Damage Challenge

[azure vine]

but that wouldnt make sense

would it?

so no zone

[fallen trail]

wait i didnt think about this lol

marnie should be the main target anyways though

[acoustic chasm]

First time getting 6 syncs with para spam lol

[copper otter]

ok, this is miserable with NC Serena

[safe prawn]

I’M A SURVIVOR

[vapid kernel]

Do u use se up for the b move or the sync

Not good at 1/5

2M to 3M depending on syncs

Waiting for someome to try it

[vapid kernel]

It still happened once to me

[true locust]

Befor last sync

B move use just after sync

And even if get more miss can hit 1-2 time after b move too

[misty forge]

His sync is actually really sad

[pallid girder]

Brycenman's biggest issue is his bmove and sync effect animation. He really takes his time.

[thick stump]

so i saw nc marnie is basically the best for this but i'm not double candying her lol

second best is brycen man? akari?

yea most of my dark pairs are pretty heavy invested in lol

[pallid girder]

Oh wait you have everyone invested... Pick anyone you think it's the coolest ig.

[thick stump]

i'll try both akari and brycen

giacomo would prob be best at 5/5 but i do not have the candies for that

[vapid kernel]

Both, u rich

Oh they alrdy 3 5

[thick stump]

i like dark types

[pallid girder]

Currently it seems Giocomo prob needs more to outdo Marnie. Prob 9/5.

[vapid kernel]

U shud do brycen man 2m for the excel

[thick stump]

last time i used brycen i only got 1.5 mil

is 2 mil possible with nc blue melony?

[fallen trail]

ok first try no exr on marnie but yes exr on the other two

[vapid kernel]

2m requires 3 syncs and everyone -1 accuracy

[thick stump]

that sounds like a lot of time tho

having to night daze everyone once and also use both b moves

what's the grid for that anyway

[vapid kernel]

Ye but actually u hv ss cyrus righr

[thick stump]

ya

[vapid kernel]

U can do brycen man ss cyrus and ncblue

[thick stump]

oh ok

[vapid kernel]

Dark void wud lower the accuracy for u

[thick stump]

i didnt know if i would need chase for that or not

would this be the brycen grid?

[vapid kernel]

Works w nc blue too just paralyse all

[thick stump]

or no mind boggler

[vagrant ivy]

whats the highest recorded karen score

has she reached 700k

[vapid kernel]

Ya and maybe mind boggler can go too

[thick stump]

bet ill take sp atk tiles instead

what should cyrus be gridded for

just usual dark void stuff?

[vast glade]

Welcome back, @warped gulch

[vapid kernel]

Umbral accel

[thick stump]

heard

[vapid kernel]

And speed tiles

I think the extra bad break slows him down (i didnt test this thoroughly) so nope

And u can sync with cyrus first so grab Power play

[thick stump]

oh dont take the extra bad break?

[vapid kernel]

It was slower for me in the nc marnie tries

[thick stump]

gotcha

hows that

not gonna use tm mpr but its cheapest bath to power play

or is ppe1 not worth it

[vapid kernel]

Yep go try

Rmb to record vid

[thick stump]

okay gauge quickly becomes a problem

i might have to roll speed on my pin

also forgot i need to use a move with brycen after rebuff so he can get free move

[pallid girder]

Yeah. SUPER slow set up.

Brycen man can never reach 5 syncs for me.

[thick stump]

imma try and roll speed and speed atk on a dark pin

[fluid anvil]

so far every types 3v3 top score improved a lot vs the first rotation, but not Rocks and Darks

[thick stump]

ok i found a strat

it's definitely possible to get 2 mil+

im using a silly tile

and 2.46 mil achieved

could've pushed higher with SP3 but idrc lol

i’ll post the strat to yt (praying the recording saves)

[vernal condor]

Not much was released for them since

Giacomo can't spam because his passive procs every time an ally gets hit so he loses a lot of time

[fluid anvil]

well nothing released for Bug, but SS Hilbert somehow (??) got 6M+ now
and NC Nate had 4,5M and now got 6,5M with the same team, without using AS Lance

I imagine its better gear + evasion rng

[thick stump]

https://youtube.com/shorts/em0iPlXnlAk?si=xp2_ePtZa09DD-e2

[vernal condor]

The first time around sing strat werent figured out

that's how hilbert got more im pretty sure

My first documented use of melony was on Poison 1, which was after Bug 3

And it really became popula on Dragon 3

So anything before Dragon 3 probably had unoptimal stuff

It just so happens that the best for Rock 3 is dps anyway, so it doesn't change much

[thick stump]

@vapid kernel

Could increase my score by putting SP3 on Cyrus and brycen, and actually critting cyrus' sync

But I got brycen tm mprs and a triple para so I just ran with it

Also just submitted my clear to the pinned form

Oh nvm just realized the link i used just got rid of brycen man in poma tools

Bruh

Ok i'll be honest idk why it makes brycen man disappear

[thick stump]

Can anyone tell me if the pomatools link in the description works

Cuz for me it shows cyrus and nc blue but not brycen

As long as it works for other ppl idc lol

[brisk shale]

Working fine here

[thick stump]

Ok cool

Idk why it was messing up on my end then

Ty

[cloud timber]

yeah at least for watching videos i've had an extension that changes the url automatically but for uploads idk if there's a solution, prob not without editing software which i don't use

[vapid kernel]

Omg nice

[thick stump]

[vapid kernel]

Brycen Man on the agenda

Im gonna be using him when i do Dark 3v1

[thick stump]

I still think zinnia's a lil bit better for 3v1

[vapid kernel]

dont have her 3/1

[vernal condor]

Oh right I have zinnia

[thick stump]

💔

might try this run again a lil later just so i pass 2.5 mil

cuz its def possible

MGA is op

[pallid girder]

Even post sing meta ppl were in disbelief about no charging infliction 2 bar spam, but now we are doing it just fine. Dragon has better score bc of this afaik.
Im kinda shocked USelene not outdmg Silver in Rock btw.

[vapid kernel]

Pokefair trying to beat Master fair tough luck

[pallid girder]

I mean we're now in the meta of 10/5 pfs > 3/5 MFs.

[fallen trail]

well selene doesnt have 10/5 lol but yeah silver having sync and a stupid strong aoe b move is gonna come out on top

[cloud timber]

selene has at least a comparable b move and tech exr so it's not like there was a clear winner either way

[fallen trail]

well her b move has aoe penalty

[cloud timber]

and its own mult

just lack of flinch

no idea how the animations compare

[stoic crest]

Is Marnie, NC blue/Chase, and melody the best option?

Please ping me

I can candy marnie

[ivory kestrel]

Upgraded my score here. Turns out, doing 2 more syncs with sing spam does more than zone+para spam

[ivory kestrel]

If you can spare the candies, yes, NC Marnie is a good investment. She can also do 1M in 3v1 if i remember correctly. Mine isn’t even EXR’d. I used Marnie’s B move only once, at the end

[stoic crest]

Oh easily I have like 200 coins

But she can get a million without 3/5?

What grid did you use for your run?

[ivory kestrel]

Idk about 1/5 though. Here’s mine

[fallen trail]

exr ss cyrus is better than melony here

but you’ll need to be wary of gauge

[ivory kestrel]

My Cyrus is 1/5 only, and i dont plan on investing on him yet.

