help

[nimble zenith]

3:50

[runic willow]

Paying to not play the game

[fleet spire]

She powercreeps thorns for sure, she's above average but nothing special really. If she weren't collab, I won't pull personally

[tidal quartz]

hes still on top if you're playing IS

[nimble zenith]

thx fredi🪒

[thick oak]

ok is thorns still better than the collab char for nervous impairment?

[ivory terrace]

always attacking so offensive charge is

[safe lily]

Ye

[marble solar]

ur right as usual queen

[lone valley]

Thorns sucks ass
So no, sakiko is best lord
Has better dmg, better afk

[slim tusk]

yes because noone use thorns for that

[runic willow]

Personal question, do you plan to pull on hoshi banner? Considering to skip that maybe to save up for sash2

[thick oak]

im asking about nervous impairment

[nimble zenith]

thx jack 💋

[safe lily]

There is a silverash alter?

[lone valley]

For nervous u use tragodia
Thorns sucks at applying it anyway

[ivory terrace]

CN stream announcement

[nimble zenith]

yes

[marble solar]

unfortunately yes there is

WRONG REPLY

[fiery canopy]

[thick oak]

ofc im talikng about nervous impairment with thorns + tragodia

[indigo spoke]

can i compare logos and tragodia

[fleet spire]

Does sakiko beat my quibai by a large margin? 🥹

[marble solar]

no

[ivory terrace]

nah mantra is better synergy than thorns

[lone valley]

Fucking ew

[signal dragon]

use trag without thorns

[fiery canopy]

diff roles, diff elements

[lofty helm]

is silverash still the best pick? (considering their mods too)

[nimble zenith]

yes

[thick oak]

i use both units in my team tho?

[lone valley]

Fairly sure ye
Sakiko has like 180k tital dmg

[lofty helm]

thx

[tidal quartz]

the reason you're using her is to bind and sakiko doesn't bind so no

[indigo spoke]

what are their roles

[ember pine]

Why are you comparing nervous when one of those ops doesn’t do anything with nervous

[thick oak]

thorns does nervous tho?

[fleet spire]

Nice! So she still has a slot on my team kek

[nimble zenith]

thorns delta

[fathom nest]

[ivory terrace]

mantra will have leveraged it better than thorns delta trust

[nimble zenith]

have we gotten two deltas in a single archetype yet

[ember pine]

And sakiko does?

[fathom nest]

He was talking about Logos and Trag

[fiery canopy]

logos is mt caster that Inflicts necrosis as a bonus, trag stalls multiple enemies globally

[robust thistle]

huh?

[tidal quartz]

nervous??

[nimble zenith]

are we having two separate convos rn

[fathom nest]

Thorns was not a part of this statement

[severe moth]

anyone worth saving for after tragodia I still haven't done the cheaper pulls for the guaranteed 6*

[fiery canopy]

typo

[raven junco]

Thorns and sakiko
Logos and tragodia

[tidal quartz]

i feel like this chat hit one of those seaborn and is collectively affected by nervous impairment

[ember pine]

🥹

[nimble zenith]

i thought it was logos/trag and thorns/trag
and then sakiko floating around somewhere

[indigo spoke]

why dont they put tragodia to limited banner instead of hoshi

[tidal quartz]

phantom fan count vs hoshiguma fan count

[ember pine]

[robust thistle]

why are you askin us

[sleek finch]

because limited doesnt necessary mean they have to be broken

[tidal quartz]

its just money decision

[thick oak]

is the recent limiteds all broken?

[ivory terrace]

leizi alter if u dun have mlynar ig

[tidal quartz]

hoshi is kinda normal
still strong of course

[ember pine]

I don’t think any of us work at HG so we can’t answer this question so

[raven junco]

Someone answered to thorns guy that if he wants NI he should use tragodia instead of thorns, that was the connection

[ivory terrace]

hoshi alt isn't exactly broken level
we'll see about SA alter later

[tidal quartz]

are we playing nervousimpairmentknights

[proven kelp]

If you cope hard enough sure
The Bind usage is not even that relevant, and if you want bind you just use Ethan

[runic willow]

Feels like itd create a similar situation to good executor ops being pretty hard to get

[tidal quartz]

s3 seems kind of inherently broken for some strategies but could have flaws i guess

[indigo spoke]

if SA atler same level broken as waltuh should i save 300 rolls for both?

[thick oak]

i think collab character wont replace thorns as tragodia partner?

[ember pine]

That doesn’t exist so

[ivory terrace]

we dun even have numbers for him yet

[robust thistle]

didnt we already tell you that sparking isnt advised here

[formal shadow]

thorns x tragodia

[marble solar]

@nimble zenith looking at stream SA alter seems to reduce dp cost by 11 on s2, which is really strong already i think

maybe i underestimated him

[fleet spire]

True

[tidal quartz]

exusiai deniers...

[lime drift]

What makes silver ash good

[proven kelp]

She can't replace something that doesn't exist

[tidal quartz]

hes got a sword

[ivory terrace]

and thorns isn't good partner for tragodia either believe it or not

[fleet spire]

Do people even partner thorns with tragodia wtfrick

[raven junco]

Does it slash the dp or trades with lowest cost unit?

[formal shadow]

le swing (multitarget, nice dph, wide range, fine skill duration)

[arctic hawk]

@thick oak Genuine question why do you keep asking about synergy when clearly the answer is always no everytime

[tidal quartz]

swap is s3

[ember pine]

Nope

[thick oak]

i think the whole point of thorns mod delta is to have nervous impairment applied? and who applies nervous impairment better than a ritualist?

[raven junco]

Ah i see thanks

[lime drift]

So does Mlynar and his is larger no
Should I pick him from the selector if I have Mlynar
Does he do anything else I could just wiki him im realizing

[nimble zenith]

[slim tusk]

that ritualist has better job than babyiing sub par dps

[lone valley]

It sucks is the point
Mantra is million times better for that

[ivory terrace]

read cons

[proven kelp]

And? So what if Thorns benefit from Nervous Impairment if Sakki will still do a bazillion more damage than Thorns

[ember pine]

Puffy how many times do we have to have a conversation about elemental “synergies” for you to understand

[fleet spire]

Do you partner logos with virtuosa

[formal shadow]

yeah wiki him

[tidal quartz]

if you want a serious answer it depends on what you're doing, silverash has some benefits mlynar doesn't even if mlynar's schwing does more

[nimble zenith]

thorns just isn’t good in the first place

[ember pine]

Yuzu I wouldn’t get into this…. You have no idea what you’re dealing with

[thick oak]

i want to maximise thorns damage output so the best way is pair him with tragodia right?

[formal shadow]

synergy in this game is like shipping

[slim tusk]

he is not even mantra

[tidal quartz]

just buff army him like anyone else you have that goal for

[indigo spoke]

do 6k elemental dmg can be affect by RES/DEF?

[fiery canopy]

it doesnt

[formal shadow]

elem is not affected by res/def

[tidal quartz]

only elemental res which doesn't exist on anyone

[ivory terrace]

normal def and res no
enemies will need elemental damage resist

[nimble zenith]

i thought there was an enemy with e res

[fathom nest]

Best thing to do is just tell him yes so he leaves quicker

[formal shadow]

nope that's erst

[thick oak]

whos the bis support for thorns tho?

[tidal quartz]

oh and annoying things that decrease even true damage i guess

[fiery canopy]

I think it was elemental injury but not elemental damage

[compact veldt]

who do i e1 first? i need an order pls

[nimble zenith]

i see

[indigo spoke]

so Tragodia basically just nuke everyone with 6k elemental dmg?

[formal shadow]

aak 🗣️

[proven kelp]

Just block so problem solved sir

[robust thistle]

6k isnt a nuke, hes a staller, not a dps

[meager tundra]

With so many alters that we have nowadays, i can't tell if you guys talking about the ogs one or the alters one

[formal shadow]

mountain maybe
or lapluma/gracebearer for dps

[fiery canopy]

nvm wait

[arctic hawk]

If only everyone could just block or shut up instead of complaining

[ember pine]

That’s why the alters have different nicknames

[proven kelp]

Calling 6k a nuke is like calling a bite of a house ant as strong as the bite of an alligator

[ivory terrace]

that's only 2x ch10 cannon
against enemies it's 90% of the time puny

[nimble zenith]

thorns isn’t supposed to be buffed because he’s an afk laneholder
if you want an afk buffer on him then use skalter or smth

[dim sluice]

Will plume suffice as a spotter for lemuen ?

