#Damage Challenge

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cursive linden
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Yeah, i am not doing an RNG run

icy pendant
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you have 1m there if you just click the B move

vernal condor
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Bro is throwing

icy pendant
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even without SEUN it should be doing about 300k

misty forge
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Yeah, +4 pmun in sand & zone

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It's 330k circa

icy pendant
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mine was 500k at +8 SEUN

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or at least I think I was +8 and in zone, Sand Blaster 4 didn’t amplify its damage either

cursive linden
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I already did 1.3M

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This shit requires at least 2 para

misty forge
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With Bianca you just need 2 flinches at start for 1.5mil

vagrant ivy
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has anyone did 1m with 2/5 or less

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on arc

cursive linden
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Just

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JUST 2 FLINCHES

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***JUST 2 FLINCHES!!!!! ***

misty forge
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2 50/50

cursive linden
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Yeah fuck that

misty forge
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It takes me 20 tries to get a single mpr

cursive linden
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If an RNG says it's not 100%, then it is 10%

cursive linden
misty forge
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It's just 75% fail

cursive linden
misty forge
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DC is literally cringe because anything past asking 1 mpr is just a jobber's predicament

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Same for gauntlet

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Difference is, gauntlet also requires to clear dozens of times

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Not 1

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I usually do max 3 score reaches on DC, most times it's 5-10 mins of time but sometimes I have to waste 30-40 mins like today because the requirements are stupid, thankfully it's a 1/5 ratio

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So it's not too bad

vapid kernel
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But Misty can do more than him

pallid girder
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Some units just have bad kit in dc. You cant say Bertha or FRoxanne are bad units just bc they cant do well in dc either.

dense gate
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Hugh really consistently getting those acid special defense drops. Got down to -4 special defense one time

fallen trail
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ohh thats why this stage sucks he has a 1 bar move GeetaTired

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send help pls

fallen trail
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i think this is the best a 2/5 arc cynthia can do with 1 mpr… i don’t think a second mpr would get her over a million

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well… i might have to do this

fluid anvil
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so is the best 3v1 AS Cynthia team with NC blue-Melony or with NC Bianca?

vernal orbit
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I got 1.4m with bianca and barry

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no skill gear

misty forge
woven fjord
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Finally did it

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Sync order:
Rosa -> Red -> Cynthia (x2)

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Thankfully, her B-move did over 500K damage.

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No need for MPR procs.

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Tried with Courtney but she at best can only come like 20K shy of 1M.

fluid anvil
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first try

icy pendant
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ooh 4 Cynthia syncs

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good para procs then?

fluid anvil
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yeah think I had at least 1

vernal condor
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https://youtu.be/Mzm7SrI_g8A for people interested

I was wondering if Maxie could get 1m by going full DPS, so I tried this team and it worked. This is my first time going full DPS mode in a DC too and I must say, it's refreshing. I still like the classic spam format but full DPS is also nice. But that also means he should be able to get around 1.4~1.5m in 3v3, which isn't a lot compared to othe...

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icy pendant
# fluid anvil yeah think I had at least 1

got one outside of sand and came up a few turns myself, had to throw a B move with < 2 sec left to use up some of the TM effects. I’ll probably move to the Bianca Colress team unfortunately

vapid kernel
icy pendant
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kinda weird to think that there are both land-based (Sand) and water-based (Hail) field effects that are bad in DC

vapid kernel
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Dena shud give all opponents snow shelter

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And sand shelter

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And Poisoned: No Damage

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He sucks

vernal condor
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shocking

vapid kernel
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SHES WORSE OMG

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3/5 roxanners pls go 1M

cloud timber
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when bertha gets 300k that's expected really

orchid crescent
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finally got the ideal arc cynthia run lmao

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yippee

vapid kernel
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Shes better than Clay yalls

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I missed 3 crits

orchid crescent
cloud timber
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sleep does help when you're putting up with sand the whole fight and trap

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5 total syncs

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but +4 attack lol

summer shadow
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I dont get it LarryDead

cloud timber
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put sand only up before second sync

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removing infliction freebie helps

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most common mistakes

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also are you even spamming thunder wave

copper otter
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1/5 moment

summer shadow
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Wait what

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I need to remove freebie?

copper otter
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I would assume due to the fact that sandstorm with cynthia massively increases gauge speed, i guess freebie is not needed?

summer shadow
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Of course im spamming thunder wave

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He just interrupts so much with acid

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And each time cynthia syncs theres a whole animation

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How many times is she supposed to sync anyway

icy pendant
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Remove the 4/5 and 5/5 tiles for DC

copper otter
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....again....

cloud timber
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bianca provides enough gauge to not use infliction freebie

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it's slower to use it

copper otter
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oh wait, that's 5/5 LarryDead

icy pendant
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yeah Arc Cynthia only needs 3/5, the 4/5 tile even is too much timeloss to be practically worth it and the 5/5 tile is even worse

cloud timber
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sand also gives time for gauge to recover yeah but it's been usable without that

summer shadow
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Alright, thanks bbchyuLove

wooden tree
orchid crescent
acoustic chasm
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Who are y'all running with Courtney? Last time I tried holiday Jasmine + Colress and only got 900k

cloud timber
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elio + redlax for me, bp barry with sc steven could still be better but i wouldn't be able to check

acoustic chasm
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I don't have either redlax or steven WEEZing

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I do have 1/5 arc cynthia tho

cloud timber
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can run h jasmine in place of red but you're settling for one less sync

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i'm not sure if anyone's managed to do anything with 1/5 arc cynthia

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in theory she should be good with courtney and bp barry but idk why we haven't seen that

acoustic chasm
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I'll try jasmine colress again and then cynthia bp barry

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I tried Elio btw but the RNG needed drives me insane

cloud timber
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pushing 1m with elio and h jasmine would be miserable if at all possible yea

acoustic chasm
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4 courtney syncs needs no sp.def drops, the right amount of propelling move procs, AND the syncs have to crit

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AND I need jasmine MPR

fluid anvil
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2FSnCT3Jo
video of Colress being used without Charging Infliction
+5 speed, +5 evasion, sands of time 2
total managed 5 syncs (4 Cynthia syncs), thats with sand and Cynthia animation slowdowns and attacking 5 times with Bianca and using circle
while MGA was running - gauge was enough to spam 2 bar, without MGA - not sustainable infinitely, but manageable

This makes me think that the S.Gardenia + SS Ingo + SSRC should reach 6 total syncs relatively easily, as they have less set-up, no sand chip, no Bianca attacking 5 times, no manual weather + zone, no slow Cynthia TMs etc.
and SS Ingo can get -6 sync count for free, thats 2/3 of a sync cycle
maybe even 7 total syncs (copium)
Also Gardenia has ghost accel 3 vs Cynthias SoT2, so a bit better. And you can reach +6 speed instead of +5

5-6 fully set-up SSRC syncs (-6 spdef, -2 def) is kinda nuts, it should be a big boost to the current max score (as long as all crits lol)

Arc Cynthia, NC Bianca, Colress
2 TM MPRs needed from Arc Cynthia.

