#Damage Challenge

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cloud timber
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10m lol

vernal condor
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I wanted to try Lillie but Red doesnt want to get the tm mpr

long silo
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MPR Simulator our beloved

cloud timber
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yeah that's why i started with nc blue to start with less rng, needing to use chase now though

plush palm
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idk how to optimize ss gladion w/o penny or ss wally

copper otter
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From my experience, Lillie B move takes ~10 seconds

vernal condor
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+300k than what I got on Archie Melony

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And that's with only -4 SpD

true locust
vernal condor
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5

true locust
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All super up next?

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And you use 2 rebuff?

vernal condor
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just 1 b move

warped gulch
vernal condor
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and yeah all seun

vernal condor
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you submitted twice tho CobalionSquint but ig physical moves do less doesnt affect that run in particular

warped gulch
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Yeah, i forgot it has reduce dmg

true locust
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You think you can use 2 rebuff or no time?

vernal condor
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You definitely don't have the time

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unless you lower accuracy and dodge a lot maybe

plush palm
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anyone has a ss gladion comp that doesnt need penny or ss wally

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i have a 1m clear but trying to push a bit higher

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redlax aint cutting it

scenic grotto
plush palm
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nc serena can def push higher than that

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like the 2.5m range

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saw some dude w/ 3m+

warped gulch
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2.5m is very high

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1.8-2m is more doable

plush palm
vernal condor
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that's not the same team tho

plush palm
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idk about redlax but 2m is a very realistic target

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melony might be better here tho

scenic grotto
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Elio has sing

cloud timber
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and a counterproductive passive when you have speed buffs

plush palm
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Melony is faster

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Can probably let you sneak a extra sync in

scenic grotto
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Ok then

plush palm
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run tm mpr tho if you are using melony

vernal condor
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melony red has no gauge

plush palm
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even w/ serena buffs?

vernal condor
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yes

scenic grotto
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Why did using Melony get me a lower score?

warped gulch
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Dont take Sync tiles below

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It is useless

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Sync tiles below is for Dark Sync

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So you just lose energy for nothing

plush palm
scenic grotto
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Oh, I see now

plush palm
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dark sync is super niche lol

late owl
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Just wondering is it possible for me to get more on the barry stage should i replace colress with adaman ?

plush palm
late owl
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And spam what with aaron ?

plush palm
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defend order

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add a para unit to the melony team

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shes useless w/o it

late owl
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Are you sure it will get me more damage colress can lower my openent defence but aaron ?

plush palm
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aaron can spam properly

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Colress cant

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not on that stage

late owl
scenic grotto
pallid girder
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Grass mt has special rule: no status, and that rule actually make twave/sing etc spam a lot WORSE than they should be in regular stage.
Ppl came up with Aaron or Oleana spam so you can proper spam in those stage.

late owl
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Does the grid on aaron matter then what should i pick on his grid

plush palm
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i think youre doing smth wrong. but i unfortunately cant uncake my redlax and serena so idk what that comp should be doing

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team bracing infliction

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and grab some speed nodes

pallid girder
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Oleana is the best since she need 0 setup time, while Aaron needs to suffer 1~5 defense order animation (depends on what support you bring, team +4 def & spdef help ease it)

scenic grotto
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Oh, that’s the issue
I haven’t caked NC Serena

warped gulch
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1/5 Oleana’ll need speed buffer

plush palm
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should still be hitting for more than than around 1m

scenic grotto
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I guess I should sync with Serena on my second sync rather than a second support sync

plush palm
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nah you can afford double support ex syncs

late owl
scenic grotto
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Then the only difference would be

  1. Gear
  2. My Serena isn’t caked
warped gulch
late owl
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My oleana is already caked

vernal condor
warped gulch
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So if you dont have it, stick with Aaron

late owl
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And also exed for the poison stage back then actually

warped gulch
late owl
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And which one that the best for speed buffer ?

warped gulch
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Idk bc it is really depend on your roster

late owl
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Just tell me which one do you think is the best i might have it

warped gulch
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Like if you have SS Morty, perfect

late owl
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Hmm SS morty i do have it 3/5 and exr

warped gulch
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Yeah that can work

late owl
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Aight

warped gulch
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But Morty also really good with Aaron

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And way easier to use

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So you can try both

late owl
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Hmm

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Yeah sure then if oleana didn't work i can just change to aaron

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My goal is at least 1M on that stage

cloud timber
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3m with no aoe sync

long silo
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Lillie getting 1m PrycePain

cloud timber
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no interference sync either

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h lillie ad xd

pallid girder
cursive linden
cloud timber
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her sync does suck esp at 1/5

cursive linden
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or is she just got carried by SS Wally?

cloud timber
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ss wally carries every fairy

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it's all b move dmg

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got in all 3

cursive linden
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Should i 3/5 Hol.Lillie?

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Maybe that HS1 can be a good thing too

cloud timber
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it'll be nice but it's not worth candies to get to imo

long silo
pallid girder
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There's someone did calculation but didn't pair her with SS Wally for some reason.

vernal condor
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Finally getting 1m on fairy

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I sync'd 8 times kek

vapid kernel
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Oh

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Today

vapid kernel
cloud timber
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it does 20k

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i used all 3 of her b moves

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likely not going to be the strat for single target when her b move output is 1/3rd but i dunno

fluid anvil
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10/5 Wally + H.Lillie + Chase the top 3v1 Fairy team?

cloud timber
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i know blue's output can be better than chase's if he gets equal syncs and moves but that involves mind games procs and not having eva will most likely make him worse

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chase favored but not extremely clear cut

cobalt jetty
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this team seems pretty okay

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these are still rookie numbers but seeing as how the only other scores i have in this range are with units with way, way more investment

cloud timber
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for 1/5s that's pretty solid

pallid girder
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Yes SS Gladion's score most comes from his bmove so at 1/5 with only 1 use you can't really break 2M.

sacred badger
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Noice. Very noice.

