#Damage Challenge

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lusty galleon
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yup

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all Grim go along his character

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but making it "safe" is odd haha

royal jolt
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Yeahhh

pallid girder
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I thought it's +6 eva but it's only +3. Sad.

royal jolt
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I mean, from a mechanic standpoint, I get it

lusty galleon
cloud timber
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it's a good expansion for every purpose that isn't dc

lusty galleon
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~~someone do the regirock solo MinaBreak ~~

cloud timber
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for dc idr if there's any better side expansion than ss grimsley besides morty and kris

pallid girder
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Guzma

warped gulch
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Guzma the goat, save bug type not ST tho

lusty galleon
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Lance side expansion

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~~but no accessible MinaSmile ~~

cloud timber
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yet still its best hope for f2p

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guzma

lusty galleon
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tbh, Karen, Blue lol

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Elesa?

warped gulch
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Yeah Elesa too

lusty galleon
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many strikes did get good expansions lol

warped gulch
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Karen isn’t that good in DC ~~mega tax ~~

lusty galleon
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can she reach 1M?

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problem is the SPF

warped gulch
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With f2p ? Not even close

pallid girder
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No record. The issue is more about her sync requirement.

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-6 spatk & full gauge.

lusty galleon
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yeah, she needs to use 3 snarls

warped gulch
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And mega tax

cloud timber
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i did get 1m with base cynthia pre-exr, sand blaster 5 and haymaker on side expansion to allow her to do anything

lusty galleon
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~~grim has mega tax too MinaSmile ~~

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but SPF.... really hurts

warped gulch
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SPF = lock her with Barry

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No Melony

lusty galleon
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yup... that doesn't ensure many syncs...

royal jolt
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How does Ethan do on triple fire?

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Brainpower
Evasion, even if it's little
Maybe the possibility of sun

lusty galleon
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he has only 1 multiplier but has evasion

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similar to Silver in that aspect lol

pallid girder
lusty galleon
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but Silver hits harder (yet you need the unlock)

lusty galleon
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doubt as it is time-locked

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that reminds me, maybe should've tried full damage Ethan on ST RosaThink

cloud timber
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side expansion is side expansion

royal jolt
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Eruption BP when you take .01 HP of damage

cloud timber
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though not many of them were actually released during dc itself

lusty galleon
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so sad tbh

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and then you remind mael that there's no "use normal moves" DC where Palmer would've been an absolute beast

royal jolt
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Palmer looks so funny
I really want him

lusty galleon
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me too...

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I may finally pick him up in the selects

pallid girder
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Hope SS Elesa get sth that let her workable in dc again.

lusty galleon
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she... can para MinaSmile

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just that, for now lol

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and sync accel, of course

royal jolt
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I've got my eyes set on Dexio for tech. For support, I'm still kinda deciding

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For strike, I'm stuck between Giacomo or Alt. Selene

lusty galleon
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I don't "care" about Dexio...

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but if I rolled, I'd get Leon

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and from Strike is hard... I want Selene or Palmer for now...

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DCwise...

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I dunno which I'd get lol

warped gulch
royal jolt
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SS Elesa was meta?

lusty galleon
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for f2p

cloud timber
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yep at the very beginning

lusty galleon
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you'd have to fish for her MPR

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which is quite "broken" lol

royal jolt
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Damn
Must've missed that

lusty galleon
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if you've sync beforehand, she reduces the CD -2 extra

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so she "skips" 1 rotation

royal jolt
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Yeah

lusty galleon
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but... 1 use with 40% MPR

warped gulch
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Yeah….. rather stick with Melony

lusty galleon
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plus her look alive triggering everytime she got hit

warped gulch
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Also you need a lot of dodge from her too

royal jolt
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The first meta I ever knew of was colress

lusty galleon
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fun that he is still usable as you can just skip the freebie MinaSmile

royal jolt
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Yeah

warped gulch
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Remember we thought pairs like SS Ethan or SS Lusa will be meta for DC

royal jolt
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We can manage that these days

warped gulch
lusty galleon
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SS Lusa was at the time tbh

royal jolt
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She just kinda sucks for nuking

lusty galleon
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now there's just other options lol

royal jolt
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I got more out of her DPS than her actual sync

lusty galleon
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no EX R Tech/Strike Psychics

warped gulch
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Yeah, Lear didn’t have it yet

lusty galleon
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and Steven not having multipliers in grid...

royal jolt
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SS Steven made me proud on the run-back

warped gulch
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And when he got it, bye Lusa

lusty galleon
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yup, once actual strike/tech combo appear, she got discarded lol

royal jolt
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My first team was NC Rosa, SS Lusa, and SS Lana

lusty galleon
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I don't have Lana, so I used Whitney

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H one, that is

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and it actually worked as she lowered Sp. Def AoE while I turn negated with Rosa's Sing

plush palm
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i hit 1m w/ lenora / lana / ss steven

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it sucked but still

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it wirked somehow

lusty galleon
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the SS Lusa/H Whitney/NC Rosa team at the time... got me 1.9M

royal jolt
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My first run was just blasting

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No fancy strat

plush palm
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Badically

royal jolt
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And I got a better score than when I tried it again on reset lmao

lusty galleon
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tbh, I have more fun just damage dealing than sync spamming MinaSmile

plush palm
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we all kinda sucked back then

warped gulch
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Tbf that our first DC

royal jolt
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Yeah

warped gulch
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I know only Lg player knew about Colress TW spamming back then

royal jolt
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After that, I kinda started getting into the strategy

pallid girder
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I used SSSteven first & second.
Funny that SSS was considered worse than SSL the first time but better second time even tho no update on these 2 pairs.

royal jolt
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And then I joined here

plush palm
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kris is good enough i guess

warped gulch
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She is better

plush palm
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Is she still

warped gulch
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Bc way lower rng

