#Damage Challenge

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craggy pond
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and i thought my 5% gears were pretty decent lol

misty forge
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5% is fine

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Remember you gotta always align stats and %s

craggy pond
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true true

misty forge
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A 60 spa +9% is probably as good as a 80 spa +5%

craggy pond
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is there like a guide for how much atk/spatk increase is equivalent to 1%

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oh right

misty forge
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Not at all

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Because every unit is different

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Some units have base 400 atk

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Others 600

craggy pond
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units with lower atk/spatk benefit more from direct increase ?

misty forge
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So the value of extra 15-20 atk change

craggy pond
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and vice versa?

craggy pond
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neat i see

misty forge
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An extra 20 atk on Geeta isn't the same as extra 20 spa on Anni N

crude sandal
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How does it affect transforming units?

misty forge
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I think gear is flat added at the end?

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Lemme check what pomatool says

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No ok

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They get the transformation buff

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+100 spa on lussa becomes +120 spa on transformation

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In general my thought process behind gear is that 60 or lower offences is shit unless it's something like

  • low AF atk/spa on mostly spec/Phys archetypes with excellent skills
  • extremely specific to a unit that doesn't use that stat much (example: my +10% shower power kalos 40 atk bracelet for ncerena)
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65 is fine if the skills are REALLY REALLY good

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70-75 are basically just as good as 80 in most cases, especially if they get 20-30 hp and/or Def

vapid kernel
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Does anyone know how i can calculate accurate sync damage numbers

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Im doing this for Morty and the numbers are way too high (178271-199201 but actual values are like 100000)

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Do i need to plug in defense and HP from each enemy

rain copper
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Yes

vapid kernel
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Ok defense is always 83?

thick stump
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is anni N my best bet for bede lol

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having trouble hitting 1 mil with him

misty forge
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If he's 3/5 it should be easy

vapid kernel
vagrant ivy
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anni n hitting 1m by the skin of his teeth

thick stump
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probably gear issue since my pin doesnt have speed lol

cloud timber
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hm

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don't think i had speed on my gear

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should be hitting 5 syncs with a wide enough margin that you can throw in a bunch of blue flares

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so idk if you're trying to go for 6 which you can't

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the gauge just does not exist for that

thick stump
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lemme watch your vid

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maybe my turn order is just bad

vagrant ivy
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the vid only does 3 syncs

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but with blue flare spam in between

cloud timber
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5 total syncs, 3 with anni n

vagrant ivy
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and it got a play rough para

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yeah this is why sync quality is important

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if you won’t be getting a fourth sync in with 10s on the clock why not use that 10s for a blue flare so your 3rd sync does more

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at least that’s my mindset

thick stump
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oh you start using blue flares after anni n syncs

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i didnt do that lol

cloud timber
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yeah setting debuffs as soon as healthy superhit seun is out of the way

vapid kernel
# rain copper Yes

Ok i think im close to figuring it out

If i want to determine Morty sync after BP Barry EX sync and Event Victor sync, should i write 3 sync buffs or 4 sync buffs in the calculator?

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Because before he syncs its 3 buffs but after it wud become 4...

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And the number that i get from 4 is more accurate

true locust
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Damage rolls skill gear bonus can make some diffrence

toxic sleet
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Ill take these

candid nexus
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setup?

pearl dawn
lapis yarrow
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Where can I improve?

crude sandal
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Definitely fire because that score with Gloria is way too low

misty forge
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Gloria 4/5 can definitely grab 1mil almost blindfolded

crude sandal
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Replace Bianca

misty forge
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Idk Bianca worked fine for me

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Just need to know when to flinch

lapis yarrow
delicate star
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who are the best units paired with SSDiantha in the challenge?

crude sandal
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SC Steven and Oleana. Aaron can be subbed for Oleana if you don't have her

delicate star
crude sandal
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You can do Aaron + SSA Cynthia and Aaron will spam Defense Order

icy pendant
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Get Erika out of that team

delicate star
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o this wasn't my actual team lol

misty forge
delicate star
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what score should I aim with this team?

misty forge
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This is with 1/5 Gloria btw

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With 4/5 her damage should be easily into 1.5mil

hollow wadi
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How would I improve this score? Got a ping at like 4 am saying it was bad

misty forge
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What's lance even doing there

hollow wadi
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Instantly debuffs defense

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My only other options are like

crude sandal
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He's useless

misty forge
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So 1 giga impact and dip

hollow wadi
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Kiawe and 1/5 colress

misty forge
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I'd bring sun instead

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It's more than -6 Def I'm pretty sure

hollow wadi
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Isn’t sun 1.5?

crude sandal
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Yes

hollow wadi
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Wait how much is -6 def then

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Cuz I thought it was like the main games where it’s 4x

misty forge
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Not at all

crude sandal
icy pendant
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It’s 2x against mitigation 0, but we have mitigation 8 right?

crude sandal
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8 is only for status

delicate star
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do I have to get lucky with Aaron's defend order move gauge refreshes?

icy pendant
crude sandal
icy pendant
vapid kernel
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@vernal condor you think SS CYrus Chase and Red can surprass your NC Sserena dark score

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i just calculated that in theory he can do 4M

brisk shale
vernal condor
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you get 6 syncs with that ?

brisk shale
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And additive with attack/sp.atk

vapid kernel
thin wren
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??dark void doesn't consume seun I think

vapid kernel
thin wren
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it's a status move

vapid kernel
vapid kernel
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if dark void doesnt consume SEUP then i can bring Volo instead

thin wren
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a rebuffer would be better than redlax there imo. Or someone else who buffs syncs

vapid kernel
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although i cant grid Cyrus for max nuke + SE Up

thin wren
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oh right volo

thin wren
vapid kernel
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ok actually possible

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i drop Bad Break 1 and do SE node

vernal condor
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you're never proccing super prep tho

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it's only when the move is successful lol

thin wren
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oh oof

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nvm

vapid kernel
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Oh yes

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i keep Red and keep the 4M calc then

true locust
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Dark void is status move no damage

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So not consume nothing

brazen escarp
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What am I supposed to do

vapid kernel
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What are you doing

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LOl

vapid kernel
candid nexus
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LOL

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bro playing on impossible

crude sandal
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Also VoKzx finally revealed themselves now

brazen escarp
brazen escarp
crude sandal
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Through the summons

brazen escarp
crude sandal
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Although RIP you

brazen escarp
crude sandal
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?

