help

[urban sleet]

I farmed 9's mat a limbillion years ago and it's sitting at 120ish
I did the same for gel but it's under 50
Have this personal statistic from me and farm gel

[wanton meadow]

Ngl idt i can stock up since i still need like 60+ for just my own current roster

[gray mulch]

Same I've been sitting at 100+ solvent for god knows how long. It just isn't used much and if in a pinch you can prob buy all you need with green cert

[fierce needle]

E1

[wanton meadow]

I'm farming 8 but with my current needs I'll probably be ending the event with barely any gel stocked

[urban sleet]

If you have gel needs currently you should be farming gel anyways

[gray mulch]

You're in for a 5 month drought

[native cargo]

I almost lost my acc😭

[wanton meadow]

Any gel I'm farming rn will be used instantly

[lyric lagoon]

next one is wang event

[eager totem]

are CA stages worth farming or just wait for events

[wanton meadow]

Painge

[urban sleet]

What does CA give

[slate ridge]

book

[green anvil]

hey guys which kroos alt skill is better? s1 or s2?

[urban sleet]

Farm if you need ig

[abstract mauve]

s2

[gray mulch]

Only after you got all books from ra/is

[wanton meadow]

379 rocks needed is vile

[abstract mauve]

379 doesnt seem like all that much

[gray mulch]

It's always back to the mines

[urban sleet]

Waifu is temporary 1-7 is permanent

[eager hull]

what do i use Vina for
i accidentally got her

[wanton meadow]

Not when your account hasn't even had its first downtime period

[cursive maple]

true damage

[wanton meadow]

Legit I can't even farm the rocks cos it's back to back events

And i need the event mats cos this account is broke af

[abstract mauve]

do you need all of them t2 rocks or is t3 fine. there's t3 rocks in this event iirc

[gray mulch]

Accidentally pulled on her banner

[split sphinx]

Wait event end to farm rocks

[ancient lintel]

Ye I wanna do side stories for but I cant cause too many events is happening lol

I'm low on both gel and the pink thingy too

[wanton meadow]

Mostly t3 but i heard it's still less efficient than 1-7, so I'll just sit and farm my gels for now

[eager hull]

what are rocks for
why do ppl farm rocks

[reef sparrow]

why not farm rocks in the current event

[urban sleet]

Yes 7 id t3 rocks

[ancient lintel]

Cause everyone wants rocks

[gray mulch]

You shouldn't be farming 7 unless you have 200 gel or smth

[eager hull]

when to use that?

[ancient lintel]

All roads lead to 🇧🇷 - 🇩🇪

[native cargo]

Is catherine good

[ancient lintel]

Nah

[urban sleet]

Actually we have shileds here let him answer

[eager hull]

what for...?
im still newbie so idk really what resources are good and what to farm for

[ancient lintel]

To like upgrade their skills n stuff? Everyone want rocks

[gray mulch]

Just the most used mat

[abstract mauve]

it's more efficient than 1-7 according to peteryr. this is using event points on infinite lmd. other stages are technicially better to farm but if you need that much rock it might be a consideration

[wanton meadow]

Tldr almost every character uses rocks in some way, even just building a few characters as i showed with my planner requires like 500 rocks

[shadow bay]

later in the game... if u build ur roster slowly, u would see every,if not most, operators need rocks to raise them

it varies from just alright to wtf why this much???

[eager hull]

oh so its like, very commonly needed for most operators to level them up and stuff
i see

[runic willow]

Actually when you farm reruns do you clear everything again or only normal stages + the stages that give furniture?

[shadow bay]

i only do the furniture and welfare yeh

[abstract mauve]

i clear everything

[gray mulch]

Ok good I thought I was going crazy arguing event is better earlier

[split sphinx]

Also module blocks

[runic willow]

So you don't try to get the one time currency from ex stages?

[wary vector]

if someone rerolled and started with saileach elysium and myrtle without agents
which one u guys tell them to level?

[abstract mauve]

i would've been farming rock anyway since at worst this is farming 1-7 but i get event points :ya:

[split sphinx]

Leaning sail between her and ely cause 6star glow

[ancient lintel]

Ely I guess?

[cursive maple]

true damage ignores def/res and dr

[shadow bay]

basically yeh....

i want to hoard farmable t3 mats rather than to roll the stages all over again (it may be just 1 digit difference to t3 mats but yehhh)

[eager totem]

is surfer s1

[abstract mauve]

surfer runs s1 ye

[eager hull]

where this image from

[eager totem]

sl1? i dont rlly want to kill the opponents right

[abstract mauve]

peteryr event math from latest video

[ancient lintel]

When enemies has like unbelievably high DEF and RES, or like 100% dodge or somethin

[wary vector]

surfer is just your 2nd cantabile

[crimson sequoia]

uika s1 or s2?

[wanton meadow]

I'll clear what i need from 8 and 9 first then before i decide, I also need like 50 gel and 25 solvent

[split sphinx]

In mini event, there's no need to do the pure currency missions overflow currency goes into unlimited mats which is negative value atp

[shadow bay]

i would max it...

that problem is so 2022 smh

[wary vector]

i find her s2 have better uses than s1

[shadow bay]

to note, surfer s1 skill upgrades raises the skill duration and atk% buff

duration... that translates to more dp generated

[eager totem]

m3?
im thinking about using the training apparatus on her

[shadow bay]

the consensus is s1m3 generally to surfer yeh

[eager totem]

do i want mod2 as well

[wary vector]

you can even go mod-less
agent mods are quite the dogshit tier

[dusk hill]

What's the best 5* to e2 besides base slaves, and tequila since I don't like him that much

[abstract mauve]

i do rememeber mod being recommended but i dont remember the exact reason

[split sphinx]

Better upgrade 6stars

[eager totem]

why do i sound so dp hungry

[boreal shuttle]

Ines s3 best right?

[shadow bay]

iirc surfer mod recommended coz it actually help further her dp gen

[wary vector]

oh true, -10s for +2 dp

[eager totem]

ines already invested
im not getting her mod any time sooner
saileach can stay e1

[boreal shuttle]

No??? What's her best then wth?

[wary vector]

she mostly use s2

[abstract mauve]

s2

[shadow bay]

its aspd buff for 10s

[split sphinx]

Not talking vanguard specifically. Go do mastery/mod on dps

[wary vector]

ines s3 is very map dependent knowledge

[boreal shuttle]

How...? S3 seems to be doing so much..

[eager totem]

but im not lacking dps though

[hot citrus]

is siege alter good at all?

[abstract mauve]

s3 is great as well ye. she just mostly runs s2

[gray mulch]

S2 has better range and aspd steal

[split sphinx]

You're not lacking dp either

[wary vector]

mid
she can do true dmg if you need it for certain bosses but that's it

[eager totem]

hmm probably but chapter 12 was so much butt pain i dont want to experience such dp shortage ever again

[boreal shuttle]

Aight. Do I need her module?

[wary vector]

and great skill cycle as well

[oblique cypress]

what the kisaki fan

[abstract mauve]

mfw BA fans in the wild

[wary vector]

huhh

[oblique cypress]

me me

[wary vector]

^

[oblique cypress]

s3 ines is just not it for most scenarios (and players)

[wary vector]

my only use of ines s3 is if i just need her 3 tile slow/reveal and not use her
10 dp saved

[primal zealot]

mod level and masteries for miksaparato?

[abstract mauve]

s3m3 mod1

[wary vector]

who tf is that

[frail lynx]

is it G0-7 G0-8 for mats in this event?

[abstract mauve]

sankta miksaparato. exu2 event welfare

[tiny abyss]

Exu2 event welfare

[oblique cypress]

the unit that saved w*lfare players

[primal zealot]

fia grandpa

[wary vector]

ohh, i never memorized his last name

[abstract mauve]

7 8 9 stages all good

[dusty summit]

Does ave mujica characters have base skills?

[abstract mauve]

latin for mix aparatus. blender in other words
hard to forget it

[dusty summit]

Dang

[green anvil]

Hey guys is my squad alr?

[dusty summit]

Alright thanks!

[abstract mauve]

fire squad

[wary vector]

for what you have levelled looks fine ish

[tiny abyss]

-# omg e2 humus

[green anvil]

i just watch some random guides lmao

[abstract mauve]

just replace the ops once you get better ones

[oblique cypress]

i squint and i dont see the level 80 ticket used

[green anvil]

wait which one is good? i will try to get them

[wary vector]

oh yeah, i heard hoolheyak gets an IS mod on CN? is it good?

[abstract mauve]

did you use all the vouchers given to you? also do you have any 6* units not included here?

[nimble kite]

PLAYING.
OVER.
LEAKS TO BLUEBOX, bro.

