Damage Challenge

[warped gulch]

I missed quad

That B Move had 1 SMUN too so it’ll hit very hard

[slate magnet]

I picked the wrong final move to do lol, instead of Precious Make it Rain, I tried to use All Out Sunsteel Strike first lol

I got like double my original points at least

[vagrant ivy]

bumped my scores up again

[royal jolt]

Finally broke 2M

[vagrant ivy]

[toxic pine]

Got my 1m points

[crude sandal]

How did you only score 318k on your dark team?

[toxic pine]

I scored a million points, that's all that matters to me.

If you wanna know the order I did them in, it was Steel, Dark, and Psychic.

Other than that, I don't really care much.

Just looking to get one million points & dip.

[hollow whale]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-8326658640660030436

Me too lol

[vapid kernel]

Easy once Lillie syncs the 1st time and procs Catalyst

[fallen trail]

iii forgot she has that

i didn’t end up needing it tho

[normal parcel]

DPS spam for steel?

[vapid kernel]

most steel teams work with DPS spam unless you dont have any DPS unit

[plush palm]

sc selene can get 1.4m off sync spam

[normal parcel]

Tried DPS spam but didn't got much

Lillie should spam su steel strike or alternate with b move?

Poppy should twave?

Steven should spam iron head only?

[vapid kernel]

Poppy just bonk and twave i think

[vapid kernel]

Definitely alternate, need aoe

[safe prawn]

You need to alternate also bc b move is not that much of a difference in terms of time spent

With normal

[normal parcel]

How many syncs, can't get more than 3

[desert dawn]

Is there any unit that can status spam with either one gauge used or a skill to increase gauge like Colress/BP Barry/NC Rosa that can also raise an ally's attack?

ideally with para?

[safe prawn]

Aaron

[desert dawn]

i know Elio can sing and do +4 attack but I was curious if there was anyone who can do something similar for para

[safe prawn]

No para but still

[desert dawn]

gotcha

he just spams with defend order?

never used him before

[safe prawn]

Yes it’s both him and ssgio

[desert dawn]

perfect ty

[vapid kernel]

3 syncs

[vapid kernel]

3 is good though isnt it

[vapid kernel]

Elio is the best

[feral hamlet]

Gonna work on Super Sparring while I'm on this flight. So for vs Gladion, I think the only relevant unit I have is 3/5 Olympia. Unless 3/5 SS Lana fares better. I have 1/5 Lear, but he does not do any damage at that move level

[cobalt jetty]

a few minor optimizations, more than likely my plateau at my current skill level and investment

[upper radish]

I think byron died from sepsis

dealt with too many rusty steel types

[fallen trail]

interesting channel to put that in

[pallid girder]

Aaron can buff atk but it also come with gradual healing so he's not a good atk buffing spammer.

[feral hamlet]

Good enough, right?

[icy pendant]

it's all key rewards but that steel fight especially seems like it has plenty of room for improvement

[feral hamlet]

Right, as someone else had a 1M lead with the same team

Maybe the 3/5 difference?

[cobalt jetty]

lear is missing a lot of stuff at 2/5

[icy pendant]

lear gets good help at 3/5 but once you learn the rotation I imagine just his b moves get you over 1.5, then throw syncs on top of that

[vapid kernel]

Depends if u wanna go higher

That Olympia team peaks at 1.8M assuming no skill gears

[feral hamlet]

3/5 though?

[vapid kernel]

Still the difference cant be more than double yohr score

Idk how to fix that Serena team but she shudnt be sub 1M

[feral hamlet]

It was hard to figure out the timing. I think she gets two syncs out and I didn't know how to get two B moves out in time

[sacred badger]

gloria bc?

[vagrant ivy]

you could generalize it as DPS but it's actually a bit more complicated than that

but basically i fish for turn 1 play rough miss

then i sunsteel strike to unlock b move and spam iron heads

poppy will hammer once before second sync and once after

to make the most out of iron head pmun stacks

[crude sandal]

Where's the thing for the feather exploit again?

[cloud timber]

search feather trick

[vast glade]

Search where? Now I am curious too. Tried search bar and it had no results. Maybe I looked at the wrong place?

[spiral halo]

Here have a screenshot

[vast glade]

Thanks!

[brazen escarp]

my only hope to get a decent score is to get aaron from sinnoh ticket scout

[quaint timber]

so close to 10m yet so far awaaaay

(no gio no dexio and only 1/5 jacq so sadness)

[sly gorge]

silly question but what're good enhancers for bea, is sc steven one of em?

i think im gonna use sc steven + bp barry and bea for the triple fighting challenge bc my rei is neither ex nor caked, but even though sc steven is a big help for enhancing phys damage i'm still not the biggest fan of how bea doesnt complete her buffs without mpr...

[vernal condor]

SC Steven goes well with Bea yes

That's a nice score

[cursive linden]

I have shit gears

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/xn0CchElSOw?si=DoxCRV9TVwqN9Wyl

maybe you can try this

[cursive linden]

7M

[plush palm]

i think dc blue might be bettsr than ss bren weirdly enough

[cursive linden]

Why?

I already have a spammer

[plush palm]

spdef debuffs w/o the annoying react pssive

[lone pond]

ok why does everyone else's annimays and cerenas doing millions more damage

[vagrant ivy]

we r built different

[plush palm]

probably an issue w/ your comp?

i got 2m on serena

[lone pond]

maybe its something with the grids

what are your annimay and cerena grids?

[plush palm]

only used 1 bmove

[lone pond]

how did you get the power play to trigger again

also what about annimay

[plush palm]

3x water > 1x dark > bmove

used jacq

Havent tested annimay

[lone pond]

oh shit wait

i was asking the other guy using the annimay

because i swear her syncs do jackshit damage

[plush palm]

mega = dmg cut to sync

Check the base power on her sync

thats why

[lone pond]

yet people are still getting 1m with her even though they have the same investments
i'm thinking it's something about their units

[plush palm]

Idk what comp youre using

I did elio / exr cserena / exr redlax

for dark

[lone pond]

mine was holillie cerena and i think another paralysis support

[plush palm]

might drop one sync node for mpr to max atk if no elio

yes for some reason her tm gives her +2 atk

its dumb

[pseudo stag]

Which of the DC units are actually useful for DC??

