#Damage Challenge

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and posthaste is 100% so itll proc on every brutal swing

normal parcel
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I guess if it costs you a whole sync isn't worth

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ill try it but

cloud timber
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i think it manages to not waste time under no status param like in ranked

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but only then

normal parcel
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Didn't no status in ranked just slowed down any status attempt?

cloud timber
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the interaction with hot to the touch was different and so would static cling be in theory

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but it did slow down status moves

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god damnit i misclicked blast burn instead of sync

latent plover
misty forge
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Why even bring Anni N when leaf is literally there

latent plover
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Because I want to

misty forge
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I mean it kinda defeats the purpose

latent plover
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The purpose was for Anni N to be the focus here. This was why I was attacking with him

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Sure Leaf can go twice as high but that's not the point

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I wanted to try a team for N before doing a better score with Leaf

copper otter
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Another factor. What if the user using NCleaf was 1/5.

misty forge
latent plover
copper otter
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She doesn't have the nuke power.

latent plover
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She needs the nuke

copper otter
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She's relying on power play at 3/5

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i think its also valid for people with thinner rosters to have examples

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not everyone has everything, diversity in clears is helpful

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goddamn go figure. even missing 2 sync crits gordie got sygna red to 520k

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i'll record it and farm for crits ig

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ok im gonna reroll for one that actually clears 500 but if anyone has notes

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heres the video of 1/5 gordie 4/5 exr sygna red 3/5 ex bp barry

sacred badger
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gordie gaming?

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oh wat ss red

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how do you get him to atk up? let him sync first, then pop his tms?

glossy token
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yeah

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farm for propulsion procs off dire hit if you can, then you can get to the barry spamming easier

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and time gordie's max flare for 49s

sacred badger
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whats your current damage?

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best score is 520k

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which beats the best i had with blaine, which was 465k

cloud timber
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last sync didn't have trap

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2 rebuff is worth giving up redlax para and his exes

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@misty forge holy shit

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.... i forgot i was recording

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oops

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sorry mael theres either gonna be a discord cameo or an edited out portion

cloud timber
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rng requirement for 6 total syncs with all of blaine's at max multipliers seems a bit too steep to bother with more

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also i lacked cs2 on gordie for that run

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but melony/gordie pans out well in general

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just have to reset for coin flip burn on first brutal swing if you don't have any setup left to do

glossy token
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why do all the old units have inertia and no way to boost their own speed

cloud timber
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dunno which you're talking about

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silver has fast track on grid so he can do it, just not viable for dc

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i mean yeah and brendan has it as a passive but

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its still a roll its not even ft9

cloud timber
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yeah that's just power creep

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you get everything for free now

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just a very different way the units are designed that i have to reorient my brain to from seeing inertia on the grid and then going. wait

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im too stingy to invest this hard in my bluecanine bc i have sygna red but my guess is this is how youd get comparable f2p numbers without powerboost silver

delicate junco
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self sufficient units were considered crazy and broken, like ss red

rain copper
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Bluecanine is worse than Red

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Unless your Red is also 1/5

cloud timber
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you could hardly pick a worse possible investment lol

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delicate junco
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Remember when sync orbs were co op sync orbs

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god

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remember co-op

delicate junco
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man its kinda wild that for a while this game had a co op focus

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remember when gio/m2 dropped

delicate junco
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and that stuff like Pass It On or Power Chain are gastly reminders

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remember how he wasnt a permanently accessible unit

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oh no honey what is you doin

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i do miss battle villa

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i wish you could choose battle villa or battle rally

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but

delicate junco
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i think the most recent letter mentioned something about more modes that have players interact

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dare i hope for a return to co op?

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also speaking of another support who does nothing

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cheren

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a unit i have used all of maybe twice ever

delicate junco
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i mean he has a grid now, maybe he can be used in content that has nasty conditions or something

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that said, nobody wants full heal over like, a potion

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anyways it seems we got sidetracked

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my best wiith Anni N on this DC is 380k

cloud timber
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3/5 ex?

delicate junco
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yes

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i have been informed you dont want to paraspam for anni n

cloud timber
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teammates being

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you want to noble roar spam

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bc its 2 stats so it works like status or aaron's defend order

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so for teammates you prob want to bring others to help get stats as low as possible as fast as possible

delicate junco
past geyser
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someone tried talonflame?

cloud timber
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don't think anyone here has invested malva no

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you probably want to swap out redlax for someone else to help drop stats

delicate junco
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Available 6* supports

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maybe dc hugh?

cloud timber
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nc blue or ss hilbert would be ideal

delicate junco
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i have neither

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if i had those i would have used them lol

cloud timber
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yea

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and no sc steven either right

past geyser
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how many tickets do you have rn

delicate junco
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sc?

cloud timber
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special costume, shiny stoutland

past geyser
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Ex for blaaaiiinnn

delicate junco
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nope

cloud timber
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i'm not sure there's anyone under the impression malva was "good"

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tbh

delicate junco
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i returned from a 2 year hiatus about a month ago

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so im severly lacking units from the 2023-2024 eras

past geyser
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as a nuker... I think I could make 700k, it's better than any other f2p right now.

glossy token
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if you have enough units to pick up a unit, genuinely dc hugh might be the move to enable anni n here

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growl will give you a second noble roar per round, he has hs1 as a passive, his tm is a sync counter accel

cloud timber
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are we using this grid with anni n yet

thick holly
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i hate this game

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i got 4 syncs with no crit

royal jolt
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I need 2/5 Chase so bad for the guaranteed para. It's not fair T~T

thick holly
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why 2/5 ?

