Damage Challenge

[pallid girder]

I just got 1 at the start and got burned immediately.
Fun game 🙂

[long silo]

Hate Wave

[pallid girder]

Anyway lets wait till SSA Gio drop.

[long silo]

I will do an attempt myself with SSA Gio later

[true locust]

Gio would be good only if you could spam him no need free move

[warped gulch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Xh8AiXPSdVs?si=T7M4VC6OFYz1YsxG

[long silo]

Pykuo are you able to pull for Gio

[warped gulch]

I'll just yolo him

[long silo]

(Able because you mentioned being no longer able t- okay ye)

[warped gulch]

Fk 3 Paldeas this month

[long silo]

I'll (probably) Select Atticus in March

Mela I'm sorry

[cloud timber]

i haven't played mainline since gen 4 so paldea can't bait me xd

[long silo]

Blueberry will bait me hard

Also Ortega because he will come with doggo

https://tenor.com/view/dachsbun-pokemon-gif-10205764073339375844

And of course anyone with Ceruledge

[sacred badger]

Damn almost

He missed 5 times too and paralyzed for 3

Welp im good

[teal haven]

Why does super prep exist it only activates like 5% of the time

[royal jolt]

Ok
Does Bianca have Hostile Environment?????

Three attempts in a row have been lost to burn

😭😭

[acoustic chasm]

About cerena: what's better? +2 more atk or sync power +50?

[cloud timber]

should be able to afford the +50 tile no matter what? it'd be the +25 tile that should come into question

[acoustic chasm]

I can't pick all of power play, soften up, sync power and TM MPR

[cloud timber]

oh yeah soften up

[royal jolt]

I wish I could afford it, but to get all of them is +10E

[crude sandal]

Who needs Soften Up anyways

[vernal condor]

Giovanni could already start performing well today, as he got dark zone

Cant wait to see how good he is

[royal jolt]

Me, who initially failed two of three crits

This is better

Lots of evasion and Queue Cutter procs

[cloud timber]

you could figure out for yourself on pomatools but since you're asking it is better to have mpr rather than sync +50 100% of the time

even if you're only looking for a single mpr bc you can grind for two esp if you're already using soften up

[acoustic chasm]

Yeah I only need one, hol jasmine gives +2

[cloud timber]

that leaves it in favor of sync +50 if you always have +4 base to work with

[sacred badger]

Yeah it stinks ;-;

[acoustic chasm]

Thanks

[cloud timber]

np

[long silo]

He did not dodge anything, nor I got any para proc

That said I remember my score not being this low at this stage. And I'm sure I did not miss a crit in those 4 syncs

Oh wait I have Defense Crush equipped

I thought it was part of his kit that I somehow missed lol

[royal jolt]

It be like that

[long silo]

Oops I also forgot gears

[proud minnow]

was thinking of doing a funny attempt with him, guess I know how he would perform

[long silo]

Last sync, which has SEUN, did not crit

[long silo]

And that's the burn I'm dreading

[pallid girder]

Just realized last time the highest was 2.5M.
It seems Giocomo beat NC Serena or SC Zinnia and becomes the new dark st king?

[cloud timber]

giacomo is hurt a lot by damage cap currently

[long silo]

Crit. Yay

I'll charge phone first then try Lodge Lear

[cloud timber]

9/5 ss cyrus with good gear can match top score

[pallid girder]

Would SSA Gio replace Eri and make Giocomo higher?

[cloud timber]

he'll definitely boost giacomo, to what extent i don't know

[royal jolt]

Not even that far from using Calem, too

[true locust]

If giacomo have sync 10 up

Gio kinda not do anything for him better then eri

If b move hit 999k any way

Eri you need if kick steven then damage b move can be lower

[cloud timber]

he'll get the chance to fit in a lot more syncs potentially

currently only fits in one of his own sync after steven and eri sync

[true locust]

You would need use eri gio and giacomo

Steven no spot for him

[cloud timber]

yeah

[true locust]

Eri sync then gio sync and giacomo hurt b move damage but sync more and whit zone

So maybe 3 m this team can do

[pallid girder]

I thought rebuff + seup is important but I guess I could be wrong

[cloud timber]

well i own 0 of them

steven will run into less overlap if gio is working with 5/5

[true locust]

Gio have zone

Its same is super up

Only no low def its why b move may hit lower but maybe you can use one early second in the end

[cloud timber]

i think i can actually afford to 9/5 ss cyrus at some point and he'll be able to carry my dark mt and st a lot more than he already does but very expensive for f2p and it won't matter much anywhere else lol

much unlike 10/5 ss lysandre who gets a big boost to lg/la and ub performance too even with passives that don't look amazing on paper

and as much as people can complain about awakenings being a whale thing they're obviously not always

[vast glade]

Got luck with impatiant triggering once (twice, actually but second was when I had sync proc already so that was a waste) and Heat Wave missing once. Unfortunately, Red didn't refresh so I couldn't sync one last time. Timer literally ended with one move away from sync

[pallid girder]

But not swapping out SC Steven you get rebuff 1.3 x seun 1.5 x zone 1.5 and still have PMUN stack (prob wont get 2 +10 PMUN bmove tho)

[vapid kernel]

Impressive

[long silo]

DPS spam. Was there a better way to handle this

[vernal condor]

you're lacking so many stat buffs with this team

[long silo]

Also my first sync with him using Bianca + Colress is at 99k so it's not looking too good

[vernal condor]

ah he got fortuitous, didnt know

[long silo]

Wait what. I have +6 Spd/Eva/Atk/Crit, then the remaining are from Power Trip

But also yes.

Which brings me to my question

Power Trip has no cap?

[vernal condor]

nope

[long silo]

[vernal condor]

well, yes, it caps when all stats are maxed

[long silo]

That changes a lot of things

Namely SSA Gio

[vernal condor]

yeah ssa gio helps a lot

[long silo]

I will pull for him, but I was hoping to actually do some stuff before he arrives

I went Hilbert so I don't have to deal with Lear's GH

Plus Circle

[vernal condor]

this grid?

[long silo]

That plus Fierce Entry yes I have him at +10E

[vernal condor]

why fierce entry when you have hilbert

[long silo]

Then again, I synced with Hilbert. That might be a waste

I thought his TM would just give +2. I EXed him for this exact moment

[vernal condor]

nah his tm is +3

hence why he's only beat by fucking ARC STEVEN for fastest physical dps buffer

[long silo]

Lmao wild

I'll try again, but this time w/o Hilbert sync

[vernal condor]

without rng, i must specify
but even with rng other pairs only tie with him

[vernal condor]

i think hilbert sync has a lot of value since your main source of damage is power trip

[long silo]

Hmmm so I'd stick with Bianca + Hilbert. Got it

[vernal condor]

I think yes

[long silo]

Hmmm I think I'll try to use power trip as early as possible and see

[vapid kernel]

Where Cheren 1M

[long silo]

Nice

Not sure if there's anything more I can do before Gio arrives

[vagrant ivy]

5 syncs

[vernal condor]

what is chase doing here, just for para and evasion?

