#Damage Challenge

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misty forge
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Because nothing is as fast as sing

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Here, a very average rng run to copy

icy pendant
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Fairly fast? On the scale of sing spam to Gigantic Rock Tomb yes it is fairly fast, but why compromise when you can go faster?

misty forge
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Very average/low rng

fallen trail
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https://youtu.be/AV5ZAYz5G0Q?si=uK7K1zCGLzX8-BTq still 1/5 v hop's best team even on normal dc

this strat was used in super sparring due to no status conditions... turns out for a 1/5 hop it's still his best team lol. at 3/5 you can just sync spam w him. exr on adaman mattered, there really is no time to waste

grids/lucky skills: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=028400047000&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=16010404&t0=4444&x0=true&g0=AAECAw...

▶ Play video
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“there’s no time to waste” he says… true…

feral hamlet
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You manage to get a whole extra sync in. That's what will close the gap

misty forge
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Yeah

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I got it because I didn't spam useless buttons

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That do nothing

coarse veldt
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i tried adaman ss acerola and sonia

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i got 100k

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may i get help

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idk what to do

feral hamlet
teal haven
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Considering my only grass damage dealers are adaman and Brendan I'll take this

feral hamlet
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Finished with 1,196,360, so I can settle for that

cloud timber
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the dire hits are useless

misty forge
coarse veldt
feral hamlet
misty forge
coarse veldt
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i have

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melony

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i got like 180k max

misty forge
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Are you copying the videos

coarse veldt
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which videos

cloud timber
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you used 2 dire hit +s and blue's tm, one of those is in fact useless

feral hamlet
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Yeah and I stopped doing that and I got the last sync in

cloud timber
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aight good

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just going off the screenshot

feral hamlet
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I had quite a bit more time the second attempt somehow even though my run was mostly the same. But at least it worked out in the end

brazen escarp
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For extra sync damage?

dense scarab
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It is an extra 20%

brazen escarp
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Yea but -6 def would do more no?

cloud timber
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no

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para + gauge for melony + 20% from passive + -2 defenses on sync

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which consumes minimal time compared to manually debuffing

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while simultaneously enabling one of the fastest sync rush methods in the game

brazen escarp
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Alright ig

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Does the master passive affect sync moves?

fallen trail
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it does not

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just blue's sync boost passive

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but its a flat 20% so its essentially like putting an extra cs2 on your pair

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which is pretty good

cloud timber
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yep

hollow whale
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Oh master passive just boosts attack moves? Man

dense gate
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Good opportunity to put SS Giovanni (Alt) to work

ivory kestrel
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which will benefit more for Mix Red who will just sync spam? the SpAtk +20 tile and a couple of SpAtk +5 tiles, or the 2nd +25 Sync Damage tile

indigo aspen
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Usually, move pwr is better, but you can check yourself on Pomatools dmg calc

normal parcel
vapid kernel
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Well well

cloud timber
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yeah that makes more sense

safe prawn
vapid kernel
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Does no one here use Victor?

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I never seen him on Grass 3v3SophoKEK

hard sleet
true locust
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I saw one time him 10/5

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Victor

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Around 2m if remember

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
true locust
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Its old unit

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One sync multi

safe prawn
hard sleet
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I have a suspicion it will be field

spiral halo
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VHop but pokefair ThortonCrestfallen

true locust
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He super have 2 terrain set so not sure he get field

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More like sprint / sup

hard sleet
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I would like tech but idk how much that would fix him support would be good so its not as much of a detriment to sync with him 💀

vapid kernel
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Tech sounds right

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Tech is what they give to shitty strikers

thick stump
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I hope he gets field

vapid kernel
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his Sync grid shouts field

safe prawn
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Imo he’s getting field which also fits rillaboom in the main games

slate magnet
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Tech role should give a 50% damage bonus and an innate sync multiplier depending on the sync pair, sad it doesn’t lol. Also Support Tech should just gain a passive that reduces all damage done to them by like 15% lol

vapid kernel
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That wudve been cool but wudve been a lot of extra work for Dena BeaBurger

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If u know u know

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Expectation Support Tech EXR: they become like Lyra and Dawn with innate

Reality: not 200% conditoional boost but 150% for free

zinc rune
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How does one use giovani in DC?

cloud timber
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like bp barry and colress he needs 3/5 for gaugeless spam (infliction freebie 9)

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but the symun boost ends up not being worth even the minimal time it takes to activate it so he's not the best option unless you need dark zone

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and he's ok if you're not allowed to use status but still not optimal if not dark

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which usually every super sparring has

plush palm
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for his gauge issues you kinda have to use him w/ smth like chase or bianca

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if you aint using infliction freebie

pallid girder
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Victor gets field exr will also make sense with his sa passive: entry GT & max GT, both don't hinder post sync GT.

safe prawn
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They will make an event to give Gloria and Victor ex role (Gloria sprint Victor field) imo

vapid kernel
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Yalls i just learnt tht 3v1s last 1 day less than 3v3s?

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Is it true tf

proud minnow
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Yes

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3v1’s are in Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday

3v3’s are in Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday

scenic grotto
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All because a week is 7 days instead of 6 or 8

lethal siren
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Single fairy next

rare apex
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revenge time

crude sandal
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Singing mermaid sea lion time

scenic grotto
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Yep
H Lillie time (along with SS Nemona and SS Wally)

lethal siren
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Me no H lilly
First SS wally match with his sprint role

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Or he already got last time single dc came?

proud minnow
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He already got it last time

pallid girder
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They should've made both 1 week long but every week we got 2 DCs (1 MT & 1 ST).

plush palm
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my ss wally is only 1/5 rip

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gonna see how far i can push w/ him

safe prawn
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Hlilie shouldn’t be that bad by herself as a DPS/nuker if fully invested

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But I wanna our hero skippingmud with his 10/5 SSWally being on top of the chart

lethal siren
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Wally's interference sync tile is kinda annoying

sturdy pebble
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Speaking of, why doesn't HLillie use her B-Move as often as I thought? The clears I saw only used it once or twice

plush palm
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it takes up time

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B moves are SLOW

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like sometimes on evasion comps you can afford to use it more if youre lucky asf

