help

[coral knot]

Also e2 Ptilo or Saria

And on the future e2 60 mod3 Gladiia

[proven abyss]

should i mod SA or save resource for leizialt?

[frail thunder]

save imo

[proven abyss]

aight ty

[frail thunder]

gladiaa is a free 6 star welfare

which uh personally while great with ulpipi not rly a priority

[coral knot]

She is a welfare and an Ulpianus support

Yes

[burnt tree]

any of these operator worth raising for IS?

[minor vessel]

I need LMD should I farm CE-6

[frail thunder]

nope

[frail thunder]

not really

[burnt tree]

i see, all shall remains in the gulag then

[coral knot]

4* are only valuable on IS5 and 6 cause they cost no hope

[median fable]

base is the main source of lmd/exp

[coral knot]

But these 12 are really not worth it

[median fable]

/base and /baseskill in #bot-spam for more info on it

[burnt tree]

4* are also valuable for me because i'm a new player lol (3 months in)

[median fable]

they are trash, you've just spread your resource thin with this plan of yours

[burnt tree]

what plan?

[median fable]

it's not like you're aiming to be a 4* only player. Even them would hardly raise things like myrrh or frostleaf

[median fable]

raising so many 4*

[burnt tree]

oh

beside the 12 unit shown there the rest of my 4* are all raised

my account look something like this so it might be a bit too late

[coral knot]

You really shouldnt be raising all these 4*

[ancient current]

holy dobermann

[coral knot]

Most 4* gets useless after some time

[undone portal]

dobermann/arene usage waow

[burnt tree]

a youtuber convince me it's a good raised 😭 (i tried her out, she's so bad)

[median fable]

4* for new player are nice because they are placeholder for better units that you'll get later. Atp I'm almost sure you're trolling though

[coral knot]

Why did you master Dobermann skill?

[undone portal]

shes a good raise if youre bringing 3stars 🥹

[minor vessel]

whats better to farm?

[ancient current]

[burnt tree]

no this is a genuine question though, since my account doesn't struggle with general content anymore (read: exu tragodia ines), all i'm focusing on is just IS5 & 6 optimization

[median fable]

we have an event with good sugar drop rates and infinite manga in shop

[ancient current]

i tried her with 3* squad in IS and it's so bad

[burnt tree]

but if those 4* are that bad to a point where they wouldn't be pick for IS a single time, then i'll leave them there

[undone portal]

its is, youre punching too high 🥹
dobermann is a 'i want to clear ex stages with 3stars for fun' build

[burnt tree]

she's still not good in that context, her dps with skill 2 is not good even in 3* context, and her buff while strong, are also not great for survivability or stall which 3* desperately need sometimes

[median fable]

my bad, you're actually not trolling. You just didn't listen to what people here told you previously

[median fable]

I'm pretty sure he was sarcastic

[undone portal]

yeah, for 3star contexts dobermanns own dps is still very negligible. shes there to buff kroos/steward

[burnt tree]

answer may change given extra context but i assume not in this case

so anyone here worth raising then?

(preferably someone that can be good without mod2 or 3)

[wooden creek]

so they still havent changed the event rerun name?

[ancient current]

hoe if you play IS
saria is fine if you don't have shu

[tidal pond]

Is it just me or is the hand of protraction kind of weak when compared to the other legendary relics? Like for example, undulation helps a lot with skill cycling whereas protraction kind of requires Exu 2 to be on the field for at least 30 seconds which isn't really happening outside of boss stages

[ancient current]

yes, yes it is

[burnt tree]

what's the is implication? s1 archetto spam?

[ancient current]

no, he works on his own

hoe s1 spam with aspd and relics

[burnt tree]

ah

[ancient current]

the only relevant hand is like, rumble

[ancient current]

they probably won't tbh

[proven kelp]

It's a sign that she's watching us

[median fable]

so trash that when you open/draft ops like Exu2 you're almost surely doing a talon run and not a lamp one
just to give more context, almost all the other hands are overshadowed by rumble (hence the flinger meta), undulation is mostly slop while mystery is kinda nice but still not on par with rumble. But yeah, protraction is kinda meh even compared to mystery/undulation

[tidal pond]

Are lamp runs viable without Walter then?

Bc I've been starting exu2 and going lamp

[median fable]

obv they are, mystery and undulation are completely viable. It's just that flinger comp is that strong that makes the others kinda seems like trash

[tidal pond]

Gotcha

[median fable]

it's like coughing baby vs nuclear bomb

[tidal pond]

Oh I just read rumble... It's just free +150% atk

[median fable]

add there high aspd and you kinda get why it's the meta

[idle finch]

When is the monthly squad changing?

[median fable]

the ones in is5? They are completed

[tidal pond]

Can e1 monter tank chaos or nah

[median fable]

ehm, e1 mon3tr can't tank at all

[idle finch]

This? It says monthly so don’t they change these every month?

[undone portal]

even e2 mon3tr kinda struggles to heal against emergency chaos, wouldnt risk it

[tidal pond]

I was asking whether she can outheal the poison

[turbid ocean]

Only ever 8 total per IS

[tidal pond]

K, thx

[spring cairn]

Whats more preferred in friends picks Logos S1 or S3?

[median fable]

she should iirc

[undone portal]

people usually borrow for s1 just for afk setups, but you should master s3 for general use

[brave karma]

how many outfits are in game? unobtainable ones included

[dense wasp]

You can check on wiki maybe

[brave karma]

it doesn't say the exact amount

[prisma thorn]

get to counting then

[silk current]

i have a rather stupid question

[brave karma]

thanks, one more person added to the block list

[silk current]

which modul is better for Thorns? like his first or second

[dense wasp]

Am i included😭

[brave karma]

no, you provided a possibility. i'm grateful for that even though it didn't help

[dense wasp]

Do u wanna buy all of the skins?

[ancient current]

i am not aware of any resources that says the amount of skins currently in the game
idk if prts.wiki has that info

[brave karma]

yeah. i'm wondering if 1.5 k originite prime is enough

[median fable]

should be around 385

[stark gulch]

does anyone here always have a large amount of green certs? one of my friends has 3k, another has 19k, and i have like 40, all of us buy materials we need in p2 greencert shop, im wondering if im doing anything wrong

[abstract mauve]

around 449

hermitzplanner has a gallery feature

[ancient current]

well, how much does each of you pull/do recruitment
that's the main factor

[median fable]

I counted wrong then lol

[abstract mauve]

ctrl f "1" then "2" then "3" then add them up

[ancient current]

oh i didnt know hermitzplanner had that
@echo venture ur more goated than i thought

[dense wasp]

449 and the cheapest skins usually cost 18 op

[abstract mauve]

15 op is the cheapest. a lot are free as well

[dense wasp]

Oh really?

[stark gulch]

i didn't ask them for specifics on how much they recruit, but i use 4-8 permits per day
as for pulls, me and my 3k friend have the same pull income and im p sure we've done pulls on the same banners for the past year or so, im not sure about the 19k friend but i know hes an orundum farmer so he has a higher pull income (3k and 19k is a pretty big gap though and im still sitting on no greencerts)

[dense wasp]

there's also expensive ones around 24 op, but the average is 21 op, so 449×21: 9.429 op, but the free one not included, lol

[ancient current]

there's also the skins from paid packs

[stark gulch]

isnt there only like 3 skins from paid packs?

[dense wasp]

Yeah true

[ancient current]

thats already 90 bucks lol, but yeah i think

[subtle flicker]

for crossover ops, if you dont get their potential up during the event the only way to do so afterward is the tokens from the certificate shop right?

[stark gulch]

9.4k op is definitely higher than the actual value
but, 1.5k op is definitely not enough for all the skins

[stark gulch]

there are other sources of tokens (like cc shop for example) but yeah the only way to raise a limited crossover op's potential is tokens if you didnt get pots from their banner

[abstract mauve]

there's skin gacha coming up in CN. that probably reduces the price significantly

[dense wasp]

I don't know how many free skins we have, so I just couted like that, so definitely less than 9.4k, but still many

[stark gulch]

considering 1.5k op would be equivalent to 100 15op skins, i think it's safe to say that its definitely not enough

[dense wasp]

Yeah

[stone karma]

Does upli need mod3?

