#Damage Challenge
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But let's see if easier set up is better compared to better nuke
But circle essentially can mostly make up for zone
Big sad I can't get this node
3/5 dahlia is very nice, wtz extension for two types
And she can spam teeter dance
yep
Also with Chase and DC Blue on the team, this grid is perfect for her
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PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
If i 3/5 Dahlia, should my team be Dahlia/SSR Cynthia/NC Bianca?
3/5 doesn't help for this one specifically, just water and grass
I suppose it's just to debuff defenses
BOTH defenses
Dahlia's spam grid is Teeter Dance:MGR 9?
shouldn't need it but it might depend on your team
chase can sustain gauge
without it
So what grid that makes her being viable for a spammer?
muddy water on a roll and
well 3/5 helps gauge bc wtz extension helps for racing rain or turbo turf actually

it'll be weird using chase for a phys attacker though
yeah still eva and enabling 2 bar spam without gauge passive
Use NC Bianca instead
bianca works with colress specifically who doesn't lower spdef
idk if she sustains 2 bar without colress's mga
Wait
Wait wait
SSRC/SS Hilbert/NC Bianca
They'll drop both defense and Sp. Defense
where spam
SS Hilbert I'm guessing
.........
Not sure if Metal Sound is viable as a spam
No don't
you could test how far you get with bianca and dahlia with mgr9
metal sound isnt viable as spam since it only debuffs one stat
buff/debuff moves need to buff/debuff multiple stats to be good spam
something to do with "But it failed!" being faster than "X's Sp. Def cannot be lowered!"
thats why aaron's defend order works but anyone using double team doesnt
You can get all rewards even today
Just need comeback and some runs
Boring event too easy
A bit higher
I could have gotten a bit higher if I had +6e on gladion but volo held it down
Exr on gladion would've gone a long way too
What's the strategy here? Hoping for Metronome to get para?
Yup, 10% chance to roll zap cannon, surprisingly fairy zone is able to last the entire fight if you sync with lillie, volo, then gladion
Yeah, fuck that shit 😭
congrats on 10/5 lol
Sure, she she was the best Ghost 3v1 until SS Ingo
10/5 SS Korrina is now probably either equal or a bit better than her.
Yeah
The discussion was between Cynthia and Korrina though
HEY
Just because you're correct, doesn't mean you're right
3/5 Cynthia will probably still be better than 3/5 SS Korrina, as before
it's fine to opt for debuffing spdef only so that's why chase + dc blue was an option despite being physical
wait what
SSRC + Fall Allister (he has para at 3/5) + new Lillie is probably the best Cynthia team now and might be the second best overall for 3v1 after SS Ingos
Allister is slow, but Lillie now fixes that
you would need to get great Shadowball debuffs rng tho
-2 ghost rebuff
ssrc's main mult is smarty pants
more important to max that out than to debuff defense
gg
Wow queen
MY BABY IS SO BACK!! 🥹😭🫶
Skill gear specs:
+85 Sp.Atk
Special S-Moves ↑ 2%
Critastrophe 1%
Opp Status Cond: S-Moves ↑ 4%
Opp Int or Status Cond: S-Moves ↑ 2%
Fairy S-Moves ↑ 3%
AS Diantha when
The first Arc Suit I will 5/5
Don't know if ppl notice it. Fairy got boost to 7.95M, outdmg ArcCynthia and became top 2 again.
I'm guessing it's bc of HLillie right?
not really enough evidence for that compared to just being 10/5 penny
but it could be
maybe just a gear improvement compared to last time too?
Okay... it's コリーン(Korin) so maybe in the end they'll share their team like they did with Steel.
yeah direct confirmation would do far more than anyone else's guess
but lillie's b move does help get around reaching max cap on gladion's second b move
Arc Lance/Holilillie/SSR Cynthia gaming?
that's what i'll be running but it prob still won't come too close to ss ingo bulds
too many things going for him
also curious if h lillie/redlax ends up being remotely as optimal as i initially suspected, redlax tm being 3 seconds faster than lillie's seun does matter but it's not as much a difference as expected and doesn't add an extra passive mult like other standard options
won't apply to ss ingo or ssrc most likely
having to not rely on pep rally does save time too
so chase and nc blue remain relevant
also rip to the people who can't afford nc blue but if your resources are limited you'll have to miss out on some things
Chase will always be relevant bc eva is one of the biggest factor to go higher.
How did you squeeze in a moonblast at 0:00? 
chase or bianca depending on the comp
tiny fraction of a second probably
10/5 Diantha difference
^
This is the answer, though
I was just as shocked as you are
Should I use ss leaf over sslyra since I can't use interference?
Both of them are useless
Since both of them rely on status and Barry is immune to them
Yeah you’ll likely get a much better score just with SS Erika
with Holiday Sycamore and Aaron as the other teammates
Aaron over colress?
