Damage Challenge

[cloud timber]

on all the other modes

a lot of blue's use in dc is the fact that melony needs para and gauge and blue is one of the like 4 units that can do that efficiently in most cases, others being sonia, chase, and larry

[vernal condor]

well, on top of team sync mult and both def drop aoe on sync

but yeah he's crazy outside of dc too

[cloud timber]

yeah those are huge

rise of h lillie will make redlax more often preferred in particular

as para setter

[brisk shale]

btw how much the 30% flinch on the first turn to make the opponent waste gauge helps?

[vernal condor]

I'm not too sure, his TM is slow so even if SEUN is nice it might not be the best

It helps quite a bit

[long silo]

H Lillie only requires 1/5 for DC specifically?

[vernal condor]

Yes

[long silo]

Something to keep at the back of my mind

[vernal condor]

because then it uses its TM immediately, and all following move will actually consume gauge. While if you don't, they'll only really consume gauge from their 4th move onward

[cloud timber]

i feel like redlax has performed consistently better than nc blue in the cases that there somehow also manages to be enough gauge for melony

[vernal condor]

true

[cloud timber]

big buff to my adaman score

[brisk shale]

was wondering in terms of seconds

[vernal condor]

rough estimation like that, maybe 5sec

It saves around 1 or 2 moves worth of gauge

[cloud timber]

yea i'd also ran redlax/melony for c hop in fighting single and gloria in steel triple, nc blue was not competing in either case

[vernal condor]

Welp

Time to 10/5 red

[cloud timber]

yeah

[vernal condor]

(i dont even know if it helps ngl, you get max countdown but you also proc max regen and pmun 2 so idk)

but then again you already proc max regen now so

[cloud timber]

yeah there is a problem with a damage reduction passive that penny also has and that people have chosen to avoid 10/5ing her for

and that was with adr3

different damage reduction passive but it should function similar

[vernal condor]

The DR passive shouldn't do anything

Did people with 10/5 penny actually notice a difference

[cloud timber]

lol idk

[brisk shale]

https://youtu.be/GFx0ucCIXW8&t=606

it did pop up

[vernal condor]

It pops up, but does it slow down

it's not a reactive passive like fist bump

[cloud timber]

at this point i'm not sure if there are actually any passives that don't slow things down

because i know that vigilance does

[vernal condor]

really?

[cloud timber]

yeah

[vernal condor]

ok i checked the video, it definitely did lose half a second

man if you lose half a second per time it procs, it's rough

i'll test smth

[cloud timber]

the delay looks weird when it happens before a sync because it looks like it takes a full second, 60 frames of time with just the passive popping up

but when it's before a regular attack it's 8 frames

frames aren't really a useful metric, can get the time

[vernal condor]

I've finished my test

Sterner Stuff

No passive

It's the same

[icy bramble]

I used bp barry, nc rosa and melony for it

[copper otter]

That seems really off then if you didn't reach 100k

[vernal condor]

In game it really feels like it's slower, but the timer actually stops at the same time so the sterner stuff animation doesn't take any time from the chrono

[vernal condor]

Maybe it works differently for SA passives, or when it's not a sync/max, but for the purpose of sync/max it's the same

[cloud timber]

~0.56 in the video from 1:20:54 to 1:19:98 (in game timer) is time where just the passive procs

[copper otter]

No sygna suit Erika?

[vernal condor]

I can test with crush grip

crunch -> crush grip -> anabel max to stop the timer

[icy bramble]

I have her exed, is it possible to use ss erika with sc rosa for this?

[copper otter]

No

[plush palm]

sc rosa can hit 1m

[copper otter]

SSErika will need someone to sync rush as much as possible. Sc rosa would need to be a separate team comp.

[plush palm]

ofc my comp also used sc steven and barry w/ sc rosa

you can probably make redlax + elio work

[vernal condor]

nvm crush grip i have combo freebie, tm it is

No passive

Sterner Stuff

I got a 2:49:18 in both cases, so it's the same too

[plush palm]

not surecwhat youre trying lol

[vernal condor]

on average ig it loses some time

[vernal condor]

Testing if damage reducing passives do waste time

For the purpose of Red's and Penny's SAs

[plush palm]

why isnt red being targetted then

[vernal condor]

that's anabel

[plush palm]

oh

[vernal condor]

Elaine has sterner stuff, so it should emulate the effect

@scarlet ivy since you were asking

At best, damage reducing passives don't waste any time and at worst you lose maybe .03, it's nothing

[scarlet ivy]

kkk, thanks

[brisk shale]

top 1k, barely

[rain copper]

Sonia usage

Was Dahlia spamming Teeter Dance

[brisk shale]

ye

turbo turf 2+speeding sun 3 helps
i crit all 4 syncs but only had time for seun on the 2nd and 4th
btw someone got 1m with +10e erika (for +20atk) with melony instead of dahlia in non ranked

[torpid wigeon]

Gamers i am nervous i'm 98th and trying to see if i can squeeze any damage out of misty to gain 1 or 2 spots

Ok wtf skill gear is insane

I changed it round and got 160k damage free

That took me to 81st 💀💀💀ok i'm good to just sleep

Bianca colress is amazing i am a big fan basically budget red meloetta because red wasn't available

[cloud timber]

ok ran my own tests and yeah now i'm confident that sterner stuff consumes 0 time

[vernal condor]

[torpid wigeon]

(With no free move)

[cloud timber]

it also brings up some mysterious variance from just the first enemy attack move timing but i tested enough to make sure it wasn't causing issues on its own

bianca + colress is super solid in general

[pallid girder]

Just make more units with self eva even if it's self +2. Dena plz.

[warped gulch]

Making Agile Entry LS

[vernal condor]

suddenly 5000 more LA solos

[torpid wigeon]

Max team speed + max team evasion + -6 def + power up teammate sync is so insane i was hesitant pulling her but i'm so in love now

[cloud timber]

big dc pick for sure

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cloud timber]

you got aaron?

