help

[bitter anvil]

Thankyou Willard

[copper oracle]

idk i dint pointfarm

[humble arrow]

It reduce every zap

[humble arrow]

Bro i been playing forever and didnt clear out shop yet

[copper oracle]

it gets reduced tho how is she still highest block

[random ether]

so it can go down to 0?

[copper oracle]

u can check block count in battle...

[humble arrow]

It goes down to 1 then he starts zapping your ranged ops

[copper oracle]

complete the story

[random ether]

to be honest the clutter is really bad sometimes so i did not see the icon

[humble arrow]

I did complete story bro

[copper oracle]

dont need to see the icon just read the mechanics and keep a mental note
or pause and check block stats in battle

[copper oracle]

how r u not done then

[random ether]

regardless in these hardcore events with a limited time I already don't spend enough time so it makes it hard to want to sit through here for hours making sure i have everything right

[humble arrow]

I even do every strange territory every 3 days

[copper oracle]

well if u dont want to spend time, copy a guide

[random ether]

yeah thats why i wanted to know about arkrec

[humble arrow]

Its actually pretty easy with the buffs tho, no?

[formal shadow]

the best move is to not interact with anything but the gacha

[copper oracle]

ye arkrec has them but theyre not guides
some clears involve specific timings or rng that break the clear if u dont get it

[humble arrow]

Arkrec is more of a flex than guide

[random ether]

I guess I mean they could just not lock out my limited roster of characters too

[copper oracle]

the old 1p relay h9-6 need 1/400 luck for chalter rng ammo refund lol

[humble arrow]

You 100% can clear the newest buff is very op

Read the boss skill desciption is all that is required

[copper oracle]

are there no guides for vec A to D?

[robust thistle]

Player surprised the endgame mode needs a wide roster

[fiery lynx]

But thats the fun lies

[scarlet hawk]

just how big of an upgrade is this for mlynar?

[robust thistle]

A lot

[humble arrow]

It is true garrison mechanic is kinda annoying but this is the end game mode

[random ether]

I mean will this event be out forever?

[scarlet hawk]

oh dang alright

[robust thistle]

No, its time limited

[random ether]

Right thats what i don't like

[copper oracle]

time limited so ass need to prepare and theorycraft strat ahead of time

[robust thistle]

Why

[humble arrow]

Support unit is also a great way to clear these stages man, wisadel almost deletes half the stage already

[copper oracle]

cos u cant take ur time figuring out strats u need to bumrush it which causes mental blocks

[robust thistle]

The sooner you realize as a new player you cant clear every single event, the better

[random ether]

Yeah a limited hard event you have to rush through so i don't want to dedicate my whole week to a few levels i can't beat quickly by testing things

[signal dragon]

do stages after you get trag :ya:

[copper oracle]

well the stages arent hard 🚬

[humble arrow]

Thats honestly the fun part of arknights for a lot of people

[spare flax]

How many hourz until tragodia?

[robust thistle]

No some of the game modes arent balanced for new players

[echo oasis]

I have only 70 pulls... I'm not getting Trag, am I? Is it possible to get 230 pulls within the banner duration?

[humble arrow]

Pin the checks

[copper oracle]

i wish we get more permanent hard content tho

[random ether]

What being on a timer?

[robust thistle]

Also, we know this event is coming 6 months in advance

[lone valley]

How do u propose to get 230 pulls in 2 weeks wise one

[copper oracle]

true...

[echo oasis]

I don't know. That's why I'm asking.

[humble arrow]

Figuring shit out... man what game a new player can clear end game content???

[radiant mantle]

It's a gacha, you'll have to deal with it.

[keen scarab]

just lower your ego and realize new player ofc have their limit (resources, operators, and knowledge)

[robust thistle]

^

[radiant mantle]

It is what it is man

[copper oracle]

time is the biggest resource sink

[echo oasis]

300 pity oh god

[humble arrow]

And honestly, how this game is designed new players CAN clear end game content witht he support unit and good placement

[lone valley]

You dont. That simple

[random ether]

Well thats not the issue its hard content on a timer where obviously no matter how long ahead of time i know its coming sometimes i don't feel like spending a whole week working things out

[robust thistle]

You dont get to have a participation trophy on evert event

[humble arrow]

Your account 100% CAN clear it just so you know

[eager mantle]

Are those the best? Because they seems pretty old

[echo oasis]

So with my luck, Trag is basically out of my reach

[robust thistle]

Yes thats player problem then, not game design problem

[copper oracle]

then whats the difference if theres no timer, u either spend 1 week now or 1 week later
its still the same 1 week

[lone valley]

Just pull and stop stressing bruh
Trag is worth going broke for

[humble arrow]

You want the game to be piss easy all throughout?

[random ether]

The difference is that i literally cannot spend a week on it in a month because its gone lol

[echo oasis]

I'm new and all I have is 70 pulls

[odd sky]

yes nothing much has changed
#r-i-i-c message

[copper oracle]

well u had 6 months of knowledge ahead of time to theorycraft strategies idk

[robust thistle]

Then you deal with it and accept the fact that you cant clear it

[slim tusk]

why do you need to spend a week
the op buff already out

[copper oracle]

i was already strategizing clears last month

[humble arrow]

Ikr... this is what i've been saying but no one answered

[robust thistle]

It just sounds like you dont want to put in the effort yet you want the cake too

[quick jolt]

u can get more pulls during the banner. the odds r in your favour. just pull

[lone valley]

Isnt vector like fucking, 3 weeks long🥹

[copper oracle]

6 month and 3 week

[humble arrow]

not everyone is this unemployed fib

[echo oasis]

Hoping that I can get at least two ops among Trag, Leiz, Hosh

[copper oracle]

AK is a math game if u know all the enemy and operator stats u can simulate the stage

[copper oracle]

u say this but i have 2 j*bs

[burnt cedar]

not everyone is unemployed in their hearts fib

[humble arrow]

dont say the word without trigger warning

[turbid ocean]

hush.

[random ether]

I don't want to attempt to make the cake right now I'd like to do it at my own pace but because its limited I cannot do it at my own pace and must resort to guides if i don't want to spend my whole free time on it. Guys TDLR its not a problem of difficulty it simply is a problem of timer aka limited content. Arknights is not my 24/7 job

[turbid ocean]

get back on topic

[fiery canopy]

its censored dw

[robust thistle]

Then you just accept it

[echo oasis]

3 weeks to clear an endgame is plenty of time coming from other gacha where we get 4 weeks but still clear endgame on 1st day

[lone valley]

Every event is time limited tho?

[robust thistle]

Its a live service game, if you want to clear in your own time, buy a game on steam

[humble arrow]

I'm confused... what game is he comparing arknights to? clearly he is comparing arknights to something in his mind, like he must be glazing another game in his head

[quick jolt]

made up game

[copper oracle]

u had 6 months idk if u dont have 1 week to spare out of 6 months idk maybe its not for u

[slim tusk]

stardew valley

[lone valley]

Sims 4

[robust thistle]

This is such a nothingburger agument

[echo oasis]

Candy Crush

[astral galleon]

Is miss Christine the welfare unit this event

[cursive maple]

elden ring

[robust thistle]

I skipped like 5 events when I started and just went "oh well"

[humble arrow]

Like I cant clear the content even though it is clearable with beginner account so I dont get the rewards oh bad game design

[astral galleon]

I will now have a real cat on my team

[copper oracle]

obviously u need to invest time to get good in a game 🤯

[lone valley]

Shes garbage
Just a note

[copper oracle]

not clearable with beginer account

[burnt cedar]

she's meta in our hearts

(unfortunately the subclass is so volatile)

[humble arrow]

not fully beginner but like from exu cov 100%

[astral galleon]

My account is kinda cracked so i dont mind building her even if shes garbo

[random ether]

Bruh i love my opinion being degraded or simplified

[copper oracle]

is 6 months not enough time?