[vagrant ivy]

yeah

stats ig

[warped gulch]

I tried Calem and got 666k with non Ex Lear

[long silo]

Ooh I can try that

Erm which Calem lol

[vernal condor]

nc ofc

[long silo]

Mine is 1/5 pls understand

[vagrant ivy]

[vernal condor]

that's not an issue

[vagrant ivy]

what does he do

[vernal condor]

dark zone, evasion

also maxes lear's stats more easily

[long silo]

The one that gets added is SpA +2. Bianca covers Spd and Evasion already

[vernal condor]

not dark zone

[long silo]

He has Group Fortification at 2/5, and while I would LOVE to 3/5 him, now's not the time

Oh stat wise. Zone of course would help lol

[vernal condor]

mine will stay 2/5 forever, his 3/5 doesn't interest me

[warped gulch]

Non EX Lear too

[long silo]

Shiny Greninja is peak for me so yeah. He'll get there someday

[vernal condor]

ash greninja one day (never)

[long silo]

[vagrant ivy]

will try non ex dc cheren and see how he holds up

[vernal condor]

not

[warped gulch]

No Tech really hurt him

[long silo]

Do you have vid for this. Or may I at least know the move sequence

[vernal condor]

im surprised by only 1 double team used

[warped gulch]

I didn’t record it sadly

[long silo]

Oh it's fine. Just want to ask if you synced with Calem

I actually ran out of time and was not able to do Lear sync lol

[warped gulch]

Yes, i still Synced with Calem

I think you need to dodge a lot

[long silo]

Thanks. I'll try something then

Okay ye that might be it lol

This was one Power Trip off sync. Ye so #skillissue

Can't quite get there lol. Another #CookieIssue

[misty forge]

Just farm more deluxes

Lol?

Oh wait you can't!

[long silo]

Time to upload some stuff

[sacred badger]

I kinda wanna see if u can do it but with ss gio 2

[long silo]

Oh I'll try it

Unless I do not get 3/5, but we'll see

So really depends on how cooperative his banner will be

I'll go for spark so at the bare minimum 1/5

I actually want to redo my Archer run with him and NC Bianca

[vapid kernel]

My ss cyrus scored 1.5M

Why so low

[safe prawn]

Mine is 1.76 but he lacks exr so it’s fine

[long silo]

https://youtu.be/Z8zbKzwKULk

[vapid kernel]

Could reach 2M but i didnt roll for Red TM MPR

[cursive linden]

Would anyone want to try how good SS2 Gio's Stockpile spam is?

[icy pendant]

I can if nobody beats me to it

at work so the amount of things I can do when Gio drops is pretty limited but I do have a pity ready to go for him and plan to pull

[cloud timber]

with chase/nc blue for cyrus and 6 syncs with 2 seuns off super preparation (20% but you have more than one chance potentially) he can 2.4m with 4/5 and whatever gear i have i think

possible to roll a third

7 syncs kinda looks possible but i reset for a few hours and didn't manage and realized it's better to just roll for 2nd/3rd seun both rng and point-wise i feel like

[old valve]

Not sure of which of these would be my best pick for this DC

[cloud timber]

marnie

her b move can make up for no 3/5 sync bonuses

[icy pendant]

Cerena is also an option if you have her (3/5)

[cloud timber]

check that too

[old valve]

I wish

[icy pendant]

yeah then Marnie probably outperforms MR by a bit (his setup )

[old valve]

So wait should I use nc marnie b move every time it's up then or like

When

[cloud timber]

every i feel like

i am unfamiliar with 1/5 nc marnie and masked royal though so i'm not sure what to expect exactly

[old valve]

Roger

I'll fiddle around with it a few different ways, see how it turns out

[icy pendant]

I know MR syncs hard but aren’t his multipliers pecking order + something else hard to set up?

[old valve]

Probably won't use b move for after the support syncs and stuff

I know he's got the Evasion one somewhere but idk if that was for normal moves or syncs

Oh and inertia I think

[icy pendant]

oh pecking order + inertia innate, evasion is on DPS

surely we have a faster attack debuffer than SC Irida

[old valve]

Side note if we ever get a lodge unit with pikipek and it doesn't have pecking order I will sue dena myself

[cloud timber]

dc wally can simultaneously debuff attack and defense and speed and set para so he's a noteworthy option if you need to use mr

slippery slope 9 can be worth too

bob and weave is there but not for syncs

[icy pendant]

Darkest Lariat doesn’t hit hard enough to consider it imo

[cloud timber]

yeah i wouldn't

means you don't have to worry too much about farming evasion too

[old valve]

Hmmmmm.

I'll give credit where it's due, b move was outdamaging sync

But they were taking so longggg

[cloud timber]

alright yeah that does make it look like MR has a better shot

unless bp barry plus dc marnie somehow does better than that team or something

[old valve]

I doubt it

Holiday Lillie kinda cooked there with how many non syncs I was tossing out

[cloud timber]

yeah i was thinking zone could give a lot more juice to whatever you could still manage to get out but you miss out on master passive 10% bonus and debuffs and bit of smun

lol got ssag on the one multi i was going to do

literally just doing it for the coins, idk when i'd even want to candy him

[long silo]

Aight, I'll be back in 2 hrs to cook stuff

[pearl dawn]

Giovanni has the Aaron spam.

let's go.

[cloud timber]

2 bars and relatively low speed stat so he'll really want 3/5 infliction freebie to take on that role

[pearl dawn]

Which is fine.

That infinite SYMUN is looking delicious.

[cloud timber]

yeah i'll check the delay for that in a sec

[pearl dawn]

It doesn't look any different.

If it is, it's not really noticeable.

[cloud timber]

ah

[cursive linden]

It can spam Stockpile 4 times at a time

[pearl dawn]

He's gonna want the Infliction Freebie.

Or Speed and MGA.

That was at +6 Speed though lol.

But no EX or EXR.

140 0/20 gridless.

[cursive linden]

He's gonna be slightly faster

I'm just gonna wait for next reset for that battle rally exchange reset

[cloud timber]

looks like it might be similar to charging infliction/infliction freebie/bad break 9 bc i think it is there

but no more than those

[fallen trail]

that’s pretty good

infliction freebie will probably be needed

his existence on a team brings the gauge down

[sullen zephyr]

can ssag spam?

[fluid anvil]

oh shit that really fast wtf

[misty forge]

Look up 10 messages

[fluid anvil]

Gio top-tier DC pair?

[cloud timber]

yeah he has infliction freebie but we'll see how hard it is to get to 5/6 syncs like bp barry and colress

[misty forge]

Those syncs getting 10 SYUP definitely seem worth for most pairs in exchange for slower spam than sing

Especially since he frees up third slot

[sullen zephyr]

i just candied him

gonna test it myself

[cloud timber]

yea 10 is a lot esp for how little time is consumed

[cursive linden]

It's gonna be like Oleana

[misty forge]

Except he can choose

Between using high gauge supp or slower spam

[cloud timber]

that uh sounds like oleana but with worse speed stat and no mgb

[fluid tendon]

Well this is going make my decision to 3/5 him or chase a lot harder

[fluid anvil]

Maybe he can boost AS Cynthias score. She can afford to run him and +100% to those syncs is big

[long silo]

Perfect

[sullen zephyr]

does team fast track 9 eat up your time?