[ancient current]

no

mod2/3 are useless ngl

[shadow bay]

do u count ones that locked behind merchs????

[stark gulch]

theres ones locked behing merchs ? i cant recall
i only remember the 3 skins you can get from the expensive packs

[ancient current]

then there's the CN exclusives

guardmiya, KFC

yadda yadda

[shadow bay]

lava and amiya skin are locked behind ummm... art book something

while the ones from kfc that are transfered to "rhodes kitchen" merch... iirc there 3 locked behind it

[abstract mauve]

kfc is merch exclusive

[ancient current]

oh it wasnt cn only?

[abstract mauve]

they removed the branding. ifrit skin was free. other skins were merch

[stark gulch]

huh TIL

[shadow bay]

we like to call it kfc merch

but they are branded as "rhodes kitchen"

[ancient current]

ok but the ones with removed branding aren't the same skins
not the same ones im talking about

💤

[stone karma]

What's the next banner after upli?

[ancient current]

we don't know yet

if we follow cn, next big banner is leizi2

[fossil fern]

is lvl 90 worth it for your best operators? like exualt or should you just keep them all at lvl 60?

[ancient current]

it isn't worth it

[young glacier]

While it provide more stats amount of material quite literally enough to almost e2 60 another operator

[ancient current]

mfw 5% stats for the same cost as e0 to e2

[fossil fern]

lol oke tysm!

[dense wasp]

Maybe kinda worth it if ur using tragodia to reach the break point, tho it's not lv90

[spring cairn]

What story is exu alter module from? Cant find it, for some reason i thought it was main chapters

[ancient current]

Guide Ahead

under The Blessed

[spring cairn]

Ahh i see, is it hard to get thru?

[ancient current]

nah, just borrow a carry if you can't do it

but with exualt already e2 it shouldn't be hard

[spring cairn]

Ok

[ancient current]

oh wait it's GA-EX-5 isn't it, not GA-5

yeah u can borrow a carry if ur struggling

[spring cairn]

Might be fine, dont even know what the events like yet as i havent started it

[shy cave]

opinions on narantuya in IS3? good or bad pick

[stone karma]

Is lin still worth leveling in today's meta?

[shadow bay]

she have use case but ehh she on lower prio to build

[odd sky]

pramalt

[stone karma]

Ah ok thx

Is proviso worth downgrading a tp at e0?

[odd sky]

are you 252

[stone karma]

Yea

It's scuffed 2/5/2 as my HR room is maxed

[kindred root]

What mod better for mountain s2

[stone karma]

now that i have extra energy, should i upgrade my exp factorys or my gold factorys

[rocky edge]

um how many orundum required for 10 pulls?

[frail thunder]

I would save the resources

[frail thunder]

34

Wait no 6000

I thought you meant

[kindred root]

No, what mod has better performance

[frail thunder]

One is for tankiness one is for damage, personally I’d go neither

[stone karma]

whats better lv 3 exp fact or lv 3 gold fact (i have proviso in tp)

[prime lichen]

Is the best trust Farm just like using the op in high sanity stages

[stark gulch]

i just use mod y cuz mod x only buffs his phys dodge

[wicked charm]

When is fest?

[vocal igloo]

What are you droning, and how much gold do you have, do you run out of gold?

[formal shadow]

jan 26

[stone karma]

i drone tp a bunch, and now that i have proviso, i will be spending my drones on provisos tp. i currently have 557 gold bars on me rn

[fiery canopy]

lvl 3 gold

[vocal igloo]

Proviso will eat that up, I’d probably lvl3 your gold fac unless you only have lvl2 exp facs.

[stone karma]

I have scuffed 2/5/2, since my office is at lv3, so both of my exp are on lv 2, but il upgrade gold tho since I do see gold becoming an issue

[vocal igloo]

As long as you can still produce the highest level of exp card

[somber coral]

how long is normal IS? cuz i've been doing montly missions and cannot figure it out

[stone karma]

I used to run 2/4/3, so they are still producing tier 3 exp

[ancient lintel]

like how long is it for every run?

[frail thunder]

Could you rephrase the question?

[stone karma]

So gold fact I get to lv3?

[somber coral]

I guess?

[ancient lintel]

maybe an hour
from personal experience it's around an hour, except IS5 cause there's a cheese for it

[somber coral]

a cheese?

[ancient lintel]

like a method that allows you to do it in 15 min instead of 1h
pardon me for my poor spelling

[somber coral]

how does that happens

[stone karma]

Is it f2p friendly?

[ancient lintel]

yes ofc it is lol

[copper schooner]

is kal is mod good?

[stone karma]

Enlighten me

[spare jetty]

ofc it is

[somber coral]

also how do I get exp in IS

[spare jetty]

farm

[ancient lintel]

lamp + blueprint, that's all imma say

[stone karma]

Ah got it

Welp time to stop farming is2 then

I'm not getting playwright ending anyways...

[ancient lintel]

U gotta play it normally instead of monthly/deep explore

[somber coral]

what is deep explore

[fiery canopy]

with wis borrow + any ranged unit start

1. Start with blueprint preferably with extra plans upgrade
2. Stay yellow toll at floor 1, refresh first two nodes to try and get encounter, else just fight
3. Get lamp, if u dont, restart
4. at floor 2, go on the direction of the scout node, and refresh all nodes for wish fulfilled for guaranteed kings relics and promote wisadel at scout node
5. u win

[somber coral]

cant wisadel do it in 20 minutes without weird stuff like that

[fiery canopy]

the sub 15 mins runs is because of refreshing nodes with blueprint

[signal dragon]

ery you can just tell people to read #is-station pins for lamp explanation, saves having to type it every time

[fiery canopy]

i just copy pasted it from what i said a while ago

[signal dragon]

fair

[ancient lintel]

yes you can lol, once you learn the mechanics

[vocal igloo]

Yeah do it for now then check your gold after a while

You can swap to exp when high on gold (1-2k+) and need more exp.

[crisp dawn]

How do you guarantee King’s

[spare jetty]

lamp

[crisp dawn]

No like does lamp guarantee you get kings at wish fulfilled if you have 1 hp or smth

[fiery canopy]

and being 1 hp at a wish fulfilled node

[fiery canopy]

ya tho some other stuff take priority over kings if u trigger their condition like hand

[crisp dawn]

Ah ic

[copper schooner]

what rosmotis main skill?

[severe crypt]

s2

[copper schooner]

thx

[frozen thorn]

which module should i use for mountain ?

[crisp dawn]

Who are the best non Hoederer IS5 guards

[balmy vale]

is there a particularly good Defender Training Skill?

[shadow bay]

my dum mind remember hoshi having 60% train boost

[arctic salmon]

Who do I replace for kroos2?

[crisp dawn]

Hoshi is 60, there’s a few random conditional 45, just use Logos and swap tbh

[trail drum]

Mylnar and ulpi

[severe crypt]

Didn’t ulpi fall off, pretty sure silver ash is up there

[signal dragon]

sakiko

[pseudo flume]

Ulpianus, Mylnar

I think Zuo Le has a use on Relicless

[trail drum]

Only if you know the proper strat

[frail thunder]

prolly kroos

[pseudo flume]

Lappland

[severe crypt]

even then, ulpi kinda needs certain relics, and doesnt gvg start with sa

[pseudo flume]

I noticed you have 4 Guards

[frail thunder]

no they dont, they have 5

[arctic salmon]

noir

[shadow bay]

or probably SA since he is e1 atm...

he have tequila for dps

[arctic salmon]

not noir?

[pseudo flume]

Close enough

[signal dragon]

noir fine as a cheap blocker

[shadow bay]

most likely noir is there to have something he can plug while he low on dp, like a vg

[pseudo flume]

You can drop Noir ig?

Since you do have Mountain

[magic venture]

Ulpi in IS5 is kinda hit or miss. If you get all the SP relics, he is good, if you dont and you get the "frozen upon deployment" relic (active in Bosky) he is pretty much useless. Also, Ulpi wants SP (both S2 and S3), like a lot of SP, but there are Necrosis fields everywhere in IS5, and those Necrosis fields trigger Necrosis Burst that reduces his SP so like..

Hoederer is better than him in IS5

[pseudo flume]

Arf they were looking for non-Hoederer Guards

[arctic salmon]

ok?