Colress doesn’t work like you think he does for this mode
Screech spam is slow and Thunder Wave spam is even slower with the no status parameter
Yeah I'm cooked
Feels like something isn’t set up right, Aaron takes 2 actions and then he spams because of Sycamore TM
Arc cynthia getting shafted so quickly
Ex brendan
Erika 2 x speed,sycamore razor leaf and tm,Aaron tm,defend order spam
Atleast hilda clutched it to 1 mil
Arc cynthia is long time was no top1 but leon
I told leon hit harder
Fairy need 2 gladion miss like befor so heavy rng🤣
Leon can hit 9m less rng
SS Hilda not reaching 1M with that team is 
i reached 1.9 mil with that exact team lol
same move levels and everything
my hilda and morty are exr though, exr on morty matters quite a bit
for that ss erika team, i think your sun is running out too quickly, her sync without sun is pretty pitiful
remember field effects last 45 seconds by default, so she would need 2 mprs to last the whole fight. but you really don’t need any at the start when setting up so just 1 is good
Might be running wrong grid. Grab super sync on her for infinite SEUP after her first sync
Hit 2.3m w/ that team
exr hilda
morty not caked
use this grid
try Brendan?
Yeap better brendan
Brendan may not be EX-able in which case he’s not better
may be possible to fit in a second seun boosted b move but just an experiment anyway
I’m considering swapping BP Barry and Melony since Fire has higher damage potential. I was barely able to get in Arc Leon’s last sync and b move as is, so I kind of doubt I would be able to get an extra sync with sing spam
Does sing spam work vs barry who's immune to status conditions or will the message pop up delay me too much?
much worse lol, avoiding burn doesn't do enough to make up for infliction freebie and no support/sprint, no time to fit in b move for seun for final sync
Nices hes almost as good as mix blue
too much delay
thx
prob worth using elio over bp barry so you can keep melony on chase and still remove some of the gauge refill delay
gauge might not survive anyway with melony even with triple burn and speeding sun
if you used melony
i know newer account so you could lack ex elio but in case you have it
Allister, chase and h lillie hopefully thts good for tmr
Agreed that Elio would be a good option to replace BP Barry since Melony’s gauge is lacking. I’m doing dailies for Hol Lillie, so I will hold off until tomorrow to see who I can EX
aye
minor improvement, can def do more but done with this, thought not using max flare to save a seun for first b move would get more damage but apparently not but still got more sync crits
Ye it was the case
But committed to ex to use for cs and bulu solo too
And that let's me prob get top 500
For the challenge what are my best options? I have stuff like red lax, chase, and NC blue.
Please ping me
I mainly want rewards I'm not too concerned about scoring high
If I do great, if not oh well
I was thinking leaf, Morty, and maybe colress for fire? No clue about grass and water
Grass is going to be close between Adaman and Brendan, I think it’s Adaman though. I don’t see Holiday Sycamore there which is a premier partner for Aaron on the spam side, you may need to get creative.
Water is just a question of if NC Serena at 1/5 can outnuke SS Misty
What supports would I want? I'm going to guess chase for water
Since that stage wants special
Cerena’s optimal teammates are Chase + Melony/HLillie/Dahlia
Grass is Aaron + uh… do you have SSA Cynthia?
Yes I do
Her then
Your grass probably is close to clearing 1m on its own in that case
(for reference I’m at 1.35m with HSycamore instead of Cynthia on the same team, and I think I could optimize further but I don’t remember)
What exactly does Aaron do? Let alone Cynthia...that's an interesting combo.
Aaron is for Defend Order spam, and Cynthia maxes his defenses right away
Sycamore gives you an extra stage of rebuff in exchange for only +4 defenses (so Aaron needs to full HP Heal Order and Defend Order once before spamming), but with Adaman’s rebuff and -6 defense potential you actually don’t miss that much damage with the rebuff
Ah that makes a ton of sense. Is there a specific grid I want for anyone?
I think just Team Full-Bracing Infliction 1 for Aaron, Cynthia would like Impervious if she’s 3/5 so she can tank but otherwise most of her grid slows her down, it’s debatable if you even want to sync with her tbh
Cynthia’s biggest letdown for DC is her super long entry animation but this is really the only time it’s worth running her
Thank you I will give this a whirl! Should be more than enough
Wouldnt turn 1 defend order be better so you get +2 off the bat
Instead of doing heal order for +1 each and defend order for the other +1 each
If Defend Order is a status move I genuinely forgot it was but also it makes sense that it is because what else would it be
Lmfao
well now I have a great reason to go back and improve my score
either way Cynthia doesn’t care what move type Defend Order is because she just gives +6
yeah that’s improvement for me 100%
first red sync doesn't get any offensive buffs and marnie doesn't get to +6 atk for furious brawn but lillie saves enough time to get another b move out at the end, boosted by pmuns from tm
can get in one more pmun so i'll do that
Tempting to EX R SS Kris since no Dahlia, to team up with Chase and NC Serena 
I'd imagine no spam is not good for NC Serena tho.