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I think i could run lillie here but she needs her exr i feel like

thin wren
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the strongest dc unit is here

vagrant ivy
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a part of me hoped HTG9 would make sing 3 bars so I can skip her

cloud timber
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queen slayyy

vagrant ivy
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now I’m out of gems and without the unit

thin wren
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I am gonna do dailies on her

pallid girder
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There's one magical card that can save your issue...

vagrant ivy
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eh

thin wren
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get her first multi smth

vagrant ivy
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can still 1m triple fairy without her

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but long term continuing to use elio isn’t sustainable

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if I can’t keep up with damage dealers I want to at least have the enablers ready

cloud timber
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elio is very sustainable, just the fun factor might not be but hedonic treadmill type stuff

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when are you ever gonna be satisfied

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have to call it somewhere unless you're working with infinite pools

thin wren
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funny how both primarinas are good in dc

pallid girder
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Nah dd are the core, especially in st.
I don't really think HLillie can help a dd that previously can't 1M suddenly 1M able.

cloud timber
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you can always choose how much certain things matter to you

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i think i'll only be using h lillie for one of the next 5 dcs, single dragon where i can replace elio while using arc lance

vagrant ivy
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oh well it probably won’t matter that much in the long term MinaSmile

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anyways time to do grass 3v3

cloud timber
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proper attitude

cursive linden
fluid anvil
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does Lillie improve top Water 3v1 score?

olive wraith
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do not to get a 10% rng,really good

cursive linden
warped gulch
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Idk how much with better gears

fluid anvil
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Chase/Serena/Dahlia - who is spamming status on that team? or its just dps team?

pallid girder
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In regular dc last time 3.5M was her best.

vagrant ivy
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honestly I expected worse

cursive linden
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Why is V Calem there?

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His Fairy Zone doesn't have any extension

rare apex
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✨ aesthetic ✨

icy pendant
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some zone is better than no zone after all

pallid girder
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Yes even egg Sylveon would be better in this condition.

warped gulch
olive wraith
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can be higher TabithaHehe

fluid anvil
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Penny still superior then SabrinaStraw

pallid girder
safe prawn
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Funny that my 3v1 is better than 3v3 SophoKEK

vapid kernel
vernal condor
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Ah he answered himself after

normal parcel
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I guess support sprint offsets the fact that Lillie has no accuracy nodes for sing

fluid anvil
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you can spam teeter dance like status ? RosaThink I didnt even know that

normal parcel
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You can as long as all 3 are confused

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Or in single target if the center is confused

safe prawn
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Got both fleur cannon missing
This is the best I can do without gears

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Not touching this anymore lol

pallid girder
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It's first found in Fighting 3v3 bc ppl dont want NC Rosa change back to psychic form and waste more time so they stick to teeter dance and it somehow worked.

vagrant ivy
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seems about right

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zone vs rebuff

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and left team actually got an extra sync out but still scored less

normal parcel
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I used it in fairy 3v3 the 1st time

vapid kernel
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Good

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I dont have Lillie EXR unlocked

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Shudve ended with Hau's dazzling though hm

normal parcel
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Should try her with gladion but I can't afford 3/5 right now

vagrant ivy
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did get the extra sync in

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where did her score peak at last time

zenith jolt
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So is Lilie a must now ?

misty forge
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Sadly gauge died at the end so no big final hit of around 80-90k

still hearth
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Also another good sing spammer for Super Sparring and such

misty forge
misty forge
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Risking 36k to get a dozen more tickets every month is very stupid

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She's a great unit but i wouldn't even remotely say she's a must unless you're consistently competing in top 5

olive wraith
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can be higherTabithaHehe

vapid kernel
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Ok this seems peak

vagrant ivy
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my answer to the no sync spam parameter

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I considered skyla for inertia and she actually can get 600k or so, this is only better because of 10 smun stack leaf storm

loud cedar
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oh

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oh god

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its fairy 3v3

vagrant ivy
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and there’s virtually no possibility for a fourth sync in either team

vagrant ivy
vernal condor
rain copper
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The problem is Inertia setup but there are some pairs that can provide both powerup and speed buffs

loud cedar
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ok 3.4 mil for this 3v3 im content

normal parcel
vagrant ivy
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no matter what I do, there’s gonna be trade offs

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doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t try other strats tho

pallid girder
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I know some ppl tried Lodge Dawn (+2 spdef, +2 speed TM) and prob +2 def on entry for Aaron so his setup animation becomes less.

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Actually what Aaron want is really less setup animation so you prob should find a support that buff + 2~4 def & spdef & +6 spe for him.

tiny mist
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what is the highest people have gotten with arc leon? and what was the team?

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burn reliance makes it too slow

pallid girder
vagrant ivy
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well I don’t got those so I’m just making do with what I have

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somehow I’m at top 1800 with 3.1m when the standard arc leon score is like 5m alone

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honestly quite surprising but it probably won’t last

tiny mist
tiny mist
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any video reference?

vagrant ivy
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he peaked at 10m+ with vMarnie and ss ingo but that makes me believe that even regular spam teams can score that high

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you are spared the need to run a paralyze unit bc arc leon burns on his own and can go for raw spam

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ss ingo is used for his evasion, and yea the gauge is enough to sustain 2 bar spam (somehow)

vagrant ivy
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it’s a teaser for the state of DC by 2025

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stay tuned…

tiny mist
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Do u have video of it?

vagrant ivy
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screenshots of it have been posted here earlier

tiny mist
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so not relying on burn at all?

pallid girder
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SS Ingo also burn all opponents in 1 turn & -2 team spdef on entry

vagrant ivy
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yes

vagrant ivy
pallid girder
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I think we had 9M video but need to look up

icy pendant
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yeah 9.1m has a video, 10.1m has a screenshot from Adam

vast glade
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Didn't try with Xmas Lillie but for this specific type, I think that's enough

misty forge
misty forge
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She's actually really great as a unit