[vagrant ivy]

Dc cheren

[vernal condor]

they can all be to some extent

[plush palm]

dc blue is decent on chase comps

also good for -spdef mults

dc gladion is ok on ice

i think wally has soem really niche use?

[lone pond]

wally is good moral support

[cursive linden]

I can 3 syncs with May, but it has 16-17 seconds left, and even though i don't have Adrenaline/HS1 on DC Blue, i don't think i can do the 4th one

[pseudo stag]

What da cheren do

[long silo]

Do you have SS Brendan

[cursive linden]

I do

[cursive linden]

.

[long silo]

Hmmm

Are you syncing with Rosa

From the May vids I've previously seen, people do not sync with her

[cursive linden]

Then what about-

Wait

I FORGOT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE B MOVE FOR HER REBUFF

[long silo]

[cursive linden]

OH MY GOD

[warped gulch]

I think Steel team can improve a lot

Like a lot

[cursive linden]

I'M AN ABSOLUTE BUFFOON

[cursive linden]

See, i don't have Adrenaline on Anni '24 Lillie

[vernal condor]

sing applies too so it's fine

[warped gulch]

You dont need it

[vernal condor]

unless you sung on a different opponent than you sync'd on

[cursive linden]

I'll redo Steel after Psychic

[long silo]

I should start on this tomorrow

[cursive linden]

Tomorrow we gonna cope for datamein

[warped gulch]

I still haven’t done normal DC yet

[cursive linden]

So start grinding Ranked DC now

[long silo]

Datanein

[long silo]

Meanwhile I'm grinding too much normal DC

[warped gulch]

I’m just lazy

I didn’t do CS last week

and must speed run Rally by just doing normal difficult

[long silo]

Lazy moment

[warped gulch]

I have too much stuffs namely music, art and toy

[cursive linden]

[vernal condor]

there's no such thing as normal dc sadly

[cursive linden]

What the fuck

[long silo]

Try with Brendan

[cursive linden]

Aight

But my SS Brendan is 4/5, not 5/5

So i can't do both -Sp. Atk AND Sp. Def

[long silo]

RIP

Still, Support EX

[cursive linden]

And doing Mist Ball on SS May may make it longer

[long silo]

Oh wait what are you using for her multiplier then

If paired with DC Blue

[long silo]

Pls I need to see Palmer and Larry wreck their respective DCs

[cursive linden]

Both Smarty Pants and Devastation

[long silo]

Oh okay

[vernal condor]

wdym respective
palmer wrecks both

the crush grip spam goes hard

[long silo]

Oh true

[cursive linden]

Where gauge?

[vernal condor]

allies are made for that

[warped gulch]

Gauge? Nah that isn’t a problem with Larry

[long silo]

[brazen dew]

How much higher can this get? I used infliction freebie, 2 b moves from rei, sync order was gio -> bianca -> rei -> rei

[crude sandal]

Why aren't you using Colress?

[plush palm]

i think colress > gio

[crude sandal]

Also, no Infliction Freebie

Infliction Freebie is slow

[cursive linden]

The run requires another potion and since my Arc Steven is only 4/5, i have to rely on MPR

AND I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE FUCKING MPR

[copper otter]

MPR doesn't work if you don't heal.

No heal, it counts as unsuccessful

[cursive linden]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-patrick-christmas-gif-13143185

I have a massive amount of negative thoughts rn

[warped gulch]

You can reset for Play Rough miss at the beginning

So you can do different rotation to save Pots

[lone pond]

bruh

i just did a run for the dark super sparring stage

all the stars aligned with all my needed status attacks occurring on the first hit

BUT THEN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SNC FROM CERENA DIDN'T CRIT

[cursive linden]

Yeah fuck that shit

I am content with my recent Steel score

[crude sandal]

Gloria should've gotten her tech EXR long time ago

[cursive linden]

You don't use soften up 1?

[plush palm]

not enough energy

dark sync grid is awkward asf

[lone pond]

Good enough

[long silo]

1. Do you reset for Rei's TM MPR?
2. Do you have NC Rosa?

[brazen dew]

Only 2/5 still

[brazen dew]

1. Yes, one mpr
2. No

[long silo]

Hmmm. I guess this is the best it can be?

[normal parcel]

Then I'm doing something wrong because I can't score more than with sync spam

[nocturne cove]

Bianca "ally move damage reduction" apply to all kind of moves? What is not reduced?
Sync, Max, Buddy?

[icy pendant]

All P-moves have their damage reduced, so only syncs hit for full damage

[nocturne cove]

Hmm

[icy pendant]

It is just a forced stage for the optimal DC strat anyways

[crude sandal]

Pokemon moves and/or B-Moves

[nocturne cove]

I got 800k something with BestWaifu

[old valve]

ough

Resetting for X Atk MPR and at least two paras took way longer than it should've lol

[royal jolt]

no Riley, hm?

[plush palm]

ruley kinda needs exr

[royal jolt]

Ok
That's on me for assuming, lol

[plush palm]

he hits 2m w/ exr on a bianca comp so

idk how hard he hits w/o cake

[icy pendant]

“No Riley?” really has no one interpretation:

no Riley at all (missed both events)
no 20/20 Riley, plenty of spirits (missed initial run)
20/20 Riley, but no spirits (I think this is only me at this point)
no strike cake for Riley (most plausible)

[plush palm]

how do you have no spirits wow

im sitting ok 2k

[icy pendant]

bestie I have 37 20/20s just waiting for them

this is what happens when you are only missing 4 5 stars

[plush palm]

Im still waiting on 5* PU holy shit

[safe prawn]

Me always lacking spirits

[old valve]

I have Riley he just ain't EXR'd yeah

[vapid kernel]

Riley exr is nice for rally 👍🏼

[lapis yarrow]

Anyone have good team comps for the super sparring that are semi ftp?

[vapid kernel]

Olympia, Bianca, Bp Barry
MC Solgaleo, Anni Lillie 24, Hilbert
Sidney, Sonia, Melony

[lapis yarrow]

What is a good dark and psychic team comp? My steel is good enough just trying for 1 mil pts have 900k so far

[icy pendant]

Olympia + spammer should have no problem hitting 100k

[royal jolt]

I mean
If you just want the minimum rewards, I have a full-F2P guide

The overall score is 1.5M

[plush palm]

olympia should be hittin 1m

[royal jolt]

I could try and comp with Dana and Barry?
I just broke it down amongst the three stages

[long silo]

8m is definitely possible, but RNG is tight. Lol

[royal jolt]

Do it

[long silo]

Bestie the amount of RNG just to get here is rough I could definitely had it maybe if I used Teeter Dance before Bianca Sync but also I kind of low rolled this run

[royal jolt]

To achieve greatness, you must part with what you once knew as your sanity

[long silo]

Maybe tomorrow while I go to work. But uploading this run now for everyone to see and replicate

[royal jolt]

I can't wait to replicate it! :D

[long silo]

So true!