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generallys better to get a extra sync in tho

safe prawn
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SSdiantha and SSTred have been teaching us how long b moves can be LarryDead

vapid kernel
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Which happens a lot for Chase Lillie build

normal parcel
cloud timber
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yea very unusual case

normal parcel
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Can't think of much units with good syncs but bad sync multipliers, maybe NC Marnie, but she's dark, so is even more obvious

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I guess maybe it could work with something like 3/5 Gloria

cloud timber
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non exr does at least exist too

normal parcel
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I mean if you are lacking the best options, I guess Giovanni may make something more viable

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Like for steel AOE, not sure if 3/5 ex Gloria is better than 5/5 ex colress if you add Giovanni to the mix

cloud timber
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yeah you have to dig for potential cases that also aren't proven yet or if they work how much

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just to be better than bp barry/colress, at least to my knowledge

topaz spade
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Is 3/5 v hop or 3/5 adaman sync nuke better in 3v3 grass dc?

icy pendant
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Is your Hop EXR?

topaz spade
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Debating, I have the strike cake but not sure I wanna use it on him

icy pendant
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If caked Hop undoubtedly takes it but otherwise I think it's a lot closer, I haven't followed this rotation super closely since I've been sick for most of it

topaz spade
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Alright thank you!

safe prawn
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Hop has the highest ceiling. Almost all 3+ Mln clears need him

topaz spade
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Yeah that makes sense I just wasn't sure whether or not those runs used hops sync nuke. I really wish they gave adaman strike ex role but it is what it is.

royal jolt
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Accidentally rolled an amazing gear for Steven while trying to do the Team Rocket battle, lmao

acoustic chasm
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For both og and anni lol

scenic grotto
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I was looking through my damage challenge clears to see what types would benefit from a “physical version of NC Blue”
Like Arc Steven but with gauge support and paralysis

Water and Dark uses Elio for attack and sp. attack buffs to NC Serena
Psychic uses Elio for Lear’s rising tide multiplier (or would H Lillie be better?)
Hala, Olivia, Gordie, Courtney, and OG Cynthia would benefit from a “physical NC Blue”

cloud timber
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any physical attacker that also uses nc blue will benefit from phys nc blue

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which is a whole lot of them

pallid girder
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NC Bianca is the closest we got right now.

scenic grotto
scenic grotto
plush palm
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which was annoying asf on my colress teams

scenic grotto
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For most of my teams going forward I will mainly have 2 paralysis users and 2 sing users
Redlax or NC Blue for para depending on if main attacker needs quick Sp. Attack/Crit buffs (or they can give themselves SEUN after every sync)
Elio or H Lillie for sing spam depending on if I’m using NC Serena, Lear, or some other unit

For ice weak, ground weak, and rock weak I either need better sync nukers or pull a unit like Arc Steven

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Sorry if no-one cares ^^;

teal haven
cursive linden
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My chance for Fairy 3v1 1M

teal haven
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Honestly egg Sylveon is probably a better 3rd pair

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You could easily get 1.5m probably with just chase and Lillie tbh

pallid girder
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3/5 HLillie can hit decently herself. Other bad f2p techs are just gonna drag her down.

cursive linden
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Trust the plan

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H. Lillie DPS
Katherine Nuke

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Trust trust

cloud timber
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tbh if that was my best fairy nuke i might run that team too (but i have ss wally)

cursive linden
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Yeah that's way better

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Rebuff for B Dazzling Gleam

cloud timber
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egg sylveon might be better than katherine though

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even if you run full b move grid

cursive linden
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Oh?

cloud timber
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katherine setup is too slow for too little payoff, removing her saves a ton of time and you can build way more sync buffs

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think that'll be best unless you have a better fairy enhancer (zoner) somewhere else

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or nc blue

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sync passive won't accomplish much there though

cursive linden
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I am Barbie the destroyer of worlds

cloud timber
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nice nice

cursive linden
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4* is enough right?

cloud timber
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1* is enough tbh

cursive linden
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I guess that speed is gonna matter

cloud timber
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4* will be good when we get gauntlet back

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ehh i think chase and lillie could work off just their own speed

pallid girder
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Yes the thing is f2p fairy techs ALL have bad multipliers for dc.
Using them and set their sync up is a big time wasting.

royal jolt
teal haven
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Don't have her LarryDead

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Only been able to use it with Morty and SS ingo

royal jolt
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RIP :(

vapid kernel
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I will use ss mina as 3rd

cursive linden
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NO DON'T

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FAIRY KINGDOM TAKES A LOT OF TIME

scenic grotto
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Would any of these units be able to get 1 million damage on either ST or MT if they were given either Tech Cake or Strike Cake?

cursive linden
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Olivia-Yes
SC Hilda-Probably yes
Kukui-WulfricKEKW
Summer Steven-No (Shit inante)
Holiday Leon-No (Shit innate)
Ghetsis-Yes
Holiday Nessa-????
Hala-Yes
Bertha-Probably

scenic grotto
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Thank you for the answer

dusty solar
cloud timber
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bertha's also a no bc both sand and trap reliant though still sounds slightly better off than h nessa

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actually she can get strike cake, thought she'd get tech exr but strike cake was a part of initial question

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still sucks to apply aoe trap

pallid girder
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Hala HAD 1M in MT alr.

cloud timber
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yea just needed nc blue + melony

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bianca + colress may be even better

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same could potentially save enough time for bertha to get her to 1m with theoretical strike cake

vapid kernel
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Also u just set up fairy zone once

scenic grotto
cursive linden
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FAIRY KINGDOM ACTIVATES EVERY SYNC

vagrant ivy
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he barely scratches 1m at CS2 5 syncs

scenic grotto
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Unfortunate but fair enough
Hopefully a combination of H Lillie and Redlax will make getting that 1 million damage slightly easier

vapid kernel
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👍🏼

normal parcel
normal parcel
thick stump
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for the gits and shiggles i suppose

loud cedar
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wait its ice rn?

pallid girder
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It's still grass. They just shared an old screenshot.

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Next reset is fairy st.

loud cedar
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oh

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ooo fairy st

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any 10/5 ss wally gamers

vagrant ivy
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@lone pond your time to shine

lone pond
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that's tomorrow though

vapid kernel
rare apex
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1/5 :(((

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i did push 990k with him doe

icy pendant
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of course the run where I have Chase tanking is a new PB, I’ll have to revisit this later but at least I’m not sub-1m on this rotation anymore

vapid kernel
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Looks good

sacred badger
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oh god

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Fairy Single

icy pendant
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for a Chase tank team and not adjusting my gear yeah it’s fine

sacred badger
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man. whose a better nuker, Palentine Serena or..... Holiday Lillie?