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Morty is a 5 star

brazen escarp
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Ok

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Yea then no chance

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Maybe I can do the johto villain event

brazen escarp
vapid kernel
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ok @vernal condor i recalced and i think SS Cyrus 3/5 EXR peak is 3.1M

vapid kernel
crude sandal
vernal condor
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you're clearly a beginner, there isn't much you can do for now

brazen escarp
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ig i will just get the 300 gems from each and dip

brazen escarp
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how do people do this gahdamn

crude sandal
brazen escarp
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is there any decent f2p ghost unit?

vapid kernel
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no

brazen escarp
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:(

vernal condor
vapid kernel
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if you want those numbers, no

vernal condor
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dark void isn't that fast of a spam

brazen escarp
vernal condor
vapid kernel
brazen escarp
crude sandal
vapid kernel
devout sphinx
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there honestly should be an f2p tier list

vernal condor
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depends on your definition of f2p

brazen escarp
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u dont need to spend gems

vernal condor
brazen escarp
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or general pool 3 and 4* ig

vernal condor
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he's a general 5*

brazen escarp
crude sandal
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Our general pool ghost units are mostly 5 stars

brazen escarp
brazen escarp
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i cant use him for this dmg challenge tho

crude sandal
brazen escarp
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any decent f2p debuffing unit?

copper otter
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@brazen escarp unironically, you can toxic stall and get 100k points

brazen escarp
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btw how could is kukui and lycanroc

copper otter
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That is a legit strat

brazen escarp
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that might be my only option

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i want the tickets

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cuz why not

crude sandal
copper otter
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What top score rn?

plush palm
copper otter
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10 mil?

brazen escarp
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and basically 0 in everything else

devout sphinx
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speaking of ghosts, how about flying. Any F2P options?

copper otter
hollow wadi
brazen escarp
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blue
source: trust me bro

copper otter
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Blue actually can

plush palm
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lodge skyla actually hits decently well on type

hollow wadi
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For 3v3 and 3v1 respectively

crude sandal
devout sphinx
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Blue better than skyla?

copper otter
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3 v 3, lodge skyla, for 3 v 1..... lmao

brazen escarp
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is there any lodge ghost options?

copper otter
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They're only supports

hollow wadi
copper otter
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So no

brazen escarp
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akr

hollow wadi
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Both are good but Skyla is way easier to get dupes for

crude sandal
copper otter
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What's top 100's number rn?

hollow wadi
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Plus she doesn’t need to sync for her dps

copper otter
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I haven't unlocked leaderboards so idk

brazen escarp
brazen escarp
crude sandal
crude sandal
brazen escarp
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ok

copper otter
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That's really low PetrelWTF

devout sphinx
hollow wadi
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Imo yeah

brazen escarp
copper otter
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I might actually get top 100 this time around omg

crude sandal
copper otter
brazen escarp
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is there any f2p spdef and def debuffer?

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btw does kukui work for leering in the rock stage?

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also do the stat raise work like in the main games

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like +2 attack = 100% more dmg?

plush palm
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colress is far better

brazen escarp
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i would like u to mention the mon please if u can, im new to the game, so i tend to remember them by their pokemon :p

crude sandal
plush palm
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spdef debuffer... your best option is probably lodge cheren aka purrloin

brazen escarp
thin wren
brazen escarp
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cool

icy pendant
brazen escarp
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ok

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i was asking cuz in the mainline games +2 atk = 100% more dmg

icy pendant
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however as a beginner your priority should be finish the battles for the first time rewards and dip while you work on building your account up

brazen escarp
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like +2 atk = 2x attack, +4 atk = 3x atk

brazen escarp
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i just recently spent 36k on the rei banner

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im kinda disappointed

crude sandal
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I don't remember how stat raise work in this game

brazen escarp
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but cant say i didnt expect that

crude sandal
brazen escarp
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yes

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i expected that

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but :p

crude sandal
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Well, let's not get off-topic right now

brazen escarp
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ok

fluid anvil
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VoK at #1 BarryPogChamp
But didnt break 10M HapuStare

brazen escarp
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is kukui a good def debuffer?

crude sandal
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Like Citrine said, Colress is far better

hollow wadi
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For a f2p defense buffer he’s solid but yeah

brazen escarp
hollow wadi
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Colress has screech for physical defense

icy pendant
crude sandal
brazen escarp
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ah

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then sp def

crude sandal
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Lucian is Sp. Def. with Growl

brazen escarp
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whats a good f2p sp def

brazen escarp
vagrant ivy
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people run colress-redlax with special attackers anyway
source: ingame team repository for various DCs

brazen escarp
vagrant ivy
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thunder wave spam is still very valuable if you don't have invested bp barry

icy pendant
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Lucian is fine, though lodge Cheren is f2p as well and twice as quick

crude sandal
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Growl lowers attack, but he has a passive that also lowers Sp. Def.

brazen escarp
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does it need 2/5 or 3/5?

icy pendant
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base

crude sandal
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1/5 alone

brazen escarp
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alr

icy pendant
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It may be worth taking some time to read pairs’ kits to get a better sense for their playstyle

vagrant ivy
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@brazen escarp do you have lucy, bertha or perhaps chose SS leaf from victory road

brazen escarp
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i havent chose from victory road yet

