Damage Challenge

[fiery rose]

Tbh redlax's para is kinda unreliable, I think HJasmine has guaranteed or virtually so?

[normal parcel]

Maybe if they give her sprint Rolex, she may be optimal in some comps

[fiery rose]

But that's largely just devil's advocate

[normal parcel]

Yes but reactive

[plush palm]

lol @ old seasonal units getting anything

dont think its happening

maybe when they finally run out of PF units to rolex next momth

but even then i dont see it happening

[fiery rose]

Tbh I can see it happening next year as the banners get rerun

[normal parcel]

Generally chase and NC blue are better options than her

She's good, but never the best option

[plush palm]

Sc steven too for seup

[normal parcel]

Steven lacks paralysis

[plush palm]

true i guess

still better for physical units

or cakewalk enabling

[normal parcel]

If you really need cakewalk, definitely, but lack of paralysis is pretty detrimental

[plush palm]

depends on the comp bc some already have status

[normal parcel]

If the comp has status already then is fine

[worldly tapir]

What??
Mine barely 1m. Do you have video?

How your rotation?

[vernal condor]

im uploading it as we speak

but 1m is way too low lol

[normal parcel]

What's the best 3/5 SS Hilda score?

[worldly tapir]

I dont know why, maybe my rotation

[normal parcel]

Lack of soften up is really annoying for SS hilda

[robust parrot]

Is the Hop fight immune to burn?

[vernal condor]

none of the dc stages are immune to anything

[robust parrot]

I couldnt burn any of them with Arc Leon. Weird

Oh im dumb

Nvm

They were para'd

[plush palm]

best one uses nc leaf apparently

[fallen trail]

this stage buffing its def sucks for ss hilda

missing a crit on any of the 3 makes her damage wayyyy worse

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/kq6mV-4aPpM

[inner parcel]

Funni number

[fallen trail]

i’d be tight lowkey

[vernal condor]

just get 1 more point 5head

[plush palm]

pushed an extra 5k

still cant get in the last v create at the end

the seup passive activates and wastes the last 0.5 second left

[warped gulch]

You used V Create ?

[plush palm]

not using burn on this grid

dont have marnie so no point

[warped gulch]

I always use Searing Shot as my last move

[plush palm]

huh nice

tbf im running her w/ colress rather than leaf so v create probably does more

no spdef buffs

[warped gulch]

[azure vine]

I barely manage to get 500k with 1/5 ss Hilda and 1/5 ss morty

is it skill issue or is 1/5 that bad? both are exr

I use colress as my 3rd teammate

[plush palm]

1/5 has no multipliers

silvers better for this iirc

w/ PB ofc

[azure vine]

Ah that’s the only va unit that’s not maxed for me

Joined in 2022 but didn’t play between the two annis

[plush palm]

ex?

migjt still be better weirdly enough

[azure vine]

no ex

no pb

silver is just plain 5/5

[vagrant ivy]

same

[azure vine]

I kinda wish this dc ran next week

Nc leaf and all

[plush palm]

idk why they stopped rerunning those events every month

[azure vine]

Same reason they put tickets instead of gems last January

In the rerun missions

to lower the gem count

[plush palm]

The most boring kind of greedy behavior

[vagrant ivy]

am i still the only person who unironically uses ny wallace for this

[plush palm]

gotta keep praying for that 10% jackpot

[vagrant ivy]

10 SMUN is far less than 10%

i roll for SMUN at the start and take anything greater than +3

since i circle 4 times later in the run it'd only take +6 smun to have a fully maxxed b move after the last sync

and the SEUN from max move is a further 1 in 6

[plush palm]

rip

gl

[vagrant ivy]

already bumped the score up to 2.5m from 2.1m last time

after having all of that happen

so i think i'll take a break

in ranked dc i did 1.9m with him using bp barry melony

he's far from the worst fire striker out there but is outclassed by every other premium fire striker barring non 10/5 ss red

[plush palm]

10/5 ss red didnt get sun extension fo some reason

its dumb

[ivory kestrel]

In a NC Leaf - SS Hilda (4/5) - NC Rosa comp, does Hilda reach max stats for Rising Tide with 2 uses of NC Rosa TM? Does Rosa need to grid Precision Pals?

[plush palm]

she gets herself to +16 off the bat so

only need +2

i use her w/ morty

1 rosa tm should be enough

+2 speed is all she needs

[ivory kestrel]

thanks, i'm still trying if the additional use of her TM (for the extra boost on Searing Shot at the end) will be better

[plush palm]

hilda gets +6 atk +6spatk +3crit +1 acc btw

so +16

[feral hamlet]

I got 700k on this one last time. Hoping I can get more with Arc Leon now

[acoustic chasm]

Bruh I hate how sun messes with my sleep spam

The game is so laggy that singing somehow eats up more time per sync cycle?

Like, I've seen the SS Hilda / NC Leaf / NC Rosa clear and that uses a lot of Leer + Leaf's B move and still manages 4 Hilda syncs

I'm just unable to get 4 syncs AT ALL if I use more than 3 Leers

[royal jolt]

I don't have enough orbs to get SS Red +2E for an easier time getting 1M

[cloud timber]

who's your sun setter

[acoustic chasm]

NC Leaf

[cloud timber]

well needing specifically -2 means going for soften up, both sun tiles, sync nodes, and haymaker and you can fit in burn for h lillie regardless so that should end up being the team

[cloud timber]

only potential fix is to turn the graphics settings on low if you haven't already and stay at min speed to minimize lag influence

close other apps

[acoustic chasm]

It's already at low
I'm cooked (by the sun) 💀
I can try rebuff only with more Leers

[azure vine]

what did people get with nc leaf as main dd

[icy pendant]

my log of my old clears from last cycle shows 1.8m with redlax elio

[azure vine]

hm

shouldve grabbed redlax instead of lucas

[cloud timber]

yeah gonna have to settle for less unless you can afford a better phone most likely

[cloud timber]

there was no way of knowing dc was going to be a thing back when that was an option so lucas was still the correct pick at the time i guess assuming you had neither

chase or nc blue + melony or h lillie should end up better anyway, if you have none of the limited options ideally you're prioritizing blue and chase over redlax still

[teal haven]

Need to get my sshilda past 2/5

[acoustic chasm]

Literally p2w smh

[cloud timber]

fr

even h lillie is a better overall pick than redlax

i believe it tends to be androids that have performance issues with this game, luckily ran into very few with iphone/ipad

i don't care much for branding stuff but it's still relevant enough to mention lol

blame dena

[faint quiver]

They did not optimize the game for Android.
With more features being added, it just gets laggier every update.
The loading screen take so much longer these days.

[azure vine]

oh Ill have nc blue alright

but that supereffective next is not something you find with him unfortunately

ig the team sync move is pretty neat but its only 20% if Im not mistaken

[azure vine]

I think its not every android or is it?