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or both? o.o?

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i guess i can 3/5 Holiday Lillie and go from there hrm.

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Chase and Holiday lillie it is mmhmm

fallen trail
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any shenanigans to be had w this tile

true locust
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Can slow down run

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This way if spam

fallen trail
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that b move will HIT though

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probably hits harder than her sync

sacred badger
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We'll see tomorrow then kuku

crude sandal
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What's the best team tomorrow?

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Chase/H. Lillie/SS Wally?

true locust
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Yeap

crude sandal
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Well, good thing I have all 3 of them and at the right move level too

crude sandal
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Lillie or Wally?

true locust
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Wally lol

crude sandal
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I see

true locust
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Depend on miss luck and confusion stay

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You may do last sync super up next

crude sandal
true locust
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I did

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My team is ready

crude sandal
true locust
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I did 5 wally now

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So 7 sync

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But first no zone only after rebuff i apply zone

fallen trail
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my wally only 1/5 so i gotta nuke w lillie

long silo
vapid kernel
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Good

still hearth
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Single Fairy next?

pallid girder
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HLillie striking herself next yes.

lethal siren
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SS wally

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Sprint role

cursive linden
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Are these the grids/ls for Hol. Lillie?

long silo
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My Wally and HoLillie are both 1/5. Gladion time again lol

dusty solar
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bede or ss wally? both are exr

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i think this was pre exr

fallen trail
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ss wally by far

lethal siren
fallen trail
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i think its good

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her b move will outdamage her sync at a point

lethal siren
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Oh

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Ok

fallen trail
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i dont think she can get 1 mil with just syncs

lethal siren
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I don't know much abt her

cloud timber
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need cs2/sp3 to boost b move dmg as much as possible

fallen trail
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yeah her b move will be more damaging

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its higher bp, you can stack the smun, and she doesnt have tech exr

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i think brainpower is her only multiplier

lethal siren
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Is this ok

fallen trail
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yeah thats good

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lillie can maybe do this

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i might try h lillie/chase/volo

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my ss wally is only 1/5

unborn otter
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Would you get dc hop or dc marnie if you have all of the others at 3/5?

fallen trail
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hop

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marnie kinda bad

unborn otter
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Grass gear cs2

upbeat bluff
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question, which of the DC pairs should I bring to 3/5 first?

upbeat bluff
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???

crude sandal
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All of them are mediocre at best

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But maybe if I had to choose, maybe DC Blue if you have Chase

icy pendant
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Depends on the gamemode you’re trying to optimize for, if you’re going for more DC optimizations then Blue probably is the best

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the pairs are still definitely better than the orbs once you have all DC pairs at 1/5

crude sandal
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Is H. Lillie like 2nd best DD for later?

upbeat bluff
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I do have Chase.

dusty solar
lethal siren
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No

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It will be time consuming because of confusion effect

dusty solar
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so no interference sync?

lethal siren
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Before sync
You confuse

dusty solar
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Alright

lethal siren
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Because confuse cures after little time

cloud timber
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i've found 3/5 dc gladion to be very helpful for rally and lg but dc blue actually has dc use with chase

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but 3/5 dc wally can debuff speed and offenses which has use everywhere

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sets para for h lillie/elio

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i'd still do gladion > wally > blue personally

icy pendant
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Gladion is awesome, Cheren and Barry have been in a similar boat for me of “awesome in LG”

spiral halo
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DC Gladion is good in this HSE too

cloud timber
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blue just gains befuddle 1 for dc which can be very helpful but that's it, more tricky to make him work anywhere else too

fallen trail
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i used gladion in hse yeah

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ice zone boosted triple axel w chase down 5 on his grid hits pretty hard

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he needs atk buffs though

sacred badger
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i'm waiting for Pal Serena + Holiday Lillie clears xD

cloud timber
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when we get a dc where cakewalk is relevant

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someone should be running it

sacred badger
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wat

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Pal Serena's nuke is Inertia though?

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  • Paralyzed
cloud timber
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oh she can nuke

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i usually think of her as cakewalk setter only

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  • para
sacred badger
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that's her DPS lol

cloud timber
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no, for other damage dealers

sacred badger
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she's nice tbh

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but yeah 700k for her atm :<

cloud timber
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solo ss wally damage can do better still but first good attempt

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no confusion

cunning rock
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Hlillie hitting 500k even without 3/5 inspires confidence, I can finally hit 1M on Fairy ST DC.

cloud timber
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it is zone + rebuff boosted but if you have 1/5 ss wally she'll still do the same

cunning rock
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Yeah, I also have SS Wally

cloud timber
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nice

lusty galleon
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time to use Wally to destroy Wally

sacred badger
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HMMMM

lone pond
cunning rock
lone pond
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i wonder something

sacred badger
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ah nevermind i'm dead

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waiting for HLillie 1m by herself, no SS Wally help.

lusty galleon
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hmmm

lone pond
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should i use penny and holillie and do risky shit or do i just use another status setter

sacred badger
lusty galleon
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HLillie's condition is good for it

cloud timber
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penny is worth using over a paralyzer i believe?

lone pond
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that's the thing i'm asking

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i'll try

sacred badger
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i'm... gonna try Chase 2R, Holiday Lillie 1R and Palentine Serena

cloud timber
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fairy comps traditionally just want to stack as much fairy stuff as possible

sacred badger
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see if i can crack at it.

loud cedar
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lmao my first try with this team and i got a fleur cannon miss

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i get a miss on st but not on 3v3

cloud timber
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and lillie gives team seun boosts

sacred badger
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I think

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Oh. Chase and zapdos

lone pond
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THAT'S DAMAGE

vagrant ivy
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10/5 real

lone pond
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the one time using a b-move is good

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if you're wondering why

pseudo stag
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poverty teams for st fairy dc looking kinda sad...

sacred badger
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Hum. If i use penny , serena and hollie, cant nuke hard with serena hrm

cloud timber
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yea for accessible options fairy st is very dry

lone pond
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honestly

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fairy st is literally just ss wally

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and nothing else

indigo aspen
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Who needs SS Wally

lone pond
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@sacred badger

lone pond
cunning rock
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FREEDOM. But tbh, you need a lot for HLillie to reach 1M. I had to SEUN every HLillie sync except the first. And SEUN'd her B Move before the time

sacred badger
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Hrm

cursive linden
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Sync on Hol Lillie at first and last sync

hybrid lagoon
cursive linden
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With my Fairy 3v1 being 1M, my non-1M score is now both Grass 3v1 (will be fixed with VHilda) and Rock 3v1, my mortal enemy

hybrid lagoon
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Thanks ClayThumbsUp

cursive linden
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No problem

cloud timber
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should prob be doing every sync with lillie, should still be stronger than eggmon even without grid help

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other than chase sync ofc

cursive linden
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Or what you mean is b move them sync, even when the sync is ready?

