help

[native summit]

Act 1 is still easy

[tacit latch]

also what does that have to do with resources

[native cargo]

Is it just me or mountain naturally blocks 3 mobs

[ancient current]

oh nvm liberators are block 3

[ancient current]

2 with s2

[native summit]

Like ya know, if things get too hard then you can start raising

[warped gust]

If you want to maximize it (or like roguelike games), blitz to 3-8 then play any integrated strategies, you can get an absurd amount of materials essentially for free (no sanity cost but itll take time, so better if you have fun lol)

[young glacier]

1 base +1 skill 2 (to my memory)

[native summit]

Also some story stages are easy mats farm

[ancient current]

i guess me not using liberators at all has proved detrimental

[tacit latch]

yeah i can see that

[native summit]

So yeah probably go as far as you can on the main stories

[safe tundra]

you dont draft leizi?

[tacit latch]

buuuut i gotta do it normally, i've beaten it with a support unit

[ancient current]

i don't have leizi i skipped her

[safe tundra]

sob

[gray mulch]

You don't wanna be farming story

[tacit latch]

which makes me think, should i always use support units or nah

[abstract mauve]

3 block at e2. 2 block e0 and e1 as some have said but ye

[warped gust]

You can dabble in those, maybe do IS6 since it levels Raidian (you can take her to e2 like that I think)

But yeah just play at your own pace its no biggie

[tacit latch]

then wdym by 3-8

[native summit]

Would be great if you don't have too

[gray mulch]

Do you not draft windscoot?

[young glacier]

Probably for first time reward base floor 4 unlock or something (Oh and IS unlocking he talk about)

[warped gust]

Yeah just clear 3-8 to unlock IS

[gray mulch]

They mean first clear to unlock IS

[tacit latch]

in... sui's garden right

[ancient current]

idk he's e0, i have m6 luo xiaohei so i draft him instead

[native summit]

Mmm

[tacit latch]

which IS bro...

[native summit]

Sui garden is the latest one

[safe tundra]

you may use them at your convenience to clear a stage. when theres a time you need an auto, youre forced to be self sufficient

[ancient current]

i literally never use liberators bro

my mlynar is s1m3 i'm not gonna use his ass

[tacit latch]

yeah but ngl i find it hard

[native summit]

Well you can play the older ones if you want

[native cargo]

What is the best way to farm ldm

[south parrot]

For some reason, I got two kernel HH permits. Would it be fine to do two single-pulls or wait until I assemble 10 somehow in a later locating kernel? I’m not even sure what I did to get kernel HH permits tbh

[ancient current]

event shop, base, IS

[young glacier]

Upgrade base and good sleep schedule (dont forget to collect and assign workers)

[ancient current]

you could

[wet bluff]

For the event mini game, 200k money seems grindy, if I only get 3k to 5k every person ...

[gray mulch]

Recent one (sui's garden, aka IS6) has quests so it is best to farm, but eventually you wanna farm all of them. Whenever you need chips or skill books or anything else specific you can do old IS monthly as well

[warped gust]

That’s IS6, probably useful for Raidian leveling but honestly its kinda cursed lol I remember it being difficult

Do whichever, they all give rewards

[tacit latch]

which one should i choose

[ancient current]

oh wait the 10x is a concatenation
yeah idk if 2 pulls is wise

[tacit latch]

i remember the first time doing this was kinda confusing so i chose at random

[quartz imp]

what are the odds to get a specific secondary rate-up on a limited banner?

[native cargo]

Which unit got better e1 silverash surtr or thorn

[ancient current]

can go support squad

[warped gust]

You’ll be dying so honestly it’s not a big deal but support is nice

[tacit latch]

guh

[ancient current]

all of them need s3, but i guess surtr performs ok compared to the other two

[ancient current]

coupons

[tacit latch]

yeah this reminds me of the mirror dungeon but... worse

[clever geyser]

Is it worth getting the module for Teq?

[native summit]

Oh it's much harder alright

[young glacier]

For offbanner it is roughly 2.5% for rate up x5 limited and roughly 0.5% for everyone else. It is rounded and real number depends on how much offbanners we have with new releases/kernel expands etc

[warped gust]

Just feel it out with the gameplay, remember to have fun instead of trying to optimize everything

[tacit latch]

with an insanelyt higher skill gap

[proper robin]

which skill for raidian solo ed1

[bitter anvil]

roguelike is optional btw

[gray mulch]

For newbie shield and life might be better but once you figure out how to use coupons effectively it's best

[ancient current]

at your level, no

[native summit]

At least in Limbus you can reset when you fuck up, in IS, you fuck up, you're done

[bitter anvil]

S2 or S3 prolly, me thinks S2

[tacit latch]

yeah but yknow, high-risk, high reward

[wet bluff]

Do I have to spam the ATO event minigame to get enough points? Seems a bit brainless

[young glacier]

Let me guess. "Have Raidian last hit ed1 boss" mission

[native summit]

[bitter anvil]

thwrw isn't much risk, the mofe is eeasy enough that u can win even while making bad decisions so like

[warped gust]

Raidian solo by just having 200 kettles and leaking everything

[viscid arch]

When will the Silverash and Praminx banners come to global?

[ebon pendant]

forever?

[gray mulch]

RA is the easier mode but it's boring

[bitter anvil]

Speculation aint allowed, but previous celeb banners have always been late april sooo

[native summit]

Wdym?

[tacit latch]

i suppose i can choose a recruitment set by which one i prefer most right

[proper robin]

not even, i just got like 8 supporter vouchers so my only dps is her, ling, and virtuosa

[viscid arch]

Thank you

[ebon pendant]

is it fucked forever like can you never restart the run or something?

[quartz imp]

so the total odds would be 2.5% * 30% * 2%?

[native summit]

I mean as in it ends your run

[ebon pendant]

oh

[young glacier]

Nah 2.5% is like piece of what form said 30%

[gray mulch]

You can borrow friend's op. Specialist for exu2, supporter for tragodia or sniper for wisadel recommended

[native summit]

And you can also borrow support units if you aren't confident in your OPs

[brazen gulch]

well you can begin a new run anytime you want. you just can't "roll back" to any point of your current (or past) runs

[tacit latch]

my friend has a wisadel, i can use her

[warped gust]

great

[gray mulch]

Once you upgrade your raidian trait she is also a very strong carry for is6

[bitter anvil]

exia/raidian/myrtle start is very strong

u can borrow all 3, do defender supporter, get insta e2 hoshi very quickly and win

[native summit]

Wisadel is a fucking meme bro, people joke about how she plays the game for you

[clever geyser]

Interesting Teq tech i guess. With vampire girl if i drop him in since he's invisble but i can throw the s2 on him which won't be disturbed since he wont die.

[native summit]

She just that good

[tacit latch]

because she does lmao

[clever geyser]

Better pic.

[tacit latch]

she's no longer available right

[native summit]

Limited

[gray mulch]

Celebration banner only

[quartz imp]

so 2% to get a 6 star, 30% for it to be an older limited, and 2.5% for it to be a specific secondary rate-up?

[tacit latch]

i mean this looks decent enough

[worldly sky]

which squads do u pick for this

[native summit]

Ouch

[bitter anvil]

any works but as I said defenser supporter is strongest, coz defender has hoshi and supp has haruka/trag/angelina/raidian all very strong picks

even gnosis is draftable after mod

[ancient current]

you can go blog about IS in #is-station btw

[native summit]

No slow mode there either

[gray mulch]

You can get her offrate on sash banner if you're skilled or save 300 to spark

[worldly sky]

how are you able to draft raidian exia myrtle and hoshi at start tho is what im asking? does defender supp let u do that?

[native summit]

Phew

Pain in the balls

[tame marlin]

I installed the game a few days back and I’m holding off on pulls since someone said a limited unit is coming soon. Any news on that?

[bitter anvil]

only if you get the 2 hope option at start

otherwise u go borrow raidian/humus/purestream, this means u will have maximum hope left for pathfinder

conserve rhe good vouchers and after shop rob, u will be so strong irs hard to lose the run

[worldly sky]

ok ty

[young glacier]

2% for 6* and said 6* will end up 35% new limited, 35% new not limited, 2.5% for each 5x rate up, 0.5% for everyone else (standard + older limited) in pool, and those 2.5%/0.5% sum up to 30% (Well they dont because i rounded down, but you get the idea).
Honestly i kinda dislike adding chance to obtain 6* into math because you always know if bag has 6* by color

[quartz imp]

ok, thx for the breakdown

[native summit]

It's good to be back here, been like what? 2 years?

[gray mulch]

Don't think AK has announced it yet so not allowed to talk about it, but bang dream twitter announced the date you can google

[pliant bear]

who do i chose for kernel?

