I saw a run with him that got 350k
#Damage Challenge
vagrant ivy
cloud timber
yeah as long as you avoid grid overcap you'll be good for everything
brazen escarp
Ok so apparently if he had ex he would be doing 60k with his 4th sync
But even then that doesn't seem like alot
cloud timber
strike ex is tripling everything on multi target
warped gulch
If he had Ex, he’d be our best f2p MT Rock btw
cloud timber
the numbers are likely returning single target damage
cloud timber
yeah
brazen escarp
Ah
cloud timber
multi makes burn and poison much less punishing to use too
can just apply it to a side and they move a fraction of the time compared to single target
brazen escarp
Hmm
cerulean gull
still feels bad when you can't get the multiplier on all targets
that's kind of why I favor Klara for Poison DC; she doesn't need poison for good multipliers
normal parcel
Depends if you really need the multiplier, but in most cases the time saved is worth
cloud timber
yea burn/poison/interference mults are frequently worth not maxing out
if the number is 5 or less
poison buffs both geeta's sync and b move but my best run with her in multi still only poisoned one just to activate b move
and her sync mult for poison is only virulent toxin 3
pallid girder
SS Roxie also dont really need posion. The one that really need it is mostly cheap option (Koga, Looker)
cloud timber
and the aforementioned geeta to activate b move
brazen escarp
Courtney seems really good for that
vernal condor
I wonder if she's still the best or if cynthia or arc cyn outclass her now
vernal condor
probably
misty forge
Like, I'm expecting 2mil from her easily
vapid kernel
I wonder if she's still the best or if cynthia or arc cyn outclass her now
Im more wonderiny whats the best team for Courtney
Nc Blue and Melony or
vernal condor
probably the same as last time
vapid kernel
We need Red
vernal condor
sc steven barry
fluid anvil
ASC max 3v1 score will 3M+ easily, maybe 3,5M+
on avg probably 1,5-2M
normal parcel
Less than last time but I guess Is less RNG involved
pallid girder
Currently ~3M.
misty forge
3.05M circa
sacred badger
ah rip
i used uh
Redlax, BP Barry and Selene Alt 3R
damn her extension is only at 5/5
that kinda sucks.
young tartan
Welp this was fun
warped gulch
@true locust
normal parcel
Last rotation I got 2.2m with NC silver + red + SC Steven, but I don't remember how much RNG was involved
I guess several mpr
vapid kernel
what about Tech Candy? thinking of either pushing Oleana or SS Hilbert to 3/5*
My bug score sucks more but Oleana has more usage outside of Poison
I MEAN To 3/5
vapid kernel
what?? but Furbert gets 4.2M
true locust
When have alot rng and his sync crit
Olena have less rng plus she good for no status spam use in dc when caked too plus on lg she have alot solo too
true locust
3/5 you get speed boost when spam and for use power play and rest
vapid kernel
which part is the spped boost thing
vapid kernel
theres like no teams on the Excel that use Oleana except for Poison teams and two dragon teams Lol
now im thinking differently
stable mango
not to interrupt y’all’s perfect million scores but this is the best i’ve ever done on dc and i’m so satisfied 
vapid kernel
not to interrupt y’all’s perfect million scores but this is the best i’ve ever d...
interesting
stable mango
… crazy what actual strategy will do cause first i got like 175k cause i used both of reds tms before the first sync before i realized that was probably not the best choice
vapid kernel
dont use his TM on the sync then, use it before Silver's Buddy move
stable mango
anyways idc yall can go back to extreme strategizing i don’t go here
icy pendant
you can probably increase it by a good multiplier just by finishing leveling up
vapid kernel
because Silver is not EX so using a SE up on his sync is not good
icy pendant
like, 107 is not a level cap
stable mango
i’m very aware
stable mango
dont use his TM on the sync then, use it before Silver's Buddy move
yeah that’s what i did this time around
so yeah i’ll be back next dc to be mid maybe i’ll level up some if i care enough 
stoic crest
What should I use?
I'm assuming silver but what supports? I have stuff like red lax and NC blue.
Please ping me
cloud timber
yeah but i'd have no idea what supports to recommend so someone else will need to fill that in
nc blue + melony should always be at least somewhat decent but i'm sure there are better here
icy pendant
I think you can copy my 2m clear which is in the doc
icy pendant
you wouldn’t run her if she didn’t
stoic crest
I think you can copy my 2m clear which is in the doc
SC Steven and red lax?
icy pendant
I only have one 2m clear in the doc for this rotation
stoic crest
I only have one 2m clear in the doc for this rotation
So paralysis with red, and lower defense with SC Steven?
Sync countdown with red? I'm not sure how to make it work last time I got 1 million with that team. I have a hard time with videos
Yeah I'm so lost even watching the video
Can you breakdown what is going on? I don't comprehend video well
icy pendant
It’s actually really simple: you’re just cycling B moves with SEUN as often as you can, using Redlax potions (which I don’t but should do) and Steven’s Tackle to advance the missing parts of sync CD
stoic crest
It’s actually really simple: you’re just cycling B moves with SEUN as often as y...
And you get that seun from red right? The sync accel
And Steven has it too
I see silver used his b move after every sync
delicate junco
pallid girder
Arc Cynthia will be the best. Last time the best was Courtney but she has mega tax and not sure crit sync.
cloud timber
still blowing her out of the water
yea cynthia's the one without mega tax and with sure crits
and basically everything besides tech ex
true locust
Diantha has exrole?
She have but im not sync whit diantha. Waist time. She have zone extension is key thing in grid its all about diantha she may not even be ex exr for it
normal parcel
and basically everything besides tech ex
Her sync has the BP of a regular tech EX sync but no innate multiplier
cloud timber
yea
vapid kernel
She have but im not sync whit diantha. Waist time. She have zone extension is ke...
Interesting
Adam is always smarter than uz
I think this is a pretty good score honestly
dry whale
Interesting
That really only applies because he has the copies needed to get Rock zone extension. It changes the strategy.
true locust
Adam is always smarter than uz
Just did some run test some stuff and see wat is most optimal for high score
true locust
That really only applies because he has the copies needed to get Rock zone exten...
