Damage Challenge

[cloud timber]

ci yes

[plush palm]

so about what im getting on a evasion comp

what grid

bc if you aint running mpr youre gonna need steven b move to max def

[cloud timber]

yeah i did that

[plush palm]

needs +6 too

smokescreen sync too?

or went around

[teal haven]

kimono grimsley land a crit challenge (impossible)

[cloud timber]

no smokescreen

https://youtu.be/udNpwU-3xro grids and gear at the end

needed one para proc prob

[teal haven]

grimsley has now missed 6 crits in a row

[long silo]

He lost the bet

[misty forge]

Missed first two crit syncs, but whatever, last time he got 1.4m but all considered this ain't too much worse

[teal haven]

bro this is so ridiculous

its either hau spams brutal swing or grimsley misses a crit

what is the point of this shit

why do I even play this game

[vast glade]

Not bad since I don't feel like changing Colress' grid and LS again

[plush palm]

wait is he performing that much worse than colress? even w/ rising tide?

[pallid girder]

The thing about Colress is that he compresses spam, which Tate doesn't coz of doomed desire.

[misty forge]

^

[teal haven]

Fuck this I don't hate myself to go for higher

[vapid kernel]

Also Tate's nuke isnt better than Colress i think

Its just one multiplier that is the same as Colress' towering force

Oh actually

Both got 2 multis but Colress has static shock 9 while tate has static shock 5

[normal parcel]

What's better? Colress nuke or Poppy hammer spam?

[cloud timber]

poppy has 10/5 available so

[normal parcel]

Sorry, always forget to add plebs 3/5 poppy

[plush palm]

iirc her nuke is meh

[normal parcel]

Her nuke isn't great, but the hammer is quite strong, but probably not for plebs

[cloud timber]

colress then, it took 5/5 for poppy to compete i believe

[normal parcel]

However Lillie nuke isn't that bad

[plush palm]

ok i aint gonna bother w/ her then

already got my colress clear in

in good

[crude sandal]

What's the best team with Colress?

AS Steven and V. Thorton?

[pallid girder]

A Steven + A Lillie had the highest score recorded iirc.

[pallid girder]

I've caculated and without any teammates in consideration STate can still outnuke Colress with lower multipliers.
It's really Colress can use both steel rebuff (ASteven) & steel zone so he has higher score.

[teal haven]

How do you use colress without arc Steven

[cloud timber]

well you need something to replace the attack buffs so probably hilbert would be one of the better options who can get a bit of evasion in too

also tops off defense

[crude sandal]

Does Colress need TM MPR or Infliction Freebie?

[cloud timber]

infliction freebie unless you're using nc bianca, tm mpr isn't necessary if you can get defense from something like arc steven b move

[crude sandal]

Or Catalyst actually

Assuming you're not gonna use Smokescreen Sync 2

[cloud timber]

i don't

[crude sandal]

I reckon this grid is good enough for him?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19100/60100?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFCw4dICMlJygrLS4v

[cloud timber]

gauge dies unless specifically running bianca afaik

[crude sandal]

Well, I don't have her

[cloud timber]

yea you need to grid infliction freebie prob

[crude sandal]

Not sure if batmanbnb's strat with NC Red gridding Catalyst will similarly work here

[plush palm]

btw you need extra energy if running infliction freebie on a nuke grid

unless you wanna drop sync nodes

colress grid cost is super awkward

[crude sandal]

Will Metallic Acceleration somewhat make up the speed buff Chase gives?

[plush palm]

ideal grid for a non bianca comps probably smth like this

i use this one bc 40k orbs is a tough sell rn

[misty forge]

It is

But colress compression means you can skip on a spammer and allot zone/Bianca circle to do overall more

[plush palm]

on a bianca comp he gets around 1.9m

maybe a bit more

[misty forge]

Static shock 5 Vs 9 is compensated by rising tide being 120% Vs towering force 100% and Tate's spatk being quite higher than colress atk

[cloud timber]

if 6/5 gloria's getting 2m off no spammer then how bad is summer tate as spammer actually?

[vapid kernel]

Well... Colress cant max his own attack theres also tht

[pallid girder]

Arc Steven:

[vapid kernel]

So its not a fair comparison on an alone basis

[pallid girder]

Yeah so just saying STate didn't nuke harder than Colress is a wrong statement alone.

[normal parcel]

Is more that colress can spam I guess

[cloud timber]

if summer tate can make it just to 4th sync on his own spam that might be enough to be worth it but that's a lot of animations and passives to go through

[vagrant ivy]

how are people hitting 4m

[misty forge]

I could try it but doom desire is slow af

[vagrant ivy]

my poppy is 7/5 and I’m currently doing about 2.3m

could optimize more tho

[misty forge]

Comparing a SAd pokefair with a very useful DC multiplier Vs a 3/5 seasonal is kinda unfair imo

[azure hornet]

I love not being able to replicate old scores

[crude sandal]

Also, is Adaman's exclusive cookie better here?

[true locust]

Not all sync crit could be 2m

[crude sandal]

Not bad

[sacred badger]

damn he's crazy. hmm

[sacred badger]

what's the sync prio? all three or just chase + ss lear?

[true locust]

I sync lillie chase then befor lear sync set circle and lear syncs

And use b move after sup sync so you sync -6 spe def and last b move i the end. And need some miss so you have time set 2 circle again since they run out .

[sacred badger]

oh wait that's lillie

orz

i thought it was Elio hrm

guiess i'm doing Colress Arc Steven and Redlax for 1m

[icy pendant]

oh boy steel 3v1, one of my remaining sub-1m scores and this one I know I can improve

[sacred badger]

what team adept?

my previous attempt with my team was 1.1m :<

[vapid kernel]

Awkward i scored more on ST despite a missed crit

Somehow my syncs were bigger in number in Triple Target

[vast glade]

Dang, tried SS Lear earlier today but with Colress and AS Steven. Didn't work.
Didn't think about having the usual Chase/Xmas Lillie support

[viscid lion]

Can someone help me with a team for this I didn't realize I didn't have much Steel pairs until now

[vapid kernel]

Alright got 1.93M with Colress now

[vapid kernel]

You have Elio or no?

Melony?

I cant tell if your Hop has expanded grid

But anyways probably Gloria, Sonia and the sing spammer if there is one

[viscid lion]

I missed Solgaleo's grid expansion btw

[viscid lion]

Elio and primarina?

[viscid lion]

Hop does

[icy pendant]

so this was my old team and Colress still isn’t EX to this day but I have a giant bonk hammer and/or the money man that can change that now

[sacred badger]

variety thorton would rather be a DPS nuker tbh.

but yeah, EX should help to 1m

[icy pendant]

only problem is I still can’t EX Colress, I’ll have to use one of my flat out better options instead

[sacred badger]

hrm i tried poppy before

not the worst idea.

just needs exr i think hmm

waiting for your Gloria DC fight 😮

[hard sleet]

Worst Gloria performance on pasio

[sacred badger]

rip

why chase even

[hard sleet]

Accel

[sacred badger]

i think redlax would be better o.o;

[hard sleet]

Supp ex sprint

[sacred badger]

for SEUN sheningans

[icy pendant]

oh right. I have 23% sync damage increase for Lear, that should do it

[sacred badger]

(Like does Chase even buff up Gloria's nuke? He's a special circle no?)