[tame marlin]

oh okieee, lemme see

[native summit]

Nearl looks nice if you don't have Saria, or maybe BP

[ancient current]

doesn't matter since you're not pulling

unless you have kernel tickets

in which case feater, nearl and whoever you find pretty

[native summit]

BP isn't bad

[ancient current]

negative damage looking ass operator

[proven kelp]

Indeed, she's worse

[bitter anvil]

nearl is decent, swire for base if u have hoshi alt and bluepoison can do hitcount dk how useful is that for u

[ancient current]

i mean that's the same for all marksmen so can't blame her

[gray mulch]

Nearl, or feater or swire for base skill

[young glacier]

Nearl e2 to flex +10% global healing efficiency on NG +5% healing efficiency within range from module

[earnest sparrow]

is matsukiri from the event good? was wondering wether I should farm to buy his tokens or buy manganese ores and loxic kohls

[severe crypt]

He is better than flags, worse than agents

[native summit]

Myrtle but can block they said

[gray mulch]

You do wanna buy anyways to get cert next year on rerun

[young glacier]

Buy tokens if you plan to play arknights, will give burst of gold tokens on rerun

[native summit]

[earnest sparrow]

okay thanks

[native summit]

How often would we meet flyers in current metas anyway

Sorta feel pointless to bring 'em

[gray mulch]

The best marksmen are specialist

[severe crypt]

Even then, the meta snipers make quick work of them anyway

[split sphinx]

Anti airs are good when the event says they are good they dont last very long

[native summit]

I'm an old ass

[young glacier]

Average drone worth mentioning will have 4 digit DEF anyway

[native summit]

UFOs are the closest one to that

[split sphinx]

This an account you get if you reroll last month+ some terrible selector decisions

[young glacier]

Or that one funny custom bot with 4k base ATK in IS6 lmao

[gray mulch]

Goated squad all hotties except myrtle

[native summit]

4 years old

I got more OPs if you want me to show

[split sphinx]

Haruka hoshi2 reroll
Lumen gladia free
Exu thorns beginner + selector
Bagpipe selector

[native summit]

Let me send Krooster real quick

[split sphinx]

Saria is there nvm

[young glacier]

CMs are +20% stats now. Sanity is safe when losing any stage. Have fun, doctuh

[native summit]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/emil_sinclair

Feel free to judge

[pliant bear]

is kal sit still good?

[gray mulch]

Wow you never built sash or surtr huh

[severe crypt]

You have taken hiatuses huh

[gray mulch]

Rosmontis got IS mod btw

[native summit]

2 years break smh

[split sphinx]

What the why you rocking exu bp when you got poz 😭
Can also just drop the flag/pipe for mountain

[gray mulch]

Don't you normally build them first lol

[split sphinx]

Also yato2

[severe crypt]

We cooking this guy

[native summit]

I got Surtr recently from a voucher

[gray mulch]

Ahhh makes sense

[native summit]

And I don't even remember how I got SA

[keen hedge]

Hello, how often do the kernel banner come? I pulled but it wasn't enough for a 6*. Pulls carry over, right?

[native summit]

Well there's much to do

[split sphinx]

Also reed2 unraised yeah your account doesn't need to look this chopped

[native summit]

Surprised you didn't bring up Silence 2

[young glacier]

Cook your own is like twice per year i think (or was it 4?), rotation is normal every 2 week stuff. and avoid pulling at it with because no gold certs for that

[split sphinx]

Ass

[native summit]

Or Mulseye

[gray mulch]

Ros, kal, swire alt got IS mods if you wanna grab those. Phantom has one too if you ever wanna build him

[south fog]

Guys e2 moutain dont worth because i gonna summon on sakiko right🤔

[native summit]

I don't get it?

[keen hedge]

What does every 2 week stuff mean? I kinda played this game single player and I'm oblivious to a lot of stuff 😅

[native summit]

No harm in E2'ing him

[young glacier]

2 week cycle, banner change, 2 week pass, it change again

[south fog]

Save resources for sakiko or spend the resources on moutain 🤔

[split sphinx]

You can e2 mountain later but no, you have like 8 dps spots. Getting just sakiko doesn't make mountain bad

[gray mulch]

Mountain isn't even a dps

[native summit]

[echo venture]

self regen multitarget low cost unit

[keen hedge]

Okay 👍

[echo venture]

not sure is sakiko has any of that. only she has long range

[split sphinx]

Shii, that's the spot he taking

[native summit]

He can afk a lane

[split sphinx]

He kinda half a dps, kinda half a vg

Yk a bit of ass of both worlds.

He's cool

[gray mulch]

I actually like mountain but this channel shits on him usually

[native summit]

Not a real tank cuz he only blocks 2 but hey he's as good as he can be

[oblique cypress]

Because he ain't allat

[atomic saffron]

Hi, I remember that in the yee olden days of old CC's, you'd get an extra package with materials inside it, depending on the number of risk tags you cleared. Does that still exist in modern CC's? Should I clear every risk tag at least once to get the ✅ checkmark on it before the CC ends?

[native summit]

Don't wanna make an all-powerful OP now, do we?

[split sphinx]

He's fine. Would still raise him as a newbie but not exactly too excited about him

[native summit]

And then we have Wisadel

[oblique cypress]

He's not even in the middle of the pack

I'm actually talking to kotkai rn 🗣️

[abstract mauve]

this channel shits on vigil way more and mountain is worse than vigil 🤫
be happy with the current amount of shitting on him

[gray mulch]

I don't think we have that anymore

[oblique cypress]

You are just lucky ardanis isn't here

[atomic saffron]

ye makes sense, I dont remember getting it in the last CC, I asked just in case

[keen hedge]

What is the cube rock item used for? I know it's important to farm but don't remember why

[native summit]

Hope you're joking

[split sphinx]

You need to jump through hella hoops to make him good

[echo venture]

bad take ngl

[abstract mauve]

ehh most situations vigil will take the same role as mountain but gen DP

[native summit]

It's ragebait, has to be

[gray mulch]

How much dp does vigil actually make

[oblique cypress]

It's funny because nobody else uses vigil and they want to have an opinion

[atomic saffron]

I saw the Vigil highlights after he got his new module and he seems pretty aight. Does decent respectable ranged DPS

wouldn't be surprised if he's better than Mountain at this point, I haven't used either in ages so dunno

[abstract mauve]

7dp every 21 seconds. so 0.33 dp/s

[echo venture]

isnt vigil dog squishy

i heard complains about it

[abstract mauve]

new mod fixes that for gen content at least imo

[native summit]

Potential man?

[atomic saffron]

it is but he does way more dmg than Mountain does and hits flying units to make up for it, also the dog can survive 2-3 hits from powerful enemies like Golems

iirc the dogs can permastall a golem with s1 and one of his modules

[abstract mauve]

100 extra def has been generally better than an rng dodge for most stages and it also gives a damage increase and also makes vigil prioritize things blocked by summons

[split sphinx]

So the payoff is at e2 mod. Idk about this

[gray mulch]

Damb tiger man got mogged by meme welfare fr?

[atomic saffron]

Vigil isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be, thought you need to invest in his modules to get an operator that at the end of the day is still on the weaker half of the spectrum

[turbid ocean]

I mean they're both stuck in general because they will get stat checked in harder content
I am hard pressed to find uses except for the fact that tacticians have tech and util

[echo venture]

incredible

[native summit]

Potential Man smh

[split sphinx]

Lumen get slandered to hell for taking e2 mod to function

[atomic saffron]

people talk about Lumen?

[native summit]

Because due to how therapist branch works

[echo venture]

i think a newbie will benefit a lot more from an e1 mountain s2

[turbid ocean]

Well newbies not building Lumen or Vigil the context is different

[atomic saffron]

ye if its recommending newbies then Mountain is a pretty great E1 low level unit

[proper robin]

for raidians handheld console relic (the one where each summon gives all summons +100 atk/def), do lings big dragons ones count as 2 summons or just 1

[abstract mauve]

very often in this channel because new player love talking about lumen since they hear about him

[native summit]

S3 is good AFK healing

[split sphinx]

Who gone unironically use vigil but newbies you got bigger and better things to use when your account is developed

[severe crypt]

“Good”

[native summit]

What?

Isn't it like 700 ish with extra attack speed?

[gray mulch]

We got better healers now unfortunately

[celest vortex]

should i get kroos2, am only on episode 2

[abstract mauve]

that's fair ye. it's a role that is fulfilled well enough by mountain till they eventually swap them out for some half decent 6* later

[split sphinx]

Great free unit

[wild cedar]

Someone who likes the operator I guess?

