Damage Challenge

[vernal condor]

elio stonks

[cursive linden]

Shauna has skill issue

New update 2025: we can change whatever passive that we wanted

[rain copper]

time to add Hit: Fissure to everyone

[vernal condor]

sorry they're immune

[royal jolt]

Why did they have to do that?
It would've been SO funny to see Palmer just drop to a Fissure 😭

Like
If you actually manage to roll a Fissure in a UB, you should be allowed to have it go through

[pallid girder]

Fissure should be coded as "deal the exact dmg of the unit's max hp", so in Ground dc we can try roll fissure in 3 minutes and see how much score it outputs lol

[royal jolt]

Rolling even one would be considered god-like RNG

Missed a crit somewhere

[lusty galleon]

ST Bug time?

[unique abyss]

st bug? NOOOOOO

[lusty galleon]

time to bring Alder back again

[unique abyss]

Guzma for 500k

I have hilbert and 2 candies but idk if it's a good idea

[royal jolt]

I mean
He covers you for triple Bug, too

[lusty galleon]

yeah, Alder covers both

really wonder how high can a 9/5 SS Hilbert do

[royal jolt]

It must be insane

I don't think anyone has him there?

[cloud timber]

adam might

[cunning rock]

It sucks that Alder didn't get any 10/5 this month. He could have saved me from candying SS Hilbert if he at least got Tech EXr

[lusty galleon]

you'd SA Alder? lol

[royal jolt]

I had hoped I could get Diantha to 10/5 before triple Fairy, but oh well

She sits at 8/5

[vernal condor]

[lusty galleon]

ah yeah, iirc, you like Gardevoir right

[royal jolt]

Gardevoir and Diantha
I have a soft spot fot her

This awakening of hers is just
chef's kiss

[lusty galleon]

yep

one of the best damage wise lol

[cunning rock]

Meanwhile I'm using jank stuff like Lodge Acerola and Lodge Wally for some of my 1M runs

[lusty galleon]

I had my fun with SA Cynthia... sad they're not running some old banners in paid ones

[royal jolt]

There's supposed to be a bundle with awakening candies soon, so I might look out for it

[cloud timber]

i'd feel comfortable putting larry in generally good but it's largely bc he got me 1m for single poison and single flying

[crude sandal]

Imagine Diantha being the best at fairy 3v3 instead of our usual team

[cloud timber]

and he wasn't doing much before 4/5

[lusty galleon]

the Lodge Acerola is really fun to watch lol

[royal jolt]

If she out-performs SS Gladion with his B move, it'd be nuts

[lusty galleon]

the main thing of Gladion is that double B Move lol

[fluid anvil]

nah 10/5 Diantha only competes with ss gladion outside of DC
her damage build-up is too slow for DC

[cunning rock]

Tbh, she's perfect for physical DDs because she can reach +6 atk and +3 crit by herself with some MPR. Not to mention, her access to para and evasion (with speed)

[royal jolt]

Yeah

Gotta spam DG for sync up

Not really ideal

[lusty galleon]

yeah, the negative is all the skills proccs

[crude sandal]

SS Wally is her best enabler, but no spam besides BP Barry

[royal jolt]

Shout out to Lenora
I never cared about her until she kinda carried my SSR Cynthia in super sparring

[pallid girder]

NC Bede is useful in any dc?

[lusty galleon]

no afaik

[crude sandal]

Never

[royal jolt]

I've seen no one use him

[cloud timber]

oh you wouldn't be farming any symun optimally, maybe one dazzling gleam before last sync

[vernal condor]

He's not the best

[royal jolt]

His skills and additional effects seem too slow

[vernal condor]

But he has specific stuff in full DPS teams

[cunning rock]

Still, the fact that she has para + speed buffs + evasion means she can afford to run Melony with her. HLillie is gonna be miles better for her tho.

[lusty galleon]

yeah

[vernal condor]

Imo he's generally mid

[lusty galleon]

aight, time for Alder to see if he can beat his previous record

1.07M

[royal jolt]

He can hit 1M in single?

[lusty galleon]

yup

[royal jolt]

Damn
Look at him go

[lusty galleon]

just Hyper Beam lol

[cloud timber]

i've definitely been far more of a believer in larry as of late

[sacred badger]

3/5?

[lusty galleon]

nope

full invest

[royal jolt]

O h

[sacred badger]

Ooof

Gonna have to get ss hilbert up then

[royal jolt]

I'm very glad I don't have to rely on Alder for bug DPS

[lusty galleon]

https://youtu.be/qNVyvl8OCuE

this one was a run of the last time

I managed to push a BIT higher

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/xQU36STBiQA?si=uMQYd7tb-cJwlAOj
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2248184168

for the people curious about nc bede

[vernal condor]

larry really is the pair that stands out the most in his tier so i moved him

[royal jolt]

Here's a thought
Could Arc Steven hit 1M?
I think so

[pallid girder]

Larry is very fun to use but sadly in dc he's kinda outclassed by every other enhancers in most scenerio.
Hope he gets sth interesting for SA.

[vast glade]

Hilbert and Chase didn't refresh their TMs even once but it worked overall

[true locust]

If fubert have sure sync crit 10/5 prob after miss 1 sync 10 times in row i prob do it🤣 but this not solve his biggest issue need tmp and crit sync . Im happy whit my score:)

[cloud timber]

aye so not currently

[vast glade]

Also, couldn't help but think of how much better this run would have been if Xmas Lillie was out already

[cloud timber]

5/5 then?

probably higher than that

[true locust]

My is base fubert

[cloud timber]

gotcha

[sacred badger]

1m nice

[cloud timber]

9/5 could break 4m then

[plush palm]

Not sure why bianca is so high up when most of the time youd rather be using chase or a seup unit

[cloud timber]

she's been top performer a whole lot lately

[pallid girder]

Bianca + Colress is prob the best for physical build like Chase + Melony is the best for special build.

Even better than NC Blue + Melony.

[cloud timber]

also chase is special and she's physical

[vernal condor]

She's one of the best units for dps spam and she consistently performs well with physical pairs

especial in 1v3

[plush palm]

huh interesting

[vernal condor]

If there's a unit to be moved from the top it's SS Ingo but I think it's fair to put him there

[plush palm]

my only issues w/ her is needing to use sacred sword to buff evasion and no status

[vernal condor]

you use sacred sword to debuff defense anyway

[plush palm]

guess it depends on the comp

[long silo]

Bianca also allows Colress to spam w/o Charging Infliction

[plush palm]

Wait what

ok ive been doing things wrong

wild

[pallid girder]

Yes that's the whole point

[cloud timber]

yep

[plush palm]

so do you buff to +6 spe and eva

or nah

[crude sandal]

Pretty sure it is

[pallid girder]

Starting from the 2nd round ppl found 2-bar spam becomes more possible so some meta changed.

[long silo]

Yes. Altho idk if people actually do on 3v1, on 3v3 it's mandatory

On 3v3 Bianca hits each targets twice for -4 Def each (time it when the target moves so you flinch), then Colress does one final Screech

[crude sandal]

BTW, what is the best team during fire 3v3 again?

Before

[long silo]

Hilda or Leaf?

[pallid girder]

The most significant one is that NC Blue + Melony becomes a worse option than Bianaca + Colress.

[long silo]

I know Mix Blue got 3m but I thiiiink Leaf got higher?