[fiery lynx]

It's just a game. Try to enjoy it without stressing out too much about it.
You wont miss anything if you didn't clear this event anyway.

[humble arrow]

thats not the point fib

[robust thistle]

Yes we know what your opinion is, we just think its stupid to complain about time limited content in a live service game

[radiant mantle]

Thing is, limited time events are normal in gachas

[copper oracle]

whats the point then

[lone valley]

Cuz ita kinda weird
Every event is time limited, not just vectir
And vector is 3 weeks as opposes to usual 2 weeks, thats even longer

[radiant mantle]

Like you're arguing for nothing

[humble arrow]

he doesnt want to spend even 1 week of this 6 months thinking thats his point

[echo oasis]

Limited time events are normal in all live service games

[turbid ocean]

We're moving on frm this discussion

[signal dragon]

just go to #1211614253354852362 and ask for permanent vector break and move on

[turbid ocean]

Theres no point in discussing this here

Not the place

[random ether]

I just had an opinion i tried to explain because people asked and you guys got upset

[copper oracle]

most events arent time limited...
only the rewards are time limited the stages dont go gonezo

[ivory terrace]

what r u expecting
welcome to society in 2025. now STFU

[turbid ocean]

Regardless of what happened, drop the arguing

We can't change anything

You can talk about it freely in #arknights

[lone valley]

You play stages for rewards

[random ether]

That valid i just didn't appreciate the negativity on it

[turbid ocean]

Yes I don't either

[copper oracle]

sorry i play for fun cos games are supposed to be fun

[humble arrow]

lowkey ragebaited help chat

[keen scarab]

@random ether just move to #arknights bro

[odd sky]

🍿

[random ether]

I heard the mod no need to repeat

[quick jolt]

can we just ragebait light instead

[lone valley]

Fun in 2026 🥹

[turbid ocean]

You don't need to repeat

Shut up if you don't have a question/answer

[random ether]

Thank you guys for the information on Arkrecs and low end guides

[ivory terrace]

f bombs required it seems

[burnt cedar]

for every ragebait against him 1 chatter must be sacrificed

[humble arrow]

honestly why is there even a discussion after low end guides being a thing

[turbid ocean]

Don't bait

[limpid tapir]

Will this reset after maint?

[burnt cedar]

no

[lone valley]

why would it lol

[severe crypt]

I mean you’re just gonna get a steward anyway so

[quick jolt]

iirc tags only reset every 6months and if you already used the recruitment permit nothing happens

[ivory terrace]

no
even if it did due to recruitment update (every limited banner event), it is still based off old rates since it alrdy decided

[limpid tapir]

Thats true, iirc sometimes tag will refresh but I forgot how

[lone valley]

Only if new ops ar ebeing added to the pool

[quick jolt]

thought was only during celebration but maybe not

[ivory terrace]

they force refresh the ones u didn't use
and on every limited banner event. so 4 updates to recruitment pool annually

[maiden plover]

after trag is haruka and hoshi the only must char after him

[lone valley]

Harula

[ivory terrace]

debatably only trag is

[quick jolt]

leizi is the strongest upcoming character imo and shes before them

[turbid ocean]

spicy take

[quick jolt]

is it really

[turbid ocean]

im M9ing her

[ivory terrace]

unless doro

[quick jolt]

im excluding trag obv

[fiery canopy]

30k dps truth nuke

[maiden plover]

okay

[turbid ocean]

Leizi2 is incredibly good in a vaccum yeah i agree

[ancient lotus]

Hoshi alter feels pretty crazy too

Anyway just know that a bunch of good operators incoming

[turbid ocean]

the new Hoshi mod is bonkers too true

[quick jolt]

oh i havent seen hoshi post-mod tbf

[lone valley]

[turbid ocean]

226K damage sound like alot to you?

[ancient lotus]

This operator is so unreal the more i use her post mod

[quick jolt]

the fuck what was it before

[fiery canopy]

197k smth

[ivory terrace]

s2 or s3?

[turbid ocean]

178K

[ancient lotus]

179k

[copper oracle]

hoshi mod saved her

[quick jolt]

interesting thats.. good

[copper oracle]

sleeper op without mod 🚬

[burnt cedar]

hoshi2 mod is very funy

[quick jolt]

bigger dmg increase than i expected and im late ig

[frozen brook]

When did Arts Defenders get mods?

[ancient lotus]

No art pen but tbh who cares at this point

[ivory terrace]

recently in CN
SA2 event

[copper oracle]

idk

[ancient lotus]

Thats a lot of freakin total damge

[quick jolt]

its not the highest in the game is it? forgot if saki was higher

[humble arrow]

whats the mod do

[ancient lotus]

Uhh saki s3 by itself isnt higher than 227k but with fever she is iirc

[quick jolt]

makes sense yeah

[burnt cedar]

more stats to the stats character

[copper oracle]

dmg

[copper oracle]

thorns s3 higher total dmg 😇

[ancient lotus]

The mod gives a crack load of base ATK, and an 10% atk as art for every attack

[ivory terrace]

110% atk during skill?

[burnt cedar]

the conditionals for her tenacity are also eased up to 50% hp and at max stacks she deals 15% extra damage

not very hard considering her kit

[ancient lotus]

80 ATK out of nowhere
Her max lv max trust barely breaks 700

Either case its just a crap load of stats

[burnt cedar]

arts defender module my beloved

[formal shadow]

czerny mod gives 0 attack. it's over

[burnt cedar]

I'll take 10%

[frosty coral]

Hello, what do you reckon I focus on first

[lone valley]

tuya, maybe mul, amd quibai after too

[shadow bay]

quibai ig

can also consider tuya

listen listen....

entel... agree??? agree

[frosty coral]

Ohhh so you mean fully upgrade swire alter? I get I get

[burnt cedar]

real

may I recommend vigil

[humble arrow]

how long does thorns s3 last? I remember using unlimited skills and they got down 1/3 duration in annihilation

[burnt cedar]

30s the first time

[copper oracle]

after pinch out operation perma skill is now 50hrs

[humble arrow]

i think mul is a bad pick here he has ines already

[copper oracle]

before that it was like 1hr or smthing not exactly sure

[frosty coral]

The current rotation as of now(6 star wise)

[copper oracle]

high risk pinch out was stalling for hours bc the gundam has 1m+ hp with 7k def and 100 res

[lone valley]

i think i didnt ask what u think doesnt matter much, shes fine to raise if he wants

[humble arrow]

ines gaps too much

[oak shale]

Sorry if this is pedantic or has been asked, but how many hours until tragodias banner? I'm just excited for my boy to come home

[shadow bay]

oh yeh there was a clr thonrs s3 run out and gundam still alive

[lone valley]

Look in pins

[oak shale]

Oh wow that's convenient

[shadow bay]

i know.... you're welcome yeh 🥹

[frosty coral]

The lapptop skin is releasing beside it right?

[oak shale]

LAPPLAND GETS A SKIN TOO???

[indigo spoke]

is the banner delay 4h from maintenance ?

[frosty coral]

Or was I looking at a leak(yes decadenza)

[oak shale]

Do you know if it's live 2d?

[humble arrow]

i dont think she does...

[frosty coral]

Ah a spoiler…

[humble arrow]

not in 6 months...

[oak shale]

Oh it looks like it's coming out in cn not global

[nimble kite]

...it's animated.

