#Damage Challenge

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royal jolt
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"Only for DC"
isn't she like the best AOE water? 😭

cursive linden
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And i only have 2 tech candies

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I don't have strike kek yet

crude sandal
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But let's see if easier set up is better compared to better nuke

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But circle essentially can mostly make up for zone

royal jolt
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Big sad I can't get this node

cloud timber
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3/5 dahlia is very nice, wtz extension for two types

cursive linden
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And she can spam teeter dance

cloud timber
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yep

crude sandal
cursive linden
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If i 3/5 Dahlia, should my team be Dahlia/SSR Cynthia/NC Bianca?

cloud timber
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3/5 doesn't help for this one specifically, just water and grass

royal jolt
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I suppose it's just to debuff defenses

crude sandal
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What was SSR Cynthia's best score again?

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On ghost 3v1

cursive linden
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BOTH defenses

royal jolt
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Yeah

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Plus, there's the chance you can drop accuracy

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Helena time

cursive linden
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Dahlia's spam grid is Teeter Dance:MGR 9?

cloud timber
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shouldn't need it but it might depend on your team

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chase can sustain gauge

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without it

cursive linden
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So what grid that makes her being viable for a spammer?

cloud timber
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muddy water on a roll and

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well 3/5 helps gauge bc wtz extension helps for racing rain or turbo turf actually

cursive linden
cloud timber
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it'll be weird using chase for a phys attacker though

crude sandal
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Someone did IIRC

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Because evasion

cloud timber
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yeah still eva and enabling 2 bar spam without gauge passive

cursive linden
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Use NC Bianca instead

cloud timber
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bianca works with colress specifically who doesn't lower spdef

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idk if she sustains 2 bar without colress's mga

cursive linden
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Wait

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Wait wait

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SSRC/SS Hilbert/NC Bianca

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They'll drop both defense and Sp. Defense

cloud timber
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where spam

crude sandal
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SS Hilbert I'm guessing

cursive linden
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.........

crude sandal
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Not sure if Metal Sound is viable as a spam

cursive linden
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No don't

cloud timber
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you could test how far you get with bianca and dahlia with mgr9

cursive linden
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Racing rain/Tubo Turf and Teeter Dance MGR9 is 2/5

fallen trail
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metal sound isnt viable as spam since it only debuffs one stat

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buff/debuff moves need to buff/debuff multiple stats to be good spam

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something to do with "But it failed!" being faster than "X's Sp. Def cannot be lowered!"

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thats why aaron's defend order works but anyone using double team doesnt

royal jolt
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H o l d
U p

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10/5 Diantha is possible

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HOLA MI AMOUR

true locust
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You can get all rewards even today

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Just need comeback and some runs

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Boring event too easy

royal jolt
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YEAHAHAHAHAHAA

still hearth
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A bit higher

fluid tendon
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I could have gotten a bit higher if I had +6e on gladion but volo held it down

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Exr on gladion would've gone a long way too

cursive linden
royal jolt
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Oh my god

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I'm gonna use Self Destruct

fluid tendon
cursive linden
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Yeah, fuck that shit 😭

fluid tendon
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10% ain't that bad

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I don't think I needed any other rng to go in my favor

plush palm
royal jolt
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Lol, ty!

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I don't know who to awaken next
But, my gut says Nemona

fluid anvil
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Sure, she she was the best Ghost 3v1 until SS Ingo
10/5 SS Korrina is now probably either equal or a bit better than her.

royal jolt
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Yeah
The discussion was between Cynthia and Korrina though

plush palm
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steven finally becomes usable at 10/5 lol

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but mine is stuck at 6/10

royal jolt
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Just because you're correct, doesn't mean you're right

fluid anvil
royal jolt
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Likely, yeah

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She still has Ghost Zone and SEUN

plush palm
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i wish i had a better option for enabling her

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lenora takes forever

cloud timber
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it's fine to opt for debuffing spdef only so that's why chase + dc blue was an option despite being physical

plush palm
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wait what

fluid anvil
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SSRC + Fall Allister (he has para at 3/5) + new Lillie is probably the best Cynthia team now and might be the second best overall for 3v1 after SS Ingos
Allister is slow, but Lillie now fixes that
you would need to get great Shadowball debuffs rng tho

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-2 ghost rebuff

cloud timber
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ssrc's main mult is smarty pants

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more important to max that out than to debuff defense

royal jolt
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🤭

cloud timber
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gg

royal jolt
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The craziest ending, too

vapid kernel
royal jolt
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MY BABY IS SO BACK!! 🥹😭🫶

Skill gear specs:
+85 Sp.Atk
Special S-Moves ↑ 2%
Critastrophe 1%
Opp Status Cond: S-Moves ↑ 4%
Opp Int or Status Cond: S-Moves ↑ 2%
Fairy S-Moves ↑ 3%

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crude sandal
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AS Diantha when

royal jolt
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The first Arc Suit I will 5/5

pallid girder
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Don't know if ppl notice it. Fairy got boost to 7.95M, outdmg ArcCynthia and became top 2 again.
I'm guessing it's bc of HLillie right?

cloud timber
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not really enough evidence for that compared to just being 10/5 penny

vagrant ivy
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no not really

cloud timber
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but it could be

vagrant ivy
pallid girder
cloud timber
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yeah direct confirmation would do far more than anyone else's guess

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but lillie's b move does help get around reaching max cap on gladion's second b move

copper otter
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Arc Lance/Holilillie/SSR Cynthia gaming?

cloud timber
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that's what i'll be running but it prob still won't come too close to ss ingo bulds

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too many things going for him

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also curious if h lillie/redlax ends up being remotely as optimal as i initially suspected, redlax tm being 3 seconds faster than lillie's seun does matter but it's not as much a difference as expected and doesn't add an extra passive mult like other standard options

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won't apply to ss ingo or ssrc most likely

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having to not rely on pep rally does save time too

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so chase and nc blue remain relevant

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also rip to the people who can't afford nc blue but if your resources are limited you'll have to miss out on some things

pallid girder
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Chase will always be relevant bc eva is one of the biggest factor to go higher.

sullen zephyr
plush palm
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chase or bianca depending on the comp

plush palm
royal jolt
lethal siren
plush palm
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or drop either lys / serena

restive galleon
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Should I use ss leaf over sslyra since I can't use interference?

crude sandal
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Both of them are useless

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Since both of them rely on status and Barry is immune to them

icy pendant
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Yeah you’ll likely get a much better score just with SS Erika

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with Holiday Sycamore and Aaron as the other teammates

restive galleon
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Aaron over colress?

icy pendant
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Colress doesn’t work like you think he does for this mode

