#Damage Challenge

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vagrant ivy
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yeah right

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it wasn't

cloud timber
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current highest is 8.39m

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so we'll see that go over 10m

civic island
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Can't wait a super sparring with ppl hitting 30M

gentle locust
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Oh yeah forgot mine didn't have sp3 too lol

royal jolt
gentle locust
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It's fine, we have the 13 mil already so no need to

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Lmfao?

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Ms Lyndis explain

royal jolt
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Blue is a very funny unit

gentle locust
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Explaination accepted have a cookie

vagrant ivy
royal jolt
gentle locust
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Sure

vagrant ivy
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but they have never done 3 triples in one rotation

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dragon ST + electric MT + fire MT would be somewhere around 28-29m?

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based on current scores

fluid anvil
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3v3 Electric
3v3 Water or Psychic
3v1 Dragon

bright niche
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Sst red tm is so annoying that healing with spam is taking too much time smh can u guys suggest me the best team if I have sst red and NC blue

royal jolt
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Elio

cloud timber
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needs 20% tm mpr but worth

bright niche
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Coz need cakewalk too

bright niche
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Thanks

safe prawn
bright niche
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How is Elesa btw??

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Spotlight one

cloud timber
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hit 2m with +4 atk or so i've heard

misty forge
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Wasn't he 8mil too circa

royal jolt
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I'll try Elesa again after I'm done having fun with NC Blue

cloud timber
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i think just above 6m

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it was a very massive increase this time

gentle locust
misty forge
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Then dahlia could 14mil imo

vagrant ivy
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people got that 45% opp paralysed: sync move damage up gear

misty forge
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Or 13

bright niche
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Which has higher nuke N or elesa ?

misty forge
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Imo

safe prawn
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But the fate is against me

misty forge
cloud timber
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9/5 is only responsible for 1.29x boost, rest of the improvement is 10/5 stuff and better strats/gear/h lillie

misty forge
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Oh right dahlia might not want 10/5

cloud timber
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yeah for dc she wants to sit right at 9/5

gentle locust
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And that's it

safe prawn
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Him having only electric or alola sucks so bad

gentle locust
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I have a plan for some UB teams as solo dps

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And yeah

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🙂

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My guy if had better bandanna could have +1000 hp

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So funny

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He tanked a -2spdef hyper beam from registeel like a champ

misty forge
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DeNa always overpowered Techs compared to all other roles

But between exr and now SA, it's absurd how better than anything else that role became with time

cloud timber
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fr

slender venture
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Tech strike specifically

misty forge
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The one and only instance where tech wasn't the best treated role was EX effects

Both strike and support were better, but now field and sprint exist so he's not even the worst base ex boost effect no more

vagrant ivy
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tech is the only EX effect that can't be easily supplanted by a passive

misty forge
slender venture
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Idk Dexio and AS Lance are cases where you see the lack of AoE

misty forge
slender venture
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And how it hurts them

misty forge
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Not like extend sync is common lol

vagrant ivy
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strike: expanded sync
support: sync move: sync buff increase by [x] (palmer)
field: ability that summons field with the corresponding extension
sprint: adrenaline 3 ( WEEZing )

vagrant ivy
pallid girder
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Wow he really exceeds my expectation by A LOT. I guess don't need to pick Power Plant at 10/5 is really big for him.

vagrant ivy
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if it became more common it would make strike EX redundant so

misty forge
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Steven is still great but atk form ages a lot every year that goes by

Thankfully the unit is more than atk form

vagrant ivy
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he is literally swiss army knife: the unit

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defense forme's 500+ defenses haven't been surpassed yet but with 400+ defense units on the rise after SA it probably won't take long

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and the attack stat on defense forme is really low too

misty forge
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Last week I got a rally clear thanks to defence form actually doing a fantastic job for Noland at r10

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Who would've thought

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Not me

vagrant ivy
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and we haven't seen the passive for extra sync buffs on anything outside of palmer

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not even on SA

misty forge
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Not surprised

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At all

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Like cmon

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Giving extra sync buff effect can snowball into very unintended effect chains

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I liked how they handled it on Palmer, giving him +3 pmun after sync AND giga impact unlock

vagrant ivy
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guess that's a more balanced way to do it

zenith jolt
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Any information about 10/5 N run ?

vernal condor
misty forge
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Looking at calcs

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Maybe 8~ with op af gear

misty forge
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Predict with shit gear

vernal condor
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stupid heat wave

upper radish
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got filtered hardcore

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4.1m

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would've helped a little if blue was able to get mind games 2 <.<

vernal condor
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This can get more, but my phone lags too much under electric terrain

royal jolt
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I got all three para, too

vernal condor
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I have to got for last sync with SEUN instead of 2 syncs

acoustic chasm
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Tried Nemona just for fun

royal jolt
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Nemona is so cool

fallen trail
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hes def outscoring ash

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dunno about ss hau

royal jolt
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poor Ash

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it's time for his 5/5 tiles and EXR to make up for it

acoustic chasm
royal jolt
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Trust
Brainpower and even more Brain Sync

fallen trail
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da heck

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they doing it for us

vernal condor
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nothing new

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surprising that they share it like that tho yeah

cloud timber
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yea first time that isn't sourced from datamine ig

fallen trail
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i mean yea we knew this

royal jolt
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has anyone tried Iono?

safe prawn
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Triple grass is Vhop, single fairy should be Wally/lillie combo
But who was the best for steel?

acoustic chasm
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I would but mine is not caked

safe prawn
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Can’t remember if sslear or dps poppy

fallen trail
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i think its colress no lie

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enables his own spam

upper radish
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oh my godddd

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ash gods...

fallen trail
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damn you got that with no spammer?

upper radish
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thunder wave

fallen trail
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OH

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time to invest in him

vernal condor
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lol

misty forge
misty forge
indigo aspen
misty forge
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Yeah, expected 2.5 with average DC gear

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2.8 with great ones seems right

dry whale
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So guess what I forgot to set up. A few dry runs confirm I do hit cap with the B move.

icy pendant
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dang I might break my Ash back out I have 10% for him at least

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(Rival/MC supergod pin)

sly gorge
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what are good supports to use for a ss hau team (he's 3/5 ex-r) with holiday lillie as a spammer (1/5 no ex) that aren't nc blue and chase

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i'm mostly sayin bc i don't have either 😭

upper radish
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HARD CAPPED there's nothing more you can do BUT that's okay

vapid kernel
icy pendant
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oh definitely not

vapid kernel
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I ignore those 10/5 ones

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Dont exist to me

upper radish
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hoooly

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swag

pallid girder
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SS Hau without SA still did 6M last time.