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people are saying to pick ss blue tho

vagrant ivy
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then don't choose SS leaf

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go pick that instead

brazen escarp
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ok

icy pendant
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Blue is far and away the best pick, the other two will fall off harder as your account develops

brazen escarp
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what does blue do btw?

crude sandal
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Support

brazen escarp
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but then again i also like charizard but :p

vagrant ivy
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@brazen escarp if you have koga you can use him to toxic stall out the DC as well

icy pendant
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Leaf just has a niche here since she can apply bad poison and can get you higher damage counts than your account currently can get

vagrant ivy
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should be about 100k

brazen escarp
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like roxie i think

vagrant ivy
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but lucy is better since bad poison and trap

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also bp erika exists

crude sandal
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Or you can just clear DC and dip

brazen escarp
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i do have lucy

crude sandal
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Without doing any damage

vagrant ivy
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if you can't bad poison your second best option is burn/regular poison/trap/sandstorm/hail

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status conditions and weather don't stack tho

icy pendant
brazen escarp
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i just want some of the ticekts

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i want those sync pairs

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cuz why not

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:p

vagrant ivy
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you will get them eventually

brazen escarp
vagrant ivy
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also fun fact damage challenge restarts tomorrow at psychic 3v3

brazen escarp
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i just checked

crude sandal
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As of right now, it will be very slow to obtain those units even if you do put effort into the DCs

brazen escarp
icy pendant
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It’s a permanent gamemode, there is no rush to get them at all

vagrant ivy
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ice single target yes

crude sandal
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It's better to develop your roster first before tackling this mode

vagrant ivy
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otherwise it's gone until next februrary

brazen escarp
vagrant ivy
brazen escarp
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i dont have good ice dps

vapid kernel
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can anyone tell me where MOVE POWERUP is coming from

vagrant ivy
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get ghetsis while you still can

brazen escarp
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i tried with hala but barely got any

icy pendant
crude sandal
vagrant ivy
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spam glaciate

brazen escarp
vapid kernel
brazen escarp
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is it just me or do the legendary adventures take way more manuals

vagrant ivy
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dont forget to buff special attack before spamming glaciate

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they do take way more manuals

brazen escarp
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ok

crude sandal
brazen escarp
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so i wasnt just tripping

vapid kernel
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leme try something

icy pendant
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Move powerup is the innate isn’t it?

snow raptor
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@warped gulch did had specific gear for ur 1M Gordie / Lear SS / SC Steven ?

vapid kernel
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Oh !

crude sandal
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Hmmmmm, for tomorrow, is SS Steven like 3rd best among the DDs?

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1st is Lear, 2nd is LuSSamine and 3rd is SSteven

brazen escarp
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what type is tomorrow?

crude sandal
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Triple Psychic

brazen escarp
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ok

crude sandal
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The rotation renews

brazen escarp
crude sandal
brazen escarp
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alr

crude sandal
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Best F2P for tomorrow would be Caitlin

brazen escarp
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(u are a psychic trust)

snow raptor
brazen escarp
crude sandal
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Unova E4

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She also appeared in gen 4

brazen escarp
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ok

hollow wadi
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Who does Caitlin have again I forgot

crude sandal
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Reuniclus

brazen escarp
brazen escarp
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what

icy pendant
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yes she is genpool

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I would not worry about any of these gamemodes beyond a first clear until you complete all of the permanently available content though

crude sandal
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Also, will anyone try BP Will on psychic 3v1?

icy pendant
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what are his multipliers again?

crude sandal
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Innate is Sp. Def. drop

crude sandal
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Grid multipliers are Fuzzy Strike 5 and Double Down 3

icy pendant
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hmm maybe I can build him in time, I’ll see if I need any other type coverage first

crude sandal
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He has Aggravation 9 in passives

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For instant confusion on Confusion

icy pendant
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seeing confusion as a multiplier does worry me lol

crude sandal
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For those who have Sp. Def. as their multiplier and/or innate, I think SS Brendan might be the best partner for them

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Dragon Breath for para and Luster Purge for Sp. Def. drop

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In fact, I think for psychic 3v1, DC Blue + SS Brendan might be a good combo

vagrant ivy
crude sandal
vagrant ivy
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oh right his EX reran god knows how long ago

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yeah then its caitlin

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but who EX's that...

crude sandal
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@thin wren Tomorrow's the day huh?

icy pendant
vagrant ivy
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well i don't really have a right to say that tbh

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i have flint 20/20 waiting on poma day tmr

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and base skyla at EX

vapid kernel
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Tomorrow time for SS LUsamine upgraded score

crude sandal
vapid kernel
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i dont hv him so IDGAF

sacred badger
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last time i hit 1.2m with nc rosa, anni may and ss lusamine

crude sandal
sacred badger
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this time i'm going to do ss lusamine, nc blue and nc rosa :>

icy pendant
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I’m going on the SSteven train since I need to use my 70 energy one for something

sacred badger
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full 5/5? D:

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with what team? o_o

vapid kernel
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i think it will be like 500K higher possibly

icy pendant
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3/5 EXR Lear will probably get used but I don’t expect him to surpass my optimal Steven team

sacred badger
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ss lana will probably hit harder tbh ;x

icy pendant
vapid kernel
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Lana is doing nothing except bring Psychic Terrain

crude sandal
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Instead of Melony

icy pendant
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likely yes

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because you can relic song right before her sync and get back in psychic mode anyways

crude sandal
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Yeah, use her B Move to trigger the psychic rebuff, go to Pirouette and sync there to go back to Aria

icy pendant
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and she has 4 moves to burn turns on things not named Sing

crude sandal
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This time, I think Rei can 1M the 3v1 DC

sacred badger
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either that i go ham with the same team i used.