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Screech spam is slow and Thunder Wave spam is even slower with the no status parameter

restive galleon
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Yeah I'm cooked

icy pendant
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Feels like something isn’t set up right, Aaron takes 2 actions and then he spams because of Sycamore TM

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
restive galleon
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Atleast hilda clutched it to 1 mil

true locust
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Arc cynthia is long time was no top1 but leon

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I told leon hit harder

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Fairy need 2 gladion miss like befor so heavy rng🤣

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Leon can hit 9m less rng

cursive linden
fallen trail
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i reached 1.9 mil with that exact team lol

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same move levels and everything

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my hilda and morty are exr though, exr on morty matters quite a bit

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for that ss erika team, i think your sun is running out too quickly, her sync without sun is pretty pitiful

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remember field effects last 45 seconds by default, so she would need 2 mprs to last the whole fight. but you really don’t need any at the start when setting up so just 1 is good

plush palm
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Hit 2.3m w/ that team

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exr hilda

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morty not caked

plush palm
brisk shale
olive wraith
true locust
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Yeap better brendan

icy pendant
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Brendan may not be EX-able in which case he’s not better

cloud timber
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may be possible to fit in a second seun boosted b move but just an experiment anyway

dense gate
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I’m considering swapping BP Barry and Melony since Fire has higher damage potential. I was barely able to get in Arc Leon’s last sync and b move as is, so I kind of doubt I would be able to get an extra sync with sing spam

vernal orbit
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Does sing spam work vs barry who's immune to status conditions or will the message pop up delay me too much?

cloud timber
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much worse lol, avoiding burn doesn't do enough to make up for infliction freebie and no support/sprint, no time to fit in b move for seun for final sync

vapid kernel
vernal orbit
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FujiBow thx

cloud timber
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gauge might not survive anyway with melony even with triple burn and speeding sun

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if you used melony

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i know newer account so you could lack ex elio but in case you have it

vapid kernel
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Allister, chase and h lillie hopefully thts good for tmr

dense gate
cloud timber
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aye

cloud timber
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minor improvement, can def do more but done with this, thought not using max flare to save a seun for first b move would get more damage but apparently not but still got more sync crits

brisk shale
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But committed to ex to use for cs and bulu solo too

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And that let's me prob get top 500

stoic crest
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For the challenge what are my best options? I have stuff like red lax, chase, and NC blue.

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Please ping me

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I mainly want rewards I'm not too concerned about scoring high

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If I do great, if not oh well

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I was thinking leaf, Morty, and maybe colress for fire? No clue about grass and water

icy pendant
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Grass is going to be close between Adaman and Brendan, I think it’s Adaman though. I don’t see Holiday Sycamore there which is a premier partner for Aaron on the spam side, you may need to get creative.
Water is just a question of if NC Serena at 1/5 can outnuke SS Misty

stoic crest
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Since that stage wants special

icy pendant
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Cerena’s optimal teammates are Chase + Melony/HLillie/Dahlia

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Grass is Aaron + uh… do you have SSA Cynthia?

stoic crest
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Yes I do

icy pendant
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Her then

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Your grass probably is close to clearing 1m on its own in that case

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(for reference I’m at 1.35m with HSycamore instead of Cynthia on the same team, and I think I could optimize further but I don’t remember)

stoic crest
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What exactly does Aaron do? Let alone Cynthia...that's an interesting combo.

icy pendant
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Aaron is for Defend Order spam, and Cynthia maxes his defenses right away

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Sycamore gives you an extra stage of rebuff in exchange for only +4 defenses (so Aaron needs to full HP Heal Order and Defend Order once before spamming), but with Adaman’s rebuff and -6 defense potential you actually don’t miss that much damage with the rebuff

stoic crest
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Ah that makes a ton of sense. Is there a specific grid I want for anyone?

icy pendant
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I think just Team Full-Bracing Infliction 1 for Aaron, Cynthia would like Impervious if she’s 3/5 so she can tank but otherwise most of her grid slows her down, it’s debatable if you even want to sync with her tbh

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Cynthia’s biggest letdown for DC is her super long entry animation but this is really the only time it’s worth running her

stoic crest
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Thank you I will give this a whirl! Should be more than enough

thick stump
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Instead of doing heal order for +1 each and defend order for the other +1 each

icy pendant
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If Defend Order is a status move I genuinely forgot it was but also it makes sense that it is because what else would it be

thick stump
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Lmfao

icy pendant
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well now I have a great reason to go back and improve my score

thick stump
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Whoops

icy pendant
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either way Cynthia doesn’t care what move type Defend Order is because she just gives +6

thick stump
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True

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Moreso meant in terms of h!syc

icy pendant
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yeah that’s improvement for me 100%

cloud timber
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first red sync doesn't get any offensive buffs and marnie doesn't get to +6 atk for furious brawn but lillie saves enough time to get another b move out at the end, boosted by pmuns from tm

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can get in one more pmun so i'll do that

dire spade
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Tempting to EX R SS Kris since no Dahlia, to team up with Chase and NC Serena HilbertHmm

pallid girder
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I'd imagine no spam is not good for NC Serena tho.

dire spade
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Well, guess I'll put a spammer at the cost of no rain LarryDead

cloud timber
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no 3/5 archie either right

safe prawn
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I don’t have champions spirit or cake to invest in VHop to go 5+ Mln so I went the dps route with 1/5 no ExR milo and 3/5 ExR adaman

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Still kinda paid off

dire spade
safe prawn
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Giving Serena rain or SEUN is the same so mmh… maybe ScSteven lol

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At least you add 1 rebuff and spam tackle 😅

pallid girder
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The issue about Serena dps is she has looooong animation for 5 hit move and all debuffs after that.
She prob can still 1M with pure dps, but never better than just spam sync.

loud cedar
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ghost later magnify

royal jolt
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SS Korrina time

pallid girder
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SS Ingo time RoxanneThis

cursive linden
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SSR Cynthia time

hollow wadi
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Agatha time

still hearth
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Allister time

daring oyster
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ny dawn time

fluid tendon
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Lillie time

long silo
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I just did this earlier and I am too lazy to reset for the 10% miss for the millionth time

rotund sierra
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stone garnet
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I never thought scoring this high

royal jolt
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I think I'm fine staying there

cloud timber
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should also be able to top off lillie's special attack

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ramming speed and bottom right tile for smun on sing are essential

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don't take troublemaker

rotund sierra
cloud timber
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you still want to get in as many sync buffs as possible yes

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but most of your damage won't come from syncs directly

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cloud timber
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yeah

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cloud timber
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could be worth running bp valerie for sync damage and run off raw sing spam

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cloud timber
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grid grand entry for max spa

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snorlax

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seun is only making a major difference for first b move though

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since she provides her own seun for the following b moves

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you prob also need to space your b moves enough so you can build smuns in between with sings

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cloud timber
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her sync output is so low and redlax tm is slow enough that it'll just hold you back unless you're certain you aren't fitting in more syncs regardless

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cloud timber
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you may be syncing with ss wally to maintain her own seun

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cloud timber
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correct

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cloud timber
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yeah with b moves being the focus the strat is much less usual, could take time to perfect it

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cloud timber
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with redlax you'll need grand entry 2

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cloud timber
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yeah

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cloud timber
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yeah that's good

icy pendant
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This one’s gonna bother me, got a full hit Earthquake at the end costing my ability to use Lillie’s B move before last sync

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cloud timber
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i'd go for 3 tms first

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cloud timber
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yeah it's likely we won't get gauntlet in january if they don't want to overlap high score with it like they have in the past

civic island
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Is sticking to hs1/adr1 the best? Or we still get some extra time with ppe2?