[icy pendant]

homie is crushing it out here with 10/5 Rei

[long silo]

It is my duty

[royal jolt]

How does Korrina fare in triple fighting?

I don't see her on the doc and I do not have the resources to invest T~T

-# Also Marshal?

[icy pendant]

good luck finding someone who invested in EX Marshal

[safe prawn]

That’s amazing congrats btw

[long silo]

[safe prawn]

Still don’t know if I wanna awaken rei, cla cell or Larry as sprint

But this is tempting

[lapis yarrow]

Can you DM me a link to it please?

[vernal condor]

bro thinks a story mega strike can perform in DC

also skippingmud did a f2p clear of this super sparring

[royal jolt]

my criteria for asking is very low
I just see strike EX and think "Hm..."

[royal jolt]

will do

[long silo]

https://youtu.be/Ul3gCWelwxY

@true locust I no longer tried the triple MPR strat with NC Blue + HoLillie. I don't think they can help reach this level

[royal jolt]

[vapid kernel]

Well well

Wait your skil gear is Interference based?

[long silo]

Yep, since I apply Teeter Dance

[vapid kernel]

Oh thats 10/5

[long silo]

Also yes

[safe prawn]

Do you think you have space for another tm before last bmove?

[long silo]

The only way that could happen is if I instaqueue the said TM right before Tierno's sync, but the leeway I got for that last 10 sec was painful to get, to begin with

[safe prawn]

I’m more worried about the fighting zone timing tbh

[long silo]

So technically yet but the run needs to be even more precise than before

And yes actually the zone timing is tight. I was kind of sweating when that EQ pushed through LMAO

If I did not dodge the flamethrower and Night Slash it would definitely expire

But ye technically it is possible, but it would approach near perfect run

Basically, Rei first Sync while Tierno is one move away from Sync > do not let Tierno move until right before your sync > do second Rei Sync and instaqueue TM > queue B Move

Goodluck getting there tho

With that said, 9m is actually possible

[safe prawn]

Well not my problem, still thinking about ranked, but this could come in handy for future ranked

[long silo]

Speaking of ranked I can finally start

With that said you did give me an idea too

I will make sure to

[copper otter]

Genuine question: Does atticus have any use in Poison DC? Or would his damage field be too much considering you need to poison anyways?

[vernal condor]

he definitely has potential

[safe prawn]

I see potential in 3v3

[true locust]

Nice idea base rei can do this team good score too

I have gears for fight moves damage 12%

So his b move super up next physical up hit like tank

[quaint timber]

10m achieved yaaay i hope it's enough for top 100 (it probably isn't lmao)

[vernal condor]

im soo lazy to tryhard it 💀

it's not fun stages

[quaint timber]

i'd be the same if there was literally nothing going on for the past two weeks

[vernal condor]

lol real

Except I had 10/5 Palmer happen recently so I'm fine

[quaint timber]

dc meta is shook

[fallen trail]

lg starts the second super sparring ends be ready

[royal jolt]

I've been needing my HS1 and SP3 cookies for a while now

[safe prawn]

I need also mind games 2

[long silo]

Pls I also need cookies

[dense scarab]

Yeah we need LG... pls

[copper otter]

Hold on.... HOLD ON.....

We need LG. That isn't Moltres, Tornadus or Cresselia

[royal jolt]

Give us an easy one because absolutely no one has cookies

I'm talking Latios, Latios, and Latios

[vernal condor]

hey, if it's moltres tornadus and cresselia, it's not moltres tornadus or cresselia

[royal jolt]

Neat

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[plush palm]

2m is also possible w/ bianca comps btw

[dry whale]

I worked on Steel today. Still have not got that mp refresh. This score I just got is acceptable and the run is pretty consistent so it can wait.

Current status

Psychic: is one entire nuke off, estimated score high 2.5 to mid 2.6.

Steel: happy with for now.

Dark: Complete

[coarse veldt]

Who can work for the next dc?

[plush palm]

ex ss misty

she is your only real option unfortunately

[coarse veldt]

okay thank you

[plush palm]

good 3v1 options tend to be much more limited limited than 3v3 ones

[coarse veldt]

i see

i thought cyrus would work

[plush palm]

better off trying to nuke w/ ss misty

this isnt really the dps game mode unfortunately

gotta have a REALLY good dps to be worth using like poppy or rose

and cyrus just aint it

do you have chase

or nc blue

[coarse veldt]

i have nc blue

[plush palm]

most awkward part of using her is the evasion buffs so gl

[coarse veldt]

okay thank u

[plush palm]

this is meant for endgame players

you arent one so dont stress about hitting 1m rn

dont bother comparing your score to people w/ the resources to do it consistently

[grand oracle]

Water gun rng

[plush palm]

what do you mean you dont like 50% coin flips?

[coarse veldt]

okok

[lament sentinel]

what are you supposed to do with the dark super sparring challenge? How are they going to have a damage challenge where your damage is nerfed by 80%. Who thought that was a fun idea?

[icy pendant]

Two words: sync rushing

It only impacts damage from Pokemon moves, not sync moves

[fallen trail]

what dark pairs do you have? (including c serena if you have her)

[plush palm]

believe me move dmg nerf is WAY better than sync dmg nerf

on a proper sync rushing comp youre barely losing any dmg to it

[cloud timber]

check pins and scroll down for an explanation on sync rushing, the one that mentions barry and melony

[lament sentinel]

This is all im working with. I dont have a lot of good dark pairs

[fallen trail]

masked royal gets power posture at 2/5 at least

bring someone to buff him and someone to spam

i don't see you getting much more than like 200k though

[vagrant ivy]

can we get a skull emoji in the chat

he is NOT hitting 1m

[plush palm]

no bea and riley ?

bea is way better

[warped gulch]

Tbh he need SC Steven

Physical-Cakewalk

Yeah

[vagrant ivy]

lmao

[vagrant ivy]

already did my real run with Riley I’m just memeing

maybe one of the several Wally fans in here can try for more

[plush palm]

lol

[restive galleon]

Scdiantha or bea?