Grids, lucky skills, and skill gears at the end of the video. Pomatools link in comment. (sort by newest)
Skill Gear: 95 Att, 24% sync, +30 speed on Arc Cynthia and Colress

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acoustic chasm
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rip...

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Maxie DPS with Courtney sync was able to 1M, can't arc cynthia do the same?

vapid kernel
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Well

cloud timber
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mael did 1m with dps but i forgot the team, had bianca on it

acoustic chasm
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I have Bianca

vapid kernel
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Bianca makes a big difference ya

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The defense debuffs

acoustic chasm
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Gonna try that

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Although she'll need Sand Shelter WEEZing

vapid kernel
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But remember its faster to spam Precipice than b move

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So idk how it comes down

cloud timber
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I was wondering if Maxie could get 1m by going full DPS, so I tried this team and it worked. This is my first time going full DPS mode in a DC too and I must say, it's refreshing. I still like the classic spam format but full DPS is also nice. But that also means he should be able to get around 1.4~1.5m in 3v3, which isn't a lot compared to othe...

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kindred summit
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Wonder how I can get 1 mil with Arc Cy this this DC

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I have HS1 for both Red and Steven

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I only gotten 800K

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And I took of the dust kicker sync node also

brisk shale
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Status move fail spam

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Also everyone on that team has supper effective up

kindred summit
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I don’t know who to replace with Steven

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Since I do have Colress he doesn’t get me to 1 mil

clever wasp
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Just did the same exact thing as the battle was on video and ended up with 600k less

clever wasp
orchid crescent
clever wasp
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I did 4 and couldnt reach close

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How on earth did you get 700k more on one less sync?

orchid crescent
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i'll upload the clear in a couple minutes

clever wasp
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K thanks

cloud timber
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elio is even faster if you reset for para on red

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60% with hostile environment 1 on body slam

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also apparently the 4/5 tile is bad too

icy pendant
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you'd think 4/5 is fine but it ends up being a couple seconds of timeloss throughout, so it's doable to run with great para rng

brazen escarp
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Hmmm 🤔

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But why am I getting so little Dmg?

normal parcel
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Because you have low level units

orchid crescent
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here you go

normal parcel
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95% of the < 3/5 damage dealers are just bad in DC

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Ex, and 3/5+ are basically mandatory for a decent score (unless the unit is busted for DC, like SS gladion), and you definitely want lv150 or at very least lv140

fallen trail
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thx @vernal condor

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only stage i have left that's below a million is st fairy

kindred summit
icy pendant
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you're doing something horribly wrong then. can you record?

kindred summit
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Oh maybe I have the 4/5 grids on

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Let me try again then

acoustic chasm
icy pendant
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4/5 grid tile should be the difference between 1m and 1.5m, not between 500k and 1.5m

fallen trail
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courtney nuke team just wasnt working for me

fallen trail
kindred summit
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These are my grid but I will try it with these

fallen trail
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its not very likely

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i'll try it a few more times

kindred summit
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I don’t have nitro to upload it rip

cloud timber
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uploading to youtube is standard, you can unlist it if you want

kindred summit
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Oh okay that helps

clever wasp
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Unlisted on yt is what I did

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Although now I'm beginning to think my skill gear isn't strong enough to hit the score I'm trying to

kindred summit
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I don’t mind uploading to my YouTube I don’t get much people looking anyways only thing on it is Smash Ultimate

acoustic chasm
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SO CLOSE

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I don't know what to do anymore lol

fallen trail
acoustic chasm
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I don't

fallen trail
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rip

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i needed him

icy pendant
orchid crescent
icy pendant
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your red tm timing is also wrong, it should be the last action before each of your syncs not the first attack after one

warped gulch
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I think you can use Elio instead of Colress

kindred summit
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Well I want the reset the ground zone and sandstorm

fluid anvil
icy pendant
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you reset it after 20 seconds of the first sandstorm

kindred summit
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And also the arm timing is just because I don’t know how much it reduces sync

icy pendant
clever wasp
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Can what's in the gear(not counting stats) be the difference between about 700k in one of these?

icy pendant
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yes because of this crazy thing called +45% sync damage

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realistically it's much harder to have that gear, so it's important to keep those standards in mind

orchid crescent
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yeah the very top clears always have that optimized skill gear multipliers lmao

clever wasp
warped gulch
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I dont think gears matter much unless you aim for 2.5 -> 3 m

clever wasp
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Like I've got 1.5M and the one with the same everything is 2.1M

kindred summit
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I am just using basic gear

warped gulch
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This is my gears

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I cant even reach 100 Atk but still got 2m anyway

clever wasp
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Yeah idk what's wrong

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1.5M with Bianca and 4 Cynthia syncs followed by her b move

kindred summit
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Doing better then me

brazen escarp
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When most of the time there are no Dmg tiles

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And how much difference is there in stats of 100 and 140/150

cunning rock
kindred summit
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Getting there

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I fixed my score

dry whale
kindred summit
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Just didn’t need sand tomb and changed to Arc Cynthia special gear

still hearth
cunning rock
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Gah, so close.

cunning rock
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Got it! Thanks @vernal condor

queen moth
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I'm at a 3/5 arc Cynthia with 500k with redlax/Colress. I'm convinced I'm doing something wrong. Any advice? I don't have NC Bianca.

cloud timber
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don't set sand until cynthia's second sync

glossy token
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thanks arc cyn

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can prob improve bc i got 2 paras and 0 misses but

sacred badger
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Finally got to 1mil

true locust
normal parcel
# brazen escarp When most of the time there are no Dmg tiles