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for fighting single

crude sandal
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Fighting single, SSA Cynthia will be meta still

sacred badger
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i think i can do nc hop, but with 3R now

icy pendant
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Rei has 1m before though?

crude sandal
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Numbing Blow for para and NC Rosa for fighting rebuff and Sing spam

sacred badger
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with nc bianca 2R ;o~

crude sandal
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And, I think SC Diantha will be good here too

sacred badger
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Poison Single is going to be itchy sigh

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rock multi.

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i could 3/5 my selene alt but eh.

crude sandal
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3/5 Alt. Selene will be miles better than NC Silver

icy pendant
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oh true she doesn’t need that wacky circle setup for sync spam

crude sandal
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SSA Cynthia has been used before in fighting 3v3 right?

sacred badger
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seems... fine.

crude sandal
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Also, besides SSA Cynthia maxing out Diantha innate and Brute Wits, NC Rosa can max out Inertia

sacred badger
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oh interesting i used the same team too lol

snow raptor
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I'll stick with that for now, god i hate Damage Challenge for real

sacred badger
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i think you got a good score. were you aiming for top score ? D:

snow raptor
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Not for now, i'm still in love for HSE for ressource comitment haha

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Top500 is fine for me, i can def improove Leaf/Blue/Melony run

icy pendant
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super sparring is definitely less resource investment at top level though

snow raptor
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I wouldn't know so i trust you on that, but the overall gameplay of DC doesn't fit for my taste saddly

icy pendant
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then that’s an issue with the gamemode, not with level of investment

snow raptor
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Mix of both yeah for sure

icy pendant
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SS is more or less “the same ~8 pair core, plus up to 3 investments” - HSE is a flat 15

loud cedar
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too lazy for the others kek

sacred badger
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first sync with gordie didnt sync ;x

vagrant ivy
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hm

icy pendant
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meanwhile here I am with only fire done lol

thin wren
icy pendant
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not tryharding because I have nothing for rock

crude sandal
thin wren
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I will try for 5.5 mil

sacred badger
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gordie would've been nice if you can burn the target but alas.

vagrant ivy
icy pendant
crude sandal
sacred badger
icy pendant
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nope he’s 5/5 he’s just competing against 36 20/20s for the spirits, and needs the powerups first

covert geyser
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Anyone have a video of the summer gardenia colress renegade Cynthia team?

vapid kernel
icy pendant
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yeah for regular DC I have used all of them but also Aaron is in there for SS

vagrant ivy
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in general

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i meant

sullen zephyr
vagrant ivy
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that you're prepared for this mode

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more so than me probably

crude sandal
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I've literally used all the enablers mentioned there

sacred badger
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had to make a Correction area ;x

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i have no idea where i'm getting 201 training tickets from

vagrant ivy
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did you forget a ranked DC

sacred badger
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i.... dont think so.

vagrant ivy
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🤔

sacred badger
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1st super sparring was marnie1poison, wally3dragon, hop1fighting whichw as in july.
august gave us arc super sparring, arc cynthia3fairy, arclance1dragon and arcsteven3ground
October is super sparring right now

crude sandal
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I'm gonna try SC Emmet on bug 3v1

vernal condor
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please reconsider

sacred badger
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i have each of them recorded so...

vernal condor
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he's worse than guzma

sacred badger
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i'm not sure where its coming from ;x

crude sandal
vernal condor
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I already did lol he's so much worse

sacred badger
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=IF(F48 <= 1000000, FLOOR(F48 / 10000), 200 + FLOOR((F48 - 1000000) / 50000)) like so hrm

crude sandal
vernal condor
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I don't remember

crude sandal
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Because I'm going for good ol' NC Blue/Melony with him

vernal condor
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yeah nah

crude sandal
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NC Blue enables his Tough Sync and if Emmet is gridded Berserker 1 on Swords Dance, then he only needs to use it 2 times

vernal condor
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how do you even grid that

crude sandal
vernal condor
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I need to find what I did back then

crude sandal
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Emmet also has MGA on his TM, which also gives him SEUN, which will be perfect for Melony

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If spamming was discovered back then, Emmet would've also gotten 1M score

vapid kernel
crude sandal
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@split coral I'll use SC Emmet when bug 3v3 comes

vernal condor
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Im trying to send a picture but internet is slow LarryDead

crude sandal
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Not bad for his 1st sync

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With NC Blue and Melony

vernal condor
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RosaThink it was back when we didnt think about sing spam yet

split coral
crude sandal
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I'll use SC submas

split coral
crude sandal
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Or one of them

split coral
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w h y....

crude sandal
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Why not? I'm going to use SC submas in your honor at least

fossil tinsel
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💀

sour lark
vagrant ivy
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a person used nc hop

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still only got like 550k

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i run chase/melony and i got like 100k less than that

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he's just bad even after EX theres no excuse

sour lark
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Well, that's still way better than the 118695 shown here

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Looks like they were spamming moves rather than syncs CyrusSweat

fossil tinsel
sour lark
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Though their Ghetsis isn't EX either, so probably no Power Boost nodes

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...Then again, I thought Pecking Order was available by default

vagrant ivy
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it aint

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maybe you can run cold snap + glaciate spam???

