Damage Challenge

[azure vine]

I think I got like 60k or something

It was triple as well

pause

[icy pendant]

last ranked honestly sucked for Gordie, I just used Silver DPS

[vernal condor]

You should literally be getting x10 that

maybe not on the ranked since it was no status

[icy pendant]

last ranked had too many things going on with Gordie's teambuilding constraints

[vernal condor]

but on regular 3v3, gordie non ex should still get ~600k

[azure vine]

Sorry mb

It wasn’t 60k

[vernal condor]

quite literally how

[icy pendant]

well rosa, that's how

[azure vine]

I did what I always did

I got like 5 syncs in

I don’t suck at dc I swear

[vernal condor]

You do if you got 40k only with 5 syncs

[icy pendant]

it was no status, you don't put rosa on that team

[azure vine]

nah but you get it

[icy pendant]

tbf you aren't building into Gordie, Cakewalk is completely not tapped into

[azure vine]

hm

What are the teams

Recommendations

For gordie

[glossy token]

yeah gordie sucked bc no status on rock but

otherwise

hes the move

[icy pendant]

the team you used probably works a lot better unranked, but ranked params hard countered Gordie

combined with cakewalk being either slow or just less accessible to set up

[azure vine]

alright

Tomorrow I’ll try it then

Also quick side question

[glossy token]

true, plus speed from the stage iirc

so even slower

[azure vine]

Is this good enough for the current one with 1/5 geeta?

cs2 geeta

[glossy token]

define good enough

[vernal condor]

well non ex koga gets more

[glossy token]

thats a personal metric

[azure vine]

like can I get way more (100k+ more)

[azure vine]

you’re joking?

[vernal condor]

No

[azure vine]

can u link

[icy pendant]

koga is unironically legit

[glossy token]

this is my run just now. doubled my prior score from last rerun and didnt get as many dodges as id like

[azure vine]

hah

I got more

[vernal condor]

no i can't link, it was random screenshots during the last 3 days

[azure vine]

(jk)

[glossy token]

if i cared enough to rerun it w/ changing to either ex koga, ex elesa, or a diff third unit instead of elesa (picked her for leg up + breathtaking for sync accel & finishing koga's spatk from elio's +4) i could go way higher

but i have a very thin roster

and not many resources

and uh

[azure vine]

I get it yeah

[glossy token]

also rolling for leg up 2 + t1 non hostile environment poison + mpr from koga + mpr on breathtaking is

Fucking Annoying

[azure vine]

I also am saving resources for the actual units

[glossy token]

so

i mean

the dc core is actual units

[azure vine]

But I did ex my bp barry

And morty (no other ghost options)

Just to get 1m in the ranked

[glossy token]

i dont think bianca is doing much of anything for you there beyond being an ex sync with supp

[azure vine]

Oh she lowers

[glossy token]

i dont know geetas kit super well but

[azure vine]

Def

[glossy token]

you would prob do much better with a different third unit

[azure vine]

Bianca has staggering, circle and def drop

[icy pendant]

she's a physical amplifier, circle multiplier, dodge hacker, and flincher

[glossy token]

well wait

are you

clicking her attack

[azure vine]

only 3 times

[glossy token]

ok

[azure vine]

And it’s pretty quick

so

[glossy token]

i was gonna say, once you're set up, you should not be clicking attack on anyone other than sing lmao

[azure vine]

sherlock

I’m kidding

[glossy token]

but at the end of the day, 1/5 exr geeta has basically no multipliers other than the 1.5 from poison zone

[azure vine]

I mean

You’re forgetting

Her tm

[glossy token]

ok

thats 1 use

no mpr at 1/5

not doing much for you

what i was trying to get to to maels point is

[azure vine]

dude it made my last b move do 150K

that’s like half

[glossy token]

again. ok. not saying it doesnt

[azure vine]

But yeah you’re right

[glossy token]

but koga could easily hit 400k if not more bc he has multipliers

[azure vine]

Mpr would do wonders

[glossy token]

mine cant, im not a good example in this case

but like

[icy pendant]

compared to 3/5 you lose 130% amplifiers and 50 sync bp

[glossy token]

tech ex for 1.5, blind spot, innate from poison

[azure vine]

Yeah no

I imagine he’s pretty good

but can’t be bothered like you said

[icy pendant]

only swap I could see would be bianca out for sc steven

[glossy token]

so if you want to go higher than your current score, you would need to invest in koga. your current score is fine, and if you dont want to spend the resources on him then yeah its good enough

if i didnt need the +spatk i would be using redlax for second supp ex sync and at least 3 seun syncs

even without max spatk that probably still breaks 400k tbh

but

point being

its ultimately more of a question of both your roster and your goals than it is any sort of objective metric

[azure vine]

I get it

[azure vine]

Don’t have

[glossy token]

and if it makes u feel better, these are my regular rock scores + my dc rock score. idr if i had no gordie for rock triple or if he was just at 1/5 (he is now, very newly, 2/5 lmao)

it was also before the good word of sync spam had reached me at least, i think it was a thing by then

bc ground single (which was after) has colress on the team so

[stoic crest]

What is the best option? I have stuff like red lax and champion blue. Please ping me

[glossy token]

are you willing to ex/role cake anything?

or would you prefer to just work with what youve got

oh or candy

[icy pendant]

with no candies, only ex: koga
with any investment: geeta

[stoic crest]

I don't want to candy unless I have to

[icy pendant]

unfortunately you are missing at least two options that clear Geeta by a substantial margin in SS Roxie and Oleana, unsure what Klara has cooked but she might be over the 1m mark as well

[azure vine]

actually

[icy pendant]

if you want 1m, you straight up have nothing that can do it at the levels of investment you currently have: Koga needs EX and Geeta needs 3/5

[azure vine]

I might wanna candy my geeta

Is there a better unit to do that right now?

[glossy token]

i mean

in what sense

[azure vine]

How much can u get

In dc

[glossy token]

we dont know your roster

[icy pendant]

geeta clears 1m but it's hard

[glossy token]

and it depends if all you care about is dc

[azure vine]

With 3/5?

[icy pendant]

yes

[azure vine]

no but I use her a lot

Especially in br

[glossy token]

thats fair

[icy pendant]

I almost got it, but it needs better gear or better rolls

[azure vine]

So it’d make my life better

[glossy token]

like, im not gonna tell you not to

[azure vine]

I only candy mfs

[glossy token]

but field candies are def harder to come by so

[azure vine]

So it’s logical for me

[glossy token]

just encouraging you to think it through

[azure vine]

Yeah

[stoic crest]

I can ex, I have like 600 5*

[azure vine]

I have 4 of them so it’s fine

[stoic crest]

Tickets

[glossy token]

then i would ex koga ariel

heres a grid

who do you have who can raise spatk?

