Melony's kinda bad for Vs barry.
#Damage Challenge
sacred badger
vapid kernel
Highest i cud reap with 1/5 ]etrrl
sacred badger
i might have to run Aaron instead.
royal jolt
thin wren
Melony's kinda bad for Vs barry.
for rock just go aaron
pallid girder
We need a 3/5 exr Petrel haver to do his full number!
royal jolt
2/5 Oleana
The tragedy
vapid kernel
2/5 Oleana
The tragedy
No its a good thing because i pulled 2 copies of her in 1 multi
royal jolt
I love her sm
Absolute GOAT from ST Poison
Badass
long silo
So close! I only have 2/5 Petrel
amber lance
thanks thats crazy
pallid girder
Oleana is also the best no stauts condition spammer afaik.
Support exr. Venom drench can work from the start so no preparation time like Aaron.
royal jolt
Aaron spams that one defensive move, right? And it works?
cloud timber
defend order yeah, slow animation though when you have to use it
thin wren
Support exr. Venom drench can work from the start so no preparation time like Aa...
more gauge heavy tho
royal jolt
Ah
pallid girder
more gauge heavy tho
Ppl makes her work anyway.
cloud timber
yea i've made 2 bar spam work with ss cyrus and anni n and i'm probably going to have to again for ghetsis
and oleana does a lot more to handle her own gauge than those
dc blue will actually have a shot as accomplishing something as damage dealer for psychic with chase/nc blue
pallid girder
Psychic tech is just too abundant that dc blue is kinda the last choice you want to try.
cloud timber
not the most preferable but the biggest benefit from kanto circle and can status spam on his own
vagrant ivy
yes
cloud timber
there aren't any more notable 2 bar status users that i own
vagrant ivy
dc blue role compression can probably make him break 1m in ST
anyways do we think that someone will get 7m with arc cynthia on ground in the normal 3v3 stage
obviously needs 4/5
cloud timber
if anyone can it's her ofc but i haven't kept track of anything arc cynthia related
vagrant ivy
the problem I had in ranked using her was that her ground zone sets sand which eats time
vapid kernel
if anyone can it's her ofc but i haven't kept track of anything arc cynthia rela...
Crazy
cloud timber
yeah sand is ofc her biggest obstacle
does seem like she doesn't need to deal with trap which i didn't actually know until a few seconds ago
thin wren
she can get symun from tm
pallid girder
Ppl even let her first sync under no sand to buy time afaik.
fluid anvil
if 6,8M was possible then 7M is probably possible too
perfect gear + para procs + good dmg rolls = 7M
you can also try running her 4/5 PMUN node, which would give her 10 PMUN stacks for the last attack (without that node its 8 stacks from 4 syncs, 4x2=8)
the extra 2 PMUNs would already push it above 7M
true locust
I will try
Since on ranked my cynthia no got damage corect from custom skill
Sand blaster 4 was not work
pallid girder
But 7m will be WAY HARDER in regular dc bc I think a part of 6.8m is thank to Drill Run miss, and that move doesn't exist in the regular dc.
true locust
You need 3 para for it
vagrant ivy
so super powered 3 is still the play huh
true locust
Sand blast 4 is better
vagrant ivy
alr
true locust
I try it out get 7m
vagrant ivy
and you can’t just run raw ground zone too she has multipliers from sand
true locust
And i have better gears too
thin wren
what do ya all think will be psychic 3v3 top comp btw?
now that we have more developments than back then
fluid anvil
Lear > LuSSA > Jacq/SS steven
true locust
I can see same play
thin wren
Melony / nc rosa / chase / nc blue
redlax has no chance?
fluid anvil
Jacq got 3,4M+ in 3v1, he can probably get at least 3M in 3v3
thin wren
I think it's gonna be Lear Rosa and Chase but I think redlax has a shot
true locust
Tm is slow lax
pallid girder
I think SS Lusa will still use the same team? (NC Rosa + SS Lana)
thin wren
Lear > LuSSA > Jacq/SS steven
it would be hilarious if jacq beats ss Steven
thin wren
Red lax issue para is slow no flinch
oh right no flinch to make up for slow moves
true locust
Yeap
pallid girder
I kinda feel like pure sync spam isn't really better than these two for her.
thin wren
I think SS Lusa will still use the same team? (NC Rosa + SS Lana)
She will use chase over Lana
will I have to 5/5 chase to aim for top spot in psychic dc....
when does he get staggering again
thin wren
Nc blue is probably better for people who want less rng
thin wren
isn't it only 1 turn faster?
true locust
So this can be main issue
pallid girder
She will use chase over Lana
Oh yes Chase for her might be better.
true locust
Need test both variants chase nc blue
thin wren
I am hoping for the rng that I got today in poison
true locust
Use chase need sync whit nc rosa too
Since you never set up lear befor it
Nc blue no need it
Nc blue then lear
So chase need alot rng for make up
thin wren
I love rng
true locust
If he get then need reset
thin wren
I breathe rng
true locust
And reset:)
cloud timber
you really don't
thin wren
Flinch resetting as well....
thin wren
you really don't
Wdym, ofc I breathe rng
cloud timber
copper otter
Saw someone use SST Red for this DC.
thin wren
<a:NOPERS:803509555471974410>
I am a reliable source
copper otter
At first i was going 
but then I saw who was nuking. Checks out now 
sullen zephyr
ss roxie?
pallid girder
SST Red has aoe para and et.
