#Damage Challenge

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icy pendant
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Hail is not worth, rebuff multiplier very much is

rapid sparrow
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Hail stuff is not good in DC

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Otherwise yes

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His rebuff Multiplier is really good and shouldn't be skipped

brazen escarp
brazen escarp
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oh wait

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there is one right below

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sorry

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i did not look at it, wow its just insane

fallen trail
brazen escarp
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100% dmg buff

fallen trail
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and your spammer needs snow shelter which can take better lucky skills away from them

brazen escarp
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what could be better lucky skills?

lone pond
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cs2

fallen trail
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head start and adrenaline mostly

lone pond
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superduper effective
or those

fallen trail
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if just the spammer

brazen escarp
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but melony already has snow shelter no?

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ig ice zone would be better but eh

fallen trail
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the hail chip is a bigger issue

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its really bad and eats a lot of time for not a lot of damage in return

brazen escarp
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but melony has snow shelter

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does the lucky skill pop up every time u use sing?

fallen trail
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you can’t control that

brazen escarp
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true true, but 50% is alot of damage

fallen trail
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not worth missing 2 syncs

brazen escarp
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i mean it could be experimented with

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2 syncs might be an exaggeration tbh

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but alright

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without hail if red gets 5 syncs then it would be 2+2.5+3+3.5+4 = 15

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if with hail he gets 3 syncs then = 3 + 3.75 + 4.5 = 11.25

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ok hmm

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wait

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nvm

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ok yea its probably worse

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but doesnt hail only last 50s

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so about 2 syncs

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thats not too good then

fallen trail
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yeah

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its been tried

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its not worth it

true locust
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Blizzard

cursive linden
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It's not much but it's honest work

lone pond
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but can you call using a 4/5 non-wally pf honest work?

dark tusk
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Needing help getting as many points as I can. Using NC Red 1/5 as the damage dealer, but can do others if needed.

Here's what I got for Ice types and Support.

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Currently my team was just NC RGB but I wanted to see if I could add more score with others

sacred badger
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as for the team, check the clear teams in the Pins

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your NC Red is 1/5 though, so dont expect him to hit 1m~

dark tusk
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Yeah I don't expect it either. I JUST started two weeks ago lol. Just wanted to know if I could hit higher than 250k

sacred badger
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You'll need people that can help you "spam" NC Red's sync

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Honestly, with that team, Melony'd be a good unit to use, but you don't have her yet.

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You can study people's NC Red, how they act and when they start dropping his blizzards/ tm usage and whatnot

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If you need pointers, i can record my gameplay of him o.o

lone pond
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He probably could take bp barry with nc blue

crude sandal
cursive linden
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Uhhh

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I forgor

crude sandal
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Because I got 4 syncs and got close to 3.7M

sacred badger
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still would require EX though.

dark tusk
sacred badger
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yeah, not sure if you'll have 2 support 4star candies for him if you have enough BP Tickets to buy him.

viscid lion
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Do you just do the same thing you do with melony you in in single challenges? Cause the sleep spam is a lot harder when there's 3 ppl wasting time with animations

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This is the team I'm using rn

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Got 800k but I'm sure red can do better

sacred badger
vapid kernel
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I got that score with Melony , not Lillie

cursive linden
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Yeah, i wasn't trying

crude sandal
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What was top 100 last ice 3v3?

royal jolt
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I love getting lucky with Silver para and evasion only to have Chase screw it all up by getting hit

vast glade
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A new attempt where I screwed up

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This one had better RNG but I end up not being able to use Blizzard with 10 Sp.atk Up

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Anyway, now I reached 4 million, I think I will consider myself done with this rotation

hard sleet
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Not too shabby

crude sandal
vast glade
vast glade
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Dang, that was crazy

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Not sure if I'll actually try resetting to get close to such score though.

crude sandal
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You'd need a hella lot of dodges/para

vast glade
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I got a lot to reach this score I posted

fallen trail
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adam got 5 syncs w red

vast glade
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Not sure if I want trying out for more lol

crude sandal
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I got 4.3M with only 3/5 Chase and Red

fallen trail
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unironically chase being superawakened might eat time

vast glade
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He does.

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But I don't regret.

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My bias takes precedence over the meta WEEZing

crude sandal
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Chase is still meta in the least

vast glade
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Best Boy

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Looking forward he getting alts

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And hopefully appearing in the Lodge

true locust
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Yeap chase set sync up next cost time.

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You use 4 tm

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But i got 7 second left after sync so maybe it can be done too. Hard tell for sure .

vast glade
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When is the best time to use Chase's TM?

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I think that's where I mess up

true locust
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From start lol

vast glade
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But like, I spam his TM 4 times in a row?

true locust
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But you use just x special attack

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2 times

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Then 2 circle

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Its all about it

vast glade
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That's what I do, trainer move, Sp. Atk 2 times and then circle before Red's sync

true locust
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Never use his trainer move if have lilie

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Gauge is fine

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His tm take time and no need at all

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But need play whit 2 eva and 3 up at start is kinda annoing befor set 2 circle

vast glade
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Dang, maybe that's my mistake then

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I do use his TM for sync accelaration

true locust
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Its slower then sync spam

vast glade
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Guess the trick might be praying for Sp.Atk refreshing like crazy

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Which provides extra evasion

true locust
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Its just number

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I avoid 6 moves in row have 3 eva

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Have 5 got hit all time:)

vast glade
true locust
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In this game its not realy important

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You can have 1 or 6 is same

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Luck need

vast glade
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Guess I might try out a run without using Chase's TM at all, only Sp.Atk and see what happens.

true locust
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Just use sp atk 2 times

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More its consume time

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Low chance get 5 sync

scenic grotto
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I have been thinking about the stages I haven’t gotten 1 million damage on

MT and ST:
Ice
Ground
Rock

Only ST:
Fighting
Ghost
Steel

I know I can invest in Courtney and Gordie and SS N (who I have) but I don’t want to invest in units I will only use in one or two stages.
Don’t know if Mix Lucas can clear ST Ground but if he can then there’s hope that Mix Infernape will be able to clear ST Fighting.

fallen trail
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ground st is my worst stage i think, i only got 1 mil by dps rushing w maxie

