Damage Challenge

[crude sandal]

I just wished Gloria would have tech EXR so that no Lear for next ranked DC

[fallen trail]

True...

[crude sandal]

What was NC Red's best score on ice 3v3?

[pallid girder]

Dena: give Gloria sprint.

[quaint timber]

omg 11/10 idea

[long silo]

Rival

[crude sandal]

Oops, all Lear

[royal jolt]

4.2M, per the doc

[pallid girder]

I'm sure NC Red reached 5M. 4M is just the highest with video recording.

[royal jolt]

Yes

[dry whale]

You mean summited video recording

I'm sure he did hit 5. I hit 4.5m and was pushing for the 5 but RNG said no. Holiday Lillie will mitigate some of that RNG needed by giving more time. I also have better gear now for champions so the goal now is 6m if it looks possible

[crude sandal]

When to use Lillie's B Move anyways?

Also the best I can do, maybe for now

@royal jolt Adrenaline instead of at least CS2 for Wally?

[royal jolt]

I used Adrenaline 1, yes

[crude sandal]

And why did you use Disarming Voice instead of Lillie's B Move? You would've scored more

[royal jolt]

Idk
The recorded run was literally my first try because I fell asleep before reset :)

I know there's room for improvement ^^

[crude sandal]

I see

[royal jolt]

Also, I do remember that moment, I think

I wanted to fish for the Interference Sync. But, I don't think I got it

[crude sandal]

I think no Interference Sync is the strat

Skipping got 3.89M without IS5

[royal jolt]

It does slow you down, huh?
It does kind of suck that my gear is interference-focused

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, kind of in a dilemma here of which is better between Critastrophe 2% and Unscathed S-Moves 4%

Not sure if it's worth making Chase get hit for healing to re-up Unscathed S-Moves 4%

[royal jolt]

If you're gonna go out of your way to make Unscathed work, I'd take Critastrophe

[cloud timber]

if you have 10/5 ss wally interference sync looks like it'd run into damage cap

[feral hamlet]

Fairy single target is by far my lowest score among all DC. But I have important Fairy types now. Any good options now?

[cloud timber]

probably want ss wally on and i don't think you have any other option worth using to nuke harder

[feral hamlet]

Just tried the typical team comp with SS Wally on third. 200k

[cloud timber]

i'm assuming you used level 119 ss wally and didn't level him up

[feral hamlet]

Yes, but he also doesn't do anything relevant at 1/5

[feral hamlet]

I think I can still use him on the team I used last time for better effect

[plush palm]

700k possible

[feral hamlet]

Oh, Chase is dodge RNG, isn't he?

[vagrant ivy]

yes

very much so

[cloud timber]

are you going to use that as another excuse to neglect the other thousand things you're missing out on doing

[feral hamlet]

Chase is fun, but I don't even have him EX yet, so I don't think I can do that yet

[cloud timber]

yeah not bad at all to stick to nc blue

[royal jolt]

Sadly, I do not have 10/5 SS Wally

[crude sandal]

Mine's only 5/5

[royal jolt]

Mine sits at 3/5

[cloud timber]

point being with mentioning 10/5 is that since damage cap is an issue it doesn't necessarily translate to best strategy at non-awakened levels

i should try a single lillie b move run though

[pallid girder]

Zone and rebuff ARE at his base kit which is super relevant in dc.

[feral hamlet]

It just doesn't seem to matter when I don't have good enough fairy units to actually make use of it

I'm going through all my units and no one can beat 280k, which is worse than my previous best

[vagrant ivy]

might I suggest DPS spam with your conveniently placed 3/5 diantha?

[pallid girder]

? Are you lacking of drinks or books somehow? Otherwise I don't see the reason not just level him up.

[feral hamlet]

I tried that before and again just now. There is no damage reaching the 6 digits ever. Even at EXR

[cloud timber]

still not feeling like dropping is5 is the strat even if you get to grid the +20 spa, with h lillie around at least

could probably get it to compete if you grinded it out to an equal rng level as runs i did or something

but i could also still just get a run with more is5 syncs

since one of them wasn't under confusion

9/5 has +130 sync bp on 3/5

[feral hamlet]

I think this might be it. Same as the 3 target team, but a third of the score

[quaint timber]

can finally reply to this after testing it out - he can, but he needs broken skill gears (like 30%+ sync bonus damage or smth)

[scarlet ivy]

Is Lillie EX support?

Also I feel Lillie EX makes a big difference lol

[royal jolt]

Yes

[scarlet ivy]

As in ex supp

Mine isn't ex supp and so I only cap at 1.3k

[royal jolt]

You mean EXR support?

She's a sprint with support as her EX role

[scarlet ivy]

Yeah, exr

I have an exr wally that's 5/5

But my Lillie is only ex with no r

And I'm capping at 1.3 with things going right

So I'm wondering

[royal jolt]

Well, that's an entire sync buff missing, so it might also affect some things

To be truthful, not even I know how I got my score. Someone suggested that maybe a para proc was necessary, so there's that

[scarlet ivy]

Now I regret putting my support cake on Emmet and it being completely useless

Lol

Also nice to see a fellow Lisia stan here

[royal jolt]

You can always get her EXR next month with the exchange reset :)

I'm gonna make it a priority to candy NC Silver (finally) for strike, Dahlia for tech, and SS Mina for support

Sprint and field are kinda on their own. Idk what's going on there

[brazen escarp]

Oh btw my barry is not exed

[royal jolt]

Nvm, I managed to get her EXR, lol

[fluid anvil]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=78541076#gid=78541076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKO0ZFlV_RE

[vapid kernel]

Will be higher with Lillie

[true locust]

Score will be same

Just more easy do it

You still get same sync

[fluid anvil]

DC blue is kanto, so he boosts Chases circle by 0.1

[vagrant ivy]

but you are also giving up supp ex

[pallid girder]

And possible SEUP on last sync.

[vapid kernel]

Ye thats what Lillie does

Also Lillie can give an extra support sync , not rely on Chase TM and give last sync SE up

And boost last Blizzard with her Speed up passive

And even give Red extra +2 SMUN but dont know if thts needed

[true locust]

You have no time for lilie b move

Sup sync will give more then dc blue for kanto circle

[prisma quail]

Why... Am i so bad at this mode.

I hate DC lol

The only thing i messed up (that i know) was not using a SEUN moonblast from primarina right at the end, instead using a regular dazzling gleam from wallygarde

Both wally and lillie are caked

[royal jolt]

Well, I never used a Moonblast from Lillie at all

It was all just sing spam to the end. I only used one Lillie B move near the end

[prisma quail]

I would only use the Moonblast because there wasnt enough time to hit another sync

I had like 12 seconds left after the last sync, and due to animation times i should have hit moonblast before dazzling gleam for a tiny bit more damage.

But you doubled mine

[royal jolt]

Think you could record a run? There's obviously something wrong here

[prisma quail]

Head start on Zapdos, CS2 on wally, and... Either adrenaline or head start on primarina. I forget

Sync primarina once, then all wallygarde

[royal jolt]

I used Adrenaline 1 on Wally

The idea behind it was you get -6 countdown, then you use Wally's B move and Lillie's B move to get the last -3 for another sync

[prisma quail]

I will say that i didnt have flinch/fuse/trap active for the sync tile on wally, for most syncs.

I assumed it was not worth trying to trigger because of rng

[royal jolt]

It certainly doesn't sound like a good idea because it does slow you down

I posted the run, in case you wanna have a look

https://youtu.be/yKZKdsJglGk?si=xsHFsNzCU3cZOZd9

[prisma quail]

Thanks

I will, because i have the same team +1 wally dupe.