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But scouting exclusively for dc is...yeah lol

misty forge
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Ingo Leon vmarnie

copper otter
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i say this, then i see sora with 5 mil

pallid girder
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She'll be used in ST too, and help SSWally do more dmg

copper otter
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Yea

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3 v 3, that's ss gladion's turf

orchid wagon
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last sync was out of rain, if i get lucky it could go higher

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i'm not going to try tho

vagrant ivy
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last sync was off circle but I’m pretty sure melony still peaks higher

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6 total syncs to even match the score

icy pendant
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7 syncs but no support EX from Lillie yet and first Serena sync was outside of circle so yeah… maybe 8 is doable with crazy dodge luck?

vast glade
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Penny offers an extra layer of rebuff + Sp.Def drops+more Sp.Atk Ups next

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More value for Gladion's nuke

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For everything else though? Melony is retired lol

vagrant ivy
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got the god run with 2 para procs and SEUN from max move

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fire can be considered done now

pallid girder
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When r we getting Mind Blown DPS run that get all high roll on SMUN stack one daySophoKEK

vagrant ivy
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if rng manip was a thing in this game

plush palm
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i hate trying to get the seed right

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So meh

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Also if rng manip was a thing wed all be getting every PF and MF 5/5 within the first few rolls

misty forge
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Well pulls are server based

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Iirc

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So not seeded

rare apex
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1.6m second attempt myself

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nemona alright

olive wraith
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can be higher TabithaHehe

crude sandal
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Any Dianthavoir clears?

scenic grotto
crude sandal
crude sandal
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Oh wait

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But I want superawakened Diantha with EXR

cursive linden
sacred badger
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Wats hol lillie for damage looking like?

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Grid i mean

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Something like this?

true locust
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Lillie striker🧐🫢

cloud timber
vagrant ivy
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hmmmmmmmmmm

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tbh i just SD 3 times at start anyway

olive wraith
cloud timber
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yeah that makes sense

cursive linden
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No brainpower?

cloud timber
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awful sync

pallid girder
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Will HLillie helps ArcCynthia score higher?
I mean the biggest enemy for ArcCynthia is her sync count but it can offset by HLillie from a certain degree.

cloud timber
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esp when you have ss wally on the team

vast glade
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Speaking of DC... Lillie has made my stock of deluxe cookies to be... one of each

cursive linden
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ARE YOU SAYING THAT SORA USES HOL. LILLIE AS A DPS UNIT????

olive wraith
vagrant ivy
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yeah...

cursive linden
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??????

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Wtf???

cloud timber
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interference sync usually not worth on that team

plush palm
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idk if theres a good ss gladion strat for peoplek w/o penny or ss wally

cloud timber
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maybe if you use it in single

plush palm
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bc what im doing clearly aint enough

cloud timber
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technically h lillie also improves but i assume you don't have that either

pallid girder
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My best advice is just don't hung up on it. 1M is 1M.

cloud timber
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^

vapid kernel
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Are my eyes working right cus i see 3.9M

olive wraith
cloud timber
fluid anvil
cloud timber
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possibly but the suggestion there was to drop elio

plush palm
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no nc rosa

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redlax is kinda meh outside of sync spam so idk man

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i finally get 1/5 volo ex on monday

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idk if thats a good idea

cloud timber
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well you're aiming to maximize b move dmg but redlax only provides support/sprint and maybe one seun if you can afford super syncer

pallid girder
plush palm
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do i drop in chase?

cloud timber
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sync accel actually does do a lot more work without a spammer though

plush palm
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why does physical gett the best supports

cloud timber
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chase is great for stacking smuns if 3/5, missing out on 2-4 smun without

plush palm
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nope

cloud timber
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kanto circle still helps, so does eva and ensuring enough gauge even through fleur misses if it's worth going spamless

plush palm
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2/5

fluid anvil
vapid kernel
cloud timber
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eva is worth the burn on multi, even potentially on single

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assumes chase isn't already doing a better job though

plush palm
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nope i aint even getting past 900k

cloud timber
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yeah likely not worth chasing more

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if you can't figure out other ideas to max out that b move dmg with what you have

vapid kernel
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First try

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Next gonna try Volo and then SS Mina

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These are real fun

true locust
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I see h lilli in all have🤣

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Dena make unit for dc

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Only bad is no sts drop like spe def and b move is too long

icy pendant
cloud timber
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trainer animation is fairly fast, attack animation is no longer than the normal attack, but the effects are necessarily going to take a bunch of time

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sync cd helps a little ofc

icy pendant
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also ~120 speed faster than Melony

cloud timber
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3s slower than redlax tm approx

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def coulda been far worse

fluid tendon
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I assume ppe2 is the play

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Assuming I can ever get silver cookies again

pallid girder
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I mean ease the rng to get 1 more sync is the most appealing part.

cloud timber
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accuracy isn't real

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i replaced ppe2 on melony/elio already

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didn't even bother with lillie despite having more than enough cookies for it

fluid tendon
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How much of a difference does it actually make? I know there was some talk on that a while back

cloud timber
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probably 0

pallid girder
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Since she has sprint sync just give her adr1.

cloud timber
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but you could analyze stuff a lot further to confirm

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looking at videos frame by frame

true locust
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Lillie if use sing and put sleep will be slower .