[gray mulch]

There's a lot of vigil simps I see him basically every maleknights video

[echo venture]

i mean nothing wrong with that. but the original question was comparing e2ing mountain or save for sakiko

[celest vortex]

alr thanks

[native summit]

921 healing is bad? Also attack speed too

[wild cedar]

Use your red little disc anyway, they’re refreshing in a day

[proper robin]

do wisadel shadows count as a summon

[abstract mauve]

spot the odd one out

[oblique cypress]

lumen has wide range

[clever geyser]

Is there any kind of unit with like a teleport?

Brainstorming tech with vampire girls s2.

[turbid ocean]

Attack stat means nothing

[turbid ocean]

Well, people often use with FRDs

[gray mulch]

Ulpi

[clever geyser]

Funky Relaxing Ducks?

[turbid ocean]

Fast Redeploys

Like Gravel

[split sphinx]

Therapists are hoed by their whopping 2.85 interval

[gray mulch]

The meme is to use with crownslayer

[turbid ocean]

Almost all medics have 2.85 interval
The only exception is Incantation at like 1.6

[clever geyser]

Taking notes. Thank you gang.

[abstract mauve]

therapist problem is that they havent had a new relevant therapist not that there is an inherent weakness with the class

[oblique cypress]

okay but what about their strength of big range

[turbid ocean]

Talking about archetypes is kind of pointless in this day and time given all the good ops just ignore archetype restrictions

[gray mulch]

Lumen is still good for the niche where therapist is relevant

[copper schooner]

do we spend the purple cert on mats?

[oblique cypress]

see the joke here is that therapists are never relevant

[turbid ocean]

orundum then mats

[copper schooner]

oh okay

[native summit]

Didn't fall off that much compared to Eyja2 or Haruka huh

[gray mulch]

So the problem is there is a lack of relevant content, not that there is a lack of new therapist imo

[copper schooner]

do the purple cert store ever reset or is it just there till we buy everything

[oblique cypress]

does this guy know glueless

[turbid ocean]

Eyja Mon3tr and Haruka all have util too

Lumen might as well have none

[split sphinx]

Right. ptilopsis cook cause high interval reduction, or silence with drone hps, or haruka not being a medic

[turbid ocean]

Yes... singular stat doesn't matter

[gray mulch]

More orundum gets added it doesn't reset

[copper schooner]

oh nice

Isn't lumen 1 niche he remove status condition

[orchid kite]

Is gg in cert shop worth getting for yu lapp² monster combo

[native summit]

In other words, he got powercrept rather than "bad"

Well it is what it is

[abstract mauve]

you'd have to blissfully be ignoring the fact that 1. haruka and eyjalter cost less DP 2. eyjalter has 2 targets haruka has 3 targets 3. haruka in particular has an insanely more relevant niche of 30% sanctuary and eyjalter deletes a mechanic from the game meanwhile lumen has an afk skill that can get disabled by the virtue of the stage being a little chilly

[severe crypt]

He just has way too much competition from even 4 stars

[proven kelp]

Does Lumen actually have a niche

I remember hearing Ceylon having a niche than Lumen

[proper robin]

status removal

[gray mulch]

They're the same niche except lumen is better at it..?

[abstract mauve]

you have to go out of your way to find stages where his status removal isnt an active detriment to his effectiveness

[copper schooner]

ceylon is status resistance

[severe crypt]

Is status removal really allat these days

[copper schooner]

status removal when was the last time we needed it

[gray mulch]

Lumen also has resistance but he also has removal on s3

[split sphinx]

Cold weather make lumen s3 not unlimited 💔

[fiery canopy]

status removal is allat yes

[proven kelp]

I remember Ceylon has that niche in IS3 where her AoE status resistance is actually useful

[dense dawn]

Who is this character circled in red

[gray mulch]

Lumen has it on s1 too...

[frank talon]

Is saltfin graveyard based off of thorns alter event?

[native summit]

Well OPs get crept eventually

[fiery canopy]

yes

[native summit]

No guarantee Haruka would last forever

[copper schooner]

didn't people draft 4 star elemental medic in is3

[fiery canopy]

uh supports are less likely to get powercrept

[humble nova]

can sanctuaries stack from each operator?

[proven kelp]

@copper oracle there was a niche use for Ceylon on IS3 for her AoE status res right? Can Lumen also be used for that strat

[clever geyser]

Okay so now I want Ulpi to use with Vampire girl.

How tricky would he be to get?

[native summit]

They shouldn't

[gray mulch]

I used lumen for that ending all the time

[proven kelp]

Have you try clicking it

[abstract mauve]

i heard whisperain was used for that in izumik stage but idk

[proven kelp]

Oh right, Whis
Not Ceylon

[frank talon]

If you want him wait for him to rate up

[humble nova]

i dont think theres a counter showing the amount of sanctuaries stacked on an operator when activating haruka and querces skill

[proven kelp]

Did you try to actually click it and read?

[copper schooner]

whisperrain s1?

[native summit]

Oh Whisperain, isn't her S2 the first before Lumen S3?

[humble nova]

yes and..?

[tiny abyss]

@humble nova

[proven kelp]

Click Sanctuary....
That's not clicking

[humble nova]

OHHH.....

[young glacier]

Sanctuary as effect states if you open pop up on any of them is highest take effect. It does stack with shit like Gladiia talent, reduce damage taken defender mods, Stainless S3 summon passives...

[uneven carbon]

is there anywhere in this server where i can find the invite for the endfield official discord?

[native summit]

Gladiia is worded differently so they stack

[gray mulch]

Ceylon is the one with status resistance to all in range on s2
Whisperrain has better healing, gives hot which gives lingering status res
Lumen s1 heals in a 3x3 area around target giving status res to multiple if grouped

[young glacier]

I know i just 2 steps ahead of everyone because i stacked Gladiia Stainless on chapter 11 without any of that knowledge (literally "F around and find out")

[native summit]

You just gave me an idea

What if I put Gladiia with Specter as tank and then have Haruka buff bubbles

[humble nova]

is it possible to get name changer voucher for free? Like if the game provides it in events or every year?

[grizzled shale]

Do we have a schedule for upcoming banners?

[gray mulch]

The free voucher gets refreshed in shop

[tiny abyss]

It does get refreshed but Idk when

[gray mulch]

#bot-spam /cnbanner

[humble nova]

gotcha

[young glacier]

We know what is coming generally as we follow CN server, exact dates are not set in stone unless in #game-news and speculation/leaks are not allowed

[gray mulch]

It won't be the exact same banners and the schedule will be slightly diff yeah

[native summit]

Ah fuck it's 5:30 AM and I still haven't slept

[turbid ocean]

Not the place to blog about it keep commentary to gameplay

[proper robin]

does toss tongbao options in wish fulfilled nodes count towards tongbaos with multiple toss effects? (like flower coin cocoon silk)

[copper schooner]

they gave ho ol an IS mod

[gray mulch]

I don't think so. Also doesn't trigger one time "on toss" effects

[severe crypt]

She still shit 🥹

[proper robin]

ty

[copper schooner]

yeah I figured

[native summit]

Potential woman?

[wild cedar]

It’s not that bad I don’t think

[abstract mauve]

i remember it being that bad

[severe crypt]

She’s like the current worst standard banner op

[proper robin]

dusk and hool is mods are both super meh, funnily gnosis is mod (same patch as hool) is amazing

[copper schooner]

tell me it not that bad

[severe crypt]

This basically expects leaks

[abstract mauve]

hool IS mod is like imagine if we made angelina's IS mod a one time usage effect and you have to leak to proc it

[proper robin]

i wouldnt draft hool when logos gg lappalter, even click exist

[young glacier]

Sounds like shitpost tier for me Funny if you have IS moduled Ange in proximity

[trim bough]

So just asking but
If i alrdy have logos and eyjafjalla can i still get goldenglow or no need

[wild cedar]

Her skill added levitation as well bruh

[copper schooner]

they were on something when making this mod fo sure

[craggy stirrup]

if ur a global range skill enthusiast go ahead
she'd be funny to pair with lappalter + yu

[gray mulch]

#r-i-i-c

[craggy stirrup]

oh mb

[gray mulch]

Check their pins

[young glacier]

You dont have to, but if it is what you want to spend gold certs for i am not stopping you

[toxic stump]

Is entelechia good? Or worth building like mlynar

[abstract mauve]

hool already had levitation baked in. it doesnt change really change that

[copper schooner]

doesn't levitate make it so normal ops can't hit them

[gray mulch]

Not close to mlynar level but will be decent after new mod comes

[oblique haven]

are we thinking spend excess data contracts on kichesei to get yellow certs, or just use them for materials?

