#Damage Challenge
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Yeahhh
I thought it's +6 eva but it's only +3. Sad.
I mean, from a mechanic standpoint, I get it
+4 if grid the slippery
it's a good expansion for every purpose that isn't dc
~~someone do the regirock solo
~~
Yeah
for dc idr if there's any better side expansion than ss grimsley besides morty and kris
Guzma
Guzma the goat, save bug type not ST tho
Yeah Elesa too
many strikes did get good expansions lol
With f2p ? Not even close
yeah, she needs to use 3 snarls
And mega tax
i did get 1m with base cynthia pre-exr, sand blaster 5 and haymaker on side expansion to allow her to do anything
yup... that doesn't ensure many syncs...
How does Ethan do on triple fire?
Brainpower
Evasion, even if it's little
Maybe the possibility of sun
Has record of 1M iirc.
but Silver hits harder (yet you need the unlock)
Are we counting Silver?
doubt as it is time-locked
that reminds me, maybe should've tried full damage Ethan on ST 
side expansion is side expansion
though not many of them were actually released during dc itself
so sad tbh
and then you remind mael that there's no "use normal moves" DC where Palmer would've been an absolute beast
Palmer looks so funny
I really want him
Hope SS Elesa get sth that let her workable in dc again.
I've got my eyes set on Dexio for tech. For support, I'm still kinda deciding
For strike, I'm stuck between Giacomo or Alt. Selene
I don't "care" about Dexio...
but if I rolled, I'd get Leon
and from Strike is hard... I want Selene or Palmer for now...
DCwise...
I dunno which I'd get lol
I dont lol, before Melony is thing. SS Elesa was meta for f2p and it was awful
SS Elesa was meta?
for f2p
yep at the very beginning
Damn
Must've missed that
Yeah
but... 1 use with 40% MPR
Yeah….. rather stick with Melony
plus her look alive triggering everytime she got hit
Also you need a lot of dodge from her too
The first meta I ever knew of was colress
fun that he is still usable as you can just skip the freebie 
Yeah
Remember we thought pairs like SS Ethan or SS Lusa will be meta for DC
We can manage that these days

SS Lusa was at the time tbh
SS Lusamine actually was the first unit I crossed 1M with
She just kinda sucks for nuking
now there's just other options lol
I got more out of her DPS than her actual sync
no EX R Tech/Strike Psychics
Yeah, Lear didn’t have it yet
and Steven not having multipliers in grid...
SS Steven made me proud on the run-back
And when he got it, bye Lusa
yup, once actual strike/tech combo appear, she got discarded lol
My first team was NC Rosa, SS Lusa, and SS Lana
I don't have Lana, so I used Whitney

H one, that is
and it actually worked as she lowered Sp. Def AoE while I turn negated with Rosa's Sing
the SS Lusa/H Whitney/NC Rosa team at the time... got me 1.9M
Badically
And I got a better score than when I tried it again on reset lmao
tbh, I have more fun just damage dealing than sync spamming 
we all kinda sucked back then
Tbf that our first DC
Yeah
I know only Lg player knew about Colress TW spamming back then
After that, I kinda started getting into the strategy
I used SSSteven first & second.
Funny that SSS was considered worse than SSL the first time but better second time even tho no update on these 2 pairs.
And then I joined here
Grimsley's expansion is really neat :)
Skill gear specs:
+80 Atk.
Opp Paralyzed: Moves ↑ 5%
I love that triple water is very F2P friendly
kris is good enough i guess
She is better
Is she still
Bc way lower rng
What do you choose? 1M water or 1M water but with sure crit

Also no evasion needed
i got 1m the first time w/ her and colress
My hope is that she gets sth that paired well with Melony.