SS Roxie will be thankful if she doesnt need to use et herself.
cloud timber
in theory sst red could net an extra sync that nc blue couldn't with melony but the damage dealer would need to be a good gauge carry on top of not needing blue's tm for fast setup
and chase could do it better anyway
instant para and terrain to bypass sing acc checks
and max countdown
cloud timber
in theory sst red could net an extra sync that nc blue couldn't with melony but ...
ss lear could actually fit the bill here
thin wren
imagine if Lear had para
cloud timber
with power creep we're guaranteed to get progressively better role compression things even if they never design specifically around dc and it's very apparent with arc cynthia that they can and will
and one of them will have to have para
we're also bound to see more stuff with status moves albeit not necessarily sing but as gauge gets better 2 bar moves will be more usable
but dena still shows no signs of designing anything specifically for dc besides potentialy arc cynthia and even poppy before dc was officially out
so these things can easily take a while
arc steven and lance were still very underwhelming for this mode i felt like
we're also going to get much better aaron enablers at some point that compress other things
pallid girder
All 3 arcs are only good in there types.
cloud timber
and don't waste time on uneeded zones
yeah arc steven had so much more potential for offtype as a support type but he's just too slow
but good for literally everything else
cloud timber
also funny thing with the no status parameter for ranked dc is that they already did a better job of killing cd spam in the first dc by nerfing sync moves but maybe they decided that was less fun
cloud timber
paulo and ss morty
which are good if you need those weathers
summer acerola would be alright if you needed rising tide setup but reactive passive that lowers attacks
h sycamore is also a thing and he does buff speed in the process and can apply grass rebuff but awful speed stat
+4 defenses on one use tm
vagrant ivy
alright
cloud timber
there would be a few other decent candidates that also apply gradual healing which is too counterproductive
pallid girder
Ppl once suspected SSA could work but she actually isn't good?
cloud timber
p victor, dc gladion, h jasmine
i never thought she would be but you can squeeze a little utility in fighting
otherwise too costly to run two units just for sync cd
rain copper
H Jasmine's TM gives regen, you should cross her out
wait nvm
i can't read
my apologizes
cloud timber
nw
thin wren
also funny thing with the no status parameter for ranked dc is that they already...
they are aaron/oleana fans
cloud timber
ok i go bed now
sturdy pebble
paulo and ss morty
I'm guessing I pick up these two nodes?
vapid kernel
Actually isnt SSA Cynthia + Aaron also a good spam duo
sturdy pebble
Yea, but I don't have her 
fluid anvil
SSA Cynthia+Aaron is great for when status is blocked in ranked
otherwise Melony sing is better
vapid kernel
Wonder if Aaron gauge is good
vapid kernel
SSA Cynthia+Aaron is great for when status is blocked in ranked
otherwise Melony...
In this duo
icy pendant
doesn't defend order still succeeed if the team's at +6 on both defenses
in which case aaron's innate mgr4 should more than carry
icy pendant
yep
icy pendant
attack order has gridded mgr9 as well 
pallid girder
SSA Cynthia+Aaron is great for when status is blocked in ranked
otherwise Melony...
I actually seldom see that even in no status rank.
pallid girder
doesn't defend order still succeeed if the team's at +6 on both defenses
No, it fails after max def & spdef, so mgr will never proc again.
I know some ppl roll fast track 1 on him bc it proc less than ft2 but still help his gauge.
misty forge
we're also going to get much better aaron enablers at some point that compress o...
Aaron PB: guarded entry 2
jaunty stratus
Im checking the pins and unrelated but i love how chase is represented by that Pikachu meme
cursive linden
We don't have a single Chase emoji yet, both here and in emote server
misty forge
He doesn't deserve one
cursive linden
😭
vagrant ivy
dc barry's sync move name is "i want a theme song water impact"
is there any reference as to why they named it that it sounds so random
royal jolt
I love him and that sync move name so much
royal jolt
is there any reference as to why they named it that it sounds so random
Because he wants a theme song!
But, does he know?
lusty galleon
is there any reference as to why they named it that it sounds so random
Crasher Wake has a theme song, Barry calls himself his student
and he wants Wake to make a theme song for him because... the one from Wake was made by himself
vagrant ivy
fair enough
fallen trail
ironically enough barry has a theme song and crasher wake has the same song as all sinnoh gym leaders
royal jolt
That's part of why I love it so much
Because he literally has his own 😅
dusty ivy
How
When I tried the poison and attack animations mean they took forever
Do I need to paralyze them even though it’s poison
tiny mist
is there a good team to reach a million with geeta?
her poison slows everything so much
nvm I managed
royal jolt
Yeah, Geeta is a powerhouse. It's more or less easy, even with poison
rose basalt
ash or sst red for electric single
rain copper
I believe SST Red is still overall better, but you can always wait for confirmed clears when the stage shows up
royal jolt
Wow
I guess that nutty idea I had worked
lethal siren
I hate this bede now from the bottom of my heart
royal jolt
Play Rough lands 100% of the time, but it's Energy Ball that has the chance to miss
Makes sense
lethal siren
Those dazzling gleam spam will make me blind
I am not touching this dc anymore
I thought to try for one more time but its of no use
Worst DC ever
For me
delicate junco
so I'm eyeing that triple ground event coming up
nervously wondering if AS Cynthia will eat too much time and be bad there
sacred badger
arc cynthia gaming eh.
delicate junco
between sand trapping and the buddy move, i cant imagine time being on her side
sacred badger
you can just do basic stuff, like, nc blue + melony, they sync once ea, and then arc cynthia 3/5 sets up her zone before she syncs.
then you try to aim for a 2nd / 3rd arc cynthia sync
delicate junco
so was nc blue like a free event or something
it almost sseems like everyone is expected to have him specifically
rain copper
nervously wondering if AS Cynthia will eat too much time and be bad there
she simply does not care
the last ranked DC also had Ground and she easily achieved 5 mil iirc
or even more
thin wren
the last ranked DC also had Ground and she easily achieved 5 mil iirc
6.8 mil
she doesn't trap
she fishes for t move mpr for symun
near scaffold
it almost sseems like everyone is expected to have him specifically
I've been noticing that. I spent a lot of gems chasing him, but he eluded me that year. Maybe I'll pull for him the next time he comes around, but I had pretty abysmal luck this anniversary with getting much of anything, so it's hard telling if I'd ever voluntarily pull for him.
cloud timber
he's a master fair but he can do pretty much everything
just at a disadvantage not having him
only more versatile unit would be arc steven (arguably, too)
who's actually much worse in dc
sacred badger
somethring like this?
cursive linden
Arc Cynthia is so good, she will handle the Ground 3v1 easily
cursive linden
somethring like this?
Maybe change defense crush with sands of time?