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Lemme do that

crude sandal
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What's the best score right now?

true locust
crude sandal
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Well, range of 3M or close to it

true locust
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Skipp have 3,1m

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But he have super

long silo
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I would assume 9/5 Wally can reach 4m?

crude sandal
true locust
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Hard tell me wat super have damage ? Ask skipp😏 maybe he can reach or not

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Wally is pain in ass set up

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Confusion zone rebuff

cloud timber
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is how i'd approach it

vagrant ivy
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I actually have gear this time

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but have to use it for katherine still

lone pond
vagrant ivy
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time to see how it goes

cursive linden
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You wanna maximise Hol. Lillie's DPS instead

cloud timber
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i didn't say change grid

true locust
cursive linden
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I didn't say that i changed my grid

cursive linden
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Might work

cloud timber
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eggmon was doing 26k on your original screenshot which seems like a waste

long silo
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I need to get god gears for Fighting next week

vagrant ivy
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6k less than chase

sacred badger
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Rip. I dunt have enough to EXR holiday lillie

cursive linden
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Awkward timing

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Also, that SEUN LarryDead

vagrant ivy
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gear mattered

cloud timber
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eggmon is still eggmon even with seun

vagrant ivy
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too poor to give blossom CS2… LG when

cloud timber
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you can auto farm villa lol

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and idk how much stamina you spent on lucky skill area

sacred badger
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Impressive

vagrant ivy
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I just do sst red ss hau up to area 5 for 1 stars

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only takes 3 minutes but well you’ll mostly get cheap skills

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guess it is what it is

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missed 2 crits

fluid tendon
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Well it's something lol

cloud timber
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bad rates are better than no rates

fluid tendon
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If I got a para I could get another sync in

lone pond
sacred badger
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serena crit nicely

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also..... Serena had +4 SMUN, she hit for 90k. cackles

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@icy scroll ^

plush palm
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idk how hard i can push him

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bc no exr

sacred badger
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i actually tghought my holiday lillie didnt have her exr

plush palm
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had 10 secs left at the end

vagrant ivy
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F2P attempt is in

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4 total syncs with Katherine all crits 1 para proc

fluid tendon
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F2p fairy is rough

vagrant ivy
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(still lower than bug ST)

cloud timber
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best i'm getting

vagrant ivy
vagrant ivy
pallid girder
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We just got another fairy tech again and still not better than the one released last year.

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Sadly the ex on free npc in datamine is false.

vagrant ivy
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maybe if we made her sustain spam on her own

cloud timber
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if i actually used lillie's second b move anywhere besides 1 on the sync counter i coulda fit in an extra smun for lillie's last b move

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also a +6e grid could exchange gobsmack for b move tiles and +20 spa but i'm not willing to invest and grind that hard

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also only got interference sync for a single sync lol

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could grid gobsmack on lillie......

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someone else can do that though, don't need the higher score for anything

teal haven
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you think lillie + gladion would be more or less than lille + egg sylveon

plush palm
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or maybe they just want her ex pose in the game but not the ex

fluid tendon
#

I'd be down for the free characters to get EXes down the road, they need all the help they can get

plush palm
#

petey is still gonna be ass

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eve would be unirronically amazing as a lg unit

teal haven
#

she already is tbh

plush palm
#

shed be way less rng heavy at least

pallid girder
#

We'll get the first ever speial ground aoe with sightseer ex.

teal haven
plush palm
#

most miserable part if a eve solo is all thise ridicures that refuse to proc

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im all for less miserable bar 1s

cloud timber
#

yeah eve could use the improvement for sure

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using her on latias was maybe the longest solo i've ever attempted and cleared

plush palm
#

latias bar 2 is ppretty smooth sailing

vapid kernel
#

1st go

icy scroll
vapid kernel
sacred badger
#

mmhmm

acoustic chasm
teal haven
#

Good enough

vagrant ivy
#

egg sylveon carry

teal haven
#

First time I've ever gotten 2 syncs in the first minute

vapid kernel
#

Whats ur grid?

#

And sync order?

acoustic chasm
#

Ladies and gentlemen,
Bulk Up spam

queen moth
#

I thought you needed his sync multipliers for this

acoustic chasm
#

I wanna try Marnie with HLillie but who's gonna debuff sp.atk?

#

Hm, Discourage 2 + 1x discharge from NC Blue + 3 spirit breaks?

#

Why they gave her freaking ripple effect instead of an extra -1 😭

plush palm
#

just one more dodge

#

first sync didnt crit

#

so missing 40-50k or so

#

i dont feel like resetting for that

#

750kish seems to be his limit

vagrant ivy
#

it is 1 EX no R after all

#

anyone tried var calem?

queen moth
#

What's a good third for hlillie/Chase? Don't have egg Sylveon and don't have SSmina at 3/5

plush palm
#

sc steven

vagrant ivy
#

penny?

plush palm
#

if you dont have penny ofc

vapid kernel
queen moth
crude sandal
#

-2 if she's 5/5

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If she's 10/5, then you practically get a sprint EX for her

plush palm
#

ok yeah then idk why youd use anything other than penny

copper otter
teal haven
#

blue has head start cookie, Lillie her custom cookie
Sync order: blue-lillie×5
Only use x speed once from blue once (might be able to skip it all together idk). Should get 1st lillie sync in at about 2:00 left. Use first wish right before lillie's 2nd sync (about 1:40 left). Use B move before syncs 3-5, and replenish fairy zone before it fades because the end animation takes up time (probably around 0:45 left). Last sync will be last 1-4sec left

teal haven
# vapid kernel

Oh shit I forgot about hau that could probably get my score up ~50k maybe

teal haven
#

Oh yeah Blue is 66/70 btw

vapid kernel
#

Wait what Lillie CUSTOM COOKIE

#

WTF THAT WAS A THING

crude sandal
queen moth
#

lol is her custom cookie actually good here

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Usually the customs are bad to my understanding

#

I should be getting more I think

#

Am I not supposed to click starry night disarming voice?