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*for h.Lillie

cloud timber
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accuracy is not real

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i replaced ppe2 on melony/elio already

civic island
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Oh noice, i can skip dropping 300 bronze deluxe then. Hs1 here we go

cloud timber
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out of 2*s?

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those are best for getting entry skills

civic island
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Got only 200 of *2 LarryDead

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and no LG this month

dense gate
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Better than 0 deluxe cookies (help me)

cloud timber
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yea for pinpoint entry 2 you're 6x more likely to get it from 2* than 1*

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so 200 is plenty for that

civic island
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Ye, saving bronzies for mindgames

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Dropped hs1 guaranteed cookie
Lillie looks great sprint supp w sing VoloStonks

dense gate
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She’s easily going to be my pick from mix scout pity if I don’t get her from dailies

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civic island
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50 base
+50 from field role / extension 5

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cloud timber
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yeah if you use first zone below 1:40 and second below 0:50 you have them last the entire duration without running out, but sometimes you'll need to use wtz sooner

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circle lasts the same duration but its fade animation doesn't consume time

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icy pendant
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Sing is never succeeding on the team comp you were suggested, so SMUN is never a factor

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oh that's on use and not success? so it's not optimal because all the other ones slow you down probably way more time than they're worth

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cloud timber
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i can't really give too many details since i haven't been able to use 3/5 lillie myself

cunning rock
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ST Ghost is next reset. Think SS Ingo would bring better numbers than SSR Cynthia?

cloud timber
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he did over 4m already? not sure but ssrc didn't go nearly that high in single

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we'll still see how much arc lance and h lillie can improve her

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but ingo being the best is hardly a question

cunning rock
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Neat, I don't have Chase, and I ran into issues with gauge when I went with SS Ingo as the spammer.

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And that was with +6 speed

cloud timber
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yeah 2 bar spam is not easy to work with without chase, usually i'd use larry to have best possible gauge and also supply rebuff

cunning rock
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I have Larry at least, I'll probably run SS Ingo, SSR Cynthia, and Larry.

cloud timber
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is your ss ingo not 3/5?

cunning rock
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He's just 3/5

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With EXR

cloud timber
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you won't need ssrc

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you need support ex

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and ingo will do all the damage

cunning rock
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I'll probably slap HLillie onto the team then.

cloud timber
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can work, will be able to use something other than larry too like redlax

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or nc blue

cunning rock
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I'll try with Redlax since double Support/Sprint with SEUN is nice. I'll probably fish for 1 Ingo MPR on T1

cloud timber
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yeah that can work out

warped gulch
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Yeah, Redlax is nice for that team

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His TM is long enough to stall for gauge

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cloud timber
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nice, that already outdoes my 1/5 h lillie 3/5 ss wally score

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cloud timber
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she's quite an overperformer damage-wise, idk anyone that expected the output she's proven

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ss ingo/redlax/larry may be the call

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royal jolt
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I'm so close to pitying Holillie
I'm so mad I won't be able to use her here for fairy

cloud timber
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maybe it still helps setup somewhere

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cloud timber
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nice gg

warped gulch
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I’ll try this team for ST Ghost

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The gauge should be fine

rain copper
royal jolt
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Not superawakened
Actually F2P, imo

warped gulch
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I can woke him rn

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But i rather save it for Selene or better, Spheal

old valve
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If my best damage dealer for fairy 3v3 is a 1/5 SS Gladion should I run it with 3/5 EXR Red or 3/5 EXR NC Blue

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And if it's Red

Do I save a SEUN for B Move or nah

unborn otter
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Cs2 fairy gear

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Tr1 on hlillie

cloud timber
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dunno if 1/5 ss gladion is better than 3/5 bp valerie but if you're using him you want to do whatever you can to max out his b move output

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zone, rebuff, seun, debuffs, smun, basically everything that the penny/ss wally team does

unborn otter
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No tm mpr on v hop

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What’s a better team with v hop? No milo or hsycamore. Have 3/5 ssac

cursive linden
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Now let's see who's better

cunning rock
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Lodge Dawn? She gives faster setup for Aaron and can max out speed via TM x3. Plus she has +3 Evasion when she syncs

unborn otter
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None of my teams have adr1 or hs1 WEEZing

cloud timber
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i'm unaware of how the gauge actually works out with ssac/aaron but i don't think v hop benefits from sun

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lodge dawn may actually be better

unborn otter
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Oh, must have been an adaman team

cunning rock
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Yeah, it's likely Adaman or even Brendan, VHop has 0 Sun related tiles on his grid

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He just wants GT

brisk shale
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brendan only has speeding sun 3

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charging sun is for moves

cunning rock
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You want max speed for Brendan anyway because of Inertia.

unborn otter
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What l dawn grid?

cunning rock
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Probably just something like this.

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Just make sure that Lodge Dawn is tanking to make use of the self evasion

craggy pond
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whos the f2p water option? for special dmg nuking
is it may (swampert?)

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since the sheet doesn't have any f2p water clears

cloud timber
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ss misty is a bit preferred

craggy pond
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ah i can try her!

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and probably PB Silver over 1/5 EXR Hilda ?

cloud timber
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spammer should be bp barry or elio for sync power flux purposes and you need to make sure she gets +6 spa +3 crit, best way to handle blind spot is to reset for +2 eva on first water gun afaik

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yeah

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i think so

craggy pond
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noted noted. for grass - 1/5 adaman or brendan?

cloud timber
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brendan

warped gulch
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Brendan’ll be better

craggy pond
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neat ok thanks

warped gulch
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Also for that grass stage, you’ll want to use Aaron or Oleana bc no status rule

craggy pond
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i see aaron / brendan / hilbert clear, is nc blue an improvement on hilbert

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since hilbert is for +speed,crit and supp sync if im correct

warped gulch
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Yes

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NC Blue should be an improvement

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3/5 also has debuff

craggy pond
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right then ill probably throw melony red with silver... unless ss ingo?

cloud timber
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and the sync boost passive

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thing is

craggy pond
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yeah the debuff on sync is neat

cloud timber
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ss misty really wants that one turn max offenses

craggy pond
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oh right so nc blue is good there

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melony + ss misty + nc blue?