I should be over 1.5 million

[royal jolt]

I forgot about SE5 on Dazzling Gleam, lmao

[prisma quail]

Ok, so you DO use zapdos sync (first, with the -sdef grid tile)

[royal jolt]

Yes, you usually sync with your supports first to build up your damage

[prisma quail]

I always do 1 support ex sync first, but sometimes the second support sync feels like it can slow down the fight unless its dual Support/Sprint combo

So i skipped the zapdos sync on my attempt. Ill try again with that

[icy pendant]

hm my Wally has not heard of critting his syncs apparently

[royal jolt]

It's not too slow if your spam is even decent
From Blue's sync to Lillie's was was a gap of only 20 seconds

[prisma quail]

I usually look for around 21-22 seconds with sing spam to sync

Below 18 seconds, i dont expect to get another sync

[royal jolt]

Just give it a go with your proper support syncs and see what changes :)

And don't forget zone!

[prisma quail]

Should have been 1.4 million, based on last few seconds.

But still, much better!

Actually, probably would have been like 1.5-1.6 million.

I accidentally went back into sing spam afte the final sync instead of hitting a move that did damage lol

I think 1.6 is achievable for me.

I hate DC though lol.

I'm just glad Shiny Primarina appeared to me with so few pulls. Sing span supp/sprint is so nice

[cloud timber]

https://youtu.be/v5PG1iz8rtc?si=4LC1gpzsNnweBJMM too lazy to submit this to doc esp bc it's not my best run but cs2 on lillie

this one applies directly to 1/5 lillie minus a bit of the raw output, pb uses gobsmack which is 2/5

basically fit in all 3 of lillie's b moves and provide seun for wally's last two syncs

oh and with no chase you have to grind out for one para proc

lyndis got 2.2m with nc blue though

[scenic grotto]

Still mulling over how to improve my score
My dilemma is that I have the units to reach 1m damage but I don’t want to spend additional candies or cake for just one stage
Especially with how I am low on support cake and sprint candy

Same issue with ice
I have SS N from a triple banner when going for SS Hilda but I don’t want to invest only for ice weak DC stages

[vapid kernel]

Start by using sing spam strat

And drop Wally for the paralyser

[cloud timber]

also min/mid speed always help with fitting in as many syncs as possible when you use it to minimize delay between consecutive sings but also reduces the cost of misplays and stuff

[scenic grotto]

I did try that with Redlax but the score was lower than using SS Wally for Fairy debuff and Fairy zone
I even tried replacing SS Nemona with 3/5 EXR V Calum but he didn’t get a higher score

[cloud timber]

i do suspect that team can't be improved with your roster

i feel like support cake on lillie should be top priority for anyone with any continued interest in this mode, not sure what else people are using their tickets on

[scenic grotto]

My H Lillie already has cake

[cloud timber]

aight good

shame it's still impossible to tell from a screenshot of the small icon

[scenic grotto]

This is basically my fairy roster (along with NC Blue and RedLax)
I do have the material to get 1 million damage
Just very hesitant to spend extra material because my brain views it as bad investment

[cloud timber]

if you use calem as damage dealer it's prob better to run chase or nc blue instead of wally

bc he gets his zone utility taken away so it's just hogging an entire sync to apply rebuff

guess it still helps with mult setup but eh you can still do better

[vapid kernel]

Calem nuke is probably good enough for 1M

Calem, Lillie and a paralyser, preferably NC Blue who max out Calem stats

[scenic grotto]

Cool, I’ll try that, thanks 🙂

[vapid kernel]

Used together with Lillie SE up btw

[cloud timber]

have you tried this grid yet

could technically help to grab the speed tile on the left instead

[scenic grotto]

This was my first attempt grid the other day

[cloud timber]

one less charm is much better than adr

[scenic grotto]

Fair enough

A-HAH!!!

Thank you!
That’s one less worry off my mind 🙂

[cloud timber]

gg

[scenic grotto]

Thanks 🙂

[plush palm]

huh is nemona that good

only status unit there is lillie so is tthat a dps clear

[scenic grotto]

https://youtu.be/Mk92obmdwX0?si=x2lzqprZzmvEMT0w

Too bad this video isn’t on the Google Sheets of recorded clears
Mainly because the person who made the video would need to submit it themselves

https://youtu.be/pNUTeNU6Th0?si=JOl8a-GMWzXd-XaM

[spiral fog]

You can submit for them if you want. The doc doesn't require the owner themselves to submit, only require a video and a pomatool link.

[scenic grotto]

Well I think the video contains everything it needs for a submission
About to go to sleep so either I’ll see if I can make my own submission tomorrow or someone else can make the submission if they wish

[teal haven]

https://tenor.com/view/uncut-gems-adam-sandler-this-is-how-i-win-smile-gif-16038071

[acoustic chasm]

Second pin could have better stats
Go gamble more

[teal haven]

but then I lose the 2nd sync+5%

also Im out of feathers

[crude sandal]

Too bad there isn't a single Unova fairy damage dealer

[teal haven]

Eh that one's just the cherry on top I'll be fine

[spiral halo]

👀
https://x.com/sodium07338972/status/1879133500898775266?s=46

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ミツルが技1なのでビートで260万
リーリエのレベル上げてればその残り133pt足りたんじゃない？とか言わない

X · Jan 14, 2025, 11:48 AM

[sacred badger]

madness

[cursive linden]

238k on Hol. Lillie means they only use her b move once

Or twice, since that's 2/5 and has no access to Ramming Speed

[pseudo stag]

Is it me or do the numbers in jp use a different font

[crude sandal]

They do

[hard sleet]

Bea can what

What’s his SA score goodness

[royal jolt]

That's how I remember Bede exists again!

[feral hamlet]

There. 1M. I had to 3/5 SS Wally for it. But it's fine since I desperately needed any Fairy sync nuker at all. Not EXR yet.

[crude sandal]

Those levels of yours are pretty unsettling

[cloud timber]

they are

[pallid girder]

I don't understand why willing to use candies but not level up drinks & books?

[pseudo stag]

They forgor, probably

[cloud timber]

it keeps happening and not a single other person has this issue so it's something worse

[vagrant ivy]

idk I think books are very easy to get, I have 22k 4 star books just from doing lodge

though I do keep a small batch of mostly irrelevant 4 star pairs underleveled for the daily level up a sync pair mission

[scenic grotto]

How do I submit to the DC google sheet?

[pseudo stag]

It's in the pinned messages

[scenic grotto]

Thanks

[normal parcel]

But Lillie doesn't have tech ex, so I guess if both 1/5 wally sync should still be a bit stronger due to higher spatk and higher BP with tech ex

However with both Lillie and wally I suggest to alternate so 1 Lillie b move can give seun for 2 syncs

(assuming both 1/5)

[pseudo stag]

The pins for damage challenge, not help and resources

[scenic grotto]

I don’t see any

Wait, nvm, found them

[warped gulch]

Setting

[scenic grotto]

Sorry

[pseudo stag]

Grats

[scenic grotto]

Yep, my bad ^^;

[teal haven]

also in user settings->appearance you can choose the dark theme

[pseudo stag]

Why would anyone want to do that?

• UI designer for TCG Pocket, probably

[scenic grotto]

You can’t prove I use light theme (mwahaha)

[pseudo stag]

Dw I saved receipts

[scenic grotto]

[vapid kernel]

Ice triple soon

I shall break new records with 3/5 chase and lillie

[thick stump]

i will forever hate fairy dc purely for i will always try to hit the 10% miss gladion fleur cannon and drive myself insane in the process

i've had runs where ive missed like the starting few fleur cannons back to back but i can never miss the post sync one

[sturdy pebble]

I decided to preview the highest score for the next DC

Chinese social media website jumpscare

[sacred badger]

waitwhat

[plush palm]

weibo?