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...okay yeah that cookie seems brokey Lol

crude sandal
#

Question is, how will Adaman get sun for his 1st sync when grass 3v1 comes?

queen moth
#

SS Acerola

warped gulch
#

Cant supp -> supp -> Adaman

crude sandal
#

If running 2x support

warped gulch
#

I dont remember tbh

cloud timber
#

i don't think sun for first sync is worth it even with solar flare

warped gulch
#

I dont even know if he needed even with 1 supp

warped gulch
#

Especially use him with Dahlia

cloud timber
#

i couldn't get it to work even with just one support but i'm going off multi attempts so

teal haven
#

40% sync boost

queen moth
#

Better. Idk what I'm doing wrong tho. I did put the cookie on at least

vast glade
#

Completly forgot Lillie's cookie and up using critical strike instead PrycePain

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So used to those being useless, aside Arc Cynthia's that one time lol

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Here's my results

#

Might try again with Lillie's better LS

plush palm
teal haven
#

Hey you got 1m, my 1.4m only got 8 more tickets than you so who's to say if it's worth it (besides pride ig)

teal haven
acoustic chasm
#

Not that we have a choice nowadays lol

teal haven
#

Some people pick a reward to stop at apparently

plush palm
#

no reason not to grab them tbh

#

theyre usually not thst expensive

vast glade
#

I pick them all too regardless of anything just because they may be useful someday

#

Even if just for bragging rights WEEZing

vagrant ivy
#

attempted lodge Lillie runs with terrify 1 build and trap and sync build respectively

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they ended up around the same if all syncs crit

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which is like 320k

#

non EX

plush palm
#

so about as much as furisode girls

cloud timber
#

what team tho

vagrant ivy
#

chase melony

vagrant ivy
cloud timber
#

dc wally can debuff attack much faster than lodge lillie and simultaneously debuff spdef, dragon claw is far faster than dazzling gleam

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if 3/5

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and has para + eva

vagrant ivy
#

could try that too

vapid kernel
#

The two girlies get 500 and 600K

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And since we are comparing non EX to non EX

warped gulch
#

What about f2p ? I’m already give up on it

scenic grotto
vagrant ivy
#

I already did katherine and blossom runs f2p

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well not blossom yet but I’ll work on it

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not entirely sure yet on egg sylveon replacement if you didn’t play the egg eevee event

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maybe Sonia and melony core? that’s what I usually do for f2p clears anyway

cloud timber
#

if you aren't already using blossom to dual spam with bp barry you should but i'd guess you already do?

vagrant ivy
#

her TM gives gradual healing so I can only dual spam before that point

#

anyways while she could get an extra sync with evasion, if not then she’s probably gonna stay in the low 300k to high 200k range

#

and you know, BP Valerie literally gets more than blossom using the same team

#

still below Katherine but it’s something

cloud timber
#

yea blossom did seem like quite the downgrade from katherine and dual spam possibility is the only potential advantage

#

and if gradual healing is mandatory it's just over

#

already is but at least there'd be that

vagrant ivy
#

sad to see but that’s 2 nodes vs 4 nodes diff

brazen escarp
#

Can the new furisode girl do decent dmg?

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Or any of them

vagrant ivy
#

proven to be worse than Katherine and BP Valerie

brazen escarp
#

Who's katherine?

vagrant ivy
#

go get Katherine while you still can she’s the best for now

brazen escarp
#

The spritzee one?

vagrant ivy
#

she’s literally running for the new years event rerun

vagrant ivy
brazen escarp
#

Oh ok

#

I always get confused between those

#

What supports?

#

Are nc blue and elio fine?

vagrant ivy
#

yeah

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I’d run melony over elio since kath can buff herself

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with tm mpr

brazen escarp
#

I don't have melonu

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Anyways thanks

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Also what reason is there for blossom to get less than valerie

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Given that it is ST and blossom is tech

vagrant ivy
#

don’t judge them by their cover

#

BP Valerie actually has better multipliers

brazen escarp
#

i mean like id assume blossom to have better multis

#

is it worth candying valerie given that katherine is rerunning rn

vagrant ivy
#

you are talking double down 5 + brawn sync 3 + 4 nodes + SEUN on swords dance VS pecking order + dominating sync 5 + 2 nodes

vagrant ivy
vagrant ivy
#

blossom’s sync is 60 BP weaker without tech EX to compensate

brazen escarp
#

also what does egg sylveon do?

vagrant ivy
#

fairy zone

brazen escarp
#

ah cool

#

do all egg eevees have zones?

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or terrain

vagrant ivy
#

yes

brazen escarp
#

oh nice

#

so which team would get more, nc blue elio katherine/valerie or egg sylveon bp barry and katherine/valerie

brazen escarp
#

what about katherine vs valerie

vagrant ivy
#

Katherine should be better

scenic grotto
# scenic grotto

Redid the battle once more
Got 759k because of RNG
Didn’t like the 9
Ended up having to use better gear than 3* fairy because I couldn’t get the same RNG again
Got that lucky RNG again
Ending up with a score of 792k

All I can say is CURSE YOU NINE!

brazen escarp
brazen escarp
vagrant ivy
brazen escarp
vagrant ivy
#

nothing special

scenic grotto
brazen escarp
spiral fog
#

Unrelated but anyone know why I can't post picture here?

brazen escarp
#

u odnt have the trainer role

spiral fog
vagrant ivy
#

support EX can match fairy zone

brazen escarp
#

ah well alright

#

but like fairy zone is a flat 50% so like with 4 sync buffs wont it be equivalent of 6

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vs with support after 4 syncs u would have 5 sync buffs

light bluff
#

Need help

#

I’m getting 144k only

plush palm
#

yeah youre def doing smth wrong

#

lillie should be doing way more than that

light bluff
#

Anyone can demo how to play this comp?