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What do you choose? 1M water or 1M water but with sure crit

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Also no evasion needed

plush palm
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i got 1m the first time w/ her and colress

pallid girder
plush palm
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gladion buff next month please

royal jolt
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Granted
Fast Track 9

pallid girder
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If Gladion could hit ~400k in every st after pb he's alr better than a lot of f2p real tech on type (especially bug & fairy)

civic island
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Grims suffer too much from mega penalty

royal jolt
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Give him tech EXR
And an OP awakening
Give him the Diantha treatment

hard sleet
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Who are we talking about

civic island
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double down 9 custom ls

warped gulch
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A Spotlight

plush palm
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old genpool probably aint raking in enough $$$

royal jolt
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SS Grimsley

lusty galleon
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I think someone mentioned Gladion

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then it got mixed up with grim

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lol

warped gulch
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~~Which will never happen ~~

hard sleet
royal jolt
hard sleet
plush palm
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wouldnt mind them bringing out genpool SA

royal jolt
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They should

hard sleet
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I recall that mini moment where gladion was good because of some zone setter

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And was actually viable

plush palm
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if only bc theres gotta be some smuck willing to drop 5 SA candy on olympia or smth

royal jolt
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I have 80-something 3☆ candies

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They don't even give us those anymore

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Like look at my bag

hard sleet
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Giving gladion DD9 and SDE9 would be nice the +40 atk tile would be doing a lot

lusty galleon
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superduper effective

warped gulch
hard sleet
warped gulch
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Pls

civic island
hard sleet
lusty galleon
pallid girder
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Gladion pb: SuperPowered 9, Haymaker, TM +3 crit, Entry +2 atk
Also give him custom ls SuperPowered 4 again

royal jolt
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Give him the Kris free tiles

pallid girder
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Perfect.

lusty galleon
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and then, introduce Fierce Entry x2
(keypoint: the x)

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and give it to him

hard sleet
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Peak

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Wait doesn’t that scale absurdly with skill gear

royal jolt
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Give him Superduper 9

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Since he's always on-type

lusty galleon
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the x means... "the attack stat is multiplied by x on combat"

hard sleet
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lel

plush palm
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honesly it doesnt hurt them at all to make genpool sa

warped gulch
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Give him SP9, Critical Crit and Superduper 9

hard sleet
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All I want is all gen pools to get exrs

lusty galleon
plush palm
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theres always some dude whos favorite unit is eysine or smth

hard sleet
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Me!

lusty galleon
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yet they don't give mass EX R...

civic island
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SE next KarenDAB

plush palm
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Wouldnt be suprised if theres people who really like olympia

hard sleet
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She was decent for a good bit

plush palm
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i know malva has fans

royal jolt
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I'm a fan of her kit

hard sleet
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You’re just naming Kalos fans

royal jolt
pallid girder
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I mean if they don't bother to give past seasonal exr, I doubt they'll do anything to past genpool.

plush palm
hard sleet
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Dena cares way less about seasonals then they do about Gen pools

warped gulch
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What about kalos rival ?

royal jolt
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I really wish I had Malva

hard sleet
plush palm
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i dont have her either

royal jolt
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I wish she had Flare Blitz and Brave Bird with Recoil Removal 9

warped gulch
hard sleet
warped gulch
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I dont even remember his name

royal jolt
hard sleet
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Can’t wait for all old gen pools sipports to get tech exr

warped gulch
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Dawn

plush palm
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i will take it

hard sleet
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Would make her have more Lg solos maybe

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Since it buffs spd and defenses

plush palm
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jasmine post expansion could use anything

warped gulch
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I think tech is fine bc Striker is way worse for them lol

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Peak Leaf + Striker

royal jolt
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I'm also a huge fan of Dawn's nuke

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It's so funny

hard sleet
plush palm
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Give hop tech exr

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weirdly enough he can hit decently hard

pallid girder
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Dawn, Lyra, Jasmine. Do I miss any genpool 5* support with innate?

warped gulch
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Hop dmg is nice

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I remember using him solo CS

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The dmg is so good with SEUN and after enemy Sync

hard sleet
plush palm
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falkner has inertia for some reason

hard sleet
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Those are like big 4

hard sleet
warped gulch
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Misty

pallid girder
warped gulch
plush palm
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tbf it might as well be innate if youre going for synchro healing

warped gulch
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Still waiting her EX

hard sleet
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Cheren my goat

hard sleet
fallen trail
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letting cheren get statused for outrun 4 and crazy fast gauge always my fav strat

hard sleet
fallen trail
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it also makes his sync stronger!!

hard sleet
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Should’ve given him lessen status whatever 9 on grid

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That’s why his grid is bad

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No other reason

plush palm
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marley has innatw for some reason

hard sleet
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Oh right she had inertia

pallid girder
hard sleet
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I miss when supports got inmates

plush palm
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marlon

cloud timber
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inmates

warped gulch
hard sleet
cloud timber
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xd

pallid girder
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Gimmick but will be fun, better that the worthless "general use but you'll want to use Skyla anyway" grid we really got.

fallen trail
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i thought ss blue would get strike exr since he had innate

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guess i should be glad he didnt… would be funny for this dc stage though

warped gulch
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I legit forgot this is DC chat

hard sleet
hard sleet
royal jolt
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Lol

fallen trail
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ss blue strike exr woulda carried water 3v3… just sayin

pallid girder
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Back to DC I actually have a question, next is dark st and last time we believed NC Serena was the best tho not really a dark type.
Will it change this time?

warped gulch
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Idk tbh, NC Serena-SC Zinnia

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DC Cheren ?