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She only good is reduce sync

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Vs melony

fluid tendon
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Having some actual utility for some comps is nice

fluid anvil
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she has speed buffs for gauge, thats even more important than sprint

true locust
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For fairy 3 vs 1 is nice

fluid tendon
true locust
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Nc blue and chase cover speed any way

fluid anvil
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if they gave her evasion tho..

fluid tendon
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Now we don't necessarily have to run chase and blue

fluid anvil
true locust
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This 2 pairs its 99% wat you need

pallid girder
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Yes ppl theorized previous team that can't use SE (especially NC Blue + Melony) all can use it now.

fluid tendon
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They don't have to be anymore

true locust
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And we can say lax 3 sup wat speed issue

pallid girder
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Which will impact some high score I guess.

true locust
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For lax is good lillie

fluid anvil
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nc blue is easily replaceable now if you have speed buffs covered
it was the combination of para + speed that melony requires, not much else

true locust
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Nc blue have way more then speed

pallid girder
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Chase team won't change much for sure, just Lillie give you less annoying rng than Melony.

true locust
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Cover alot things

fluid tendon
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The extra sync damage from blue is good

true locust
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Damage flinch para aoe low sts

fluid tendon
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But they're splashing stuff like that onto more kits now

cloud timber
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speed buffs still do save a bit of time compared to going through pep rally but redlax time save on setting seun is more significant along with sprint exr

jagged radish
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is lillie like amazing for DC? or is she like a slightly better melony?

cloud timber
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no passive sync boost does still hurt

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for fairy 3v3 she's amazing, less impactful in single

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mostly going to be a slight melony upgrade

jagged radish
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ty

fluid tendon
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I could see her getting better over time

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As better partners show up

cloud timber
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maybe more than slight

jagged radish
copper otter
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She can handle 3 v 1 fairy herself lol

cloud timber
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not the speed, it’s actually her b move power surprisingly

jagged radish
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hu, interesting lol

cloud timber
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also providing team seun

copper otter
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Just sayin, don't discount lillie as "just another Melony "

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She has the sauce, we just need master chefs

jagged radish
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yeah, wasn't expecting that high of a damage, with SS Gladion already though, and even SS nemona i was actually looking to c if she was a godly sing spammer lol as in damage i'm set xD

plush palm
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didnt get rhe b move off

jagged radish
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but it's good to see she can still pull her weight quite good, 4m is nice

plush palm
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ran out of time right before it

copper otter
cloud timber
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with chase you can always grind for just one more miss

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and it's much better than trying to get full para

safe prawn
copper otter
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You would need interference sync which is a timewaste

jagged radish
cloud timber
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not like she isn't doing anything for gladion either

jagged radish
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and well, that's really cool actually, i'll def get lillie but when a select has her lel

copper otter
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IF we ever get a select for sprint/field units

jagged radish
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was thinking more of holiday themed units

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but ye xd

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holiday themed selects*

pallid girder
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The biggest change is: previously the highest score of fairy st is actually still Penny + SS Wally + SS Gladion DPS team, but now HLillie will make it back to sync spam.

jagged radish
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well, she is worth my gems, gonna do the first tier of paid route and 5 singles lel, wish me luck

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spark

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no wayy

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cmonn

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f

plush palm
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i envy the people w/ the $$$ to just drop 10k paid on her

fluid anvil
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Lillie looks like she will boost Fairys 3v1 top score (especially after SS Wally 10/5), but not 3v3 score

cloud timber
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classic ss gladion team runs into issues with running into hard cap with b move so lillie has a shot at peaking higher

jagged radish
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isn't it 20? if it was 10 i'd drop them rn lol

cursive saddle
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Is head start 1 from Lillie sync grid a game changer?

cloud timber
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nope

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saves a single second compared to sing spam

pallid girder
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Unless you have more HS1 in the entire team, 1 single HS1 hardly change anything.

coral oyster
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Is there any way i can ger my score significantly higher? I feel like i could go much better in the water stage, i dont have redlax nor Hlillie btw

royal jolt
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What's the top score for triple fire?

cursive saddle
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10 million

coral oyster
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9 million +-

cloud timber
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you can use any support ex with para, doesn't need to be sonia

cursive saddle
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Just saw it from Reddit

cloud timber
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redlax ideally

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but there might be other better options

copper otter
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It's 10 mil from adasadas

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In this server

pallid girder
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Yeah redditor finally caught up to 10M arcleon and start the fight of is Lance or Leon the worst arc again lol

coral oyster
copper otter
cloud timber
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if you can't find anything else there might not be much you can do to improve

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team-wise at least

coral oyster
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Im actually pretty new at trying to do well in DCs/Su, so i dont know much other than usual sing spam, thanks for the help

plush palm
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ok managed to push a extra 400k w/ chase

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hit my limit

misty forge
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her Moonblast deals around arc leon's inferno damage

vapid kernel
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Still how do u get 4M with just 3 uses of her b move

azure vine
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How’s Lillie doing?

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In dc

plush palm
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amazing on type so far

copper otter
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Amazing offtype too

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My only gripe with her is that if you use her TM when speed is fully buffed, it will stall due to pep rally 2 proccing

true locust
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Yeap pep rally its take some time

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When i use it on oleana saw it also

plush palm
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gonna get her on a select

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too broke to drop 10k paid on her

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need to save it for ny and half anni

copper otter
true locust
#

Yep sprint field never happend

fluid anvil
#

they are gatekeeping Rei and Avery PrycePain

fallen trail
#

i also want her from selects but h viola is a bad sign…

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i cant afford to miss c leaf though

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i’ll see what next month brings

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she runs until new years eve so datamine should come before then

snow raptor
#

Is Lilie / Ingo the new Blue / Melony or is it not the way to see it at all ?

vapid kernel
#

Gettint good

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
plush palm
#

melony is accessible

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thats the important bit

#

not all players are rolling whatever meta pair comes out

true locust
#

F2p vs realy limited unit

#

Wat only in mix pity is sure you can get next update

#

Low chance in selects

plush palm
#

i honest dont care for ingo

#

cant afford lillie

#

seemes like chase / melony is way than blue /melony

misty forge
#

I'm kinda tempted by lillie because she's a cool kit with good outfit but like

Not too hot about it

#

I have all the gems but no real hype for her, i'd rather have scouted Sina or another niche character

vernal condor
plush palm
#

ever ruin a great run by accidentally turning on auto

vernal condor
#

Oop

copper otter
#

WAIT..... AnabelWtf

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o-oh....