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Ash will never beat him without an exr.

royal jolt
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Multi

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Trust

true locust
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Hau no super can do 7m + if all sync crit

safe prawn
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There the big IF

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I really love and hate him and sshilbert so much for this

upper radish
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aids deluxe yesh

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can't stand syncs not critting

safe prawn
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I mean I love SShilda but sorry ArcLeon is so much better in dc just for the sure crits

vapid kernel
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Wtf

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7M

vapid kernel
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I cant sync 4 times

true locust
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4 sync

vapid kernel
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Not all syncs crit but i raised my score again

vapid kernel
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Without Adren I am 3 seconds short of 4th sync

pallid girder
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You will never want hs1 or Adr1 on your main dd.

vapid kernel
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Its on his grid, i mean

true locust
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My grid

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No need nothing just para and flinch all whit nc blue on start

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Its all about it

thick stump
upper radish
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yesh'

fallen trail
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is hop better than h lillie?

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for nc blue and ash

vernal condor
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eterrain

upper radish
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idk from batman's post above it seems like with h lillie he can get a higher score

fallen trail
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e terrain vs better spam and support exr

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hop does have one thing, blue doesnt have to fish for triple discharge para w him

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thats appealing

thick stump
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could i get the grid you used for him mallow

upper radish
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if you don't want to use ash's emm se+ up move twice then you can do that

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but if you do want to use both then blue will have to para all 3

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gimme a sec

thick stump
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tyt

upper radish
thick stump
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oh i meant hop lol

upper radish
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oh

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oh

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oh

thick stump
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shouldve specified

upper radish
thick stump
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ty

upper radish
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his grid doesn't really do much tbh

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aside from thunder wave spam in the start

thick stump
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true

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so its blue sync, hop sync, ash sync? and just keep syncing ash

upper radish
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yepyep

thick stump
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gotcha, ill give it a go later

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ty

upper radish
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hop might be fast enough to sync at like 2:00 so be sure to spam all your other tms first

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gl gl

thick stump
vapid kernel
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How does that work with Lillie

thick stump
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assuming its woke hau he sets et on fairy zone

true locust
vapid kernel
true locust
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Wrong grid haha

vapid kernel
hard sleet
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I have to see these 10/5 haus

vapid kernel
true locust
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This was my friend he have super hau😄

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I send best grid

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Not this pic haha

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No you sync blue hau lillie hau

vapid kernel
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Interesting

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I shall try tht

true locust
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For sync blue and lillie you would need 3 para so terrain is still up

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For hau

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Even 2 is end just befor his sync

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I got 2 and terrain is end

gentle locust
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I did a quick try and got 5.1 lol 😂 I wonder what did they find

true locust
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5,1m whit 10/5 lol . Dabbo you hau fan?

hard sleet
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How many extra tickets is 13 mil from just 1 mil

true locust
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Never expect you super him haha

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50k is 1 ticket

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20 is 1m

gentle locust
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Mine is 10/5

true locust
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Then go score 13m🤣

gentle locust
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Give me the strats and units and here I go hahaha

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Do I need h!Lillie?

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If I do then I don't have her, ggs hahha

true locust
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You always can use melony

gentle locust
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You think I can improve that hmm

true locust
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But then you need more rng like para procs

gentle locust
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I used her but only synced with blue

fallen trail
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gauge is a bit rough even with all 3 having turbo charge

gentle locust
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Yeah

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Ain't trying that haha

fallen trail
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but yeah neat team

gentle locust
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No more para procs simulator

true locust
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Para need always:)

gentle locust
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I am more than happy to transfer my efforts in UBs now with him

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I am decimating stages left and right with him blue and volo

vapid kernel
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Its the Mind Games proc taking extra time BeaBurger

true locust
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You don’t need para.

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For sync blue hau lillie hau

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This only if you want blue lillie hau.

vapid kernel
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Yes but e terrain ends before first Hau

true locust
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You need flinch para all whit nc blue first

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Not end lol if you have he 1 lillie and nc blue

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And in grid lillie he1 and sprint exr

vapid kernel
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Ye i do

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Its ends just befote Hau sync

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One of their mons have to para proc

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Unless i dont use all 4 Hau B move

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Then it could work... hm

true locust
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You sync blue then hau

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Should be up

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I never got issue

vapid kernel
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You always roll for all 3 para?

fallen trail
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45% para on each one, to get all 3 off one discharge its a 9.1% chance

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like 1/11

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sounds annoying but definitely not impossible

vapid kernel
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After blue sync my moves are X Speed All, Two more B move, two more sing, Fairy wish and Hau TM for cd

fallen trail
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society if they gave nc blue hostile environment 9 or something

true locust
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You see terrain is up

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Only when have 2 moves its start show its end

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Fairy wish you use latter lol

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You para nc blue b move sing

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Nc blue tm b move sing

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Never use hau tm

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Set zone fairy only on his last 3 sync after lille sync

thick stump
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Maybe its better

plush palm
fallen trail
thick stump
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Lmk how it goes

plush palm
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CS2 on red

ivory kestrel
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Finally got that 4th Hau sync, but a couple of non-crits sigh

vapid kernel
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Important

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
fallen trail
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still only get 3 ash syncs and 1 b move

thick stump
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Darn

fallen trail
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got like 10k higher but probably just damage rolls

ivory kestrel
ivory kestrel
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Damn, 10M+ on top scores, with top 1 at 13M. Super awakening did these?