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doesn't he already have guaranteed para ?

royal jolt
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yes, but I meant guaranteed para on TShock

delicate junco
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if thats the case would lucian work

glossy token
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no

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lucian is -atk with bonus -spdef

delicate junco
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im aware

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noble roar is -atk -spatk

cloud timber
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hugh is a downgrade from redlax really

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and what you want is to render noble roar inert

delicate junco
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correct

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delicate junco
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sp.d drops means more damage though

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or is combining growl with roar not the goal?

cloud timber
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is his growl even faster than noble roar

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what you want is to get mawile to -6/-6 as quickly as possible so you can then use noble roar the same way you would para/sing spam

delicate junco
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so....another noble roar user, then

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like how you get aaron to +6/+6 as fast as possible to use defend order that same way

cloud timber
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and even if it is how is it outdoing support/sprint with seun

delicate junco
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there's ghetsis i guess

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yes, but kyurem would hurt you way more than it would help

cloud timber
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wh-why

delicate junco
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welp

cloud timber
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you can just use noble roar....

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no need to outsource

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i mean

cloud timber
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if you want more debuffs you're looking more for things that don't conflict

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but idk if that's worth

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gordie can be viable

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what move level is your morty

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does he have sunburst or nah

delicate junco
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2

delicate junco
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and is he exr

delicate junco
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no

cloud timber
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i'd almost want to put gordie in place of ss morty but redlax does not carry gauge and gordie's posthaste isn't cutting it

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for noble roar spam

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i genuinely dont know that hes the best thing in your team yeah

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you want his exr for sun on sync

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redlax into sygna morty into anni n gives you enough time to get to -6/-6 from just noble roar but

delicate junco
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im pretty sure you always want 2 support eX if possible

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its also just slow, and youre not getting much out of it

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au contraire

cloud timber
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it's not overly important to where sc steven isn't a frequent mention around here despite having no support ex

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colress too

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its nice if you can, but if its actively impairs your damage....

cloud timber
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the first support ex is far more valuable than the second

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cloud timber
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yeah but he contributes almost nothing

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it gets you to the sync rush phase faster so that you can focus the time resource on getting truth will prevail up for +6

cloud timber
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speed leech does not work on growl btw

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pretty sure

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i know

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you dont want it to do you?

cloud timber
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you would to max n's innate

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or approach it anyway

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redlax can throw a body slam or two

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but bedes tm is +speed

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so you dont want to be going for -speed bc youd need an extra -2 to max

cloud timber
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yeah but nullifying that speed is important too as it turns out

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you could give hugh a shot if you had him already but he's not worth grabbing just for this

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redlax is still vastly more reliable and proven

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im not thinking you replace redlax

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im thinking you replace morty

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bc at 2/5 he is basically there to set sun and nothing else

cloud timber
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rip gauge

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and otherwise an active hindrance in a lot of ways

cloud timber
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nope

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he isnt exr

cloud timber
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that's fine

delicate junco
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yeah the gauge is a bit of a problem with NR spam

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2/5 he has sunny day mpr, his tm doesnt benefit n at all and actively wants to wait for sun to be up before he touches it, he burns time with team sunbathe, and he has no stat reduction

chilly prawn
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Whats the 4 mil team?

cloud timber
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i have used him, yes

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other sun users aren't debuffing beyond gordie who is much worse on gauge

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and it's ok to not max his innate

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also he gets to use 2 full health potions at start

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sunny disposition also helps with play rough debuffs

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worst case you can swap over to silver or even blaine bc at least those definitely get above 500k and with accessible teammates esp if we have exr redlax already

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but you'd need max attack skill gear

stoic crest
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What is the best option for this? I have stuff like red lax and champion blue too. Please ping me

rain copper
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I think NC Leaf is your best bet, but DC experts might have better ideas

cloud timber
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yeah prob that

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And will 1/5 be enough?

cloud timber
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nc blue + melony would be fine

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chase would be a bit more ideal but not necessary

stoic crest
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I have him at 1/5

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I have never used him honestly

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cloud timber
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1/5 should still have 40% of 3/5's output

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for 1m no

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in theory

stoic crest
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So basically sync with blue then melody then leaf?

cloud timber
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yeah, i'd leer 4 times

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oh no solar sync would be another big blow to her output though so that one might make her struggle

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and no drought alert

stoic crest
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Honestly being master fair and top tier she seems long term worth of candy right?

cloud timber
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def

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I'll just candy her

cloud timber
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works

stoic crest
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Can you post grids?

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Please

cloud timber
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typical cs2/ww3/sp3 on nc leaf, nc blue tanks

stoic crest
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And reset if blue doesn't paralyze right?

cloud timber
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yeah you need first turn para but it's 90%

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so it's actually 3 leers and b move shortly before her first sync appears to be the play

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uhhh remove blue's top left tile

stoic crest
icy pendant
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leaf does that all herself with 3 leers + b move so no need to waste the time with the passive

cloud timber
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yeah it's overkill if you're using 3 leers and b move

stoic crest
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Ah that makes sense

cloud timber
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i don't have nc leaf so i'm learning on the fly

stoic crest
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So blue does discharge and tm moves, leaf does Lear and b move no tm, and melody just sings.