[compact veldt]

so dps first priority?

[ivory terrace]

could work

[formal shadow]

as always in this game

[dim sluice]

(will she be able to tank atleast for 8secs)

[meager tundra]

So which SA is good right now? Alter or the old one?

[thick oak]

isnt his damage good and important

[fiery canopy]

do confess-47 or something it Inflicts sleep

[ivory terrace]

wait for more details

[fathom nest]

Might as well use Yato

[nimble zenith]

not really

[indigo spoke]

SA alter not even release yet

[lime drift]

Yes if it's a melee unit that is standing still like patriot idk where TF passenger came from

[ivory terrace]

context is for spotting with lemu talent
so yato wun work

[proven kelp]

If you're bringing a dead weight for spotter for Lemeun, you might as well use the Robot that comes with the event

[formal shadow]

alter numbers arent out yet
old one still holds fine but is quite washed

[dim sluice]

Well thate genrally not the case

[glass gate]

is there any operators worth exchanging in the future?

[thick oak]

who has the lowest dp cost in game to swap with sash s3?

[indigo spoke]

is there any ops with alter version but still fine as hell?

[nimble zenith]

pick a robot

[dim sluice]

Oh nah 🥀 is it even worth it I could use gramps too instead of a dead weight

[fleet spire]

Did you missed ines

[lone valley]

What does thiz even fucking mean

[formal shadow]

kroos

[ember pine]

We have no idea

[ivory terrace]

atp just buy pulls
set urself up for tragodia

[glass gate]

already exchanged her

[thick oak]

and whos the most expensive unit to swap costs with a robot?

[sleek finch]

silence shorely

[ivory terrace]

silence alt 2nd mod:

[compact veldt]

so can i do like Mountain -> Lappland -> Sash -> Gracebearer?

[ember pine]

Gracebearer before sash, but like, don’t overthink it

[late oasis]

hi question is there a guide to which operator skills do u default to or is it like case by case situation? i just unlocked exu2’s e1

[nimble zenith]

mud or penance

[ivory terrace]

roadless camelot

[formal shadow]

check roadless camelot in pins

[fallen depot]

Juggernauts like penance, or ifrit

[thick oak]

why did you use e2 ticket on amiya instead of gracebarer?

[nimble zenith]

i love your spirit of inquiry

[thick oak]

i love you
for being nice to me

[ember pine]

Go away Jenniekai

[arctic hawk]

🤨

[tidal quartz]

i believe it's e2 redeployed pot0 penance or mudrock

[lone valley]

[glass gate]

[compact veldt]

some dumbass trolled me

[nimble zenith]

confessions go to #arknights

[formal shadow]

rip

[ivory terrace]

pot 0 = dun exist

[dim sluice]

Wait if I reroll should I do stages till 0-11

[vital cloud]

Ggwp

[indigo spoke]

you should lazer eyes him as a homelander

[dim sluice]

Um so till what?

[ember pine]

Quit on first stage

[compact veldt]

its in my to do list

[nimble zenith]

exit out after entering 0-1

[dim sluice]

Cause we get the free 10 at 0-11

[robust thistle]

just reroll with whatever pulls you have at the start

[fiery canopy]

takes too long, youll burn out

[dim sluice]

We barely get a 10 though isn't that kinda grim

[robust thistle]

its faster

[ivory terrace]

just do single pulls
u r gonna be rerolling anyway mirite

[north swan]

Chat is there no other way to know how many pitty we're on once we forget??

[fiery canopy]

thats how it is youll still get it within like 20 rerolls or something

[late oasis]

btw how do i get fang alter?

[compact veldt]

Damn level went back to 1 once i e1 the operator

[vocal igloo]

no, the rates for a 6* are very good compared to other games. 2% chance.

[runic willow]

You know what's grim?
Czn reroll takes 20-30 min

[ivory terrace]

get lucky on pulls via offrate
but why, no one aims for 5*

[indigo spoke]

true

[robust thistle]

the stats dont change

[fathom nest]

Gacha, and she's terrible

[fiery lynx]

Sadly no for global.

[fleet spire]

Which is nice, since you get more stats for cheaper price

[mild fern]

Do you get rogue trader node upon entering possibility in floor 6 IS5?

[late oasis]

worse than regular fang?

[dim sluice]

🥀

[thick oak]

ok you got me there
as a reward i will leave this chat for at least 1 hour

[compact veldt]

so i dont have to level up if i dont have exp thingy?

[indigo spoke]

roll till next 6* and you will know

[robust thistle]

what I meant is that your stats doesnt get reset after promotion

[dim sluice]

Alr manifesting wisadel and the sisters fr

[ivory terrace]

u might as well
promotiong does at baseline +2 DP

[arctic hawk]

Personally think you should just ask 1 person for help to avoid getting confused
harass a friend

[fathom nest]

Not exactly. But her costs don't make up for her lack of performance

[north swan]

wth 😭 I really had no idea how many pulls I did on my second account from the last *6

[nimble zenith]

i hope you are able to experience and cherish moments of deep tranquility while you are away

[undone portal]

more expensive at least
shes a charger so its a bit difficult to use her for the same situation, shes kinda ok at max investment (s2m3 mod3)

[runic willow]

For you that played longer, do you still bring dps 5 stars like tequila / la pluma etc ever?

[quick parrot]

Is it recommended to buy all the module data blocks in pink cert shot?

Thanks

[ember pine]

Everyone calls them red certs btw

[north swan]

its just Iam considered to do multi or single pulls, if its not soft pitty yet imma do multi but if its like 1/3 before soft pitty idk

[undone portal]

not really. why use 5star dps when you have equivalent 6star dps in the same archetype

[north swan]

Yostar forget to add those or we're not getting it anyway 🗿?

[lime drift]

How many Anni stages are there in total in the rotation

[ember pine]

Just stop forgetting

[vocal igloo]

no, 5* will get replaced as soon as you get more 6*, the only time youd keep em is for util like surfer/cantabile if no ines.

[undone portal]

any 5stars i still use have some additional utilities beyond being a dps unit

[fiery lynx]

CN got pull history on lapland alter. Idk why they are delaying those for global players.

[robust thistle]

delay, more like never getting it

[fiery lynx]

[runic willow]

figured

[north swan]

Idk are we going to normalize taking notes about our own pulls or whaa

[orchid skiff]

Hi guys , between togawa sakiko , hoshiguma alt , haruka , leizi which one is a better choice to skip ? (Based on my current team) (I need to save my pull)

[runic willow]

How much you got saved?

[nimble zenith]

imo skip leizi and pull until hoshi on ato

[orchid skiff]

About 250

[indigo spoke]

i would skip leizi and haruka BUT JUST ME

[ember pine]

Do you even know what they do

[cinder zodiac]

Where do i get all these missing furniture

[quick jolt]

what dont skip leizi ???

[arctic hawk]

If its just you
Don't type

[ember pine]

Good thoughts

[fiery lynx]

You either count your own pity or ignore it just like what I did.

[ivory terrace]

OG SA is just copium for being leizi alter/mlynar less

[short plume]

People, is there any event like web event or any other outside the game itself? I don't keep myself updated with streams and stuff.

[nimble zenith]

usually not

[runic willow]

Thought so too, leizi is kinda a small upgrade to sash right? Since she's similar to mlynar?

[orchid skiff]

Imma add a little bit question at the end what about based on meta

[short plume]

"Usually"? I mean right now.

[slim tusk]

small is underselling

[nimble zenith]

a bit bigger than small

[vocal igloo]

leizi and haruka are both standard so they're more skippable than the other 2, hoshi is limited and decent arts dps so good grab even for those on tight budget. sakiko is true limited being collab and i would say don't skip cause fomo. leizi is the most skippable if you have mlynar.

[fathom nest]

Check the furniture shop. If not there then either from a previous event or no longer available

[quick jolt]

no.. shes a big upgrade

[nimble zenith]

there’s none now

[short plume]

Skip Leizi, non limited. Skip Hoshi alt, they will come back, pull of Ave Mujica if purely for meta and collection stand point.

[vocal igloo]

except hoshi alt wont come back

[nimble zenith]

m

[fiery canopy]

hoshi is limited

[fathom nest]

Leizi is a vignette

[ivory terrace]

hoshi alt is hard to skip unless u wanna come back in 2027 and spark her

[quick jolt]

what the actual fuck is going on in this channel rn

[short plume]

Anything i missed past couple months?

[arctic hawk]

Can you don't type?

