#Damage Challenge
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Fairly fast? On the scale of sing spam to Gigantic Rock Tomb yes it is fairly fast, but why compromise when you can go faster?
https://youtu.be/AV5ZAYz5G0Q?si=uK7K1zCGLzX8-BTq still 1/5 v hop's best team even on normal dc
this strat was used in super sparring due to no status conditions... turns out for a 1/5 hop it's still his best team lol. at 3/5 you can just sync spam w him. exr on adaman mattered, there really is no time to waste
grids/lucky skills: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=028400047000&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=16010404&t0=4444&x0=true&g0=AAECAw...
“there’s no time to waste” he says… true…
You manage to get a whole extra sync in. That's what will close the gap
Tbh, Brendan TM kinda fast if maxed out
Considering my only grass damage dealers are adaman and Brendan I'll take this
Finished with 1,196,360, so I can settle for that
the dire hits are useless
It's really not
do i send units
That one is too slow
You need a spammer
Are you copying the videos
which videos
you used 2 dire hit +s and blue's tm, one of those is in fact useless
Yeah and I stopped doing that and I got the last sync in
I had quite a bit more time the second attempt somehow even though my run was mostly the same. But at least it worked out in the end
It is an extra 20%
Yea but -6 def would do more no?
no
para + gauge for melony + 20% from passive + -2 defenses on sync
which consumes minimal time compared to manually debuffing
while simultaneously enabling one of the fastest sync rush methods in the game
it does not
just blue's sync boost passive
but its a flat 20% so its essentially like putting an extra cs2 on your pair
which is pretty good
yep
Oh master passive just boosts attack moves? Man
Good opportunity to put SS Giovanni (Alt) to work
which will benefit more for Mix Red who will just sync spam? the SpAtk +20 tile and a couple of SpAtk +5 tiles, or the 2nd +25 Sync Damage tile
Usually, move pwr is better, but you can check yourself on Pomatools dmg calc
Tried to make Giovanni work with acerola but I'm always a bit short
Well well
yeah that makes more sense
Gg congrats! That’s a great run tbh
Aoe spd debuffs for sync 
Wow terrible
Well now got Milo
He still doesn’t have ex role
I have a suspicion it will be field
VHop but pokefair 
I would like tech but idk how much that would fix him support would be good so its not as much of a detriment to sync with him 💀
I hope he gets field
his Sync grid shouts field
Imo he’s getting field which also fits rillaboom in the main games
Tech role should give a 50% damage bonus and an innate sync multiplier depending on the sync pair, sad it doesn’t lol. Also Support Tech should just gain a passive that reduces all damage done to them by like 15% lol
That wudve been cool but wudve been a lot of extra work for Dena 
If u know u know
Expectation Support Tech EXR: they become like Lyra and Dawn with innate
Reality: not 200% conditoional boost but 150% for free
How does one use giovani in DC?
like bp barry and colress he needs 3/5 for gaugeless spam (infliction freebie 9)
but the symun boost ends up not being worth even the minimal time it takes to activate it so he's not the best option unless you need dark zone
and he's ok if you're not allowed to use status but still not optimal if not dark
which usually every super sparring has
for his gauge issues you kinda have to use him w/ smth like chase or bianca
if you aint using infliction freebie
Victor gets field exr will also make sense with his sa passive: entry GT & max GT, both don't hinder post sync GT.
They will make an event to give Gloria and Victor ex role (Gloria sprint Victor field) imo
Yes
3v1’s are in Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday
3v3’s are in Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday
All because a week is 7 days instead of 6 or 8
Single fairy next
revenge time
Singing mermaid sea lion time
Yep
H Lillie time (along with SS Nemona and SS Wally)
Me no H lilly
First SS wally match with his sprint role
Or he already got last time single dc came?
He already got it last time
They should've made both 1 week long but every week we got 2 DCs (1 MT & 1 ST).
Hlilie shouldn’t be that bad by herself as a DPS/nuker if fully invested
But I wanna our hero skippingmud with his 10/5 SSWally being on top of the chart
Wally's interference sync tile is kinda annoying
Speaking of, why doesn't HLillie use her B-Move as often as I thought? The clears I saw only used it once or twice
it takes up time
B moves are SLOW
like sometimes on evasion comps you can afford to use it more if youre lucky asf
generallys better to get a extra sync in tho
SSdiantha and SSTred have been teaching us how long b moves can be 
Use it when u hv 30 seconds-36 seconds left before last sync
Which happens a lot for Chase Lillie build
I mean dir something like SS Steven probably is worth,but generally not unless dark
yea very unusual case
Can't think of much units with good syncs but bad sync multipliers, maybe NC Marnie, but she's dark, so is even more obvious
I guess maybe it could work with something like 3/5 Gloria
non exr does at least exist too
I mean if you are lacking the best options, I guess Giovanni may make something more viable
Like for steel AOE, not sure if 3/5 ex Gloria is better than 5/5 ex colress if you add Giovanni to the mix
yeah you have to dig for potential cases that also aren't proven yet or if they work how much
just to be better than bp barry/colress, at least to my knowledge
Is 3/5 v hop or 3/5 adaman sync nuke better in 3v3 grass dc?