[stoic crest]

And I presume blue and melody use their usual stuff? And technique is the usual. Paralysis with blue, sing with melody, and TM with Marnie and blue?

Then just sync sync and sync

[fallen trail]

hmm marnie can get 1 mil at 1/5 but needs good teammates

[cloud timber]

1/5 ss cyrus can theoretically work with chase and marnie's b move to give time to recover gauge but i would recommend sticking to standard melony stuff first

[fallen trail]

use marnies b move every sync

its worth

[ivory kestrel]

First turn, Marnie TM, Blue Discharge, Melony Sing (discharge needs to paralyze preferable all 3, or if not at least 2/3)

[fallen trail]

and 1/5 ss cyrus is fine but yeah you’d want exr

[ivory kestrel]

I got lower scores with this though

[fallen trail]

hmm not every sync

try after the 2nd sync on

thats how i did it

[stoic crest]

And probably best to just candy marnie?

[ivory kestrel]

Yeah, ik, i did runs where i started using B move after Marnie first sync (third sync irl)

If you want it safe 1M, yeah, candying is the way. I dont think 2/5 adds much to her grid

[fallen trail]

marnie gets evasive sync 3 at 2/5

its something

[still hearth]

Seeing your roster you should be able to get 1M with 1/5 Marnie

This is the best I got with F2P pairs

[rancid meadow]

🎉 10/5 Kingambit really bins Marnie

[fallen trail]

he doesnt have 10/5 yet lol

thats 5/5

he gets it in 2 resets

[stoic crest]

Apologies I'm late, so Marnie, melody, and who else is better? NC blue or chase?

[pallid girder]

Ig they mean that if 5/5 he can do 3.5M, 10/5 is certainly way higher.
3/5 Marnie is around this range.

[cunning rock]

She can, she's not even EXRd

[stoic crest]

Can blue and melody work over meloetta and red?

I have those pairs but I just hate meloetta.

[cunning rock]

She needs a lot of SMUN for her B move before the timer runs out. And Rosa gave her around +4 SMUN

Also Redlax functions like a Dark Zone substitute with his SEUN

[stoic crest]

Ah that makes sense

[stoic crest]

I presume meloetta uses b move then syncs so she can sing spam?

[cunning rock]

TM > Sing > Sing > Sync > B Move

I didn't even get Evasion out of it

[stoic crest]

Awesome thank you

[timid tree]

my genius completely forgot archer doesnt have crit buffs outside of sharp entry 1 on grid. so this was with 0 crit and only +4 attack. (because i forgot to consider that too)

[plush palm]

idk if its worth it to slot in redlax

[cunning rock]

I don't think it would change much

[timid tree]

Yea, I’ve tried with different teammates and archer needs so much that idk if there even are two other characters who can give him all he needs.

[cloud timber]

redlax/elio with trip up and start coin flipping

nah he sets cakewalk on his own so no need

[plush palm]

i could give it a shot i guess

then again i have +6 exr on my archer

[cloud timber]

elio/redlax is good for just covering buffs though

[plush palm]

1m is def possible

at least w/ my comp

hit 700k before resetting bc i didnt have a seup for my last sync

[cunning rock]

LOL

[timid tree]

its totally possible just the rng is awful and i either miss a tm refresh or a sync crit at the end.

pain. everyone has head start btw idk if crit strike 2 would be better.

[cunning rock]

Mine has SP3.

[timid tree]

sadly im completely out of gold purples (and no lg this month )

[cloud timber]

always have cs2 on your damage dealer if not sp3 or ww3

[timid tree]

true. i usually use archer for utility/sync countdown purposes so his lucky skill set is hs1, adr1 and def crush 2. dc2 was for the tapu bulu solo in lg and i could always replace it cause i have more than enough regular cookies, but i wanted to see how far i could go without changing lucky skills.

idk what the optimal strat would be for this, but first turn i reset if i dont get archer tm refresh + red paralysis. (which means aloooot of resets, i gave up on the free mini potion at the beginning because im so tired of this lmao.) and then you need consistent red tm refreshes as well as sync crits.

[cunning rock]

You'd probably be better off resetting for Archer TM + Red para

And then pray for a lot of dodges at that point

[timid tree]

yea thats what i do.

[plush palm]

basically

Ive gotten to 900k w/ elio too

melony is probably still better

[timid tree]

in the image in the middle i got an extra sync in but neither that or the one before it crit. epic

ive had better results with melony too

dont even need this cause i already got the mil with sc zinnia. its just my pride and love for the team rocket execs leading me here.

[cunning rock]

[plush palm]

hsing cs2

i think i aint getting the right high rolls

gonna give up for now

got a java assignment to work on

[timid tree]

we love to see them!!! really need a proton emote. since his jp name is Lance we’ll just use and pretend its him for now. (Actually I might be able to draw one with my extremely mediocre art skills but idk what expression would be good….)

[cunning rock]

Shame that all of their kits are niche at best.

[timid tree]

understandable. good luck with your assignment! I’ll prob try again with cs2 as well, either tomorrow or monday cause I need to get off my butt and be productive too.

[pallid girder]

I have seen Archer 1M before.

[cunning rock]

Mine was from ST Dark

[timid tree]

true, but they do serve their purposes well and are really fun to use! im just happy that they made it into the game at all (and right when ex roles were introduced at that).

[cunning rock]

Mildly still salty that Petrel could have been good against Giovanni UB but he's Psychic weak

[timid tree]

oof youre right

[cunning rock]

Here, Ariana's requirements are too slow for DC.

Wants Poison, slow debuffs to max her nuke...

Wants Interference...

[pallid girder]

I was wondering how well Petrel would do in 3v3 but no one has 3/5 exr Petrel last time.

[cunning rock]

The problem is that Petrel also wants Poison for his nuke

[pallid girder]

He has 50% non posion multiplier & support exr, at least he'll be better than some choice ig (Looker Im looking at you)

[timid tree]

at least with ariana you can get poison and trap on the same hit. (though in my experience trap goes away really fast and is hard to keep track of). for debuffs i either use ss cyrus or sc steven (i dont have oleana). though there’s alot to be said for dark void spam/b leer’s slowness. and poison/trap not being the best for this mode….

I have 3/5 exr Petrel (he was my first ex role at that….). But for 3v3 poison I just stuck with Ariana cause she has more sync multipliers and is a tech/strike. Sorry Petrel I failed you even though you’re my fav of the bunch and one of my top favs in general . I’ll try him next time posion 3v3 comes back.

[cunning rock]

Still need to EXR Ariana and Petrel.

I used VGio even with Arc Cynthia for DC

[plush palm]

my ariana is 1/5 unfortunately

my gio nidoking is 5/5 exr

[timid tree]

Massive respect for players with invested rockets!!! My VGio is only 1/5 ex no r tho, because I prioritize alts with original outfits.

(i yellow candied archer to 3 on debut and then got two more on the mix scout which is still so funny to me.)

[plush palm]

gonna be waiting for ground 3T to use him

candyed himto 3/5 and for some reason he spooked me 2 times since then

[timid tree]

gioking is my man for ground 3v3 (and ground 3v1 as well for that matter because im not super big on courtney tbh)

I also candied him to 3 and got another copy unintentionally straight after.