icy pendant
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yep, just bonus stats and max gear

pallid girder
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10/5 can also ungrid Power Plant and pick sth else.

vapid kernel
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I thought datamine said Blossom has EX

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So much for Fairy F2P 3V1 900K then

plush palm
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the version w/ the ex icon probably exists in the game but it aint active for some reason

safe prawn
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No rival no nothing LarryDead

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And ofc sync critting and ncblue not par all 3

vapid kernel
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Blossom Chase and Red probably can still get 800K

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Or more

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Ok i just did the calcs

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Blossom isnt getting over 400K

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She suck

pallid girder
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What if datamine is wrong and we really can't ex her?

plush palm
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you cant

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At least not atm

vapid kernel
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Katherine can reach 600k max

fallen trail
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she doesnt have ex

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idk why they gave her the ex pose

plush palm
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this version of the icon exists too

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i assume they didnt set a flag or smth for whatever reason

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does anyone know how good 1/5 ss wally will be

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like i assume hes gonna be terrible but hes my best option for single fairy

misty forge
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But he enables

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So still useful

plush palm
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i dont have a better fairy nuker

pallid girder
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I assume not 1m able but score same or better than f2p option.

plush palm
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my other option is 1/5 wally + ss gladion

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no cakes

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bc my coins are all going to support

misty forge
plush palm
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ss gladions syncs hit like a wet noodle in 3v1

misty forge
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Because his sync is weak af

plush palm
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not sure what youre suggesting

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i legit have 1.5 ss wally and ss gladion as my best option

misty forge
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Lodge Lillie

plush palm
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what

misty forge
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Yeah?

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She definitely hits much harder than both of those

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I'm pretty sure

pallid girder
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EX Lodge Lillie did worse than non ex Katherine afaik lol

plush palm
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i tried her and it sucked

misty forge
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Weird, I would've thought she could hit 450-500k

plush palm
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i got 400kish w/ ss gladion

misty forge
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Sswally 1/5 hits barely the same

pallid girder
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Yes even without grid multiplier, 1/5 SS Wally still has zone & rebuff to support his own score to match f2p tech.

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Lodge Lillie's sync multipler being trap and atk down is the main issue.

vapid kernel
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Steel ST whose turn to shine?

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Back to Colress and Poppy again

plush palm
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colress + bianca is really good

dry whale
fallen trail
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wowza

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i dont have the patience to reset for the triple para on discharge

scenic grotto
fallen trail
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i just did the dc hop team

scenic grotto
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Cool

vernal condor
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I'm trying to use Elesa
I'm reseting for a DC2 proc on Blue's Discharge + a MPR on X Attack
The only 2 times I got it, I also got burned by Heat Wave PrycePain

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at least burn blue dammit

scenic grotto
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Ouch

icy pendant
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is there enough accel then?

dry whale
plush palm
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huh forgot he could do that

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still trying to roll blue

misty forge
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Nc Blue > Chase for 3v3

plush palm
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27k down and still nothing

misty forge
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He's on a banner? Or just mix

plush palm
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meant blue

misty forge
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Well I had to pity him on release

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It's normal to pity mfs

plush palm
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i mean

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i had to pity adaman so its just been a streak of bad luck

misty forge
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Well listen

plush palm
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was hoping id have enough gems to grab one kf the other MF but i guess that just aint in the cards

misty forge
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Feb-march '23 I spent 147k for 4 banners

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Free gems

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So I think very few people can understand what "bad streak" means

plush palm
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oh well

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gl dude

misty forge
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Especially since my next pulls

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Was pity for summ tate

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And 300/400 summ Liza

plush palm
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that lucks gotta break eventually

misty forge
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Yep

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So I spent 215~k in 6 banners

plush palm
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unless youre cursed

misty forge
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In around...5 months

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Only 3 were 1%

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3 were 2% (one was a 4*0.5% tho)

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(I got 2 units in 46k)

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Seasonal reruns do be rough

plush palm
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i usually avoid seasonals tbh

misty forge
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I usually scout them on debut

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They're usually my favourite outfits

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Now that I buy 3-5 3k bundles per year i can afford to skip to select some of them instead

fallen trail
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seasonals are scout on debut or pay for them

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no way you’re getting it on an unpaid rerun

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they’re rarer than poke fairs despite generally being worse

pallid girder
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Some of their outfits are peak tho, and I do care that.

wise idol
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Looks like I lack electric striker. Oof

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I'm just trying Elessa nuking.

copper otter
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if you're referring to rotom and Elesa. Rotom isn't a sync nuker.

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if you're referring to Zebstrika, she's viable as a sync nuker at 3/5.

wise idol
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Neither

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The emolga one

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Haven't attempted zebstrika

royal jolt
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Classic Elesa is brutally close to 1M

wise idol
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Yikes I gotta get good lol

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Is Lillie sing spam better than elio or doesn't make a difference

royal jolt
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absolutely
Elio is somewhat slowed down by Propelling Move 5
Lillie doesn't suffer from the same thing

wise idol
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Ah

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That will do 8t

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It

royal jolt
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I do wanna also try Melony sing spam in case she also works. The key difference will be her lack of sprint EXR

plush palm
wise idol
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I don't have hop lol

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Or do you mean the one from these tickets

warped gulch
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Yeah, get rid of ET

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Using Sing instead

wise idol
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If I do that. Do I still debuff spam till -6 speed with blue and Elessa?