#

oh....

vernal condor
#

Yup

still hearth
vapid kernel
#

The passive occupies some time

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Around 3-4 seconds per cycle

still hearth
#

Honestly pretty good, too bad it’s stuck to Alola, Water & Fairy

fallen trail
teal haven
#

If I got multiple para procs 2m is possible

#

Was able to get 5 gladion syncs in

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At first I went with elio cause alola theme boosts but he's a full on like 1.5 syncs slower than melony

still hearth
#

Maybe if I had her EX’d + R this would be higher

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But I mean Im literally working with a 1/5 Lisia

still hearth
#

Since 3v3 isn’t leaving till Tuesday

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So I will be able to EX + R Lillie

vapid kernel
#

Time to add 3 clears that break this SS gladion dominance

young tartan
#

Dumb question: I got Arc Leon cause peak song key, but uhhh for DC, is it worth upgrading him to 3/5 or 5/5? And how is his damage compared to NC Leaf in solo DC (3V1 wise, I think Arc Leon is the best right?)
Ah I also have 4/5 EXR SS Hilda, so which one is better in 3v1?

still hearth
#

It is NEVER recommended to candy a pair simply for DC

cloud timber
#

i'd say generally advised against rather than never

#

bc in terms of tickets or rewards it won't actually help much usually

young tartan
#

Ok fair but humor me pls? Cause like he's an arc unit right? How bad can it be?

icy pendant
#

well you've seen his 3v3 damage right?

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for 3v1 take that, divide it by 3, and add back a little bit for enemies acting slightly less often

young tartan
cloud timber
#

3/5 is always a solid spot, 4/5 and 5/5 tiles don't help for dc

young tartan
#

I have not seen his 3v1 damage

icy pendant
#

at least two people have cleared 10m with max investment, but 3/5 gets most of it

young tartan
#

10m?

#

Oh this I gotta see

icy pendant
#

did I stutter?

cloud timber
#

3/5 is usually where you get most of the sync power and arc leon is no exception

#

along with many other crucial tiles

young tartan
#

Wait do I need variety marnie for this?

cloud timber
#

nah

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but she helps ofc

young tartan
#

That sounds utterly broken

rotund sierra
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

pallid girder
#

Yes you should never use that in dc, also most status related passive in grid (like buffing when using the status move no matter it success or fail)

rotund sierra
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

acoustic chasm
#

PB just by replacing Penny

plush palm
#

wild

pallid girder
#

Almost all status spammers don't have anything good other than 2~3 tiles for their spam role.
Melony has it even worse and she's still considered top 1 spammer before.

plush palm
#

shes optimized for LG

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not DC

#

i guess racing rain and hasty hail are niche options

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i did get some use out of racing rain on a melony / archie / serena comp

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im a LG player so i dont mind her grid that much

#

shes actually very good there

acoustic chasm
#

Safeguard is pretty clutch there

#

Every damn arena has some status chance

plush palm
#

wish she had a way of settinf it that didnt take up time

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bc oh boy do i hate random heat wave burns in dc too

plush palm
feral hamlet
#

Oh, multi target Fairy is back. Is my best still BP Valerie here? No 1M again?

plush palm
#

hows ss wallys 1/5 dmg

#

i dont have him

acoustic chasm
#

Does BP Val still do more than Diantha?

plush palm
#

i want him bc shiny mega garde is goregous but im broke

vagrant ivy
pallid girder
#

SS Wally is always more supporting role even at 3/5.

cloud timber
#

he's there to set rebuff and put up fairy zone, doesn't have too much dmg on his own without 3/5

vagrant ivy
#

but all premium supp + BP Barry

plush palm
acoustic chasm
plush palm
#

10/5 diantha hits like a truck

acoustic chasm
#

Yeah so I've heard

vagrant ivy
#

idk if she does 1m without any premium partners

pallid girder
plush palm
#

not at 3/5 at least

cursive linden
#

I have a question for Hol. Lillie as a DPS

Why is it recommended to use this grid for DPS? How does it work? Sing 10 times then use Moonblast or B Move?

cloud timber
#

doubt it's worth wasting smuns on a moonblast

feral hamlet
#

Hard to have SS Wally on the team because then there's no reliable way to sync spam

#

Diantha basically doesn't do damage even at EXR. I guess BP Val it is

cursive linden
#

Which makes me questioning everything

cloud timber
#

exr diantha + ss wally + bp barry should be capable of 1m, got 900k pre-exr

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was 4/5 diantha but 3/5 exr is stronger

feral hamlet
#

These can certainly do half of that

cloud timber
#

though i also used 3/5 wally which helps a lot for discourage, worth using bp valerie likely

plush palm
#

weirdly enough i never got around to exing BP valerie

#

how does she perform on a bianca comp

feral hamlet
#

Yeah BP Valerie it is. One day I'll get an actual good Fairy striker

royal jolt
#

I think I'm gonna throw in the towel on triple fire 3M
Nothing has worked

cloud timber
vagrant ivy
#

is there a BP Valerie run that hits 1m without any premium supports

pallid girder
feral hamlet
vagrant ivy
#

only screeching twice to get more time is a smart play

#

all this time I’ve been taking the top left node for BP Valerie when the bottom right node costs the same energy and gives +5 extra attack

cloud timber
royal jolt
#

Not bad!

still hearth
restive galleon
#

Dang I love aoe stages

royal jolt
#

Her grid is so neat at +10E

vagrant ivy
#

the 3/5 ss mina experience

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where she does nothing but give zone