[hard sleet]

Don’t have him

[sacred badger]

ah rip. 😭

[vapid kernel]

Spam with someone else not colresa

[misty forge]

My 3/5 Gloria on pmarnie + BP Barry did 850k what the hell mang

[hard sleet]

lel

[misty forge]

Just with seun blade you should've done 200k

At minimum

[safe prawn]

Love the single fairy vs triple fairy

[dry whale]

Meh , same run as last time just with 3/5 ARC Steven. It just made it easier. Slightly more damage but it probably was damage rolls or slightly better gear for Colress but Lillie seemed weaker. She probably loss something from gears so the score stayed basically the same.

https://youtu.be/rth-iDKotU8?si=ZK5jHJ3ff9t_qXSE

[dense gate]

I have good steel types but lack a tech ex steel type. 1/5 Poppy seems like my best bet

[lusty galleon]

wouldn't colress get you higher

[dense gate]

2/5 Colress

[lusty galleon]

rip

[vernal condor]

Hmm

Oh it's better than my PB, I didnt expect that

I thought it was slightly worse

I dunno if I could slip a lillie b move in at the end or not

[dusty solar]

is 3/5 selene necessary for this?

[vernal condor]

And my gears are far from crazy

[azure hornet]

Head Start 1 and Steel Zone extension 3 are important

[azure hornet]

Also TM MPR

[vernal condor]

@dry whale I know you have better gears that me, could you try this team?

lillie -> steven -> 5 colress syncs, the last one being with SEUN from lillie

[dry whale]

Sure , not doing anything right now.

[vernal condor]

I don't run smokescreen nor infliction freebie on colress

I tm super early with lillie, move 2 in fact (after twave), otherwise her tm is super slow because it tries to buff crit but it can't

the early MGA + team +2 speed is still valuable, that's why i use it at all

maybe you can find a different strat

[true locust]

You can always put turn 1 sleep. Save some time. And you get 2 speed up

[vernal condor]

I can try that, but idk if it would save enough time to do anything significant

[dusty solar]

thanks, i just put adrenaline on selene and it did the job

steel zone ran out for last sync and i forgot to have -6 def for two of them but i just wanted the medal mwahaha

now only fairy single stands in my way

[true locust]

This way you can have more speed and use tmp latter on when low on gauge.

[vernal condor]

yeah but that's the thing, im never low on gauge after colress' tm

or well, too low

[true locust]

When its sleep you can low his def

So have t wave ready when wake up

[pallid girder]

Will you do Poppy demonstration?

[true locust]

Nothing to do realy🤣 just hammer it haha

The same like 3 vs 3 3 vs 1 is realy similar

[safe prawn]

How much is thorton passive adding?

[dry whale]

Kinda screwed up the ending , had extra time tried to sneak in a mirror shot before Steven B move.

I'll go back and clean it up.

[safe prawn]

Don’t remember the %

[true locust]

Not sure % but give some extra bonus. Since i cant find any numbers about it.

[pallid girder]

Oh so VThorton is indeed better than A2Lillie?

[true locust]

She don’t have sup ex

Plus restrain give extra damage too

[vernal condor]

yeah I did get a mirror shot before steven's B too

glad to see it's better than with anni lillie lol

I'm still able to cook

[vast glade]

Given Lear has no EXR and I was too lazy to level him further it was a good result. In fact better than my score with Gloria earlier

[true locust]

Lillie is not it🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

Zone running out . Gauge also bad .

[sacred badger]

Yay

[normal parcel]

Whale or pleb?

[true locust]

I have alot units:) Gotta Catch 'Em All

[normal parcel]

Guess pleb poppy is still worse than colress

[true locust]

Poppy 3/5 have free move

If you have throton and steven its ok

Should hit some damage

[dry whale]

Definitely still cooked.

Ok damage rolls, saw a bit better while trying but nothing that would rocket this score much higher.

Funny little situation happened, I modified Steven grid and removed a +5 speed in order to fit Furious Brawn and it threw my gauge off for when Lillie is supposed to B move forcing me to save a Potion.

https://youtu.be/cc9at-MofrE?si=fU2N3sXGssaDU0lR

[dry whale]

Messing around a bit more , you can probably sneak in another B move with Lillie for the first sync since speed would be an issue because you would skip her trainer move. It would probably need two paralysis or misses and definitely no stat drops. Not something I'm gonna grind out but theoretically it's about another 180-200k.

Edit. I take it back it's actually possible and it only took one miss, missed two crits on a test run. Probably grind it out after dinner.

[acoustic chasm]

My dumb ass forgot to take off Master Healer from stove

Huge time loss

But anyway

[fallen trail]

sir that is not sc lillie

[acoustic chasm]

Yes it is

Santa Claus Lillie

[fallen trail]

ah yes of course

so is h lillie doing better than anni 24 lillie?

[dry whale]

Oh your right, game says Holiday

[fallen trail]

my colress is still 4/5 over 2 years later im screaming

[dry whale]

It's kind of a wash, the difference between my Annie 2 Lillie and Holiday Lillie runs was only about 40k.

Technically Holiday Lillie is better

[fallen trail]

close then

ffs got a worse score than last time

[vernal condor]

(2.5+3+3.5+4)x1.5 = 19.5 (sync buffs mult, with zone)
(3+3.5+4+4.5)+5*1.5 = 22.5 (sync buffs + last sync with SEUN)
So Colress should be dealing overall more damage with the hlillie team, but a2 lillie herself is dealing a good chunk and steel theme skill gives a good amount of stat, so it closes the gap

wait no the sync buff mults are wrong, that's the amount of sync buffs not the mults

[dry whale]

If you saw my edit , I managed to sneak in an extra B move with Lillie.

[vernal condor]

Oh I didnt, nice

I felt like it was possible

[dry whale]

Just happened

We don't trainer move, we immediately go for the B move with Lillie asap

[vernal condor]

interesting

[dry whale]

I did grid smokescreen in

[vernal condor]

yeah, for the misses

[dry whale]

I only needed one apparently

What I do have to double check is if Steven dodged any brutal swings.

[vernal condor]

do you sing first to land a sleep, or directly twave?

[acoustic chasm]

Hlillie team needs more crits, that's the sad part

[vernal condor]

steven maxes crit

[dry whale]

Twave sing potion

Alright did another dry run. Was 1 off from final sync. No dodges in this run. So yeah I think it's only one dodge needed as long and Liquidation does not trigger

[vernal condor]

and you use 2 lillie b ? wouldnt it be better to just use none, and get an extra sync instead ?

[dry whale]

Hmm gauge could become a problem then , can always test it later. It also means Colress has to Crit even more.

I'll give it a shot later , phone need to charge and I need to start dinner.

[vernal condor]

I can't get a miss 🫠

yeah no i dont like smokescreen, praying for dodges that never come, only for smokescreen to waste time in the end i'll settle with the 1 b move strat

[rare apex]

...lmao

forgot to swap colress HS1 to SP3

[vapid kernel]

A para proc is same right?

[vernal condor]

ye

[vapid kernel]

Then tht shudnt be too difficult

Does smokesvreen sync occupy time

I dont use it at all

Dont have the NRG anyways

[vernal condor]

yeah it loses between half a sec to a full sec each sync, im not sure of the exact time

[normal parcel]

Maybe I'm missing something, I tried with 2 screeches instead of 3, same rotation and I'm nowhere close with the timer

Or the run had dodges/para?

With the aspect ratio I need a microscope to see it on my phone

[rare apex]

managed this whilst waiting on bus. 4 colress syncs, one of which didn't crit i think.

+100atk / 13%? gear

[normal parcel]

Last rotation I got em but don't know how much RNG was involved

[fallen trail]

i still have supreme entry on lillie from last time looooool

[dry whale]

Did you account for Adrenaline lucky skills and HS1 from the grid for both Steven and Lillie?