I feel like its more a problem with the phone's hardware

since android is a very broad term you know

you could have your motorolas or your s24

[cloud timber]

blue consistently gets out higher sync count with melony so that with his passive and debuffs on sync and one click setup for special attacker buffs

makes nc blue + melony one of the historically best pairs

very frequently above whatever redlax is managing unless damage dealer happens to carry gauge enough for redlax + melony

h lillie is better for nearly everything these days compared to melony but even with gauge being less of an issue blue's still frequently wanted over redlax

[azure vine]

can nc blue quad queue?

[rain copper]

Yes

[azure vine]

he has the same problem arc suits have but he puts rebuff with passive

instead of multi role

oh

[cloud timber]

arc suits can too after their first sync

[azure vine]

yeah but

can nc blue do it on his first sync

[cloud timber]

yes

[rain copper]

It's arc suits' problem

[azure vine]

lil balance nerf to them

[cloud timber]

exclusive to multi role

annoying thing but hardly gamechanging

and not relevant to dc

[azure vine]

was thinking since you sometimes want to get to the first dd sync before enemy gets to his first

so dd deals more damage

thats especially an issue in triple

[cloud timber]

unsure when that would be the case, never something i needed to track

i suppose ssr cynthia needs earlier sync to save seun but that's about it

[azure vine]

dont you deal more damage that way?

[icy pendant]

enemy sync is just an offensive damage multiplier no?

it shouldn't multiply defensive stats in any way

[azure vine]

really?

didnt know about that

[cloud timber]

yeah it's a pure offensive multiplier

[feral hamlet]

Just casually got a better score than last time. But now what will it take to reach 1M?

[icy pendant]

well Melony over Arc Leon on that team is already 1m-able, so you should have negative trouble hitting it with an aoe sync

[cloud timber]

just give levels

112 isn't going to do you any favors

[drifting mesa]

Kind of a random question, but is there any way to get over 1 mil on flying weak stage with 1 enemy

Best i coukd think is ex role 3/5 anni skyla

[drifting mesa]

I used arc Leon, Chase and NC rosa foe 1 mil

If you change Chase for NC blue i think you coukd reach 1 mil too

[warped gulch]

You can check the doc for it

But Anni Skyla can reach 1m without Exr

Also the best one for it is Gloria (Alt 2)

[drifting mesa]

And the Leaf for Melomy

[drifting mesa]

Don't got Gloria unfortunately

[drifting mesa]

Thanks

[feral hamlet]

Hmm, but what's Rosa doing here that NC Leaf isn't?

[brazen dew]

Nc cheren can also get 1m

[cloud timber]

lodge skyla can do it even

[brazen dew]

3v1?

[drifting mesa]

Spamming sing

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjFX5u2Z0I

[brazen dew]

Damn

[cloud timber]

3/5 anni skyla is very privileged

[acoustic chasm]

Ok nice, sunless still got 3M

[tiny mist]

what is a good arc leon team for this battle?

Highest dps possible

[cloud timber]

v marnie + ss ingo is highest possible, clear sheet has more teams and details

well i guess the only ones in the sheet are that team

[feral hamlet]

I managed 1M with my previous team before trying this. It's virtually the same outcome. Maybe a little easier to do because I needed that clutch second Leon sync in the first team to pull it off

I guess sun, stat down, and the extra rebuff makes up for the 2 fewer sync boosts

[tiny mist]

shall we go for burn with leon?

or does that make everything too slow?

[cloud timber]

you need to, to set his multiplier

scorching sync 9

if it's like 5 or less it's worth burning 2 or less but with 9 you're burning all 3

[tiny mist]

so I should use his max move to set the burn on all 3?

or inferno?

[cloud timber]

you have ingo and videos to use

[tiny mist]

Can you share a video link?

My ss ingo is 1/5

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPG0CTJBsHU

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=024500081500&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13010602&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFDxASFRobHB8iKCssLQ&v1=024704000600&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=4444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBgcICQoNEBEUFhocHiAhIicoMjM&v2=010802060900&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFDBUYGhweISIlKSotMDM

high move levels naturally but you can adapt something

[tiny mist]

Tysm

oh wait i dont have ss ingo

i havs sc ingo 🤣

[cloud timber]

lol

[tiny mist]

What is a good alternative for ingo and marnie in this?

I assume ssmorty shall be one, what about the other

[cloud timber]

h lillie or melony

[tiny mist]

okayyyy tysm

[cloud timber]

np

[tiny mist]

so I burn with leon max move?

or shall I use 3 infernos ?

[cloud timber]

max move doesn't burn i think, only sets fire damage field unless there's some other effect that causes it

which is very detrimental

[tiny mist]

oh ok

[royal jolt]

Red kindaaaaa... 😭

+2E for Solar Flare 5 would fix it
But, I've no orbs to spare for it

[warped gulch]

Even f2p Silver got like half more than it

[cloud timber]

you can drop a sync node and grab solar flare no

[vagrant ivy]

you can

[vast glade]

True. His SA is really dissapointing and somewhat barebones

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQIQ--whXw i'd like to think leaf can do better

this was with ss morty, +0e

could easily be involving heat wave burn fishing though to get in sing spam

[royal jolt]

Yup 😭

[vagrant ivy]

he peaked at 1.7m f2p with lyra and colress 😭

[cloud timber]

ss red isn't actually worse though

but needs better supports

[warped gulch]

How much Red can get with f2p team ?

[cloud timber]

worse

[warped gulch]

[vagrant ivy]

mine's only 3/5

hmmm

what could i try

[warped gulch]

Tbf Silver has both Sun and SEUN

[cloud timber]

basically you're looking at elio and any sun setter like blaine or dc tierno

elio can max haymaker for first sync

[vagrant ivy]

dc tierno isn't EXd

rip me

still probably better than blaine tho

more 10% burn shenanignas

[cloud timber]

blaine might be better lol

idk how much time sunburst takes but it's useless

without 3/5 you have worse burn odds

better to not use his field ex anyway

[vagrant ivy]

for hostile environment and kanto ts yeah ig

[cloud timber]

also might be best to settle for not grinding for elio mpr

[vagrant ivy]

i used ny wallace to support flint to 900k but he's not f2p sadly

would be a great way to max out ss red's spatk

[plush palm]

blain needs ex

[cloud timber]

wouldn't do anything here and might not be enough for 1m but h lillie could be the difference maker

[plush palm]

like idk why he doesnt have it

he def gets more out of it than ex clair and she got one

[cloud timber]

neglected old units

[vagrant ivy]

they're gonna give molayne an EX before blaine

basically every remaining genpool that's not EX'd is irrelevant

so it's possible that they just choose at random

or if they got an alt in the same month (gardenia)

[vagrant ivy]

done

no +e no maxed haymaker at only +4 atk

if he hits more crits this would be 1.3m

but you do need -3 spdef from sparkling aria

4 syncs with red in total

[cloud timber]

you should have maxed haymaker after red's first sync though

bc you can top up with red tm

[ivory kestrel]

I can’t seem to beat my previous high of 3.4M. Maybe crit or damage rolls stuff

[vapid kernel]

Damn searing shot 400K

[normal parcel]

Is Rosa better than Lillie?