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How much NC Serena got last time ?

pallid girder
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SS Cyrus spams himself with 2 dmg booster?

plush palm
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brycen man exists? is he even good

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idk

cloud timber
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does giacomo give any competition

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i'll be running ss cyrus

warped gulch
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I want to try Giacomo yeah

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His B Move’ll still hit like a truck

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Bc no split dmg

pallid girder
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In 3v1 I don't think Giacomo will be the best.

civic island
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Yeah then Giacomo arrived

warped gulch
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Also that make me remember how bad V Selene is

civic island
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Damn true

warped gulch
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Just bc Dark Zone takes too much time

cloud timber
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5/5 ssag will be perfect giacomo enabler for b moves besides not having rebuff, zone and maxes symun/pmun

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and has spam

pallid girder
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Don't forget that new drip Gio will debut exactly the day dark st drop.

plush palm
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my best options are still nc serena and ss xyrus

warped gulch
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Me who dont care about Gio bc 3 Paldea this month

civic island
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Is gio even relevant tbh?

warped gulch
cloud timber
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i'll run a few pulls on gio but not more than that and he won't help cyrus

warped gulch
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Like Def Order and Comic Power

pallid girder
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Not exactly the reset tho. 9 hour after reset.
New drip Gio debut 00:00 Jan 1 in JPT.

civic island
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Oh! Need to check him
Pomatool isn't working for me for some reasion LarryDead

cloud timber
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if you use him for dc spam you would want infliction freebie, 331 is an awful speed stat to go off of otherwise even with chase

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janine has 363 and still runs out, dc blue gets 434

civic island
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Janine got prep rally tho

vagrant ivy
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DC blue would run out without circle: mg+2

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and MGA at the same time

civic island
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Still not enough for her to keep up
That ncSerena ssKris Janine team was scavenging for gauge

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With the rain boost and gauge accel

cloud timber
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yeah janine seems like she should work but not good enough last i checked

vagrant ivy
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got burnt but didn’t matter

vagrant ivy
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nvm dc blue is still a fraud

cloud timber
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yeah ss misty's speed does look a bit subpar

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plus uhhh shouldn't you be using like elio for sync power flux or is it worth just waiting with melony or w/e

pallid girder
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Yeah Elio would be more ideal for sync power flux pair.

lone pond
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how exactly should i use vietnam lillie

cloud timber
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holiday lillie? (if you're not using nc blue or chase for more efficient speed buffs) you just use a few successful sings or moonblasts to buff speed to +4 and save tm for gauge for later and that'll get you to +6, sometimes you won't even need that much

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and you can use basically any other status setter to set status for sing spam, usually stuff like nc blue/chase/redlax are good picks but there's tons of other potential options

vagrant ivy
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need to circle twice for maximum effect

upbeat bluff
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question, how good is SS Grimsley in the water Damage Challenge?

rain copper
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worse than Kris for sure

vapid kernel
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Lyra gj

vapid kernel
upbeat bluff
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He is. Just trying to ifgure out partners and such (since Esuine and LySSandre are too low sync level to use)

misty forge
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Kris better

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Iirc

warped gulch
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Both can 1M but

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  • 1M with Crit and dodge rng
  • 1M without Rng
misty forge
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Oh yeah theyre now sameish

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After pb

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3.1 on kris vs 3.2 grims

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Difference is kris has no rng

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Because crit next after sync

plush palm
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fun

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do you jus run tm mpr

misty forge
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On who

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Kris has build up on grid

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That + tm before First Sync = all syncs crit

warped gulch
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Kris has sure crit on Tm and can grid Build Up

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And you’ll use her Tm anyway to buff Speed

pseudo stag
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how much support does kris need to hit 1m anyways?

warped gulch
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BP Barry + Rain setter is all you need

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Good stats gears too (70-100 Atk)

pseudo stag
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no gears 😔

warped gulch
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Ofc you can try other premium support

pseudo stag
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how important is rain

misty forge
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Or SEUN

royal jolt
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it's a very big "if," though

misty forge
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With best rng on both
He does slightly more

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Meanwhile kris wins in 99.9% of scenarios

royal jolt
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yeah, because of Build Up

vernal condor
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Probably wont be updating the doc much in the following days

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I wont be on my pc a lot, if at all

royal jolt
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busy with end-of-year plans?

vernal condor
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Im in my secondary residence and it kinda sucks lol

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I'll be back home on the 31st

royal jolt
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take your time ^^

vapid kernel
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Enjoy your holidays mael

cloud timber
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was anyone able to try support quaxly with ss grimsley

ivory kestrel
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has anyone tried Variety Bede in this? Either as an enabler, or as the main damage?

cloud timber
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didn't grind out for crits on every sync but there's an initial test

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+4e would grab another sync node too

cloud timber
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doesn't need to grind out for every crit, this one's still preferable

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doesn't need fa4 and grabs speedy entry but still has enough room to get last sync node without overcap

misty forge
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How much does kris do on same team?

royal jolt
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someone asked for V.Bede

plush palm
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so on par w/ serena

cloud timber
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working on kris

plush palm
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not sure what nc bede brongs to the table tho

cloud timber
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someone already did it but idk what gear, i'm using max attack no bonuses

royal jolt
plush palm
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also dont know if its 3/5 vbede

royal jolt
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likely passive boosting?

cloud timber
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(had bonuses for grimsley but w/e, 3% on para for sync +95 atk)

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and paralyzed two

plush palm
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maybe

royal jolt
vapid kernel
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Thats lower than Lyra but its not the optimised team

royal jolt
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I don't doubt that

plush palm
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interesting

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trying to get a extra serena sync in

cloud timber
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one para proc is one more sync

plush palm
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13 seconds left at the end

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so close

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i give up

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cant get the stars to align today

royal jolt
cloud timber
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grimsley already dodged 3/5 single target attacks and had 9s remaining so he'd need a few more plus para proc