[fiery canopy]

saki

[magic venture]

Uh idk I'm not a fan of Guards in IS5, but Mlynar is better than Ulpi in my experience

[trail drum]

Tachanka

[spare jetty]

non hoed
cmon just dont play gvg

[spare jetty]

sub dps

u are basically playing gvg without its spinal cord

[hidden nacelle]

ulpi IS5 with deploy sp relics

[undone portal]

playing gvg in is5 has a user experience roughly equivalent to pulling teeth

draft hoe for ed4/archetto core or just dont bother

[leaden grotto]

Who shall I e 2 and is this team good

[magic venture]

Narantuya should be your first E2 there

As for good, it kinda is but err.. you seem to be under the impression than 5 Stars > 4 Stars

[quick jolt]

naran e2 over sa e2?

naran atleast has 2 other useable skills

[slim tusk]

e2 sa
don't run 2 flags
ditch whisperain

[shadow bay]

wow bro rly have dp issue to bring 3 vg

[buoyant karma]

Anyone here worth specializing a skill or buying module?

[frail thunder]

zuole is really strong if you know how to use him

with s3 and modx

[nocturne sandal]

give whoever's a mainstay on your team(s) both of those

[magic venture]

Casul typed for 10 mins for that sentence 😂

[nocturne sandal]

was typing for the above guy but decided not to

[buoyant karma]

i don't have a mainstay yet, i usually swap depending on the map or the enemies. Im looking for Ulpianus maybe to fill

[magic venture]

Why not lol

[shadow bay]

poor exalter raised but modless 🥹

[nocturne sandal]

other people alr said it faster

[buoyant karma]

i looove him and reapers but offensive recovery is just so annoying

[quick jolt]

modless zuole is the bigger problem

[buoyant karma]

what's so good aobut zuo le module? i raised him because i know he is strong but i rarely use him

[opaque wharf]

S3 isn't offensive-recovery, is it?

[quick jolt]

it takes him from mid to insanely good

[nocturne sandal]

it is

[buoyant karma]

it is

[frail thunder]

where are you need to be at 30% hp to have a x2sp, now you can just be at 50% hp and have like a 2.3 idk

[opaque wharf]

Bloody hell

[quick jolt]

modX lvl3

[buoyant karma]

i can buy modx already well thanks

What skill is more important with zuo le?

[quick jolt]

3=2
3 is technically the best

[proven kelp]

S3
S2 is not equal to s3 lol
Nor remotely similar

[buoyant karma]

oh i forgot you need trust for modules hate that mechanic

[quick jolt]

it kinda is its completely dependant
never said they were similar

[shadow bay]

i only use s2 when i need him to cut his hp to be abused

but then again those cases were ummm... just not use zuole or something

[astral bear]

what's the move here gamers

yolo?

[leaden grotto]

Should I replace Ely with earth spirit?

[frail thunder]

s2 is nice to use him for lane holding since he gets an extra block no?

[magic venture]

Errr no, not Earth Spirit

[shadow bay]

why earth??

[quick jolt]

and for when enemies arent able to get his hp low

[leaden grotto]

I don't have debuffers

What r good debuffers I don't have trag

[shadow bay]

u dont need debuffers, esp in ur stage of ur account

[frail thunder]

ionno what do you need or have

[magic venture]

Bring a Gravel, and bring more Defenders, not debuffer

[proven kelp]

S2 is just forcing Zuo on a role he is ass at, laneholding
Why bother using him at that point lmao, just use any other better Laneholder

S3 is better for his role of dueling

[shadow bay]

just add another dps of urs

or something like gravel for baiting

[astral bear]

don't need laners, i have saria + bagpipe, no sa

[magic venture]

Also that Amiya in your squad is kinda eh..

[quick jolt]

i wouldnt say hes ass at laneholding but sure yeah there are better options now

i mean ulpi exists

[slim tusk]

he is not ass at it but less effort exist

[chrome tiger]

If you already have mudrock mountain bagpipe then sure solo ig

[frail thunder]

man sometimes it gets tiring using the same bunch of laneholders over and over and over

[proven kelp]

It's ass cuz the amount of effort he uses lol

[astral bear]

gotcha

[regal phoenix]

anybody know of any unit that can self heal n do arts dmg like utage beside utage?

[chrome tiger]

Reedic

[proven kelp]

Reedic, Amiya

[regal phoenix]

ah ok.. incantation medics then

[slim tusk]

siderocca

[chrome tiger]

mizuki

[proven kelp]

Blemi

[quick jolt]

imagine effort being a problem 🙄

[delicate ibex]

I hear upcoming collab operator is preety good for IS. What skill does she usually use there?

[slim tusk]

eh

[chrome tiger]

1 and 3

[regal phoenix]

oh thats actually not bad

[past cloak]

Is ulpianius like the best laneholder?

[quick jolt]

shes good for like is5 specifically, not anything spectacular in others. s3

[slim tusk]

best laneholder is wis ril

[chrome tiger]

overall no

[past cloak]

That makes sense

[mental gull]

is ptilopsis and silence enough for JT8-3?

[delicate ibex]

While on this topic, is Hoshiguma alter any good in IS?

[chrome tiger]

borrow logos

[slim tusk]

if you don't over burden their healing,yes

[magic venture]

If you borrow a Wis sure

[chrome tiger]

his s3 will nullify the burst if timed right

[proven kelp]

Right, why would i care about using a mediocre lanehoder that you need to spam s2 every few seconds to be actually decent instead of just dumping ulpi on it

Hell even Galter is better, atleast she has better off skill capabilities

[quick jolt]

if your definition of laneholder is ground unit that blocks and kills enemies, sure. there are definitely better operators in the game that are capable of holding off a whole lane of enemies by themselves, lots of them are ranged units

[shadow bay]

to justify m6 zuole smh smh frfr

[slim tusk]

like if you have exu2 and retreat the rest even sussuro will solo sustain

[quick jolt]

fae i think you're just exaggerating, it really is not that bad lol

[chrome tiger]

the real tech here is that if you’re still calling them “laneholders” then it doesnt matter who you use the result is the same

[proven kelp]

I actually have standards

[shadow bay]

oh w8 ur talking about being bad??? i thought u all speaking about.... better options?

[delicate ibex]

Is Hoshiguma Alter any good in IS? And if so, what skills does she use?

[chrome tiger]

she’s very good in IS6 and decent in other ISs
S3 iirc

[vague wasp]

[edgy stone]

s3 and s2 ud wanna m3

[quick jolt]

questionable

[eternal spruce]

you cant convert blue to purple operator promotion chips?

[fathom nest]

No

[eternal spruce]

Oof

[past cloak]

Should I get Leixi even if I have ulpianius?

Or save for haruka

[woeful zodiac]

if no mlynar, its good to try to get her. if have mlynar you can consider skipping, but still better to get her also.

[past cloak]

Kay

[static bone]

heya, got the S3 ticket from IS5, who should i use it on here?

[woeful zodiac]

if ur low on pulls, pull for one 6 star and save up for haruka I guess is the plan.

[past cloak]

Kay

[thorny edge]

exu alter

[vague wasp]

Trag s2 cuz it's use piss prism 💀

[thorny edge]

o true

[static bone]

alright, not sure what that means but i do use his S2 a lot

[vague wasp]

Idk about you, but me yes

[coral knot]

Are Yato2 and Noir2 considered as alternate operators?

I am thinking about doing Hibiscus/Kross/Lava/Yato/Noir for CC

[slim tusk]

yes but it sucks

[woeful zodiac]

ye they're alt operator, but that CC is pretty useless

[slim tusk]

well yato and noir is good ig

[formal shadow]

I run that in offrotation (with another cc worker replacing kroos)

[vivid yew]

Which module for Ceobe? She is currently my only arts damage dealer

[woeful zodiac]

bread

[regal phoenix]

Who is highest dps arts unit? Logos?