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i'm out of ideas

sour lark
split coral
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OK I accept now

sour lark
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Without Neo Hop, I think Oleana might be the next-fastest way to set Ghetsis up, while also serving as the sync countdown spammer if she's 3/5. Hopefully the -6 speed counters the timeloss from Poison animations

crude sandal
sour lark
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Don't know whether they do have Oleana though

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And I can't exactly test it myself since I don't have her AcerolaPensive

brisk shale
brisk shale
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885k, 740k from ghetsis
Which is kinda unoptimal bc with 5/5 ss Hilbert you can get 1m with just himself
50% from double rebuff, -6 in 3 tecnhoblasts and charging infliction 2 to help noble roar spam

vagrant ivy
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but ramp up from his TM is from powerboost

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which would help with setup

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HE1 for para is always there tho

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so you dont actually need to run chase/nc blue

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but alas gauge

sour lark
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Sharp Entry.
BP Barry can set his SpAtk up but needs to attack (and risk ruining the run with Trap) to give crit

vagrant ivy
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yeah that looks bad

fossil tinsel
sour lark
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Hm, alright then

fossil tinsel
sour lark
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Hau&TapuKoko can reduce Speed quickly, if you pulled on the recent Alola banner

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Fixed

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Getting high scores in the Damage Challenge means doing stuff we normally wouldn't in a real battle. Like spamming a move that does nothing, so that it passes turns fast so we can use the sync move several times

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Hm, Gordie&Coalossal is in the general pool. At 3/5, he can reduce enemy speed by 2 stacks at a time. Doesn't contribute a whole lot else here, though

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Why is Speed so hard to debuff when so many characters have Cakewalk

fossil tinsel
sour lark
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That technique was originally invented in the Legendary Gauntlet, and I even used it in two clears of my own in the most recent one

acoustic chasm
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What's the reason for SS Steven instead of Aaron?

sour lark
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What Ghetsis wants is a way to quickly ruin the enemy's Atk for his Pecking Order grid node (fortunately he can grid for Noble Roar Double Drop to do this himself), a way to quickly ruin the enemy's Speed for his sync's innate multiplier (uhhhh, Glaciate is not fast), and someone to spam a useless move for sync countdown

fossil tinsel
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I have melony

sour lark
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She could do the sing spam trick, then

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BP Barry can do similar with the right grid node (to rebate the gauge cost of Thunder Wave)

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The problem is the speed thing. We don't wanna sit through eight Glaciate animations...

fossil tinsel
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yeah lol

brisk shale
sour lark
#

Oh, it can spam if we somehow didn't have to worry about gauge?

brisk shale
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Ye

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Or if you're also using a slower spammer with excess gauge

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Like BP Barry and colress
or 5/5 SS hilbert

sour lark
#

Intriguing indeed HilbertHmm

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How slow is Metal Sound at it?

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They do have SS Hilbert but only at 2/5 unfortunately

brisk shale
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And you need 3/5 for charging infliction 2

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And then 5/5 for the second rebuff and 4/5 for -2 speed per technoblast

sour lark
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Wouldn't wanna spend candies just for this, though AcerolaPensive

brisk shale
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Ye, I got him 5/5 by accident

sour lark
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I threw candies at Neo Red (basically I'll only use them on Masters and Arca) and used him for my own clear. That doesn't exactly help our newbie here tho HilbertHmm

fossil tinsel
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yeah quite unlucky (I think?) I did 400 scout points and got 4/5 hau, 4/5 gloria and 2/5 ss hilbert (used guaranteed for hilbert)

sour lark
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Wait.

Which Hau?

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Zwerchhau, says a German swordsman

fossil tinsel
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decidueye hau

sour lark
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Oh, damn. Hm...

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Wait, what?

fossil tinsel
#

the left one

sour lark
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Oh, Rei

hollow wadi
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That’s mad lucky

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I got 2/5 hilbert, 3/5 Gloria, and 1/5 Rei by pity and I thought that was good

sour lark
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My first two guesses at how to make this work, then, would be
Plan A: See how well Ghetsis can work with only Atk debuffs and Pecking Order
Plan B: pivot to 3star Candice for Inertia and her innate Hail multiplier (Melony can get Snow Shelter at 1/5 so she can still spam the countdown safely)

bright niche
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Guys I have almost forgot to complete ice weak DC..
Can u guys suggest me the best ice tea for single ice DC

sour lark
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I used 3/5 Neo Red

misty forge
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4.5% odds usually net around 4-5 units on average

bright niche
sour lark
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Lemme go check

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This is without using skill gear, just type gear

fossil tinsel
bright niche
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Lemme deww it

fossil tinsel
sour lark
fossil tinsel
#

yeah

fluid anvil
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Nice (thats with CS2 as well, not SP3)

hollow wadi
fluid anvil
misty forge
hollow wadi
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NC leaf my beloved

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Wish I pulled her 💀

fossil tinsel
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though tbh I did a reroll after a pity in my first account 💀

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is there any good team for beginner in the 3 type DC, I have morty and gloria for fire and ghost I think

sour lark
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Sounds good.
Rock 3v1, though... Uh, I dunno. Brock??? But then we have the Speed debuff problem all over again

hollow wadi
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Gloria can probably get you 1 million for all the base rewards

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If you don’t really care about your total score at least

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Do you have her EX/EX role?

sour lark
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I've heard good things about Gloria indeed

fossil tinsel
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though idk how I should use her, like with melony spam sing and spam sync move with gloria?

hollow wadi
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Probably, tbh

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I don’t know enough about this game to help you with specifics tho 😭

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But if you can, I’d get her to 6 stars and ex her

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Not sure how new you are tho so that might be tough…

fallen trail
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very dumb interaction i learned

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if gloria is bouncing

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and ss morty uses sunny day to give the team the omnibuffs with his passive

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gloria doesnt get the buffs

crude sandal
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That makes sense

fallen trail
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anyways i got this

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no exr on gloria, with it she can get 2 mil i think

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dunno if this is more than w champion blue or not though

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if i got 2 more dodges or paras i think i would get 1 more sync

fossil tinsel
#

what does ho-oh do? I don't have him

hollow wadi
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He sets sun, heals a lot, and gives stat buffs

vapid kernel
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She can 2M withiut exr

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Exactly 2M

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And u cant another sync

vapid kernel
fallen trail
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yea extended sun with field exr

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also has move gauge accel which helps w sing spam

crude sandal
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Surprisingly I'm still at rank 88 in the ranked DC

fallen trail
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i need to do the other stages looool whoops

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i dont have champion leaf so i wont be a top rank, sadge

fossil tinsel
#

Oh i see, sadge I don’t have him 😭

icy pendant
fallen trail
royal jolt
fossil tinsel
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To bypass the sing animation, we have to give the enemy a status?

crude sandal
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Yes

fossil tinsel
#

I was thinking this team, though only status is burnAshGoodGrief

crude sandal
icy pendant
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Bounce 30% paralysis

hollow wadi
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Colress would be quicker tho wouldn’t it?