[abstract mauve]

worse angelina mod. it has funky mechanics with leaking in is6 bosky iirc. but otherwise not worth it

[green anvil]

i do have silver ash and i'm only like day 5 into the game lmao

[hard quest]

🥹

[wary vector]

wait wtf

ah i see

[green anvil]

i mean i also have surtr but i dunno should i use her

[wary vector]

does it work for enemy that doesnt eat life point?
like those suicide saucer that blasts entire screen in is5

[wanton meadow]

Tactical leak gaming

[nimble kite]

Ho'olheyak (IS)

+130 HP, +80 ATK
Trait Upgrade: In Integrated Strategies, attacks ignore 10 RES, when each enemy enters a Protection Objective tile (Bluebox) for the first time, recovers 30% SP
Talent Upgrade: When attacking aerial targets, increases ATK to 148% (+3%) and silences targets for 5 seconds; In Integrated Strategies, the first deployment grants 1 Temporary Life Point; Levitate all enemies on the field for 15 seconds when an enemy enters a Protection Objective tile for the first time (Can be triggered once per deployment); This unit's skills Levitate and damage the main target and surrounding enemies simultaneously

[rocky pilot]

Arts damage guard, with immortality

[abstract mauve]

oh shii. only things to replace would be adding ptilo when you get her from voucher and silverash when you are more easily able to e2 them

[wary vector]

how about gnosis's? is mod*

[gray mulch]

Does it work with pramalt frozen blue box tho

[green anvil]

wait she is a helaer right?

[rocky pilot]

Yes

[green anvil]

aoe?

[abstract mauve]

definitely consider adding her to the team. her s3 is her main skill so she will need e2 but her s2 is still decent till you get there

[nimble kite]

Oh, Gnosis is slightly better.
All Kjerag Ops, plus Karlan Trade, will inflict Cold when procc skills.
So if you buff ASPD, and give Autoburst S1, they will permafreeze enemies. Like SilverAsh or Degen.

[green anvil]

olala wait then about my caster and vanguard steward and fang is fine right?

[gray mulch]

Multitarget (you can't get them from aoe tag in recruit jsyk)

[wary vector]

isnt that too comp specific?
or even without kjerag squad still fine?

[nimble kite]

Yeah, kinda. So not much good either. But at least better than Hool, that for sure.

[green anvil]

who should i replace when i got her e2 then?

[dusk hill]

S1 or s2 for surfer?

[rocky pilot]

Fang will be your dp printer for now but replace her when you got a better vanguard

[abstract mauve]

steward can be replaced by surtr. fang can be replaced when you get myrtle or even better surfer/cantabile

[wary vector]

ok fair, cus i still dont have that caster from... is4?

[abstract mauve]

steward or lava

[nimble kite]

Santalla. So washed op...

[gray mulch]

I'd just replace lava with her now

[green anvil]

wait i remember there is a 4star dp printer uhh his name begins with a C is he good?

[rocky pilot]

@green anvil Actually I recommend you to look out for your tags as well, basically before doing recruitment search for a recruitment calculator and see what are the choices you may get or available

[rocky pilot]

Oh courier

[abstract mauve]

silverash + gnosis + archetto allows you to freeze everything within silverash's range. that's kinda cool ig. with enough aspd, you dont need archetto but ye

[gray mulch]

Courier is better than fang sure

[dusty summit]

Does the ave mujica event furnitures have a set sold in the shop? I might have missed it…

[green anvil]

ah alr i keep that in mind

[wary vector]

wait why archetto

[abstract mauve]

her IS mod and silverash s1 is offensive recovery

[rocky pilot]

And he’s pretty easy to get max pot as long you get your credits

[green anvil]

i mean i did have him leveled up plenty so maybe i should use him?

[shadow bay]

yes

[dusk hill]

Who do I pick

[gray mulch]

If you have him sl7 then use him

[wary vector]

ah we are talking about SA S1 okok
my brain autoread it as silverashter

[dusty summit]

Whats it called?

[abstract mauve]

ye that's a fair thing
it's the OG silverash. silverash2 also is decent with gnosis iirc

[pearl zinc]

Eyja good enough if don't have decent caster

[shadow bay]

i forgot...

although i do checked the store earlier, and aeems like they already pulls it out on shop... so yeh....rip

[slate ridge]

it should leave a week after Ave no ?

[wary vector]

and i think swire alter's is mod is just.. mid?
i probably only recruit her when im ingot rich and even then atp picking any unit doesnt really differ?

[dusty summit]

Oh well

[oblique cypress]

its more like specialist ticket is too competitive, especially on is6 where you dont get a lot of vouchers, theres no reason to pick her over exu2

[wary vector]

fair
exu2, fast redeploys, probably mizuki/ascalon as well over swire?

[oblique cypress]

yeah, shes not a prio pick, basically you'd mainly only see her in IS tourneys where bans are in place

[crimson sequoia]

Does PRTS not give trust?

[vale shale]

Do you guys think using the e2 ticket on gravel is worth it. I don't have Ethan

[wary vector]

huh?
ethan is in red shop for cheap af

[gray mulch]

Ethan is in red shop

[vale shale]

Ahhhh

[shadow bay]

if u use her a lot, might be good investment

u actually e2 gravel coz of her module that refund more dp upon retreat

[gray mulch]

Not high prio for newbie

[shadow bay]

but then again its not on a priority... its mostly considered in... IS or something

[wary vector]

me e2 max s2m3 mod3 her just for memes; actually damn tanky btw

[gray mulch]

Ethan e2 is better to help newbie farm IS6

[wary vector]

oh yeah i never checked it out
so gravel attacks hits twice compared to other fast redeploys
does it do full atk twice, or half atk twice?

[shadow bay]

its 4 star anyway so whatever....

its mostly ethan yeh sure, coz among the 4 stars his name keep floating for his utility

[pine plover]

it deals final damage split in 2

[wary vector]

so 50-50 hit ok

[pine plover]

so after calculation, the total is same as one hitter

[wary vector]

ok so it's shittier against high def, but great for hit based

[pine plover]

after calculation, not before

[abstract mauve]

it's good for hitcount since it counts as 2 hits
no real negative to it

[wary vector]

wait... OH. ok now i get it
that's cool but also wtf lol

[abstract mauve]

it's to spice up like a couple operators. genuinely not sure why they did it

[wary vector]

yet idt any non-debut operators have this *unlisted feature

[pine plover]

tbh, coming from RPG maker script programming, it's not something unsual

[pine plover]

beehunter

[abstract mauve]

wasnt this before they had branches n shi

[pine plover]

gravel is always like this since release

[wary vector]

oh? exact same as gravel or what

[abstract mauve]

ye

[wary vector]

does that mean her talent full stack at 3rd attack?
nvm it says attack not hit

[pine plover]

basically, calculate all formula on the beginning
then execute the fancy doodle dang visual at the end
similar stuff is implemented for weakness damage in ch'en3 talent

[ebon plaza]

how much better is 2-5-2 over 2-4-3? judging by the fact that all dorms are level 1 does that not mean it requires a lot more units?

[pine plover]

more production is more production

you will get lots of unit whether you want them or not

[robust thistle]

the rotation is the same, if not easier

[wanton meadow]

No, high level dorms mean units heal up faster so you're encouraged to do faster shift changes, like optimal 243 runs on a 6 hour shift change

[keen hedge]

Anyone has an E2 Weedy here? I can get her from recruitment but I wanna try her first 🤔

[ebon plaza]

the rotation is better? interesting. in that case for now i'll meet level 5 control center requirements and then downgrade accordingly

[wanton meadow]

Yea 252 has significantly more comfortable rotations and outputs more than 243

[wary vector]

is that 6 hour cus of dorm morale recov speed, or 6 hour cus your factory/TP capped?

[shadow bay]

she is just a premium pusher... thats that

although if u need pushing , she is the best unit u can use....

[keen hedge]

Is she a Hookmaster?

[signal dragon]

do you have maxed right side?

[wary vector]

pusher

[shadow bay]

yep got it reversed... no one see that

[shadow bay]

thats on me... edited it already

[keen hedge]

So like shaw and feater

[tiny abyss]

Angle the cannon at her fr

[signal dragon]

her S3 is good, niche but good

[hoary ocean]

Which module is best for Goldenglow?

[wanton meadow]

Basically the benefit to 243 is high level dorms, which means you can make your high output team have higher uptime (6hr recovery instead of 12), but even then it doesn't outweigh the benefit of having an extra production facility and there are already ways in 252 to make your trading post have infinite uptime

[keen hedge]

It's either Weedy or a Phantom imprint

[gilded cloak]

on steroids, I think

[robust thistle]

so how does wang s2 work again

[wary vector]

i remember some ppl wild enough to clear high difficulty IS with weedy start (basically shift squad) so there's that

[gilded cloak]

She can give you a deployable cannon summon that is also able to push

[robust thistle]

weedy is actually valid draft in IS3 for ending 4

[signal dragon]

well phantom IS mod works if you don't have other specialist to use ig

[split sphinx]

weedy start?