Yes if you dont have need sync for zone or get mp refresh
dry whale
Exactly and by not needing that you reduce RNG , saves time and allow for more overall damage to be gained.
cedar cloak
Is moving forward, every new DC reset won't give gems anymore?
full citrus
Assuming you’ve gotten your 1st clear on all DC stages then yeah, most likely no more gems from the regular ones
Should still get gem 1st clear rewards from ranked events though
true locust
Ranked always give gems since its new event . This is like cs mode just same again and again:)
normal parcel
Cs gives all the rewards when it reruns
grizzled musk
Is off typing a good idea? I dont have many rock types.
icy pendant
you can't offtype dps, the only offtyping is dot damage like sand or poison chip
icy pendant
you can get inertia on olivia, that's probably enough
your account isn't in a spot to really push too hard yet, so I wouldn't worry too much and just do what you can for now
icy pendant
getting a single DC pair requires scoring 1m on 3 separate battles
grizzled musk
Oh damn. So it's impossible
icy pendant
it's impossible to do today, but you should be doing every battle to the extent that you can since training tickets are permanent and they stack up over time
icy pendant
depends on what you have (both roster and gem-wise) and what you want, but that's not a question for the DC thread
grizzled musk
ooh right
cloud timber
progress in dc towards getting its units will be slow enough that if there's anything else left in the game that's possible for you it takes higher priority
if you're concerned about rewards only and not playing just for the sake of it
plush palm
tbh the units good in dc are generally ok to good elsewhere
like the only ones I can see someone rolling specifically for dc are maybe chase / sc steven / redlax ( none of which are on banner atm )
youll probably get use out of them in other game modes
maybe sc steven is a bit niche
cloud timber
they can help but 1/5 on anything is still shaky and i can't imagine how long it'd take just to get 1 unit to 2/5 with a very underdeveloped roster
and i mean the rewards, not the ones that are useful in dc
it's fine to prioritize dc-useful units
but none of the rewards are that aside from their own type
when you're trying to go for dc rewards and you haven't even redeemed torchic from main story you're just hurting your own roster
cunning rock
Some 1/5 Strikers can still hit 1M on 3v3 like NC Marnie but for 3v1? Nope, it's either 3/5 or you're not hitting 1M
pallid girder
Btw some best dmg dealers that deal best score in dc is not the best of their types. They only hit best score bc they have the key to spam sync faster.
cunning rock
Because stuff like Grassy Terrain, Hail, and Sandstorm actively works against you. On top of status like Burn and Poison
cloud timber
ss lysandre is so nerfed
sullen zephyr
Silver's sync kinda sucks. Dps with his b move got me a higher score.
fluid anvil
soon Ground ST and Ghost MT
double Cynthia in a row 
fluid anvil
SS Ingo will be #1 in Ghost 3v1
and in 3v3 he can boost SSRC score
pallid girder
FIono finally has time to shine. The rank one recently had special reduce so no one tried her.
vernal condor
Yeah actually now that I look at her, I wonder if she doesnt have a shot at being better than cynthia
568 SpA, -1 aoe rebuff and -2 SpD, SEUN all syncs, final B Move with 6 to 8 SMUN
You give her Gardenia for Ghost zone and additionnal -2 SpA, and for the spam you try Melony I think
fluid anvil
-she is Striker with a 90% multiplier
-SSRC is Tech with innate (x2 damage), 150% multipliers
x1,3 from rebuff cant make up for that and SSRC can have 2 SEUNs too (without needing MPR)
also S.Gardenia + F.Iono + Melony has no status setter unless I missed something
you need 10/5 SS Ingo - he can do both status (burn) and has ghost zone, but that goes for SSRC too.
Ingo can also be the status spammer himself as well, ala Oleana/Barry/Colress
vernal condor
Iono doesn't need mpr she gets her tm back after each sync
And yeah you don't use melony you use oleana
Im not convinced by ingo with specifically iono and gardenia, gardenia already covers the zone so he doesn't bring much else
fluid anvil
SSRC + 10/5 SS Ingo + S.gardenia will be the best team for 3v3 ghost I think. You get -6 spdef,- 2 def - fully sets up SSRC nuke
Ingo can burn 1 target, and then just spam will-o-wisp on that, similar to how NC Leaf burns 1 of 3 targets
the only thing then is that gears will need to have sync dmg based on ghost zone or something else, not para
fluid anvil
Im not convinced by ingo with specifically iono and gardenia, gardenia already c...
? 10/5 Ingo brings a shitton
- ghost zone with extension 3
- team evasion
- team speed buffs
- will-o-wisp
- befuddle 2
vernal condor
That first point is useless since gardenia already got that, but i guess the rest holds up
fluid anvil
the first point is valid if you use NC blue instead of Gardenia, but yeah
vernal condor
How many syncs total does the cynthia team get
fluid anvil
with the Ingo team? no idea, there hasnt been a ghost stage since Ingo came out
you get -4 spdef for free, zone for free, all of that saves time. Gardenia can give SSRC the missing +2 Atk too
then evasion
with godly evasion rng you can get ~7 syncs total? 8 is maybe a stretch
this is technically even better than Chase, since you get evasion without the hp bleed
fluid anvil
with current? with the Gardenia team - 5 syncs total I guess, 4 of them Cynthia syncs
there was an a nc blue + Melony + SSRC team that hit 4,3M (despite only having -2 spdef), I think that one had to be at least 6 syncs
the gauge for 2-bar will-o-wisp spam should be ok, you can get team speed +6, Ingo has 460+ base speed and S.gardenia has ghost accel 3
it seems even faster than Oleana VD spam and that was workable
cloud timber
victor succeeded at providing for 2 bar spam bc it was haunted accel 3 on top of 484 speed, gardenia has 340
not confident the gauge will exist for 7 syncs
fluid anvil
10/5 Ingo has 460+ base speed, the highest is chosen for the formula IIRC
cloud timber
that would help but i think chase's mga was involved and that team doesn't have mga?
fluid anvil
460 speed, 6 team speed and ghost accel 3 can be enough Ithink, but we'll see
also Ingo has has a bunch of -2 sync reductions:
-Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by 2. Raises the Speed of all allied sync pairs by 4 stat ranks. Raises the evasiveness of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks (refreshable TM)
-Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by 2 when its max move targeting an opponent that is affected by a status condition is successful
by the way:
-Team Brain Gain 9
Has a chance (100%) of increasing the Special Moves ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by 1 rank when the user’s move is successful.