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Plus you keep screech

icy pendant
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not necessarily

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Gloria being tactic 1 makes a lot of sense because then you also dodge a move

hollow wadi
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Oh true actually

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Resetting is lame but eh you’ll live

icy pendant
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frees up the screech slot to run sun instead

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since it’s a larger multiplier

fossil tinsel
#

yeah I don't have Colress WhitneySad

fossil tinsel
#

I think for sun setter I only have ponyta I think

sour lark
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Ponyta's probably good enough

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Well, you can evolve it to Rapidash I guess

fossil tinsel
#

yeah

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setting sun is better than 3 screech?

icy pendant
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Blaine is fine, you only need 90 seconds of sun anyways

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-6 defense is only a 20-25% damage increase into mitigation 5

crude sandal
sour lark
#

Blaine is fine, you only need 90 seconds of sun anyways
You sure? Melony's not EX so we'd skip her sync

icy pendant
sour lark
#

Fair enough

icy pendant
#

technically egg Ninetales is fine

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actually wait tech Ninetales might be better than Blaine

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support Fuecoco is probably the best sun eggmon because of speed buffs lol

fallen trail
#

ok i did it… my rock score is kinda disappointing me though, wonder if i’m doing something wrong

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i didnt use b leer cuz its slow but maybe i should have for def debuffs?

fallen trail
#

ahhhhhh she didnt for her first sync

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i used her tm after mega

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wait

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no she still wouldnt have sp def buff huh

crude sandal
fallen trail
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that’s probably it

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steven is faster for gauge but i forgot i need to buff her sp def

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i’ll try aaron

true locust
fallen trail
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aaron i only got like 10k higher… might be a crit issue cuz that doesnt seem right i got the same number of syncs in

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unless ss steven theme skills are that strong

true locust
#

Strange:) should be way more score

fallen trail
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huh that is a lot

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+36 atk

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i wonder if i can get diantha to buff her own sp def while still getting 4 syncs in

true locust
#

I did 4 sync whit 4 super up next and 3 b leer

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But hard tell how fast steven spam it? Or aaron since never use them in dc🙂‍↔️

fallen trail
#

oh tm mpr simulator

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dunno if i wanna do that lol

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their spam is just as fast as sing spam, the only issue is having to be at +6 def/spdef for it to be effective

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so it takes a while to get there

#

this is with 3 syncs…?

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its scoring more than my 4 syncs run

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im so confused lol

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biggest difference is having def drops on this run ig

true locust
#

Did you use b lear?

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Then more damage

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If steven was 2/5 have mp would be more

fallen trail
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i used b leer once

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on 4 syncs i dont use it at all

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def drops mattered i guess

zenith jolt
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Skill gear are a massive joke

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I cant

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1000 feather spend on ONE gear, i didn’t Even have once the skill I wanted

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Painful

fallen trail
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yea i cant get 4 syncs w double steven while also having diantha buff her own sp def

true locust
#

Need get heat wave miss😘

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Funny thing i got in one off my runs it😂 first was 3 miss haha

fallen trail
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there we go

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wish i could get 4 syncs w ss steven and diantha buffing her own sp def but it would require a b diamond storm use that is just too slow

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so aaron will do

desert dawn
#

Are there any good 3/5 SS-Hilda clears for fire if you don’t have NC Leaf or Gloria or NC Bianca? Or is she not good for this damage challenge I can’t seem to find any

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I only got 432K with SS-Hilda, SS-May, and Melony not sure if there are high clears with her

fluid anvil
#

ss hilda probably cannot get 1M in 3v1 without the nc leaf boost

desert dawn
#

Tragic

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Do you think 400-500K is about the best you could get or are there any other teams you’d recommend to try to score higher with

true locust
#

If you have nc blue and hilda and melony

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Should be the best use

desert dawn
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I can’t just sync spam with her since I need her to get a few V-Create boosts for rising tide damage so I’ve been using SS-May to debuff while she V-Creates and then get a Melony support sync then a May Sprint sync then a SS-Hilda sync at the end but not sure if I could do better just adding SC Steven or NC Blue

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Gotcha

true locust
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Grid for it

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First sync nc blue and melony then hilda

desert dawn
#

Would adding scorching sync not be better or is burning not worth it for the added time

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That’s what I was using earlier

true locust
#

Its sure one sync less

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Not worth it for singel target get it

desert dawn
#

Got it thanks

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I was getting three syncs previously but that was only since I had SS-May sprint sync I’ll switch to this and go without the burn thanks for the advice!

true locust
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No prob

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Nc blue need para and flinch from first move then have more time

desert dawn
#

How many stat boosts would you try to get on Hilda before just sing spamming and syncing

true locust
#

Need use nc blue speed and tm his

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Its all for it

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Or speed and hilda tmp maybe hear its faster then nc blue

desert dawn
#

Is Melony TM worth it for accuracy boosts off grid and/or Hilda V-Create for defense boosts? Or would both of those make it rough to get the syncs in you think?

true locust
#

You need 18 total sts

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So nc blue have 14 and hilda 6

#

So have more then need

lapis yarrow
#

Why is this so low?

vapid kernel
#

I think maybe you are not paralysing the enemy first

royal jolt
brisk shale
#

Visual bug

royal jolt
#

ik

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still funny as hell

brisk shale
#

Oh it's the damage from the enemy targeted

desert dawn
vapid kernel
#

can someone tell me if the enemies of DC have Stout Heart 5 or something

royal jolt
#

they do

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they seem to have the reduction of 5 for everything I think

fallen trail
#

you need to paralyze with bounce

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have gloria tank

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bounce turn 1 to dodge play rough