[robust thistle]

draft, not start

[shadow bay]

[wary vector]

can you even undo 243 into 252?

[wanton meadow]

Yes there are 252 max right side variants and they're still better than 243

[shadow bay]

just gonna take some work, but yeh

[wary vector]

ok welp after 6 years i learnt smth new

[signal dragon]

max right side can run 2 level 3 factories as long as you have proviso so you can downgrade a tp to level 2

[wanton meadow]

It's not work, you just implode 1 powerplant and downgrade 4 factories, then make 1 level 2 factory

You can literally do it with less than 1 day worth of drones

[shadow bay]

seems like a work to me idk... i don't love labor my friend

[gray mulch]

So many vets run 243 because they're too lazy to redo base

[severe crypt]

Nommon known afk slopper

[wary vector]

i run 153 cus i ran out of gold bars

[hoary ocean]

Which module should I get for Golden Glow? I'm finding myself using her a lot and I'm thinking for maxing her out.

[young glacier]

Weedy + Eunectes FTW (Yes too lazy)

[signal dragon]

how

actually tbf I had to stop droning tp otherwise I'd run out too

[wary vector]

im occupied whole day so i can only check in like once a day to reset my base cycle ||also lazy ||

[young glacier]

3 exp factories and droning proviso 🔮

[shadow bay]

what a shame ard was gone... he gonna flap his wings hearing all this 243 bs

[gray mulch]

Do you not own mlynar?

[lyric lagoon]

seems like someone couldn’t keep up with proviso

[gray mulch]

With mlynar you can do like 36 hour shift

[signal dragon]

mylnar is not gonna save from facilities capping

[robust thistle]

idk why do you reduce your TP instead of making more gold factory if youre running out of gold

[coarse tide]

Hi gays

[wary vector]

mlynar doesnt fix anything
im capped from factory/TP full, not from morale issue

[wary vector]

last time i spent a month overstacking gold bars until 2k or smth and let it rot on 243 setup slowly over a year

[frail lynx]

do collab skins come back?

[wary vector]

pray.
basically, expect it to be a no

[signal dragon]

only if the collab reruns

[frail lynx]

my chongyue dreams...

[coarse tide]

Is sanrio eyja l2d?

[signal dragon]

that's excessive

[ember condor]

when upgrading to e2, which level from 1 to 80 have the most noticable difference when it comes to stats?

[coarse tide]

Also its eyja2 right?

[wary vector]

eyja 1 actually

[tender shell]

will sakiko's skin returnwill sakiko skin return?

[lyric lagoon]

stat increases from levels are linear

[robust thistle]

if its collab, dont expect reruns

[tender shell]

i love fomo

[oblique cypress]

me too

[ember condor]

hmm, okay, what about lmd costs? surely it isn't linear?

[robust thistle]

we had 6 months to prepare for the fomo, so its not really fomo

[wary vector]

it's time to submit thy credit card to hypergrief

[lyric lagoon]

it’s not, hence why we recommend stopping at 60 at most if you want modules

[ember condor]

so the basic general line of e2 level is 60 then? alrighty

[signal dragon]

e2 30-40 is fine until you're ready to mod imo

[ember condor]

how high is the spike after that anyways? i got like eyja on e2 80 and i kinda shut my eyes when upgrading her so idk

[ember condor]

oooh okay, this level 40 is where my units are atm

[gray mulch]

Cost goes up exponentially

[oblique cypress]

something something 700kish for e0 to e2 60
60 to 90 is like 500k ish

6 7 anyways

[lyric lagoon]

the only real exception to this is like tragodia for break points at level 82 mod3 or level 88 mod2

[ember condor]

wow

alrighty, thanks guys

[lyric lagoon]

for 4*s and 5*s, you generally won’t need to e2 but if you want a mod for 4*s or 5*s for some reason, stop at 40 for 4*s and for 5*s its 50

[shadow bay]

krooster have lmd and exp calculator if u wanna dive further

[pine plover]

even planner that sync with your krooster data

that also update everytime you update import

[golden knoll]

Bobbing S1 or S2

[lyric lagoon]

is not using bobbing an option

[golden knoll]

Dont rose me im using him for fun

[oblique cypress]

🥀

[rocky pilot]

🕊️

[sleek finch]

afaik
bobbing run s2 for aoe burn

but no one also use him to verify this

[wanton meadow]

Ok hear me out, you don't need to rotate every 12 hours with 252, cos lv2 facilities last 24hrs and. Lv3 facilities for 36

[sleek finch]

uh
level 3 factory doesnt last for 36h

[wanton meadow]

Yes it does

[sleek finch]

you do need to rotate every 12h because they reach production cap lol

[signal dragon]

issue is they can't login often enough to claim factories and tp. not morale related

[wanton meadow]

Ok now that's an interesting issue

[young glacier]

Stop running +0% combo (Or Vulcan combo) in your factory

[sleek finch]

oh hidden specifically stated capacity limit, not morale too

[celest granite]

wich one i should pull between mantra banner & SA alt banner

[sleek finch]

afaik
no one care about mantra banner lol

[proven kelp]

Check pins for Banner Priority

[wanton meadow]

I don't get it, a 3 man team with no md modification lasts over 36 hours in tp or fac while a full lv2 facility lasts approximately 32 hrs

[celest granite]

This one?

[inland cosmos]

how many yellow certification to purchase full headhunting roll things

[signal dragon]

258

[royal swan]

Note: A fully staffed lvl 3/2/1 Trading Post has innate -0.1/-0.05/0 MD, in addition to +3/2/1% productivity.

same applies for factory as well yes

[inland cosmos]

that many ? alr

[sleek finch]

pretty sure the issue mentioned here is having to check to claim, rather than worker exhaustion

[royal swan]

258 for 38 pulls yes

[wanton meadow]

I know that, i just don't get what's with the vulcan team comment

[proven kelp]

On the pins, scroll down until you found "Useful Links", on the first link click it to get to a google sheet
Then just look for it

[wanton meadow]

Like I'm legit confused rn

[sleek finch]

vulcan team has high + capacity that let you not playing the game longer

[oblique cypress]

chisha can you start arguing so i have content while i eat

[royal swan]

vulcan team has -0.25 as well

[young glacier]

Exp card fits 10 (50/54) in lvl 3 factory and takes like 3 hours without any %. my exp factory caps in 30 hours without production buffs, and I am running +90% no cap increase

[wanton meadow]

Yea but 36 hr is default just by having 3 person in the facility so i don't understand why he said I'm using a vulcan team

A team with extra -0.25md would last just over 48 hr

[sleek finch]

idk whats classified as hot or cold take atp
like idk, sakiko is highkey forgetable af? and force synergy for ave mujica seem like worse AH/sui?

[ancient belfry]

There's a downgrade button in base, does that mean I wouldn't need to worry upgrading the wrong facilities?

[oblique cypress]

keep going 🍿

[sleek finch]

you cant downgrade right side

[young glacier]

I don't argue that team with - morale will reduce how often you need to rotate them, but factory will hit cap so you have to manage it anyway

[ancient belfry]

damnn, thankfully im not there yet

i should just leave it be before I know what im doing and just progress the story mode

[desert mulch]

So that means if im upgraded right side i cant use base guide in #bot-spam ?

[signal dragon]

you can

[desert mulch]

But it said smth like office lv1 and else

[signal dragon]

max right side 252 just has less level 3 factories

[sleek finch]

yeah synergy is highkey overrated af
since you are forced to used an extra 2-3 slots to make them work which means

and people still complain about meta that force them to use the same meta ops all the time

[oblique cypress]

why play for synergy when i can just bring more dps

[slim tusk]

b-but muh 2m dmg

[sleek finch]

not just dps, you can also just pair tragodia stall, with other stall

rather than bothering with thorns nervous synergy for example

and no idea how mantra add up to this equation, but my guts tell me its also shit

[wanton meadow]

Generally a standard nocap team should take about 17hr to fill the basic 10 cap iirc

Like around 16-17 hours

[oblique cypress]

i mean its like bounce rng with mantra right, but its like not realistic at all in practice

[wanton meadow]

So if you want the fac to cap at just over 24hr you want approximately +5 cap

Or +4 if the factory team is on the slower side like at the 75%s

[sleek finch]

i do like the combo of wisadel + logos back then where you can cycle their skill to kill 90% of enemies, or use both together to kill the remaining 10%

this "synergy" work because they are strong independently

unlike certain ops thats just unusable if you dont also use another ops

[winter crystal]

The “synergy” worked bc one did arts and the other did physical damage, so you covered all your bases (I joke)

[sleek finch]

the synergy work because one deal dmg, the other also deal dmg

[tranquil bronze]

is this like decent for 5 chapter and 2 (planning to get e2 or just e1 max lvl for most of the 5 stars)

[sleek finch]

this is also why exu buff and surtr hospital doesnt work

you bring 5 ops for 1 ops worth of dmg

[young glacier]

"Synergy" work because the enemy died first

[runic willow]

To me I feel the Ave mujica synergy is in a good spot, somewhat useful (unlike meshi synergy) but not neccessary so they are weak without each other.