-Move: Sp. Atk ↑2 & Crit Rate ↑1 9
Has a chance (100%) of granting all of the following effects when the user’s move is successful: Raises the user’s Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks. Raises the user’s critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank.
Do these activate if will-o-wisp fails (the target is already burned) ? They shouldnt, right ?
That would kill Ingo spam if they did
cloud timber
if you're really hoping to squeeze out 7 it won't be pretty
vernal condor
They don't
I already tried ingo spam
If Iono, Gardenia, Oleana gets 6 syncs (assuming +100 spa from gears, all crits and max rolls), she gets 3,567,903, and 4,774,503 if 7 syncs (which ngl I don't expect as you lose time every tm to apply SEUN back), and that's not including potential mults from the gears. With only 14% that 3.5 goes to 4m which was Cynthia's best, idk how many gears mult that cynthia team had tho
I think it's not tooooo farfetch'd to think that Iono can get more than Cynthia 
fluid anvil
if you're really hoping to squeeze out 7 it won't be pretty
I think 7 is doable but only with extreme evasion rng
with a TM refresh - ingo gives you -6 sync reduction for free, thats huge, would help getting 7 syncs
although even 6 syncs with fully maxed out SSRC sync should be a big boost. the nc blue team got 4,3M and that was -2 spdef
the same amount of syncs, but with -6spdef is an extra 66% sync multiplier with Smarty-Pants
that alone should be 5-5,5M
with 7 syncs, maybe it could cross 6M
fluid anvil
You dont dodge every attack, just some. The ones you dont dodge give you time for gauge refill
~2 dodges can already mean an extra sync
fluid anvil
no mga or mgb is extremely bad
the ranked rock team of Oleana - SC steven - SS Diantha had no MGA and they could mostly sustain Oleana spam
cloud timber
oleana has mgb
fluid anvil
I think VoK will hit 5,5-6M on ghost with his 5/5 SSRC and 10/5 SS Ingo, assuming he has good gears that dont need paralysis
although with Yarrdenia you shouldnt need 10/5 Ingo then
cloud timber
what's current best with ssrc
fluid anvil
wise mulch
fluid anvil
SSRC score is gonna improve with SS Ingo, Iono would need -2 rebuffs just to ~equal it, much less surpass
Strike sync with 90% vs Tech-Strike sync with 150% is a big gap
just noticed, Gardenia has
Catalytic Infliction
Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play the first time the user’s Pokémon uses a status move each battle.
gauge should be good
cloud timber
right that's huge
fluid anvil
7 syncs with SSRC + Gardenia + Ingo could be possible, that should be above 6M at least, maybe 6,5-7M (havent done any math, just coping)
cloud timber
1 mga can make it not completely miserable
still massively overestimating what 2 bar spam can do but i think that's as much as i have to say on that
misty forge
Spamming metal sound isn't that great tho is it
fluid anvil
I thought 2 bar spam wasnt feasible at all until I tried the Oleana - SC steven - SS Diantha team myself on ranked and it was .. pretty fine, somehow
you would only use it once, assuming you need the MGA
cloud timber
because move gauge boost provides a ton
the 2 bar in question is ss ingo's will o wisp
vernal condor
just noticed, Gardenia has
Catalytic Infliction
Applies the Move Gauge Accelera...
You lose time from Steel Zone being applied tho
fluid anvil
You lose time from Steel Zone being applied tho
+4 Evasion and -6 sync count from Ingo makes up for it
vernal condor
true
cloud timber
it's basically between oleana and chase to completely carry the potential of 2 bar spam
evasion would be far more useful if you could afford to fit melony on, just making the gauge issues extra apparent
fluid anvil
You can also kinda run SS Ingo + SSRC + Melony. Gardenia isnt required, she is just good
btw SS ingo custom LS is :
Charging Infliction 1 - Charges the user’s move gauge by one when its Pokémon uses a status move.
fluid anvil
Obviously slows him down to colress levels, but saves gauge
cloud timber
yeah he might actually need it to take full advantage of his evasion
fluid anvil
1 Cynthia at 7M+, the other at 6M+ lets go
pallid girder
With SGardenia the previous ghost team alr can roll eva and try dodging some hit.
SGardenia has team +2 random buff when summoning zone.
fluid anvil
yeah in theory you can get +6 evasion with gardenia + Ingo
sucks that Ingos TM refresh is only 20%
icy pendant
they’re giving pairs MPR1 in 2024?!
vernal condor
I mean did you see the TM
They could've given no MPR at all like anni lillie
I'm ok with SS Ingo getting MPR1
cunning rock
DeNA is rather strict with TMs that give CD
icy pendant
oh it’s totally fair, but you just don’t see a lot of MPR1 nowadays
true locust
The last one was 2 years ago lol
Not realy
Last for sure was mf rosa
She have mp1 also
vernal condor
Uh, true, weird that it doesn't show up
true locust
So maybe we have more units whit it
cunning rock
I'd be surprised if you didn't hit 1M with Arc Cynthia
unique abyss
I guess I'll just use Courtney, 1/5 arc cynthia is not enough
true locust
Arc Cynthia interesting wat i score 🙂
cunning rock
free 1m at least
AFAIK, she couldn't even hit 1M
Purely F2P I mean
She needed SC Steven for it
vapid kernel
Courtney with nc blue melony shud also barely 1M
normal parcel
Is Rose worth 3/5 (considering I have NC silver, poppy and arc Cynthia 3/5)?