Is your Hop EXR?
Debating, I have the strike cake but not sure I wanna use it on him
If caked Hop undoubtedly takes it but otherwise I think it's a lot closer, I haven't followed this rotation super closely since I've been sick for most of it
Alright thank you!
Hop has the highest ceiling. Almost all 3+ Mln clears need him
Yeah that makes sense I just wasn't sure whether or not those runs used hops sync nuke. I really wish they gave adaman strike ex role but it is what it is.
Accidentally rolled an amazing gear for Steven while trying to do the Team Rocket battle, lmao
Nice 🙂
For both og and anni lol
I was looking through my damage challenge clears to see what types would benefit from a “physical version of NC Blue”
Like Arc Steven but with gauge support and paralysis
Water and Dark uses Elio for attack and sp. attack buffs to NC Serena
Psychic uses Elio for Lear’s rising tide multiplier (or would H Lillie be better?)
Hala, Olivia, Gordie, Courtney, and OG Cynthia would benefit from a “physical NC Blue”
any physical attacker that also uses nc blue will benefit from phys nc blue
which is a whole lot of them
NC Bianca is the closest we got right now.
True
Right, with Sonia being next closest
try arc steven w/o that obnoxious healing passive
which was annoying asf on my colress teams
Unfortunately I do not have Arc Steven
For most of my teams going forward I will mainly have 2 paralysis users and 2 sing users
Redlax or NC Blue for para depending on if main attacker needs quick Sp. Attack/Crit buffs (or they can give themselves SEUN after every sync)
Elio or H Lillie for sing spam depending on if I’m using NC Serena, Lear, or some other unit
For ice weak, ground weak, and rock weak I either need better sync nukers or pull a unit like Arc Steven
Sorry if no-one cares ^^;
This is the closest I have to something like that and I can use it for like 2 pairs maybe
My chance for Fairy 3v1 1M
Honestly egg Sylveon is probably a better 3rd pair
You could easily get 1.5m probably with just chase and Lillie tbh
3/5 HLillie can hit decently herself. Other bad f2p techs are just gonna drag her down.
tbh if that was my best fairy nuke i might run that team too (but i have ss wally)
Oh?
katherine setup is too slow for too little payoff, removing her saves a ton of time and you can build way more sync buffs
think that'll be best unless you have a better fairy enhancer (zoner) somewhere else
or nc blue
sync passive won't accomplish much there though
I am Barbie the destroyer of worlds
nice nice
4* is enough right?
1* is enough tbh
I guess that speed is gonna matter
4* will be good when we get gauntlet back
ehh i think chase and lillie could work off just their own speed
Yes the thing is f2p fairy techs ALL have bad multipliers for dc.
Using them and set their sync up is a big time wasting.
easy SSR Cynthia gear right ther
RIP :(
Yes
I will use ss mina as 3rd
Would any of these units be able to get 1 million damage on either ST or MT if they were given either Tech Cake or Strike Cake?
Olivia-Yes
SC Hilda-Probably yes
Kukui-
Summer Steven-No (Shit inante)
Holiday Leon-No (Shit innate)
Ghetsis-Yes
Holiday Nessa-????
Hala-Yes
Bertha-Probably
Thank you for the answer
nessa is a no, hail cuts too much time and the innate is the only buff besides soften up
bertha's also a no bc both sand and trap reliant though still sounds slightly better off than h nessa
actually she can get strike cake, thought she'd get tech exr but strike cake was a part of initial question
still sucks to apply aoe trap
Hala HAD 1M in MT alr.
yea just needed nc blue + melony
bianca + colress may be even better
same could potentially save enough time for bertha to get her to 1m with theoretical strike cake
Sprint EXR , theme skills plus i can sync with Mina to conserve Lillie SE up
Also u just set up fairy zone once
Right but would him getting tech EX allow him to get 1 million in ST?
FAIRY KINGDOM ACTIVATES EVERY SYNC
no shot
he barely scratches 1m at CS2 5 syncs

Unfortunate but fair enough
Hopefully a combination of H Lillie and Redlax will make getting that 1 million damage slightly easier
👍🏼
Champion has lots of busted units
Why Katherine while you have 3/5 h Lillie? Isn't Lillie sync stronger?
for the gits and shiggles i suppose
wait its ice rn?
@lone pond your time to shine
that's tomorrow though

of course the run where I have Chase tanking is a new PB, I’ll have to revisit this later but at least I’m not sub-1m on this rotation anymore
Looks good
for a Chase tank team and not adjusting my gear yeah it’s fine
man. whose a better nuker, Palentine Serena or..... Holiday Lillie?
or both? o.o?
i guess i can 3/5 Holiday Lillie and go from there hrm.