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Right?

cloud timber
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yeah

stoic crest
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And don't do the b move until right before sync right?

cloud timber
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yeah

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it can probably be anywhere between the second support sync and leaf's first when solar sync comes into play and overwrites that sun

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but that works

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might be worth removing solar sync though

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dunno

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that's just what the best recording used

tribal flax
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if it hasnt yet been added you can look in the pending submissions tab

teal haven
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cloud timber
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yoooo nice

fallen trail
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i know no one pulled for her in this economy but whats the best score malva's gotten if anyone knows

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im curious

cloud timber
stoic crest
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Why would anyone pull for a pair that's going to be added to Gen pool in a few weeks?

long silo
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We have this thing called Favoritism

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But those same people may not care about DC anyway

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Or like me with incomplete investment

pallid girder
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Yeah many casual players don't even know about sing spam still and do 100~200k only and think it's fine.

long silo
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But if Malva is on the same power level as Archer then she can possibly 1m

old valve
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Not sure how to approach this one tbh

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1/5 Alt Gloria or 3/5 Anni N...?

pallid girder
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3/5 anni N can do 1M, but need SS Morty + either SS Hilbert, NC Blue or NC Bianca

old valve
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I have Morty, Hilbert, and Blue out of that list, soooooo

long silo
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Didn't 1/5 Alt Gloria almost reached 900k

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I remember someone posted here, but I forgot the actual team

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But if 3/5 Anni N can do it anyway then that works

old valve
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Who's my countdown machine if I do a comp with SS Hilbert and N together

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Also knowing me I'll probably need someone else's Anni N grid lol

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Any have one they could drop?

pallid girder
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N can spam himself by Noble roar. 2 bar spam tho so rmb use Morty's tm wisely to always have mga on field.

cloud timber
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morty is good at providing gauge but ss hilbert's charging infliction can actually help since you're running out regardless

old valve
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Thank you invert, may your daily summon 1 hour and 50 minutes from now bestow upon you a limited unit

civic island
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No matter what I do, I'm always gonna miss one of the last sync crits LarryDead no 4M for me

long silo
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How many Leaf syncs was this

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I did 2 Support Sync and 5 Leaf Sync, and my score is 2.4m (2.6m if I did not miss one crit)

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Is this a severe skill issue on my part or what LarryDead

old valve
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3/5 Morty with EXR tho

cloud timber
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could honestly be better without charging infliction

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but grid tm mpr on morty

old valve
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Would sunny day mpr be worth it or nah

cloud timber
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don't need to press it with field ex

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does nothing

old valve
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Oh right field ex gives you long sun

cloud timber
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with that composition though you'll use sun once

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i haven't tried that one specifically but what i did use was nc blue over ss hilbert

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click sunny day any time after the 50 second mark and it'll last

civic island
long silo
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How come we have 1m+ difference LarryDead

old valve
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I'll give SSHilb/SSMorty a try first and do NCBlue/SSMorty if that doesn't work out

civic island
old valve
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Oh right morty's sync will like. Actually deal damage.

civic island
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And good gears

old valve
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I'm not used to supports doing that

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I guess I'll toss sync nodes in if I have space

long silo
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Are you at 30%+ sync gear or what lol

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I have CS2 but I don't think SP3 is that huge of a difference (and the 10 level)

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So ye besides level, LS, and gear, we do basically the same

old valve
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This grid feels like a war crime

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But I think it's the best I can do?

pallid girder
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His sync will do 2000 or so at most. Don't really expect it too much.
On the other hand I used a 3/5 SS Hilbert and his last blow hit 100k.

cloud timber
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sunny disposition helps prevent attack lower animations if play rough procs but if you aren't running anything else you could throw headstrong ls on

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could use that to grab the other sync node though it's a bit close to negligible

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by "anything else" i mean hs1/adr1 specifically, headstrong is next best after i would think

old valve
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Wouldn't team gimme five slow things down?

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Or is it under the sync timer freeze or smthn

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Also now that I'm giving it a try I'm kinda confused as to what my best order of operations is here

cloud timber
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the speed buff matters even if it's +1

old valve
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Ahhh, gotcha

cloud timber
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also you aren't looking for or have the gauge to fit in more than 5 total syncs most likely

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bc that's how it is for nc blue and he reaches +6 speed instantly

old valve
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Rn I'm doing

Morty TM Metal Sound Noble Roar
Metal Sound Noble Roar
Metal Sound Noble Roar
Noble Roar Techno Blast

Morty Sync Metal Sound N TM
Metal Sound N Dire Hit+
Metal Sound N Dire Hit+
Metal Sound N TM

N Sync Metal Sound
Metal Sound Noble Roar
Metal Sound Noble Roar

And then just spamming Metal Sound and using Morty TM/Sunny Day as nessecary

Does that sound right or am I missing something important here

cloud timber
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use potions on full health targets at the start

old valve
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I seem to miss some fundamental part of damage challenge every time I-

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Yeah that'd do it

cloud timber
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easiest to forget part tbf

old valve
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I just didn't know

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Lol

cloud timber
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yea

old valve
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Okay so uhhhh

cloud timber
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3 metal sounds will max out

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noble roar is the spammable one

old valve
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Oh Metal Sound isn't spammable?

cloud timber
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no point in using metal sound more unless you were using charging infliction

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yeah moves that buff/debuff only one stat are slower

old valve
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Goootcha

pallid girder
cloud timber
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yeah david has run the specific team comp so follow that

old valve
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The noble roar/metal sound/techno blast shenanigans before first sync don't need MGA? Huh.

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Da more ya know.

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So in thaaaat case

pallid girder
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You need to slightly switch between Noble roar and tm.

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N has 3 tms need to be used before his 1st sync, so swithching between tm and noble roar is enough for you to live without mga.

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Oh wait I forgot N's tm has mga lol.

old valve
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Sooooo

Metal Sound Potion N TM
Metal Sound Noble Roar Potion
Metal Sound N Dire Hit+
Techno Blast

Morty Sync Noble Roar
Noble Roar Morty TM
Noble Roar
Noble Roar
Noble Roar
Noble Roar
N TM

N Sync
Noble Roar/Morty TM/Sunny Day as applicable

Something like this?