Well, guess I'll put a spammer at the cost of no rain 
no 3/5 archie either right
If you happen to have 2/5 or more Vbede you might try Chase Serena and him
I don’t have champions spirit or cake to invest in VHop to go 5+ Mln so I went the dps route with 1/5 no ExR milo and 3/5 ExR adaman
Still kinda paid off
Sadly no VBede yet/neither 
Giving Serena rain or SEUN is the same so mmh… maybe ScSteven lol
At least you add 1 rebuff and spam tackle 😅
The issue about Serena dps is she has looooong animation for 5 hit move and all debuffs after that.
She prob can still 1M with pure dps, but never better than just spam sync.
ghost later 
SS Korrina time
SS Ingo time 
SSR Cynthia time
Agatha time
Allister time
ny dawn time
Lillie time
I just did this earlier and I am too lazy to reset for the 10% miss for the millionth time
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I never thought scoring this high
I think I'm fine staying there
grid her for max b move damage (no need for sync damage) and run ss wally with some other status setter, with support ex ideally
should also be able to top off lillie's special attack
ramming speed and bottom right tile for smun on sing are essential
don't take troublemaker
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you still want to get in as many sync buffs as possible yes
but most of your damage won't come from syncs directly
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yeah
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could be worth running bp valerie for sync damage and run off raw sing spam
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grid grand entry for max spa
snorlax
seun is only making a major difference for first b move though
since she provides her own seun for the following b moves
you prob also need to space your b moves enough so you can build smuns in between with sings
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her sync output is so low and redlax tm is slow enough that it'll just hold you back unless you're certain you aren't fitting in more syncs regardless
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you may be syncing with ss wally to maintain her own seun
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correct
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yeah with b moves being the focus the strat is much less usual, could take time to perfect it
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with redlax you'll need grand entry 2
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yeah
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yeah that's good
This one’s gonna bother me, got a full hit Earthquake at the end costing my ability to use Lillie’s B move before last sync
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i'd go for 3 tms first
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yeah it's likely we won't get gauntlet in january if they don't want to overlap high score with it like they have in the past
Is sticking to hs1/adr1 the best? Or we still get some extra time with ppe2?
*for h.Lillie
Oh noice, i can skip dropping 300 bronze deluxe then. Hs1 here we go
Better than 0 deluxe cookies (help me)
yea for pinpoint entry 2 you're 6x more likely to get it from 2* than 1*
so 200 is plenty for that
Ye, saving bronzies for mindgames
Dropped hs1 guaranteed cookie
Lillie looks great sprint supp w sing 
She’s easily going to be my pick from mix scout pity if I don’t get her from dailies
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50 base
+50 from field role / extension 5
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yeah if you use first zone below 1:40 and second below 0:50 you have them last the entire duration without running out, but sometimes you'll need to use wtz sooner
circle lasts the same duration but its fade animation doesn't consume time
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Sing is never succeeding on the team comp you were suggested, so SMUN is never a factor
oh that's on use and not success? so it's not optimal because all the other ones slow you down probably way more time than they're worth
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i can't really give too many details since i haven't been able to use 3/5 lillie myself
ST Ghost is next reset. Think SS Ingo would bring better numbers than SSR Cynthia?
he did over 4m already? not sure but ssrc didn't go nearly that high in single
we'll still see how much arc lance and h lillie can improve her
but ingo being the best is hardly a question
Neat, I don't have Chase, and I ran into issues with gauge when I went with SS Ingo as the spammer.
And that was with +6 speed
yeah 2 bar spam is not easy to work with without chase, usually i'd use larry to have best possible gauge and also supply rebuff
I have Larry at least, I'll probably run SS Ingo, SSR Cynthia, and Larry.
is your ss ingo not 3/5?
I'll probably slap HLillie onto the team then.
can work, will be able to use something other than larry too like redlax
or nc blue
I'll try with Redlax since double Support/Sprint with SEUN is nice. I'll probably fish for 1 Ingo MPR on T1
yeah that can work out
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nice, that already outdoes my 1/5 h lillie 3/5 ss wally score
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she's quite an overperformer damage-wise, idk anyone that expected the output she's proven
ss ingo/redlax/larry may be the call
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I'm so close to pitying Holillie
I'm so mad I won't be able to use her here for fairy
if you had one second for last b move you'd need to make up like 12-13 seconds to get in another action if there were any worth using and hs1/adr is not making up that much time on its own
maybe it still helps setup somewhere
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nice gg

Not superawakened
Actually F2P, imo
If my best damage dealer for fairy 3v3 is a 1/5 SS Gladion should I run it with 3/5 EXR Red or 3/5 EXR NC Blue
And if it's Red
Do I save a SEUN for B Move or nah
dunno if 1/5 ss gladion is better than 3/5 bp valerie but if you're using him you want to do whatever you can to max out his b move output
zone, rebuff, seun, debuffs, smun, basically everything that the penny/ss wally team does
No tm mpr on v hop
What’s a better team with v hop? No milo or hsycamore. Have 3/5 ssac
Now let's see who's better
Lodge Dawn? She gives faster setup for Aaron and can max out speed via TM x3. Plus she has +3 Evasion when she syncs
None of my teams have adr1 or hs1 
i'm unaware of how the gauge actually works out with ssac/aaron but i don't think v hop benefits from sun
lodge dawn may actually be better
Oh, must have been an adaman team
Yeah, it's likely Adaman or even Brendan, VHop has 0 Sun related tiles on his grid
He just wants GT
You want max speed for Brendan anyway because of Inertia.