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Prob right

warped gulch
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Do you have base Elesa EX ?

wise idol
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Not speed

warped gulch
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She is way better

wise idol
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Nah

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My Elessa is EXR tho. Lack of electric strikers

warped gulch
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Does Blue have cake ?

wise idol
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Uh let me check

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I don't remember lol

warped gulch
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If yes using him as a main dmg instead

cloud timber
warped gulch
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2/5 C Elesa doesn't have sync multiplier really hurt

wise idol
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Oh I don't have him caked. But i guess I could.

warped gulch
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3/5 EXR NC Blue will be better

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You can use NC Blue + Volner + Melony

cloud timber
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cases where you don't want melony are just when there are other spam options that contribute to multipliers better

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or offensive stats esp atk

fallen trail
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you should cake nc blue its a good investment for dc in general if 3/5

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bc of his tile that drops -2 defenses on sync

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it debuffs everyone if caked

cloud timber
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and for electric dc also applies aoe rebuff on sync

fallen trail
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also good to have at least one strike/support if you get a battle rally area 10 thats like strike/tech bonus lol but thats not relevant to here

cloud timber
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good to confirm nc blue exr as a solid investment

wise idol
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Yeah my only cake options for strike is SSR Cynthia and NC Blue. Why not I guess

cloud timber
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every strike bonus in rally really

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definitely blue first

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ofc cynthia will serve you well when ghost triple rolls around again but not for a while

wise idol
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Ok. Caked NC Blue

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What's a grid for DPS

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For him

cloud timber
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as main dd

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but even if he's not you likely still want to keep that grid

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for electric in general

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run cs2 on blue ofc, i couldn't afford the slot at the time

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though if you have elesa ex she does do better

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left grids and gear in the comments

wise idol
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Ty

cloud timber
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oh yeah volkner has no terrain extension so his 2 uses will last 50 seconds each, 1:40 together

wise idol
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Would exr Classic Elesa be better in this case. Squeeze out another sync or 2

pseudo stag
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How much support do I need to hit 1m on nc blue?

wise idol
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And ET towards the end

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I used Ellio

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For sing spam, my only option

cloud timber
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you generally don't want to use anything less than 3/5 on your damage dealer

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i imagine volkner + melony can get to 1m

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for nc blue as main dd

wise idol
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Ok

pseudo stag
cloud timber
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he does not

pseudo stag
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Aight thanks

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Why melony over elio tho?

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Or does it not matter

warped gulch
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Melony just faster

pseudo stag
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Rng sync accel tho

cloud timber
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elio is slower even with good impatient luck

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propelling move is too significant a delay

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not even worth trying to hope for if you have no other reason to be using elio and you have access to the gauge for melony

pseudo stag
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I got skill (gear) issue

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As in I ain't using any

cloud timber
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lemme test without gear but gimme like 20 minutes

feral hamlet
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Oh, 2/5 SS Hau is irrelevant. What is my next best choice?

cloud timber
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yeah max stats gear improves things a ton, with no gear and that team i got 456k, maybe sst red fits in a crucial extra sync too

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3/5 exr sst red as main dd can go up to 2.5m with nc blue/elio as in that's what i did

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heavy rng and skill gear ofc

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also for that recorded nc blue run i did get a massive amount of crits, only missed one

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grids/gear at the end

vapid kernel
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Lillie OP

hybrid lagoon
cloud timber
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for people that can't play around with sst red i think dc hop (and pincurchin) can be a solid electric terrain setter that can also potentially spam if you can fit in mga somewhere

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for nearly every purpose

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bad speed stat but it does look like people are making it work somewhat anyway without mga?

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needs field ex but not move levels

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generally want melony or h lillie if you're attempting nc blue as damage dealer otherwise still never give up nc blue as a slot even if uninvested bc 1-2 rebuff + 20% sync boost passive is always worth prob

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and fast setup and para while setting first rebuff potentially and gauge for melony

true locust
vapid kernel
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Technically i have time to fit in one more Blue Discharge but he was burnt so no

true locust
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Hau tmp is slower then spam sing

vapid kernel
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But its two countdown

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Well i didnt check tbh

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The time it cost

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The move itself has no effect because Blue maxed his stats and so its just -1 cd plus the null TM itself

royal jolt
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New best with Ash

brazen dew
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Another sync is possible, just need some dodge luck

royal jolt
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I think just using an electric terrain unit is better

brazen dew
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Chase is there mainly for evasion to land an extra sync

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And ofc kanto circle

royal jolt
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Thing is that Kanto circle is actually worse than ET, even at full power

royal jolt
#

Welcome to hate wave 😒

crude sandal
royal jolt
#

After I reset so many times to get the triple para, too

crude sandal
royal jolt
#

Adequate, tbh

wise idol
#

Yall weren't kidding about Elio sucks compared to the other 2 sing users

#

But maybe I can improve on this

misty forge
#

Well the good part about Elio is atk buffing and the fact he doesn't need gauge support

normal parcel
#

The power of WailordWhale

#

I assume is 10/5 SS Hau

crude sandal
#

Are you capping?

#

AS Leon has been dethroned just like that?

misty forge
#

13mil actually

#

Not 12

icy pendant
#

13 now, 12 at the time that I wrote that message

misty forge
#

Yeah it was 12.4

icy pendant
#

can't believe I got pinged twice in an hour on a message I wrote a day ago

misty forge
#

People just do not be checking the chat

royal jolt
#

Like I keep saying
Leon, the fraud

safe prawn
#

SSHau kingdom is upon us

vapid kernel
#

Leon useless outside dc

#

I think even skinny didnt do EBE w arc leon i think

safe prawn
#

Don’t know if she pulled him

hard sleet
#

I could’ve probably got a better score with just NCBlue but Kris is funnier

#

Got 4 miss run and then Hugh burns Kris

crude sandal
hard sleet
#

Too bad for me she was my twave spammer

vapid kernel
hard sleet
#

@vapid kernel

#

If my chase were 3/5 I think she could get 2 mil

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Cause she’s purely relying on fast gauge for her twave