true locust
Rose only good at 5/5
If not no sens
You need use him outside dc too
If need invest stuff
misty forge
He's good as secondary to all of those 3
He was never an op unit anyway
Not even at launch
And his 5/5 isn't the end of the world
1/5 is fine
Depends what you need him for
vernal condor
Nobody recorded any 
vernal condor
Yeah it's pretty obvious he can, just no one bothered recording it
lusty galleon
double unova circle + physical unit is a very useful strat for 1M lol
either ST or Triple
long silo
Too lazy, so DPS it is
proud minnow
I'm too lazy trying to replicate my last Rock 3v3 run
vernal condor
https://youtu.be/lU46jRvEOPQ
Why stone edge and not rock slide
It deals more damage
If Stone Edge has a faster animation then I understand until the last sync, but the final move at the very least should be rock slide
lusty galleon
not risking getting move rafa
vernal condor
Unless Stone Edge on 1 opp at -6 deals more than Rock Slide on 2 opp at -2 and 1 at -6 but I dont think so
vernal condor
not risking getting move rafa
?
cursive linden
not risking getting move rafa
Move rafa?
cursive linden
Oh
vernal condor
Wouldnt just using 1 more dire hit be better then
lusty galleon
so.... move rafa = when a regular one doesn't crit
just saving time in general lol
vernal condor
You didnt need to reapply the circle at the end
vernal condor
You could also just attack twice
lusty galleon
but if circle fade away when I was attacking twice?
it would go down to from x1.4 to x1
vernal condor
It doesnt because you set it at 1:20 left
vernal condor
I guess lol
lusty galleon
I only reset for the first flinch
if anyone can improve it, good 
the run is just to show, even if it is not very optimized, that can reach 1M easily without special gear for it
vernal condor
Gimme your account 
lusty galleon
sending phone to france
vernal condor
normal parcel
Rose only good at 5/5
Nha not willingly to get him to 5/5, I have him at 2/5 because I got him 2 times before pitying for poppy,
true locust
Then keep rose as it is. Poppy better
severe mirage
Have we wrapped round all 34 stages now?
glad kraken
yeah, that happened a couple weeks ago
severe mirage
gosh I didn't even realise due to the points resetting then
that's good, was worried I wouldn't get all the sync pairs
vernal condor
We've had for 2 weeks now
Seems like it will just keep cycling the same stages
With new stages only being made for super sparring
vernal condor
We shall see tomorrow, but if I did it correctly the stage on the Current DC page should update automatically now
(actually it won't, it needs the sheet to be recalculated, so someone will have to change a value in "search by pair" or "search by dc", and maybe submitting a run works too)
still hearth
Ok guys so tomorrow is ST Ground right
icy pendant
yes, also the pinned chart is updated with the new dates
zealous arch
Selene and Nigeligo are not particularly good for damage challenge becuase of the super slow buddy move right?
icy pendant
She's the only option with an aoe tech EX and some decent multipliers to go with it, so she's a very solid option just ignoring the B move
icy pendant
not slow if you never click it
cloud timber
yea usually you won't need to
still hearth
I’m so (not) ready for next DC!!
thick stump
real
icy pendant
did we know about nc blue melony last ground st?
thick stump
"we have arc cynthia at home!"
arc cynthia at home:
thick stump
did we know about nc blue melony last ground st?
idts but even then nc blue isnt particularly helping any ground dd
unless you're trying naomi stonks
which i'd highly reconsider
icy pendant
oh just -2 def and +6 speed to facilitate sing spamming
thick stump
still think red + colress would be better here
still hearth
I wonder how 10/5 Cynthia would do in both ST and AOE ground Dc
thick stump
still worth to see which works better though
thick stump
I wonder how 10/5 Cynthia would do in both ST and AOE ground Dc
easy 1 mil+ in both no questions asked lol
especially now she has tech ex
icy pendant
woah base cynthia got tech ex? forgot about that
thick stump
if you sing spam you shouldnt need sand alert
build up guarantees sync crits after the first
icy pendant
sde5 just seems better
every sync is going to cost you 4-5 seconds from dust kicker setting in
thick stump
sde5 is only for dps
icy pendant
true
icy pendant
then just sand alert + first sync def -2
thick stump
we'll see how high she scores compared to arc cyn
meanwhile i'm stuck with the same unit i used first time around
i need a new ground fav not named sc adaman
icy pendant
true I love my adaman but that only lasted until I got my arc cynthia
thick stump
i plan on 3/5ing him just so i have someone other than maxie
but he's got some contest with some other pairs to 3/5
icy pendant
mine chills in 2/5 land because that's all he needs for LG but maybe one day he'll get a candy
cursive linden
I am ready
cursive linden
Man, i love DPS + Sync team
pallid girder
I doubt og Cynthia can "easily" hit 1M in 3v1.
cursive linden
5/5 Prob
cloud timber
5/5 barely hits it in multi
pallid girder
Especially when the opponent spam acid. (1 bar move with aoe debuff)
cloud timber
yeah idk if there was ever a more annoying move tbh
cloud timber
oh tbf it was pre-ex role so she can hit 1.5m with same setup next time
pallid girder
SC Adaman can hit over 2M easily in 3v3 and also had record of hitting 1M in 3v1.
He's definitely not a bad choice but sadly he won't get 5/10 upgrade like og Cynthia or SS Giovanni.
cloud timber
10/5 is extra inertia and hs1 at the cost of starting sandstorm on entry which hurts but it's better to have it than not to
i think 10/5 can 1m, would help more to not try to use sand though
enough things going for her and enough buffs to compensate mega penalty
sacred badger
Can 10/10 help her at least?
she could probably do......
pallid girder
I think hardcore Cynthia fans will find a way, but it'll definitely not easy.
cloud timber
might still be a bit short without god gear
cloud timber
one missed crit
vernal condor
We shall see tomorrow, but if I did it correctly the stage on the Current DC pag...