Chase and Holiday lillie it is mmhmm
any shenanigans to be had w this tile
We'll see tomorrow then kuku
Yeap
Well, good thing I have all 3 of them and at the right move level too
Wally lol
I see
Grid Wally with Discombobulate?
Have you tested how many syncs they can go?
my wally only 1/5 so i gotta nuke w lillie
Good
Single Fairy next?
HLillie striking herself next yes.
Are these the grids/ls for Hol. Lillie?
My Wally and HoLillie are both 1/5. Gladion time again lol
ss wally by far
Maybe remove special move next stuff
i dont think she can get 1 mil with just syncs
I don't know much abt her
need cs2/sp3 to boost b move dmg as much as possible
yeah her b move will be more damaging
its higher bp, you can stack the smun, and she doesnt have tech exr
i think brainpower is her only multiplier
yeah thats good
lillie can maybe do this
i might try h lillie/chase/volo
my ss wally is only 1/5
Would you get dc hop or dc marnie if you have all of the others at 3/5?
Grass gear cs2
question, which of the DC pairs should I bring to 3/5 first?
None
???
All of them are mediocre at best
But maybe if I had to choose, maybe DC Blue if you have Chase
Depends on the gamemode you’re trying to optimize for, if you’re going for more DC optimizations then Blue probably is the best
the pairs are still definitely better than the orbs once you have all DC pairs at 1/5
Is H. Lillie like 2nd best DD for later?
I do have Chase.
do you confuse at the start?
so no interference sync?
Before sync
You confuse
Alright
Because confuse cures after little time
i've found 3/5 dc gladion to be very helpful for rally and lg but dc blue actually has dc use with chase
but 3/5 dc wally can debuff speed and offenses which has use everywhere
sets para for h lillie/elio
i'd still do gladion > wally > blue personally
Gladion is awesome, Cheren and Barry have been in a similar boat for me of “awesome in LG”
DC Gladion is good in this HSE too
blue just gains befuddle 1 for dc which can be very helpful but that's it, more tricky to make him work anywhere else too
i used gladion in hse yeah
ice zone boosted triple axel w chase down 5 on his grid hits pretty hard
he needs atk buffs though
i'm waiting for Pal Serena + Holiday Lillie clears xD
that's her DPS lol
no, for other damage dealers
Hlillie hitting 500k even without 3/5 inspires confidence, I can finally hit 1M on Fairy ST DC.
it is zone + rebuff boosted but if you have 1/5 ss wally she'll still do the same
Yeah, I also have SS Wally
nice
she can hit 500k alone?
HMMMM
i used the wally to destroy the wally
~ wally, 2025
Invert had SS Wally that's -1 Fairy Rebuff and Fairy Zone
i wonder something
hmmm
should i use penny and holillie and do risky shit or do i just use another status setter
you'd probably need a +3 Crit for Holiday Lillie tbh.
HLillie's condition is good for it
penny is worth using over a paralyzer i believe?
i'm... gonna try Chase 2R, Holiday Lillie 1R and Palentine Serena
fairy comps traditionally just want to stack as much fairy stuff as possible
see if i can crack at it.
lmao my first try with this team and i got a fleur cannon miss
i get a miss on st but not on 3v3
sounds 1m capable to me, forgot how close pal serena has got in the past exactly but it might have been over 900k
and lillie gives team seun boosts
I got her to 700k iirc with chase and penny
I think
Oh. Chase and zapdos
THAT'S DAMAGE
10/5 real
poverty teams for st fairy dc looking kinda sad...
Hum. If i use penny , serena and hollie, cant nuke hard with serena hrm
yea for accessible options fairy st is very dry
Who needs SS Wally
@sacred badger
me because ss wally based
FREEDOM. But tbh, you need a lot for HLillie to reach 1M. I had to SEUN every HLillie sync except the first. And SEUN'd her B Move before the time
Hrm
Sync on Hol Lillie at first and last sync
Can u show Lillie's grid
With my Fairy 3v1 being 1M, my non-1M score is now both Grass 3v1 (will be fixed with VHilda) and Rock 3v1, my mortal enemy
Thanks 
No problem
should prob be doing every sync with lillie, should still be stronger than eggmon even without grid help
other than chase sync ofc
SEUN is for b move, no?
Or what you mean is b move them sync, even when the sync is ready?
Lemme do that
What's the best score right now?
Well, range of 3M or close to it
I would assume 9/5 Wally can reach 4m?