#

And circle mg 2 would fix this (+ the extension)

#

I’d love for Kris to get sprint exr for any other game mode (she’s getting support) but I’d love strike on her too

valid radish
#

I did what I could TabithaHehe

glossy atlas
#

What's the standard grid for dc for nc blue?

misty forge
#

They're used on UBs

#

And Leon's UB performance isn't bad

vapid kernel
#

A standard NC Blue and Melony team might be better if gauge sucks, plus i think each thunder wave has a proc related to debuffs whicj take time

vapid kernel
hard sleet
hard sleet
#

I’m not a try hard 💔

copper otter
#

Maybe i'm doing something wrong but UB gio has been disappointing me for DC

pallid girder
#

I think ppl here agreed that new gio is just worse than sing spam and even not better than Oleana in no status condition.

vapid kernel
#

The verdict is he's useful in some cases

#

Like... dark weak for obvious reasons
Or someone said his SyncUN is good for units without multipliers but that is yet to be proven

safe prawn
#

Imma try him with SSLear in steel ranked tbh

#

And see how he performs compared to oleana

true locust
#

Gio is good for dark its all about him.

cloud timber
#

yea just for compressing spam and dark zone, otherwise not better than existing options in most cases (everything so far)

teal haven
#

Man 2/5 sshau kinda sucks

fallen trail
#

ss hau is trash before investment

#

i've had him 1/5 on accident for a while

#

genuinely no places to use him

pallid girder
#

SSHau can be a team SMUN stacker at 1/5, preferably with a wtz supoort.

safe prawn
#

2/5 doesn’t add anything for dc, it’s either 3/5,5/5 or 10/5

cloud timber
#

4/5 is really good for ss cyrus and 5/5 doesn't add anything grid-wise so there's that

#

and 9/5 can often be better than 10/5 or at least much safer

#

but yea

loud cedar
#

i might be doing something wrong

#

1.5mil with ash

crude sandal
vagrant ivy
crude sandal
vagrant ivy
#

I pulled him yesterday

plush palm
#

we cant say if you are fucking ip or not w/o knowing you comp

loud cedar
#

oh he has

#

vigilance

#

ub pilled

plush palm
#

ive seen comps hitting 3m so huh

#

you might be dome smth wring yeah

cloud timber
#

usually they're using something from 30-45% bonus on skill gear so account for that

#

on top of near max stats

zinc rune
#

Do i have anything i can use as a damage dealer?

pallid girder
#

Lt Surge can hit 1M in st so I assume he's fine in MT too.
Need ex to do that number tho, so you prob will get ~500k.

zinc rune
#

Alright thanks!

cloud timber
#

yeah it'd be on surge with nc blue + melony to be doing the best but that 1m was with 3/5 exr blue and ex melony and lv 150 and max stats skill gear so there's all of that

#

maybe something like this, you want to have surge tank, don't necessarily need to max evasion but more helps

#

blue needs to para on his discharge to set para for melony to spam sing and max sync count

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might be a lot if you're not familiar with it but that's as much as i can help rn

zinc rune
#

I also have holiday lillie for sing if that helps

cloud timber
#

she's an upgrade to melony unless you're using melony for her tm or you don't have lillie exr

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so use her if she has role, 1/5 is sufficient

zinc rune
#

Hmm alright thanks for the advice she isnt exr but i have the option to do her or nc leaf

cloud timber
#

h lillie has a whole lot of value in dc in general so i'd lean towards investing on her personally

#

but dc is also kinda my main thing

zinc rune
#

Thats fair. I have arc leon at 5/5 exr so i havent focused on nc leaf that much so i could certainly lean into holiday lillie

#

I think i will and give it a try

plush palm
#

hinestly you look like a new player so

#

go as high as you can but dont stress over not getting 1m

#

youll get there eventually but you just dont have the invested roster for it yet

zinc rune
#

Ou yeah im not gonna stress on some of the types i dont have a good damage dealer in but id still like to get as high as i can

plush palm
#

invest in chase tho

#

good general DC support

#

he wants ex

zinc rune
#

Oh yeah he is on my list to ex after i finish up the champion stadium and bonus stadium

#

Thanks so much for the advice guys! ❤️

plush palm
#

if you have redlax he is a good investment too

#

ex 1/5 is fine

#

elio and barry are kind of niche options bc you have the much better h lillie but its nice to have their ex just in case

#

not a priority tho

zinc rune
#

Alright good to know

plush palm
#

bp barry ofc

#

the roserade one

#

regular barry is kinda useless these days lol

zinc rune
#

When is the optimal time to use lillies buddy move?

still hearth
#

I usually do it when your sync countdown is at 2

#

Since her b move accelerates countdown by 2

cloud timber
#

there's some time range where you know you're not going to fit in another sync but you have time to use her b move that you want to use it

#

maybe between 8 and 16 seconds after last sync?

#

but yes you want to make sure you have 2 or more moves before last sync to use it too

zinc rune
#

Oops missed a key part of lt surges kit let me try again

#

Little better

cloud timber
#

blue's dealing a surprising amount of damage there

#

using discharge most of the time?