[vernal condor]

Ah right you have extra adrenaline

[vapid kernel]

Doom Desire Dps + 1 sync of Tate

[normal parcel]

Ah so it was something on the grids too, sadly I don't have enough sprint candies for Lillie and I can't afford yellow candies for steven

I have the lucky skills but not the grids

[vapid kernel]

Time for the Hoenn Analysis test

[normal parcel]

Maybe if corleas decided to CRIT I could get 2 m with anni lillie

[vapid kernel]

Counterintuitive but turned out to be higher scoring

Wallace GMax also gave Tate SE up which wasnt consumed via Doom Desire

So the last sync was bamm

Would be useful if theres a Steel ST with DPS rule

This was pretty good too

[zinc rune]

I almost hate to ask cause i got nothing but what is gonna be my best Damage Dealer here

[fallen trail]

imma b real you got nothing

you missed anni lillie?

w solgaleo

[zinc rune]

I said i got nothing 🤣 and yeah i started last month

[fallen trail]

thats tough

assuming mc solgaleo doesnt have power boost then

if you had 1 more dupe on colress you’d be good

[zinc rune]

Yeah all my tech candy went to steven and deoxys

[icy pendant]

as it should, don't candy genpools or story pairs

[zinc rune]

Alright well ill do what i can. Maybe ill level colress and just do what he gets me and maybe by the next steel DC ill be good

[plush palm]

gonna want to ex colress i think

[fallen trail]

you should get another colress eventually

[zinc rune]

Yeah not to worried about it just looking to maximize my rewards as much as i can while i wait for the units to come in. Being new ive just got so much to EX so those resources have been scarce

[plush palm]

fair enough

tbh most of the dc units are niche asf for the casual players

like yes they can do LA solos at 3/5 but casual players barely touch LG

only ones youre probably gonna get much use out of is the field stuff

bc f2p zone options are scarce if you dont have the eevees

[zinc rune]

Thats fair. I just started to get a good hang of the champion stadium and the rally so i figured id come here to check out DC cause besides fire weakness i wasnt hitting higher then 30k haha

[light bluff]

Hi, need help kick Hau’s arse

[plush palm]

colress 3/5?

or cakes anni lillie

[light bluff]

Close, 2/5

[light bluff]

Don’t have, I’m new :((

Not raised ones

[icy pendant]

your options seem bleak enough that Sunsteel Strike DPS from MC Solgaleo might be better than Colress spam

it’s either them or Gloria BBlade spam

[plush palm]

yep

gloria actually has a innate mult btw

not a amazing one but its better than what solga gets at base

unfortunately it only activates after hau syncs

[light bluff]

So, what would be my supports?

I think Lillie is compulsory?

[plush palm]

something w/ para

and atk + crit buffs

[cloud timber]

sonia and bp surge would fit that

but if you're using 1/5 you might as well forgo spam

[dusty solar]

The lack of ex hurts Gloria more than 1/5

[icy pendant]

against a single target, no it doesn't

[warped gulch]

Gloria just bad until 4/5

[cloud timber]

yep

[dusty solar]

Oh i forgot this was st lol

[vapid kernel]

Anyone gonna try Wikstrom nuke?

[cloud timber]

maybe this

[light bluff]

Then do I have other option?

MC Solgaleo? Or 2/5 Colress :((

[cloud timber]

2/5 colress is not a damage dealer

should be spamming behemoth blade with gloria really, her syncs aren't doing much either but at least that's high bp

[lethal siren]

When do u use steel zone

[dusty solar]

never

selene syncs 2nd and then the zone stays up for the rest of the attempt

[lethal siren]

I see

[dusty solar]

until the last 5 secs but whatever i was already over 1m

[dry whale]

Alright I'm sick of grinding, this was with a double B move , but of course I missed a crit. Happened a few times now.

You really want the miss/para early before your sing spamming, the later it could leave you low on atb.

If liquidation triggers you need an extra miss. I've had it trigger on the last possible chance killing the run 4 times. Well no guarantee I would have crit anyways but still feels bad.

With the numbers I was seeing , high 2.6 or a low 2.7 would be possible.

Overall not worth the hassle.

[cursive linden]

1.8M is already a good point to me so i'll pass

[dense scarab]

Are people syncing with both Steven and Lillie in this comp?

I can't even hit 1 mil, but I also have no multipliers on my skill gear

[cloud timber]

skill gear won't help that too much but yes you sync with both

2m for me was pretty rng-free beyond grinding out sync crits, still need a run with one lillie b move that doesn't miss crits

i prob need to switch to smokescreen by this point

12% bonus +100 atk

[dense scarab]

How is the first cycle? Do you attack with Steven at all or no?

I've done one BM with Steven followed by 2 Screeches with Colress

[cloud timber]

no, not with team sentry entry

which i had for that run

[dense scarab]

Sentry Entry?

[cloud timber]

colress grid

[dense scarab]

Ah can I see? I just have Smokescreen + all nuke stuff

[cloud timber]

i was doing my runs without smokescreen so that's when you can afford it

but i'm testing out that now

need to force 2+ misses with smokescreen to be worth it so if you don't want to look for that it's better to not use it

i think i'll go back to the other grid

[dense scarab]

I can barely top 1 mil so I should just be satisfied with my 1.3k with Anni Lillie, Steven and Poppy

[restive galleon]

Is this the best team for Lear or is sing spam better?

[fallen trail]

sing spam is almost always better than trying to dps it

dunno why steven is at over 100k

he shouldnt be attacking much at all

[cloud timber]

+35k, not worth in hindsight lol

not a single extra ticket

[restive galleon]

Elio,SSlear and who?

Steven or Lillie?

[cloud timber]

elio isn't very good if you can't also fit in para on the team

you'd rather be using bp barry or colress

maybe if you're using b move every sync you have time to refill gauge for oleana or janine

definitely steven if you have no support ex to work with, otherwise dunno

[vagrant ivy]

went back and got myself some better gear and this was the results

2 para procs

at 9/5 hammer goes from being 585 BP to 720 BP, big difference

which is probably what’s causing me to lag behind

[ivory kestrel]

First run

[plush palm]

5/5?

[ivory kestrel]

3/5 exr

kept spamming Steven in between bonks

[plush palm]

im getting 1.2m on poppy w/o exr

or ex

i aint got the resources to ex her atm

do you sync w/ her or lillie

[vagrant ivy]

the strike EX doesn’t matter but the sprint EXR does

[ivory kestrel]

i dont think the exr is really that necessary... my first run before she was not exr, and i got around 1.9M (lucky run).

[vagrant ivy]

at 4/5 and above I sync with poppy for +2 PMUN on sync

[plush palm]

the extra 40atk probably matters too

[vagrant ivy]

been trying to figure out how to recreate the 3.3m clear using poppy

I’m assuming 10/5 tho which I can’t match sadly

[ivory kestrel]

syncs: steven > lillie > poppy all after

[vagrant ivy]

makes sense

[ivory kestrel]

actually i forgot to use Poppy's TM at the end, idk if i can fit it there, but it should be more

[vagrant ivy]

TM feels slower than just thunder wave

[ivory kestrel]

but you get the pmuns?

