help

[copper oracle]

if u have silence its trivial if only 4 star medics its a toughie u would want e2 purestream to feel fine without giga relics

[deft aspen]

thanks a lot, appreciate it! no worries!

[copper oracle]

he will get ignored

[golden plank]

Now it is guaranted that after 150 pulls ill get on 100% tragodia right ?

[neon berry]

pls tell me he is at least good

[coral knot]

I always save hope on Medics for Mon3tr considering my luck

[golden plank]

someone told me yes

[shut gulch]

Top lane holder

[knotty wave]

hes great

[coral knot]

But sometimes i need ages for a medic voucher appear

[young igloo]

I held it with amiya and e1 honeyberry

[coral knot]

A18?

[young igloo]

Like d8 or d10

[coral knot]

D8/d10 is fine

[clever cedar]

He's good, just very labor intensive

[coral knot]

Zuo Le is a very strong guard

[young igloo]

What about the stage with blocks, explosive guys, ch9 flying victorian goons and 4 lanes to hold? I think it's one of the hardest stages but I don't play with flingers, maybe they help

[turbid ocean]

The correct channel is #strategy

[copper oracle]

make sure to let the top lane enemies break the roadblock so the bottom lane enemy go top and it becomes a 2 lane map instead of 3 lane

[vital solstice]

does wisadels summon count as a summon in IS too?

[turbid ocean]

Uh Frequent Dispute is horrendous 👍

[copper oracle]

yes

[turbid ocean]

Only F4/5 map that is terrible on non emergency too

[copper oracle]

merc...

[turbid ocean]

Merc on non emergency is fine

[copper oracle]

tf kinda comp u running that makes merc fine

[turbid ocean]

GVG and Escort

[copper oracle]

oh wait ur john soul escort bruh kafka permasleep stonks ig

[turbid ocean]

No Kafka

[young igloo]

Specter e2 can hold right side sometimes

[coral knot]

I didnt know we have #is-station. Maybe its better to move?

[turbid ocean]

Merc is still fine

[deft aspen]

i should avoid the battle stages if possible in is5, right? (ending1)

[turbid ocean]

You can but if you want serious help #strategy

[copper oracle]

there is something im missing i feel

[vital solstice]

what do you get if u defeat finale cadence in IS5?

[copper oracle]

this a gen chat for yapping so dont expect help there

[turbid ocean]

Despair lingerer, which is necessary for second ED5 encounter

[maiden thunder]

modx3 is important on the guy for his skill s3m3

[vital solstice]

wait wdym?

[young igloo]

I think fighting as much as you can is preferred, especially if you can move vertically into maps that have spikes so at least some of the plans are refunded

[clever root]

i need to unlock lemon's mod for this to work right ?

[restive crown]

What's the most efficient way to farm carbon sticks? 1-9 or supplies? I'm not sure if supplies are worth it since they cost so much sanity

[turbid ocean]

You kill Cadence, you get a lingerer after, then you try to get the second encounter for ED5 to trade it in for the ED5 relics

[copper oracle]

no

[deft aspen]

thanks but what are spikes?

[turbid ocean]

SK-3 and 5 are your main farms

[restive crown]

Oh okay thank you

[young igloo]

Those spikes that create corrosion area and are hard to destroy and give out plans

[turbid ocean]

“Spines of Epoch” can be killed to obtain a plan

[ancient lintel]

Spike of epochs
Kill 1, get 1 plan
More plans -> more refresh

[fair tulip]

The yellow things

[coral knot]

Merc is fine if you get the right timing on W

[ancient lintel]

You can use them for hope as well (dont)

[rancid badge]

It's the supplies, yeah they cost a lot of sanity but they that's because they want u to play a lot anyway you can get a lot of sanity every week

[copper oracle]

idk how merc is fine for gvg without hoe e2 🚬

[turbid ocean]

Merc is still a stat check stage he’s right it’s difficult to deal with

[coral knot]

Also Ines helps a lot there

[turbid ocean]

Ulpi Sash Mon3tr are all supposed to cope

[coral knot]

Its not fine, but i dont think its the hardest

[turbid ocean]

Mon3tr does a lot of W on Escort btw

[restive crown]

I see, is it because the supplies drop more of each ressource? Like their odds are better than main story stages?

[copper oracle]

i dont draft monsta i wouldnt know ‼️ (shes still e0)

[turbid ocean]

There’s your answer

[copper oracle]

bruh is monsta that good for merc

[turbid ocean]

Sanity efficiency is always the concern yes

[coral knot]

Mon3tr is like, top 5 characters for IS5 as of now

[turbid ocean]

She can handle the merc
She can lane for the invis soldiers

[rancid badge]

Yes and they give much more to upgrade ur base

[copper oracle]

ik shes op she literally has 100% ban rate in theurgy7

[gaunt iris]

can pls anyone help me how to plaay is, where you could get tinman, i need the general guide, just can't wrap my head around it

[ancient lintel]

#is-station pins

[coral knot]

You get Tin Man on IS5

[copper oracle]

u mean the lane that yato deletes relicless smh fraud lane anyway

[gaunt iris]

ohhh

[turbid ocean]

Tinman is in IS5 battle pass

[turbid ocean]

Uh yato can’t delete and block at the same time but mostly

[restive crown]

I understand, I tried to find a ressource/material guide online but it's too complicated for me so I figured I'd ask here

[copper oracle]

shes not supposed to block

[restive crown]

That's good to know, thanks!

[deft aspen]

i lost but ended up here how though

[copper oracle]

time s2 better :ya:

[turbid ocean]

Wow I didn’t know that

[ancient current]

u procced arch glyph

[fair tulip]

One of the collectibles

[deft aspen]

oh cool

[turbid ocean]

You diedn’t

[ancient current]

reading the relics explains the relics i think

[copper oracle]

reading

[ancient lintel]

Blud did not read 🥀
Anyhow, I'm free now if u wanna hop on VC to explain stuff better

[coral knot]

She is stupid there.

[copper oracle]

how about u help me instead thoughts?

[ancient lintel]

Nah, I dont help relicless players

[median fable]

everything except helping you with relicless clears

[deft aspen]

i kinda cant talk rn, my mom is sleeping in the next room, really sorry

[copper oracle]

🥀

light what r the odds of mizuki dodging 15 atks in a row

[knotty wave]

you can use telepathy

[coral knot]

Maybe she will be the next black list on Theurgy 8

[turbid ocean]

Higher chance of you rolling all the dodge relics

[copper oracle]

i have a strat for 4 ops d15 2x crown phantom but it involves mizuki dodging 15 times in a row
is this strat cope

[turbid ocean]

😊

[copper oracle]

wtf its that bad huh 🥹

[deft aspen]

i will ask you later if you are free, im really sorry

[ancient lintel]

Ye no it's fine

[copper oracle]

they havent moved on to is6?

[turbid ocean]

0.003% you got this

[coral knot]

I dont think so

[deft aspen]

what is best here

[red oasis]

No, they're skipping dlc1

[coral knot]

IS6 kinda sucks

[copper oracle]

damn only need 30k runs surely doable

[turbid ocean]

You get it tomorrow trust

[ancient current]

i mean wat medics/vgs do u have available

[median fable]

does someone know how good Raidian beta mod is?

[copper oracle]

okayge

[ancient current]

@abstract mauve most likely knows

[deft aspen]

monstr, ines but then my hopes will be gone and the wisadel is still e1

[copper oracle]

allegedly its worse than the first mod 🚬

[red oasis]

trash
0 usecases
It's a mod for when you're too lazy to use the summons, but it still fails at that

[maiden thunder]

draft summoner>doesnt use summons 🤯

[fading saddle]

Is there a guide for IS4?

[median fable]

thought so

[turbid ocean]

New Raidian mod is dogshit

[median fable]

guide for is4 as in what?

[teal elk]

@copper oracle is there an updated is4 playlist

[deft aspen]

are these things worth it?

[turbid ocean]

Depends but not this

[warm badger]

Hello guys, returning player here. Need to pick someone here, who? My most used operators are Kirin, Logos, Wis, Eyjafjalla (healer) and Pepe 🙂

[fading saddle]

For the new mechanics, cause I've been clueless so far in my run

[turbid ocean]

Ngl it might be a pick who you like

Cuz none of them will be meaningful to you

[median fable]

if you're interested in that there should be a guidebook in the IS page, you can also read that part in the wiki page dedicated to is4

[turbid ocean]

Still leaning towards SilverAsh a little but ehhhhhh

[warm badger]

Damn, are they that bad?