[cursive linden]

This is Gio's grid for NC Serena(Dark), right?

[cloud timber]

looks like it should be it

[sacred flower]

giovanni isnt good spammer

quit it, his passive makes his spam too slow

[misty forge]

Well yeah, but oleana doesn't give zone and 10 SYUP every cycle so he's still useful too

[fallen trail]

i dont feel like the extra sync boost tile is needed

he should still get +10 for each sync

[cloud timber]

ontype he's a top option for sure

[fallen trail]

you can run this

now he only needs to stockpile once

before it becomes spammable

[cursive linden]

No SyEUN

But eh

[fallen trail]

thats his base passive

that gives syeun

he doesnt need another one

[cursive linden]

Oh so that's why i got 3 SyEUN per stockpile

[cloud timber]

oh yeah

[fallen trail]

yeah his base passive gives 2

no need to go for a third on grid

[vernal condor]

Always has been

[long silo]

My game froze during recording LMAO

[vernal condor]

My prediction on the tierlist was pretty conservative since we didnt know much on how he'll actually play, but he might be better than Lillie lol

[cloud timber]

candy demanding though

hungry guy

[still hearth]

Can 3/5 NC Marnie get 1M in this?

[cursive linden]

Dunno

Don't have her

[still hearth]

iOS

Oops*

Didn’t mean to reply

😭

Sorry

[vernal condor]

Not necessarily

He could be used like a 1/5 Oleana

[cloud timber]

dunno how much use she sees

[vernal condor]

I've used her to enable SS Lyra before

But Giovanni should be much better because of SyMUN, I'll try using him

[royal lodge]

oh you can spam his swallow stockpile

[cursive linden]

You can???

but why? it removes your defenses

[icy pendant]

I think they meant stockpile

[royal lodge]

yeah that my bad

[zenith jolt]

Stock is spammable

[icy pendant]

because B Swallow is definitely not spammable as you can’t even chain it with itself

[zenith jolt]

Awesome I knew he’ll be good for DC

[sacred badger]

Can definitely crack 2m

Hrm my redlax is 1R though

[sacred badger]

Is your Guzzlord EXRd?

[icy pendant]

if you scroll up a couple messages it may be closer to cracking 3m, isn’t 3/5 Redlax only making an Adrenaline 1 of a difference

[olive wraith]

caked

[sacred badger]

Hahaha. Okay might as well

[cursive linden]

Hmmmm

[vapid kernel]

Just 3/5 DC Cheren and then ex

[old valve]

DC Cheren? Huh. Didn't realise he was even good lol

[cursive linden]

Yeah, he needs his EXR

[cloud timber]

3/5 dc cheren is supposed to be better than MR but needs investment

[vapid kernel]

Omg Giovanni gives team Sync Up?

Still hes ugly af, not pulling

[cloud timber]

yeah that's his big draw for dc

or his unique thing

[vapid kernel]

10 sync up is like a 1.5 multiplier or what

[old valve]

Oh I just barely have enough training tickets

Game is trying to kill you, run faster

[last stream]

100% or x2

[cloud timber]

invest only if you're sure you need the potential increase over your current options more than the ticket cost

[last stream]

additive will skills like cs2

[snow raptor]

Zinnia for Dark no ?

[vapid kernel]

Damn so Gio can double sync power but his passive will mean one less sync

[old valve]

Honestly yeah I ain't sure

[vapid kernel]

Oh additive

[cursive linden]

wait, this is #1255888121648644197

[vapid kernel]

[old valve]

Rally Challenge when

Let me use Apple Cup in this

[zenith jolt]

x2 multiplier

[fluid anvil]

so without Infliction Freebie - is Gios Stockpile spam just as fast as Aaron spam?
or still slower because of the SyMUn passive?

[cloud timber]

looks like the passive is same cost roughly as charging infliction

but without gauge help

delay helps a little but i've been very concerned over that speed stat even with the possibility of using chase

[vernal condor]

Slower

[cloud timber]

and the passive delay to help recover gauge too

[fluid anvil]

hmm, so its always slower than Aaron.
Then - does it get even slower if you add Infliction Freebie or not?
or does IF not add any extra time, since it resolves at ~the same time as SyMUN passive?

[vernal condor]

It doesnt seem to get slower

If it does it's not by much

[cloud timber]

i'd be surprised

[vernal condor]

So he's a straight up better BP Barry

[fluid anvil]

so there is no reason to NOT use IF?

[vernal condor]

Basically

He just released so he still needs so testings, but so far yeah

[cloud timber]

“not by much” is the exact amount charging infliction delay is

i've been skeptical but we'll see what he does offtype

def a top tier dark zone setter no question

[sullen zephyr]

gio is kinda slow at spamming, but not that slow. feels like about the same level as barry or colress to me

[vernal condor]

Yeah he's barry-fast

[hybrid lagoon]

Does gio have freebie next

[last stream]

should I not use fast track 9 in dc then

[vernal condor]

Nah

[last stream]

has IF9 in 3/5 grid

[vernal condor]

Isnt it infliction freebie

[cloud timber]

infliction freebie 9

[last stream]

IF9*

[sullen zephyr]

fast track still has animation if it fails right

[vernal condor]

I dont think so

[cloud timber]

ci9 would give 9 gauge

[vernal condor]

Big gauge™️

[sullen zephyr]

how many times should i click water shuriken with cerena?

i did 3 but that seemed overkill

[vernal condor]

It's 3

• the b move

[sullen zephyr]

• 1 brutal swing right?

[vernal condor]

Yeah

[sullen zephyr]

i just did 1.8M with gio and redlax

last rotation i did 2M with cyrus and redlax

[true locust]

Why you use lax?

[scenic grotto]

Darn, now I am tempted to pull for Giovanni

[pallid girder]

Waiting for Gio Gio (Giovanni + Giocomo) combo!

[fluid anvil]

so Gio is more or less BP barry with +100% sync damage and a Dark Field zone?
Also for non-Dark stages you probably DONT want to cake Gio, right ?

[cloud timber]

i don't think he can be as fast as bp barry when he has two non-instant passives that shouldn't overlap time-wise

and no para does matter

[scenic grotto]

It’s amusing how Giovanni might not want cake

[cloud timber]

if you can overwrite his zone with another field ex it won't matter in those cases at least

[fluid anvil]

Overwrite how? The Field zone animation will always play no matter what, no? Thats what you want to avoid

[cloud timber]

field ex has no zone set animation

ssa cynthia's zone isn't field ex

[fluid anvil]

It doesnt? Didnt know that
good then

[cloud timber]

yeah much better than zone on sync passives which do suffer that problem

[cloud timber]

aside from possibly lacking extension on its own

the downgrade with gio field ex is the zone running out animation

[fluid anvil]

if Gio spam is equal to BP barry, then I think he could be good with +100% sync dmg
if its even slower, than idk, thats too slow?