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oops

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i meant nc blue

cloud timber
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not melony because you'll run into trouble with sync power flux

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elio will be fine

craggy pond
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ah hm so thats why you said barry

warped gulch
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Barry is better bc Sync Power Flux

craggy pond
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neat (<- has never used ss misty except for haze)

warped gulch
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Tbf that is the unique thing from her

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For fire, you’ll use Silver right ?

craggy pond
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yeah probably silver

warped gulch
cloud timber
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i would prefer elio

craggy pond
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even with sync power flux i mean

warped gulch
craggy pond
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who's third then? silver already does sun.... gordie fire rebuff?

warped gulch
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I’ll run supp Ex

craggy pond
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oh red SEUN + supp sprint

warped gulch
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So you shouldn’t have trouble to reach max gauge for Sync PowerFlux

craggy pond
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oh elio can still get to basically full i see

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wait silver can do SEUN on TM... how do you play his buffing though?

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oh and you need to max inertia...

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maybe just run hilbert

warped gulch
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At 1/5 he can give +4 speed aoe

craggy pond
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oh :O

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neat he's 2/5 i could fish mpr

warped gulch
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He also can debuff Def Aoe with his Max Move

craggy pond
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as for attack i guess 2x TM plus max knuckle from red?

warped gulch
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Yes

craggy pond
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he'd also need red TM for crit ... i guess his own SEUN is just wasted

warped gulch
#

Bc Red already gives SEUN so you dont worry about reset for Silver’s Tm mpr

#

Which way less rng and bs

craggy pond
#

yup may as well take it off for faster tm

old valve
#

Oh right the super sparring is up

#

I totally forgot lol

craggy pond
#

yeah almost did too XD ends tmrws reset

old valve
#

And right while I'm still getting my stuff set up on my new computer so I don't have my sync pair tracker ready guhhhhh

#

Anyone have suggestions for damage dealers? It's this lot and like uhhhh SSHilbert is the only other type specific relevant unit I can think of that I own lol

#

Hilb is 1/5 EX though so probably not too relevant?

craggy pond
#

dang running out of red tm is annoying (no MPR proc'd...)

#

but even so they still did 900k+

#

we'll see if i bother coming back to that

old valve
craggy pond
#

im in the same boat as you running silver, ss misty and brendan

old valve
#

Oh and the EXR'd units here are Clavell, SS Morty, Gloria Alt 2, NY Wallace, and SS Lyra

cunning rock
old valve
#

Roger roger, thanks for the suggestions!

cunning rock
#

Lodge Dawn + Aaron should be solid for you in Grass

old valve
#

Ooh, the def buffing countdown strat

cunning rock
#

Grass is status immune so it's really Aaron or Oleana for spammers

old valve
#

Oh wait hold on I can share one of my older limited unit lists from back when I was on the laptop

#

This is from near the end of November so it should still be mostly accurate

#

In case any of this info helps

old valve
warped gulch
old valve
#

My Steven has a head start 1 lucky and first tm cosmic power kinda does the same thing so lol

cunning rock
cunning rock
warped gulch
old valve
#

What about stat share makes Aaron faster anyways? It doesn't even trigger when he's maxed as far as I've seen from using him for this sort of stuff before

long silo
#

How long does Allister's restrain last

cloud timber
still hearth
cloud timber
#

1 of lillie's b move for last sync

#

also i have gear boost for user status condition and i got poisoned so 3% off that

old valve
#

I've been tryna pull for Lillie, no luck so far

cloud timber
#

i got her first multi TabithaHehe

old valve
#

Hopefully I can scrounge together a spark by doing some of the ultimates lol

cloud timber
#

but yeah this is still getting nowhere close to what ss ingo can do

bright niche
#

Best Ghost team for today's DC??

cloud timber
#

do you have ss ingo

#

bc it's something involving that

olive wraith
warped gulch
#

Ah yes, my first try

old valve
cunning rock
royal jolt
#

I got Holillie

#

and a balance of zero gems

#

literally zero

old valve
#

I'll try runs with both tbh

cunning rock
cloud timber
#

109k gems left

cursive linden
#

Her spam is so bad 💀

cursive mauve
plush palm
#

weirdly enough im having the issue where evasion is too good and silver aint even reaching his second sync so no SEUP

cloud timber
#

ssrc only gets 2 seuns off shadow force in multi

#

they only sync once in single

plush palm
#

oh well

#

might be better off running bianca then

cloud timber
#

yea

cursive linden
#

Poisoned........

#

Btw

#

I got POISONED TWICE

scarlet ivy
#

I have horrible dodge/SHY/Para luck lol

cursive linden
#

AND I THOUGHT NATURAL REMEDY CAN HANDLE IT

scarlet ivy
#

first time like ever, I top 10 something

#

lol

cloud timber
#

i got a 1.7m run with one more sync than the last but no b move seun and first sync didn't crit

#

and recording didn't process

scarlet ivy
#

if I had 2 MPRs on Ingo

#
  • good dodge luck
#

i could've gotten 1.8k i think

long silo
#

Silver (Poison) 🤝 Barry (Burn)

cloud timber
#

confusion probably isn't worth it

scarlet ivy
#

it helps reduce animations, or am I missing something

cloud timber
#

it adds more animations

warped gulch
#

Lucky Ingo didnt have it

cloud timber
#

bit of lag every time they try to attack animating confusion

warped gulch
#

But still

scarlet ivy
#

Mine also has no SP

#

fwiw

#

but yeah, I could try without it and see

warped gulch
#

Just confusion

cloud timber
#

didn't recall that off the top of my head but if that's the case then keep it ofc

warped gulch
#

Also it is very close to Brainpower too

cunning rock
#

SS Ingo isn't hitting 1M without Ghost Zone LarryDead

cursive linden
#

IS Hol. Lillie too fast for SSRC?

cloud timber
#

no?

cursive linden
#

Hmmmm

warped gulch
#

Most ST stage cant reach 2nd Sync

cunning rock
#

DC Wally is really good at enabling SSR Cynthia

vapid kernel
#

Nice

cursive linden
#

Aight fuck this shit

#

What's the next DC?

vapid kernel
#

Time for Allister...