[heavy ridge]

how do i achieve this? i did clear a stage without leak

[sharp lagoon]

which skill should I m3 for tragodia

[warm badger]

And should i pull for Tragodia? the pity is 150 right? 🥲

[turbid ocean]

Uh they’re all old and for new players

[median fable]

they are bunch of old ops, obv they are kinda mid. I'd still pick SA though

[turbid ocean]

And you have some of the strongest

[turbid ocean]

You will probably get him earlier

[deft aspen]

this stage is hard with these ops, right?

[turbid ocean]

Yes do pull

[warm badger]

Should i try? im at 34k sadly

[median fable]

hard pity in AK is hard to reach

[warm badger]

Yeah but sadly i did invest only in those mentioned ahaha

[teal elk]

exu best from pots altho u can get silverash for rdp time maybe and he is stronger
ppl usually buff ceobe better than exu now

[turbid ocean]

Manageable, have Wis DPS the big guy
And click on the top spine
Gracebearer lane hold
Reserve Defender to eat the seeds

[warm badger]

watch me reach it

[median fable]

didn't say it's impossible, but hard

[turbid ocean]

Oh that’s it? Well I’m sure you have other ops too unbuilt

Regardless they’re some of the best and you’re already being carried

[deft aspen]

thanks a lot, grace s1 for lanehold?

[turbid ocean]

S2

[warm badger]

Yeah things like Eunectes and some decent 5* build but for 6* thats it

[proven abyss]

what should i get from this?

[turbid ocean]

See ops you have / need to build

And their material cost

Would suggest RMA70-12 or Nodules

[median fable]

save them for when you actually need them

[turbid ocean]

Show built / unbuilt sort by rarity, all 6* and 5*

[proven abyss]

alright thanks

[turbid ocean]

Make krooster.com account ideally

[warm badger]

😐

[copper oracle]

idk

[wheat saddle]

anyone know when the next voucher in the store is

[copper oracle]

is4 is piss ez now i stopped caring abt is4 outside relicless

[deft aspen]

it worked! this might be my first time completing ending 1

[teal elk]

suck

play carnelian!

[deft aspen]

i should not pick SA or teq as they need e2, right? and save the hopes for maybe exualt or trago?

[fallen depot]

Teq can somewhat work at e1

[neat kayak]

how does the 150 guaranteed pity work?

[copper oracle]

yes

[fallen depot]

Next 6* after the 149th pull will be the banner featured

[knotty wave]

its not 150 guaranteed, when you reach 150 pulls the next 6* will be the guaranteed rateup

[deft aspen]

🫡

[neat kayak]

damn

[keen obsidian]

is clearing ad-8 enough to buyu out the shop usually

[fallen depot]

You can spend all your sanity in AD-1 and still clear up shop.

[knotty wave]

you'd have to run any event stages that isnt EX to clear out the shop

[late willow]

chat, am i making a dumbass decision by skipping the tragodia banner to save enough for guaranteed hoshiguma alter and bang dream characters? or tell me if my math is wrong.
this requires 300+120 = 420 pulls. and guaranteed tragodia would require another 249. i can only afford the first 2.
my krooster is in my discord about me.

[keen obsidian]

o thats sick

[knotty wave]

why are you assuming the worse case scenario? 420 pulls is crazy

[deft aspen]

at the end of floor 3 and i still did not get kings relic, should i just recover all lifepoints?

[late willow]

i have had to spark at 300 multiple times before. better safe than sorry.

[rancid badge]

Should e2 exu2 or tragodia?

[knotty wave]

trag + hoshi banner are worth pulling more than some fomo band girl

[warm badger]

so its better to all in him to save up?

[copper oracle]

tragodia is better than hoshialt
and sakiko but its ur account so u decide what u wanna do lol

[warm badger]

60 pulls and only got Hoederer

[copper oracle]

sakiko not rly strong outside is5

[late willow]

id rather give up hoshi banner than the collab banner.
tragodia and hoshiguma are both about the same to me.

[copper oracle]

then get tragodia cos hes better combat wise

[teal elk]

fib told me hoshialt gud in is6

[late willow]

so is my math correct? it should be within 249 pulls for tragodia right?

[rancid badge]

I mean yeah , why not?

[cold skiff]

what do I farm from event? ( i have 140 in everything)

[deft aspen]

can anyone tell please? I am just trying to understand the right approach so i can do on my own in future.

[teal elk]

farm rocks

make orundum stonks

[knotty wave]

dont recover life points, you're aiming for kingset play. Kings need 1 hp to work

you can just stack up on shields if you dont feel comfortable dangling at the edge with 1 hp

[deft aspen]

usually at which floor do we get kings relic?

[cyan vault]

where are the pins??/

[cold skiff]

which one worth prioritizng

[safe tundra]

does lighting prop have +1 taunt or something? why is everyone shooting it instead of closest enemy to bluebox

[cold skiff]

discord api server are broken or something, prob wait until it is fixed

[knotty wave]

you should be getting them by now if you reroll a node and it becomes a Wish Fulfilled

[cold skiff]

?

[nimble kite]

Wait, really, where they are

[signal dragon]

discord broken

[ancient lintel]

discord broke down

[knotty wave]

its currently bugged

[teal elk]

i removed it no need to thank

[elfin loom]

do i just send it with just top op here? i alr have bp, shining, and ng

[severe crypt]

[cold skiff]

when i log in it said something somethingg about api server so probably just broken for a bit

[cyan vault]

does anyone have that newbie guide image?

[cold skiff]

?

[deft aspen]

i have not refreshed yet because i did not need to, should i refresh once just for the sake of it?

[dreamy carbon]

the limited ones

[cold skiff]

both of them are tho

[teal elk]

try to get ceobe maybe

[knotty wave]

you refresh once per node at early floors to get your kings asap

[dreamy carbon]

both tbh, one is collab and is pretty good and hoshi is pretty good as well and haruka is best medic

[cold skiff]

aight, no idea if im gonna have pulls for that

[cold skiff]

?

[late willow]

#event-info message
if you have 140 of all 3 blue mats, then i think you should farm whichever one is in future event stage rotation last.
thats what i would do
obviously avoid the infinite shop materials

[teal elk]

farm rocks make orundum

[dreamy carbon]

yea if hoshi fucks you over it's gonna be rough

[sharp lagoon]

pins not working for me: (. discord being goofy

[deft aspen]

there was already a stage called wish fullfilled, i clicked it and it says this?

[cerulean mortar]

s2

[teal elk]

oh wait he blocked me cant even talk to him

[turbid ocean]

Top option will always be Rumble since you are running Wisadel

[knotty wave]

you have wisadel in your squad ye?

[faint cloud]

would you say Leizi Alter is a good pull if i don`t have Mlynar?

[cerulean mortar]

yes shes very strong, good even if you have him but ESPECIALLY if you dont

[cold skiff]

how do I check that? and if say i bought everything in shop what do I get from the infinite thing

[prisma thorn]

perhaps crowd control

[dreamy carbon]

it is but there's hoshiguma alter and collab right after that

[teal elk]

she is used in cc4 u will need to pull her if u dont want to borrow

[cerulean mortar]

the only thing that might make you not want to pull her is if you care about things being limited

[faint cloud]

that's true

[deft aspen]

yes

[late willow]

well id check the oyukich and peteryr sheets
ill grab them for you

[knotty wave]

get the top one, hand of rumble

[turbid ocean]

Hoshi2 and Collab probably take prio for most players

[cold skiff]

do you suggest i just skip hoshi? or like do single free pull until last day then decide? i only currently have the amount of pulls in my name + a bit more

[deft aspen]

thanks, so which one would you pick? option4? so we get all of them?

[red oasis]

she's a good pull even if you have mlynar

[turbid ocean]

Don’t get all

[faint cloud]

yeah, but there's the other upcoming banners too...

[deft aspen]

top option?