[pallid girder]

I feel like they didn't make Agile Entry an universal LS for the exact same reason.
Want ppl to suffer in DC and LG!

[cloud timber]

agile entry ls would cause more suffering than save any

easily

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cloud timber]

best shot at replacing bp barry and maintaining support ex is that, don't compromise your ice team so use for fairy

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[plush palm]

imagine the kind if hell agile entry would be in LG

[hollow wadi]

My dark roster is actually nonexistent, any good f2p options for it?

[glossy token]

@cloud timber so update on irida/ice super sparring

i forgor i have hilbert

so i can get -6spdef + ice rebuff

which i think will outscore mpr rolling with redlax since her sync isnt aoe anyway

[copper otter]

Unfortunately, Dark is really down bad f2p wise.

The only ones i can think of that are good are Nanu, and BP Karen which is yikes

Genpool wise, Karen is decent but needs 3/5, and Sidney/MR need 3/5 at least

[glossy token]

also linkable

whats the holillie update?

[copper otter]

She's an upgrade to Melony and adds Redlax into her kit

[hollow wadi]

Think I got Sidney 3/5, I’ll mess with him a bit

[glossy token]

i missed the details of her kit

[icy pendant]

actual Karen for 3v3 seems okayish?

[pallid girder]

MR can hit 1M iirc but need premium teammates

[glossy token]

goddamn am i gonna need to get a seasonal

[copper otter]

It's decent

I won't say amazing, but decent

[copper otter]

She's gonna be really good

[pallid girder]

Never seen Karen and Sidney did 1M last time.

[pallid girder]

Just stick to Melony if you don't care about rank.
But if you do, yup pull her.

[glossy token]

hm, so question

pep rally 2 + sing

sing fail on para = no pep rally proc?

[copper otter]

Correct

[glossy token]

is that how we circumvent that being delay

goddamn ok

they really went FINE FINE HAVE IT YOUR WAY lmao

this rips

[copper otter]

Like she will be the new DC meta

[glossy token]

yeah

[hollow wadi]

Yo she looks busted

[glossy token]

itll be tight to fit in both her and blue

esp if both are unkind

[hollow wadi]

But I already need so much from this month 😭

[glossy token]

maybe go for her from the paid seasonal anni banner?

but

idk

we'll see

even outside of dc thats super solid as a kit

[copper otter]

Arc leon won't be doing much aside from fire 3 v 3 battles

So skip

[glossy token]

oh im not worrying about him lol

[hollow wadi]

Fire 3v1 he’ll still be really good

[glossy token]

nc blue is my #1 atm

[copper otter]

Oh tru tru

[cursive linden]

Goddamn her b move is nice too

[glossy token]

but those banners dont even start til after the holiday banners end

which is goddamn mean of them

so i cant like

get as far as i can on nc blue and Then start pulling for holillie

[hollow wadi]

How often do we get seasonal scouts?

[glossy token]

also rq for current/nearly ended dc

[copper otter]

.....during the season?

[hollow wadi]

Like the paid selects I mean

[copper otter]

Oh always

OH WAIT SELECTS

[icy pendant]

selects are maybe twice a year, and twice might be a stretch

[copper otter]

Ummmmm usually during annis but recent additions don't get added until like 6 months or so

[hollow wadi]

So we won’t see her until 6th anni if at all?

Aside from this banner

[copper otter]

Maybe half anni

[icy pendant]

but you’re looking at NY, Palentine’s, Summer, and Holiday at the very least yearly

[copper otter]

Pal units won't be for half anni

[glossy token]

i would say anni is pretty likely, half anni possible but not likely

[hollow wadi]

I can wait for half anni

[glossy token]

this is my current irida grid from running her with redlax and melony

but we reset that to use melony + larry on grass

[pallid girder]

Yes at least Holiday's rerun is super predictable, unlike mfs and pfs.

If you want sth you know when you'll get it if you skip this time.

[glossy token]

so now i have her with sygna hilbert + bp barry

do i want to adjust her grid at all? take off ramp up and use barry's bmove or smth?

[cloud timber]

don't do that

[glossy token]

ok so same grid

[cloud timber]

well i need to check what grid you have currently

[glossy token]

same one as linked above/in the msg i replied to

[cloud timber]

yeah don't touch that

[glossy token]

ok its lower than the melony run but thats to be expected

might rerun it bc she def missed some sync crits but

hilberts dmg there is one seun +3crit +3spatk techno blast to apply rebuff and then a second seun +3crit +6spatk techno blast at the end

mans is cracked

outdamaging basically all my rock attempts in two hits

[hollow wadi]

Dumb idea but

What if you just rushed SS hilberts dps?

[glossy token]

wdym

[vernal condor]

It's not that good

[hollow wadi]

Like double support + SS Hilbert and spam techno blast

[glossy token]

like, tm mpr farming for mpr?

his damage is only that good bc of seun

[vernal condor]

Chase Bianca Hilbert gets around 800k

[glossy token]

plus irida's boosting in hail + ice zone

[hollow wadi]

Ah lame

[vernal condor]

With techno blast spam

[pallid girder]

You don't do tm mpr. Just pure DPS spam.

[glossy token]

you Could i guess

but

[hollow wadi]

Bet it would work with his superawakening

[glossy token]

i also am gonna rerun it with dropping charging infliction (i didnt think about it at first) and taking brainteaser so

his next value will be even higher lol

[vernal condor]

x1.2 DPS and x1.1 SpA, on top of the extra mult

Yes he would get 1m

Also 5/5 would be enough already lol

[glossy token]

whats his superawakening?

[glossy token]

christ lmao

[pallid girder]

Also imo you better pair with an unit that has decent SE sync (but not enough to do 1M on their own) so you don't waste sync dmg.