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wdym

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that's the result i got

royal jolt
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I mean did you just have a slow run? or were you trying to get a 9th sync in?

cloud timber
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15s remaining on last sync so one more full para would very safely be enough or maybe better inputs

misty forge
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Also tops off spa & crit

royal jolt
cloud timber
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nah i don't think i did

ivory kestrel
cloud timber
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very possible i got one without noticing though

misty forge
cloud timber
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adr1 melony and did most sings at min speed

misty forge
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Still, -6 SEUN & circle Is good ig

cloud timber
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didn't record that one so i'll go and double check

plush palm
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tbf i dont have any if the bedes

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i just dont consider him all that interesting

cloud timber
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yeah same thing roughly, 14s

royal jolt
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damn

misty forge
cloud timber
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also i para left side, para middle does less if you aren't getting more full para procs

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and flamethrower is slower than brutal swing

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sides have like 3x speed stat of middle

royal jolt
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I'd give that Kris run another go, but I'm frankly too tired

plush palm
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i remember running her w/ redlax and colress first tim areound

royal jolt
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I think I did sing spam with Red

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I could look up my video, but I'm lazy

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Yeah, I used Rosa and Red
1.3M on my first go

Not too bad

plush palm
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if only lillie were more accessible

fluid tendon
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Wdym she's perfectly accessible right now

lusty galleon
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she may cost 36,600 free gems if you're unlucky MinaBreak

plush palm
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lol nc blue already ate 21k and will soon eat 6k more

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man cleaned me out

fluid tendon
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Man's gotta eat

plush palm
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might as well go for the pity at this point

cloud timber
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ran a single multi on nc leaf and red just for the coins and got red, guess i'm set for ice now

plush palm
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damn hope you didnt need that luck for anything else next month

cloud timber
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i won't, possibly not for a while either

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got a huge gem supply anyway

cloud timber
true locust
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This could boost lyss even more

royal jolt
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Arc Diantha with endless Kalos Circle when?

true locust
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If Diantha will get it prob fairy unit

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So not sure if circle we get fairy zone more like it

safe prawn
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Supp/field fairy with fairy zone and kalos circle RoxanneThis

normal parcel
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Absolutely not, circle is multiplicative, blue passive is additive, and there's a big difference

royal jolt
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I want her to deal 999 zillion damage, though

true locust
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Arc is multi so no sup/field🤣

royal jolt
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We gotta wait for EXR+ for a third role

normal parcel
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Maybe the can give her a passive that gives double sync buff from 1st sync

true locust
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Or sync effect like leon super up next after each sync

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Can be same double sync buff after 1

royal jolt
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I can see her having SMUN after sync

A special version of Cyn

normal parcel
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Generally is better

true locust
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We have adler iris diantha

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Next for arc suit pairs

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We need good bug unit

royal jolt
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Isn't it just Alder and Iris? One of the three halos are down

crude sandal
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Diantha will make fairy team back to the old sync spam

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No more B Move Gladion meta GladionSip

royal jolt
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Queen on top

normal parcel
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Or maybe both

royal jolt
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Her BGM better be Arc Leon levels of peak

crude sandal
normal parcel
true locust
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Depend wat they give hard tell dps or sync spam

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Can be also sup like arc steven

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So gladion still can be number 1

royal jolt
normal parcel
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Maybe gladion can still be worth using for a final.b move

crude sandal
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We still don't have an AS unit with sprint or field

true locust
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If she have rebuff and zone can easy replace wally

royal jolt
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But no funny -6 to countdown

true locust
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You can do it any way

crude sandal
true locust
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Only if she is tech need this passive

normal parcel
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Problem with gladion is that the optimal clear is hell

true locust
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Yes you need 2 miss

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Its hell

royal jolt
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I can never go for the second one

true locust
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I got 2 many times

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But you need also drop spe def itc alot work

royal jolt
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I've settled for at least the second miss without the first

true locust
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First is more easy get since you reset for it from scratch

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For 2 if you play and don’t get its alot time waist

normal parcel
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Yes but second is more mandatory since 1st doesn't eat smun

true locust
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Plus you need hope wally confusion keep long so low they spe def

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All this is rng hell

royal jolt
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I think the average i get is -2 or 3 Sp.Def

true locust
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-4/5 need for 1 if want high numbers

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2/3 is good for last one

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Since you get more sync buffs befor it

royal jolt
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I was just happy crossing 3M :)
Twice!

true locust
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Lillie make this run more easy if she miss sings

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Sad she only give special up next from sync . Not from sing spam for team

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This would solve all issue whit gladion run

royal jolt
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Wouldn't having SMUN on sing spam slow it down tremendously?

true locust
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Not realy

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You would not need 1 more sync

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So would be same

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Since 10 special up galdion would hit 999k -5/6 spe def

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But this may need still miss from him any way

cloud timber
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ladies and gentlemen

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squeezed in 6 smun muddy water

royal jolt
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Wooo

safe prawn
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Congrats!!

misty forge
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Funniest part is that score can be reached with that same 3/5 dahlia with 7 less candy investment WEEZing

royal jolt
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😭

cloud timber
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yeah but

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i can save the role cake

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she's not roled

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but yeah if i chose to i could outdo it with dahlia but no fun

brazen escarp
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water weak = hydro pump spam for me :(

cloud timber
#

base cyrus can make it to like 500k

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but that was in water single and with premium supports

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maybe someday i'll get him over the 6m mark entirely on his own damage but happy with this for now

vapid kernel
true locust
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Plus why use max move if rain is up you can wait longer too

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And use slow speed in game it help save time

cloud timber
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heat wave burns are 20% per, unlikely to get just one and a lot more unlikely to get multiple