What l dawn grid?
Probably just something like this.
Just make sure that Lodge Dawn is tanking to make use of the self evasion
whos the f2p water option? for special dmg nuking
is it may (swampert?)
since the sheet doesn't have any f2p water clears
ss misty is a bit preferred
spammer should be bp barry or elio for sync power flux purposes and you need to make sure she gets +6 spa +3 crit, best way to handle blind spot is to reset for +2 eva on first water gun afaik
yeah
i think so
noted noted. for grass - 1/5 adaman or brendan?
brendan
Brendan’ll be better
neat ok thanks
Also for that grass stage, you’ll want to use Aaron or Oleana bc no status rule
i see aaron / brendan / hilbert clear, is nc blue an improvement on hilbert
since hilbert is for +speed,crit and supp sync if im correct
right then ill probably throw melony red with silver... unless ss ingo?
yeah the debuff on sync is neat
ss misty really wants that one turn max offenses
oh right so nc blue is good there
melony + ss misty + nc blue?
oops
i meant nc blue
ah hm so thats why you said barry
Barry is better bc Sync Power Flux
neat (<- has never used ss misty except for haze)
oh who would be better elio or barry?
yeah probably silver
Elio bc he is faster than Barry 40%
i would prefer elio
even with sync power flux i mean
SS Ingo should be good for him
who's third then? silver already does sun.... gordie fire rebuff?
I’ll run supp Ex
oh red SEUN + supp sprint
Elio’s gauge is really good bc his passive
So you shouldn’t have trouble to reach max gauge for Sync PowerFlux
oh elio can still get to basically full i see
wait silver can do SEUN on TM... how do you play his buffing though?
oh and you need to max inertia...
maybe just run hilbert
That where SS Ingo come in
At 1/5 he can give +4 speed aoe
He also can debuff Def Aoe with his Max Move
as for attack i guess 2x TM plus max knuckle from red?
Yes
he'd also need red TM for crit ... i guess his own SEUN is just wasted
Bc Red already gives SEUN so you dont worry about reset for Silver’s Tm mpr
Which way less rng and bs
yup may as well take it off for faster tm
yeah almost did too XD ends tmrws reset
And right while I'm still getting my stuff set up on my new computer so I don't have my sync pair tracker ready guhhhhh
Anyone have suggestions for damage dealers? It's this lot and like uhhhh SSHilbert is the only other type specific relevant unit I can think of that I own lol
Hilb is 1/5 EX though so probably not too relevant?
dang running out of red tm is annoying (no MPR proc'd...)
but even so they still did 900k+
we'll see if i bother coming back to that
(Also every 4 star and 3 star that you'd expect lol)
im in the same boat as you running silver, ss misty and brendan
Oh and the EXR'd units here are Clavell, SS Morty, Gloria Alt 2, NY Wallace, and SS Lyra
Silver for Fire, Dojo Gloria for Water, and Brendan for Grass
Roger roger, thanks for the suggestions!
Lodge Dawn + Aaron should be solid for you in Grass
Ooh, the def buffing countdown strat
Grass is status immune so it's really Aaron or Oleana for spammers
Oh wait hold on I can share one of my older limited unit lists from back when I was on the laptop
This is from near the end of November so it should still be mostly accurate
In case any of this info helps
Would SS Steven work better than Aaron by chance?
Does Gloria better than SS Misty even with Physical dmg reduced?
My Steven has a head start 1 lucky and first tm cosmic power kinda does the same thing so lol
OH RIGHT. It's physical damage reduced. SS Misty is likely better. I forgot 
Nope. I think it's because of Stat Share that allows Aaron to spam, without it SS Steven becomes slower at max defenses.
Unless your SS Steven is 5/5 with Hs1
What about stat share makes Aaron faster anyways? It doesn't even trigger when he's maxed as far as I've seen from using him for this sort of stuff before
How long does Allister's restrain last

1 of lillie's b move for last sync
also i have gear boost for user status condition and i got poisoned so 3% off that
I've been tryna pull for Lillie, no luck so far
i got her first multi 
Hopefully I can scrounge together a spark by doing some of the ultimates lol
but yeah this is still getting nowhere close to what ss ingo can do
Best Ghost team for today's DC??
Ah yes, my first try
Even better than the Variety Lyra? I figured the rain and fake tears drops would've made the difference there, but I've certainly been wrong before lol)
I used VLyra but she's 3/5 for me
I got close but it's only because I pulled on the VGalar Trio too but I got Bede so 
109k gems left
Her spam is so bad 💀

weirdly enough im having the issue where evasion is too good and silver aint even reaching his second sync so no SEUP
yea
AND I THOUGHT NATURAL REMEDY CAN HANDLE IT
WHY THE FUCK DOES SILVER HAS MORE POISON CHANCE THAN MY SSRC'S TM MPR??????
i got a 1.7m run with one more sync than the last but no b move seun and first sync didn't crit
and recording didn't process
Silver (Poison) 🤝 Barry (Burn)
confusion probably isn't worth it
it helps reduce animations, or am I missing something
it adds more animations
bit of lag every time they try to attack animating confusion
Ingo has multiplier for confusion
Just confusion
didn't recall that off the top of my head but if that's the case then keep it ofc
Also it is very close to Brainpower too
SS Ingo isn't hitting 1M without Ghost Zone 
no?