[crude sandal]

Pretty sure SS Hilda was the main DD

[long silo]

But ye Hilda went 4m iirc

[vernal condor]

that is just false ?

for 1v3 that use a physical unit sure

[plush palm]

I had no idea holy shit

[vernal condor]

but nc blue melony is still double support, -2 def and spd, aoe para that kills gauge a bit like colress

[crude sandal]

I wonder how much AS Leon will do on both fire stages

[plush palm]

is dc blue a thing on non chase comps

idk

[cloud timber]

no

[vernal condor]

Not really no

I GUESS he can be used with NC Blue, if the stage has X Sp Def All

then both combined have -3 SpD drops and actually get smth lol

[crude sandal]

Ah yes, gauge problems

[vernal condor]

yeah

[plush palm]

well then ive been doing everythinf wrong

wow

[crude sandal]

What will AS Leon's best team be when the fire stages come?

[royal jolt]

Avery and Barry?

Just for circle

Idk

[crude sandal]

I guess no Scorching Sync on him

[cloud timber]

v marnie and h lillie?

[vernal condor]

yeah

I think so too

that or nc leaf h lillie

[crude sandal]

Does Leon need Scorching Sync or nah?

[plush palm]

is getting a extra sync worth 50% sync dmg reduction

idk

[crude sandal]

Maybe SS Ingo and NC Leaf will be best

Use Will-o-Wisp before Leon's sync

[cloud timber]

adam thinks melony will be good enough for gauge so for ranked that might be good enough

[plush palm]

i have ss hilda so leon is a waste of gems

bc kantrio same month

[pallid girder]

Do ppl think NC Leaf will still top fire st or Leon will outdmg her?

[crude sandal]

I think Leon will be better

[cloud timber]

i'd be surprised if leon didn't overtake

burn mult is gonna be way less punishing than in multi too

[crude sandal]

His B Move will be like AS Lance

[fluid anvil]

how so?

[cloud timber]

1x burn vs 3x burn

[fluid anvil]

Leon will beat Hilda in 3v3, but I'm not sure he beats NC Leaf in 3v1

[cloud timber]

much less suffocating

[crude sandal]

How does SS Ingo spam work?

[vernal condor]

average will-o spam

just that he has access to different tools

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm

Yeah, maybe NC Leaf/AS Leon/SS Ingo

SS Ingo has spam, circle, evasion and a multiplier for Leon

[vernal condor]

he doesnt have circle

he would be busted if he did

[crude sandal]

Oh?

I must've misremembered

[vernal condor]

it's emmet who got the circle

[warped gulch]

SS Ingo just really fast

With ton of Sync CD helps reaching 1 more Sync than normal spam

[crude sandal]

Let's see if SS Ingo is better than V. Marnie

For Leon

[vernal condor]

it's not these 2 that will be in competition

it's nc leaf and marnie

[crude sandal]

Nah, NC Leaf is there. It's between them actually

More damage or more spam is better for Leon?

[vernal condor]

nc leaf isn't there necessarily

[warped gulch]

Normally NC is great bc Supp, Sun, Fire Rebuff and Debuff

But Leon already gives -2 Fire Rebuff so maybe V Marnie is better for him bc Sun and Circle

[cloud timber]

^

[long silo]

Quick question

At what move level is SS Ingo prime for the spam

[vernal condor]

3

[crude sandal]

Leaf is there because she gives sun and Ingo does burn, sync spam and sync CD

[long silo]

Oh

[vernal condor]

2 if you use a physical dps, 3 if you use a special one

[long silo]

Mine is 1/5 lol but I'll eventually 3/5 because Chandelure

I just can't right now

||Ignore that I converted two Sprint candies to Woke candies||

[crude sandal]

Also, with V. Marnie on the team, do you burn only 1 or all enemies?

[warped gulch]

V Marnie also gives Sun and Circle on top

[sacred badger]

Whats VMarnies sync damage bonuses even?

[warped gulch]

She is a Field/Supp so you dont lack Supp Sync buff

[vernal condor]

well the thing is, the additional rebuff is +10% and SpD drops from leer can result in more damage than the circle

[crude sandal]

This too

[true locust]

Nc leaf have like marnie sun sup sync. But also 3 rebuff and low spe def for leon. Marnie have circle . So hard tell wat comp is better

[glossy atlas]

1/5 SC Irida or 2/5 Emma who would you candy?

[warped gulch]

Marnie’s Circle is a Def one

So it isn’t strong as Chase

[crude sandal]

Neither

[true locust]

We need test marnie vs leaf

But i will go leaf team

[crude sandal]

No, we need to test Marnie vs. Ingo

[true locust]

Ingo is out off question

[vernal condor]

wdym marnie vs ingo

stop with that comparison lol

[warped gulch]

Why Marnie vs Ingo

[true locust]

Ingo is worst choise for this team

[vernal condor]

they do entierly different things, there's no comparison to be made

[warped gulch]

Comparing Leaf and V Marnie makes sense

But why Leaf vs Ingo

[true locust]

You first lose syp sync and second you run gauge realy soon. And burn all from start again its bad play

[warped gulch]

One is a buffer with Sun and Circle

One is a spammer

[true locust]

We have 2 teams v marnie arc leon melony. Leaf arc leon and holiday lillie

All others are not optimal for leon

[crude sandal]

Ingo raises evasion too for the team

[true locust]

And wat after?

You don’t get gauge

Ingo is only chase team

Can support his gauge

[crude sandal]

Speeding Sun and Catalytic Acceleration

[true locust]

Acceleration will run out

Then you have no gauge

I test ingo whit chase so i now how it work

[crude sandal]

Use Ingo's TM

[true locust]

6 speed circle you easy have no gauge

Lol unlimited time tmp1?

[crude sandal]

Yes, like with Gloria back on steel 3v3

[vernal condor]

bruh

[true locust]

Still ingo its not optimal for leon

Even they miss they get burn damage

Leon whit burn sync multi we need be honest its not best for dc use

[crude sandal]

I'll do some calcs later

[pallid girder]

I just realize Melony is a Galarian so she boost Marnie's circle slightly more.

[cloud timber]

oh yeah that

[crude sandal]

Also forgetting to mention that Leaf has Potion spam too

[olive wraith]

mpr on Hilbert too difficult

mpr twice and all 4 sync crit

[fluid anvil]

SS Ingo doesnt only work with Chase, he worked with Yarrdenia + SSRC too
but yeah I dont think he is optimal for Leon

[vernal condor]

he works with e victor too for the poor people like me without yarrdenia

[true locust]

I now it haha suks badly

[crude sandal]

The only difference between Marnie and Ingo is that Ingo actually boosts speed for the team

[pallid girder]

They should give a status spammer "sure crit" that can apply to the teammates. It'll definitely sell for some comp.

[crude sandal]

If you go with V. Marnie and Melony, you'd have eveb worse gauge management compared to Ingo with +6 speed and one time MGA

[vernal condor]

v marnie melony is fine because marnie has speeding sun

[cloud timber]

1 vs 2 gauge is pretty big

[crude sandal]

And I'm guessing you'd only burn 1 enemy

[pallid girder]

It's certainly burn 3 imo.

[crude sandal]

Unless you're not planning to usr Scorching Sync at all

[pallid girder]

Arc Leon will be like Arc Cynthia. Actually sync less than other dd but still score more.

[warped gulch]

Well even if you only burn 1 enemy, Scorching Sync it still worthy

Bc what else you grid for him ?

[cloud timber]

yeah there's nothing else to go for

[crude sandal]

Well, burn is needed to unlock his B Move

[warped gulch]

[crude sandal]

[warped gulch]

[crude sandal]

So burn with Leon is almost mandatory

Tell me, what was the strat before with NC Leaf and SS Hilda before?