Because in DC except in some cases the way to go is sync damage, and basically every unit in the game has sync multipliers locked at 3/5+ (and also +50 sync damage from the sync tiles that everyone has at 3/5), some units are fine at 1/5 for DPS, but basically no one nukes decently at 1/5 and you definitely want 6ex, plus the difference between lb 100 and lvl 150 should be like +50% stats, so you are much faster (for sing spam) and you do way more damage, plus sync spam is pointless if you go for DPS, or if your sync has no multipliers

brazen escarp
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Hmm alr

vernal condor
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wtffff

vapid kernel
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I can submit some groind stuff symbolically

sacred badger
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2.6m lmao

tiny mist
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how is ur 3rd sync kf the run, 2nd one with cynthia doing 600k

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what gear do u have

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mine is doing 300k only

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I have almost dame grid

true locust
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My sync is 700k second🤣

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So 300k is realy low

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You need have sand blaster 4 lucky skill have sand on and cynthia tm

brazen escarp
tiny mist
true locust
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Need use sand blaster 4

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For more sync damage but even you sure do something wrong since 300k its too low .

tiny mist
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yeah still 300k

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I have exact damage buffs as this guy

true locust
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This is when i use ground gear

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60 attack

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But you need use cynthia tm

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No tm will be 300k

tiny mist
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and i have special gear almost +7% sync buffs from that too

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still max i did was 380k

true locust
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Wat attack you have?

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Wat i can tell record it and put o yt

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So we can check wat is going on

tiny mist
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I m doing everything exactly like him

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same grid n all

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only diff is cynthia is 149 level not 150

hard sleet
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That 1 lvl won’t change much

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In the grand scheme of things

true locust
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Only ww3 vs sand blast make diffrence

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As lucky skill

jaunty stratus
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Is 1m reachable with courtney?

cunning rock
jaunty stratus
vernal condor
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As usual CheckThePins lol

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At this rate I'll ask for a "check the doc" emote

vapid kernel
vernal condor
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Or Maxie and Bianca TabithaHehe

ivory kestrel
fallen trail
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with a LOT of dodges and propulsion i think you might be able to get another sync w courtney and with super syncer it’d be pretty strong

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but i don’t think i’m strong enough for that

vapid kernel
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Shes good

cursive linden
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Naomi EX soon™️

vapid kernel
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Ya she ex and get 900K

misty forge
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Aside grookey

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And gyarados

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And all the sleepers

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And perrserker

fluid anvil
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holy based

vapid kernel
pallid girder
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Using a pair that can do 3M on her own to help other do barely 1M SophoKEK

fluid anvil
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look again, 1/5 (and not even EX) Arc cannot do 3M

copper otter
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Chat, what type has the highest damage potential right now. Is it psychic?

vagrant ivy
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until more PF units get SA it’s still gonna be ground by a long shot

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though people weren’t optimizing their gears for this mode in the first rotation so who knows

copper otter
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Psychic got 6 mil tho

vagrant ivy
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opp paralysis: S-moves up 5% my beloved

copper otter
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From 3 v 3

vagrant ivy
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I saw

copper otter
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What would ground get for 3 v 3?

vagrant ivy
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yes SA for him would mean 7 to 8m but that stage doesn’t rerun until late next February

vagrant ivy
copper otter
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I'm cooked if we get ground for DC again then

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What is this month's Ranked again?

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I know they're eevees

cunning rock
long silo
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Fleur Cannon PoryWoke

copper otter
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Oh cool, either have adaman or rip top 100

long silo
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I'm using Erika for it

copper otter
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AoE though will be NC Red so lol

long silo
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Even if I get Adaman who's releasing on same day, I doubt I can 3/5

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Because I still need Irida

copper otter
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I have everyone need EXCEPT Adaman

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although i might have to finally 3/5 Penny PrycePain

vagrant ivy
copper otter
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Oh that's bull 💀

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Just make Penny a sprint unit. o ok

long silo
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I think the passive procs every hit

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So like, it evens out SophoKEK

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DeNA has the opportunity tho to do the funniest thing and give Wally Adrenaline 3

cloud timber
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yeah it's bad enough to where dc people are actively avoiding her 10/5

copper otter
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?????? toxic???? LMAO

cloud timber
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he's super jank yea

copper otter
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i never bothered to look at the eeveeloutions

cloud timber
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he lowers his own speed too

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calem and hilda do too but they compensate better

long silo
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What did people use on Grass 3v1 for Erika

copper otter
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Adaman

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oh wait lmao

long silo
copper otter
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uhhhh SC Steven and i believe colress

long silo
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I was using Mix Red on the regular one, but the nerfed DPS means I can't make the final B-Move work

copper otter
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Wait, what's Ice and Fairy rules?

long silo
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I'm thinking I try Dahlia/Redlax but I'm curious about the regular run

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Ice is Special only

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Fairy no rules

copper otter
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Grass: DPS Nerfed
Ice: Special only
Fairy: unga bunga.

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got it

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ooooooh wait....

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the Ice rule screwed F2P players PrycePain

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rip Hala

vagrant ivy
long silo
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There's really that one ranked DC where f2p is screwed

cunning rock
long silo
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You reminded me

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Before I go unga bunga with Gladion, I'd go 1m with Penny first SophoKEK

copper otter
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i probably won't go too tryhard this month unless the title is completely new

long silo
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Brainpower go boom

copper otter
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top 100 super sparring is fine with me ElesaJustRight

cunning rock
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Time to whip out this team again

long silo
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What does Acerola do there

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Also I'll try Dahlia and Redlax

cunning rock
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Paralyze + Max out Atk/Crit + Speed boost + self evasion

long silo
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Ooh

cunning rock
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Also Lodge Acerola has Stop hitting yourself and I'm Teeter Dance spamming

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It's very RNG but you can nope so many of Nemona's attacks for you to get an extra sync in

copper otter
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guys.... imma be honest with ya.

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i think Sina might be the best for this month's DC

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just saying..... ColressLook

cunning rock
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10/5 + Self Evasion

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Yeah I can see it TabithaHehe

copper otter
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also soften up

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so like..... LucasFLOOSHED

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yea no, sprint AND Striker??? Yea, Sina is the new ice Meta

cunning rock
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The best part is that she doesn't require Hail in the slightest

copper otter
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so hypothetically.... NC Red/Sina.....uh.....