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I'll give it a try and see how it goes

cloud timber
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could delay techno blast to after first sync

old valve
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Oh good point actually

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The techno itself probably deals more damage than morty's sync lol

cloud timber
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yes

old valve
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Do I still need Morty TM MPR also or nah

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The grid you sent earlier didn't have it so

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Making sure to run headstrong this time also

cloud timber
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hard to know really

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run with what you have and change it to what you need

old valve
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Fair enough

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I'll rock with this for the moment and switch over to a grid without TM MPR if I didn't need it

cloud timber
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yea that's good

old valve
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Bideo games

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Not sure if I can turn this into 1mil tbh but

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I'm preeeetty happy with this nonetheless

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I think that was 3 syncs from N?

normal parcel
copper otter
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So i have 2/5 Alt gloria now.

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....gotta wait another 18 tech coins MinaSmile

pallid girder
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Alt Gloria can do 1M in 3 different dc so she's definitely worth the investment.

vapid kernel
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Yall need to know tht i cudve chosen between nc serena or alt gloria for giving 2 candies

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And i gave it to Gloria cus shes also op in LG

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And giving me 1M in 3 Dc yes

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Can someone tell me what the damage multiplier is if defenses are at -6 ?

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Compared to at -0

cloud timber
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6 stats is normally 1.8x so with mitigation 5 maybe it's 1.4x

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also i think ss lysandre should be pretty safely above 1m in water single now with ss kris sprint

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gets an extra sync and more smun

vernal condor
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Dont wanna push so we take those

copper otter
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So chat, what do you think will be the hell that will be Ranked DC next month?

cloud timber
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nessa has a shot of outperforming but she needs to land 8 rock tombs to max cakewalk lol

copper otter
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I'm expecting Ghost/Steel/Dark tbh

true locust
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Next ranked fire dark rock

copper otter
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Oooh interesting choice with rock

long silo
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I don't think there will be ranked DC next month?

copper otter
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They place ranked DC between HSEs and LGs

true locust
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After lg end it happend

vapid kernel
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Why do i feel like there was ranked dc every month

copper otter
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So the schedule is DC > HSE > DC > LG > DC

vapid kernel
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But i expect a Fairy type for Halloween

copper otter
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And considering halloween dark and ghost check out

vapid kernel
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Not another dark ghost mix

copper otter
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Fairy type on halloween... spicy

vapid kernel
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Its a costume anyways

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Doesnt need to be spooky

copper otter
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Would want Halloween Guzma and Drapion personally

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But what do i know.

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One things for sure, Steel is guaranteed. I would be shocked if Steel is just shafted after the amount of steel types we got last month

vapid kernel
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Actually i think

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Fall Marshal and Pangoro

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Fighting

copper otter
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An actual good fighting type? BarryPogChamp

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Sprint? Striker?

long silo
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Support/Tech TabithaHehe

copper otter
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Paing

vernal condor
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Isnt Super Sparring just happening during HSE months

copper otter
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No. DC happened after HSE for dark ghost no? Then it happened after LG.

vernal condor
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We only got 2 super sparring so far

copper otter
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So pattern lead to RDC after this HSE

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Most likely October

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Then LG mid October

vernal condor
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According to your pattern we shouldve gotten like 3 or 4 WEEZing

copper otter
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It's only been 2 months

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We've had 2 RDCs

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Pattern so far was Ghost/Dark HSE > Poison/Fighting/Dragon RDC > LG > Ground/Dragon/Fairy RDC > Dragon/Ground HSE > RDC

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I forgor the third type on the first DC WulfricKEKW

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I mean sure i could be wrong because DeNA moment. But considering the pattern. I'm not too far off

rain copper
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I'm sure both ranked DC happened in the same month as HSE

copper otter
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It did

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LG stretched into August

long silo
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Just to complete the info, the first RDC also has Dragon

copper otter
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Both dragon LarryDead

long silo
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Move-only 3v3 Dragon LarryDead

copper otter
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Yeesh

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No wonder i forgot

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It was a repressed memory

long silo
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I whiffed Nate so yea that was not a good time PrycePain

vapid kernel
pallid girder
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We will certainly get LG next month.

cursive linden
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Latios please

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I want deluxe cookies

copper otter
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Request failed, next LG is regirock/Cresselia/Tornadus

vernal condor
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that's far from being the worst possible

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tho i despise tornadus so fair

pallid girder
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It used to be HSE > LG > HSE > LG, and now ranked dcs just join HSE and share the same month.

cursive linden
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HSE should have been once per 4 months

vernal condor
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Once per 999 years

long silo
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Decent chance we also get new set of regular DC schedule on datamine?

vernal condor
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like battle buffet TabithaHehe

vernal condor
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we're probably gonna go through the same stages

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if anything they add Normal

long silo
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Just want to know if with the exact same order

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But also I want Normal

vernal condor
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send feedback to dena

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asking for a normal dc

long silo
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SP3 Palmer stonks

pallid girder
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Trevor and Arven should be added one day.

copper otter
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The gimmick would be not Normal Damage -No Damage

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Considering their track record

long silo
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Ye should be easy to implement

copper otter
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Would be evil if the normal DC are Fighting Pokemon

vernal condor
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doesn't matter

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either the tank isnt normal type, or it's anabel and she doesnt die

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I'm so ready MinaBreak

long silo
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Who is the spammer there

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But also same

copper otter
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Imagine using Regigigas for normal zone when you can do Hugh Gaming with EXR Anabel

sacred badger
vernal condor
long silo
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Smart

pallid girder
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Hugh can also do head charge spam lol.