[icy pendant]

you have Chase right? look at mael's 1m with him as a guide

[glossy token]

with one tm mpr you can max his evasion and crit, but he has no +spatk so either you need elio + a source of +2 or someone who can +6

[cloud timber]

yeah you need about 31 seconds minimum to fit that in

[glossy token]

oh pairing with chase is interesting

then you dont need tm mpr

bc chase also gives group evasion right?

[icy pendant]

chase is quite literally koga's perfect teammate

[glossy token]

yeah goddamn

only downside is that you need the t1 poison

[icy pendant]

dc blue moment

[glossy token]

or a miss from play rough

or else you get para from chase

[icy pendant]

oh koga's innate is poison innit

[glossy token]

yeah

sadly

[stoic crest]

Yes, 1/5

[glossy token]

ah only 1/5 chase?

hm

[normal parcel]

It was 0 RNG involved

[glossy token]

still probably the best option if hes also ex

[stoic crest]

He is

[icy pendant]

actually 1/5 is fine, 3/5 is where he gets good and mael's is only 2/5

[glossy token]

but no spatk mpr

so prob do koga chase elio?

ah

yeah i was thinking 2/5 for xspatk mpr

for +6

[feral hamlet]

???
I've literally been at it all day and couldn't figure it out

[glossy token]

im locked in for blue as my electric unit but chase is also very much on my list of wants at this point. all the pikas man... except mc pika dfgkjfdhkj

[stoic crest]

How many sp attack?

[cloud timber]

melony can top off special attack too

[normal parcel]

Do you use all Steven leers?

[glossy token]

elio can give +4 if you do his tm with 3 bars of energy, but you want the +4 from chase so you get 2 +evasion and dont need to grid for koga's tm mpr THIS IS WRONG

wait no

[icy pendant]

depending on how good your gear is, it's literally just melony > geeta with a single +10 seun b move at the end and max debuffing with steven

[glossy token]

no

im wrong

ignore that

[glossy token]

i thought she was spdef??

[cloud timber]

grid all ramped up

[icy pendant]

mael's clear uses dc blue as the third

[glossy token]

ahh

[feral hamlet]

Should I not? I just started attempts only doing 2 but I need to figure out how I got as far as I did last time where I got the last SEUP but time ran out

[normal parcel]

I used them

[glossy token]

amending what i said to be right: you do elio tm at 3 bars for +4, one xspatk, then one other tm gets you to +6 evasion

bc its any tm

[icy pendant]

speaking of 1m geeta, I just realized my b move didn't have seun on it, time to redo...

[glossy token]

so sync accel will count for it im 99% sure

[stoic crest]

Okay I'm confused

I'm working with 1 hand

Since I had surgery yesterday

[normal parcel]

Yes I have hs1 on Steven and adrenaline on melony

[stoic crest]

Koga, elio, chase right? How many TM of each pair?

[glossy token]

yes

ariel give me one second

[glossy token]

??

idk why thats reply to me might have meant for stack

[icy pendant]

it's a bad reply dw about it

[normal parcel]

Wait replied to wrong person

[glossy token]

all good, just confused me lol

[feral hamlet]

Then I don't know how you did it. Last sync comes out at 30-ish seconds which isn't enough time to set up another one and too much time for one attack, so the score is 730k

[stoic crest]

No problem please ping me

[normal parcel]

The trick is the inital rotation, I used tackle, leer, sing, sing, sing, sing, leer, leer, sync, mortal spin, then sing spam

You want to delay poison as mucg as you can

And grid for poisonous accelleration you will need that

Seun for last 2 syncs and for final b move

[feral hamlet]

Sing spam without status? I tried some of that for a bit but the outcome was always the same. Very unpredictable, but the same.

Not as much, but sure, let's see how that goes

[normal parcel]

You need to do it only once (it should last for 3 fails)

[icy pendant]

you put the enemy to sleep under that rotation yeah

so the sleep is the status

[normal parcel]

Sing will cancel dazzling gleam so it evens up I guess

[glossy token]

ok @stoic crest heres your team. grids do not matter for sides beyond enough bulk to not faint, but you're going for evasion so should be fine. your move order is:
koga poison fang [reset if no badly poison]
elio sing
chase xspatk
[marnie]
koga tm
elio tm [needs 3 bars; if not enough energy, sing instead and wait til next turn]
chase tm
[marnie]
koga tm
elio sing [see above]
[marnie]
elio sync [at this point, koga should be +6spatk, +6evasion, and +3 crit, so fully set up]
chase tm
[marnie]
elio sing spam until sync cd
chase sync
elio sing spam until 1 to sync
chase kanto circle
koga sync
elio sing spam into koga sync w/ reup of kanto circle if needed should timer run out

kanto circle gives you +20% to sync bc 2 kanto units (koga and chase)

[normal parcel]

If you can save 3/4 poison ticks is definitely worth

[glossy token]

so very worth it

[normal parcel]

I guess the only RNG involved is that sleep should last 3 sings

[glossy token]

you can choose to tank with chase or koga depending. koga will be +6 evasion, chase will be +3, but koga is also frailer if he does get hit

[normal parcel]

I guess 2 sings are enough if you have Hs1 instead of adrenaline for melony, Steven wants hs1

[glossy token]

and for ls, if you have hs1/adrenaline or vigi on either of the sides alter the moves accordingly. what i sent is for vigi/irrelevant ls

[feral hamlet]

The first sleep literally only blocks the first move. Then it's a frame-perfect to stop Dazzling Gleam

[normal parcel]

1st sleep should be your 3rd action

[icy pendant]

you can sleep earlier if you miss

[normal parcel]

Or 4th

No need to miss just use tackle and b leer, then another b leer and 4 sings

[feral hamlet]

I didn't have SEUP for the b move

[icy pendant]

got the 1m with second action sing miss because I'm attracted to missing on 60% accuracy

[normal parcel]

Alternatively you may try to cancel 1st play rough, sou it will be forced to use x defense 1st turn and I guess it will sit at full gauge for like 2 b leers

[glossy token]

unrelated to ariels... i did look at the sheet and

do i care enough to rerun with bp barry for another 100k

i dont think i do

i think the 100k comes from ex elesa actually

so

nvm

[stoic crest]

Don't I want to wait for chase to be attacked before I use sing?

[glossy token]

no

you need poison for kogas innate

so you need to poison on the t1 poison fang from him

that was why i noted reset if no badly poison

bc thats the status you're spamming off of rather than para, and if he misses the poison proc you either land the sing or get para from chase getting hit

[stoic crest]

Ah so the sing still does nothing

[glossy token]

in any other type dc, yes you would want para from chase

but

were in poison

and poison basically every single unit innate is for poison status 😔

[normal parcel]

Better losing seup for a sync than for b move

[stoic crest]

Gotcha thanks I'll give it a whirl

[glossy token]

o7 good luck, lmk how it turns out!