[turbid ocean]

Yes I told you already Hand of Rumble

[faint cloud]

i will probably blow all my pulls on Hoshi/Haruka when they come

[dreamy carbon]

idk, i know she is really good but i don'tknow how many pulls you should do until folding and stop pulling

[faint cloud]

then everything again in the collab

[turbid ocean]

If you’re super poor right now sure save for Hoshi Haruka

[cold skiff]

aight thanks, why did you say to ingnore infnite materials tho? what do i buy if shop is cleared then

[cerulean mortar]

you buy those once shop is cleared

[dreamy carbon]

how many pulls should you stop at in limited banners? people keep saying sparking is bad but they don't give any rough estimate on when to stop

[cold skiff]

aight thanks, is eyja off rate super low? btw during the exu alter banner, was rosmontis and nearl alter off rate low

[deft aspen]

and now get kings... ? (sorry i am asking so many questions, i am struggling with the basics)

[knotty wave]

as soon as you get hoshi, you can drop it

[prisma thorn]

they're all super low

[late willow]

https://x.com/oyuki_gms/status/1976122949100044693
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSEzjegLKeFXaOKPgpyNkw5vWQsa4woCQ8m2sm-UFQY/edit?usp=drivesdk

i meant to not farm event stages that drop mats that are also in the infinite event shop. bc they are less sanity efficient.

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[turbid ocean]

Yes… off rate but very low

Even x5 off rate is low

[dreamy carbon]

and what if for the 3rd time in a row i don't get the banner one even after 300 pulls and have to spark to get her?

[knotty wave]

yes, now youll collect kings

[turbid ocean]

Yes kings priority

[faint cloud]

get what you want and get out, that's it

[turbid ocean]

After 3 kings the last one is a little lower prio but still good to have

[cold skiff]

so i guess i should farm device then

[cold skiff]

wait what really? so me getting nearl alter and rosmontis is crazy luck?

[late willow]

@turbid ocean is it possible to ask the team behind the banner priority image in the pins to move their image to say
https://catbox.moe/ or
https://postimages.org
. imgur is pretty bad for suddenly deleting posts.
ive had it happen to me several times after their announcement about deleting “inactive” posts.

[cerulean mortar]

its really about how much you care about getting the ops onbanner
if you just want the limited stop after the limited
if you want fullbanner then go for full banner
if you want to save for future, stop when you get to how many you need for the future
if you get what you want right before spark threshold, if its like 20 or 30 more pulls it can be worth

tldr opportunity cost is the most important part; how much do you want this banner compared to others?

[ancient current]

i mean can ask fae i guess

[prisma thorn]

what team
isn't it just hermitz or fae

[ancient current]

and light

but pretty much

[late willow]

not sure

[deft aspen]

at the end of floor 3, but now i think i will lose here. should i include frostleaf in my team?

[prisma thorn]

oh

[dreamy carbon]

no idea, it's probably really good for my account since most of my Ops are ranged, and i want the collab one as well

[cold skiff]

wait you have to e2 miss christine to use her with tragodia? the ROI on that would be years right

[edgy stone]

How do u get to floor 3 w j that oof

[dreamy carbon]

i don't consider the orienteering banner right after hoshi since they gonna probably massacre it and take out 2 out of the 4 good units

[faint cloud]

oof, now that i took a look at it, next 3 months are quite stacked

[knotty wave]

sure, you hjave no better option anyway

[ancient current]

replace reserve sniper with reserve medic

[prisma thorn]

@ancient current is matsukiri a good build

[deft aspen]

luck ig

[cerulean mortar]

just do the new banners yeah

[turbid ocean]

Thanks for the suggestion let’s see

[ancient current]

he's solid from what ive heard from shileds

[pseudo wigeon]

hey guys what should i max next

[cerulean mortar]

unless theres like an op you REALLY REALLY want but thats for your personal choice and not the best choice for a strong account

[prisma thorn]

has he said anything about snow hunter or whatever she's called

[dreamy carbon]

i have like 70 pulls right now and saving for hoshi even tho i really need ulpi/ leizi alter

[edgy stone]

Also uh ppl in uk like me need vpn to use imgur 🥀

[ancient current]

uh last time i asked him i think he said she was fine

lemme check

[ruby galleon]

Who should i pick for the 6 star pick?

[late willow]

damn thats crazy. another L for imgur.

[pseudo wigeon]

i need healer this time

[ancient current]

#help message

[turbid ocean]

I doubt our links will turn inactive given they’re updated monthly but that is a concern

[oak shale]

Imgur went from goat to trash over the years

[ancient current]

coldshot might be better so

[faint cloud]

remember to wait till last day to pull on limiteds

[late willow]

since mods are here, what do you guys think about this
i think only 2 ppl replied to me

[prisma thorn]

💔 I thought she'd be better

[cinder zodiac]

What are these choices? Can someone translate

[turbid ocean]

Meta wise Tragodia trumps but depends what you care about

[faint cloud]

i think planning to hard pity tragodia is unreal, you'll almost never need to spark regular banner units

[vital cliff]

So uhh, am I doing this right

[ancient current]

well needing 300 for hoshialt is extremely unlikely, so unlikely in fact that it isn't reasonable placing 300 prospective pulls for her unless you're extremely pessimistic

[dreamy carbon]

im not a mod but yea it think it's dumb, tragodia is like top 3 in hte game,you pûll for him then you save (even tho ulpi and leizi are really good as well, keep enough pulls for collab when you pull for hoshi)

[cerulean mortar]

you have ptilopsis who should be fine for now. Medics are pretty replaceable with one another since their main goal is to heal and they can all heal. if you want a burst heal go for sussurro. ptilopsis s2 can also burst heal pretty well

[cold skiff]

which infinite mats is better in shop? mangnese or kohl

[turbid ocean]

Whichever you have less

[cerulean mortar]

which do you need

[late willow]

yes i only pull on banners i can guarantee. but im just not sure myself i prioritize how tragodia is more meta or hoshiguma is limited.

[nimble kite]

🟢"On second thought..." VS 🔴"GIVE ME EVERYTHING!"
Second choice will enforce a battle.

[ancient current]

you don't need to be limited to be good
tragodia is very very good, more of a prio than hoshi
so up to you

[cerulean mortar]

thats really a personal choice. if you care about collection go for hoshi alter, because if you have like all the current meta you wont necessarily need him. but tragodia is significantly stronger so if you value strength go for him

[cinder zodiac]

Is it a hard one? What if we win

[faint cloud]

Yeah, i'd say my reasons to pull on hoshi banner is because Haruka is busted, and i really really like Hoshi, not because Hoshi is strong or anything

[late willow]

thanks for the replies. i think i will be able to decide soon.

[deft aspen]

i somehow beat this also, but the last enemy left some flying unblockable thingy, it also died somehow

[median fable]

seems like the worst thing to do in AK since reaching the guarantee in standard banners has astronomically low chances

[nimble kite]

Depends on IS and what floor.

If you survive, everything in the shop will be FREE!
But from now on, until end of the run, new shops will be completely empty.

[dreamy carbon]

all i'm gonna say is look at tragodia videos and you'll see how good he is, if he wasn't as cracked as he was and was like ulpianus or leizi alter good i would have skipped and told you to pull limited as well

[cerulean mortar]

some people treat it less like a gacha and more like a tower defense so they just make sure they can get the characters they want most and can ignore the gacha aspect

[late willow]

ive had to spark 300 multiple times now. and im risk adverse so cant be helped imo.
i wouldnt pull if i could only do 295 pulls.

[deft aspen]

beginning of floor 4, i should pick trago?

[sweet blade]

why did he kill ptilopsis when melantha was the most recent deployed unit??

[faint cloud]

yeah, i've had to spark Texalter once and was planning to spark Muelsyse, but i got her randomly last banner

[dreamy carbon]

same i feel you, it's been 3 times in a row the game fucked me over and didn't give me the limited after 300 pulls

[fervent compass]

who do i replace for fang?

[faint cloud]

i also didn't get Yu, but i'm not willing to spark him

[prisma thorn]

why fang

[fervent compass]

idk i saw her in a video and she seemed op

[dreamy carbon]

you don't have enough dp with canta and myrtle?

[prisma thorn]

the 3*?

[nimble kite]

Outta range, so he hits second last deployed, which might be your precious Ptilo.