[plush palm]

probably depends on comp

rosa cant give SEUP

[still hearth]

True but in SS Hilda’s case she gives herself SEUP each sync from her grid

[plush palm]

yep

certain non hilda comps could use it

[acoustic chasm]

Lillie can give supp EX without wasting time with a B move like Rosa

[plush palm]

unfortunately needs B move for SEUP tho

[normal parcel]

However Lillie can give seup for 1st Hilda and leaf syncs with 1 use

[acoustic chasm]

I mean you don't need to
But it's useful if you can fit

[normal parcel]

You still want the +2 speed

[acoustic chasm]

Her TM can do that

[normal parcel]

Yes if you can get an extra sync with tm instead of b move, I guess is worth

Guess still faster than b relic song

Maybe SC Steven 1st b leer speed

[vapid kernel]

Rosa can top up some stats but most likely u dont need tht

Shes also good for setting up Rising Tide syncs just cus of the extra +2 stats

[warped gulch]

The reason i used her mostly bc i need speed so +4 speed just really needed for me

Also +5 SMUN

Master Passive

And Hilda already gives herself SEUN

I also didn’t sync with rosa so

[normal parcel]

This is the best I managed to get with Lillie, still short compared to 3.3m I got last rotation with Rosa, but maybe I got better crit luck

[scenic grotto]

Probably not as high because of gear and how I have gridded NC Leaf

[craggy pond]

ok. what on earth. i drop off following dc for a while and now people are doing 9mil+ clears

i guess all three of the pairs involved are new pairs and it's powered by ungabunga striker arc pair Leon but. i did not expect that

[scenic grotto]

*and now Arc Leon is doing 9mil+ clears

[plush palm]

Arc units are just that busted yeah

Honestly i aint sold on them

not bc theyre bad but bc theyre boring

number go up. wallet go down

[scenic grotto]

I only pulled Arc Leon because fire type damage, that is all
Arc Cynthia is just power creep OG Cynthia
Arc Steven is the most interesting of the four

[craggy pond]

yeah i agree

i pulled arc Steven only

[plush palm]

yep thats why i dropped a couple spare gems on steven

[craggy pond]

and honestly in part it's because i had ss Lear

need to make funny steel team

he is generally useful though

last year i only pulled nc blue also

so pretty similar

[plush palm]

fair

hope you have rei amd akari

[scenic grotto]

My only hope is that water arc unit is support EXR with rain caller
The only other type of Arc unit I might pull for is a support EXR that can max crit, attack, and speed faster than Hilbert

[craggy pond]

i do :) i have all hisui base units

only hisui pair i don't have is sc adaman

[cloud timber]

i was hesistant on arc steven for a while but he is still nice to have, arc lance is actually a bit boring

and in the end they're still all asset flips

and hard to distinguish from the originals at a glance from their small icon

they're not worth a 500 point pity if you don't need to have the strongest stuff out there

nc blue is broken in more fun ways

[fluid anvil]

Steven is just physical NC blue
none of them are "interesting", but Cynthia and Steven are hard to skip due to how strong they are

[civic island]

almost

[normal parcel]

Wanted to try Rosa comp, but Hilda doesn't have soften up, and every attempt at 3/5 takes like 1 hour of searing shots, because the burn chance is so bad

[plush palm]

man og leon really is mediocre

[normal parcel]

10% of arc suit output

[civic island]

It's so bad

Not even max investment csn save him

[vernal condor]

how is it this low lmao

exr that marnie

[normal parcel]

For DC you need nukers, and og Leon nuke sucks, terrible multiplier, no innate, burn sucks in dc

[civic island]

Og Leon

[normal parcel]

Leon at home

[civic island]

And was the "good run"
I fished for SE and rekindle

[cloud timber]

og leon has nearly nothing

[normal parcel]

Silver should be better

[cloud timber]

scorching sync 5 for sync only

[civic island]

Yeah def better

[cloud timber]

just seuns

[normal parcel]

I mean you can't expect much with scorching sync 5 In dc

[scenic grotto]

I just personally can’t justify pulling Arc Steven
Yes he’s a great tank but I have plenty of Attack/Crit buffers and Def/Sp. Def buffers
and I just remembered that Fall Caitlin with her unique lucky skill makes her a better Hilbert

[normal parcel]

Not much attack/CRIT buffers are that durable

[cloud timber]

literally nothing is nearly as durable

[scenic grotto]

Indeed, Arc Steven is THE tank unit

[normal parcel]

Wondering 3/5 arc Leon how much would have scored without Marnie (and what's the 3rd unit?)

[vernal condor]

ingo

because of course it's ingo

[civic island]

4M

Or around that, marnie defensive circle isnt doing much

[normal parcel]

Not bad considering with Hilda I can't break 3.3m, and Hilda is painful to use

[vernal condor]

well it's still 15%

[normal parcel]

While Leon I think doesn't involve that much RNG

[civic island]

This is w marnie just for sun (no exr)

[normal parcel]

If only Hilda had soften up, it would have been much less painful to use

Searing shot without hostile environment Just takes too much resets each attempt

And I guess if an unit is already statused, searing shot still takes full AOE debuffs for the burn chance

[azure vine]

How

5/5 should get you so much more

[cloud timber]

base leon bad

[spiral halo]

or Leon is just that bad

[azure vine]

Oh it’s base lmao

why does he have 5/5 base leon too lol

[cloud timber]

xd

[civic island]

Fav

I basically invest mostly on them lol

Too bad arc suits require omni

are not sustainable

[sacred badger]

are you like waiting for when DeNa announces Superawakenings for Master Fairs? :<

[civic island]

~~by being real, nothing can save Archie or Leon ~~

[civic island]

They won't dare... i hope

[sacred badger]

i think archie and maxie would be good for Power Boost tiles.

[civic island]

But i'd like to have a Dark Suit Archie

[sacred badger]

(And Anni Steven)

[cloud timber]

good places to start for mf buffs yea

[plush palm]

wish theyd give the MFs straight 3/5 grid expansions

not betting on it tho

bc dena is greedy

[civic island]

Probably ye, the only mf that got a buff is 🥁

And it still sucks

[sacred badger]

the biggest concern would be Anni Steven rerun gives him TECH EXR.

[azure vine]

only way to save anni steven is a direct buff to his stats

[civic island]

Hoenn tech candy course

[azure vine]

give him +200 spa and +200 atk

only way

[cloud timber]

steven needs everything including rising tide

[azure vine]

And tbh that still wouldn’t be enough

imo

[civic island]

Suffers from mega penalty

[sacred badger]

honestly, if he gets Rising Tide, TECH EXR, he'd probably hit harder than Blue with full buffs. assuming you spam his moves a lot.