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ss morty courtney and maxie and you just. mash precipice blades

hard sleet
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Your worst score is 1 Mil???

royal jolt
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I think my worst stages are:
Single Dark
Single Psychic
Single Rock*
Single Ghost
Triple Rock

Single Rock only because I suck at scoring high with SS Diantha

proud minnow
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my worst stages so far are

Single Poison
Single Flying
Single Ground (pretty sure I could reach 1M with Courtney, but I kinda got pissed off last time trying due to bad RNG)
Single Ghost
Single Water (my Water roster is quite uninvested lmao)

royal jolt
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I've had to rely on Courtney for single ground twice already. I know the struggle :(

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I hope the struggle goes away with Arc Cyn. I know triple ground, a stage I also used to struggle on, will be infinitely easier

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It's rough out here

scenic grotto
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My worst scores

royal jolt
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I didn't realize I out-scored my SS Silver score with freaking Red in single

scenic grotto
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Nice, poor Melony being replaced by Lillie

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Lusamine and Melony being competitive mothers

royal jolt
scenic grotto
# royal jolt She's now in the "in case there's a super sparring event" club

Indeed
Poor Larry, I pity pulled him on the 72 hour banner (because why not try getting some random limited units)
Thought he would be useful in DC stages
Only became useful in two or three stages before being replaced by better team composition
at least he gets used in Battle Rally, even if he almost always faints

royal jolt
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I'm not too familiar with Larry's game. I wanted him for the BGM only. But, the times I have seen him in action were pretty cool

scenic grotto
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The idea is that he can:
Paralyse the opponent
Rebuff a single opponent once
Provide speed via his TM
Debuffs opponent defence

royal jolt
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That doesn't sound too bad

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I could see him working for single Dark since all I've got is NC Serena

scenic grotto
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Right, I have NC Serena but I manage to get 1 million damage with Redlax and Elio as NC Serena’s partners
RedLax’s super effective up next just seems to allow an ally to do more damage than -1 rebuff with defence drops

royal jolt
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You don't take the opponent to -2 rebuff?

scenic grotto
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Oh, I do take my opponents down to -2 rebuff with NC Serena, I just meant in general RedLax has gotten me higher scores than using Larry

royal jolt
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Ohh

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Got it

scenic grotto
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For the stages that I don’t have 1 m damage, my only plans on how to improve them are:

Fighting: hope Mix Infernape is a strong sync nuker
Ground: see if using Rika can help but will likely just need a better damage dealer (or for Courtney to get Strike Cake)
Ice, Rock, Ghost, Steel: just need DeNA to add units that can clear 1 million damage and that I want to invest and/or pull (I.e. a matter of personal taste)

royal jolt
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is Kimono Grimsley not getting the job done for single steel?

scenic grotto
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I could EX him but I haven’t by choice
Doesn’t look like Anni Lillie 2.0 can get 1 million damage on her own unfortunately
hope to be able to get 1 million damage with MC Solgaleo in triple

proud minnow
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I mean MC Solgaleo can reach 1M in triple

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I do remember having to roll SP3 on it tho

scenic grotto
royal jolt
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you don't even need SP3 on it. It's just very roll-dependent on damage. At least when I did it

proud minnow
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I do remember not having great skill gears for DC back then

royal jolt
royal jolt
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I now see the issue with that statement, lmao
I should've checked the actual run

scenic grotto
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The best (or only) units worth pulling for specifically for DC are units you think you will use in more than just two stages

fallen trail
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so literally like 3 days ago

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i lied it was bianca not ss morty

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and i guess my worst stage was st grass

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but i have 3/5 adaman now so when that comes back i’ll redeem myself

scenic grotto
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I have V Hop so I hope V Hop is able to get me close to 1 million damage on st Grass

fallen trail
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i used him on triple but i think adaman sync spam might be better for single

scenic grotto
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Adaman is definitely better
But I have no Adaman

fallen trail
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dam i didnt know erika could even reach 1 mil

royal jolt
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She could do it F2P as well

royal jolt
coarse veldt
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whats a good team for ice damage challenge?

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i tried nc red an blue and elio

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but i got 350k only

scenic grotto
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Managed to get 1 million damage in Fairy Weak single the other day thanks to V Calum
The funny thing is that I invested in him for his debuffs, being able to debuff opponent offences and Sp. Def whilst providing Fairy Zone every sync
Same for Oleana and NC Leaf
Invested in them for support, managed to get 1 million damage as the main damage dealer

royal jolt
coarse veldt
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whats the difference between none ex and ex?

scenic grotto
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Support EX gives +2 sync buff instead of +1 sync buff
Meaning syncing gives a bigger stat buff

icy pendant
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Given Elio isn’t EX either, just flat out replacing him with Melony is probably the viable approach

coarse veldt
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i go nc blue -> nc red -> nc red

icy pendant
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Melony is a faster Elio 60% of the time and the same speed the other 40%

coarse veldt
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i see

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but melony doesnt get impatient 1 i think no?

icy pendant
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Impatient is nice but not enough to make up for Elio taking up considerably more time per sing

coarse veldt
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okay

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thank u

icy pendant
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generally speaking your sing spammer shouldn’t tank unless you’re using Chase since status conditions exist

dusty solar
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just give red a candy when you get one

royal jolt
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I mean
Even without EXR, can't 2/5 NC Red still hit 1M?

cloud timber
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yeah and with it is possible to get to 2m but needs chase/dc blue

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hala could still potentially be better, depends

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nc blue/melony best enabler pair for both

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with that roster

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if you do red you want to be able to get enough red/blue mprs to get to 10 smun before his first sync, you have a guaranteed 7 without mprs with blizzard + both tms + team sync think on blue grid

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wait that's 9

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so you just need one on either which isn't bad at all

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and then you don't have to put up with crit luck or rolling for late seun on hala

lusty galleon
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like, mine is not EX R but 2/5 and I have all my current DC scores over 1M RosaThink

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my old score

vapid kernel
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Good riddance

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Not enough gauge for last blizzard bur used the 10 SMUN on a B move

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Lillie sing activated twice (first hit Silver then hit right) but i think that helped actually in queuing moves

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Im top 19

dry whale
vapid kernel
dry whale
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The hope is the air cutter would hit Chase so I would not need to waste time manually putting the paralysis. The paralysis is critical for the skill gear multiplier.