Speed buff + MGA. Basically Sonia but with -cd & eva buff.
gladion buff next month please
Granted
Fast Track 9
If Gladion could hit ~400k in every st after pb he's alr better than a lot of f2p real tech on type (especially bug & fairy)
The suffering ofc 
Grims suffer too much from mega penalty
Give him tech EXR
And an OP awakening
Give him the Diantha treatment
Who are we talking about
double down 9 custom ls
A Spotlight
old genpool probably aint raking in enough $$$
SS Grimsley
~~Which will never happen ~~
That’s who I was thinking lel
I know, lol
Would be peak
wouldnt mind them bringing out genpool SA
They should
I recall that mini moment where gladion was good because of some zone setter
And was actually viable
if only bc theres gotta be some smuck willing to drop 5 SA candy on olympia or smth
I have 80-something 3☆ candies
They don't even give us those anymore
Like look at my bag
Giving gladion DD9 and SDE9 would be nice the +40 atk tile would be doing a lot
SDE?
superduper effective
Give him a way to self buff crit too
Super duper effective
Pls
Dena won't dare to buff Gladion 
I'll be fine with that +40 atk 
I always thought his tm buffed crit by 3 lel
Critical Crit + Super Powered 9
Gladion pb: SuperPowered 9, Haymaker, TM +3 crit, Entry +2 atk
Also give him custom ls SuperPowered 4 again
Give him the Kris free tiles
Perfect.
the x means... "the attack stat is multiplied by x on combat"
lel
honesly it doesnt hurt them at all to make genpool sa
All I want is all gen pools to get exrs
it takes time on people trying to give names to the SA and think what to give lol
theres always some dude whos favorite unit is eysine or smth
Me!
yet they don't give mass EX R...
SE next 
Wouldnt be suprised if theres people who really like olympia
She was decent for a good bit
i know malva has fans
She's nice
I'm a fan of her kit
You’re just naming Kalos fans
Mother Malva
I mean if they don't bother to give past seasonal exr, I doubt they'll do anything to past genpool.
and people who want malva to step on them
Dena cares way less about seasonals then they do about Gen pools
What about kalos rival ?
I really wish I had Malva
Which one there’s 4
i dont have her either
I wish she had Flare Blitz and Brave Bird with Recoil Removal 9
Uh Orange hair one
Trevor
I dont even remember his name
Trevor?
Can’t wait for all old gen pools sipports to get tech exr
i will take it
Peak
Would make her have more Lg solos maybe
Since it buffs spd and defenses
jasmine post expansion could use anything
Striker EXR or Tech EXR
I'm also a huge fan of Dawn's nuke
It's so funny
Leaf getting field to power creep the poke fair with SA
Dawn, Lyra, Jasmine. Do I miss any genpool 5* support with innate?
Hop dmg is nice
I remember using him solo CS
The dmg is so good with SEUN and after enemy Sync
Not genpool but Skyla
falkner has inertia for some reason
Those are like big 4
That’s on grid
Misty
Non genpool we have more. Misty, Cheren, Marlon, Marley.

tbf it might as well be innate if youre going for synchro healing
Still waiting her EX
Cheren my goat
I think innates scale better with other mults
letting cheren get statused for outrun 4 and crazy fast gauge always my fav strat
Wish there was a good status for him to receive
it also makes his sync stronger!!
Should’ve given him lessen status whatever 9 on grid
That’s why his grid is bad
No other reason
marley has innatw for some reason
Oh right she had inertia
I'm really sad they didn't make his grid about inflicting self status or all status reduction 9.
I miss when supports got inmates
Me too
marlon
inmates
Tbf he even has dps tiles
Gosh I hate auto correct
xd
Gimmick but will be fun, better that the worthless "general use but you'll want to use Skyla anyway" grid we really got.
i thought ss blue would get strike exr since he had innate
guess i should be glad he didnt… would be funny for this dc stage though
I legit forgot this is DC chat
I’m so glad he didn’t cause the other sskantrio were matching their NC’s exrs for the most part
I thought this was LG chat oops
Lol
ss blue strike exr woulda carried water 3v3… just sayin
Back to DC I actually have a question, next is dark st and last time we believed NC Serena was the best tho not really a dark type.
Will it change this time?
SS Cyrus spams himself with 2 dmg booster?
In 3v1 I don't think Giacomo will be the best.