#

you shouldn't be touching that more than once

zinc rune
#

Yeah trying to get the paralyze and oh haha

cloud timber
#

in the worst case if you really want to lessen the rng you can grid he4 on surge and do one discharge one thunderbolt to attempt to para

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and that raises the odds to a coin flip rather than just 3 15% rolls

#

when you're also resetting for evasion and sync crits that might end up being better anyway

zinc rune
#

I mean i can always reset for first try paralyze right? I think maybe im just not understanding the DC am i literally only spamming sing? Like use the eerie impulse 3 times and just only sync with lt surge?

cloud timber
#

yeah once you're done setting up para and offense and multipliers you literally only want to use sing

#

but you also want to use x speed all + from blue for gauge

#

one tends to be good enough but use what you need

still hearth
#

Alrighty so I got NC Blue SophoKEK

#

Now I just gotta EX Him and EXR

cloud timber
#

grats

zinc rune
pallid girder
#

Did you grid him?

zinc rune
#

I think right now its more of a timing “issue” trying to figure out the queue structure and what not

still hearth
#

Yipee

vagrant ivy
#

is he beating the fraud allegations

cloud timber
#

being a fraud implies there was any kind of hype to begin with

#

petey is just entirely forgettable lol

proud minnow
#

He’s probably the most forgettable unit from last year

cloud timber
#

i don't think that changed

vagrant ivy
#

support meta

#

yes he is running SP3

royal jolt
#

I thought single steel was the most recent reset 🫠

safe prawn
#

2 resets

lethal siren
#

Is guzzlord good spammer for dc coz he has infilction freebie 9 at 3/5

#

And guarded entry 3 which won't take time from stockpile

#

Also sync move next effect

loud cedar
#

maybe for ranked dc

#

with the no status challenge

cloud timber
#

he's only the best option for dark where he can compress spam and dark zone, otherwise too slow and symun doesn't make up for it

#

he might be good for ss steven who'll get more out of symun than anyone else but nothing else is proven yet

#

the passive that grants him symun has the similar or the same delay as charging infliction/infliction freebie

#

and he's likely also going to need his own infliction freebie for gauge in a lot of cases

#

but he's not exclusively reliant on it for sure

acoustic elk
#

who should I use as Dps for the challenge?

#

doubting between emolga, heliolisk and alolan raichu

#

or maybe Blue is better?

icy pendant
#

If those move levels are 100% accurate this is looking like a struggle for you, it's either NC Blue or a very hard maybe on someone like BP Sophocles

#

or Elesa is probably better than Sophocles, but no 2/5 hurts

royal jolt
#

I severely overestimated Elesa's nuke, fr

vapid kernel
#

Ya i agree just use Nc Blue as the striker

royal jolt
#

Is Hau not great as the striker even with NC Blue as support?

icy pendant
#

non-EX Hau isn't really I don't think

royal jolt
#

Ohh
I thought they had the resources

icy pendant
#

4-star Hau tells me they don't but I could be wrong

royal jolt
#

Yeah
Could just be indecisive or unaware of investment-worthy units

hollow wadi
#

Is base hau that worth investing into?

#

Mine is still sitting at 4*

royal jolt
#

He's a pretty neat option for this DC, to be honest
Evasion
Easy Inertia set-up

Plus, being special, he's easily compatible with the likes of NC Blue

acoustic elk
#

but is it better to do NC Blue + Hau or just sing spam to do sync moves?

icy pendant
#

should be sing spam but you can try both and go with whichever one scores higher

brisk shale
coarse veldt
#

How do you usually do well on battle challenge

#

I usually get like 200k max

copper otter
coarse veldt
#

well

#

for the electric one

#

i used nc blue hau and volkner

icy pendant
#

There's your problem, actual "intended" DPS is far inferior to sync rushing

teal haven
#

Also no status spammer, so probably only getting 2-3 syncs in total

cloud timber
#

generally for this mode you want some sort of no animation move to rush as many syncs as possible, sing on paralyzed opponents is the standard one and melony/h lillie are best for that

#

h lillie being better but melony being more accessible

#

but melony is demanding on specific partners to both provide para and the gauge so h lillie and elio are more flexible but propelling move on elio slows things down a bit

#

and then there's bp barry and colress who have infinite gauge with specific passives and don't need another para user but are slowed down by those passives

#

second message in the pins will have an overview of all that

#

there are other options but they're much less widely applicable

plush palm
#

colress can technically do w/o the passive on a ncbianca comp

#

and theres also chase comps w/o a enabling passive

cloud timber
#

yea bianca + colress can do a lot for any physical attacker that isn't too demanding on anything else specific

plush palm
#

i cant imagine the new gio is too much worse than just colress

cloud timber
#

i can lol

plush palm
#

i dont have him

#

how much slower si eh

vernal condor
#

I wish I could candy him and actually test

cloud timber
#

he either needs really good gauge support to still be slower than colress due to needing that setup or he's stuck with essentially 2x infliction freebie worth of delay

#

but mine is also 1/5 and i can't afford to candy so i haven't used him in dc

plush palm
#

so way worse than we expected

#

i dont have him btw

cloud timber
#

a little worse than i expected but i think everyone else had higher hopes

plush palm
#

nc blue is still 6k gems away from a pity

#

so nothing to spare for him

cloud timber
#

symun being additive was not expected

plush palm
#

wait what

#

how much is +10 smun

cloud timber
#

yeah it diminishes the more you stack multipliers so on lucas in particular it goes down to a 39% boost

#

haven't checked on anything else and i'm not 100% sure how accurate that is but that's as far as i know

vernal condor
#

I knew he was better than BP Barry but that was as far as my assumptions went

#

It was hard to predict how good he would be

plush palm
#

so he needs a bianca comp

cloud timber
#

dunno if that's enough gauge but i think someone did that and made it look not too bad

#

but outside of dark or no status param it's a worse colress

royal jolt
#

I wonder how big Masters is on Bluesky

coarse veldt
#

thank you

still hearth
# still hearth

Ok that’s much better, this time I used Blue’s TM right before Ash’s B move

lusty galleon
#

from what I've seen, if you don't have Lillie, you can use Hop & Pincurchin RosaThink

royal jolt
#

Single steel is gonna be a little fun, I think

still hearth
#

Is that the next stage?

cloud timber
#

yea

still hearth
#

Niceee getting SS Lear 3/5 just in time

long silo
#

Colress my beloved

#

Or not he missed too many crits for my liking last time

versed shale
#

HauCrab I’m sure another sync is possible but I do not care enough about this mode to try a 2nd time

zinc rune
#

dang my dude! did you happen to record it?