[normal parcel]

I guess anni Steven only purpose is to use it in stages that require you to keep removing weather (and you still need 3/5)

[cloud timber]

that one tile is his sole niche yeah

definitely can be useful though

[dry whale]

Been a bit busy but got enough time to get some runs in. Only one buffed sync , you would need two para procs if you want to fit in an extra Lillie b move.

Side note I did do a triple buffed sync nuke run and that got me a 2.7m because of the damage cap.

https://youtu.be/BH0f2CabXvQ

[ivory kestrel]

Is H-Lillie that good to replace Melony? Or only in select comps?

[plush palm]

better i think

she has speed buffs and seup on the b move

fewer gauge issues

and sprint / support ex

not sure why youd ever use melony again if you have her

unless you want spdef buffs for some reason

[icy pendant]

lillie also has 120 more speed than melony (a bit under 50% more) so yeah

[civic island]

Gauge accel my beloved

[icy pendant]

even just being reductive and saying lillie is melony but fast should be compelling assuming equal access to both

[plush palm]

i guess melony can help top off spdef mults and crit

thats all

[misty forge]

Yeah her bigger upside is the +1 crit on entry

[plush palm]

kind of a weird edge case thi

[misty forge]

Not at all if you aren't running nc blue with her imo

[plush palm]

dont even have lillie or nc blue atm

nc blue better show up soon

[plush palm]

the wait for kantrio 2.0 is getting obnoxiously painful

[normal parcel]

I would say Lillie is always better unless you really need that CRIT buff

[plush palm]

or need buff for brute wits

[still hearth]

Single dragon

My weakness

[true locust]

Lillie is better like 95% off times but melony have one big advantage its free unit:) and in 50% runs score will be same just more rng whit melony

[safe prawn]

Lillie has also 2 special stacks on sync if 3/5 btw

[plush palm]

single dragon kinda requires lucas or as lance i think?

i forgot the others

good thing i have exr lucas

[glad kraken]

CIris should be good enough for 1m

[plush palm]

dont have lance so idkhow high the top scorres will be this time

[safe prawn]

Arc Lance+lilie+lucas might be

[ivory kestrel]

but with H-Lillie, you wouldn't want to grid for Trouble-maker correct? iirc, you dont want trouble maker on your sing spammer. I check her grid, there are no Sing accuracy tiles, you want Sing to hit and fail, rather than missing, correct?

[cloud timber]

pinpoint entry 2 tests were slower than control tests with no relevant lucky skill

slower than basically the amount of time that it takes to pop up the skill

[plush palm]

why again?

[cloud timber]

accuracy doesn't matter on fail

the belief that it did was useful in convincing me to get used to min speed at least

means lillie is very safely a better option at pure sing spam than melony

[cloud timber]

even without enemy queue there's still some random variance in timing so i can't tell for certain whether bp barry or colress is faster with their respective gauge refill passive

stupid game tbh

erika stun spore, colress twave, and max move from argenta (no entry passives) returned 2:50:87 three times in a row, for the same thing with bp barry it's random

2:50:89, 74, 78, 84, 88, 83, 84

slower on average but not exclusively

https://youtu.be/cJNI1IKVkSw the three colress tests and four of the bp barry tests

they're different enough in actual role that the timing difference matters less since bp barry is for support ex and colress is for aoe para/screech but very annoying that there's randomness

assuming you even need to use infliction freebie which you won't with nc bianca

there is at least a varying amount of gauge refill from bp barry so that might be the cause

on another test using sst red's max move to set para there's variance there for some reason but the difference between that and after gaugeless para is more consistently 2.61 across both but still some randomness

someone can go back and test sing again to see how much randomness that has lol

i don't think i have perfect accuracy on barry but the fact that there's that many different results means there is more to it than that if that even remains a factor

https://youtu.be/4W2cQCqDu1k for more proof

[cloud timber]

sing, using the same timing which includes max countdown 3 delay, is more consistently coming at 2.06 difference or i got that 3 times in a row and then 2.05 on the fourth attempt

so you're saving about 0.55 per sing vs bp barry/colress

though you need to spend time with other methods to keep gauge up

[civic island]

Noice
Free from ppe2 curse

[stoic crest]

What is the best option for this? I am assuming arc Leon? I have stuff like champion blue. Please ping me

[civic island]

1/5 arcLeon isnt doing much
but you got 3/5 ncLeaf exr that should be your best option imo

#1255888121648644197 message

Or, Silver / ssRed teams from the doc

[stoic crest]

Can I use melony instead of the holiday Lillie?

[civic island]

Sure
you'll just need to raise speed at some point

[cloud timber]

chase might still be better and if you're only syncing with one of them and not using lillie's seun it could make lillie's advantages entirely irrelevant

there's some reasoning for blue over chase but no idea what it is

other than not wanting to put up with evasion which might be it

kanto theme for circle though

[stoic crest]

Oh yeah that makes sense

[teal haven]

with SShilda, do you bother buffing the stats as much as possible?

I assume you dont bother with burning

[icy pendant]

don’t the grids take scorching sync therefore you burn?

also someone like NC Blue already gives Hilda 15/18 of the stats you need to max Rising Tide

[plush palm]

hilda only needs +2

she buffs herself to +16

+12 spatk and atk +3 crit +1 acc

[teal haven]

whats the max for rising tide?

[plush palm]

+18

she doesnt need a lot

[teal haven]

does crit rate count?

[plush palm]

yws

[teal haven]

so with one discharge and her t-move thats +17

oh the acc

+18

nice

[royal jolt]

How effective is 3/5 Arc Cyn in 3v3 ground?

[vagrant ivy]

very

hits 4mil iirc

if not more

[royal jolt]

Shoot
I gotta have her then
I was debating between candying her to 3/5 or Arc Lance to 4/5 for single dragon

[sacred badger]

for my single dragon, i'm going to be running Dialga xD

[royal jolt]

I'm probably gonna use a combination of SC Steven and maybe BP Barry for Arc Lance

[cloud timber]

at least 6.5m for 3/5 arc cynthia

[vagrant ivy]

lmao alt iris 1.7m is the highest run logged for dragon ST

[rain copper]

Lmao Hop & Pincurchin next month

rip Dubwool

[long silo]

Besties I am tired

[fallen trail]

legendary gauntlet died for this

[pallid girder]

Shauna: "just why?" It seems they're delaying f2p dragon zone lol.

[loud cedar]

lear SA

i mean

10/5

god that is a bad abbreviation

[cloud timber]

yeah i like to avoid that one lol

[long silo]

I either use 10/5 or Woke lol

[true locust]

We have datamine?

[long silo]

Anyways what did Lear get

Yes

[true locust]

He new ranked?

No lg?

[long silo]

Also yes

[true locust]

Jesus

[loud cedar]

hs1, more scaling+scaling for team

[long silo]

Oh 👀

[true locust]

Give me a break from ranked

We now wat types ranked?

[loud cedar]

the passive where you do more damage when no stats raised on the opponent

[cloud timber]

dunno what else this banner could be for so it could be dark/rock/steel

[loud cedar]

dark im fucked, rock and steel i can get high scores on

[vagrant ivy]

triple rock triple steel single dark?