[ember pine]

“Purely for meta”

[slim tusk]

ave is only for fomo

[vital cloud]

Is s3 exu2 + hoshi alt better than s2 exu2 dps

[fathom nest]

Bunch of #arknights invading

[nimble zenith]

hoshi being limited

[ember pine]

Newbies helping newbies

[vocal igloo]

no, you came back at a good time, exu2 is the start of the pull gauntlet.

[indigo spoke]

is terra wiki have ops in cn only?

[short plume]

They hit hard, they can't die, they don't come back, probably ever

[orchid skiff]

Dont worry guys i wont just follow the answer blindy imma keep reading

[quick jolt]

is hitting hard your definition of meta

[arctic hawk]

If thats what you think, don't give advice

[ember pine]

[slim tusk]

pepe hit hard guys

[fathom nest]

They don't have the recently revealed ops but everything previously out yes

[ivory terrace]

lemu hit hard too
but not exactly wisadel broken

[short plume]

Hold, miss click, haven't completed the sentence

[hazy zealot]

Does Exusiai Alter's S1 have undocumented iframes during rapid-fire ammo offload? I swear she just lived on 1 hp against a CM camera bird TWICE, and healed AFTER taking the hit; and I have no dodge buffs

[nimble zenith]

i am currently experiencing lapses in consciousness and i feel myself slipping into the dark realm
good bye i will see you all later

[glacial walrus]

if you turn on a light it wont be dark

[fallen depot]

Record a vid and send here

[short plume]

Yes she will, spark her next summer. Not exactly "comes back" but she's still there.

[quick jolt]

thats not worth doing though. 300 pulls is a lot

[indigo spoke]

the Self-Grasping of hoshialter only happen once or everytime she reach 0hp?

[runic willow]

"spark her"

[nimble zenith]

“she’ll come back” skips every banner for the next 6 months

[glacial walrus]

shrimply have 300 pulls

[ivory terrace]

everytime
at least until she pile up damage equal to like 2x her max HP?

[indigo spoke]

no i read in terra wiki it said x2 only

[late oasis]

do you guys know the KyoStinV youtuber? the one that does the low rarity squad arknights strategies? do yall know if they max out the skills of the operators they use? eg.:

[ivory terrace]

ye 2. corrected

[quick jolt]

his ops are usually sl7 unless stated otherwise

[short plume]

But genuinely tho, Sakiko's squad has so much shenanigans and damage AND they won't come back in any form, probably ever.

[ember pine]

Lol yes he does

[runic willow]

Get hoshi now for potentially 30-100 pulls or 300 pulls next year, is that not your proposal?

[late oasis]

sl7? skill level 7?

[ember pine]

Please leave the kitchen

[vital cloud]

Can shenanigans clear my cc
No don't even answer this

[vocal igloo]

basically, which is why its bad advice.

[ivory terrace]

and by then, is hoshi alt still relevant lol

[tawdry aurora]

Is fia dad worth building??

[vocal igloo]

no but 4 sui will

[indigo spoke]

why we shouldnt spank 300 rolls?

p/s typo

[quick jolt]

you shouldnt

[paper gyro]

I saw you get rocks in stage 1 of krooster welfare event
Do you recc farming that (when exu event ends)

[ember pine]

We shouldn’t

[tawdry aurora]

Why not

[ivory terrace]

if u want rock off-event just farm 1-7

[quick jolt]

1-7 is more efficient

[indigo spoke]

i want to ask why we shouldnt, not should. Typo issue

[orchid skiff]

Soooo if possible i should NOT skip hoshiguma alt banner , Thats leaves sakiko and leizi alt which is sakiko is collab limited , so here is my question guys is skipping a leizi alt gonna be a big loss (i dont have mylnar) ?

[runic willow]

Domestic violence is illegal in Rhodes island too

[turbid ocean]

You sink alot of pulls for one singular operator and miss out on seeral others

[quick jolt]

it forces you to skip 4-5 banners just to get 1 operator, and the 6stars you pull along the way will be mostly dupes rather than new stuff

[short plume]

Here's the thing tho. Look it at his account he already have "all" he needs. Strong healer, burst damage, some sustain tanks. Hoshi alt's "easy to use" operator is not even the Hoshi alter herself, it's Haruka. Hoshi is godly in high diff with that anti death and she WILL come back regardless the form. Ave Muji girls? Prob never.

[vocal igloo]

doesn't do much other than be a brick and niche support for 1 unit at the cost of a 6*. cuora is enough to fill his role.

[turbid ocean]

Keep unnecessary comments out they said its a typo

[ivory terrace]

2020 mentality

[ember pine]

People explained this to him btw

[short plume]

Nah, i stand by what i said.

[turbid ocean]

Okay if they ask again then I will need to remind them of rule 3

[ember pine]

Just say you have fomo. Thats fine. Giving delusional advice isn’t fine

[paper gyro]

I don't see rule 3 in pins..

[fiery canopy]

scroll down a bit

[analog birch]

I cant forward the message goddammit

[sleek raptor]

does toddifons activate her talent on the event enemies

[ember pine]

It’s fine they can figure it out

[turbid ocean]

I don't know exact context but if you are saving from now you shouldn't be missing either Hoshi2 or Sakiko

End of conversation

Don't continue this thanks

[thick token]

Is the tier 5 pyramid mat for thorns delta mod used for anything else?? If i dont wanna spend them on him

[paper gyro]

It happens to me when the guide video is too big

[turbid ocean]

If you're typing something, don't send it.

[quick jolt]

exualt event? dont think any of them are sarkaz

[ember pine]

Yes it’s used for many important things

[ivory terrace]

it will say in enemydex if they are

[short plume]

Wdym delusional? He legit already has everything. Damage operators, strong healer, strong sustainer. He can collect things freely. And Sakiko's squad is actually strong. Are you tweaking?

[vocal igloo]

[thick token]

Such as what

[turbid ocean]

@short plume I said drop it

[hazy zealot]

ohh, on rerecording, I think I just misread the camera bird ability. It only deals damage if it cannot steal ammo; so since it stole Exu's ammo, it did 0 damage

[analog birch]

its for e2, modules, and specializations for the next few ops

[turbid ocean]

We're moving on

[ivory terrace]

drop F bombs and move

[haughty holly]

Is it worth it to e2 qiubai for the 45% faster training on Lord?

[quick jolt]

you should e2 qiubai if you're gonna use qiubai

[thick token]

Damn...which ones?? Trag included??

[ivory terrace]

not rly
cause u can just e2 gavi alter and have 95% total on m3

[vocal igloo]

s3 mastery for lem, exu2 e2 promotion, and some important mods iirc.

[analog birch]

yeah its included

[vocal igloo]

oh yeah trag s2 mastery as well

[short plume]

Hold on, just tell me... Chat moves quick, and i am asking this politely in tone. Did i break a rule? I genuinely thought it's just a healthy debate.

[thick token]

Aight thx i'll save them then

[ember pine]

You can check prts, it lists all mat usages

[turbid ocean]

Not the place for debates actually, some discussion is fine
But this is a debate so take it to #strategy if you want to extensively argue

[orchid skiff]

Iam sorry i didnt know my question triggered a war

[runic willow]

I probably want leizu still but I alr have enough dps to not need mlynar /leizu i feel?

[vital cloud]

Hi light do we know if s3 exu2 + hoshi alt is a good investment in terms of dps, if it's been tested and compared yet

[turbid ocean]

Don't contribute to it and you're fine

[ivory terrace]

tell u what, just pull as ur heart desires
u will be fine either way

[short plume]

Well... Discussion for me includes debate, but alrighty understandable.

[turbid ocean]

Im sure it has uses by why would you sack Exu S2

[turbid ocean]

Keyword extended

[pine plover]

which narantuya skill was used for 1-7 solo?

[ivory terrace]

s2
read peteryr guide

[odd sky]

s2

[vocal igloo]

roster doesn't really matter for upcoming op prio imo, what matters is how many pulls you have.

[haughty holly]

Gavial alter is from the side story right

[ivory terrace]

is from summer limited

[rain forge]

for the heavy defenders in S2-2 should i use orchid + amiya to soften them up before they reach my main line of defence?