[fiery canopy]

reedic

[formal shadow]

ceobe vs 1 mil def enemies :clueless:

[slim tusk]

reed s2

[magic venture]

Surtr with her hospital

[woeful zodiac]

that dps not high tho, it does last long 👀

[chilly canyon]

yo i don't have i don't do IS but i am curious

since dusk IS module specifies that the first attack creates a freeling BUT she attacks two targets with the module does that make two freelings or just the one

[woeful zodiac]

doesnt she make freeling with every attack with that mod ? so its two
she still sucks balls tho

[thorny edge]

i think surtr is only 3k ish

[chilly canyon]

The first attack after deployment will summon 'Freeling(s)'

the (s) makes me think it CAN but i am unsure

full stage 3 module

[formal shadow]

first attack 🚮

[crisp dawn]

How does mod work with S1

[woeful zodiac]

oh its worse than I remember. Eitherway, whether she summon two or one doesnt matter too much tbh. If two, still sucks ass, if one, sucks ass more.

[formal shadow]

first attack spawns freeling and then L bozo

[crisp dawn]

1 charge used for enhanced+normal?

[thorny edge]

freeling should've lasted indefinitely

[chilly canyon]

isn't that why shapers where made?

[chilly canyon]

it's the one attack just selects multiple targets so both would be enhanced i think

[formal shadow]

reminder that I'm still annoyed freeling don't scale with dusk's level :realmad:

[thorny edge]

yeah and she shouldve been one

[formal shadow]

curse of being an old ass op who gets little love

[crisp dawn]

Can I just yoink someone here’s IS mod Dust to test it 🙏

(s1 mod thing)

[woeful zodiac]

but she paints the freeling, not create one from corpse 🥹

[chilly canyon]

it's always funny when you see an operator thats bad or has falen out of favour gets a dedicated archtype to fix that persons issues LMAO

wait Dusk is outclassed in her role by her own sister LMAO

[woeful zodiac]

need some insane digging to find that one dusk lover with IS mod. or throw ur own 3 module bricks

[elder ermine]

is IS4 original Patriot weaker than story mode patriot?

[coral knot]

No

[magic venture]

Around there yea. Logos is 4k #help message people said she fell off, but tbh she is still pretty good in gen contents, just that there are more convenient picks nowadays

[crisp dawn]

rather unfortunately I do not have dusk

[coral knot]

Is enemies tends to be stronger than any mode enemy. Though if you are talking about CC patriot, he might be harder if you consider IS relics

[pale frigate]

when do you get the max stat bonus from trust

[proven kelp]

100

[crisp dawn]

200 for supports (I learned this the hard way with Tragodia )

[terse cove]

Does anyone experiencing can't log in in the game rn?

[formal shadow]

no

[terse cove]

Wth

[proven kelp]

If they do this channel would already be flooded by that question

[terse cove]

My connection is fine for everything else

[crisp dawn]

Try VPN ig? #tech-support

[terse cove]

Already

[proven kelp]

Have you tried turning off and on your phone

[terse cove]

Not yet, Ill try it

[wooden creek]

i have a question to the chapter 16 bear
when i understand this correctly it has an atk stat of 1000-1200 (at least in the first phase)
its attacks hit twice
upon dealing damage it inflicts 100% fragile

a maxed lin with module has an of skill atk stat of around 1055
with the shield it means she wont take damage from sources <= 1255
and in CCB3 i learned that "when dealing damage" effects apply when lin can block the damage

so wouldnt she alone completely trivialize the bears phase one?
i havent found any clears like this so im unsure if my logic is correct

also isnt the apple pie S2 + mr nithing strat also perfect for the bear?

[spare smelt]

any more base workers here i could e1

[frail thunder]

how beneficial will proviso e2 be in the long run

[fiery canopy]

very

[wooden creek]

zuo le is pretty good for masteries

[rotund snow]

Is this a good base set up or no?

[frail thunder]

aw man

[wooden creek]

153 is something i dint see for a long time

[spare smelt]

shouldve asked before maxing everything but uh not really

[humble nova]

how good is skadi?

[frail thunder]

you ideally want dorms to 1, 2 trading posts and 2 power plant i think

at least i go 252

[shadow bay]

girl found in a ditch 🥹

[rotund snow]

Oh okay then

[woeful zodiac]

do 252, go to #r-i-i-c and check pins for 252 max right video, follow that.

[terse cove]

It works, finally I can log in again, thanks, even though Idk what caused it.

[frail thunder]

imagine a physical texas alter with less damage and much longer redeployement

[ancient lotus]

yes mrnothing and exu is a 2 op clear

not too sure about lin tho

[humble nova]

that doesnt seem too bad.. I think

[ancient lotus]

in theory it works, maybe ill borrow and try

[woeful zodiac]

skadi is funny if you have -50% redeploy for 2s redeploy, but it ends at 'its funny'.

[wooden creek]

would be interesting to know

[fiery canopy]

sounds peak

[thorny edge]

no stun, no aoe

[wooden creek]

when you ever try could you ping me to let me know. or dm me

[spare smelt]

i wanna get lappalter, does she have a banner coming soon

[wooden creek]

got 4-5 months

[fiery canopy]

ur obligated to get her wife aswell btw

[coral knot]

She is now only sparkable or spooked on anni banner

[spare smelt]

shit alright

[copper oracle]

does the bear atk fast enough to stay still? like in ccb2 lin works cos the chirstmas tree enemy has enough atkspd that they spend all their time atking and never move

based on the clears i saw it doesnt seem like bear atks fast enough but i also cant say for sure

[wooden creek]

im unsure but i thought it just goes to whoever attacked it and attacks till it dies

though yes youre right. when it only attacks like once and then returns maybe that would be the flaw in my idea

[woeful zodiac]

👀 I know nothin bout bear other than silvergun killed it, but if it goes to whoever attacked, lin doesnt attack so isnt it joever ?

[coral knot]

Considering Hoshi can almost solo it, Lin might be able to

[woeful zodiac]

oh wait lin has shield on s3 right ? my ass know nothing about lin too lmao. just ignore me

[copper oracle]

ye if it works like that then lin should work

[copper oracle]

lin def is lowered on s3 but shield threshold is 3x

[wooden creek]

lin doesnt atk offskill but my calculations for the shield are also of skill

[oak shale]

Either nightingale module worth a darn?

[woeful zodiac]

oh ic.

[chrome tiger]

It doesnt but it stays around so

[wooden creek]

so like just use s1 ore something. shouldn matter as long as you can atk it fast enough to taunt it once and then have it off skill again

[woeful zodiac]

that one tile range bonus is pretty alright.

[wooden creek]

also with S3 maybe even on skill is enough when you can somehow externally buff her def fast enough. maybe skalter S2 ore something though skalter would take too long

[wooden creek]

nvm i misread. with the module she still has 200% her def onskill should still be enough to tank even the stronger bear with 1200 atk

[wooden creek]

xmod pretty fine

[vivid yew]

i wanna e2 nightingale or sankta, who's more practical? or i can get the module for tragodia

[slim tusk]

she retain +100% def so 1k atk will kill her on skill

anyhow you can stall bear with her,it's joever
bear is just a meme

[copper oracle]

tragussy module

[vivid yew]

😭

[fiery canopy]

okay but lemon module

[wooden creek]

doenst this refer to +215% goes down to +100% aka double her stat?

[ancient lotus]

lin can tank, but the adverse 16-12 bear has a slightly higher ATK so you need another source of ATK down to tank the adverse bear

[vivid yew]

i dont wanna do 13 13 rn im lazy, also i kinda dont like using lemuen a lot shes boring

[spare smelt]

when do operators get a skin for them

[wooden creek]

damn that was fast

[vivid yew]

so i should level up tragodia to 60 for his module over sankta or nightingale right? i can only level one unit rn btw, im broke

[copper oracle]

do tragussy

[lusty helm]

Wheres the best place to farm this

[copper oracle]

1-7

[vivid yew]

oki.. 😭

[lusty helm]

[copper oracle]

1-7 is eternal

[vivid yew]

i use his s2, is that okay? i rlly have fun with the cat, idk if thats his best skill tho @copper oracle

[slim tusk]

double of low base def

[copper oracle]

s2 is best skill yea

[lusty helm]

I dont see any 1-7

[wooden creek]

wait so normal difficulty 16-12 is fine but adverse has like a 10% atk increase and then it down the drain?

[copper oracle]

u havent played chapter 1 in story?

[vivid yew]

ohh okay

[ancient lotus]

Yes

[lusty helm]

I have

[woeful zodiac]

its the small rock, you farm the small rock to craft the bigger rock to crafter the bigger big rock

[lusty helm]

Ohhh

[copper oracle]

then farm 1-7

[ancient lotus]

Wait not the adverse, the sandbox mode thingy

Mb, that ups the bear atk to 1300ish

[mental gull]

Is quartz worse than frostleaf?