[vagrant ivy]

mainland chinese players exist?

[vapid kernel]

More proof that Gladion sucks

[vapid kernel]

Im sure there are

[sturdy pebble]

It takes you to a site called Bilibili

[spiral halo]

Ah yes the chinese youtube

[vagrant ivy]

oh boy time to see if 1/5 nc red beats hala in tomorrow's triple ice dc

[plush palm]

irida should def beat hala

even in 3v1

i accidentally candyed the wrong ice tech to 3/5 lol

iridia instead of vhilbert

gotta wonder if hes better now

assuming you have smth to debuff spatk

[pallid girder]

Irida is not good in dc. 1M-able but barely.
Ofc she'll outdo Hala in 3v1 tho since she's a tech while Hala striker.

[plush palm]

i dont have a better option atm

besides hala who sucks

gonna gice her a shot anyways bc mind is exr

[ivory kestrel]

Finally, i got all 3* Medals

[plush palm]

congrats

[ivory kestrel]

Pulled V-Calem on a daily, decided to invest on him (coz of lack of Penny and SS Wally). No regrets at all!

Wait… could H-Lillie gotten the 1M as main damage?

[plush palm]

yep

its been done

[vapid kernel]

Yes

1.5M+

[royal jolt]

80% sync crit, my beloathed

[icy pendant]

my best Wally run is still missing three sync crits because I haven’t grinded it out yet

early missed crit + last two didn’t crit = easy 2 million

[royal jolt]

I'm trying a strategy that wants interference, but these stupid crits are not working with me

[icy pendant]

Yeah I don’t have Interference Sync gridded, maybe I do want that but I don’t know if 66 energy can get it all

[royal jolt]

It should be

[royal jolt]

THERE IT IS

I just did a run that had THREE para procs

And Wally didn't confuse even once. I'm so freaking mad

[crude sandal]

And this is why I don't grid IS5 on him

[royal jolt]

This is probably as good as it's gonna get. I got three syncs with interference + Fairy Zone. I must've not crit one or something

[crude sandal]

Too bad your Lillie isn't 3/5 for Gobsmack

Or was it 2/5 for it?

[royal jolt]

Sounds like a 2/5 thing

But, I'm unsure if that'd help because Wally has Gobsmack 4 and Gobsmack 2 on grid

[royal jolt]

2.5M is very reachable. Idk if I wanna subject myself to the grind again, though

[royal jolt]

+feathers

[wispy pagoda]

Skill Feathers Classification:

Red Feather: Focus on Move damage Passives.
Pink Feather: Focus on Sync Moves damage Passives.
Blue Feather: Focus on Defensive Passives.

Green Feather: Mix of Red/Pink/Blue with added focus on Status & Interference Passives.
Purple Feather: Mix of Red/Pink/Blue with added focus on Weather passives.
White Feather: Mix of everything with bigger focus on Type Themes but with lesser stats.
Yellow Feather: Mix of everything with no particular focus.

Rainbow Feather: Fixed stats & passives tailor made for a specific pair.

[cloud timber]

it's really difficult to get wally's confusion to last long into final syncs so if you do have 2/5 lillie it helps make the rng manageable

[royal jolt]

I just roll for confusion just before I sync

I got lucky and got only one turn of confusion before it wore off

[cloud timber]

that sounds... unlucky?

[royal jolt]

Not at all
It was: Disarming Voice > Sync > Opponent uses move

And it wears off by the second move

I do not want it to last until another sync because of the animation that plays when you're confused

[cloud timber]

do you use disarming voice more than once

[royal jolt]

Yes

[cloud timber]

surprised it's worth it

[royal jolt]

Me too, actually

Also, para procs help even more

Tried rolling a good gear for Red and got nothing

There go my feathers
Again

[cloud timber]

i've been avoiding using feather trick but i prob will start soon

[royal jolt]

I just find them neat. But, I think I'll have to stop and hard focus on saving. I've only got three rally passes left and I suck with luck

I hate how this doesn't include circle

[thick stump]

Got higher than I did with sync spamming

Finally got the miss

[cloud timber]

well there's a proper run finally, even got in fairy zone for first sync

[royal jolt]

Nice!

Still no interference? Or?

[cloud timber]

full interference, confusion for every sync, the one from wally's b move wore off before the end but lillie covered that

landed every crit too

might have missed lillie's but that's fine

[royal jolt]

GGs

[vapid kernel]

@quaint timber im curious what gears u used for that 16%

[true locust]

Nice gear

[cloud timber]

https://youtu.be/AM1NqA16974?si=TAk01EIO5IxY7Uva

[vapid kernel]

yalls what color feather is the best for rolling Opponent Paralysed: S move ^ %

or Status condition idc

[true locust]

Pink

[scenic grotto]

Ice tomorrow

[royal jolt]

NC Red and Sina are ready

[scenic grotto]

Hala and H Lillie combo

[cloud timber]

nc red 2/5 with hala prob won't be much better than dc gladion for field ex ice zone so have to run 2/5 nc red as damage dealer

chase and melony or dc blue can work

melony could potentially be worth over h lillie just for max move

[dense gate]

Ice type theme skills also help

I’m lacking Irida, so I was also gonna pair NC Red with Chase and Melony

[crude sandal]

Red better

[scenic grotto]

I do wonder what units would benefit from there being a Support unit that has
-can max an ally or team attack by +6 and crit by +3 in 1 turn
-is able to paralyse the opponent turn 1 (even if you need to reset for para)

And yes, I am basically talking about a physical version of NC Blue seeing how Arc Steven can’t para the opponent

What physical attackers might potentially get 1m on ST or MT but currently can’t because they need 3 or more turns to max their own attack and crit?

[clever wasp]

Ugh

[sacred badger]

Ice Multi soon?

[proud minnow]

Next reset to be exact

[upbeat bluff]

Okay, is there a fairy team that uses SS Gladion but DOESN'T use Wally, Penny, or Xmas Lillie?

[lone pond]

ss gladion isn't really a single target unit and those three are like the premier fairy st dps and support so uhhh

[upbeat bluff]

Oh, derp, misread things.

For some resaon, I thought it was a strike mission

well, who works as a partner for Pal. Serena?

Not many teams on the sheet use her and I don't have anything better.

[rain copper]

Are you able to replicate the comp with highest score? If yes, just do it

[royal jolt]

Yeah
But, I also wanna try her :)

[upbeat bluff]

...The highest comp has freaking Super Awakening, how many people can replicate that?

[rain copper]

I meant Pal Serena's comps

[upbeat bluff]

Unless you're talking about the highest comp with Pal. Serena, in which case, still no, I don't have Xmas Lillie, I just said that.

[rain copper]

How about trying Melony

[upbeat bluff]

I just did, didn't even break 500k.

[rain copper]

Something definitely went wrong

I highly recommend watching the recorded gameplay

[icy pendant]

Can you stack a +10 SMUN B Fleur Cannon with Gladion? That may very easily outscore PalSerena

[pseudo stag]

What are the odds of that happening

[icy pendant]

The odds of what, hitting the damage cap with Gladion's B move? He's done it before in 3v3

[pseudo stag]

No i mean hitting the SMUN cap with fleur missing

[upbeat bluff]

For one, which one?

[icy pendant]

first B Fleur doesn't need first Fleur to miss

[upbeat bluff]

went for sync on Blue and Melonie first.