[slim tusk]

the synergy is just goober buffing an st dps

[winter crystal]

Kill liskarm and blue poison they are Garbo

[sleek finch]

e2 courier and texas are quite suboptimal

[winter crystal]

Yeah but they already E2 🥀 it is what it is.

[ancient belfry]

What else can brick an account? like upgrading office

[sleek finch]

better remind them of their bad decision so that they wont make the same mistake again

[winter crystal]

Picking Projekt red from a selector ticket (I joke)

[fiery canopy]

it was never about buffing . . . . .

[forest quest]

when is the next kernel locating? with Angelina

[wanton meadow]

Would agree but the bands are on a 5* standard so they actually need to be stronger individually to be worth the mats if you're not specifically trying to play the synergy

[ancient belfry]

im never touching my vouchers till I know when to open it lol

[winter crystal]

@ancient belfry pulling on kernel will brick your account

[ancient belfry]

whatttt i did pull using the free 10 tickets

[hexed laurel]

Are we allowed to talk about wang here, is he good?

[young glacier]

Depends on your definition of brick. E2 1 Frostleaf is brick compared to E1 Max. Everything else is just... If you spend materials on something suboptimal you will just get more material for optimal stuff later

[winter crystal]

Using free tickets is fine

[signal dragon]

locating is every 3 months roughly, no one knows when it'll have Angelina

[glossy schooner]

He’s Wisadel levels

[ancient belfry]

phewww thanks

[forest quest]

I can exchange yellow certs for her lol

[winter crystal]

Ok…..but don’t

[glossy schooner]

At least, from what I remember hearing

[wanton meadow]

Like actually cause permanent account damage?Idk, rage pulling so you fail to save for a limited banner?

[signal dragon]

her IS mod good though

[forest quest]

She’s good with Irene (in 6 months time) so I don’t mind it

[winter crystal]

Lots of IS mods are good

[ancient belfry]

im happy i dont have a clue what operators are a must pull,

it feels weird not leveling the 6*
in enfield I usually max them first

[winter crystal]

Your Reed alt 6 star is good, your thornsalt is a bum

[graceful trail]

Just started I pulled beginner banner do I save or are current banners worth summoning

[wanton meadow]

Decent factory slave

[winter crystal]

Uhhh depends are you brand new?

[ancient belfry]

so it's safe to level reed and ignore thor

[finite isle]

New player here, got exusiai on discounted banner, is she good?

[slim tusk]

thornsalt sounds liek a good aoe for new acc

[forest quest]

only way for it to get bricked is if I receive an off-rate Wisadel

[graceful trail]

Yes brand new

[winter crystal]

Base exusia is like the worst op out of all the possible options, just bench her it’s fine all the option are outdated anyways

[ancient belfry]

shamare good to level?

[winter crystal]

E2 for base, she pairs up with E2 tequila for lmd production

[sleek finch]

reroll angle if you get exu from starter banner

[finite isle]

Was there a better way that I could've spent a 10 pull?

[winter crystal]

No

[wanton meadow]

She's functional, but with how strong units are nowadays you'd be ok with just keeping her at e1 40 in case you need extra snipers for certain maps

[winter crystal]

No kroosalt is cheaper and does the same damage with less investment

[wanton meadow]

EXTRA snipers

[graceful trail]

So are the current banners new player friendly? Or should I wait

[sleek finch]

kroos + krooster is more than enough lol

[winter crystal]

I would look up the reroll guide but you aren’t rerolling for vine you’re rerolling for an off rate better standard op

[sleek finch]

kroos + krooster can last you until marksman already fall off

[ancient belfry]

E2 means leveling right to a certain degree not finding dup?

side question, does that appear 1080p or is it a bit blurry?

[sleek finch]

e2 means elite 2, promoting twice

[winter crystal]

Then use regular kroos, it’s still a no

[wanton meadow]

I think even CA5 needs minimum 3 snipers if you're running low rarity

The book farm

[sleek finch]

ranger + kroos + kroos alt
simple

[finite isle]

Where is the guide

[winter crystal]

Do not E2 your Shamare first, reedalt first then Shamare bc reedalt will actually let you finish stages while Shamare is used for base lmd production

[sleek finch]

but in reality you dont need 3 marksman

[wanton meadow]

Ah yea i forgor ranger exists

[runic willow]

What about the third breakfast sniper?

[ancient belfry]

thanksss

[winter crystal]

In pins in this channel. Basically you reroll and use the 8 starting pulls to pull on vina, if you get a 6 star great tell us and if it’s good you play with that account if it’s not then you keep rerolling etc

You do not want vina you want someone stronger then vina

[slim tusk]

use the best sniper raidian s3

[sleek finch]

tbh
vina is still doodoo, you rather go typhon who can carry your anni progression even at e1

[wanton meadow]

My favourite low ground sniper arene

[runic willow]

4 snipers in a coat

[winter crystal]

Typhoon is mid slop she’s horrendous

[sleek finch]

and guess what
vina is worse lol

[rugged shell]

why do people say not to spark wisadel in the SA alter banner, at what point its wroth to spark her? its wisadel isnt it

[wanton meadow]

Hey no slop slander, slop is atleast fun

[winter crystal]

Yes don’t pull for any and if you get either keep rerolling you can pull offrates

[winter crystal]

It’s not fun when you tickle the enemy

[runic willow]

The idea is that for the cost of a spark, you could on avg get like 6 ops including new limiteds

[thorny edge]

she can actually hit them twice before tickling them now (it barely makes the skill better than lemuen s1)

[runic willow]

You can kinda borrow wis if you need her so badly anyways

[winter crystal]

Don’t question mark me, you pull on vina aiming for an off rate there is a whole pool of standard ops you could get that are better then vina and typhoon together @sleek finch

[wanton meadow]

Hence why typhon is not slop, cos she's not fun

[dull estuary]

Is Victor worth it

[winter crystal]

I call her slop bc the only skill anyone thinks about is her afk skill 🥀

[wanton meadow]

She's worse than slop, not just mid but also aggressively not fun

[sleek finch]

and it also take way longer for newbie to reroll

[thorny edge]

thats her only non shit skill

[sleek finch]

because her non-afk suck worse lol

[winter crystal]

That’s a really low bar

[runic willow]

Think ppl argue it's worth if you actually went to 200-250 pulls getting the rate up?
But if you get there you're unlucky

[formal shadow]

wtf am I reading

[thorny edge]

it at least does something. s3 takes 60s to deal 100k ish, to random targets in her range

[formal shadow]

Are we talking about who to reroll for?

[sleek finch]

the "advice" is to reroll for off rate

[winter crystal]

I’m saying reroll on vina for off rate and someone brought up pulling for typhoon 🥀

[thorny edge]

what

[wanton meadow]

Oh it's worth to spark, the problem is can you foot the bill

[winter crystal]

Which again is objectively correct advice with current banners

[formal shadow]

I'll be honest, I'd rather roll for onrate typhon than cope for the chance of an offrate that's good

[wanton meadow]

If you're a whale then go ahead

[sleek finch]

🙂 have you ever tried

[winter crystal]

It literally just needs to be any off rate that’s better then vina im not telling them to roll for logos

[slim tusk]

dejavu much

[dull estuary]

How easy is it to farm intelligence tickets

[runic willow]

Is that not the Def. of worth? Gain / cost

[winter crystal]

We literally did this earlier today and the guy started with ascalon luckily enough

[sleek finch]

eh realistically typhon is still a very solid pick for newbie since strong coverage at e1
altho i havent checked if her 2nd mod need newbie to clear some high stages

[severe crypt]

You kinda can’t if you mean purple certs

[rugged shell]

i was just thinking theres alot of good stuff to pull in that banner, so while sparking i can get the other good stuff then finally get the final good stuff with spark

[dull estuary]

How would you get them

[wanton meadow]

Exactly, it's good gain/cost, it's just a matter of being able to pay the cost

[runic willow]

If you did the event a year ago when it first ran it's easy

[dull estuary]

I did not

[thorny edge]

if ur new ur not seeing a purple cert for eons

[severe crypt]

Get all the furniture from event stages/missions, wait a year, get the furnitures again to get certs

[wanton meadow]

And by the cost i mean not just the actual cost but also the opportunity cost

[sleek finch]

oh typhon 2nd mod only need 4-8
but 2 pissm

[ancient belfry]

quick question, is there a guaranteed pull here like the 120 hardpity?