[icy pendant]

Geeta gets to sync 4 times: Steven gives her SEUN for the last two, and she provides her own SEUN for the B move

[normal parcel]

You want also to get +10 for b move

[stoic crest]

Not sure how well I'll do since I got one arm but I'm sure it will decent

[glossy token]

none of that should need to be super frame perfect for quadqueue

[feral hamlet]

That's the plan, yes. But getting to 4 is tough.

[icy pendant]

it really isn't though?

[normal parcel]

But don't save her tm for b move, use it for sync, and Steven seun for b move

[glossy token]

if you get the quadqueue from elio's sync into sing then cool but

should be fine either way

[normal parcel]

Her b move is slower than steven

And you want to queue both together

[icy pendant]

yeah the queueing concerns makes it justifiable to do that way, I had enough buffer at the end where it didn't matter that Geeta did everything

[normal parcel]

If you use Geeta tm opponent has a chance to queue a move inbeteeen

[icy pendant]

either way it sounds like I did it a bit wrong and it still didn't punish me

[feral hamlet]

I could try switching the order up so only SEUP is needed from Steven at the end

[feral hamlet]

So close. Ran out of gauge. But the setup was good

[icy pendant]

you gridded poisonous acceleration?

[feral hamlet]

Yes

[icy pendant]

oh, you just didn't get the b move off I see

[feral hamlet]

Yeah, just had to sit there the last 4 seconds

[icy pendant]

did you use one at some point?

[glossy token]

what are you using before that that costs gauge?

[icy pendant]

sing

[feral hamlet]

Sing lol

[glossy token]

yeah but

youre at 8

not 9

[icy pendant]

steven seup

[glossy token]

but does that cost gauge? it seems like that should give you plenty of time from queue sync -> steven seup -> bmove

[icy pendant]

no, you sync with empty gauge

[glossy token]

ah

[icy pendant]

the team runs out of gauge a little bit after geeta's third sync

[feral hamlet]

Doesn't help I'm missing these frame perfect turn denials early on, unless it actually doesn't matter

[icy pendant]

how much time was on the clock for you on geeta's 4th sync?

[feral hamlet]

Like 4 seconds?

[icy pendant]

yeah you need to find another second or so

[feral hamlet]

Just nailed the timing here. Something was different this time that made it work.

Maybe role EX and level 150 takes me to 1M, but I don't want to do that

[stoic crest]

About 400k

Which is probably the best I'll get since I have one hand that's not my dominant hand....

[delicate junco]

Sooo i have a few DC dillemas

I have enough spirit and 5* ups to 6* someone

I can go for Koga and assume SC Hilda is enough for tomorrow

or 6* bea for High Score

[glossy token]

thats pretty low for what i was expecting, but

it beats my score so

[icy pendant]

Hilda is… bad

[glossy token]

also yeah bleck i would not go for hilda

[delicate junco]

;c

[glossy token]

also by 68

what do you mean

[loud cedar]

is it nc silver gaming

[glossy token]

nc silver is strike/sprint

[delicate junco]

fixed

[icy pendant]

6* EX (shift+8 is asterisk)

[glossy token]

ahh

ty adept for being smarter than i am

[loud cedar]

oh hmm i dont have his ex role yet

[icy pendant]

NC Silver gaming is absolutely viable

[glossy token]

hes viable

[icy pendant]

it’s him or an invested alt Selene

[glossy token]

but im guessing its going to be alt selene > nc silver bc of sand

and better multipliers

[loud cedar]

nc silver ss diantha+spammer?

[delicate junco]

so should i ignore poison and invest in a rock?

[glossy token]

well

what is your current poison score

[icy pendant]

you lack other rock options tbh

[delicate junco]

0

i havent done the poison yet because i only have a poison striker rn

[glossy token]

because my thinking is overall minimal investment with someone like koga will get you about the same kind of score as heavy investment

[icy pendant]

Hilda’s setup leaves a lot to be desired because of how much she wants and how slowly she does it herself

[glossy token]

non-ex

[glossy token]

actually wait. this is way lower than it should be, because your koga should be doing 1.5x more per sync with being ex while mine isnt

[delicate junco]

poisons were notoriously scarce when i played

[glossy token]

adept can you help me troubleshoot that

i mean

bleck

[icy pendant]

uninvested Koga can still hit 500k optimally, you probably lack his primary teammates right?

[glossy token]

i have literally 7 lmao

so i feel you

[stoic crest]

I got 140k per sync

But only got 2 in

[delicate junco]

if those teammates include nc blue, then yes

[stoic crest]

And I can't hit button as fast

[icy pendant]

it’s Chase, actually

[delicate junco]

dont have him either

[glossy token]

you do have ex 5/5 plumeria who gets burst in, build up, inertia, and virulent toxin

[icy pendant]

yeah you just stick with Plumeria then and otherwise take the L on this one I think

[glossy token]

i dont know the math on if virulent toxin and timeloss to poison is worth it tho

[delicate junco]

doesnt matter its all i have

[stoic crest]

Oh you aren't asking me

[glossy token]

i think you just go inertia + build up/burst

[stoic crest]

My apologies

[delicate junco]

also for rock

[glossy token]

sorry lady ariel, i did reply to you i just

[delicate junco]

i do have a single strike candy

[glossy token]

was answering this first

[delicate junco]

if we really want to try classic blue or something

[glossy token]

classic blue will want his cake

[icy pendant]

one strike candy doesn’t do anything for you

[glossy token]

more than a candy

[icy pendant]

he also wants 3/5 for haymaker + soften up, so yeah

2/5 gives a single sync power tile and that’s about it

[glossy token]

yeah i think this is best plumeria grid

[delicate junco]

is it possible tat DC Nemona could help hilda

[glossy token]

no

hildas biggest weaknesses are two things

[icy pendant]

only with zone, not with buffing

[glossy token]

one, she was one of the first sc units which are in the same boat as seasonals in that they obsolete and never get revisited/buffed

[stoic crest]

Rock tomorrow wants NC silver right?