[fallen trail]

mfw i finally get a run with 2 mprs from serena and she misses 2 sync crits

[olive wraith]

too much paralysis in my gear,need someone paralysis and buff

[true locust]

3 serena sync?

[olive wraith]

yes

[true locust]

Same like Darkrai team

Just diffrent spamer😄

[scenic grotto]

Redlax bodyslam can paralyse

[pallid girder]

I mean no matter what Gio is still one of the few no status spammers so he'll see use in the future.

[vernal condor]

Bleh

Giovanni isnt R

[fallen trail]

champion calem in 2025

[royal jolt]

so, does SyMUN not slow down Giovanni's spam? or?

[fallen trail]

it does slightly

but the trade-off is double sync move damage

so gotta weigh if its worth it

[vernal condor]

I couldnt think of anyone else with MGA + some good dps increase

Ig NY Lillie but the b move is slow

[fallen trail]

meh

[sullen zephyr]

between +6 speed and mga at +0 speed, which one is faster?

[fallen trail]

1 cyrus sync and 3 serena syncs that all critted

[cloud timber]

goes back to sounding like 3/5 and role dependent

[scenic grotto]

It would be humourous if GuzzGio outclassed H Lillie in terms of best DC support to pair with Redlax (when the main sync nuker can set themselves up)

[vernal condor]

+6 speed I believe but dont quote me on that

Should be pretty close ngl

[pallid girder]

Chase but special only.

[vernal condor]

Yeah

All my good dark pairs are physical

[pallid girder]

When are we getting physical Chase? NC Bianca is the closest but still has her issue.

[cloud timber]

if bp barry outperforms non-3/5 ssag that's about what i'd expect, dunno about with role though

[long silo]

@sacred badger you were the one asking earlier right? Also obligatory @thin wren tag

[cloud timber]

not even certain 3/5 does better yet without his own zone and being ontype

[sacred badger]

Noice

[long silo]

Ngl this was fun, although admittedly won't be of use in upcoming Sparring. Dark 3v1 is sync only lmao

[fluid tendon]

Is there much value in taking chase higher than 1/5?

[pallid girder]

Circle extension.

[long silo]

^that and Adrenaline, both of which are 3/5

[zenith jolt]

Not Even exr

[long silo]

But functionally 1/5 is enough. Just needed Sprint EXR

[fluid tendon]

Hm

[misty forge]

I mean that's not very good unless both cerena and Gio aren't exr

[cloud timber]

i feel like chase has a lot of value at 3/5

[fluid tendon]

Do any of his clears depend on having circle extension?

[long silo]

the extension provides a lot of comfort especially on DC

[zenith jolt]

I mean just Gio isn’t exr but thanks

[cloud timber]

i use it currently mainly just to use circle to get up evasion a bit faster with less mpr reliance

but most builds i don't use it

[misty forge]

I guess you can push 1.8mil with that setup i feel

[zenith jolt]

Yeah maybe

[misty forge]

Because 1.5mil is pretty easy to achieve with most 3/5 exr cerena setups

Blue doesn't even need 3/5 here

[zenith jolt]

Might be better

[cloud timber]

what made the difference

[zenith jolt]

3.9m on this stage what they know we don’t ?

[zenith jolt]

Change some case on the Gio grid

[long silo]

Hmmm.

[cloud timber]

i see

[long silo]

How much did SC Zinnia did early on?

[cloud timber]

2.5m by the end of that rotation i believe

or roughly around there

[long silo]

I am not familiar with her kit, would she benefit better from Cerena or not necessarily?

[zenith jolt]

This grid work

[hidden junco]

Zinnia has one AoE Dark Rebuff

[long silo]

Ooh

[zenith jolt]

I don’t think zinnia could be Better than Serena

I don’t know tbf

[cloud timber]

oh yeah lot of time to make up gauge with redlax tm and serena buffing speed

[last stream]

is this without IF9?

[vagrant ivy]

how is SS2gio holding up

[vernal condor]

Not bad

[vagrant ivy]

spamming possible without infliction freebie?

[vernal condor]

If you can provide the gauge

I'll do it again to record

[long silo]

I'm curious about Steel 3v3. SS Lear theoretically can supply the gauge

Especially since he uses his B-Move anyway

[vernal condor]

Who are you replacing

[long silo]

Colress

[vernal condor]

Ig

[sacred flower]

yes, no IF9 but take the gauge accel on Gio TM

[last stream]

are you doing Red > Gio > Then Serena?

[cursive linden]

I've just remembered how suck this team in 3v1

Yeah, i'll kek SS2 Gio in the next reset

[cloud timber]

seun for last two syncs, if i played on min speed i coulda fit in a second dark pulse but i did most of the spam on mid speed

[vapid kernel]

How do u get seun? From dark void?

[true locust]

No

Any success move give you 20% for it

Tm void dark zone any move

[cloud timber]

and you won't be getting successful dark voids here so it's tm or dark zone

but you have multiple chances for each, even more than 4 total with dark zone mpr and enough dodges

[vapid kernel]

Fishing for Dark pulse ?

Easier to just use Red instead of NC Blue, u can get 2M with 3/5 Cyrus

[cloud timber]

well yeah but worse score, got a lot of easy 2ms already

but i'll still make sure it isn't better

[vapid kernel]

How many resets did it take u :0

[cloud timber]

22 minutes' worth attempting for that specifically which is not bad at all

not too far off

had to super prep fish bc ran out of redlax tms, got it on cyrus second tm

but second dark pulse was also seun boosted from super prep

extra 19k off that

earlier spdef debuffs could make up the difference

lmao ok then

[long silo]

So close!

[cloud timber]

-4 spdef for first sync and -6 for the rest

[long silo]

https://youtu.be/pxGEslpnFOw

[vapid kernel]

See nice

Do you hv the vid recorded?

Cus i dont want to record anymore if someone uploaded sth

[cloud timber]

yea

[vapid kernel]

Good

[cloud timber]

but i'm throwing in some attempts to see if i can push further before i get bored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhuDyUMEN0

i think i can go back to nc blue and push higher if i also farm for early seun

rng requirements are already getting ridiculous but ss cyrus is chill

[still hearth]

Can NC Marnie reach 1M?