[glossy token]

i mean for this case

[hollow wadi]

Wonder if he can do work in fire st then

Like go him, nc leaf, and like SS Morty

[glossy token]

irida setting ice zone is giving him dmg on top of seun + 1 rank of rebuff

[vernal condor]

He gets 1m in all his 5 types by just going dps

[glossy token]

does hilbert glaceon set hail or ice zone?

i presume hail but

[vernal condor]

zone

[glossy token]

oh shit

ok

so hilbert glac + sygna hilbert could do it then

[long silo]

[pallid girder]

Ice zone boosts ice type dmg. Hail doesn't without passive.

[cloud timber]

this is how i got my 690k yes

[glossy token]

i know hail doesnt

hail is the downside of irida

[icy bramble]

I just like playing for fun with my favourite so it's ok

[vernal condor]

imagine not having head start on blue

[glossy token]

bc she boosts during hail

[vernal condor]

couldnt be me

[cloud timber]

would have been worse off without that

[glossy token]

but hail is timeloss

[cursive linden]

Guys I'm gonna use Colress/Furbert 2/5 EX/ nC Bianca

[warped gulch]

[vernal condor]

invert do you have nc bianca and chase

[long silo]

I could have gotten it IF CHASE DODGED ONE MORE

[cursive linden]

I will get 1M

Trust trust

[long silo]

YOOOO

[cloud timber]

i have neither

[vernal condor]

rip

[pallid girder]

Hail makes Irida amazing in UB but god awful in DC.

[glossy token]

yeah

so for the dc context

[cloud timber]

i'll get chase soon, no plans on bianca

[glossy token]

hilbert glac > irida for the purposes of augmenting sygna hilbert

[royal jolt]

what are the weaknesses and rules for the next super sparring?

[pallid girder]

While with sandstorm ArcCynthia just says "nah I can still do better than anyone with it lol"

[copper otter]

v3 Fire: No rules
v3 Grass: No Status/int
v1 Water: Special only

[royal jolt]

oh dear

no status 😭

[vernal condor]

we're used to it by now

[royal jolt]

Oleana time

[vernal condor]

aaron with holiday sycamore

[royal jolt]

me who does not have Sycamore

[vernal condor]

me neither lol

[pallid girder]

I'm more tempted to see another no sync dmg rule to ruin everyone at this point lol.

[glossy token]

this Felt slow but

gonna try and squeak in one more hilbert move as closer

i think that can do 620

[royal jolt]

Oooooh
If I can manage to get two more strike candy coins, I can get SS Hilda to 3/5

[cloud timber]

dena are cowards

[warped gulch]

Now i need to improve for top 20

[royal jolt]

my options for triple fire are not the greatest. It's all oriented towards single

[long silo]

Hi Bestie

May the better RNG wins

[royal jolt]

top 100 is out of my reach this time, I fear

no Adaman

[long silo]

and gears but you win by default

[royal jolt]

Hopefully, top 500 is still possible

[unique abyss]

Oh damn it

[glossy token]

pykuo idk if im allowed to ask but

are you vpn-ing to get around eos

[unique abyss]

It's time to do something

[vernal condor]

doesnt work

[warped gulch]

No

VPN doesn’t work

[cursive linden]

They asked DeNA

[glossy token]

oh damn

im glad to see u still around to be clear

[vernal condor]

but wait did you get your main back oorrr that's the alt

[glossy token]

but was wondering

[warped gulch]

Main one

[vernal condor]

grats

[warped gulch]

[rain copper]

[glossy token]

goddamn hilbert ok

non-seun and he still hit for 50-75kish

anyway this works for me, ty invert especially for the help!!

[cursive linden]

🥳

[glossy token]

(penny is ex but not r; 700k is about what i was aiming for so even if its 'low' for bp valerie/penny it works for me)

and now for gladion fdgjkhdfgj

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vernal condor]

But mawile maxs its crit by using 2 TM ?

[olive wraith]

last one hour

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vernal condor]

Yeah

[rotund sierra]

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[glossy token]

so bearing in mind that this was para spam but no supp sync, if my lucian is not yet ex and my options are lucian or ex pb m2 is lucian still the better move? (this is last cycle, to be clear)

[cloud timber]

but she can get +3

well you know that now

lucian

[lusty galleon]

nice

[bright niche]

Why no one is using ss Steven I'm single Damage challenge

[cloud timber]

no sync multipliers

[bright niche]

I can't able to score more than 7.5 million.??? What should i do

I don't have NC blue and chase

[cloud timber]

neither can anyone else

[glossy token]

7.5mil

lmao

i presume you mean 750k

[pallid girder]

Lucian fulfills his own sync multiplier unlike Mewtwo.
Mewtwo purely relies on critical strike for your st team.

[bright niche]

Yes

[glossy token]

so ok

think of it this way

[bright niche]

So should I ex Olympia or Lucian for 1 million

[pallid girder]

Redlax + NC Rosa can push SS Steven to 1M afaik.

[bright niche]

I have Anni may too

[glossy token]

for a single-target dc like this one, steven not having multipliers means he just cant output enough damage to keep up with other tech units who have multiple in their grids as well as innates

[bright niche]

Idk how people are getting 1 million coz red tm took time

[glossy token]

lots of ways

your team will depend on what your roster is

[pallid girder]

I mean if it boost dmg enough takes time doesn't make it a loss.

[bright niche]

I have Anni may but no ss brendan

[glossy token]

also, does anyone have the lucian grid for dominating + all 6 sync nodes handy?

[vernal condor]

isnt it literally in the doc

[bright niche]

Let me try with Lucian ad Olympia

[glossy token]

... im gonna be so real i opeend and then closed the doc

and full on forgot

[vernal condor]

[glossy token]

dfjkfdkghj

sorry for being stupid <3

[royal jolt]

My first clear used NC Rosa, Anni May, and Summer Tate

[bright niche]

It looks like I have to pull NC blue now

Coz NC red red and NC Rosa is not giving me broken score

For ice too

[cloud timber]

if you're only concerned about dc it's better to pick h lillie first and she won't be relying on nc blue

but blue is good at everything

[pallid girder]

If you don't have NC Blue yet you really should pull him.
He's on par with Arc Steven as the most broken support in game.