[icy pendant]

or Alt Selene

[stoic crest]

I'm guessing I'm set

[icy pendant]

yeah you’re in a good spot

[stoic crest]

I only got 1 million with silver at 3/5

I must have used bad pairs

[icy pendant]

I remember 2m was somewhat easy for me, but it’s a chance to revisit it and get that improvement

[stoic crest]

Since I had no paralysis or sing then

[glossy token]

two, she has mega tax on her sync, so her bp is way lower not to mention lack of innates. while she gets towering force by 3/5 as you have, she needs someone else to set it up bc you're not using diamond storm in dc unless its a final hit sort of thing

this grid gives you a single seun and 251 bp sync w double down 5 and towering force as mults

and there is no gridded mpr for either of her tms

so you need +2 atk from somewhere

anyway

back to lady ariel

adept, im not good at the damage calculator and im worse for calcing the entire fight

with 2 supp syncs (second of which [chase] has sprint exr) and ex koga, shouldnt that come out to 500k minimum?

that comp hitting only slightly more than my scuffed one did feels like ive missed something

[icy pendant]

oh I promise I’m worse at it when I’m chilling on the couch watching Thursday Night Football so going off of vibes only assuming Koga is set up properly and gear is swapped over then 500k seems like a reasonable benchmark

though on only one hand, I wouldn’t force anything too much

no amount of training tickets are worth physical discomfort imo

[glossy token]

it feels like it should be 1.5x my score (350ish) bc i have no ex koga and only one supp sync

thats true

mostly just wasnt sure how much was physical vs if i had missed smth in my planning

[stoic crest]

I probably need that sync but I can't move fast enough since I'm right handed and that arm can't move right now

[glossy token]

nw then, i just wanted to make sure i hadnt guided you poorly

bc if you Could get higher with a better plan, i would feel bad for being the reason why you didnt

[stoic crest]

I have like 20 seconds after second sync so I'm sure I could get a third with faster movement

[glossy token]

in that case, i hope your recovery is swift and uneventful <3 glad to help where i could!

[stoic crest]

Thank you I appreciate it

[fluid anvil]

SS Ingo is gonna boost SSRCs 3v3 ghost score a lot. He's got a bunch of stuff
-Will-o-wisp spam (can replace melony?)
-amazing TM for DC - Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by 2. Raises the Speed of all allied sync pairs by 4 stat ranks. Raises the evasiveness of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks.
-Befuddle 2
-max move that drops defences -2
-AoE flinch on max move
-ShY 5
-ghost zone and extension at 10/5
etc. .. only lacks support EX
pair them up with either NC blue or S.Gardenia

[glossy token]

is willowisp 1 bar?

thought it was 2

still prob worth given the overall value

nc blue you run into overlap with speed; gardenia means no way to para for willowisp spamming

so maybe the move is either someone like chase to lean into evasion more?

[thin wren]

2

[fluid anvil]

he can burn himself for status. burn isnt ideal, but you can choose to burn only 1 side (like was done on Fire DCs) and also between ShY5 and evasion you probably dodge a bunch to save time
willowisp is 2 bar, but people have already used 2-bar Oleana spam and gauge was manageable.
there's a lot of options, I'm pretty sure a perfect team & run with him can score well above the current max.
Since you can get as many syncs as nc blue +Melony (if not even 1 extra .. and he is sprint too), but with more spdef debuffs (and no need to manually use zone)

and nc blue + melony already got 4.3M at only -2 spdef

[cloud timber]

oleana has a lot more to maintain gauge between mgb and its mpr and pep rally 2

if you can settle for like 4 syncs it could be enough but that's 4 syncs

[fluid anvil]

Oleana had only 353 speed back then, he has 465 at 10/5, base speed affects gauge a lot
and with TM refresh and/or nc blue you would be at +6 speed anyway
also if using S.gardenia - she has ghost acceleration 3

[long silo]

Oh AoE Rock next huh.

I went the DPS route last time

[cloud timber]

oh yeah if you fit haunted accel 3 on it becomes way better

[pastel bone]

Anyone available

Trying to get 1M, so far got 5.9K

[rain copper]

Have you watched the documented clear

Oleana is the best option btw

[rose basalt]

how are u suppose to use oleanna for poison single

poison first or no

[long silo]

Max Move first turn to apply rebuff/poison, and setup power play

[rose basalt]

teammates?

[cloud timber]

looking like bianca rosa is best but i'm sure there's plenty of things that are also good

[rose basalt]

gonna try red and melony

[sacred badger]

oh my

rock multi soon

[vagrant ivy]

brother if these are your scores ur better off running EX gladion

you’d want to run EX’d Barry and kukui if you don’t have gordie

just ignore sand blaster although it is on his grid

get berserker 2 and crit infliction 9 so he becomes self sustainable

[cloud timber]

they said in the message after it was before they knew about sync spam strats

[vagrant ivy]

oh makes sense now

[rose basalt]

roxie just refuses to crit now for 3 games in a row

how unlucky do ihave to be

this is with multiple syncs

[cursive linden]

Is this NC Silver's best team for dc?

[rose basalt]

finally

[glad kraken]

Feel like that didn't go as well as it shouldve but hey, ill take it

[sacred badger]

damage challenge time~

[dusk plume]

not bad for a single target team in 3v3

[loud cedar]

sc steven or colress for nc silver

[warped gulch]

Can believe there is the day i need to use Chase

[loud cedar]

ooo nice score

[brazen dew]

Does olivia do better?

[crude sandal]

Anyone tried Alt. Elio + OG Elio?

[cunning rock]

USUM Elio's issue is that his B move takes waaaay too long

[glad kraken]

Yeah thats 20 seconds per use for 1 extra SMUN

Its not worth it over diantha

[cursive linden]

Requires:

• NC Silver TM MPR proc once
• Redlax TM MPR proc once
• Redlax TM use every sync AND last b move

[cursive linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651487042886172682/1291640974958923797/Chase_Headpats2.gif

[cursive mauve]

DPS spam W again

Rose is free 1.5+ mil for 3 3v3 DC types lol

[feral hamlet]

One day I'll pull him from the mix scout. He is in it, right?

[unique abyss]

1/5 can score more

Now that I have 3/5 I hope it'll be much higher

[unique abyss]

lol no, I forgot he doesn't have any grid tiles that boost his b move

[dusty solar]

yeah i got him from mix

[sacred badger]

Yay

[cloud timber]

close

this wasn't supposed to be worse

no infliction freebie needed, sand gives time for gauge

i'll have to check how many crits i missed

[calm horizon]

hello i must ask can elio be better here, yes he is slower than melony but if you get luckier with misses and can manage to get to last sync he boosts alola analysis the whole way

[cloud timber]

ok there

i thought it'd be really cool if you could get alt selene + double elio to work for maximum circle boosts

but people are saying it's way too slow

or were, before anyone had even tried

[misty forge]

Good enough first try

[warped gulch]

I tried Elio but very tough to reach final Sync ngl

[pallid girder]

So did Uselena outdmg NC Silver's best score (3M) yet?