vapid kernel
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Ic

royal jolt
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4.2M and 4.3M seems to be incredibly common, heh

sacred badger
pallid girder
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It's the best team. No one beat NC Red yet, even 10/5 Sina.

sacred badger
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gonna have to laugh in a year or two, when NC Red gets 4/5 and 5/5 tiles that give him MORE damage

pallid girder
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Considering how Anni N's 4/5 & 5/5 end up I'm afraid NC Red would prob only get some utility tiles. (like hail entry or - cd)

sacred badger
grand oracle
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What did anniN get

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Nvm just saw... thats kinda ehh

lethal siren
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Lol
Recharging strike and sync countdown ig

pallid girder
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NC Red has recharging strike alr. I assume a second one is impossible.

sacred badger
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mmhmm

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fuinny of him if he gets -2 SP.DEF whenever he attacks wwww

restive galleon
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What do I use for ice dc

crude sandal
restive galleon
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Yeah that's 4 strike coins away

crude sandal
restive galleon
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4 coins away from double candy

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Then I'll 1/5 to 3/5

crude sandal
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I think 1/5 NC Red would be best still

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Not sure who your support units are

plush palm
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hes way better than irida at least

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my iridia clear is still at 980k

cursive linden
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Eh, ill take it

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I forgot to use this LarryDead

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Goddamit

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Back to Chase/Hol.Lillie ig

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Didn't use Her B move because Chase keeps getting hit

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Fuck it, i'm stopping at 3.6M

lethal siren
cursive linden
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I'm just gonna wait for Fire ST

crude sandal
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Because 3.6M is 4 syncs

cursive linden
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I forgor

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I don't count syncs

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1:17
53
33
2

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So 4, yeah

crude sandal
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So dodge luck gives you 5 syncs after all

true locust
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Yeap for 5 need good dodge luck

vapid kernel
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Its not so hard to farm some dodges and get 5 syncs out of NC red actually

plush palm
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that last 30k is a pain

sacred badger
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i'm assuming El Irida has her EXR o.o

plush palm
plush palm
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had to tweak my gear

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for a extra 2%

acoustic chasm
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Melony gaming with max move

plush palm
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i mean no reason not to use it for a extra 30-40k

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max moves take less time than icy wind

crude sandal
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Has anyone tried to use SC Irida in ghost 3v3 with all enemies being trapped?

plush palm
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i dont see any trap sync mults on her

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feels like she wants someone else to drop atk

icy pendant
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custom cookie is trap and sync 4

plush palm
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huh feels like it aint worth running over cs2

icy pendant
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I have hit 2.4m with her before but I don't think all targets were trapped

plush palm
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and chase + debuffer

icy pendant
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https://youtu.be/y2OyknJN8Mw this was back in the day so colress + gardenia were still I think the ideal combo with her

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(and yes, this is still my best score because I cba with SSR Cynthia)

plush palm
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weirdly enough i can see ghetsis working really well w/ her and chase

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or maybe not ghetsis

cloud timber
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for aoe pecking order setting + spam compression it's faster to use anni n but idk how successful either him or ghetsis can be

plush palm
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idk what good aoe option you have

cloud timber
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oleana is even more efficient at the cost of setting triple poison but speed debuffs can do something

plush palm
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if it was physical 1v3 i would drop in bianca

royal jolt
royal jolt
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If they give him Freezer Burn, I'll riot

scenic grotto
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Can’t stop thinking about what DC stages I currently can’t get 1 million damage on
Ice I just need a stronger unit
Rock and Ground MT I might be able to get 1 million damage but if I don’t then I would need stronger units
Ghost and Steel ST, I would likely only get 1 million damage in both of those if I find myself investing in a ghost and steel type for support reasons but they also end up having very good nuke damage

vapid kernel
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Need Melony 45K to cross 1M

wise idol
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Clearly got a lot to learn

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1/5 NC Red

icy pendant
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well 1/5 is definitely part of the problem

wise idol
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I know I know

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I only have 2 dps candies. Was hoping to save them for something else later

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Dunno specifically for what yet

glossy umbra
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I think this is good, any ways I can improve?

cloud timber
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if you grind for 2 mprs on red you can get to 10 smun, i did something like that and made it to 2m with 2/5 red (but 3/5 chase and dc blue)

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and if you save melony max move for after last sync you can do more damage there too

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could probably also fit in more syncs by slowing down game speed

vernal condor
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tfw i got a good run and then noticed i didnt switch to sp3

royal jolt
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Felt

vernal condor
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Fucking finally

wise idol
royal jolt
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Super sparring is taking FOREVER

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The game is so boring rn

crude sandal
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Ranked DC is next Friday

sacred badger
royal jolt
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I knowww
Right near the tail end of the update

sacred badger
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we still have N/Water1 and Bede/Poison3 28th & 31st respectfully

royal jolt
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Single water is boring for my roster, sadly
Triple poison is questionable

crude sandal
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How much did SSA Cynthia/NC Rosa/Rei scored last fighting 3v3?

sacred badger
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watersingle with NC Serena gaming? ❤️

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i think i'll be doing uhhhhhh

crude sandal
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It's either Cerena or Vede

sacred badger
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Chase, Lillie and Cerena this time around

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H.Lillie

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the last time i was doing Redlax + What'shisface, Elio

royal jolt
crude sandal
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Not sure who was better during the last ranked DC with 3v1 water-weak

vagrant ivy
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SS misty hit 1.4m water single with melony

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maybe h.lillie can help her do more

royal jolt
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Hm, true

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Evasion strats could be funny

crude sandal
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Evasion strats has always been mostly the play

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Which is why Rei will need to be at least 4/5 for fighting 3v3 next Friday

royal jolt
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SPF will be so dumb, though

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I hate that multiplier so much

crude sandal
vagrant ivy
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chase MGA PoryWoke

royal jolt
crude sandal
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Oh that

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Well, you'd need someone with gauge help

royal jolt
crude sandal
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Like besides the regular MGA, you'd also need field MGA

royal jolt
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I wish I had 4/5

crude sandal
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I'd probably grid HS1 and fish attack buff with Rosa

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Because -5 sync CD at the start and you can immediately sync on the first turn