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if it doesnt paralyze reset

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use her max move after morty’s sync

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its not like other units where you max move at the end, her main sync multiplier relies on using the max move at the start

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you have her 4/5 so you can grab soften up and haymaker

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and max super preparation

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morty can max her atk with sunny day omnibuff and team gimme five

lapis yarrow
vapid kernel
#

Melony 1st, Morty 2nd if hes ex role,

fallen trail
#

i didnt sync w melony

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just morty

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he is exr

lapis yarrow
unborn otter
#

@royal jolt is 3/5 exr nc blue or 1/5 exr chase better for nc red and melony?

vapid kernel
#

based on my calculations

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SS Steven can get 4M tomorrow with NC Rosa and NC Blue

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if he gets 5 syncs

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ok wait i meant 3.5-3.8M

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SS Lana 3/5 will reach 2M

hollow wadi
#

I can’t do this next dc 😭

#

My best psychic pair is no ex Giovanni

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I’d build up bp will cuz he looks fun but I’m also out of iSilverPowerUp for the month

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Do we know what’s after this one then?

vapid kernel
#

Lear is 5.3 M

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mmm

vapid kernel
hollow wadi
#

Oh bet

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Stadium Gloria time

fallen trail
#

if morty isnt exr that complicates things yes

cloud timber
#

bp will is usable but inferior to those still

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in case you overlooked them

hollow wadi
#

Didn’t mean to ping my b

cloud timber
#

there is a shot oak could be a viable option with 2 good mults and evasion access

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but nobody's tested him since he didn't have ex last time

hollow wadi
#

Fair, I can’t get his ex in time tho

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I have like three iSilverPowerUp to my name

#

Used them all on lodge and bp pairs

cloud timber
#

you never need to invest if it's exclusively for this mode bc you're going to get the rewards eventually regardless

#

gio without ex will be super underwhelming and 4* oak can still outperform

hollow wadi
#

Eh it’s fun, I think it’s worth it

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Tho yeah I’ll mess with oak tomorrow

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Thanks for the help!

royal jolt
unborn otter
#

With ice gear

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What did 1/5 exr chase do?

rotund sierra
#

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cloud timber
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prob rosa and some para setter that manages the gauge, possible that redlax could work

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idk how the gauge management goes with rosa since she has much higher speed than melony

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and never used her

fallen trail
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ditch melony for rosa and add a paralyzer probably

rotund sierra
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cloud timber
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that's what i'd try

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no idea how well it actually works out

long silo
#

That works fine. I've used the pairing in some instances in fact

rotund sierra
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thin wren
#

Soon we will learn if we get gems again

#

regular dc alone gives about 900 gems per month

cloud timber
#

reruns have always gave gems so they'd have to make a specific exception

pearl dawn
#

This is a kinda different case.

#

More akin to that of the region rotation.

sacred badger
#

come, i'm ready to melt nemona3psychic :D~

icy pendant
#

did I only get 1m with 5/5 ss silver? yes but I honestly don't feel like optimizing because I almost forgot to run this dc

fallen trail
#

i'm more concerned about getting more tickets

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than gems

pearl dawn
#

Logically, it should just reset your points.

#

Keeping your high score in the log until you get higher then that.

icy pendant
#

however logical implementations are not always the chosen implementations

pearl dawn
#

Sure.

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But there's no use questioning it when we'll see in four hours.

fluid wave
#

bruh, is 500k achievable? i got 306k with this and i'm not even asking for much.

#

i don't even want the million awards just the cakes and coins.

cloud timber
#

bertha is def not helping

#

can be better to just not use sand at all

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esp since you lack sync rush on that team

#

nemona is also contributing nothing at non-ex

fluid wave
#

i use sand to boost her moves

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and since barry's the only non-paralyzeable opponent, i might as well just go normal way with moves and then sync

icy pendant
#

you're gonna have to walk me through that hau team, I genuinely do not see the lines

fluid wave
#

yeah i hate that one is because i dont wanna ex this morty that i never use

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and i dont have an exed support that buffs attacks

icy pendant
#

just poison stall it then

fluid wave
#

that was just done out of my ass

#

how much does poison stall give usually

icy pendant
#

all dot is done as if the enemy has 100k hp

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so you should be good to get to 100k

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if not way more with additives from Lucy et al

fluid wave
#

much better should i not bother with wrap?

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and just leave at the badly poisoned

cloud timber
#

nah if you're going with passive damage you do everything

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lucy and bertha are good for that

fluid wave
#

got it and just waittttt

icy pendant
#

Lucy / Bertha / BP Erika probably stacks lots of extra additives on there

fluid wave
#

badly poisoned them 3 and just waiting... patiently lol

icy pendant
#

yeah you inflict and then do absolutely nothing once that happens

fluid wave
#

wait what is bertha for?

cloud timber
#

maybe you could put in a real damage dealer in there on top

icy pendant
#

bertha has trap and sand chip

cloud timber
#

sandstorm, trap, stealth rock

icy pendant
#

oh rocks, yep

fluid wave
#

oh damn right...

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this ones gonna be bad then...