[warped gulch]

Enemy just very fast

And Elio just inconsistent enough

[calm horizon]

i've been trying it too lol to no avail

[calm horizon]

I don't think I can blame people thinking that with the notorious 9 year b move but i'll see

[cloud timber]

yeah lol

[calm horizon]

Are you assuming a traditional actually use moves clear or using poison to sing spam btw

[warped gulch]

Ngl k want to try this

[cloud timber]

poison to sing

[warped gulch]

But poison really suck

[cloud timber]

might want to sleep two at the start to inflict single poison

[warped gulch]

Really suck, i even drop 1 Acid and not even close

[true locust]

Wat was the best silver team?

Since i forgot it🤣

[warped gulch]

Fk, the circle ran out before i Sync with her

[calm horizon]

this was genius btw I would've never thought of that lol

[crude sandal]

Still waiting for Alt. Elio/Alt. Selene/OG Elio clear

[long silo]

Are you talking about a vid

[crude sandal]

Either that or clear

[long silo]

So the pic above is not enough

[calm horizon]

i wasn't going to say it LOL

[vernal condor]

Bro has blindness

[warped gulch]

@calm horizon the thing you can try is debuff speed with Elio

Give him Mg2 too

He also can debuff SpDef too so less Acid

Debuff enemy from +2 -> 0 already a win

Give you more time later

[long silo]

I'm sorry I was confused so I need to ask lol

[toxic sleet]

cant get olivia to do 1m so ig I'll settle with this lol

[fiery rose]

I'm gonna be resorting to ss diantha lmao

Tried aeroblue, didn't work out

He got like 700k with elio/red

A fourth blue sync would've cleared 1m but that'd have needed a lot more sync accel or luck

[true locust]

Interesting if diantha was 10/5 wat score would be.

[fluid anvil]

wow these are pretty low
I thought like 4M+ with Rock Selene hmm

[true locust]

Im not lv up selene for it

So not me haha

[crude sandal]

Nah, I just didn't notice it

[vernal condor]

That's what Im saying

[crude sandal]

Because I didn't bother checking it

[misty forge]

"maybe I could try getting to 2 millions"

36 resets before a single mpr2 proc

Rofl

Yeah I'll keep my 1.8

[sullen zephyr]

Is this the best grid for ss diantha? Seems pretty straight forward

[vast glade]

Took some resets but a good result since Silver isn't EXR

[vapid kernel]

Was there a f2p olivia 1M

Anyone

[cloud timber]

nope

[vapid kernel]

[cloud timber]

i crossed it only with 3/5 exr paulo and colress

[warped gulch]

Wait, you can just use V Mallow @calm horizon

Instead of Elio

[calm horizon]

how do you even think of this stuff LMAO

[cloud timber]

without paulo you pass up role compressing maxing inertia and sand blaster and attack

[warped gulch]

But she should be better bc no passive

[cloud timber]

and providing gauge for spam w/o infliction freebie

[warped gulch]

And gauge shouldn’t be a problem too

[calm horizon]

I do have her so I'll give her a shot

ngl I was mere seconds away from uploading my two clears

[vernal condor]

How so

[warped gulch]

Enemy just too fast in general

[vernal condor]

No MGA, only circle MG2 from Selene

Ah

[vernal condor]

That's what the DC brainrot does to you

The same way I used DC Blue with Chase

Except Mallow is a support so it's even better

[vapid kernel]

So close hm

[vernal condor]

Replace Rosa with Melony I beg you

Stop using Rosa

She's not good

[old valve]

Not sure how I want to approach this

I see a lot of people using SS Diantha but mine is 1/5 so that probably won't work out...

[vernal condor]

Gordie gaming

[old valve]

And I doubt my 2/5 EX Emmet is going to do me many favours either so

[vapid kernel]

I got evasion buffs

[vernal condor]

[vapid kernel]

Plus with Melony i need to sacrifice Trip Up 1 for Lithic Acceleration

[vernal condor]

No??? You really shouldn't need that

[vapid kernel]

Shes so fking slow tho

Well leme try ok

[old valve]

Maybe I should just get Olivia EX

[vernal condor]

No

Olivia isnt good for this

There's a reason you havent seen her lmao

[old valve]

What about this

[vernal condor]

That uses Paulo

If you have Paulo then sure

[old valve]

I have paulo

[vernal condor]

Mind you, that's a 3 EX R paulo

[old valve]

He's 1/5 EXR atm but like

What else am I going to do with sprint candy

[vernal condor]

Idk if the grid gives anything important

[old valve]

I'll check

[vernal condor]

@cloud timber any insight on if 3/5 Paulo is necessary with olivia

[cloud timber]

losing pep rally is bad so you'll have to fill in the missing speed buffs another way

[old valve]

Sand Blaster 9, Brawn Sync 5, and it caps his offenses solo

[cloud timber]

i use sharp entry and the max rockfall tile as well

[old valve]

Oh no

I only have 1 sprint candy

DC ain't worth using an omni candy on lol

[cloud timber]

yeah don't

i reached 5 total syncs with sand up for all of olivia's 4

you'll be settling for something less than that without 3/5 paulo

[old valve]

Also what's the speed buffing used for? I figured that colress was one with the free move next thing set up with a comp like that lol

[cloud timber]

inertia and twave spam

[old valve]

Oh right inertia

[cloud timber]

you can afford to avoid infliction freebie and save time

which compensates for sand being slow

[old valve]

Oh neat

[vapid kernel]

THX MAELMC BAE

[calm horizon]

ok ngl I def am having gauge issues 😭

2 bar is not great

[warped gulch]

I assume very late right ?

[calm horizon]

yeah

[warped gulch]

Bc that the only time enemy slow down

[cloud timber]

+6 speed and mga were both pretty essential to maintaining gauge even with fast enemy under sand for my run

[vapid kernel]

I like how Quaggles is only here cus its Selene and Elio time

[old valve]

I'll seeeee what I can do with 1/5 paulo then

Here's hoping it works out to something good lol

[warped gulch]

I can give it a try, i have speed gear so i can do it

[calm horizon]

I only gain interest in DC when I feel like I could compete with a top score with my favs

yeah I have 100 spa but no speed on my gear lol

[vapid kernel]

Aim for 600K using him and Olivia EX if u dont hv anything else

[vapid kernel]

I think thts like minimum

[warped gulch]

I think i’ll use this just bc speed

[calm horizon]

sheesh

[old valve]

I never thought I'd be EXing Olivia in 2024

This damage challenge shit kinda crazy

[vapid kernel]

Ya well Rock sucks

And shes still due for a grid expansion

[old valve]

Correct!