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Rei's TM for -2 and -2 from the actions of SSA Cynthia and Rosa

royal jolt
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Oh yeah
Numbing Blow gaming

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I forgot about that

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Maybe it won't be so bad

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I was very unfamiliar with Riley's game, so I was delighted when he hit 1M

crude sandal
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3v1 fire is close between NC Leaf, Glorialt and AS Leon

royal jolt
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Doesn't he want burn for his nuke?

vagrant ivy
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close is a strong word LeonWow

crude sandal
vagrant ivy
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I can see arc Leon easily doing more with the b move near the end

crude sandal
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So Ingo will be replaced for someone else

royal jolt
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I forgot about SS Ingo

crude sandal
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Ingo is only viable in 3v3 because of Go Viral

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Also speed and evasion buffs

royal jolt
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I actually thought he was tech, so i was pissed when he didn't show up in the selects

crude sandal
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He's base sprint

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SS Emmet base field

cloud timber
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st makes it more possible for melony to potentially handle spam for galar circle if she ends up managing the gauge at all but it's pretty likely you won't want to give up evasion

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and befuddle 2

crude sandal
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Leon comp is conflicting

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Leaf is easy

cloud timber
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i do also expect leon to stay in the 4m range

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and i don't know where leaf peaked and glorialt does 4m too so i dunno which is best

crude sandal
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What about Glorialt?

crude sandal
vagrant ivy
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I expect high invest Leon to peak at 5-6m

crude sandal
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Leon does more damage, but Leaf has evasion on her side

cloud timber
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i think 10/5 wins

crude sandal
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Oh? Interesting

cloud timber
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tends to, anyway

crude sandal
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Glorialt is kinda slot compression too

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Paralyze with Bounce, rebuff on max move and sun at superawakening

cloud timber
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yep

crude sandal
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If Glorialt can get close to 5M on 3v1 fighting and flying, then she can too in fire

cloud timber
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def

pallid girder
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I think the one that can win in the end should be the one that can slot in eva like always.

cloud timber
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should be all of them, either chase or ss ingo can pair with any

royal jolt
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How is Alt. 2 Gloria hitting 5M?? Is she working with V Marnie or something?

sacred badger
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Gloriaalt at 5M? 😮

cloud timber
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she got close and it was on fighting and flying

pallid girder
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Well some ppl think SS Ingo is not for st and refuse to use him, so they'll lose eva that way.

cloud timber
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it's at least possible to, idk how it works out and it does have to run into some sort of gauge issue

royal jolt
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Flying is so funny
I love using her for it

pallid girder
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Her Fighting is ~4.4M. Only Flying really surpass 5M but it's coz her Bounce -cd in flying form.
Fire she'll be more close to fighting socre I suppose.

acoustic chasm
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Tf, what's her team? I barely got 3M during the last 3v1

royal jolt
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I have 4/5, so it'd be nice if I found I had a chance at even 4M

pallid girder
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Well 10/5 first; otherwise you cant really think about 4M.

acoustic chasm
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Oh nvm then BallGuyROFL

royal jolt
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Well

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The idea was nice

lusty galleon
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the Lear super sparring MinaSmile

true locust
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Yes give me ranked im bored😏

royal jolt
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I'm genuinely bored

hollow whale
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This is a boring mode

cloud timber
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game is boring eos when

true locust
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Depend how guilds will work

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If they suks eos could be soon🤣

cloud timber
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cool

crude sandal
crude sandal
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I find it very funny that the top 3 players right now are non-JP players

scarlet ivy
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in this mode?

crude sandal
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Yes

crude sandal
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Huh, this is weird

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AS Leon with V. Marnie and Melony deals less than NC Leaf

upper radish
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do we know what types and format the super sparring will be

crude sandal
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And scroll down a bit

upper radish
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ty

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oh no steel

hollow whale
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Don’t think I can 1 mil with any single team, but combined should be easy

scenic grotto
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I was thinking earlier
For steal single, would it even be possible to get 1 million damage with Anni Lillie 2 without Arc Steven or Colress EX?

pallid girder
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Colress spam + AL2 sync can also get 1M I supposed.

vapid kernel
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so

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Did Sparring start?

scenic grotto
vapid kernel
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nice

true locust
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24 is start

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Im ready😏

vapid kernel
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Datamine day

true locust
#

Not sure if it will be 24

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More 27-30

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Datamine

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For sure we get 2 pal units

wind current
vapid kernel
#

nub

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hire absolutely

crude sandal
#

Wondering what will your teams be for tomorrow

cloud timber
#

anni n/v marnie/chase

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maybe could do 1.5m or something

plush palm
#

gloria alt my beloved

#

idk what im gonna be running w/ her besides bianca

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ss morty w/o exr is meh

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bc of sunbathe

cloud timber
#

bianca's best spammer is easily colress so

plush palm
#

ik

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i just wish i had a better sun setter than ss morty

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unless theres a comp out there that uses tierno

cloud timber
#

tierno needs elio or h lillie to manage gauge, think bp barry is slower

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than elio

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  • burn
plush palm
#

tbf she can set her own para

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elio is fine

cloud timber
#

oh yea

plush palm
#

damn

hard sleet
#

What’s red’s score

plush palm
#

us sina skippers are missing out

hard sleet
#

6.9 mil?

crude sandal
hard sleet
crude sandal
#

Oh wait

hard sleet
#

No I mean their final score during the fight doesn’t add up with the one on the win menu

crude sandal
cloud timber
#

statusing left plus targeting with aoe move makes it only count that one target damage

#

also that requires 10/5 sina, nc red is still way more cost effective

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and better

pallid girder
#

Havent seen Sina do 6m even at 10/5 so yeah.

crude sandal
#

BTW, how does Olympia fare in psychic 3v1?

plush palm
#

probably ok?