cursive linden
#

Triple Fire

long silo
#

Get your 10m now

cloud timber
#

you can definitely do better with elio to max debuffs and remove speed

#

i did 4.2m in multi

cursive linden
#

Sorry, my omni candies are reserved for the future Arc Suits

long silo
#

Understandable, preparing for 10m bug

pallid girder
#

600k for 1/5 IngoAcerolaPensive

plush palm
#

looks like the score for 1v3 is way lower than i thought itd be

#

hmm

#

At least for ssr

true locust
#

Score is low since silver have alot aoe moves

#

And speed

#

And he can poison

#

This is realy annoing round

cloud timber
#

can still get to 7 total syncs with max mults and debuffs

#

but it is very annoying

plush palm
#

at this point i might as well give up on evasion and just go redlax

#
  • elio
#

wait no mind games rng sucks

#

bianca it is ugh

cloud timber
#

output suffers a lot if you can't do much for smarty pants

spiral halo
plush palm
#

best case scenario ssr has enough time to get off a shadow force

#

otherwise yeah i cant push too much higher

#

shadow force hits like a truck tho

vast glade
#

Not bad. Lillie was poisoned near the end but I am happy with the outcome as I couldn't crack one million the first time this stage ran

cunning rock
#

10/5 Redlax MonkaScottie

plush palm
#

red has fans lol

true locust
#

Not realy sure he worth invest special for dc change nothing at all

cunning rock
#

The Max Countdown 2 should help for sure.

vapid kernel
true locust
#

She not base on poison?

safe prawn
#

Btw I made some testing and 3/5ExR ingo > 3/5 ExR Cynthia > 3/5 Ex Ingo

#

Guess who forgot the tech cake WEEZing

cunning rock
#

Yeah, Allister is Poison + Restrain for sync nuking tiles

true locust
#

Lol

#

Then i would use nc blue not chase

#

You low spe def

#

Para not need and alister just 1 move max sts

warped gulch
pallid girder
#

Almost

fluid anvil
#

There was a 4M+ clear with 10/5 SS Ingo as syncer back on 3v3 ghost stage

#

Normally that can be recreated or improved on 3v1

cloud timber
#

i wasn't sure if i was making that up or if it actually happened

#

we do have a 3.7m up at least

#

this round

vast glade
old valve
#

Does Lodge Dawn's Fail Forward waste time or nah

#

I'm kinda worried about my gauge production for this grass fight

cloud timber
#

it does

true locust
#

He use more moves then sides

#

And you need aply confusion 2/3 times

#

On side its just 1

old valve
#

EXing SS Misty after she got trash talked to hell and back in a friend group of mine for aaaages feels weird lol

#

But hey

Whatever damages your challenge

plush palm
#

shes not terrible in lg either so...

#

not the worst ex option

old valve
#

Oh crap sync power flux

Not sure who I should set as my countdowner if that's a mult I need to care about here....

plush palm
#

honestly youll wanna have most of your techs ex eventually

#

elio

old valve
#

i. uh. used elio for silver.

#

would anyone else work lol

plush palm
#

barry

old valve
#

Good point

#

Fun fact the devs don't want you to know about btw

#

BP is actually short for Barry Points

#

Oh right Barry means I can run anything I want in slot 3 lol

scenic grotto
#

An interesting comparison
This was before realising that I forgot to have Victor use haze for the “increase sync damage when opponent has 0 stat buffs” multiplier

#

This was my score after removing the opponent’s speed boost

cursive linden
#

500k seems to little

#

Until you realize that it is from one of the shittiest ghost nuker

old valve
#

What's the short form term for units like Victor and Spectrier anyways

cloud timber
#

outperforming allister is not bad

#

e victor for event

old valve
#

Event, got it

#

Anyways uhhhh shit what do I do for my third slot alongside misty

cloud timber
#

she can't buff her own offenses so anything that does that

old valve
#

Barry will be covering at least one side of that

#

...Dare I EX my 1/5 SS Mina and get rain?

#

Oh wait evasiveness i need to buff that still

cursive linden
#

Guys

#

What about Helena?

old valve
#

I do have a 1/5 EX Chase...

#

Though he might slow things down with that hp restoring passive? I guess?

vagrant ivy
#

allister....

#

think ill just stick with morty

#

or even fantina DPS

cursive linden
#

I swear if this is gonna work......

plush palm
#

unfortunately no tech ex

cursive linden
#

400 fucking k

#

Helena are you serious

vagrant ivy
#

still above allister

cursive linden
#

You're just a regular ass unit

vagrant ivy
#

katherine isn't that much better tbh she peaks at like 530k

#

i love stock trainers

#

i mean all she has to work off of is one innate and smarty-pants which isnt alot

cursive linden
cloud timber
cursive linden
#

WE WILL ACHIEVE 1M

cloud timber
#

for special attackers

#

though 2/5 and 3/5 are pretty big upgrades

vagrant ivy
#

allister's multipliers are reliant on poison which sucks

#

well its virulent toxin 5 + restrain

#

still surprised that hes not even getting 500k, might just be optimization

cloud timber
#

he's gotten 628k in the past by pykuo

#

with ex e victor

#

and melony

old valve
#

Ain't no way my ass is missing top 5k THIS closely. Gotta figure out how to improve these

vagrant ivy
#

id ex ss misty and switch elio with bp barry

old valve
#

.

#

I forgot to ex Misty.

#

how did I forget to do that.

vagrant ivy
#

that should be like 800k to 900k?

cloud timber
#

with ss misty you need chase 100%

#

no better way to max out blind spot

vagrant ivy
#

DC blue is a potential sidegrade but needs 3/5 + EX

#

and needs chase TM MPR

#

which is 3/5

old valve
#

I do have training tickets spare in case any of my DC units would benefit from a 3/5

vagrant ivy
#

you dont have melony?

cloud timber
#

melony would be good for fire

old valve
#

I do have Melony yea

#

I used Elio becuase I wasn't so sure about the whole "getting enough MPRs on silver to max attack and apply SEUN to all of his syncs" situation

cloud timber
#

it'll help ss misty to have elio free

old valve
#

Any particular reason beyond the spatk ramp?