[haughty holly]

cooked

[indigo spoke]

i think it was me

[arctic hawk]

So stop typing

[ivory terrace]

m1 and m2 is covered by irene/logos
m3 u either slap a 95% or just sleep past it

[quick jolt]

if you plan to play is6 a lot you should still get leizi

[fathom nest]

The spiral stage right? That works. Steward may be a better choice than Amiya though

[runic willow]

250, I'm considering atm trag, hoshi alt banner, leizi, ava, and now sash alt so that's a lot of pulls if I'm not lucky

[fallen depot]

Orchid amiya should be able to kill the tanks before they go out of the spiral

[quick jolt]

if you got 250 rn you're most likely going to be fine to get everything. you'd have to get really unlucky

[pine plover]

do i need mastery for it?

[ivory terrace]

even lv7 works

[odd sky]

e1 is fine idk the lvl tho

[vocal igloo]

hows your gold cert econ looking, also do you have monthly? if both are yes you're pretty safe grabbing everyone.

[pine plover]

[vital cloud]

Cause s3 concept is cool and I'm looking for numbers for my argument in context of boss killing

[ember pine]

[thick token]

S2-2 doesnt have heavy defenders tho
I think you meant 2-2

[turbid ocean]

If the boss has 3000 defense and less than 70 res sure

[runic willow]

100 gold cert, no monthly
OK sounds solid then

[haughty holly]

No Irene sadly, but I do have logos e2
Will probs do that for m2-m3

[ember pine]

Use him for m1 as well

[ivory terrace]

more info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeH6J9eem-s

[short plume]

Tbh the gauntlet of incoming operators are so packed(either meta defining or lore heavy or BOTH) that i genuinely think we're all cooked either way on whatever we pull Just good luck on whatever you chose to pull i guess

[ivory terrace]

exactly
someone fucking gets it

[arctic hawk]

This channels only for meta

[vocal igloo]

one bad banner and you might be cooked, id wait and see how your trag pulls go before deciding leizi. otherwise no reason to fret

[fathom nest]

The only meta op coming is Trag since Exu2 is already here

Everyone else is whatever

[arctic hawk]

Yeap, the rest is damage vomit until maybe next banner

[vital kelp]

guys should i pull for mon3tr shes coming to me in 5 days i have 400 pulls rn

[runic willow]

If I don't care about fomo I'm considering skipping hoshi BC leizi looks cooler
But limited banner is pretty cool

[ivory terrace]

get lucky in 10 trust

[fathom nest]

Oh just who I wanted to see

[vital kelp]

hi whats up

[vocal igloo]

no, you guys are already getting rushed schedule. don't risk it. also does tw have pull history.

[fathom nest]

Does TW have pull history?

[vital kelp]

oh, lemme check

[short plume]

Haruka is also supposedly "best" afk healer right? Can we talk about ops that far ahead?

[ivory terrace]

better than quercus at least

[vocal igloo]

as long as its already released in cn

[ember pine]

Well she released before sakiko…..

[fathom nest]

Healing also isn't such a big role that needs the best op

[fallen depot]

As long as only kit based question and already confirmed

[ivory terrace]

but idk about being better than eyjaberry lol

[fathom nest]

She is slightly better than Eyja for general healing

[vocal igloo]

well, higher hp/s including sanc if i remember correctly.

[vital kelp]

yes we have pull history why?

[proud zephyr]

stupid question but what do the + symbols mean for 4 and above auto deploys, is that a rate up or something?

[fathom nest]

wtf

[vocal igloo]

wtf

[short plume]

There we go, and don't forget that massive sanctuary too

[ivory terrace]

cause laws i knew it

[runic willow]

Will lappalt be on either hoshi or sash banner?

[pine plover]

sash

[fathom nest]

It's only 30%

[vocal igloo]

it means you need to use a sanity potion for it and that you have one to use.

[proud zephyr]

Oh whoops

[ember pine]

Yes sasster, with shit rate of course

[vocal igloo]

wtf, so wheres global's pull count

[odd sky]

wtf tw has pull history

[ivory terrace]

none
cause no laws regulating gacha in global

[ember pine]

Wow green name correct

[pine plover]

well, TW got Gryphline as direct publisher from HG

[short plume]

Ave Mujica is just i quote "damage vomit" but still hits hard(and far ass too)

[vital kelp]

damn L bozo ratio moment for global ig

[pine plover]

at least JP got royal token selector

[paper gyro]

I thought dossoles holiday was a no sanity event
It shows "use sanity" in archive

[vocal igloo]

😔

[fathom nest]

JP and KR are fucked too

[ember pine]

How do you feel about abyssal hunters

[ivory terrace]

u do that for tequila

[runic willow]

Yostar moment?

[arctic hawk]

Damage vomit kind of implies they hit hard

[pine plover]

it was obsidian festival few early stages

[short plume]

Sounds pretty good to me... Heal massive amount and reduce incoming damage, which also indirectly means greater healing efficacy.

[vital kelp]

damn yostar doing yostar things

[ivory terrace]

the event that had 0 sanity stages was heart of surging flame
the story stages. cause it had separate section for mat farming

[ember pine]

Me when I bring 5 operators to make 1 have the strength of 1.2

[odd sky]

what is this term I'm hearing for the first time

[fathom nest]

Healing means jack shit when everything is dead before they reach my ops

[vital cloud]

Good pick for manglerbeast, buys time too

[paper gyro]

Did the new patch remove "no sanity clear" qol

[vital kelp]

any ways guys is mon3tr m6 or just s2m3? i mean im kinda stacked in terms of resources but just to make sure

[ivory terrace]

unless u have some use in mind for that s3, ye just use s2

[pine plover]

it's no sanity on losing

[paper gyro]

Oic

[ember pine]

I haven’t used s3 outside of is5

[ivory terrace]

it's like -1 sanity refund regardless
u will get it back in 6m

[pine plover]

and it's not even here yet

they will remove the practice mode later

[ivory terrace]

what happens to that pinboard mission when they do

[indigo spoke]

is exu2 consider burst dps?

[paper gyro]

I lost each MT ex stage like 5 or 6 times..

[vocal igloo]

shes m6 since s2 in general content and s3 in is5 or when you need true dmg.

[short plume]

I mean i bring gladiia and Ulpianus. Then i can have a sudden tweakout and nothing would hapen to my blue box

Also talking about blue box, yo wtf is up with that Pramanix skill lmao.

[ember pine]

If you have a meta squad then why are you even remotely worried about the blue box?

[ivory terrace]

be glad it's now -1 refund on CM
instead of 50%

[arctic hawk]

Meta squads camp red box

[ember pine]

Anyway, I asked bc you seem sold on this ave mujica synergy… I would think vet player knows how bad it is to waste squad slots for measly buff

[lusty prawn]

how far is the story now in NA, like node 20 something?

[short plume]

I'm answering your question. That's what i thought about the Hunters. They feel like the most brain dead faction to use. Just put 2 or 3 of them down with Logos and nothing gets through.

[ivory terrace]

16 chapters inclding prologue
CN has 1 more

[arctic hawk]

Did you really though?
How often are they not misinfoing with extra confidence

[vocal igloo]

? idk what you mean by nodes. we got ch15 not too long ago but cn has ch16.

[ember pine]

[nimble zenith]

oh… are you still talking about ave mujica

[lusty prawn]

sooo the levels goes up to 15-X?

[ivory terrace]

15-20 or so yeee

[pine plover]

global server is JP, KR, and EN
there is no such thing as NA server

[arctic hawk]

Ok im not gonna continue don't want a DM

[vocal igloo]

yes, 15-20 or if you're including H stages H15-4.

[formal shadow]

synergyslop... boring, off meta, isn't as fun as playing REAL niches. skip 🥱

[lusty prawn]

i have to do this hidden front shit to progress to 15?

[formal shadow]

no

[vocal igloo]

no

[odd sky]

some rewards there

[vocal igloo]

you should be able to skip there after doing ch3? thats what i heard.

[lusty prawn]

oh i guess i beat 15 alr

[short plume]

Well yes, i never said the Ave girls are on par with them or anything, but you can't deny they can still pull damage(pretty big) and some weird anti death bs. Their damage and range shenanigans allows them to clear like 90% of stages with minimum brain power usage. And again the dude already got everything, might as well collect an actually functional(somewhat) collab squad.

[lusty prawn]

civilight eterna, img guess ass?

[ember pine]

Okay so we’re just back to square 1🥱

[nimble zenith]

we should all live in peace and join the cherubs in the flower fields

[ivory terrace]

the inverse is also true... if u had everything u needed y bother pulling

[vocal igloo]

niche more like. unless you have specific usecase you ignore.

[short plume]

Jesus man, all of this autocorrect

[turbid ocean]

If I recall
This dude ask who to skip, presumably one
Leizi is the easiest answer, I don't know why this is still going on

[short plume]

I said that too didn't i?