[hard sleet]

Riley

You could run both tho lel

[plush palm]

riley if exr ofc

[restive galleon]

So Riley with colress screech spam?

[plush palm]

ive made sc diantha work but the comp used bianca and it was kinda weird

yes

weirdly enough the best spammer on a sc diantha comp might be aaron

bc her mults are weird asf

she uses def debuffs instead of spdef

[plush palm]

ssa is not worth using w/ riley

[restive galleon]

What else then?

[plush palm]

get your boy some speed buffs

cynthi aint doing shit for that innate

[restive galleon]

Better?

[restive galleon]

So is the strat screech spam,tm setup,spam Riley sync after hilbert,use max move before last sync?

[queen moth]

Do we discuss super sparring event here?

[icy pendant]

yep!

[plush palm]

much better

not sure what you mean by screech spam

no need to use it after dropping def

[sacred badger]

OH, Water Single is ready? 😮

[queen moth]

What's a good dark team comp for the challenge with Akari? I think she's my best dark damage dealer

[sacred badger]

aoe dark team?

or single?

[crude sandal]

Damn, Bicio got 16M

How much did it take to superawaken Dexio?

[restive galleon]

Good?

[crude sandal]

Is Riley EXR-ed?

[unborn otter]

Only got 1 tm mpr and have fighting gear and cs2

[quaint timber]

best i could do

[queen moth]

Single. I feel like I should get way better numbers than this

[sacred badger]

what was the minimum, 2m or something? o.o

for all the rewards

[long silo]

1m

[queen moth]

Idk, I've hit that minimum though, I just want more

[sacred badger]

oh you just want to push

what's your team for that fight though?

[queen moth]

I feel like especially psychic I should be able to hit 1m alone. I had ss Steven/NC Rosa/I forget who

Dark was redlax/super awaken Akari/colress

Colress mostly just spammed screech

Twave, sorry

[long silo]

Oh you have 10/5 Akari?

[sacred badger]

whoa, 10/5 Akari? :O?!

[queen moth]

8/5

[long silo]

Do you have SC Steven

[queen moth]

Stoutland? At 1/5

[long silo]

Hmmm.

https://youtu.be/ZGckgaD7yGY?si=ZXQZubOdS795uZIR

My SC Steven is 3/5, but I was able reach 1m using him with Akari

[sacred badger]

Honestly i think the best team for her would be SS Gio Alt (to top up her ATK and Dark Zone), and someone like SC Steven i suppose.

[long silo]

Tho I needed some SEUN MPR

[queen moth]

I don't have Gio orz

[sacred badger]

rip.

[long silo]

You can probably get close

[sacred badger]

your damage wityh Haymaker is going to be tough :<

[long silo]

Also why is my vid not embedding

[sacred badger]

it did?

[queen moth]

Okay here were my teams

[long silo]

It did appear very briefly tho

[queen moth]

Maybe instead of Stoutland I can use redlax? If only to just knuckle and get the atk up to 6

[long silo]

I also have Steven give Akari PMUN

So her last move is at like +8

[queen moth]

Is that possible without investing?

[long silo]

Yes. You'll be limited to +6

[queen moth]

How did you get Akari to +6 atk?

Her grid?

[long silo]

Yes. +10 Energy but this should cover everything she needs for sync nuke

Well except one sync node

[true locust]

Not need at all

Just use lax g max fight

Raise 2 attack

[restive galleon]

Yes

[crude sandal]

Is it ninja froge or spy lizard time?

[true locust]

A water time🤣

[long silo]

Kappa time

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-dancing-pokemon-ludicolo-gif-8176036

[queen moth]

Thank you. Can I also ask for your comps for steel and psychic?

[hard sleet]

That cannot be real

[long silo]

Oh I haven't started I only replied because I did an Akari clear on regular DC once, but on Sparring I'll use Archer

[cursive linden]

Damn

[sacred badger]

I'm gonna be doing NC Serena, Chase and SS Gio Alt :>

[cursive linden]

WHY SSGA

[sacred badger]

max stats :D~

and +10 SyMUN

[cloud timber]

low score

[sacred badger]

D:

[crude sandal]

Not bad

I only had -1 rebuff

@royal jolt Number 1 eh?

[royal jolt]

IM SO SKIL

YEAH BABY

[vagrant ivy]

enjoy it while it lasts

[royal jolt]

SHHHHH

[crude sandal]

That's obvious

[vagrant ivy]

nah dw i won't be the one who takes 1st from you anyway

unless i materialize a 10/5 EXR SA +10E dahlia out of thin air

[royal jolt]

You've no idea how badly I need this one thing, SMH my head

[crude sandal]

What team?

[royal jolt]

Just replace Chase with Archie

[crude sandal]

Ah rain

[royal jolt]

There's a slight problem with it, however
It doesn't last for the final sync

[crude sandal]

I managed to get 5 syncs with good RNG

[royal jolt]

I feel like i can get 3M
The thing is Archeops never missed a move

[crude sandal]

You do realize you're not even using a proper unit with evasion and instead relying on accuracy down?

@royal jolt Adam got you

[royal jolt]

Yes

[royal jolt]

Can't have shit in Detroit 😓

[lusty galleon]

wonder how high can fully awakaned Dojo Gloria can get

[crude sandal]

She's as high as Cerena

[lusty galleon]

she could be higher by a bit I suppose?

[crude sandal]

What's the team?

[lusty galleon]

just doing numbers by themselves, haven't thought of a team

not like anyone has Gloria maxed out willing to try tho lol

[crude sandal]

If we're doing Archie/H. Lillie, then Cerena still wins

[lusty galleon]

even more when Dahlia is there

[crude sandal]

Actually Cerena wins no matter what

[lusty galleon]

if they are different teams, sure, if the same for both... it'd be Gloria's imo

[warped gulch]

The problem is we dont have Physical Chase

Without Chase Dahlia spam kinda ….. eh just say the gauge’ll be garbage

[crude sandal]

And I'm calculating this with 3/5 Cerena while Gloria is superawakened

[lusty galleon]

same teams

Archie/Lillie?