I think he can be great but never saw a full investment team w him, but the last dark multi he wasn't performing much
Yeah then Giacomo arrived
Also that make me remember how bad V Selene is
Damn true
Just bc Dark Zone takes too much time
5/5 ssag will be perfect giacomo enabler for b moves besides not having rebuff, zone and maxes symun/pmun
and has spam
Don't forget that new drip Gio will debut exactly the day dark st drop.
my best options are still nc serena and ss xyrus
Dena is learning how to make moneys again
too late 
Is gio even relevant tbh?
He can spam
i'll run a few pulls on gio but not more than that and he won't help cyrus
Like Def Order and Comic Power
Not exactly the reset tho. 9 hour after reset.
New drip Gio debut 00:00 Jan 1 in JPT.
Oh! Need to check him
Pomatool isn't working for me for some reasion 
if you use him for dc spam you would want infliction freebie, 331 is an awful speed stat to go off of otherwise even with chase
janine has 363 and still runs out, dc blue gets 434
Janine got prep rally tho
Still not enough for her to keep up
That ncSerena ssKris Janine team was scavenging for gauge
With the rain boost and gauge accel
yeah janine seems like she should work but not good enough last i checked
got burnt but didn’t matter
nvm dc blue is still a fraud
yeah ss misty's speed does look a bit subpar
plus uhhh shouldn't you be using like elio for sync power flux or is it worth just waiting with melony or w/e
Yeah Elio would be more ideal for sync power flux pair.
how exactly should i use vietnam lillie
holiday lillie? (if you're not using nc blue or chase for more efficient speed buffs) you just use a few successful sings or moonblasts to buff speed to +4 and save tm for gauge for later and that'll get you to +6, sometimes you won't even need that much
and you can use basically any other status setter to set status for sing spam, usually stuff like nc blue/chase/redlax are good picks but there's tons of other potential options
the timing is really tight even with evasion stuff so I decided not to risk it
need to circle twice for maximum effect
question, how good is SS Grimsley in the water Damage Challenge?
worse than Kris for sure
Lyra gj
If hes EXed , yes
He is. Just trying to ifgure out partners and such (since Esuine and LySSandre are too low sync level to use)
Oh yeah theyre now sameish
After pb
3.1 on kris vs 3.2 grims
Difference is kris has no rng
Because crit next after sync

Kris has sure crit on Tm and can grid Build Up
And you’ll use her Tm anyway to buff Speed
how much support does kris need to hit 1m anyways?
no gears 😔
Ofc you can try other premium support
how important is rain
50% more dmg
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009900040700&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAEGCAsNEBobHiEk&v1=001800016000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=11111&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDxESFRgfIS4wMjM1&v2=012600026000&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=
- Gears: my gears give Kris total 80 Atk, no passive
Reset for 1 X Atk ...
You also can try Melony + Sonia
Or SEUN
he has the potential to beat out Kris if he evades a good amount and has good crit chances
it's a very big "if," though
With best rng on both
He does slightly more
Meanwhile kris wins in 99.9% of scenarios
yeah, because of Build Up
Probably wont be updating the doc much in the following days
I wont be on my pc a lot, if at all
busy with end-of-year plans?
take your time ^^
Enjoy your holidays mael
was anyone able to try support quaxly with ss grimsley
has anyone tried Variety Bede in this? Either as an enabler, or as the main damage?
didn't grind out for crits on every sync but there's an initial test
+4e would grab another sync node too
doesn't need to grind out for every crit, this one's still preferable
doesn't need fa4 and grabs speedy entry but still has enough room to get last sync node without overcap
How much does kris do on same team?
so on par w/ serena
working on kris
not sure what nc bede brongs to the table tho
someone already did it but idk what gear, i'm using max attack no bonuses
neither am I, bit they're the only one from whom I've seen a Bede run, lol
also dont know if its 3/5 vbede
likely passive boosting?
maybe
Smarty Pants is a 3/5 passive, so we can assume it's 3/5 at minimum
Thats lower than Lyra but its not the optimised team
I don't doubt that
one para proc is one more sync
what happened here?
grimsley already dodged 3/5 single target attacks and had 9s remaining so he'd need a few more plus para proc
wdym
that's the result i got
I mean did you just have a slow run? or were you trying to get a 9th sync in?