[nimble zenith]

are there any good upcoming base skills
is tragodia good

[fathom nest]

You can also use the bottom of the barrel complete dogshit 5 stars in the game and clear every event and story chapter. General content isn't exactly a good parameter to work off of

[turbid ocean]

My point is you all are still typing

[short plume]

And then just put Ave girls as a recommendation on top

[formal shadow]

tragodia good in factory or something
hoshi2 for cc?

[turbid ocean]

[nimble zenith]

hm ok thx 🪒

[ivory terrace]

for base?

[short plume]

Man, i feel like i'm gonna get a warn if i continue this topic, can we stop?

[fading saddle]

Did the 2nd R6S collab do a rerun for the 1st R6S collab ops?

[fiery canopy]

yes

[nimble zenith]

is he really the only one 😭
wait i realized i asked two questions

[fading saddle]

My copium for Yato alter is higher now

[fiery canopy]

if we cope enough it will be real

[odd sky]

no, tragodia has combo with ms christine and vermeil

[arctic hawk]

You will also get warned if you keep giving bad advice based off your vibes

[short plume]

Yep, friend got her Ash from there. So hopefully you can get Kirin Yato

[ivory terrace]

hoshi alt has new BiS CC base skill
ditch ur mon3tr

[fathom nest]

Where does Hoshi go?

[fading saddle]

I hope Yato alter comes back because she was the sole reason I started arknights

[orchid skiff]

Wait there is possibility we can still get collab character like kirin r yato ?

[ivory terrace]

hoshi alt + OG swire for 3% fac and 7% tp from CC

[fathom nest]

Oh you edited

[mental gull]

best ways to farm orundum besides first clears?

[fading saddle]

Hopefully with the 2nd Monster Hunter collab being announced

[fathom nest]

og Swire?

Or alter?

[ivory terrace]

ye OG. edited

[fathom nest]

[fathom nest]

Annihilation

[ivory terrace]

was there? didn't notice from stream

[short plume]

Yo, again how is it bad? The dude legit has everything he needs(how many times do i have to say this?) and everything that's not a collab comes back eventually in whatever forms. The collab ain't even as bad as dungeon meshi either(speaking in the operator's relative power).

[nimble zenith]

hm
mlynar+vivi+flametail+swire+hoshi perhaps?

[ivory terrace]

ye that works ig

[odd sky]

bro can you shut the fuck up already, it's clogging

[formal shadow]

because we're metawankers not collectionwankers

[past cloak]

Which storyline is lemuen in?

[short plume]

Bro, i'm trying. Y'all keep pulling shi in

[nimble zenith]

is hoshi only 1% more than m3

[ember pine]

You’re doing the opposite of trying

[short plume]

Laterano side of things. Guide Ahead, Hortus de Escapismo. Also there's a channel for that

[ivory terrace]

indeed
but hey, everyone else who had +fac from CC had 2%

[odd sky]

per factory so

[nimble zenith]

💀 ig thats true

[past cloak]

i'm asking in this channel since I wanna get him as a healer

[nimble zenith]

ascalon and monster are cuter so i might just use them
thx though

[short plume]

Lemuen?

[late oasis]

is there anyone worth getting in the purchase certificate store?

[hazy zealot]

you probably mean Lumen, then. He is in Stultifera Navis

[ember pine]

Oh, you’re talking about lumen.

He’s bad btw, don’t waste your sanity or materials for him

[vocal igloo]

thats lumen, also hes ass for 6* cost, invest in silence or sussuro instead.

[short plume]

You mean Lumen?

[past cloak]

Oh

[past cloak]

Yeah, i got it mixed up

[past cloak]

How do you get silence or sussuro

[ivory terrace]

full ave mujuca base be like

[short plume]

I mean he "works" but definitely not worth the 6* level investment. Use some 4 star healers like SUS. Probably won't need more than her for most contents

[thick token]

Is there ever a point in using non-prod bonus skills in factory/tp, eg. only capacity limit and morale drain reduction?? Prod bonus is the only meaningful skill right?? (Outside of specific comps like jaye e0 or vermeil e1 ofc)

[pliant jackal]

do i get my exu alter module to lvl 3 or its fine to leave at 2?

[past cloak]

Ok, thanks

[ivory terrace]

ye. esp since ideally u'd be checking in like every 12h or smth to do rotation

[ember pine]

Well you mentioned the exceptions so yeah just them pretty

[ivory terrace]

for her, yes. all the way

[short plume]

Also, he's in the abyssal hunter/Aegir storyline. I forgot the name, all of them are kinda hard

[thick token]

Huh so which is it lol

[past cloak]

I see, but is perfurmer a good subsitute for sussora or Silence?

[ember pine]

Sure

[ivory terrace]

perfumer is aoe medic

[sleek raptor]

yeah

[thick token]

So limit and morale buff just for rotation?? If i rotate often enough i dont need them??

[ivory terrace]

or even check back regularly to collect ur resources

[short plume]

They're different. One is single target(Silence is weird) and Perfumer is AoE(lower heals but heals more people at once).

[thick token]

Aight then maybe it's not so bad to just use ppl like noir corne or beagle after all

[ember pine]

Dude, you DONT use them outside of specific combos

[past cloak]

kay

[thick token]

I'm confused, yall saying 2 different things

[ivory terrace]

even for vermeil setup, baseline is noir + cuora

[fathom nest]

Does more than R6S at least

[turbid ocean]

If newbie, see the team building guide in pins
It has all specific good operators for newer players

[compact veldt]

does sash need e1?

[past cloak]

i'm assuming that's in the pins

[fathom nest]

He needs e2

[formal shadow]

he needs e2

[short plume]

I'd say use Silence tbh she's single target but her drones heals AoE. Weird as hell but i remember her carrying my dumbass in early stages of Arknights.

[ivory terrace]

e2
dun cope that s2

[compact veldt]

for stats or s3?

[ember pine]

We aren’t

You only use productivity ops in a normal setup, outside of those specific combos and special situation

[fathom nest]

s3

[compact veldt]

until s3 is unlocked s1 is used?

[thick token]

Ok then...rip still lacking prod bonus

[ivory terrace]

this. u shld be logging in regularly just to collect ur stuff anyways

[compact veldt]

asking for sash

[formal shadow]

you can use s2 as a sort of defender

[compact veldt]

okkk

am unable to get mats to e1 gracebearer💔

[short plume]

Am i tweaking? Sash? Silverash? I've never seen anyone short down his codename like that lmao

[ivory terrace]

ye

[arctic hawk]

this is common

[fiery canopy]

sa could mean other things

[short plume]

Legit? Damn i must be livin under a rock

[short plume]

Aaahhh, ye... My bad

[compact veldt]

ppl have been saying sash to me so me being lazy to type full name ended up copying them

guys do you use sanity for mats or you just produce them in the factory?

[ember pine]

“Mats” refers to all the things that are not lmd/exp so yes, use sanity on those and use base for lmd/exp

[past cloak]

Who should be my second healer? perfumer is the first one btw to make it clear

[fiery canopy]

sus

[ivory terrace]

usually we refer mats to those "elite" mats. ur rocks salt and all that jazz

[short plume]

Mats like operator upgrade mats? Yes. Factory is only for 3 things Exp, moneh, and orundum farming(pls don't do this if you're new)

[fiery canopy]

wait how do u not have ptilo or silence actually

[ivory terrace]

used selector on smth else bet

[past cloak]

I used my selector on texas because I thought she was cool

[short plume]

SUSuro.

[craggy stirrup]

will this comp be fine with myrtle? or do i build cantabile/muelsyse (broke af rn but yyyeaah)

[coarse tide]

Hi guys does silveralsh atl look like a next gen support

[short plume]

Peak

[ivory terrace]

maybe
we'll see more info later

[coarse tide]

Hes looking like dp deleter

[arctic hawk]

Dest alter #17

[short plume]

For most content? Yes, Myrtle produce so much dp so quickly. You can put your dps down pretty quick

[nimble zenith]

sa >=< ines

[arctic hawk]

Would consider Cantabile as addition or upgrade to myrtle
She can actually hold lane early properly

[compact veldt]

yes to upgrade to e1

[opaque turret]

my team are only E1.. does this mean I can't get to the monoliths?