cursive linden
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"Head Charge spam"

rare apex
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simply reset and not die from recoil ever TabithaHehe

fluid anvil
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I think

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my own calcs based on pomatool values

vapid kernel
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Cresselia and Regirock can coexist because all the physical strikers are avoiding Cress anyways

vapid kernel
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Thank u

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I stopped using Colress and Classic Red combo for a while

fluid anvil
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x1.3 is because of debuff mitigations (usually Enlightenment 5)
without debuff mitigations -6 def would be an x1.8 dmg boost (physical), but only the easiest weakest content has no debuff mitigation on enemies

vernal condor
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Sorry classic red doesnt exist

normal parcel
vernal condor
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Technically yes

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But sync isnt gonna do much

lethal siren
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Normal dc
Hugh will be cool

normal parcel
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I guess the choice between nessa and SS misty depends on the avaible teammates

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Misty really wants chase, nessa I guess wants something like SC Steven, classic elesa or dojo Gloria

vagrant ivy
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SS misty can 600k in water ST

lethal siren
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Nessa grid
I can't understand wht I choose

vagrant ivy
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since non Ex she got 500k in water MT

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so I’m optimistic

normal parcel
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Problem with nessa is that she wants too much stuffs

spiral halo
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Kekwalk, showa powa, relentless, restrain SophoKEK

normal parcel
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SC Steven can technically satisfy 3/4

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But not rain

misty forge
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Oh discord lagged

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Didn't load last 10 mins of convo

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Ggwp

pallid girder
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For pure f2p comp Elio can ease some issue of her set up but only random LarryDead
50% speed debuff and 50% def debuff.

sullen zephyr
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Is unscathed: sync up mostly useless on skill gears?

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For DC purposes i mean

lethal siren
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For DC ye

true locust
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You would need sleep perma or flinch

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If not is ussles

normal parcel
sullen zephyr
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I'm thinking ss lear can maybe make use of this one, but not much helpful for anyone else

vernal condor
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regardless of gamemode

sullen zephyr
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Noted. I seem to get it most often PrycePain

royal jolt
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How does SS May fare against the stage?

vernal condor
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1.5m

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in a full dps team

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dunno with spam

royal jolt
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SS Morty, and who else would be a good fit? SS Hilda, maybe?

vernal condor
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red nc leaf in the team i have

royal jolt
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Oh, right

chilly prawn
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@long silo did you ever figure it out I’m having same problem, people seem to be 1 mil higher

royal jolt
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Silly question, but how do you check pins on mobile? I wanna access the doc

merry nymph
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+pins

vernal condor
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by not updating discord

royal jolt
vernal condor
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uninstall and install an older version

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literally what i did

royal jolt
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WHY IS IT IN SETTINGS???? 😭

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That makes NO SENSE

royal jolt
merry nymph
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Discord try to be user friendly challenge

royal jolt
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( impossible )

warped gulch
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So close for final Sync

vernal condor
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Does ANYONE here have a clear with Volo? From any DC idc, except fairy

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with video ofc

lethal siren
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Nope idts

warped gulch
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Finally got 8 Syncs but missed crit

vagrant ivy
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so uh what’s the best fire unit for this DC

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is it still silver

warped gulch
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For f2p, yeah Silver still the best sadly

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He can reach 400k-600k depends on your Tm mpr and dodge luck

vagrant ivy
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figured

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no PB on him so it’s ny Wallace for me

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F2P fire tech units are just bad

vapid kernel
vernal condor
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lol

warped gulch
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If only he had supp instead of Tech

sullen zephyr
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oh wow noble roar spam is faster than barry

brave parcel
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Who should I use with silver

rain copper
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Can you get 3/5 BP Barry now?

brave parcel
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Yeah I think I have exactly 3 tickets

rain copper
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Get a Barry dupe and spend 2 candies then

brave parcel
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I have no candies

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I think you get them from battle rally or smth and I havent done it yet

rain copper
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3 and 4* candies are obtainable from events

brave parcel
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Oh

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Idk why tht sent twice but maybe I just missed those events

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Should I just use my bp tickets

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I kinda already bought him once

vagrant ivy
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BP barry needs an ex to really be useful

spiral halo
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I was curious how Lodge Irida would fare but probs just my skill issue SophoKEK

vagrant ivy
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actually better than F2P

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what’s her grid multipliers

vagrant ivy
brave parcel
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Damn

vagrant ivy
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silver has his own sun so no need for max flare

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if you can EX barry I’d use him with your uninvested colress with silver

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you should be getting close to 200k

warped gulch
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Not EX = high chance not PB

spiral halo
civic island
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HilbertHmm
What are the chances of getting the same exact damage in two syncs one after the other? MonkaScottie

swift pulsar
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Hmmm 🤔

vagrant ivy
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it’s not pretty

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he wants elio more to buff attack but since yours isn’t EX either it won’t be that much higher

brave parcel
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Maybe Ill try to finish csmm so I can ex him

vagrant ivy
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could also reference this

brave parcel
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Ty

vagrant ivy
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btw elio needs tm mpr if you have him 3/5

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he’s self sustaining with propelling move 5 passive

vagrant ivy
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if only they reran legendary adventures more often

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silver, sycamore and MC solgaleo have not yet reran this year

misty forge
normal parcel
normal parcel
spiral halo
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I need last hit fire blitz wooper

normal parcel
normal parcel
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Once the animation starts even if the timer is over, the move will be executed regardless

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Even if it takes 20 seconds

normal parcel
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I think L irida, Gordie and elio should score more than SC steven