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unironically SS Lear?

warped gulch
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Bc we’ll use her with Gladion (dps route)

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So Adrenaline 3 just way better with him

pallid girder
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Tbf NC Red's best team alr utilize evasion (Chase), and he still has high sync dmg outside hail.

cloud timber
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yea she doesn't seem to contribute anything, just be a worse damage dealer than nc red

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i'd doubt she'd be relevant at top

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evasion without chase's reactive passive but misses out on support ex and para and gauge

delicate junco
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I thought this DC would be a walk in the park

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but with a 3/5 arc cynth i havent pierced 1 mil once 😭

cunning rock
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As long as it's ST DC, you definitely have to work to hit 1M

vagrant ivy
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unless...?

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how many pure f2p ST 1m clears were there

cloud timber
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psychic and steel only

long silo
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Oh Ground didn't make it?

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And Grass?

cunning rock
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SS Erika honestly needs GT.

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And Courtney can't hit 1M even with Ground Zone

long silo
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RIP

cloud timber
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courtney needs sc steven or redlax or arc cynthia prob

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unless you're doing the dps with maxie and bianca

pallid girder
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Rock also.

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Need DC Nemona tho.

sacred badger
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letse

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tomorrow is multi huh

cloud timber
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yea that one takes 3/5 ex dc nemona but does qualify

fluid anvil
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SS Ingo evasion speed clears gonna go hard tomorrow

sacred badger
devout pelican
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I think I am too stupid to figure out how to use AS Cynthia to clear this DC WEEZing

sacred badger
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letsee.

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ooh its ghost.

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so if i clear the next few sparring fights, that's 300 + 70/80 + 100 + 70/80 + 100 + 100 + 540 = 1300 when December starts.

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so i can 3/5 the new one, or buy the new one, then 3/5 one of the current ones mmhmm

pseudo stag
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At the current rate of power creep, how many years until we get the first 1 billion DC?

cunning rock
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Until we get 2 or 3 10/5s

sacred badger
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or like another damage change, 999999 wont be the limit

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we'd need like 999,999,999 limit at that point.

cunning rock
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Shocked that you rushed Tierno immediately

sacred badger
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he's actually extremely good o_o

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i need more options for rally

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fire upgrade is solid considering my roster

pseudo stag
pallid girder
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I mean Arc Cynthia is really close dmg wise but only hold back by sandstorm.

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She syncs less than other dmg dealers but still deals more score than them.

vernal condor
sacred badger
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when you 1st sync with her, dont use sandstorm.

pallid girder
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Im replying about the one said "how many years will we get 1 billion"
If ArcCynthia doesnt have sandstorm and can sync 1 more maybe she can reach it .

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In 3v3

vernal condor
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Bro 1 billion, not 10 million

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1 billion is still more than 10x the best DC score anyone ever got

pallid girder
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My bad AcerolaPensive
Im just simping for unit I dont even have.

pseudo stag
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It's k she kinda sucks ass

vernal condor
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I don't even know if 10 minutes would be enough for 1b

cloud timber
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wouldn't be remotely enough

acoustic chasm
vernal condor
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DPS

acoustic chasm
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Yeah but which

cloud timber
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slash could be pretty usable

acoustic chasm
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CS9 slash?

cloud timber
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i didn't get much out of it before but i didn't have arc cynthia or bianca

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and still don't

acoustic chasm
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Is it a 4/5 node? I have 4/5

cloud timber
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yea it's 4/5

acoustic chasm
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Nice

warped gulch
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Flying tomorrow RosaThink

vernal condor
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Ghost not flying

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Flying is on tuesday

warped gulch
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Oh mb

vernal condor
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I'll try 2 ex r and 3 ex r Ingo DawnNom

warped gulch
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But i’m thinking about Flying that how to use 10/5 Gloria rn

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Without 10/5 passive i can just brain dead Max Move turn 1 and Bounce

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But now i need to save it for Flying Zone

vernal condor
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Yeah idk how it'll go

fluid anvil
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ghost 3v3 might break 6M now with Ingo evasion (and TM MPR) shenanigans LucianScheme
sync crit RNG will be hell though

vernal condor
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Well we need someone to have a 10/5 Ingo first

fluid anvil
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10/5 isnt needed here, if you're using 3/5 Yarrdenia for zone

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its more for UBs and stuff

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3-5/5 SSRC + 3/5 S.Gardenia + 3/5 SS Ingo is already a fully maxed out team for DC, in terms of move levels

true locust
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Who will be spam in this team?

fluid anvil
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will-o-wisp

true locust
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Since i see issue

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Haha

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Bad idea

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Gauge suks for it and also burn will cost time

vernal condor
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Gauge should be fine, sorta

true locust
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Where fine?

fluid anvil
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burn on 1 of 3 doesnt cost much time and gauge is manageable, there is MGA too
its already better than nc blue + Melony, because -6 spdef

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You'll see tomorrow 😉

true locust
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Better is gardenia and corless

fluid anvil
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no, SS Ingo is a must
Gardenia-Colress ws already used, it only does 4M+
This can break 5M or even 6M

true locust
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You forgot skill gears are most have on para

fluid anvil
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just get different skill gears 😉 for ghost zone/physical sync etc.

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Ingo +6 speed, +4 evasion, -6 sync count too good to skip him

true locust
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Not see it

fluid anvil
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and he makes reaching -6 spdef faster too

true locust
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His b move is super slow

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And who low def?

fluid anvil
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you dont use his b-move

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at all

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his max move does -2 def AoE

warped gulch
fluid anvil
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Just look at his kit, its insane for DC

warped gulch
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I can spam TW Colress without grid with Yardenia and Cynthia

fluid anvil
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his TM is probably the best team-wide TM for DC

true locust
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You have him?

warped gulch
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Even with only +2 speed from Yardenia

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Not to meantion burn animation

fluid anvil
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I have 5/5 SSRC, 3/5 SS Ingo, 3/5 S.Gardenia
but not the gears XD
and I wont reset for perfect run, too tiresome. Someone else will do it MinaBreak
I might just try to get 5M if I can

true locust
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Did you even use him?