[dull estuary]

Right so its never happening 😭

[severe crypt]

Not until like 1+ years later

[formal shadow]

next 6* after 150

[runic willow]

It can happen in a year ish if a new event comes around

[shadow bay]

150 pulls if still not vina, next 6 star is vina

[sleek finch]

well, the "guarantee" is 250+ pulls, have fun with that

[vernal drift]

Logo's and Trag's have mod3 and i'm wondering on who who should i do next?

[wanton meadow]

Ngl i hate the green X reaction cos you normally associate green with good

[ancient belfry]

so typically one needs to save 250 tickets for a guaranteed pull?

[sleek finch]

technically 250 is kinda worst case scenario
150-200 are the usual range

[runic willow]

If you use sash as a dps iirc his mod was pretty important

[dull estuary]

Whats more worth getting the 23 pulls from the gold cert shop or keeping them for an offrate

[ancient belfry]

knowing my shit luck, ive always have been on hardpity lol even in enfield

[wanton meadow]

Have you checked the breakpoint atk needed on your trag to proc nerve to bosses with 1 cat?

[winter crystal]

38 pulls

[vernal drift]

Well i don't think i'm really to be honest as trag, logos, exu2 and leizialt have been my dps really

[dull estuary]

So defo better right? And whats the price

[runic willow]

Don't think you're able to get 2 months of cert pulls back to back unless you pull a lot, so you could sit on it and decide later?

[thorny edge]

"on your logos with 1 cat"

[vernal drift]

Oh no i haven't where would i go to check that?

[winter crystal]

Just depends on who is in the gold cert shop, mylnar was there and that’s worth more then 38 pulls and it costs less then 38 pulls

[dull estuary]

Whats the cost of all the tickets together

[wanton meadow]

Yea mb I'm at work so not fully focused

[vernal drift]

Lol.

[runic willow]

If a good unit did come around it'd be like 25 pulls for a guaranteed good unit

Iirc it's 258

And the cost efficent tickets are back loaded so u wanna get the whole thing or nothing

[wanton meadow]

Do people in this chat have a trusted trag breakpoint calculator that they'd like to push

[tiny abyss]

Yeh 10 per pull for first tier and 6 per pull for last

[viscid flint]

What sakiko skill do i m3

[vernal drift]

S3

[sleek finch]

in short
tragodia need level 88 at mod2
or lv82 at mod3
the module block is honestly more valuable than exp ig

the break point is important for boss and CC if -50% atk modifier is included

doesnt matter in IS

[wanton meadow]

If there's none I'll drop dragongjy's doc if that's not against the rules

[runic willow]

He can be used as a weaker mlynar helidrop with invis reveal, slightly faster charge and redeployment than mlynar / leizi(?)
Your 4 dps are alr great tho

[wanton meadow]

Mods is it ok to drop a doc link here

[sleek finch]

couldnt you just
use a calculator for that, you dont really need a dragonjy doc for that

[crude path]

S1 for umiri s1 combo, S2 for afk and S3 to delete everything

[sleek finch]

even the calculator on your phone can do that

[viscid flint]

Thanks

[wanton meadow]

It's just easier to consume for people who don't wanna bother

[vernal drift]

~~ like me ~~

[sleek finch]

but the breakpoint is just 82 and 88

[wanton meadow]

What about when pots come into play

[coarse notch]

your goal is to reach 565 atk, thats it
the breakpoint isnt very important anyways

[sleek finch]

then subtract 26 levels

[vernal drift]

Alright then so i might get his mod then but i'm still on who should get mod3 next

[manic cairn]

which stage in the event is an earliest stage I could farm? I dont want to touch anything hard yet

[craggy stirrup]

7, 8 and 9 are pretty common farming stages (tier 3 materials)
but.. idk anything about the earlier stages whoops mb for replying

[fathom nest]

You could farm GO-1 if you really wanted to

[tiny abyss]

-# Erm GO

[fathom nest]

[finite isle]

aight I rerolled again, which banner do I use the claimed currency from mail? I got 3920

[vernal drift]

So i just go for 565 atk before battle?

[ancient belfry]

whats the basic strategy for pulling here? just pull and hope for the best?
im used to saving for guaranteed pull huhuhu

[coarse notch]

whatever it takes to get 565 atk when hes down

[craggy stirrup]

generally not recommended to reroll atm since vina victorina is NOT groundbreaking, and the standard banner is kinda gamba gamba

[fathom nest]

Ideally ignore kernel and the free 5 star on each banner. Pull for strong ops that are rated up and don't hope for good off rates. Best to have around 60~70 pulls to have a decent shot at any specific rate up

[coarse notch]

it depends on the banner but you pull when you have a reasonable expectation of hitting a 6 star and the banner is good

[west nebula]

wats more of a prio to E2, sakiko or silverash?

[fathom nest]

Saki

[winter crystal]

It’s vina and get anyone that’s not her, it’s your only reroll angle with the current banners. Could be over fast or not but we did it earlier today

[ancient belfry]

Should I pull here? for the guaranteed 6 star

[shadow bay]

singles till first 6 star

[fathom nest]

Use singles until you get it, yeah

[winter crystal]

Single pulls until first 6 starting then Never again

[gilded cloak]

If you need to, but you can save orundum for other banners if you don't think you need them

[fathom nest]

You only get 1 so pulling further is a waste unless you just want the banner removed

[ancient belfry]

why single pull? ahh rng so i can have more chance to get multiple 6*

[winter crystal]

No

[tiny abyss]

So if u get 6* midway u save

[fathom nest]

Potentially save a few pulls

[ancient belfry]

ohhhh thankss

[gilded cloak]

I would assume it's rigged so that the guaranteed 6 star is only after you fail to get any from the usual 2%

[fathom nest]

Nope, you can get it from the forced tutorial roll

[tiny abyss]

Ya
-# I did lol

[fast vault]

What is the rule of thumb for 6 star operators being available in the gold cert shop? I really want ascalon

[ancient belfry]

here goes my shit luck, im going to pull now

[tiny abyss]

Usually 2 years after debut

[fathom nest]

Reruns are random, debut is around 2 years after their event

[fast vault]

Ahh, thank you both

[fathom nest]

Keep in mind that delays can happen

And have

[tiny abyss]

That combined makes it sound like 4 years

[pliant arrow]

To gain trust operators just need to be on the team not actually deployed in the battle right?

[devout inlet]

need help, should i get chen or someone else

[gilded cloak]

She's likely upcoming along with 2 other strong units like logos

[fathom nest]

Right

Sanity spent and just in the squad

[coarse notch]

suzuran gamble

[ember condor]

all 3 of sakiko's skills are actually good and usable??

[fathom nest]

Just 2 and 3

[devout inlet]

alr

[gilded cloak]

Isn't skill 1 alright for fever spam with bandmates

[ember condor]

hmm i see, here i thought 1 is good since it can by extension turn umiri's skill on

[coarse notch]

if you're fever spamming might as well chain s3s

[gilded cloak]

Makes sense

[dull estuary]

Is there a recommended support i should take into saltfin graveyard or should I just wing it

[ember condor]

i see

[ancient belfry]

i saved 3 pulls thanks everyonee

[gilded cloak]

Oh wow

[dapper hearth]

Accidentally pulled for Viviana while tryna pull for Vina on my third gacha, is she gud gud or buns buns?

[wanton meadow]

Honestly might as well just use s3 in all situations where you're not forced into being e1

[coarse notch]

indeed

[winter crystal]

Buns

[wanton meadow]

The more i play with s2 the more I don't like it compared to s3

[dapper hearth]

Guh

[ancient belfry]

it's still there tho, should i still pull (I saved 1 pull lol i thought it was 3)

[fathom nest]

Ignore it now

[thorny edge]

buns but theres more buns than her and she has a decent base skill

[urban sleet]

Shouldn't be pulling for vina either but oh well newbies cam use her

[lime grove]

wrong chat

[winter crystal]

Just ignore

[ember condor]

not a recommendation but i'd take someone like narantuya for top rightmost deployment tile tbh. for some reason that tile don't get any damage and she kills all those slugs and flying things easily

[ancient belfry]

alright thanks youu minna

[dull estuary]

Thx ill keep this in mind

[urban sleet]

3 and 4 stars can clear so borrow whoever you want ig

[gilded cloak]

Isn't that a bit overkill to have her there when other ranged operators can work?