That's obvious 
Hard tell me wat super have damage ? Ask skipp😏 maybe he can reach or not
Wally is pain in ass set up
Confusion zone rebuff
get out as many syncs as you can with lillie but reserve time to use all 3 b moves after her last sync
is how i'd approach it
why don't you 10/5 him to get an even higher score
time to see how it goes
Didn't work well
You wanna maximise Hol. Lillie's DPS instead
Oh?
i didn't say change grid
Since sadly he is not the best wally. Set up him cost you one more sync. Plus if i get 854-980k from sync super would make not big diffrence for my score
I didn't
I didn't say that i changed my grid
I'll try this instead
Might work
eggmon was doing 26k on your original screenshot which seems like a waste
I need to get god gears for Fighting next week
Rip. I dunt have enough to EXR holiday lillie
gear mattered
eggmon is still eggmon even with seun
too poor to give blossom CS2… LG when
Impressive
I don’t do that the rates are too bad
I just do sst red ss hau up to area 5 for 1 stars
only takes 3 minutes but well you’ll mostly get cheap skills
guess it is what it is
missed 2 crits
Well it's something lol
bad rates are better than no rates
If I got a para I could get another sync in
vo lol
serena crit nicely
also..... Serena had +4 SMUN, she hit for 90k. cackles
@icy scroll ^
i actually tghought my holiday lillie didnt have her exr
had 10 secs left at the end
F2p fairy is rough
(still lower than bug ST)
best i'm getting
💀
for 3/5 he hits really hard
We just got another fairy tech again and still not better than the one released last year.
Sadly the ex on free npc in datamine is false.
maybe if we made her sustain spam on her own
if i actually used lillie's second b move anywhere besides 1 on the sync counter i coulda fit in an extra smun for lillie's last b move
also a +6e grid could exchange gobsmack for b move tiles and +20 spa but i'm not willing to invest and grind that hard
also only got interference sync for a single sync lol
could grid gobsmack on lillie......
someone else can do that though, don't need the higher score for anything
you think lillie + gladion would be more or less than lille + egg sylveon
the icon seems to be in the files but it just isnt being used. might be intentional or a oversight. maybe some flag just isnt flipped or smth like that
or maybe they just want her ex pose in the game but not the ex
I'd be down for the free characters to get EXes down the road, they need all the help they can get
she already is tbh
shed be way less rng heavy at least
We'll get the first ever speial ground aoe with sightseer ex.
meanwhile half the gym leaders out here begging outside the soup kitchen for any spare EXs
most miserable part if a eve solo is all thise ridicures that refuse to proc
im all for less miserable bar 1s
yeah eve could use the improvement for sure
using her on latias was maybe the longest solo i've ever attempted and cleared
latias bar 2 is ppretty smooth sailing
1st go
Nice! 
Double striker is rare but cool
mmhmm
Wait, do you just spam Sing and hope for misses or fish for para with Volo's B move?
Good enough
egg sylveon carry
First time I've ever gotten 2 syncs in the first minute
Woah no Gladion?
I thought you needed his sync multipliers for this
I wanna try Marnie with HLillie but who's gonna debuff sp.atk?
Hm, Discourage 2 + 1x discharge from NC Blue + 3 spirit breaks?
Why they gave her freaking ripple effect instead of an extra -1 😭
just one more dodge
first sync didnt crit
so missing 40-50k or so
i dont feel like resetting for that
750kish seems to be his limit
What's a good third for hlillie/Chase? Don't have egg Sylveon and don't have SSmina at 3/5
sc steven
penny?
if you dont have penny ofc
Oh Penny still works? Okay, what does she do here again? Sorry it's been a bit
-1 fairy rebuff and some Sp. Def. drops
-2 if she's 5/5
If she's 10/5, then you practically get a sprint EX for her
ok yeah then idk why youd use anything other than penny
Bleh.
blue has head start cookie, Lillie her custom cookie
Sync order: blue-lillie×5
Only use x speed once from blue once (might be able to skip it all together idk). Should get 1st lillie sync in at about 2:00 left. Use first wish right before lillie's 2nd sync (about 1:40 left). Use B move before syncs 3-5, and replenish fairy zone before it fades because the end animation takes up time (probably around 0:45 left). Last sync will be last 1-4sec left
Oh shit I forgot about hau that could probably get my score up ~50k maybe
@vapid kernel
Oh yeah Blue is 66/70 btw
I mean, there's also Adaman custom cookie
lol is her custom cookie actually good here
Usually the customs are bad to my understanding
I should be getting more I think
Am I not supposed to click starry night disarming voice?
...okay yeah that cookie seems brokey Lol
Question is, how will Adaman get sun for his 1st sync when grass 3v1 comes?
SS Acerola
Rn only way is supp -> Adaman
Cant supp -> supp -> Adaman
Does he need Drought Alert or not?