[pallid girder]

10/5 SS Wally gets "Powers up the moves of all allied sync pairs when the zone is a Fairy Zone."
Fairy team will rival with Arc Leon with this!

[vagrant ivy]

only for the last b move...

[cloud timber]

fairy team is h lillie + ss gladion which is 5 b moves

[long silo]

Probs select

[true locust]

Yes we have select pokefairs 3 baner

[hidden junco]

Hmm, we don't want spam moves to give Move Ups, right?

Because Giovanni would have Stockpile with +3 SyMUN and +1 PMUN/SMUN

[cloud timber]

if it's the existing stages it's all single

dark, rock, steel

[olive wraith]

Bianca:dark1,fly3 Gladion:psychic1,rock3 Shauna:dragon1,steel3

[cloud timber]

oh pastebin may have mislabeled

that is a thing

so dark 1 rock 3 steel 3 is accurate

[vagrant ivy]

man i really hope i get my 3/5 ss diantha out in time

[spiral halo]

sounds about right based on this banner

[vagrant ivy]

also this appears to be the first dedicated DC banner

for super sparring

[rain copper]

isn't that the strike select banner

[spiral halo]

isnt galar variety first

[cloud timber]

could be but dark/rock/steel is aligning very well

[fallen trail]

this passive w spammable stockpile and infliction freebie 9

i think we can deduce what happens

[cloud timber]

i missed the 3x part

it's 2 stockpile animations to max

[fallen trail]

yea

obv the passive activating will eat time

but he gives the nuker +10 sync up next every sync

so that might make up for it

[cloud timber]

also guarded entry 3 at 3/5 reduces it to 1

[fallen trail]

he's not the fastest spammer, but the damage boosts he provides might make up for it

we'll see ig

[true locust]

Gio spamer🤣

Hah

[cloud timber]

2 gauge will hurt

[true locust]

Wat gio is strike? Or wat

[pallid girder]

He can also be Aaron’s partner ig.

[cloud timber]

supp/field

[loud cedar]

gio support

[vagrant ivy]

ehhhh

[true locust]

Sup good field is dark?

[vagrant ivy]

he has infliction freebie 9 as a bare minimum

[loud cedar]

yah

[vagrant ivy]

also team FT9 and MGA on t move iirc

[true locust]

Hmm maybe then replace cyrus

In team

[cloud timber]

outside of dark he'll prob suffer too many delays and gauge issues to work as just a self-sustaining spammer

[true locust]

Dena cut lg

So no try hard next ranked need save cookies🤣

[cloud timber]

but with the new take next all thing he can eliminate chase reactive passive issues if you ever end up using them together

[true locust]

Gio have this new passive?

[vagrant ivy]

no

[true locust]

This passive good for hse dc is pointles

[cloud timber]

not exactly a passive but an effect, a status change specifically

within his tm

[fallen trail]

thats not useful for dc

[true locust]

Yeap you still get hit

[pallid girder]

Will it? Is the time loss on doing extra TM you dont really need to click better than time loss on Chase's healing?

[true locust]

You never use chase and gio in team

We have h lillie for chase

[long silo]

I have joined

[cloud timber]

it has offensive buffs so it's not like it only does one thing

[long silo]

#gacha-and-flex message

[cloud timber]

idk i'm not the one who brought up gio as dc relevant in the first place

but if you're trying to make it happen it's a potential thing

[true locust]

For dark stage maybe he can be good but its all

Since you never sync whit him outside dark dc

[cloud timber]

yeah zone good

[true locust]

So put him is kinda meh in others team

[cloud timber]

the rest? ehh...

[true locust]

Only dark dc

Rest is others types

Why you need dark zone lol for others type

He have some zone acceleration in grid like cyrus?

[vagrant ivy]

yeah he's a way to sell the dark DC later in the month

[cloud timber]

he can stockpile spam in theory and gets 1 symun per but it's 2 gauge and suffers delay for that

team fast track 9 for gauge but that's its own delay

[vagrant ivy]

otherwise i don't see dark field being useful

and the other stuff doesn't justify running him over melony/hlillie in other places

...right?

[true locust]

Yes

2 gauge spam is never great

[pallid girder]

Gio + Aaron in no status rule? You still get support sync from Aaron and Gio provide some syncup if you dont want sync with him.

[vagrant ivy]

inb4 no status/interference param for the ranked DC this month

[cloud timber]

aaron is not more useful than chase

well

if damage dealer is giacomo he's not benefitting from special circle

but who's the actual third there

[thin wren]

ss gio will be incredible in dc

instant statusless spam 1-2 moves

[pallid girder]

Im talking about SSAG's possible general use.
Now Aaron is mostly paired with SS Morty or SSAC, but Gio is an upgrade if the team dont need sun or fighting zone bc those also consume time.

[cloud timber]

lodge dawn is the best pure aaron support for having evasion tbh

he has infliction freebie and it's probably better to be using that rather than not

not impossible that ssag/aaron comes into play when aaron can get around gio's delays when there's gauge to spare

but outside of dark i'd take lodge dawn of the two

[safe prawn]

Wdym we get another dc but still no lg

How the heck am I supposed to hs1 my units

[vagrant ivy]

LG in februrary trust

[true locust]

Lg is most like never happend🤣

[pallid girder]

They shouldve put purple cookies in the training area before...

[true locust]

Prob new event coming

[timid tree]

the new gio is perfect for archer hohoho . just a couple more months until I can have my revenge on dark mt……….

[cloud timber]

submitted my 2.39m lucas run from last dragon single so doc can have something better than iris alt (botched levels/lucas exr fuck)

[sullen zephyr]

Will Gio be able to spam stockpile

[cloud timber]

with infliction freebie yeah, without it no gauge

[sullen zephyr]

Can gauge support help?

Oh boy he has infliction freebie

[thin wren]

I feel like chase could allow passiveless spam

[sullen zephyr]

2 SyMUN with every move too

[cloud timber]

it's always possible that chase allows that but it's also an awful speed stat to work with too

[thin wren]

oh wait his passive will trigger anyways

nvm infliction freebie won't add much time then

[cloud timber]

should be adding the same amount of time infliction freebie normally adds

[sullen zephyr]

I think symun can probably make up for the extra time loss

Unless i underestimate the symun animation

[cloud timber]

not sure symun is worth the animation

it's 10% per and a lot of it is going to the early syncs which aren't dealing much anyway

we'll see how much time it takes

also just noticed 5/5 ssag gets pmun/smun per stockpile so full giacomo enabler

[long silo]

Just to confirm again

HoLillie is okay at 1/5 right

[pallid girder]

For spam only, yes.

For 8M fairy team, you need 3/5.

[olive wraith]

Guzzlord seems to be a new spammer

can provide 10 Sync Move Booster every Sync

[sullen zephyr]

fairy's at 8M now huh

neat

[sacred badger]

will depend on like..... things. he can stack SMUNs for the entire team too if you 5/5'd him....