[short plume]

Then yes. All mats need to be farmed from stages

[fiery canopy]

i made a guide to bypass stone farming altogether if u want

[past cloak]

wait, what do you mean by "don't do this if you're new"

[opaque turret]

i want to get to HQ Lv3 and cheese by crafting the sticks

[fiery canopy]

yeah if u cant beat the combat nodes u can use the secret strat

[compact veldt]

ok cool btw my base idk what I am doing will read stuff and build them up when i get free time

[opaque turret]

slide guide ong

[nimble zenith]

don’t do orundum farming

[past cloak]

Orundum farming?

[ember pine]

Check /base and /baseskills when you do, in #bot-spam

[fiery canopy]

sent in dms

[arctic hawk]

You can either produce LMD or Orundum in trading posts
One of them lets you build operators with much more freedom, the other runs you dry for a few extra pulls a month

[past cloak]

oh ok

[short plume]

1. So many operator uses rocks, which is needed for orundum production.
2. The efficiency is so low(sanity to orundum generated). You'd need to farm hundreds of rocks every 2-3 days, which will be better used to upgrade your ops if you're new.

[past cloak]

ok

[craggy stirrup]

oh yeah regarding this do i build skalter or i dont need to until later chapters like 13 or smthn

[fiery canopy]

u dont need her for any story chapter

[fathom nest]

Any content*

[short plume]

The only realistic way you'd need/want to do orundum farming is

1. You're THAT desperate for an operator.
   2.You already have everyone you want maxed out(or to your liking). Like me for example, i already got 350s of ops. Might as well increase my saving, nothing to farm.
2. You're tweaking and dgaf anyway

[craggy stirrup]

okay may i at least know where muelsyse is used so i can at least get an idea of when to build her

[arctic hawk]

So all scenarios you already wouldn't seek advice for anyways yes

[past granite]

Should I get skadi or surtr

[craggy stirrup]

wait what

[turbid ocean]

from what

[fierce needle]

will top summon guarantee kal'tsit when she gets added to recruitment?

[turbid ocean]

Surtr in a vaccum easily

But what and how and why

[silver smelt]

how much sanity does it usually take to e2lv60m3 mod3 a 6* character

[past granite]

It's in this banner :p

[nimble kite]

She has Summon tag?

[turbid ocean]

Looks like it

[fierce needle]

she does

[craggy stirrup]

oh ignore that banner
kernel banners suck

[turbid ocean]

See pins if you want meta choices (Surtr and Skadi are not meta)

[past granite]

Ah I see thanks for the information

[fierce needle]

looks like we gotta thank Mag for not having summon tag with this one :yay:

[nimble kite]

Oh. Then with Medic/Healing.
If they fall, Magallan jumpscare lol.

[past granite]

But why though

[turbid ocean]

Dont jump the gun until EN gets it too

[fierce needle]

oh u sweet summer child
she dont have summon

[turbid ocean]

The ops are either dated or niche

[mortal sigil]

How many pairs of sisters are there in the game currently

[orchid skiff]

Hi guys wondering Do we have some list like spend priority list on current pack on shop ? (Like for what worth buying and whatnot) beside the operator selector ofc

[compact veldt]

ok sure

[nimble kite]

Oh, indeed.

[past granite]

Man I have tons to learn 😔

[compact veldt]

which skill should i use for gracebearer s1 or s2?

[rare osprey]

s2

[fierce needle]

playable?

[past cloak]

Who should I switch out for sussora

[mortal sigil]

Yeah

[compact veldt]

could you pls tell me for lappland and amiya too?

[fallen depot]

Greyyalt prob

Actually why are you using texas

[rare osprey]

s2 and s1(im assuming you're still with caster amiya) respectively

[short plume]

She's cool

[fierce needle]

8 i think

[past cloak]

Because she’s cool and she’s friends with exusiai number 1 and number 2

[fiery canopy]

they already e1 lvl 50'd just keep those for now and stop investing e2 exu2, logos and lemuen

[compact veldt]

base amiya yes not alt but i used e2 on her so jus chking

[short plume]

No deadass, he used his selector on her. Let this peak behavior slide, i'd say swap out Grey, bring SUSuro in

[mortal sigil]

Noted

[rare osprey]

that's account damage but whatever

[lusty prawn]

???

[fallen depot]

3 vanguards is too much. I wouldnt use texas, but shes already e2 max... ft or myrtle has to go if texas isnt benched

[fiery canopy]

its cm condition

[compact veldt]

oops so i chose s1 for amiya hope its right, thanks

[indigo spoke]

should i use liskarm or nearl

[plush falcon]

Have u tried looking the cm condition

[lusty prawn]

i forgot those even exist

[past cloak]

texas is non-negotiable I used my free e2 on her and myrtle is a very useful dp maker

ok ft has to go

[orchid skiff]

Up anyone ?

[lusty prawn]

CM conditon then i use wisedel and lapland alter

[fallen depot]

Flametail is a decent early wave laneholder. You either sac greyalt aoe, or flametail possibility. Rest of your units are already pretty balanced

[compact veldt]

In 2h 45m, am getting saria, should i be excited?🫣

[short plume]

The 30 dollar(not the skin one) one is the most packed. Can't guarantee anything bellow that one.

[short plume]

Pray the tag won't get crossed out

[compact veldt]

whats that?

[arctic hawk]

Liskarms doing less than greyy2

[fallen depot]

His only mid and latewave blocker become sankta. 1 blocker isnt enough early on

[short plume]

There's this probability that the recruitment tag beside the top operator one can get crossed out(disappear if you will) and now your "top operator" is radom.

[odd sky]

we have sanity eq and $/roll
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ECHn5IWPfxVDLVB2rSe8N_zrdC9B9VIskolgbq1z9qs/edit?usp=sharing

[fallen depot]

If they have insane aoe dps like wis or mlynar, then maybe 1 blocker is viable

[orchid skiff]

Tysm

[wet rain]

what should i buy with my 300 distinctions

[odd sky]

pulls probably

[turbid ocean]

Dont need AOE
E1 Exu is already insane

Grace and Sankta can each hold a lane just fine

[sage plover]

should i use all my originums for pulls

[wet rain]

if i bought pulls ill get
110 left since already bought the first few

[compact veldt]

am a newbie am talking abt day 5 6* selector

[wet rain]

depends on you if you dont want skins

[odd sky]

wtf, you should only buy them when you can full clear

[wet rain]

i can full clear it
just didn't fully did it

[odd sky]

why are you asking then
110 can't get anything

[short plume]

Oooh, be excited then. She'll be carrying you for a long ass time, she did mine even now and i'm a year one player.

[wet rain]

was saving up for myl
Also in 110 that would i get if i fully clear it

[compact veldt]

which skill does saria need?

[compact veldt]

wow thanks

[odd sky]

mlynar will be a while, cuz we just got him a couple months ago?

[short plume]

All of them, unironically.

[odd sky]

just s1

[wet rain]

i see then ill just wait i think ill get 70 more when myl is far

[compact veldt]

gg thanks

[wet rain]

time to buy, thanks

[short plume]

Need? As in most used? S1. But all of them are very functional skills. She's got no "bad" skill so to speak.

[fiery canopy]

i love my arts dmg amp

[scarlet finch]

you not saving up for operators trade? 180 dist

[wet rain]

i have 110 left
And im only aiming for mylnar

[short plume]

This yo, i still remember melting bosses with S3 and Surtr

[wet rain]

since i already bought ines so i just need myl now

[arctic hawk]

[fiery canopy]

what skill does phantom use in IS

[analog birch]

is phantom even used in IS

S2 prolly, with IS mod

[odd sky]

s2
in the off-chance you're playing izumik, s3

[fiery canopy]

game gave it to me just now

[odd sky]

read what it does first :ya:

[fiery canopy]

uhh something something atk

[odd sky]

i meant the is mod, it lets phantom stack his s2 atk

[fiery canopy]

o

[nimble zenith]

o i

[analog birch]

oh hey also remember his attacks reduce summon cd :ya:

[silver smelt]

any point saving expedited plans or no

[fallen depot]

Mass recruitment during rainy days. Else no

[odd sky]

generally you'd want to keep a nice balance of recruit, with doing them everyday for green cert and gold cert, and you save the expedite only for 4/5/6 star

[silver smelt]

that's today, wheres the recruitment guide

not sure which tags guarantee 4* or whatever

[odd sky]

mass recruitment is for someone who doesn't do recruit, and panic getting gold certs

[silver smelt]

i see

[odd sky]

https://puppiizsunniiz.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.html for calculator
and /rectags in #bot-spam

there's the krooter one too for easy pot info

[silver smelt]

alright ty

do monthly cards stack or do they proc sequentially?