If running 2x support
I dont remember tbh
i don't think sun for first sync is worth it even with solar flare
I dont even know if he needed even with 1 supp
I think for 1 supp it is worthy
Especially use him with Dahlia
i couldn't get it to work even with just one support but i'm going off multi attempts so
Got it from the event rewards
40% sync boost
Better. Idk what I'm doing wrong tho. I did put the cookie on at least
Completly forgot Lillie's cookie and up using critical strike instead 
So used to those being useless, aside Arc Cynthia's that one time lol
Here's my results
Might try again with Lillie's better LS
the answer ofc is to dodge more moves
Hey you got 1m, my 1.4m only got 8 more tickets than you so who's to say if it's worth it (besides pride ig)
Also on a somewhat unrelated note but I always get the cookie even if I don't have the unit because OCD is a curse
Not that we have a choice nowadays lol
Some people pick a reward to stop at apparently
I pick them all too regardless of anything just because they may be useful someday
Even if just for bragging rights 
attempted lodge Lillie runs with terrify 1 build and trap and sync build respectively
they ended up around the same if all syncs crit
which is like 320k
non EX
so about as much as furisode girls
what team tho
chase melony
I had like 15% sync damage gear this time, a new high for me
dc wally can debuff attack much faster than lodge lillie and simultaneously debuff spdef, dragon claw is far faster than dazzling gleam
if 3/5
and has para + eva
could try that too
No
The two girlies get 500 and 600K
And since we are comparing non EX to non EX
What about f2p ? I’m already give up on it
F2P who
I already did katherine and blossom runs f2p
well not blossom yet but I’ll work on it
nope
not entirely sure yet on egg sylveon replacement if you didn’t play the egg eevee event
maybe Sonia and melony core? that’s what I usually do for f2p clears anyway
if you aren't already using blossom to dual spam with bp barry you should but i'd guess you already do?
her TM gives gradual healing so I can only dual spam before that point
anyways while she could get an extra sync with evasion, if not then she’s probably gonna stay in the low 300k to high 200k range
and you know, BP Valerie literally gets more than blossom using the same team
still below Katherine but it’s something
yea blossom did seem like quite the downgrade from katherine and dual spam possibility is the only potential advantage
and if gradual healing is mandatory it's just over
already is but at least there'd be that
sad to see but that’s 2 nodes vs 4 nodes diff
proven to be worse than Katherine and BP Valerie
Who's katherine?
go get Katherine while you still can she’s the best for now
The spritzee one?
she’s literally running for the new years event rerun
slurpuff
Alright I still gotta exchange
Oh ok
I always get confused between those
What supports?
Are nc blue and elio fine?
I don't have melonu
Anyways thanks
Also what reason is there for blossom to get less than valerie
Given that it is ST and blossom is tech
i mean like id assume blossom to have better multis
is it worth candying valerie given that katherine is rerunning rn
you are talking double down 5 + brawn sync 3 + 4 nodes + SEUN on swords dance VS pecking order + dominating sync 5 + 2 nodes
Valerie has more multipliers and the higher attack stat
gahdamn
blossom’s sync is 60 BP weaker without tech EX to compensate
also what does egg sylveon do?
fairy zone
yes
oh nice
so which team would get more, nc blue elio katherine/valerie or egg sylveon bp barry and katherine/valerie
ah
what about katherine vs valerie
Katherine should be better
the latter team
Redid the battle once more
Got 759k because of RNG
Didn’t like the 9
Ended up having to use better gear than 3* fairy because I couldn’t get the same RNG again
Got that lucky RNG again
Ending up with a score of 792k
All I can say is CURSE YOU NINE!
dont use her tm then smh
hm alright, thanks
that was f2p attempt, if I wanted to really try I’d just pull out chase or Nc blue and probably get more
anything special u need to do in the run, or normal para spam?
nothing special
yes I can get 1 million damage but I don’t want to spend candy or cake on SS Wally or H Lillie
but if u replace one of them with blue, u either lose dual spam or fairy zone, so wont that do less?
Unrelated but anyone know why I can't post picture here?
u odnt have the trainer role
And how can I get that?
I’d kick out egg sylveon and bring melony in if I really needed to
support EX can match fairy zone
ah well alright
but like fairy zone is a flat 50% so like with 4 sync buffs wont it be equivalent of 6
vs with support after 4 syncs u would have 5 sync buffs
The issue is that SS Wally and H Lillie are 1/5
They aren’t fully gridded, meaning they aren’t at their full power
So, 200k is the best 1/5 can do?
move levels could probably help but hrm its tough. do they have their EXRs?
Nope, i'm quite new.. focused on the other units :((
Lillie has an innate and she’s still probably doing decent damage just from B moves tbh
hum yeah lillie's bmove actually hits harder
her first sync is potato though.
her succeeding ones, its probably better on top of FZ
So, FZ after she syncs?
thank you for your video 
well i did my own whoopsies but this becomes my second highest ST score 
Chase Best Boy
Saying that for no reason other than I like him and it makes me happy seeing he being used
Hopefully he gets an alt soon
I fish for zap cannon. Fortunately with the grid I'm running it's the only rng part of the run unless you want to fish for a full para to get a third sync on volo
for my run, i popped a circle for her, she still didnt do a lotta damage.
my actual nuker would be Pal Serena though.
Pal Serena is at 330 with Inertia + Paralyzed Innate.