#

200k new score RoxanneThis

scenic grotto
#

The issue is that SS Wally and H Lillie are 1/5
They aren’t fully gridded, meaning they aren’t at their full power

light bluff
#

So, 200k is the best 1/5 can do?

sacred badger
# light bluff

move levels could probably help but hrm its tough. do they have their EXRs?

light bluff
icy pendant
#

Lillie has an innate and she’s still probably doing decent damage just from B moves tbh

sacred badger
#

hum yeah lillie's bmove actually hits harder

#

her first sync is potato though.

#

her succeeding ones, its probably better on top of FZ

cursive linden
#

So, FZ after she syncs?

spiral halo
vast glade
#

Chase Best Boy

#

Saying that for no reason other than I like him and it makes me happy seeing he being used

#

Hopefully he gets an alt soon

fluid tendon
sacred badger
#

my actual nuker would be Pal Serena though.

#

Pal Serena is at 330 with Inertia + Paralyzed Innate.
Her is Brainpower + SPD, but her sync damage is 220 iirc o.o;
But yeah, her DPS is better so wait for FZ is up and you've used 2 support EX syncs

#

Just use her bmove after her initial sync

lethal siren
#

Katherine is spammablr?

#

I am waiting for day when furisode girls get their exes like other pair up event pairs did

acoustic chasm
#

Summer Marnie rep

viscid lion
#

Can someone help me with a team for this? So far my max is 260k

#

these two are my only good fairy pairs

true locust
sullen zephyr
#

Without any 3/5 fairy i dont think it's possible to get very high. You probably can reach 500k at most.

sullen zephyr
plush palm
#

very rng heavy and requires exr chase tho

sullen zephyr
#

1/5 ss gladion can't really do anything against 1 target. Maybe drop him and put a status spammer in there.

plush palm
#

alternatively exr wally

viscid lion
#

unfortunatly i don't been playing the game on and off and missed chase

plush palm
#

got nc blue?

viscid lion
#

i do

sullen zephyr
#

Ss wally can provide both zone and rebuff so he can probably deal decent damage despite lacking 3/5

plush palm
#

should be able to hit 500k

#

h lillie?

viscid lion
#

nope didn't realize she was good so i skipped her

#

i realize now that was a mistake

#

but i always skip seasonal pairs unless i really want them

sullen zephyr
#

Nah you're fine. There are f2p options that can do what she does, just not as efficient.

plush palm
#

slot in nc blue instead of chase

true locust
#

Nc blue and melony

sullen zephyr
viscid lion
#

does melony need ex?

sullen zephyr
#

Nc blue and melony are solid. Just slot in a third ontype damage dealer and you're set for most DC stages.

plush palm
#

she def wants it but probably not

sullen zephyr
plush palm
#

introduces more variance tho

viscid lion
#

alr

sullen zephyr
#

Are you aware of status spamming already?

viscid lion
#

i'm assumming i just sing spam?

plush palm
#

hes

#

yes

sullen zephyr
#

It's spamming a gauge-sustainable status move when the opp is already statused, so it fails and you can quickly burn through the countdown to the next sync

viscid lion
#

oh ic

sullen zephyr
#

You're sync rushing essentially

plush palm
#

forget everything you used in other modes

#

dc plays completely differently

sullen zephyr
#

Except for a few cases, normal moves are not viable in DC because the literal dps is too low

#

You have 180 seconds to deal the most dmg and sync is usually the highest dps option you have

#

Check pins for more info and general tips

vapid kernel
#

Tried dps strat hm

viscid lion
crude sandal
#

What's the best score with H. Lillie now?

vapid kernel
#

@teal haven ss mina better

#

EXR though

viscid lion
#

Starting to see the vision

vagrant ivy
#

at a glance there appears to be much room for optimization tho

plush palm
#

unless you wanna give a SEUP + barry comp a shot

#

idk if itd be higher than nc blue melony tho

pallid girder
#

Pykuo did all f2p on almost every types the first time too.
Thanks to them the doc is not lacking pure f2p showcase barring some exceptions.

plush palm
#

you might be able to get a wxtra ss wally sync in w/ para luck on the nc blue comp i guess

hybrid lagoon
#

Why cant i reach 1m?

plush palm
hybrid lagoon
#

No, but i hv nc blue

pallid girder
#

If you didn't mess up anything I'd imagine it's mostly crit chance.

vagrant ivy
#

pykuo includes all genpool 5* so he gets to use better strats like sing spam

brazen escarp
#

what does chase do?

pallid girder
#

Para + support sprint combo + special circle + team eva

#

For special dd Chase is almost always better enabler than NC Blue or other choices.

brazen escarp
#

but i thought nc blue is also for special dd?

#

then what would blue be used for

#

only if u dont have chase?

pallid girder
#

Special circle has better sync boost than NC Blue & NC Blue's +6 spatk is mostly useless for recent dds (all +6 themselves).
He's still better in physical coz we don't have physical Chase yet.

brazen escarp
#

he is better in physical cuz of sync boost?

#

and the fact that he paras?

#

anyways thanks

pallid girder
#

The day when physical Chase is made NC Blue will be outclassed in both sides and only remain "general" if you don't have those better options.

vapid kernel
#

Here idk why but NC Blue helped me score more than Chase

vapid kernel
pallid girder
fallen trail
#

so is lillie’s smun tile worth using?

fallen trail
#

i got a team i wanna try

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
dense gate
#

I expected more tbh but good enough

true locust
#

H lillie would give more daze

dense gate
#

I have her but at 1/5 and no cake

true locust
#

She give super up next any way

#

No cake its same like melony

dense gate
#

Actually was a bit better with Lillie

safe prawn
#

@quaint timber did you take the family pic? 📸

true locust
safe prawn
fallen trail
#

improvable

#

the fairy zone ran out right before the last b move

#

this is with the smun tile

#

imma try without

quaint timber
#

more hoenn in that screenshot than in 2024

fallen trail
#

got more syncs in but it didnt make up for the b move’s raw damage at +10 smun

#

its close tho

fluid anvil
#

hmm i expected 10/5 SS Wally to easily reach like 4,5M or 5M+. His SpAtk is monstrous

fallen trail
#

unfortunately can’t get a run where i can take advantage of the seun from her 3rd b move

#

time runs out before i can get another sync

#

volo is a good addition here though… probably lillie’s best partner if no ss wally/uninvested ss wally

true locust
#

Plus lillie b move is slow need alot miss even in normal run.