[crude sandal]

Yes

[hard sleet]

So

[crude sandal]

I wonder what team Adam used

[lusty galleon]

there

-1 Rebuff for Gloria, -2 for Cerena

unless I'm missing something

[crude sandal]

Where's the -1 rebuff for Gloria coming from?

[lusty galleon]

max move?

[crude sandal]

Ah, her superawakening

[lusty galleon]

you said it here lol

[cloud timber]

suspecting top team will be dahlia again

[lusty galleon]

yeah, I believe Dahlia should dominate this anyway lol

[crude sandal]

Gloria is better at superawakening, but the difference between 3/5 Cerena and superawakened Gloria is not that far and Cerena can get 1 more sync in thanks to Chase

[lusty galleon]

and that's why I asked

if they are using the same teams, sure lol

if not, there's always Chase there for a better team in Serena's case

[crude sandal]

Wait I'm confusing myself fuck

But if you're willing to go that far, then you can just rely on accuracy drops for evading attacks to maybe get 1 more sync in

[lusty galleon]

you can say the same with Paralysis

MAX CD, Gloria having a reliable speed debuff with Tripping Strike, HS1/Adrenaline in grid if you want to pick them...

and not a long animation from B Move

[crude sandal]

How will you buff Gloria's crit?

[lusty galleon]

is somewhat "balanced" haha...

[lusty galleon]

uh....

all her water moves always crit

[crude sandal]

Oh it is

Hmmm, I don't really use her and I'm not familiar with her on PoMaTools so yeah

[lusty galleon]

well, it happens lol

that's why I was questioning how far she could get

[crude sandal]

Not sure if accuracy drop from Cerena is less or more RNG

[lusty galleon]

Gloria's main "things" is that she can lower all what she would need in 2 moves lol

the slow thing only helps for the enemy to not queue as much (along the paralysis)

[crude sandal]

Well TBF, Gloria has higher stats than Cerena

532 for Cerena vs. 553 for Gloira

[lusty galleon]

and that's still before SA

[crude sandal]

Yeah

[sacred badger]

patiently waiting for NC Serena's 4/5 and 5/5 grid then xd

[lusty galleon]

wonder what they'll give to her

it'll be a universal tile for both modes?

one for each?

healing? raising stats at random?

[sacred badger]

her 5/5 Grid would give her +1 SMUN and +1PMUN each hit she does.

/me grins

[lusty galleon]

is hard to guess haha

[sacred badger]

+1 SyMUN too.

[lusty galleon]

it could be anything

[crude sandal]

When will they give someone Expanded Sync

[sacred badger]

honestly at 4/5 she'd want Super Powered 5 or something lol

[lusty galleon]

depends on the game mode*, sure lol

[sacred badger]

or Speed Power 9

[crude sandal]

?

[lusty galleon]

is speed is increased, power up by 9

[sacred badger]

ye

for sync and normal damage

[crude sandal]

Next up is poison 3v3, is it still SS Roxie/Oleana?

[sacred badger]

but yeah, if Gloria is beating her close, i think NC Serena would want a damage upgrade for her 4/5 and 5/5

anyways

time to test my teams for NC Serena ❤️

[pallid girder]

After what anni N got, it's hard to believe good tiles tbh.

Need to wait & see what the next past mf gets next datamine.

[true locust]

Super gloria is better then serena

[crude sandal]

Hate to admit it but Yeah

[pallid girder]

What about super Dahila?

[true locust]

Dahlia is same like arc leon good aoe

But not best for singel

Dojo have sup

And no need stupid confusion

And fish for super up next

So get one more sync

[crude sandal]

How many syncs can Gloria get anyways?

[true locust]

Same like serena 5

Or can be 6 too

[crude sandal]

What was your team?

[true locust]

Depend who you use

My is serena lol🤣

But jp use gloria and score more

So its simple

And they dont have my skill gears

So dojo should have 5-6m

Whit good gears

[crude sandal]

First sync with SEUN and confusion

[true locust]

Yes but you score 4 sync

[crude sandal]

What was your team with Gloria?

[true locust]

I have just 5/5 gloria🤣

I would use bianca dojo and corless

[crude sandal]

Gloria does like 360k+ first sync

With BiaNCa and Colress

[true locust]

Then maybe bianca and dahlia

2 rebuff and rain?

Or nc blue dojo and h lillie hard tell i never use dojo in dc

Since hard part is good support for physical unit

[cloud timber]

bianca/colress and bianca/dahlia were the teams i had in mind too

[hybrid lagoon]

Best f2p option for water ST?

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS8zdcBHYw

[pallid girder]

If you have Chase, SS Misty might be easy 1M

[cloud timber]

yea chase fits ss misty perfectly and gets her there

[crude sandal]

The number 1 team right is probably using superawakened Dahlia

[true locust]

Did you check jp profile?🤣

[crude sandal]

No

[true locust]

Answer if you check you now

[crude sandal]

But she just deals so much damage with Chase and Lillie that she hits the damage cap by the 5th sync

At least according to my calcs

[true locust]

She never get 5 sync if fish for super up next each sync and confusion

[sacred badger]

Wew.i knew her damage was tracked. I didnt even have cs2

Lets try this again

[true locust]

I test dahlia 4 sync super and confusion you can max get if lucky whit rng

[sacred badger]

Hrm i think ill do chase and then nc serena sync

[crude sandal]

I managed 5 syncs with only -1 rebuff

[sacred badger]

ah you didnt do a 2nd rebuff. i see.

[lusty galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215828903138955374/1333701462316027935/Screenshot_2025-01-28-02-33-04-420_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=6799d9c7&is=67988847&hm=9297aa2e796e8ca613a7da5c64d495121b7ff20f5372ec6e6c1eec3826de4b66&

EX R Lillie, EX Gloria and Archie

[lusty galleon]

Acuity

[vapid kernel]

Oh

Tues alrdy

[cursive linden]

2.5M

[vapid kernel]

A bit low

[sacred badger]

yeah

she didnt have CS2

i tihnk

oh wait that was my CS2 run

[true locust]

I did 5 sync whit 2 rebuff serena

Nothing hard

Chase lillie is make up for it if exr

[crude sandal]

How exactly does the 3rd part work? I was able to successfully do the 4th part, but not the 3rd one somehow

[cloud timber]

haven't successfully rolled anything good yet so dunno

i'm not the one who wrote the original message

[vast glade]

Maybe there is room for improvement. Still have to try the NC Serena team

In this run I only used Muddy Water in the end

[copper otter]

You know? Vbede ain't half bad.