[cunning rock]

Still kinda regret doing this because I only did it for DC... And then SS Roxie is just straight up better for 1M

[timid tree]

big oof

my ss roxie is only 1/5 no ex or r and shes not a big fave so shell prob stay that way. (i may ex her in the future at the very least but thats it)

if it makes you feel any better. the very first yellow candies i saved went to… halloween morty for ghost weak champion stadium. (ok banette is my number 1 fav pokemon and morty is a top top fav so its one of my most favorite alts but still funny).

[plush palm]

gonna still be putting my yellow candys to techs

[cunning rock]

Speaking off

She's been worth it at least because I got 1M in both ST and AoE Rock because of her

[plush palm]

the arc fairs so far have been good enough at 1/5 to not need candy for what i wanna do w/ them

[timid tree]

i found the glorious original screenshots. (i completely forgot about the old ui).

[cunning rock]

Right now, I'm debating if I should spend a yellow candy on SS Hilbert because ST Bug will still be impossible for me.

[plush palm]

he aint terrible

he does decently well duoing LG w/ eggmon support

[cunning rock]

Because SC Emmet isn't cutting it

[cloud timber]

if you have no reason to prioritize using it on an arc fair you already have it's not a bad choice

[plush palm]

i dont think 2/5 is much of a difference

[cloud timber]

you do want to make it to 3/5 yes

[cunning rock]

I'm almost to 1 Tech candy. 18 coins atm

[cloud timber]

naturally

[cunning rock]

So I can legit get him to 3/5 when DC rotates

[cunning rock]

Yeah, never felt the need to upgrade my Arc units. It's why I'm considering it

I might go for it then. Thanks

[plush palm]

i wouldnt 3/5 hilbert just for dc i think

like if you want him to counter certain LG sure but still

[cunning rock]

I know but with HLillie coming and how she'll likely hit 1M in ST Fairy. Only ST Bug would be the only non 1M lieft.

[timid tree]

My bug roster also blows and my only bug fav is og Guzma. I have Hilbert because Genesect is a fav but also im very weird when it comes to the protagonists cause im too attached to my headcanon personalities for them to care about dena’s interpretations lol. so he’ll stay at 1.

[cunning rock]

I pitied for SS Hilbert during his debut and he stayed that way ever since

[plush palm]

i like how he can counter certain LG gimmicks

thats it

like for me thats enough

[cunning rock]

I'm not an LG streak chaser anymore because how sluggish my phone gets when swapping parties.

[timid tree]

He’s fun to use and I love the story for how he met Genesect. Hilbert-Genesect and Lucas-Dialga like stories are so much better than the ones where its just like “heyyyyy look at this legendary/mythical pokemon i found/already had :)))”

[brisk shale]

i got a bit too (un)lucky on the triple unova ss banner

and got him 6/5

[timid tree]

my bug st is even more pathetic than i remembered lol.

[long silo]

I only have Archer at 3/5 and Petrel at 2/5

I want the others

[vagrant ivy]

cut him some slack, he's 1/5

[cunning rock]

My PB against Bug ST

[vagrant ivy]

base guzma did around that much last rotation so 💀

[timid tree]

true lol. but sadly for him he’s staying that way.

next bug st ill just try og guzma, even if he sucks equally as much . (well mine is +10 energy and has sp3 so hopefully he’ll at least get half a mil.)

[cunning rock]

Why does Viola need trap

Why does SC Ingo need trap

[timid tree]

Hoping that you can get them in the future!!!!

[cursive linden]

Is this a good team for Bug ST?

[sacred badger]

i mean, you have 5/5. i think you can crack 1m

Cakewalk will be tough to setup though o.o

[cursive linden]

3 Syncs with 2 Techno Blast

Hmmm, not bad

What does Cheren increases? Speed?

[sacred badger]

dunt remember hrm, its probably in the absol pastebin

[warped gulch]

Well you should be able to get higher Sync

Bc ST

[cursive linden]

Cool

[worldly tapir]

What type for the next DC? Bug or steel?

[rain copper]

Single Bug

[worldly tapir]

I dont have anything, im screwed

[pallid girder]

Fury cutter spam. It's kinda cool not gonna lie.

500k for f2p striker score

[rapid sparrow]

Did you survive the purge

Why is your thread closed

[warped gulch]

Bc VN 🦭 is gone

Only Canada 🦭 left

[rapid sparrow]

I thought your name meant you managed to change your region

I thought your name meant you managed to change your region

[warped gulch]

Uh that why i meant

Bc my account isn’t Vn anymore

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1311931966102175754

My Account is Canada now so i just make a new clear and close the old one to memory the day Dena tried to kill me

[rapid sparrow]

[vapid kernel]

Absolutely shes also useful in rally or Extreme battles

[brazen escarp]

Sou are starting again?

[misty forge]

No, they changed region

[brazen escarp]

O

K

[fluid anvil]

Dark 3v3 4M+ possible?

[lethal siren]

What's grid for akari for selfbuff in dc

[sacred badger]

he's not needed tbh. D:

but he'd be quite a ranker.

[misty forge]

Where's the "waiting for next datamine" option

[vernal condor]

Take Pykuo's team and give it 45% dps gears

[long silo]

And maybe make Eri 10/5 lol

[true locust]

Why you need eri 10/5?

[cunning rock]

She gets a similar passive to NC Bianca, general damage up while her Circle up. Also HS2

[true locust]

Hmm alot invest need

[dusty ivy]

Akari or marnie

[dusty ivy]

I’m pulling it because funni have all leons

I didn’t even think about dc

[still hearth]

Sigh.. only a 2/5 SS Hilbert

[cunning rock]

[still hearth]

What a coincidence

[cunning rock]

One is guaranteed on reset because it's a new month

[safe prawn]

Dc ppl pulling for Hlillie

[rancid meadow]

Too bad Xmas Lillie has no fast debuffing capabilities

[scenic grotto]

I hope the speed buffs Holiday Lillie has doesn’t make her sing as slow as the combination of Sing and Troublemaker 1

[vernal condor]

[thick stump]

in DC just dont take troublemaker

[scenic grotto]

I know, I was just giving an example of how I hope Pep Rally 2 doesn’t slow sing down as much as how troublemaker slows sing down

[cloud timber]

when the user's move is successful.