[vagrant ivy]

just +1

I try to fit it in early when I do use it

[plush palm]

i already have a colress 1.9m clear so i aint gonna try to grind poppy out

gl

shes a interesting unit

[vapid kernel]

where Wikstrom clears

[vagrant ivy]

in all honesty i'd rather use EX thorton over wikstrom just because he has an EX

wikstrom's attack stats are pathetic even in sword form

[icy pendant]

that involves you EXing Thorton to begin with

[vapid kernel]

does Thorton have an attack stat?

ok seems Wikstrom max is 300K

300-400K

[vagrant ivy]

you have to be fucking kidding me

not even CS2

[vernal condor]

that's pretty good all things considered

[vagrant ivy]

well he outdid my expectations which were at about 250k

better than gladion

[proud minnow]

it's a 4* Wikstrom too

a 6*EX Wikstrom would have +120 more physical attack

[vernal condor]

+80 not +120

[vagrant ivy]

when your sync is special but you have relentless

maybe I can find better partners but that’s for another time

[proud minnow]

is his innate like Flinch Hitter too?

[vagrant ivy]

yeah

[vernal condor]

💀

[vagrant ivy]

innate is flinch

but you either have to get the extra agg 1 tile or the defense crush 4 tile

for relentless

can’t do both without max E

[vapid kernel]

Oh thats good given u cant debuff attack

[vapid kernel]

This is so bad hes worse than like... Torchic

[normal parcel]

Do you know that wilkstrom gets up to +300 attack from skill gears?

His problem is that it lacks 6ex

And besides the innate has only CRIT strike 2 and double down 5

[vapid kernel]

He wipes Regirock

[normal parcel]

I don't think bronzong is even close to non ex Aegislash

Flinch innate is terrible

Maybe he can kinda work with SC selene

[dry whale]

@vernal condor I hit the run.

Adjusted the timing of the B move so I could have a potion and free thunder wave to bail me out in case of a late miss where my ATB would be low.

https://youtu.be/TSjvR7NoGVM?si=vLKxrOE7YmgtlMft

[vapid kernel]

Cool

Is this heavy rng or just follow the script?

[normal parcel]

I mean there are lots of good f2p single target units, that I don't find there's a world where you want to use bronzong except for the memes

[normal parcel]

I think is heavy rng

[vapid kernel]

Ya EX jasmine probably better than Thorton

Non ex Lodge Jasmine can do more than that 150K lol

[dry whale]

I would classify it as heavy RNG. It's 5 syncs you need to Crit that alone is a problem, then Liquidation triggering kills runs, depending on what you dodge 1 or 2 misses required.

Even the other two runs I posted yesterday, while less RNG you still need to Crit 5 times for the 2.2-2.4m

[normal parcel]

Yes 5 crits Is White RNG heavy

32.7% just for that

Then multiply for the chances of getting the misses, plus liquidation has like 20% defense drop and it uses it a lot

[vernal condor]

Yooo

[cloud timber]

should be 120 unless pomatools is lying, 40 base increase times 3 for forme change

[vernal condor]

oh i thought it was x2

i didnt double check that

man this form change is crazy lol

[cloud timber]

yea

[cloud timber]

oh man is sonia + melony better here lmao

[grand oracle]

My highest record lmao

[cloud timber]

missed two out of the last 3 sync crits but landed the last one

[grand oracle]

Actually i think it may be ice but i forgor

[vernal condor]

i wonder if hlillie wouldnt be better than barry

you miss on average more than half of sings, and when you land one you're guaranteed to fail a few after

[cloud timber]

yea i can try that

would be better with one more sync but i don't think i missed any sync crits on that one, 2x cs2 and 5% critastrophe

might be worse on average but i'm going off literally a single run

also i should use colress over bp barry prob

[vernal condor]

well if you use colress you might as well sync with colress

[cloud timber]

could but i'm not looking for a practical run, just maxing out wikstrom

same situation, one from sync but had a para proc in my favor, will try two screeches

and yea colress under the worst conditions but still 3/5 far outdoes this

[dry whale]

Iron head spam

[cloud timber]

oh i forgot wikstrom has an innate

[dry whale]

This was just CS2 and not 20/20

[vernal condor]

cs2, no 20/20

[cloud timber]

yea arc steven still best

[vernal condor]

small tip when used with arc steven, his tm will fail when in attack form (after steven's tm), so you can use that for some free fast animation

[dry whale]

Removed sync stuff put everything into enabling Iron Head Spam and potency.

[cloud timber]

lillie passive buffs attacks, sing spammed until both support syncs were used then iron head, no sync dmg gridded beyond cs2

might have slightly better gear but w/e

5/20

[dry whale]

Ok now I'm happy with Iron Head spam

[vagrant ivy]

the fact that wikstrom got pushed from 400k to 700k

damn

[fallen trail]

peakstrom

[dry whale]

He probably gets to 1m if I make him 20/20.

[plush palm]

sounds miserable

[dry whale]

Taking out aggravation allowed for more hits since it was not constantly activating eating time. I used two of Stevens B move

This is where I leave it, it was a fun time killer. This was 5/5 0/20 CS2, +100atk, +6%sync mult +4% more if sync on a flinch.

Edit: current score 890k , seems like 1 Steven B move was better after all.

[spiral halo]

Witnessing his 400k to 800k is crazy

[pastel bone]

Isn't there a team with SS Lear, arc Steven, and colress to reach 1M+?

[versed shale]

Probably better to use Anni Lillie 24 than SS Lear

Colress is the main DPS as a Tech nuker for this round

For Steel AOE DC SS Lear would be great tho, but that’s not today

[plush palm]

colress has grid cost issues

only problem w/ him

[vapid kernel]

So if Wikstrom can 800K then BP Rose can prob 1M ?

[cloud timber]

wouldn't be surprised

[vagrant ivy]

should I be running BP Barry for rose or is sing without para still faster

[cloud timber]

dunno lol

i'd prefer bp barry but haven't tested enough to confirm

one option being better than the other

but between bp barry and h lillie in single target the difference isn't necessarily huge

[vernal condor]

Oh full DPS ok

But wait what's the point of Lillie if you go full dps

[cursive linden]

Her speed buffs

Increase move for all allies when her speed is up

[vernal condor]

Hmm

[normal parcel]

Wouldn't anni Lillie be better?

[cloud timber]

takes a while to get to her sync without spam

sing spam was used to get to arc steven's sync

and also get speed boosts

gauge would die

[normal parcel]

Guess sprint support is also useful

[cloud timber]

that one ended up not getting used actually at a glance

went from arc steven to wikstrom sync

[vernal condor]

you could sync with her first and steven 2nd

but yeah i feel like a steel zone setter would be better

[cloud timber]

i did do that on my attempt

arc steven + a2 lillie works for ss lear bc he's self sufficient on gauge, wikstrom is absolutely not

maybe if you were running specifically ny poppy

but she'd hog a bunch of the damage

[normal parcel]

In the end is all for the memes, because with premium supports.you can't even get 1m and colress is f2p, so probably who has holiday Lillie + arc Steven, probably has 5/5 corless too

[fiery rose]

So if I'm running arc steven/solgalillie/colress, am I better off moveskipping or just going all out dps

I vaguely recall the latter being a thing for one of the Steels

[vernal condor]

colress is useless if you go dps mode

[fiery rose]

Idk who else to put in there though

Steel's a kinda barren pool

[vernal condor]

then spam twave

don't go dps

[fiery rose]

Like

Barren as fuck barring the main two

[pallid girder]

Arc Steven + Colress + steel zone is the second best team in st so you really don't miss much.

[vapid kernel]

Ye Steel lacks super good nukes

Best nuker cant even buff his own attack

[fiery rose]

Fuck me this one is miserable

[cloud timber]

even if he could you'd still want arc steven

[fiery rose]

Colress still has to pop tm and then burn four moves before you can start skipping, and then you need all the other shit too

It's grim

[pallid girder]

As long as the opponents don't have burn or poison move I'm happy.