[dull estuary]

The 400 kills really

[ember condor]

yea any ranged operators can work

[urban sleet]

Yes

[wanton meadow]

Saltfin is actually quite easy to clear with lower rarities cos most of the killing can be offloaded to the quicksand

[ember condor]

narantuya is bcoz she can also reach a tile behind her and deals some extra damage

but its definetly overkill now that i think about it

[gray mulch]

Isn't the harder part leftside tho

Anything can clear right side

[wanton meadow]

In saltfin? For low rarity runs you don't touch that side of the map, you just block top right with aoe and block bottom mid to make the big guys sink

[gray mulch]

I might be confusing this for a different map

[wanton meadow]

It's the quicksand ship map

[tiny abyss]

Saltfin is the current rotating

[fathom nest]

Thornsalt event

[arctic cargo]

if i want to nuke a boss does exia s3 or s2 do that better?

[wanton meadow]

You could nuke some bosses with exu s3 and a lot of buffs, it's a lot of effort for something that could've been done easier tho

[arctic cargo]

ah so just use wisadel then im guessing

[wanton meadow]

Or do you mean exu alter

[arctic cargo]

exu alter new covenant

[coarse notch]

s2

[wanton meadow]

Exu alter uses s2 to nuke stuff

[arctic cargo]

i wanted to try it , i use wisadel so often thought she would be a nice change

[wanton meadow]

Exu and exu alter are 2 different units btw pls specify

[arctic cargo]

sorry my bad

[kind quarry]

when does pick 3 banner come out? do we know?

[gray mulch]

We won't know until announcement

[urban sleet]

Next banner as per cn scheduling but it's subject to rescheduling

[tiny abyss]

It ran with Rebuilding Mandate in CN so prob whenever that is

[finite isle]

Is this dude any good?

[gray mulch]

Good at e1

[fathom nest]

Works good for newbies, falls off later

[wanton meadow]

Usable unit, not the best but he works

[finite isle]

Who the best from beginner banner?

[fathom nest]

Silver

[gilded cloak]

S3 has awful damage per hit, tickling high defense enemies despite good DPS. It's mainly for the redeploy ability

[gray mulch]

Wait aren't you rerolling? You reroll on standard not newbie

[finite isle]

After I get him I save?

[wanton meadow]

Is using S3 resetting sp considered nuking with her S3?

[finite isle]

oml yes I am

[tiny abyss]

How does one forget they're rerolling 💔

[finite isle]

Do singles on standard yeah? I'm a beginner

[finite isle]

the one with ceobe and weedy?

[ancient belfry]

I just realized why it is adviced to use 3 or 4 star units first, cos these 6 stars behaves in more than 2 roles which skips the learning phase of roles.

He basically is a melee and a range T.T

[gray mulch]

Midnight does the same thing

[quick creek]

I don't do modules but I'm starting to, which ones priority to build?

[urban sleet]

Silverash and mlynar come to mind atm

[coarse notch]

mlynar lemuen ela

[gray mulch]

Kal is mod if you play is

[coarse notch]

followed by sash surtr kal(IS)

[finite isle]

bruh vina banner is expiring?

[coarse notch]

not anytime soon

[fathom nest]

It just started

[coarse notch]

not that it matters, your goal is to not get her

[finite isle]

mb reading is hard

[fathom nest]

We're painfully aware

[urban sleet]

Wait who would be their rerolling target then

[finite isle]

anyone other than vina they said

[quick creek]

Thanks

[fathom nest]

A good off rate is the goal

[coarse notch]

hopefully someone better than vina

[tiny abyss]

-# hool

[gray mulch]

Isn't typhon banner better tho

[fathom nest]

Trag would be the best but gotta be hyper lucky

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah you got mountain before I forgot, thought beginner banner eas also off-limits for you

[finite isle]

imma reroll non-stop it cures my pulling itch on endfield

[gray mulch]

You don't want the 6 star onrate and the 5*s are better on typhon so reroll on typhon imo

[finite isle]

ok then

[earnest sparrow]

if I buy fourniture that I don't own, it won't be converted to certificates, right?

[fathom nest]

You'll know if it converts because it'll flash the purple certs

[earnest sparrow]

okay thanks

[finite isle]

Hol up

[coarse notch]

better

[gray mulch]

Not bad

[finite isle]

I stop pulling now?

[gray mulch]

If you want you can settle

[coarse notch]

not super uber great but shes pretty damn good
you're fine to stop here or you can keep gambling, id save this account tho in case you want to return

[royal swan]

yea if ur willling to do a bit more u can save this and see if u get something better

[finite isle]

f it we ball

imma save tho

[coarse notch]

actually idk how do you even save accounts now that you dont use salted emails, anyone know

[quick creek]

Yo who is a good operator to raise?

[coarse notch]

zuole haruka

[finite isle]

imma bind it with one of my emails

[slim tusk]

you can still use salted email

[gray mulch]

You really pulled haruka and never raised her

[ancient belfry]

should i start this one? here's my squad

[coarse notch]

do you just bind it to a salted email

[lunar apex]

fuh is salted email ?

[manic cairn]

wow this event is pretty chilled compared with last event, I could reach stage 7 without any plan besides going full ave mujica

[urban sleet]

Maybe need e1s I could be wrong tho

[ancient belfry]

who should I E1?

[finite isle]

can I just bind it with my own?

[quick creek]

Is Haruka good bro? I didn't get the limited so I think all other ops are bad

[slate ridge]

you salt it to add flavor
its still the same email but can be used for multiple things aka binding it to the main email etc

[urban sleet]

Yeah this event is such a joke that game decided to rig gpg to crash for the 3rd time in 5 days (aka make me reinstall the entire game) to make it hard for me

[urban sleet]

??? There are bad limited and good standard operators too

[earnest osprey]

Who to choose for instant E2?

[urban sleet]

Check pins

[tiny abyss]

Ermm skill issue
-# my gpg only crashed once

Actually can other enemies hit Trag's s3 cage

[eager hull]

i should skip the catherine tokens, right?
since i can get them later in Record Restoration or whatever its called?

[fathom nest]

If you didn't get them during the first event run

[formal shadow]

it's not as bad as losing your IS run to gpg crash

[gilded cloak]

How long does it take for the welfare potentials to become available after the rerun event ends?

[signal dragon]

you guys should try mumu

[lunar apex]

Losing your IS run to maint

[formal shadow]

that's... a skill issue

[fathom nest]

Record restore happens around a year after rerun

[gray mulch]

Yes unconditional 30% sanc is good

[gilded cloak]

Ushakwhzpak probably just buying tokens then

[eager hull]

so should we buy catherine tokens or get then free later

[gilded cloak]

Well the answer is obvious if you don't plan to use her for a year :3

[gray mulch]

You're not gonna be using her

[fathom nest]

The letter for potentials won't give you certs

[gilded cloak]

I might

[fathom nest]

You'll only get them from tokens

[eager hull]

tokens give certs?

[fathom nest]

If you have any potentials on her already

[gilded cloak]

Only if you already have max potential

[fathom nest]

You don't need them max

[eager hull]

i don't have her at all

[signal dragon]

if you played the event a year ago and bought tokens for welfare, then buy tokens on rerun to exchange for gold certs

[fathom nest]

Then you won't get certs

No point getting the tokens

[eager hull]

so, skip then, got it

[gray mulch]

You can exchange tokens in the shop for certs

[copper oracle]

what if its surprised maint like the one we had a year ago

[gilded cloak]

They can just kill your run with maintenance?

[copper oracle]

if u are in stage while maint started ur run dies

[eager hull]

wait but i don't have catherine at all

[ashen surge]

is silver ash really is the best option here no matter what? (aside from already having him)

[gilded cloak]

He is useful even if you don't deploy him while all others are powercrept in some way I think

[signal dragon]

who? nvm discord wasn't showing messages

[gray mulch]

You get her when you clear go-4. Anyways skip the tokens

[ashen surge]

I see.

[gray mulch]

But exchange your other tokens in the shop if you haven't done that before. Bottom left

[finite isle]

Better?

[gilded cloak]

She's getting a hello kitty skin rerun

[robust thistle]

Arguably worse

[gray mulch]

Summer skin is better

[eager totem]

how much yellow cert is a 6* token

[signal dragon]

sa is good cause burst damage, others fall off quicker in comparison

[finite isle]

I got her on my first single, should I pull more?