[scenic grotto]

Oh, I keep making the mistake of mistaking “user’s move” as “User’s Pokemon move”

[cloud timber]

failed sing uses are not successful

[misty forge]

^

[scenic grotto]

Oh! Now I understand, thank you

[cloud timber]

yea

[scenic grotto]

Fairy types having 2 speed buffing units
Sycamore needs to sync
Holiday Lillie needs to put an opponent to sleep
Quite awkward indeed

[cloud timber]

i'm thinking best way to get to +6 spe is to spam sing without para until you get there

there have been mentions of using moonblast which i don't think will ever be worth but idk animation time length

spa drop would make it worse for sure

[still hearth]

Lillie’s banner lasts past the December Datamine right? If I get lucky and get NC Blue early imma pull on Lillie banner

[scenic grotto]

Well B disarming voice would activate the skill and apply SEUN to ally

[cloud timber]

usually you'd want to save that for the last syncs possible if it's even fast enough to be worth using

[fluid anvil]

2 sings + 1 TM = 6 speed
also for Lillie +4 speed might be enough tbh

[cloud timber]

yea

[scenic grotto]

Good, thanks for clearing that all up for me because ever since datamine I thought it was a NC Leaf situation where the effect happens even if the move appears to have no effect
But now I know it’s more like a Lucian situation

[cloud timber]

yeah leaf's passive text says “uses a status move” and no mention of needing to be successful

[scenic grotto]

Cool

[cloud timber]

lucian's team viral hustle is also the same, spdef drops need successful uses

most secondary effects on moves rely on successful uses

from grid tiles

including all mgrs and mprs

i think there's tiles with an mgr effect that always work but they aren't labeled mgr

[scenic grotto]

There is definitely a skill that refreshes MP after the first sync
Sync Burst I think

TM + B Move = 4 speed would be more reliable if no speed boosts happen if sing misses

[cloud timber]

not sure there's much risk of missing too much, you get tons of attempts

[scenic grotto]

True

[vernal condor]

propelling move

[cloud timber]

yeah that

worst case if sing is too unreliable for buffs in any situation i think it's still better to go back to moonblast for speed buffs than to waste a b move early

like if you're also trying to get an early enough para off static cling from milo

but idk if that makes it matter even

[scenic grotto]

Yeah, just a matter of hoping that there is enough gauge

[vernal condor]

Milo ?

oh yeah he has a team mult

but also reactive passive :/

[cloud timber]

yeah everyone's hesitant now but there's still potential

might be too garbage for multi

[vernal condor]

I think milo has potential for grass teams

[cloud timber]

mainly for that and cakewalk

[vernal condor]

Hmm

For grass specifically he wants 3/5, but for the rest 2/5 is enough for static cling

I need to see when his banner stops

23 dec

If I get Lillie fast maybe

[scenic grotto]

I like the roll compression on Holiday Lillie, as for what units could be paired with Holiday Lillie:
If main sync nuker is special attack then NC Blue can provide the Para and Sp. Attack/Crit buffs
If main sync nuker is physical then 3/5 Sonia might be the best option for Para with Attack/Crit buffs
If main sync nuker can buff their own offences then Redlax or Chase can be used to inflict para whilst having Support/Sprint combo

Of course Sonia might not work and you have to use Elio or Colress as your sync countdown spammer instead of Holiday Lillie

[cloud timber]

i believe redlax will be the standard and other options would depend on needing to supply other specific buffs or setting mults

sonia is mostly a budget option

much of her utility was being able to provide gauge for melony but any para user can work now and her reactive passive in team swift reaction can hold things back

but there's still offensive buffs and quick defense drops

[vapid kernel]

A milestone

I got many para procs

This is almost impossible to recreate

[cunning rock]

Would praying for TM MPRs be better or does MGA + Self buffs weigh it down?

[fair mist]

mga has the possibility of preventing quads and also just expiring at obnoxious times

[cunning rock]

Does quadqueuing even matter in DC?

[cloud timber]

it doesn't

it's definitely an option but it doesn't help much when talking about reliability

just can potentially save an otherwise failed attempt

but it also needs 2/5

and you need to grid moonblast mgr so if you ever need to click that you're slowed down by that marginal amount

[cunning rock]

I don't think Moonblast would ever be a problem if you just double TM.

[fair mist]

is holiday lillie supposed to be a dc unit

[cunning rock]

After that you're probably just Sing spamming unless your DD has Inertia

[cloud timber]

yes

[cunning rock]

Sprint/Support + Party Speed boosting + Zero innate passives tied to Sing

She outright replaces Melony unless you're using Melony's buffs

[cloud timber]

you don't have access to double tm on 100% of your runs, and ideally you're just getting your speed off successful sings

[cunning rock]

With her having more Speed, I think +4 party speed should usually be enough to keep spamming until the end. Depends on how slow the other units are, I guess?

[cloud timber]

yeah

[sullen zephyr]

How does giacomo do in dark 3v3?

[cunning rock]

Pretty good

[cloud timber]

yeah that was with 5/5 and 10/5 is available

[true locust]

Eri and giacomo not popular

Not many will invest it

[cloud timber]

chase on third multi, nice

[true locust]

You dont have chase lol?

[cloud timber]

i do now

[true locust]

Good now you can do way more in dc

Chase is op but sad got riped on 10/5 for it

All get sync reduce he not wat a bad joke

Poor chase

Did dena told ranked results are in? In messaged?

So why leaderboard is empty?🤣 or im sleep still

[cloud timber]

looks like they didn't do it right

should at least show your own score so something's there but not the actual board

[true locust]

Haha and also no ranked tittles as well

Dena always in top form

[cloud timber]

yep

[zenith jolt]

For now, does N Zekrom could be the score breaker for electrik since his superawakening passive and his rex v

[fluid anvil]

10/5 SS Hau will still outdamage him by a lot in 3v3
but yeah 10/5 N does way better in DC now

[safe prawn]

That’s why they gave N a broken super awakening, there’s another premium unit which does more dmg already

[zenith jolt]

Hau dosen’t have yet 10/5 right ?

But yeah makes sense

Zekrom could do 500k by sync if he’s played with Blue and Emmet SS

Problem is, how to rush for sync spam

[cloud timber]

yeah going to need h lillie/melony

and you're not dropping blue

[zenith jolt]

It’s missing 2 debuff electric or missing +7 boost sync

[thick stump]

I’d rather drop the +7 sync

[cloud timber]

yeah even at 10/5 i don't see emmet competing with nc blue for a slot

[thick stump]

Its for one sync while blue gives 50% for every sync

On top of his innate giving an extra 20%

[cloud timber]

especially when your damage dealer supplies its own field ex terrain

so far n has gotten 1.37m in electric multi, 5/5 ex i believe

ss hau has done over 6m

10/5 can't be covering that much ground

though role helps too

but also that score was likely not super optimized, just the only point of reference to go off of currently

yeah no extra energy so you can at least grab 2 more sync tiles

[pallid girder]

Better than Ash (top 2 electric mt back then)? Likely. Better than SS Hau? I hughly doubt it tbh.

[fluid anvil]

Ash was able to break 4M, I'm not sure N does even at 10/5 tbh

[cloud timber]

yea

[zenith jolt]

We’ll see

I Hope for him lmao

Anyway so next SS is Fire Water and Grass (again)

?

Who are the horsemen for this one, leon for the fire ?

I fear Hop grass Will be the best for the grass stage

Same for bede Inteleon

Nah this one’s for Serena

[safe prawn]

It could be the bede+serena combo
Galar circle + SEUN on tm + rain

As I can see Vmarnie+ArcLeon+a status spammer

[rancid meadow]

Arc Leon + NC Leaf + status spammer/spmun seems better. NC leaf covers sun and debuffs

[dry whale]

Missed crit. Had a better run with a modified grid that died right at the end when two psychic triggered sp def down and ate up the time.