[fervent compass]

idk canta is like a grunt and myrtle takes awhile

[median fable]

do what you want then

[faint cloud]

fang or fangalter?

[fervent compass]

normal fang

[dreamy carbon]

i would say either silence or sankta

[prisma thorn]

probably just don't

[fervent compass]

not doing it is an option if u guys dont recommend

[nimble kite]

Seems to me she cannot change anyone. You have Myrtle already, that's enough for money print.

[late willow]

i think the odds of getting a specific rate up 6* in a limited banner within 300 pulls is like 50% or something like that. in my mind it better be >90% if im going to risk it.

[deft aspen]

whats better

[raven cipher]

Hey yguys I wanted to ask if annihilation operation spoils all the potential enemy characters in the game, because ive been holding off on playing some of the stages

[dreamy carbon]

use s1 for canta

[fervent compass]

i have been

[median fable]

getting both rate up ops in 300 pulls in a limited banner is a 92% chance

[nimble kite]

Dawn.

[dreamy carbon]

first time it happened to me was chen alter where i had like 280 pulls and the game gave me 11 mizuki and i had to pay to get the last 20 pulls

[median fable]

getting both in 200 pulls is 78%

[dreamy carbon]

of course every other limited before her, i had like 150 pulls gor each of them and never got any

[median fable]

heck, in 130 pulls it's a basically a 50/50 to get both

[late willow]

wrong. i was also wrong. its like 94% for specific one.

[fervent compass]

do we have an estimate on how long i can save b4 hoshi?

[late willow]

where did you get this? thanks.

[signal dragon]

krooster

[median fable]

do you realise this also says 92% for both?

[faint cloud]

https://samidare.io/arknights/gacha

[late willow]

yeah. apparently im really unlucky. i already knew that though.
i think ill stick with saving 300. my luck is so bad. might as well.
cant wait to get struck by lightning.

[median fable]

seems even more generous with like a 93%

[faint cloud]

it happens

[fervent compass]

🙏

[fair tulip]

Her banner is January so approx

[faint cloud]

thankfully arknights is a game where you can make (almost) anything work with enough strategy

[fervent compass]

Jesus thats a long time to save thanks

[dreamy carbon]

i feel you man, i suggest you keep like 50/60 pulls for the collab at hoshi's banner so that if you get railed you probably will get the collab unit

[faint cloud]

just remember that saving for hoshi is also saving for collab if you want that

it'll be like... right after

[deft aspen]

the is5 ending 1 boss is at the end of floor 5?

[late willow]

oh hell no. im saving 120 for collab events even if i have to skip all other banners.

[dreamy carbon]

you don't need the 20, they give them to you

[faint cloud]

that's the safe choice, and probably the better one too

[late willow]

let me check the wiki. am i dumb.

[dreamy carbon]

idk how many event nodes there are but it's probably 5 pulls

[faint cloud]

they always give 20 pulls on collab

now speaking of collab, any hopes for the 2nd MonHun one?

[deft aspen]

should i use 2 plans to reach the down stage or advance forward, i have 5 plans

[late willow]

wiki says theres 2 free pulls from the bang dream event.

[faint cloud]

2 free 10-pulls

[ivory terrace]

2x 10-pull

[dreamy carbon]

i also probably gonna skip silverash alter for the monster hunter collab since i'll need to pull yato as well

[late willow]

oh 2 permits. i have to adjust my calculations but results will be the same.

[deft aspen]

20 free pulls on saikiko banner?

[prisma thorn]

huh? is a new monster hunter collab announced

[faint cloud]

yes

[dreamy carbon]

the 20 counts for the ones you get from the stages or not

[prisma thorn]

am I being lied to or is this factual

[faint cloud]

based on MHRise now

[late willow]

afaik event was announced on the 6.5 cn livestream

[prisma thorn]

they give you 2 10 pulls

[dreamy carbon]

those lazy bums just gave a teaser and didn't show the good stuff 😭

[prisma thorn]

I don't check news 💔 I just log in and neglect my base for 3 days

[late willow]

youre missing like 50k lmd and exp daily

[prisma thorn]

80k

[faint cloud]

i didn't think i could like arknights any more but there it is, rise collab

[prisma thorn]

my base produces like 70k-80k lmd
I just don't bother to rotate it

[faint cloud]

which reminds of the long forgotten Destiny 2 collab

right after teasing the collab, Destiny imploded

[late willow]

my 252 base only produces like 50k. i maxed the right side. 🙁

[faint cloud]

if they tried that with Warframe tho...

[neat kayak]

can i get pulls with IS or nah?

[prisma thorn]

I have right side max too, I just have a semi built base

[deft aspen]

whats best here? option 3?

[torpid zealot]

If I pull another 6* instead of the banner one. Is the next 6* guaranteed to be the banner?

[late willow]

i actually have no idea why my income is so bad. should i send screenshots of my rotations?

[prisma thorn]

surely you have proviso
minimum 50k daily

[signal dragon]

sounds like no proviso

[ivory terrace]

"this aren't no hoyo gacha"

[late willow]

i am using proviso. shes in my krooster in my about me.

[prisma thorn]

are you droning tp

[neat kayak]

nope, you can lose five 50/50s in a row

[torpid zealot]

Damnnn so I need 150 pulls for guaranteed? But the income is so low :'l

[late willow]

im droning exp, which is more efficient

[torpid zealot]

Halp

[prisma thorn]

might be why your lmd sucks

[neat kayak]

tf you mean low, i've farmed 40 ish pulls in two days

[signal dragon]

check #r-i-i-c pins for combo guide and yeah most people drone lmd to boost numbers

[ivory terrace]

more than that
cause it's next 6* after that

[neat kayak]

also can i get pulls with IS or RA?

[rain forge]

i just e2’d lemuen my next e2 goal should be silverash right

after i e2 him i should keep everyone else at e1 level 50 right

[faint cloud]

hoyo pity is way higher, Arknights is 60 (you'll probably hit without even needing it)

[torpid zealot]

Where, howww im kinda new. Do i need to use those gold Stones?

[faint cloud]

50% +2% every pull, no?

[neat kayak]

yes, or you can do annihilation stages to farm

[prisma thorn]

it starts at 50

[rain forge]

yall

[torpid zealot]

Im at 80 without it...

[late willow]

i checked my base and im getting 150k combined lmd, exp per day, going by the 3 day average.
good or bad?

[faint cloud]

oh yeah, that's right

[prisma thorn]

it's uhh alright(ish)

[torpid zealot]

Yea, they kinda hard as a new player for now tho

[ivory terrace]

2% + 2% per pull past 50 without 6*

[late willow]

should i send base rotations?

[prisma thorn]

#r-i-i-c they'd have better advice probably

[ruby galleon]

Hm do i pick specter or ptiloptisiis whatever her name is

[signal dragon]

ptilo

[ruby galleon]

Oke

[late willow]

arknights pity, iirc starts at 50 pulls, +2% per pull until 100% at 100.
then why am i uisng 99 pulls for my calculations. im dumb.

[keen fulcrum]

What’s the best skill for green blaze (monster)

[fiery lynx]

surajj

[ancient current]

she generally uses s2, s3 sees use as well

[lone valley]

Dont call her that, ill kill you
S2/s3

[ancient current]

s3 mainly in IS5

[flat hamlet]

Is Ho'olhyeok any good? For general stuff?

[keen fulcrum]

[ancient current]

for general content she will work, like anyone else
but she is not a good operator

[flat hamlet]

Alright, thanks!

[prisma thorn]

ummmm uhhh she uhh is module soon
usable mayhaps

[maiden thunder]

Stinky

[flat hamlet]

Will hold on then

[ancient current]

is module is shit

[clever cedar]

Dusk tier IS module

[maiden thunder]

Beta module trust

[prisma thorn]

is there even any significance of her module applying levitate on skill?
don't her skills already apply levitate

[late willow]

any ways to farm highest tier module blocks besides red certs?
this time gate is painful.

[prisma thorn]

"Ho'olheyak's skills will inflict Levitate and damage an enemy and the other enemies around them."
this is just pseudo aoe caster isn't it

[formal shadow]

How broken is leaking for levitate?

[maiden thunder]

Just take Angelina man🥹

[prisma thorn]

what if they don't have Angelina! Angelina is kernel and hoolheyak isn't!