[oak shale]

... Ty

[frosty coral]

My bad…

[nimble kite]

Animated means 100% Live2D.
Also she has new voicepack, so it will cost for you 24 .

[oak shale]

Oh so an op who is already animated will always have animated skins?

Pog

While we're on the topic, any clue when logos skin will rerun?

[fathom cape]

in that skin when u lose she asks zarro to kill you or something😭

[fiery canopy]

peak

[haughty holly]

I don't think anyone knows, just pray it comes back soon

[oak shale]

Ah ok. Wasn't sure if it was every 6 months like limited ops

[haughty holly]

@oak shale wait actually u probs want to use this
https://hermitzplanner.github.io/skins/

[oak shale]

Oh wow that's cool ty

[shadow hawk]

I got Lumen, should I replace Silence with him?

[humble arrow]

nuh

[hearty wyvern]

Which blaze alt skill should I m3?

[oak shale]

Nope not seeing it anytime soon rip

[indigo spoke]

is the next banner delay 4h from maintenence?

[bitter anvil]

How's the difficulty of TN-5 compared to Vector Breakthrough? Easier or harder

[bitter anvil]

I think maint is 4h after reset and lasts 10 mins

[slim tusk]

way easier

[copper oracle]

wtf is tn5

[fiery lynx]

TN boss got their stat nerfed

[bitter anvil]

Trials of Navigator # 5

[crisp dawn]

pins

[copper oracle]

easier than buffless vector
harder than w/ buffs vector

[nimble kite]

Trials of Navigator #5
Aka IS2 and IS3 boss rush.

[ocean mulch]

What does click does?

[odd sky]

does arts dmg for newbies and early vermeil combo exp

[ocean mulch]

I see

[nimble kite]

Good Arts source low-star wise, Stun control.

[crisp loom]

That ms cristine is welfare unit right?
Worth to build?

[ancient lotus]

no

She’s a fine base combo with tragodia but its not worth investing

[cursive maple]

can invul enemies be marked (does the timer reset once they enter phase transition)?

[nimble kite]

No, cannot.
And it means yes too.

[cursive maple]

wow so i have to wait 8 seconds before bursting him

[nimble kite]

Yes. Whoever you want to kill.

[cursive maple]

u

[indigo spoke]

maintenence end mean banner start?

[restive crown]

How bad is it if I used the E2 ticket thingy on Amiya? Is it worth creating a new account? I got told it was an awful decision but I don't know anything as a new player

[robust thistle]

depends on how new you are

[restive crown]

5 days new, 0-10 stage in the story new

[turbid ocean]

You will be fine though not the best choice

Borrowing ops can still carry you

See pins for the rest of your selectors

[pearl forge]

I don't even use the unit I used my ticket on after a month

[restive crown]

Alright, I thought borrowing ops prevented auto-deploy, but I guess no one farms early game stages so it might not be that big of a deal

[pale scaffold]

since im getting e2 tequila for shamare team, how's his s2 masteries gain

[restive crown]

Oh I was losing so I figured I'd use it on my only 5 star

[turbid ocean]

Theres many stages you don't do ever again, the farming ones you can still do with some craftsment ship

Well if you used it on Tequila which was ideal, he would stay with you in base as a good production

And yes it is true the 5* life span on your team won't be particularly huge, but it can carry alot of early game
and can carry early game farming...

0-10 isn't too far in, could see an angle for you to reroll in like 8 hours if you are open to it

[pearl forge]

If you don't get Tragodia, you can think of rerolling xd. Otherwise you will have your carry

[pale scaffold]

they're like substitute in early until you get better high rarity ops, wouldn't hurt much in long run eventually

[restive crown]

What do you mean by in like 8 hours? That's how long it takes to "reroll" an account?

[turbid ocean]

No

In 8 hours will be one of the strongest operators in the game

Rerolling takes about 6 minutes or so~

[pale scaffold]

a strong operator dropping after 8 hours, you should reroll on that banner

[sonic crypt]

how many pulls though

[scarlet finch]

damn 2 am

[restive crown]

I'm assuming new accounts don't have enough pulls to even attempt a banner no?

[pearl forge]

And for 0-10 you don't need a e2 operator. You should think about a different strategy xd

[turbid ocean]

rerolling you get 6 pulls, you can get a Tragodia within like 17 rerolls or so average

you get 6 pulls, you can still make it work

just if you are open to it, not that you have to

would allow you to choose something better of that E2 voucher too

[pale scaffold]

if you keep rerolling you technically has infinite chance to get him just time consuming

[restive crown]

Right

[sonic crypt]

about 1 hour if unlucky ig

[restive crown]

Maybe I should play cookie clicker like a caveman, there's so much stuff to memorize it's like playing path of exile for mobile games lmao

[knotty wave]

rerolling is just optional, you can just simply refuse to do it

[robust thistle]

when the anime waifu tower defense has actual gameplay

[lone valley]

[fathom cape]

chat when is the orienteering banner that has monst3r logos and ascalon coming to globak

[robust thistle]

they can change whats in that banner

[lone valley]

We dont knoe cuz it can change

[fathom cape]

hool chetto ft banner incoming

[sonic crypt]

[pine plover]

we never follow same orieteering, joint ops and standard as CN pretty much

[fiery canopy]

u mean the ebenholz hool and stainless banner

[sonic crypt]

stainless slander

[bitter anvil]

where can I find low pot ccb4 max risk clears? Arkrec only has high pot records

[fiery canopy]

doesn't max risk need high pot tho

[bitter anvil]

really? Max risk high pot is 8 ops, we can have 13, I figured low op might be possible with full squad

[sonic crypt]

wait HoshiAlt S2 healing can't combo with Stainless right?

[dreamy carbon]

somewhere after the collab

[vale finch]

Tragodia is a must pull right? After this we can skip till summer banner?

[dreamy carbon]

ye, i guess leizi alter is good as well but since there's hoshi alter and the collab after her, you gotta choose

[sonic crypt]

sure, if you don't need Leizi and Ulpi

[vale finch]

Yup I got ulpipi from the selector, as for leizi, I think mlynar replace her?

[lone valley]

He doesnt

[dreamy carbon]

she is a sidegrade

[tardy crescent]

Help how to get 2 trading post in base? How to edit so i can have like 2 trading post adn 2 power

[fiery canopy]

downgrade

[jovial urchin]

Chat, what happens to Tragodia when his cat interacts with spike chests?

[odd sky]

downgrade then demolish, then build trading post

[fiery canopy]

he explodes

[dreamy carbon]

he screams like tom in tom and jerry

[jovial urchin]

[tardy crescent]

Ahhh okok, thank you

[lone valley]

Wasnt it sourceless

[jovial urchin]

Idk, does the cat stay on the field for a bit after retreating Tragodia?

[graceful cloud]

chat who should i focus on? silverash or blaze?

[lone valley]

Sash

[robust thistle]

blaze is 'functional' on E1

silverash is defective before E2

[graceful cloud]

alr sash it is

[silver smelt]

is logos s2 better than s3 for boss killing

[nimble kite]

Kinda.