#

Also does this mean I have to set chase as target so he inflicts para

vagrant ivy
#

faster spam than bp barry

#

no, they click spread moves

cloud timber
#

sync power flux, propelling move keeps up the gauge while not proc'ing 100% of the time

#

never set chase as tank

#

in dc

old valve
#

okay whew

#

I was worried

vagrant ivy
#

the solution is either a. para with HE9 boosted thunder shock or b. let them hit u with a spread move

#

its rarely ever setting chase as tank unless you are supremely confident in ur evasion luck

old valve
#

As for the propelling move stuff uhhhh

Sounds good and I'm sure it will work out better overall but I'll have y'all know that I WILL be incredibly anxious about clicking sync while I have like 4 or 5 gauge instead of 6 every single time

old valve
#

So spread it is

cloud timber
#

chase's gauge is extremely good so the wait will be super minimal if there at all

vagrant ivy
#

you can just pop TMs to burn time before they click their first spread move

old valve
#

Should I wait for 6 gauge every time?

vagrant ivy
#

i wouldn't

#

unless its for the last sync

#

quantity > quality

old valve
#

Fair

cloud timber
#

go with that

old valve
#

Alright, resetting fire and water for Elio strats with now-ex'd-I-swear SS Misty

#

World's dumbest question but I fear I must ask

#

For post-final-sync: would Elio's Sparkling Aria deal more damage than Misty's Water Gun

cloud timber
#

ofc

old valve
#

I'll click water gun too if I have time for two becuase the smun stacks from Kanto Analysis should make the first water gun decent at least but

#

Yea

cloud timber
#

if you don't have the gauge for another sparkling aria maybe

#

worth ignoring smun over

cursive linden
#

😭

#

What the fuck

cloud timber
#

wild

pallid girder
#

(Repost) From Kolin: yes its Lillie not Penny.

old valve
#

Preeeetty good improvement

vapid kernel
#

Leme see Excel wait

pallid girder
#

I feel like 1M with just 2/5 SS Ingo is possible but need a lot of luck. (currently 900k)

true locust
#

Just need 2 fleur miss and alot miss so you spam sing for special up

#

Plus you saw they 2 time hit them self in confusion

#

Alot rng

vapid kernel
old valve
#

Much better

...but now I kinda want to sneak into top 3k if I can lol

plush palm
#

highest i think she can push on my comp

old valve
#

I only got two SEUNs on Silver that run so I could just fish for more

plush palm
#

needs her to delay her SEUP for a bit w/ flinches

#

and evasion shenanigans ofc

#

amd have like 5 secs at the end for shadow force

old valve
#

I think this is the first 5/5 Renegade Cynthia I've ever seen

#

Powerful

plush palm
#

lol weirdly enough i got her 5/5 w/o pity

#

That luck aint coming again

#

used the pity on sonia back then

old valve
#

Impressive

plush palm
#

shes a favorites so yeah

#

Would love it if nc blue was so generous...

brazen dew
#

Finally crossed 1 mil on single ghost. 3/5 lance should get an extra sync or 2 as he can enable sing spam

cloud timber
#

3/5 arc lance with h lillie is quite good

#

can get up to 7 total syncs

vagrant ivy
loud cedar
fluid anvil
plush palm
#

weirdly enough you can sorta "save" ssr cynthias SEUP for later if you flinch gengar w/ bianca enouh times for her to get 1-2 syncs in before SEUP

fluid anvil
#

is NCblue + Lillie or Arc Lance + Lillie better for Cynthia?

cloud timber
#

the latter probably

fluid anvil
# cloud timber

Did you use Lillie b-move for SEUNs ? If so - how many times?

cloud timber
#

0 for that run

#

7 total syncs, first cynthia sync didn't crit

fluid anvil
#

dont sync with Lance, right ?

cloud timber
#

yeah no need

#

only need one successful sing and lillie's tm for gauge

#

so +4 but you can do most of the fight at +2

#

over half

fluid anvil
#

so never used moonblast?

cloud timber
#

never

#

ghost zone management can be annoying since you'll get to cynthia's first sync faster than at a comfortable range but you still want zone up for that sync

#

so on some runs you can be out of zone at a bad time

#

but you'll get 7 syncs if everything goes smoothly, no need for flinch or full para or anything

#

with decent input precision

vapid kernel
#

So do yall use Lillie's B move under any circumstance

General survey

#

And no i dont want on-type answers

thick stump
#

no reason to use it off type

acoustic chasm
#

If you can fit 1 before the last sync I don't see why not

thick stump
#

her b doesnt do anything for off type though other than free move next for everyone

#

which really shouldnt even be needed since you (should) have everyone at +6 speed

vernal condor
#

and seun lol

acoustic chasm
#

She gives SEUN to everyone

thick stump
#

oh ill be so honest i had a brain fart LarryDead i saw off type and was like "oh seun doesnt apply"

#

then i remembered all of dc is on type

acoustic chasm
vernal condor
#

para

cursive linden
#

At 3/5 btw

#

Oh well, i'll accept top 1k

cunning rock
neat raft
#

1m now possible thanks to Lillie PoryWoke

fluid anvil
#

1-1,5M was always possible with SS Korrina

true locust
#

Lillie b move is way too long

#

Sad part off use it

fluid anvil
#

why use Lillie and not Fall. Allister?

true locust
#

Test it out

#

If you could use 2 lillie b move befor last sync she would be same 4m+ score

#

This run miss 2 sync crits

#

But no time for it you would need avoid like 90% off moves

dense gate
#

BP Barry was kicked off the team now that I could EX Elio. Melony didn’t have much gauge issues with all of Arc Leon’s residual damage

true locust
#

Melony need fast track whit leon

dense gate
#

That would work too. I have Adrenaline 1 on her

true locust
#

Most use is head start

#

When you sing spam adrenaline is not the best

#

Just its like nothing in time when you sing spam

dense gate
#

Oh is there a delay with adrenaline?

true locust
#

Yeap

#

Its why i switch my melony long time ago from it

dense gate
#

I see. I guess not with head start since it’s at the beginning

true locust
#

Just in some specific run maybe better

#

But for basic sing spam no

#

When you need use some moves in order after sync you need it but sing spam is best head start

pure stream
#

Is it possible to hit 275k or higher against Silver?

icy pendant
#

With what damage dealer? Most can clear 275k by a very good margin

pure stream
#

Morty + Drifblim

#

Ex and 5/5 with a grid

#

And crit strike 2

icy pendant
#

should be yeah, he hits 1m in 3v3 so his expected 3v1 value is right around 350k

dense gate
#

Sounds about right. Got 310k with EX Morty but using steel gear

icy pendant
#

Because the nonlimited options are so bad someone should have a fully f2p clear in the pinned doc

pure stream
#

You have to give it gear?

dense gate
#

Just use ghost gear if you have it

icy pendant
#

Gear is nice for a small stat boost but you should have a much better bandanna by now than a +35 Atk one

pure stream
#

Can we upgrade the gear by chance?

icy pendant
#

Type gear yes, but I was thinking skill gear

#

I think the minimum bandanna roll is +45 Atk so it would just be matching one of Morty’s theme skills

pure stream
#

Skill gear is a thing? I know about type gear, but not skill gear

dense gate
#

There might be a special feather you can use on skill gear bracelet for attack which would give you 60 attack without needing to reroll.

icy pendant
#

#1147355613198815352 if you’ve played an event in the last year you probably have pieces already

vernal condor
#

It's nice to see Fallister have some real utility outside of LG

dense gate
#

@pure stream the Christmas event will give you both a bracelet at 4000 pts and a feather with gym leader theme skill at 4600 pts you can use for Morty.

pure stream
plush palm
#

yes

#

skill gear extra stats+sometimes skill w/ 1-5% dmg boost when condition is fulfilled

#

theres def better options than the one from events but those are hood enough for now

pure stream
#

Why is it not letting me give it to them?