[maiden thunder]

Check IS monthlies,SSS

[keen fulcrum]

Mon3tr S2 is worth mastering right. Just checking before I use the ticket

[formal shadow]

Then they should've certed angelina

[maiden thunder]

Use the ticket for tragodia s2 instead

[late willow]

but sss is only tier1 and tier2?

[maiden thunder]

There is rewards for first clears(includes module blocks)

[keen fulcrum]

I already maxed tragodia S2 before I decided to play IS and got the ticket

[rain forge]

do any upcoming banners have proviso as their featured 5*

[prisma thorn]

I would rather cert weedy

[maiden thunder]

Lemuen s3

[formal shadow]

Just get proviso from anniversary selector

[median fable]

do you want us to be warned?

[keen fulcrum]

Also done with Lemuen S3 lol

[severe crypt]

Idt we even illegally know that man

[rain forge]

oh

[median fable]

[ashen pewter]

do any of the joint ops units go to the yellow cert shop? or do I need to wait for them to get their own banner?

[rain forge]

i thought banner patterns were the same as cn

[median fable]

you've been here for long enough to know this type of questions aren't answerable

[maiden thunder]

Then yeah,do mon3tr s2

[visual crag]

what skill is the best for narantuya

[severe crypt]

Standard rotating and kernel always differ from cn

[median fable]

yeah, the event banners. Not the rotating and kernel

[rain forge]

oh mb

[ashen pewter]

are they not?

oh huh alr

[median fable]

en follows roughly the same order of event banners like debut, rerun, limited, collab banners

[ashen pewter]

@formal shadow by 👉 do u mean I gotta wait for them to get their own banner? 😭

[rain forge]

anniversairy selector will let us pick one 6 and one 5* op right

[ashen pewter]

Yeah makes sense ig, hoping we get around the same amount of time or more between next limited and the collab

[maiden thunder]

Free 6* selector is limited to 4 bums

[rain forge]

i heard surtr was good

[ivory terrace]

upcoming one ye
6* from CN summer, just 4 options
5* is just typical anni selector

[median fable]

the 6* is between surtr, eyja, saria and bagpipe
the 5* doesn't comprehend all the new ones

[ashen pewter]

She is and she's the best choice for that selector, especially if u have Exu alter

[median fable]

key word being "was"

[ivory terrace]

it's regardless actually

[maiden thunder]

Unless u are strapped on dps,get gold certs

[rain forge]

game cursed me with the cripple instead of the one that slowly cripples themselves

[prisma thorn]

it's not 2021 anymore

[ashen pewter]

Lemuen still OP tho

[lone valley]

Another "exu2 s3 surtr redeploy" coper
Point and fucking laugh

[nimble kite]

We'll have HoshiAlter strategy
Trust

[ashen pewter]

Complain all you want, surtr is nice when you have some beefy mobs you quickly want to get rid of

[prisma thorn]

surtr is mid now
way better options in 2025

[ashen pewter]

Is she the best nowadays? Nope, far from it, but she's not bad by any means lol

[rain forge]

my lemuen already does that with her s2 💔

[lone valley]

Suprise
Those "beefy enemies" will be taken care of by exu herself

[severe crypt]

Are we really that afraid to call a unit bad these days

[late willow]

how many? i dont see it.

[formal shadow]

Yeah

[ashen pewter]

damn alr, ty

[maiden thunder]

Click on the stage then top right

[median fable]

Surtr isn't bad though, she's just mid

[ashen pewter]

She's good just lacking compared to newer units because of powercreep lol

[lone valley]

Ofc not
I'll do it
Surtr is fucking washed

[ivory terrace]

it's more like
saria u can get from newbie selector
bagpipe in 2025
caster eyja uhm

[rain forge]

alright so uh who do i sl3 first

myrtle lemuen sash or trag

[median fable]

she's not good

[ashen pewter]

I'm not even gonna bother lol

[late willow]

wow thanks. ive been skipping sss for years now. i think i missed out on like 20 tier3.

[lone valley]

Hoshi2 is literaly surtr but better

[quick heath]

Penance worth building?

[rain forge]

yall

[median fable]

a unit who survives for some seconds and then dies can't be called good nowdays since we have ops who deals way more while still surviving and being ready to use the skill again

[maiden thunder]

What the hell is sl3?

[severe crypt]

Skill level 3?

Just say m3

[prisma thorn]

sm3?

[rain forge]

specialisation level

[severe crypt]

That’s called mastery 3 or m3

[lone valley]

Holy moly

[ivory terrace]

skill level 3

[rain forge]

[maiden thunder]

Go play IS5 till lvl 65 for free m3 ticket use it on lemuen s3 and m3s3 sash u prob don't have the mats for tragodia s2m3(don't bother with myrtle)

[ashen pewter]

wait thats a thing? does IS4 have it too?

[median fable]

is6 does though

[late willow]

check the wiki bro

[maiden thunder]

IS6 will tho

[ashen pewter]

lit alr

[rain forge]

my runs keep on getting obliterated at floor 3

[median fable]

brutal

[median fable]

play better

[rain forge]

also uh cant i just use the ticket on tragodia instead of lem or sash

[late willow]

event rewards are always in the wiki
i have skill issue too

[dire whale]

who do i replace beagle for aside from sankta

[rain forge]

cuora

[formal shadow]

Cuora is an option

[ashen pewter]

I gotta go grind IS6 ;-;

[late willow]

your 4* are cheap and powerful
gummy is most vertisle

[prisma thorn]

global doesn't have it yet (I think?)

[maiden thunder]

Sash has a more accessible mat and sure tragodia s2 will be fine but it also takes less nodules compared to lemuen s3 while not being a primary dps skill which you'll need more as a newbie

[dire whale]

so i build cuora cuz i need someone to replace beagle?

[ashen pewter]

it doesnt, mistyped

[rain forge]

ah alr

[formal shadow]

Yeah basically. Good low rarity option for tanking until you get someone better

[dire whale]

i see thank you

[late willow]

and you probably shouldnt build sankta. expensive but not meta.

[maiden thunder]

Unless it ulpi or shu u honestly don't need a better tank

[rain forge]

operator levels provide minimal stat buffs right

[serene kindle]

Is tragodia module worth it? Or just a minor upgrade for him?

[prisma thorn]

mod3 worth

[void ivy]

After a certain lvl, the stats gain do is little, but no

[serene kindle]

Thank you. And whats the current best trading post combo?

[late willow]

stopping points for e2 are lv20, 60, or 90.
60 if you need module. 90 if theyre highly used.

[dire whale]

sorry for ping but is there someone better than cuora in side stories

[rain forge]

alr

[prisma thorn]

max worldly plight mr nothing
proviso

[serene kindle]

What is worldly plight? Like, what operators are part of it

[prisma thorn]

if you need to ask, you probably don't have it

not worth going out of your way to get it

[median fable]

check base combo file in #r-i-i-c in the special section
high chance you're lacking one of the many limiteds there

[late willow]

iirc side stories give 5* and 6*. 5 star are not efficient to build. and there are no other welfare 6 star defenders.

[rain forge]

perchance if proviso ever did show up in a banner would it be worth pulling or is it better to just wait for anni selector

[lone valley]

(All of them suck balls)

[median fable]

Miksa just got released btw (so a 6* welfare defender exists)

[serene kindle]

I probably do, but I didn't give two shits about base until now cause I'm out of lmd

[late willow]

read: no other.
they have sankta.

[chilly juniper]

is kaltsit still good nowadays? at the start i used her as a medic and tank since thats all i had but now i have better medics and better tanks, im thinking of getting her to e2 but idk if she's still good so if not i'd rather not invest

[lone valley]

Fine in IS
Daily usage whatever

[median fable]

mainly used in IS, outside that don't bring her unless you need true dmg and she's your only option

[severe crypt]

You can still have a good base even without exodia

[chilly juniper]

why is she good in is? cus 2 roles in one recruit or?

[void ivy]

Her IS module

[median fable]

alpha mod made her viable and 6* medics kinda shit

[rain forge]

yall

[chilly juniper]

ahh i see, didnt know she had one

[rain forge]

between sash trag and lem mod what’s better

[late willow]

check the banner schedule in the wiki
probably not

[nimble zenith]

lem>sash>trag

[chilly juniper]

oh damn, multiple target healing and mons3tr's biggest downside just removed, i see...