[plush palm]

colress also wants +6 if you run him w/ infliction freebie

and both nodes

[cloud timber]

don't need both nodes esp for 1m

[plush palm]

+6 for tryharding

[fiery rose]

I barely scrape 1m with both nodes

And that's with arc steven only doing tm and sync 1

[vagrant ivy]

I’ll take it

non EX with CS2

[vapid kernel]

If he cud then arc steven can be replaced by Red technically

[vagrant ivy]

me when the strat is syncing at +2 crit so your next TM can give SEUP

and you don’t have time to use arc steven TM

no overlap

[normal parcel]

Most of the times move skipping is the answer, dps run aree quite rare (I guess SS Lusamine, or SS Gladion)

[pallid girder]

Poopy right now is also DPS > skipping.

[crude sandal]

Colress grid expansion when for better nuke so he outdamages Poppy

[pallid girder]

They're not gonna give him more sync multipliers even if he get one one day I'm afraid.
Just some offensive sufficiency tiles and maybe survive tiles.

[crude sandal]

Also grass monke time tomorrow

Still disappointed Adaman didn't get striker EXR

[true locust]

Grass again. Oh hop crit time😒

But thank god we can sing spam at least

[safe prawn]

Me.

[true locust]

Would be too good since he always crit

[pallid girder]

Is there any tech + ex striker with sure crit sync?

[vapid kernel]

Mix Red:

[true locust]

Mix red suks

Since need terrain for b move

When use it he heal

[vapid kernel]

Dont worry we will get a -6 Special defense all oppo on entry unit soon

[true locust]

Or nah you can use lance red and lillie

[crude sandal]

You mean base tech with striker EXR that has guaranteed crit?

[true locust]

Only 1 sup sync but no need use red b moves

Nc red have it sure crit

[pallid girder]

Yes.

[crude sandal]

Not base striker and tech EXR

[crude sandal]

NC Cheren

[safe prawn]

Cheren

[crude sandal]

SS N at 5/5

[true locust]

Anni skyla

Also have it

[safe prawn]

Lear Skyla ssn have soften up1 via grid

[crude sandal]

OG Lear

[true locust]

Lear

Klara

Have soft up

[pallid girder]

Wow more than I rmb so it's really not the reason for Adaman not getting it tbh.

[true locust]

They need sell hop its why

Who would scout him🤣

[pallid girder]

He's in Variety trio banners so ppl who want Marnie would scout him just in accident.

[true locust]

Could skipp too:)

Most was get hop for ranked

[safe prawn]

That banner had really big value imo, 4.5% getting a new unit and all their kits are really good for multiple content, with 4 wtz uses (one extended), all galar circle, and tm/b move giving SEUN to them or ally/allies

[true locust]

Only good was hop marnie just set sun for leon. So leaf could replace it . Hop the best grass strike for now. Bede even was outclass nc serena better. Marnie if no galar circle would be bad too. Banner good but if adaman was strike exr . You would need just marnie its all.

[crude sandal]

Wonder if we'll have a Kalos circle setter

[pallid girder]

Anyway what will be the best team when sing spam available?
Hop + Lillie + ?

[long silo]

Lol

[true locust]

Hop lilie nc blue

[pallid girder]

No evasion gaming?

[scenic grotto]

Grass weak tomorrow
Then the following being fairy weak (H Lillie havers be flourishing)

[cunning rock]

I shall finally have 1M in every DC after Fairy weak

[scenic grotto]

Stages that I have hit 1 million damage
(Orange means I got 800k+ damage, thus might be able to get 1 million by using H Lillie)

[cunning rock]

SS Nemona cant hit 1M. I tried, the best I've gotten was 650k with Redlax and NC Rosa.

Against ST Fairy

[scenic grotto]

Well only time will tell because I managed to reach 1.9m on 3v3 thanks to SS Wally and H Lillie

[cunning rock]

Her issue of wanting her circle plus Sun with zero passive extend really drags her down

[scenic grotto]

That is true, if SS Nemona can reach 1m damage then it would barely be 1m damage and not much more

[cunning rock]

Still bummed that Lodge Lillie couldn't cut it because she demands way too much

Needing someone to buff her, faster atk downs, wants trap.

[pallid girder]

No ex Katherine hit higher than her.

DC Bede fairy sprint when?

[rare apex]

whenever so i can skip to 5/5'ing wally instead

[cunning rock]

You only need 3/5 SS Wally to hit 1M with ease

But I want to see how 10/5 Diantha performs here

[rare apex]

oh no i meant skipping dc bede so i can 5/5 dc wally instead

my 4/5 holillie ought be sufficient for 1m+ on fairy 3v1

[cunning rock]

DC Bede? That's not a thing yet

[rare apex]

regarding this

[cunning rock]

Ahhhh. We can hope but isn't it Hatterene?

[vapid kernel]

V Hop 3v1 difficult but maybe

[scenic grotto]

SS Wally + H Lillie
The best Fairy support duo

So good that they might not even need a damage dealer

[rare apex]

i'm very much looking forward to nc blue/ss wally/holillie for fairy 3v1

i'll get my vengeance

[dry whale]

This one feels like I cheated. I synced with Steven.

Pretty much confirmed it last night, premium units can push Aegislash to 1m but I see no reason to give him 20 gold tickets, maybe if Gauntlet was still around I would.

[vapid kernel]

They shud change DC to give you awards for each new unit you bring to 1M

Like... Wikstrom Custom Lucky Skill or idk

[vernal condor]

can't to bring every single unit to 1m in flying dc with glorialt

[vapid kernel]

They just hv to be in the team not be the damage dealer

[vernal condor]

the team did 1m

[vapid kernel]

[vapid kernel]

Rule - on type

[fallen trail]

is v hop/adaman/oleana best for triple grass? for the double max move

imma finally invest in adaman

[pallid girder]

That team was only used coz of no status rule, no?

[vapid kernel]

Ye im sure its not the best

Nc blue Lillie will be better

[fallen trail]

yea that team was used cuz no status but for a 1/5 hop i wonder if it might still be best

3/5 hop maybe not

since 3/5 can rely on sync damage

1/5 is mostly relying on the b move

also galar circle boost

melony might be better than lillie

specifically for v hop

[scenic grotto]

3v3 stages that I don’t have 1 million damage but think I will after adding H Lillie to the roster

Poison (764k damage with Oleana)
Rock (812k damage with Olivia)
Ghost (921k with Anni Lillie)
Steel (885k with MC Solgaleo), could replace Solgaleo with Gloria but she would need 2 candy for 3/5

[rare apex]

the only stage i'm lacking 1m+ in is fairy 3v1, but i got 990k with just 1/5 ss wally as my damage dealer

probably could breach 1m with better gear + damage ranges

[scenic grotto]

Ice and Ground I might need better units
I at least have 1/5 SS N if I ever decide to waste 2 candy on him for ONLY DC

[scenic grotto]

That would be the ideal situation rather than having to spend candy

[rare apex]

lillie's here to save the day when that time comes back around, thankfully

[scenic grotto]

Same 🙂

[true locust]

The best grass can be alot teams now

Nc blue hop lillie

Bianca hop corless

Milo hop oleana

Milo hop melony/lillie

Alot choise this time

[vapid kernel]

Ground you just need a ground zone unit

Like Rika or Lucas

[vapid kernel]

Btw Elio Red is a better combo than Colress Red

[scenic grotto]

Good thing I have Rika then

[scenic grotto]

Well I’m going to try replacing all Colress/Red combos with H Lillie/Red
And then try Elio/Red to see if that’s better

[vapid kernel]

Elio is only for setting up physical units

And debuffing 2 defense and 2 speed while at it

And self-sustain gauge

[scenic grotto]

Elio is good for units that can’t reliably max out their own offensive stats
Like NC Selene if you don’t want to deal with MPR on her TM

[cursive mauve]

Arc Steven DPS is real

[fallen trail]

wasting the +10 pmun on lillie feels bad

[vernal condor]

it's used tho

the last move is sunsteel strike

[true locust]

Plus better tank whit lilie since she have impervious

Low def its just some time waist

And better use bianca move 3 time. 3 eva or 6 in this game its just luck .