On fire 3v3

[warped gulch]

Burn 1-2 enemy and then spamming

Only burning side ofc

[crude sandal]

And what about Leaf?

[pallid girder]

SS Hilda can handle burn 1 only bc she has other multiplier that being better.

[warped gulch]

Debuffing

I remember debuff to -4

[crude sandal]

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/RsDnEDZGdt8?si=1Tg_ZKZjb270p3qw

Sadly i didnt have cake for Hilda

[loud cedar]

[cloud timber]

fury cutter dps from noland can boost that

don't know the exact team but it got to 500k, noland/guzma/something

oh it wasn't that

wasn't an f2p team

[vapid kernel]

Why the hrll Avery

[cloud timber]

nvm someone did hit 500k with hilbert #1255888121648644197 message

noland, guzma, base hilbert

[vernal condor]

Yeah that's what I did the first time

They probably copied it from the doc

[cloud timber]

ah

[vernal condor]

Or maybe I was the one who copied it, but regardless it's in the sheet

[cloud timber]

lol

[vapid kernel]

Wtf

[drowsy pier]

Are there non F2P ways to optimize the Fury Cutter team?

Like for example would 1/5 SC Ingo EX be better than Guzma?

[copper otter]

Hear me out.

[warped gulch]

You’ll not try debuffing to -6 Speed right ?

[cursive linden]

Only using the best boys out there

Amazing

[copper otter]

Hmm.

So toxic can be spammed with Chase, but icy wind is rough. I only went to -2 speed

[thick stump]

dc blue might be better

faster speed and helps w circle

[copper otter]

Nothing to proc cakewalk tho

Which was what I was testing

[vagrant ivy]

noland is a fraud

guzma stays winning

[pallid girder]

It's Fury Cutter reset by sync is the biggest fraud. Imagine Noland can sync on top of doing fury cutter spam.

[vast glade]

Candy Hilbert and changed his grid. Still no refresh on Chase

Didn't go for cakewalk and picked extra rebuff instead. Hard to set him up without a solid speed debuffer

[true locust]

Lol chase 10/5🫢

[vernal condor]

Well Guzma is the one syncing

But maybe

[vernal condor]

Toxic spam is slow because Hilbert lowers stats when using a move

[copper otter]

Yea i know

It was more a test on if icy wind was good for ss hilbert, but obviously not

[vast glade]

I am a Chase fanboy lol

Hope he starts getting alts soon

[true locust]

Then ok but you should keep 9/5 10/5 slow down chase in dc . Only good pasive for nc red

Since when you get special up its take more time and for most runs you don’t need it

[vast glade]

For my grid I am focusing on refresh for TM and adrenaline. Anyway, not going to lie, I was going to do SA for him regardless of meta anyway

Still bitter he didn't get rebuff or further sync acceleration though

[true locust]

Yes he got staff for lg not dc .

[dry whale]

Wow, I must have pissed the RNG gods off. Hilbert refuses to Crit. Been at it an hour and a half and have not come even close to my last season's score.

Rather take the week off than bash my head against that.

Also I am out of lucky cookies again. Leon took 65 and did not drop SP3

Here hoping next Gauntlet is an easy one.

[true locust]

We may also never get it back. If lg not drop next month its 99% end . And be replace whit new events

So i would not spend cookies for now. If some have low

[dry whale]

I'm ok with it not coming back as long as they give us a different avenue to acquire these cookies. For example put them in the Battle Rally shop

[safe prawn]

Im out of deluxe since last hse

[pallid girder]

They should've been put into the ls cookie stage in the training area day 1.

[true locust]

Some expect they can add this in this new shiny rayquaza event

Will see wat happend can be live villa was time event for cookies now you can do it when want .

[vast glade]

Honestly, not a fan of the gauntlet so if it goes away, I can't say I will miss it

The type master and even the super sparing are far more bearable imho

[true locust]

Its why they cut it from 14 too 7 day and now we not sure if it come back since not popular lg was

Alot feedback was complain about it .

Lg don’t have many fans

[pallid girder]

But Rayquaza event is one time event. If they're making lg have longer gap or even deleting it, they'd better give us another consistent way to get those cookies.

[true locust]

We not sure if its one time event

We can get just diffrent boss replace shiny rayquaza

[acoustic chasm]

I mean, I had to try...

Time to use a real team

[fallen trail]

1 mpr and 4 syncs all crit… not 5/5 so top 100 probably out of reach but this is good, main improvement would just be another mpr

[vast glade]

Not surprising as it can be very grindy. At least the other two require less battles to get all good rewards

With LG, you had to beat like 12 times to get everything. And we are talking about very long and drawn out fights

[normal parcel]

And top ranks are over 100 fights

Getting 12 isn't that bad because you can use all your best units, but for getting high streaks you have to do solos and use lots of bad units

[vast glade]

But even with top pairs, just those 12 can be super exausting and time-consuming

[vernal condor]

Nah 12 fights is only long and annoying if either you're a beginner or you have skill issue

And the "minimum" is 10 not 12

[proud minnow]

Yea, it’s not too bad for me at least

[vernal condor]

It shouldn't be bad for anyone

UNLESS there's Moltres then ok I understand, but even then 3 Moltres with overkill pairs is bearable

[torpid wigeon]

Lg is like the 1 event I never do because it's so unfun

And yeah i'm running out of cookies too - doing the first few got me enough to go on this long but after lillie I don't think I'll have any left

Ik i could do it much easier like a year later but i still don't find it very fun - at least with other modes it's strategic teambuilding and stage variety but lg is just use this piercing blows pair on the stage you've beaten twice already or use this other cheese pair don't care it isn't supereffective

[torpid wigeon]

At a higher level with solos and duos it'd probably be more "fun" to come up with pairs that can win but a lot of that gameplay is then just boring rng reset

[vapid kernel]

Happy

Next Steel is the time for Arc Steven and Steven to shine

Gonna get 1.5M i hope

[cloud timber]

sing appears to equate to 1.54 seconds which would make fastest possible 9x sings at 13.86 which seems accurate(?)

[vernal condor]

I figured if the timer is at 15sec after a sync, I don't have time to get to the next

17sec is very close, 20sec is a safe time usually (?)

Because sure there's the time that sing takes, but there's also the time you lose not clicking the move frame 1

[plush palm]

is sing faster than cosmic power / noble roar w/o animation

[vernal condor]

these are faster

[plush palm]

or tge same speed

[vernal condor]

but they take time to setup

they are faster because they can't miss, if your sing has perfect accuracy (or e terrain) it's the same

[plush palm]

so we should run TM1 on melony instead of HS?

[vernal condor]

TM?

[cloud timber]

troublemaker lags

[vernal condor]

ah no troublemaker wastes a lot of time

[cloud timber]

i'm actually convinced accuracy check doesn't matter

[vernal condor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCTxz0TX-y_D-Z5Dd0fJpBIdC-TXa2RoPDpLhJhcFlg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.w7pu16jncuor

[fair mist]

so just cope with imperfect accuracy?