[cloud timber]

everywhere else

[bright niche]

That's the reason I haven't even completed most of UB too

[cloud timber]

yeah he goes a long way in making those doable

[bright niche]

Yup

Even Giovanni can score 1 million with NC blue

[glossy token]

ok i feel like im going insane

[old valve]

Ah crap both damage challenges end today don't they

I totally forgot

[pallid girder]

Psychic is stacked with dmg dealers, espeically st.

[unique abyss]

Top 400 ig I'm safe...

[glossy token]

what do you mean energy remaining 0

[royal jolt]

I really should read up on Hollillie's kit

[glossy token]

the final sync tile needs the 5

why else do you take the confusion tile

[pallid girder]

In short: advanced Melony.

[glossy token]

im so confused 😭

[vernal condor]

+6e

or drop adrenaline

[glossy token]

so they just did this clear as like. drop the +6e, run it, and use it to compare the +6 vs not

[cloud timber]

?

pykuo's run was f2p

[vernal condor]

that's not pykuo's

[glossy token]

this wasnt pykuo

[vernal condor]

and that's prob the better grid without +6e

[glossy token]

ok

so theres no f2p dominating and all sync nodes

[vernal condor]

unless your allies dont max your spa, then you need the mpr

[glossy token]

that was what i was losing

[old valve]

I hate to hit the chat with this so late into the day but if anyone's willing to suggest stuff how the heck am I supposed to score on Misty and Erika

[glossy token]

nah im gonna be packing elio most likely

elio redlax lucian

[old valve]

I did Karen with Elio/NY Lisia/NC Blue but I can reverse that if needed

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vernal condor]

I think you're cooked

[royal jolt]

Woah
I need Holillie

[old valve]

[vernal condor]

ok no I didnt see nc red you're fine

[glossy token]

non-ex sygna erika can still do ok

then nc red on ice

[vernal condor]

nc red nc blue whatever spammer you have for ice

that should do at least 3m probably

[glossy token]

irida also does well enough to clear rewards

[old valve]

Ditch NC Blue on Karen then gotcha

[pallid girder]

NC Red alone bring you 3 times the 1M require in a random try lol.

[vernal condor]

ah he's already used

[old valve]

Now to figure out a new Karen clear lol

Nah it ain't worth to keep him on fairy

I got like half a mill there

[old valve]

But yea

Oh yeah how does the Misty cond work

Does it not apply to sync moves or

[vernal condor]

it's physical moves are reduced

so whatever for red

ah wait misty

yeah it's only regular moves, syncs are fine

[old valve]

Okay whew

[glossy token]

crunch is -def right

[vernal condor]

ye

[glossy token]

is it worth to tank with elio since he has unbending on grid?

[vernal condor]

ye

[glossy token]

o7

[fallen trail]

elio should always tank since he has impatient

small chance for sync cd

[glossy token]

not at 2/5 😔

[fallen trail]

i actually needed it in one of my runs

oh rip

[glossy token]

i had to basically pity irida and hes STILL 2/5

bastard

[vernal condor]

impatient is not worth tho

it's slower than sing and if you happen to get it before your sync it's straight up a waste of time

[fallen trail]

i feel like i needed it in my ss lyra clear idk

lyras last sync was after an impatient proc and i got like 4 total

if you're gonna get hit anyways might as well get something off it

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[glossy token]

growl is so slow,,,

[fallen trail]

the clear in question

[vernal condor]

which glaceon

[fallen trail]

which glaceon lol

[vernal condor]

there's 3 of them lol

[cloud timber]

i feel like sing takes up about .9 and impatient takes .6? so it's minimal but there and really bad if it doesn't accomplish anything

[fallen trail]

typically when asking about sync pairs in this game you should refer to the trainers

it's less confusing

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vernal condor]

don't use her with red

her zone is way too slow because of the hail

[old valve]

Shoutouts to women

[fallen trail]

yeah

[glossy token]

so real

[vernal condor]

Do you have egg glaceon ?

[fallen trail]

if it was variety hilbert then it'd mayb be worth

exr

[glossy token]

https://tenor.com/view/upset-thinking-lick-lips-crying-little-women-movie-gif-15778590

[rotund sierra]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[glossy token]

damnit thats not the gif

[old valve]

Okay so SS Erika is better than 1/5 Adaman for Misty or what

[vernal condor]

prob yes

[old valve]

Who do I pair her with shiiit

[vernal condor]

might want to use both together with barry maybe

[cloud timber]

^

[vernal condor]

for rebuff

[warped gulch]

I think i’m safe

[old valve]

Adaman/SS Erika/BP Barry? Got it

[glossy token]

pykuo What

[vernal condor]

the ss ingo probaganda is real

[glossy token]

also

wh

its 12:30

why did i just get a forced update

the app literally just updated this morning

[vernal condor]

probably to fix the leon banner

[glossy token]

i was in the middle of a run???

[glossy token]

rollover is in half an hour cmon dena

[vernal condor]

17 damn

[warped gulch]

[old valve]

Do I bother using Adaman TM or nah

[vernal condor]

eh

synthesis b move repeat

[cunning rock]

Dang shame that he's not Support in any way.

[old valve]

got it

[vernal condor]

i dunno if the damage is worth it

[old valve]

And ramp Erika's speed with her x speeds right

[vernal condor]

ye

[fallen trail]

wait did u get your other account back pykuo

[vernal condor]

yes

[fallen trail]

[warped gulch]

I lived

[cunning rock]

PYKUO LIVES!

[brazen escarp]

gg

also 12m wth

[old valve]

I'llllll take it

And now, Karen

NY Lisia or SS Nemona, hmm.....