[cursive mauve]

Ok that’s more like it

[vapid kernel]

Wow

[scenic grotto]

It is interesting how for MT Ground on the Google sheet it’s mostly Arc Cynthia with one or two clears without Arc Cynthia
Also how MT Ice is mostly NC Red with one or two other units getting a single entry

Either means there Arc Cynthia and NC Red are so good that most people just want to use them if they have them, or there’s a lack of any other options if you want 1 million damage

[plush palm]

mt ice is fine if you have a ex hala

And redlax

[scenic grotto]

Ah, I have both EX Hala and Redlax so I hope the next time mt Ice comes along I get 1 million instead of 764k

[plush palm]

its ST ice thats way harder

last time around i only hit 800k w/ 2/5 ss silver

[scenic grotto]

Indeed, single target DC stages are my weak point

[rare apex]

ngl i like single target more than multi

[scenic grotto]

You do you pal 🙂

[icy pendant]

I do like how the single target stages feel less free to hit max key rewards on, but also I like free rewards so…

[plush palm]

depends on the unit i think

single lets you get in a extra sync

on some comps

especially if its a nuker w/o aoe sync

[grand oracle]

Ice rock DC thing coming soon but most my rock units are doodoo 💔

I have diantha diance but shes doodoo at 1/5 me thinks

[plush palm]

i get 3/5 cheren tomorrow

so at least thats a silver lining

[grand oracle]

I do have nc red, irida and sina and regice girl but doubt itll be enough

[plush palm]

no point going for leaderboards i think

[grand oracle]

I just want the rewardsss

[plush palm]

tbh getting the base rewards usually aint that bad?

[scenic grotto]

Same
The human desire for efficiency causing people to want to go for 1 million damage every stage
Even when the prizes are F2P units that are just ok

[plush palm]

hse is tomorrow

i cant remember what ranked dc is this month

[scenic grotto]

Psychic Single
Steel Multi (no status)
Dark Single

That’s this month’s Ranked DC stages

[grand oracle]

I have deoxys for psychic
The steel anni trio for steel
And giacomo for dark

[plush palm]

not sure what im gonna be running for ranked steel dc

my best spammer is aaron

[still hearth]

Dps run could work

[grand oracle]

I could dps run for 1m with the steel trio for 3v1 so i assume multi will be better

[cloud timber]

knew something was missing, dark is moves -80%

[scenic grotto]

Indeed, I left that out because 90% of runs are Sync nuking runs

[fluid anvil]

is the top 1 5M score - 10/5 Poppy?

[scenic grotto]

So apologies for not being in-depth enough

[lusty galleon]

if it is 2nice, ask Adam

[vapid kernel]

Ppl were busy during MT Ground

[cloud timber]

yea still affects stuff esp if giacomo and even if not

[grand oracle]

Mfw my only good dark unit is giacomo 💔

[brazen escarp]

Pretty decent

Technically better than my triple target

[icy pendant]

bonk is fun, same strats as Elek’s run with 5/5 Poppy just without the PMUN or SP3

[azure vine]

Huh? Who spams here?

[cloud timber]

they said in the previous message it was arc steven dps

[pallid girder]

The best score for Steel mt last time was also DPS so not surprising.

[feral hamlet]

Oh no, this ends tonight. Is this the best team? How do I get 1M?

[cunning rock]

Try making Colress as the DPS.

[pallid girder]

The second best (but prob the best for you I assume).
What's your Colress grid looks like coz afaik it's easy 1M with Colress spam + sync.

[cloud timber]

colress as nuker yea

[feral hamlet]

I just set it to this one https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009004037600&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=4444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgcKDQ8TFBYbHR4gJSYyMw&v1=019100060100&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBggYHSAiJScoKy0uLw&v2=011805073001&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFCQsNDxIVGBkjJA

But I had to unlock his energy cap

[thick stump]

should probably take infliction freebie instead of sentry entry

[cloud timber]

not the same team

[thick stump]

steven's using his b move to buff defense and colress does +4 on his tm*

[thick stump]

nvm i just saw lillie and not that it was holillie lol

[cloud timber]

if you're specifically using h lillie i would def prefer sentry entry over using steven b move, don't need inflliction freebie in that case

[thick stump]

true

[cloud timber]

i don't think the difference between a2 and holiday lillie is actually super significant output-wise from what i've attempted but h lillie has slight advantage, other people have had different experiences though

rng on both was resetting for single para proc

but nonetheless kinda important to not be using grids for a different team

[cunning rock]

Less than 2 hrs before 3v3 Grass. Let's see how 1/5 VHop fares

[fallen trail]

your screenshot uses anni lillie but this is h lillie

[feral hamlet]

Oh I picked the wrong team to refer to

I figured it would be a sync nuke grid for him though

[fallen trail]

yeah

drop sentry entry for infliction freebie

if you're using anni lillie

just use steven's b move once to get him to +6

[feral hamlet]

Yeah, I had to do that because he doesn't work otherwise

[fallen trail]

use your potions fast

on full hp mons

its the fastest possible animation

steven b move once and colress screech twice

sync w steven then lillie, then twave spam

colress nukes

[feral hamlet]

So only +2 defense in this comp?

[fallen trail]

oh colress does use his tm

that gives him +4

and steven gives him +2

[feral hamlet]

Ah okay. That could work out well

[fallen trail]

oop i shoulda mentioned this assumes lillie is exr

if shes not it wont work as well

[feral hamlet]

She is, yeah

CS2 on Colress?

[unborn otter]

Cs2 steel gear

[feral hamlet]

I came up short

Seems to be the difference of getting one more sync in. I managed to get one more in and improved this score so I think I'm set. Thanks!

[cloud timber]

well there's that

[cloud timber]

little better, 3 aqua tail misses though and para bonus helped and forgot to record

[royal jolt]

Adaman's SF4 versus the classic WW3
which one is better?

[sacred badger]

oh

its firday time huh

[cloud timber]

sf4 should be better but cs2/sp3 cover the first sync which usually isn't under sun

i use cs2

[cunning rock]

LOOOOL. 1/5 EXR VHop really can hit 1M with ease. Double B Drum Beating does a LOT of damage

[sacred badger]

hmm wait

i wonder if i can get away with

Mix Red + SS Giovanni and SS Hilbert for AoE SP.DEF Down O.O

okay i'll try that ❤️

[fluid tendon]

How many razor leafs are you using?

[cloud timber]

both

once at the start after synthesis, second after first support sync but before sun ends

i have recording of that one i'll show

[sacred badger]

Not... The wosrt idea

[true locust]

No mp hop and not all sync crit

I hate hop not crit syncs🙂‍↔️

[hollow whale]

Huh

Didn’t expect to hit 580k with RoSCa

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYM--c5D0gY idk if there's anything more to look for for improvements beyond damage rolls

[plush palm]

good enough i guess

could i do better? maybe

do i want to roll the evasion slot machine tonight? fuck no

[cloud timber]

melony/h lillie should be a straight upgrade..?