She wont do any attacks except at the very end, no?
true locust
cursive linden
5/5
true locust
This is my and vokzx grid
cursive linden
Bruh
sacred badger
oh my arc cynthia is 3/5 currently.;-;
i could candy her but ... dont think she needs it that badly.
cursive linden
Get the sync node grid, yeah
sacred badger
hrm wokay
tbh i was hoping to get that sandstorm propulsion but too expensive away ;-;
cursive linden
Sacrifice +9 B Move BP for +50 Sync move BP
cursive linden
tbh i was hoping to get that sandstorm propulsion but too expensive away ;-;
You have to sacrifice TM MPR
sacred badger
Sacrifice +9 B Move BP for +50 Sync move BP
oh okay i can live with this
royal jolt
Ground DC?
Gio will carry me
Probably
pallid girder
SC Adaman for me.
I'm still amazed that SS Gio and SC Adaman use pure DPS build to hit 1M in 3v1
rose basalt
grass single
adaman
rip wonder when will DC rerun again
gotta go back and fix some of the earlier types
cloud timber
current schedule goes to oct 25
maybe we see datamine with next schedule around that time
true locust
Or it end
And we get raid:) since its comming🤣 any way soon
Honestly get same stage? It can be permanent like villa. Since wat point do same ? Not realy make sens i game point off view.
Only make sens if they add some rulles like in ranked for each stages so we dont use same team again and again
thin wren
don't we know it loops
cloud timber
they already do plenty of reruns like with champion stadium or events or battle villa before it was permanent
and there would be an ending to the exchange if it was a one time deal
thin wren
maybe we see datamine with next schedule around that time
didn't mine say it loops
royal jolt
I'm sure it loops. No way everyone could've gotten every unit to 3/5. Especially since they're adding new ones
thin wren
I am gonna ask boltage the next time he's on
But I remember hearing that dc will just loop
which would be the best for me because then I can aim for psychic 3v3
old valve
Considering the "no limit set" thing on the exchange when they totally could've set it to "19 days left" or whatever at this point if it was ending, it's totally looping
royal jolt
The real question should be if the stages are in the exact same order
Or do we know that as well?
thin wren
If mine didn't show any new order then it means dena didn't touch anything
and it's the exact same order
rain copper
i hope they change the ordering at least
thin wren
would have shown up in datamine if they did pretty sure
true locust
If this loop gems get again. ? Not sure about it
Would be nice if they change order and stage rulles
Then we use different units
Since would be boring again do same
Cs is back but they have diffent rulles stage condition each time and types change
So cs is not exact the same
thin wren
they will probably do rdc to keep dc fresh
true locust
Rally is always diffrent too
Rest wat perma not change
So if dc will back they need change it
thin wren
I just hope they introduce new params in rdc
true locust
If no would be boring as hell
thin wren
Oh right they could add those
true locust
No status condition itc
thin wren
Imagine no strike tech field or sprint dc
thin wren
No status condition itc
that one we got 2 times in a row
imagine a param that nerfs speed by 80%
thin wren
There are so many better ways to counter sync spam tho
thin wren
yes but you can use support syncs
true locust
For damage any way
This not happend sync not count
They can reduce damage
Then no point sync spam
thin wren
Have they ever increased cd in any mode?
cloud timber
nope
true locust
Yeap
thin wren
imagine a dc with 18 sync cd
thin wren
there was 80% sync dmg reduced param back in the first ranked dc
yeh Nate destroyed that one
rain copper
cursive linden
Ah yes, Dragon DC
The only time Nate gets a real W
true locust
Only chage will be 5/5 upgrade pokefairs from dena
thin wren
Rdc will be monthly at least
thin wren
~~mfs 10/5 when ~~
royal jolt
I was leveling Arc Lance for the ranked DC at the time and thought of how screwed up it was to lock his nuke node behind 4/5
Now, I am absolutely sure it's screwed up
vagrant ivy
6969 nice
vagrant ivy
Now, I am absolutely sure it's screwed up
gotta get people to whale for yellow candies 
fluid anvil
for ghost 3v3 (not just for ranked, but also for normal 3v3) - could SSRC-Colress-F.Iono be better than SSRC-Colress-Yarrdenia?
Yarrdenia gives you faster SpDef debuffs and a Field zone.
But F.Iono gives AoE rebuff and her own damage from both B-move and sync is actually relevant and adds to the score, unlike Yarrdenias which is negligible
just not sure if F.Iono wastes too much time, she needs to use TM -> B-move -> Booster - > B-move -> Booster -> B-move
And they both have support EX, so you still get that
rain copper
does F Iono debuff spdef faster than Yarrdenia
fluid anvil
Yarrdenia debuffs faster, but F.Iono has AoE ghost rebuff
rain copper
wait nvm i can't read
on paper i think Fall Iono comp is better, not sure about in practice
misty forge
only more versatile unit would be arc steven (arguably, too)
Well blue is much easier to 3/5 while Steven wants 4/5 through 
, which is imo the big difference
cloud timber
i mean my 1/5 lv 100 arc steven is still cleaning many things even easier than blue can
he's strong to the point where i don't even want to fully level him up even with practically infinite resources because i don't want things to be too easy
but for gauntlet they still are lol
misty forge
Gauntlet is not a real mode
And idk about "many things" where Steven 1/5 can do better than blue 3/5
cloud timber
eh bigger point to me is that i'm actively afraid of steven's power lol
and nothing else comes remotely close to that
but a lot of it is sst red copypasta drilling its way into my head prob
fluid anvil
3/5 Blue is better than 3/5 Steven, the lack of Atk/SpAtk debuffs is big
even 4/5 Steven cant do everything - no status condition, WZT, speed buffs, sprint role etc. At 4/5 he is the best overll support though, no doubt
And in DC specifically blue is obviously vastly better than Steven
misty forge
Ye
The lack of offensive debuffs before 4/5 is huge
I've been using Steven 1/5 alongside Oleana in a lot of UBs because they just synergize so well
But 3/5 blue is usually better unless I'm using steel units or 2 Phys damage dealers
In a certain way it's just a matter of team build, imo those 2 are on par
5/5 Steven being ofc better than blue
Because of broken free sync tiles
If the arc passives actually costed normally... Steven would definitely be less insane
cloud timber
it is weird though bc i still fully believe that steven is better both defensively and offensively even with big move level disadvantage but i'm not big into getting into disagreeing discussions bc i never expect to change anyone's mind
and it's very legendary gauntlet/arena minded which won't apply to most people
i also don't even know how rational that is anyway
my opinion
misty forge
Well both clear the same amount of content in LA and both do it pretty easily
Don't they
Ofc the general discussion is useless in terms of power scaling because I doubt anyone can disagree on the fact we're comparing #1 and #2 units in the game so in general it comes down to how you see the unit in each context
fluid anvil
#1 and #2 supports in the game*
cloud timber
i do agree with that
i view ranking in terms of win power and those naturally bias towards supports as much as i love damage dealers
which are extremely prone to getting outclassed and shit on tbh
misty forge
Idc about Cynthia being giga broken because her 1/5 is hot ass garbage and you can still make do without her in all content by switching to another S or higher striker
As long as your support(s) is high enough, anything is clearable
Triple support exists after all
cloud timber
i'd say my biggest problem with discussing this game with anyone is how mean people get over mentioning damage dealers that aren't already uber tier it feels like
and i don't imagine that'll ever go away
misty forge
In general discussing fervently about a game with no hard content or PvP is mostly time wasted
Like, I really don't agree on how the tier list we use here is made but you don't see me crying about units being 1 or 2 tiers higher or lower than my opinion lol
Who cares
cloud timber
yeahhh best not engaged with but i'll still see it as long as i'm around here
fluid anvil
Triple support exists after all
triple support UB clears? cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kvQWlJxJkU
misty forge
triple support UB clears? cute <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>
https://www.yo...