#

It just has my main character bracelet, but not the one I just made

icy pendant
#

wdym?

#

Did you make a bracelet or another type of skill gear?

pure stream
#

I’m trying to battle with the bracelet I just made, but it only shows the bracelet for main character

vernal condor
#

From that screenshot you don't have any other bracelet skill gear

pure stream
#

When I go to skill gear in the lobby, this is what I got. It shows the new one I just made

icy pendant
#

Yeah so you made a pin and not a bracelet

#

The pin only goes in the pin slot

pure stream
#

So can I still battle with it?

icy pendant
#

Yes but it doesn’t give any attack stat since you put the guaranteed feather on the wrong piece of gear to get attack buffs

pure stream
#

I can’t take it out can I?..

icy pendant
#

There is a way to feather refund but you are past the point to do it

#

Just using yellow feathers on a new bracelet should be good once you find a theme skill matching Morty’s, assuming you have some of those

pure stream
#

I have plenty of yellow feathers

#

So which one do I need to look for specifically?

icy pendant
#

Any of Morty’s theme skills. Johto/Gym Leader/Ghost all come to mind immediately for me off-hand, but he has 1-2 more I’m forgetting

glad kraken
#

Scarf and Supernatural, idt either can show up

vernal condor
#

the others he has can't appear in skill gears

#

it's only region, trainer class and type

pure stream
#

So what about this? He’s not a villain, but he does have ghost

vernal condor
#

Yeah that works

icy pendant
#

Skill gear requires at least 1 match, so that boosts any Villains or Ghost types or Grass types

#

Key word there is or (if it was and that skill gear wouldn’t work at all because no pair is both Ghost and Grass)

pure stream
#

Ahh I see

dense scarab
#

Would a non ex role SS Ingo hit over 1 mil? 4/5

crude sandal
#

Definitely

pure stream
#

Damn, I kinda wish SC Steven would stop getting poisoned so I can do what I need to do

long silo
#

@warped gulch what does the Oleana max move do in your Grass 3v3 clear

dense scarab
long silo
#

Lmao SophoKEK

#

I thought it was a +reading moment but thankfully not lol

#

Anyways thanks for that vid. Glad to have a confirmation that I can only really do three Mix Red syncs

crude sandal
#

But he's definitely the spammer

dense scarab
#

I have nearly everyone

#

Was trying with Chase + HLillie but results are meh

vagrant ivy
#

sure I’ll take it

long silo
#

I can improve Water but N is being annoying. That said, should be enough to hold top 500, I hope SabrinaPray

plush palm
#

might not be enough

#

Event ends tomorrow?

vernal condor
#

Yes

plush palm
#

ok yeah you might be fine

#

sitting at 431

#

probably gonna drop

icy pendant
#

Just confirming there’s no way I can hit top 100 with the teams I have + a 2/5 VMarnie?

#

Realistically need to find an extra 2 million somewhere and I just don’t see it

nova remnant
#

Has ghost ST always been this bad lol

cursive linden
#

Yes

plush palm
#

only 2 units capable of hitting 1m

#

so its not like theres a lot of competition

#

keep in midn that not everyone rolls the meta units

#

lots of people dont have ss ingo

#

im one of them

nova remnant
#

SSR Cynthia and SS ingo basically I assume

#

Yeah figures

fluid anvil
plush palm
#

oh yeah i forgot her

icy pendant
#

I could try Irida again, I haven’t touched this DC yet

plush palm
#

shes worse than ssr iirc

#

I hit 1.45m w/ cynthia

nova remnant
#

Pecking order multiplier Marchopium

icy pendant
#

definitely worse than Cynthia but I imagine Irida’s best comp is Chase Lillie and I have both of them invested now

plush palm
#

no lillie rip

nova remnant
#

I did ST when it first came around bit I forgot how much she did

#

Probably below 500k Copege

icy pendant
#

I hit right around 2.5m 3v3 with her on the first cycle but better teammates will bring the score up

true locust
#

You can hit way way more then this

icy pendant
#

In theory I could EX exactly one pair because I have 40 iChampSpirit and all of the 1:1 exchanges with iGoldPowerUp remaining for this month, but wouldn’t Marnie be the more impactful EX for Speeding Sun? The gauge on my team is quite awful

true locust
#

Marnie 2/5 can be too as well if she have cake and ex

icy pendant
#

Also Marnie EX would cost me 30 iGoldPowerUp overall and I’m not sure the return on that investment is super worth it

true locust
#

Gauge whit leaf you can solve

#

Ingo tmprs

#

Just need get 3 mp

#

Then buy time refil

icy pendant
#

I think my run gets 3 uses out of that TM lol

true locust
#

Total need 4

pallid girder
#

I'm quite sure SC Irida had 1M last time.

true locust
#

Plus you can save 1 leer for latter

icy pendant
#

but it’s more a question of is the investment worth it for basically just more training tickets

true locust
#

Lol depend wat you want:)

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All invest is always need think befor spend if leon you will be use after

icy pendant
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Leon is pretty distant in my to-EX lineup, I do want to invest more in him eventually but it’s hard to do that right now. As for tickets I’m at a whole 29 so it’s not going to meaningfully make a difference in getting another DC pair so it would just be for a title that I’m not going to use, more making sure I’m not leaving a ton of points on the table with the resources I have available to me right now

fallen trail
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barely squeezed on top 100 (this stage sucks)

plush palm
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i did a comp w/ bianca

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and dc blue

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finnicky tho

fallen trail
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i had to use the 2nd shadow force in the middle to replenish gauge for melony and i used 1 at the end

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it didn’t feel very optimal

plush palm
plush palm
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looks finicky as hell

pallid girder
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SS Ingo, SSRC, SS Korrina, SC Irida, NY Dawn
These are units that I know 1M in Ghost single (some require super rng tho)

fallen trail
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i assume ss ingo is outscoring?

vernal condor
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He is topscoring

fallen trail
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yea figured

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sprint tech combo is good for st

pallid girder
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Yes SS Ingo 3M > SSRC 2M at most > all others barely 1M

fallen trail
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plus zone w superawakening

pallid girder
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Iirc all st had at least 4 units that can 1M, but most only have 1 or 2 units super outscore (>2M) while the others just barely reach 1M.