15s remaining on last sync so one more full para would very safely be enough or maybe better inputs
Circle boost, -6 cd and supp ex
Also tops off spa & crit
ooh. So, it was fast...
did you get lucky with para?
Because I didn't have a chance at a 9th sync
nah i don't think i did
wait, V-Bede already comes in maxxed
very possible i got one without noticing though
Oh right
adr1 melony and did most sings at min speed
Still, -6 SEUN & circle Is good ig
didn't record that one so i'll go and double check
yeah same thing roughly, 14s
damn
I like him but the base one always runs in busy months and i don't scout variety
also i para left side, para middle does less if you aren't getting more full para procs
and flamethrower is slower than brutal swing
sides have like 3x speed stat of middle
I'd give that Kris run another go, but I'm frankly too tired
i remember running her w/ redlax and colress first tim areound
I think I did sing spam with Red
I could look up my video, but I'm lazy
Yeah, I used Rosa and Red
1.3M on my first go
Not too bad
if only lillie were more accessible
Wdym she's perfectly accessible right now
she may cost 36,600 free gems if you're unlucky 
Man's gotta eat
might as well go for the pity at this point
ran a single multi on nc leaf and red just for the coins and got red, guess i'm set for ice now
damn hope you didnt need that luck for anything else next month
close
You will get 6m:) sad we don’t have kalos circle
This could boost lyss even more
Arc Diantha with endless Kalos Circle when?
If Diantha will get it prob fairy unit
So not sure if circle we get fairy zone more like it
Supp/field fairy with fairy zone and kalos circle 
Absolutely not, circle is multiplicative, blue passive is additive, and there's a big difference
I want her to deal 999 zillion damage, though
Arc is multi so no sup/field🤣
We gotta wait for EXR+ for a third role
Maybe the can give her a passive that gives double sync buff from 1st sync
Or sync effect like leon super up next after each sync
Can be same double sync buff after 1
I can see her having SMUN after sync
A special version of Cyn
Generally is better
Isn't it just Alder and Iris? One of the three halos are down
Queen on top
Or maybe both
Her BGM better be Arc Leon levels of peak
Only sync spam, no DPS meta
I mean gladion isn't even DPS, is just about using 2 b moves with the most smun
Depend wat they give hard tell dps or sync spam
Can be also sup like arc steven
So gladion still can be number 1
That's always a possibility...
Maybe gladion can still be worth using for a final.b move
We still don't have an AS unit with sprint or field
If she have rebuff and zone can easy replace wally
But no funny -6 to countdown
You can do it any way
And if she has a passive similar to AS Leon's passive where she can hit all enemies, bye bye Gladion
Only if she is tech need this passive
Problem with gladion is that the optimal clear is hell
I can never go for the second one
I've settled for at least the second miss without the first
First is more easy get since you reset for it from scratch
For 2 if you play and don’t get its alot time waist
Yes but second is more mandatory since 1st doesn't eat smun
Yup
Plus you need hope wally confusion keep long so low they spe def
All this is rng hell
I think the average i get is -2 or 3 Sp.Def
-4/5 need for 1 if want high numbers
2/3 is good for last one
Since you get more sync buffs befor it
I was just happy crossing 3M :)
Twice!
Lillie make this run more easy if she miss sings
Sad she only give special up next from sync . Not from sing spam for team
This would solve all issue whit gladion run
Wouldn't having SMUN on sing spam slow it down tremendously?
Not realy
You would not need 1 more sync
So would be same
Since 10 special up galdion would hit 999k -5/6 spe def
But this may need still miss from him any way
Wooo
Congrats!!