[cloud timber]

and it would make sense why aaron doesn't actually seem faster

[vernal condor]

Im pretty sure it does but the diff isn't super big and hard to mesure

Pykuo did do tests

[cloud timber]

yeah it's not super conclusive

[vernal condor]

idk, i'll continue running it I think

[cloud timber]

or maybe it is but i'd prefer if other people ran more rigorous tests to confirm which idk if anyone would ever bother

margin is super small

i ditched ppe2

[fluid anvil]

I prefer adrenaline 1 on Melon

[vernal condor]

well if anything head start is more optimal than adrenaline since she has no other passive that activates on sync, so adrenaline would waste time a bit of time by activating, while you probably have some other passives activating on entry among your team

[fluid anvil]

thats how it works? hmm

[cloud timber]

there are some simultaneous activation things

not sure it applies on a single unit without wtz animation

[vernal condor]

If you have other passive activatings, they'll trigger at the same time, meaning you will lose the time of passive showing up but gain countdown
if you only have 1 adrenaline, only that passive will activate and the countdown will have to compensate from its own activation
if you have head start, all your entry passives will trigger at the start and lose time anyway so you might as well take the free countdown

that's how I see it

Adrenaline is ok on sprint pairs or pairs that already have adrenaline as they activate anyway so might as well get more countdown

I have adrenaline only on Chase and NC Blue as both have stuff activating on sync anyway, and for NC Blue specifically I don't want to try to reroll for head start even if it might be ever so slightly optimal

[fluid anvil]

ncblues -def/-spdef on sync also counts for this, yeah?

[vernal condor]

yes, but even without that he has the rebuff

[cloud timber]

i just give adr1 bc i still have guaranteed cookies for both that i just never used and i want to save hs1 cookies for things that won't sync

if you're rolling with 3* deluxes you just take the first one you get if you're always syncing

[vernal condor]

Yeah that's what I did too, I just get lucky with Head Start lol

[fluid anvil]

so on new Lillie adre1 is ok then .. since she has Sprint

[vernal condor]

Yes

[true locust]

The best is head start not adrenaline

[fallen trail]

adrenaline good on c rosa too

[teal haven]

Holy shit an unevolved popplio

It's beautiful

[devout pelican]

Ah, ST Bug, my nemesis

[cursive linden]

Next DC will be a glorious day for our glorious king

[crude sandal]

No

[plush palm]

my best option is double solgaleo lmao

[vagrant ivy]

actually maybe

10/5 poppy

[cunning rock]

My best option is Pal Marnie

She can actually get 1M in 3v3 tho

[long silo]

My best option last time was Rose. Steel DF is cringe

[pallid girder]

Yes Poppy might be the best.
Gloria doesnt get her 10/5 and exr yet this round.

[long silo]

I'll use this time. No VThorton sadly tho

[crude sandal]

Wasn't Gloria the best last time?

Poppy's 10/5 will only be barely better than Gloria's 5/5

Once Gloria has her superawakening and EXR, she's the best for steel 3v3 no matter what

[vagrant ivy]

stats matter more for poppy than the passive imo

[crude sandal]

Not even your king can surpass her

[vagrant ivy]

sure -2 sync CD on t move

which we didn’t have last time

other than that eh

[crude sandal]

Poppy will lose to Gloria no matter what in the future

[warped gulch]

How much Gloria got ?

[cursive linden]

I think Poopy 10/5 would also sell well

In 3v1

[vagrant ivy]

we shall see in march

nobody broke 4m last triple steel

[crude sandal]

She doesn't have yet

[cursive linden]

Because her B Move is now like what? 720 BP?

[vagrant ivy]

but last time arc Steven didn’t exist

[warped gulch]

No i meant last DC

[vagrant ivy]

neither did aLillie 2024

[crude sandal]

Prolly in the 4M range, don't remember

[crude sandal]

Ok

[pallid girder]

We actually can't tell who was the best bc the top 1 person isn't someone we know.
Ppl said Gloria mostly bc she's the one ppl try the hardest.

[true locust]

My boy rose is ready

[vapid kernel]

[vagrant ivy]

hey look it’s zeen’s favourite gym leader

[royal jolt]

Steven

I'm ready

[vagrant ivy]

base Steven’s strongest soldier

[royal jolt]

I've always believed in him

[cursive linden]

I'm ready for my king

[cursive linden]

[pallid girder]

At least og Steven will hit 1M a lot easier this time with his arc self.

[royal jolt]

I plan to try variations of teams with him in there, so we'll see how things go

[cursive linden]

Yeah don't do that one, no spam is bad lmao

[royal jolt]

I was gonna ask if your plan was DPS it all the way 😭

[cursive linden]

Oh yeah that could work

Btw, should i sacrifice Anni'24 Lillie or Arc Steven?

[royal jolt]

I'm inclined to say Anni 2 Lillie because of Arc Steven's reactive passive

But, -2 rebuff does sound nice

[cursive linden]

-2 Rebuff is just perma Zone

[pallid girder]

Come to think of it, last time Gloria use NC Blue & Melony to top, but it you want to use Arc Steven you'll need to spam with Colress.
The issue is can Colress run no charging infliction with arc steven?

[cursive linden]

I think I'll try both

And check who should be sacrificed

[cloud timber]

if you're not using arc steven's tm for buffs he's not worth using imo

[pallid girder]

Not even the 2 rebuffs, support exr and some extra score?

[cloud timber]

when it's locked behind an awful reactive passive, yes

[long silo]

I'll try Lear/Chase/DC Blue

[royal jolt]

How does DC Blue stack?

[long silo]

Double Circle is but setting them up twice is

[royal jolt]

I'm considering getting him to 3/5 after Barry

[long silo]

TWave spammer + strengthens Kanto Circle

3/5 has -1 SpDef upon entry

[royal jolt]

Ooh, that's useful

[long silo]

The NC Red comp on Ranked also has DC Blue syncing

[royal jolt]

I assume it's just for the EX effect? Or does he also have something like Sp.Def down on sync?

[pallid girder]

No. Just ex effect.

[royal jolt]

Makes sense, ig
He does sound good for special teams

[pallid girder]

Chase + DC Blue is actually tied with Chase + Melony most of the time from what I saw.

[cursive linden]

Arc Steven can let SS Lear go 4 syncs if 3v3

Anni '24 Lillie can let SS Lear go 4-6 syncs if 3v3

[vagrant ivy]

but isn’t this just straight up losing damage

[cursive linden]

Although Lillie's Zone might ran out

[vagrant ivy]

to me DC blue is a side grade to melony not an upgrade

good for when you need melony for a more valuable stage

[cursive linden]

Hol. Lillie awaits

[vagrant ivy]

unless triple kanto then that’s a different story

[royal jolt]

I can't wait for Holillie 🙏

[cursive linden]

Hollie shit

[long silo]

I want HoLillie but I'll wait for mine

[vagrant ivy]

if I had the gems…

and nc blue is later in the month too

[pallid girder]

I forgot arc Steven can be used in dc.
If consider him I think Gloria will have hard time compete with Poppy even with presumable 10/5.
Poppy can spam and use another zone so rebuff + zone + spam all in the team while bonk bonk in the end.

[royal jolt]

Oof
I never feel comfortable pulling for a unit if I can't guarantee a pity

[true locust]

If you have poppy 10/5 you dont spam just you use hammer since its hit way harder then sync

[cursive linden]

I can pity Hollillie on 31st but man....

[fluid anvil]

Arc Cynthia team right now is NC Blue + Melony. Does new Lillie change anything? You can ditch Blue and use something else with status, but what?
Maybe SS Ingo for the evasion (and he can also do -2 AoE Def)? Or Redlax (but ASC already has SEUNs, so maybe not)
or maybe Rika is an option? She has poison status and can give you ground zone and +6 Atk without needing to use sandstorm, not sure if worth
ideally it would be a Sinnoh/Alola Physical Circle support with status, but that doesnt exist

[pallid girder]

Bianca + Colress? It's what she used in st.

