly

[sand folio]

When was the last time we had CC or Vector? And do we have any idea when is the next one coming?

[silver smelt]

ccb4 was like a month or abit more ago
vb1 was after exu2 banner
we have vb2 right now in cn server so expect ~6mo before we see it here

[pale tapir]

CCB4 was like two months ago?

Vec#2 coming sometime in the future I beliwve

[pine plover]

didnt ccb4 overlap with ATO

[pale tapir]

yea like jan

[unique dragon]

how does the rm exceptional appointment work i tried to appoint lemuen but i dont actually own her

[worldly sky]

s2 or s3 first to m3 for monst3r

[pale tapir]

s2
and spell her name right u heathen

[raven ermine]

m035t3r

[pine plover]

without tech tree upgrade, you can only use unowned operator via friend support if your friend have it, after you pulled the operator

[unique dragon]

oh i see thx

[gray mulch]

Does anyone know if there's a fix for chalter's "added to squad" voiceline being chinese? I uninstalled and reinstalled with only KR voicepack and it's still somehow chinese

[plush lava]

Are than any stages good for farming lmd?

[pale tapir]

yeah this stage called "build your base" and "feed your uma proviso"

[zinc crown]

does she have kr

[gray mulch]

All the other voicelines are kr it's just that one line and it bothers me

[plush lava]

I just let out the heaviest sigh known to man

[pale tapir]

the real answer is no because all lmd farm stages suck

[zinc crown]

acrtually didnt chen's kr use cn for some voicelines

[gray mulch]

No? All non-crossover ops have full kr voicelines

[plush lava]

Why does every game I play have problems with farming the main source of leveling up material 💔

[pale tapir]

wdym bruh the game literally produces it for you

all you have to do is log in and collect from base every 12 hrs

[deft crow]

you have a problem with doing nothing and waiting to get free lmd?

[fathom nest]

There's a note for it

[vernal drift]

https://krooster.com/u/silent what would be a good next step for my account or am i ok for now?

[lofty imp]

Do the teleporters work the same way as Yu's teleport where you need a valid path to the target? Im confused why these mages aren't being teleported

[lyric lagoon]

sounds like someone's impatient

[plush lava]

I’m new so it’s not done yet 😔

[pine plover]

even JP chen still says Moumantai

[plush lava]

I don’t like being time locked 😾

[fathom nest]

They sleepy

[deft crow]

even for new its good enough, thats why game gives you good base slaves for free

[lofty imp]

Teleporters should still be able to move them while eepy tho

[pine plover]

gacha game is either you being patient F2P or spend money to get thing done fast

[pale tapir]

every gacha game is time locked
it's a design choice that keeps players logging in (and spending)

[gray mulch]

Damn why she gotta be chinese

[vernal drift]

~~ damn guess thats why i keep coming back. ~~

[fathom nest]

I'm assuming they won't work if they're that close together. They're teleporters so you might need to have another further away

[deft crow]

i mean if you really need lmd that much you can do the lmd map a few times

[formal shadow]

or run IS

[raven ermine]

Raise your base slaves
E2 your surtr
Levels for ines/ulpi
Mod3 silverash and exu2
Masteries for your 6*

[vernal drift]

Even if thats a terrible idea

[deft crow]

it is but sometimes its fine

[pale tapir]

just do IS
trade irl sanity for LMD

[buoyant sigil]

Differences between recruitment and kernel pool?

[raven ermine]

Why would they ? there's no rush, lmd won't lock them out of anything

[vernal drift]

Alright thanks

[deft crow]

if they are in a rush of cause, if they are not dont do that

[lofty imp]

I've used it this way in RM-4. They're supposed to teleport to the nearest ground unit

[pine plover]

some operator are recruitment exclusive
some are headhunting exclusive

[raven ermine]

Simply not the same pools, even if there's a lot of overlap

[vernal drift]

Also question whats good about surtr?

[fathom nest]

Might be the pathing, then, like you said. Not sure tbh

[raven ermine]

Damage

[nova arch]

what stage should i farm if i have nothing to farm

[warm verge]

ignores a large amount of enemy RES

[pine plover]

1-7

[vernal drift]

Ah simple

[lyric lagoon]

if you're in a rush, this is honestly the wrong game

[fathom nest]

You have enough red certs and class chips to buy catalysts and raise ops?

[pine plover]

the cube of rock must be mined forever

[vernal drift]

😔

[nova arch]

i have like 1k rn but i haven’t gotten a lot of the stuff still

[lyric lagoon]

it's like the green goblin mask... it always whispers to you

[wary vector]

i forgot, does eyja alter S1 "aura" recovers the elemental gauge for unhealable op?