Hmmmm
Most ST stage cant reach 2nd Sync
DC Wally is really good at enabling SSR Cynthia
Nice
Time for Allister...
Triple Fire
you can definitely do better with elio to max debuffs and remove speed
i did 4.2m in multi
Sorry, my omni candies are reserved for the future Arc Suits
Understandable, preparing for 10m bug
600k for 1/5 Ingo
looks like the score for 1v3 is way lower than i thought itd be
hmm
At least for ssr
Score is low since silver have alot aoe moves
And speed
And he can poison
This is realy annoing round
at this point i might as well give up on evasion and just go redlax
- elio
wait no mind games rng sucks
bianca it is ugh
output suffers a lot if you can't do much for smarty pants
stealing this team. Thank you for the idea 
best case scenario ssr has enough time to get off a shadow force
otherwise yeah i cant push too much higher
shadow force hits like a truck tho
Not bad. Lillie was poisoned near the end but I am happy with the outcome as I couldn't crack one million the first time this stage ran
10/5 Redlax 
red has fans lol
Not realy sure he worth invest special for dc change nothing at all
The Max Countdown 2 should help for sure.
Suck
She not base on poison?
Btw I made some testing and 3/5ExR ingo > 3/5 ExR Cynthia > 3/5 Ex Ingo
Guess who forgot the tech cake 
Yeah, Allister is Poison + Restrain for sync nuking tiles
Lol
Then i would use nc blue not chase
You low spe def
Para not need and alister just 1 move max sts
Even f2p got 600k 
There was a 4M+ clear with 10/5 SS Ingo as syncer back on 3v3 ghost stage
Normally that can be recreated or improved on 3v1
i wasn't sure if i was making that up or if it actually happened
we do have a 3.7m up at least
this round
It did. Since Lillie was poisoned, thanks to the SA passive, I managed to get one last sync
Does Lodge Dawn's Fail Forward waste time or nah
I'm kinda worried about my gauge production for this grass fight
it does
Diffrence is you confuse mid
He use more moves then sides
And you need aply confusion 2/3 times
On side its just 1
EXing SS Misty after she got trash talked to hell and back in a friend group of mine for aaaages feels weird lol
But hey
Whatever damages your challenge
Oh crap sync power flux
Not sure who I should set as my countdowner if that's a mult I need to care about here....
barry
Good point
Fun fact the devs don't want you to know about btw
BP is actually short for Barry Points
Oh right Barry means I can run anything I want in slot 3 lol
An interesting comparison
This was before realising that I forgot to have Victor use haze for the “increase sync damage when opponent has 0 stat buffs” multiplier
This was my score after removing the opponent’s speed boost
500k seems to little
Until you realize that it is from one of the shittiest ghost nuker
What's the short form term for units like Victor and Spectrier anyways
she can't buff her own offenses so anything that does that
Barry will be covering at least one side of that
...Dare I EX my 1/5 SS Mina and get rain?
Oh wait evasiveness i need to buff that still
I do have a 1/5 EX Chase...
Though he might slow things down with that hp restoring passive? I guess?
I swear if this is gonna work......
unfortunately no tech ex
still above allister
You're just a regular ass unit
katherine isn't that much better tbh she peaks at like 530k
i love stock trainers
i mean all she has to work off of is one innate and smarty-pants which isnt alot
Wait until Fairy 3v1 with Hol. Lillie
chase is always a decent pick, evasion makes up for reactive passive and slow setup
WE WILL ACHIEVE 1M
allister's multipliers are reliant on poison which sucks
well its virulent toxin 5 + restrain
still surprised that hes not even getting 500k, might just be optimization
Ain't no way my ass is missing top 5k THIS closely. Gotta figure out how to improve these
id ex ss misty and switch elio with bp barry
that should be like 800k to 900k?
DC blue is a potential sidegrade but needs 3/5 + EX
and needs chase TM MPR
which is 3/5
I do have training tickets spare in case any of my DC units would benefit from a 3/5
you dont have melony?
melony would be good for fire
I do have Melony yea
I used Elio becuase I wasn't so sure about the whole "getting enough MPRs on silver to max attack and apply SEUN to all of his syncs" situation
it'll help ss misty to have elio free
Any particular reason beyond the spatk ramp?