[proper robin]

even without yu/lappalter shes still good, both s2 and s3 have good usage, i saw someone using s2 to afk at s 4 cm recently, s3 is great in is

[lavish monolith]

@craggy stirrup byro for gold comp.

[solid cipher]

Deym. I didn't know aciddrop is stacked

[toxic stump]

Gotcha thanks 4 the info

[clever geyser]

Did something happen to pins in help? I only see two pinned messages. I thought there was more yesterday.

[wild cedar]

Not skill 2, and I believe that is the skill used with the IS Mod

[abstract mauve]

they restructered it. everything that was there is still there you just access it differently

[solid cipher]

Oh. Wrong channel lmak

[clever geyser]

Oh okay.

[gilded cloak]

Arturia is getting kicked out of the offrate 5x in the anniversary banner after Silverash's?

[young glacier]

I guess me being idiot who can't notice "Useful links" hyperlink because i look on big bold CURRENT EVENT earlier today helped

[gray mulch]

Does someone have that mspaint graphic?

[trim bough]

Aight thanksu :pepenod

[oblique haven]

is it better to use headhunting data contracts on yellow certs via kichesei purchases, or just save em for mats?

[tribal cosmos]

Best tag ?

[oblique haven]

sanity wise it would be farming rocks for pulls vs farming for mats and getting more yellow certs

[gray mulch]

Then I think saving to buy mats is better

You can buy about 6 t4 mats with 1 kichi buy

[gilded cloak]

I feel like it's hard to place a value on resources that help you get pulls for limited banners, but each yellow certificate is basically 90 orundum if you buy pulls with them and rock farming is 1 sanity per orundum

[young glacier]

It is Senior tag, don't downgrade best doggo

[proper robin]

sidenote for ggchan in IS, i havent drafted her in is6 yet, shes more of a win more conditional on good relics (mainly aspd ones, kinda like how you only draft passenger with risk coin +2 sp when you deal dmg), so i dont think you need to pull/buy her if you only play is, but shes very solid and among top 3-4 casters imo (logos, lappalter, ggchan, ceobe* for cc)

[oblique haven]

woops i didnt see that properly

[lavish monolith]

tbh, ill just do melee spec + so for a chance of waaifu. unless you want red, kafka, mayer or glaucus

[abstract mauve]

the 5x rate ups should be virtuosa wisadel and lappalter

[tribal cosmos]

Thx

[humble nova]

when does narantuya's module come in?

[oblique haven]

patches usually come in ~6 months after cn, unless they decide to ship it with an earlier patch for some reason

[gilded cloak]

that would be for the silverash banner but the anniversary banner after would replace virtuosa?

[humble nova]

okay noted, but what event/patch* does she come in in?

[oblique haven]

released with chapter 16, 2025/10/09 on cn

[humble nova]

oo ok 👌

[gilded cloak]

Worst part is that I saw it and then I copied it and overwrote it with another copypaste

[abstract mauve]

it used to be pinned but i cant find it anymore. probably cuz outdated but ye

[gilded cloak]

I'm assuming the boosted offrates are in order of how recent the limited operators are

[tiny abyss]

#friend-id

[split bronze]

ty

[abstract mauve]

they generally keep 3 5x rate ups based on how recent they are. that doodle graph showed it more clearly but ye

[random shard]

Limited banner with z > one year later z will be a 5x on y banner

[craggy stirrup]

ooh tyty

[gilded cloak]

so wis'adel is unlikely to explode after silverash's banner and a crazy person could still reroll for her?

[craggy stirrup]

Yyup people do that

[young glacier]

Rerolling for 2.5%/0.5% from 2% is uh... Well people do people

[gilded cloak]

is it really so bad? You get the 10 pull which I think allows you to skip the forced unskippable initial pulls

[coarse notch]

you have a 18.4% chance of getting wisadel after 300 pulls

so uh good luck

[worldly sky]

is it worth it to get reception room to 3 for the texas quest

[coarse notch]

hell no

[craggy stirrup]

Nnnot really unless u wanna put support units

[young glacier]

If he rerolls chance to land 2% from free 10 pull of limited banner is around 18% as well (just 6* not specific, have fun)

[gilded cloak]

I fell for the timer and did it :(

[coarse notch]

the timer wasnt even for the missions

[gilded cloak]

I know but I was paranoid and it's kinda misleading

[young glacier]

Agree on misleading part

[worldly sky]

https://www.krooster.com/u/alive-honey-raven-24ca

any1 here I should get mod for if im plannin on getting sakiko as wel?

[wild cedar]

Haruka mod lv1 is good. You didn’t ask but E1 quartz for the base

[worldly sky]

ty

anyone else i need to e1 for base?

[lavish monolith]

Haruka mod1 and hoshi mod2, could go for mod3 since she will be your main dps for a while. Also, always go for sl7 at minimum

[worldly sky]

hoshi alter mod2?

[wild cedar]

Hoshi doesn’t have mod right now

[lavish monolith]

Later

[worldly sky]

yeah thats why i was confused

[lavish monolith]

She got her mod on the upcoming update.

[rustic cloak]

Five star wide whom should I be focusing on? No clue so I've just did ones I thought would help me with stages but don't want to waste too many more resources. Lmao

[worldly sky]

feb 10th? or the one after

[lavish monolith]

Its on SA alter event iirc

[worldly sky]

alright so ill wait till feb 10th then before modding anyone

[lavish monolith]

So after.

[worldly sky]

oh wait yeah

[gilded cloak]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=301545366#gid=301545366 (Purestream, Yato, Castle-3 are some)

[worldly sky]

ty, i dont think I have the ones u listed yet except for yato

[winter mulch]

is AT-EX-8 CM even possible without having a full squad of maxed 6* units? I can barely kill the boss in normal mode with a support Wisadel and Lemuen who shoots Mifune with her S2 for the entire duration of the stage

[gilded cloak]

Castle-3 is a 1-star bot guard but them and yato are capped at level 30 to reach their base upgrades

[wild cedar]

It is, I’ll throw a link

[lavish monolith]

Purestream is free on recruitment. Just find the one with tag support healing.

[true fog]

How would you start to prioritise upgrading my current main team. Who should I be pulling on and swapping out? Tha ks

[crisp dawn]

module

[gilded cloak]

Spending recruitment vouchers to get bots might be a waste because they seem kinda rare, but it is a very low investment if you do have castle-3 already

[worldly sky]

👍

[true fog]

Yeah I've started to work on the remaining ones recently 🙂

[fluid star]

Should I lvl up chalter or yu

[turbid ocean]

Yu

[wild cedar]

https://b23.tv/Ft8xo3o

[worldly sky]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/alive-honey-raven-24ca
is it worth it for me to try to get goldenglow after sakiko btw? all my dps units are ground

[fluid star]

Alr

[crisp dawn]

mlynar mod3 top prio, probably replacing mountain and eyja1 soon

[gilded cloak]

There are a couple bugs where you can get him to commit crownslayer and that is unironically what i did for that unblockable stat wall of a boss

[shadow bay]

nope

gg so low prio for certing even in blind roster

[patent harbor]

Do we know if during silver ash alter banner there will be packs in the store featuring 6 star selectors or anything like that? Or in case this question falls under leaks category lmk I'll delete it.

[shadow bay]

unless ofc ur oh so desperate for a high rarity caster

[boreal steeple]

Get modules on yato alter and mlynar

[fathom nest]

1. we don't know if GG will be here when Yostar releases Sakiko
2. no

[gray mulch]

Many solutions for this https://youtu.be/dLA1L5smucA?si=3bube5Pc1RZrKvV5

[shadow bay]

sashter event have 6 star selector yea

[worldly sky]

is a high rarity caster needed? a lot of kyostinvs videos have her so idk if i needed one

[patent harbor]

Do you know/can i see somewhere, what are the exact options? Many thanks

[fathom nest]

You can complete the entire game without using casters

[shadow bay]

nope... ull be fine event with steward/click

also, ill assume she is used on high investment/afk set ups

[worldly sky]

ic ty

[boreal steeple]

Some casters are doing the same job as goldenglow but she's not required as that. Pram alter gonna powercreep afk gg

[lavish monolith]

The $30 selector? Do you have the pool for that selector?