[long silo]

Thanks

[royal jolt]

🥹

Gauntlet is freaking dead

[cunning rock]

Just need EXR to be a better sing spammer than Melony really.

[royal jolt]

What are the typings for the new super sparring?

[cloud timber]

dark 1, rock 3, steel 3

[royal jolt]

Ay dios mio...

I think I'm hosed

Steel 3 is my only good stage

[long silo]

My best Dark 3v1 is Archer

Rock 3v3 may be my best time to 3/5 NC Silver tho (alongside HSE)

Long overdue for him and also the best time now

[pallid girder]

SS Cyrus / NC Silver / MCSol for me.

[royal jolt]

My NC Silver is still 1/5 😭

I HAD TO BREAK 1M WITH FREAKING EMMET 😭

And single dark is just... no

[long silo]

I actually did that. DPS with Emmet + NC Silver

[royal jolt]

Chat, I'm screwed 🥰

[long silo]

WE HAVE THE SAME ROCK TEAM

But ye sorry bestie I will candy Silver now

[royal jolt]

And then this is my one hope

[cloud timber]

my best for rock is still olivia so

at least i have ss cyrus and gloria

[royal jolt]

How effective is Olivia?

I have more faith in her as a nuker, but sand is a huge part of her, isn't it?

[cloud timber]

gets past the 1m mark

[pallid girder]

Gloria's 10/5:
"Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by one the first time it enters a battle each battle. Critical hits land more easily when the user attacks with a sync move. Increases the user’s Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by three ranks when its Trainer uses a move."
Will this make her beat SS Lear even without exr?

[cloud timber]

10/5 isn't doing much for her syncs, just reducing rng for crits which does help when she's also looking for 20% mprs

[royal jolt]

Oof

[cloud timber]

not huge but enough to get the job done (at least with 3/5 paulo behind her)

[royal jolt]

I hope I can at least hold on to my top 500 streak

[cunning rock]

Archer, SS Diantha, and Pal Marnie is gonna save me

[royal jolt]

Pal Marnie for triple steel?

[long silo]

Archer gaming so real

[cunning rock]

I have Arc Steven so 1M is achievable

[royal jolt]

Oh

Gotcha

Can lodge Cheren get 1M?

[cunning rock]

We don't know but we're confident that he can. He wasn't out when ST Dark rolled around

[royal jolt]

I can stick with Serena, but I'd also like to know if I have more options

[cunning rock]

The fact that he has evasion as his multiplier means he should be really solid

[royal jolt]

That's DC Cheren

[cunning rock]

Oh Goddangit. I keep mixing those two

[royal jolt]

Y e a h
I had to double-check before even asking here lmao

[cloud timber]

they're nearly the same

but lodge cheren with purrloin seems to be lacking

speedster's sync and 4 sync tiles and spdef debuffs

[royal jolt]

Yeah
Just a 50% multiplier

Wish I had Selene leveled to at least attempt it with her

[cunning rock]

Plus DC Cheren has reliable SEUN if you grid him for it. It's just tied to Double Team so it eats on time a bit

[foggy sun]

How viable does Salt Gio look for the damage challenge?

[long silo]

Salt Gio...?

[cloud timber]

ss alt

[royal jolt]

Stockpile should work like Defense Order, no?

[long silo]

Oh

[cloud timber]

he's great for maxing giacomo's b moves, otherwise dunno yet but it's not looking amazing or anything

[cunning rock]

Yeah but Stockpile is 2-bars

[cloud timber]

yeah but it's 2 bar and his speed stat is awful so he'll be relying on infliction freebie likely

[royal jolt]

O h

Never mind

[sacred badger]

does he have infliction freebie?

[cloud timber]

yes

[foggy sun]

awful?

[cunning rock]

NY Raihan would have a niche... if he wasn't so centered around Sandstorm and his para wasn't tied to his B Move

[cunning rock]

Probably slower than Colress

[cloud timber]

for dc standards when you're trying to supply gauge for a 2 bar move that you're spamming without animations you want a lot more

[sacred badger]

ewww. that far?

[cunning rock]

And it's gonna keep proccing if you spam Stockpile.

[cloud timber]

i wouldn't consider that relevant for dc bc better to just go for infliction freebie even if it was a free tile

and it'd waste time in that case

[foggy sun]

Stockpile: Move: Team Sync Move Boost ↑1 9
Infliction Freebie 9

[sacred badger]

then that's about it, unless you want to do +10SMUNs too.

[cloud timber]

we dunno how worth the symun will be but i'm not expecting it to be worth it

[cunning rock]

He's gonna see play for Dark weak DC because Dark Zone but I doubt he'll be used anywhere else

[cloud timber]

one animation per increase for 10%

could be very good for giacomo who benefits from it in more than just for syncs

[sacred badger]

the play is you can +10SyMUN at 3/5, in 5 stockpiles.... o.o; that's actually crazy.

[cloud timber]

oh you can buff it to 2

that'd help a lot

[foggy sun]

Increases the Sync Move ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by two ranks when the user’s Pokémon uses a status move.

[sacred badger]

Oh its +2?

[foggy sun]

initially

becomes +3 with grid

[sacred badger]

so 3/5 just makes him go nuts? Hrm

[cloud timber]

oh ok yeah

[sacred badger]

funny enough i have 4 support candies....

[cloud timber]

so after the 4th use in a row it'll stop trying to animate which helps stifle potential animation delay

[foggy sun]

Don't know about "Stockpile: Team Strengthening Status 9 - Increases the Physical Moves ↑ Next effect and Special Moves ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by one rank when the user’s Pokémon uses a status move." 5/5 only.

[sacred badger]

its kinda slow.

and yeah 5/5 only.

unless you want to do the entire loop of use stockpile -> use tm -> use bmove -> stockpile -> etc

[cloud timber]

that one's to max out giacomo b move

[sacred badger]

if it was +2 SMUN and +PMUN with the given Team Smart Command and Team PMUN Command

You are just going to use him for SyNUN

[foggy sun]

would you sync with Gio if he didn't have the ex role or nah?

or if he did, potentially getting rid of zone?

[sacred badger]

i mean, isn't he EX Support?

you dont have to EXR him no?

[cloud timber]

support ex is usually good to have, essential if you lack any other support exes on the team

[foggy sun]

He's support with field ex role

[cloud timber]

best giacomo team is using a grand total of 3 sync cycles but still gets 3.3m, it's faster with ssag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EweMDrOdxgM

[sacred badger]

i kinda want to get him for my f2p stuff.

[pallid girder]

Field ex effect is still less time consuming so it might be worth I assume.

[cloud timber]

setting it takes 0 time but having it run out will consume some

[scenic grotto]

So is MF Giovanni good enough to pull just for those stages that don’t allow status effects?

[pallid girder]

10/5 SS Hau gets extra et summoned from fairy zone so he can ungrid Power Plant and make better use of those energy right?