Ah yeah
The one stage where supports are useless
Nice comeback
fluid anvil
it is because duo > full team 
the only UB that you can duo with 2 supports is probably Lucy?
anyway thats off-topic here, I'll stop
misty forge
Duo > full team only works when you consider an insane amount of investment and gem expense anyway, and is also extremely stage dependant
The reason strikers can duo is because the support is carrying, as that same support can keep alive even a team with barely any damage, while that same striker can't even win with 2 eggmons Vs Lucy, shake my head my head
vapid kernel
This Poison dc seems to hv been pretty boring
I need ST to come quicker so i can do all the troll clears
Lt Surge 1M
vagrant ivy
on god?
vagrant ivy
if we are talking about base
I can see 600 to 700k after EX and likely with chase for circle
hard to get much more given his base special attack
vagrant ivy
maybe we can get away with eerie impulse spam?
misty forge
Nah it's slow
vagrant ivy
oh right
misty forge
One stat debuff = sloe
vagrant ivy
isn’t clemont still gonna be better for f2p
vagrant ivy
hm
cursive linden
I need ST to come quicker so i can do all the troll clears
Chase nuke
vagrant ivy
yeah they take forever to set up accuracy and evasion respectively
that’s not something many supports can help with
teal lava
Actually shocked I managed this
No Geeta, no Oleana, Klara is 1/5 with no EX Role, Roxie is 2/5 with EX Role
cloud timber
should be this with tse melony and volkner for f2p, bunch of other options for premium though you'd likely have better damage dealers than surge too
chase, redlax, nc blue, sst red, some other terrain or rebuff that ideally has more than 10% para
ss hilbert
h jasmine for +28 spa with theme skills
oh yeah blue has rebuff though so he's still best
with faster setup
and clemont better for f2p still
volkner can run hilbert melony but he has no grid mults and won't have better premium options
but clemont needing too many buffs to max out and not self enabling melony means volkner better if no nc blue, lodge volkner peaks higher but needs to set -6 eva but he also has evasion himself
pallid girder
LVolkner's innate is eva debuff. It's actually a worse multiplier than speed debuff.
cloud timber
c elesa already got 2.1m in triple by skinny, with higher optimization she could peak higher than sst red with stats setup handled by nc blue and being able to run melony
5/5 required
pallid girder
The good thing about speed debuff is that we have few units can help set speed debuff while providing other utility like SC Steven.
Oh yes I forget LVolkner buff eva. It can help to mitigate his long setup time.
cloud timber
1 discharge 5 surfs to max evasion debuff but also buff, but 30% para if you aren't also running nc blue and you're going for 6 surfs
bc surf is much faster than discharge
and for enablers chase gets outclassed by nc blue bc no rebuffs
ss hilbert dps won't need gridded hilbert's aim to max rebuff
poison is so dry with the lesser options but electric is gonna fix that
pallid girder
I feel like ss Hilbert can dps to 1M again!
cloud timber
can do much better this time too with nc blue helping with rebuff
and extra damage with nc blue and elec terrain user syncs if you want to count that
safe prawn
Sstred ScSteven Melony imo
cloud timber
ye should be that for sst red, was way more of a struggle not having him and using nc blue
though elio > melony bc propelling move is less slow better than red tm gradual healing
and terrain eliminates the acc check too
weak jungle
i finally got 3/5 colress what’s the grid people use for him in the dc?
cloud timber
infliction freebie, go viral if multi
obv different for steel but otherwise this dodges all the time wastes
jagged obsidian
Got Melony 3/5
What grid to use for damage challenge?