[modern trail]

what mod for logos?

[ancient lotus]

Delta

[wooden creek]

damn. in wiki it only states having 1000 atk in 16-12 and H16-2 and having 1200 atk in H16-4
anyways thanks for the help

[modern trail]

oki

[golden cedar]

If I get 200 Spark coin and they get converted to material currency. We can spent it whenever we need something. No need to be conservative with it. Right?

[vivid yew]

@copper oracle okay i moduled his tragussy

[fiery canopy]

[wooden creek]

ah yes with the atk buff risk

[copper oracle]

🔥

[mental gull]

is hoederer good?

[copper oracle]

in is5

[fiery canopy]

is5 merchant yeah

[ancient lotus]

It might be a better idea to redeem them for 5-star dupes to earn extra certs, but yeah. Do note that materials have different sanity values.

[mental gull]

which skill for hoederer?

[ancient lotus]

For IS5 S1 and S2

S2 to lanehold and S1 for bossing

[copper oracle]

all 3 for is5

[fiery canopy]

m9 technologies

[vivid yew]

what trainer is best for tragodia im stupid

[golden cedar]

Like the 5 star dupes of the character on that banner?

[fiery canopy]

just logos it

[copper oracle]

s1 for sustain if u dont lack max hp
s2 for permastun
s3 for sustain if u lack max hp

[ancient lotus]

Yes

[vivid yew]

okay ill start logosing it rn

[copper oracle]

its true tho, hoe should he m9 for is5

[golden cedar]

Oh okay.

[copper oracle]

logussy

[vivid yew]

i finished with the logussy just now, he's logosing tragussy atm

[mental gull]

top contender for the worst 6 star?

[hollow sparrow]

lessing maybe

[slim tusk]

siege

[zealous harbor]

is akafuyu nice guys? im new and is stuck at 3-8

[hollow sparrow]

not really

you can try sending your roster in #strategy for stage help

[modern trail]

borrow someone's wissy

[hollow sparrow]

if you want general roster advice here is good

[slim tusk]

tequila it

[zealous harbor]

i see

[hollow sparrow]

i’d recommend against borrowing for main story since it’s good to learn how to strategize tbh

[copper oracle]

damn how to strategize

[slim tusk]

put this twink,unexist enemy

[hollow sparrow]

so true

[modern trail]

between these op which one should i kinda upgrade on (excluding modules)

[hollow sparrow]

ulpian

[coral knot]

Nightingale is a great E2, but Trag mod should also be high priority. Sankta is minor

[modern trail]

okay

[sonic rose]

as a new player, how many pulls are you expected to do early on?

[vivid yew]

Which skill to upgrade for Leizi and Sakiko?

[formal shadow]

until 1st 6* on beginner banner and nothing else right now

[fiery canopy]

just reroll , do singles on newbie banner for 1st 6s

[coral knot]

You can try reroll for Ulpi and then save for Leizi2 or someone else

[coral knot]

Leizi is s2 > s1 (lesser priority)

[woeful zodiac]

idk what that means, but the most pull value strat is pull until 6 star on the beginner banner, then save up for a priority banner.

[coral knot]

Sakiko is usually s3

[fiery canopy]

saki s3 and s2 for afk leizi is m9 angle being s2 best in general >s3 highest dmg potential(200k)on the right map>s1 for lane holding

[golden cedar]

Do you have to pull on Kernal Banner for the Blue Credit to buy Scene?

[undone portal]

saki s2/leizi s1 are pretty skippable

[fiery canopy]

have u guys m3d ur ulpi s2

[hollow sparrow]

i have

[formal shadow]

technically you can buy her with gold cert too
but yes, only kernel gives blue credits

[undone portal]

nah, sl7 + gladiia works fine enough

[woeful zodiac]

ulpi s2 m3 gains are poopy

[fiery canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1273778682892390541.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[sonic rose]

so i just work with what i have even if it feels very lacking?

[undone portal]

believe in your 3/4stars :ya:

[woeful zodiac]

thing is, its almost never lacking, ppl have cleared 99% of the game with only 4 stars

[formal shadow]

they work fine early game

[shadow bay]

hear that frostleaf... ur good at what ur doing 🥹

[fiery canopy]

you'd only have ulpi and sash yeah(though they are good enough to carry till end of story tbh) just farm op on first clears then u can pull on leizi2 and hoshi alt

[hollow sparrow]

most of the newbie benefits are in the form of op progression materials and selectors
the beginning pulls aren’t a lot compared to some other gacha games

[tropic schooner]

any progression tips for a newbie? should i just focus on main story or what

[shadow bay]

if theres event do event

[coral knot]

I have seen more Leizi s1 usage than s3

[undone portal]

ngl i basically stopped seeing leizialt s1 after the first few weeks. leizi in is basically only runs s2/3 depending on the map

s1 dps is . its there i guess

[ancient lotus]

leizi S2>S3 = S1
sakiko S3>S2 (AFK)

[graceful vigil]

just m9

[woeful zodiac]

-# I have seen equal leizi s1 s2 s3 usage man. (I have seen 0 of all 3)

[shadow bay]

no way a shape telling me to m9 a goat character 🥹

[sonic rose]

i see
speaking of selectors, are there any particular units i should use them on?

[woeful zodiac]

check the beginner selectors in pins

[graceful vigil]

if you are debating over s3 is more useful than s1 or vice versa just master her s2 ans see what else you need accordingly to what you play

[vivid yew]

I already have M6 Ulpianus so i guess Sakiko S2 can be skipped?

[coral knot]

Two different AFK usages

[undone portal]

ulpi in afk is a tank, saki is ranged dps

[fiery canopy]

m9 e290 p6 mod3 sakiko

[vivid yew]

Ok

[sonic rose]

ooo nicely. i guess i will be relying on the pins for a while then, thanks everyone

[graceful vigil]

actually, he isnt a tank until you bring gladiia into it

[undone portal]

ulpi s2 by himself is certainly a tank depending on the enemy layout

[graceful vigil]

he is a semi laneholder id say, ig you give him a healer, hes amazing

[coral knot]

He is a tank, just that without Gladiia he is a normal one

[fiery canopy]

ulp sustain is so fake without s2 tbh

[graceful vigil]

you can compare him to cuora with mod and see the difference yourself

[woeful zodiac]

idk about u but 9k hp is pretty tank without gladiia.

[undone portal]

why are we comparing a crusher to a protector exactly

[graceful vigil]

you said he is a tank lmao

[undone portal]

hp tanking and def tanking are pretty different roles in practice

[coral knot]

Ulpi has a lot of HP, but low def. Gladiia gives sanctuary, which helps a lot

[woeful zodiac]

he is hp sponge tank, cuora is high defense tank

[graceful vigil]

people forget rthe whole notion of tanking depends on him getting a healer or gladiia

[thorny edge]

leizi so peak

[graceful vigil]

zuo le is a better tank, far better

[distant raptor]

hi guys i have 1 e2 6 star, being silverash, any ideas on who i should get as my 2nd e2 6 star? this is my team + what 6 stars i have, i kinda wanna do chongyue so that he will be usable but i feel like thorns or ulpianus might be better?

[thorny edge]

[robust thistle]

Ulpian

[woeful zodiac]

idk why tank needs to be self sustain in your definition

[coral knot]

Yu > Zuo > Ulpi

[thorny edge]

three laneholders

[ancient lotus]

Yeah right the infamous block 1 enmity tank

[robust thistle]

Yu is fine on E1 honestly

[slim tusk]

do ulpi first,why people allergic on dmg

[robust thistle]

Ulpian on the other hand is a cripple on E1

[distant raptor]

what does yu's s3 do? its the big fire wall right?

[thorny edge]

it does nothing

[coral knot]

Yu can be a better damage dealer than Ulpi for him. Yu literally destroys most story bosses until chapter 14

[robust thistle]

He does that on E1

[coral knot]

You are right though

[robust thistle]

Burn damage is a static value

[coral knot]

Maybe Ulpi then, cause Zuo would require mod

[slim tusk]

yu is a worse damage daler than ulpi s3
and ulpi need e2 to works

[woeful zodiac]

puzzle adanachiel lumen is 🥹 find replacement soon pls.