If I can find the time I'll give it a quick half hour , not gonna put to much time in for a few more tickets.

https://youtu.be/qb-Om84oM_w

[safe prawn]

Marnie covers sun and galar special circle… I do see Marnie/arcleon/melony being a thing if there’s enough gauge

[rancid meadow]

You get max fire rebuff down with NC Leaf too

[zenith jolt]

3 variety made for a SS such unfair lmao

[true locust]

Bede i don’t see good for dc but others two yes

[zenith jolt]

I see him very build for, except that Serena seems way Better However

[true locust]

Serena is the best

[misty forge]

Bede is a great unit in general

[rancid meadow]

Wait, and that's not even a full potential Marnie. Impressive

[true locust]

Bede is not bad but serena is the best for ranked dc

Bede have rain but dps on low spe def are not the best

[rancid meadow]

Would Chase score worse?

[true locust]

Chase score are similar

I did 3,68m whit chase

[dry whale]

Two missed crits. About 200k damage loss. If I had hit them I would have put me around 4.14m

I'll call it here, this has way to much RNG

https://youtu.be/ymyyF5-lNac?si=1WBibyVM6WzJ-Zyd

[dry whale]

Honestly if Blue has Hostile environment 10 this would be so much more tolerable, having to reset anywhere from 1 minutes to 30+minutes just to get an attempt is not cool.

[fluid anvil]

NC Marnie didnt have guaranteed sync crits?

[vernal condor]

If it's TM Propulsion you can't get both

oh actually not even

protect super prep goes hard

[copper otter]

@true locust so i can legit get Chase to 10/5. is he worth it?

[vernal condor]

No

[cloud timber]

i'd imagine redlax would be much more useful

chase's was not good

for dc

[hollow wadi]

Im so close to 900 tickets

Super tempted to just 3/5 cheren

Gives me a decent dark unit and I think he’s good for LG when/if that comes around

[thick stump]

he's super good

aoe atk/sp atk/sp def drops is goated

[sacred badger]

Really

I just 3/5 dc nemo for january

I can 2/5 dc cheren atm

But ill wait for 2 more weeks mmhmm

[hollow wadi]

Wait I didn’t read that part of his kit that’s insane

Only thing that bugs me about him is sprint ex

I know dc units only get sprint/field but he would love tech ex

[cunning rock]

3/5 DC Cheren is looking solid for ST Dark DC. Considering he has SEUN, team speed, and evasion.

[hollow wadi]

Like as an attacker?

[cunning rock]

Yup.

He has innate based on his Evasion and has Brainpower on grid

[hollow wadi]

Def gonna invest into him then

But I gotta hit 370k on this dc to afford him 😭

Any way non-EX’d Sidney can pull it off

[cunning rock]

You don't need to worry about ST Dark DC because that's at the end of December

[hollow wadi]

Oh true

[true locust]

No lol he got shafted for dc. Only lax is ok

[sacred badger]

Interesting. NC Serena is for my dark st tbh o.o

[cunning rock]

NC Serena should still be better for Dark ST

But at least there's more options for F2Ps

[vagrant ivy]

if we’re talking lodge cheren then I really wouldn’t call it a good option

[cunning rock]

DC Cheren

Not Lodge

[vagrant ivy]

yet to try that so I’m interested to see how it goes

[cloud timber]

less than 100k improvement over larry but it's something

[mossy adder]

I don't have Melony but I do have Meloetta, I noticed that there's not much in Melony's kit that's required for fights except for sing - so can I just use Meloetta instead if the team calls for Melony?

[cloud timber]

she ends up netting less sync buffs due to her transformation on sync

meaning she needs to use a b move to both use her support/sprint ex and continue singing

which ends up in a worse position than melony

she's still frequently used esp if the team needs psychic or fighting rebuff but she's not usually optimal

she does have a much better speed stat though so she's less reliant on stuff like nc blue or chase for gauge

[mossy adder]

Ok, what about Elio and Primarina, can I use that instead?

[cunning rock]

Elio works better with Redlax because of the fact that Elio's passive doesn't make him as reliant on Speed buffs for gauge.

The problem is that the same passive makes him slower than Melony

[cloud timber]

elio is far slower than the other two options due to propelling move 5 appearing 60% of the time

whatever it is it's fairly likely to deny you an extra sync that melony/rosa would get

even though you no longer need to spend time buffing speed or handling gauge

[cloud timber]

so use elio when you can't do anything else for gauge but if you end up using nc blue/chase/sonia/larry as your status setter you can have gauge for melony

and slotting in elio as a replacement will leave you worse off

[royal jolt]

Not bad

[cunning rock]

[long silo]

Oh Bug ST next?

[cunning rock]

Yup. Next reset

[long silo]

📈

[normal parcel]

I mean ultimate premium trying to beat premium+ makes sense

[fluid anvil]

does anyone here even have a 10/5 SS Hilbert ? 💎

[royal jolt]

I can't wait for triple Steel
10/5 Steven go brr

[normal parcel]

Pokefairs at home wont beat masterfairs, but pokefairs in whales hands can

[pallid girder]

I feel when facing +2 speed opponents, Elio use 2 turns to debuff speed to 0 can actually consistently give you silmilar sync number as Melony face +2 speed opponents, especially when your team dont have evasion.

[long silo]

SS Lear for me. Sadly no VThorton but I can try Chase + DC Blue

[cloud timber]

it's definitely underexperimented but yes there's potential

bigger effect on multi where you aren't facing chance penalty but you're getting greater return

[royal jolt]

I can't wait to have my scores blown out of the water by SS Lear! 🫡

[cloud timber]

even gives elio a potential edge over the upcoming h lillie

[cunning rock]

The fact that Elio can buff sp atk and atk will always give him a niche over Melony and HLillie should you need it

[cloud timber]

yeah def

[long silo]

I'm sorry bestie

[cloud timber]

i get the sense that it won't be worth going for in single though

[long silo]

I want to try Steven, but I'm going back and forth on giving him one final candy to actually be able to woke him

[cunning rock]

Elio came in clutch for SST Red because SST can't click his TM because it gave party wide regen.

[cloud timber]

melony was still usable, but definitely slower in that case

i'm pretty pleased with 10/5 ss lysandre

[long silo]

Glad you like it

[cloud timber]

yeah

that and access to dahlia will help at least close the gap somewhat between what they are currently as main dds (while dahlia also lacks 10/5)

[royal jolt]

Try not to overshadow me too hard 😔💔

[pallid girder]

Sad 5/5 Giocomo is still a bit weaker than 3/5 Marnie, although it's alr super close.