Omg it's working
clever wasp
Wait is Courtney still the best for this
clever wasp
Thank goodness
long silo
But she's still like the best accessible option that gets the job done
vernal condor
Courtney still 2nd tho
clever wasp
I can't take another million resets this time around
cursive mauve
Broke ass me still grinding for 1 mil
cloud timber
yeah everything else is still quite bad
clever wasp
This one was not fun the first time 😅
cunning rock
It's better than Fairy/Bug ST. At least we have options for Ground ST to have a decent score
cloud timber
wasn't very bad with elio imo, can eat a few debuffs and get away with it
cursive mauve
On a roll 9 ahh moment
vernal condor
Still wastes time
plush palm
done
why tf does this thing have acid
getting the last 50kish is super rng heavy
got tired or resetting and just ran SP3
i can see a chase comp maybe getting an extra sync in or smth
otherwise i think she caps at 1.1mish
copper fulcrum
The acid animation is so long and it keeps spamming it WTF
can't get 4th sync with AS!Cynthia with Snorlax and Klinklang
copper fulcrum
it's one of the shortest just very frequent
I see
lone pond
5/5 courtney or 1/5 arc cynthia for nuking
copper fulcrum
Is Primarina animation faster than Klinklang?
vernal condor
If Courtney crits her sync, Courtney Maxie Bianca gets 1m lol
But 2 times I've tried and 2 times i've not crit 
I'll do it later
warped gulch
Is Primarina animation faster than Klinklang?
Not really, they have the same fail animation
cloud timber
primarina's non-animation is faster than klinklang due to less passive procs
when comparing sing fail to twave fail
warped gulch
But duo to passive, Elio is faster
cloud timber
infliction freebie procs 100% of the time, propelling move 5 is 60%
vernal condor
cloud timber
wack
clever wasp
So red Cynthia and colress is best?
cloud timber
i'd assume nc blue + melony
clever wasp
Anything that stops me from using Courtney 😅
Once was enough
Forever worth of resets
warped gulch
So red Cynthia and colress is best?
Arc Cynthia?
clever wasp
Yes
clever wasp
The only time I ever tried base Cynthia was always a complete disaster
In general I mean
faint quiver
Got my 1 mil with Arc Cynthia and dipped.
What an unsatisfying stage where damage just not high enough to be fulfilling, annoying TM refresh rate and the non-stop spamming of Acid that somehow debuff multiple times.
true locust
Lol acid complain? I never got def drop😂
clever wasp
Cynthia has sand fortress so if the sand is up you could avoid the acid drops for that
Or forego the extra countdown and stop the spdef drops
Idk if she even has room in the grid for it tho
olive wraith
3 Supereffective
clever wasp
So bianca is better than Redlax?
cursive mauve
Arc cyn alr has SEUN so Redlax is not needed
lone pond
what does bianca do again
cunning rock
Evasion + Speed up + -2 defense + flinch
true locust
3 Supereffective
Nice 🙂 done
clever wasp
Anyone got a decent grid for Cynthia?
olive wraith
vernal condor
true locust
No extra orbs need
lone pond
ok as it turns out 1/5 arc cynthia is actually awful if i want to colress strat
vernal condor
1/5 arc cyn isnt doing shit
clever wasp
Least for the single
olive wraith
Colress's grid has sand shelter,bianca doing nothing after sand
clever wasp
So you don't really even need team sand immunity then
lone pond
also fuck the acid
clever wasp
Wait but if Colress spams that's not even needed
lone pond
I CAN'T COLRESS OVER HUGH BECAUSE OF THE ACID
true locust
Its why gauge is important
clever wasp
That's what I hate about the DC. Everything gets so complicated
cursive mauve
That's what I hate about the DC. Everything gets so complicated
Actually it’s just derived from sing spam
Status spam is the general meta
Not that complicated
clever wasp
I'm just used to the gauge refresh
cursive mauve
Anyway lodge Rika is uhh
cursive mauve
I'm just used to the gauge refresh
Time to get used to no passive status spam
vernal condor
Anyway lodge Rika is uhh
Woah who would've guessed the washed unit is washed 
vernal condor
thunder wave accuracy
clever wasp
Would screech with move gauge work? Or is that too slow too
vernal condor
spamming screech is worse than twave
clever wasp
Yikes
vernal condor
but you can also just use infliction freebie and not care about gauge
clever wasp
Yeah but that makes things extra slow apparently
true locust
Yeap
vernal condor
then yeah use infliction freebie it's fine
normal parcel
Barry has Stalwart lol
Acid is AOE so they can debuff your other teammates
clever wasp
This stupid thing sucks
Didn't even get close
And now gotta fight for mpr
For cynthia
normal parcel
What's best (not aWhaled) team?
vernal condor
arc cyn
normal parcel
With?
vernal condor
3 Supereffective
vernal condor
That doesnt look very rng tbf
warped gulch
I still can get 1.8m with that team
vernal condor
ig you need tm mpr
normal parcel
I suppose like 2 MPR later on for Cynthia and probably dodges from bianca
warped gulch
With only 1 Tm for final Sync
vernal condor
yeah sounds about right
normal parcel
I mean the problem isn't the amount of mpr, but the fact that mpr is needed later on
warped gulch
With only 1 Tm for final Sync
.
clever wasp
I can't even get a mil
normal parcel
Is much easier to get 2 MPR turn 1 than 1 MPR turn 10
clever wasp
Cynthia makes two whole syncs
normal parcel
Ok 1 tm is fine
warped gulch
Only sand for her 2nd Sync
clever wasp
I did sand on her first sync
Second gotcha
Uhh so I don't use sandstorm before first sync and I do 29k
That was ugly
warped gulch
What is your Cynthia grid ?
clever wasp
This
Barely broke a million. Cynthia barely gets two syncs off
Bianca dodges nothing ever
olive wraith
olive wraith
1/5 Oleana is OK
clever wasp
Not 0/5 😅
true locust
Why oleana?
olive wraith
support cake
vernal condor
How many syncs do you get total
warped gulch
@clever wasp i just thing you do something wrong
clever wasp
Has to be something yeah
olive wraith
total 5
warped gulch
Bc that run isn’t that rng
vernal condor
then you don't need oleana
true locust
5 sync is maks 2 sup 3 chynthia
vernal condor
Syncing with 1 support and then cynthia 4 times is better than with 2 support and 3 cynthia
So colress is better than oleana, for both the circle and para odds
clever wasp
I only get a sync with Bianca and this time barely 2 with Cynthia having Colress spam
clever wasp
I want higher. What I have rn barely scrapes above what Courtney does
cloud timber
drop infliction freebie
vernal condor
yeah if you want more you need to drop it
clever wasp
Is sandstorm gauge gonna keep the speed up enough?