Since... well, there's really not much Pal. Serena can do on her own, damage wise, she needs all she can get.

I think I got 3 sync moves out of Pal. Serena from there.

I'm... really not sure what I'm supposed to look up, video wise, either. None of htem really shows my team.

[warped gulch]

Remember not everyone have time to record every single comp

Look at 1 Pal Serena team, look how they handle her multiplier and try to do that with your roster

[rain copper]

Melony functions the same as Holiday Lillie except she doesnt have to use B Move occasionally

[plush palm]

her mults are inertia + para

she shouldnt hVe problems on a nc blue comp

[upbeat bluff]

Just checekd, she doesn't get a sync move boost for paralysis.

Just on her moves.

Her only boost is Inertia.

[icy pendant]

her innate is paralysis

[upbeat bluff]

Ah.

But yeah, that is what I got.

[umbral sleet]

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_FAIRY:967452395686756392> <:GROUP_SYNC:967457975612637265> Semisweet Fairy Beam

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
This attack's power increases when the target is paralyzed.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Serena (Palentine's 2021) & Whimsicott

[upbeat bluff]

I don't know what to tell you.

[spiral halo]

Unoptimized run + missed one sync crit and def can be higher

[plush palm]

is chase a option

[spiral halo]

Last batch with Chase she can reach 1m+ easily, there was a video too but idk how to search in here

[upbeat bluff]

I have Chase at 3/5 at laset but...

[pallid girder]

Congraz SS Wally hit 4M finally.

[warped gulch]

Chase + Blue + Serena can work

Bc Serena can spam herself

And Chase helps gauge problem with his Tm too

[plush palm]

feels like you have better options than blue in that case

like a zone setter or a sc steven

[warped gulch]

SC steven might be better

[sacred badger]

Palentines Serena gaming?

i managed to get her + holiday lillie to 1.2m 😮

[lusty galleon]

fighting 3v3 coming in, right

[icy pendant]

Ice first then fighting next weekend

[plush palm]

gotta wonder if anyone ever did nuker bianca

[lusty galleon]

oh, we didn't get ice 3v3 yet?

thought it was already done

[long silo]

2m I remember

Gentle reminder (for myself again) to attempt to get Fighting gears

[pallid girder]

Ice 3 won't change much so it'll be boring (just some Sina showcase but NC red still winning)
The next next is more interesting coz it's Fire 1 and we'll see can Arc Leon outdo NC Leaf

[unborn otter]

Can you post grids?

[cloud timber]

grids are at the end of the vid

[unborn otter]

You got me. I didn’t watch the end

[cloud timber]

tbf they're not in 100% of the time but if it's a good enough run i'll do it

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, to use or not to use Lillie's B Move for Red later

[unborn otter]

I’m struggling with the confusion proccing from ultimate dazzling gleam

I lose

[dusty solar]

not worth grinding for the 30% chance imo, he gets 1m without interference sync

you get like 50 tickets for another million so whatever

[unborn otter]

[dusty solar]

unless you have an irl friend to compare score log high scores with…

or you superawaken somebody and want to try them out. thats the only time i’d worry about grinding above 1m

[cloud timber]

yea it's up to you whether you decide it's fun/worth it

but i would actually advise against trying to get the same rng i get

[unborn otter]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-oh-drat-oh-drats-meowth-drown-annoyed-pikachu-gif-2763533535051025990

[crude sandal]

I ended up at 33, not bad

[long silo]

For the first time, I am missing DC

[crude sandal]

Just 3x speed and let it roll

[long silo]

Too lazy

I'll make that up next week by tryharding on Fighting 3v3

[crude sandal]

Arctic one time

[spiral halo]

Making up today's missing vouchers with next week's

[loud cedar]

fun

[royal jolt]

Nice

[crude sandal]

Huh, you're slightly above me

How many syncs did you get?

[royal jolt]

Three with Red. Seven total

[crude sandal]

Huh, I got 5

[lethal siren]

Ice 3v3

[royal jolt]

Oh, nvm

I forget Blue isn't support, lol

Make that four with Red

[loud cedar]

replacement for chase?

[royal jolt]

At that point, just use the classic NC Blue and sing spam strat

[crude sandal]

How many SpMUN stacks on Red?

[loud cedar]

true..

[pallid girder]

Chase can get you easily 10 stacks.

[royal jolt]

Maxed

[crude sandal]

Well, I don't have X Sp. Atk. All: Team Smart Command 9 gridded on Chase

[pallid girder]

NC Blue prob need mp refresh?

[crude sandal]

So I ended up with 8 SpMUN on Red on the 1st usage of Kanto Analysis and 9 SpMUN on the 2nd

[cloud timber]

already better than hala, 8-9 smun

[lethal siren]

How do we manage thunder wave spam

[pallid girder]

Oh wait you can grid NC Red either TM and/or protect SMUN↑2
+3 from Blizzard +2 from TM innate +2~4 from the grid tiles.

[cloud timber]

oh and i didn't apply first rebuff

need to do that

[pallid girder]

Chase makes it work coz team speed + MGA.

[crude sandal]

And Chase has MGA when a circle activates

[cloud timber]

10 smun and got every sync i wanted

gauge was weird though, used full crit dire hit and blue tm near the end

[lusty galleon]

fellow 2/5 EX NC Red?

or is it with role

[cloud timber]

roled

[lusty galleon]

rip for me :T

[cloud timber]

1m mark is still safe

[lethal siren]

Chase grid for dc blue?

[grand oracle]

We do a bit of dps

[royal jolt]

Sina with my gears and setup lands around 2M I think

[sacred badger]

Busted

[royal jolt]

Damn
I forgot to finish his grid, lmao

[crude sandal]

That in itself looks fine if you exclude the Circle: MG 2

[royal jolt]

I could pick it up

[cursive mauve]

After millions of reset later, 5 Red syncs with SEUN on last sync is real

[grand oracle]

is 3 star leon the highest

[cloud timber]

yea it's just everything after 1m

[cursive mauve]

Yea

[grand oracle]

ooo ook

[plush palm]

good enough i guess

about the same as hala i guess

[lethal siren]

Is it fine or extension instead of smart command

[pseudo stag]

Is nc red's final attack his b move or blizzard in aoe dc?

[lethal siren]

Blizzard ig

Atleast with those special move next

[pseudo stag]

Crap I need to redo it

[royal jolt]

I opted for Blizzard because +10 SMUN

[pallid girder]

Yeah in 3v3 hitting 3 > hitting 1 in general.

[pseudo stag]

Increased my score by one ticket's worth of points

Profit!!

[crude sandal]

I got 5 syncs too, but how did you get it that high?

[cursive mauve]

I got SEUN for the last sync

[crude sandal]

Me too

But how were you higher?

[cursive mauve]

Did you have 10 SMUN stacks when you sync with him?

[pseudo stag]

Gear?

[cursive mauve]

Gear is also a factor

But my gear has like 8% sync multiplier

So not that big of a difference

[pseudo stag]

8% of 1 mil is 80k

[cursive mauve]

True

Maybe it’s just gear

[pallid girder]

Dmg roll is also a thing too.

[pseudo stag]

Gear issue and skill issue

[crude sandal]

No

[cursive mauve]

Ah so that’s another factor then

I had 10 SMUN stacks for all 5 syncs

[crude sandal]

So does that mean I have to grid Chase's X Sp. Atk. All: Team Smart Command 9?