Funniest part is that score can be reached with that same 3/5 dahlia with 7 less candy investment 
😭
yeah but
i can save the role cake

she's not roled
but yeah if i chose to i could outdo it with dahlia but no fun
water weak = hydro pump spam for me :(
base cyrus can make it to like 500k
but that was in water single and with premium supports
maybe someday i'll get him over the 6m mark entirely on his own damage but happy with this for now
Waw
You could do better. First dont use chase tm if have gauge. Second burn all from heat wave and spam more confusion. Then you can improve it
Plus why use max move if rain is up you can wait longer too
And use slow speed in game it help save time
heat wave burns are 20% per, unlikely to get just one and a lot more unlikely to get multiple
went with steam eruption to make sure more runs get off the ground and check for evasion misses
he’s really putting in work huh
yeah I wouldn’t grind for heat wave burn compounded with evasion rng
used max speed while everything was happening in queues, went to min speed when i needed to start teeter dance spamming and delayed that as much as i could to not deal with confusion eating up time and have minimum chances to wear out early
With hostile environment and heat wave scorching touch
He can burn with heat wave

All
Psychic 3v1: Anni May/SS Brendan/Hol. Lillie
Steel 3v3 no status: SS Lear/Aaron/Anni'24 Lillie
Dark 3v1 no moves: SS2 Gio/NC Serena/????

Isn't Zinnia the best for dark 3v1?
Yes but you can use more rng then is chance get 1 more sync. I just tell you wat i see can be improve. But need alot rng for it like you say 🙂
Not nc serena score more?
In st dark
They meant SC Zinnia
clearly, you fail to see the raw power of EGG GYRADOS
🔥 🔥 🔥
Idk

Yep
cyrus prob does worse with the same teams just bc hydro pump is that much lower bp than hyper beam
i think that team would buff egg gyara more
3 bar move vs a 4 bar move
you can get misses to work in your favor for sync cd but no sync damage
and strike gyara has double down 2
When bringing nc blue to aoe dc, do y'alls reset for all 3 paras or just one?
1
you want to know what a run with 1 para looks like before trying to grind out for more paras unless you're using ss cyrus as your spammer in multi or something
Because he drops stats which is really useful
Whenever he clicks dark void
^
Bad Break 9
Has a chance (100%) of lowering one of the following stats of all opposing sync pairs by one stat rank at random when the user’s Pokémon uses a status move: Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, Speed, accuracy, or evasiveness.
Base skill
Oh it's an rng debuff
Does the debuff not eat up time?
No, because it happens in the after time effect
Ah, cool
Iirc
That's good to know when dark dc returns, since I have nc blue now
looks like bad break 9 has a bit of time cost but it's not the debuffs themselves which i thought did affect it
i would think so too but it looks like it manages to end up being about the same speed
guess it's just that speed and accuracy debuffs help
rngesus willing
Psychic 3v1: VElio / NC Rosa / NC Blue
Steel 3v3: Pal Marnie (yes really) / Arc Steven / Aaron
Dark 3v1: Archer or DC Cheren / Redlax / HLillie
could be .05 or .06 slower but i only tested once lol compared to the 3 tests i did with bp barry that varied by up to .03
but close enough to be likely that it's actually just the same
Iirc SC Zinnia & NC Serena score similarly but in the end the highest score here was shown from NC Serena.
And the top 1 was not someone here or showed it on X/YT so we just dont know the answer.
wait explain this to me
i was under the impression that both are 20%
nah he works like how dahlia or anni n would
even if they have 2 gauge moves, they (or their ideal partners) can keep up with it
i used him in dark 3v3 a while ago to enable brycen man
Blue's buff is additive, while circles are multiplicative
The more regular sync multipliers your pair has, the more the 20% from Blue get's diluted
Because it just gets added to those, imagine you have haymaker and sp3, with NC Blue buff it's a difference of 150% vs 130%, an effective ~15% damage buff
In that same case circle would just be a ×1.2 multiplier on top of all things
Dawg... 😭
in the second one it'd probably be better to replace dahlia with a sing spammer
oh, it's a DPS run
I don't have Leaf's EXR, so sync rushing is not really a route I can take
Ohh ok
Yea exr would help a lot for her
Hows your archie grid? First one seems most likely
Just need good super rain procs
I didn't have many procs. I know it can break 1M
but, it's crazy how Leaf just scored higher even without him
ohh ok
Chase will be better for any special DPS run if you have him.
oh, right
I have him
So lazy I dont want to do this DC 
what's the highest recorded score for poison stall in DC
iirc those strats have never broken 200k but just asking if anyone has
Do you may have from steel dc this jp player dps run vid?
gonna be going colress for shauna
or poppy
idk how good 3/5 poppy is
how do you even use poppy
i dont have lear btw
Lear gaming reaL
should be able to hit 1m ezpz
How many resets until super sparring?