#

she has evasion

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should be able to 1m

spiral halo
#

Before getting Jacq I used her to reach 1m

plush palm
#

i got 1.5m w/ her

#

she can spam on her own

#

just needs a bit of gauge support

#

idk what the optimal support for her is tho

vagrant ivy
#

Bianca + BP Barry?

spiral halo
#

Premium can use NC Rosa + NC Blue

vagrant ivy
#

yeah that

cloud timber
#

redlax could be better than blue

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but her setup might take too long to be worth it then so

vagrant ivy
#

Olympia setup is only 3 calm minds and a TM

#

NC blue could help with that and give speed for rising tide

plush palm
#

she can spam

#

no need for barry

#

might be able to squeeze in a psychic terrain setter

vagrant ivy
#

gauge where

plush palm
#

idk if precognition + speed buffs is enough

#

if not i might have to experiment a bit

#

or drop in chase / bianca

cloud timber
#

can run rosa for less gauge hungry spam + rebuff though, don't think it's worth dropping her for anything

#

if you have her, i don't

plush palm
#

i dont either

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but off i also have jacq exr

cloud timber
#

still hard to cm spam effectively without bringing in chase which overlaps a lot of buffs and buffs speed less efficiently

plush palm
#

gonna stick w/ jacq shenanigans i think

cloud timber
#

yea jacq is way better

plush palm
#

gotta wonder if there a alternative to rosa for people w/o her

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probably gonna use dc blue as my spammer

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bc im already using chase

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plus dc blue sets off psychic theme skill

cloud timber
#

just whatever counts as your best spammer, dc blue with chase is always solid

plush palm
#

gotta wonder if the optimal use of scorching sync and virulent toxin os still just statusing 1 of the sides

pallid girder
#

To ALeon it's not. It's prob case by case.

plush palm
#

for geeta i think it still is

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idk about hilda

cloud timber
#

if it's like 3-5 you want 1 or 2, arc leon and ss lysandre have scorching sync 9 so for them it's always better to burn 3

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but most of the time you're looking at 3 or 5

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as in virulent toxin 3

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ss hilda has scorching sync 5

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that's what the best scores have always done though i'm not sure whether they burn 1 or 2, thought it might be 2

cloud timber
#

not sure if virulent toxin 3 alone is worth even one poison but for geeta she needs it to activate b move and gain a boost for that too

normal parcel
vagrant ivy
#

1/5 nc red can do 1.5m score using chase

crude sandal
#

NC Leaf or Glorialt supremacy tomorrow?

vernal condor
#

Maybe both, unironically

pallid girder
#

Don't ignore ArcLeon.

crude sandal
#

I calced him with full Galar team with V. Marnie, his sync is half of both of them

vernal condor
#

Arc Leon isnt gonna be the best here yeah

crude sandal
#

Another case in the fraud allegations LeonWow

vagrant ivy
#

LeonWow we shall see

crude sandal
#

Leon has no evasion

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And if you do have evasion, then he's either without a spammer or without sun

true locust
#

I test now

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Got same 4 leon sync like aoe

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Marnie leon and lilie

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And have sup sync not like befor ingo 1 buff

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Gloria alt would need marnie or leaf for sun and lilie can afford or melony

crude sandal
true locust
#

If use gloria yes

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Since first move is bounce then tm

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And have 2 eva up so they sure miss some moves after

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And gloria is first target

plush palm
#

reaction passive takes up time

#

so youre probably better w/ bianca if you have her

true locust
#

Miss is way more important then like small lose from grid

#

Time

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Bianca is not for fire

#

Leaf or marnie

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Need sun for sync damage boost

crude sandal
#

Leaf is for me anyways

#

And I'm gonna use Chase/H. Lillie

true locust
#

I will test gloria vs leon

crude sandal
#

Leon is 3rd best, not sure who's best between Leaf and Gloria

#

It's close, even with Gloria's superawakening

true locust
#

Glori will score 5m +

crude sandal
#

Oh?

true locust
#

You have sun support

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Fight bianca have no zone

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Marnie have also galar circle

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Sun and gloria is galar

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Mean big boost

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Lillie have sprint no gauge issue like melony

#

This will be nice score

crude sandal
#

This is 1st sync with Gloria

true locust
#

First is super

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Since have from max move

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And rebuff you have too

crude sandal
#

So this then

true locust
#

Plus depend on rng you may use lilie b move in the end

#

You apply galar circle and sun rebuff?

crude sandal
true locust
#

Not bad i have good gears for gloria

#

Easy 5m score

#

Plus gloria have soft up so no need worry about sync crit

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Its nice thing

crude sandal
#

Leaf's 1st sync

true locust
#

Leaf is peak same like befor

crude sandal
#

I think it's more with H. Lillie

true locust
#

Gloria is self sufficient since have para and eva

crude sandal
#

She might be slightly below Gloria

true locust
#

Leaf i did befor now time for gloria and leon

crude sandal
#

Ok, let's see what 5/5 Leaf looks like

true locust
#

Leaf issue you use chase

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If he get hit its big time waist

crude sandal
#

About 8% or 9% higher

true locust
#

Gloria should be top score

#

Leon 2 around leaf score

#

4 sync and b move and g max

crude sandal
true locust
#

Not best grid

#

You use super preparation

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No need for super moves also

#

Last move will be marnie b move

#

Hit more damage

crude sandal
true locust
#

Gloria only use bounce 1 time only

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I dont use super duper effective 1

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Rest is same

crude sandal
#

@true locust I found something funny

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Leaf's 2nd sync does more than Gloria's 2nd sync without SEUN on either of them

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Gloria only beats Leaf on the 1st sync, 2nd and subsequent syncs Leaf slightly edges out Gloria

true locust
#

But leaf issue set up is slower

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She miss one more sync

#

Grid good but kick reduce sync from leer and use mighty afliction

crude sandal
#

Why no Afflictor's Fervor?

true locust
#

Chase will get hit set up circle

crude sandal
#

Too slow?

true locust
#

All cost time

#

Yes slow

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And no need at all

#

Sing spam is faster then this

crude sandal
#

So 5/5 Leaf has a chance to get close to superawakened Glorialt

true locust
#

Gloria now get 5 syncs

#

When you have way more aoe moves

#

Leaf never get 5

crude sandal
true locust
#

I got just 4 miss now

#

So not alot and need set up sun in the end

crude sandal
#

Also, maybe Leaf can close the gap between her and Gloria because of her being stronger than Gloria from 2nd sync and beyond. Not sure, just coping here

#

Actually, I just thought of something big brained using Chase to set up Leaf's multipliers

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If Chase has Mind Games 9 gridded, it means you just need 2 uses of Leer for Leaf to have exactly maxed out innate and/or Power Play multipliers