[scenic grotto]

But 3/5 cost less candies

[plush palm]

he looks really good tbh

1 stockpile to max him out

[cloud timber]

i was under the impression that it was 1 symun per stockpile but it's 2 even at base which is way different

[plush palm]

idk how much time that would use up

[pallid girder]

I mean we need to see his actual play but Oleana is also used a lot and technically cheaper (coz PF cheaper than MF)

[scenic grotto]

Right
It’s just annoying that I have 3/5 Oleana but her free move next is 5/5 and I feel like 2 candies just for free move next is a waste of candy

[cloud timber]

she isn't using twofer optimally though

[pallid girder]

^

[cloud timber]

been outside the meta for a while

twofer has

[scenic grotto]

Ok, so I shouldn’t bother pulling MF Giovanni because 3/5 Oleana is good enough for no status stages

[pallid girder]

Like I said we still need to see him action before judging.
Animation time loss is one major thing in dc but it's usually not predictable by just datamine info.

[cloud timber]

yeah it's not going to matter what anyone says when somebody else actually tries it and actually knows about it but it's not like there's much else to do here in the meantime

definitely don't need to take me or anyone else too too seriously

[safe prawn]

Do we have the rules for the super sparring?

Dark 1 rock 3 steel 3 ok

[cloud timber]

nah just logical guesses based on banner release and existing stages

to arrive at that

dunno what contains super sparring rules

or where people find it

[pallid girder]

Adaman Lucky Cookie 1
Solar Flare 4
Description: Powers up the user’s sync move when the weather is sunny.
This barely change anything right?

Only 10% more than WW3 but lose dmg boost from bmove.

[cloud timber]

it's a boost

nice to have when a lot of recent custom lucky skills have previously been not worth using at all

[vagrant ivy]

sycamore with that team fierce entry 1

[cunning rock]

Giacomo literally having Vigilance as a custom lucky skill

[cloud timber]

yeah a bunch of them aren't even exclusive

[safe prawn]

Super sparring
24/1-2/2

It’s at the end of the data

[royal jolt]

Arc Cyn just did 104k on Lucy's UB with one EQ
3v3 ground is gonna feel it 🫢

[cunning rock]

Not really... Remember that Arc Cyn is built around Sandstorm/Ground Zone. And Sandstorm alone eats away at so much time

[vagrant ivy]

she has sand blaster 4 and sand: moves and sync moves up 5

as custom LS and grid respectively

she needs it

[pallid girder]

I mean she's the first ever unit to break 7M cap until Arc Leon decided to break 10M out of nowhere and SS Gladion got boost to 8M thank to his sister.

[royal jolt]

Plus -2 Rebuff
SEUN
I don't think you can use SyncMUN much
And then the +2 PMUN

[safe prawn]

Gladion - single target (psychic weak)
Shauna - multi target steel weak
Opp immune to status and interferences
Bianca - single target dark weak
Moves -80%

[cloud timber]

ah yeah i see it now

that's the correct one

[royal jolt]

Wait there's no rock?

[long silo]

Oh ST Psychic

[plush palm]

dumb idea: new pincurchin as a spammer for people w/o sst red

[royal jolt]

Oof

[cloud timber]

sst red isn't a spammer

if you want para and electric terrain then volkner is better, he hardly has speed to spam on his own unless you happen to have chase and not nc blue

[plush palm]

ik

spammer for people who wanna use smth like regular hau or elesa for some reason

[cloud timber]

but you'd still want elio or bp barry, he's not fulfilling the spam function well on his own

[safe prawn]

https://pastebin.com/mg8aTexr

[true locust]

St psychic haha easy

Only steel will be pure dps

[pallid girder]

Last time the best steel 3v3 score was from pure DPS actually.

[true locust]

Steven and lilie was team?

[pallid girder]

Steven Lear Lillie 6.01M.

[true locust]

Ok

[vagrant ivy]

surely he does more than that

mine is 3/5 and he did 1.1m with elio/blaine

[lethal siren]

I didn't have adrenalines or head starts

Otherwise it would be more

[cloud timber]

you don't need deluxe cookies to use elio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQIQ--whXw

ss morty/aaron there

[pallid girder]

Adr or HS are almost always only nice bonus but not game changer.

[plush palm]

you activating haymaker or nah

for some reason ss red cant buff his own atk till he megas

yes its dumb

[pallid girder]

You don't give HS to the supports and suddenly 500k becomes 1M. That's not how it works.

[long silo]

[pallid girder]

You can just dodge more with Chase

[long silo]

Actually true. Chase getting hit on sub 20 sec remaining:

[vernal condor]

Giovanni is the new best spammer trust

All syncs at +9 SyMUN

Im actually half joking, he really could work well

[cloud timber]

a little slow but the symun can help and it doesn't do full animation when it's maxed which it does at 5 uses

[vernal condor]

2 not 5

he gets +3 def and spd on use

[cloud timber]

2 symun per stockpile, symun caps at 10, stockpile animation he'll only need 1 after guarded entry 3

[vernal condor]

ah yeah ok

[true locust]

Gio can be good for dark stage but need crazy gauge support

[vernal condor]

he's his own gauge support

team fast track gives speed and he got mga on tm

[true locust]

This is too long

[long silo]

Time to attempt cooking with Archer

[cloud timber]

i've been thinking it's better to just run infliction freebie, working out the gauge even with team fast track and a single mga use still doesn't seem great

[vernal condor]

you can run tm mpr

but yeah worst case infliction freebie

I think he'll at least replace Aaron in the no status stages

[long silo]

What's our no status for the upcoming DC?

[vernal condor]

?

[long silo]

Upcoming Sparring I mean

Do we have info already

[vernal condor]

I didnt see that there was a sparring lol

[icy pendant]

3v3 steel no status

[long silo]

There will be lol

Oh

[icy pendant]

which I don’t think matters for top teams no?

[long silo]

I guess true

[vernal condor]

It does

[icy pendant]

anyways also 3v1 psychic no rules and 3v1 dark anti-dps

[vernal condor]

Well it doesnt for lillie lear steven specifically, but that's not the best best team

[long silo]

I was using Colress but Lillie can replace him anyway

But hmmm SyMUN every sync for Lear that doesn't rely on Arc Steven MPR...

[pallid girder]

Its actually the best. The only one that broke 6M last time when all other spam teams didnt afaik.

[vernal condor]

nah all 3 steel teams were neck to neck

if one broke 6m it's because that guy had stupid gears

[long silo]

All three...?