UPDATE JUMPSCARE?

[fallen trail]

oh lmao

its probably to fix the arc suit leon scout duration

[cloud timber]

ss nemona

if both 3/5

[old valve]

Nemo 2/5 Lisia 1/5

[old valve]

Limited roster up here if that helps

[cloud timber]

gladion

[old valve]

I assume Lisia would be better for the seun since Nemona's buddy move would take forever to drop def but

Oh even 1/5 Gladion is a good idea?

[cloud timber]

yep

[old valve]

Comp suggestions?

[cloud timber]

need to know your other two teams to know what enablers you have left over

[old valve]

Huzzah

Elio Alola Spirit gaming?

[cloud timber]

redlax/elio would be my call

[unique abyss]

If I only wasn't saving resources I could've get to the top 100

[old valve]

I've never used Redlax for these before but I assume it's just apply seun before the last three syncs and whatnot

And get the para of course

[glossy token]

grid for mpr, apply it as often as you can

iirc he has it at 1/5

[cloud timber]

need seun for that b move

[old valve]

Oh true

So every sync and also the b move after them all then

[glossy token]

yep

[dire spade]

Poor attemps and strategy due to haste before ends, but at least got top 1000

[cloud timber]

yeah

[glossy token]

worst case if you roll unlucky with mprs

save the max replenish one for closing bmove

but you want as many as you can get

[cloud timber]

most important thing is seun on b move, seun on everything else isn't required

[old valve]

How am I gonna be lowering special attack for said b move also

Am I just not or

[cloud timber]

might not be able to, i'm not an expert on ss gladion

but you have to get creative without ss wally/penny

[glossy token]

for after rollover: current ticket count is 1457, with 1/5 on wally, hugh, marnie, blue, and tierno. planning to grab silver and probably cheren, but should i maybe go for dupes on a couple of them before filling out the roster at 1/5?

[old valve]

That'll work I think

Alright bonus round

What do for Gladion

In the normal DC lol

NC Rosa/Steven/NC Blue ig? Lol

[pallid girder]

Don't spam sync. SS Glasdion is bad about his sync.
Redlax + fairy zone user might be better.

[cloud timber]

yeah you have volo

so that might work out better

[old valve]

It's too late for me to worry about improving that one now I think

[cloud timber]

yeah that's fine

[old valve]

Gotta do the psychic one

[old valve]

Does this seem good or nah btw

[pallid girder]

Fine. Not the best for sure.

[old valve]

Sorry, SS Steven

Shoulda clarified that

[cloud timber]

send it

[pallid girder]

Olympia can easily outdmg SS Steven.

[cloud timber]

olympia and lucian can do better

[pallid girder]

It's 10 min left you know.

[cloud timber]

but there's more stuff to figure out there

[unique abyss]

Damn it, so close I started with 6M 1 hour ago, no effort during the event = no good results

[vernal condor]

why rosa 😭

you're literally getting more by using melony unless you're resetting for evasion buff and actually dodging moves

[unique abyss]

Welp, I had Melony on Misty, but I forgot to switch her to Erika

[frail owl]

1m more for the fairy and ice stage is doable

but yeah no time

[unique abyss]

I have skill feathers so yes, my buffs are maybe 15% for each stage so there's a room for improvement

[frail owl]

I feel like people don't even try anymore, only people in top 100, getting top 500 don't even need any effort

[vernal condor]

well you need the units

ice in particular is rough this time

[pallid girder]

Yes if you don't have the units at the right move level, no matter how hard you try the score will just be bad.

[old valve]

I'll take the mil

Last minute w

[vagrant ivy]

GGs everyone

I wish the dena employee who came up with -80% phys damage parameter on 3v3 ice a very stub your toe

[old valve]

Maybe I'll get to stay in top 2k, who knows

[unique abyss]

It depends, I'm a dolphin buying one 3k bundle per month so it's challenging for me to get to the top 500 sometimes, this one was one of the easiest coz I have units, but I was just too lazy. Otherwise it's rough

If you dont have nc red and gladion u r basically doomed

[unique abyss]

2k or not, you will get 3k title

[old valve]

True

[brazen escarp]

should i 3/5 bp valerie and buy and 3/5 bp barry?

(using candies)

[cloud timber]

no reason to invest in bp valerie right now

[brazen escarp]

is the super sparring over?

[cloud timber]

but 3/5 bp barry is a pretty important building block for every dc team

[brazen escarp]

even if i have elio/melony?

[vagrant ivy]

yes

[brazen escarp]

bruhhhh

i got only like 100k

[vagrant ivy]

still surprised that I’m the only person in here desperate enough to use BP Candice

[brazen escarp]

i wanted to do a few more runs but forgot

:(

[vagrant ivy]

💀

[cloud timber]

xd

[brazen escarp]

oh welp

its alright ig

last super sparring i atleast got 200-300k

this one i got like 150k

i got like 30k in fairy and ice

oh welp

definitely shouldnt have procrastinated

[brazen escarp]

what if i already have someone like elio/ melony

[cloud timber]

still

[brazen escarp]

what purpose tho?

isnt sing spam faster

[vernal condor]

Sometimes you won't have enough space to fit someone with a status other than sleep to enable the spam

[brazen escarp]

oh

ok

also what units in the 4* bp are worth buying

[cloud timber]

usually these days it's if you have a good damage enhancer that doesn't set para

[brazen escarp]

i currently have valerie and surge

[cloud timber]

janine also ends up being relevant sometimes here

evasion and status and other buffs

[brazen escarp]

bp janine?

[cloud timber]

correct

similar to regular janine but she only buffs team speed

[brazen escarp]

alr

[cursive linden]

.......

Fine I'll use NC Serena

[pallid girder]

His sync multuplier is at 3/5, so what do you expect at 2/5 lol.