[distant raptor]

i want elysium and insider, no luck with elysium and cant get insider 💔

[thorny edge]

not the roblox face. get kroos alter, she's free from invitation to wine

[woeful zodiac]

oh wait this is maleknights ? then I guess lumen is kinda ok. puzzle needs replacement tho.

[coral knot]

Lumen is complicated

[distant raptor]

yeah my only levelled characters so far are guys

[thorny edge]

ew mael

[shadow bay]

[wild salmon]

How many notes saki can have at once on the stage?

[robust thistle]

She has a limit on that?

[distant raptor]

anyways ulpi seems like the right choice, i should go with him right?

[candid dirge]

should i use stam pots on this current event stages?

[wild salmon]

Idk thats why i asked

[nimble kite]

Yeah. And right now, he's dead because Mlynar.

But we're still suggesting him just because he's the best out of starter 6☆ and he can do something.

[thorny edge]

he has gvg uses reallymad

[shadow bay]

if u need more sugar/crystal sure

[silver smelt]

invis reveal and rdp timer bot

[distant raptor]

vigil

[woeful zodiac]

you can instead pick up wanqing from here a ppl sows, if you happen to have bassline he's pretty good healing.

[thorny edge]

just use myrtle s1 at sl7

[undone portal]

cant get wanqing right now, record restorations not open yet

[woeful zodiac]

oh, mb im bricked

[slim tusk]

myrtle femael

[distant raptor]

my healer roster 🧱

[undone portal]

puzzles probably your best bet for a vanguard for now if youre running strict maleknights

consider courier perhaps

[distant raptor]

i wasnt gonna do maleknights at first but i kept getting male operator after male operator and now i've kinda stuck with it

[ancient lintel]

where's your ptil and silence

[distant raptor]

im using puzzle + courier

[slim tusk]

#strategy message

[distant raptor]

i tried mitm but he seemed a bit funky, is he any good?

[woeful zodiac]

he is good ye

[undone portal]

lumens never been bad, hes just expensive as hell for whats effectively just an above average medic
mitm is solid

[distant raptor]

oh should i replace puzzle for him?

[coral knot]

Lumem hps is actually about the same as quercus s1.

[mental gull]

how good is zuo le compared to ulpia?

[undone portal]

effectively a better beanstalk if youre willing to dump the extra resources
mitms worse than puzzle for dp gen (tacticians are generally the worst class for this), run mitm because his summon lets you set up a bunch of blockers for free for a stage opener

[graceful vigil]

both are used differently ulpian is better

[distant raptor]

ahhh okay i see, thank you!

[coral knot]

Zuo is a dps on s3 and Lane Holder on s2 (though lacks block). I'd say Zuo is about the same if not better than Ulpianus without Gladiia

[fiery canopy]

zuo s3 lane holds aswell, enemy just has to be strong enough to get him low

[coral knot]

1 block er...

[graceful vigil]

he has stun and sp recovery for that genius

[silver smelt]

what squad for is5 for doing non lamp runs?

[fiery canopy]

s3 does 20k dmg and low cd and stuns

[coral knot]

But Zuo is very expensive cause he is trash without mod3

[fiery canopy]

yeah he needs mod3

[vivid yew]

i got his mod!

[graceful vigil]

ingots

[silver smelt]

also can i take exu start instead of wisadel borrow start?

[coral knot]

Do you have Wis?

[undone portal]

exu start definitely works

[silver smelt]

no

[coral knot]

Wis tends to be better on IS5, but Exu is also a great pick

[silver smelt]

yea im just bored of wisadel

[undone portal]

try out rosmontis opener instead

[silver smelt]

if i get her

[coral knot]

Borrow

Rosmontis is broken on IS5

[candid dirge]

is spuria worth building? if i like snipers

[undone portal]

no lmao

[ancient lintel]

she'll make u feel that 20% stun bro trust

[coral knot]

Spuria?

[spring obsidian]

should i raise another medic or would it be better to wait for haruka?

[undone portal]

her kit doesnt even work right with half of them and for the other half youll get better mileage just using warfarin/mon3tr

[woeful zodiac]

but the lemuen spuria tech 🥹

[coral knot]

Wait Haruka

Who is Spuria

[candid dirge]

😔 i think the geeks are cool

[shadow bay]

she a 5 star geek

[coral knot]

Trash

[clever fog]

This might be a dumb question, but as a f2p player do you think it's wise to build up all 3* 4* and 5* if i wanna get the full experience for IS? or any end game there is available

[coral knot]

If you have infinite resources, you can. If you dont have, you are probably dying on the middle. Dont do it

[candid dirge]

as mainly f2p i didnt build 5* till after all my 6*

[woeful zodiac]

not all, just the good ones.

[coral knot]

Aak is cool actually

[shadow bay]

there are only handful low rarities that would be useful

[clever fog]

Is there some kind of list for that?

[nimble kite]

3☆ and some 4☆ are fine. 5☆ you may not touch, with some exceptions.

[coral knot]

Tbh you could probably count on one hand good 5* without counting base workers

[undone portal]

all of them? certainly not, thatll get expensive, especially with the 5stars
focus on kroos/spot/steward/fang/ansel for 3stars, and theres a longer list of 4stars depending on whether this is for is5 or is6. dont raise 5stars specifically for is unless you know what youre doing

[ancient lintel]

build aak just for IBG

[tropic schooner]

i tried doing the ulpi event but it gets harder later on and i dont have enough mats to upgrade my ops right now

[candid dirge]

my aak is fully built other than pots 😔 (he was my first m9)

[clever fog]

Did someone make a video or list that i can follow?

[ancient lintel]

stop n farm

[shadow bay]

then just farm the farthest stage u can auto

clring the shop takes priority (but assuming ur a newbie, skip tokens and furnitures)

[woeful zodiac]

theres some gif for 5 stars that i dont have access to, and for 4 stars you could check the video from silvergun talking about that. tho i dont rembr if the vid is for specific IS or for IS in general.

[grand path]

is it worth to e2 proviso as base slave for new player?

[ancient lintel]

s***h

[tropic schooner]

Oh i see thanks guys!

[undone portal]

just farm the standard stage you can clear for points and clear out as much of the shop as you can. the materials can go towards building your squad and pushing further into the event if you can

[candid dirge]

how about exualter she a geek too right?

is she useable by herself

[grand path]

who should i pair her? anyone?

[graceful vigil]

she is top 3 unit in the game

[shadow bay]

cant go wrong with high%, mostly use quartz on that

[ancient lintel]

yea she's good, you'll want to have dummy or something for her to steal aspd tho

[undone portal]

exualt does want someone else with her (to steal aspd on s2, to revive with s3) but shes quite strong, very easy dps carry

[candid dirge]

so pair her with s2 someone with high aspd? and like surtr for s3?

[ancient lintel]

I mean s2 you can use it with like anyone

[undone portal]

pair her with someone who wont mind getting hit with an aspd debuff. someone who isnt dps, in other words

[coral knot]

3* for IS 2/3/4/5/6: Kross/Spot/Ansel/Fang/Steward
4* for IS 5 and 6: Click/Myrtle/Gummy/May/Gravel
5*: Greyy/Tin Man for IS5/Surfer or Cantabile/

[graceful vigil]

no s2 will steal aspd from last deployed op/taunt so be mindful, use it on tank to give armore as their aspd dont matter

[vagrant locust]

I want to m3 one of zuo les' skills which one should i m3, S2 or S3?

[slim tusk]

do people still draft tinman?

[robust thistle]

Have you done his mod

[vagrant locust]

Aight thanks

[graceful vigil]

bad to lamp, good for talons

[ancient lintel]

for s3 there's a lot of combos for you to use if ur interested in them lol, yu double TP, etc etc

[shadow bay]

no need to mind aspd on who to steal

u only want someone in exu range when she use her s2 to steal aspd... doesn't matter who it is

u can even just put gravel or something before u cast s2 so exu can steal aspd

[nimble kite]

All units has 100 ASPD by default, so steal from anyone you like, preferably not attacking or doing nothing.