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Chase just needs 1 Mind Games proc for it to be fully set up

#

@true locust What do you think?

true locust
#

Chase move is kinda same time like leaf

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Just you need use leaf b move chase circle its time cost

#

Leaf is 4 sync

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And need alot rng

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Gloria is easy 5 sync low rng

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Plus leaf may not crit sync

#

Gloria should be 1

#

Leon can be around leaf or even more

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Since his b move hit 999k

crude sandal
#

And like I said, his comp is conflicting

true locust
#

But he have super up next each sync

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2 rebuff

#

Burn make him 4 sync

crude sandal
#

His B Move will carry him, but he'll still be behind Leaf and Gloria

true locust
#

Gloria yes

#

Leaf and leon score will be close

#

Same 4 sync

#

Just leon finish move deal big damage its main dif

crude sandal
#

1st sync of Leon with V. Marnie and Melony

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2nd sync

true locust
#

Yes his first suks

crude sandal
#

With -2 rebuff and SEUN

true locust
#

We will test it out soon

#

First i go leon and after gloria

crude sandal
#

If you say 4 syncs is possible with Leon, then I'll calc it

true locust
#

Yes i did now 4 sync

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When its aoe

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So you hit way more times

#

Singel should be more easy then now

crude sandal
#

I got a calc of (funnily enough) 2,626,262 total damage for Leon

true locust
#

Whit b move 999k?

#

And gmax super up

crude sandal
#

Wait, does the B Move or the max move get the SEUN?

true locust
#

G max

crude sandal
#

Wait

true locust
#

B move hit 999k any way

#

No need super

#

A and leon first sync will have 6 sync up next

#

Count this in

crude sandal
#

Calcs According in PoMaTools
1st Sync: 216677
2nd Sync: 437521
3rd Sync: 500024
4th Sync: 562528
G-Max Wildfire (8 Sync Buffs): 177565 * 3
B Move (8 Sync Buffs): 372887

true locust
#

B move aoe ranked hit 999k no super

#

So something wrong

#

And was ingo sync less sync buff

#

And lillie speed boost b move too and special give from sync

crude sandal
#

I forgot Leon has 3 SpMUN upon using his max move

true locust
#

Yes

crude sandal
true locust
#

And marnie tm give it too

#

I will use lillie

crude sandal
#

If not Melony, then his damage will be slightly worse

true locust
#

No time for 4 sync whit melony

#

You need sync reduce from lillie

crude sandal
#

Lillie it is then, hold on

#

Then that means, Leon's B Move can also get SEUN

true locust
#

No

crude sandal
#

If enough time

true locust
#

You use on gmax

#

No time

#

This run is just get 4 sync insta g max and b move

#

No time for nothing

crude sandal
#

I was gonna say to use Lillie's B Move after using Leon's max move

#

But ok

true locust
#

Never happend

#

No miss

crude sandal
#

Fair

true locust
#

You have 7 special on b move

#

Lillie sup sync and speed boost for moves she team have each 2 speed

crude sandal
#

Wait, why use SEUN on max move when this is single target?

true locust
#

Since you have after sync

#

No time use b move and after max move

#

Max move is insta no time use

crude sandal
true locust
#

Yes

crude sandal
#

1st Sync (4 Sync Buffs): 209,189
2nd Sync (5 Sync Buffs): 422,402
3rd Sync (6 Sync Buffs): 482,745
4th Sync (7 Sync Buffs): 543,089
G-Max Wildfire (8 Sync Buffs): 178,883
B Move (8 Sync Buffs): 1,080,006 or 999,999

Total: 2,828,307

#

Still not enough either way to beat Leaf

topaz spade
#

I've seen enough, leon is the worst unit in the game

crude sandal
true locust
#

I thik whit my gears i can push 4 m around leon

dry whale
# true locust Leaf is 4 sync

Leaf syncs 5 times but your still right about dodge luck.

Looking at my previous run if it's possible to sneak in Lillie B move it will have to be likely on the first sync maybe the second one.

If done anywhere else damage cap makes you waste it.

true locust
#

5 times and 4m?

dry whale
#

Yes

crude sandal
dry whale
#

4.1m

true locust
#

Then gloria is easy score more

#

I did leaf 4m

#

I was think it was 4 syncs🤣

#

You record so can check it

dry whale
crude sandal
#

If you give Leaf SEUN on 2nd sync, then you overcap by 165,966

true locust
#

If use lilie b move you losing 9 second

#

Not sure if leaf run have this time gap

crude sandal
#

What was the best comp again with Leaf?

#

Chase and who else?

true locust
#

Befor was chase and melony

dry whale
#

NC Red had the time to sneak one in, I'm sure Leaf can , well I'm gonna find out real quick.

If not Holiday Lillie just makes 5 syncs easier.

true locust
#

You did now nc red whit b move?

#

Lol how since i barrely got 5 sync no b move🤣

crude sandal
#

Me too, I got 5 syncs no B Move with Red

#

But holy damn, Silver is annoying with spamming 2 2-gauge moves

true locust
#

Lol i got alot miss

#

This should be like avoid 90%

crude sandal
#

How many seconds does sprint EX compensate?

#

@dry whale How many seconds left you got after doing Leaf's 5th sync?

dry whale
#

Not enough, it was nearly 3 seconds.

But I'm not sure how much time sprint ex would give

#

I also think it will probably throw circle out of wack. Meaning an extra miss to compensate for having to use it twice.

Already talking myself out of it.

true locust
#

Thank god i don’t need use leaf

#

Gloria my fire ace😁

dry whale
#

What's the estimate for Gloria this time around?

vernal condor
#

I honestly think 4.5m is on the table, more with great gears and 9/5 ofc (i don't think 10/5 helps unless you don't run leaf)

#

i'll candy NC Leaf, we'll see what i get

true locust
#

I think 5m i should easy score

dry whale
crude sandal
dry whale
#

Lol we have been asking that for like 3 months maybe more I can't even remember that last one we did.

vernal condor
#

high score should've been the one to be skipped, not LG LarryDead

#

but im still good on deluxe

frail owl
#

they can't sell units with LG, at least not right away, but new DC/HS always drop with new meta units
I'm not competitive at all and still run out of deluxe cookies

brazen escarp
#

Not bad considering it's 1/5

true locust
#

Lg is gone.