[shadow bay]

visit wiki

although selector in that time should be up to monster

[unkempt condor]

https://www.krooster.com/u/iapmadao

can someone give me the exact operators to put into my base
I run a 2-4-3 setup
im only making ~32k lmd everyday

[shadow bay]

try at #r-i-i-c

also mostly here run at 252 so uhhh

[fathom nest]

Check out the combo guide in #r-i-i-c pins
Raise your Shamare and Tequila

[unkempt condor]

ye i messed up that a while back

[fathom nest]

You can convert

[severe crypt]

Max right 252 is still better

[floral jay]

What's Gnosis best skill for IS for when his mod comes out

[winter mulch]

I wonder if this is the intended solution, it almost feels like one since his stats are just beyond ridiculous

[ancient lotus]

S2

[quick jolt]

2 iirc

[quick jolt]

cube is s3 ever used

[floral jay]

Thxs

[ancient lotus]

Not that i know of rose

[quick jolt]

im building him too so

[gilded cloak]

you're probably meant to slow & bind spam him probably

[wild cedar]

How many percent of the players actually have unmaxed right 252?

[patent harbor]

There does not seem to be any mention of store offers on the wiki page of SA's event. Where exactly do i find that part?

[fathom nest]

Not many. Always falling for the pinboard mission trap

[quick jolt]

generally events that havent released on global will have much less info, but that person is correct anyway. itll be up to mon3tr

[shadow bay]

no way gnosis is now m9 angle????

[boreal steeple]

It's too juicy, my ocd cant

[fathom nest]

Texas blows

🥹

[formal shadow]

is that true? then i'm IN!

[shadow bay]

i dunno young sir in 2022 Texas is indeed appetizing

[gilded cloak]

I've only ever used texas once 😭 for the hitcount enemy annihilation stage and she wasn't even the best choice

[fathom nest]

I'm so sorry

[ancient lintel]

the free 5* bait

[oblique cypress]

if only ardanis was here to say something

[severe crypt]

He’d just say “bagpipe on top” or smth

[shadow bay]

rbp would channel ard trust

[severe crypt]

Fuh naw

[patent harbor]

So just all non-limited characters before M3 and i'm free to pick anyone? Iirc last packs i saw were featuring something like a 33% chance between 3 characters. This time its different?

[shadow bay]

oh yeh back to gnosis IS mod

i still assume his s1 still unused???

[quick jolt]

that pack isnt the same as the general 6star selector. but yes the one sold on silveralt will allow you to pick anyone you want guaranteed

[ancient lotus]

Its different, you can just select an operator and get them

[patent harbor]

Many thanks everyone

[formal shadow]

np yw

[fathom nest]

Even with extra sp and shit I still can't think of a reason you'd use it over s2

[queen hearth]

is silver alt better than ines?

[ancient lotus]

Context dependent

[fathom nest]

Overall, no

[quick jolt]

in general no but he is used for different reasons

[fathom nest]

Ines just does too much

[gilded cloak]

but what if you used them together and used muelsyse to give everyone 2 silver slash...

[quick jolt]

pretty overkill

[formal shadow]

2 less possible dps slots

[boreal steeple]

Ines does what many ops can't do in 1. Salter is just laneholding and good early damage with s2 and deploying dmg

[shadow bay]

congrats u don't have problem with dp and early waves now

[gray mulch]

Vanguardknights

[quick jolt]

for most gen content you can probably just pick one between the two lol

[boreal steeple]

It just depends how you gonna use it

[fathom nest]

For most gen content you don't need a vanguard at all

[quick jolt]

very true

[oblique cypress]

sashalt would fit in my tactfort team better than ines

[thorny edge]

true
invis reveal at e1

[gray mulch]

Ines is my frd posing as a vg actually

[quick jolt]

does silveralt actually use s3 anywhere in is6, i havent seen much of him using any skill besides s2

[ancient lotus]

Yes when you lack dp generation

[quick jolt]

do you generally pick him and an agent

[wild cedar]

Daily S3, IS S2

[orchid kite]

Is gg not worth getting from cert shop?

[shadow bay]

nop

[thorny edge]

save ur certs

[ancient lotus]

Sure, but nowadays its SA into Myrtle and then possibly agent

[quick jolt]

agents optional now 🥹

[shadow bay]

what would happen to wanqing when his record restore come up???

[ancient lotus]

Ed5 got hands

[thorny edge]

agents powercreep is crazy

[abstract mauve]

agents being hyperglazed is also crazy

[quick jolt]

ines fell off after is4

[orchid kite]

I have a decent bit rn also how many green certs would I need to completely clear out the 2nd layer of the shop

[thorny edge]

no idea but its quite a lot

[quick jolt]

ill still glaze her though

[orchid kite]

I have 8k atm is it enough

[boreal steeple]

S3 is kinda crazy when doing challenges with increased dp cost which is funny to me. Overall i just choose s2

[orchid kite]

Yikes so itd be 10k+?

[thorny edge]

theres quite a lot

[shadow bay]

thats what i have in mind yeh, u can calc it ingame

[orchid kite]

[gray mulch]

Why would you wanna clear out t2 anyways t3 sucks

[orchid kite]

Orundummmm

[ancient lotus]

its not worth it.

[wild cedar]

To be honest in my opinion sash alt is better in dailies and IS, where ines is better in CC

[quick jolt]

clearing out t2 means buying the 4star and 3star selectors

and then dogshit cert>orundum conversion rate

[severe crypt]

Since when was sashter batter in gen content

[thorny edge]

batter up

[ancient lotus]

Silverash S3 does feel extremely comfy in gen content imo

[quick jolt]

i mean its gen content

[fathom nest]

Can't imagine doing Regular Army without her

Sounds like absolute cancer

[severe crypt]

I have an abusive relationship with apple autocorrect

[quick jolt]

me neither but thats why the solution to regular army is refreshing it

[shadow bay]

skill issue should have resort to android

[quick jolt]

or just -5

[fathom nest]

True

[thorny edge]

i turned it off

[shadow bay]

ohh regular army is f3 alter boss? the uhh... mommy sanguich?

[fathom nest]

Should've hit him with the 🍰

[ancient lotus]

regular army is IS5 F5 stage

[quick jolt]

regular army is the is5 f5 stage with the big necrosis field in middle, bunch of ch8 drones, skullshatter, buffed W, etc

[proven kelp]

🍋

Damn
Pins looks so dreadful

[fathom nest]

Multiple bosses W and UFOs

Assassin assholes

Stage is awful

[shadow bay]

i should have continue reading the wiki in enemy list rather drawing conclusions upon seeing the map

[thorny edge]

ou i rmb that stage. actual cringe

[quick jolt]

its manageable but theres no reason to take it. no spike 🙄 get kings crown from it

[fathom nest]

Had to do something to unclog

[kind quarry]

can i spend red certificates on information fragments? if not, why?

[fathom nest]

Better to wait for a vignette to buy them

They're sold in the event shop

[ancient lotus]

no, because vignette events have them at a better value

[kind quarry]

oki tyvm

[quick jolt]

do we even have one upcoming?

[ancient lotus]

no 😉

[quick jolt]

usually they have one before new IS theme right

[ancient lotus]

yeah

[kind quarry]

that being?

[quick jolt]

dont know im not from the future

[kind quarry]

no i mean "IS theme"

[fathom nest]

Integrated Strategies

[quick jolt]

integrated strategies. it currently has 5 themes available and they add a new one once a year

[silver smelt]

when did cn get is6 dlc1?

[dapper canopy]

integrated strategies is the roguelike mode

[kind quarry]

okok tysm

[quick jolt]

mid october

[fathom nest]

5 available but the last one is 6 due to the first one being a temp event

[silver smelt]

dang ok

[quick jolt]

dont wanna start speculating dates but expansions usually release in 3 month gaps so.. maybe another month or month and a half

[leaden kettle]

is there a list of good 4* and below operators that are worth investing in for the story and IS?

[dapper canopy]

in the #is-station channel on the pins

but a few good ones are purestream, humus, windscoot, I guess indigo but I think you have to invest too much for her to become useful

[ancient lotus]

dont think its there anymore, reference these:
https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/
https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/low-rarity-recommendations/

[dapper canopy]

gummy is giga strong and gravel is used for stalling the ed1 boss

[quick jolt]

if you're doing is2-4 just build kroos spot fang

[runic cipher]

may

[quick jolt]

maybe ansel

[dapper canopy]

oh ethan, who could forget

[kind quarry]

guys if i wanna pay attention to the story do u have any tips on like order or events and things like that? just tips in general

[leaden kettle]

thanks!

[quick jolt]

you can read in release order. there are options at the top right of the score tab where you can sort events by release date

[pine plover]

they are tuned to be read in release order rather than chronologically

[kind quarry]

okii tyvm

[nocturne sierra]

what are the best 6 star operators to choose in the kernel locating? i heard surtr is good but i'm not sure

[quick jolt]

wow what the fuck happened to pins lol

[fiery canopy]

i was hungry

[shadow bay]

where are the infographics???

although kernel is mostly filled with niche units, so uhhh... if ur certing kernel it means u have clear usage for the unit yeh

[kind quarry]

"fantasy in the mirage" being the last one?