[plush palm]

i dont think melony is having gauge issues on a chase comp

I also discovered that oleana aint a terrible bianca partner

only slightly lower than my sc steven comp

[cloud timber]

think this nets like 1.8 or 1.9m if last sync hits

[royal jolt]

I have to suffer through a rally for Adaman's EXR

[scenic grotto]

Tip: V Hop’s sync is stronger than his B Move so 1 Sync + 1 B Move > 2 B Move

[crude sandal]

I'm surprised you only got 1.5M with a 3/5 Hop

[cunning rock]

Yeah, my VHop is only 1/5 but managed to score 1.2M with him

[scenic grotto]

Yeah, I don’t know why, my only guess is grid build or gear build

I have super syncer 9, both sync move buffs, and “increase sync move damage when in grassy terrain”

[cloud timber]

redlax does nothing then or is he still your best option despite that

[crude sandal]

Redlax is redundant unless you don't have any other options

[scenic grotto]

Right, I’ll try NC Blue then

[crude sandal]

NC Blue is definitely better

[cloud timber]

yea

also trip wire 1 should be better than trip up 9

[scenic grotto]

Still not sure why my final score is less than half of this score
Is the difference in gear used and power between 3/5 and 5/5 really that significant?

[cunning rock]

I only used 3-star Grass gear but I SEUN'd both of VHop's B Moves in my run to get 1.2m

[scenic grotto]

Oh I SEUN every attack I did with VHop
hop’s TM at the start of the match
Let the syncs apply most of the SEUN
Uses H Lillie’s B move after using V Hop’s Max Move

[cunning rock]

I never used to VHop's TM until the end to amp his B Move

His first sync is super weak anyway

[scenic grotto]

Well if I had gotten MPR on his TM then I could have used it twice both times, giving my B Move +6 PMUN instead of +3

[royal jolt]

Okay, game

[scenic grotto]

Got that MPR on Hop’s TM (and swapped Trip Up for Sync Move Boost 4)

[lethal siren]

When do I use red's max move and bmove

In begining?

[cloud timber]

sf4 prob better but need to get in the same run i did last time, this was without seun for first sync

also i was getting by on +2 speed without realizing it the first time

[royal jolt]

+2 speed is enough, is it not?

[queen moth]

Hello! The Damage Challenge sheet says that HLillie isreally good with Red.

Does HLillie need to be 3/5? And why is she good with Red specifically?

[plush palm]

Shes good everywhere

[cunning rock]

Redlax doesn't boost speed, unlike NC Blue paired with Melony, so he relied on Elio because he's self sufficient with gauge while spamming sing due to his passive. But that same passive made him slower than Melony for that job.

Since HLillie can boost team speed, you can run her with Redlax without running out gauge like you would if you ran Melony with Redlax. And there's no passive hindering her sing spam like it would with Elio

She just needs 1/5 as a Sing spammer, but it's optimal if you can get her Support EXR.

[queen moth]

omg she's only need 1/5??? wild

Would Mixred/Chase/HLillie be a good team for this DC?

[plush palm]

she only gets marginal improvements as a support at 3/5

3/5 has fairy options tho

[cunning rock]

Someone here did a Mix Red, Chase, and Elio run earlier. You can replace Elio with HLillie and be fine

[queen moth]

tysm!!

[vapid kernel]

Once again H lillie OP

[cloud timber]

depends so much on the comp

and how many syncs you're looking to get out

[cunning rock]

H Lillie is gonna be OP next DC. ST FAIRY

[queen moth]

I am supposed to NOT have Troublemaker on H Lillie right

[royal lodge]

Remove it

It takes time

[cloud timber]

h lillie will be op if 3/5, without that she's not nearly as impactful as in triple

or i'm not expecting too much from mine at 2/5

[vapid kernel]

Doesnt too much extra at 3/5 except Head Start and the SMUN

[cloud timber]

gauge actually does fine at +0 if you're applying seun every sync, for adaman/redlax/h lillie

for h lillie the smun is a big deal yes, ramming speed too

it is better to make sure you have both sync nodes than to drop one and take cs2 on grid even if enfeeble doesn't matter

was testing nc blue and larry again

same run as last time but solar flare 4

[vernal condor]

Oh it's grass 3v3
Urgh

1/5 VHop go

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob9_-fGtwBk

[misty forge]

Good first try

Would've gotten an extra sync with an aqua tail miss

But what can you do

[normal parcel]

Does damage

[vast glade]

Not bad of a result. Got some evasion hax here and there which helped

[normal parcel]

Is adaman performing better than Brendan?

[cloud timber]

seems so but we haven't seen anyone with expanded grid do brendan again with h lillie plus redlax or nc blue or something and that also needs to grind out sync crits

(and i do think mix red and v hop should outdo adaman but ig my standards are too high for most people)

better to not say too much

[pallid girder]

Last time the best Brendan score is 2M without HLillie's existence, so he definitely can do more.

[vagrant ivy]

I’ll take it

[vagrant ivy]

with what

[pallid girder]

NC Blue + Melony. It's in the doc.

[vagrant ivy]

is it +6E since that gets him his last mode

[pallid girder]

Yes.

[vagrant ivy]

maybe is just my gear issue then

[pallid girder]

Brendan also doesn't have sure crit sync, so all syncs crit or not matters.

[vernal condor]

Lol ok, that's worse than on super sparring

[coarse veldt]

I need help

I used this team and I got 150k

How do I get better?

[plush palm]

a actual para mon

probably redlax

[plush palm]

sleep spam is only good if they already have a status

[coarse veldt]

ah

Can stun spore work with Erika

[proud minnow]

It could work

but I probably would recommend Sonia more if you have her (+ EX'd)

[coarse veldt]

I used the tickets but I don’t have the champion spirits

But she doesn’t have thunder wave does she?

[cunning rock]

Spark has a chance of para

[coarse veldt]

ah I see

okay ill use her

[plush palm]

do you have redlax

Like he would be ideal

But sonia isnfine too

[coarse veldt]

I don’t have redlax sadly

[brazen escarp]

Who's my best bet

[scenic grotto]

Brendan

[plush palm]

brendan can do it if you ex him

otherwise i think hilda moght be able to put in work w/ her innate mult

i think she might be better than bren

for you at least

paired w/ colress

cant remember if you have his 3/5

[brazen escarp]

I got colress 4/5 now after nc red shaft

[brazen escarp]

What about without ex?

[lethal siren]

Chase or blue with mix red?

[plush palm]

considering how he performs w/ ex... probably not worth it

worth a shot

i still think hilda is better

bc she has innate + terrain

[brazen escarp]

Alright I will try ig

[lethal siren]

Chase or blue with mix red

[plush palm]

your options are really terrible

gl

got this w/ ex. divide by 3 and remove the rebuff and imo he aint worth your time

like he is getting less than 400k

[plush palm]

my best score on a bianca evasion comp is 1.3m

bren is really disappointing

[misty forge]

2mil for a f2p isn't that disappointing imo

[brazen escarp]

Ik, it's fine tho

[brazen escarp]

What?

[lethal siren]

Nothing

[brazen escarp]

400k is definitely worth my time lol

That would be like my highest score or second highest

[brazen escarp]

I mean u don't need more than 1 mil

It isn't ranked DC

[dry whale]

Only 1 missed crit in the first sync which was not a big deal.