normal parcel
You Just want the speed nodes and the accuracy nodes
Maybe team sharp entry if you need to top off crit
Or ramp up/precision if you need to buff special attack (but her buffing from tm is quite slow)
cloud timber
yeah that
racing rain if you're using ss lysandre in water where you can get status and rain and benefit from it
normal parcel
Works also with Archie
old valve
Finally got off my ass and did my champ stadium so my Plumeria is EX'd
Do I want any of the opponents to be poisoned or is it not worth it
cloud timber
likely worth it to poison just one of the sides but you'll have to try everything yourself to know for sure
old valve
Roger
And uhhh what were the better (non-oleana) teams being used with her again? ^^ I tried looking myself but it's all really far back in here at this point
cloud timber
plumeria + melony and i think redlax > nc blue with chase also being a stronger option
but that doesn't have a recording above 1m yet, idk if anyone ever managed that
she's not incredibly strong anyway
old valve
Yeah the only 1m I saw on a plumeria team was with Oleana in the back
And it was allegedly an rng struggle to get even that so
Lol
The Google doc mentioned something about BP Janine also? Is that an actual good option worth considering or
cloud timber
budget, worse than all the mentioned options but an accessible one
extra evasion to help plumeria not die and add support ex and have a relatively good speed stat for a support and theme skill
old valve
Got it lol
old valve
Rough start, couldn't beat the score I got in my Ariana runs for the first one there
Only got two syncs tho so that makes sense
If I get a bit luckier with para procs or dodges I can definitely hit 3 syncs
thick stump
one plumillion points
normal parcel
i should test archie thunder dps too
Probably mc Pikachu thunderbolt DPS would be better
vagrant ivy
sour lark
When I use PoMaTools to simulate it, Archie with rain gets 1303 top-end damage using Thunder
Pikachu with Power Reserves gets 1289 top-end damage (though Power Reserves is way harder to trigger than rain)
The thing you gotta know is that Archie's SpAtk is terrible
3/5 Master Pair sliiiiightly outdamages the pikachu we started with 
Maybe Archie's Super Rain 4 grid tile would make it more decisive but tbh use Hau
cloud timber
yeah super rain is playing a huge role and i have tech exr and skill gear to patch up the special attack
though we will need shower sync to maintain rain which i forgot to add in sooner so less thunder tiles and no para synergy and rainy propulsion
sour lark
Just doing this for meme shenanigans? I guess I can respect that
cloud timber
yeah i have my sst red ready to go for my actual attempts
the shenanigans are more exciting though
thin wren
I will just throw ss hau at it
long silo
Already used SST Red on 3v3 so I'll use him again
Would have liked to use NY Volkner but alas he's just 1/5
acoustic chasm
It's Nemona gaming for me (please just give her tech EXR already)
feral hamlet
So, we looking at another under 300k challenge?
No Oleana. No Klara. No SS Roxie. 1/5 Emma.
DC really wants you to know that the only good units of a type released 12-16 months ago
Geeta is good, right?
cloud timber
you definitely need a para user to set 2 paras to center and side so you can poison one since 2/5 geeta doesn't benefit from poison beyond unlocking b move
with nc blue ofc being ideal
well 2/5 does have virulent toxin but her b move isn't boosted
just better to set a single side poisoned regardless
normal parcel
you definitely need a para user to set 2 paras to center and side so you can poi...
Just use sing to sleep the center
feral hamlet
Darn, and I don't have enough to role ex her. That would have cinched 500k
normal parcel
Darn, and I don't have enough to role ex her. That would have cinched 500k
Just replace Steven with plumeria
2/5 non Rolex Geeta has no nuke
feral hamlet
Her B move did the most damage at the last second with 9 physical move next stacked
cloud timber
yeah that's basically what you should be doing
normal parcel
Yes, you with 1 MPR you can get +9 by herself
No need for steven
Plumeria at least can nuke
normal parcel
However I would try to start with sing on the center, it will weaken plumeria's sync but saves a lot of poison time (worth it if you can sneak an extra sync, otherwise don't do it)
feral hamlet
So she doesn't raise crit. I'll have to spend some of Melony's time to raise it?
normal parcel
Plumeria is 100% self sufficient
She can max her crit (but doesn't even need it, just pick build up and burst in)
Best part is that plumeria has guaranteed crit
Just use her tm at full gauge twice in a row
feral hamlet
I guess I have the wrong grid
Whenever I used her in CS, I always had to pair with a spatk and crit booster because she was awful at that
normal parcel
She's not awful at that, is just that in cs with max 4 gauge she can't max her stats
If you ditch the gauge -2 parameter, you can fully buff as long as you time tm correctly
Here you just wait to get back to full gauge after mortal spin and just queue 2 tm in a row at full gauge
You need +6 speed too for the nuke (and for melony spam)
feral hamlet
Unless that'll make up for the additional 200k, I must be missing something else
old valve
one plumillion points
Holy crap it was possible after all lol
royal jolt
I forgot to do rally this week
old valve
Too bad I don't think I'll be getting that myself before reset haha
Needs Red EXR I assume
royal jolt
Holy crap it was possible after all lol
it is! I spent the better part of the rotation doing it. I managed with Champion Blue, Plumeria, and Oleana
old valve
I meant "possible" as in "possible without oleana"
old valve
My excitement over that specific clear comes from my lack of Oleana ownership
royal jolt
My best was 900k without Oleana
cloud timber
still 24 hours before dc rollover
feral hamlet
The big problem here is I can't seem to land 2 syncs off Plumeria
royal jolt
poison zone isn't worth using if it's costing you that much time with geeta's b move
cloud timber
use geeta as second sync for her field ex and that'll last
feral hamlet
Okay, I'll have Geeta sync second for field instead
They just all attack so... much... 
cloud timber
also sing center first so when you mortal spin you don't poison center
feral hamlet
I already did a run like that. It wasn't great
So I managed to sync with Geeta second then Plumeria third and the end result wasn't that impressive. Might just call it here if this is it.
Got lucky and was able to sync 4 times. It isn't getting any better than this.
feral hamlet
I did that the previous attempt before this. I wasn't enough to close the gap
If I knew I was going to get lucky this run, I would have done it and it would have made a big difference
normal parcel
Unless that'll make up for the additional 200k, I must be missing something else
I said, you have to tm twice at MAX gauge, you have only +4 spatk and speed
normal parcel
Got lucky and was able to sync 4 times. It isn't getting any better than this.