#

I have 1003 delux cookies so im fine for long time

#

Plus other delux i have 1200+ each

#

Maybe from guild events we get them or they add them in villa or trainig arena

#

Or no if next update they don’t bring delux cookies some way back low chance they apear soon

brazen escarp
#

how the hell do u have 1000+ cookkies

true locust
#

Lg score 150 wins always

#

And farm cookies too

#

After last lg i got 1300+ delux

#

And 300+ was spend on dc

brazen escarp
#

damn

true locust
#

Since i was most delux bronze spend on lg or hse stuff like mind games

#

Gold delux befor dc i never use

#

Just like status immunity on 1/3 units

#

Since crit 2 was for lg / hse better any way

#

Then sp3

#

Dc make need he 1 and sp3

#

Thank we still use same chase nc blue. Only now lillie join so no need roll for he1 only sp3 is need if new unit is meta for dc

scenic grotto
#

Are any of the Mix units able to get 1 million damage in Damage Challenge stages?

thick stump
#

If any of them were able to, I feel like cheren would have the best bet

#

Evasion strats, self SEUN, can lower sp def

vernal condor
scenic grotto
thick stump
#

I saw damage challenge thread and forgot what mix units were

brazen escarp
#

Is this decent?

pallid girder
#

Use Melony not zone user.

#

1/5 Red is 1M-able.

brazen escarp
#

It's around 200k for some reason

brazen escarp
#

Mine isn't

pallid girder
#

Oh yeah didn't notice that. If not ex dps spam is prob better.

dire spade
#

Neat damage

brazen escarp
#

Damn

cloud timber
#

if i redid my 2/5 2m run at 3/5 it seemed like it'd be 5.7m by my calcs, seems a bit high so idk how accurate that is

#

but if i actually could that'd be wild

#

need 9 more strike coins tho

#

maybe this mode really is that dead

#

but also i got pretty nice rng that i couldn't replicate bc i tried to bc i didn't get a recording

crude sandal
#

Time for Leon to be the unbeatable damage dealer la- Oh wait WEEZing

unborn otter
#

What no adr and hs1 with cs2 does to a mf LarryDead

#

I did better with nc blue and melony

cloud timber
#

one more sync wouldn't make that look not low tbh, are you getting 10 smun before every sync

crude sandal
#

Unless they used X Sp. Atk. All: Team Smart Command 9 from Chase

cloud timber
#

red can technically accomplish it on his own but chase or blue make it easier, lillie's is unnecessary

#

dc blue doesn't add any at all

unborn otter
#

I copied batman’s grid for chase

pallid girder
#

Blizzard first then TM you get 5~7 SMUN.
This is most ppl do wrong.

sacred badger
#

Okay

unborn otter
#

That’s what i did

sacred badger
#

DC with SS Gio Alt, NC Serena and............. Redlax? o_O!?

pallid girder
#

If you TM first then Blizzard you waste all SMUN NC Red apply on himself.

crude sandal
#

Did you do Blizzard first then Red's TM?

#

Ok

unborn otter
#

Do i even use lillie b move

crude sandal
#

Besides Chase's circle

unborn otter
#

Chase xspatkall

crude sandal
#

Team Smart Command, hmmmm

pallid girder
#

The 6M score used Lillie's bmove, but most ppl don't have the time.

unborn otter
#

I dont think so

#

Unless batman’s grid has it

#

For chase

crude sandal
#

I think batman didn't have it because of Lillie

unborn otter
#

Oh

crude sandal
#

Lillie has +2 SpMUN stacks when syncing at her 3/5 grid

cloud timber
#

yea you didn't track 10 smun

crude sandal
#

Team Smart Command would make up for it

#

@unborn otter At the end, did you use Red's Blizzard or B Move?

cloud timber
#

my run didn't get last blizzard under kanto circle so it coulda been improved that way

unborn otter
#

How do i fit in lillie b move or should i ignore it

crude sandal
#

That depends on your dodge luck

cloud timber
#

generally if you have like 25? seconds before last sync you can fit in lillie b move

#

if you can't then don't bother, not worth dropping an extra sync to fit it in

crude sandal
#

Well, I ended up in the top 50

unborn otter
crude sandal
#

Welp, time for bunny

unborn otter
#

No b move

#

What’s next?

crude sandal
unborn otter
#

3v1?

#

And which soccer bunny

#

/hj

sacred badger
#

huh

unborn otter
#

V marnie and gloria alt has scorbunny

cloud timber
#

roughly what i thought

cursive linden
#

A good amount of para and Chase's dodges

#

Managed to use b move twice in a row at the end

crude sandal
#

Damn it man, I actually got lucky, but I got too cocky in using Lillie's B Move

#

Also realizing it now, it was redundant to do it anyways since it will hit the damage cap

true locust
#

Leon i got 3,6m

crude sandal
unborn otter
true locust
#

But not bad leon only sad no room for super for 1 move

#

But 3,6m is ok

#

If use burn

hard sleet
crude sandal
true locust
#

Yeap gloria tank

#

Most funny she avoid most moves but got hit in the end when its not matter it all🤣

#

Gloria is tru fire ace😆 haha

cursive linden
#

1/5 NO EXR

#

Yeah, i can see why this man's in UBER tier Damage Dealer

violet crag
#

first try let's go

dusk plume
#

Do raised stats counter lowered stats for Power Play multiplier?

crude sandal
#

No

dusk plume
#

so +2 speed shouldn't affect damage as long as I have -18 total on the other stats, right?

crude sandal
#

Yes

#

But Leaf already does -24 total stats

dusk plume
#

got it, thanks

dusk plume
crude sandal
#

Use Leer 3 times and B Move

dusk plume
#

b move before 1st leaf sync, not at the end?

sacred badger
#

Is it time?

cloud timber
#

i wouldn't say so unless you like gloria that much over the rest of your options

sacred badger
#

Hrm. Welp lets dance.

crude sandal
#

No Chase I assume

sacred badger
#

I have chase

#

3R even

crude sandal
#

Without superawakened Gloria, NC Leaf is better

cloud timber
#

^

#

oh man i'm hitting orb cap as soon as i redeem all my rally orbs

#

annoying

#

and then we have super sparring in a couple days

crude sandal
#

On Friday

cloud timber
#

yea

sacred badger
#

Didnt have cs2. Cool.