Aw...
focus on High score first.
I mean, I'll just get the minimum
I think
Single target Water is among my worst scores of all time for this. What options do I have for it? Previous best was 400k. Hoping to reach 500k this time at least?
Lol you have nc serena easy 1m score but lv up units too lv 150
Use lax/ chase/ nc blue serena melony/ h lillie
Wow how did I miss that
yes
Even crit 2 should easy set it
probably your best option for 3v1too
Yeap the best for both
she is just that good
I should put on my glasses first lol
Maybe I didn't have her 3/5 and/or Role EX before and couldn't hit higher than that
Oh wait this is multi target lol
Nothing better you don’t have for water then serena
oh yeah you can probably push another 200k or smth
Who do people think is the best general support duo for units that can max their own crit and attack/sp. attack?
I think it might be Redlax and H Lillie because Redlax can provide para, H Lillie can provide sing spam and speed buffs, both can have the combination of support and sprint, and both can provide SEUN to the main sync nuker
Of course you can’t forget that there are support units for specific types due to being able to set WTZ and/or rebuff the opponent whilst doing other support that only works for one type
pretty much
tho chase / h lillie has redlax beat
or alternatively smth w/ bianca
Chase evasion opens up even more rng heavy comps
Nice
evasion shenanigans are either amazing or the worst thing ever
So gl
sometimes it does fuck all
sometimes you gst a extra 1-2 sync in
Yep
Higher score ceiling but boy are you at the mercy of RNG
There can never be too much Lear
Gloria's superawakening is fucking useless
She could've had potential to almost match AS Leon's score, but they butchered her superawakening so hard
At least sure crit sync makes her rngless. Some units have more wtf SA.
I feel like Gloria benefits so much off of SA stats that she doesn’t need to worry about missing out on damaging passives
5 pt more than the perfect number 
the 19 tech coin dilemma
Dark ST (not rank) before Electric MT.
do i candy ss hau for potential 3m+ in electric MT or do i candy ss diantha for hse
both are 2/5
Btw 10/5 SS Hau can prob ungrid Power Plant coz his fairy zone summons et with sa passive, which is quite big for him.
i feel like hse is bad to care about for non-whales
Hse now if no super will be hard for high ranks
Dc in 2 days will have same issue
Exr dena put slow in game this is way too fast
single dark is tomorrow... oh joy
She gets that from just damage spam wow
Yes
Hes useful in gerneral
Personally i think diantha more useful
@vernal condor time for me to 3M with Ss cyrus 
Actually that was sync spam
Oh dang didn’t know her sync hit that hard
150% multiplier + rain + sure crit moment
I improved a bit to 2.9 mil by using a b hydro cannon early to get the -1 Sp.Def

is the run submitted?
why does it say 4.9M at 0 second mark but then when it goes to the score result, it changes to 6m damage score
is the burn damage applied after the timer runs out?
That is the error in DC
If you target left side mon and it has status on it
That will happen
Not at all
It’s a visual bug
I do remember that mostly happening during Fire 3v3
It’ll only happen if you target left side mon
so... is 10m damage real on fire 3v3?
So i think you burned left side mon and sing spam on it ?
Yes
I think something like that
.... so it's a visual bug yet the game will reward you those tickets?
Yes
Ofc
interesting
does this only apply to all status or only burn and poison?
It applies to all status
aah ok
I heard some ppl theorized SSA Gio (zone+spam) / NC Serena (sync) / Giacomo (final bmove) in dark ST (not rank).
Will it work tho for the gauge part? I mean reactive passive and Serena's long animation did help to stall gauge.