[cursive mauve]

Yeah (or grid Lillie’s team SMUN on sync if you have her 3/5)

[crude sandal]

I have both right now

[cursive mauve]

Get the Lillie node and don’t get the X Sp.Atk team special command all

[vagrant ivy]

1/5 lmao

[crude sandal]

I got so many dodges and para procs

[royal jolt]

LMAO

Me when damage rolls

[crude sandal]

Also, I think I should've chosen the bracelet skill gear with Critastrophe instead of Opp Int or Status Cond: S-Moves Up 2%

[royal jolt]

If they're both 2%, yeah

[crude sandal]

Or Special S-Moves Up 2%

[scenic grotto]

That was a pain
Silver just would not stop freaking attacking
I would be ready to sync but uh-oh Silver got one last move stopping you from actually landing the final sync

At least I improved my best score

[crude sandal]

Now do a clear with Sina

[royal jolt]

Sure

Gimme a bit

Every time I hear that Defense drop on Crunch, I wanna rip my hair out

[crude sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-pokemon-masters-ex-pokemon-silver-pokespe-pokemon-hgss-gif-12331597574240438301

[royal jolt]

Anyway

No Soften Up 1 hurts

[scenic grotto]

Silver: check this out spams attacks
Me: I’m the one who spams moves! You’re not suppose to spam moves!

[crude sandal]

Also Silver: You bitter? Too bad

[royal jolt]

The funny thing is using the berry like a potion and getting that sweet -3 sync CD

[crude sandal]

It's 4/5

[royal jolt]

Yup

I should totally record a Sina run, though
I just did this one because I could

Lol
I hit a new best while recording

[teal haven]

I missed a crit or 2 but I'll take it

[royal jolt]

How do you get attack down?

[teal haven]

After blues sync I had N use freeze shock and Bmove once

Also gave a free SEUN without lillie

[crude sandal]

Doesn't N have Soften Up?

[royal jolt]

So, you were working with -2?

[teal haven]

?

[royal jolt]

Like, minus 2 Attack

Because you use his B move once

Unless you did some Attack down on Blue

[teal haven]

I gave up soften up for MPR

[scenic grotto]

Courtney, Gordie, and SS N
Units I could invest to get 1 million damage in Ground, Rock, and Ice weak stages
But I don’t want to invest in them because they will ONLY be used for Damage Challenge, thus not a smart use of resources

[teal haven]

N has a fairly high crit rate so soften up is kinda excessive

[royal jolt]

Two are spotlights
That kind of means they're not worth investment. At least in terms of candies to be distributed

[royal jolt]

All units at +3 crit have a high crit rate, 80%, on sync

It just makes the times you roll that 20% that much more annoying

[teal haven]

N is really good in general Id suggest using him

[royal jolt]

Or, be like me and roll NO CRITS on sync

+3 by the way

[scenic grotto]

True
Just that my limited options for ground and rock are
Ground: OG Cynthia, Maxie
Rock: Emmet, Paulo

As you can see, Cynthia, Emmet, and Paulo all want sandstorm, unviable field effect in DC

[teal haven]

I only missed 1/9 crits afaik, and it was on the first one, so I only lost like 70k damage (boohoo one or 2 tickets)

The real pain in the ass is rolling MPR and 3 paralyzes

[royal jolt]

Then you are on some super lucky rolls 🥹

[teal haven]

Hang in there

[royal jolt]

I'm lucky Red is 100% crit-rate

[teal haven]

So true

[crude sandal]

0.8% chance of that happening

[royal jolt]

True!
We hate MPR 2 and trying to AOE para all three

[royal jolt]

IT HAPPENED TO ME

TWICE

[vagrant ivy]

worse odds than master fair xd

[royal jolt]

I HATE IT HERE

[scenic grotto]

It would be amusing if Lodge Volo could get a higher score than OG Cynthia in ground weak DC stage (MT and/or ST)

[royal jolt]

Once in triple ghost for super sparring and another occasion I forget where exactly

[crude sandal]

And that's 0.0064% chance

[royal jolt]

OH

I remembered

As soon as I got Sina's EXR, I took her into CS and rolled an AOE non-crit sync

[vagrant ivy]

about as much as 1/5 will ever do

[teal haven]

I swear kimono grimsley has like a 20% crit rate I wanted to die steel 3v1 week

[crude sandal]

How many syncs?

[royal jolt]

Idk. It was super not serious. But, she was definitely at +3 crit

[royal jolt]

Kimono Grimsley is my GOAT

I managed to get 1M with him in triple steel

[crude sandal]

Next up is fire 3v1

[royal jolt]

Gloria

[teal haven]

I got 1m with him in 3v1 so I'd hope you did

[royal jolt]

Or Leaf

[scenic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-spy-tf2-correct-spy-tf2-correct-gif-15580627066749528135

[crude sandal]

And final chance to get her during that time

[royal jolt]

I'm using Leaf. I did super well with her before

[crude sandal]

It's either champion time or champion time, and I mean this in 2 ways

[royal jolt]

Oh

Right

Him

[teal haven]

Imagine losing to a 1hp Pikachu with a full strength fire blast

Couldn't be me

[royal jolt]

He lost to a nerd with a book

(I beat him with Lucian)

[teal haven]

Huh

[crude sandal]

Leaf got 4M as the best score IIRC, but let's see what he gets

[royal jolt]

Challenge those blessed by a deity

[crude sandal]

Also, I'm not sure if Ingo spam is effective here compared to in fire 3v3

[teal haven]

Oh I was referencing the anime

[royal jolt]

It seems no matter where he appears, he's a fraud

[teal haven]

I just think he's funny in the sense that he's a 10 y/o's pokemon OC

[crude sandal]

First he loses his unbeatable status, then he gets the highest score until he gets fucked over by some malasada boy from Alola

[scarlet ivy]

there was some 4k Sina build also

4m*

but yeah, I probably should EXR my Lillie just for this mode lol

[teal haven]

"I'd have like, all the starters and a Charizard. Oh and I've never lost cause I'm so good. Also I have a cool cape and lots of fans"

[vagrant ivy]

4k score? that’s a new record

[scarlet ivy]

typo

[royal jolt]

4M?? With Sina?
Gotta be crazy invested

[crude sandal]

10/5 I assume

Not 10/5, superawakening. And don't you dare tell me there's no difference

[teal haven]

Yeah at some point she has +6 SMUN, SEUN, and max stats after just her Tmove

Crazy to witness during the Rayquaza event thing

[long silo]

I will continue calling it 10/5

[scarlet ivy]

10/5, yes

[long silo]

or woke

[royal jolt]

The issue with her awakening is the Arctic Arrival

I hate HATE HATE entry zones

Why not "Berry MP 0: Ice Zone?"

As much as I do not like the berry gimmicks, they could at least use it

[vagrant ivy]

entry zones keep running out before the first sync

[scarlet ivy]

because blitz

they keep trying to make games fast

lol

[vagrant ivy]

pretty useless unless you are trying to blitz clear

but sina is a front heavy unit

[royal jolt]

I mean, in a regular battle, yes. It's fine, whatever

But, I care about DC more

[teal haven]

The woke left are censoring our superawakenings, will you let them?

[vagrant ivy]

in the end she still isn’t beating nc red

[royal jolt]

SuperAWOKENINGS

[royal jolt]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[crude sandal]

Depends

[true locust]

Finaly got my 5 red sync🤣

[crude sandal]

Hot damn

[royal jolt]

Gonna try SS N
I have no gears for him, lol

[crude sandal]

When are we gonna get 5/5 for the next MFs

[teal haven]

I only have the +9% one I got the other day

Actually wait

Do gear skill things stack additively or as multipliers

[royal jolt]

Lol

80% crit-rate my ASS

He missed SO many of them

[scarlet ivy]

time to try 1/5 chase/lillie with exr red

and proceed to cry

lol

[timid tree]

is this anything?