Also does this mean I have to set chase as target so he inflicts para
sync power flux, propelling move keeps up the gauge while not proc'ing 100% of the time
never set chase as tank
in dc
the solution is either a. para with HE9 boosted thunder shock or b. let them hit u with a spread move
its rarely ever setting chase as tank unless you are supremely confident in ur evasion luck
As for the propelling move stuff uhhhh
Sounds good and I'm sure it will work out better overall but I'll have y'all know that I WILL be incredibly anxious about clicking sync while I have like 4 or 5 gauge instead of 6 every single time
I simply do not have access to the first option I fear
So spread it is
chase's gauge is extremely good so the wait will be super minimal if there at all
you can just pop TMs to burn time before they click their first spread move
Should I wait for 6 gauge every time?
Fair
go with that
Alright, resetting fire and water for Elio strats with now-ex'd-I-swear SS Misty
World's dumbest question but I fear I must ask
For post-final-sync: would Elio's Sparkling Aria deal more damage than Misty's Water Gun
ofc
I'll click water gun too if I have time for two becuase the smun stacks from Kanto Analysis should make the first water gun decent at least but
Yea
if you don't have the gauge for another sparkling aria maybe
worth ignoring smun over
wild
(Repost) From Kolin: yes its Lillie not Penny.
Preeeetty good improvement
What team
Leme see Excel wait
I feel like 1M with just 2/5 SS Ingo is possible but need a lot of luck. (currently 900k)
I now his team first day
Just need 2 fleur miss and alot miss so you spam sing for special up
Plus you saw they 2 time hit them self in confusion
Alot rng
Nice
Much better
...but now I kinda want to sneak into top 3k if I can lol
highest i think she can push on my comp
I only got two SEUNs on Silver that run so I could just fish for more
needs her to delay her SEUP for a bit w/ flinches
and evasion shenanigans ofc
amd have like 5 secs at the end for shadow force
lol weirdly enough i got her 5/5 w/o pity
That luck aint coming again
used the pity on sonia back then
Impressive
Finally crossed 1 mil on single ghost. 3/5 lance should get an extra sync or 2 as he can enable sing spam
right behind arc leon damn
man
I've had 5/5 since she came out 💎
weirdly enough you can sorta "save" ssr cynthias SEUP for later if you flinch gengar w/ bianca enouh times for her to get 1-2 syncs in before SEUP
is NCblue + Lillie or Arc Lance + Lillie better for Cynthia?
Did you use Lillie b-move for SEUNs ? If so - how many times?
dont sync with Lance, right ?
yeah no need
only need one successful sing and lillie's tm for gauge
so +4 but you can do most of the fight at +2
over half
so never used moonblast?
never
ghost zone management can be annoying since you'll get to cynthia's first sync faster than at a comfortable range but you still want zone up for that sync
so on some runs you can be out of zone at a bad time
but you'll get 7 syncs if everything goes smoothly, no need for flinch or full para or anything
with decent input precision
So do yall use Lillie's B move under any circumstance
General survey
And no i dont want on-type answers
no reason to use it off type
If you can fit 1 before the last sync I don't see why not
her b doesnt do anything for off type though other than free move next for everyone
which really shouldnt even be needed since you (should) have everyone at +6 speed
and seun lol
She gives SEUN to everyone
oh ill be so honest i had a brain fart
i saw off type and was like "oh seun doesnt apply"
then i remembered all of dc is on type
Does arc lance have status? I forgot
para
I use it if I'm not using Redlax and I have 30 secs left, that should be enough time to make it to the next sync
1m now possible thanks to Lillie 
1-1,5M was always possible with SS Korrina
why use Lillie and not Fall. Allister?
Test it out
If you could use 2 lillie b move befor last sync she would be same 4m+ score
This run miss 2 sync crits
But no time for it you would need avoid like 90% off moves
BP Barry was kicked off the team now that I could EX Elio. Melony didn’t have much gauge issues with all of Arc Leon’s residual damage
Melony need fast track whit leon
That would work too. I have Adrenaline 1 on her
Most use is head start
When you sing spam adrenaline is not the best
Just its like nothing in time when you sing spam
Oh is there a delay with adrenaline?
I see. I guess not with head start since it’s at the beginning
Just in some specific run maybe better
But for basic sing spam no
When you need use some moves in order after sync you need it but sing spam is best head start
Is it possible to hit 275k or higher against Silver?
With what damage dealer? Most can clear 275k by a very good margin
should be yeah, he hits 1m in 3v3 so his expected 3v1 value is right around 350k
Sounds about right. Got 310k with EX Morty but using steel gear
Because the nonlimited options are so bad someone should have a fully f2p clear in the pinned doc
You have to give it gear?
Just use ghost gear if you have it
Gear is nice for a small stat boost but you should have a much better bandanna by now than a +35 Atk one
Can we upgrade the gear by chance?
Type gear yes, but I was thinking skill gear
I think the minimum bandanna roll is +45 Atk so it would just be matching one of Morty’s theme skills
Skill gear is a thing? I know about type gear, but not skill gear
There might be a special feather you can use on skill gear bracelet for attack which would give you 60 attack without needing to reroll.
#1147355613198815352 if you’ve played an event in the last year you probably have pieces already
It's nice to see Fallister have some real utility outside of LG
@pure stream the Christmas event will give you both a bracelet at 4000 pts and a feather with gym leader theme skill at 4600 pts you can use for Morty.