cloud timber
#

clear sheet in the pins has a bunch of videos, one of them has a higher score

zinc rune
#

it's more about wanting to see HLillie being used. I did start looking at some of the videos and i read up on the sing spamming thing in the pins so i'm going to give my Ltsurge another try here tomorrow

plush palm
#

It changes on tuesday and friday here btw

#

So you have about 24.5 hours of electric dc

versed shale
#

Just Paralyze them first then spam sing

cloud timber
#

oh yeah i can just record a surge attempt rn

#

there's a more realistic target, used max special attack skill gear but no bonuses

#

ungridded blue and threw on trip up to surge to negate a speed buff by 1 if i needed it

#

no premium lucky skills

#

uploading

zinc rune
#

Oooh super thank you! Ill be giving this a try tomorrow

plush palm
#

like that 1.5x mult matters

cloud timber
#

yeah i can't match the exact investment so that's something you'll have to account for but all the details are in there

vapid kernel
#

Tmr Steel?

pallid girder
#

Steel st. Poppy bonk time.

crude sandal
#

4/5 Colress for me ColressLook

pallid girder
#

I don't have Poppy either. I just think it'll be the best strat.
I'll use STate.

vapid kernel
#

I shall test out my 3/5 tate

misty forge
#

Mine reached around 1.4mil last time

#

Iirc

royal jolt
#

I think my highest score will come from Kimono Grimsley

safe prawn
#

We bonking

royal jolt
#

I have Poppy, but 1/5 and just EX

ivory kestrel
#

tomorrow, non SS Lear havers will be...

safe prawn
#

Will be bonking

pallid girder
#

SS Lear is prob not that good in st.

#

Arc Steven + og Poppy + steel zone (don't know who would be the best)

ivory kestrel
vapid kernel
#

Ss Lear is still fine, 2M

safe prawn
#

But also Selene might work fine as well

vapid kernel
#

Ima test the difference of Lillie and Thorton cus i hv both

plush palm
#

gotta wonder how high non ex ppoppy can go

#

bc i def aint exing her atm

#

3/5

fallen trail
#

ny or base? it shouldnt matter for base

#

for ny she still gets 2 extension 3 zones… so 150 out of 180 seconds

plush palm
#

base

vernal condor
icy pendant
#

1 damage on 3 target bug?

vernal condor
#

and no video no grid

#

it's just someone trolling

hard sleet
#

I think even a lvl 1 scythed fury cutter would do 2 damage

icy pendant
#

support Butterfree tech shift Tackle exists

#

or no Fury Cutter is definitely better

#

troll answer is definitely correct but 1 damage would be nice to see

vernal condor
#

worst egg on a stage that raises def or spd, simple as that

vapid kernel
#

Yalls whats your next unit to be EXed for DC purpose

#

Mine is OG Cynthia... getting that 1M this time

#

Unless... if Mix Lucas is good enough then i dont need her

proud minnow
#

I invested more in SS Lear today

#

technically speaking Holiday Lillie will be my next EX'd unit for DC SeleneLul

safe prawn
#

I’m going for variety hop
I need my personal revenge for not being able to ex him in time for last ranked LarryDead

fallen trail
#

need lg back for more iPowerUpTicket

#

so i can ex more

#

but the answer is probably adaman

#

i wanna invest in him a bit

true locust
#

We get guilds new event next update

vapid kernel
#

I need to be in the same guild as adam

true locust
#

Haha🤣

#

Just we need see first how it work and how many members it can have

#

Since we only co -op have 3 players play online

#

So not sure if guild have just 3?

vapid kernel
#

Tht wud be kinda stupid

safe prawn
#

Where the WailordWhale guild

true locust
#

Its why if have more then 3 how we play then ? 1 each or teams

#

This all look kinda strange

true locust
#

And like all event soon or latter will be ranked guilds events

vapid kernel
#

Total score of guild maybe

true locust
#

Only if its not about spend gems for energy play

vapid kernel
#

I dont know how they can interact, maybe some chat room?

true locust
#

Then it will be about have top units

#

Yes like others game guild chat

vapid kernel
#

Or maybe guild members can TRADE COPIES OF UNITS

true locust
#

Haha its not fifa🤣 buy sell cards

#

We have nothing like storage for extra copy units dupe

thick stump
#

People would just keep making alts til they pull what they want

true locust
#

Never happend

proud minnow
#

Oh yea, they also mentioned cooperating

true locust
#

Yeap we be play in teams 3 player like last co op

#

This always should be same

#

But how many members guild can have its only mystery

#

And when we go play we choise teams or its random match up from guild player or who is online now?

#

This is kinda interesting how they do

safe prawn
#

Hope they will give stuff to make SA more accessible

true locust
#

💳

civic island
mild sigil
old valve
#

Ah crap elec 3v3 ends today doesn't it

#

Do I just Ash + Nc Blue it up or what

#

Ash + NC Blue + Holiday Lillie? Maybe?

cursive linden
#

Yeah that

cloud timber
#

yea

#

not sure the specific ash meta but since he has a b move nuke you prob want to try to build smuns to max that out as much as you can

#

videos and details in the clear sheet in the pins as always

old valve
#

I kinda cba to do better I'll take top 1k

#

Mayyyybe if I have some free time later I'll run it back though

long silo
zinc rune
#

Yay +100k from the weekend. Im figruing this stuff out

hard sleet
#

I feel like I recall surge getting 1 mil at one point

#

Maybe that was ex

zinc rune
#

Well i was getting 80k at the start not understanding how to DC haha so ill take this as a W

#

Eventually ill have the resources to ex him

cloud timber
#

1m was in single and had 3/5 blue and other stuff

#

though melony

dire spade
#

At just one pull away for my first pity in mix scout, should I select SS Ingo or Winter Lillie for DC utility?

hard sleet
#

SsIngo
Is more expensive

unborn otter
#

Does this seem low for cs2 on hlillie and ash and hs1 on nc blue with elec gear?