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went with steam eruption to make sure more runs get off the ground and check for evasion misses

vagrant ivy
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he’s really putting in work huh

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yeah I wouldn’t grind for heat wave burn compounded with evasion rng

cloud timber
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used max speed while everything was happening in queues, went to min speed when i needed to start teeter dance spamming and delayed that as much as i could to not deal with confusion eating up time and have minimum chances to wear out early

lethal siren
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With hostile environment and heat wave scorching touch
He can burn with heat wave

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All

cursive linden
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Psychic 3v1: Anni May/SS Brendan/Hol. Lillie
Steel 3v3 no status: SS Lear/Aaron/Anni'24 Lillie
Dark 3v1 no moves: SS2 Gio/NC Serena/????

crude sandal
#

Isn't Zinnia the best for dark 3v1?

cursive linden
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Do i look like i have her?

true locust
true locust
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In st dark

cursive linden
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They meant SC Zinnia

royal jolt
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🔥 🔥 🔥

cursive linden
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Egg Gyara DPS?

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That works?

royal jolt
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Idk

misty forge
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It can do like 500k

cursive linden
misty forge
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Strike gyara dps is around N & zekrom dps @3/5

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It's really funny

royal jolt
#

he's washed

cloud timber
misty forge
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Yep

cloud timber
#

cyrus prob does worse with the same teams just bc hydro pump is that much lower bp than hyper beam

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i think that team would buff egg gyara more

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3 bar move vs a 4 bar move

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you can get misses to work in your favor for sync cd but no sync damage

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and strike gyara has double down 2

pseudo stag
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When bringing nc blue to aoe dc, do y'alls reset for all 3 paras or just one?

cloud timber
#

1

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you want to know what a run with 1 para looks like before trying to grind out for more paras unless you're using ss cyrus as your spammer in multi or something

pseudo stag
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People use ss cyrus for sleep spam???

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Wtf why

misty forge
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Because he drops stats which is really useful

cloud timber
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dark zone + spam and stat drops

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and he's basically my entire limited dark roster

pseudo stag
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When does he get stat drops

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Mine is still 1/5

misty forge
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Whenever he clicks dark void

cloud timber
#

^

misty forge
# pseudo stag Mine is still 1/5

Bad Break 9
Has a chance (100%) of lowering one of the following stats of all opposing sync pairs by one stat rank at random when the user’s Pokémon uses a status move: Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, accuracy, or evasiveness.

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Base skill

pseudo stag
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Oh it's an rng debuff

misty forge
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Ye

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But since you spam with him

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It's like 30-35 debuffs AoE

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Across 3 mins

pseudo stag
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Does the debuff not eat up time?

misty forge
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No, because it happens in the after time effect

pseudo stag
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Ah, cool

misty forge
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Iirc

pseudo stag
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That's good to know when dark dc returns, since I have nc blue now

cloud timber
#

looks like bad break 9 has a bit of time cost but it's not the debuffs themselves which i thought did affect it

misty forge
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Mhhh its still minor

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Iirc

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Like, shorter that charging infliction

cloud timber
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i would think so too but it looks like it manages to end up being about the same speed

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guess it's just that speed and accuracy debuffs help

pearl dawn
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Oh, really?

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Figured Cyrus would've been slow, that's interesting.

pseudo stag
cunning rock
cloud timber
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could be .05 or .06 slower but i only tested once lol compared to the 3 tests i did with bp barry that varied by up to .03

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but close enough to be likely that it's actually just the same

pallid girder
fallen trail
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i was under the impression that both are 20%

slender venture
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The more regular sync multipliers your pair has, the more the 20% from Blue get's diluted

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Because it just gets added to those, imagine you have haymaker and sp3, with NC Blue buff it's a difference of 150% vs 130%, an effective ~15% damage buff
In that same case circle would just be a ×1.2 multiplier on top of all things

royal jolt
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Dawg... 😭

thick stump
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in the second one it'd probably be better to replace dahlia with a sing spammer

royal jolt
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oh, it's a DPS run

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I don't have Leaf's EXR, so sync rushing is not really a route I can take

thick stump
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Ohh ok

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Yea exr would help a lot for her

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Hows your archie grid? First one seems most likely

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Just need good super rain procs

royal jolt
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I didn't have many procs. I know it can break 1M

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but, it's crazy how Leaf just scored higher even without him

thick stump
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Only barely higher

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Thats some damage roll diff lol

pallid girder
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Chase will be better for any special DPS run if you have him.

royal jolt
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oh, right
I have him

vernal condor
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So lazy I dont want to do this DC LarryDead

vagrant ivy
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what's the highest recorded score for poison stall in DC

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iirc those strats have never broken 200k but just asking if anyone has

true locust
copper otter
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time for pain here.

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Psychic = Dexio or Jacq
Steel: SS Lear
Dark: uhhhhhh

long silo
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Psychic: Lear
Steel: SS Lear
Dark: Lodge Lear

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@thin wren Lear gaming

plush palm
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gonna be going colress for shauna

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or poppy

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idk how good 3/5 poppy is

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how do you even use poppy

copper otter
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DPS

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you don't sync with her

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her main damage comes from BONK

plush palm
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i dont have lear btw

cursive linden
plush palm
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should be able to hit 1m ezpz

royal jolt
plush palm
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on the 24th

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so 26

royal jolt
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Aw...

copper otter
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focus on High score first.

royal jolt
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I mean, I'll just get the minimum
I think

feral hamlet
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Single target Water is among my worst scores of all time for this. What options do I have for it? Previous best was 400k. Hoping to reach 500k this time at least?

true locust
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Lol you have nc serena easy 1m score but lv up units too lv 150