#

she basically has field EXR given that her zone is extended which is really nice

plush palm
#

idk how good it is if youre running exr on her

#

feels like her zone would run out

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if you set it before 1:30

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elio is probably better than her if you arent running another support ex

vagrant ivy
cloud timber
#

ok yeah extension 5 changes it from 0:50 to 1:40 like field ex

#

still if you use her as first sync it'll run out

#

maybe bp valerie setup does just take that much time

olive wraith
#

can be higherTabithaHehe

feral hamlet
royal jolt
#

Peak grid

pallid girder
feral hamlet
olive wraith
royal jolt
feral hamlet
#

Tech role on an old striker, and a Mega evolution at that, can only do so much

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Still gotta see if Double Down will help me break 1M. I capped out at a low 800k

royal jolt
#

Oh, right
I didn't mention she's 9/5

So, her sync is like 436 BP

plush palm
#

so close to 10/5

#

gl

royal jolt
#

I look forward to using her when the third cycle happens 🙏

#

Or when they bring back Fairy to super sparring, lol

feral hamlet
#

Arc Diantha to make normal Diantha obsolete

royal jolt
#

Tbh, I have such a huge attachment to base Diantha
I'll just use both

pallid girder
#

Some ppl did think 10/5 Diantha is on par if not better than SS Gladion outside dc
But in dc you're not gonna do regular move a lot to stack the sa boost. DianthaSmile

royal jolt
#

In an ideal scenario, maybe she could rival him

But, yeah. I don't see how you'll get a good sync constantly

#

But, I'm so happy she's getting her redemption arc

I've always been her day one

plush palm
#

Im gonna get her when she becomes part of the monthly rotation banner i think

#

i think she's neat

cloud timber
#

looks like 10/5 has 1.5x the sync output of 9/5 assuming maxed devastation

#

pretty precisely too

royal jolt
#

Luckily, Wally is the perfect enabler

pallid girder
#

SS Wally is currently a must in any fairy comp.

royal jolt
#

Love that for him

plush palm
#

unfortunately i had to skip him

strong nexus
true locust
vernal condor
#

Not bad for a 1/5 Hop

cursive linden
#

What the fuck man

#

😭

pallid girder
#

1/5 can hit 1M is not rare in 3v3 but tbh most of them are mfs (NCMarnie, NCGladion, NCCheren, etc)

vernal condor
true locust
#

But i would use b move lillie insta since you not waist special up next on low damage 1 b move

olive wraith
#

maybe i will if I have 5/5 wally

true locust
#

Or maybe try nc blue? Para all and flinch all?

#

You get -2 spe def all

#

And more use wally moves for accu drop and spe def

#

Maybe get it in the end better then chase

olive wraith
#

I wil have NC blue at 12/25

true locust
#

You don’t have him? Lol

#

Im kinda shocked🙁

olive wraith
#

Sad story

cloud timber
#

i'll prob get to have 3/5 h lillie next fairy mt, even in time for st if it's worth it there and i don't 5/5 larry

#

have one sprint candy already

cursive linden
#

😭

#

What the fuck is that?

true locust
#

B move is hit good but way lower then gladions

#

Whit this sync buff itc he would hit 999k

#

Lillie i don’t like she set up all nice things mostly just for hear. Only 2 special up next for team in grid. Its sad she not sup sprint would be way better

#

Since she cant raise all sts

#

For ally

cursive linden
#

Lemme do the same shit with my Hol. Lillie

I have the candies

#

???????????????

#

GIRL WHAT THE FUCK?

pallid girder
#

At this point just drop Lisia lmao

cloud timber
#

you need something to output sync damage still bc lillie shouldn't be doing that

#

no tech or strike and one mult that's more optimal to not even go for and instead grid entirely for b move

unique abyss
#

I WANT LILLIE LarryDead

cursive linden
#

That's what i have been doing

#

And you know what?

#

None of the gears actually connected to Lillie

cloud timber
#

plus she's burning her own seuns on her own b move ideally and you can take advantage of team seun by using another syncer

cursive linden
#

Its just for Lisia

true locust
#

Lisia sure not need in this team

cloud timber
#

lisia won't need seuns though

plush palm
#

idk if chase is a option

true locust
#

Better zone set or rebuff or low -6 spe def

#

Then lisia

pallid girder
#

Wtf I though HLillie + SS Wally is HLillie sync all the times after the others sync once bc from the screenshot her dmg is just way higher but its actually not lol

plush palm
#

her b move is just that busted i guess

pallid girder
#

Oh SEUN save for bmove. That makes sense.

cloud timber
#

yeah it's really just her b move

#

1/5 does an amazing 20k on sync

#

if you do multiply lillie's output by 1.5x it does do better than that team though so fairy zoner is worth

pallid girder
#

Imagine if SS Wally receive sth like "opponents with rebuff: team dmg boost" for sa.

acoustic chasm
#

BETTER THAN MASTER FAIR NEMONA LMAAAAO

cursive linden
cursive linden
#

Now i want Arc Diantha to come soon

sullen zephyr
#

What's the consensus on hollie? Is she a significance improvement over melony/rosa?

cursive linden
#

Yes.

#

Even more than that

sullen zephyr
cursive linden
#

Because she is a DPS nuke

cursive linden
cursive linden
vapid kernel
#

Can soemone share a vid of H Lillie 3M strategy

vapid kernel
#

Idk if i should sequence her b move differently

vapid kernel
cloud timber
#

she's pretty big for fairy dc but not better than the classic team for multi

unborn otter
#

How to use this team. Asleoj has cs2 and no adr1 and hs1 on team

still hearth
#

Then sync with Lille, then with Leaf and then Leon

icy pendant
vernal condor
#

I stop there

true locust
#

Oho next is ss ingo time too shine🤣

#

Solo ghost

feral hamlet
azure vine
#

10/5 your diantha

#

You’ll get even more

#

that easy

feral hamlet
#

Sure, let me just casually drop 2 years worth of yellow candies on a unit that has continued to disappoint me LearWahaha

#

I'll probably pull for SS Gladion next time he reruns. They'll probably rerun that Extreme battle with Hau and I will not let that battle remain uncleared again

olive wraith
#

TabithaHehe can be higher

vagrant ivy
#

its pretty hard to decide the main damage dealer in this case

#

as its rare to see a supposed enabler do 2m damage on their own

true locust
#

And wally guy 6,7m same team

#

You have vid?