[robust thistle]

Dunno, maybe

[gray mulch]

Why not

[eager totem]

how much yellow certs is a 6* token

[signal dragon]

15

[gilded cloak]

Is ingame

[gray mulch]

You can see all token info in "rules" next to "token exchange"

[eager totem]

welfare isnt some sort of exception right

[finite isle]

i got bassline but reroll I guess

[fathom nest]

No

[gray mulch]

Yeah bassline is good but naran account is still better

[fathom nest]

If you have a max pot 6 star welfare you'll get 70 certs total during the rerun

[eager totem]

isnt it 60

[tiny abyss]

Does this include Face-Off

[eager totem]

huh u sell 6 for 60 no?

[copper oracle]

no

[pale tapir]

40 + 30 = 70

[lunar apex]

amazon end of time

[fathom nest]

You're forgetting certs from obtaining again

[keen hedge]

Only on rerun right? not when it becomes permanent

[fathom nest]

Right

[copper oracle]

2nd copy of 6 star is 10 tokens
then 6 tokens at 10 token each for 60 token total

[eager totem]

oh u get the op again i just saw it

[gray mulch]

Isn't second copy 15?

[copper oracle]

no thats the 7th+ copy

[gray mulch]

Oh it doesn't count as 7th

[fathom nest]

Chart was right above your comment too

[copper oracle]

certs from getting op only track how many times u got the op not what pot they are
getting pots from tokens or kernal is a seperate counter

[crude path]

Generally mod x, mod y could be better if she doesn't change targets but that's not usually the case

[copper oracle]

that why u can own an op and still get 1 gold cert for pot

[gray mulch]

That's never happened to me so didn't know

[tiny abyss]

-# like i did with sesa from recruitment

[eager totem]

so even if u didnt buy any pots u still get
10 from obtaining op
10 from the 7th token
for a 6 star welfare

[copper oracle]

it means u didnt pull kernal enough 😇

[gray mulch]

I have most from kernel

[copper oracle]

damn old player

[gray mulch]

I got most of them before we got kernel banner I think

[wanton meadow]

Uh can anyone explain the main problems with bobbing?

[fallen depot]

coming from someone who havent touched arknights for a while and didnt know of bobbing's existence, based of the limited amount of info in discord records. he is a burn elementalist, a five star, and have bad range

this has been yours truly, nanashitGPT

[oblique cypress]

so true gang

[brazen gulch]

i don't know what "the" problem with bobbing is in community consensus, but as someone who regularly employs blaze2 i don't feel like dedicating an entire unit slot just for a chance to have my blaze2 s3 deal more damage, and that's assuming i had already invested into him for him to deal meaningful burn. and there's no other reason to bring him other than to empower other "burners"

[kind igloo]

is wang a must pull?

[wanton meadow]

What's the difference between that and bringing a dedicated buffer/debuffer?

[violet meadow]

is she giod

[brazen gulch]

if you mean stuff like RES debuffers and ATK Inspiration, no idea. i don't use either (s2 turns everything to ashes already so why bother)

[violet meadow]

is she usable e1? or do i have to max her out

[pale tapir]

no operator is a "must pull"
some are just objectively stronger than others
you can play the vast majority of the game's content without so called "must pull" operators

[fallen depot]

probably want e2 since she really needs the skill and stats. decent dps not a super carry

dont max out any characters thank you

[kind igloo]

alright, let me rephrase it, is wang as strong as wisadel in term of damage?

[pale tapir]

I've never used him so idk
but wifeadel isn't the be all end all for damage anyway

[wanton meadow]

Wisadel isn't even the highest damage in the first place, she's just easy, safe, and has obscene range

[pale tapir]

safe until the first aoe explosion on her pet rocks

[wanton meadow]

time to use fartooth to above explosions

[orchid plover]

Why Wisadel is killing herself in IS6 when i activate S3 ?

[gray mulch]

Spikes

[formal shadow]

which stage is this

[pale tapir]

are you shooting the bean with spikes on it

[brazen gulch]

got tired

[gray mulch]

Either spike chest or porcupine

[orchid plover]

Oh ok, i didn't know since i'm new about a week of playtime, but it was a stage where 3 ennemy unit were digging rock on the top and another on the leftmost bottom side

[spare jetty]

ah yes wis s3 against literally 200+ hp hitcount enemies

[pale tapir]

what enemy are they talking about?

[timber elk]

Who among the 5 star Ave Mujica Collab are the ones who synergize the most and usable with Sakiko? I remember watching that there are only 2 who are worth building from them? (I'll buy their skin, sadly I only have enough op for only 2 more of them after pulling Sakiko and buying her skin)

[spare jetty]

wis true weaknesses is literally stuffs that can reflect dmg

[wanton meadow]

All of them work well with sakiko, the problem is when you remove them from sakiko

[timber elk]

I remember there were 2 who stand out?

[halcyon solar]

anyone have fiametta s3m3 i could borrow?

[pale tapir]

mutsumi and uika then umiri
u either run skk mutsu uika or skk umiri or all 4 (or just skk alone)

[timber elk]

Ahhh tyty

[pale tapir]

mutsu and uika's kits bounce off each other and allow them to generate fever insanely fast if mutsumi is hitting enemies while uika heals her
but they're not particularly good without sakichan to actually do damage, just okay for a 5*
umiri is a great range extender but she's optional since uika is usually good enough

[wanton meadow]

Mutsumi is pretty ok as a standalone, uika and umiri arguably kinda ok as a standalone but I'm not convinced, nyamu is weak without fever spam

[signal dragon]

do you need it for anything in particular?

[halcyon solar]

annihilation

[silver smelt]

why do you need fia for anni

[signal dragon]

afk

[bitter anvil]

u prolly can use some other afk skill and get same result if not better

[kind igloo]

Should I pull for SA alter banner or Sui sibling banner?

[silver smelt]

they arent mutually exclusive
both is good

[shadow bay]

yes

[vital kelp]

cant u do both

[signal dragon]

there's a 3 month gap between them

[shadow bay]

but i think if u need to prio one, wang would be the priority

[kind igloo]

Hmm, I could but I only be able to do 100 pulls each, I cant spark wisadel or shu then

[silver smelt]

just dont spark

[shadow bay]

him doing earth spirit shenanigans with the go pieces is nasty work indeed

[dusk hill]

Is Uika worth building?

[bitter anvil]

ur new player u can get so many pulls

a normal player gets like 300 pulls in 6 months, a new player has 600+ grindable pulls, you can easily pull both and if there's a good orienting banner can pull on that as well

[oblique cypress]

oh no i got multiple good units instead of sparking one good unit

[shadow bay]

ig im not normal

[kind igloo]

So skip orienting then? There's mon3tr, ascalon, and logos

[eager totem]

what did u do

[dusk hill]

There might be some changes on orienteering

[bitter anvil]

global orienting might be changed, it depends what it gets

[kind igloo]

Not really, I only build her because I want to use ave mujica team

[dusk hill]

I'm a big fan of ave mujica should I do it?

[silver smelt]

Are you a big fan of Uika?

[brazen gulch]

you kinda answered your question yourself, no? if you like them, build them, who are we to stop you. if you want to play meta, 📌 have the answers (generally no)

[jovial urchin]

If you're a fan then why not? Just keep in mind that you most likely are going to use only Saki if you're going for squad efficiency

[dusk hill]

Okay thanks thanks

[wanton meadow]

Ave mujica is fun to play with and for new accounts they're very nice to work with cos they cover a complete package of functionalities, but it's by no means comparable to a roster of premium units

[kind igloo]

Yea, shes more like a buffer rather than a healer, so mind that first, secondly, at least build nyamu or umiri since both has great synergy with sakiko, ironically, the ave mujica member that has the least synergy is mutsumi because her doll form is useless (just like mortis) shes a tanky dollkeeper

[pale tapir]

erm nyamu can stay unemployed sorry

[slim tusk]

the most useless is nyamu

[wanton meadow]

Nah mutsumi is the best partner for sakiko among the band member cos she charges fever fast

[dusk hill]

Imma just build all the members I have mutsumi already built

[silver smelt]

well dont let us stop u

[kind igloo]

Yea, thats better, by no means im hating on mutsumi, shes my favorite, I just don't use her alot because 3 ave mujica member is more than enough for most stages

[wanton meadow]

One day i will give mutsumi mod1, after i solve the goddamn material drought I'm in

[proven kelp]

You have no idea what you are yapping if you think Mutsumi is the worse one when she and Uika on their own can fill the Fever bar on a single skill

[pale tapir]

I highly recommend you read their entire kit

[arctic hawk]

and if you don't know what you're yapping about don't speak!