Her is Brainpower + SPD, but her sync damage is 220 iirc o.o;
But yeah, her DPS is better so wait for FZ is up and you've used 2 support EX syncs
Just use her bmove after her initial sync
Katherine is spammablr?
I am waiting for day when furisode girls get their exes like other pair up event pairs did
Can someone help me with a team for this? So far my max is 260k
these two are my only good fairy pairs
Without any 3/5 fairy i dont think it's possible to get very high. You probably can reach 500k at most.
Crap i meant to reply to this message
if you have chase 700k isnpossible
very rng heavy and requires exr chase tho
1/5 ss gladion can't really do anything against 1 target. Maybe drop him and put a status spammer in there.
alternatively exr wally
unfortunatly i don't been playing the game on and off and missed chase
i do
Ss wally can provide both zone and rebuff so he can probably deal decent damage despite lacking 3/5
nope didn't realize she was good so i skipped her
i realize now that was a mistake
but i always skip seasonal pairs unless i really want them
Nah you're fine. There are f2p options that can do what she does, just not as efficient.
slot in nc blue instead of chase
Nc blue and melony
Unless what she does is fairy damage then uhhhh yeah she's pretty good. Still not a must have.
does melony need ex?
Nc blue and melony are solid. Just slot in a third ontype damage dealer and you're set for most DC stages.
she def wants it but probably not
Ideally yes for 2 ex support syncs. If you can afford it. But her main function is sing spamming
introduces more variance tho
alr
Are you aware of status spamming already?
i'm assumming i just sing spam?
It's spamming a gauge-sustainable status move when the opp is already statused, so it fails and you can quickly burn through the countdown to the next sync
oh ic
You're sync rushing essentially
Except for a few cases, normal moves are not viable in DC because the literal dps is too low
You have 180 seconds to deal the most dmg and sync is usually the highest dps option you have
Check pins for more info and general tips
Tried dps strat hm
wait so do i JUST click sing or do i click other moves with other guys as well?
What's the best score with H. Lillie now?
Starting to see the vision
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmWR-JiWvKFdNkS0ZoumoDGe_CdzsbevU someone did all DC stages F2P
at a glance there appears to be much room for optimization tho
gonna need chase or exr to push much higher than that i think
unless you wanna give a SEUP + barry comp a shot
idk if itd be higher than nc blue melony tho
Pykuo did all f2p on almost every types the first time too.
Thanks to them the doc is not lacking pure f2p showcase barring some exceptions.
you might be able to get a wxtra ss wally sync in w/ para luck on the nc blue comp i guess
do you have chase
No, but i hv nc blue
If you didn't mess up anything I'd imagine it's mostly crit chance.
think ik why he had to use Janine BP Barry teams, he is using a more restricted definition of F2P which excludes genpool 5* but still includes everything below along with BP + event pairs
pykuo includes all genpool 5* so he gets to use better strats like sing spam
what does chase do?
Para + support sprint combo + special circle + team eva
For special dd Chase is almost always better enabler than NC Blue or other choices.
but i thought nc blue is also for special dd?
then what would blue be used for
only if u dont have chase?
Special circle has better sync boost than NC Blue & NC Blue's +6 spatk is mostly useless for recent dds (all +6 themselves).
He's still better in physical coz we don't have physical Chase yet.
he is better in physical cuz of sync boost?
and the fact that he paras?
anyways thanks
The day when physical Chase is made NC Blue will be outclassed in both sides and only remain "general" if you don't have those better options.
Especially if the nuker has multiple multipliers
Here idk why but NC Blue helped me score more than Chase
Thats mostly it
Chase's score is tied to "how many dodges you got".
so is lillie’s smun tile worth using?
i mean, nc blue is still better for electric lol bc of his rebuff
i got a team i wanna try
Not for 3v1
Hes also good for builds that require just 1 defense or special def (ss diantha scholar's sync) or those tht just need -1 defense or -1 special defense (this idk)
I expected more tbh but good enough
H lillie would give more daze
I have her but at 1/5 and no cake
Actually was a bit better with Lillie
@quaint timber did you take the family pic? 📸
If she was invest could be 1m around
huh
improvable
the fairy zone ran out right before the last b move
this is with the smun tile
imma try without
OH lmao that's what you meant hahaha
more hoenn in that screenshot than in 2024
got more syncs in but it didnt make up for the b move’s raw damage at +10 smun
its close tho
hmm i expected 10/5 SS Wally to easily reach like 4,5M or 5M+. His SpAtk is monstrous
unfortunately can’t get a run where i can take advantage of the seun from her 3rd b move
time runs out before i can get another sync
volo is a good addition here though… probably lillie’s best partner if no ss wally/uninvested ss wally
Issue you need set zone 2 time confuse and use b move after his 1 sync
Plus lillie b move is slow need alot miss even in normal run.
Wally Sa if was power up sync and extend fairy zone and head 2 extra would be it for score
Just getting to this now
Better considering my SS Mina has no EXR
I was lucky to get some para and evasion hax
oh yeah, with my redemption on st fairy i finally have 1 mil on every stage 
Yayyyy!