[rain forge]

im not sure if i have steward

[rain forge]

yeah that stage, when i enter it, it says 2-2 tho

[odd sky]

max is 3 monthly, sequentianlly
the one we got for free is not really a monthly, it's a 'login event'

[rain forge]

between tequila gracebearer and lappland who’s the best choice for the e2 and level 80 tickets

[odd sky]

teq

[rain forge]

both or just e2

[tiny vault]

For stages 3-8, is it worth it doing without support so I can use auto deploy on it?

[shadow bay]

u would only care bout this if u gonna farm it

[hidden nacelle]

you can assume you dont need auto deploy for any parts of story
and worst case scenario you go back and make an auto deploy when you need to

[rain forge]

@odd sky

[tiny vault]

I see

[odd sky]

both

[rain forge]

alr

[eager mantle]

Hii, <14 days player, i already ask something but i totally forgot to read so now that i have free time i can ask and pay attenction

My pulls (only 6stars)
10 pity Beginner banner : Exusiai

10 pity Ines+Penance : Ines and Pink Fox lady

268 left from guaranteed : 1st Exusiai cov.
256 left from guaranteed : 2nd Exusiai cov.
254 left from guaranteed : 3rd Exusiai cov.

Heres my characters and teams, looking for any advice! I have problems with event and story (2-9)

[odd sky]

/material in #bot-spam for the stages in story you might want to auto
it's still better to farm event stages

[lofty helm]

Do these rest every week or it’s gone after being claimed once?

[soft lion]

the last day of free pulls is also the last day for the banner, right?

For all lim banners?

[lofty helm]

should be

[odd sky]

any advice is too broad
raise baseslaves /base /baseskills in #bot-spam
shoulda stop pulling after getting first exusiai alter
save for tragodia
get to 4-7 for base mat

[hidden nacelle]

upgrade exu the new cov more and she will carry you

erase whisperain from team
invest some resources in E1 on your team since they're gonna feel dysfunctional
i wouldnt use blacknight for DP but since you have ines DP isnt a huge

[odd sky]

only once
the per week is the orundum bar in bottom left, the i+ button tells you which to clear to raise the cap to 1800 per week

[lofty helm]

thx

[craggy stirrup]

That is a LOT of operators
as for the team follow what the others said
i do advise against using exu1 and instead replace her with kroos the keen glint in later chapters (cost-performance efficiency, also exusiai is dated and krooster has some helpful though miniscule util) UNLESS you really wanna invest in exu1 then go ahead
you could've E2'd ur gracebearer instead of silence but that's done already, other than that exu2 is your highest priority aside from E1ing base slaves and your other main units

[eager mantle]

Oh yeah i did It, but free pulls from login and Daily free got me the other 2

[odd sky]

alright, lucky sht

[plain ferry]

what operator do i e2

[craggy stirrup]

Wis'adel. No other option
then you can focus on exu2, and then lappie2

[fiery canopy]

exu2 wisadel lappalt

[odd sky]

e1 pepe maybe, so she's "functional"
e2 wisadel lappland exu2

don't use fartooth and amiya

[eager mantle]

Just for context, i got like all the gracebearer After Silence and ticket to free e2 and i didnt even have the other healer so yeah

[fiery canopy]

phantom getting silly amounts of atk

[muted edge]

Is the 2/5/2 complete once I max the 5th factory?

Since it looks like the power fits exactly in the budget

[odd sky]

yes
do you have proviso?

[muted edge]

Well, yes; I’m basically waiting for drones now

[fiery canopy]

downgrade 1 tp to lvl 2 for proviso

[muted edge]

….uh why?

[compact veldt]

which banner gave ines?

[formal shadow]

proviso doesn't work with 4gold orders which is only available with tp3

[odd sky]

and upgrade a factory to lvl3 too
cuz proviso baseskill works better with lvl2 and you get extra prod with lvl3 fac

[muted edge]

Like she’s not even e2 yet; I forget she even exists; I burned my LMD even setting this up

[odd sky]

man 😔
put the horse to work

[fiery canopy]

oh

[craggy stirrup]

her base skill is very good and what they said about 4 gold orders being exclusive to TP lv 3
E0 is fine for now, just get her WORKING

[eager mantle]

This

Idk the names

[odd sky]

tf you pullin

[fiery canopy]

she guarantees 4/5 gold trades everytime with lvl 2 tp

[compact veldt]

damn gg guess they are standard banner

[craggy stirrup]

oh that is crazy GG
Keep saving

[eager mantle]

There was a discount on the First 10 pulls for a 5star guaranteed and i was lacking back then

[compact veldt]

he seem like a spender

[muted edge]

From the base skills list; I only have two units left to build; Roberta and the proviso you speak so highly of

[odd sky]

shouldn't pull standard rotating 2 rate up banner next time
and 5* guarantee is a scam

[eager mantle]

Im not, i Just got lucky

[compact veldt]

oh you got so many operators for a newbie

[eager mantle]

Didnt know that that wasnt normal for a newbie

[compact veldt]

well gg

[muted edge]

….so why does proviso hate a LV 3 training post?

Like the 2/5/2 is done once I get the drones to LV 2 the 5th factory

[odd sky]

because lvl3 trading posts give a chance of 4 gold order which proviso base skill doesn't work with

[lime drift]

Does Leizi do more DMG than Mlynar

[fiery canopy]

yes

[turbid ocean]

Depends on defense
And area to work with

[craggy stirrup]

her base skill wont work
by allowing her a lv 2 TP you can get as much LMD as you would from a typical lv 3 TP (excluding other... broken TP skill combos) but with less investment, meaning you can Factories!! Oh my God 3 Level 3 Factories!!!

[wind mason]

The banner ending in 2 hours?

[craggy stirrup]

no 2 days

[lime drift]

Is she better overall
Will Uncle horse be dethroned

[turbid ocean]

No

[muted edge]

About the 5th factory….guessing I alternate it between gold and EXP based on needs?

[wind mason]

Oh okey .

[turbid ocean]

She can be better by a little bit sometimes

situationally

otherwise shes a side grade

[odd sky]

and she doesn't exactly hate lvl3 trading post, technically lvl3 trading post is still better for proviso because of the added production, but in the 252 context, the lvl3 factory is better than the extra she gets from lvl3 trading post

[lime drift]

Thank goodness
Thank you

[exotic fox]

guys how do i get medic amiya?

[craggy stirrup]

chapter 14-21

[marble solar]

chapter 14

[muted edge]

Trust is now really bad in the base since all my dorms are LV 1; guess you don’t care about that and just drag the operator you want to trust farm to a stage?

[craggy stirrup]

yeah
dorms arent really worth upgrading i tell you that much

[muted edge]

I guess there’s the 6 activity dorms ( they don’t take power)

[odd sky]

activity room exist, also you only need 100 trust for stats, and stages and base assistant is enough

[eager mantle]

wait, r u sure that a 3 star is better than a 6star? it feels weird (hsr player)

[odd sky]

i think the trust gain is not significant to worry about as well

[slim tusk]

when they said better it's mostly about cost efficency

[turbid ocean]

See pins for newbie selector and squad building

It has the good cost efficient ops

[muted edge]

And this makes LMD farming much easier simply because I can make at least 15-20 more gold bars per day for the two trading post?

[eager mantle]

ops, good to know then

[odd sky]

uhh sure, you balance your gold production and your gold consumption

[turbid ocean]

It’s only ever 2 TP

[muted edge]

…..what I’m wondering why was a 2/4/3 worse even through you could max everything

[odd sky]

cuz dev can't do math

[compact veldt]

i was told that ill bench noir corne and lava once i get saria and ptilopsis so wondering if i can invest mats and exp on steward, fang will i be using them for a long time?

[slim tusk]

you have 1 less factory,surprise

[craggy stirrup]

you will be able to clear through most of early-mid story content with the 3 stars if you're smart enough, and you can save enough resources for your big boys
definitely invest, steward's passive is good, fang gets the job done

[odd sky]

you invest mats on steward anyway since he have good base skill
and fang too kinda

[compact veldt]

alright thanks guys

[brisk hornet]

is exu alter s2 or s3 better for general dps things

[marble solar]

2

[craggy stirrup]

S2 cause cyclability also survivability
S3 is more used for high-level strategies or smthn

[haughty holly]

In general mudrock uses s2 more than s3 right

[craggy stirrup]

from what i've seen yes

[muted edge]

Usually I hear that you don’t build for base, but proviso’s base skill is so broken that she’s the exception?