#

I can go higher then

#

Lel. Aight lets try

dusk plume
crude sandal
sacred badger
#

Lol they got burned wwww

#

For 1k eh

#

Ill take it

dusk plume
#

what's NC Leaf's ceiling? I assume it'll be with H Lillie team?

cloud timber
#

might prefer dc blue with chase

dusk plume
#

what's the advantage of DC blue besides kanto theme? since he doesn't have support EX buff

cloud timber
#

befuddle 1 at 3/5

#

second support ex isn't extremely important

crude sandal
#

Finally got the luck I wanted, I just wished my Chase was 5/5 for Mind Games 9

#

BTW, this run had a Lillie B Move in it

pallid girder
crude sandal
#

Well, Lillie is a sprint/support unit, so she's actually very good here even if it means losing the Kanto Analysis bonus

#

And she spams too

cloud timber
#

i mean adam admitted dc blue was better just more rng heavy

#

if i had 3/5 nc red and batman's gears things would look different for sure

#

but idk if i'll ever grind out gear that much

vagrant ivy
#

we should run calcs, it is trading supp EX for 10% extra on circle after all

crude sandal
#

Well you have better gauge with Sing as opposed to Thunder Wave

pallid girder
#

Theory is always theoretical in the end.
I tend to only believe in what ppl really achieved until I'm proven wrong.

vast glade
true locust
#

Whit dc blue i would do 6,5m if got 5 sync and blizzard on circle. But is big rng

vast glade
#

Hearing she does more than AS Leon makes me happy as I can't invest on him now

true locust
#

H lillie is nice since way less rng need.

#

Leon is good for aoe

#

Leon would be the best only if his sync was not about burn

#

Then you could use chase and h lillie and score 5m easy

vast glade
#

Can you post Varnie's and GloriAlt's grid, please?

crude sandal
true locust
#

She have he1 but you if have good rng don’t need it

#

Since i got like 10 second left best rng

vast glade
#

Thanks!

crude sandal
true locust
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I use 6 extra only energy

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Similar but im go left side and no attack extra

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Its my

acoustic chasm
crude sandal
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Anyone tried SS May?

plush palm
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w/ or w/o sa

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?

crude sandal
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With now

vernal condor
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glorialt try to para challenge (impossible)

brazen escarp
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Lol

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I mean u gotta get that luck

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(or just use bp barry)

vernal condor
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lol no

true locust
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My gloria have no issue para😁

crude sandal
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Can anyone give me 5/5 Chase pls. TabithaHehe

vast glade
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Given my NC Leaf isn't EXR that was a good outcome for a test run

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Will try Varnie and GloriAlt next

sacred flower
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do you even use Lillie B move?

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I think her B move wasted so much time

vernal condor
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it's 11~12sec long

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if you don't have enough time to fit in another sync you might as well use it

cloud timber
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and if you can fit in another sync you do that

crude sandal
scenic grotto
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Just had to use NC Leaf’s B Move before her first sync
With sun extension having her first sync be the third sync (after H Lillie and RedLax), sun managed to last for the whole battle

crude sandal
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This might be a little late, but this is an interesting team with 3/5 Sina
https://youtu.be/o2aBe2vNni0?si=cIOI2u94sipgXdX4

I know everyone and their grandmother is using NC Red, but Sina is a very viable ice striker with a lot of acceleration. She has plenty of fun uses, and this DC is one of them! +6 evasiveness, sprint, and acceleration on berry drop and TM gives a lot of options to accelerate the countdown.

I got about 2.2M with Irida as a partner. Since Sina c...

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important note in desc

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H Jasmine probably not the best here either. I bet with good gears and the ideal combo even 3/5 Sina could get 3M.

plush palm
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best gloria alt team i can come up w/

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gonna test after grabbing tacos

crude sandal
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@true locust Ok bro calm down

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Geez 6.25M with Glorialt

true locust
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I still can improve😘

crude sandal
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Can reach 7M? JK

true locust
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I like use gloria its super fun

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No but 6,3/6,4m yes

crude sandal
true locust
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Max move not crit

pallid girder
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6M is 10/5 right?

crude sandal
true locust
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Yes my is 10/5

vast glade
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Need to improve. Guess it's move order?

true locust
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From fight dc

vast glade
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Mine is 4/5

true locust
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Gloria is super good

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Can be use on 3 dc stage

crude sandal
true locust
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And also easy solo cs 3000 fly

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Just walk in park

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Even normal one

crude sandal
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After candying SS Hilbert and Dexio, I'm gonna get Gloria superawakened

true locust
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Fubert suks

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Dexio too

crude sandal
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(:

true locust
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Gloria is way better

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You have alot use

crude sandal
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I got her last time, but I haven't candied her yet

true locust
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3 dc stage

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Its something

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And can use on aoe and 3 vs 1

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So we can say 6 stage

crude sandal
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I guess it's to compensate me not having NC Hop

crude sandal
true locust
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Hop its worst score then super gloria

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Rei score and gloria super will be similar but 5/5 rei

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Super rei score more

crude sandal
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Rei's best team is NC Rosa and who else?

true locust
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Nc blue was

crude sandal
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How much does SSA Cynthia and NC Rosa score?

vast glade
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By the way the best time to use GloriAlt's Max move is when? Before she syncs? Or before?

crude sandal
vast glade
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Wonder if 3 million is all a nonSA GloriAlt can do...

crude sandal
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Does your Glorialt have Slippery Slope?

vast glade
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Yes

true locust
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Gloria max move you can use any time

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But best befor she sync

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Since more damage will be

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After 2 sup syncs

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vast glade
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@true locust do you use Lillie's B-move?

crude sandal
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Because Gloria will hit the damage cap easily

vast glade
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Ah, maybe that's my major blunder. I keep using it

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I assume we save Varnie's b-move as the finisher right?

plush palm
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first attempt

vast glade
# crude sandal Yes

Thanks. Might try it again later. I think only last thing is mastering the timing to use bounce and evade play rough

plush palm
true locust
plush palm
plush palm
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idk how to push above 2m

vagrant ivy
vernal condor