[teal haven]

Oh I made that up idk his actually rate, that's just my estimate from my 3 full runs lol

[royal jolt]

No, that's his actual crit-rate at +3 crit

It was more like a 50/50 in that run 😭

I wanted to try Summer Steven until I saw the two dreaded nodes

Freezer Burn and Flinch Hitter

[scarlet ivy]

yeap, i stink at this

lol

sure, I got no dodges or para, but still

EX Lillie is probably also important

[royal jolt]

You use Lillie's B move too often

[royal jolt]

And that as well

In my 4.2M run, I only used her B move once

[crude sandal]

Was Chase 1st target?

In my run, I didn't use it once

[royal jolt]

Oh damn
I didn't even notice he was first target

[scarlet ivy]

Oh, is he not supposed to be

[royal jolt]

No

[vagrant ivy]

no

[scarlet ivy]

I get it's ideal to minimize

animations

[royal jolt]

Every time he gets hit, he heals

[vagrant ivy]

chase is never the first target in DC

lol

[royal jolt]

It's slow

[scarlet ivy]

but a lot of the time

getting para on targets with chase if he's not first target is hard

lol

that or i guess skill issue

[royal jolt]

You really just need to para the left

The other two use AOE

[vagrant ivy]

just tank with nc red it’s not like he’s gonna die

[royal jolt]

If para is really that important

[vagrant ivy]

his hostile environment 9 tile is 2/5 tho

[scarlet ivy]

the issue is mostly getting the reliable para is all

yeah mine is 1/5 on both

[royal jolt]

O h

[scarlet ivy]

and my Lillie has no support ex

[royal jolt]

Oof

[vagrant ivy]

well then just ignore it

just 1 para won’t matter that much

[scarlet ivy]

if I had 2/5

I would've just

stopped tanking with chase a long time ago

[royal jolt]

Just try going all in with Red and Sing spam

I think you'll get a more preferable result

[pallid girder]

Most dcs have 1st or 2nd aoe move.
So you reset that move hit Chase and you don't really need to tank by him later.

[crude sandal]

Right side has AoE, so that's the time to spam

[scarlet ivy]

with only +1 evasion

dazzling gleam has missed chase

4 times

in a row

lol

[vast glade]

Got some good rng but danm Silver procced a move faster than I could hit Blizzard so I couldn't get higher

Tried again and this time Blizzard landed

But since RNG was bad it wasn't much higher

[royal jolt]

Yeah
For some reason, there's a moment where he just goes insane and spams us right back

[scarlet ivy]

did not use the Lillie B move at all and the score was worse

lol

it requires a lot of variance

[royal jolt]

I wish I could demote my units so I could give it a go. Like turn off move levels at will 🥹

[crude sandal]

Batman had the best score right?

6.1M with full Kanto team

[scarlet ivy]

slightly better if I weaved at least once B in but there is a world where I can get away with using another one

[crude sandal]

What move levels again? Sorry

[scarlet ivy]

1/5 EX Chase, 1/5 EX Lillie, 3/5 EXR Red

[crude sandal]

Finally I've regianed my Ace Trainer role

[scarlet ivy]

no support on Lillie is quite punishing in general

and Chase also wants either 2 or 3

[crude sandal]

Dodge/Para luck is kinda needed

[scarlet ivy]

as is DC tradition

[crude sandal]

Also Red needs SpMUN stacks

Lillie and Chase provide them, with Chase further providing it at 3/5

[vagrant ivy]

H.lillie decided to shaft me after 8 multis so couldn’t test that

[scarlet ivy]

I have 9 stacks at all times

[crude sandal]

Red TM MPR?

[vagrant ivy]

chase gives 1 smun from circle by default

[vagrant ivy]

yes

twice

[scarlet ivy]

no, I have the protect tile that gives the extra +2

[vagrant ivy]

oh

[crude sandal]

That one huh?

[scarlet ivy]

unless there's a better grid for it

[vagrant ivy]

well mine is 1/5 so I just do tm mpr

[crude sandal]

Well, you can TM MPR for 10 SpMUN and also sync CD decrease

[scarlet ivy]

upped it to 2.4m

but oh well, I tried

DC isn't my turf because I have a history of avoiding strikes lol

[crude sandal]

Strike units?

[scarlet ivy]

offensive units in general

thanks for the help tho!

[true locust]

Serena guy got it since i think he land 2 blizzard

Would be same like me if got better damage rolls. But kanto team is better whit score then lilie. But way more rng

[crude sandal]

Oh? Hmmmm

[true locust]

I befor 4 red sync got 5,6m kanto team

[crude sandal]

I see

[true locust]

So kanto trio is better. But its crazy hard get 5 red sync. This way

[crude sandal]

You'd need +30 speed on the pin

[true locust]

You need avoid most moves for all even aoe

Speed is not issue for me

[crude sandal]

And there are 2 of them that are 2 gauge

[true locust]

Any way got my 5 sync and im happy

Time test arc leon teams:)

[crude sandal]

AS Leon or Leaf for Tuesday?

[crude sandal]

Also, same team is in fire 3v3?

[true locust]

I will use leon

Not think you need ingo

Leon can easy burn any way

[crude sandal]

Yeah, true

[crude sandal]

But who spams?

[true locust]

Melony/ lilie

Marnie and leon

[pallid girder]

Ingo is mostly for evasion since you don't use Chase but Marnie.

[true locust]

This was need aoe

For 2 gauge move ingo

Sing spam is way faster

[copper otter]

Hmmst.

[crude sandal]

Ingo is for 3v3 because he can immediately burn all enemies, he has spam, speed and evasion buffs

[acoustic delta]

what can i do to bring my damage output up? i tried switching in my ex'd h! lillie for grusha but ended up with less damage than before

(also yes i need to ex chase and grusha, just lacking the champion spirits to do so)

[crude sandal]

No spammer

At best, Grusha should be replaced for Melony

If you have other spammers like H. Lillie, then she's definitely the best one

[acoustic delta]

i'm not sure if she can be considered a spammer, but i also have an ex'd mela

i checked melony's kit and she seems like more of a tank no? not really seeing her use in dc, although i may be missing something

[pallid girder]

You're prob not doing sing spam right I assume?

[acoustic delta]

uhhh probably not. what would be the correct strategy here?

or rather the correct rotation

[crude sandal]

Spam or to get as many syncs as possible

[copper otter]

@acoustic delta sing FAIL spam is the optimal way to get points.

[pallid girder]

Para one opponent -> only use sing except the first few turns when you buff and when set circle.

[crude sandal]

You have Chase, who is one of the best DC units

[pallid girder]

Like if you used up all HLillie's bmove it's wrong.

[copper otter]

You should only use Hlillie's B move if you're close to sync and there isn't enoigh time to rush another.

But you gotta make sure that you have at least 15 seconds because it will queue an opponent move.

If not, do not use her B move

[acoustic delta]

so basically i only use sing on lillie and nothing else, unless i need to sync quickly near the end

and with chase i just continue to set circle and use his tm?

[copper otter]

You have to SET UP first then sing spam yes.

Onl use circle when you're about to sync with the damage dealer

Using circle at the beginning will do nothing for you

[acoustic delta]

i see

[crude sandal]

At the same time, Chase isn't EX-ed so if Lillie isn't EX and/or EXR-ed, then purely syncing with Red is best

[copper otter]

But that's where the damage output is also missing

So no EX, less damage

Simple as that

[acoustic delta]

lillie is ex'd, but no exr

[copper otter]

Oof

[acoustic delta]

hmm i see

[crude sandal]

Then just sync with Red then

[acoustic delta]

what would the proper set up be? red tm, lillie sing, chase tm?