[true locust]

Lillie for arc cynthia change less rng need

Not 4 para but 2😂

Since have -3 and head start 1 have in grid

[pallid girder]

Where is our physical circle unit with support exr + team eva Dena?

[true locust]

Bianca:)

[long silo]

Bianca

[pallid girder]

Bianca is not physical circle. She's waiting to be outclassed by sth that has her or Chase's kit but physical circle.

[vagrant ivy]

she’s defensive circle right

her main merit is enough accel to allow for 2 bar spam without charging infliction on top of evasion n stuff

which chase also does

what chase doesn’t do is lucky skill that boosts team sync moves on circle

oh nope it’s just for herself oops

[cloud timber]

not a lucky skill either

[cloud timber]

should be only volo and ss lear that boost team sync moves with an extra passive?

what are the others

[dense scarab]

NC Blue

[cloud timber]

meant on circle but i didn't actually say that so yea

blue would count

[dense scarab]

5/5 Eri

[cloud timber]

right

[pallid girder]

Bianca has team move and sync move boost under her circle too.

SS Emmet also has it but need 10/5 passive lol.

[cloud timber]

hardly unique to hers

[vagrant ivy]

volo has circle: sync moves up 3 as an innate passive

but there’s many more reasons to not use him so

[warped gulch]

I still hate that he has Tech cake instead of Supp

[cloud timber]

glad to not own volo

[cunning rock]

Same, his kit would have made so much more sense if he was Field/Support

[warped gulch]

Like if he has Supp, he’ll be really good

[pallid girder]

Many fields feel better with support exr 😦

[warped gulch]

His Tm is really good

Circle is nice for Sinnoh with his passive

And then tech

[pallid girder]

Tech exr is just poop if you happen to be not the best dmg dealer of your type.

[warped gulch]

Like we have Bianca + Colress

So if Volo is Supp we’ll have him with Barry

[cloud timber]

ss hilbert got 4m in single but top guy prob doesn't have gear as good as adam, vokz being closely behind at 3.9m

i'm still 15th lol, scores drop off so quick

[fluid anvil]

10/5 SS Hilbert?

[cloud timber]

has to be

adam's was 5/5 though, kinda likely that anything above is superawakened

[vapid kernel]

3.9M 3v1? So how much would 3v3 be

6M?

[pallid girder]

We alr had the second round of bug MT and he alr did 6M w/o sa.

[true locust]

Cheater vokz have 10/5 him

[pallid girder]

Adam did 3M (5/5) while the best did 4M (presumbly 10/5), so 5/5 -> 10/5 is almost 1M difference, right?

[true locust]

And this guy bug lower also have 10/5

Both have also good gears

Since last fubert sync my was 921k

So diffrence would be just 999k

So only 3 sync will be more but 1-2 fubert sync not hit high numbers

Its only 3/4

Its why its 4m score

Its just 750k diffrence from 4 sync

Since 4 sync not realy matter it all

[fluid anvil]

whats the best SS hilbert team thats used there?

[true locust]

Chase fubert and melony

[pallid girder]

I thought the stat difference of 9/5 and 5/5 is huge in dc...

[true locust]

Or can be h viola fubert and melony also comp good i expect this bug lower use this team

Just fubert 1-2 sync hit low number

620/680

You not gain alot difrence only 3 sync yes

4 its just 999k vs my 921

Difference will be aoe way biger

[vernal orbit]

viola is a little annoying to set up on damage challenge

[glossy atlas]

What's the best dmg SC ingo can do?

[pallid girder]

#1255888121648644197 message

[fluid anvil]

can SC Barry do 1M in 3v1 ?

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/NvuOGzCr7Ns?si=-FimWy8uEGP_FMiB

there's also a spam version with bp barry and sc steven

[long silo]

I also have the sync rush version if you want

It's...somewhere in the doc when I sent on first run lol

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/qNiQ-VDEOBM

[long silo]

Oh thank you

[long silo]

Oh wait you mentioned my team, but I only read up to "spam" and assumed you just described the previous video

+reading4

[wispy pagoda]

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[vernal condor]

+reading3

[wispy pagoda]

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[crude sandal]

This is more true than the gacha rates

[fallen trail]

LMAO this is a new one

[normal parcel]

The difference isn't big enough to compensate even for a single defend order animation I guess

I guess if you can somewhat instantly set Aaron before the 1st defend order it should be faster

[cloud timber]

if there is a difference it's too small to measure at all which is not what anyone was saying before

[vernal condor]

I have an idea on how to measure it

I might try it

[normal parcel]

Didn't even break my previous score (that was without Rolex) I gave up after 1 hour of resets for MPR2, since Hilbert doesn't even have soften up I don't want to reset for hours just to get the MPR and miss the crits

Plus I really lost interest in getting good scores now that aWhaling is a thing

What's the point in trying my best if I can get like a 3rd of the whales scores

[cloud timber]

because extremely few people have any of them or if more people do they don't try at all

outside of super sparring maybe

[pallid girder]

Cant wait to see how Milo perform in dc for kekwalk unit nexr reset.

[normal parcel]

Yes I guess is still possible to rank high enough even without aWhaling, is just peasant peak score will be much lower

[vernal condor]

meh

[fluid anvil]

Take Hit: Opp Speed ↓2 9
this doesnt seem very efficient/quick and wouldnt the debuffing every hit take nearly as much time as burn/poison/sand ?

[cloud timber]

only takes 3 or 4 debuffs in single to max out and cancel the actual debuff part of the animation

but triple that in multi

dunno how long b move is yet

[pallid girder]

On the other hand he doesn't need to click any buttons to lower speed at all, and has support exr, more -cd and team dmg boost passive.
I don't expect him to occur in any top 1 team but just wonder how he performs compared to the other common kekwalk setters we have.

[vapid kernel]

This Bug 3v1 is boring af its just ss hilbert no competition

Even when Arc Alder comes out it will just be another special attack unit

When will they release physical nuke

[misty forge]

My only hope:

https://tenor.com/view/slither-wing-plush-plushie-slither-wing-pokemon-pokemon-gif-16720470673390361479

[pallid girder]

A lot of st don't really have competition within their types.
It's either >3M or stuck around 1~2M like ground, flying, ghost, rock, etc.

[acoustic chasm]

0 SECONDS

[vernal condor]

Wow

[fluid anvil]

Flying 3v1 just had 5,5M+ with 10/5 Alt Gloria., its currently #1
Ghost 3v1 with 10/5 SS Ingo can do 4M+, maybe 5M+
AS Cynthia did 3M+ in Ground 3v1
9-10/5 SS Diantha can likely do 3M+ Rock 3v1

[true locust]

And then fubert miss crit🙃

[safe prawn]

I don’t know if I hate more him or ncleaf for missing sync crits

[true locust]

I hate fubert he always miss crit for me

[pallid girder]

You misunderstand what I said.
I meant those st have a clear winner and other pair just not competing with them really, which is a reply to someone said bug st is boring bc no one compete with SS Hilbert.

[fluid anvil]

oh ok
Although Ghost 3v1 has options now
10/5 SS Ingo > 5/5 SS Ingo >= 10/5 SS Korrina >= SSRC > 5/5 SS Korrina

[vapid kernel]

Ye but like more than 1 unit getting 1M would be nice

[royal jolt]

That's what I'm saying 😭

Just rotate alreadyyyyyyyy

[vernal condor]

Maaan Im so close to 1m but 2 times I just fall short

[vernal condor]

[still hearth]

Friday is when DC changes again right?