Try to sing center before mortal spin, maybe you can get an extra sync,
By not poisoning the center you save 50% of the poison animations I think
cloud timber
yeah it's a massive time cost
normal parcel
With center not poisoned plumeria should be able tu sync 3 times at least I think
feral hamlet
I said, you have to tm twice at MAX gauge, you have only +4 spatk and speed
I had been doing this at least
feral hamlet
Try to sing center before mortal spin, maybe you can get an extra sync,
But what I did on that attempt is just kept singing center, so even though I canceled some moves, it still cost about the same amount of time
vernal condor
Looker did better than Emma lol
cloud timber
you only need to do it once to prevent center from being poisoned when you mortal spin
and then you switch to the sides to sing spam for no animations
feral hamlet
oh, well I'm way too tired to keep trying it, so maybe next time it comes back
or maybe even this Looker team here. If I even get 60% of that score, I'll have done better
royal jolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6rvyzfLgHk
ayo?
a new face?
royal jolt
o h
damn
I don't really keep up with the leaderboards. Mainly because I still kind of lack a few units at 3/5 to have a shot
royal jolt
It's cool to see them here, though!
true locust
just the top 1 dc player currently lol
Its in group? Or in yt only
Told chase is best:)
cloud timber
or maybe even this Looker team here. If I even get 60% of that score, I'll have ...
getting a good looker score is pretty heavily rng-based since he relies on tm mprs for seuns for his syncs
it's why no one would want to recommend it since even if you do that it's still worse than plumeria
vernal condor
Its in group? Or in yt only
idk
thin wren
the top comp is about expected
royal jolt
SS N's EXR unlocked
I love him
thin wren
wonder how he will do in st
thin wren
Told chase is best:)
most ideal scenario for chase as well. Spammer is 2 gauge, DD needs dodges to make up for extra wtz anim and rebuff and wtz are already covered so chase can showcase all his specialities
vernal condor
wonder how he will do in st
better than in 3v3 without exr thats for sure
thin wren
how much did he get in 3v3
royal jolt
top score is 1.3M I think
royal jolt
I can't wait to whip out my SS Silver
thin wren
unfortunately even when 3v3 comes back Red will be the better option
cloud timber
ss hilbert is going to carry my single ice when ghetsis and 1/5 ss n inevitably fail to push more than a few hundred k
thin wren
ss hilbert is going to carry my single ice when ghetsis and 1/5 ss n inevitably ...
I will probably use ss Hilbert on ice as well lmao
Hopefully 3/5 is enough
royal jolt
it's such a shame his sync is Bug Buzz
cloud timber
i have the 2 candies to boost ss hilbert to 5/5 but i still don't wanna do it right away
but i very likely will soon
royal jolt
he's at 4/5 for me at the moment. I need that runback with 3v3 bug
thin wren
i have the 2 candies to boost ss hilbert to 5/5 but i still don't wanna do it ri...
I'd suggest saving candies for an unit that absolutely needs 4/5 or 5/5
like Lear
normal parcel
But what I did on that attempt is just kept singing center, so even though I can...
Wait, you aren't supposed to keep singing, you have to sing only turn one to block poison, then you have to sing spam the poisoned sides
The whole point is that you don't want center poisoned, and you can't poison it if is sleeping, but it need to sleep only 1st turn
After that you only spam sing on the poisoned units
long silo
Did anyone try SS Silver in 3v3 Ice
feral hamlet
Wait, you aren't supposed to keep singing, you have to sing only turn one to blo...
Didn't think of that.
Smog is also almost good to burn turns with because of how bad the accuracy is and how often they attack to waste time
royal jolt
I just got him to 3/5 today so I'm considering
He's pretty nice for the challenge, both 3v3 and 3v1. Also, you have a very powerful unit even outside of DC
long silo
Just not yet sure if I can EXR but it's nice there's an option now
I'd say he's... 4th in line
royal jolt
yeah, I wish I could attempt the run without Silver's EXR so I could see if it's that much of a game-changer, but alas
long silo
Suffering from success (?)
long silo
The other two are me basically needing more Striker/Support for BR
But also Bianca buffs Rei. Lol
royal jolt
I threw so hard by not scouting for Bianca
thin wren
I've only got NC Marnie. I dunno if I wanna EXR her though
it's worth it
royal jolt
I needed Bianca. But, at the same time, my special Flying-types were in dire need of help
long silo
Technically I want Jacq to jump in line, but his 1/5 is not doing anything lol
thin wren
I needed Bianca. But, at the same time, my special Flying-types were in dire nee...
same
long silo
I waited until last minute for Bianca
thin wren
I am happy with cheren
long silo
July being my empty month helped me decide
royal jolt
My best at the time was the very same Blue we get at the start of the game
long silo
Because I also went for Cheren first
thin wren
I can't wait for the 25th
long silo
Amen
royal jolt
scores should jump further up with the new strats
thin wren
I even have chase and rosa ready for him
thin wren
scores should jump further up with the new strats
Lear wil get 5 mil imo
royal jolt
I don't have him T~T
long silo
I want to try SS Steven once again, but my actual attempt will be Lear
thin wren
1.7 mil with unoptimised gears in st and nc blue was being used because no one wanted to suffer the rng of Chase
royal jolt
I'm running SS Lusa or SS Steven
royal jolt
I wonder if I can actually make a fight for the leaderboards this time DC resets completely
I absolutely have the determination and insanity for it, but not the units
thin wren
I will fight in 3v3
Psychic
Rdc I only have the optimal diantha comp with the correct investment so not going for rdc top 500 this time unlike last time
long silo
My highest on regular was... hmmm idk between 3v3 Fairy or 3v3 Fighting
royal jolt
I've got +100 Atk. on Diantha ready to go for rock
her EXR should make this much easier
thin wren
My highest on regular was... hmmm idk between 3v3 Fairy or 3v3 Fighting
mine was 4.5 mil in fairy
(I completely copied another clear)
long silo
4.2m in Fairy. My Fighting is 3.5m (I could have gotten to 4m but RNG is pain)
royal jolt
my highest is 3.02M on 3v3 Ice
long silo
In terms of rank, Fighting is at 18. Idk Fairy
royal jolt
I can't wait for the rerun
oooh, I am two candy coins away from Zerena's 3/5
with her and Arc Lance, I am now fully covered for Dragon DCs
vapid kernel
I thought electric st was today hmm
royal jolt
next reset
vapid kernel
Does Bug 3v1 or Dark 3v1 come first when the rotation reruns?
pallid girder
I've heard that the rotation is exactly the same as the first run.