[sleek finch]

no
s3 has higher total dmg

[lone valley]

No

[jovial urchin]

Depends on how tanky the boss is imo. S2 has less total damage but has a much faster cycle and buff potential due to being an attack scale skill. Oh and there's also S3 being multi target

[sleek finch]

bigger range matter when the boss can move out of s2 range
and higher total dmg matter against tankier boss

[lone valley]

I never once used s2 vs a boss, always s3
And i have him maxed🥹 its a cringe skill

[silver smelt]

i see

[jovial urchin]

Using S2 on SteamKnight was a mood

[silver smelt]

do i bother s1m3 on him? or no if im not afking stuff

[sleek finch]

the main excuse for s2 is that it scale better with atk buff

but like, s2 doesnt scale with aspd, while s3 can, and aspd buff are more common than atk buff

[odd sky]

just s3

[jovial urchin]

I thought ASPD is the less common one? Attack buff ops are literally everywhere, it's just that in IS, ASPD is the most impactful one

[sleek finch]

and tell me atk buff ops

that people actually use

[silver smelt]

does the +70 res become relevant against certain bosses? maybe like idk sui-xiang?

[sleek finch]

in IS, atk up relics fully work with s3 because of multiplicative stack
atk up like king relics are the one that stack additively, but then theres also aspd up for s3 anyway

[jovial urchin]

So this is just the ones that I can come up with right now

For IS, you pick them up along the way, there's really no way you can avoid them unless you try to

For operators, there are a bunch of them in the supporter class (and non supporters), it's just that they are not used enough.

ASPD for now I can only think of Mon3tr and Aak (for some ops)

[proven kelp]

I mean who ever draft actual buffers in IS ( not accounting survivability )

[coarse notch]

really late but the timer starts when they come out of invul and keeps going even if they go invul again

[jovial urchin]

Back in IS4, I remember myself using Warfarin and Ray to burst one of the kings in Ending 4 down ig that was one of the uses

[coarse notch]

lemuen took their job 🥀

[fiery canopy]

wait can u lure invincible enemies

[robust thistle]

theyre not targetable

[nimble kite]

Only if you reveal them.

[ocean mulch]

After mudrock I'm just going to farm for 2 months.

[jovial urchin]

Invincible is not the same as invisible but ig that is also applicable

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[ocean mulch]

Holy internet connection that was 2 hours ago

[sonic crypt]

time travel

[opaque ridge]

does anyone still use blemi

[pseudo flume]

The KaziKnights, Horseknights and Defenderknights people do

Also Sleepknights

[fiery canopy]

holy niche knights

[cursive maple]

so i can not worry about exu bursting them down soon enough, wtf @nimble kite misinfo

[coarse notch]

well im not sure of the specific interaction you're looking for but lemuen is able to mark cresson in sentinel so if its similar to that then you're good

[nimble kite]

Wait, it actually marks through Invulnerable state?

[cursive maple]

once they are in range yeah

[lone valley]

It starts the marking proccess once they are targetable, and persists even if they become untargetable

[nimble kite]

Wait, that's actually neat for me.

[umbral helm]

Hello, just wanted to ask, who do i get?

I have several limiteds (notable ones I dont have are yato, virtuosa, mumu, and ela, if this helps)

[cursive maple]

ray (im debating nymph but you lack damage)

[coarse notch]

yep
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BKnAzBEAE/
at 2:20, you can see she marks cresson after he turns invincible

[umbral helm]

i have the same conflict honestly

i also don't know if i should get nymph or not so asking here was my last resort haha

[coarse notch]

nah go ray

nymph is gonna lose most of her use cases to tragodia

[umbral helm]

alright thank you o7

[nimble kite]

da fuq really

Cannot be damaged nor shifted, any Status effect won't apply, but Wanted mark does?
WTF is this spaghetti code, really...

[cursive maple]

sanktas are peak!

[haughty holly]

Lemuen powercreep

[burnt tree]

how much hp does document need to break the shield in vecsp-15?

[copper oracle]

700 phys or art dmg in 1 hit

[burnt tree]

and she have 0 res right?

[copper oracle]

0 res 0 def
80% dmg reduction

[haughty holly]

She's squishy as shit when u get rid of the shield

[cursive maple]

3.5k accounting everything

[copper oracle]

spoonfeeder wtf

[burnt tree]

ohhh 3.5k, yeah i'm cooked

[haughty holly]

Or just do true damage to her it bypasses her shield

[burnt tree]

my true damage source is amiya so 😭

[haughty holly]

Ehhh do u have exu2?

U could kill with her but it takes like 2-3 s2 bar

[burnt tree]

no 💀 i think i'm actually locked out vecsp-15

[haughty holly]

show roster

[forest quest]

is Tragodia a skip? 50/50 chance feels like a huge scam

[fiery canopy]

[turbid ocean]

50/50s as good as it gets...

[haughty holly]

[turbid ocean]

take the VEC help to #strategy

[formal shadow]

it's all or nothin'

[haughty holly]

hi light

[random kestrel]

if doubt then dont pull trag
its gacha anyway so yeah rng dictate

[forest quest]

50/50 means if I fail the one time, it could cost 100+ pulls to get the rate up unit. It’s scary

[echo oasis]

Is there no guarantee in this game

[haughty holly]

150 for guarantee if I'm not mistaken

[sonic crypt]

not like you hit with 70/30

[formal shadow]

skillfully save up 250
what happened to nest eggs

[turbid ocean]

Theres no "reasonable" absolute gurantees in this game
But at the same time, the average pulls is pretty reasonable

Its a gamble

[nimble kite]

You wanna skip best control within 6 months?

[turbid ocean]

Trags probably the single best upcoming unit
Do what you will

[fiery canopy]

the humble 120 collab

[turbid ocean]

I guess that exists

[forest quest]

yeah I do prefer collab guarantees

[sonic crypt]

is there even a guarantee gacha game on first 6 star

[turbid ocean]

thats off topic

[haughty holly]

Collab guarantee is what
120?

[turbid ocean]

yes and you get 20 free on banner

[haughty holly]

knowing this why skip trag still

[indigo spoke]

is there any IS module else than rosmontis?

[sonic crypt]

archetto mizuki

[turbid ocean]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/modules#Specialized

[cursive maple]

a bunch

[haughty holly]

Kal stit is one but yeah link above

[turbid ocean]

Just see the wiki

[sonic crypt]

mizuki IS not that good in IS5 right? because of the elemental?

[coarse notch]

its extremely good

[sonic crypt]

oh

[turbid ocean]

Its because the most popular IS5 strategy is Lamp of Wishes
and from lamp ambushers have both hand + book
thats 2 precious nodes

[fiery canopy]

Is rosmi still good relicless

[coarse notch]

but you wont use him with lamp^

[nimble kite]

Collection.

[haughty holly]

I realized I type for
I meant skipping trag when the guarantee in Collab is 30 pulls less and u get 20 pulls free during the collab

[indigo spoke]

should i level mizuki?

[cursive maple]

pozy typewriter damage in unsourced?

[turbid ocean]

If you like playing IS yes

Technically its sourced to the typewriter but its invuln

[haughty holly]

Ah right, Is pozi good or

[turbid ocean]

No

Shes fine at best

[coarse notch]

i remember she was shilled way back for is3 but there are many better options everywhere now

[haughty holly]

oki
and let's say someone have a crippling gamba addiction and wants to pull the current standard banner
Best case scenario would be Cantabile right

[cursive maple]

yeah, i used her typewriter to destroy spiked chest and she was safe

[turbid ocean]

[signal dragon]

this crippling addiction can't wait a few hours?

[turbid ocean]

You will get cantabile anyways at some point naturally

[formal shadow]

i would steal their gambling device for a few hours

[haughty holly]

apparently users in arknights can't

[haughty holly]

neat

[echo merlin]

How long until tragodia banner?

[turbid ocean]

see pins

[cursive maple]

2 weeks

[regal phoenix]

Does enemy atk spd or animation have any difference when their target is farther or nearer?