[coral knot]

Most people yeah

[undone portal]

hard to justify drafting tinman at this point, every ending has a handful of higher priority specialists to draft

[clever fog]

Appreciate it

[vagrant locust]

His X mod currently on stage 2, gonna get mroe data supplement later

[candid dirge]

is stealing from a medic bad

[graceful vigil]

most people dont play talons lol

[robust thistle]

Mod3 first then s3m3

[undone portal]

if the medic healing more slowly gets you killed, yes

[ancient lintel]

gotta draft ela exu2 yato2 mizuki and maybe texas2 before I touch tinman XD

[shadow bay]

when im free to draft tin man ig???

i just learn the art of throwing trash in is5 🥹

[nimble kite]

You may slowdown their healing. Skalter is best ASPD donor.

[vagrant locust]

Gotchu

[candid dirge]

okay that works or ill use gravel like someone else suggested then thanks yall

[nimble kite]

Also, Mlynar takes priority over deploy order and Exu always steal ASPD from him.

You can use it as advantage, while he's skill off.

[coral knot]

He has reduced cost so you can usually just draft him on the start. He tends to be one of the best starters cause he helps with getting plans and +17 sanity

[vagrant locust]

Yu double tp? What kind of combo is that?

[undone portal]

with highdiff hope costs, drafting tinman locks you out of starting with a 6star

[ancient lintel]

you use yu to TP once then redeploy him with exu2 to TP again
hence double TP

[vagrant locust]

Oooh, i never really bothered using exu s3, i really should

[candid dirge]

what the that sounds cool too

[robust thistle]

You really dont need to bother to use S3 if you dont need it

[ancient lintel]

I mean it's fun and cool yea but not necessary most of the time

[copper oracle]

how do u kill f1 spikes

[coral knot]

He tends to be still justified draft if you dont want to suffer with toil

[woeful zodiac]

cry on it with alchemy juice for 10mins

[copper oracle]

what diff do u play

[copper oracle]

how do u stall the enemies for 10 minutes

[woeful zodiac]

you dont

[copper oracle]

like the main reason defsupp drafts aurora is she can permastall enemies without dmging them cos defsupp has ZERO damage

[shadow bay]

this people not believe in the power of oily alchemist

[shadow bay]

good thing we are in age where we rarely problem toil limit and just throw the clutters

[woeful zodiac]

can aurora stall longer than smthn like bassline s2 ? 👀
oh I get it she just heals herself over and over. understood.

[undone portal]

tinman opener is quite literally nonfunctional once you hit d15 and as said earlier you should be picking up exualt/yatoalt/mizuki before you even consider him. only situation i would imagine a run fitting him in is if you get thrown a spec voucher on low hope and youre confident dropping 1hope on him wont brick you out of a 6star draft later

[ancient lotus]

With archetto

[copper oracle]

wtf cheeto opener

[ancient lotus]

Tinman with cheeto can take f1 spike on s1

[copper oracle]

i heard cheeto opener dies to dense jungle 🤫

[shadow bay]

should i believe to a talking cube or a twink???

[ancient lotus]

[undone portal]

cheeto can kill spines without relics?

[copper oracle]

:clueless:

[ancient lotus]

Yes, with her IS mod

[copper oracle]

e2 ofc, mod alpha is +50% atk on skill

[ancient lotus]

But if youre starting cheeto might as well use tinman to take spike

[undone portal]

fair enough
someone get me a chetto i wanna try this

[copper oracle]

the tinman s1 technologies is getting out of hand now

[coral knot]

You could open with Cheeto ig, but i'd open with Wis or Rosmontis instead

[ancient lotus]

Yep more tinman s1 technology incoming

[copper oracle]

its better than the ange s1 technologies

[ancient lotus]

Tinman shamare gummy theresis stall

Tinman quartz quilon right

[undone portal]

ange s1 wtfart

[coral knot]

Though Rosmontis at e1 is pretty trash

[shadow bay]

the last time i do this i was ashamed for not being able to e2 them 🥹

[woeful zodiac]

tinman cheeto is5 teknologia unlocked, is it time to win harder

[coral knot]

Thats the problem with any of them opening

[copper oracle]

is shamare 100% uptime with kings

[copper oracle]

play class squad

[woeful zodiac]

30sp, 15s doll time, so u need +1 sp/s for 100%

[coral knot]

Does someone do that still?

[copper oracle]

class squad > blueprint

[coral knot]

[fiery canopy]

[copper oracle]

ofc im talking about d18 245

idk for lower diffs or other endings

[coral knot]

The only IS i take class squad is IS3 cause that +1 hope sucks

[undone portal]

surely you had to play the lower difficulties to actually get there :clueless:

[copper oracle]

e2 start gives u a lot of power

[ancient lotus]

Pretty sure its just for brandish

[copper oracle]

:clueless:

ah alr, ik tinman is 100% uptime already with kings lmao

[coral knot]

Tbh never drafted Shamare

[turbid ocean]

Shes used on ED5 if not enough damage to surpass Amiya defense

[coral knot]

Probably lack of relics

[turbid ocean]

Amiyas defense is bat shit high

Even more necessary if you do ED5 fractured

[fiery canopy]

gatekeep tinman s1 technologies

[ancient lotus]

Yep true elitist behavior

[arctic salmon]

Enough?

[turbid ocean]

No keep going till events over

[arctic salmon]

Not go here auto?

[turbid ocean]

Thats apart of infinite shop

Dont farm that ones stage

[arctic salmon]

Sugar>loxic? Oh

[turbid ocean]

Farm the sugar stage -> use the currency to buy infinite material

given you wiped other parts of shop that are necessary

[arctic salmon]

Just sugar right

[turbid ocean]

yes

[arctic salmon]

Last time it was 50 sugars to atleast last a month

[shadow bay]

cant hurt to stock more to the point ull not gonna run out of sugar any time soon

[hollow jackal]

is leizi alter on December 11

[turbid ocean]

Does it say that in #game-news

👁️

You know the rules

[arctic salmon]

Wait is she good? Idk where I got her from

[hollow jackal]

🥀

[turbid ocean]

Shes meh

Depends on your roster

Probably wont build her any time soon

[fiery canopy]

yes

[shadow bay]

[hollow jackal]

mods ban them

[turbid ocean]

Did you see my messages?

You know rule 5

[fiery canopy]

its satire !

[formal shadow]

for training room

[shadow bay]

no way we allowed to do satire in help chat 🥹

[turbid ocean]

That won't concern Shaw

[sinful oracle]

Yall is leizei any good ? i kinda like the fact she can chain art damage and slow

[formal shadow]

leizi 1? shit, middling with mod2+

[sinful oracle]

yes leizei 1

[turbid ocean]

You got Fedex, Trag, and Sash to E2 first

[shadow bay]

ig she is one of the better chain casters

but chain casters are known to need investment to be good, and even with that there are better arts dps source rather than chain casters

[turbid ocean]

Irene can stay untouched for a while

[shadow bay]

esp leizi... she want the module to help her skill to cycle

[arctic salmon]

Oh thats long way to go still
But who will be my main one to e2 tho? Pinned says ash e2 but I have trag and exe
Soon leizi

[tropic schooner]

guys, what's the recommended operator level for doing annihilation?

[sinful oracle]

yikes, better to get thunderbringer ver instead then ?

[turbid ocean]

It will be Fedex, then Tragodia, then Sash

[arctic salmon]

Wb leizi if I got her

[turbid ocean]

If Leizi hapens, then you can honestly use her at E1 for a bit just fine

[formal shadow]

different role but yeee

[turbid ocean]

She will be next in line

[sinful oracle]

herm, i kinda used her as art dmg + slow but ig ill switch it up

[arctic salmon]

Oh ok ty

[arctic salmon]

Lowk is fedex that good?
Cause he's always the first to die since no healer /reaper trait like anus

[woeful zodiac]

if you use 6 stars leizi1 is 🚮 6 stars can solve the problem better. if you dont use 6 star leizi1 is pog

[blissful berry]

whats pity for banners

[robust thistle]

He has reaper trait though

[signal dragon]

pity explanation in pins

[past cloak]

If given the chance should i replace Sankta mikasparto with Leixi?