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Use lax/ chase/ nc blue serena melony/ h lillie

feral hamlet
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Wow how did I miss that

plush palm
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yes

true locust
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Even crit 2 should easy set it

plush palm
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probably your best option for 3v1too

true locust
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Yeap the best for both

plush palm
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she is just that good

feral hamlet
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I should put on my glasses first lol

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Maybe I didn't have her 3/5 and/or Role EX before and couldn't hit higher than that

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Oh wait this is multi target lol

true locust
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Nothing better you don’t have for water then serena

feral hamlet
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I guess that's that. Maybe next rerun I'll have a better unit for this

plush palm
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still good

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chase > redlax tho

feral hamlet
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She only got 3 syncs out and I forgot to SEUP the second one

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Don't have Chase

plush palm
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oh yeah you can probably push another 200k or smth

scenic grotto
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Who do people think is the best general support duo for units that can max their own crit and attack/sp. attack?
I think it might be Redlax and H Lillie because Redlax can provide para, H Lillie can provide sing spam and speed buffs, both can have the combination of support and sprint, and both can provide SEUN to the main sync nuker

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Of course you can’t forget that there are support units for specific types due to being able to set WTZ and/or rebuff the opponent whilst doing other support that only works for one type

plush palm
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pretty much

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tho chase / h lillie has redlax beat

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or alternatively smth w/ bianca

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Chase evasion opens up even more rng heavy comps

scenic grotto
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Nice

plush palm
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evasion shenanigans are either amazing or the worst thing ever

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So gl

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sometimes it does fuck all

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sometimes you gst a extra 1-2 sync in

scenic grotto
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Yep
Higher score ceiling but boy are you at the mercy of RNG

thin wren
crude sandal
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Gloria's superawakening is fucking useless

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She could've had potential to almost match AS Leon's score, but they butchered her superawakening so hard

fallen trail
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i kinda like it YellowShy

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5 +3 pmuns off base kit

pallid girder
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At least sure crit sync makes her rngless. Some units have more wtf SA.

plush palm
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wtf even was the ss red one

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effectively just a solar sync w/ no extension

hard sleet
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I feel like Gloria benefits so much off of SA stats that she doesn’t need to worry about missing out on damaging passives

cursive mauve
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5 pt more than the perfect number TabithaHehe

vapid kernel
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Electric triple again hm

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Hau supremacy

vagrant ivy
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the 19 tech coin dilemma

pallid girder
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Dark ST (not rank) before Electric MT.

vagrant ivy
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do i candy ss hau for potential 3m+ in electric MT or do i candy ss diantha for hse

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both are 2/5

pallid girder
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Btw 10/5 SS Hau can prob ungrid Power Plant coz his fairy zone summons et with sa passive, which is quite big for him.

cloud timber
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i feel like hse is bad to care about for non-whales

true locust
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Hse now if no super will be hard for high ranks

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Dc in 2 days will have same issue

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Exr dena put slow in game this is way too fast

vagrant ivy
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single dark is tomorrow... oh joy

hard sleet
vapid kernel
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Hes useful in gerneral

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Personally i think diantha more useful

vapid kernel
cursive mauve
hard sleet
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Oh dang didn’t know her sync hit that hard

cursive mauve
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150% multiplier + rain + sure crit moment

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I improved a bit to 2.9 mil by using a b hydro cannon early to get the -1 Sp.Def

cursive linden
brazen escarp
cursive saddle
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is the burn damage applied after the timer runs out?

warped gulch
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That is the error in DC

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If you target left side mon and it has status on it

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That will happen

cursive saddle
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whaaat

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so it's recommended to hit left?

warped gulch
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Not at all

proud minnow
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It’s a visual bug

cursive saddle
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oh

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interesting

proud minnow
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I do remember that mostly happening during Fire 3v3

warped gulch
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It’ll only happen if you target left side mon

cursive saddle
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so... is 10m damage real on fire 3v3?

warped gulch
proud minnow
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Yes

proud minnow
cursive saddle
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.... so it's a visual bug yet the game will reward you those tickets?

proud minnow
#

Yes

cursive saddle
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interesting

cursive saddle
proud minnow
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It applies to all status

cursive saddle
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aah ok

royal jolt
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It's such a funny bug

warped gulch
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You can also make enemy face appears like they help you too

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Ty Hop

royal jolt
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AND HIS ICON EVEN FLASHED
LMAO

warped gulch
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Yup, such a perfect timing

pallid girder
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I heard some ppl theorized SSA Gio (zone+spam) / NC Serena (sync) / Giacomo (final bmove) in dark ST (not rank).
Will it work tho for the gauge part? I mean reactive passive and Serena's long animation did help to stall gauge.

icy pendant
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Gio has Infliction Freebie if you need it

pallid girder
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Oh yeah I forgot that. Still using it means more time loss.

plush palm
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there is always bianca evasion shenanigans ofc

plush palm
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Not sure if giacmo is better thhan bianca

cursive linden
plush palm
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wait what causes the bug

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why is it only affecting 1 side

vernal condor
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Because it's a bug LanceShrug

plush palm
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how doyouvget it to trigger

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do you have to have them all para

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or just one

vernal condor
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I didnt know it involved status

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Sync left that's all I know

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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you want h lillie and archie probably, archie to set status with thunder and lillie to spam

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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normal strat although you'll need to make sure you max out serena's power play before syncing

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use her b move once

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cloud timber
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archie won't be set up so you want to use final moves with serena, lillie's b move should be used 0-1 times, too slow to use more than once

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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is your archie 3/5? his shower sync will last the fight

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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your first team had no spammer so you had a much lower sync count than was possible

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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again make sure serena is fully set up before her first sync, she shouldn't be spamming in any sense beyond setting that up

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cloud timber
# brazen escarp is the run submitted?

no existing recording since the teams aren't even practical, with accessible options you just want to make sure you have rain and support ex and cyrus's crit maxed

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it won't go nearly as high as 500k

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plush palm
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wait is 2 serena b moves not optimal

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have i been doing everything wrong

rotund sierra
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plush palm
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you can drop soften up

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but it leaves you at the mercy of rng

rotund sierra
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plush palm
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pick your poison

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you def notice if youre runnign cs2

azure vine
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dcmaxxer

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What’s the best team with nc serena for tomorrow?