What changed? Who'd you get? ^^
must be nice not needing to wait for the second rerun of bug and rock 3v1 but this time I’m prepared with 3/5 SS Hilbert and 3/5 EXR SS Diantha
I've also gotten 1m on fairy finally
still can't do much with rock single :<
Gordie
I could’ve done Gordie at any time if I had the spare spirits to EX mine 😭
EX him now
well I’m EXing SS Hilbert and SS Roxie this week if I don’t need an EX for HSE
I am holding 130 spirits, you caught me at the highest I’ve ever been without intentionally saving
that just sounds like an alt paradise
one of the major things I’ve learned from being in a fan reboot of Defender of Texel (an old DeNA game I played back in the day before it EOSed) was that trade system was incredibly exploitable by multiaccounters
I guess so
You can make it so only accounts that are old enough and have a certain PR can join guilds
Gordie gaming
That's how I got 1M first time
I do not know why I didn't use SS Diantha, despite having her at 3/5 😭

i might have to use SS DIantha then :x
Can't do worse than my 0 point on ice 3v3 
On single rock?
yeah
She's kinda a 3v3 unit
at least now diantha has EXR
3R shoudl be enough for 1mil right?
with like, SC Steven & a support EX
like iunno.... SS Gio Alt? D:
hum before i go all in though

i might try Gordie + SS Gio Alt + Colress ;x
(i threw the team just to get gems and forgot to actually do the dc later for the score)
YOOOO
How good is Liza's nuke?
That's a real high score
so good it overflows
I guess I should go all in on my Liza then
She's 2/5
nice np
h lillie
Yall what’s my best option
dang you have good picks just insufficient move levels
Gotcha!
SS Wally, HLillie and a para enabler
Is Nemona my best pick or am I missing something from one of the others?
BP Valerie is probably better since you have guaranteed SEUN on every sync
though Nemona Haymaker + circle sync is probably pretty close as well
Will I be consistently syncing with Wally or HLillie?
Wally should have a stronger sync
I feel dumb, what is SEUN?
super effective up next
actually
what's on our DC Horizon
NC Red gaming, NC Leaf gaming, NC Hop gaming, and a super sparring 😮
Even with HLillie’s special lucky skill?
i think i'
ll do pretty well this time around
(Shauna's the one that has problems! D:)
yes
Alrighty
well
Wally is a tech sync pair
he has single target adventage
with 1/5 it's actually harder to tell
but still lillie can provide seun for wally sync and preserve her own for her b moves
you'll still have to try both to be certain
Too bad he doesn’t get anything notable at 2/5 
mega sync bp is still bad enough to throw it into question in the first place
gobsmack lillie is very worth, can still grind out for confusion for all syncs plus crits but leaving this for now
"maybe I should be clicking the button on wally instead"
might be the best i can do w this
well
there is ONE thing i could try
i have 1 second left at the last sync that i usually just moonblast for... i could roll for the 1/10 hyper beam from volo...
assuming he still has seun it would be a bit stronger
90% of gamblers quit before they hit big
Who are you syncing with?
chase, lillie, volo, lillie
would chase volo lillie not be better
if he 2nd syncs shouldnt fz last til the end of the battle
or am i wrong
fair
I was able to hit 1.45 mil (though I was running penny over chase) by going lillie, penny, volo, volo to preserve seun on lillie's b move and allow volo to make use of it for his syncs. One less sync than I could've hit unfortunately but a double para would do the trick in my case
I'm not patient enough to fish for zap cannon that many times tho
Ok never mind, double para left me with .01 seconds for a third volo sync. Could've been higher if I'd waited to use the circle until volo's second sync but I'll take it
I assume you only sync’d with H Lillie once right?
I tried some teams with hlillie as the DD but none can top summer marnie 

yeah once
Right, I need to figure out how I can turn my 790k into 1 million with as little additional investment as possible ^^;
1/5 SS Wally
3/5 EXR SS Nemona (690k)
1/5 EXR H Lillie (100k)
No wally sync? I don't have him so idk if it's worth using his B move for the rebuff
it is
even if you can't afford to have it under zone
which i do, not use his first sync with zone
I sync with H Lillie and then SS Wally following this video
Correction on the upload from yesterday, that wasn’t the best strategy as long as I wasn’t getting 5th (maybe possible) sync. Lillie just does such an insane amount of damage for a spammer, and while that B Move is painfully slow, during 3v3 Fairy is still is good to use because of the crazy damage output!