[shadow bay]

also u dont have the recent 6 star selector given this anniversary??? it should have surtr yeh

[nocturne sierra]

are there infographics for it? i was looking on google but couldn't find one for this specific kernel locator

as far as pulling on it i just saw i had a 10 pull for kernel locator lol

[shadow bay]

we have it in pins but uhhh.... something happened

[nocturne sierra]

oh true, would be bad value indeed, is surtr the best pick from that one lol

[leaden kettle]

sorry what do you mean by score tab?

[quick jolt]

there was an infographic on kernel units but i cant find it anymore

[fiery canopy]

alina talulah mentioned

[shadow bay]

@nocturne sierra

[quick jolt]

its the first tab in terminal. it contains all main story chapters and past events

[fathom nest]

I put it in the pin for now

For quicker reference

[nocturne sierra]

so ig pick ceobe and kal'tsit for now and hope i get lucky off this 1 10 pull thing i have lol

[shadow bay]

she is if i say yeh

although some may argue eyja also in consideration if u have hoshialter, which is nice angle yeh

[nocturne sierra]

honestly i was just gonna blindly pick bagpipe because she looks cool but it seems like really bad value for my account lol

[pale tapir]

wifepipe is cool but definitely bad value and outdated

[quick jolt]

bagpipe is pretty useless, you can just pick up matsukiri from the ato event and he would probably be enough most of the time

[shadow bay]

1. she have little to no use in beginners account
2. her niche got washed coz other vg archetype just better

[pine plover]

alot of people got second hand disappointment for going for look instead of use

[nocturne sierra]

i doubt i would be able to grab that character with the state of my account rn 💔

[quick jolt]

should be very easy you only need to clear up to at-5

[nocturne sierra]

yea i figured, she does look cool but that's why i didn't choose her

[shadow bay]

just finish at-5 or something to get matsu

[gray mulch]

It's AT-4, even easier

[nocturne sierra]

i'm currently at like 2-4 lol but i should be able to grind and finish at-4 by the time the event ends

[quick jolt]

you got like a week yeah

[shadow bay]

i would invest the remaining time event is up in... the event itself yeh, u would need the items in event shop

[gray mulch]

If you're just first clearing you can clear everything with friend support. But I do recommend trying to farm it

[wild cedar]

Not quite, it’s only 4 days left

[nocturne sierra]

is this recommended? i have been trying to do everything without support so i can unlock the auto deploy for the main story

[gray mulch]

You won't be auto deploying 99% of main story

[nocturne sierra]

oh lol bruh been struggling for no reason 😭

[shadow bay]

u would only care clring stage if u need to farm it, coz u cant access auto stage when u use support

[gray mulch]

It's not bad to try to do it without support to better learn the game and your roster. But rn I'd recommend clearing event, with friend support if you can't do it without

[nocturne sierra]

so ig tl;dr grab surtr from top operator permit, grind event for the vanguard from there, and use support units for basically everything until i find a stage i need to grind

[clever geyser]

Okay. Didnt like Tequilla at first but has now definately sold me on him is Vampire girl s2 used on him is like a covert bomb.

[shadow bay]

grind event till it end if possible, u also wanna buy stuff in event shop... most likely things like lmd and exp

[pale tapir]

enchinchilla s2 has many unique and fun use cases yep yep
try using it with gravel too

[nocturne sierra]

gotcha ty for the help everyone

[clever geyser]

Yeah even though i was originally going for necromancer Necrass when rerolling im glad i got vampire Entelechia cause shes quickly becoming my favorite unit.

[wild cedar]

Ah nice

[quick jolt]

ive noticed lots of people dont like liberators at first, because you're used to your operators just always doing something. but they are often very reliable solutions when nothing else works

[split bronze]

who should I choose? I think I lack a good caster, but heard surtr is enough arts

[abstract mauve]

just get eyja. she'd still be valuable for your account and bagpipe is not used nowadays

[quick jolt]

eyja from the first selector, doesnt really matter from the second one but its between mountain/thorns

[gray mulch]

I'd pick eyja mountain

[abstract mauve]

me think thorns is still good for you

[quick jolt]

ig i would probably rather have thorns with that account

[abstract mauve]

ye that's my thought process. thorns still decent

[fiery canopy]

just wait 8 days and reroll for saki instead

[pine plover]

ch'en s1 afk stunlock

[abstract mauve]

dont reroll bruh

[quick jolt]

rerolling on an acc with multiple e2's and the anni selector that you cant get anymore is crazy

[pale tapir]

I would not reroll that account

[gray mulch]

Don't need reroll

[shadow bay]

lvl 90 sash... lvl 69 surtr... lvl 70 exu...

[pale tapir]

Blitz and Proviso too

[neat acorn]

What’s the tankies enemy in game

[quick jolt]

amiya boss is5 ending 5

[proven sinew]

Oh yeah do you need Angelica to be in your squad or does she needed to be deployed in battle for her attack speed passive to work?

[quick jolt]

well shes the tankiest in terms of defense and still has a lot of hp/res, but i guess the is6 ending 4 boss has MUCH more hp so like

[shadow bay]

listen listen listen

unblocked crocodile princess

[quick jolt]

unblocked chongyue. bro has 100% dodge!

[abstract mauve]

chongus also has DR when body parts present no?

[quick jolt]

no he has straight up invulnerability

[abstract mauve]

in 1st phase or 2nd phase?

[quick jolt]

1st

[shadow bay]

oh i have no idea about new is6 content atm, but deym 100% dodge

[quick jolt]

idk what the body parts do in 2nd phase besides spawning enemies and being a bitch to kill

[abstract mauve]

chongus is cooked lowkey

[split bronze]

why thorns is good?

[formal shadow]

he's not?

[quick jolt]

ranged ground dps

[fiery canopy]

ohhh right free proviso

[shadow bay]

also should be deployed

they will say something like "when on team" if its fine being in deployment zone to buff

example is... eyja talent when modded

[runic cipher]

ranged, fast atkspeed good damage+arts dps, slow self regend, hot

[abstract mauve]

for new player*. still here we recommend silverash over him from starter selector. when you take into consideration the context of the entire game, thorns isnt a good unit

[pine plover]

it litrally is a giant bluebox

[neat acorn]

What’s the most annoying boss

[formal shadow]

[quick jolt]

probably is6 ed5 maxed out

[split bronze]

so they dont overlap? as ranged guards?

[formal shadow]

rip cube trying to get that d18 clear

[runic cipher]

that one was whole mmorpg raid bos gang

[neat acorn]

[quick jolt]

no they do different things. thorns is sustained dps while silverash has a superior burst skill

[formal shadow]

for general content. Damatzi cluster imo

[shadow bay]

can i still do is6 ente start??? 🥹

[gray mulch]

Thorns has decent ST dps with DoT, and has elem dmg with new mod. But the upcoming collab unit sakiko has much better dmg and is the same subclass (lord)

[quick jolt]

yeah damazti is prob the most annoying non-is/ra boss

[split bronze]

maybe wait 4 her and then choose?

[pine plover]

actually yeah

[quick jolt]

i mean sure i guess yeah, the selector isnt going anywhere

[gray mulch]

You can guarantee her with 100 pulls (pity at 120 and 20 free pulls)

[split bronze]

okay thx 4 helping

[fathom nest]

Personally hated Duq'arael more but maybe just me

[fiery canopy]

what if i go into their acc and open it

[formal shadow]

I didn't struggle with h13-4 as much

[quick jolt]

going into your account and spending saki savings on kernel

[split bronze]

how to get that many pulls?

[gray mulch]

First clear everything you see, do annhilation

[shadow bay]

even more annoying than the bear??? 🐻

[quick jolt]

bear is deploy a protector defender

bro is solved by cuora and a medic

[split bronze]

using originium?

[abstract mauve]

duq'arael has a more annoying mechanic lowkey. nowadays against damatzi cluster, you can just haruka and suddenly the boss isnt doing shit to you

[wild cedar]

I have heard a saying that the bear makes new hoshi old and old hoshi new

[shadow bay]

duqarel... the vampire boss??