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I’m guessing elio and nc blue because you want the +6 atk

cloud timber
#

b moves in general tend to be super slow and i've always heard one is better in serena's case

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best team for serena dark is ss cyrus and nc blue i think

fallen trail
#

i was wondering yeah if ss cyrus is good as the spammer for field exr

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but serenas at the mercy of tm mpr on that team

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she would need 2

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well the actual answer is ssa giovanni lmao

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by spamming stockpile he gets serena to +10 sync up next, its not as fast as sing sure but i think the field exr and +10 sync up next make up for it

cloud timber
#

setting power play becomes less efficient though, not sure what she wants as third

fallen trail
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its already pretty inefficient

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having to water shuriken twice

cloud timber
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cyrus spam sets it

fallen trail
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ohh

plush palm
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i cant get the bug to trogger

fallen trail
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that team being at the mercy of tm mpr is super painful though

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i dont even remember what i did last time

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apparently this…?

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i feel like c bianca would have been better than red here

cloud timber
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status left and use aoe move seems like all you should need, got the bug to happen on first sync

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but i also used chase tm and muddy waters, idk if those could have affected it

fallen trail
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actually no bianca cant paralyze im dum

cloud timber
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yeah she's kinda tied to colress, idk if any other comps match that success

fallen trail
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well i did make top 15 on fighting 3v3 with her c rosa and rei

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thats more flinch abuse though

cloud timber
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ah yea def for fighting you want rosa on

fallen trail
#

i guess i'll try fishing for the double mpr

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whats the worst that could happen

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(clueless)

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not enough energy left to grab anything substantial :/

cloud timber
#

it'll suck but i don't think there are any starts that come close to ss lysandre heat wave aoe burn fishing where you also want aoe crits

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so there's that

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one case where chase actually removes rng instead of adds it bc you can rely on evasion to save the necessary time

fallen trail
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i have cyrus 4/5 so i can run this ig

cloud timber
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and then there's mid-late game 20% rolling for seun that ss cyrus can need if you want to push hard

fallen trail
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oh i didnt see that tile lol

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uhh not sure if i wanna mess w that

cloud timber
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i never fished for more than one but i know some people already have with gloria

fallen trail
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hes only syncing once

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so

cloud timber
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yeah it's only if you're using him as main dd

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which i need to

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status left and aoe should be all you need to trigger the bug, just eliminated every other potential factor i can think of

plush palm
fallen trail
#

1 serena b move is def better vs dark

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for water its whatever

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dark its sooooo slow to water shuriken water shuriken brutal swing b move then do it again

warped gulch
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2 Shuriken -> BW -> B Move -> 2 Shuriken -> BW -> B Move

fallen trail
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yeah not worth

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just 1 b move

long silo
#

Finally got that 3rd sync in LarryDead

cloud timber
#

dark st has heat wave so we're gonna have to put up with that again

long silo
#

Archer gaming for me again

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But would also try Lodge Lear

warped gulch
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I’ll try some team, bc my Dark is shit anyway

long silo
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I did Akari and Archer last time. The only one I'm adding is Lear lol

warped gulch
#

Test some teams and yeah, even at 1/5 Dahlia’ll improve you water score like a lot

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I tried with gridless Dahlia so she is almost 1/5 in both run

long silo
#

That said I could try some Gio stuff HilbertHmm

long silo
cloud timber
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dahlia probably better even without setting cakewalk but tried this for fun

vagrant ivy
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no way???

cloud timber
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grinding for more speed debuffs and crits would push over 1m

vagrant ivy
#

the guy you get for free from chapter 2 has 1m potential LeonWow

rotund sierra
cloud timber
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gg

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
#

it's one option, you might have others in mind

brazen escarp
#

So something like cyrus winona and nc blue can work right?

long silo
#

Well my option is Dahlia lol altho ngl I forgot about Cakewalk

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But on that comp probably ok to drop Cakewalk altogether

cloud timber
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setting aoe cakewalk is highly inefficient without pal serena or milo

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or things like that

long silo
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Neither of which I have SophoKEK

cloud timber
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yea same

long silo
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The only one I have is SC Steven, and I'm not doing that

cloud timber
long silo
#

It would have been a different story if he has Support EXR but alas

cloud timber
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he does still have st rebuff and seun but it'd be harder to fit in barry's buffs

long silo
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Oh ye true

warped gulch
#

With Milo

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Dont ask me about level 141 Barry

long silo
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Why do you have lvl141 Barry

cloud timber
#

would have to be +3 spa but i suppose it's worth it to have everything else be that ideal

warped gulch
cursive linden
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Only +3 Sp. A

cloud timber
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seems like a 17% penalty compared to +6 but milo passive alone more than makes up for it

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or dahlia rebuff or dahlia rain or -6 as soon as you apply any one of those

royal jolt
vagrant ivy
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funny

royal jolt
unborn otter
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@warped gulch should i bother with 3/5 exr dahlia, 3/5 exr chase, and 3/5 exr nc blue or use dahlia nc blue with 1/5 hlillie

warped gulch
#

Chase + Blue has a lot of rng

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And 4/5 Dahlia has -2 Sync CD on Max Move helps reduce it a lot

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So i think Chase + Lillie is way better than Chase + NC Blue

cloud timber
#

^

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too late to be worrying about the latter

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unless you get a run with lillie that you want to improve further

unborn otter
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2-3 fishes for superduper 4 a few times

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How would chase plus lillie play out?