[fiery canopy]

uproar has different animation for Near and far targets

[sonic crypt]

I think there is a blocked/melee animation, and projectile/ranged animation, and bullet travel animation (the particle leaving the enemy) which ≠ projectile/ranged animation

[robust thistle]

animation doesnt affect their interval unless the enemy has different attacks for different conditions

[formal shadow]

trag should be rolling in in the land of the rising sun right

[copper oracle]

some enemy have diff melee vs ranged atk

[shadow bay]

no need to be poetic but yeh jp have the patch already... evidences already in #salt-mines

[cursive maple]

no i thnk they meant if the enemy is far away the projectile takes longer to travel to the target and hence does it make any difference in theri atkinterval if they are near

[copper oracle]

no

[cursive maple]

i see

[robust thistle]

if it does, logos S3 would have more application

unless we have a loopshooter enemy

[copper oracle]

sorry logussy must remain king tier2 😢

[torn galleon]

Does tragodia event have enough shop LMD to E2 him?

[copper oracle]

no

[fiery canopy]

it's only 500k iir

Last time I checked e2 costs more than that

well 80k+ more

[fervent compass]

will arknight maintainancebe long or short

[formal shadow]

10mins for this one
several of em are 6h though

[fiery canopy]

short

[nimble kite]

Short. 10min.

[haughty holly]

From what
E0?

[indigo spoke]

why agent vanguard is good?

[haughty holly]

Attack air and ground and is ranged

[haughty holly]

Also they tend to have good kit (with a few exceptions)

[fiery canopy]

puzzle my goat

[torn galleon]

Yes. If I drain all LMD rn

[haughty holly]

If to e2 level 1 it's 592.7k
(Alrdy accounting the promotion cost)

[pine inlet]

what time is the update later?

[haughty holly]

Scroll up a bit and u will see

[lone valley]

Just check pins

[nimble kite]

Print DP + kill enemies at same time.

[haughty holly]

that too
surfer my goat

[sonic crypt]

or...

[torn galleon]

Ines

[haughty holly]

yes but I'm sure everyone knows Ines is broken 🙂‍↕️

[lone valley]

Myrtle = 🚮

[vital cloud]

Uh eunectes kinda hot. Is she mid or shit?

[odd sky]

hot shit

[robust thistle]

shit

[lone valley]

Awful shit

[fiery canopy]

truth nuke

[cursive maple]

good for base

[pseudo flume]

Shit unless Base

[cursive maple]

"there are no bad operators only bad doc"

[haughty holly]

copium overdose

[vital cloud]

Ok i just noticed the archetype, I see the problem

[pseudo flume]

That saying needs to completely die out tbh 🚬

[lone valley]

Its from s*pah
Ofc it does

[cursive maple]

wait no way? i didnt know that- you watch supah? 💢

[lone valley]

U didnt?? wow
Perish

[pseudo flume]

She only functions normally if she has her RA mod and is in RA

[odd sky]

can she still lure to holes?
i forgot

[regal phoenix]

Doss arkrec have every clear known to man, or can bilibili have crazier clear n not on arkrec?

[thorny edge]

IS clears arent on arkrec

[hexed adder]

The latter, arkrec only for lowest count

[fiery canopy]

alll the stuff is in bili pretty sure

[random kestrel]

time to learn mandarin

[cursive maple]

you can just learn some phrases

[vital cloud]

Nice that's a crunchy ahh def% ngl

[thorny edge]

playing arknights without chinese knowledge is a handicap

[haughty holly]

simply ask laq

[ocean mulch]

Imagine if someone still out there that believes Arknight is a Japanese game

[lone valley]

Hey laqy
Hope ure having a good day

[thorny edge]

its been terrible but thanks anyways <3

[lone valley]

[ocean mulch]

God may transfer the monsoon to your immediate area, So you should learn true suffering

[lone valley]

stop yapping bozo

[idle hound]

does tragodia wants mod3 or mod1 is enough

[odd sky]

mod1

[lone valley]

Hes mod3 bro

[idle hound]

thats 2 different answer

[proven kelp]

flip a coin to decide

[random kestrel]

what his mod do again? i forgor :icant:
but i believe modless still fine for gen content

[lone valley]

Femn bestie is a little slow

[odd sky]

[ocean mulch]

For a jest perhaps

[torn galleon]

Does tragodia's nervous impairment complement logos necrosis and help logos deal more true damage?

[odd sky]

no

[lone valley]

No?

[torn galleon]

Okay

[lone valley]

How could it

[vital cloud]

Can u even apply a different elemental gauge when the other is active

[torn galleon]

Idk I can't distinguish between elemental, necrosis, nervous, etc

[copper oracle]

mod 3

[proven kelp]

Wdym by active? like it already burst?
or still accumulating

[hexed adder]

The burst also different (and once at time that won)

[vital cloud]

Both burst and still accumulating

[lone valley]

Green, black, orangey-red

[blissful berry]

is trag not very good with his mod

[cursive maple]

reset period, no

[lone valley]

He is
But a good mod on a good op is always a good thing

[proven kelp]

You can accumuluate multiple elemental type on the same time
but once burst, all will reset and will follow the downtime of the specific type's cooldown

[nimble kite]

It is specifies "NECROSIS BURST".

So no, it won't work as you dreamt.

[blissful berry]

I see thanks

kinda sucks I cant use him with other debuffs

but i can see how its worth

[lone valley]

🤏

[pseudo flume]

No just get her for free on Anniversary

[lone valley]

What does this mean🥹

[nimble kite]

January.

[blissful berry]

I heard he cant work with virtuosa since u cant stack their debuffs

[vital cloud]

Prob bro want to do elemental dot gaming like in h*yo game

[blissful berry]

since hes nerv impairment and she's necrosis

[lone valley]

That case ye
But elem isnt "a debuff" exactly so..

[indigo spoke]

which anni?

[blissful berry]

is he good at e1 already or do I have to get his e2

[torn galleon]

Is it the same for logos too?

[lone valley]

And even if u could combine nervous and necri, it would be garbage cuz nervous prevents attacks and necro lowers atk

[pseudo flume]

Anniversary not Annihilation

The 6th Anniversary for EN

[blissful berry]

most likely I think im not too sure im a newer player

[lone valley]

Ofc. It is

[torn galleon]

Then does that mean he'll hinder logos from properly damaging in IS?

[indigo spoke]

thanks

[hexed adder]

The ultimate lure still there, assuming no resist. also stop coping synergy bs

[lone valley]

Ritualists proc elem dmg way faster than others
He'll proc nervous first, meaning logos cant proc necro
No necro = a lot lower dmg for logos

[echo oasis]

What are good teammates for Tragodia?

[torn galleon]

Wtf

[lone valley]

He, himself and him

[echo oasis]

When will Ines and unc be available in gold cert shop again?

[blissful berry]

probs ulp

[lone valley]

We dont know
Consult the magic 8 ball

[safe tundra]

🐘

[blissful berry]

kinda a shame I stopped playing when ines golden cert was in shop I should have claimed it

[lone valley]

Hard to say
Rn, like logos and ulpi but it can easily change

[warped depot]

Is tomimi.dev the only site that shows enemy pathing in real time?

[lone valley]

Ark.map

[tawdry grove]

I have 130 pulls right now what are my chances of getting both tragodia and ulpianus during the rerun?

[abstract mauve]

doesnt really show it in real time tho

[indigo spoke]

YES X10 FOR EACH

[hexed adder]

get ulpi from certs later

[haughty holly]

Hard pity is 150 for trag
Ulpi yellow cert

[lone valley]

these guys so needy

[tawdry grove]

YOU ARE RIGHT, I NEED ONLY 2

[haughty holly]

Most people get their 6* within 40-50 pulls iirc

[tawdry grove]

Isn't ulpi yellow cert in like 11 months?