#

Sing special up from lilie i guess

olive wraith
#

I think I can sing 2-3 more if I have 5/5 wally

#

I dont know why it is a short video

true locust
#

I test it tommorow when max my lilie

#

Now she lv 98🤣

#

Less then 3m on yt its now short

#

Was befor 1m they change it

pallid girder
#

So Lillie did impact both fairy MT & ST in the end.

true locust
#

Already can tell you

#

First issue in your run need first fleur miss

#

Since this deal zero damage but waist alot time

#

Its same like penny run need 2 miss fleur

#

Lol why you not use 2 b move gladion? He

olive wraith
#

what I need is tmpr on Gladion,it is hard to get both together

true locust
#

You don’t need tmp

#

You low spe def from wally

#

Wat point raise wally sts any way

#

Better low def

olive wraith
#

no gauge on first turn

true locust
#

I did it this way

#

Fleur miss lilie tm then wally hit

#

Wally have this rotation gauge befor mid hit

olive wraith
#

No need to attempt a 10% miss again. TabithaHehe This is why I love Lillie so much.

true locust
#

If your first miss you have more time

#

So can use more sings

cursive linden
olive wraith
#

RoxanneThis OK.I will fix them to 3min next time

slate magnet
#

Lol, how does #1 even get 21 million points total

true locust
olive wraith
#

no special cookies!!so it is CS2

true locust
#

Hmm.

crude sandal
#

V. Hop can probably do close to 6M

#

And water might be Bede?

slate magnet
#

Lol dang

#

I’m so trash, not even 4 million total

#

I only got like 2.4million with AS Leon lol

#

I could probably sync nuke more instead of setting sun and using Serena for Hypnosis spam

crude sandal
#

AS Leon requires V. Marnie and SS Ingo

slate magnet
#

I see

#

I don’t have either lol

crude sandal
#

Right now, Leon claims the throne of the highest score in DC ever

slate magnet
#

Wow, that pretty nuts, makes sense though, tech + sync all

pallid girder
#

Having the right units is always more important than trying hardRoxanneThis

slate magnet
#

Lol yeah

crude sandal
#

Yeah

#

I pulled Chase out of impulse last time, but now he works very well

slate magnet
#

Chase is very nice most of the time for 3v3 dc

#

I like using him

crude sandal
#

Chase is mainly a special enabler

slate magnet
#

I use him for the evasion max mostly lol

#

Probably shouldn’t use him for almost all 3v3 dc, but it’s nice to not spend a minute on the opponent constantly using their moves and animation lol

crude sandal
#

I'm waiting for the day fairy 3v3's best damage dealer will be a sync nuker

#

So that all DCs will be only sync nukes, and not relying on move damage like with him GladionSip

pallid girder
crude sandal
#

And Cerena's best team is without rain

pallid girder
crude sandal
pallid girder
crude sandal
#

I just wished we have a rain setter with spam

#

Like a shiny Lapras alt with rain and Sing

pallid girder
#

Well if you say that we need EVERY types with 1 spam unit lol, so every types get to use its unique spammer.

hard sleet
#

Is VCalem as good as expected to be in DC I find it hard to spam charm

slender venture
#

Charm spam is not viable

#

Because it is not a spam move

vernal condor
#

Stat dropping/raising moves need to modify 2+ different stats to be spammed

hard sleet
#

And it has to be apart of base effect I presume

vernal condor
#

Wdym

#

Ah yes calem drops another with a passive right

#

Yes it's base effect

hard sleet
#

-2 spdef -1 spatk -1 atk

vernal condor
#

Yeah but Charm drops only 1 so it doesnt work

#

And it's -2 atk lol

hard sleet
#

Sad

#

I meant in general

#

He has P-move on atk down 9

hard sleet
#

Maybe could’ve done better

royal jolt
#

The more triple Fairy goes on, it's blatantly obvious how hard Wally carries Diantha

hard sleet
#

Mayhaps

#

Wonder how much 10/5 diantha gets prolly around 5 mil

cloud timber
#

can make it over 3m but idk about much more than that

scenic grotto
#

Saw this in pending
I am just curious as to if this team could potentially get 1m on fairy 3v1 if both SS Wally and Holiday Lillie were 1/5
asking because I am hesitant on spending 2 sprint candy on Holiday Lillie despite having her EXR and EX’d

cloud timber
#

h lillie can deal 1.2m off mostly her b move at 1/5 so in single that'd translate to 400k

#

dunno 1/5 ss wally output

#

but probably not worth the candies rn

scenic grotto
#

Good
H Lillie 400k + SS Nemona 600k = 1m

cloud timber
#

oh if you have that exact team already you can just divide the total by 3 and you'll get something easy to attain

#

since vast majority of it is aoe

scenic grotto
#

Yeah, I knew that SS Nemona would get 600k but wasn’t sure if 1/5 Holiday Lillie would be able to reach 400k for a total of 1m

cloud timber
#

right, right, well i could confirm that

scenic grotto
#

That would be nice but I have to go now, sorry

cloud timber
#

was on a chase team though so far from an actual 1m guarantee but no need for 3/5 in advance still

royal jolt
vagrant ivy
#

🤝 me whose 6 multis deep

#

guess im getting coal 3* PUs in my stockings this christmas

lethal siren
#

Which pairs for grass triple super spar

#

3/5 mix red

#

With

#

No status spam will work

#

One is chase

rain copper
#

Aaron

royal jolt
#

Oh, cool
You now get norifs for reactions 😭

lusty galleon
#

rip

vernal condor
#

You can remove them

true locust
#

Pull milo today and test him

#

Sad he cant low def on entry or rebuff from max move

olive wraith
true locust
#

No

#

Milo better

olive wraith
#

you get 6M?