[royal jolt]

Akari gaming

[cursive linden]

Too much RNG, I'll wait for Bug 3v1 instead

[warped gulch]

Well uh

I tried dps with him

[royal jolt]

It do be like that

[vernal condor]

not bad

but full sync prob gets more lol

[warped gulch]

Rn it is horrible

Bc of his passive

[cursive linden]

OH NVM IT WORKS AHAHAHAHAH

[royal jolt]

Nice!

[cursive linden]

I didnt get to 4th sync so i just spam brutal swing after 3rd

[pallid girder]

Acc debuff is kinda important afaik.

[cursive linden]

I won't do any further

[brazen escarp]

what passive?

[warped gulch]

[cursive linden]

Oh what the fuck

[warped gulch]

Imagine i have 10/5 Eri

[brazen escarp]

what is her SA?

gahdamn

might have to consider exing giacomo

but just doing it for DC is well

[still hearth]

Feel like I could get higher

[warped gulch]

I missed click and use his B Move at 8 Sync Move Up Next

[pallid girder]

1/5 dont just do sync spam.
You need bmove every sync cycle iirc.

[still hearth]

I am

Just messed up a bit because I forgot MC Dark wish is located on the bottom right instead of the top right like most Wish Zone pairs

[safe prawn]

What was the best team for that? I remember ncblue/marnie/sscyrus?

[cloud timber]

i think it was that

someone else will know more for sure

[cursive linden]

WHAT THE FUCK DUDE

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!!?!!??

[warped gulch]

2 B Move + 1 Sync

[cursive linden]

😭

[vagrant ivy]

still worse than nc Marnie

[warped gulch]

That team can go higher with ….. 10/5 Eri

And better gears

[brazen escarp]

in 3 moves?

[vernal condor]

Bleh

[cloud timber]

going too fast to have zone up for the whole fight so i needed to have larry sync

[vernal condor]

lol

also have the same issue with red and serena

i have too much accel and her 1st sync lacks seun and a rebuff

[vagrant ivy]

this is so ass

lodge cheren is still better

oh well

[vapid kernel]

Eri

[vapid kernel]

Whys the last sync with Steven

[vagrant ivy]

probs misclick

[cloud timber]

needs to preserve symun for b move

[warped gulch]

Yeah

That 10 SyMUN is way more important

[rapid sparrow]

Whats best dark teams

Why is Marnie not that great

[warped gulch]

This is with Giacomo Sync

This is with Steven Sync

[crude sandal]

Brycen-Man is still better or someone else?

[royal jolt]

Thank the gods they gave Akari Soften Up 1 at 4/5

[rancid meadow]

Wouldn't that be better with dark zone?

[pallid girder]

Wow Giocomo is definately gonna outdo NC Marnie even with his reactive passive.

At 5/5 or above tho.

[warped gulch]

Why Dark Zone is better and who it swap with ?

Eri gives Circle and PMUN

Steven debuff Def, SEUN and PMUN later

[sacred badger]

Hmm i could probably still sync 1 more time htm

and hit 1.2m 😮

2m rather

[vapid kernel]

First try hm

[pallid girder]

Brycen man is never better. His bmove takes ages and his multiplier is low for a tech striker.

[royal jolt]

I just realized that Akari has a Dark Zone sync multiplier

Not Dark DF

I wasted a bit of time setting it lmao

[pseudo stag]

I didn't even know there was a dark df

[long silo]

I'm trying Bianca/Colress/Akari, but gauge is not enough

And no space for Umbral Acceleration even at +10E

[warped gulch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EweMDrOdxgM?si=tLTNpVj56-Mxf5VH

[long silo]

You are so back

[royal jolt]

She sets it on Ceasless Edge

[crude sandal]

Karen can get 1M here right?

[royal jolt]

I hope so
I gave it my best shot earlier and came away with this

All syncs crit, too

I think Blue can be replaced with someone else

Maybe Red?

I just need Barey there for constant full gauges

[pseudo stag]

That's only 20k more than the f2p karen team in the spreadsheet

[royal jolt]

😭

I'll maybe give it another go in a bit
I'm setting up that sync pair tracker

Not bad

[cloud timber]

rosa over blue for sing spam then use stun spore to return to full gauge by sync

can also do melony but she's getting in way less sings with her speed stat

or just do nc blue + elio

won't be much wait to be at full gauge with that

with full speed buffs

[vapid kernel]

Maybe try dc marnie instead of nc blue idk

[royal jolt]

We'll try again in a bit!
Now that I've finished the Pasio Subway battles, I can return my focus to DC

[fluid anvil]

last sync with steven is better than syncing with Giacomo?

[warped gulch]

Yeah

Bc you lost 5 SyMUN

[fluid anvil]

Its not better to use the B-move right before the last sync and then sync with Gia?

[warped gulch]

Time

Not enough time to do that

Bc i need to build PMUN again too

[vapid kernel]

Giacomo officially dethrones Marnie

[fluid anvil]

how do you know if the top 1 result is Marnie or Gia ?

[royal jolt]

Gah, so close to 1.5M

[plush palm]

missed a sync crit

1.5m+ is doable

[misty forge]

Got 2.2 Marnie first try and dipped, is her peak around 2.8/9? Because I ended around 12 seconds from sync which was very awkward

And one extra sync would be around 2.65

Probs 2.7 actually

[fluid anvil]

she was ~3,5M+ on first rotation

[royal jolt]

I should try running my 2/5 Champion Marnie again

I think I got like 1.2M

[cunning rock]

That took way longer than it needed to be

[fiery rose]

I got 1.4m this time

Now I have a serious question

Are any of the DC pairs worth 3/5

[cunning rock]

I 3/5 Wally because he has access to atk, def, sp. atk, and sp def debuffs but he's ST

[fiery rose]

Tbh I do need a good st dragon

My ST Dragon runs use Zerena

[long silo]

This was my previous record. I'll try different team

[fiery rose]

The alternative being uh

Lisia or 1/5 Drasna

[cunning rock]

Oh, and he's built around Para so you can afford to run Dragon Zone or something with a sing spammer

[pallid girder]

Ryuki or Drasna from genpool are better.