[normal parcel]

Masterfair are probably still the best "budget" units

Arc are better but definitely less budget

Pokefairs are p2w

[plush palm]

i forgot chase exists

time to redo my ss cyrus clear

[plush palm]

feeling the 2/5 exr chase difference already

[vernal condor]

Circle MG helps a lot

also TShock E9 for some clears

[plush palm]

im suprised he came out so long ago

[vast glade]

Managed to reach Top 100 in the latest Super Sparring. I'd like to thank everyone here who helped me by sharing strats and tips 🙂

[plush palm]

and just so happened to be perfect here

congrats

I settled for top 10k

just didnt have the optimal units this time

my best ice option was 1/5 irida lol

[vernal condor]

He's only 10 month old

[plush palm]

if anything the one this month looks way easier for me

[vernal condor]

not thaaat long ago

[plush palm]

10 months is forever in gacha terms

[vernal condor]

For masters not really

Since there are 18 types it takes some time for a pair to get powercrept

And for a while now supports got roles with specific niches that are hard to beat

[cloud timber]

nc blue is still far more consistent than chase, can take a decent amount of rng just to match up sync count

[vernal condor]

But if he does match he gets more damage

[cloud timber]

seems dependent on dc blue who i haven't gotten the chance to test out yet

without another kanto theme they're both just 20%

[vernal condor]

Ok but one is 20% additive and the other 20% multiplicative lol

[cloud timber]

oh right

[vernal condor]

and then yeah it's either DC Blue or SS Ingo depending on the team and the stage

[cloud timber]

i forget that there's real multiplicative anything beyond base innate

wtz and seun and rebuff too right

[vernal condor]

If the stage buffs SpD it's Blue (because he buffs the circle)
If the DPS is Psychic it's Blue (because theme skills are op)
If the DPS is Ghost it's Ingo (same)
In any other case I believe it's Ingo (Ingo gets -2 in SpD compared to Blue's -1, and is so much more consistent that the damage diff probably isn't worth trying using Blue)

[cloud timber]

i see

[vernal condor]

theme skills are small mults by themselves so I'm pretty sure if the dps is psychic blue is better than ingo, but I didnt do the calcs

[cloud timber]

aren't those flat stat additions

[vernal condor]

yeah

But Blue raises SpA by 24 and if the DPS is strike is raises itself by 30 and if it's tech by 12

+36 to +54 is huge

[cloud timber]

pretty sizeable ye

[vernal condor]

it almost makes Melony better than Blue in a Chase/NC red team

[vapid kernel]

Does anyone know how SS Mina and Volo's sync setting fairy zone compares in duration

I got an extra sprint candy to spend due to mistakes thts wht im asking

[cloud timber]

do either of them use sprint candies

at least mina can use sprint cake

i don't think ss mina has value in dc

chase could have faster eetup for speed and eva boosts and not reactive passive and better aoe para but that one would only matter for ss cyrus basically

wouldn't say he's perfect by any means but he can easily be the top option in a lot of cases

best gauge provider

[vagrant ivy]

tried to make him work

but not having better supports sucks

nor dark zone

[plush palm]

Theres always umbreon i guess?

tho idk if you can afford to slot it in

[true locust]

Then who will be spam if you have no para

[vagrant ivy]

right

yeah I wouldn’t be doing this if I had a dark type strike unit EXd but I don’t

[vagrant ivy]

I can always spam with BP Barry but less syncs in total since he is slow

also no supp EX

imo not worth

maybe DC cheren will beat this score

[normal parcel]

Maybe colress/BP Barry, but charging infliction is slower

[vagrant ivy]

what would be the top score in a theoretical normal type DC

[vapid kernel]

Fairy zone setter with support and sprint

Im planning my Fairy 3V3

[icy pendant]

If you don’t have Wally I suppose so, does it run out before the end if she takes first sync?

[vapid kernel]

Thats what i wanna know

And i cant test before using the Sprint candy

So i was hoping someone can tell me

[plush palm]

zero bc no SE dmg lmao

[vapid kernel]

Palmer 1.6M

[plush palm]

but yes palmer and larry mvp

[still hearth]

Goddamnit tomorrow is Bug Weak and I’m missing only ONE tech candy coin

[vernal condor]

gaming

[vernal condor]

Did you do CS yet

[acoustic chasm]

I was 20 away from top 1k LMAO oh well

[still hearth]

Yes

[restive galleon]

Only 170k,how do I get more

[vernal condor]

Did you confuse them

That looks like a team that should get more than 170k

[pallid girder]

It feels like no 10/5 pfs massively outclassed the previous highest score of a mf yet.
Dark is still Marnie and Rock is still Silver (tho USelene doesnt get 10/5 yet)

[fluid anvil]

Lear outclassed ss lusamines score

[copper otter]

Dahlia too

[hollow wadi]

Didn’t stadium Gloria win for ST flying?

[copper otter]

Yep

[fluid anvil]

Dahlia was already #1 in water 3v3, she is beating herself

and yeah gloria and also later 10/5 ss ingo will be for ghost 3v1

[safe prawn]

Dexio Outclassed Jacq

In single psychic

[pallid girder]

The previous top flying st was alr Gloria. She just top herself.

[fluid anvil]

in fighting 3v1 she beat NC Hop, but very slightly

[safe prawn]

Did we have fighting 3v1 with her awaken?

[fluid anvil]

i think this was very slightly higher than Hops highest verified

[true locust]

I did gloria more then hop did

Fight 3 vs 1

[pallid girder]

The best I've seen was 4.4M. Is 4.4M yours?

[true locust]

I don’t remember exact score but my was highest just batman did 2 whit hop

Was close results

[pallid girder]

Search about batman's score and it seems the range is likely just dmg or evasion roll.

If USelene get a good SA passive, 10/5 would prob outdmg Silver for like 1~2M when Rock MT comes back.

[vernal condor]

I think 10/5 already outdamages just from the 6->9 buffs

[feral hamlet]

What's a DC grid for NC Rosa? I realized I had her 3/5 and can grid her differently now

[true locust]

I use this and head start 1

[feral hamlet]

Thanks

[fallen trail]

yea she doesnt need much

you can maybe grab the tmove pmun/smun tile

[feral hamlet]

And what was the verdict on Sing accuracy?

[cloud timber]

well relative to volo she has zone setting animation which takes away a bunch of the time saved by sprint ex and you need to use bp barry as spammer either way so you'll have a support ex already

you'd need it either way to delay fairy zone setter sync to last the fight

but volo needs to sync too

thing is volo has 30% extra sync boost on his passive to compensate

under any circle

[cloud timber]

sing accuracy does in fact save time equating to a few seconds over the course of a whole fight

#916852044692856834 message

[cloud timber]

i have some ideas for a purer/stricter comparison though

[cloud timber]

it's equaling out within a second between no accuracy, grid accuracy, and grid accuracy plus pinpoint entry

i'll upload

there's known natural variance between when the enemy attacks, input perfection, and impervious activations since i couldn't test in a place without debuff chance

[loud cedar]

bug st hmmmmmmm

[cloud timber]

should make h lillie a safely better option than melony despite lacking sing accuracy tiles due to advantage with sprint exr

even if you were using them in the same team which realistically you wouldn't

not together but with the same two teammates

i used burn to ensure no para procs were getting in the way so i could at least eliminate that factor

i'll have to re-examine closely before ditching ppe2 though

not something i wanted to have to think about but it's an issue whether anyone admits it or not that we don't have anything to go off of other than repeating each other

https://youtu.be/gJx4XRoie7U?si=nuA3tqaD5V61IcHq

hs1 and adr1 consume time too so i'll have to get a comparison there too

[cloud timber]

https://youtu.be/gaLaRbl8WE8?si=RAri8UXSYKqWj7Nh&t=113 take sync move time and subtract by the max move time and compare without adrenaline, basically it ends up that adrenaline consumes 0.49 to advance the sync counter by 1

first head start 1 takes 0.55, second head start 1 takes 0.48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_13dzJi-0Q

impatient 1 takes 0.55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqVXuPhAp8

maybe there's more weird variances just on those passive lengths but i'm too lazy to go back and try again to see

adrenaline best if you're using it, a single impatient proc is exactly the same as head start

and you can figure out how long a sing lasts from the other video

[vast hazel]

Can someone help me figure out what do I do wrong? I feel like I should be doing more than 700k

Perhaps it's Akari

After I sync, I use Marnie's B move, is that a mistake?