[craggy stirrup]

Yup.
you still need to build some operators to E1 for their base skills though, if you meant E2 for base then yeah proviso is An exception

[fiery canopy]

shamare and proviso

[muted edge]

I already built Shamare already

[odd sky]

yes, you generally don't e2 5* or 6* or base generally, cuz the ROI is so bad

[fallen depot]

Shamare at least can be used in battle

[craggy stirrup]

booga booga defense down doll

[fallen depot]

Atk debuffer

[haughty holly]

Ah right, I don't have enough blue cert for shamere but it's enough when it comes to Gold cert
I'm guessing its troll to spend yellow cert for sham?

[muted edge]

Guessing as soon as I have the LMD for it; E2 this fox I think before anyone else (maybe Roberta 1st since 4 star and all…)

[odd sky]

yea

[fallen depot]

Its a troll to buy shamare regardless

[haughty holly]

shucks

[muted edge]

I’m also guessing smash a trading post to Lv2 just for her and give her exclusive flamettia rights?

[slim tusk]

you can free selector her on january if you already have proviso

[fallen depot]

E2 a carry unit

[muted edge]

Me with like 20 of those

[main slate]

how important is this mat?

[fallen depot]

Then e2 whoever you wish

When your account is so built you can start e2 suboptimal niche units

[fallen depot]

Always craft on demand
It can be or not be important

[dire whale]

what are good 5* ranged

[fallen depot]

Krooster is decent. Rockrock is alright

[dire whale]

where can i get kroos2?

[fallen depot]

Invitation to wine welfare
The dragon siblings storyline

[dire whale]

i dont think i hsve that unlocked where may i find him

should i also e1 vulpis?

[fallen depot]

Search in the chapter list, whatever chinese dragon themed lookin storyline, find invitation to wine. Blue big sister girl

[odd sky]

the demand for t5 salt is rising so, pretty important

[dire whale]

alright

[fallen depot]

Vulpis is e2 material but you wanna e2 your dps carry first. She can be a backburner unit

[dire whale]

idk who can be considered dps here

[fallen depot]

Send your ops list

[fervent compass]

is the 6 star selector operator thingy worth copping? the one with logos

[main slate]

i plan on using it for s2m2 exu2 can i ask why its rising?

[steady shoal]

do I need to level up my units to use them in IS or is it like already leveled when I get them the guides I saw on yt are a bit old

[fallen depot]

Kal > thorns > mountain/vulpis
Thorns may be prioritized over kal since he really needs his s3. But overall kal is stronger.

I am not sure about sankta

[compact veldt]

if i spend $30 will i also be able to get exu the covenant?

[dire whale]

i see

[fathom nest]

She's not in the selector

[odd sky]

cuz upcoming ops is using 28 of them rn which is pretty high
it wasn't important some events ago

[compact veldt]

rhode island celebration pack

[fallen depot]

Need to level units for IS, but free ops from IS are already built. Free ops are rng

[shut robin]

What should be my priority pull rn?

[steady shoal]

are there any recommended units I level

[odd sky]

banner priority in pins

[fathom nest]

Having more pulls doesn't guarantee anything unless you're going to 300, so who knows

[shut robin]

oh mb

[fallen depot]

Exu the new hope is pretty strong. Tragodia is next with a great crowd control ability.

[compact veldt]

holly molly is it that hard?

[shut robin]

tragodia?

[fathom nest]

Only if you're incredibly unlucky

[shut robin]

Im tryna farm as much pulls as I can before exu cov goes off banner by clearing stages, but I also gotta juggle with the event grinding aswell

[fallen depot]

Just make a solid squad first. Recomended carries ranges from wisadel, exu2, ulpipi, and a few more niche picks depending on the IS

[regal dust]

Is Archetto worth 180 gold certs just for IS module?

[fathom nest]

No

[fallen depot]

Absolutely not

[compact veldt]

is there a calculator as to how many pulls we can grind between the time of banner beginning and the banner ending

[fathom nest]

You only have 2 days left

[shut robin]

the rush is real

[compact veldt]

hmmm what abt next banner

[fallen depot]

He is a elemental dps unit that can bait enemy to walk backwards with aoe range. Decent damage but unmatched crowd control. Reminds me of the succubus operator

[steady shoal]

Is this okay I straight up didn't know IS existed after playing for a bit

[fathom nest]

We don't officially know what or when it is yet

[regal dust]

I use the one in pin

[shut robin]

oh when does he come

[fallen depot]

Thing about IS is you cant reliably get your main team everytime. I would focus getting exu2, SA, and mon3tr using specialist, guard, and medic cards. Lemu should be a decent later addition. Ines as well. Else would be at your own discretion picks. Rng free ops will contribute in decision making

[fallen depot]

If we follow CN... in a few weeks

Yeah we are fucked ig?

[steady shoal]

Alright thanks so it's just kind of rng I guess?

[fallen depot]

Each run is RNG yes

[shut robin]

My wallet is gonna be empty brah, they sucking me dry 🙏

[steady shoal]

damn this kinda reminds me of mirror dungeons but not really

[fallen depot]

You can skip everything that came afterwards for the next 6 months so

[steady shoal]

theres no penalty for failing IS right? Am I just allowed to mess around as much as I want

[fallen depot]

Well the units are great, but none seems important compared to exu2 and trag

[compact veldt]

so from what i understand from this we can get a 6* from 42 pulls?

[fallen depot]

Nope. IS only drains your time and irl sanity

[steady shoal]

aight thanks

[fallen depot]

You can even just run and fail on floor 1 to 3 everytime to grind points

[indigo roost]

Do rolls on kernel banner carry over to the kernel locating ?

[scarlet finch]

btw would you guys consider exu alter, wisadel, and logos universal operator for all map?

[blissful granite]

Most maps

[copper oracle]

yes

[copper oracle]

yes

[fallen depot]

Exu2 suffer against stupid defense bosses. Logos suffer against stupid high res. Wisadel suffer from damage nullification

[fiery canopy]

fib should i e2 suzumom for more genslop

[copper oracle]

literally everyone suffers from dmg reduction, nothing burger ahh statement

[copper oracle]

idk abt u but i only build ops for IS or CC so no

[fiery canopy]

oh right mb

[fallen depot]

Amiya s3

[copper oracle]

try it on lone trail boss

[fallen depot]

Did it not work against kirsten? I dont remember she has dr

[copper oracle]

dmg reduction vs true and elem dmg as well

[copper oracle]

each ball on field is 35% dmg reduction, stackable multiplicatively

[fallen depot]

funny boss
Should be easy boss too since i dont remember what she does

[copper oracle]

ya it is ez boss

[royal barn]

Saga got added to recruitment?

[copper oracle]

the mobs are more problematic than the boss

[fallen depot]

Ye im more towards unemployed boss. Amiya kinda killed her

[fiery canopy]

can hoerderer replace degenbreacher on cheeto comp

[fathom nest]

Yes

[copper oracle]

no

[fiery canopy]

its myover

[copper oracle]

bro didnt pull degen for is4 smh

[fiery canopy]

i started a month ago

[scarlet finch]

wait you can use your own char for integrated strategies? I thought its completely random O_O

[runic cipher]

degen in is4 is good?

[fathom nest]

You can borrow at the beginning when choosing your starting ops but otherwise it's mainly your own

Can get temp recruits too which are 100% maxed ops

[sacred shadow]

Guys, not sure if this is alright, but will raidian become playable?

[fathom nest]

Yes

She's free from IS6

[scarlet finch]

btw is there any spending guide or smth, usualy in gacha people make the excel sheet which one worth most right

[sacred shadow]

Thank youuuuu 🫶

Wait is it in global rn or still somewhere along the future?

[fathom nest]

Future update

[runic cipher]

there is, but still monthly is the most valuable

[fiery canopy]

whats the consesus on raidian

[copper oracle]

yes shes mandatory for s*ntinel

[sacred shadow]

I see thank you! 🫶

[fathom nest]

Busted in IS6, okay outside of it

[copper oracle]

u use ur own units

[fallen depot]

She exist

[runic cipher]

why saying sentinel like that does it get censored?

[fiery canopy]

gotta censor slurs

[copper oracle]

it will cause ptsd on some other people

u can skip degen now tho since exu lemuem exist

[sacred shadow]

Wait is she available like in banner too (for pots) or is it specifically free her and her copy in IS6?

[fallen depot]

What makes sentinel hard