true locust
#

If he is main target

#

Plus sync crits as well

#

Got way over 6m😘

#

Milo have no gauge issue

#

Plus reduce extra sync on gmaxs

olive wraith
#

good,proud of you

true locust
#

You have alot time sync oleana and milo and hop

#

Adaman b move slow run way more then milo passive

true locust
#

Milo

olive wraith
#

yes,5/5

true locust
#

This sure not need🤣

#

My grid and adrenaline 1

#

Best for him

#

But you can use no lucky skill like me🤣

#

When have adrenaline 1 no need fish for 1 miss then😋

olive wraith
#

MonkaScottie bad news

true locust
#

Lol you can choice

#

I did whit miss

#

Since milo waist delux cokies no lg never use him in dc after bad deal

olive wraith
#

3Galar

true locust
#

Yeap

#

But milo need get hit so you get from his passive boost

#

Use grassy terrain befor 1 hop sync for circle

#

And also need get used since each g max -1 extra sync

#

Need manage it

#

I some runs waist time haha

#

Since fogrot about -1 extra sync

#

And olena need low def from g max

cursive linden
# olive wraith

What's the difference between Aaron and Oleana 5/5? Besides the theme skills?

true locust
#

She faster spam it

cursive linden
#

Ooooh

true locust
#

And no need 5/5

#

She need 4/5 for dc

#

If want have all utility in dc

olive wraith
#

you pick chase down 3?

true locust
#

No lol

#

Way too far

olive wraith
#

MonkaScottie maybe continue Adaman

true locust
#

I use this

olive wraith
#

same

true locust
#

Have turbo turf solve gauge

#

On milo

#

You need more mprs on hop

olive wraith
#

OK

true locust
#

So get last sync 10 up

#

Milo give you alot time for mprs use

olive wraith
#

endless RNGBlaineOk

true locust
#

This is mode dc rng heavy

#

If you want get top3 need push haha

olive wraith
#

AcerolaPensive It depends on the situation.If the gap is small, I will give it a try.

true locust
#

In this run only one thing is bad is hop crits

#

Best not wait but push

#

Since hope on last minute rng will be nice may end badly

#

You may not get time for do it best do it now and pressure on others:?

olive wraith
#

TabithaHehe Assess the situation and then decide if it's worth doing.

true locust
#

Always worth get top3🤣

olive wraith
#

Hop use twice Bmove?

#

or not?just sync?

true locust
#

I got mp refresh simulator so went just this way

#

But you can do 2

#

If no mprs

#

But i would keep sync damage more

#

If cloud get chase down then would be better use 2

vapid kernel
#

Milo use

crude sandal
#

Is Milo like the only good unit with a counter passive

normal parcel
#

Got a pretty lucky run, not bad considering only gladion is 3/5

vapid kernel
#

And Chase also has a passive

#

Dodge is substituted by speed debuff

#

And no circle but hes good for physical setup

scenic grotto
scenic grotto
sacred badger
scenic grotto
#

Correction on the upload from yesterday, that wasn’t the best strategy as long as I wasn’t getting 5th (maybe possible) sync. Lillie just does such an insane amount of damage for a spammer, and while that B Move is painfully slow, during 3v3 Fairy is still is good to use because of the crazy damage output!

The primary change from 2.8M run is r...

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sacred badger
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Hrm

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Wew

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3/5 lillie

copper otter
#

"Lillie better than i thought"
WulfricKEKW

scenic grotto
#

I have 1/5 H Lillie
The video has 3/5 H Lillie

sacred badger
#

Iirc i hit 1.3m with ss nemo + penny

unique abyss
#

Tomorrow Lillie in the first yolo multi PoryWoke

vapid kernel
#

I got her in my 1st multi but im not flexing. I DESERVE that cus of getting shafted almost the whole year

vapid kernel
#

Oh zhit ghost weak soon

#

My best unit is my Allister

royal jolt
#

Single ghost?

#

Looks like it's SS Korrina time

cursive linden
#

SSR Cynthia

plush palm
#

Gotta wonder if its even worth it to drop to -6 for her

#

bc my best option is lenora

brisk shale
#

Chase substitute for SS Serena, dahlia?

royal jolt
plush palm
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might be better to only go to -4 or so?

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idk

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i dont have nc blue yet

crude sandal
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Isn't SS Ingo the best?

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Like best in both for nuke and for spamming?

royal jolt
crude sandal
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Especially since he has his own ghost zone via max move

royal jolt
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Try to get -4 on both defenses and use NC Blue to do the rest

cloud timber
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i thought ssr cynthia was still top option last time ghost single was around but idk ss korrina's performance

royal jolt
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She has the advantage of SEUN

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And Ghost Zone

royal jolt
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So, maybe she is better

crude sandal
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Meh, SS Ingo better

cloud timber
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yeah ss ingo blows everything out of the water this time

royal jolt
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Well
I wouldn't be surprised
But, we were talking between Cyn or Korrina, lol

plush palm
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i dont have him so LanceShrug

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what i do have is a 5/5 ssr

royal jolt
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Korrina has EXR over Cynthia, though

crude sandal
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Korrina can Fortuitous fish for evasion

plush palm
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might just run both tbh

royal jolt
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Barry spam

plush palm
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cynthia as korrina support

royal jolt
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Yeah

cursive linden
cloud timber
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ssrc/arc lance/h lillie for me

plush palm
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why lance

royal jolt
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Para

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Defenses

cloud timber
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debuffs

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and para

cursive linden
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He has para?

royal jolt
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Yes

cloud timber
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3/5

cursive linden
plush palm
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i dont have him

royal jolt
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Para / flinch at 3/5

cursive linden
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Para on hit or para when hitting?

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And how many%?

cloud timber
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without nc blue/arc lance you're prob going back to bp barry/lenora

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or ss hilbert

royal jolt
cloud timber
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actually dc blue/chase works

cursive linden
crude sandal
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I'm sticking with good ol' SC Irida

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Actually, Irida might be better since her set up is easier

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For this specific DC

royal jolt
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Irida > Korrina > Cynthia in terms of setup

crude sandal
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Also she has the advantage of being a special damage dealer so Chase/DC Blue will be beneficial for her

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And she can max out her evasion too

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So she can be 1st target

cursive linden
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I am making a tough decision rn

Should i 3/5 Dahlia, which use is only for DC and CSMM?