Got her 3/5

Yeah no I don’t think so

[long silo]

What DC units you have

[still hearth]

Everyone except Wally, Marnie, and Barry

[long silo]

Errr sorry I meant the DC staple supports

[still hearth]

Ohhh

Uh

[long silo]

I feel it's possible, but I haven't got the time to experiment with AoE Specials

[still hearth]

EXR Lillie, BP Barry, Melony, Elio, Colress

And

Uhh

I think that’s all

[long silo]

I was able to make SC Barry and Akari reach 1m on their respective Single types, but that's because SC Steven gives them -6 Def, SEUN per sync, +8 PMUN for the final move

Might be better if you attempt to use B Move every cicle I assume no SS Cyrus because you'd use him otherwise

[still hearth]

Yeah

[long silo]

With Chase it might have been possible but

[still hearth]

I’ll pray I get him in the 15x pull in the select

[cloud timber]

alright this feels solid

seun for 1st 3rd and 4th syncs, needed two attempts each for last two but still good

spdef drops cooperated well enough too

[true locust]

Nc blue is better

But need alot rng for it😘

[cloud timber]

yeah at least 3 seuns

4 isn't too unrealistic, guessing you managed that

[forest forge]

is giovanni stockpile spammable

[dense scarab]

Yes

Just be aware all the passives activate too, but it's not a huge detriment

[forest forge]

so more or less viable compared to vespiquen

[cursive linden]

More like Oleana & Garbordor

because it is 2 gauge

[true locust]

Oleana is faster spam then gio

Plus can manage gauge whit tm

[forest forge]

sounds like skip to me

[dense scarab]

I wouldn't judge that based on DC performance alone, he's a pretty solid overall support

His biggest perk in DC giving guaranteed Sync Ups along with spam

[cloud timber]

yea dc isn't actually his strong point, he's an option compared to all the other spammers but isn't strong enough to outclass any if not using his field ex

or hasn't proven to be so far from what we've seen but we're still on dark

[vernal condor]

I think we still have to see how he performs in other types

[cloud timber]

yea yet to be proven either way

[vernal condor]

In Psychic with SS Steven he's gonna be insane

Literally almost a flat x2 since Steven got no grid mult (from x1.3 with super powered to x2.3)

The less mults the DPS has, the better Giovanni will be

[fluid anvil]

I actually think Gio will have more impressive results in DC than in other modes
and yeah he is nuts for SS Steven

[cloud timber]

he's already outshone his dc performance in lg during a dark rotation imo

don't see how it's getting better for him from here

if you're forcing that comparison at least

[vernal condor]

The problem with dark is the dark units

Serena has an awful setup, Zinnia isnt that strong and Cyrus doesnt benefit from him as much

[cloud timber]

and giacomo runs into cap quickly

[vernal condor]

Giacomo is a DPS guy anyway, not a sync one

[cloud timber]

yea

[fluid anvil]

LG? dead mode
i was only thinking UBs

[cloud timber]

yeah i'd be surprised if he was bad in ubs

and literally anywhere else

[fluid anvil]

Not bad, but he needs the other 2 pairs to basically set up/counter everything in UBs.
While in DC he is both the sync rush spammer (without needing status at all, so good for ranked stages) and the SyMUN buffer
Kinda feels more impactful in DC

[cloud timber]

he's not bad in dc but esp compared to people's initial expectations he definitely looks mid, still more potential for ontype stuff i guess and he is a top option for several dark options? maybe everything that isn't providing its own zone

[vernal condor]

He's top tier for super sparring that's for sure

[true locust]

Only if you can manage his gauge

[vernal condor]

It's literally free

[true locust]

Only 1 unit can do it is chase

Free never give you high score

[vernal condor]

No ? Lillie does it too

[true locust]

Lillie is spamer lol

You spam gio or lillie

2 in one team make no use

Chase can manage gio gauge only

[fluid anvil]

what is the top 4M current team ?
NC Serena + what?

or is it SS Cyrus who got 4M ?

[cloud timber]

with 9/5 and seun on everything he's capable of that yeah

did serena even surpass 3m

[vernal condor]

Best Ive seen is 2.8m

Her setup is too slow

[fluid anvil]

oh yeah SS Cyrus has 9/5 now, right
Its him then

[fallen trail]

am i better off benching serena for chase? even if chase is 2/5

[vernal condor]

Honestly probably

Serena isnt fun to use in dc

[cloud timber]

yea 4/5 cyrus is a solid damage dealer too

[dry whale]

They really need to get rid of that damage cap.

https://youtu.be/9Ss0JcHESmM?si=LRFuTbjrNhd149S5

[vernal condor]

Wait I can totally replicate this

With worse gears probably, but the score is impressive
And 2 B moves, wtf

[dry whale]

Just don't forget HS1 or Adrenaline on Red like I did .

[vernal condor]

I noticed Giovanni is 3/5 so no I cant replicate lol

[dry whale]

Well yeah , I was sitting on like 6 support candies so I just gave him 2.

[vernal condor]

Bruh

Me with 0

[dry whale]

It would have been less if these ARC suits used them. I was hoarding them for that purpose.

[vernal condor]

One day we'll have Multi candies trust (never)

[dry whale]

Wait , am I crazy or did my last sync not crit? The sound effect was weaker. Not that it matters it was still over the damage cap.

[vernal condor]

Yeah it didnt

The 2nd B Move isnt needed to hit the cap I think, but it's definitely needed for the gauge anyway

[vapid kernel]

Cool

[cloud timber]

keep forgetting to upload the recording, doing that now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6sYfsXk1Ds

[royal jolt]

Finally!

[cursive mauve]

Damn

[royal jolt]

Isn't this guy good for single dark?

[cloud timber]

i wouldn't think so but it depends on the rest of your dark roster and if you can afford to candy to 3/5

bc he can 1m

don't know where he peaks exactly

[long silo]

I got to:

1.1m with 5/5 Larry and Melony
1.3m with 5/5 Larry and 1/5 HoLillie
1.6m with NC Bianca and SSA Gio

[royal jolt]

Aw

Well, at least one good thing can come from tonight
I can EXR Holillie

[long silo]

I have one more comp I want to try with Archer, speaking of

[plush palm]

NEEDS cake to do any noticable dmg

[cloud timber]

that too

[plush palm]

w/o tech cake he hits like a wet noodle

[long silo]

Ayo

Ngl I want to repeat this because SSA Gio has no LS and I could have easily given him CS

[cloud timber]

do it

[long silo]

🫡

[cursive linden]

I didn't get the 3rd sync

I hate my life

[long silo]

I am done with this DC, for reals this time

[cloud timber]

nice

[royal jolt]

She's finally usable :)

[long silo]

I don't remember who the Archer/Rocket fans are so I can't tag them

[vapid kernel]

Alright stopping

[cursive linden]

Let's gooooo

[royal jolt]

Hm
Does Holillie boost Serena's score?
I might whip her out

[cursive linden]

One small problem

How do you get NC Serena's Atk to max?

[royal jolt]

Happy new year, yall!

[royal jolt]

Good question

[cursive linden]

If you're thinking about TM MPR twice....

[royal jolt]

I'd be dropping way too much

Damn
So much for that idea

[vapid kernel]

Not impossible :]

[royal jolt]

I could drop one of the sync power-ups

[cloud timber]

yea it's way cleaner to just run elio and you don't have to give up any sync tile and you don't have to reset for mpr

if you haven't tried redlax/elio already

[royal jolt]

I have ^^
I just wanna use Lillie
I spent all this time wanting her EXR. And, now that I have her, it's during the one DC I can't use her 😭

[cloud timber]

she's not good for every single dc frankly

far from the only case

always usable but not necessarily better than other options particularly when elio's buffs are important

[late owl]

Does alt giovanni need 3/5 to be usable for stockpile spam ?