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Since i think no

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You now wat happend when you use any move?

fluid anvil
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I've used him, but not in DC yet
but I have used 2-bar Oleana spam in DC several times

true locust
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Then go on any lg stage and check it;)

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You lossing alot time

fluid anvil
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His passives only activate on a successful move.
will-o-wisp fails = no activation

true locust
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It wat happend in short

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First he raise crit and attack

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Even from tm

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And special up too

fallen trail
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yeah ss ingo wont work

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his passive activates every move

fluid anvil
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from TM its fine. You only use TM twice
It shouldnt activate from will-o-wisp spam

fallen trail
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also who is paralyzing on that team

true locust
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You will need burn first time

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So its 3 time

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Wat cost you sync

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Check time lost

fallen trail
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oh wait it doesnt

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i thought thats how honing hit works

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regardless

fluid anvil
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why would it activate from a failed will-o-wisp ? It says "when the user’s move is successful.":
Team Brain Gain 9
Has a chance (100%) of increasing the Special Moves ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by 1 rank when the user’s move is successful.
Move: Sp. Atk ↑2 & Crit Rate ↑1 9
Has a chance (100%) of granting all of the following effects when the user’s move is successful: Raises the user’s Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks. Raises the user’s critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank.

fallen trail
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will o wisp spam is bad

fluid anvil
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why?

fallen trail
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burn damage ticks the timer

fluid anvil
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you only burn 1 of 3 targets, not all 3

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NC leaf + SS Hilda team already did that

true locust
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Any way 3 turn cost you alot time

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Plus burn too

fluid anvil
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that team has near 0 set-up, evasion, tons of sync reduction and fast spam

true locust
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This team miss low def

fluid anvil
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its better than Colress or nc blue +melony

true locust
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Wat have colress

fluid anvil
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Colress is very slow

true locust
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Its only 2 when you can get 6

kindred summit
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What was people Go to Team for DC Ghost?

fluid anvil
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Because debuff mitigation means -6 isnt worth it

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-2 already gives you most of the increase

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I never even did -6 with Colress, only -4

true locust
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Vokz did -6;)

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Its why he score the most

fluid anvil
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VoK will get more with this team. Colress can only do 4-4,5M

true locust
#

Not sure if this 3 turns -2 def and burn

fluid anvil
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evasion rng always gives the best scores

true locust
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Not end in same sync

fluid anvil
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this team should have 1-2 more syncs than Colress team

true locust
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Lol if you never get hit🤣

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Maybe 1

fluid anvil
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Ingo skips 6 turns = op
+evasion

true locust
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You can test it

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On this dc

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Cynthia gard and ingo set up

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Time

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And corless team set up

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And check time diffrence

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Befor first cynthia sync

fluid anvil
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doesnt matter, the ingo teams goes much faster later
evasion, -6 sync, faster spam >> Colress

true locust
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Matter since you just try catch up time

fluid anvil
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and the setup is fast, you only use Metal Sound once to gt -6 spdef

true locust
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You need hell miss for it

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Befor tell its faster test it out

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Then you now

fluid anvil
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1 Cynthia TM, 1 Metal sound, 1 max move, 1 will-o-wisp = setup done

true locust
#

You say you use 2 ingo tm

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Where you get miss? If no his tm

fluid anvil
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oh yeah, 2 TMs too. But his TM has -2 sync counter

fallen trail
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doesnt cynthia needs 2 tms

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yeah lol

fluid anvil
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no, gardenia can give her +2 Atk

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either way Cynthias TM is quick

true locust
#

You now ingo have tmp 1?

fluid anvil
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yup

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Still all better than Colress 🙂

true locust
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And fish for it and gard attack good luck

fluid anvil
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Someone always does it and gets the perfect run

true locust
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Or do like be did befor🤣

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Since im not sure if vokz have ingo

fluid anvil
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You said before that he did

true locust
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He did -6 def

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A yes he have him

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But may not use

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Since burn spam are not popular

fluid anvil
#

if you get 2 extra Cynthia syncs - the score is already 2M higher than Colress
but need evasion rng

true locust
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Plus he have gears for para

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So not sure if he can switch for zone itc?

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So hard tell

fluid anvil
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Colress' team is capped at ~4-4,5M, this is the only way to get more

plush palm
#

lenora or arc steven as ssr cynthia enabler?

true locust
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Lenora better

fluid anvil
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S.Gardenia > NC Leaf >= Lenora > Arc steven

plush palm
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fair

true locust
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Steven is build for lg / hse

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Dc not his event🤣

plush palm
#

debuffing to -6 takes so fucking long

fluid anvil
#

how long does MGA last ? 50 seconds ?

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How many syncs does Gardenia-Cynthia-Colress team do ? 1 Gardenia + 3 Cynthia syncs ? or 4 ?

fallen trail
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every field effect is 45 seconds base

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iirc

pallid girder
#

I heard that its 1 Gardenia + 4 Cynthia.

fluid anvil
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The Ingo team should get 5 Cynthia syncs, maybe not 6

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My Gardenia doesnt have Adrenaline 1 😦 and no cookies left

pallid girder
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Only if the gauge is sufferable, or maybe run Ingo's custom ls but accept it wastes time.

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Currently all of the doubt about SS Ingo spam is his gauge.

plush palm
#

thinking of running elio / 2/5 gloria alt / anni skyla for st flying

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Is it a bad idea

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Idk if i have a good way to trigger interference sync

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besides resetting for confusion

primal blade
plush palm
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nope

primal blade
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rip

plush palm
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Gonna stick w/ what i have

primal blade
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if he reruns in the upcoming months, highly suggested to get him

plush palm
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gonna be rolling adaman so only if i have gems

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not a whale

vapid kernel
#

Tmr i can finally Fantina and Shauntal vs ghost tests

fallen trail
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nc blue probably rerunning at new years

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if past anniversary trends are to go off

warped gulch
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And before she went with bianca and Nate for maximum dmg

fallen trail
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she didnt even have exr before

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now she has that and superawakening

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oop

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unfortunately the zone doesnt last long

mortal arrow
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How can I do more damage before it expires?