warped gulch
Yes
clever wasp
And I need sandstorm t1 right
warped gulch
And I need sandstorm t1 right
Hell no
vernal condor
colress can TM for more gauge in the worst case scenario
warped gulch
Watch the run
clever wasp
Yes please give me the link
vernal condor
but you should sandstorm right before cynthia's sync
clever wasp
Anything beats driving myself nuts to figure it out
vernal condor
bro 💀 scroll up they posted it
vernal condor
they literally pinged you
true locust
Nobody look🤣
clever wasp
Sorry it's literally midnight I think my brain broke
true locust
Told you not use free move its key
warped gulch
If you only aim for 1m, it isn’t that hard
clever wasp
If you only aim for 1m, it isn’t that hard
I have the million. I want more. And for that I will take off infliction freebie
vast glade
There is more optimal runs and teams but I will settle with this
Way better than the pain that was trying to reach this with Courtney in the first rotation
drowsy pier
There is more optimal runs and teams but I will settle with this
Is there a video with this team? I just did it and couldn’t even break 1 million
clever wasp
Welp 1.3M off 3 syncs with Cynthia
I just realized I still had crit strike on Colress from the steel single
drowsy pier
Is there a video with this team? I just did it and couldn’t even break 1 million
Nvm I realized the key is to not use Sandstorm until Cynthia’s second sync (aka only use Sandstorm once)
clever wasp
How far does Bianca get with free moves next cuz it doesn't really seem to take time
clever wasp
Are 4 syncs possible for Cynthia?
normal parcel
1st try
clever wasp
Wait what is Rosa doing?
cunning rock
Likely Teeter Dance spam
royal lodge
oh that one is even better w/o confusion stalling the enemy
true locust
No tm refresh
Just need extension on circle bianca flinch and low def in grid
This is key things
clever wasp
I have tried to get the extra sync and I cannot do it. Glued at 1.3M
normal parcel
Likely Teeter Dance spam
Sing spam, if they sleep they take no sandstorm damage
vernal condor
but then you have sing animation which isnt much better 
normal parcel
Wanted to make a try, definitely not optimal
vernal condor
wtf is this
pallid girder
Lets see will anyone do 10/5 og Cynthia.
vernal condor
Maybe she can do 1m but not much much more
clever wasp
I think I quit
Everyone's saying no RNG needed but I can't reach that 1.7M they have
vapid kernel
Anyone breaking beyond 1M with Courtney
cloud timber
Everyone's saying no RNG needed but I can't reach that 1.7M they have
well yea they aren't showing gear
loud cedar
i think im gonna stick with camerupt
normal parcel
Tried the colress bianca combo, but I scored less
Can't get more than 4 total syncs with that team
I guess you will need lots of dodges or full para on acid to get 5 syncs
cloud timber
infliction freebie on?
normal parcel
Yes, you can do it without?
normal parcel
But bianca should attack too?
vapid kernel
Holy jesus mother of spheal
warped gulch
Can't get more than 4 total syncs with that team
When did you use Cynthia’s Sand ?
Do not use it for 1st Sync
warped gulch
But bianca should attack too?
Enemy get chip dmg from sand, and Acid so the gauge isn’t the problem
normal parcel
True, without infliction freebie gauge isn't much of a problem
normal parcel
When did you use Cynthia’s Sand ?
I was using it for second sync, but infliction freebie just took too much time
vast glade
Is there a video with this team? I just did it and couldn’t even break 1 million
Sorry, I didn't record it but here is a few things I did:
Used Cynthia TM on turn 1 to see if it refreshes
Got para status with Blue
From then on, burn Blue's speed buffs and Sing spam until both support syncs. For Cynthia's first sync, no need to set sand
Then sing spam and as you get close then you use sandstorm. The refreshed tm i used in the following sync cycle
Not sure if it's optimal but it got the result I wanted so...
Also, I luckied a couple of paras so there's that too since I managed to fire off a b move
clever wasp
I've only gotten to 3 syncs from Cynthia
Which at best to me to 1.3M. No slightly better gear is gonna net me another .4
clever wasp
I do
Really hate that my last two clears for the last two are sandstorm based which just ruins spam
clever wasp
Can do
cloud timber
Which at best to me to 1.3M. No slightly better gear is gonna net me another .4
gear can provide up to 45% bonus and that would only require 30%, even less if your gear isn't max attack
thick stump
ground st my beloathed
clever wasp
The best is record your run
I can't upload it here
cloud timber
youtube would be good but streamable could be easier, just that it won't last as long
true locust
Yeap on yt
vernal orbit
Does the enemy AI have an innate accuracy buff or something 
this guy hitting me flawlessly through 6 evasion and paralysis
cloud timber
gotta keep trying, getting very unlucky runs is normal
vernal orbit
I see, arigator 
cloud timber
also +6 evasion is still only 50% and acid has 3 rolls to play an animation so dodging that specifically can be difficult
since it only needs one to land
cloud timber
evasion will reduce odds of eating spdef drops so even if the animation plays that still helps
cloud timber
video is set to private
guessing you aren't managing to max debuff defense while still hitting 5 total syncs (i mean with bianca btw, not screech)
but adam will see
wise mulch
https://youtu.be/kbPPfQBaKxY?si=V4UY-A8gL90ExTSu
You can make it "unlisted" people with the link still can open the link but still private to public 
cloud timber
you aren't supposed to get more than 5 but you need to make the most of every one
yeah i just upload everything as unlisted, don't really care for yt algorithm handling my stuff
unique abyss
So I'm done, exactly the same team as during the first run
Btw 1/5 arc cynthia can score at least 700k points
vapid kernel
I hate how the eelektross is spamming Acid
Waste of MY time
I have 54 seconds and i cant even fit 3 courtney syncs within that
normal parcel
Everyone's saying no RNG needed but I can't reach that 1.7M they have
Are you using charging infliction?