#

Wally Sa if was power up sync and extend fairy zone and head 2 extra would be it for score

royal jolt
#

Just getting to this now

vast glade
#

Better considering my SS Mina has no EXR

#

I was lucky to get some para and evasion hax

fallen trail
#

oh yeah, with my redemption on st fairy i finally have 1 mil on every stage DahliaCheer

royal jolt
#

Yayyyy!

royal jolt
icy pendant
#

must be nice not needing to wait for the second rerun of bug and rock 3v1 but this time I’m prepared with 3/5 SS Hilbert and 3/5 EXR SS Diantha

vernal condor
#

I've also gotten 1m on fairy finally

sacred badger
#

still can't do much with rock single :<

vernal condor
#

Gordie

icy pendant
#

I could’ve done Gordie at any time if I had the spare spirits to EX mine 😭

vernal condor
#

EX him now

icy pendant
#

well I’m EXing SS Hilbert and SS Roxie this week if I don’t need an EX for HSE

#

I am holding 130 spirits, you caught me at the highest I’ve ever been without intentionally saving

vernal condor
#

It's ok, guild will allow to trade material

icy pendant
#

that just sounds like an alt paradise

#

one of the major things I’ve learned from being in a fan reboot of Defender of Texel (an old DeNA game I played back in the day before it EOSed) was that trade system was incredibly exploitable by multiaccounters

vernal condor
#

I guess so

#

You can make it so only accounts that are old enough and have a certain PR can join guilds

royal jolt
#

That's how I got 1M first time

I do not know why I didn't use SS Diantha, despite having her at 3/5 😭

vernal condor
royal jolt
#

I KNOW

#

😭

#

I went through all the struggle with GORDIE

sacred badger
#

i might have to use SS DIantha then :x

vernal condor
#

Can't do worse than my 0 point on ice 3v3 MinaBreak

sacred badger
#

i figured Selene Alt could do it but

#

Tech Nuke really does really well.

royal jolt
#

On single rock?

sacred badger
#

yeah

royal jolt
#

She's kinda a 3v3 unit

sacred badger
#

at least now diantha has EXR

#

3R shoudl be enough for 1mil right?

#

with like, SC Steven & a support EX

#

like iunno.... SS Gio Alt? D:

royal jolt
sacred badger
#

hum before i go all in though

sacred badger
#

i might try Gordie + SS Gio Alt + Colress ;x

icy pendant
#

ah wonderful

#

I love Celesteela the flying type being used on ice DC

vernal condor
#

(i threw the team just to get gems and forgot to actually do the dc later for the score)

royal jolt
#

How good is Liza's nuke?

#

That's a real high score

vernal condor
#

so good it overflows

royal jolt
#

I guess I should go all in on my Liza then
She's 2/5

fallen trail
still hearth
#

Yall what’s my best option

fallen trail
#

dang you have good picks just insufficient move levels

royal jolt
sacred flower
empty stone
#

Is Nemona my best pick or am I missing something from one of the others?

icy pendant
#

though Nemona Haymaker + circle sync is probably pretty close as well

still hearth
sacred flower
#

Wally should have a stronger sync

empty stone
#

I feel dumb, what is SEUN?

sacred flower
#

super effective up next

sacred badger
#

actually

#

what's on our DC Horizon

#

NC Red gaming, NC Leaf gaming, NC Hop gaming, and a super sparring 😮

still hearth
sacred badger
#

i think i'

#

ll do pretty well this time around

#

(Shauna's the one that has problems! D:)

cloud timber
still hearth
#

Alrighty

cloud timber
#

well

sacred flower
cloud timber
#

with 1/5 it's actually harder to tell

fallen trail
#

wally has mega sync tho

#

for 1/5 im not sure if hes better than lillie

cloud timber
#

but still lillie can provide seun for wally sync and preserve her own for her b moves

#

you'll still have to try both to be certain

sacred flower
#

with over 600 sp.atk, Wally sure win over Lillie

#

even 1/5 lol

still hearth
#

Too bad he doesn’t get anything notable at 2/5 AshGoodGrief

cloud timber
#

mega sync bp is still bad enough to throw it into question in the first place

#

gobsmack lillie is very worth, can still grind out for confusion for all syncs plus crits but leaving this for now

cobalt jetty
#

"maybe I should be clicking the button on wally instead"

fallen trail
#

might be the best i can do w this

#

well

#

there is ONE thing i could try

#

i have 1 second left at the last sync that i usually just moonblast for... i could roll for the 1/10 hyper beam from volo...

#

assuming he still has seun it would be a bit stronger

thick stump
#

90% of gamblers quit before they hit big

fluid tendon
fallen trail
#

chase, lillie, volo, lillie

thick stump
#

would chase volo lillie not be better

#

if he 2nd syncs shouldnt fz last til the end of the battle

#

or am i wrong

fallen trail
#

i did try that

#

but the fz ran out

thick stump
#

aw

#

do you use metronome? or nah

fallen trail
#

no

#

too slow

thick stump
#

fair

fluid tendon
#

I was able to hit 1.45 mil (though I was running penny over chase) by going lillie, penny, volo, volo to preserve seun on lillie's b move and allow volo to make use of it for his syncs. One less sync than I could've hit unfortunately but a double para would do the trick in my case

#

I'm not patient enough to fish for zap cannon that many times tho

#

Ok never mind, double para left me with .01 seconds for a third volo sync. Could've been higher if I'd waited to use the circle until volo's second sync but I'll take it

scenic grotto
acoustic chasm
#

I tried some teams with hlillie as the DD but none can top summer marnie MarnieMusicLilliePout

cloud timber
#

yeah once

scenic grotto
# cloud timber yeah once

Right, I need to figure out how I can turn my 790k into 1 million with as little additional investment as possible ^^;
1/5 SS Wally
3/5 EXR SS Nemona (690k)
1/5 EXR H Lillie (100k)

acoustic chasm
#

No wally sync? I don't have him so idk if it's worth using his B move for the rebuff

cloud timber
#

it is

#

even if you can't afford to have it under zone

#

which i do, not use his first sync with zone

scenic grotto
# acoustic chasm No wally sync? I don't have him so idk if it's worth using his B move for the re...