primal blade
Ground dc tmr
tomorrow is ST electric xD
primal blade
if u got SC Steven use him, he debuffs all the stats that SSTR needs
also gives rebuff for extra dmg
and ofc SEUP
long silo
Elio for buff
warped gulch
The problem is his Tm give Aoe GH
Which is really bad
So Elio just better bc he can fully buff Red with Tm mpr
primal blade
So Elio just better bc he can fully buff Red with Tm mpr
oh god, 20% MPR, this will be painful
wait, does GH triggers even when full hp?
warped gulch
Yes
primal blade
dayum
pallid girder
In 3v3 ppl were using NC Blue + Elio and Thunder Shock 6 times to debuff speed.
lethal siren
Oh
pallid girder
Thankfully thunder shock is extremely fast animation move.
lethal siren
But opponent also increases speed by 2 right?
primal blade
But opponent also increases speed by 2 right?
isn't it by 1?
cloud timber
by 2 always
primal blade
ah
lethal siren
2
warped gulch
X item always gives more than 2
primal blade
well wouldnt ignoring cakewalk still be enough to get at least 1mil?
lethal siren
So 8 thunder shock
lethal siren
well wouldnt ignoring cakewalk still be enough to get at least 1mil?
Yes
For 1m
That's fine
Make elio target
Impatient 1
primal blade
ye, i just dread that 20% MPR XD
and if i want to get as high score as possible, i would also want to fish at least 1 mpr on SC Steven SEUP
cloud timber
you can use his tm and run melony but you'll just be 4 moves slower
having to wear out gradual healing
normal parcel
Didn't think of that.
Smog is also almost good to burn turns with because of how...
You already have sing, just spam that, opponent will eventually run out of gauge so spamming 1 move is fine
You are just supposed to setup and then spam sing on a poisoned unit and sync, you can try to fish for MPR on Geeta to get 3 extra pmuns for the finisher
vapid kernel
I've heard that the rotation is exactly the same as the first run.
I know, thts why im asking :3
fiery rose
What's this week's DCs again
warped gulch
ST Electric -> MT Ground
safe prawn
MT aka how many times will arc Cynthia refresh her tm
thin wren
She need 3 mp resfresh
I love rng
true locust
Me not🤣
fiery rose
are the main dds for the next dcs clear?
ST Grass, AOE Flying, ST Ice
So probably yes.
Assuming you meant the ones after these two
fiery rose
Breathing is RNG, 95 acc
normal parcel
Even with 0 MPR i'm pretty sure arc Cynthia will still be the best unit
fluid anvil
ofc
and she doesnt need 3 MPR
you do 4 total Cynthia syncs (after blue and melony), but the first one is without zone, it doesnt matter
you want a TM for the next 3 syncs = 3 TMs total = 2 MPR procs.
the main RNG isnt that, but enough para procs to have time to use those 3 TMs and still have 6 syncs + 1 B-move
If you have 5/5 and good gear and get 4 syncs (3 of them TM boosted) - potential for 7M+
4 syncs with 2 TMs gets you 6M+, thats how I had 6M in ranked
fluid anvil
if you all do syncs with WZT - it wont last until the end. And setting it again = too slow
Better 4 syncs, 1-st without WZT, then use sandstorm and next 3 - all with TMs
lethal siren
Just exed elio for tmr
civic island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6rvyzfLgHk
noice
Damn circle expired right at the end
lethal siren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6rvyzfLgHk
crude sandal
Wow, these 2-gauge moves really piss me off
vagrant ivy
all my homies hate dazzling gleam
crude sandal
I didn't even get a 2nd SS Roxie sync because of that damned X Speed All combined with the 2-gauge moves
vagrant ivy
and play rough which never misses despite being 90 base acc
crude sandal
Roxie's base innate actually sucks
Also her B Move poisoned someone
And that really slowed me down
crude sandal
What's the best team again?
crude sandal
ST electric tomorrow
crude sandal
Looks like it's overrated rat time again
crude sandal
Nemona's UB is made for NC Rosa and SS Lana
crude sandal
That's why SS Lana is there
crude sandal
And you also need negative status change
crude sandal
Psychic-weak with negative status change required, definitely NC Rosa especially since Nemona debuffs your tank's defensive stats each hit and NC Rosa has Force Field and Shielded
crude sandal
That depends
true locust
May caked 5/5 10E and sabrina sc caked
And gardedian summer for confusion and sts drops
crude sandal
Bellelba and Anni May? That should've been easy IMO
Especially since you have 4 or more PT sets
true locust
And they lost not even close win mid was down sides kill me
crude sandal
Which is why it's made for SS Lana
crude sandal
She infinitely reapllies PT along with dealing good damage
crude sandal
Normal def they raise too
Did you apply negative status change?
true locust
Masked is easy just poison
Yeap confusion
But issue they cure after 2/3 moves
And set alot time terrains
crude sandal
Confusion wears off very fast because, you know, very high resistance
crude sandal
Well TBF, Nemona does cure all negative status change every time she syncs
crude sandal
Friend Care 9
That's why
Nemona's passive of curing negative status change to the team is specifically for rebuffs
true locust
Nemona make all off us cry trust me
crude sandal
Ironically, another reason why it's made for NC Rosa
Because she puts rebuffs twice on the enemy team
crude sandal
And also, if you use neither Teeter Dance nor her B Move and use her TM instead to prevent the fighting rebuff from triggering, then she will help boost SS Lana's B Move damage
true locust
It will be pain when nemona apear
crude sandal
Now that I think about it
Just like with how Irida is the main gimmick counter for Nita and NC Red is the burst damage dealer, NC Rosa and SS Lana are the gimmick counters and Lear/Hoopa with his EXR will be the burst
@true locust What do you think?
Also, all 3 of them have some form of sync ramping
true locust
Depend when rebuff is gone
crude sandal
Depend when rebuff is gone
Rebuff is gone only when Nemona syncs
true locust
Nc rosa lana and? Alot choise
crude sandal
Not Elio
He doesn't have PT until he syncs
And unless left side is dead, then there's always infinite ET on the enemy
Anyways, back on topic
@true locust What's your team tomorrow?