[torn galleon]

https://map.ark-nights.com/

[blissful berry]

oh shit would it be worth to 150 for him?

[lone valley]

[blissful berry]

is there a list showing who's coming out as a yellow cert?

[hexed adder]

yea ulpi skippable regardless

[lone valley]

Hard pity is 249 u misinfoer

[haughty holly]

Imo yes cuz he's really good but that's happening only if ur extremely unlucky

[haughty holly]

why minus 1

[tawdry grove]

There is a document that predicts them and i remember ulpi being like November next year

[lone valley]

Cuz its impossible to hit 250 get good at the mechanics

[hexed adder]

U start at 2%

[blissful berry]

oh if possible do you know where I can find this?

[echo oasis]

Well then what good OPs are coming to gold cert shop in future?

[tawdry grove]

Idk i lost it myself lol

[lone valley]

Somewhere? Sure
Not here cuz its against the rules

[blissful berry]

oh nevermind that's rough then

[haughty holly]

I see, good to know

[echo oasis]

Guide me to that somewhere, brother

[turbid ocean]

[lone valley]

Logos and ulpi and very maybe ascalon and ray
Too hard to ansser since it changes easily and they can lose value by the time they appear

[signal dragon]

just check wiki
ops appear in gold cert store 2 years after their debut banner

[tawdry grove]

Alright so my plan right now is to do 10 pulls on tragodia and get him immediately because I'm just this good at the game, then i overspend on ulpianus and somehow don't get him

[turbid ocean]

We know operator release dates and we know that they come to shop roughly 2 years later

[echo oasis]

Should I get any of those 4? I'm new and only have exu2.

[turbid ocean]

when they rerun in gold cert / exact dates are very dependant on Yostar

[lone valley]

Both if them have 1+ year till they appear
Wait bro

[noble meteor]

does anyone have that picture of potential upcoming shop operator with month guesstimates

[lone valley]

[shadow bay]

speculation not allowed here

[haughty holly]

time to read the channel topic

[noble meteor]

i only asked cuz i saw it posted here last time 😭

mb

[lone valley]

Whoever did that was breaking rules
Just a fyi

[shadow bay]

he probably in brazil rn enjoying vacation

[tawdry grove]

Let's say, hypothetically, characters are released in cert store 2 years after their release, hypothetically, that message you can find character you like and add 2 years to their release date

[chilly steeple]

Hello.. So.. I somewhat follow the infographic.. Don't know how to progress after that, having a hard time clearing. Who to upgrade next?

[echo oasis]

1 year!?

[cursive maple]

no 6 star?

[formal shadow]

yeah they released last yea

[lone valley]

[chilly steeple]

Blaze

[echo oasis]

No one good in the upcoming 6 months?

[tawdry grove]

Legendary troll

[void island]

Is tragodia only staller or dps to some extent?

[formal shadow]

wym there is balskeze

[fiery canopy]

my bad

[lone valley]

As in gold cert debut? No

[blissful berry]

banner wise theres alot of insane banners coming up soon

[lone valley]

Ofc it was you

[coarse portal]

monster s2 together with tragodia s1 viable?

[echo oasis]

My luck is bad

[shadow bay]

start building a team first....

follow the one in pins or /teambuilding in #bot-spam

[haughty holly]

No way someone who follows the infographic

[blissful berry]

theres some banners where all3 are good

[fiery canopy]

im joking !

[lone valley]

His dmg isnt that great
Mainly staller and helps other ops survive more

[cursive maple]

where is blaze?

[shadow bay]

and after that the people here will judge is good following the template

coz after that u will invest ur resources on whatever team u will build

[sweet sand]

is it worth it to buy raindrop wishes pack?

[formal shadow]

you can click into the photos you know

[haughty holly]

@chilly steeple anyways upgrade kroos and BP I guess for ur marksman

[shadow bay]

who tf use discord in light mode???

[noble meteor]

lightmode

[lone valley]

Do not upgrade blue poison
Garbage op

[inland vale]

mudrock or pulls?

*6 defender atm is saria

[cursive maple]

i thought it was one singular image

[queen hearth]

Should I get lemuens mod?

[noble meteor]

neither

[formal shadow]

pulla

[shadow bay]

pulls easy

next

[hexed adder]

Light mode nerf moment

[haughty holly]

Isn't bp fine for newbies

[lone valley]

Yes, mod2 must

[queen hearth]

okay thankss

[haughty holly]

As long as not any higher than e1

[lone valley]

What do u need bo when kroos, krooster

[fiery canopy]

but kukkikaze made a video about her !

[lone valley]

[shadow bay]

she would work

but then again krooster accesible and seen more usage... so investment wise krooster would be better

and as for second marksman, u can sure invest bp if u want... or u know... invest in kroos

[haughty holly]

@chilly steeple hold on DO NOT upgrade Blue poison, refer to the newbie selector in pins and get kroos the keen glint from side story

[signal dragon]

I watched it, it was pretty bad 💀
just pure cope

[haughty holly]

kukki only good for spending advice

[shadow bay]

#arknights this way sir

[lone valley]

For entertainment at most
He still drafts mountain in IS

[fiery canopy]

mandragora victim

[haughty holly]

Go to #strategy and post roster

[shadow bay]

just sieve info haiyaa....

[vital cloud]

Haiya

[turbid ocean]

[lone valley]

Hi light can u give me dps for gracey s2 under trag nervous

[turbid ocean]

🚬 im going to bed

[lone valley]

[haughty holly]

the offtopic is gonna happen right when u hit the bed

[turbid ocean]

I mean the DPS just slightly changes about like 4%~
the damage just turns fully elemental

@lone valley

[signal dragon]

didn't femn do the calcs?

[inland vale]

bread & butter skill?

[formal shadow]

s2

[chrome tiger]

s2 and s3

[lone valley]

So basicaly same but +atk from talent and it being true dmg huh?

[cursive maple]

im ngl he is an m9 candidate

[lone valley]

No he is not, nas

[haughty holly]

M6 candidate

[chrome tiger]

idfk what you’d use s1 for but ok nas shit your takes

[fiery canopy]

even leizi2 is questionable cus s3 is a bit ass

[chilly steeple]

can't clear 😭

[pure marsh]

yo just coming back from a long ass hiatus, should I be pulling on this bait banner? I don't have anyone on here and I think I've saved enough for tragodia anw

[formal shadow]

sir no sir

[turbid ocean]

Nvm I changed the pin

Don't do it

[chrome tiger]

zzz

[lone valley]

U called it bait and still considered pulling

[haughty holly]

Bro got baited into a bait

[fiery canopy]

gets 5 thorns alter

[pure marsh]

I'm a fish

[formal shadow]

should i be paying 5000$ to this nigerian prince

[lone valley]

Dont forget to drown in the river

[turbid ocean]

shush

[shadow bay]

🎣

[haughty holly]

Anyways u should see pins if u want to know banner is good or not
Chances are Light pinned something there alrdy

[chrome tiger]

🍣

[pseudo flume]

What's SA2 best skill

[signal dragon]

s2

[arctic hawk]

And he thought surely no one will ask about orienteering in the last 3 hours of the banner :clueless:

[pseudo gust]

S2

[turbid ocean]

General play: S2 > S1 > S3

[robust thistle]

borrow ascalon

[pseudo flume]

S1 really?