[cloud timber]

not strictly, no

[late owl]

The thing is i'm planning to candy him to 3/5 is it worth for maybe future super sparring event

[cloud timber]

he can be very good in dark rotations or under the no status condition parameter

i think he gets a lot more value outside of dc where his tanking actually matters so he's usable everywhere

[late owl]

Ah alright then

[pallid girder]

Top 1 reached 4M. 10/5 Giocomo most likely

[cloud timber]

9/5 ss cyrus can do it, giacomo runs into damage cap and has to rely on sync damage to do more than the 2m he gets off b moves

and yeah there's been zero sign of role-less alt giovanni beating the overhyped allegations as far as i've seen

top tier tank still

[true locust]

Gio if lg would be still exist would be nice for this event yes

But lg is gone . So for dc he is decent. Good for dark its all

Oleana is still way better

Gio will shine in triple dc more then 3 vs 1 dark

Nc marnie and giacomo will be get alot from his support

[long silo]

https://youtu.be/D9bUYn4z-ss

[vapid kernel]

So Mix Lucas can 2M on Ground 3v3

[cunning rock]

Mix Lucas is probably our best ST Ground unit too

Outside of invested Arc Cynthia ofc

[cosmic wing]

Oh yeah, has anyone did a damage calculation between SA SS Gio (the Nidoking one) and Mix Lucas?

[timid tree]

glorious archer gaming! i will be trying to replicate this! 💙

[long silo]

Best of luck!

[safe prawn]

10/5 SSCyrus

[pallid girder]

Yeah I heard that. Sadly Gio Gio team (Giovanni + Giocomo) doesn't work.

[unborn vault]

Is Gio busted in dc?

[cloud timber]

no, but usable in niche cases (dark zone and spamming through no status param if you don't have exr oleana or something)

[long silo]

It has come to my attention that Fighting 3v3 is this month

[cloud timber]

i think i'll need to do a bunch of pure repeats of old teams i used which i've managed to avoid a bunch up to this point

until ice triple where i can use nc red for the first time in this mode

[long silo]

I now have 10/5 Rei to try again for Fighting 3v3, but at the same time I also remember the unholy amount of RNG I attempted the last time it was here

Although I think I might be able to manage something with SSA Gio with him

[true locust]

Rei if no better unit came will be top

But gio ? Hmm too slow you want use zone

[long silo]

I'm resetting for Rei's TM MPR every sync cycle, so that might mean I won't need CI

Plus Spd buff from Bianca

[true locust]

If use free move he slow run no free move no gauge

Bainca yes whit rei and corless

Since this team is good one

[long silo]

I also thought that one yes

Or I get back to the Blue/Rosa that tortured me last time

[true locust]

Yes this team good too

[vapid kernel]

Nah he cannot 1M

[long silo]

NC Blue/Rosa was...something

Three TM MPR from Lucas + Rolling the +Atk buff from Rosa

...did I just type Lucas instead of Rei

[misty forge]

He probably can

But he's not remotely competing with shillthia

[copper otter]

UB Gio would be great for dark teams, but overall, he's pretty slow to spam (similar to colress). Nice to have for teams that want to ramp up their sync tho.

Definitely a nice option for Ranked DC tho

[vernal condor]

Rn it's really hard to predict how good exactly he is

[copper otter]

Main problem i'm seeing rn is that he needs 3/5 to even have use for DC

[vapid kernel]

But hes doing like 2M on 3v3

So hes probably max 800K on ST

[vapid kernel]

Gonna get powercrept easily

Hes a good unit in other places

That infinite Take Hit All so good

[misty forge]

Idk, I don't think so, more like 950-1.05mil

[vapid kernel]

Show me the calcs

[misty forge]

I mean why bother

We'll see when the stage actually comes

[vapid kernel]

The one with the numbers is more correct

[misty forge]

I don't see a reason to jerk off to planned numbers until we actually have the stage

[fluid anvil]

what team does that top 1, 4M with SS Cyrus use ?
I assume it doesnt use new Gio?
is it SS Cyrus + Chase + .. ?

[true locust]

Nc blue?

[vagrant ivy]

CS1 lol

[cursive linden]

And that's with Melony

Not Hol. Lillie

That would be 1.3M

[normal parcel]

Know I can get more with redlax and Serena's flinches (speed debuffs)

[cursive linden]

Wouldn't it make sense to spam with SS2 Gio?

[normal parcel]

Or does the Redlax team not use infliction freebie on Giovanni?

[cursive linden]

You want that SyMUN

[normal parcel]

Yes I still use 5 stockpiles per sync cycle

[cursive linden]

If that's the case, try to use a Supp/Sprint unit

[vagrant ivy]

honestly given the results he's had on his type i don't see ss2 gio beating sing spam unless the ranked DC parameter bans it

for offtype

[cursive linden]

He is not beating sing spam i tell you that

[normal parcel]

Maybe I could try to see if I can remove infliction freebie from gio

[cursive linden]

But holy shit his SyMUN spam is good

[normal parcel]

Maybe in SS Steven team, those sync move up ranks are very useful for him

[cursive linden]

If you want to not use infliction freebie 9 then you gotta use NC Serena's Dark Zone acceleration grid

[normal parcel]

Yes probably I should

[vernal condor]

What's the point of using Barry here

[sacred badger]

https://x.com/EEVEEmath/status/1874260236540010736 nice team xD

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[zenith jolt]

Exr Gio makes the diff

[vernal condor]

Well yeah

[normal parcel]

Did the mistake of using the last seun for Giovanni's b move instead of Serena's last sync

Didn't knew how close to damage cap was last sync

[normal parcel]

Fixed the error

However you need few misses and red MPR

If damage cap wasn't a thing she would have scored much more

[vernal condor]

Send feedback to remove the cap

[vagrant ivy]

what do the calcs say

i assume you do 1m per sync?

[vernal condor]

999,999

[vagrant ivy]

all of a sudden 999,999 is feeling a bit low

yeah

[vernal condor]

Tfw it's more HP that what the Anabel UB has

[crude sandal]

Cerena scores this much with a circle unit

[vagrant ivy]

well you will get alot of damage when you can focus purely on ramping stats and not needing to account for their attacks

[true locust]

Dena prob was not expect this things when make this mode. Only this mode would need this cap and only on some certain stage or last syncs

And also not all players in game hit 999k any way so not sure they will make any changes

[normal parcel]

I guess stuffs like arc lance, ash, jacq would appreciate the cap removal

[vernal condor]

Giacomo

[vagrant ivy]

arc leon too

[vernal condor]

Gladion

[true locust]

All top units can hit 999k if have good set up

Or b move or sync

[vagrant ivy]

there's honestly very few units that can hit 999k even after 5th anni

and even if they do how much will they really exceed it by

probs only by a hundred thousand or two

[crude sandal]

Also SS Gladion

[normal parcel]

What's best dark team RN?

Cerena + Gio or there's something better?