[copper otter]

You know what..... i'mma do a power play. I'm NOT going to EXR UB gio.... not yet.... i'm going to wait till Elec/Ground HSE

I'm still top 500 anyways

[warped gulch]

Oh right, i should check my top

[copper otter]

Top is 16 mil

[warped gulch]

I dont care about Super Sparring that much tbh

[timid tree]

so close….. if only i had more purple cookies….

[warped gulch]

How ?

[safe prawn]

How what

[warped gulch]

How am i still in top 20 ?

[safe prawn]

Not so many ppl tryharding this time, or not still tryharding imo

Could it be bc of Chinese new year or new release on pocket idk

[crude sandal]

Maybe not many people have superawakened Dexio

[warped gulch]

Japan doesn’t have Lunar New Years so idk tbh

Nah

How many people have Dexio ?

[copper otter]

It is weird that they're making this week practically nonexistant

[safe prawn]

Also but jacq can score 4.7

It’s not that far

[copper otter]

1/5 here

[warped gulch]

SA ?

[safe prawn]

Yes

[warped gulch]

Make sense

Mine is 5/5 and score 2.6m with no gears

[safe prawn]

I mean my dexio clear is not that diff from the jacq one

Also Jacq has less RNG bc you tank with him that gets to +6 Eva

[timid tree]

i give up. i need to get one more move in which i could prob do if i had hs1 or adr1 on lillie but no purple cookies

[warped gulch]

No LG moment

[crude sandal]

Imagine having LG

[cursive linden]

Still above 500

Now let's see my current normal dc ranking

[cloud timber]

oh that name seemed sorta familiar but didn't know from where exactly

[true locust]

You don’t drink coffee invert . This name i think all know😆

[cloud timber]

tru

[scenic grotto]

No Cake needed for NC Serena

[warped gulch]

Should i try for 1m ?

[long silo]

Oh shit the return of Gyarablast (???????)

I forgot the name but for some reason that stick to mind

Also yes go for 1m

[warped gulch]

Hoơ do you remember that name ? That just a random name i gave it

[long silo]

I was hesitant if I remember it as "Gyarablast" or "Gyarabeam" but the latter sounds wrong to me so I went with former

[cursive linden]

I should try Gyarablast

[vagrant ivy]

this is what made me replicate the strategy later on with ny lance and event blue lmao

it didn't end too well for me tho

[warped gulch]

[spiral fog]

I remembered seeing V Bede score more than 3m in the super sparring, or is it false memory?

[safe prawn]

It’s true

From the super sparring

[warped gulch]

[cursive linden]

1M

[plush palm]

good enough?

unless theres a even more rng heavy version where she uses both b moves

and probably dodges every hit

[cursive linden]

Dahlia has HS1 and she doesn't get any gear boost

[warped gulch]

Not impressive enough

Mine dealed 1m by himself

[icy pendant]

first 1m eggmon?

[plush palm]

unfortunately perrserker has to deal w/ recoil

[cursive linden]

How do you do Hyper Beam spam anyway?

[plush palm]

like the kitty is probably the only one who could even come close to gyaras dps

but it will kill itself in 20ish moves

[scenic grotto]

That’s nothing, I got that score with zero units

[warped gulch]

Uh just spam HyperBeam ?

[plush palm]

any gauge issues or nah

[warped gulch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PFsmS0fAoYs?si=KqBSxlxOkgNdKXOq

[cursive linden]

After 2nd or 1st sync?

[plush palm]

oh i forgot about chase

no wonder

[warped gulch]

I have 4/5 Dahlia which help a lot tho

[cloud timber]

could set chase to tank for health

[plush palm]

but chase uses time

so pick your poison i guess

[warped gulch]

Even if it had no recoil, still much lower bc recoil lose time too

[cloud timber]

losing time is better than dying i would think

[plush palm]

yeah the kitty really isnt made for dc

unfortunately

i really wish i had a excuse to use mine

[cloud timber]

while actively looking for an excuse to not use yours lol

you still can

[plush palm]

only after i ex poppy

and finish my serious clear

then its time to bring out the catnip

[cursive linden]

[safe prawn]

My Serena isn’t serening

Now that I have good gears I’m not getting any para or miss for the fifth sync, rip

[plush palm]

how are you getting 5 syncs in

only getting 4 w/ like 10 secs left

having no luck there either

gl

[safe prawn]

Consider a couple of miss and a para

But you need acc drops from water shuriken

And ofc chase eva buffs

[plush palm]

oh its a chase comp

im using archie

whats your best so far

[safe prawn]

I did 3.3 in ranked last time

But this time I have better gears

Might be better might be def worst

[plush palm]

holy shit

[safe prawn]

That’s why I want the last sync

Gonna give it a better try after work in this dead week in game

[plush palm]

3/5 chase required?

[vagrant ivy]

how many feathers did you spend jeez

[crude sandal]

Gawd dayum

[safe prawn]

It took me a lot of time for the first 2, the 3rd came casually

The champion skill is pinned

[vagrant ivy]

i only have one ever pin left

[plush palm]

i should really start pinning MC and champion

[vagrant ivy]

and i'm pinning the opp paralyzed: sync 5% instead of an actual theme skill

it's a red pill blue pill situation with these pins

red pill: EX any unit
blue pill: exchange for an ever pin

unfortunately i don't have the powerups to be bluepilled

[plush palm]

gonna wait and see if lg come back in tomorrows datamine

[crude sandal]

My only good skill gear is ice skill gear

Not as good as other people, but it has a balance of stats and multipliers

[plush palm]

ranked was before lillie iirc?

[true locust]

Yeap befor lillie

[crude sandal]

How does it look?