[turbid ocean]

Hes nothing crazy but you lack damage right now

[robust thistle]

And ulpian isnt a reaper

[turbid ocean]

And he can provide that damage

[arctic salmon]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

[robust thistle]

Meatshield vs 2nd mlynar, depends on stage

[turbid ocean]

Tragodia is a game breaking operator who doesn't have that much damage... and don't have damage to supplement him

[blissful berry]

is leizi a standalone on her banner so its 50%

[past cloak]

Kay

[arctic salmon]

Even with reaper he dies 1st everytime

[robust thistle]

Is he E2

[sinful oracle]

alr im just gonna go back to trag + gg then. main gripe is just that team is expensive and i dont have decent dp gen

[arctic salmon]

Got it ty
Trag true dmg is the one that's carrying me soo much rn tho

[prime lichen]

Is this needed or can I just overload the equipment

[robust thistle]

If hes not E2 then youre using a cripped op because his best skill is on e2 and he wants his E2 talent

[turbid ocean]

Well its alot for early game but its not particularly high all things considered

Trag works relatively well at E1 so thats why he can be deprioritized a little

[shadow bay]

tbh at that point ur fine being blind

[robust thistle]

That floor is just a straight line

[arctic salmon]

Oh ok ty

[prime lichen]

I meant like is that a required item for the ending

[shadow bay]

but then again the most painful penalty in ed4 is4 is the squad limit reduction

[prime lichen]

I've never done ending whatever this is

[shadow bay]

not rly

ig u can pick it up for collection shenanigans, but yeh not required

[robust thistle]

Oh so this is a failed run

[keen scarab]

place him better since he need to hit enemies to heal
some stages just unfavorable to him because something like the current ulpianus event has 'elemental injury' and he can't be healed by healer

[formal shadow]

just lose bro it's that simple

[shadow bay]

they say exp is the best teacher

[signal dragon]

just use perfumer to heal him if you're desperate

[prime lichen]

Uhhh what about this one

[woeful zodiac]

its a line of debuffs, and if you have the resources you should not take the debuffs

[formal shadow]

lose the helm

[robust thistle]

Every single scripted collectible is not mandatory
It doesnt say "leads to a different direction"

[prime lichen]

Okay, ty

[robust thistle]

Youre already on F6, theres no "mandatory" anymore, youre already in ED4

[nimble kite]

It's a straight debuff that doesn't help you in any way.

Use resources to bypass that without taking it.

If you don't have enough resources - you have to take it.

[woeful zodiac]

-# clueless ed4 attempt, is it winnable

[nimble kite]

Same thing.

If you have Helm - waste it to avoid -4 Squad Size Limit.

[glossy pecan]

always prepare 3 index + helmet at minimum if you can

[prime lichen]

I had to take the -12 hp, what was I missing

[sinful oracle]

Any other good dp gen besides myrtle ? Preferably not another flag bearer

[glossy pecan]

reduced ops stats + lower squad size is extremely harmful

[nimble kite]

Either 20 Hope to use, or End3 (Black Hole Boss summon) relic.

[robust thistle]

Boundless gift

[prime lichen]

is this not ending 3

[robust thistle]

Youre ED4, I already said it

[nimble kite]

No, it's End4 with two dudes.

[formal shadow]

you want the best dp gen you gotta go for a flagbearer
wanqing/ely/sail have the best dp-gen output

[signal dragon]

.

[prime lichen]

Oh I'm tired and dumb

[nimble kite]

Kaghan & Lazarus.
One plays around Phys Damage, second one around Arts.

[formal shadow]

red arts yellow phys

[sinful oracle]

yikes, should just use ely then :/

[robust thistle]

*Lugalszargus

[formal shadow]

buncha wankers bottom side ya gotta spare some thoughts to also

[woeful zodiac]

who is lazarus 🥹

[nimble kite]

I called yellow guy to make it simple. I ain't read his name correctly allat.

[woeful zodiac]

I rembr him as lugal, and khagan is the goat

[lilac falcon]

Just curious if anyone knows the reason for this mail ? Any celebrations or random or what ?

[robust thistle]

They just felt like doing it

[nimble kite]

Random. Just because you're beautiful.

[lilac falcon]

Oh okay. So that means everyone get it too ?

[woeful zodiac]

dont need to think deep about freebies

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[prime lichen]

Hmm any suggestions

[robust thistle]

Youre dead

[woeful zodiac]

you have beseiger hand ?

[nimble kite]

Show whole squad. And close the video, battle wont be simple.

[nimble kite]

You're dead.

[robust thistle]

Its a failed run, I already said it

[woeful zodiac]

why dont u trust the blind ed4 first try 🥹

[nimble kite]

Making sure.

[prime lichen]

Fair enough

[slim tusk]

crazy speccast draft

[robust thistle]

If they have ela it could be doable

[formal shadow]

oh wait where's the healing

[robust thistle]

Well you dont really need healing that much in ED4

[golden cedar]

Is the new free 6 🌟 IS character Raidian something new player can achieve or would it be way to difficult?

[formal shadow]

you can get her same way as other IS ops

[golden cedar]

There are others?

[woeful zodiac]

lugal side no heal🥀

[robust thistle]

Well her entire leveling scheme is purely based on IS

[golden cedar]

Ah... that sounds hard.

[robust thistle]

So yes while you can get her like every other IS welfare, raising her is another thing

[nimble kite]

You just play IS6, and she levels up AUTOMATICALLY.

[quaint valve]

Why i feel its still doable. Only problem is not much art damage

[robust thistle]

You cant level her up, she levels up purely by doing IS and the missions

[prime lichen]

Well wish me luck

[woeful zodiac]

its kinda doable, but problem is : first time

[indigo spoke]

should i farm skill book in CA stage?

[quaint valve]

Nvm, only 6 squad space.. lol

[nimble kite]

Missions are Elite, Masteries, and Mod stuff.

[golden cedar]

Okay. She seems much stronger than majority of my operator. And I really need stronger ranged Operator. Thank you!

[indigo spoke]

she like ling, good for people who dont have much ops but doktuh have many ops find it less efficient

[woeful zodiac]

so will raidian rush newbie strat be a real thing or we still waiting for the arrival to have final thoughts on it ?

[autumn rivet]

whats the command for upcoming mat farm

[golden cedar]

I feel like summoning her pet would be much stronger than my Miss Christine...

[indigo spoke]

ofc miss christine is...

[woeful zodiac]

miss christine is kinda doomed.

[tropic schooner]

should i replace melantha here and put blaze?

[fiery canopy]

if that becomes real then RA rush will also become real

[golden cedar]

But I am glad she was given for free. She was key to me beating the newest event level 8 on CM mode.

[hollow sparrow]

/cnfarm

[nimble kite]

Did you purposely leveled Miss Christine?

[golden cedar]

No. I used free level up on her

It didnt work on Trogodia. And she is only 1 I had other than recommended 3 stars

[nimble kite]

Even. Fucking. Better.
(Sarcasm)

[quick jolt]

is a contender for worst 5star btw

[woeful zodiac]

tru. I just remember some helpers praising raidian like its the revolution for newbie or somethin like that.

[fiery canopy]

[indigo spoke]

that ticket wont run away if you leave it there 💀

[golden cedar]

I thought it might expire 😞didnt know

[fiery canopy]

can't believe 1m lmd, most e2 mats, and 8 chip packs for all classes for only 5 hours of ur time is underrated smh

[nimble kite]

YOU HAVE TIMER
TIMER
BELOW THIS ITEM

[quick jolt]

most likely they had no idea that u can literally only level her by playing the gamemode

[prime lichen]

Both bosses are dead, is there a second phase or am I in the clear

[nimble kite]

If it doesn't have this, it's permanent.

[nimble kite]

Wait, you killed both?

[prime lichen]

Yes

[quick jolt]

how the fuck did u manage that

[woeful zodiac]

oh shett he is cooking

[nimble kite]

Congrats with End4 then.

[fiery canopy]

ur talking to the is5 demon

[indigo spoke]

whats prts stand for

[maiden plover]

Skalter what mod stage?

[woeful zodiac]

whatever the summon deploy reduction one is i think. Most preferable is not use her tho..

[prime lichen]

Uhh

[quick jolt]

oh for some reason i thought that this image was their entire squad. assumed they ate the -4 squad size

[nimble kite]

Primitive Rhodes (Island) Terminal Service
or PRiesTeSs right now.

[coarse tide]

Is new op mh collab?

[nimble kite]

So far we only know it will be new 1☆ cat.

[coarse tide]

Omg