[vagrant ivy]

sheesh what is this censorship

half of the clears just gone

[fluid anvil]

9/5 SS Cyrus is the one that hits 4M in 3v1

[warped gulch]

Mael just busy i think

[normal parcel]

That's why I was rank 9, I guess there are less than 9 whales with 9/5+ SS Cyrus

[true locust]

We don’t now top teams. Can be or not. If some post score then we can be sure. And you can use gio and cyrus if cyrus no exr is good idea for team. So maybe gio in team

[normal parcel]

Stockpile spam is still better than dark void

[restive galleon]

Good team?

[vagrant ivy]

seems decent enough but relying on confusion for multipliers can drain time

[vernal condor]

You will probably struggle with gauge

[cursive linden]

I was gonna say the Chase/Hol. Lillie combo but.....

[restive galleon]

Hmm

Then elio over melony?

[vapid kernel]

Well in many cases you actually have to decide whether or not to pull a unit before the stage comes but anyways

Argument closed

[vapid kernel]

Nais

[misty forge]

I don't pull for content

So I can't relate

[unborn vault]

Who's better between Sidney and Lear and other f2ps?

[fallen trail]

you mean lodge lear?

i imagine he’s better than sidney

confusion eats a lot of time

and sidney has mega sync penalty

his innate rising tide could take a while to set up though

[unborn vault]

Yes sorry

[unborn vault]

Gio can make it infinitely easier tho

[misty forge]

Iirc he's better as DPS spam

Because of no ceiling on power trip

[fallen trail]

power trip is strong yeah

[unborn vault]

1 stockpile and trainer move and you're over 18 buffs am I right

[unborn vault]

Wait fr?

[misty forge]

Yea

[unborn vault]

I thought it capped at 18 too

Like rising tide

[fallen trail]

i thought stored power and power trip capped

[misty forge]

That's multipliers

[unborn vault]

Yea!

Oh my

[misty forge]

Iirc power trip doesn't cap

[unborn vault]

So if I play Lear lodge I should dps spam over stockpile spam?

Or a mix of both perhaps

[misty forge]

Mhhh

Depends really

[unborn vault]

I think it's still move convenient to just spam syncs

[misty forge]

No idea who your third is

[fluid anvil]

how do you set up SS Cyrus's PowerPlay for this DC ? Just realized I have him at 3/5 for some reason
-18 is a lot of debuffs
Dont have NC Serena, is it possible do it fast without her?

just spam his own Dark Void?

[vernal condor]

yes

Even if on your 1st sync the opponent isn't at -18 it's fine since it should be pretty close to that, and on the following you're pretty much guaranteed to max it

[fluid anvil]

Hmm. And if you are spamming Dark Void - then Super Preparation 1 kinda makes it so you will always have SEUN for every sync ?
unless very bad rng
so no need for Redlax?

oh wait, it doesnt work

" when its move is successful."

[vernal condor]

yeah people are literally fishing for 20% on dark pulse lol

i would just run red and call it a day

[fluid anvil]

I'm not doing that lol
since Cyrus is doing the spam, you dont need Lillie then?
so would Chase + Redlax + Cyrus work ok?

[vernal condor]

yes

[unborn vault]

No idea either? I was considering Larry

[vagrant ivy]

insanity

i thought 50% from dahlia was alot

[crude sandal]

Totally not Gloria MPR fishing levels of RNG

[fallen trail]

redlax or nc blue dunno which is better

[normal parcel]

Only on the main series, here caps at 18

[warped gulch]

[vernal condor]

not even ex

[warped gulch]

where ?

[vernal condor]

I have 50 of them

also monthly reset means in rally shop

[warped gulch]

But i just use it for Gio

[vernal condor]

the greedy man

[misty forge]

Oh fug I forgor

Thanks

[warped gulch]

Yeah the team is Bianca + Gio

So yeah, yet Calem out of the window

[misty forge]

Gonna think about what feathers to get with the leftovers

[unborn vault]

What's the comp?

I'm considering just some speed control

[misty forge]

[plush palm]

geeta cant even use it oof

[warped gulch]

NC Bianca + SSA Gio

[unborn vault]

Ouch I lack nc bia

[fallen trail]

redlax vs nc blue… close but redlax seems a bit better

though maybe i just had better debuff luck

who knows

[fluid anvil]

Eh, good enough

[fallen trail]

😭tf am i doing wrong

is this just dodge everything luck

[fluid anvil]

I have high % sync dmg DC gear for Sinnoh. WIthout it would probably be ~your score

[fallen trail]

oh skill gear

i havent gone extreme w it yet

[misty forge]

[misty forge]

Hmu when we get a new dragon zoner, but hey, it's usable ig

[thick stump]

nate moment

[misty forge]

Definitely

[true locust]

Nc blue better but need more rng:) since fish for cyrus super . Lax is less rng need

But tm slow run down

[fallen trail]

oh yeah

i wasnt messing w that lol

[sacred badger]

Whose syncing? Redlax -> SsGio > nc serena?

[cloud timber]

nc blue needs 3+/4 seuns to beat redlax so we know what the sane option is

good thing i'm not sane

and yeah nc blue/chase/ss cyrus 9/5 has 4m potential, no other team or damage dealer i can think of that can come close

even with perfect everything

if serena and giacomo didn't run into damage cap they'd compete

maybe

this was with only +12% but with +95 spa

[fluid anvil]

the current top 1 is almost 5M

[cloud timber]

early spdef debuffs and god gear can do stuff

one day i'll get a lot closer but not today

[vernal condor]

detective and phantom thieve team up lol

[upper radish]

is serena really the highest damage dealer in this single stage

anything above 3.5m has to be another pair right...

[pallid girder]

We assume it's 9/5 SS Cyrus solo dd.

NC Serena is the 2nd.

[upper radish]

ooo that makes sense

only think of him as a umm dark void spammer

[kindred summit]

This is with EXR Gio I assume

[zenith jolt]

Exactly, the 3 are exr, pray for crit and it should go for 800k -> 999k -> 999k on the 3 Serena syncs

[sacred badger]

Wait serena can hit 3 syncs?

Hrm. Im having trouble gettin up to nc serenas 2nd sync

780k for serenas first sync though

[icy pendant]

hm if I'm using Elio I may as well just use SSA Giovanni right

[cloud timber]

for dark as a whole ssag is the best spammer if you don't already have zone on your damage dealer, elsewhere we still have yet to see

[icy pendant]

I have +30% sync gear on Cerena so I assume she's my best option

[cloud timber]

yeah she's the ideal option without going into superawakened territory

[icy pendant]

and none of my gear applies to Zinnia so that's not even a question

[cloud timber]

which is basically just ss cyrus, don't think 10/5 giacomo competes with serena still

[icy pendant]

my cyrus is 2/5 so yeah he's not doing much

welp time to break out the support candy for gio I suppose

[cloud timber]

he does compress power play setting and spam and dark zone but i think i've seen people do better with ssag anyway

ssag/redlax appearing to be the ideal team for serena

[long silo]

Do we know the team of the 4m

I read people say SS Cyrus but we don't know the actual teammates right

[cloud timber]

with nc blue and chase

[long silo]