[pallid girder]

Ex Chase if you have the resource coz he'll use a lot in dc.

[copper otter]

No.

Lillie shouldn't be singing until the opponent is paralyzed

[crude sandal]

Yes, and in order to do so, an enemy must hit Chase

[copper otter]

Once paralyzed, THEN sing spam

[acoustic delta]

ohh

[crude sandal]

Like the right side gonna do Dazzling Gleam

[acoustic delta]

sorry i'm still getting the hang of things

but i think i'm starting to understand now

[copper otter]

To be fair, this game mode plays on an entirely different mindset

[acoustic delta]

yeah you're right, dc is the one mode i'm unfamiliar with because it plays so differently

[acoustic delta]

will do

[copper otter]

Every other mode has you set up and strategize the best damage output.
damage challenge howeber makes you become a speedrunner to try and save time and opt out of B moves BECAUSE they take forever to set up

Value must exceed time wasted in order to warrant a B move

[pallid girder]

Red Blizzard first (apply rebuff & +3 SMUN) > tm (max offense & +4 SMUN) > Protect (+2 SMUN) **rmb to pick those +SMUN tiles in his grid
HLillie tm first and when one of the opponent is para'd start spam sing on it
Chase use tm > set circle before Red sync & before the 1st runs out

[acoustic delta]

what does smun stand for?

[copper otter]

Special move up next

[acoustic delta]

oh

[copper otter]

Pmun is the physical variant

[acoustic delta]

makes sense

[copper otter]

SyMUN is the sync variant

[pallid girder]

NCRed has it for his innate sync multiplier.

+10 = +100% sync dmg, which is often overlook coz its in base not in grid.

[copper otter]

Apologies if we say terminology that is not very understandable, it just makes it easier for us to type it down without making a paragraph on one passive lmao

[acoustic delta]

no no that's okay, i'm still learning all the abbreviations and whatnot so this actually helps a lot

thank you everyone for all your advice, i'll be putting your tips to use and update my score here later

[copper otter]

I would make an example video of your team if i could, but i'll be way too busy moving this weekend

[acoustic delta]

that's okay! your advice is more than enough, thank you so much good luck to you with your move

[copper otter]

Also, i just remember Ranked DC is soon....

Psychic No rules:
Lear gaming
Steel: No status/Int:
SS Lear Gaming
Dark: Sync move damage only:
Lodge Lear gaming
UB Gio Gaming

[vapid kernel]

Cool

[vapid kernel]

Replace Red with NC Blue

[copper otter]

Psychic:
NC Rosa/DC Blue?/ Lear

Steel: Arc Steven/Steel zone user/SS Lear

Dark: UB Gio/Colress/NC Serena?

Hmmm it IS 3v1 on Psychic though....

[vagrant ivy]

[acoustic delta]

one last question, i'm supposed to spam blizzard until i can sync with red after the set up, correct?

[pallid girder]

No. Use it in the beginning, even BEFORE Red tm, and never click it again until the last 1 sec.

[acoustic delta]

oh okay

[crude sandal]

Isn't Dexio better for psychic 3v1?

[pallid girder]

You dont want to waste all SMUN stack when you sync.
It only can be used again when you have no time to the next sync.

[crude sandal]

And steel 3v3 is either Poppy or SS Lear

[copper otter]

Dexio needs 4/5

[pallid girder]

I need to use SSAG in steel coz he's my only no status spammer other than Aaron.
My dark st dd is SS Cyrus anyway who alr set his own zone.

[vagrant ivy]

i'd like to put my new 3/5 EXR paulo to the test

for no status

[crude sandal]

Isn't Aaron better for spam

[copper otter]

The ultimate steel team was able to get 5 mil with no spammer

[vagrant ivy]

as an enabler for aaron

[pallid girder]

I dont know actually.

[vagrant ivy]

that's true too

[copper otter]

Also UB gio has dark zone

So he's built for dark plus Symun

[vagrant ivy]

well even in dark DC he was only on par with existing options

so outside of it he's probably worse

[copper otter]

The rule for dark is regular moves reduced

[pallid girder]

Dont have 5anni steel team so thats not an option to me.

[scenic grotto]

Ok, I’ll try that then

[copper otter]

Colress is there to help serena's multipliers

Psychic though is a tossup

Nc rosa for sure, chase ig, then either dexio or lear

Depending on how whale you are

[crude sandal]

BTW, what was the best score in rock 3v3 again?

[copper otter]

Uhhhh

[crude sandal]

It was NC Silver right?

[pallid girder]

4.xM. One of the worst score now.

[crude sandal]

Ironic ain't it

[pallid girder]

10?/5 USelene will save this tho.

[vagrant ivy]

jacq, dexio and vElio have beaten lear tho

like, my PB with him using chase melony on ST was like 2.2m

but that's only 3/5

there's no shortage of options if you have them

[copper otter]

Wait velio? Really?

[vagrant ivy]

he got at least 3m

[copper otter]

I have him 4/5

[pallid girder]

Yeah psychic st best is Dexio.
Dark st best is (maybe) SS Cyrus.

[crude sandal]

SS Cyrus or Cerena?

[copper otter]

Ss cyrus i believe

[pallid girder]

We believe it's 9/5 SS Cyrus

[crude sandal]

LMFAO

[copper otter]

The problem is that you can't rely on sleep due to bad dreams

[crude sandal]

So Cerena is still better for most people

Until she somehow gets a 5/5 that helps her sync multipliers

[vagrant ivy]

did you grid for SEUN on TM

[copper otter]

Steel will be interesting because it's either anni lillie or Ny Poopy

A lot of folk will opt for anni lillie because sprint

[crude sandal]

For zone setting I assume

[copper otter]

Ye

[vagrant ivy]

i think steel MT will be free for most people since they can just full DPS with ss lear

status param wouldn't matter as much

[pallid girder]

Thats not free...

[copper otter]

It's free, you got col..... oh wait

He needs paralysis

[pallid girder]

Psychic will be the free one coz f2p psychic are bonkers.

[pallid girder]

Who?

[crude sandal]

Colress

[scenic grotto]

Yes

[pallid girder]

Steel is either arc Steven + SS Lear DPS spam or pain and suffer imo.

[warped gulch]

This is really low ngl, lower than f2p options too

[lone pond]

i mean wasn't that like a half troll run

[vagrant ivy]

alot of people pulled for both ss lear and arc steven from what i saw

[warped gulch]

Alot doesn’t mean free

[lone pond]

he's using nc blue on a physical attacker

[vagrant ivy]

psychic is bloated af with techs so yes

[lone pond]

fun fact: this was 100% the mentality dena had while making ub leon

[scenic grotto]

My Hala grid

[acoustic delta]

update, i tried doing it the way you all told me to and got my first million! i know i didn't do everything perfectly (like queue sing one too many times near the end), so any tips would be greatly appreciated if you notice i'm doing anything wrong

[warped gulch]

Still better than Chase for Physical nuker

[vagrant ivy]

the "anni unit so it must be popular and meta" grindset

but honestly it's mostly true tho

[lone pond]

what does chase do again

[vagrant ivy]

circle

supp EX sprint EXR if you have it

[warped gulch]

Supp, Special Circle, para, evasion, gauge battery

[lone pond]

no, the mindset was "it's only beatable with this one unit and with nothing else, but hey everyone from 3rd anni and december 2023 should have that unit so fuck it we ball"

[lone pond]

me no chase

[warped gulch]

Blue still buffs Physical nuker with his Def debuff and 20% from his passive

Unlike Chase only buffs special

[vagrant ivy]

there's many other clears of dana without steel units but i assume dena probably didn't think that a couple of 10/5 pokefairs would be able to clear it either

using the 5th anni "big steel" units just gives you a far easier time

[vagrant ivy]

support pokefair select has you covered

[lone pond]

bold of you to assume i do selects

[warped gulch]

Imagine spending 5k paid to select

[acoustic chasm]

Welp, this is officially my best DC score ever

I noticed this stage uses way more moves than usual

They're all 2 gauge slow moves too lol

[scenic grotto]

Managed to regrid to include the fourth sync multiplier
Got a lower score because I missed a crit on one of the syncs ^^;

[pallid girder]

Dont set Chase as the first tank. You actually want Chase get hit as least as possible; set him first make it more rng for you.
The right uses Dazzling Gleam (opponents' 2nd move) so you can reset until he get hit by that and still get a para opponent.