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This is what I'm using

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I don't have candies

acoustic chasm
fallen trail
mortal arrow
fallen trail
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interesting

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uhh

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make sure your colress has sand shelter

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and try for an mpr on cynthia

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dont use her sandstorm until before her first sync and only use it once

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since its so slow

plush palm
mortal arrow
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Nope

mortal arrow
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I just need a couple power ups

true locust
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Then this lol

mortal arrow
#

Aight, I just need move candies

vernal condor
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Don't candy a pair just for DC lol, it's not worth it

vapid kernel
#

Ok not raising Chase to 3/5 then

vernal condor
#

I sure am raising Chase to 3/5 bcs DC currently is my favorite mode DawnNom also he's good in general

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But raising something just for dc isn't worth, the rewards aren't good enough

pallid girder
#

Candy support is fine since you will use them in like half of the dc, and sometimes even outside of dc like ebes.

mortal arrow
vernal condor
#

Yeah fair

cursive linden
true locust
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Arc cynthia is realy good on 3/5 so this general invest

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Not just for dc mode

icy pendant
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tbf you should 3/5 and EX Arc Cynthia regardless, those are not investments you’d regret

vapid kernel
#

When Ghost ST comes im gonna die

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Because

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I will need to record clears of all Acerola units doing it this time around

delicate junco
#

final day for ground dc

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i have a 3/5 arc cynth but havent reached 1 mil

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there must be some sequencing im messing up

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unless even arc cynthia needs the premium support as well

true locust
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Arc cynthia team. Nc blue melony

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Lax melony

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Lax nc rosa

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Bianca colress

delicate junco
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i was using lax barry

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is there any special sequencing i have to do for the teams, like timing the lax TM?

cloud timber
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if lax melony works it's better

plush palm
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not sure why youd run lax barry

cloud timber
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though i'm hot sure where the gauge comes from so elio should be better than that

plush palm
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it should be lax elio and lax melony

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redlax gives para already

cloud timber
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yea redlax bp barry is outdated

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assuming elio/melony are ex

plush palm
#

maybe lax aaron on certain ranked stages immune to status

cloud timber
#

yea

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arc cynthia can fit in sands of time on her grid and with sand up melony's gauge will be fine, could need ft1 or ft2 on her still

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but sand chip could give enough time to not need it

plush palm
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wastes time tho

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not running sand shelter on melony?

cloud timber
#

would be looking at that

still hearth
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Omg tomorrow is Ghost right

cloud timber
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can grab the other sync node at +6e

#

yeah

still hearth
#

Ok I can definitely get at least 1M now

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This was when I just started playing again

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Now I got her 3/5 EXR

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I love seeing my progress

fluid anvil
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use Lenora + SSRC + Colress

cloud timber
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if they have lenora idk what colress is offering over bp barry

plush palm
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w/ barry do you typically para one or all 3

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usually i just do 1

acoustic chasm
#

Back to back Cynthia gaming

fluid anvil
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Yup

cloud timber
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bp barry could actually afford to set triple para in ranked, idk if that's going to change

cloud timber
plush palm
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i had issues getting in the last shadow force if i did

still hearth
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The “strat” is the same as the one in ranked no? Like queue shadow force before enemy syncs

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To get the SEUN

cloud timber
#

last time i tried was with dahlia so it might be that saving time

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but idk how much faster she is

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if she is

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had better success with her anyway

vernal condor
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like this?

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that team doesn't look super optimal now that i think about it lol

cloud timber
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it wasn't, don't think skinny was optimizing too much and people were doing much better with nc blue

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was worse gear and did better than what i had but also 5/5 dahlia instead of 2/5

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and skinny missed getting seun from first enemy sync

vernal condor
#

tbf she didn't have time for that, seeing she ended with 1sec

copper otter
#

The optimal team will be Colress/Yarrdenia/SSR Cynthia now

vernal condor
#

nuhu

cloud timber
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oh it was that

vernal condor
#

yeet colress, take ingo GladionSip

copper otter
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Why ingo?

vernal condor
#

yeah back then maybe that was the team

vernal condor
copper otter
#

But what are you even spamming?

vernal condor
#

willo

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on the left opponent

copper otter
#

Burn damage tho?

vernal condor
#

it's once every 5 moves, it barely matters

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and you don't need -6 def aoe because of diminishing returns

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He can also use a final move with +3 SMUN (assuming you reset for a tm mpr which you should) and SEUN

copper otter
#

Hmm.... question is, do you need him 3/5 to even utilize him for that team?

vernal condor
#

yes

copper otter
#

Yeesh

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I'd rather stick with yarrdenia at that point

vernal condor
#

no it's colress that you remove, not yarrdenia WEEZing

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ingo yarr cynthia is the team

copper otter
#

Hmmm...

vernal condor
#

I think to make ingo worth he at least needs 2/5 for the tm mpr

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+2 evasion isn't that good, and +4 speed isn't enough

cloud timber
#

though i wouldn't be convinced the gauge works out without throwing on charging infliction until i see someone make it happen

#

not even certain he's better than colress yet

#

if someone could set mga on tm then i'd say yeah he spams faster than colress but not without

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spams faster for a few syncs then gets hard walled by gauge

vernal condor
#

In a 3v3 setting maybe opponents attack enough

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Especially when 2 of them have aoe moves that you'll probably not dodge

cloud timber
#

they could be attacking any amount and it wouldn't matter

vernal condor
#

Also kinda changing topic but I just had the idea and I need to share it: V Hilbert as a spammer for NC Red + Chase (instead of DC Blue)
He got the supp sync, the aoe SpD drop, the zone, ice theme skill which is a big buff

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I dunno if you sync with Hilbert 2nd so all Red syncs are with both supp sync, or 3rd (or later) so stronger syncs have the zone, but it's definitely worth considering

sacred badger
#

ghost multi soon? ghost multi soon 😮

icy pendant
#

oh boy time for me to see if I can hit 2.5m with sc irida for no benefit whatsoever

fallen trail
#

gotta do more funny ss lyra + ss cyrus cheese for grass st

sacred badger
#

i'm down to see Fall Iono enjoyers here though.

fallen trail
#

though actually....... i have classic elesa now..............

sacred badger
#

but that BMove activation sucks!

icy pendant
#

like I fully have ssr cynthia invested this time but have unfinished business from last time

fallen trail
#

what would you think scores better between ss lyra/ss cyrus/chase and ss lyra/classic elesa/elio

vernal condor
#

Chase

sacred badger
#

grass single?

icy pendant
#

for ranked

stoic crest
#

What is the best option? I have stuff like red lax and champion blue. Please ping me

icy pendant
#

what research have you done yourself thus far?

stoic crest
#

Well last time it was Courtney but that was a long time ago

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And that was like 300k

#

Beyond that and the usual strategy stuff that's it.