So I can just use those and Morty’s damage would then increase?
yes
skill gear extra stats+sometimes skill w/ 1-5% dmg boost when condition is fulfilled
theres def better options than the one from events but those are hood enough for now
Why is it not letting me give it to them?
It just has my main character bracelet, but not the one I just made
I’m trying to battle with the bracelet I just made, but it only shows the bracelet for main character
From that screenshot you don't have any other bracelet skill gear
I took the feather they were talking about and inserted it into a new bracelet that had no skills
When I go to skill gear in the lobby, this is what I got. It shows the new one I just made
So can I still battle with it?
Yes but it doesn’t give any attack stat since you put the guaranteed feather on the wrong piece of gear to get attack buffs
I can’t take it out can I?..
There is a way to feather refund but you are past the point to do it
Just using yellow feathers on a new bracelet should be good once you find a theme skill matching Morty’s, assuming you have some of those
Any of Morty’s theme skills. Johto/Gym Leader/Ghost all come to mind immediately for me off-hand, but he has 1-2 more I’m forgetting
Scarf and Supernatural, idt either can show up
the others he has can't appear in skill gears
it's only region, trainer class and type
So what about this? He’s not a villain, but he does have ghost
Yeah that works
Skill gear requires at least 1 match, so that boosts any Villains or Ghost types or Grass types
Key word there is or (if it was and that skill gear wouldn’t work at all because no pair is both Ghost and Grass)
Ahh I see
Would a non ex role SS Ingo hit over 1 mil? 4/5
Definitely
Damn, I kinda wish SC Steven would stop getting poisoned so I can do what I need to do
@warped gulch what does the Oleana max move do in your Grass 3v3 clear
What's being used with him?
Nothing
Lmao 
I thought it was a +reading moment but thankfully not lol
Anyways thanks for that vid. Glad to have a confirmation that I can only really do three Mix Red syncs
It depends on what you have
But he's definitely the spammer
sure I’ll take it
I can improve Water but N is being annoying. That said, should be enough to hold top 500, I hope 
Yes
Just confirming there’s no way I can hit top 100 with the teams I have + a 2/5 VMarnie?
Realistically need to find an extra 2 million somewhere and I just don’t see it
Has ghost ST always been this bad lol
Yes
only 2 units capable of hitting 1m
so its not like theres a lot of competition
keep in midn that not everyone rolls the meta units
lots of people dont have ss ingo
im one of them
3 units, SS Korrina too.
I'm not sure if SC irida ever made 1M in 3v1
oh yeah i forgot her
I could try Irida again, I haven’t touched this DC yet
Pecking order multiplier 
definitely worse than Cynthia but I imagine Irida’s best comp is Chase Lillie and I have both of them invested now
no lillie rip
I did ST when it first came around bit I forgot how much she did
Probably below 500k 
I hit right around 2.5m 3v3 with her on the first cycle but better teammates will bring the score up
Need leon ex and exr
You can hit way way more then this
In theory I could EX exactly one pair because I have 40
and all of the 1:1 exchanges with
remaining for this month, but wouldn’t Marnie be the more impactful EX for Speeding Sun? The gauge on my team is quite awful
Marnie 2/5 can be too as well if she have cake and ex
Also Marnie EX would cost me 30
overall and I’m not sure the return on that investment is super worth it
I think my run gets 3 uses out of that TM lol
Total need 4
I'm quite sure SC Irida had 1M last time.
Plus you can save 1 leer for latter
but it’s more a question of is the investment worth it for basically just more training tickets
Lol depend wat you want:)
All invest is always need think befor spend if leon you will be use after
Leon is pretty distant in my to-EX lineup, I do want to invest more in him eventually but it’s hard to do that right now. As for tickets I’m at a whole 29 so it’s not going to meaningfully make a difference in getting another DC pair so it would just be for a title that I’m not going to use, more making sure I’m not leaving a ton of points on the table with the resources I have available to me right now
barely squeezed on top 100 (this stage sucks)
a shadow force at the end could push you to 1.4m... if youre willing to roll the rng slot machine ofc
i did a comp w/ bianca
and dc blue
finnicky tho
i had to use the 2nd shadow force in the middle to replenish gauge for melony and i used 1 at the end
it didn’t feel very optimal
Found it. SC Irida 1M in single.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1ex4rs2/when_you_refuse_to_candy_a_25_ss_cynthia_for_just/
looks finicky as hell
SS Ingo, SSRC, SS Korrina, SC Irida, NY Dawn
These are units that I know 1M in Ghost single (some require super rng tho)
i assume ss ingo is outscoring?
He is topscoring
Yes SS Ingo 3M > SSRC 2M at most > all others barely 1M
plus zone w superawakening
Iirc all st had at least 4 units that can 1M, but most only have 1 or 2 units super outscore (>2M) while the others just barely reach 1M.
Ground had 4?
Arc Cynthia, Courtney, SS Giovanni, SC Adaman
I have no idea how y'all are hitting 1 mil, I have the units but simply can't replicate
can't replicate the sequence from a video or the damage?