copper otter
The only one i do not have 1 mil on, will be fixed with 3/5 Glorace
vagrant ivy
here’s me pushing 860k with my 2/5 one
normal parcel
I already had 1m in every battle but I improved some, (not rock, my previous clear had more RNG and I didn't wanted to redo it, but still over 1m)
vagrant ivy
of course she gets team sandstorm immunity and haymaker at 3/5 so I don’t need to run sand shelter on melony
for me 1m in every battle won’t be happening for a while
like idk how to deal with stuff like fairy ST and grass ST
when all I got is Katherine
normal parcel
To be fair I had to invest into SS Hilbert, otherwise st bug would have been impossible for me
unique abyss
To be fair I had to invest into SS Hilbert, otherwise st bug would have been imp...
damn, my st bug is 400k...
I have 1/5 SS hilbert but idk if I should invest in him
normal parcel
1/5 didn't helped at all, however I've invested in it since I don't really have any decent bug option besides Guzma
Alder kinda sucks
vagrant ivy
several ST stages such as ice, dark, bug, fairy fighting and grass I straight up don’t have options for
true
unique abyss
ig i'll wait for ranked dc with bug stage and then decide
at least flying st should be better with dc silver
vagrant ivy
managed to push 
over the million in ST fire during ranked but it’ll be hell when regular version rolls around still
vagrant ivy
at least flying st should be better with dc silver
eh I’ll just run lodge serena
normal parcel
I guess lodge Serena wants SC steven
unique abyss
I had nc cheren/sc steven/barry and scored 840k
vagrant ivy
I guess lodge Serena wants SC steven
yep which I don’t have
normal parcel
Her b move takes ages
vagrant ivy
yeah
unique abyss
and lovely sandstorm
normal parcel
I think Giovanni could DPS
vagrant ivy
needs 3/5 otherwise it’s nuh uh
vagrant ivy
Yea, but does a littlr under 100k a hit
no way tm mpr simulator
vagrant ivy
how do you sustain his gauge bruh
pallid girder
SS Hilbert can also DPS 1M in other 4 types with the right pair.
copper otter
Too lazy for dc until flying
copper otter
no way tm mpr simulator
That message was in regards to dps cynthia
icy pendant
I almost hit 2m with the NC Blue Melony core but it needs 2-3 para procs in sand I think
copper otter
Gioking does about 40k per mega kick
copper otter
Yea
normal parcel
how do you sustain his gauge bruh
I mean arc Cynthia works despite sandstorm because she's busted, but sandstorm is terrible for DC
vagrant ivy
unique abyss
Gioking does about 40k per mega kick
every time I see mega kick I have zekrom kick in my mind
vagrant ivy
I mean arc Cynthia works despite sandstorm because she's busted, but sandstorm i...
sand blaster 4 custom LS:
normal parcel
You really have to be busted to perform well in DC relying on sand
vagrant ivy
wasn’t Courtney the best option when this DC first ran
unique abyss
yes
copper otter
https://tenor.com/view/zekrom-kick-pokemon-gif-11870547
10/5 N be like
normal parcel
sand blaster 4 custom LS:
Is more that she can only land like 3 damaging syncs, but she hits so hard that is enough to out damage Courtney
vagrant ivy
I see
pallid girder
FRoxanne is a shame. She's the best Ground unit before ArcCynthia but she happens to be terrible at DC.
cunning rock
Having your innate be tied to trap will do that to you
Bug has it worse since even Viola relies on it.
prisma quail
Woo. Got 1 million for single ground this time
Just barely missed it with camerupt last time
icy pendant
confirmed viewable
warped gulch
Wait, why no Sand for Cynthia’s 2nd Sync ?
pallid girder
ArCyn hit 3M. It's funnily better than some of the real tech units.
brazen escarp
Why am I getting so less, I'm even using sing spam 😭
unique abyss
Why am I getting so less, I'm even using sing spam 😭
lol how
teal haven
Camie is the f2p go-to but if you're using like clay or hapa I can see the struggle
brazen escarp
What lvl are your units and are they ex'd
No ex
teal haven
Are they at least 5*?
brazen escarp
I was using that team magma girl
teal haven
You relatively new?
brazen escarp
Okay so you have camie...
It's courtney
brazen escarp
You relatively new?
Yes
teal haven
Yeah you're gonna struggle for a bit
unique abyss
Do you have bp barry 3/5
teal haven
I think there's a page somewhere in here for new player tips
teal haven
It's courtney
Then who is camie... My mind works weird
unique abyss
Your courtney is 3/5 at least?
teal haven
Id assume not
They don't have many units over lvl100
I'm guessing first 2 months of playing
unique abyss
Well that can't be helped too much
true locust
This mess of a battle should work now
First thing is you need flinch from start. Second is use tm and sand befor cynthia 2 sync. If get tmp resfresh befor 3/4 get more its all . And play on slower speed it help you
Its all about it
And use cynthia custom cookie
Not cr2
fluid anvil
3M in 3v1 DC as a ~Striker with sand and slowass double WZT animations ?
Nice
unique abyss
Well that can't be helped too much
At least make sure there are 2 teams with lvl10 rare caches in tl expeditions, so lvls can be farmed a bit quickier, books and other materials are easier to get now
cursive linden
Eh good enough
normal parcel
Why am I getting so less, I'm even using sing spam 😭
At this point try poison stall
clever wasp
Redid it but was worse
Also by second sync do you guys mean second sync total or Cynthias?
Also I'm only getting 3 syncs off with her
clever wasp
Thanks
pallid girder
Why does Bianca keep attacking?
clever wasp
Also just my curiosity before I see is 4 sync with Cynthia usual?
Free moves next
No chancing gauge
Or is Colress just faster and can hold gauge
Cuz I think I tried before with mostly twave and it ran out of gauge
warped gulch
Why you keep attacking with Bianca ?
pallid girder
It's contradiceted to the basic of "status move" spam.
warped gulch
And also Cynthia’s sand can -2 Sync CD
warped gulch
Cuz I think I tried before with mostly twave and it ran out of gauge
Did you even watch my run ?
clever wasp
So I shouldn't have any gauge issues if I just spam with Colress after the -6 defense?