hard sleet
#

HoliLillie is more universal outside of dc imo

brazen escarp
#

Who is my best bet for electric DC

#

I can 3/5 hai if needed

plush palm
#

surge

#

hau aint getting anywhere w/o ex

brazen escarp
plush palm
#

still probably your best shot

#

gridded ofc

#

your options suck

#

just gotta accept it and grab what rewards you can

cloud timber
#

hau only has inertia to buff his sync, surge has devastation and static shock and an innate multiplier that all techs have even without ex

#

but the output is so low in either case that it's still hard to say

#

maybe hau just for levels and better potential

cunning rock
#

Off topic, did 1/5 VHop with EXR manage to hit 1M during the last Ranked DC?

long silo
#

I believe so yes?

brazen escarp
plush palm
#

gl

#

you have a little less than an hour

brazen escarp
#

Thanks

#

Could probably get one more sync but it's not worth it tbh

#

That's my 4th highest score ever in DC wow

#

The others have limited damage dealers + exed mc solgaleo

brazen escarp
plush palm
#

congrats

#

youll get there

cursive linden
hollow wadi
#

Yo it’s steel day I have actual units for this

cursive linden
sacred badger
#

DC time huh

cobalt jetty
still hearth
cloud timber
#

2 para procs, 1 missed crit with cs2, 0 overcap

#

maybe top 1 is 10/5 poppy

cursive linden
cursive linden
cursive linden
lethal siren
cunning rock
#

Experimenting with no status... And dang Aaron + Arc Steven + Pal Marnie can't work

#

Zero gauge

still hearth
#

I would’ve gotten 1M if he crit last sync..

warped gulch
#

Just pray it doesn’t kill itself

cloud timber
#

fairy single happening a couple rotations from now, still need 14 more sprint candy coins or 11 more yellow coins to 3/5 lillie

#

not happening lol

long silo
#

My Wally and Lillie are both 1/5

#

Gladion BMove nuke it is

cursive linden
cursive linden
warped gulch
#

Yeah no it sucks

cursive linden
#

Grass 3v3 is next, huh

#

Easy 1M+

forest forge
#

What unit is getting 4m wtf

cursive linden
#

Wdym someone has gotten 4M?

cloud timber
#

10/5 poppy is my best guess

forest forge
#

Man superawakening is stupid

#

No wonder this chat went from super active to pretty inactive after the original run

warped gulch
#

Not really. For me mostly after first rotation, we already know some best comp and strats for it so less active here

lusty galleon
#

if anything, SA is what would increase stuff lol

cunning rock
#

That's assuming most players even have access to 10/5

long silo
#

Also the lack of gems on rerun SophoKEK

cloud timber
#

yea it was pretty expected for everything to dry out after the first schedule with or without 10/5s

long silo
#

With that said I am excited for Fighting 3v3

#

But also I need gear LarryDead

warped gulch
#

Next one is …. 3vs3 Grass

still hearth
warped gulch
#

Well Mix Red’ll carry me again

still hearth
#

My 2/5 SC Sonia will carry me

#

TRUST

warped gulch
#

idt even 3/5 Sonia better than Brendan

still hearth
#

Too bad I can’t EX him

umbral sleetBOT
warped gulch
#

Look at that atk stats

umbral sleetBOT
#

STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAREX_0
‎ Type: TYPE_GRASS‎ ‎ Weak: TYPE_POISON

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 561
ATK: 394 | DEF: 161
SPA: 419 | SPD: 161
SPE: 469

Acquisition:

ACQUISITION_GENERAL General Pool
ACQUISITION_SCOUTTICKET Ticket Scout
ACQUISITION_HOENNTICKET Ticket Scout (Hoenn)

Alternates:

10019100000 Sygna Suit Brendan & Latios

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Sun Leaf Storm Minimal (2/5)
‎ + Full Boost (3/5)
‎ + Sync Nuke (3/5)
Leaf Storm / Sync Nuke Minimal (2/5)
‎ + Accuracy (3/5)
‎ + Sync Boost (3/5)
‎ + Brainy Rush (3/5)

  • if you can’t roll Dauntless
    Lucky Skill: Dauntless, Critical Strike 2 (for Brainy Rush builds only)
still hearth
#

Oof…..

#

Sonia u disappoint me..

proud minnow
#

And is Sync Power Flux like kinda annoying to use for DC?

warped gulch
#

Yep

#

Also Brendan mega so more atk stats

#

So lucky that he isn’t gotten mega tax

still hearth
proud minnow
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I think my Variety Hop will be enough for 1M

vapid kernel
proud minnow
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true

proud minnow
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Actually, I reached 1M in Super Sparring with him last month despite not having the resources to EX him

lethal siren
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One sync didn't crit

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And couldn't get time for metal burst

plush palm
lusty galleon
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aight, over 2M

cursive linden
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And his sync is not nerfed at all

proud minnow
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He also gets a 30% stat boost on physical attack too

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If I recall correctly

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Usually they get like 20% stat boost

plush palm
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does colress or poppy dps go higher

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cant remember

proud minnow
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I remember Poppy scoring higher than Colress just by a little bit

plush palm
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no ex

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so colress probably

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that *40 atk matters i think

cunning rock
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LOOOL so close

long silo
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I am super amused by that number

cunning rock
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Having no speed sucks

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Then I realized that I can use Growl for some gauge via stall

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And Arc Steven can waste potions same with Marnie TM

vapid kernel
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My only non 1M this rotation LilliePout

sacred flower
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so using Colress as the spammer and dealer is better than Lear

scenic grotto
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Not bad for not EXing Grimsley

candid nexus
hybrid lagoon
cloud timber
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ok done

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less than 100k behind my steel mt, 4/5 gloria isn't the best

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but also i didn't grind out a very good run at all either

plush palm
plush palm
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CS2 or SP3?

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my bianca comp is kinda finicky and uses cs2

cloud timber
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cs2