Both I guess. It's tough for me to study with a vid
4/5 Ingo can't hit 500k, struggling to hit anything meaningful with SSR Cynthia, it sucks
Perhaps you're just unlucky with the crit
That or perhaps there's smth you're not fulfilling cus a 4/5 SS ingo should be able to 1m
He's not caked unfortunately, also not sure of the ideal partners
What team you were using?
Used him, HLillie and Chase earlier
SS Ingo can spam himself and Chase can maintain his gauge so HLillie is kinda useless.
I'll change to someone has zone, rebuff or SEUN.
So maybe Yarrdenia?
Also rmb to para before using will o wisp to spam.
Yes Chase + Yarrdenia are supposedly the best team for him.
Yes sync chase then gard for zone
You need in grid ingo and gard have low spe def on entry
Best grids
Ingo sp3 crit 2
Rest need head starts the best
Ingo tm chase 2 special up
Circle befor ingo sync also ingo need applt confusion befor his sync
Also need use chase tmp for gauge acceleration when you low on gauge
And chase you just use tm gard just sync don’t touch they moves gard nothing press. Chase only tmp circle
Had to cake Ingo but finally got 1.3 Mil. Thanks all
No Gauntlet for deluxe cookies sucks right now, no head start on Yardenia for instance
It's really weird they eliminated LG this month...
Would be pretty funny if the reason we got no LG this month is bc of Ray event lol
How do you use ingo? When I try to go with burning for the spdef drop it's too clunky to get many syncs in
you don't burn and you don't drop spd with the b move
We don't use other spam unit with him. We spam by himself.
yeah and I said you don't do that
that's not the thing to do
If you don't have Chase it's prob hard tho, consideing NC Blue can't really support 2 bar spam in my experience.
You need someone with MGA even with 6+ speed
Cus by the late game it can be kinda hard to maintain his gauge use
Sonia could theoretically but it'd take too long to set up
Yeah in that run I didn't and just did the standard NC blue/melony strat
That's what I meant
NC blue can't really get you far
If you have FAllister you can tank with him and get some gauge back whenever he's hit, but it's far from optimal.
rose too iirc. unga bunga dps go brrr
Well rip the dream ig I'm still recovering from "didn't play the game for 3+ years so I only have 286 total pairs" syndrome
Had a couple different runs but this rotation so far was the highest damage I got.
Maybe I'll come back to try other sequences but I actually ignored Super Sparring so I got to go do that.
Skill gear used 37%, 75Patk
Do you have 3/5 arc lance to try instead of nc blue?
I thought about that but, with these new yellow coins I would be 2/5 with Arc Lance.
Because one of my runs was pretty close with 3/4 Cynthia SE sync buffed . If all 4 were buffed it would have put me about 100k below my current score. So if we factor in fully powered Smarty Pants it might make up the difference from loosing the support sync buff.
Definitely dont candy Lance unless you really like him 
I'm just not sure if NC Blue or AS Lance are better here
do calcs 
For the grass battle in the ranked, I saw some Oleana over Aaron. Is Oleana faster to spam than Aaron, or not really?
5 cynthia syncs. One failed to crit and my dumb ass forgor to swap CS2 for SP3
plus a cheeky last second shadow force 
She doesnt take 5 turns to setup
I see that this a better primarina.
Compared to the non-shiny one. 😅
equivalent gear would have made that setup worse at a glance but it's possible to reset for mind games proc on blue
i guess i can try it myself
Could be a bit of a skill issue, but is SS Korrina's nuke weak?
i think i know the answer but just to check
the condition for n's stage affects all phys right
the wording makes it seem like its specifically phys attacks and not phys sync
but that seems... off
Oh
sorry
I thought you were asking me about the rules, lol
I think it's also physical syncs
Because back when we had ice, the condition was physical attacks were resisted
I used Hala and got abysmally low scores. So, I think it also affects syncs
o7 ty, i know ive been surprised in cs a few times expecting or not expecting things to affect things bc of weirdness with the use of 'move'
just checking as i throw in a bad score before i spend the rest of my evening in a waiting room lmao
i missed the two last crits and forgot seun but it's still the same sync count and we're dealing worse damage per sync regardless
used mind games proc
gear is 10% 100 atk compared to 37% 75
supports only 1 mil 
maybe if you had time to get out double spdef drop with potential defense drops on an early shadow ball you could safely pull ahead but that alone drops runs to 10% of what they are otherwise and there's not that much time on an average run prob
but i did have like 9 seconds left on my run and could save more possibly with blue x speed vs lillie tm
batman's run got seun on final sync so i need to match that
Gladly take top 500
even if this does end up peaking higher the rng is atrocious, need 8% to get mpr mg2 and para
Morty did better than expected
1.55m, missed mind games but fit in a shadow ball that double dropped -1 but no ending seun
still inclined to believe arc lance is better but nc blue theoretical peak could be higher still
just really ass
elio could still be better than h lillie too
for debuffs and canceling speed
don't feel like continuing to grind though