I did and I tried to mimic it
But I think I mixed myself up still
warped gulch
true locust
After max speed and eva no need bianca hit
warped gulch
You only hit with Bianca to +6 Speed and Evasion
And when run out of gauge use Colress Tm
It should fix your gauge for a while
Hugh just fast with Acid spam
So he gets recoil a lot
= recover Energy
clever wasp
I'll try it later without using Bianca after she maxes out
Anything else I did wrong?
pallid girder
Btw it makes me feel like ArcCynthia is just so unfair.
A random run with not optimal strat can still hit 1M easily.
true locust
My run was no mp cynthia if get and get more miss you easy score
Arc units its op like 10/10 pokefairs new
warped gulch
plain surge
Might be the best I could do
pallid girder
So is Colress better or Oleana better?
warped gulch
Corless
sacred badger
can i do Colress + Redlax? :<
warped gulch
Supp -> 3 Cynthia is better than 2 Supp -> 2 Cynthia
sacred badger
my NC Bianca is 3/5 atm
sacred badger
Supp -> 3 Cynthia is better than 2 Supp -> 2 Cynthia
okay. i'll take your advice ;-;
warped gulch
Colress also para to lower speed and Unova
clever wasp
Thanks guys I'll try this again later
sacred badger
Colress also para to lower speed and Unova
my NC Bianca is 2/5
so redlax is better yeah?
vernal orbit
barry gives support sync and paralyses too, but you need some rng to be able to launch 5 syncs + cynthia's move
tulip lichen
The worst thing about using Barry is the amount of times i accidentally click his TM during sync
Such a time loss
It hurts
rare apex
THUD! is the sound of your fingertip hitting the TM instead of the skip button
olive wraith
https://youtu.be/kbPPfQBaKxY?si=OnxIf0CA6TyPUr4D
Are you comedian?
fluid wave
what 5 sync moves?
5 is impossible w barry
unless you're counting 2 of it as barry's support sync buff.
vagrant ivy
miss 1 crit at start
here’s my attempt at f2p ground ST
with ex should be expecting 700k, but +2e needed for camerupt
pallid girder
Hope SS Elesa gets a god tier pb that works in dc.
fluid wave
Barry's too slow.. maybe singing is better.
vagrant ivy
arc lance gaming?
pallid girder
SS Elesa was once the staple of time trial event, but in dc she gets no use when she can’t support the gauge of sing spam.
vagrant ivy
people tried using her during the very first stages
it didn’t work well in the face of para and then sing spam
vagrant ivy
SS Elesa was once the staple of time trial event, but in dc she gets no use when...
for which time trials in particular
warped gulch
for which time trials in particular
For very early f2p strat
Before we didn’t know about sing strat yet
We used Elesa mostly for evasion
vernal condor
Dunno for TT but for DC Elesa never really was good
warped gulch
Well very early we gambled with her evasion
vernal condor
Even when sing spam wasnt a thing yet, she was there because nothing was better but thats it
warped gulch
cunning rock
Man, I really love how consistent Courtney is when it comes to syncs, sometimes she never crits her syncs at all
vernal condor
She's consistent at not critting
cunning rock
I'm still grinding my 1M run. It's fun having +2 Evasion and Hugh never acknowledges it the whole run
vernal orbit
5 is impossible w barry
I just did it today 
vernal condor
I went DPS mode with Maxie and Courtney, you only need 1 Sync to crit so it's pretty simple
vernal orbit
Bianca, Barry and 3 cynthia syncs + her b move
You need some rng but it didn't take me over 30 mins I don't think
cunning rock
I went DPS mode with Maxie and Courtney, you only need 1 Sync to crit so it's pr...
EXR Maxie?
warped gulch
And heal too if you grid for it
vernal condor
Just ex
cunning rock
Just ex
Then I can do it, just spam Bianca attack and refresh her circle?
Bianca > Courtney > Maxie sync order?
pallid girder
SC Adaman hit 1M last time, though only 1 screenshot and no video recorded.
cunning rock
Thanks
warped gulch
So i just try dpsing with Adaman
And
Hugh hit a perfect health that Adaman didn’t heal from his grid
pallid girder
Why not Bianca? She feels like the staple of DPS spam.
vernal condor
Also wouldnt Courtney be better than larry
vernal condor
He wants to be ✨ original ✨
pallid girder
Rika is better than SC Lyra or Courtney.
warped gulch
With Bianca i already reach 800k without CS2
pallid girder
Rika packs support ex, zone and team eva. Last time its her helping SS Gio and SC Adaman hit 1M.
vernal orbit
I just realized I had antitoxin on cynthia 
Screw it not refreshing again
1.55m with crit strike 2
azure hornet
I hate ground DC the most out of all of them
fluid wave
some how 5 ults in w barry with 1sandstorm was worse score than 4 ults with 2 sandstorms in.
vagrant ivy
you are getting 300k with clay?
Bertha does less than 200k but I could probably optimize by not running Sonia melony
what are you running with clay
sacred badger
Arghhhhh
misty forge
You're setting sand + gz two times
You really shouldn't do that
It cuts like 20 seconds
vernal orbit
Lengthy animation 
sacred badger
It cuts like 20 seconds
It runs out of gas before i can drop the third sync
misty forge
Then just don't use it on first sync
fluid wave
somehow my 2 sandstorms came out 460k and 1 sandstorm came out 340k
this game makes no sense.
cursive linden
Then just don't use it on first sync
OH SO THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT
fluid wave
but the 1 sandstorm, i was not able to do one earthquake at the end
cursive linden
Lemme retry my shit
true locust
Arghhhhh
Better do nc blue and melony team
Lax is kinda sus
Since cynthia have super up next in tmp and his tm is slow down run
sacred badger
Hmmm
vernal condor
Where are the new ground submissions at 
sacred badger
Ill attempt tomorrow