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i did janine oak and lucy

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and it looks already iffy

#

lol... 55k... well at least even better than that morty balloon...

pastel bone
#

can anyone help me get to 1M for blue?

fossil igloo
#

Sweet! Updated my score.

sturdy pebble
#

How well does SS Hilda do against 3v1 Fire?

old valve
#

Probably not that well considering the lack of a tech role but I coooould be wrong

fluid wave
#

Bruh how can I 200k with 4/5 exed Olivia

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On Barry

old valve
#

I guess I'm gonna have to do the same weird aah Anni N/SS Morty/SS Hilbert comp I did for single target fire before

dusk sundial
#

But that’s on dc, idk if this mode is different

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And it also requires gordie who you want on st rock

sturdy pebble
#

Ah

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Then I'm not even attempting to get a higher score LarryDead

cloud timber
#

with both anni n and 5/5 ss hilbert

old valve
#

My SS Hilbert is still 1/5 unfortunately but I appreciate the suggestion

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Got a 700k off of the comp as is

#

Now to figure out what to do for physical 3v3 ghost

fluid wave
#

Well no sprinter coins and cakes for me I guess.

old valve
#

And now I figure out what the heck to do with this ghost roster lol

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(Image edited for full viewer clarification)

fair mist
old valve
#

Figured

long silo
#

Morty/BP Barry/Event Victor gets you 1m

old valve
#

Cowabunga it is

#

Wh

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The alt colour unlock screen glitched out.

#

Where is drifblim

old valve
#

Also, I've never really looked closely at him, and I'm not seeing anything right off the bat here, so I kinda have to ask- what makes BP Barry different from, like, Elio or w/e?

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...Aside from the obvious differences in guaranteed consistency and trainer move of course

fluid wave
#

Could exing and caking red add 100k more or no? That 1/5 really ain't helping it though is it

old valve
#

Hmmm

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What other fire tech units do you have if I can ask?

fluid wave
#

Serena is 4/5

#

If Serena can outperform I'm MAYBe willing to ex her.

#

But I don't think she can honestly

old valve
#

Red has mega tax so I'm pretty sure Serena could probably outperform him without the EX

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Lemme check

toxic sleet
#

how about silver

fallen trail
fluid wave
#

I unfortunately don't have silver exed

#

The event for silver hoo oh has not come yet

old valve
#

Look at the base powers of their respective sync moves, and consider the fact that Serena can spec into her grid's sync nodes

cloud timber
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUt4yCUks8g uses nc blue but basically the only resource for base serena

This DC is ending soon, I don't have time to draw anything so that's 2 thumbnails in a row without a drawing :despair:
As the title implies, Serena really isn't easy to use, because both her innate and grid multipliers are based on Sleep. She also can't raise her crit by herself, so it's very hard to use her properly. Don't use her if you have a...

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old valve
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I'm like. 95% sure she'd outdamage a 1/5 red at 4/5 with no EXs involved.

cloud timber
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does 500k on that team

fluid wave
#

Sadly no NC blue rip

#

Don't have the op support too buff Serena

old valve
#

You could still get stuff done with her regardless

cloud timber
#

^

old valve
#

Barry can ramp crit, can't he?

fluid wave
#

No

old valve
#

What

fluid wave
#

Barry gives sp atk

#

Only

old valve
#

Check his passives

#

He gives Crit when he slaps a para'd opponent

cloud timber
#

yea team critical shock is maybe the worst way to buff crit

old valve
#

It's a bit slow but it IS crit

fluid wave
#

Ahhh wtg

cloud timber
#

and serena needs them not para'd for her mult

fluid wave
#

I didn't realize

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So he can buff cr

#

That's great. I just need 300k not even asking 500k. Wish me luck.

old valve
#

Idk if you can hit 300k without EX but

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If you're EXing her, good luck, I believe in you

cloud timber
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buffing her might be enough of a hassle to make her not outperform ss red there but you can see

crude sandal
#

Top 100 in this ranked DC is 5,793,891

old valve
#

Forgot to reply to that

old valve
fair mist
old valve
#

Anyways ig I'm going with this grid for Morty?

cloud timber
#

no rude awakening and no innate so she gets literally nothing for her sync if no sleep

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at which point just use ss red

copper otter
#

time to see if DeNa will give us 100 gems from DC in 2 hours

crude sandal
#

Also VoKzx finally reached the 10M+ range, I just wished Adam was there surpassing them

old valve
#

I'm gonna see about replacing Event Victor with Ren Cynthia in case it does anything for me, wish me luck

#

Bada bing bada boom

#

Oh I have an incredibly stupid idea for 3v1 rock

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...actually wait I don't think Paulo would be worth it now that I think about it

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90% sure this team will need SS Diantha on it though what with this being the rock roster lol

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(She's EXR'd)

#

NC Blue Melony and her ig?

#

Do I Rock Zone and use her Buddy Move 3 times before her first sync or just use her Buddy Move after the sync, though...?

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I hate thinking

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I'll try the latter first

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Oh wait I want her to actually have her attack raised right lol

Before it is

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Oh wait the battle rules slow sing spam strats down a ton huh

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Wasn't thinking about that

still hearth
old valve
#

?

still hearth
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oops i didmt even realize i typed smth im just stalking this channel

old valve
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Oh lol

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Okay yeah I have no idea how to sync countdown on Barry's stage here without wasting a ton of time doing something like setting up Ghetsis's Noble Roar lol

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...Or wasting a ton of time in another way like using Screech Colress in general

feral hamlet
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500k with NC Red 2/5 expected?

thin wren
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can you ex gordie@old valve

old valve
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I spent the last of my EXing mats on Morty and BP Barry so uh

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no.

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...I could candy Diantha though

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If that does anything lol

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Maybe not worth the investment tho

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Okay yeah I still have no idea how I'm supposed to handle sync countdown here with this rule

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Without absolutely messing something else about the strat up

cloud timber
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aaron (ideally oleana but she's much less accessible and i don't have her)

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best no-status sync rushers

old valve
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Oh.

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I wasn't expecting that lol

cloud timber
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ss steven and janine also exist, lot of people are running gordie/sc steven/ss steven

old valve
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Aaron, SS Diantha, and who else, the- oh shit SS Steven works never mind I'm using him

cloud timber
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he's slower to set up than aaron but maybe the theme skills make up for it and it doesn't cost a whole sync

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1 bar cosmic power is what you're looking to spam

old valve
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I figured, yea

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Two stat raisers faster that one stat raisers kinda like the stat lowering moves work I presume?