Melony/SST Red/SC Steven?
true locust
Elio red and sc stevens
crude sandal
Ah yeah, that's right
true locust
Melony not work whit red tmp sadly
crude sandal
No using Red's TM
true locust
In dc yes
In ub this help kanto trio
Take all off then
Haha poor rats
Nemona eat them
thin wren
btw for 3v3 psychic when do ya all plan on using Lear tm, before last sync?
true locust
This ub stage no chance win use rats
thin wren
Haha poor rats
weather and e terrain ubs counter rats hard unfortunately
true locust
Same go to masked royal
thin wren
mr rats should destroy
thin wren
any status
true locust
No poison no crit
thin wren
Para also works on him
true locust
Maybe i did poison since was say he need poison
thin wren
any status disables his robust phyqisue and tripled defense passive
true locust
Maybe para do same?
thin wren
it does
crude sandal
Robust Physique is countered by any status condition in general
Same for No Status Condition: Def. and Sp. Def. x3
royal jolt
Damn
Why they have to give Looker Superduper Effective instead of Super Powered?
fluid anvil
wtf is this the UB channel ?
misty forge
Damn
Why they have to give Looker Superduper Effective instead of Super Powered?
Super powered was extremely rare
royal jolt
I wonder how good sleep spam will be, since the animation is much longer if used in Electric Terrain
fallen trail
im ngl i completely forgot about that
fluid anvil
I wonder how good sleep spam will be, since the animation is much longer if used...
??
fallen trail
well actually
if we assume they’re paralyzed it shouldn’t matter right
paralysis still does the fast animation
royal jolt
I'll try it right now
thin wren
I wonder how good sleep spam will be, since the animation is much longer if used...
et makes the anim even shorter
vernal condor
paralysis still does the fast animation
paralysis still checks for accuracy
royal jolt
okay, I guess not
vernal condor
not terrain
thin wren
it's faster than sing spam on para
royal jolt
we'll be fine then. Lovely
vernal condor
e terrain is basically 100% acc sing spam
royal jolt
I'm running Red, Melony, and SC Steven
cursive linden
Chase Nuke
fluid anvil
SS Roxie somehow got almost 5.5M, wut
thin wren
red blue and elio
no sc Steven?
fallen trail
he wants someone else to buff his atk
cursive linden
no sc Steven?
They probably want double support
royal jolt
red’s tm is bad
good point
shoot
cursive linden
And re🅱️uffs
vernal condor
SS Roxie somehow got almost 5.5M, wut
skill gears
fallen trail
1 less rebuff but he does debuff the right stats
thin wren
more multipliers and faster set up
fluid anvil
eh, not that suprising
yes it is
vernal condor
skill gears literally inflate numbers by up to 45%
thin wren
roxie has a strong af aoe nuke with the trifecta of circle rebuff and zone
vernal condor
i'm not that surprised that top score are that high
thin wren
both
vernal condor
good passive with good stats
fluid anvil
all the debuffing and zone/circle take time
and Roxie has only one 90% sync multiplier
and also Oleana status spam is 2 gauge
I didnt expect it to go THAT high
thin wren
chase makes the 2 gauge cost fine
he's extremely good at maintaining gauge
Roxie has the trifecta backing up her strong nuke
the time lost can be made up with by dodging everything with chase
delicate junco
Akira sliding under the 1:40 mark
thin wren
wrong time based format
delicate junco
I didnt see a room for top speed
royal jolt
Holy crap
Good end to this rotation
fluid anvil
Roxie >> geeta
normal parcel
Holy crap
Good end to this rotation
Melony > rosa
That team can easily get over 2m
royal jolt
oh, yeah
I just wanted to use Rosa for a run
every time Bede lands the attack drop on Play Rough, part of me dies
normal parcel
With melony you should be able to easily score over 2m with the right strat
royal jolt
Yeah. I always get so impossibly close before winding up at 1.8M
royal jolt
Bede got two Atk. drops followed by a Sp.Def drop by the side
I think I'm done :)
glossy token
next ex is up! current plans for the upcoming sequence are ex elesa for elec single (i already have her ex and none of my other techs are hugely appealing to invest in); exr arc cyn for ground triple; probably ex brendan again for grass single; and ex blue for flying triple. given that, im thinking of exing one of the following:
- melony (still only 1/5, but would mean i could use her as a sync spammer on faster teams instead of elio and not lose my supp sync)
- og lillie (not necessarily great for dc in particular, but has great sustain and support for other modes)
- sonia (reactive passive but also just really good; prob also meshes nicely with elesa coming up)
- a phys flying unit (lodge skyla for strike, lodge serena for tech)
- hala since all my ices are atrocious anyway??
- 1/5 aaron for the same as melony but def order spam
- a secret seventh (i think i counted that right) option i didnt think of (sygna leon?? poppy?? etc)
crossposting this from #1217072266878124122 bc of the dc-relevance in particular/that being my main interest and the most relevant factor
cloud timber
melony easy, big boost to dc scores and nothing else is as remotely essential even in other modes
cloud timber
yep
glossy token
o7
maybe exing her will hint to the game that she should show up in any of my pulls a second/third time lmao
cloud timber
even if she doesn't it'll be fine
icy pendant
Melony also doesn’t really need her grid, if anything I’ve found her speed stat tiles on grid to be decent value as well
glossy token
so precision pals from her tm to boost the 40acc isnt as necessary?
vernal condor
We almost never use it
it's only used when she wants to tm to buff an ally, which isnt often
warped gulch
You only get it if you need to use her Tm anyway
glossy token
gotcha
still hearth
royal jolt
He's worth it in general
If you just wanna bream 1M though, I dunno if he needs 3/5. Then again, idk the numbers at 1- or 2/5 since mine is 3/5
lusty galleon
vapid kernel
Ash sak
cloud timber
gonna try 5/5 ss hilbert to set cakewalk
might actually be slower than just using thunder shocks though
just nc blue isn't needed for his speed or buffs or para so it's an option
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long silo
Unless Geeta is not caked, her
rotund sierra
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long silo
I'd personally go Colress and Redlax, unless you'll play with Geeta's MPR
I've seen people poison only one side
To get more sync
rotund sierra
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sacred badger
gl
long silo
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Yep