[unique abyss]

Yup

[still hearth]

Hmm

[unique abyss]

2 resets

[still hearth]

Damn

Hopefully i can get the last tech coin

[unique abyss]

No mpr

[unique abyss]

I'm done, cs2, 5% sync buff from gears and one sync without crit

[pallid girder]

SC Ingo, HViola, SC Barry and Alder all touch 1M, only barely tho.

[cursive linden]

Will this have any use in DC? The effects may take too long even with -1 Sync Countdown

[cloud timber]

there's going to be at least some cases where you can fit it in without losing a sync

[pallid girder]

It might be used for the last sync only, but not every syncs.

[cloud timber]

unless the animation length is literally longer than an entire sync cycle

[pallid girder]

Oh and maybe when she's the main dd herself in farty st.

[royal jolt]

I don't think I'll make it before triple Fairy 🫢

[long silo]

You won't unless you get one more before next month's Ranked DC because they will put 3v3 Fairy yet again for some reason

[royal jolt]

The bundle is a one-time thing, so I'll just have to settle for watching the people who have 10/5 Diantha 🫠

[rancid meadow]

It's going to be a monthly thing at least for sure

[cursive linden]

$25 for a fucking candy

https://tenor.com/view/what-burger-how-wtf-чзх-gif-25552254

[pallid girder]

It's colorful and tasty (maybe)! - by Dena probably.

[sacred badger]

you're gonna test her at 5/5 sheningans?

10/5 rather?

[royal jolt]

That was the hope
But, seeing as triple Fairy is the next 3v3 after Steel, I don't think I'll make it in time

9/5 will still get a better score than 5/5, but it won't be as funny

[long silo]

Wait 3v3 Fairy is next week???

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27567306

[long silo]

Tfw I was memeing it for next month but it's actually getting here next week

I need triple fighting to arrive already

[plush palm]

i get cheren tomorrow 🙂

[cursive linden]

Steel 3v3

[pallid girder]

Only have 1/5 SS lear so I'm gonna do SS lear + MC Sol.

[plush palm]

dont have lear so exr solgalillie it is

[cloud timber]

should be reaching higher output with colress i imagine

definitely important for her to stay on the team though

[plush palm]

but no support ex if i use double solga + colres

[misty forge]

Yet another 4 months without Gloria EXR

[cloud timber]

scrap mc solgaleo, lower output than colress and no attack buffs

arc steven is ofc ideal but there should be other options to sub in if not that

a2 lillie/mc solgaleo's mults pale in comparison

and lillie could be worth replacing if you have nc bianca

also you can scrap go viral on colress for max output

i'll be running my 4/5 gloria though

2.1m last time with redlax/melony, maybe i can push to 2.5m with arc steven but no fitting in melony will hurt

can't fit in steel zone or seun either

[plush palm]

lol 1/5 arc steven aint doing shit

[loud cedar]

this close to making this my desktop background so i dont keep checking pins

[plush palm]

not enough to justify his passives slowing me down

[vapid kernel]

Steven Colress and Arc Steven my best team trust

But i shall also play around with my Raihan

[fluid anvil]

V.Thorton > Arc steven

[vernal condor]

Yeah but no one has him

[vagrant ivy]

most people don’t pull for varieties sadly

[misty forge]

Rightfully*

It's why they started handing them out for free

[plush palm]

tbf they usually aint worth the gems for anyone who aint a meta player

[misty forge]

They're just BPs

But with good kits

On a limited banner

[vagrant ivy]

there’s some hidden gems in variety but most are just fodder

[misty forge]

No thanks

Even if they were arc/mf tier I'd still skip

[vagrant ivy]

like, the galar varieties this month aren’t bad but it’d be a silly thing to pull for them in the face of nc kantrio rerun

[plush palm]

the only variety units i actually like are ball guy and the rockets but like... i hate that theyre variety and not proper PFs

[pallid girder]

I just like the idea of SS Lear really "supporting" a Pasio pair.

[plush palm]

bc theres no fucking way theyre gonna rerun archer and friends

[vapid kernel]

V thorton doesnt max Steven Attack and Crit

I have hiM 4/5

[plush palm]

i want vgio rerun

[misty forge]

Vthorton also doesn't have a reactive passive

[vagrant ivy]

varieties do rerun from time to time like variety kanto E4

[plush palm]

not the rockets

[vagrant ivy]

(peak fodder)

[vapid kernel]

I can try V Thorton Steven and Elio actually

Hm

[misty forge]

They're gonna carry Rock/ice HSE

Because those two types have shit all supports

[vapid kernel]

Theyre gonna rerun V Lorelei and VBruno

I think

[plush palm]

i cant complain if their event reruns as long as i get 4* PUs out of it

[vapid kernel]

No way theyre wasting that business op

[misty forge]

[plush palm]

i cant remember if their event had a medal

[vapid kernel]

I wanna say

It absolutely makes no sense at all that this king of Pasio gets two highest scores in DC despite never training with his pokemon

[vagrant ivy]

3v3 steel is still a tossup

but it’s still funny

[vapid kernel]

On the other hand you have these champions going through mid life crises just to score similar to him

[vagrant ivy]

base lear is really old for a unit that does so well too

5m at 3/5 EXR

[fluid anvil]

for now probably, but next rotation 10/5 Gloria could displace him in Steel 3v3

[true locust]

I have all steel units🤣

Time for my boy 10/10 rose score high

[vagrant ivy]

team last time was poorly optimized so I can try to go higher this time

she’s also 6/5 now

[vernal condor]

Dana is sad lol

[true locust]

Better use arc steven poppy and v throton

[pallid girder]

Poppy spam herself with two dmg enhancer is better.

[scenic grotto]

Thinking about the units I EX’d and/or caked just for Damage Challenge

EX: BP Barry, Melony, Ash, Hala, BP Valerie
EX and Cake: SS Hilbert, Oleana, Anni Skyla, Ryuki (and soon Holiday Lillie)

NC Leaf I EX’s and Caked either for damage challenge or an event battle, can’t remember which

[vagrant ivy]

tbh I did ex a lot of stuff for this mode

[scenic grotto]

Definitely worth the investment

[vagrant ivy]

BP Barry, melony, hala, BP candice, lodge lear, BP Valerie, dc nemona, ss misty and gladion were all EXd for this mode to some degree

[scenic grotto]

Nice

[vagrant ivy]

some were worth their investments others not so much

gladion is just there to prove his superiority over poison stall

[pallid girder]

No Gladion pb this month is a huge letdown

Lillie -> Lusamine -> SS Grimsley (???)
Dena indeed like to break ppl's expectation

[vagrant ivy]

soon….

gladion peaks at 300k on ST stages using pure f2p comp

I’m interested in seeing how he does with more expensive supports such as sc Steven but if you have those expensive supports you won’t be using gladion anyway

[scenic grotto]

I pulled Larry thinking he would be helpful for a few stages
Turns out I only used him in dragon weak 3v1

[vagrant ivy]

normal DC soon

[scenic grotto]

No normal weakness

[vapid kernel]

interesting team

[scenic grotto]

Holiday Lillie and Redlax might become a somewhat popular combo for units that can be self sufficient
NC Blue replaces RedLax for special attacking support
Elio replacing Holiday Lillie for physical or mix attacking support

Of course we already have teams with NC Rosa and Meloetta which is also a Sprint/Support with sing

[vagrant ivy]

nc rosa is only used on psychic or fighting weak stages

[pallid girder]

H Lillie will replace almost all Melony spot bc she has easier time to grant you a 7th sync.