[thick stump]

yea you shouldn't be using it after every sync

[old valve]

Ah shit damage challenge ends today right

I guess I just throw Karen at this or what

[thick stump]

ex barry would help too

[old valve]

Oh wait mega tax crap

I guess marnie would be better

Maybe

[cloud timber]

yeah

[old valve]

Marnie gaming it is then

[cloud timber]

usually i've seen people use marnie b move after every sync

idk when it wouldn't be better

[vast hazel]

I can't do that now. And he's not on my priority list even 💀

But is that comp right anyway?

I feel like I could do better but idk what

I tried replacing Akari with Chase and I did worse

I replaced her with SS Roxie and did the same damage

[cloud timber]

if you have chase run melony alongside him

don't set chase to tank

[vast hazel]

Chase Melony and Marnie?

[cloud timber]

yes

[vast hazel]

Okay I'll try that

Do I need any grids for Melony?

[cloud timber]

melony isn't hindered by charging infliction so she rushes syncs a bit faster than bp barry even though you'll need to supply gauge

not really

stalwart is good, she has it on grid

[vast hazel]

Okay I'll try her

[cloud timber]

and if either one of them have support ex it can go a long way

[still hearth]

Hopefully I can get 1 more tech coin before bug weak ends

Might have to postpone Lillie’s lodge for another pairs lodge story thing to get the last coin

[vast hazel]

Chase has ex + r but it didn't really go a long way 😂

Just 800k

[cloud timber]

lol

[vast hazel]

Which is still something

Which moves am I supposed to use from Chase?

The circle once and the acceleration twice?

[cloud timber]

circle lasts for 50 seconds, you want to make sure you use it both times to buff as many syncs as you can

[vast hazel]

Okay

So both moves 2 times

And only Sing from Melony

[cloud timber]

i'm not certain on optimal move order for chase since i just started using him and i haven't looked at videos involving him too closely but you want to make sure you get in a bunch of tms early to buff speed and evasion

you'll have to see if you can use that evasion to get in a potential extra sync over what you have currently

[vast hazel]

Ty for the help

[pallid girder]

Also if you want para as soon as possible, some thunder shock with HE9 is required.

[sacred badger]

oh right

bug weak today

[worldly tapir]

Who is the best f2p bug for DC?

[cunning rock]

Viola but unfortunately she's really bad because she needs a lot of help buffing and her multiplier relies on Trap, which eats on time

You can probably get a decent score with Guzma as an alternative

The best F2P clear in the sheet is Guzma/Noland/Hilbert for almost 500k

[worldly tapir]

Unfortunately i only have 1/5 guzma

[cunning rock]

Sadly ST Bug is one of the worse ones because F2Ps barely have any options.

[cursive linden]

Who's ready?

[split bolt]

[true locust]

Fubert time but now its at least 50% chance he miss crit not like 3 vs 3 99%💡

[pallid girder]

The best f2p bug st was 4* Noland does furry cutter spam with Guzma syncing.
Noland can't sync bc sync reset fury cutter counter, which is just stupid.

[cunning rock]

[cursive linden]

5/5

Make him into a demon

[cunning rock]

I'll probably try 1/5 again first to see how far it gets me

[cursive linden]

That 2nd rebuffs go brrrrr

What's Mechbert's innate? SuperEffective or Sp. Atk?

[cunning rock]

Sp Def drops

[cursive linden]

Oh

I think you could do 1/5

If you have bug zone or smth

[cunning rock]

1/5 SC Ingo

[cursive linden]

That will work

[cunning rock]

We'll see, there aren't any recorded runs of 1/5 SS Hilbert hitting 1M

[pallid girder]

ST Bug is quite poor even for limited options.
SS Hilbert, SSSC Ingo, SC Barry, HViola

[cunning rock]

Everyone there except SC Ingo could hit 1M if they're invested.

[pallid girder]

Lol SC Ingo not SS. SC Ingo can hit 1M.

[true locust]

Did fubert crit syncs?🧐

[cloud timber]

nope

missed at least one but it was early

[true locust]

Haha fubert why 10/5 is not sure crit why dena🙃

[pallid girder]

Bc they want to sell the future bug arc striker with insane sync dmg AND sure crit sync

[cunning rock]

Welp. Time to crush ST Bug DC

Crushed

[crude sandal]

Anyone tried H. Viola as a para unit and field unit?

[cursive linden]

I am ready

[long silo]

Excuse me but do Lyra and Hilbert's eyes really look like that

[copper otter]

i have, it's miserable.

you need to use bug zone to para, but paralyzing debuffs everything which slows down everything.

[cunning rock]

What are you talking about? It always looked like that

[long silo]

I don't have both so actually a /srs question

[crude sandal]

I'm more excited for steel 3v3 thsi Friday

Now, let's see if SS Lear or 5/5 Gloria will be superior this Friday

[cursive linden]

That team uses way too much tms

[cunning rock]

Well, VLyra is pretty much the same as OG Lyra. It's just edited

3/5 DC Cheren. Let's see if he gets 1M easier than 3/5 Archer

[plush palm]

chase team might be able to get a extra sync in but idk if its worth it

[cursive linden]

I forgor to use Techno Blast

💀

[cloud timber]

hilbert can do his own seun

[plush palm]

yeah but i aint got the patience for that

[cloud timber]

even without mpr it's still 2 uses

redlax is only covering seun for your worse syncs

[plush palm]

my patience is still limited

[cloud timber]

you don't have to keep playing

you don't have to act like you want input either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kR3wlX3lk4

[cursive linden]

Why i did so low?

[cursive mauve]

Ok

[cursive linden]

Wait what?

[cloud timber]

yeah

suboptimal grid though, didn't need speed tile and you could grab a spa tile

[royal jolt]

Revenge

Is super slowering hit even worth going for at 4/5?

I'm well aware I can't get Cakewalk and stuff, but I'm thinking a slower opponent move cue is helpful, no?

[cloud timber]

doesn't seem like it'd be denying you anything else for sync damage even at +0e

and you need to attack once to set rebuff anyway

so might as well negate speed buff in the process

[true locust]

This is most optimal fubert grid

[royal jolt]

Silly question
Why is he referred to as "fubert?"

[true locust]

Since all his units for me good as his dog unit fubert

All off them have alot issue

This one alot time for set up and miss crit all time

[cloud timber]

i'd just say adam speaks his own language really

[true locust]

For me its just fubert:)

[royal jolt]

Ah
Makes sense

[true locust]

Hilbert will be when dena make unit wat are not on lv off his dog unit

[hollow whale]

I don’t really understand most of what you’re saying lol

[cursive linden]

I'll take it
2.2M requires para RNG and 1 MPR

[true locust]

Hilberts kits unit this days are bad . Its wat im saying in short

Still miss 1 crit dam you fubert

[cursive linden]

What the fuck

[pallid girder]

10 days before all Melony got replaced by HLillie.

[true locust]

For this run if you have melony or lillie not change nothing at all

Maybe have 1 more techno blast in the end its like 70k more

[pallid girder]

Less rng for more syncs (sprint exr + TM -cd etc) is definitely an upgrade I assume.