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I got all dc pairs 2-3/5 but still haven’t gotten dc marnie

cloud timber
#

chase is a little similar but you're using evasion to make up for slower setup and reactive passives

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but kanto circle is multiplicative instead of blue's additive passive so if you can get same number of syncs you'll get a bigger boost

cloud timber
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and evasion gets the potential to fit in an extra sync as well but that depends on comp

unborn otter
#

I’m a new 3/5 chase haver and am unfamiliar with using him in dc

cloud timber
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grid team grand entry and both mprs, you can use x spa at max boost to fail and boost speed+eva slightly faster

unborn otter
#

There’s a clear with 5/5 10e dahlia chase and melony

cloud timber
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basically going to be the same as h lillie except lillie is less demanding on gauge if there's any trouble supplying it and has the potential to provide seun though it's somewhat slow so you're usually either not using it or using it just once for last sync

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and sprint ex helps ofc

unborn otter
cloud timber
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the difference between melony and h lillie is always going to be exactly that

brazen escarp
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Eh decent enough for me

cloud timber
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you gridded cyrus right?

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hydro pump ramming speed and all its tiles

unborn otter
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No adr, hs1. Water gear

bold star
#

My sync move went out at 00:00:00 KrisNervous

cloud timber
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already got heat wave burned through +5 evasion

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on my spammer

long silo
#

DC moment

royal jolt
#

hate wave burned Barry twice

cloud timber
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no seun yet

warped gulch
#

Ok Giacomo is funny

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He just deals 999k after Eri’s Sync

cloud timber
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3m is not at all happening lol, wasn't aiming for it anyway

long silo
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Just Giacomo things

warped gulch
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Also my Eri is 10/5 rn bc favorite

long silo
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I was prepared to select scout him, but Elio blocked me from ever getting Selene on their double banner SophoKEK

warped gulch
long silo
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So Selene it is

warped gulch
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Try to record and this happen

long silo
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Lmao

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Hate Wave things

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Red still has nightmares of it

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Also slightly related but I like the 10/5 Eri

royal jolt
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One sync off

warped gulch
#

Owfhwojdpkspqjpwurlnqxlhwocj

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I just got burned again

long silo
#

After 10/5 Anni Raihan I still have no idea who next

warped gulch
#

On 2nd attempts

royal jolt
warped gulch
royal jolt
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Sigh

plush palm
#

missed 2 sync crits

cursive mauve
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Miss one sync crit LarryDead

plush palm
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cant afford soften up on a dark grid

warped gulch
#

I love Burn

hollow wadi
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Yo congrats

royal jolt
#

Missed two out of three sync crits 😒

dense gate
#

I’m guessing 2/5 Masked Royal is my best option for Dark ST if I EX him? Pecking order might take too long to set up

hollow wadi
dense gate
cloud timber
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may be able to trade last seun for another sync, had seun for last sync and second dark pulse at end

lusty galleon
#

I got 1M with Archer

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guess I'll wait a bit for Giovanni (if I'm lucky)

warped gulch
#

How to use Giacomo :

plush palm
cloud timber
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+30% to syncs just for existing basically, or more specifically 20% additive from his own passive and +10% to circle

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and good speed stat to ensure dark void spam works without umbral acceleration

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also he speeds up chase setup a bit

plush palm
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huh

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still better than sc steven?

cloud timber
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don't have sc steven so dunno lol

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but i think so

plush palm
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i feel like -1 rebuff + seup would be better tho idk

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havent tried

cursive mauve
cloud timber
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yeah likely is

plush palm
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Rn still playing around w/ nc serena

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gonna try him after dinner

cloud timber
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still is the possibility of pushing out 7th sync with this team that i'm not sure any other can accomplish

plush palm
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yes im having reheated pasta at 2am

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my sleep schedule is fucked

cloud timber
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well throwing in a sing spammer would always make it possible but you drop all of blue's passive buffs

plush palm
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so back to lillie spam

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hf

cloud timber
teal haven
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How much do the enemy's stats have to be lowered to max out power play

cloud timber
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18

true locust
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Ok i have extra energy on him so can pick zone extention

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Or its no need zone is up too end?

plush palm
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he has field exr so idk if you even need it

cloud timber
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field ex overwrites it and is better anyway

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equivalent of extension 5, +50 seconds and extension 3 is 30

plush palm
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unless you dont have his cake

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which is fair

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all my vouchers go to support cakes

cloud timber
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extra energy should go toward dark pulse tiles really, there's also a +5 spa tile in there

cunning rock
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Absurd amount of RNG, a lot of dodges and paras. Gettin Archer's X attack MPR to pop. Redlax having enough TMs to SEUN ALL of Archer's syncs, Archer critting.

long silo
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Ooh Redlax

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I was thinking of still using Larry with him

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I'll probably still use Larry given how I already saw your result lol

cloud timber
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gauge starts to suck when you push for 7th sync so i'm gridding umbral acceleration since i'm dropping super prep anyway

brazen escarp
cloud timber
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alright good

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once you can afford to candy blue to 3/5 the -2 def and -2 spdef on sync will help a lot for everything

brazen escarp
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Steel triple in super sparring

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Nice

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I will finally be able to hit 500k in a super sparring

warped gulch
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My video just got copyrighted bc 10s Yoasobi music at the start

long silo
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If you are interested, MC Solgaleo can hit 1m

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Also lmao oops

warped gulch
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I’ll add random PMD music then

true locust
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Lol get cyrus super up next is pain

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Like 6 dark pulse in row nothing🤣

brazen escarp