[fiery rose]

Drasna, I don't have the copies

Ryuki is probably a shout

[royal jolt]

2M with Akari? Did you use her 5/5 tiles?

[long silo]

Yes. +10E

[royal jolt]

Aww

[fiery rose]

But also I have 1700 tickets and everyone 1/5 so I feel like I should use some

So are any of the DC pairs good for anything, DC or otherwise?

[royal jolt]

I'm slowly getting everyone to 3/5 because it just means more bodies for LG

[long silo]

Actually I think Akari only needs 4/5, but you'd have to sacrifice Soften Up

Getting Soften Up requires +9

[royal jolt]

I'd imagine, yeah
I want Fierce Entry 2

[fiery rose]

If not I'll just do Hugh and Silver

[long silo]

Ye I picked FE2 too

[cunning rock]

DC Tierno is notable by having Sunny Day MPR but he's Fire so the type is bloated.

DC Cheren might be hilariously good in ST Dark DC since he's built around Evasion. Has Brainpower as another nuking tile.

[royal jolt]

I can always 5/5 her, though
I've got one Field candy I've been holding on to because it just doesn't feel right to use it on anyone

[pallid girder]

I like DC Gladion better. A rare tank in sprint or field category. Super helpful in br.
Also Rock/ice hse is close.

[royal jolt]

I like DC Silver because he was incredibly funny at Level 1, 3/5 6*EX

[long silo]

I have DC Silver at EX for Cheren lol

[royal jolt]

Same

[long silo]

also occasional duo with Ethan

[royal jolt]

My triple flying actually has 1/5 DC Silver

I just forgot that CS gives EXP one day...

😔

[vapid kernel]

All Marnie users please do better than this

[royal jolt]

What was the logic here? 😭😭😭😭

What is Petey doing? 😭

[fiery rose]

Passive boosting

Petey and Eve are Galar

[royal jolt]

It probably wasn't worth it

[cloud timber]

melony tho

[vast glade]

Used candies on Marnie just so I could use special strat over relying on Akari. I can work with that.

Man, if only Xmas Lillie was out already

This mode will make me pull her day one, I guess

[cunning rock]

SAME. I'm already thinking how good HLillie would be here

[royal jolt]

She's got my interest, for sure

[cunning rock]

She shall save me by getting 1M ST Fairy DC

ST Bug tho

[azure vine]

I got 400 something thousand with 1/5 akari melony and colress (3/5), but even though its single target, I was wondering if 3/5 nc serena is better here?

[vast glade]

I missed the thread but did you manage to save your account? I am so happy

[glossy atlas]

I lost around 150k-200k with crits but not trying again

[misty forge]

I just ran soften up

And got same score

What grid did you run

[glossy atlas]

No soften up

Which means i dont always crit

So i missed 4 crits on the last 2 syncs

2 on each one

[misty forge]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/24503/14601?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBhcaGx8iKCstLi8

I went with this

[glossy atlas]

I dont wanna fish for more mprs

I went for only one

Enough for me

I didn't even care abt rosa's b move buff

+4 eva

Got some para procs

[azure vine]

So close

[glossy atlas]

You dont need colress you know

[azure vine]

Impressive how 3/5 nc serena does better than Akari exr

[azure vine]

who am I gonna use for para?

[glossy atlas]

Red

[azure vine]

I don’t have redlax

[misty forge]

BP Barry works

[azure vine]

…

[glossy atlas]

You have holiday Jasmine?

[azure vine]

what’s the advantage of using him over colress?

[glossy atlas]

Its kind of the same

[misty forge]

You spam sing more

[glossy atlas]

Support Sync buff

[azure vine]

I’ll try

[azure vine]

But I won’t sync with 2 supports

Usually only 1

[glossy atlas]

You synced how many times? You have R i believe?

[glossy atlas]

Its better to do both even with exr

[misty forge]

I think I did 4 Marnie syncs

Maybe 5 actually

[glossy atlas]

No way Its 4

[misty forge]

Idr

First one was around 1.25 left so yeah 5 probably

[glossy atlas]

I did 4 with sp up next

And the b move

[glossy atlas]

With EXR on Marnie?

[azure vine]

Eh I got 800k

Not bad

Don’t think I can improve anymore unless I had nc blue

That would make my life much easier

[vagrant ivy]

last rotation

the same team with melony did 430k

DC blue just won’t cut it without EX or 3/5

even then it’s sus on teams that aren’t full kanto

before you ask I did hit every crit and drop spdef to -6

[cloud timber]

if it happens to net you one less sync then yea it's not worth it

3/5 or ex wouldn't change much, you get befuddle which doesn't matter if you're going to drop to -6 with double drops

maybe ex stats' speed matters

adds 40 speed and lv 150 adds 19

[acoustic chasm]

YOU'RE ALIVE?

[worldly tapir]

Do you guys think 3/5 N zoroark is still a good striker?

Especially for dc

[olive wraith]

CS2,Marnie no cake

[torpid wigeon]

Wtf i got rank 7 with blue marnie cyrus I'm guessing that'll go down a lot lol

[vagrant ivy]

an improvement is still an improvement

still gonna be stuck with him for the foreseeable future until daily scout gives me nc Marnie or something

[vapid kernel]

Omg how please teach

[torpid wigeon]

I'd get another 100-200k free if i had 3/5 cyrus but oh well

[olive wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga5eG_yg1Bk

[vapid kernel]

My dark voids arent so fast wtf

I wonder what im doing wrong

Theres a 10 second gap

My first Marnie sync was at 1:01 and yours was at 1:08

So i hv one less sync than yours

[olive wraith]

more miss

[golden isle]

Had 1 second to get to 1 million.

[vapid kernel]

Ok this is the max i can do

[vapid kernel]

5/5 Brycen Man

With exr i think he can do more than N

[golden isle]

Wait really?