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Double fire rebuff is equal to super effective up next, and you can have sun for the last 50 seconds I think

spiral halo
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Oh right i forgot the sun

spiral halo
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That's an improvement SophoKEK

languid heart
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I’m trying to think of who might be a better sync nuke between SS Red and Anni N, but I’m unsure of what N’s power is with the “more stat drops = higher power” text his sync has… does anyone know what that kind of flavor text means?

cloud timber
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anni n by a long shot in single, ss red can 2m in triple

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anni n 1.1m with nc blue and ss morty

languid heart
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Well, I have no SS Morty, so I’ll have to figure something else out. Probably Gordie if I can’t think of anything better…

cloud timber
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yeah gordie would be one of the next best options

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nc blue would cut down on posthaste lag too though it's still there

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and hot to the touch burn

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also no other way to compress sun and rebuff without nc leaf off the top of my head

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likely some other limited option

languid heart
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Probably won’t get too much out of it either way… I don’t have the passives to make Anni N do maximum damage, but the same is true with SS Red.

cloud timber
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should be capable of 800k

languid heart
cloud timber
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oh right

languid heart
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It’s not that I can’t upgrade him to that nice 3/5 and EX, it’s just I have quite a few Techs that want a similar treatment…

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So I’m kinda torn.

cloud timber
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yeah 1/5s are almost not worth considering unless they're very top tier

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silver lyra melony should do better possibly

candid nexus
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Top 6

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For now but happy with the results

cloud timber
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lyra would be there for speed buffs and first sync sun

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for silver

glossy token
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so he just wound up getting skipped

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this one i dont think got submitted but does use volo for fairy if you want

icy pendant
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i know

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that was why i recommended him a few times

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but then i got disproven

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this was when i remember him coming

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but yeah that was also when i thought he had a supp sync

vapid kernel
spiral halo
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deceptively f2p but getting lodge irida aint f2p SophoKEK

normal parcel
vernal condor
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glossy token
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only regular move

misty forge
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She gets rude awakening

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No?

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At 1/5

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Iirc

normal parcel
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And I think she has rude awakening 5 in base kit

glossy token
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ah so she does - i was just remembering she has good nightmare like 500 times

normal parcel
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Yes she has good nightmare too

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I mean without sleep she has 0 sync multipliers

glossy token
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yeah, for being a tech having only one sync multiplier in her grid is def showing its age as a pair

normal parcel
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And even with sleep I think she has only 50% besides the innate

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And her attack stat isn't even that good

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Blaine would have been a decent option if it had ex

pallid girder
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And if his innate ask for sun not trap.

cloud timber
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yeah that one after ex could have pushed him over 1m

sturdy pebble
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My Fire roster is shit, time to boost this

cloud timber
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actually i'm pretty sure he'll break 1m after ex as is, i was running with lv 140 and 5/20

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so even without better gear maxing that might be enough

pallid girder
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Pure f2p? or Premium teammates?

glossy token
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i believe invert has a f2p run

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with gordie for fire rebuff and uhhh

glossy token
pallid girder
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No one record pure f2p, like again. Ppl really hates f2p st lol.

glossy token
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arguably mine is f2p because you can get sygna red from the victory road thing

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you probably shouldnt but you can

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but yeah

cloud timber
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this one is also just rough f2p wise

cloud timber
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trap for last sync would have been over 100k more i believe

glossy token
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so question that might be dumb

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int sync works for trap flinch or confusion

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is there anyone who can either throw confusion or flinch right at the last minute to keep the uptime for the final sync?

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i dont think gordie or melony can

cloud timber
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blaine can just fire spin again if trap can't last one more turn on its own

copper otter
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Honestly more surprised no one has done Malva or even Arcablue

glossy token
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linkable

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i tried to posit arcablue yesterday

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and was roundly laughed off the stage

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and i refuse to invest anything in him to try and disprove it lmao

copper otter
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rude.

candid nexus
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Thanks @cloud timber

candid nexus
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Got 3.5 mill top 6

glossy token
copper otter
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hmm...

cloud timber
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he doesn't have flabbergast but trap works for interference sync

copper otter
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if you were to do Arcanine Blue, you're gonna need a special sun buffer that can buff him faster

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but he has plenty of multipliers

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Super Powered 3
Double Down 5
Solar Flare 3
Super Syncer.

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he also has 4 sync nodes

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you can get 2 of them. (3 if you have 60K sync orbs to waste)

candid nexus
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Thanks for your rec. I got top 6 3.5 mill

glossy token
cloud timber
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ppe2 melony ww3 blaine and something useless on gordie

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forgot that i didnt have cs2 on gordie for that either

glossy token
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ok yeah

copper otter
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Gordie/BP Barry, but if you have 1/5 NC Leaf
NC Leaf/BP Barry/Arcablue

glossy token
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also i bet the kabu skill feather would help blaine

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as a f2p alternative to those gears

copper otter
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the problem i'm seeing rn is that Arcablue barely has any Special attack

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240 Spatk is yikes

glossy token
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yeah....

copper otter
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at best, you can boost that to 340 with amazing skill gears but like...

glossy token
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poor arcablue getting the "i dont want to play with you anymore" when any other special striker arrives

copper otter
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I'm expecting about..... 400K? 500K???

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i can do a test run really quick

glossy token
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oh you have him invested?