[buoyant sigil]

Interesting
If I were to do a kernelknights challenge would I be allowed tp recruit stuff or nah 🤔

[raven ermine]

Buy modblocks every month ideally, so you might need to farm red certs

[warm verge]

[fathom nest]

In her range, yes

[hasty mauve]

Do i need max production to get all battlepass rewards

[fathom nest]

No

[pine plover]

it's just make it faster

[languid swallow]

so im assuming RM is not something you can procrastinate in the last 5 hours

[lyric lagoon]

the gamemode doesn't take much anyways

[pine plover]

you just go max production then wait 48 hrs

[warm verge]

once you get some production flowing you can afk a bunch and just get E2s

[languid swallow]

for once I found it fun and got stuff setup asap

[lyric lagoon]

like even if you don't max efficiency and just beat stages, you'll prob still be able to clear bp just cause of how much it naturally gens for you

[pale tapir]

thank god because this gamemode so boring

[fathom nest]

I mean, you're wrong, but that's fine

[raven ermine]

You hate fun

[warm verge]

I thought it was pretty fun
one of the best gamemodes HG has made yet

[formal shadow]

its good because i can afk in it

[warm verge]

better than IS 🔥

[fathom nest]

Do everything once and just sit back to collect. Perfect event

[glass panther]

Just mod3 silver ash who to prio next hmmmmm

[fathom nest]

Eyja, probably

[warm verge]

why mod3

[raven ermine]

Because silverash mod3 is very good for his performance

[warm verge]

instead of eyja E2?

[raven ermine]

Yes

[pale tapir]

what's fun about it tho
it's just clearing waves of trash mobs
feels like ch13
anyway not discussion for here
both is good
eyja wants e2 for s3

[raven ermine]

Eh, i'm not even sure i would run eyja s3 over s2

[pale tapir]

why so? I find s3 to be very nice on her
s2 ain't bad at all tho

[raven ermine]

The cycle is so bad that you would rather retreat and redeploy
If you really need burst, sure, but for story progression, idk
Might be me getting used to having options tho

[warm verge]

wow retreat and redeploy
almost like silverash

[pale tapir]

hm that's fair, the cycle is ass
up to the player ig

[raven ermine]

Yeah, well silverash doesn't have another skill to use now, does he

[sinful bone]

what should i put for my support units? yato alter m6, ines m6 or sakiko m9

[gray mulch]

Eyja s3's still nice to have as an option could consider raising bandmates to fever gen sakiko ig

[warm verge]

while his S2 doesn't really have valid use cases, his S1 isn't awful
but he doesn't have the alternative that eyja does, no

[raven ermine]

I mean let's be honest, you're not running s1 over s3, please

[warm verge]

I would, 290% scale is pretty spicy

[gray mulch]

You put what you want. If you wanna put something relevant for current event ines is good

[raven ermine]

How impactful are necrass mod upgrades ?
Debating between mod1 and mod3 rn

[pine plover]

technically, you can reach max production without vanguard and also not needed to place every tiles

[lilac escarp]

other than Sakiko, whos recommended to build from ave mujica again? im semi new

[maiden thunder]

Sakiko is enough

[gray mulch]

Mod3 is a pretty nice upgrade for her

[maiden thunder]

+ASPD🤯

[pine plover]

mod3 make summon can be summoned in other summon attack range

[maiden thunder]

About necrass mod, regulars in this chat seems to only rec modding if u use her often/like her🚬

[raven ermine]

Oh i missed that, i was only taking atk% into account

[pine plover]

so she can technically summon outside of her range

[fathom nest]

If you're new and/or don't have much else to build, then Uika and Mutsumi are fine

[raven ermine]

Ofc, she's nothing great, i just have excess modblocks

[silver smelt]

ive genuinely never had a usecase for the summon outside range
i do have mod3 but like she never really changed the way i used her from mod2 so..

[raven ermine]

Idk but sounds fancy

[maiden thunder]

Outside range= her s3 doesn't hit no?

[raven ermine]

That's already the case modless with some summons placement

[silver smelt]

^ cause they will block

idk i just got it for the stat upgrades

[burnt snow]

How to unlock the adverse? There's no time indicator for it either.

[gray mulch]

Wait until next update

[burnt snow]

Oh ok ty

[ancient belfry]

is building coldshot worth it to replace Totters?

[formal shadow]

she has like 60% of the range and probably the same amount of dps for around 1.45x the cost

[pine plover]

and cant see invisible enemies

[maiden thunder]

Sub-class so ahh the next op in it ignores most of the archetype 🤯