Happy to be done in less than half an hour. I may try a triple b move just to see but I think the extra sync you would lose would make it not worth it.

https://youtu.be/xCcS6FXXCTY?si=AEh7u-LvWnqKmA8f

[vagrant ivy]

[crude sandal]

EXR when to old gen. pool units

[vagrant ivy]

he is the fourth genpool unit to hit 2m score following colress, ryuki and Lucian

tfw mega without mega tax

[graceful breach]

Would this work and how do I properly use Lillie for DC

[crude sandal]

H. Lillie would need a status unit (preferably a paralyze unit) and you spam Sing with her

If she is EX-ed and EXR-ed, then you sync with her

[dry whale]

I did the triple B move run, got a miss and 2 paralysis that I think I might have needed two of them, 4 syncs total for Brendan last 3 buffed. Final sync missed 2 crits losing about 160k

So as expected it was not worth it.

[pallid girder]

VHop (over 5M) > mRed (2.8M) > Brendan (2.4M) > Adaman (2.1M)

Funny to see any genpool remains top 3 dd in their type.

[dry whale]

Two missed crits, losing about 120-150k.

This was the last one I wanted to test. He really is only good for Dark.

[vernal condor]

He should be good with SS Steven

He maxes his innate and gives a flat x2 since steven has no mult

[dry whale]

Oh yeah it Power Play

[vernal condor]

rising tide but yeah

[dry whale]

Oh yeah that the opposite one.

[fallen trail]

hmm

i synced w oleana then adaman then hop then adaman

i think i can get 1 more adaman sync in with good luck

even though hop is exr its def better to sync w adaman if hop is only 1/5

didnt sync w hop at all this time and did better

but it did require using grassy terrain twice which maybe cost me a sync

i wonder…

oh hell yeah

sync order is oleana -> adaman -> hop -> adaman x2

might get a video for this when i get home

[normal parcel]

Not a flat 2x since generally you want super powered 3 LS,but still a ~77% flat increase ~83% with cs2

[vernal condor]

yeah i forgot about sp3 on the moment

but still the best boost you can give to steven

[normal parcel]

Yes that will help a lot

For units that already have proper multipliers, isn't worth unless dark

I guess NC Marnie will really appreciate Giovanni, she's dark and has low sync multiplier

[vernal condor]

for Rei it's pretty alright
But then again Rei likes to DPS a lot so meh

[copper dagger]

I've been away from the game for a while, so I'm missing a lot of good units. What's the best grass type to 6ex for this among the pairs I have?

[cloud timber]

brendan by far, aoe sync with inertia and mega evo with no sync bp penalty

for mix red havers i think chase + dahlia might be the optimal one for rebuff + aoe spdef debuffs + spam

[cloud timber]

you'll also get a lot of starter info from the pins, have to make sure you have some sync rush method to get the most out of this mode usually

[vast glade]

Tried again but this time using Lillie's Bmove twice

Better. Will stop here most likely. Even if a better score with this team is possible

[copper dagger]

I boosted everyone with Samurott then spammed stun spore for Sceptile sync nukes. The enemy was still fast enough to get some attacks in, so I might try swapping in someone who can slow them down

[icy pendant]

They’re going to be getting turns in anyways, that looks like a low roll that you should be getting on a single Brendan sync though

[copper dagger]

I got a slightly better score using Red to lower their defense and speed and Surge to spam thunder wave to raise my speed for inertia

[plush palm]

red is kinda a waste

those def drops are better of coming from colress

b moves are SLOW

[copper dagger]

I tried leer spam and it did worse

[icy pendant]

Do you have 3/5 Colress?

this is still ignoring the fact that Brendan should be hitting for your entire score in a single sync but the teambuilding still seems off

[cloud timber]

don't want to be using single stat drop or stat buff moves for spam, far slower than status or using 2+ like aaron defend order

(who you generally don't need to use unless ranked conditions don't allow status)

[copper dagger]

I don't have any Colress. I think he released while I was away from the game, and I just came back this year

[icy pendant]

He is in the Unova ticket scout, so he may be obtainable for you

[copper dagger]

I was using leer because I figured lowering 3 targets' defense by 1 was more efficient than lowering 1 target's defense by 2

[icy pendant]

Well with Colress it’s all targets’ stats by 2, but moves that buff/debuff multiple stats are faster to spam once they’re used to full effectiveness

[copper dagger]

I used all of my tickets and didn't get him

[cloud timber]

yea i meant different stats like defense and spdef or some other combo

can't afford bp barry?

[icy pendant]

BP Barry is also on the table at 3/5

[cloud timber]

does also need 3/5 yea

[icy pendant]

otherwise Sonia/Elio probably the best combo forgoing a typical spam combo

[copper dagger]

Should I forget about lowering the opponents' defense and just focus on spamming for syncs?

[icy pendant]

Right now you're probably hitting one good sync with Brendan so more syncs would definitely be appreciated

Defense is nice but they also have mitigations so it's not that big of a multiplier

[cloud timber]

it's not too much of a priority, more often than not you aren't dropping defense to max with the best teams

need to have a sync rush method and efficiently max out your damage dealer's multipliers or as much as you can

and even after that there's a bunch of better boosts to supply

[feral hamlet]

Brendan sure ain't hitting 2M lol. But somehow I did better before...

[cloud timber]

more crits before most likely

also double check your grids and skills

[feral hamlet]

Already the recommended Brendan grid

[misty forge]

Mine is doing almost twice as that

Are you running the right blue grid? Are you getting 2 para + flinch or 3 para on discharge T1?

At minimum?

Are your gears focused on Brendan?

[feral hamlet]

I settle for 1 paralyze. Does more really make a difference?

Gears aren't that great, but will it matter that much at this point?

[misty forge]

1 para is nothing

[misty forge]

They do

+80/100 atk is very different from +60

[latent plover]

Do you have Super Powered 3 on Brendan?

[misty forge]

Especially if you also have skill gear

Cs2 is enough tbfh

Rolling sp3 is a waste

[latent plover]

Yeah that works too. But the 2 million run used some insane gears

[misty forge]

Mine is +6% skill gear and +80 atl

Even with just +80 atk 1mil should be free

[latent plover]

Did you also used the grid tile for Blue that reduces defenses? It helps quite a bit for Brendan. Also make sure to sync with both Blue and Melony before syncing with Brendan

[misty forge]

And avoid doing useless actions like Melony TM or such

At any point

[feral hamlet]

Yeah, it's been the same load out with those two since forever

I could roll for better gears

[icy pendant]

oh that gear is actually kinda bad stats wise

45 attack is pretty close to min roll

[vapid kernel]

You can do 2M at least

[misty forge]

45 atk....

Actively worse than grass gear

Grass gear + not syncing Melony =

So with Melony sync you're definitely breaking 1mil

I also missed most crits

First two syncs had 5/6 non crits

[feral hamlet]

Even higher damage roll rng or something, so close but still not enough

[icy pendant]

using dire hit+ when Blue handles crit maxing

Brendan TM should also be a one-time thing

[misty forge]

I do it because one DH+ along team sharp entry saves you the long animation buff later in the fight

So this way blue doesn't waste time later on

[icy pendant]

sure but then don't use Blue TM, the point that they're over-TMing somewhere in the fight is still relevant

[misty forge]

Yeah absolutely

They're not playing the sing spam right

[feral hamlet]

It burns a turn fairly fast, doesn't it?

Aren't those worth doing anyway?

[misty forge]

What does