[acoustic delta]

who should i set first then? lillie or red?

[pallid girder]

Anyone is fine. Just not Chase.

[crude sandal]

You think that SS (Alt.) Gio can change the meta for non-dark weak DC stgaes?

[pallid girder]

He can't. I just wonder will he better or worse than Aaron.

He can't even win Oleana whom ppl alr use a lot in the past.

[crude sandal]

I'm thinking he can be used as a support for flying 3v3 for NC Cheren

[scenic grotto]

It is unfortunate that Oleana’s Free Move Next is at 5/5

[acoustic chasm]

Hm, has anyone been able to get 5 syncs with NC Red after 2 supp syncs?
Even with paralysis proc the enemy spams moves way too often

[crude sandal]

Some of us have

[pallid girder]

You don't need 5/5 Oleana. I'm pretty sure ppl actually don't like her twofer nowadays.

[crude sandal]

Yeah, no Twofer, just Move Gauge Boost

[scenic grotto]

Fair enough

[acoustic chasm]

How many paralysis needed?

[crude sandal]

It could be paralyze or dodge

If you have Chase that is

[scenic grotto]

all

[acoustic chasm]

No Chase, only NC Blue and Holillie

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, then you'd need a lot of them

[warped gulch]

Total 7 syncs is very hard in MT stage

[crude sandal]

I was able to get it once

Got 4.31M

[warped gulch]

Oh then

HARD

[crude sandal]

Adam got 5.9M

With 5 syncs

[acoustic chasm]

Yeah no I'm fine with 3.9M lol

[scenic grotto]

I have been thinking
Would Lodge Volo be able to get a higher Ground DC 3v3 score than OG Cynthia?

[warped gulch]

Uh hell no lol

[crude sandal]

No unless OG Cynthia is below 3/5

[scenic grotto]

Fair enough, but it would have been amusing to see the first stage outperform the final stage

[warped gulch]

He has 3 Syncs multiplier

1 is sand base
And other 2 is 30% each

[crude sandal]

But Volo needs to use Bulldoze thrice to at least activate Slo-pponent Sync

Unless you're willing to ditch it

[scenic grotto]

Indeed

[crude sandal]

When rock 3v3 comes back, is NC Silver still still best?

Or Selent (Alt.)

[pallid girder]

Iirc it's NC Silver + 10/5 SS Diantha being top 1.

But that's when 10/5 USelene didn't exist.

[crude sandal]

You people and your non-usage of alt when someone has (Alt.) in their name

[normal parcel]

When you need to actually hit 90% accuracy becomes like 50%, when you need to miss it becomes 99%

[crude sandal]

Also, which is better for Selene (Alt.) and H. Lillie? Chase or SS Diantha?

[scenic grotto]

I do hope that H Lillie will allow me to be able to reach 1m damage on Ghost MT and Steel MT

[warped gulch]

Chase, bc you dont want to poison 3 enemy

Also she doesn’t have any multiplier with poison

[normal parcel]

I mean ghost MT should reach 1m esily with f2p

Steel should be f2p friendly too (with anni Lillie 2.0)

[pallid girder]

Ghost: EX Morty.
Steel: EX MCSol or SoLillie or Colress.

[crude sandal]

I'm guessing you use Acid after you paralyze everyone

[warped gulch]

Yes

I have 10/5 Selene but not having H Lillie so high chance i still stuck with Elio lol

[scenic grotto]

Right, it’s just that my highest score at the moment for Ghost is 921k damage with Anni Lillie so I should be able to get 1 million when it returns

I can’t remember if Steel MT was before or after Anni Lillie 2 became available

[crude sandal]

1st sync, not bad

And this is 3/5 Selene too

[normal parcel]

Morty should be better than anni Lillie that has terrible multipliers

Ok tech exr helps,but she has like brain sync 5 only

[pallid girder]

Anni1Lillie will maybe get another sync multiplier at 5/5 one day!

[scenic grotto]

Yeah but I already have Anni Lillie EX’d and Morty isn’t EX’d so it would save on tickets
I say whilst having a pile of tickets so large that Joker could slide down them

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/9QnmanUmsSg?si=C_a2aPx_VeDIjYl8

Now should be better with 10/5 and H Lillie

[normal parcel]

Is Lillie exr?, because if exr I guess she has a chance to compete with Morty, but without exr s Morty is just better

[scenic grotto]

Yeah my Anni Lillie is EXR

[normal parcel]

Maybe if you fish for super preparation

[scenic grotto]

I could or I could try using RedLax beforehand just in case

It’s all about testing and testing

Here’s something interesting, either I have gridded my Anni Lillie 2 incorrectly or I somehow managed to have a non EX Kimono Grimsley deal more damage than EXR Anni Lillie 2 on ST (back when ST Steel was running)

[crude sandal]

@warped gulch I'm wondering why you used Acid twice

[warped gulch]

Mostly bc i didn’t want to watse time

Enemy at -5 which not that big

Bc Elio just that inconsistent

[fallen trail]

ssn not worth using?

[warped gulch]

I saw skip used him and reached 3.5m

[crude sandal]

If he is 10/5, then he should be close-ish to NC Red

[fallen trail]

oop

i have 5/5

not quite worth

[crude sandal]

@true locust BTW, what to replace V. Marnie for if you don't have her?

[true locust]

Chase or leaf

But prob chase since have eva but need some rng

[fallen trail]

needed 1 dodge for a seun sync

my 2nd best score behind triple fighting

[true locust]

Best is just use red sync no use lilie b move

[fallen trail]

hmm unless i got several dodges red wasn’t gonna have time for another sync

barely had time for the b move

might be an issue with 2/5 chase maybe

[rapid sparrow]

What's your red grid for this?

[true locust]

Its my

But this work too

No need realy furios brain since extra on last move is nothing

[rapid sparrow]

Hmm

Last move blizzard or bmove?

[crude sandal]

This is mine with +6 energy
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3/14400?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFBgwNDxEUISIkKCsuLw&x=true

[rapid sparrow]

I feel like Bmove on last move would make more sense

But i don't know the actual calculations

[brazen escarp]

no blizzard should do more i feel

[rapid sparrow]

Sometimes I question why I try in this mode

Then I remember there are units I need to get and upgrade

[rapid sparrow]

But Blizzard is less move power in general

And since it's AOE it gets divided by 3 anyways

Unless the SM↑ gives RAW damage

Then B move should be stronger

Or so I think

[brazen escarp]

no

its by 2

0.5x dmg

[rapid sparrow]

Hm

Interesting

[brazen escarp]

would this be the best grid for red if u have the energy?

[vagrant ivy]

if you had him at 3/5

also i don't think the hail stuff is worth

since hail eats time