[fathom nest]

I just hit Cluster with the fish afk and was chillin

[shadow bay]

i only remember stage being annoying coz some slugs slipped by

[abstract mauve]

the bear does high physical damage. it can make ulpianus look like a coughing baby and nian as a hydrogen bomb. this isnt relevant in any way what so ever

[slim tusk]

dq'arael is a wuss
trag solo one of his stage

[gentle bluff]

Daily task, weekly task, first clear annihilation in lungmen downtown and outskirt give you extra originium aswell

[fathom nest]

Trag wasn't available when he released

[wild cedar]

That’s why people were talking about old hoshi bruh

[formal shadow]

I don't like drafting so many blockers. So having a boss that involves having multiple clones to block is :realmad:

[split bronze]

doesn't seem a lot of pulls, but I'll try

[abstract mauve]

mainly because it skill checked people who mindlessly place down ops and expect the stage to be beaten. you still have to play the game even with wisadel and gang. once you know his mechanics, he's like really easy

that's not to say that wisadel doesn't shit on him. she does. it's that you have to know how he works for that

[formal shadow]

that's a lot of bosses in this game. They usually have some gimmick that makes the fight easier once you learn it

[wild cedar]

I don’t even know what you’re taking about??? hoshi skill 2 makes her able to tank the bear

[abstract mauve]

he's suceptible to most crowd control and being blocked by a brick defender. 2 things that havent seen the light of day in a long ass time

[fathom nest]

Which bear are we talking about?

[shadow bay]

to note

just from dailies weeklies and greencert shop(we exclude t2 pulls for now), u van get 23 pulls per month

[formal shadow]

cocaine bear right? (ch16 boss)

[abstract mauve]

im assuming that from the hoshi vs hoshi2 mention ye

[wild cedar]

I assume the one in chapter 16?

[formal shadow]

bro I can't remember what chapter we're on

[fathom nest]

Oh right the robobear. Forgot all about that dude

[formal shadow]

very forgettable boss

[split bronze]

5 months for 100 pulls but saki is coming in 10 days

[abstract mauve]

you wont forget it when ch16 drops and questions flood this chat 😇

[formal shadow]

:dies:

[shadow bay]

if ur new u have a lot of stages u can farm with

like i said its just from dailies, weeklies and green cert shop

saki event herself give 20 pulls, not to mention the stages in event have

[wild cedar]

I am just wandering why are you sounding mad somehow and said what I said isn’t relevant

[coarse notch]

#arknights

[formal shadow]

he looks like the kind of boss that can be stalled by tragodia

[pale tapir]

our precious kokodayo can't be this strong
but yea next time post in #arknights or #salt-mines so mods don't get angy

[fathom nest]

Too late

[abstract mauve]

i didnt realize i was coming off as mad
just saying that hoshi is a brick while hoshi2 isnt. so the 1 boss where this is relevant, people are gonna make meme comparisons about it

hoshi2 s1 is technically a brick defender but that's besides the point. no one uses it anyway

[clever geyser]

I'm slowly learning to behave day by day. 👉 👈 People tell me to read rules but i learn on the job. 🫡

[formal shadow]

shouldn't hoshi2 be able to tank it regardless? I don't remember the bear doing that much damage

[quick jolt]

she cant

[ancient lintel]

Nah she cant

[abstract mauve]

she definitely cant

[undone portal]

if cuora can do it offskill im sure hoshialt s1 can do it on

[ancient lintel]

You need like 1k DEF or higher to tank the bear me thinks

[abstract mauve]

hoshialt s1 is ~1k def ye

[coarse notch]

how exactly are you planning on stacking a def recovery skill on that stage tho

[formal shadow]

yeah that's what I was getting at. Hoshialt s1 seems like it would be able to

Aak gaming

[abstract mauve]

nasti or stainless s2

[ancient lintel]

How do you chargw it though

[undone portal]

aak s2/3 charges it instantly

[coarse notch]

ah right war crimes

[abstract mauve]

also maybe stainless s3 with blemishine

[runic cipher]

with liskarm and aak or whole sui family

[undone portal]

aak alone is enough here

[formal shadow]

sword chen as well can do it

[ancient lintel]

Bringing exodia just to fight a bear

[undone portal]

he also stuns the bear for you

[shadow bay]

wow what a nasty bear

[runic cipher]

the bear in question can probably stand against exodia

[undone portal]

exodia includes nian. easy bear L

[astral bear]

didn't know they added exodia, do his body parts take up individual squad slots?

[runic cipher]

yes they do

[astral bear]

damn even exodia got power crept by trag what kinda world do we live in

[leaden kettle]

why does this happen when i recruit sometimes? i know the combination is possible

[fathom nest]

Just happens. Every tag except for top and senior can drop even if set to 9 hours

[leaden kettle]

ah okay didnt realise it was random

[turbid ocean]

And on top of that, sometimes the tag combination doesn't exist

Should've been dobberman though for this one

[leaden kettle]

was going for castle

but yeah either doberman or robot

[fathom nest]

Lower timer means more likely to drop

So probably why

[leaden kettle]

it seems robots are super hard to get right? or am i doing something wrong

[fathom nest]

The tag is fairly rare

[somber pawn]

is chongue worth m9, if not what skills do you want to focus?

[turbid pasture]

Hello guys I'm new in the game and i just have these operators, so my question is : is worth it to level up ebenholz and ifrit?

[leaden kettle]

so should i always just by doing 1hr timer for robots? or 3:50?

[fathom nest]

Ifrit yes, Eben ehh

I'd hold off on Eben

You have enough arts damage with Hoshi already

[gray mulch]

It's almost impossible to get robot without the tag, it's not worth the loss in green cert to try for it

[turbid pasture]

So how it works the art damage and the another damage?

Its like magic damage an physical damage?

[fathom nest]

There's physical and arts, yes

Two different damage formulas. One is reduced by def, the other by res

[pine plover]

def is flat, res is percentage

[turbid pasture]

Ok ok thanks

[bitter hornet]

lemuen or ray any good in SSS?

[fathom nest]

Lemuen is. Ray kinda meh due to not scaling well with aspd and being single target

[native cargo]

wht is better for beginner stay with lvl 3 base and prio max upgrd factories or upgrd to 4 to expand room for more factory

[bitter hornet]

what skill for lemuen? s3?

[wild cedar]

I believe you can’t really reach lv4 without enough levels from other facilities

[somber pawn]

Besides youtube, would there be any other good way to look up what skills and modules you would wanna get on a certain character?

[gray mulch]

Maybe ask #r-i-i-c but doesn't seem too important to me, you wanna max out base fast anyways

[turbid pasture]

For the banners mons3r will be on the banner soon but in 3 months I saw that there are a rerun of wisadel. It's better to save 300 pulla for her or get mons3r?(I don't have any decent healer)

[jovial urchin]

There's wiki.gg but this requires you to be the judge yourself

[shadow bay]

what banner monster will be???

although one for certain is, its not worth to spark even if its wisadel

[fathom nest]

Useful Links pin has module ratings and skill/mastery recommendations

[gray mulch]

If you're a spender mon3 will be in $30 selector.

[native cargo]

whose stronger healer mons3tr or haruka

[fathom nest]

Sparking is never the correct play, even for Wis'adel

[severe crypt]

Haruka is the better pure healer

[turbid pasture]

The orienteering banner

[shadow bay]

probably haruka

but monster have aspd buff while healing

[fathom nest]

Mon3tr is better, Haruka is just more consistent

[severe crypt]

Mon3tr does have the better buffs

[fathom nest]

60 aspd for free is crazy good

[clever geyser]

Okay i think i have my beginner roster charted out. So on day 5 ill pick up Silverash and on day 7 ill get Ptilopsis.

How far should i take Amiya?

Also is there any weaknesses to be identified in my roster? I think not having a meta dedicated caster and not having a meta archer maybe?

How far will this current team plus Silverash and Ptilopsis take me?

And outside of that for any big additions I think now I just save for Sakiko, Silverash Alter, and yellow certs.

Anyone have any last guiding thoughts or tips or unit pickups etx I should go for?

By the way thank you everyone for helping me these past couple days. I ask a lot of questions and really appreciate the insights.

[jovial urchin]

Using Mon3tr does require you to be mindful of your deployment though so there's that

[humble nova]

didnt he ask who the better "heal"er is? its haruka. But if u want more support utility, mon3tr for the aspd buffs.
or Haruka for extra durability due to 30% sanctuary aka dmg reduction with consistenthealing

[shadow bay]

hmm such banner isnt rly a good pull investment, coz ur still not guranteed to get a unit u want...

although banner is good if u want something new, given u dont have all the ops in the rate up

[jovial urchin]

Yea if healer then Haruka is better

[fathom nest]

If you want to be nitpicky then Mon3tr is still the better "healer"

Higher hps on skill along with the buffs

[turbid pasture]

So what is the best way to pull?