Gio has Infliction Freebie if you need it
Oh yeah I forgot that. Still using it means more time loss.
there is always bianca evasion shenanigans ofc
Not sure if giacmo is better thhan bianca
Very epic
Because it's a bug 
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you want h lillie and archie probably, archie to set status with thunder and lillie to spam
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normal strat although you'll need to make sure you max out serena's power play before syncing
use her b move once
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archie won't be set up so you want to use final moves with serena, lillie's b move should be used 0-1 times, too slow to use more than once
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is your archie 3/5? his shower sync will last the fight
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your first team had no spammer so you had a much lower sync count than was possible
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again make sure serena is fully set up before her first sync, she shouldn't be spamming in any sense beyond setting that up
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no existing recording since the teams aren't even practical, with accessible options you just want to make sure you have rain and support ex and cyrus's crit maxed
it won't go nearly as high as 500k
yes
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Dc core
dcmaxxer
What’s the best team with nc serena for tomorrow?
I’m guessing elio and nc blue because you want the +6 atk
b moves in general tend to be super slow and i've always heard one is better in serena's case
best team for serena dark is ss cyrus and nc blue i think
i was wondering yeah if ss cyrus is good as the spammer for field exr
but serenas at the mercy of tm mpr on that team
she would need 2
well the actual answer is ssa giovanni lmao
by spamming stockpile he gets serena to +10 sync up next, its not as fast as sing sure but i think the field exr and +10 sync up next make up for it
setting power play becomes less efficient though, not sure what she wants as third
cyrus spam sets it
ohh
i cant get the bug to trogger
that team being at the mercy of tm mpr is super painful though
i dont even remember what i did last time
apparently this…?
i feel like c bianca would have been better than red here
status left and use aoe move seems like all you should need, got the bug to happen on first sync
but i also used chase tm and muddy waters, idk if those could have affected it
actually no bianca cant paralyze im dum
yeah she's kinda tied to colress, idk if any other comps match that success
well i did make top 15 on fighting 3v3 with her c rosa and rei
thats more flinch abuse though
ah yea def for fighting you want rosa on
i guess i'll try fishing for the double mpr
whats the worst that could happen
(clueless)
not enough energy left to grab anything substantial :/
it'll suck but i don't think there are any starts that come close to ss lysandre heat wave aoe burn fishing where you also want aoe crits
so there's that
one case where chase actually removes rng instead of adds it bc you can rely on evasion to save the necessary time
i have cyrus 4/5 so i can run this ig
and then there's mid-late game 20% rolling for seun that ss cyrus can need if you want to push hard
i never fished for more than one but i know some people already have with gloria
yeah it's only if you're using him as main dd
which i need to
status left and aoe should be all you need to trigger the bug, just eliminated every other potential factor i can think of
ok i noticed a difference. got +300k w/ one 1 serena b move
1 serena b move is def better vs dark
for water its whatever
dark its sooooo slow to water shuriken water shuriken brutal swing b move then do it again
Finally got that 3rd sync in 
dark st has heat wave so we're gonna have to put up with that again
I did Akari and Archer last time. The only one I'm adding is Lear lol
Test some teams and yeah, even at 1/5 Dahlia’ll improve you water score like a lot
I tried with gridless Dahlia so she is almost 1/5 in both run
That said I could try some Gio stuff 
This reminds me I want to use OG Barry but idk if I have time
dahlia probably better even without setting cakewalk but tried this for fun
no way???
grinding for more speed debuffs and crits would push over 1m
the guy you get for free from chapter 2 has 1m potential 
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Oh hey you did it lol
it's one option, you might have others in mind
Alright thanks
So something like cyrus winona and nc blue can work right?
Well my option is Dahlia lol altho ngl I forgot about Cakewalk
But on that comp probably ok to drop Cakewalk altogether
don't need to use it, rain plus rebuff plus debuffs should make up for it
setting aoe cakewalk is highly inefficient without pal serena or milo
or things like that
Neither of which I have 
yea same
The only one I have is SC Steven, and I'm not doing that
yes, may would ofc be a better option but since you're suggesting winona you prob don't have access
It would have been a different story if he has Support EXR but alas
he does still have st rebuff and seun but it'd be harder to fit in barry's buffs
Oh ye true
Why do you have lvl141 Barry
would have to be +3 spa but i suppose it's worth it to have everything else be that ideal
seems like a 17% penalty compared to +6 but milo passive alone more than makes up for it
or dahlia rebuff or dahlia rain or -6 as soon as you apply any one of those
WOOO
funny
Why do you have level 141 Barry?