[cloud timber]

it helps but it's not always going to shake up each specific run

[cursive linden]

Ok what the fuck?

WHY IS IT SO LOW?

[cloud timber]

need to grind for another sync off evasion

[true locust]

Did you use same grid like me?

[cursive linden]

Yeah this

What? I have to dodge EVERYTHING?

[true locust]

Then you set up thing diffrent then me

[cursive linden]

Oh.....

[true locust]

Not realy need dodge all things

[cursive linden]

The 2 rebuffs or Kekwalk?

[true locust]

4 rebuff

[cursive linden]

4?

[true locust]

Need hit 4 time

They raise speed

[cursive linden]

Wait huh?

I was talking about 2 BUG rebuffs

What the fuck is going on

[true locust]

No i use 1 bug rebuff

[cursive linden]

Oh ok2

[pallid girder]

It's the 101 of using Chase. Not necessary dodge everything but Chase personally need to get hit at least as possible.

@ wrong guy minutes ago. Sorry.

[true locust]

Then you hit his move hilbert 4 time so you low speed -6

Since they raise speed x 2

And need low spe def -6 also

And get fuberts tmp also befor sync

Need get fubert 2 tmp

[cursive linden]

I think i found the problem

[true locust]

All my sync was super effective up next

[cursive linden]

I FORGOT TO USE DIRE HIT

[cloud timber]

your crit should still be maxed by chase tms no

[cursive linden]

Wait

Chase's TM

Yeah

Then wtf

[cloud timber]

5 support coins til 3/5 chase

[cursive linden]

Yeah that team is way too much for me

[royal jolt]

Yayyy!
A 463 point improvement

[cursive linden]

Yeah i can't get higher with Chase

Needs that RNG bullshit

[royal jolt]

I tried Chase at first, but I didn't think it successful

Maybe it was a bad run, but eh

[cloud timber]

3/5 and 5/5 tiles help, entry boosts and sync burst and adr1

[true locust]

Yeap

And i have crit 1 from start on chase

So you use chase tm once for max crit

[crude sandal]

Team Sharp Entry?

[cloud timber]

presumably

[royal jolt]

Melony can take care of that +1 crit on entry

[cloud timber]

team grand entry is the bigger one anyway, get to max spa faster and you can use failed x spa tms to buff speed and eva

[sacred badger]

I hit 900k

What am i doing wrong hrm

[cursive linden]

https://vxtwitter.com/Sodium07338972/status/1863579813631643728

DC Tierlist

[vernal condor]

What is bud raikou doing here

[rain copper]

his best

doesn't he have a reactive passive

[cursive linden]

Paralysis with Crit buffs

I guess????

[vernal condor]

omg yes

[royal jolt]

SS Ingo???

What's he got?

(I don't have him)

[vernal condor]

nah he's washed

[cursive linden]

Bug Zone

[vernal condor]

Spam

SS Ingo not SC lol

He has spam + insane accel

[nova remnant]

Brother that's SC

Lmao

[cursive linden]

Wait

I'm nlind

[vernal condor]

• -2 def or SpD if you need either

[cursive linden]

Blind

[royal jolt]

It's ok
It happens, lol

[cursive linden]

👨‍🦯

[vernal condor]

or yknow, i have a doc that lists the usefulness of different pairs

[royal jolt]

Okay but
What's it based on, though?

[vernal condor]

It's a support list

[cursive linden]

Support list

[vernal condor]

as in, they're not the one dealing the damage

[royal jolt]

Like, S-tier is obviously the no brainer units

[rain copper]

uhh what is Volo doing here???

[royal jolt]

But the others seem
Situational??

[cursive linden]

Yeah

[vernal condor]

SS Lear A is copium

[cursive linden]

Volo is circle

[royal jolt]

Like who is actually running SS Wally?

[vernal condor]

He's a fairy support

[royal jolt]

Outside of Fairy, you should not have him at all

[vernal condor]

yeah some are type specific

[cursive linden]

In Friday he'll rule the world

[vernal condor]

but wally isn't your main dps on fairy 3v3

[cloud timber]

it does seem weird to rank penny and ss wally when they're type specific

[vernal condor]

yeah

same for gardenia

and a bunch of others

[cursive linden]

That's why they're D tier

[nova remnant]

Has anyone actually used HJasmine here

[cursive linden]

[royal jolt]

Like
Janine

[vernal condor]

janine has spam without animation

[cursive linden]

Para + SEUN

[vernal condor]

wish oleana

[royal jolt]

Ok, bad example, lol

[nova remnant]

I know but i rarely ever see run with HJasmine

[royal jolt]

I'm just very confused here

[vernal condor]

because she isn't really good

[cursive linden]

Janine in D is because Oleana is in A

[vernal condor]

She's good with uh
SC Diantha
Yeah that's it

[vernal condor]

Because oleana isn't just spam lol

[royal jolt]

Oleana is pretty neat

[vernal condor]

she has supp r, stat drops, actual gauge

[cursive linden]

The lower the rank the more situational the unit become

[vernal condor]

SS Lear is hella situational, C tier at best

[true locust]

Emmet its make no sens for me on this list

[nova remnant]

Archie 😭

Just there for water DC

[true locust]

Emmet cant para nobody since you get trap

[vernal condor]

Archie has been used in 2 types, arguably higher tier than Wally and Penny

[cursive linden]

NC Serena's pals in 3v1

[royal jolt]

That's why it makes no sense to even rank them 😭

But, they can go off, ig

[vernal condor]

also used with anni raihan
once

[cursive linden]

They had fun probably

It's fun making a tierlist afterall

[true locust]

Nc rosa is too high on the list for sure

[cursive linden]

[vernal condor]

Also if Colress is A, Poppy should to

[pallid girder]

Emmet has circle and et. In a vacuum he can work but only in electric and still not the best choose.

[true locust]

Poppy is way wors the colress

[vernal condor]

nc rosa is type specific

[cursive linden]

Poppy can theoretically higher than Colress

Since you COULD get that sprint sync

[vernal condor]

not on 1v3 stages

[true locust]

Emmet is only same circle like bianca

[cursive linden]

Oh

[royal jolt]

Type specific and she loses a bit of time to her B move, no?

[vernal condor]

well that's why she's type specific to begin with

[cursive linden]

All of these sing users are gonna get dethroned by a new queen

[warped gulch]

She is both type and region

[cursive linden]

[warped gulch]

Bc Bianca

[royal jolt]

Lodge Shauna...
What could've been

[vernal condor]

and nate

but yeah

[warped gulch]

L Shauna just isn’t good in DC

[royal jolt]

Nope

[warped gulch]

But she is great or nice else where

[vernal condor]

She could've been

[pallid girder]

Like I said in a vacuum. Some ppl just dont have all those tier S/A unit so they need to find a way from their roster.

[royal jolt]

And I am a bit sad about it

But they just HAD TO slap on Healthy Healing

[vernal condor]

and charging infliction

[royal jolt]

That, too

[vernal condor]

you need to remove both in order for her to potentially be used

[fluid anvil]

SS Lear far too high, otherwise maybe ok

[royal jolt]

New QoL change
Let us deactivate default passives 🙏