[prisma thorn]

chongyue, dusk, ling, mulberry, mr nothing

[median fable]

and other 2 suis

[severe crypt]

What about the perception interference team

[rain forge]

alr

[median fable]

that's the 2nd part of Exodia with Ros and Whisperain (and no need for Chong)

[serene kindle]

Ok, i do have them except chongus, I'll check what they do. Thank you

[late willow]

you shouldnt elite 2 for base. only elite 1.
unless its proviso tier.

[median fable]

chong is core for WP combo

[severe crypt]

Actually, does exodia require more logins than a generic base setup?

[prisma thorn]

5 wp per sui

[serene kindle]

Well, fuck

[median fable]

nope, you never overcap if you login every 12 hours

unlike Automation that caps after 8 hrs iirc

[prisma thorn]

just check #r-i-i-c pins for team combos
not worth the effort of building multiple operators just for max proviso production

(unless you're giga rich)

[median fable]

just e2 Vigil (don't)

[daring meteor]

if virtuosa S2 is activated and the buffed operator is tragodia, will the cat also cause necrosis or will it only cause nervous impairment

[prisma thorn]

easier than wp

[late willow]

whats the roi on building proviso and mr nothing lol
i already have them built. just curious.

[median fable]

try it and let us know. Be the change you wanna see

[daring meteor]

fair enough i do have virtuosa and tragodia on is, brb

[prisma thorn]

idk it'll still take quite a while considering you're building like 7 operators

[late willow]

7? i meant the team of 2

[turbid ocean]

Mr Nothing is dependent on a team which is very expensive

He doesn’t do much by himself

[median fable]

cope Nothing gameplay usage and the roi is 0

[turbid ocean]

Proviso has low ROI like a few months at most

[late willow]

yeah but iirc proviso is nearly twice as efficient as shamare team.

[median fable]

like 6 months depending on the partner

[daring meteor]

update: the cat slaughtered the mobs and i cant figure if necrosis applied or not

[signal dragon]

e2 ling, chonyue, dusk, mulberry
having shu, nian and yu gives more production too
expensive af

(all for mr nothing)

[prisma thorn]

does chongyue wp have a cap? or could it hypothetically keep going until every sui is playable

[late willow]

yeah but team of 2 5* shouldnt be that expensive so i was wondering.
obviously 6* are more expensive.

[turbid ocean]

The cat will almost definitely apply nervous faster

So you may not even know whether it’s doing any Necrosis

[daring meteor]

fair enough

[signal dragon]

Mr nothing doesn't function without the whole team

[daring meteor]

probably better to just redirect necro to someone else

[late willow]

oh i fucked up? i must check base combos NOW

[ivory terrace]

iirc capped at 5 suis incld. himself

[ancient current]

doesn't exodia need allat to be functional

[signal dragon]

could always e2 vigil if you're maxed right, gives 40% in tp

[prisma thorn]

he needs wp to gain production %

[ivory terrace]

baseline nothing is only 20% tops

[prisma thorn]

looks pretty doable for a player who just pulls every (limited) banner

[lone valley]

Only missing daughter

[fiery lynx]

no yu?
-5%

[ancient current]

i mean i only lack 3 ops here so surely i can setup some makeshift exodia comp

[formal shadow]

If only

[prisma thorn]

time to fix your base!

[ivory terrace]

if u alrdy had 5 suis in base, having yu changes nothing

[formal shadow]

Surely I'll offrate chongus next sui banner

[ancient current]

do you absolutely need 5 suis?

[prisma thorn]

for max productivity yea, but you can just have a little less if not

[late willow]

the worldly plights team looks too complicated. my stupid ass will need riirc channel to help me.

[prisma thorn]

5 suis spoon-feed mr nothing worldly plight

[ancient current]

i have 3 suis... idk if i can make it viable...

[late willow]

i have all suis. but how do i figure out if ifs worth it to swap members of my other teams. 😭

[pale peak]

Is tippi good

[formal shadow]

I have 4 sui but I don't have the one I need

[prisma thorn]

70% productivity (I think?)

[ivory terrace]

as long as u have the core of dusk ling chongus u r fine

[ancient current]

i only lack dusk ling nian

[late willow]

only lol

[prisma thorn]

it's cooked! not worth!

[torn elbow]

Is ray good?

[ancient current]

yes

[ancient current]

not worth your time, check pins

[formal shadow]

Take my dusk pot 🥹

[prisma thorn]

help channel turned into riic momentarily

[signal dragon]

happens often

[torn elbow]

How built does my team have to be to clear annihilation missions?

[signal dragon]

anni 1 is pretty easy
anni 2 a slight step up
you should be fine as a new player

[late willow]

take a look at youtube clears. one good elite2 6 star plus 11 elite 1 should easily clear.
but yeah anni1 should be clearable by elite1 team.

[torn elbow]

Ok

[pearl forge]

is annihilation something that i should be doing for events, or it doesnt matter and i can play it next year?

[late willow]

always do annihilation. it resets weekly. dont you want orundum?

[pearl forge]

oh ye, i meant IS, whops. Is IS something that i can do later on?

[late willow]

yes IS main rewards dont have a time likit. but i think the monthly missions reset.

[ivory terrace]

altho ideally u shld have swept this week's anni b4 event started

[late willow]

yes but events are 2 to 3 weeks. so you would have to clear 1 or 2 times during event too.

[ivory terrace]

nothing u can do about the other 1-2 weeks ofc

[spare pelican]

Where is ga ex?

[ivory terrace]

"guide ahead" side story

[late willow]

you can click proceed or check wiki

[spare pelican]

Ok

[prisma thorn]

it's grayed (not unlocked)

[spare pelican]

It says i dont have it unlocked

[late willow]

wikis says its in record restorations if you clear 1-10
ive never seen proceed greyed out

[prisma thorn]

record restoration is for the rewards

[ivory terrace]

u will have to unlock the event if u didn't alrdy in the scores

[late willow]

i have the stages available? idk

[prisma thorn]

that means you've unlocked it 😭

[ivory terrace]

event stages perma open after rerun
unless intermezzi

[nimble zenith]

so true bestie

[late willow]

ive never unlocked an old event so i woudlnt know
🆒

[nimble zenith]

ok

[versed stone]

Why is this so expensive

[prisma thorn]

idk ask the game

[versed stone]

Like this is super duper expensive I do not have any of that mat left I already used on exusiai and mylnar

[lone valley]

Well, too bad idk what to tell u

[late willow]

why are you complaining in this channel though. theres general.

[rain forge]

should i continue doing IS till IS level 65 for the m3 ticket or do it later

My runs crumble to dust on floor 2-3

[abstract mauve]

this is more IS related than welfare related but ye. the mod does fuck all. i didnt realize how usable and not bad her original is6 mod was untill we got the shit that was her new mod

[late willow]

probably not then. takes too long.

[rain forge]

alr

[abstract mauve]

her original is6 mod literally does nothing but her newer one does nothing harder 🗣️

[nimble zenith]

what makes her good

[abstract mauve]

raidian? is6 buffs on a decent unit

normally you wouldnt use summoners but is6 buffs kinda crazy

[nimble zenith]

oh so it’s is6 specific but not bc of her mod

[viscid flint]

Dumb question: how do i use ines

[prisma thorn]

deploy
use s2 when enemies are near

[ancient current]

shileds hi
in the end, is coldshot still better than snow hunter?

[abstract mauve]

ye. mod is more of the icing. but like the icing is a bit 🤏

[late willow]

lol see dragongjy showcase

[viscid flint]

Thanks

[abstract mauve]

original is6 mod gives her good summon economy which is at least something

[median crest]

guys, for rosmo modA, it has to be [caster] items, it can't be subclass specific items like book of undulation right?

[abstract mauve]

do you mean hand of undulation? the book isnt subclass specific

[median crest]

oh wait, yeah the hand

[median fable]

not all of them, half of these are basically optional or just bad

[median fable]

outside IS you'd use the other mod for more atk?