The primary change from 2.8M run is r...
curious as to when/how you are buffing lillie's speed?
since she needs +6 speed for max sync
Volo syncs
He has brain sync + the tech exr and more importantly allows lillie to boost her b move with seun
Lillie gradually boosts her speed for ramming speed with her tm + each b move use
interesting
lillie's syncs should do more than volo's though
she has more multipliers even though she doesnt have tech exr
though again, she needs time to set up +6 speed
that could be the issue
Yeah but since her b move is doing more than her sync I'd rather hit that with the seun
I also had to avoid using penny's tm, so I opted to sacrifice the sync multiplier for grand entry
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=029700017500&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=4444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFICEiJScpKi0vMjQ&v1=011805073001&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFCQsOEhQWGBseISI&v2=029300070000&s2=1&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=1111&g2=AAECAwQFDA0ODxASFxgZGiAhIiMkJissLS4
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
ice triple next already, guess 2/5 nc red outdamages hala? stuck on that again
U can use both technically
First sync nc red
I think Hala is better than NC red if below 3/5 ?
ah yea hm
i think 2/5 red could outdo but i'll try both
still strike/tech with innate since exr and one of his passives can count as an innate
but hala can technically farm seun
oh yeah
i have 5/5 ss n
hmm
is he gonna beat red
his nuke takes a while to set up...
faster w/ sc steven i think
tho that doesnt debuff spatk
he might have to noble roar once
he should attack once for paralysis
thats 4 b moves though thats a lotttt
idk if that'll beat red's fast setup
at least grid mults aren't too bad to setup, just need status and spa down which you can get off a single b move while negating speed buffs
so you're looking for attack drop options to save time
or set up with just n and maximize his damage without using a faster option
also too bad even max overcap is short of getting ss n maximum sync damage plus soften up
by 1
could end up on like grusha and oleana for optimal team lol
take the triple poison time cost to compress aoe attack drop and spam
and it makes getting gauge less difficult
Not sure how I could do things differently
I do not know how I got this score first try
I'm trying to improve it, but I keep running out of time 😭
Best team for this DC or DC Blue better spammer than Lillie and also providing extra circle boost to Chase?
Any fairy zone user is better. Even the egg one.
Next DC
Not this one
If you are able to sneak 5 syncs with Red while still having Lillie BMove for the last sync, it would probably be better
Then again even if not, the extra Support EXR might also prove better? 
Lillie is easier to spam than Blue as well
Lol I think you bring NC Red for his master passive coz HLillie is known for hit way harder with bmove than sync.
Certainly worth a try
Tried a DPS run
They are planning for 3v3 Ice on Friday
Extra circle boost and MF passive vs. support EXR and SEUN
wouldn't egg Glaceon and Ice Zone be better than a 2/3 Kanto Circle?
Which also reminds me. 3v3 Fighting is next week. I need godly gears
Then who spams?
good point
They said this dc and showed the current one so I was confused.
Yeah I think HLillie will win in the end coz possibly one more sync.
Whoops 
I meant next, sorry
it would've been nice to use Sina, but I lack her EXR
Done rally already?
Oh I missed that one. I only went from this 
even if I did, I'll be two short
And the daily region rotation?
yup
Hmmm
the most I can get right now is 18, so
Also, fire 3v1 next week. So it's either champion time or champion time
Well, Lillie also gives SEUN with her B Move
tried that team and it looks like you need a para proc to make anything happen properly
that does appear to be the case
I was rushing around irl while doing it and just saw that I got 2M 😭
Also Lillie can give 1 SpMUN to Red too upon syncing
We need one spam unit for every types before eos!
Does the status nullfication delay still trigger in ranked DC if you try Sing spamming in Electric Terrain?
that's actually a good question...
dunno if anyone tried that specifically, i'd guess it still doesn't work but it's not like we can check right now
True. Thought someone would have tried that before.
I mean spam on a para'd opponent is the same as spam in et (they're just failed in the end) so I'd assume it'll meet the same issue.
bc if anyone did it's pretty likely they wouldn't have even mentioned
if ofc it didn't work
Or it would've been a tried strat on YT
yea
Good enough. Every time I got the perfect sequence I would always miss an important Crit and I'm tired of grinding it out.
This run, Lillie miss her Crit, Wally missed his first Crit. Final sync did not have confusion.
Waiting on Triple Ice, I need some redemption on that one the RNG broke me last time. Well won't be the same Holiday Lillie would give more wiggle room.
Skill gear used 12%, 80 Sp.atk
Who's the 2nd best after Red? Sina or SS N?
i need to constantly save 900 tickets in case n is next
If I were to use SSN for ice 3v3: would it be better to get SEUN from N's Bmove or Lillie's
Sadly it doesn't, I tested it on the previous one
well there we go
n's setup might be roughhh
we'll have to see if it can be optimized
That was the idea
Sad. Appreciate you testing it.
super sparring not for another 10 days and yall already brainstorming
the grind never stops
Hmmm, I would've thought Dexio is better for psychic 3v1
Thankfully I have SSAG now whom I assume is essentially an upgrade of Aaron.
||I will replace Lodge Lear with Archer after but I need the triple Lear run||
Also Dexio is indeed better on 3v1
I just don't have him lol
who does
That one JP dude who four-shotted Terrakion