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godspeed soldier

copper otter
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I have him WulfricKEKW

glossy token
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hes among my absolute lowest level remaining units

misty forge
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i mean

misty forge
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He's a striker with no spa

glossy token
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super effective + sun + 2x rebuff multiplying

misty forge
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Breaking 300k sounds already super hard

glossy token
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i can see 450ish

misty forge
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I call 320k

glossy token
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... thats what linkable is doing

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literally as we speak lol

misty forge
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That unit is just awful for today

glossy token
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agreed

west creek
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i'm so ready for 15th october

glossy token
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you can see the bones of what couldve been good

misty forge
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If sync spam Flannery gets 300k

glossy token
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but it just super isnt

misty forge
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Arcablue ain't getting 400k

glossy token
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flannery has no grid to speak of

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three power chain nodes and pass it on doing nothing

misty forge
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Iirc

glossy token
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also, what was the flannery run?

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was it with blaine or gordie for sun?

misty forge
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Cs5

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Actually

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Not 2

cloud timber
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yeah cs5

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just that and innate

misty forge
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This is 5* 20/20

glossy token
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ok its with morty

misty forge
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With sun

glossy token
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hm. kinda wanna try flannery w/ gordie and see what happens

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not that i have her anywhere near ex but

misty forge
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She does not have ex

glossy token
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super syncer

misty forge
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And even then it barely gets on par with her average

glossy token
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oh right hes only the one time one not the other one

misty forge
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The other one? There's no "guaranteed seun after every sync" passive iirc

glossy token
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victini is the one with super sync sry

misty forge
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Ahhhh

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I see

glossy token
misty forge
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Don't have her

glossy token
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was helping someone with her yesterday yeah

cloud timber
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ny lisia and ss lysandre have it too

glossy token
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naming them super sync and super syncer and being so vastly different is so rude lmao

misty forge
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Oh yeah I remembered sslys

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Didn't know about Lisia

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Wait

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What was the highest NY Lisia score

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Because with that passive it should definitely be quite high

copper otter
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....yeesh

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I missed two crits

glossy token
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oof

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hows he lookin

copper otter
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it was worse.

glossy token
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rip

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wanna try flannery with gordie?

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i think she and gordie are too slow for melony in slot 3 but

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also who did you put in slot 3 for bluecanine?

copper otter
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What 310 spatk does to a mfer.

glossy token
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to quote arcanine

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woof

copper otter
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Could hit 300k with good crit RNG

glossy token
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oh wait thats not ex

copper otter
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But yeesh

vapid kernel
copper otter
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Ex ain't gonna do much

pallid girder
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I mean striker is alr a bad pick for st in general.

glossy token
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is he 20/20 just not ex?

pallid girder
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Maybe hyper beam spam can get him more?

copper otter
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that was 0/20

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but with 90 Spatk

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I can tell you right now, Flannery will be about 400K

glossy token
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you think the added rebuff will only be 50k more than with morty?

copper otter
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it's going to be worse.

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Flannery wants burn

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that's already a timeloss

glossy token
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sure, but cant you save the willowisp time by just waiting for the inevitable hot to the touch proc

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so you lose less time to burn animations bc you get to wait until later in the fight to apply it

copper otter
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that won't mean anything, it's the fact that you have to USE burn in the first place

glossy token
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i guess, but the morty run used burn too

copper otter
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SS Morty?

glossy token
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yeah

glossy token
copper otter
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it would still be about 350K

vapid kernel
jagged radish
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u shouldn't have edited it, should've just shown the full 4m damage flannery did

west creek
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now everyone will believe she's weak

glossy token
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but yeah tbh its wild that flannery is ~100k above bluecanine despite having so much less going for her

vapid kernel
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So i got higher after dumping NC Bianca and putting ss morty instead

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Didnt record this run tho

copper otter
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What sun does

vapid kernel
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I got like 5 syncs plus 3 pyro balls

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But it cudve been 6 syncs

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The first gloria sync was 1:40

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I guess with Morty boosting attack i can also dump some Gloria tiles

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So leme rework this hmm

vapid kernel
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Got the recording yalls
Finally all syncs crit

cursive linden
acoustic chasm
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It even says "W" right there

nova remnant
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GloWia

teal harness
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triple fighting is next one, riley, nc rosa and barry? or hop instead of nc rosa? what's better fighting rebuff on opponents or fighting zone?

vernal condor
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If you're using Rosa you're skipping barry for NC Blue for example

teal harness
glossy token
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speaking of riley, is the better timing to use his max move to max his attack before his first sync, or to wait for biggest possible bonus to the big damage number at the end?

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i also presume smth like this and eating the timeloss from shielding strikes is the preferred grid, then bringing someone who can raise his speed

teal harness
glossy token
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cant hop para?

teal harness
glossy token
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i know, zapdos

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i thought he had the same thing like cynthia has

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i would be going for numbing blow strats on cyn if i had a better spammer to complement them together

cloud timber
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just ssa cynthia

teal harness
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dont have her either

cloud timber
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not very helpful for dc anyway, mainly a defensive tank

glossy token
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yeah, i want her to be good but

cloud timber
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though i should try to push out a run with her

glossy token
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this just isnt her style of fight

cloud timber
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since i'm planning on doing that with ss kris anyway and i did with nc blue and melony as damage dealers

glossy token
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see: me last fighting dc getting 172k with her through sheer goddamn force

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her bmove is so long 😭

cloud timber
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yeah avoid that always unless it's essential to setup

glossy token
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this would need 2 grid upgrades but would mean someone who can give +4 would work (e.g. larry)

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or we could just run ex skyla again

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ultimate scuffed strats

vapid kernel
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I think bianca nukes harder than rei

cloud timber
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big problem with her in dc is she doesn't have a good way of setting up zone

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on intro and on sync and neither are extended

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intro wtz is not lasting through setup so it's more of a hinderance than a help