[abstract mauve]

sure ig? outside is mod doesnt matter

[mild torrent]

what level do i need with tragodia to get proc with only 1 cat

[median fable]

well, stats are still stats

[lone valley]

82 mod3
88 mod2

[abstract mauve]

thats for 1 cat against bosses

[lone valley]

Thought that was the deeper point
Just for first time since the universe's birth, lvl an op to 90

[violet topaz]

is this on regular enemies or on bosses since they have higher threshold

[lone valley]

Bosses ofc, regular goobers are whatever

[violet topaz]

noted

[hidden nacelle]

is there an ange s1 angle with IS mod

[lone valley]

[hidden nacelle]

:3

[coarse notch]

no

[real ridge]

Does this team look good?

[spare pelican]

Is this the side story for exu2 module?

Ok, thx

[real ridge]

Or well is there anything I could fix

[lone valley]

I mean, sure
Half the squad is a fine candidate to be replaced but if theres not much you have, than its a good squad

[proven kelp]

Myrtle is there, ready to getting killed

[lone valley]

Mafufu

[proven kelp]

[bleak scarab]

how long until Ascalon reruns?

[lone valley]

She already has like 2 months aho

[sonic crypt]

Lumen and Sankta

[frank wing]

I dont have Virtuosa. Nymph s2 or s3?

[sonic crypt]

2

o right, does Nymph requires specific level like Trag S2?

[signal dragon]

no
she's a fear bot

[deft aspen]

which is better

[hot wigeon]

thats just for unlocking ending 2

[deft aspen]

is it a lot harder than ending 1

[hot wigeon]

i would say no but thats based on my operators pool

maybe harder for you if you dont have the right ops, end 2 needs elemental damage or true damage or displacement

[deft aspen]

for bp farming end1 is better, right? unless ican do eding4 5

[lone valley]

[chrome tiger]

You can also just pick top option and use the ending thoughts as regular relic thoughts

[deft aspen]

oh nice to know, thanks!

which is better for her

[chrome tiger]

Personally i think s1

[ancient current]

s2 is the generally used skill

I have seen s1 used in literally one (1) situation and it was cope

[weary marten]

Is Qiubai worth to build i pulling on tragodia banner hoping to get off banner and got her

[ancient current]

you'd usually be blocking anyways so the downside isnt significant

mystic caster s1 all suck balls

[ancient current]

shes fine but not prio

[abstract mauve]

the best mystic caster s1 is actually the one indigo has lmao

[turbid ocean]

Mystic caster S1 oh god

[ancient current]

because indigo has a kit thats not shit

[abstract mauve]

because indigo has a special s1 that's 1 second shorter :shusmug:

[ancient current]

harmonie has an extra special s1 that has the wrong skill background

[viscid flint]

What naruntuya skill do i m3?

[abstract mauve]

[ancient current]

s3 > s1

[viscid flint]

Thanks

[turbid ocean]

S3 >= S1 *

[abstract mauve]

this light guy bro 3d graphs and all

[turbid ocean]

S1 can out DPS in some scenarios

[abstract mauve]

exactly 2 tiles away and all 3 enemies are above each other. how broken

[turbid ocean]

2 enemies S1 also wins

[warped depot]

Is Rockrock a good upgrade from Click, or should I just stick to the latter?

[abstract mauve]

do you have any 6* caster?

[turbid ocean]

Rock rock is better unless your click is already E1 max

[warped depot]

Rockrock not worth E2ing?

[turbid ocean]

Uh depends on state of account

You can E2 if you already done with 6* DPS prio and base ops

[hearty geyser]

should i spend some sanity on annihilation to get more pulls for tragodia?

[proven kelp]

You always want to spend sanity on Annihilation

[warped depot]

Does Amiya's level transfer between class conversions?

[proven kelp]

Yes, all transfer except mastery and module ( and skin )

[earnest sparrow]

do these have any use?

[late willow]

i believe those are banned tiles

[earnest sparrow]

what are those?

[late willow]

wait no way

[young glacier]

Literally "can't deploy melee units here" come on you never seen one so far?

[late willow]

nvm those should be normal tiles with a different texture

[abstract mauve]

those are banned tiles

[severe crypt]

those are indeed banned tiles

[late willow]

yep banned tiles. its ad-3.
they can be on melee or ranged tiles.

[young glacier]

They just slapped some textures to flex that new engine

[proven abyss]

where is the bean from? i keep seeing it

[earnest sparrow]

oh just haven't seen the terminology "banned" being used before

[deft aspen]

Are these options related to specific endings?

[inland vale]

this unc good?

got him instead of tragodia

[inland vale]

square box = vs patriot sankta (ending 3)
lotus petals = ending 4

[deft aspen]

Thanks a lot!

[inland vale]

chat, mlynar worth module?

[edgy stone]

Yuh

[abstract mauve]

good question. no idea. this one is reed bean tho
bean is a general community thing due to the sui siblings but like idk who draws these

[hearty geyser]

is there any other caster who can replace ifrit for south prison annihilation i checked kyostinv's video but i cant get any ifrits by refresing support

[ancient lintel]

Where can I buy the beans plushies

[abstract mauve]

you are asking the wrong person
i have no clue

[tiny vault]

Should I really get e2 lvl 10 for 5-7, I'm kinda broke rn after e2ing vulpis

[vital kelp]

china

fanmade stuff either check xianyu or xiaohongshu, official stuff check taobao

[earnest sparrow]

is it efficient to farm LMDs in supply stages

[onyx maple]

Hey guys between ascalon and monster who should i E2 first?

[late willow]

no. you should prefer lmd from base but farm it if you need it

[late willow]

maybe w alter. range should be almost there.

[hearty geyser]

wis?

[onyx maple]

But skill 2 is still the best on ascalon?

[ancient lintel]

No, you get them from base
Which if you havent check out who to use as baee slaves, #bot-spam /base n /baseskills be upon ye

[late willow]

yes wis adel. its annihilation so you can retreat with no penalty before 400 kills.

[hearty geyser]

s3?

[onyx maple]

Or should she use skill 3?

[late willow]

the other 2 blast casters are aroma and corroserum. but i doubt you have them leveled.

[late willow]

yeah thats probably be better bc shes the hard carry. or s2.

[ancient lintel]

Just use wis in the middle, South Prison ye?

[lilac arch]

It is efficient to farm IS for LMD*

[late willow]

yeah anni 11

[onyx maple]

?

[lilac arch]

I reacted, S2 her main skill

[late willow]

oh yeah wis to the right of click should be better than that ifrit tile

[onyx maple]

Oh mb didnt see, thx

[ancient lintel]

Wisadel + thorns is enough for south prison

[polar hollow]

is the crystaline farm in path of life rerun any good?

[ancient lintel]

You dont need to follow kyo's premium guide

[warped blaze]

Who should I prioritze e2 next?

[earnest sparrow]

should I build tragodia as a beginner??

[vital kelp]

sort by rarity

[lilac arch]

SA

[late willow]

prob level your 3* and 4* first

[lilac arch]

Or base slaves

[ancient lintel]

Borrow a wis and speed run IS5 for the insta m3 ticket, should save you a lot of time from farming that ep 15 mats

[vital kelp]

e2 3*? pls teach me sensei

[late willow]

💀

[warped blaze]

Here

[late willow]

3* + wisadel should clear

[hearty geyser]

if i place it like in the video the range is wrong but i think if i place wis in the middle facing right it works

[proven abyss]

Will pity from trag banner transfer to anything?

[late willow]

yeah middle should be fine. my bad.

[ancient lintel]

https://youtu.be/L-IpWLXC0EQ?si=sXVjj7Tx4AsEQLwc
Here's a more simple guide, more button clicking but only demands wis + thorns, 1 of which you can borrow

[lilac arch]

6* pity will carry over but not the guarantee pity

[late willow]

yes its a shared pity with other standard banners

[hearty geyser]

i have thorns e2 lvl 20 that works?

[proven abyss]

To the next standard focus banner right?

[earnest sparrow]

well I haven't even reached 3-8 haha

[late willow]

yeah you should level your low rarity operators first

[ancient lintel]

Get sash to e2 then work on proviso, use her specifically for base only, she's not built for combat

[abstract mauve]

just try to get tragodia reach a point where he is able to proc the nervous impairment on a normal enemy in 1 cat usage and you'll be good

[ancient lintel]

Well, help him out
The core is only 2 ops, you have 10 more slots to help the 2 core ops out if they're lacking DPS or something

[median prawn]

ulpan vs white tiger guy (iforgothisname) for laneholding?