[vernal condor]

if one can break 6m all 3 can, except the Ingo team (the one I used) got really high without the need of gears

[vernal condor]

ingo, lillie and colress

[long silo]

Steven/Lear/Colress
Steven/Lear/Lillie

[vernal condor]

that was the 3 teams

[long silo]

What's th- oh

[vapid kernel]

Psychic is gonna be Jacque Dexio and Dark is just Cerena

[icy pendant]

well it appears that today I’m going to start planning out my gear because all of those types I’m already prepared for unless Dexio beats Jacq by a healthy margin

[long silo]

Dexio with his 5m run:

[vernal condor]

The best I have is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOvA170mDZ8

and it's ingo

[pallid girder]

The top 1 score before reset last time:
https://imgur.com/KlZl86l

[vernal condor]

yeah that's just better gears

That's why I don't like how skill gears currently work you can point at something and say "look that's the best!" and then you look closer and it's inflated a lot by skill gears

[vagrant ivy]

the possibility of opp paralyzed: s-move damage 45% is too much to ignore

[vernal condor]

well in that situation it can't be that

[cloud timber]

no para on that team so it's not exactly that

[vernal condor]

but steel move 27% is a possibility

[pallid girder]

Well... then how do we know SS ingo's 5.7M is not with a god gear alr?
Is nao in this discord and share their gears alr?

[vernal condor]

no they have god gears too
but I know I don't, and I was getting similar scores to people who were using good gears

if you remove the skill gears im pretty sure ingo gets the best score, and so in theory the best inflated score with skill gears too

[vagrant ivy]

i usually have one gear with para 5% and that's it

[sacred badger]

when will this start?

[vagrant ivy]

status being banned means no poppy self-spam

aeugh

[cloud timber]

Start: 24/1/2025
End: 2/2/2025

dates as listed in absol's pastebin

[vernal condor]

super late huh ok

[pallid girder]

Poppy alternated between para & bunk last time.

[warped gulch]

10 days ?

That longer than HSE

[cloud timber]

it'll be properly adjusted for timezone in brybry's schedule page so for me it starts and ends a day sooner than there

[warped gulch]

No mb, both have the same duration

Damn imagine Lg also last like this

Hell

[cloud timber]

no relevant banners to run with it

[pallid girder]

They're gonna kill off LG

[warped gulch]

No more cookies

[vagrant ivy]

they'll probs add a new source

or better add the deluxe skills into regular cookies (this is copium)

but i think we'll only really have issues if no LG appears by feb

[cloud timber]

also with datamine out of the way i can safely candy arc lance to 4/5 in time for dragon st neat

[sacred badger]

hmm i tihnk SS Alt Giovanni is going to be really nice for Interference Immunity/Status Immunity stages :3

then again

steel multi is likely going to be SS Lear, Arc Steven and Anni Lillie Gaming. >_.

[plush palm]

i think im skipping him unless kantrio is REALLY kind to me

[sacred badger]

Dont even need to spam w/e, just have all three.

honestly, i might actually 3/5 Arc Steven for it htough, but we'll see.

[plush palm]

gonna be using aaron again i guess

At least colress benefits from the extra def buff

for some reason colress is still better than the solgas in 3v1

[cunning rock]

Ngl, I think I'm gonna run NC Bianca, Pal Marnie, and Arc Steven and hope for the best

[vast glade]

So... Considering the current buffs with grid expansion, super awakening and EXR, will Anni N be viable in this mode?

Or not worth investing?

[azure vine]

exr gives him something

but he gets no sa and his 4/5 and 5/5 grid tiles are a joke

[vernal condor]

I think Anni N has a shot at being good

his debuff is still awkward tho

Might hard require Oleana for fast aoe debuffs

[plush palm]

Olana has poison tho

weirdly enough he can spam

its just gauge thats the issue

so maybe chase

[azure vine]

he always had at single

now he has at triple too? (maybe?)

[plush palm]

no point using oleana if you have someone else to provide debuffs i think

idk what unit that would be tho

[fluid anvil]

anni N is usable, not great

even with Strike EXR

[vernal condor]

Yeah I'll probably still get better scores with Glorialt lol

[hidden junco]

Anni N will def be good

Just won't be able to compete at the top because lol Arc Leon

But it's a ~5m potential nuke that's AoE

[vernal condor]

We're not even talking about top rn
Does he beat Hilda? Heck, does he beat Glorialt + Marnie lol

[hidden junco]

I'm fairly certain he'll beat Hilda

[plush palm]

what debuffer support options does he have

[vernal condor]

How do you debuff to -18

[plush palm]

he can spam on his own after atk and spatk are -6

[hidden junco]

Maybe not SA Hilda

[hidden junco]

Maybe Leaf / Blue / N

Start is slow, but the output after is higher

[vernal condor]

We'll have to wait another 5 months to figure it out

[plush palm]

alt iris as a anni n debuffer?

[vernal condor]

she's just as good as anni n himself isnt she

[hidden junco]

Is there any reason for going her over Leaf?

Or is that a Leafless option?

[vernal condor]

prob a leafless option

[plush palm]

huh alt iris trip up is on dragon rush

nvm shes worse than i though

[hidden junco]

They didn't even give her the debut -1 everything

[fluid anvil]

where is the status spammer on that team?
or does the Hilda 3v3 DC team also not use a status spammer? (I've no idea)
But sync nukers generally require status spam and sync rushing

[hidden junco]

Just a random stat

[hidden junco]

Noble Roar N

[vernal condor]

N spams

You have +6 speed and MGA on demand

[fluid anvil]

noble roar can work as status spam if target is at -6?

[hidden junco]

A MGA that will come with -2 countdown the first time too

[vernal condor]

yes

[vernal condor]

since it drops 2 different stats

it's like defende order or venom drench

[fluid anvil]

Ah then that makes N a lot better in DC

[plush palm]

-5 non spatk or atk debuff off the bat

[hidden junco]

It's one random stat

Not -1 all stats

[plush palm]

nvm then

I cant read today

leaf is best option?

[hidden junco]

She comes with rebuff, sun, and Sup EXR

So it's hard to compete

Her Sup EXR is not even losing mucb damage because her nuke is also strong

[vapid kernel]

Interesting tht Anni N is Strike EXR

Too late

Needa wake like 3 months to test that out lol

[vernal condor]

I'm struggling to judge how good will Giovanni be
At worst he's a better BP Barry but at best he might very well outperform literally everyone

[true locust]

Not sure about gio

Only see him in dark st ranked

But this need test

Like ghost st ingo spam was wors then lillie

She kick chase out

Same for dark i already have team in mind . For it. Also not see gio in this team for now

[vapid kernel]

Didnt expect him to be tht good

[misty forge]

If his self buffs are +3, he's gonna be really cracked

[plush palm]

Sync move next +2 w/ every stockpile too

idk how that effects his timing

[misty forge]

Yep

That's the brokeb part

[plush palm]

he starts at +3 too if you take rhe right grid nodes

[vernal condor]

same time waste as infliction passives

[misty forge]

Empty spam for +10 syun every cycle is crazy, especially since he gets changing infliction if you want

Can't you stack them so they override and the infliction timeloss is barely relevant

?

[vernal condor]

pretty much

[misty forge]

So yea

Gaugeless +10 syun is crazy even tho it's slower

Than sing spam

The biggest upset is that his exr is a timeloss on non dark stages