[vagrant ivy]

otherwise is not worth the time loss

from b move

[fluid anvil]

almost all?

[true locust]

H Lillie for most run change nothing

Only some get less rng

One more sync its will be like 10% off them whit alot rng

[unique abyss]

I hope I'll get her from daily pulls I have to spend 9k gems on arc leon pity

I hope I won't go yolo

[fluid anvil]

H. Lillie has speed buffs which lets you drop NC blue
thats the main thing

[true locust]

I give free advice too all. If you not aim on ranked top1-20. Don’t spend gems on lillie. Since its just less rng on some runs then melony. Don’t expect it change game for you

[true locust]

No

Since you need use move and they need be success

[fluid anvil]

Yeah. Redlax + Lillie or something else + Lillie

[fluid anvil]

so?

[true locust]

Need use sleep 3 times

[fluid anvil]

get +4-6 speed, np

[true locust]

Wat cost you time

[fluid anvil]

nc blue also uses discharge and speed TM twice.
Lillie replaces him as speed buffer

[true locust]

Keep point off sleep spam is move fail

Lillie never replace him

[fluid anvil]

her speed buffs work off any successful move, not just sleep
TM too

[true locust]

Its way too slow

Move

Sing or b move

Not trainer move

Move is pokemon move only

Trainer move not count for lillie

[fluid anvil]

Raises the Speed of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat rank(s) when the user’s move is successful.
Users move should mean any of the 4 moves, TM too
"move" =/= "pokemon move"

[pallid girder]

Melony will still be the best second spammer in super sparring if two stages both need sing spammer.

[true locust]

Maybe but why you use hear tmp?

Waist time use lillie tmp

[fluid anvil]

user’s move includes anything (except max move probably)
when they only want pokemon move - they actually write "pokemon move"

[true locust]

For just 2 speed

And wat after use 1 tmp

Need use move then wat

Nc blue set speed faster no need nothing

[fluid anvil]

anyway its not as waste even if you have to use her attack or a successful sing.
Its 100% worth if you can replace NC blue with a better enhancer like redlax or WZT or rebuff pair
especially since Lillies Sprint makes up for it too

[true locust]

Redlax is bad

His tm take way alot time

Not optimal

Plus he is super slow gauge whit him is pain

[fluid anvil]

Lillie is top-tier DC pair
wasting a bit of time to have SEUNs + fast sing spam is worth

[true locust]

She is top tier

[fluid anvil]

Lillie fixes all gauge

[true locust]

But only make diffrence is some certain runs wat need alot rng

[fluid anvil]

Redlax + Melony = meh
Redlax + Lillie = top

[true locust]

When you can get aftet last sync 13 second or more then yes

Lillie 3 moves cost you more time

Then spam melony no reduce syncs

In run

Plus moonblast is 4 gauge move so you never use it

B move is super slow

Lax and use moonblast? Lol gauge end just after it insta

[rain copper]

You are supposed to not use her attacking moves at all, so i don't see your points of trying to convince others to skip her

For Fairy the best comps don't even use animation skipping strategy

[pallid girder]

Her tm is refreshable and has mga. The actual way should be refresh her tm once at the start and use it again whenever the gauge is tight.

[true locust]

Tm you can use 2 time . If want get speed.

Im just say alot expect h lillie change game and give alot thing. Im just say she is better when just spam sing. If you will use moves for 6 speed she will be slower then melony. And for most runs you never fit extra sync . Since i did all crazy runs and i now wat units can do and wat not. So i just say true about h lillie so players should now befor scout it will be not like you think she not change game. Most runs will be same its just give less rng. Not change you end game score for most runs. If you want scout for less rng its ok but dont expect you get extra sync like this hilbert run now you never fit extra sync if use his tm if not use yes but then score in the end will be less. Its just one off example when she not change your score only need less miss / rng.

[sacred badger]

Haha. Tanking with SC Selene will be hilarious.

oh also, i haven't EXR'd Poppy yet. HRM.

[vapid kernel]

There are niche uses

Like shes faster than Melony on a low speed team

[crude sandal]

She also gives potential evasion with her B Move

[rancid meadow]

Lillie > Melony in DC. Got it

[fluid anvil]

Lillie >> Melony

[vapid kernel]

Shes only better if ex roled

Dont be like me who mistakenly exchanged sprint candy because my dumbass thought she need sprint exr

[cloud timber]

lol he has everything he needs which is exr and 2 rebuffs

i used him in single and got 1.8m i think

idk how you missed everyone using arc steven + a2 lillie + colress besides poppy havers

which… were also using arc steven iirc

musta avoided looking at this entire channel

[vernal condor]

technically lillie is worse than thorton, but nobody got him so

[cloud timber]

with how many whales there are at the top i'd be surprised by that, i'd expect to see v thortons show up this rotation though

[scenic grotto]

Colress + Holiday Lillie would be such a great support combo if

1. Colress was Support/Sprint
2. Colress’ screech also debuffed Sp. Def -2 AoE

But that’s part of the whole “what would be the most efficient support duo” thing

[dense scarab]

I have V Thorton 3/5, what are his attributes that help? I know he provided a team damage buff when opponents are trapped.

[glad kraken]

he has a field + support ex sync is the main part iirc

[dense scarab]

Fair, I haven't unlocked EX Role

[glad kraken]

as well as having discharge for paralysis to enable sing spam, i'd imagine

[dense scarab]

Think his only downside would be trap animations

[glad kraken]

it's not trap

it's restrain

so no animation at all

except for the application ig

[dense scarab]

Oh right my bad it's been a while since I've used him

[fallen trail]

his main utility is the factory knowledge passive

its p much the same as like c bianca’s the will to protect passive

except doesnt apply to sync

20% damage boost to all allies when attacking a restrained enemy

[vernal condor]

his main utility is literally field support + para

[fallen trail]

i think he could be good if using rose iron head spam

but idk if that outdamages traditional sync spam or not

[vernal condor]

It won't

well for rose specifically it might, but in general it won't

[fallen trail]

i meant for rose specifically yeah

hes my best option still

[vernal condor]

steel*

[rare apex]

we out here with MC/Solgaleo with this one 🗣️

[fallen trail]

arc steven/rose/v thorton iron head spam

(gauge where)

[rare apex]

in shambles

[fallen trail]

i’ll mess around w it

[rare apex]

3/5 silver tomorrow lezzgo

[royal jolt]

TRIPLE STEEL TONIGHT
RAAAAAHHHH 🙂‍↕️

[safe prawn]

The fully awakened poppy propaganda era is upon us

[fallen trail]

fully awakened rose (head start 1 max countdown 2 ZAMN!) (dont use max move until the end though)

(dont do this)

[royal jolt]

How many steel units have awakened?