[fathom nest]

You pull strong ops as they debut

[gray mulch]

There's these coming up for yellow cert shop 👀

[clear dawn]

If i leave a trading post on lvl 2 for proviso, what other thing do i level up to lvl 3? I need it to upgrade base

[jovial urchin]

If we're talking skills then what about Haruka's S3?

[native cargo]

when u think nxt banner coming

[fathom nest]

It's much closer but Mon3tr still wins

I think it's around 950 or some shit

For hps

[clever geyser]

I literally want Ulpi for the s2 Ente memes. And who doesn't want Logos.... But i hear Logos probably ain't hitting cert shop for like 6 month-a-ronis...

[random shard]

You level a factory to 3

[gray mulch]

Official date already announced in bang dream twitter

[humble nova]

notice theres no reasoning with the ultimatum

[fathom nest]

That announcement is for Bandori only, not for us

[turbid pasture]

So it only worth to get an operator only on their debut?

[shadow bay]

most of the case

[turbid pasture]

Even for wisadel?

[clever geyser]

What is Bandori?

[fathom nest]

Bang Dream, another game

[shadow bay]

yeh

the problem with wisadel is... u need to sink large amount of pulls just to grab a copy of her

[clever geyser]

Ohhhh. Thank you, I see.

[jovial urchin]

She is strong, yes but 300 pulls for someone who is not even remotely required to finish the game's content is ehh

[shadow bay]

u can still chase for her... not like this chat cant stop u... it just making u aware its not recommended

[jovial urchin]

I mean if you like her then by all means

[humble nova]

the only time you'd spark is if your luck is shi

[native cargo]

does limited alters go back in banner

[turbid pasture]

But how it works the pity system and the sparking on this game?

[tiny abyss]

All limited go back in their banner type after a year

[shadow bay]

pins should have the info for that one yeh... we have infographics explaining diff type of banners

[lyric lagoon]

if you need more info on banners, go to pins -> useful links -> roadless camelot -> banner guide

[turbid pasture]

Thanks

[gray mulch]

Bring back mspaint graphic

[wild cedar]

I am surprised that this is a server that actually discouraged sparking (it just that I have seen a lot of different opinions lol)

[winter crystal]

Also 300 pulls for an op that’s getting close to 2 years old in a game that’s constantly power creeping it’s older ops is…not wise especially when it usually means you won’t be able to save enough pull currency to pull a few coming banners and the game only gives out a limited amount of readily available ori so spending a large chunk of it for one op isn’t wise.

Only way it makes sense is if you 💳 a lot then you can do what you want will little consequence

[jovial urchin]

Who's the artist?

[fathom nest]

neb

It was outdated so had to go

[shadow bay]

neb officialy gone now??? 🥹

[jovial urchin]

Not constant powercreep but yeah spending something something

[formal shadow]

banished to horse land

[silver smelt]

ngl i dont think you need to worry about powercreep

[polar totem]

is goldenglow good i just got her

[jovial urchin]

It was so peak

[formal shadow]

she's alright

[polar totem]

like how

[gray mulch]

She's comfy

[lyric lagoon]

not game breaking but a good op

[fathom nest]

Decently strong arts damage with global range

Also has an afk option albeit not as good

[shadow bay]

can only think gg nowadays as a funny sss carry

and ig global warming comp

[polar totem]

global range??? When do i get that

[fathom nest]

She needs to be elite 2 to unlock 3rd skill

[gray mulch]

E2

[tiny abyss]

Drone caster auto attacks twice right

[polar totem]

o

[severe crypt]

But global range really isn’t anything special

[gray mulch]

It's quite convenient in some maps

[jovial urchin]

With her. E1 can somewhat do this but every single Mech Accord casters (except minimalist iirc) can do this with their skills

[fathom nest]

Enemy needs to be in range for the drone to attach, but yeah

Technically

[jovial urchin]

Drone lock on is cool

Poor guy minimalist

[fathom nest]

Short peasant

[polar totem]

O

[wild cedar]

Not poor in stronghold protocol… or is he

[fathom nest]

He is one of the worst casters in the game lol

[wild cedar]

well then wait and see lol

[south fog]

Trogodia is limited?

[fathom nest]

No

[jovial urchin]

He's a standard banner unit, he will rerun

[humble nova]

honestly manipulating the waiting zone should be considered game breaking right, since its breaking/manipulating a game mechanic

[fathom nest]

You'd think so, but SAsh2 does it and he isn't considered very strong

[humble nova]

aw

[south fog]

Thats very good to hear so he have a chanse in the future to be on that tikets that we buy on the shoop right🤔

[quick jolt]

he will be

[fathom nest]

In another year and a half

[lyric lagoon]

it would be if dp was more of a problem, but it generally never is

[humble nova]

thats fair 😔

[tiny abyss]

Trag will also rerun first

[fathom nest]

Will need to see his next CC performance

[severe crypt]

Inb4 optimized out day1 🥹

[shadow bay]

vanguard ban risk trust

[south fog]

Not this year right i dont remember see him on the schedule 🤔

[fathom nest]

He will rerun this year

Just... much later

[tiny abyss]

He debuted like Nov last year

[jovial urchin]

Should be late this year

[spare jetty]

3x vg dp cost risk trust

[tiny abyss]

So should be this year

[wild cedar]

I doubt the hardest version of is6 5 ending is possible without him

[south fog]

Gonna take a look again on the schedule thank you guys and have a good night

[lyric lagoon]

vanguard dp cost up boutta just make “vanguards” from other classes more used

[coarse notch]

what schedule are you talking about

[fathom nest]

Probably /cnbanner or something

[oblique cypress]

waow its slop chat time of the day

[shadow bay]

w8 whats with sashter and him being absent make is6 ed5 impossible to clr??

[jovial urchin]

That's kinda niche no? Like you would pick Amiya for Quilon for a budget slow true damage option but outside of that, she's not even one of the strongest 5 stars

[fathom nest]

All day

[coarse notch]

well amiya is generically strong across is5 but niches is where all high end operators are tested anyways

[wild cedar]

Well fair enough

[earnest osprey]

Who to e2 next? Struggling at chapter 7 cuz of dogs @-@

[tiny abyss]

The dog rush level

[fathom nest]

7-4 or 7-9?

[jovial urchin]

3 lanes dog rush?

[tiny abyss]

7-9 prob

[fathom nest]

Nothing Wis'adel can't fix

Hell, even Logos

[earnest osprey]

They're already leaking before i place my dps

[coarse notch]

more vanguards

[jovial urchin]

I heard Noir can somewhat fix the early rush

[fathom nest]

Vanguards that can block (not flags) and Noir Corne

[coarse notch]

vanguards or cheaper units, thats their whole job

[tiny abyss]

Vigil

[fathom nest]

[jovial urchin]

Dude's an expensive vanguard, can't even do his job

[earnest osprey]

This is the team i am using rn

Who to replace?

[fathom nest]

Would help to know which stage

[jovial urchin]

if 3 lanes dog rush I'm thinking of Crownslayer

[copper oracle]

no that was whisperain
izumik aoe stuns everything
whisperain status resist works even while shes stunned
lumen cannot work cos he cant cleanse while hes stunned

[jovial urchin]

What the fuck another common Lumen L

[severe crypt]

So lumen fraud

[pale tapir]

L(umen)

[fathom nest]

This has been widely known since his release

[severe crypt]

We need all the counter propaganda we can get 🥹

[earnest osprey]

7-16

[copper schooner]

was that her s1 or s2?

[coarse notch]

s2, and no one really tries to tank izumik acid nowadays anyways

[native cargo]

why my e1 operators still use skill 1 even i alr set their default in skill 2 in my games?

[severe crypt]

You need to set it in squad page

[native cargo]

oh

[jovial urchin]

Gotta change it in the squad, not in their upgrade interface

[tiny abyss]

Default only works when newly added

[severe crypt]

You would think they’d change that by now 🥹

[tiny abyss]

If already in squad, they use the skill they were using before

[native cargo]

alr thnks

[jovial urchin]

There's only one lane with high pressure. Place down your Vanguards and Wisadel. The other blue box only needs someone like Hoshiguma

[earnest osprey]

Ill try, tysm

[jovial urchin]

Fang or Myrtle down first (change the order if it's not working) and then get Wisadel out

[fathom nest]

Uhhhhh

[slim tusk]

7-16 and vg
dog will maul e1 vg

[pale tapir]

really? I'm doing it just fine with e1 bagpipe and e0 siege + perfumer
then retreat them and put down some real dps like hoshi

[jovial urchin]

I don't know but Fang E1 can tank that just fine

[fathom nest]

Just wait to put Hoshi down after using Wis skill so the mortars don't target the phantoms

[native cargo]

Whts worth to get here

[fathom nest]

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