#

The guide is useless since videos don't help at all. I don't process videos at all, it is easier with text discussion to understand

plush palm
#

courtney

cursive linden
icy pendant
#

There is more than video in those guides, identify the highest scoring clear you are comfortable with the investment on

plush palm
#

Redlax / courtney / elio or melony is probably your best option

sacred badger
cloud timber
#

courtney does not have the gauge for melony so you'd want elio

plush palm
stoic crest
plush palm
#

tm?

#

idk anout 1/5 arc cynth

stoic crest
#

Oh before I was told that the sync countdown took as long as sing

icy pendant
#

tm gives seun

plush palm
#

the tm is for SEUN

stoic crest
#

What grid for Courtney?

icy pendant
#

gonna be the same grid as last time, which is in the spreadsheet

stoic crest
#

Which crashes the game....

cursive linden
#

GRAHHHHHHHHH I LOVE CYNTHIA I LOVE GETTING 1M+ FROM HER

plush palm
#

got 2.4m from ranked

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idk if i can push higher than that

#

not w/o a better option than lenora

#

lenora takes forever

stoic crest
copper otter
cloud timber
#

yeah

#

elio also reduces the rng needed to max out courtney's offensive stats

icy pendant
#

Elio is strictly faster than Colress 40% of the time and the same speed 60%?

cloud timber
#

yep

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a little slower 60% of the time to account for low accuracy but not nearly enough to offset the benefit

cursive linden
copper otter
#

that unironically hurts my eyes.

plush palm
#

why does lenora take so fucking long to debuff

#

i get 2 ssr cynthi syncs in total

cloud timber
#

i'm thinking 3/5 ss hilbert ends up being better than lenora?

plush palm
#

nah

#

i tries lenora / colress / ssr

cloud timber
cursive linden
#

I hate that my Grass team is suck balls

cloud timber
#

i used ss hilbert the first time ghost triple was around and i scored lower than that since

#

bc i couldn't afford to use nc blue in ranked

#

this time i will be able to

cursive linden
#

AoE SP.Def?

cloud timber
#

yeah just that

cursive linden
#

guh

plush palm
#

ss hilbert / colress /ssr doesnt hit has hard w/o support ex

cloud timber
#

yeah that's why i used bp barry, only needed to para one as well

#

didn't have colress 3/5 at the time anyway

#

dahlia should be a straight upgrade really since she debuffs faster(?) but i didn't experiment much

#

but between lenora and ss hilbert i believe the latter is better if ripple effect

stoic crest
cloud timber
#

one courtney tm and 2 x defenses from her, with elio and redlax tms you'll have maxed offenses and defense for first sync

plush palm
#

ground zone lasts 45 seconds btw. keep this in mind

cloud timber
#

50 from the time you use it

#

with 2 support syncs it's very safe to just use it before first courtney sync and then set it again when timer is below 50

cursive linden
#

Double support? this one is kinda slow

cloud timber
#

ss erika wants to be setting her own sun for super infliction so ss morty is contributing not much

plush palm
#

thinking of running aaron instead of barry

cursive linden
#

SS Morty's existence is that i don't need to use TM MPR on Erika

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Good thinking

cloud timber
#

yea if you're going to stick to ss morty you can enable aaron perfectly

plush palm
#

aaron or ss steven

cloud timber
#

his tm is faster than defend order to buff defenses and you can grid +2 def +2 spdef on sunny day

cursive linden
plush palm
#

drop mgr on aaron

cursive linden
#

That strengthening heal is nice too

cloud timber
#

can be, but it can just as easily cost an extra sync so you'll have to toggle that as necessary

cursive linden
#

Aight

cloud timber
#

normally i leave it off

cursive linden
#

So, that team is double supp sync?

cloud timber
#

yeah

cursive linden
cloud timber
#

also vigilance does actually cost a tiny bit of extra time compared to most other skills if they aren't popping up any passives beyond debuff immunities

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bc debuff immunities are a net gain

cursive linden
cloud timber
#

yeah

cursive linden
cloud timber
#

that is a thing

vast glade
#

Cynthia only refreshed once but I will take it as a win since I managed to use B-move

long silo
#

Seems 4th Cynthia sync might be possible but that's enough reset for me. Lol

#

So the next DC is... Cynthia again

fluid anvil
#

we need the ghost Cynhtia to hit 7M too, double 7M = absolute cinema

long silo
#

Once Support Arc Ghost arrives, trust

#

is also Cynthia for some reason

cursive linden
#

Please don't jinx it wa_sad

long silo
cursive linden
unborn otter
#

No tm mpr

plush palm
#

not sure why youre running bianca w/ colress?

#

instead of idk barry

cloud timber
#

unova theme for circle

delicate junco
#

that was easy lol

long silo
#

Also this can sustain Colress w/o Charge Infliction

#

Depending on the run you can sneak in an extra Cynthia sync

pallid girder
#

Last time ghost Cynthia hit 4M at most.
I dont think 1 more sync can make her 7M like at all.
The best she can do is prob 6M if SS Ingo works.

delicate junco
#

is 1.2 mil good enough

#

or is that low for 3/5 arc cynth

cloud timber
#

if you really need someone else's opinion then yes 3/5 arc cyn can be pushed much higher but it depends on who you have access to

#

but ultimately nothing matters and it's a video game so there's also always that

delicate junco
#

What a good range

#

I dont have any Neo Champions so

#

no bianca no blue

#

got to work with barry sonia melony elio redlax

cloud timber
#

only thing i know is that 3/5 can generally go higher but no known range, redlax melony could be best of those

#

but elio would be much more reliable and easier to handle

rotund sierra
#

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devout pelican
#

So AS Cynthia is the only other option for ST Ground?

cloud timber
#

everything else is inferior to courtney

cloud timber
#

seems to be becoming standard to run bianca plus colress with no infliction freebie or at least it happened at least once before

#

has the speed and mga with bianca's free move nexts helping to pull it all off

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but it could also rely on frequent enemy movement to be the optimal choice, sand chip is helping in this case

cunning rock
# devout pelican So AS Cynthia is the only other option for ST Ground?