pallid girder
dense scarab
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I have no idea how y'all are hitting 1 mil, I have the units but simply can't replicate

brisk shale
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can't replicate the sequence from a video or the damage?

dense scarab
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Both I guess. It's tough for me to study with a vid

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4/5 Ingo can't hit 500k, struggling to hit anything meaningful with SSR Cynthia, it sucks

nova remnant
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Perhaps you're just unlucky with the crit

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That or perhaps there's smth you're not fulfilling cus a 4/5 SS ingo should be able to 1m

dense scarab
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He's not caked unfortunately, also not sure of the ideal partners

pallid girder
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What team you were using?

dense scarab
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Used him, HLillie and Chase earlier

pallid girder
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SS Ingo can spam himself and Chase can maintain his gauge so HLillie is kinda useless.
I'll change to someone has zone, rebuff or SEUN.

dense scarab
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So maybe Yarrdenia?

pallid girder
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Also rmb to para before using will o wisp to spam.

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Yes Chase + Yarrdenia are supposedly the best team for him.

dense scarab
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I'd assume sync with both Chase and her first

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Both are caked

true locust
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Yes sync chase then gard for zone

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You need in grid ingo and gard have low spe def on entry

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Best grids

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Ingo sp3 crit 2

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Rest need head starts the best

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Ingo tm chase 2 special up

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Circle befor ingo sync also ingo need applt confusion befor his sync

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Also need use chase tmp for gauge acceleration when you low on gauge

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And chase you just use tm gard just sync don’t touch they moves gard nothing press. Chase only tmp circle

dense scarab
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Had to cake Ingo but finally got 1.3 Mil. Thanks all

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No Gauntlet for deluxe cookies sucks right now, no head start on Yardenia for instance

pallid girder
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It's really weird they eliminated LG this month...

nova remnant
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Would be pretty funny if the reason we got no LG this month is bc of Ray event lol

teal haven
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How do you use ingo? When I try to go with burning for the spdef drop it's too clunky to get many syncs in

vernal condor
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you don't burn and you don't drop spd with the b move

teal haven
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That's what I did with this run

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But I know people are getting 2-3m with him

nova remnant
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Those are done with Chase and Yarrdenia

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Where Ingo act as both nuke and spammer

pallid girder
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We don't use other spam unit with him. We spam by himself.

vernal condor
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that's not the thing to do

pallid girder
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If you don't have Chase it's prob hard tho, consideing NC Blue can't really support 2 bar spam in my experience.

nova remnant
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You need someone with MGA even with 6+ speed

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Cus by the late game it can be kinda hard to maintain his gauge use

teal haven
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Sonia could theoretically but it'd take too long to set up

teal haven
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That's what I meant

vernal condor
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NC blue can't really get you far

pallid girder
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If you have FAllister you can tank with him and get some gauge back whenever he's hit, but it's far from optimal.

plush palm
teal haven
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Well rip the dream ig I'm still recovering from "didn't play the game for 3+ years so I only have 286 total pairs" syndrome

dry whale
fluid anvil
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Do you have 3/5 arc lance to try instead of nc blue?

true locust
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Not sure if lance will be better?

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No sup sync speed itc plus sync boost up

dry whale
# fluid anvil Do you have 3/5 arc lance to try instead of nc blue?

I thought about that but, with these new yellow coins I would be 2/5 with Arc Lance.

Because one of my runs was pretty close with 3/4 Cynthia SE sync buffed . If all 4 were buffed it would have put me about 100k below my current score. So if we factor in fully powered Smarty Pants it might make up the difference from loosing the support sync buff.

fluid anvil
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Definitely dont candy Lance unless you really like him MonkaScottie
I'm just not sure if NC Blue or AS Lance are better here

vernal condor
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do calcs TabithaHehe

dire spade
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For the grass battle in the ranked, I saw some Oleana over Aaron. Is Oleana faster to spam than Aaron, or not really?

rare apex
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5 cynthia syncs. One failed to crit and my dumb ass forgor to swap CS2 for SP3

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plus a cheeky last second shadow force CynthiaSmug

vernal condor
torn lily
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Compared to the non-shiny one. 😅

cloud timber
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equivalent gear would have made that setup worse at a glance but it's possible to reset for mind games proc on blue

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i guess i can try it myself

vapid kernel
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Honestly i dont understand

Why is H Lillie b move stronger than NC Marnie b move?

royal jolt
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Could be a bit of a skill issue, but is SS Korrina's nuke weak?

glossy token
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i think i know the answer but just to check

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the condition for n's stage affects all phys right

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the wording makes it seem like its specifically phys attacks and not phys sync

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but that seems... off

royal jolt
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This is normal DC

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No rules

glossy token
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?

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isnt this where we discuss super sparring too

royal jolt
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Oh

glossy token
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sorry

royal jolt
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I thought you were asking me about the rules, lol

royal jolt
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Because back when we had ice, the condition was physical attacks were resisted

I used Hala and got abysmally low scores. So, I think it also affects syncs

glossy token
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o7 ty, i know ive been surprised in cs a few times expecting or not expecting things to affect things bc of weirdness with the use of 'move'

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just checking as i throw in a bad score before i spend the rest of my evening in a waiting room lmao

cloud timber
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i missed the two last crits and forgot seun but it's still the same sync count and we're dealing worse damage per sync regardless

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used mind games proc

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gear is 10% 100 atk compared to 37% 75

daring oyster
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supports only 1 mil IngoUp

cloud timber
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maybe if you had time to get out double spdef drop with potential defense drops on an early shadow ball you could safely pull ahead but that alone drops runs to 10% of what they are otherwise and there's not that much time on an average run prob

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but i did have like 9 seconds left on my run and could save more possibly with blue x speed vs lillie tm

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batman's run got seun on final sync so i need to match that

dire spade
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Gladly take top 500

cloud timber
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even if this does end up peaking higher the rng is atrocious, need 8% to get mpr mg2 and para

dense gate
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Morty did better than expected

cloud timber
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1.55m, missed mind games but fit in a shadow ball that double dropped -1 but no ending seun

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still inclined to believe arc lance is better but nc blue theoretical peak could be higher still

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just really ass

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elio could still be better than h lillie too

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for debuffs and canceling speed

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don't feel like continuing to grind though

dense gate
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Would you have enough gauge using Hol Lillie and Arc Lance? You do have both their trainer moves to help mitigate gauge issues

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Perhaps you could use one move with Hol Lillie at the beginning to get +2 speed. Her b move also stalls for gauge

cloud timber
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plenty, +4 spe and mga is more than enough

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+6 without mga however is not from what i tried