[vapid kernel]

His exr is strike

[golden isle]

I might try that

[vapid kernel]

If he can get 3 syncs using DC Marnie and BP Barry as teammates,

Then he will have 2M score

If he can get 4 syncs, then its 3M

[golden isle]

Dang, then ya I’m doing that.

[vapid kernel]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=024500056000&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=&v1=030100057100&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFCxUYHB8hIyUpLC4v&v2=009900040700&s2=5&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgcICw0QExQaGxwdHiEkJig

Hi Pykuo

[vapid kernel]

Wow you got 3M

Is your Marnie 5/5?

[torpid wigeon]

Just shy of it but yeah

No 3/5 blue 3/5 marnie 1/5 cyrus

[vapid kernel]

Oh howww

[torpid wigeon]

I do have a bit of skill gear but not insane

[vapid kernel]

Leme try my blue cyrus team again

[torpid wigeon]

Basically just spamming dark void after each marnie sync and using b move once i run out of gauge - since i don't have extension i had to use the first zone after the first marnie sync which was -100k damage

And i had to try a couple of times because of no umbral accel too

I would try it again and record it but idk if i wanna make a yt just for that

[warped gulch]

I LIVED

[misty forge]

Did support get through to you then?

[azure vine]

improved it even more

[warped gulch]

Yes

[azure vine]

Crazy how Akari only got 400k despite having strike exr

[vapid kernel]

3/5 doesnt give extension

[torpid wigeon]

Oh yeah i forgot the video i watched they had 5/5

Mb

[misty forge]

Did Rosa Stan also get it? I hope so

Anyway congrats

[warped gulch]

He got way before me btw

[misty forge]

Nice to still have you

[misty forge]

Then who was the other 'nam player that had trouble

[warped gulch]

Idk tbh

My group has Fungi-Gakon-Me-Rosa

And all safe

[vernal condor]

Pykuo, idk how giacomo works so, if you have SyMUN and sync with him, can you quad into his b move before it gets locked ?

[warped gulch]

You cant sadly

[vernal condor]

[warped gulch]

After the you Sync the B Move lock immediately

Unless grid +5 SyMUN after Sync

Then it’ll unlock again ofc

[vernal condor]

Oh yeah I just learned a way to watch a short as a regular youtube video
just replace the "short/" part of the url by "watch?v="

[true locust]

You focus on get one more sync. I did diffrent way

But one run mess up🤣 could be better score

[vapid kernel]

@rain copper congrats

[rain copper]

thanks

[vagrant ivy]

the vietnamese POMA squad

[true locust]

I did whit super up next less one sync less but damage is better and less rng need

[vapid kernel]

I shall try

But i would need to sacrifice Soften Up

I think

[fallen trail]

is c marnie/ss cyrus/chase the peak?

[vapid kernel]

Nc blues better

[warped gulch]

But ngl, it still sucks when automatic change to short

[fallen trail]

really?

i thought his gauge would be worse

[vernal condor]

chase should be better

just from the circle

[fallen trail]

am getting mixed signals here

[warped gulch]

Well Blue can insta para 3 enemy

While Chase slowly para one by one

[vernal condor]

I like to tshock mid and gengar and let slowbro earthquake

That's what I did at least

[fallen trail]

resetting for triple para from blue discharge

[vagrant ivy]

it could like, miss

[warped gulch]

So lucky that used Giacomo so no need to deal with it

[vagrant ivy]

in that regard i consider nc blue more reliable as he's more active in paralyzing the enemy

while chase has to wait for them to hit

unless you thunder shock 3 times which is a major time loss

[fallen trail]

oh i guess giacomo is prob better

[warped gulch]

Idk

[vagrant ivy]

and he can also triple flinch, you never know

[warped gulch]

He just has really low rng

Bc he sure crit already

Also no rng from thing like dodge or Para so just plat rotation for me

[vapid kernel]

Chase can also heal Marnie to 100%

Which sucks

[true locust]

My marnie have sure crit too

She 10E

No rng need😄

When use marnie super up next have just 3 sync so also no rng

Chase is better for gauge nc blue in end is realy bad gauge

[warped gulch]

Ty gears

[copper otter]

Pykuo, how is your alt stacked already?

[warped gulch]

The 10/5 Nemona and Volo one ?

It had 5/5 them before

[copper otter]

oh

[warped gulch]

And it swum in Sprint/Field candy anyway

[copper otter]

hmmmm. I'm kind of conflicted rn.... I have no answer for dark types...

Like i do have Dark NC Serena

but.....

[warped gulch]

I think i saw 1/5 Marnie got 1m

[copper otter]

i'm looking at brycenman atm.

tech with strike EXR

[warped gulch]

Wait, do you know i’m using my main rn ?

[copper otter]

WAIT WHAT

[warped gulch]

I changed my name

[copper otter]

YOU WERE ABLE TO TRANSFER?

[warped gulch]

Yeah

[copper otter]

[warped gulch]

That why I LIVED

[true locust]

Marnie best gurl:)

[copper otter]

so question, is candying Akari or Brycenman better for dark 3v1/3v3?

I do have CMarnie, but she'll only be good for 3v3s

[true locust]

3 vs 1 best dark is serena

[copper otter]

wait really? not even Brycenman?

[true locust]

No

She is tech sup

Serena

All off then are strikers

[copper otter]

well I'm also looking into 3 v 3s too

not just 3 v 1s

[true locust]

Then nc marnie the best

Brycen man suks badly

Akari is way better

[copper otter]

hmmm.

I can candy her to 3/5

just gotta wait to Sunday

[nova remnant]

1/5?

[azure vine]

yeah 1/5 akari

but 3/5 nc serena

[nova remnant]

yeah makes sense

idt dark zone 50% is carrying at 1/5 + you can still miss crit

[azure vine]

I would use her if she had some sort of status condition

like para or burn