Oh I see

[cloud timber]

nearly 5m now but god rng/gear can push

[long silo]

Why is SSAG not the ideal teammate

[cloud timber]

cyrus already spams and has dark zone

[icy pendant]

cyrus already covers zone and spam

aka gio's only two uses

[long silo]

I see. So SyMUN doesn't do that much compared to other options I assume

[cloud timber]

yea

[long silo]

I see

[cloud timber]

symun is additive so its value diminishes when you're stacking sync multipliers

which you're almost always doing in this mode

like on lucas specifically +10 is +34%

long way down from what seems like 100% on the surface

[long silo]

Oh I see

[cloud timber]

symun addition is also tied to its own passive which has similar delay to charging infliction but people have managed to make the gauge work without infliction freebie

still slower than bp barry bc you have to do all the things to provide gauge which take time even if you skip infliction freebie

and no para setting is a notable drawback esp for people with stacked gear

redlax is at least one of his ideal teammates so he can set para if necessary but it's +1 animation

[long silo]

Yeah I don't really have that much issue due to having no OP gears like that

Or at least low bonus

[cloud timber]

yeah most people won't but even without it the chance for para procs and the slowdown do make some difference

[long silo]

Also do you know the teamcomp that managed to have no CI3

[cloud timber]

well gio's gauge passive is IF9, i think bianca managed some success

[long silo]

I'm entertaining the idea of using SSAG for AS Steven + SS Lear on Sparring because Lear can give him the gauge

Hmmm I did use Bianca but I did not remove 🤔

Also sorry what is IF9

[cloud timber]

infliction freebie 9

[icy pendant]

oh I hit damage cap with cerena, I wonder if my para gear is even needed

[long silo]

Oh wait I was calling it Charging Infliction 9 lol

[icy pendant]

only got 2 syncs on blind IF strats so maybe I need to lab out IF-less a bit more

[cloud timber]

she should hit damage cap on last two syncs but first sync still matters

ideal run is apparently 3 serena syncs

[icy pendant]

it was 875k/1m/presumably 1m third if I get there but I had no time

[cloud timber]

charging infliction number restores gauge, same amount of bars as in the number so bp barry's is charging infliction 2

batman posted a video on that

the serena team

[icy pendant]

yeah I'll watch tomorrow probably, too late for me now

either way still beat my old zinnia score by 800k lol

[cloud timber]

nice

[long silo]

I'm just glad to just double Archer's score lmao

I'm on Cerena waiting room still

[icy pendant]

like there is a reason I never uploaded this video, but still

[crude sandal]

BTW, how does SS Hilda's superawakening fare against 5/5 Anni N?

[cosmic wing]

Well.... Anni N 5/5 kinda sucks so SS Hilda doesn't even need SA to outperform him

[crude sandal]

Well, he still has his EXR

[cosmic wing]

The EXR is a big buff, but you are still looking at Anni N

[cursive linden]

I feel like Anni N 3/5 EXR can outnuke SS Hilda 5/5 EXR due to him not needing burn

[cloud timber]

also he can handle his own spam

hilda 10/5 won't change a lot, +50 sync bp at 8/5 and idk if 10/5 passives matter in dc

hers specifically

[pallid girder]

Best Hilda team also didn't use evasion iirc, so anni N can use Chase is huge.

[cloud timber]

but hilda should be better everywhere else anyway regardless of anything

[crude sandal]

Defensive stat drops upon hit and sun upon sync, and you can bring in NC Leaf without potentially ever needing to use her B Move

You can alternate between Hilda and Leaf for maximum stat dropping

How long is Drought Alert 3 again?

[cloud timber]

yeah i've used neither so i'm unsure to what extent that 10/5 and nc leaf are overlapping

30 seconds on top of 50 base, 80 total

[crude sandal]

160 seconds, which is completely overkill

Because DC is 3 minutes, which is obviously 180 seconds

And you can use H. Lillie to max out Rising Tide for Hilda, do spam and have sprint/support EX

[royal jolt]

How effective is Alt. Selene for triple rock?

[crude sandal]

Well, Selene can do poison, which enables H. Lillie too

And you can have triple circle boost with 2x circle with Elio and Selene

[pallid girder]

She should be top 1 at 9/5.
I want to say 5/5 but last time somehow she didn't did better than NC Silver, prob bc most ppl just don't have her.

[normal parcel]

Why 9/5, the second bad break 9 adds extra time?

[cloud timber]

should

[pallid girder]

I mean 9/5 is just the safest guess coz it's pure stat/bp buff.

[normal parcel]

But is 10/5 actually worse? I know best case scenario adds nothing besides maybe better chance at speed/spdef debuffs

[cloud timber]

for 10/5 to not be worse they'd have to go out of their way to make a version of bad break 9 that doesn't consume time instead of copy and paste and not care about dc things

like they already have

no chance of reverting it if you do use 10/5 and who even already has 10/5 to test

9/5 is safe and very strong

[royal jolt]

Welcome to the team, my beloved 🥹

[sacred badger]

2 candies and el cake

[pseudo stag]

Is Guzzvanni good for DC?

[true locust]

For dark dc he is nice . But for others dc not the best choise

We can say nc blue melony teams even have gauge issue use free move cost you time. 2 gauge spamer is need good gauge sup. His use is limited outside dark dc and you cant cake him for others. But no caked he is not good for dark dc then. Kinda strange unit .

[cloud timber]

if you can time his sync after 1:40 it means you won't have zone fadeout animation and exr becomes costless

offtype

still has the potential to hinder things but +40 speed is quite useful if you can manage to avoid infilction freebie

from field cake

[upper radish]

meow

so excited for electric

especially with giovanni now

[vast glade]

So... I got Giacomo in the select scout. Is he viable 1/5 in this mode?

Also, for some crazy luck the tech pool made my SS Roxie 3/5. Is she good for tech poison or is Oleanna still better?

[crude sandal]

SS Roxie is best in poison 3v3, Oleana for poison 3v1

[upper radish]

oh random but is rising tide the same as power play, but in reverse?

[vast glade]

Better than Geeta? Got both 3/5 now

[crude sandal]

Geeta is striker EXR with base field, Roxie is base tech with striker EXR and she sets her own poison zone too

OFC tech/strike is better

[long silo]

But ignoring that, Geeta's poison mult eats up A LOT of time

[vast glade]

Thanks

[long silo]

So she is strictly worse on DC. Outside that I don't know

[crude sandal]

Also SS Roxie can paralyze with her max move

Preventing time wastage with poison DoT

[vast glade]

One more question, is 1/5 Giacomo viable in this current rotation? Curious if he can do more than NC Serena did lol

[crude sandal]

Definitely not

[vapid kernel]

Nice

[vast glade]

Thanks. I will save investing on him for the future then

[misty forge]

Geeta has very meh sync like most fields

But her DPS is strong enough to hit 1mil easily

But Roxie is a whole other beast

Roxie is likely top 3 pokefairs overall

1/5 is already decent
3/5 is absurdly strong
5/5 is still really crazy
10/5 is insane