[lilac arch]

Mountain, ulpi better

[abstract mauve]

thorns without mod or masteries is fucking dogshit

[ancient lintel]

Ulpi 100%
Mountain is whatever

[median prawn]

How about dp wise?

[hearty geyser]

true ty

[ancient lintel]

At least he's usable now

[abstract mauve]

no. it doesnt. he wont be doing shit

[lilac arch]

Doesn't really matter

[late willow]

mountain cheaper start but most stages should prefer ulpianius

[abstract mauve]

you have not tried an underbuilt thorns

[late willow]

its just anni 11. thorns e2 should be fine?

[ancient lintel]

I've been through that process bruh trust, I know how different he his modless and masteriesless

[median prawn]

nahhh I have this guy at lvl 50 e2 no mod and hes so buns 😭

[proven abyss]

I have trag e2 lvl 90 skill lvl 7 with his mod1 is that enough?

[ancient lintel]

Should be fine ngl

[lilac arch]

I tried using him with mod on latter chapters and man he's ass 😭

[abstract mauve]

if you got him to lvl 90 already, i would go s2m3 and mod2+ so that he can proc nervous impairment in 1 cat

[vital kelp]

nahhhh bruh i have thorn e2 90 s3m3 mod3 hes still ass

[proven abyss]

I cant get his trust to lvl up fast enoguh

[ancient lintel]

It's just annihilation, what can possibly go wrong

[lilac arch]

He's just an annihilation slave until sakiko

[median prawn]

his only use is afknights

[late willow]

yeah his startup is fine in annihilation
i dont see the problem. its a duo with wis.

[signal dragon]

just put him in base, use him in your autos and you'll get 100 trust soon

[abstract mauve]

im just letting you know for the future. cuz the difference between like an e1 lvl 80 tragodia and yours isnt that big in usage. at least getting mod and masteries on s2 would make it more worthwhile

[ancient lintel]

I am indeed an afknights enjoyer

[proven abyss]

The activity room? I didnt that autos increases trust, thanks for da tip

[late willow]

2 extra clicks is ew

[vital kelp]

south prison anni is full of big blocks and these stat from level are gonna matter

[signal dragon]

base assistant in control center too

[abstract mauve]

if thorns is doing anything other than just blocking, the stats would matter a lot

[late willow]

idk. i dont even remember doing anni 11. i dont remember it being hard.

[vital kelp]

i do cuz i had to play chalter solo carry back in the days without wisadel

[abstract mauve]

it's not particularly hard. it's just that showing a guide where thorns is supposedly doing something with mod and masteries and when someone asks if a modless thorns 50 levels lower and no masteries fill the same role then i'd say there's an issue

[vital kelp]

all together from level, mod, and mastery that thorn has like 300-400 less dph?

[ancient lintel]

Which is why I tell him to use fillers to help thorns out

[abstract mauve]

you kinda imply that he'd be useful at all when you help him out

he'd likely be close to as useful as flamebringer in the same map

[onyx maple]

Guys what about tragodia, what skill to use?

[flat hamlet]

2️⃣

[rancid badge]

2 or 3
But mostly 2

[onyx maple]

Thx

[proven abyss]

does this mean it wont carry over 150+ pity?

[rancid badge]

I have him but idk when should I e2 him

[lilac arch]

That doesn't carry over correct

[vital kelp]

yes

[hearty geyser]

uh also who would help him the most there silverash or ascalon

[ancient lintel]

Asca

[hearty geyser]

asca is e1 tho silverash is e2 i forgot to say

[ancient lintel]

Thorns lacks DPS with no mod and masteries, so asca's slow and DOT should help thorns out

[abstract mauve]

bring both

[hearty geyser]

deployment limit exists

[abstract mauve]

i dont remember it being that low

[proven abyss]

what would you guys spend on event shop? im guessing the mats?

[ancient lintel]

Adapt and improvise, I gave you the strat, just alter it a bit base on your squad

[hearty geyser]

deployment limit is 10

[abstract mauve]

10 is like all your ops. cant you just bring both?

[hearty geyser]

i can bring both i cant deploy both

[slender temple]

Is there a way for me to try out annihilation without spending sanity

[abstract mauve]

what ops are you gonna have deployed?

[proven kelp]

You can close the app before you complete the run to not spend any sanity
Tho ofc you're not getting any rewards

[hearty geyser]

this is what it looks like right now and im gonna deploy ascalon to the tile near thorns

[proven kelp]

The hell is happening on left
The dudes that spawn there are fking crippled

[shell furnace]

Odd request
-# anyone have the name of the piano song in 14-22?

[hearty geyser]

i was gonna bring kroos alt then i forgot and decided to use exualt

[lilac arch]

I havent done it but maybe its babel ost, check just in case

[proven kelp]

You literally can just use Melantha and done
Enemies there literally cannot hit back

No point using 2 units there

[hearty geyser]

i was following the video and they put kroos and humus so idk

ulpi should be enough then? i can use exualt to help thorns

[proven kelp]

Ulpi is overkill if anything but yes
Anyone is enough there

[hearty geyser]

what do those guys do anyways

[abstract mauve]

nothing until they are woken up by either the boss or the big guys with ball chains
afterwards they are casters

[proven kelp]

They literally do nothing until the boss or one of the elites remove their chains, but if the elite do that and if you didn't kill them fast enough before the boss unchain them then there's something wrong with your strat if you allowed them to live that long

[hearty geyser]

should i just deploy exualt there facing downwards cuz she might steal some atk speed from wis

[ancient lintel]

Retreat before the 100th enemy maybe?

[real hare]

Should I prioritize upgrading modules (Trag/Log) or getting Ulp Module

[abstract mauve]

is your logos mod delta max?

[real hare]

No

[proven kelp]

Just last deploy a blocker so wis doesn't get stolen

[abstract mauve]

i'd work on that. ulpi mod is not a priority. i'd e2 narantuya and degenbrecher first

[crisp dawn]

Might also be Succession

[real hare]

ok

[proven kelp]

I'd work on Ines first
You already have more then enough things to kill, I'd rather have something to drop units faster

[abstract mauve]

i completely zoned out ines. do invest some in ines. also are these all your units?

[real hare]

these are the other 4 not shown

[proven kelp]

Finish Ines then start doing Mlynar

[abstract mauve]

i'd say prio overall is ines mlynar and logos mod

[real hare]

okok

[thick oak]

Who has higher dps, tragodia or logos s3

[real hare]

am i illiterate or am i illiterate

[real hare]

TWO THOUSAND STICKS

[lilac arch]

Happens when your account is older than Chen alter being meta

[real hare]

i started like a month ago i have NOTHING

[lilac arch]

I started 6 months ago! 4 years ago...

[real hare]

I see and how lucky have you been with pulls over the years

[ancient lintel]

May I have some of that please, my activity rooms are still lv1

[lilac arch]

Best treatment Ive recieved from a gacha and its not even close

[ancient lintel]

Pretty sure logos wins, since dmg isnt trag's selling point

[severe crypt]

That’s a you problem 🥱

[prime cypress]

what's best skill to max for tragodia

i will never read the pins

[abstract mauve]

i cant open the pins rn since no wifi

cant read it to you unfortunately

[proven kelp]

This is beyond my paygrade

[real hare]

true

[lilac arch]

you are getting paid?

[median fable]

I can answer if you want

[real hare]

am i suppose to just stack and stack

[proven kelp]

Yes

Why is GG prematurely placed

[real hare]

who's GG

[inner stratus]

yeah how dare you

[lilac arch]

[severe crypt]

I think this could be the tutorial

[proven kelp]

GG is GoldenGlow
The idea behind using her in SSS is to stack as much Caster + Specialist on her to wipe the whole map

[median fable]

thx, you stopped the spoonfeeding

[real hare]

A. SSS uses my units?...

[vital kelp]

before we had people asking to ask, now we have people asking to answer now?

[wise cipher]

when should i consider tragodia S3 over S2?

[vital kelp]

i can answer if you want

[median fable]

almost never. One of the rare use case is in ccb4

[real hare]

how fast does the difficulty spike?

[lilac arch]

it spikes? , srly tho its pretty easy as long as you stack properly for your carry