@warped gulch should i bother with 3/5 exr dahlia, 3/5 exr chase, and 3/5 exr nc blue or use dahlia nc blue with 1/5 hlillie
Chase + Blue has a lot of rng
And 4/5 Dahlia has -2 Sync CD on Max Move helps reduce it a lot
So i think Chase + Lillie is way better than Chase + NC Blue
^
too late to be worrying about the latter
unless you get a run with lillie that you want to improve further
2-3 fishes for superduper 4 a few times
How would chase plus lillie play out?
I got all dc pairs 2-3/5 but still haven’t gotten dc marnie

chase is a little similar but you're using evasion to make up for slower setup and reactive passives
but kanto circle is multiplicative instead of blue's additive passive so if you can get same number of syncs you'll get a bigger boost
and evasion gets the potential to fit in an extra sync as well but that depends on comp
I’m a new 3/5 chase haver and am unfamiliar with using him in dc
grid team grand entry and both mprs, you can use x spa at max boost to fail and boost speed+eva slightly faster
There’s a clear with 5/5 10e dahlia chase and melony
basically going to be the same as h lillie except lillie is less demanding on gauge if there's any trouble supplying it and has the potential to provide seun though it's somewhat slow so you're usually either not using it or using it just once for last sync
and sprint ex helps ofc

the difference between melony and h lillie is always going to be exactly that
Eh decent enough for me
My sync move went out at 00:00:00 
DC moment
hate wave burned Barry twice
no seun yet
3m is not at all happening lol, wasn't aiming for it anyway
Just Giacomo things
Also my Eri is 10/5 rn bc favorite
I was prepared to select scout him, but Elio blocked me from ever getting Selene on their double banner 

So Selene it is
Lmao
Hate Wave things
Red still has nightmares of it
Also slightly related but I like the 10/5 Eri
One sync off
After 10/5 Anni Raihan I still have no idea who next
On 2nd attempts
welcome to hate wave
missed 2 sync crits
Miss one sync crit 
cant afford soften up on a dark grid
Yo congrats
Missed two out of three sync crits 😒
I’m guessing 2/5 Masked Royal is my best option for Dark ST if I EX him? Pecking order might take too long to set up
Lodge Cheren might be better if you’re willing to invest in him
Worth considering since his setup doesn’t seem bad
may be able to trade last seun for another sync, had seun for last sync and second dark pulse at end
How to use Giacomo :
theres gotta be a better option here than nc blue like steven. idk what he brings to the table
+30% to syncs just for existing basically, or more specifically 20% additive from his own passive and +10% to circle
and good speed stat to ensure dark void spam works without umbral acceleration
also he speeds up chase setup a bit
Hmm
yeah likely is
still is the possibility of pushing out 7th sync with this team that i'm not sure any other can accomplish
well throwing in a sing spammer would always make it possible but you drop all of blue's passive buffs
Wat grid you have on cyrus?
How much do the enemy's stats have to be lowered to max out power play
18
Ok i have extra energy on him so can pick zone extention
Or its no need zone is up too end?
he has field exr so idk if you even need it
field ex overwrites it and is better anyway
equivalent of extension 5, +50 seconds and extension 3 is 30
extra energy should go toward dark pulse tiles really, there's also a +5 spa tile in there
Absurd amount of RNG, a lot of dodges and paras. Gettin Archer's X attack MPR to pop. Redlax having enough TMs to SEUN ALL of Archer's syncs, Archer critting.
Ooh Redlax
I was thinking of still using Larry with him
I'll probably still use Larry given how I already saw your result lol
gauge starts to suck when you push for 7th sync so i'm gridding umbral acceleration since i'm dropping super prep anyway
Yes
alright good
once you can afford to candy blue to 3/5 the -2 def and -2 spdef on sync will help a lot for everything
Steel triple in super sparring
Nice
I will finally be able to hit 500k in a super sparring
Yea I saw that run, but don't have the units