Especially mine

...actually wait hold on

[fluid anvil]

I didnt realize Rock is so ass STILL
they got Diantha SA, NC silver this year and Elio+Selene like 2-3 months ago
Selene is supposed to be a big AoE sync nuker

[old valve]

If I 3/5'd my (non EXR'd) Emmet would he outdamage Olivia

[vapid kernel]

Oh idk

What myltipliers

[old valve]

Sand Blaster 5 with Soften Up 1 and Head Start 1 on the side it looks like

[vapid kernel]

He has no multipliers except Sand Blaster 5

Hes worse

[old valve]

Dang

Truly the embodiment of

Maybe he'd deal some amount more if I EXR'd him too but like. That ain't worth it

[warped gulch]

Ok i can maintain gauge until the end

[cloud timber]

can still try rock slide spam under sand

[warped gulch]

Just dodge like 0 atk

[calm horizon]

whatever clear I could muster up probably will never be better than yours cause I only have a 2/5 chase so no circle extension

it'll just wear off by the end

[vernal condor]

Ikr that sucks

I'm 3/5 my Chase asap lmao

[calm horizon]

he's coming up with all the ideas so realistically he's the one that deserves the score lol

i have no complaints!

[warped gulch]

I can reach final Sync easily , but double circle eat too much time

@calm horizon

[vapid kernel]

Really consideting tht

My support candy comes soon

[warped gulch]

I went back with debuff speed route

[vernal condor]

Bro is cooking

So you do double circle?

[warped gulch]

Ofc

I just so lucky with ton of para lol

[crude sandal]

I swear, if we get rock 3v3 with physical damage hampered, I'm rioting

[warped gulch]

Mallow problem is you need to use Chase Tm

Which eat too much Circle time

[calm horizon]

sheeesh he's insane

glad to see 3m was possible I wanted to see it done so badly lol

[fluid anvil]

the max score last time was ~3,5-3,6M

[pallid girder]

Whats wrong with USelene to break NC Silvers score? Havent check her kits in a while.

[warped gulch]

Tbf she is a Striker/Tech

Not a Tech/Striker

https://youtu.be/9QnmanUmsSg

And my Gears literally just stats

[vast glade]

Chase MVP

I don't regret pulling for him nor candying him to 5/5

Best Boy

[olive wraith]

gear is 85 sp.atk + 6%

[wise mulch]

Didn't know Selene can hit this much, amazing

[cloud timber]

i am curious now as to how emmet fares as dps, prob with like ingo and rock zoner

or paulo would still be better

[rapid sparrow]

I did this last time, but i genuinely don't remember what I did. Someone help me out?

[proud minnow]

I'd guess you use Red's TM on Silver's B-Move

[rapid sparrow]

Did I just spam Stone Edge

[rapid sparrow]

Ye

[proud minnow]

but it's very dependant on move order

[rapid sparrow]

But what did I do in between

[proud minnow]

not sure how I should explain that

but I know it's a damage rush clear

[warped gulch]

Look like my old run

[rapid sparrow]

Do you have that recorded?

I genuinely remember nothing

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/OBQ_GgrdhoA?si=3lvpUT6WgRPbOfwp

Yeah

[olive wraith]

I guess 10/5 Diantha and 5/5 Red are very helpful.(not me)

[rapid sparrow]

[proud minnow]

bruh

[warped gulch]

10/5

[pallid girder]

So its prob the best team this time.

[rapid sparrow]

That's so tight
Did I really do that last time

I am my own imposter

[warped gulch]

That wasn’t that tight tho

Bc only rng is fk tm mpr

If i do it again, it should be easier bc my Red is EXR now

[rapid sparrow]

Ehhhhh

I am lazy

[vapid kernel]

Peak

Nahh real peak is 1.2M per calc but im done here

[fluid anvil]

so NC silver still beats Selene ?
she needs 10/5

[cloud timber]

she looked promsing but nc silver still has stuff that i don't really get

[vapid kernel]

https://youtu.be/sO8lU_EUoc4?si=kvqABAz_V7fSF8Kj

[cloud timber]

guaranteed aoe flinch every sync helps too much vs speed buffed opps ig

[vapid kernel]

The speed buffs are only countered by SS Diantha or the flinch thing

Like its a middle finger to ppl trying SS brock ex

[cloud timber]

another needing pal serena or oleana moment

for what's still inevitably low output

[true locust]

Its vokzx team

Off course he have all 10/5:) not playing game🤣

[vagrant ivy]

meh

1m is 1m

[crude sandal]

Why Goride

[vagrant ivy]

my Olivia not ex

[fluid anvil]

I look forward to 3v3 ghost, SS Ingo evasion/will-o-wisp spam etc. shenanigans can be interesting
hopefully VoK has 10/5 SS Ingo

[true locust]

Dont worry he have all 10/5🫢

[cloud timber]

i feel like gordie is better than olivia without 3/5 exr paulo anyway

at equal investment at ex

[vagrant ivy]

ss diantha is there for zone pretty much

and so I don’t have to give up scorching sync for TM mpr

[loud cedar]

ok i tried

[cloud timber]

zone is all you need to be worth a slot sometimes

[loud cedar]

ok nc silver is annoying

with the sandstorm

[vapid kernel]

Sandstorm and his annoying voice lines yes

[normal parcel]

What's the best team

[vernal condor]

so far it's diantha silver red

[vernal condor]

.

[normal parcel]

So DPS?

[pallid girder]

10/5 Diantha btw.

[loud cedar]

fuck this im dpsing with rose and nc silver

[cloud timber]

seems like it's have to be diantha b move dps

[normal parcel]

Best not forbidden team?

[cloud timber]

no animation skipping is all we can really tell

[vapid kernel]

Whats a FORBIDDEN team

[pallid girder]

I mean its prob the same team, and just without the 10/5 part (but still 5/5)

[cloud timber]

dunno why it wouldn't be the same team yeah

though pykuo did reach 3m with u selene and chase and something maybe elio

[vernal condor]

Without 10/5, Diantha loses zone on entry and PMUN stacks

[cloud timber]

with heavy rng

[vernal condor]

I think the team works without 10/5 diantha but isn't quite as effective

[pallid girder]

The same guy reached 3.5M last time. Although he didnt show the team last time, we didnt have Uselene last time too.

[vernal condor]

I think he probably has great gears too

while pykuo not really, with selene

[true locust]

He have 40%

[prisma quail]

I love actually playing the game, and not status/sync spam

[vernal condor]

lol 40% damage increase means without it they only get 2.8m

So selene is better

[true locust]

I did 2,3m no gear boost🤣

[loud cedar]

lol

i should just use ss diantha why did i use rose

[true locust]

Selene is better off course but need alot rng

[pallid girder]

Iirc Rose did 1M with Rock Slide DPS spam last time.