[glossy hinge]

Guys who's better on overall content.
Executor alter or Degenbreacher

[thorny edge]

b-but i wanna yap

[proven kelp]

Sadly alot of people here just parrot shit they heard about the band

[arctic hawk]

you know what you are yapping about~

[spare jetty]

have a helper certificate then yap

[thorny edge]

degen for actual impact. executor is comfy in gen content but theres other ppl who can lanehold as well or even better

[shadow bay]

i dunno i was told they are beautiful, hence i shill

[proven kelp]

So true

[full trellis]

i want mon3tr, would it be worth pulling for her out of the 3 person draw when that comes?

[spare jetty]

it might change

[silver smelt]

we dont know if she comes
if its only 1/3 don't

[full trellis]

o

[proven kelp]

Read the Upcoming banner priority for more info

[signal dragon]

yeah just wait till the banner is here, no point debating hypothetical

[wanton meadow]

As you can see the best partner for sakiko is a solo independent laneholder cos from what I've experienced ave mujica REALLY wants to set up a killzone so despite the range extension you normally don't want to spread the range too too far

[glossy hinge]

and what about ray and lemuen who's better

[spare jetty]

they're both good bruh

[robust thistle]

In a vacuum, lemuen

[thorny edge]

theres debate for both but im on the lemuen side

[proven kelp]

Lemon

[silver smelt]

Lemuen ngl

[signal dragon]

just link your krooster

[robust thistle]

Ray is more specialized in a way
Lemuen is just plug and play

[finite isle]

He good?

[thorny edge]

on demand 68k damage with great aoe is just crazy good

[silver smelt]

Niche

[spare jetty]

niche

[abstract mauve]

ass

[silver smelt]

Umazing cycle aswell

[wanton meadow]

i press warfarin skill

[shadow bay]

dude who can atk buff, sp buff, or spawn funny turret

so so ig... he have utilities as mentioned, its a matter of if u need it

[thorny edge]

which u 99% of the time wont

[finite isle]

I'm a beginner, rerolling

[signal dragon]

keep rerolling

[thorny edge]

definitely not

[royal swan]

Worse than the narantuya acc, did u get anything better?

[shadow bay]

eh hes not the unit u want as a beginner

[proven kelp]

Check the pins for the rerolling guide on who are worth keeping

[finite isle]

Bro recognizes me lol

[wanton meadow]

Ngl it might be a meme but seeing ray buffed by warfarin is so satisfying

[spare jetty]

until u see is4ed4 clears in the past

[glossy hinge]

I just feel my current squad feel weird

[royal swan]

Spoiler alert u can do the same with lemuen

[wanton meadow]

I know but idk what it is about ray

[silver smelt]

higher dph?

[thorny edge]

spoiler alert lemuen works even better

[wanton meadow]

Yea it's just the big red number feels so good

[signal dragon]

looks fine overall

[thorny edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1430458321944449037/1458679724300832802/IMG_1056.gif

[glossy hinge]

would you suggest any change?

[signal dragon]

bubbles committing war crimes again

[thorny edge]

lemuen's numbers are bigger and redder

[pine plover]

my first experience with IS6 and i got Yi pathing going straight down directly instead of the zig zag

[wanton meadow]

I'm not arguing that lemuen is not better than ray, I'm saying i like ray's big numbers

[glossy hinge]

which skill is often use with lemuen

[signal dragon]

is Dorothy there just for mumu clone?

[split sphinx]

lemuen logos in

[unique garnet]

is.... e2 necrass a wrong decision of my life?

[proven kelp]

I think Ray has them bigger

[glossy hinge]

yeah

[frail lynx]

it’s s3m3 for surtr right? and mod3?

[thorny edge]

lemuen has bigger generally

[split sphinx]

bigger

[silver smelt]

ray bigger dph no?

[proven kelp]

Damn, only few got it

[thorny edge]

lemuen dph is 8.7k

[glossy hinge]

fuck i just masterize skill 2

[signal dragon]

could swap Myrtle and gg ig but just adjust according to stage

[shadow bay]

module... mostly settle on mod2

[glossy hinge]

myrtle for another flag? and GG for lap alter right?

[shadow bay]

me personally have her unmodded... she should still be fine unmodded but yeh

[frail lynx]

oh…

[undone portal]

comfy to deploy for the vast majority of stages, since the only real contexts that statcheck her summons are intentional challenge content

[tepid thistle]

I thought only mod 1 is necessary?

[signal dragon]

logos, you don't really need a flag tbh

[shadow bay]

on paper ofc mod3 is beneficial coz... more ign res the better... its the problem of is that ign res buff from module worth for u, and u can actually afford it

[slim tusk]

how do you get this
S2?

[shadow bay]

insert now the mat calcs for dmg difference of modded vs unmodded surtr

[frail lynx]

oh okay thank you. i went all the way bc had the mats.

[signal dragon]

anyone remember the difference between mod 2 and 3?

[thorny edge]

s3
s2 dph is way higher

[dull estuary]

Why does the spark cert thing not show up for me

[royal swan]

2 or 3 depends on content

2 for consistent dmg to deal with multiple weaker enemies, 3 to nuke bigger threats/waves of enemies

[glossy hinge]

i will try, i'd never tried without a flag

[split sphinx]

only during limited banner

[signal dragon]

it's only for limited banners

[unique garnet]

Ok! That sound decent,

[dull estuary]

Ooh

[thorny edge]

on paper yes, but s3 is still better than s2 for basically everything in practice

[silver smelt]

2 is for dodge ignore boss*

[royal swan]

Eh u can replace typhon in about every afk guide with her with s2 lemuen, pretty nifty

That as well yea, is2 ed1 my beloved

[silver smelt]

and also for normal bosses if u somehow cant face her against the wall or something

[full trellis]

once i get texas from the pinboard it should replace fang right?

[thorny edge]

not quite. if you have multiple weaker enemies, lemuen s1 is unironically better than s2 or equal. because s2 is disfunctional without elites

[signal dragon]

you can ignore Texas and pinboard tbh

[wanton meadow]

As a global damage unhaver, should i build ambriel just to make people rip their hairs out?

[finite isle]

Did another reroll got kazemaru and wind chimes no 6*, reroll again yeah?

[royal swan]

Ambriel is a decent unit for a 4* tho so it depends on what ur doing

[shadow bay]

aim for a 6 star

i think one told you look in pins for a list of good 6 star to settle on if offrate

[formal shadow]

global is slop anyways

[slim tusk]

maf not mafing,max pot lem doesn't hit 8k dph

[wanton meadow]

I play gacha games, I'm already involved in slop.

[shadow bay]

although w8 who are rerolling target this banner??? typhon???

[wanton meadow]

I know she is, she's just... finnicky with her targeting

[ancient current]

never stop at 5*
90% of them are worthless
always aim for a good 6* while rerolling

[royal swan]

Offbanner, for now they have narantuya, they're aiming for sth better

[thorny edge]

did u remember her 15% damage increase on marked enemies? 18% with pots, takes her dph into the 9k

[slim tusk]

dmg scale doesn't affect dph 💀

[silver smelt]

what

[shadow bay]

ehh ill just take this... i thought yall wishing him for a typhon... i can only see her as on rate target atm for reroll

[thorny edge]

oh myb its 7.7k then
how high is ray's

[oblique cypress]

laqera its like your whole bit

[thorny edge]

what bit 🥹

[slim tusk]

iuno kinda lazy too maf

[oblique cypress]

the lemuen thing

[shadow bay]

wow yall can do math???

[thorny edge]

ya i love lemuen she's the best op in the game

[silver smelt]

7.16k dph pot1 e260mod2

[abstract mauve]

e2 60

[silver smelt]

^same channel that tells everyone not to lv90

[oblique cypress]

what the calcing for e2 60 mod 2 p1
what are you broke or something

[silver smelt]

cause i assume the person asking isnt going to be p6 e2l90

[autumn rivet]

4-6 better than 1-7

[wanton meadow]

But why pot1 specifically then?

[abstract mauve]

you assume max level and mod for damage calcs. pot1 is fine to assume

[unborn elbow]

Is wang good?

[ivory terrace]

is right up there
...if u know what u r doing ofc

[silver smelt]

walah max level and mod adds like 300 dph?
so like 7.4k dph

[thorny edge]

ray's dph is 5.8k at pot 6
unless im stupid
so its not even close lol

[finite isle]

well well

[oblique cypress]

wow so ray bad op

[ancient current]

keep rerolling

[thorny edge]

@shadow bay

[finite isle]

F

[shadow bay]

uhhh.... i would reroll

||she hot though ugh||

[thorny edge]

wait why did i ping nhamnham

[shadow bay]

good question

[finite isle]

Why, is she bad?

[silver smelt]

pot1 is the default

[wanton meadow]

Intrusive thoughts?

[ivory terrace]

vivi is ehhh mid

[finite isle]

I'm using up my luck for this year

[shadow bay]

1. she need e2 to function
2. she can be usable, but bound to be replaced later on