[true locust]

Braclet is bad

Bandana is ok pin is decent

You on braclet have for red zero boost

[crude sandal]

Bracelet has s-move boost when statused

And you're running Chase on the team with him

[true locust]

Lol

Its you need have status🤣

Not them

[crude sandal]

Oh wait

[true locust]

Only opp is for them

Status is for you

[crude sandal]

Ok then

[vapid kernel]

New Lyra record

With more dodge i can even make the last sync se up

Just short of 2 seconds

[vapid kernel]

Damn how many everpins is that

[true locust]

Bicio sold soul for this gear🤣

[plush palm]

if i had another 60k orbs i could run soften up AND mpr rip

having no orbs hurts

[royal jolt]

:D

[crude sandal]

I found a semi-ideal bracelet for Rei

Also for C. Hop too

[safe prawn]

Gotta work on this

[vagrant ivy]

for those interested

[dry whale]

Next up , I'm gonna do the Archie version. Tried earlier but he is refusing to para when I finally get the MP refresh.

https://youtu.be/CSYcrJ-jKEs?si=JA2F5NpKA6I5Akmw

[plush palm]

feels like id have to have +6 for soften up to try smth like that

[fallen trail]

for archie i stuck with melony so she can buff serena’s sp atk

fishing for 30% para and 30% mpr just so i can use lillie seems… bleh

would chase/lillie be better than that?

[dry whale]

My old record was 3.2 with Archie , Melony , NC Serena.

With the Chase team I hit 3.4, I'm assuming the Archie team will peak higher. Unless I run into damage cap problems.

Edit: did some preliminary runs, I was one sing off. The Archie team peaks waaay higher.

[dry whale]

Was curious about this one for water. First nuke 772k , second 988k , third 999k

The second nuke is probably a damage roll.

Overall respectable and pretty easy to do.

[sacred badger]

Redlax -> Nc serena sync?

[dry whale]

Red >Gio>serena

[snow raptor]

Top 100 slowly sliping out of my hands

[dry whale]

Umbral acceleration would run out early if Gio sync first

[crude sandal]

How did Bicio even get the score he got?

[true locust]

Good question how he did it?

[crude sandal]

Psychic 3v1 requires superawakened Dexio or Jacq, not sure who's better

Steel 3v3 requires good skill gear rolls on the team like needing Critastrophe on all 3 skill gear

And also 5/5 on them

[true locust]

Depend who you use?

Maybe he use super?

[crude sandal]

Superawakening is obvious, but who's better between Dexio and Jacq?

[true locust]

Never saw any clears whit jacq

So hard tell🤣

This 2 unit are rare see even base version

[crude sandal]

Clearly those are the only two units that can help get top score

[true locust]

Yes since they tech sup

Rest pick are wors since some units are older ones

Or have not good sync damage

They was not design for this event dc

[crude sandal]

But when to use Jacq's TM?

[true locust]

Depend on his partners

[crude sandal]

Jacq at best can only use his TM thrice assuming you grid Trainer Sync Redemption 1

[crude sandal]

Chase/NC Rosa

[true locust]

Yeap if grid then befor 1 sync off course

And rest on 2/3 sync

Since less chance hit damage cap

[crude sandal]

Dexio can get SEUN over and over because of Super Syncer 9

[true locust]

Yes

After his 1 sync like arc leon

Get super up

[crude sandal]

If Dexio actually had SEUN for his 1st sync, then he beats Jacq already no matter what

[true locust]

This is like zone after sync

[crude sandal]

By the time Dexio reaches his 4th sync, he already hits damage cap

[true locust]

Good thing but not meta

Should be for this sync wat he do super up next

Psychic and dark stage are super limited stages

Like 4-5 units for good score

[crude sandal]

Is replacing the +25 sync move damage node on Dexio a good idea?

[true locust]

For wat?

[crude sandal]

For Brainteaser

[true locust]

No if you sync spam

[crude sandal]

Yeah

[sacred badger]

Ah wait, is this fer darksingle?

[crude sandal]

No, it's water

[dry whale]

No , water, she just uses the node

[true locust]

N is water

[sacred badger]

Hrmmmm

Oh wells

My redlax is only 1R

[true locust]

He did 3 sync

So its ok

[dry whale]

Then it's just slightly harder, still doable

[true locust]

You have 3 tm

Why harder ? 2 tm and g max

Same

[crude sandal]

If the damage cap was removed, would Jacq or Dexio be better?

[true locust]

Hard tell wat jacq would hit?

Nobody now it

[crude sandal]

Dexio hits damage cap by the 4th sync while Jacq on the 5th/last

[true locust]

Jacq hit on his b move too

[crude sandal]

But both have massive nuke at the end with their B Move

[true locust]

Yeap its why hard tell

Wat he would deal

[crude sandal]

Jacq deals twice of Dexio's B Move

[true locust]

Dexio b move suks

Vs jacq

But he can use it more easy

Since no need nothing for max damage like jacq

[crude sandal]

Dexio needs to use his B Move + Mind Games 9 to fully max out his multipliers

[true locust]

I use chase

For it

Not dexio

[crude sandal]

Use berry once as potion spam and use the other 2 berries for B Move consumption

[true locust]

Chase have mind games in grid plus mind games 2

3 hit and done

Way faster then use dexio b move

[crude sandal]

Use Thunder Shock 3 times?

Assuming Mind Games 9 gridded

[true locust]

Yeap i did it when was 3 vs 1 psychic this way

Yes

Since b move its take alot time

[crude sandal]

So you're gambling on the 2.7% chance with Chase

[true locust]

I did it:)

So was not hard

Plus i flinch too

[crude sandal]

Did you grid P-Moves and S-Moves crit or nah?

[true locust]

First time no

But when he never crit yes

[crude sandal]

Because without it, I have a grid that can reach all multipliers including Brainteaser

[dry whale]

By harder I mean less wiggle room. Losing the adrenaline just gives less time but should be able to sync with 2 ish seconds left. Assuming no misses. 1 miss and it's free.

[true locust]

When got good runs

Miss or para

Dexio never crit all sync when got -6 from 3 chase moves

[crude sandal]

How many syncs does Dexio get in with Chase/H. Lillie?

[true locust]

Its why i spend orbs and do it haha

H lillie is not good

You lose rebuff

[crude sandal]

Oh wait

Not her

NC Rosa I mean

[true locust]

Don’t remember 🤣

5-6

[crude sandal]

5 is probably baseline without evasion

6 is with enough evasion

If he gets in 6 syncs, then he doesn't deal the damage cap but his B Move will be in the 900k+ range

[true locust]

My was 680k 10 special up super up

Dexio

[crude sandal]

With circle active?