[vernal condor]

the real question is why did you use steven

[prisma quail]

Someone on reddit did work with the elephant

[loud cedar]

oh

dont have bianca

[warped gulch]

40%

Meanwhile my gears is: here 100 SpA

[vernal condor]

Yeah

So Selene is better

[pallid girder]

Well we still havent seen 10/5 USelene.

[true locust]

Hehe🤣

[warped gulch]

Bc she isn’t exist yet

But if she was, who even invested in her

[true locust]

Voktz

I now who🫢

[vagrant ivy]

how many yellow candies does bro have

[pallid girder]

Just buy candy pack every 20 days but still pull everything to 5/5 with gems only.

[cursive linden]

[thin wren]

what's the top comp rn

[normal parcel]

aWhaled units, or mix units

Is 2/5 rose Better than 1/5 diantha? I ended up getting him 2/5 (while I had to pity for poppy)

I guess I can get rose to 3/5 if is really worth

[vernal condor]

Can hot to the touch proc please

[vernal condor]

Gordie Melony Steven has a shot at 1.5m but the run sucks a lot so I'm not doing that

I got 1.3m, that's good enough

[vagrant ivy]

wanted some data for him vs 3v3

honestly dc nemona is better on her own

[vernal condor]

Gladion never is good

[vagrant ivy]

not by much, mind you

[vagrant ivy]

I’m testing him relative to poison trap stall since both of these strategies are poor but can be applied to any stage

so they would in theory require less investment for new players

than EX(R)ing a specific tech or striker

tl;dr: he is supposed to be bad

as with ST, a clear difference is observed

[vapid kernel]

Sakmona

I feel like they shud nullify poison sandstorm damage cus it feels stupid lmao but only if they also nullify time wasted for their animation

[vagrant ivy]

tbh they have mitig 9 for poison damage field and trap I think

[vapid kernel]

Doesnt matter

[vagrant ivy]

well what modern battle worth its money doesn’t have mitigation 9 for everything

if they had no mitigation poison stall Strats would be in the mid 200k probably

perhaps higher

you can see why they wouldn’t have wanted that

[woven fjord]

And done.

[acoustic chasm]

Final move was Stone Edge because no gauges

[feral hamlet]

First try. There's too much going on. I don't know what I'm doing

[rare apex]

damage

[plain surge]

Well, at least the usual trick works for 1M

[vapid kernel]

Still feels cringe to me that NC Silver scores less than Morty on ghost 3v3 on a f2p team

[icy pendant]

that is probably incorrect

Dana + Colress is close enough to my Redlax Steven core and that hit 2m

[dense gate]

Give Roark his EX, DeNA

[vernal condor]

Replace chase by sonia and that's a better team lol

[dense gate]

I don’t have her EX

[vernal condor]

ok fair

[dense gate]

Soon though as long as I remember lol

[vapid kernel]

I need to start practice using Sonia indeed

[vapid kernel]

Is Sonia Melony Olivia or NC Blue Melony Olivia bettet

[vernal condor]

nc blue ofc

[vapid kernel]

I got such a bad score o NC Blue oliv

[vernal condor]

Because olivia sucks

use gordie

[vapid kernel]

OG brock solo soon

[feral hamlet]

Well, at least I hit 1M this time around. Less than half of what's purported but wtv

[fluid wave]

Missed last 2 crit syncs... Can't believe she does less than Geeta's nonsync dmg even with seun.

[sacred flower]

which one yields better results, NC Silver 3/5 or Alt Selene 3/5?

[misty forge]

Sand always works against you in DC

[vapid kernel]

Depends on your teammates i think

Check the DC excel

To find out

[fallen trail]

first real try, made some mistakes but i like this team

[vapid kernel]

Rose stonks increasing

[vast glade]

Not bad for an investment I wasn't really planning. No more candy for Selene though

Also Chase Best Boy

[dry whale]

Completely forgot how this run went and had to relearn it. A happy accident when I missed clicked and used Diantha sync revealed an alternative path to my original run.

I know how to get that final buffed sync in and the follow-up buffed B move but don't know if I want to grind it out.

https://youtu.be/SSphriYdT88

[true locust]

Aha so you buff each sync and b move whit lax tmp?

[dry whale]

No

[true locust]

Like no you did it this way🤣

[dry whale]

No, Silver second sync is not buffed

[glad kraken]

God, propelling move is getting on my nerves

[true locust]

Hmm ok

[dense gate]

What’s the lineup for super sparring later this month? I don’t see it in the pins

[cursive linden]

Oh hell yeah

NC Silver's B Move with Paulo's Accelrock is nice

[vapid kernel]

Fairy weak triple
Grass weak single
Ice weak triple

[dense gate]

Thanks!

[fluid wave]

Finally gonna get to ex my bp Valerie then

[cloud timber]

was it like no rule fairy, attack nerf grass, and phys nerf ice

or did i mix up the first two

[vapid kernel]

Ye more or less

[vernal condor]

It's in the doc

[fluid wave]

So paralysis spamming(bp barry) brings in 2 syncs lower than the fastest singing spammer melony Lapras?

[cloud timber]

1-2

[fluid wave]

I had a test run with melony and Calem w Olivia and it managed to bring in six syncs total and I was like 😭

So this is what it feels like to sing spam

Feels so good

[cloud timber]

bp barry/colress reach a maximum of 6 and melony reaches a maximum of 8

[fluid wave]

Too bad can't ever use melony

[fluid wave]

6 is crazy for barry. The main dmger must lit have only ONE buffing turn then..

4 for Olivia this time w barry(ofc she takes hella long time buffing herself to max)

[cloud timber]

nah i remember hitting it a bunch of times pre-melony, you get a bit more setup time than that

but very typically you're settling for at least one less sync

[fluid wave]

Still, feels amazing.

Feels bad not having NC blue

[cloud timber]

might require single target no speed buff to not rely on para proc rng

[fluid wave]

To ever use melony

[cloud timber]

sonia still helps a lot

[fluid wave]

....