[arctic hawk]

Annihilation: S1 >>>

[turbid ocean]

S1 is close to Saileach DP gen

Its just because S3 is so scuffed

[signal dragon]

S3 can only be used once, it's applications are minimal outside of CC

(the cost swap can only be used once)

[pseudo flume]

Looks like an M9 candidate tbh

[turbid ocean]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats a stretch

[pseudo gust]

S3 is niche. But not a bad niche.

[signal dragon]

just do s2m3
s3m3 for future cc maybe

[pure marsh]

haven't touched this game in like a year forgive my meta ignorance

[pseudo flume]

Did he overthrow Ines yet

[delicate magnet]

when is tragodia

[signal dragon]

Ines still reigns
I'd use sa alongside Ines though

[pseudo flume]

Later

[formal shadow]

<6hrs

[delicate magnet]

ohh nice

[pseudo flume]

Higher or lower than Vulpis?

[abstract mauve]

significantly higher than vulpis imo

[signal dragon]

Ines > sa2 > vulpis imo

[pseudo flume]

[abstract mauve]

i still think people glaze ines a little too much

[signal dragon]

she's just so comfy to use
sa reducing cost and the freeze is nice though

[pseudo gust]

How does SA alter banner compare to the hosi alter banner?
Especially for new players

[haughty holly]

Salter over hoshi alter cuz there's pramalter there

[abstract mauve]

pramanix solo carry for the rest of your days playing the game

[pseudo gust]

Is she really that good?

[robust thistle]

yes (for afk)

[fiery canopy]

wait is she more prio than sash2 or smth

[haughty holly]

Freezing blue box so enemy can't enter is quite good

[pallid cloak]

Its still like 6 months away tho

Shes general content metchant

[robust thistle]

shes basically general content jail

[signal dragon]

that's all most people play anyway

[median fable]

daily reminder Sash2 is the definition of "potential man"

[fiery canopy]

holy

[pseudo flume]

inb4 we speed up like what happened in TW

[abstract mauve]

sash2 is good. calling him "potential man" is crazy icl

[median fable]

not that good

[signal dragon]

I was skeptical about his S2 until I tried it, then it grew on me

[robust thistle]

sounds like a benign tumor or something

[abstract mauve]

i dont know why people glaze the fuck out of ines but when a vanguard comes out with a similarly well rounded kit he's "potential man"

[pseudo gust]

Damn. I don't think I can afford trag>hosi>sa alter>yato alter>whatever coming in cn new year.

[robust thistle]

well SA inst really 'well rounded'

[shadow bay]

waifu

[signal dragon]

sa2 isn't gonna carry ofc
but his utility is nice

[robust thistle]

he needs another operator to 'work'

[formal shadow]

does sa2 is woman though? no? check mate

[pseudo flume]

💳🤫

[haughty holly]

Isn't Ines utility more lol

[shadow bay]

would u priority salter though to other dps units in future???

[median fable]

she had actual usage in hard content and she has like tons of utility
Sash2 s2 in general content is more like a funny thing to do with Ulpi and he still need to prove himself in like CC

[abstract mauve]

you have the whole squad. use the whole squad. he buffs the whole squad. for the rest of the stage 🥹

[chrome tiger]

salter is somewhat good but we havent got any notable applications for him yet

[pseudo flume]

+1 in Value due to being Limited

[pseudo gust]

As a new player, which one do you think I can skip?

[haughty holly]

Yeah bro I'm helidropping ulpi for sash2 🗣️

[abstract mauve]

literally no tho

[robust thistle]

he kinda has the uh 'texas problem'

[fiery canopy]

does sash2 and sa mod stack for redeployment time ? cat is cheaper than sa2 orb

[pseudo flume]

Uhhh Hoshi2? But like that depends on your luck

[robust thistle]

he wants to use his S2 often but using it with no enemy feels like a waste of skill

[shadow bay]

oh w8 he is limited one yeh...

[pseudo flume]

Ya

[robust thistle]

the -11 DP is great but kinda depends on DP cost

[haughty holly]

Idk man is this sash2 vs Ines gonna be a new debate or what

Just bring both

[pseudo flume]

We are getting more men as Limiteds nowadays

[pseudo gust]

🙁 but I like her the most. She is so beautiful 😍

[chrome tiger]

hoshi 2 is good so just pull her idk

[haughty holly]

ok Sam this is a meta orientated channel not a waifu channel

[pseudo gust]

I know lol

[chrome tiger]

skip mantra and ur golden

[pseudo flume]

It can be both if Waifu is Meta

[cursive maple]

if we are speaking about that doesnt any flag also reduce the dp of the folloing deployed op by the amount of dp they generate? ive been thinking bout this

[fiery canopy]

holy leizi2 skippers

[abstract mauve]

i wont debate it much cuz i think it's stupid on principle. i havent seen convincing arguments against sash2 other than the fact there literally hasnt been a CC since he dropped so we dont know exactly how insane he is there yet

[pseudo flume]

But in all seriousness the choice is tough

[signal dragon]

if there's no double or triple dp cost, then rip cc usage

[robust thistle]

the difference is SA reduces the DP of one specific operator

[pseudo flume]

Its been like a year of good ops as a line up

[median fable]

his whole s3 seems hard to be actually used since you are almost forced to bring another trash slot for the swap dp

[haughty holly]

I'm not debating either cuz I see what sash2 is good for
And why compare if u can bring both amirite

[median fable]

unless there is like no other option unless swapping dp kinda hard to think it will have usage imo

[pseudo flume]

What if that extra slot for more firepower

[median fable]

and s2 usage in cc seems even less feasible

[haughty holly]

I always tend to have two flex spot so..

[pseudo flume]

[median fable]

and in general content it's kinda whatever

[haughty holly]

One is silverash for the 10% redeployment time but since sash2 also have that so

[robust thistle]

wuh

[pseudo flume]

Raditz

[haughty holly]

Lmao raditz

[fiery canopy]

blue role debuff holy

[signal dragon]

sa2 s2 is pure general content
S1 is just afk
S3 niche af

we're gonna be here all day arguing about this smh

[median fable]

more like til MH collab drop and we'll all agree it's lower priority than a Yato2 pot

[pseudo flume]

I mean that's the case of any Vanguard Debate in this chat

[haughty holly]

What's sash2 s3 again
Is it the one he sends slashes to nearby operators and they pass it along

[cursive maple]

ines still the goat, debate ends.

[pseudo flume]

Its the short slashes

[formal shadow]

-# everyone should use kestrel instead

[pseudo flume]

Thats S1

[signal dragon]

ok sa2 is good
the problem is his S2 is for general content and you can clear general content without a vanguard usually

[haughty holly]

Oh

[shadow bay]

u mean the bish that need e2 to have relevancy in her intended usage(oh and its not even useful faaak)

[chrome tiger]

we still have 6 more months to see whether salter is going to have more usecases than his guard ver or not

[median fable]

he surely will have more usage than guard SA in CC lol

[pseudo flume]

Inb4 he gets shoved lower in priority due to Monhun

[median fable]

only usage SA has is like in is5 gvg

[chrome tiger]

haha surely

[pseudo flume]

Tbh its better to just bring a frd

[fiery canopy]

surely

[twilit perch]

would it be s bad ides if i just gabmlr for my first 6 star in the tragodlia banner to be him snd if i lost, i just save for lster banner? Because i only plan to get him bc hes stromg

[haughty holly]

Wtf is silverash even being used for nowadays besides a second invis reveal

[indigo spoke]

should i get proviso in 5* selector?