I sync with H Lillie and then SS Wally following this video

https://youtu.be/Mk92obmdwX0?si=ccnYzZseHkbUoPLF

Correction on the upload from yesterday, that wasn’t the best strategy as long as I wasn’t getting 5th (maybe possible) sync. Lillie just does such an insane amount of damage for a spammer, and while that B Move is painfully slow, during 3v3 Fairy is still is good to use because of the crazy damage output!

The primary change from 2.8M run is r...

▶ Play video
fallen trail
#

since she needs +6 speed for max sync

fluid tendon
#

Volo syncs

#

He has brain sync + the tech exr and more importantly allows lillie to boost her b move with seun

#

Lillie gradually boosts her speed for ramming speed with her tm + each b move use

fallen trail
#

interesting

#

lillie's syncs should do more than volo's though

#

she has more multipliers even though she doesnt have tech exr

#

though again, she needs time to set up +6 speed

#

that could be the issue

fluid tendon
#

Yeah but since her b move is doing more than her sync I'd rather hit that with the seun

#
cloud timber
#

ice triple next already, guess 2/5 nc red outdamages hala? stuck on that again

vapid kernel
#

U can use both technically

#

First sync nc red

#

I think Hala is better than NC red if below 3/5 ?

cloud timber
#

ah yea hm

#

i think 2/5 red could outdo but i'll try both

#

still strike/tech with innate since exr and one of his passives can count as an innate

#

but hala can technically farm seun

fallen trail
#

oh yeah

#

i have 5/5 ss n

#

hmm

#

is he gonna beat red

#

his nuke takes a while to set up...

plush palm
#

faster w/ sc steven i think

fallen trail
#

oh true

#

there's an idea

plush palm
#

tho that doesnt debuff spatk

fallen trail
#

he might have to noble roar once

#

he should attack once for paralysis

#

thats 4 b moves though thats a lotttt

#

idk if that'll beat red's fast setup

plush palm
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idk what options there are besides nc leaf

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that are also not ghetsis

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sorry idk

cloud timber
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at least grid mults aren't too bad to setup, just need status and spa down which you can get off a single b move while negating speed buffs

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so you're looking for attack drop options to save time

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or set up with just n and maximize his damage without using a faster option

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also too bad even max overcap is short of getting ss n maximum sync damage plus soften up

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by 1

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could end up on like grusha and oleana for optimal team lol

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take the triple poison time cost to compress aoe attack drop and spam

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and it makes getting gauge less difficult

crude sandal
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Not sure how I could do things differently

royal jolt
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I do not know how I got this score first try

I'm trying to improve it, but I keep running out of time 😭

crude sandal
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Best team for this DC or DC Blue better spammer than Lillie and also providing extra circle boost to Chase?

pallid girder
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Any fairy zone user is better. Even the egg one.

crude sandal
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Not this one

long silo
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If you are able to sneak 5 syncs with Red while still having Lillie BMove for the last sync, it would probably be better

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Then again even if not, the extra Support EXR might also prove better? RosaThink

crude sandal
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Lillie is easier to spam than Blue as well

pallid girder
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Lol I think you bring NC Red for his master passive coz HLillie is known for hit way harder with bmove than sync.

long silo
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Certainly worth a try

royal jolt
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Tried a DPS run

long silo
crude sandal
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Extra circle boost and MF passive vs. support EXR and SEUN

royal jolt
long silo
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Which also reminds me. 3v3 Fighting is next week. I need godly gears

royal jolt
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good point

pallid girder
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They said this dc and showed the current one so I was confused.
Yeah I think HLillie will win in the end coz possibly one more sync.

royal jolt
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it would've been nice to use Sina, but I lack her EXR

crude sandal
long silo
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Oh I missed that one. I only went from this SophoKEK

royal jolt
crude sandal
royal jolt
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yup

crude sandal
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Hmmm

royal jolt
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the most I can get right now is 18, so

crude sandal
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Also, fire 3v1 next week. So it's either champion time or champion time

long silo
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Wrong!

crude sandal
cloud timber
royal jolt
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that does appear to be the case

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I was rushing around irl while doing it and just saw that I got 2M 😭

crude sandal
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Also Lillie can give 1 SpMUN to Red too upon syncing

pallid girder
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We need one spam unit for every types before eos!

cunning rock
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Does the status nullfication delay still trigger in ranked DC if you try Sing spamming in Electric Terrain?

royal jolt
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that's actually a good question...

cloud timber
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dunno if anyone tried that specifically, i'd guess it still doesn't work but it's not like we can check right now

cunning rock
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True. Thought someone would have tried that before.

royal jolt
pallid girder
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I mean spam on a para'd opponent is the same as spam in et (they're just failed in the end) so I'd assume it'll meet the same issue.

cloud timber
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bc if anyone did it's pretty likely they wouldn't have even mentioned

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if ofc it didn't work

crude sandal
cloud timber
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yea

dry whale
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Good enough. Every time I got the perfect sequence I would always miss an important Crit and I'm tired of grinding it out.

This run, Lillie miss her Crit, Wally missed his first Crit. Final sync did not have confusion.

Waiting on Triple Ice, I need some redemption on that one the RNG broke me last time. Well won't be the same Holiday Lillie would give more wiggle room.

https://youtu.be/_GjZ1CKWE5o?si=A8G9SWz4S5rcm4aG

fallen trail
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i just got cheren to 3/5

crude sandal
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Who's the 2nd best after Red? Sina or SS N?

fallen trail
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i need to constantly save 900 tickets in case n is next

teal haven
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If I were to use SSN for ice 3v3: would it be better to get SEUN from N's Bmove or Lillie's

acoustic chasm
cloud timber
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well there we go

fallen trail
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we'll have to see if it can be optimized

acoustic chasm
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That was the idea

cunning rock
fallen trail
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super sparring not for another 10 days and yall already brainstorming

teal haven
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the grind never stops

long silo
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I'm ready for Super Sparring

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Psychic: Lear
Steel: Lear
Dark: Lear

crude sandal
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Hmmm, I would've thought Dexio is better for psychic 3v1

pallid girder
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Thankfully I have SSAG now whom I assume is essentially an upgrade of Aaron.

long silo
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||I will replace Lodge Lear with Archer after but I need the triple Lear run||

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Also Dexio is indeed better on 3v1

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I just don't have him lol

fallen trail
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who does

long silo
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That one JP dude who four-shotted Terrakion