[fallen trail]

rose poppy steven

[royal jolt]

I can't wait to see how Poppy and Rose fare

[fallen trail]

arc steven wasnt out last time

that alone shakes things

[royal jolt]

Yeah
I can't wait to use him in a few teams

[fallen trail]

ss lear is likely the top unit

[proud minnow]

I’m also curious how it will be

[royal jolt]

I wish SC Selene got some sort of buff aside from an indirect one like Arc Steven

[safe prawn]

Really curious to see what top teams would look alike

I can imagine SSLear arc Steven and a status spammer but we will see, there more physical synergy with Poppy or even og gloria

[cloud timber]

theoretical best is ss lear/v thorton/melony?

possible to just not put up with arc steven reactive passives when he's not even contributing to setup

[safe prawn]

Double rebuff equals zone and thorton passive does not apply to sync moves…. I’d say sslear / colress / arc Steven maybe

But I can be wrong ofc

[vernal condor]

arc steven vthorton poppy

you get the double rebuff, the zone, the double support and the aoe sync with a big final move

there's no doubt that's the team

[cloud timber]

she does reap the full benefits of zone plus rebuff but i'm not a believer in her nuke

thorton passive isn't too relevant

but lear's b move will see some use

[vernal condor]

it's a multiplier for giga bonk

[cloud timber]

yeah for poppy too

the passive helps

arc steven/colress is very slow to be dealing with when melony is on the table and neither steven tm nor colress screech accomplish anything

low sync count for little advantage

[vernal condor]

if you go ss lear / arc steven then your third is oleana if 3/5 and bp barry if not

[cloud timber]

yeah

[stoic crest]

What is the best option for this? I have stuff like NC blue and red lax. Please ping

Bug is like the worst thing ever....

I'm assuming genesect

[cloud timber]

you have ss hilbert at 3/5 already so you can just run that/nc blue/melony

[vernal condor]

[cloud timber]

basic stuff but you use his tm for seun

and make sure you debuff to -6, 2 metal sounds and nc blue debuff does it

[stoic crest]

I don't need the dire hit just the seun right?

[cloud timber]

nc blue tm handles all the offensive setup so yeah

[stoic crest]

What grid tiles am I looking for specifically on blue? I have like 5 different grids on mine.

[cloud timber]

covers almost everything for most dc uses

[stoic crest]

Ah that one thank you!

[cloud timber]

yeah you should already have it saved and ready

[stoic crest]

Yup I do I just couldn't remember which one it was

[cloud timber]

all good

make sure you label it

[icy pendant]

well I improved my score to 729k but without an invested hilbert I really don't see myself getting that much more unfortunately :/

gah bug sucks so much for this

[cloud timber]

well like

even with 1/5 you're only missing out on techno blast mgr

[icy pendant]

no ex

[cloud timber]

ah

[icy pendant]

no ex because mine is 1/5, next rerun trust

holiday viola nukes for less damage than I thought she would

[vernal condor]

I didnt use it

You're missing out on superduper effective tho

[cloud timber]

right

[vernal condor]

Also I did ex him for this occasion

[still hearth]

So close to getting 3/5 Hilbert but that 1 move candy tech coin has hindered me

Ig I’ll have to do this with a 2/5 SS Hilbert

[icy pendant]

well this resource check was how I learned I'm 3 days away from max woke anni raihan since he's been by candy priority

[stoic crest]

For Hilbert I use one tm before each sync and one techo blast for type rebuff right?

[cloud timber]

you'll be relying on mpr if you want more than 2 uses but yes

and you may not need more than two uses for the 1m mark

[sacred badger]

STEEL GAMING

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

no nc blue or bug zone?

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

I kinda like redlax elio better than bp barry here

[rotund sierra]

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[sacred badger]

Honestly, ya think i can hit 1m with SC Selene 1, Arc Steven 1R (SC Selene is tanking) and Poppy 3?

[icy pendant]

replaces the need for zone with oneshot pseudozone

[sacred badger]

or would poppy want her EXR?

[icy pendant]

she's strike EXR and likely is the main syncer so she would benefit from it

[cloud timber]

strike/sprint not sprint/strike

[icy pendant]

ah ignore me then

clearly I am just a washed DC player

[cloud timber]

lol no one's gonna get info right 100% of the time

[icy pendant]

I've candied my Poppy you would think I'd remember what candies I used

[rotund sierra]

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[cloud timber]

when you're using redlax yeah

[pallid girder]

3/5 Poopy can hit 1M with even just genpool supports is what I assume.

[cloud timber]

sounds accurate

[vernal condor]

3/5 decimates this

exr ofc

[long silo]

I wonder if Steven + Lear can sustain Oleana's gauge w/o Twofer

I guess Lear can use his TM last minute

[cloud timber]

oleana is largely self sufficient

and lear has mga on top

idk if anyone still uses twofer oleana

[long silo]

I no longer do but ye

Just largely hoping no MPR needed on Oleana's part

Really a shame I have no Thorton

Lowkey hoping for his rerun last month

[unborn otter]

Had a lot of tm mprs but missed like 2-3 crits

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

Should be Hilbert assuming he’s +6 already and the sync CD is inconsequential

If you need the accel then I think Redlax is better than Hilbert TM + sing but someone please fact check me

[rotund sierra]

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[cloud timber]

i'd expect hilbert tm to be worse off

[pallid girder]

Hope the spam compression of Poppy makes her the queen over Gloria.

[cloud timber]

i'd predict lear > poppy > gloria with lear on top for better aoe damage

actual innate would help quite a bit too

but in this case it's compensating for lacking zone or rebuff

[still hearth]

Any grids for 2/5 SS Hilbert?

[cloud timber]

sde1 is the only key tile if you're able to supply his gauge without mgr

[long silo]

I am getting low rolled by my old strat

[still hearth]

Probably the best I can do

[cloud timber]

oh wait you can grid mpr

you want that for as many seuns you can fit in

[feral hamlet]

700-800k is about the best I can do with 3/5 Hilbert EXR

[sturdy pebble]

Was SS Lear available when 3v3 first came out?

[cunning rock]

Nope. Last Steel 3v3 was back in August. SS Lear came a month after.

[sturdy pebble]

[feral hamlet]

Oh wait, I managed 1M now. Just had to lucky skill Super Powered 3 and grid for sync tiles as well

[long silo]

That's better

[olive obsidian]

Dayum, I only got 111k

And that was using the colress strat

[glossy token]

i know im at the wire but

hilbert larry for a second rebuff and melony?

[crude sandal]

Alright, Poppy time

[sacred badger]

o.o?

[crude sandal]

It's her for now, otherwise next time it's 10/5 Gloria

[pallid girder]

Unless Gloria get a not so strong exr (sprint maybe) and ass sa passive.

[crude sandal]

Nah, she's still better either way

[pallid girder]

We'll see.

[crude sandal]

I do wonder how they'll scale Gloria's sync BP

With her superawakening

Because she's a striker with a tech-like innate

[pallid girder]

She's striker base so she'll get the striker sa. That's it.

[crude sandal]

That's not really what I'm asking here

I'm asking how the 7/5 and 9/5 passives will scale for her

[sacred badger]

yeah bonk time

[long silo]

MONEY TIME

Later

[pallid girder]

I'm saying just like every other strikers? If other strikers * 1.2 she also * 1.2.
Why should she be different?

[crude sandal]

She gets +50 attack at 8/5

Which means, she gets 290 base BP at 8/5

And with both sync move nodes, she gains 340 sync BP

[royal jolt]

Not a good run

[cunning rock]

And done

[warped gulch]

I only dealed with para rng so i’ll take this

[icy scroll]

Who should I use this time?

[cloud timber]

colress

idk how 1/5 poppy fares

[icy scroll]

She is bad!

[cloud timber]

oh yeah no charging infliction

[lusty galleon]

really can't do more? lol...

[icy scroll]

She is bad!

[cursive mauve]

So many strat, all lead to 3.4 mil

[cloud timber]

colress/arc steven/a2 lillie is one of the best teams for single target and is your best shot in multi as well

[sacred badger]

whoa