[signal dragon]

sure

[indigo spoke]

i wonder is there any other useful 5*

[haughty holly]

Surfer

[fiery canopy]

sham

[haughty holly]

Ptilopsis/Silence

[indigo spoke]

i have both

[lone valley]

Isnt in the selector

[indigo spoke]

i already have canta

[pseudo flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1422576867780853780/all_5_stars_worth_it_avemujica.gif

[chilly steeple]

Soo.. I got Kroos the Keen Glint... what kind of investment we do?

[turbid ocean]

Did you see the infographic bottom

Newbie selector one

Believe it or not, all the information is relavent!

[chilly steeple]

yes so.. just level them up to E1-40..?

It also said a solid starter roster.. what even is that?

[coarse portal]

wrong server

[chilly steeple]

also how do you E1-lvl40 when the requirement is lvl 50..? my brain hurts...

[formal shadow]

you're not going to be hang drawn and quartered if your ops aren't the correct level

[slim tusk]

level reset to 1 after promotion

[formal shadow]

oh wait yeah

facepalm me

[bitter anvil]

fang alter? why is she worth

[pseudo flume]

Umm she's bad

[bitter anvil]

is that gif satire then 😭

[formal shadow]

she gets eliminated no?

[bitter anvil]

oh yean she does nvm I am blind, what about the defender on right of tinman

I don't even know her name to search her kit

[formal shadow]

underflow? she got 15s slow and invis reveal but she's a generous pick I think

[pseudo flume]

IS5 reasons iirc

[turbid ocean]

IS5? Tf

She’s just decent in general for a 5*

[pseudo flume]

Oh, the ghost of #help has misled me

[bitter anvil]

wow underflow has 40% tp skill too

[pseudo flume]

If Ulpianus is present

[bitter anvil]

It counts if he is not training anyone right

[chrome tiger]

underflow good im glad i invested into underflow stock

[pseudo flume]

Tbh I have no idea

[livid lark]

the ave mujica banner is 100 pulls for a guaranteed saki right?

[chrome tiger]

Yeah he just need to sit there

[pseudo flume]

120 but we get 20 pulls for free so 100

[full ocean]

how much time till the maintenance?

[bitter anvil]

where do you find urself using her if you don't mind me asking

[chrome tiger]

i dont use 5 stars but i’ll shill her anyway

[tidal pumice]

Save or use on somebody?

[chrome tiger]

Exu s2

[tidal pumice]

Thanks

[abstract mauve]

she's good in is5 but also she's kinda just good in general for a 5*

[chrome tiger]

coz m3 is expensive on her

[pseudo flume]

Tragodia

Save it for Tragodia

[chrome tiger]

i think
idk if the new yellow mat is more sanity intensive than ceu or not

[fiery canopy]

save for trag s2

[pseudo flume]

Its more expensive rn

[tawny turret]

guys, what time is maintenance?

[pseudo flume]

Pins

[tawny turret]

thank you

[humble nova]

the middle one is jp right

[fiery canopy]

yes

[humble nova]

iirc my hirigana 🤓 ☝️

[fiery canopy]

top cn middle jap bottom Korea

[eager mantle]

when tragodia drops on eu server?

[shadow bay]

pins for timer

[robust thistle]

we have an EU server?

[ivory terrace]

EU shld be same as global

[glass mango]

5 more hours till TraGOATdia drops

[thorny edge]

*traGODia

[warped depot]

Is Quercus a decent op to invest in?

[ivory terrace]

wait for haruharu instead

[eager mantle]

5hours left...

[somber coral]

Yo fellas I GOT TOP OPERATOR AGAIN
do I get SNIPER, CASTER, HEALING or AOE

[indigo spoke]

u mean haruka

[median fable]

in general content just use a good medic

[ivory terrace]

someone gets it

[shadow bay]

have ng?

[cursive maple]

both are niche

[warm scarab]

how to find this?

[cursive maple]

pins

[somber coral]

a what?

[ivory terrace]

nightingale

[nimble kite]

Nightingale 6☆

[cursive maple]

https://puppiizsunniiz.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.html

[somber coral]

no

[warm scarab]

thanks

[signal dragon]

krooster website has it too

[warm scarab]

alr thanks

[ivory terrace]

take healing n pray u get ng
or saria ig

[cursive maple]

anyways i think aoe is better

[nimble kite]

Go for her.

[shadow bay]

how about ceobe???

coz u can gamble for ng
or gamble for ceobe

[nimble kite]

Not a core for CCB4.
Because of Damage Reduction risks.

[livid robin]

lemuen or tragodia is better

[shadow bay]

i dont recall he askin for ccb4

[somber coral]

I dont have either

[cursive maple]

trag by a light year

[livid robin]

exualt?

[cursive maple]

close but trag has enemy pathing manipulation so above

[somber coral]

no just wisadel
and rosmontis too idk
maybe that counts

[ivory terrace]

separate question

[regal phoenix]

Trag taunt skill is 15 sec downtime only at max mastery?

Sth like shamare?

[warm scarab]

what does nuker mean?

[somber coral]

people so what do I get from top operator recruitment

[arctic canyon]

Are we getting a maintenance before tragodia's banner? If so, how long is it? First time I want to play as soon as a banner releases

[cursive maple]

large damage in a very short period of time

[burnt tree]

capable of dealing high damage in a short window

[signal dragon]

his S2?
the summon redeploy time starts as soon as you place iirc
masteries don't affect it

[ivory terrace]

u lose 10m to maint kind
see pin

[warm scarab]

ah so that's it I was wondering why tequila was a nuker

[signal dragon]

just keep in mind that tags don't mean anything considering chen is a nuker

[untold swan]

Tragodia is a standart banner right? Is it a must pull or just save or limited one, like hoshi alter?

[somber coral]

oh shit I actually got nightgale

[ivory terrace]

she kinda was. by 2020 standards

[signal dragon]

pull, he's very nice to have

[cursive maple]

she was a nuker so it does mean much, relevancy is another thing

[warm scarab]

oh okay

[burnt tree]

all liberator have nuker in their tag

[somber coral]

so what does nightgale even do

[ivory terrace]

+res support healer

[untold swan]

For longevity, i guess? I'll try to get him in 60 pull then

[glass mango]

Also her cages can be ranged bait too

[ivory terrace]

pull at all costs. stall options do not get any better than this

[somber coral]

that's mid

[shadow bay]

i only have 100 pulls 🥹

[solid yoke]

Say fuck you to enemy art damage

[livid robin]

so last banner was a scam

[indigo spoke]

m9 tragodia?

[burnt tree]

what does haruka s3 do?

[glass mango]

Arts Damage still very threatening
Even with Haruka or Monst3r and such Nightingale still has that place

[somber coral]

I will see about that

[rapid delta]

wait...the mt last for only 10 minutes? do we get the new banner then after MT or is that alter?

[shadow bay]

1. there are little to none res buffer till this age of game
2. she kinda mitigate arts dmg in a stage... so she still see usage within her niche

[haughty holly]

M6
S2 and s3 but s3 can be skipped

[somber coral]

I dont think i've seen arts damage often

[burnt cedar]

realistically S1 is never seeing the light of day just because of the other 2

[cursive maple]

no? did the "close" slip by

[ivory terrace]

ya is 10m maint. most alrdy preloaded
also the kind that eats into event time

[indigo spoke]

why s3? its good

[robust thistle]

you wont see those often until you find one stage that just oneshots your op

[haughty holly]

ask kerf

[shadow bay]

yeh thats why its niche

also dw the other tags also a gamble... its good u win the gamble with medic yeh

[robust thistle]

?????? random name drop

[thin torrent]

10 minute maintenance?

[rapid delta]

but will we have the banner up immediatly after MT?

[ivory terrace]

ya