[cloud timber]

worst case you can run bp barry/colress on top of melony

[fluid wave]

I think this game loves to piss me off literally by not giving me all DC useful units. Sonia still hasn't come home

[cloud timber]

or some other para option that helps with setup with elio if you have him

[fluid wave]

Colress also

I just pulled a 5 star ticket today though

Nate

Bwehh

[cloud timber]

it's not worth worrying about or trying to rush, just complete your daily stuff and work with what you currently have

being unable to control your worrying is exactly how gacha games hook you into spending

[fluid wave]

Yeah for now I can only rely on bp barry. He brings in the best result

[cloud timber]

spending is fine if you have a set amount of disposable income but a lot of people won't

[fluid wave]

Nah I don't think I will spend money to get ANY unlimited gen pools

There is one for colress going on now though

I don't have THAT much urge yet

But I might like some ppl who've said after 2 years just not coming home they just resorted to paid selects

Cause that's a long time

Usually 2 years you should have at least 1 of all

[cloud timber]

yeah even if you go that route it's still never worth paying for anything already available in ticket pools

already can be easy to get 5/5 on nearly everything in ticket pools as f2p

should you be completing everything over a long period of time

[summer shadow]

i wish dc nemona was good

[teal haven]

Is a 3/5 NCsilver gonna break 1.25m without diantha or Paulo (or chase/redlax :( )

[icy pendant]

should be able to

[teal haven]

What are most people getting? I barely cracked 1.2 with a near perfect

...I guess if I got insane skill gear I could get like 1.4 but ehhh

[copper otter]

Someone got 2 mil iirc?

[vernal condor]

I mean the doc has different Silver clears...

[copper otter]

O

[pallid girder]

Less ppl have Alt Selena so less ppl try hard on her.
Currently NC Silver holds the better score but some ppl predict that Alt Selene actually can hit higher in theory.

[cloud timber]

possible but current top results feel convincing to me that silver is better

but with having neither there's just little to go off of

[crude sandal]

A WTZ unit being used is extremely surprising

Prolly because Silver has guaranteed flinch on his B Move

And Alt. Selene not scoring higher than Silver is the biggest surprise for me

[thick stump]

jeez this took all day

blue sync, elio sync, then 4 selene sync

needs good impatient procs on elio and good non-propelling move procs lol

[brazen escarp]

Can elio colress and a physical attacker 1/5 be good enough for damage Challenge

[cloud timber]

the only proper judge of "good enough" is you and that can mean very many different things

so yes

it can be

[pallid girder]

Btw I found that if you're using Elio, always pick speed debuff and try debuff speed for 2 turns.
As long as you can nulify the opponents speed buff it's actually easier to get in 6 syncs even tho you waste 2 turns on Sparkling Aria.

[cloud timber]

ye looking to debuff to +0 speed seems to be the right call in general if you can get that done in two turns

don't know if anyone's tested exactly at what point it wouldn't be worth it

but given 2 icy winds helping on ice triple and that having a longer anim than sparkling aria that range is safe

[brazen escarp]

Why is that

[cloud timber]

if they're at +2 and you put them at 0 it saves time overall

[brazen escarp]

Do I need to use colress with elio?

[cloud timber]

happens to have worked in the past

[brazen escarp]

Or is just elio fine?

[cloud timber]

you can use any paralyzer in the game with elio

[brazen escarp]

Ok

I should only be syncing right

[cloud timber]

yeah

[brazen escarp]

When I'm trying to do Dmg challenge

Ok

[cloud timber]

there's exceptions out there but they're rare and you might not see them at all

[brazen escarp]

Now the problem is that for rock none of the units I have can raise their own crit

And the other two slots are taken by elio and colress

[cloud timber]

again you don't have to stick to colress, if there's any para user that can raise crit you can fit that in fine

[brazen escarp]

That's the thing I have none

And my colress is only 1/5 so I can't spam para

So would it be better to replace elio with crit buffer or have no crits?

[cloud timber]

he's not very important below 3/5

[brazen escarp]

Who ?

Colress?

[cloud timber]

colress

defense debuffs matter less than you may expect

[brazen escarp]

Well here im using for para and debuff defense

[cloud timber]

especially when it's coming at the cost of not having crit rate

[brazen escarp]

But the other para don't have crit buff

[cloud timber]

don't need to worry about using elio either, just use bp barry and another support

[brazen escarp]

But I don't have bp Barry, although I have a ticket

But I don't think he would be much better at 1/5 either

[cloud timber]

you won't be getting much out of damage challenge at all by this point

[brazen escarp]

Wait what if I just replace colress with Barry and keep elio

I just checked Barry he can buff crit

[cloud timber]

bp barry might be the worst way to buff crit out there lol

has to go through absorb and deal with attack trap 4

[brazen escarp]

I just want some rewards, so I can eventually work towards DC pairs

[brazen escarp]

Well then can any status effects work to prevent sleep?

[cloud timber]

burn and poison are options

they're far slower though

[brazen escarp]

Ok

Alr

Lemme just try without crit ig

[cloud timber]

which rock damage dealer are you using though

[brazen escarp]

Better than no crit?

[brazen escarp]

Roark ;-;

And rampardos

[cloud timber]

roark can grid sharp entry 1 so you only need to buff +2 crit

[brazen escarp]

Hmm

Even then how do I get that +2 crit

What is chance of crit with +0?

[cloud timber]

6.25%, 1/16

it'll make bp barry crit buffing way less worse if you still end up resorting to that

[brazen escarp]

Might be my only option

Cuz I don't have any other way to para and crit buff

And without sing spam my Dmg with probably be much lower anywyas

[brazen escarp]

Ok

[cloud timber]

oh i missed that roark gets double down so you can't fit in his sync multipliers and sharp entry on the same grid

you have main character and torchic right

[pallid girder]

Cannot exchange even 1 BP Surge right now?

[cloud timber]

^

[brazen escarp]

I can do the story till that point

[brazen escarp]

Is he better than bp Barry?

[cloud timber]

with elio yeah

[pallid girder]

He has team crit.

[brazen escarp]

What chapter in the story do u get it?

[cloud timber]

dunno

[brazen escarp]

Ok

Lemme check

Probably the best grid for roark in DC right?

[cloud timber]

yeah

you accidentally clicked a tile in the top right

[brazen escarp]

Oh that mb

I was using the one in the sync grid list as a base and i forgot to unselect that

[brazen escarp]

Ok thanks

[brazen escarp]

Does +10 attack make much difference?

[cloud timber]

you want whatever you can reach

you're so low on resources that idk if you can even afford to max out grid lol

but if you can then you grab whatever attack is there

[brazen escarp]

I have around 200k sync orbs so I think I don't have to worry about grids for a while

I just checked it seems that -6 def seems to double the Dmg while crit only does 1.5x

With critical strike two 1.7x

[cloud timber]

don't think you accounted for trained body 5

[brazen escarp]

Oh

[cloud timber]

everything has 50% mitigation to all stat debuffs

[brazen escarp]

I didn't know what that did

[cloud timber]

in damage challenge

[vagrant ivy]

funnily enough Roark would do 1m if he got an EX

[brazen escarp]

That'd be nice

But from what the Dmg numbers are saying it seems he would only do 35k on his 4th sync

[vagrant ivy]

but it’d be very close

[brazen escarp]

(the 5th sync overall)