There's a run using NC Bianca, Maxie, and Courtney and going oonga bunga mode using Groudon Precipice Blade spam.

https://youtu.be/Mzm7SrI_g8A?si=yYd8_4eMkxTaGVQy

I was wondering if Maxie could get 1m by going full DPS, so I tried this team and it worked. This is my first time going full DPS mode in a DC too and I must say, it's refreshing. I still like the classic spam format but full DPS is also nice. But that also means he should be able to get around 1.4~1.5m in 3v3, which isn't a lot compared to othe...

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cloud timber
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idk if you were low/min speeding already but that helps with reducing misinputs

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cunning rock
#

Huh, 3v3 Dragon top score might skyrocket because 3/5 Arc Lance has access to Paralyze via grid.

#

Arc Lance + NC Nate + Sing Spammer.

cloud timber
#

i'd also be curious as to how og lance fares with superawakening

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and exr

cunning rock
#

OG Lance might need Elio to cover both Atk/Sp. Atk

#

At least you don't need to worry about OG Lance whiffing sync crits if you grab Build Up

cloud timber
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yeah he can fit that in

#

no speed buffs on the team so he was gonna need elio anyway

#

furious brain isn't the most important thing but i don't think you're fitting on anything better if you have max overcap

#

rejuvenate for melony would settle for 3 sync nodes

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well 4 if you take off furious brain

#

actually critical eye is bad, can fit on burst in and have crits for everything

pallid girder
pallid girder
cloud timber
#

if you want to use melony + rejuvenate and that turns to work out you can take that tile

#

otherwise not worth

old valve
#

AH CRAP CURRENT DC ENDS TODAY DOESN'T IT

#

3/5 ARC CYNTHIA IS BETTER THAN SOME SHIT LIKE COURTNEY RIGHT

hard sleet
old valve
#

I'll just try to send Arc Cynth with Melony/NC Blue ig

#

From what I can tell that's the best I'll get here(?)

cunning rock
hard sleet
#

Ah makes sense

cloud timber
#

elio with mpr maxes offenses in 2 uses

old valve
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Oh wait I'll need sand shelter for Melony to do this right

cloud timber
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she affords to take the team sandstorm immunity tile i believe

long silo
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Elio MPR PrycePain

cunning rock
cloud timber
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yeah 20% but not dealing with crit rng makes it much better

long silo
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It is when it takes 50 turns, then the freaking Heat Wave will burn you LarryDead

cloud timber
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though you'd need to roll the 30% to para still

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lol

old valve
cloud timber
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haymaker, drop defense crush

old valve
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How much do I want to drop Def anyways

cloud timber
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bottom right

old valve
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Should I bother with b earthquake at all

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Whoops put down the wrong name for a sec there lol

cloud timber
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once at the end only

old valve
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Fair enough

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Is blue def drop even worth gridding if my crits are guaranteed and I won't be dropping any def beyond that until the end

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Not that there's anything else that'd help me much more but

cloud timber
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no difference between +2 and +0 if critting

old valve
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That's what I mean yeah

cloud timber
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so it does help to ungrid it

old valve
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Swag poggers also

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Probably could do better but

plush palm
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3/5?

old valve
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Idk how much I care

old valve
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Probably could've gotten in a second b earthquake or smthn

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I got scared and refreshed sand

cloud timber
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nc blue + elio gaming (surely)

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next one is x speed and elio can neutralize and max smarty pants

loud cedar
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my gears suck ass

cloud timber
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trip up might be bad, had to wait for their second sync to set seun

loud cedar
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is arc steven slower

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for debuffs

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oh wait he heals

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ugu

scarlet ivy
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double support or just

vagrant ivy
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it’s mortying time again

loud cedar
scarlet ivy
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that I know, I'm just asking sync rotations

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do you sync immediately with cynthia after ex support or

loud cedar
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after both ex supports

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and enemies are fully debuffed but thats given after 2 support syncs

scarlet ivy
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Is there stun variance

cloud timber
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sparkling aria spam until max spdef

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shadow force before their sync to preserve seun

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otherwise standard sing spam

scarlet ivy
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max spdef sounds like some painful variance

cloud timber
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grid team mind games and team defense crush

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idk what people were hitting with nc blue + melony tho

scarlet ivy
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yeah, still coinflips so variance is there, + animations

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how many syncs did you manage to get off

cloud timber
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i threw sp3 on to reduce reliance on crits

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just 5 total

long silo
cloud timber
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seun for her first and third sync

scarlet ivy
long silo
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I remember someone reaching around 3.2m?

old valve
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What's the opposite of a buzzer-beater

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The primary difference on this run: I remembered to press TM like a not fool

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Oh is this ghost aoe?

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Should I just morty this, my Renegade Cynthia isn't EXR'd lol

cloud timber
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ghost, gatekeep, girlboss

old valve
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Ghostkeep gatekeep girlkeep

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I am a hoarder

cloud timber
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keep on keeping on

scarlet ivy
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I only get to sync once

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lol

cloud timber
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you have blue's defense drop tile gridded and are accounting for that right

scarlet ivy
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yes

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by the time the team's second sync is there

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I only have 1 minute left

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and I have not enough time

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even with sing spam on paralyzed opponents

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and head start on two mons

cloud timber
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might just be really bad rolls but i spent a bunch of time on sparkling arias already

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i have the recording and am uploading

scarlet ivy
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do you sync with both blue and elio

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or just one of them

cloud timber
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yeah

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both

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going to be improving that in a bit or at least attempt to

scarlet ivy
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how necessary is the t1 stun

cloud timber
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no idea

scarlet ivy
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oh you ran trip up too

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that might matter

cloud timber
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i took it off and still got a similar result

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but i didn't have to wait until the last second to set up seun and sync

scarlet ivy
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yeah that's the part where I'm trying to figure out

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the game ends before Hau's second sync

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and I get like -2 CD rather than close

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Kk, I got it, you essentially want to avoid Blue stun at all costs

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and ideally get a good early para roll

cursive mauve
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Why does 1/5 EXR SC Irida looks like she’s close to 1 mil TabithaHehe

grand oracle
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Ghost help?

cursive mauve
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Morty EX can hit 1 mil

pseudo stag
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First try f2p team

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Didn't max move before morty's first sync

vagrant ivy
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I just ran it right back with the ranked DC team

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has anyone tried fantina

cursive mauve
pseudo stag
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What da Alakazam doin

cursive mauve
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Spam TW + ramp + boost for Kanto circle

pseudo stag
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Ramp?

cursive mauve
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Yeah

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Sprint ex

pseudo stag
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Ah