[true locust]

No

Run off time

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, according to my calcs, with 10 sync buffs (5 syncs with him), 10 SpMUN and no circle active, Dexio does 711k mininum variance on his B Move

[true locust]

Damage rolls hard calcs

Since they strange sometimes

[dry whale]

Ah so close. Not gonna bother to go back and get better rolls for 2 ticket.

https://youtu.be/OQEmaKKkolI?si=LdYpeu3rVFyQXCDs

[crude sandal]

Is Chase worse than Archie?

[dry whale]

Yes , my scores peaked higher with Archie 3.9m than it did with Chase 3.4m

[true locust]

Wat bonus %? You have from gears?

[dry whale]

42% +75spatk.

[crude sandal]

Funnily enough, if damage cap was raised higher, Jacq would've been the actual best unit for psychic 3v1

[dry whale]

Sounds like he has the same problem NC Serena has in Dark 3v1. All sync hit damage cap

When the final sync misses the Crit and still hits damage cap you know there is plenty of damage left on the table.

[crude sandal]

What surprises me is that even if Jacq is better with the damage cap being raised, Dexio is just behind him by 100k damage, but this is without SEUN on Jacq's B Move

[dry whale]

This is assuming both are super awakened?

[true locust]

42 its why this high

[crude sandal]

Hold on, Imma do a different rotation with Jacq on his TM usage

Because I used his TM on his 4th and 5th sync

And here's what I got:
With Damage Cap
Jacq: 621,572 + 552,509 + 621,572 + 999,999 + 999,999 + 999,999 = 4,795,650
Dexio: 444,611 + 889,223 + 999,999 + 999,999 + 999,999 + 948,076 = 5,281,907

Without Damage Cap
Jacq: 621,572 + 552,509 + 621,572 + 690,636 + 1,139,550 + 2,659,862 = 6,285,701
Dexio: 444,611 + 889,223 + 1,000,376 + 1,111,529 + 1,222,682 + 948,076 = 5,616,497

Jacq is literally psychic SS Gladion because Jacq's B Move carries the hardest

[true locust]

B move 2,6 m lol

[fallen trail]

lmao would it be worth to use 2 b moves if the cap is holding him back that much or would getting his buffs back be too much of a pain

[true locust]

Yeap get them back not sure if you get time for it

New arc support tm max all sts🤣

And tm 1 refresh haha

Jacq unlimited b move use

[crude sandal]

If there's no damage cap, then for Jacq (maybe SS Gladion too) specifically, move multipliers are better for him in skill gear

[true locust]

Yes

40% would be crazy

[crude sandal]

Speaking of SS Gladion, what's his best team again?

[pastel bone]

anyone have any tips for SS for gladion?

[crude sandal]

[pastel bone]

tried with lear but i think I need him exr

[crude sandal]

For this fight, EXR only gives him extra stats

[true locust]

Yeap only offensive sts

Skipp i think did all 3 stage whit him so he sure have vid on his channel on psychic whit lear you can check it

[plush palm]

@dry whale gotta wonder what grid youre running on jacq

im stuck at 1.8m w/o exr but i cant imagine the cake makes that much of a difference

[dry whale]

I'm not running Jacq don't have him. My psychic unit is Lucian

[plush palm]

how are people hitting dmg cap?

im clearly doing smth wrong then

[true locust]

Skill gears

[fallen trail]

yea its skill gears

though i got close with non exr jacq with only decent gears

got like 970k

if he was exr he’d hit cap

[fallen trail]

run this grid. the trickiest part to reset for is, between his twin beam and rosa’s relic song, two of your three random stat buffs have to be atk and evasion. he can buff all his other stats (rosa has precision pals for accuracy and nc blue has to discharge once which will give you def)

[plush palm]

huh im using him w/ chase

no rosa

[fallen trail]

oh no rosa will complicate it

chase buffs his evasion so he’d need def as one of his random buffs instead

the b move doesn’t need the seun from his tm, it will overshoot the cap

that’s better used on his syncs

[plush palm]

pretty sure he hits +18 already w/ +3 crit +6 spatk +6 speed +6 eva

idk how many buffs his B move caps at

[true locust]

At maks all sts

[plush palm]

wait what

huh

[fallen trail]

yes his b move doesn’t cap

besides max stats

that’s why it resets all his stats

each stat buff is a 10% boost

so up to 450% with everything +6 and crit +3

which is close to 910 bp at 3/5

edit cuz i mathed bad

[royal jolt]

:D

[civic island]

Gloria exr when

[royal jolt]

Sprint

[acoustic chasm]

Yep, she has CD-1 on TM, it's over...

[safe prawn]

well she has head start and adrenaline via grid

They’re gonna do a rerun event where Victor gets field and Gloria sprint imo

[proud minnow]

I could see that

[royal jolt]

Bro wants to be VHop so bad 😭

[safe prawn]

They are gonna run together alongside milo

WHO NEEDS GRASSY TERRAIN??

[civic island]

I'd like yo go for the superaeakening but it's literal trash

[safe prawn]

Not after I’ve been working on Poppy

Bonk goes brrrr

[still hearth]

He def can do more

[cloud timber]

think i've seen over 3m with his best possible partners

[still hearth]

Oooh

I’m guessing it’s someone who can apply water rebuff

[cloud timber]

well someone did 3.1m with nc serena and ssa gio but that's not the best one, can't find that one

[fluid anvil]

the top 1 5M result in water 3v1 is probably with 9/5 Dahlia?

[acoustic chasm]

Coping for Nemona EXR before ST electric ends

[plush palm]

i think that 3.9m serena clear needs lillie unfortunately

[cloud timber]

people are saying dojo gloria is best here which i'm not sure how

screenshots of jp players that haven't been posted here

[plush palm]

how high is she hitting

[cloud timber]

top score

[plush palm]

how

mine is only 1/5 so idk

[cloud timber]

i wouldn't know

[plush palm]

my best guess for her grid?

[vagrant ivy]

today I found out that skill gear bonuses aren’t team wide and only apply to units whose stats are boosted by the gear

[cloud timber]

lol

[plush palm]

thats why people are pinning champ and mc lol

[teal haven]

Not to brag or anything but

Should easily get top 100

[teal haven]

Whaddya mean hopium I got like 2.9m that's bigger than like

2.899m

One of the biggest numbers ever

It's up there with like

100

[pallid girder]

DC Shauna is with Sylveon so no free dragon zone.

[vagrant ivy]

DC bianca next with f2p fighting zone or ghost zone pls