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and on sync it's only good for one sync on damage dealer at best

teal harness
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hop is better for fighting zone setup

cloud timber
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if you run her as damage dealer tho you could run nc blue and aaron and have the fastest spam in the game with the most efficient setup

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won't break 1m or anything but you could do it

glossy token
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... wait true

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i could run aaron riley cynthia

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immediate spam unlock

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i was about to ask if sonia was maybe the move for para + speed for riley

cloud timber
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she doesn't boost damage like at all though

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beyond the one sync her sync fighting zone lasts

glossy token
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you dont think with spam it would be feasible to alternate riley and cynthia syncs?

cloud timber
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ew

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crippling yourself even further probably

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and her zone on sync is its own animation each time too

glossy token
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fair enough ig

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so sonia for para and +speed, exr riley, and ex elio then

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could also maybe do lt. surge/raichu

cloud timber
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sonia/melony ideally but elio is next best

glossy token
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since at least then posthaste has a chance not to proc

cloud timber
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elio hardly benefits from the speed and just doesn't benefit from her reactive passive so that just drains time

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so yeah surge would be a real option

glossy token
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yeah, the speed is purely for riley's multiplier

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bc we dont want to waste time on cc (or grid slots on unbending/stalwart)

cloud timber
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ofc

acoustic halo
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between 3/5 anni n, 2/5 ssmay and 5/5 mix blue who is best for the current fight?

glossy token
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its also 'when pokemon uses a move' not on success

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so you can get there with empty twaves

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thanks to riley's tm giving mga you can probably set it up p efficiently

cloud timber
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3/5 anni n breaks 1m

acoustic halo
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neat

cloud timber
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dunno what mix blue accomplishes

glossy token
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set sun

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field

cloud timber
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well in terms of score for current dc

acoustic chasm
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The zone might last 2 syncs actually, both Cynthia and Riley have sprint

glossy token
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ok so with surge leveled ofc but i can get riley bonus atk with gear, no theme skills but should be ok probably?

vapid kernel
cloud timber
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ssa cynthia's zone kills 5 seconds every time she sets it it seems like

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not sure she's getting more than 6 syncs even in single

vapid kernel
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Nc blue does nothing worthwhile for fighting

cloud timber
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she doesn't on current rotation but it's +speed

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on the team i'm using she needs it for her offensive buffs

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but otherwise yeah

glossy token
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tho also one other consideration: redlax would be a second max knuckle

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would mean no gmax replenish but

vapid kernel
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Mm

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Actually ye redlax cud be better

cloud timber
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for bianca damage dealer i was thinking redlax/nc rosa yea

glossy token
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for those 5s you also get repeated sync accel and guaranteed lasting until next sync

vapid kernel
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Just need to roll for para with my 1/5 red

glossy token
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mine is 2/5 and even with he1 gridded he was refusing to para for me on fire before invert stepped in to change up my team

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its the desire sensors

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they know

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if only happy scout had given me elio 3/5

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instead of. goddamn. ryuki.

cloud timber
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nvm ssa cynthia dd can reach 7 syncs, had a reactive passive gridded

glossy token
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nice

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was it the fighting zone heal one

cloud timber
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triage tank yes

glossy token
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presumably to get to hs1

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yeah

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brawl accel would also help with spam w/o mga i assume

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does your grid look something like this?

cloud timber
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yeah i was concerned it could consume time but it occurs during fighting zone animation and doesn't seem to cause any further delay

glossy token
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yeah, its like speeding sun

cloud timber
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mostly but you can do more to max out her b move which you can use at the end

glossy token
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gotcha - wasnt sure if we were just clicking tm and then sync and not ever touching her attacks lmao

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would be nice to get a +4pmun cc but alas

sturdy pebble
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Ooo, next challenge is Triple Fighting? I get my revenge TabithaHehe

cloud timber
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you're almost always able to fit in at least one last attack at the end after sync

glossy token
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yeah but to get the +4 you would need to use her bmove twice

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and then attack after

cloud timber
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yeah you are never touching that during setup

glossy token
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so riley going for a no pmun cc > cynthia's bmove i would think

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as your final attack

cloud timber
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ofc

glossy token
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ok cool just making sure im on the right page o7

cloud timber
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aye

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also doesnt risk proccing fist bump

cloud timber
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i'll be running nc hop again for fighting triple but even as single target i think he's third best option? after rei/bianca

glossy token
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bianca im sure is going to put up some insane numbers

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... also, would an empty heal order work the same as an empty potion

cloud timber
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it does

glossy token
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my aaron is still 1/5 but

fluid anvil
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empty heal order as first move to set up +1pmun for riley at least

cloud timber
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the buff can be a little nice but the delay is definitely significant

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was costing me a sync back when i was running ss red

glossy token
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gotcha

cloud timber
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usually it'll be fine though

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so zone is up long enough to manage 2 syncs

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that's pretty significant then

glossy token
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so one more q then wrt zone

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would zone + rileys post-first-sync seun make it worth using max knuckle sooner rather than saving it for the end

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470atk into 580bp w/ seun and zone vs 470atk into 290bp w/ +speed +brawn sync 5 seun and zone

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im truly not good enough at math to know

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i ask in part bc of his max move accelerating sync by 3

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so you can probably fit the sync after too just not with the seun

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then again seun on 3 targets vs single target of max move

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hmmm

cloud timber
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instinctively i'd use max move before the last sync i could fit in taking into account max countdown

glossy token
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yeah thats my instinct too

cloud timber
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and yeah with triple target sync you need seun there

glossy token
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alr cool

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idk if we know the exact value of each sync buff stacked wrt how many sync buffs would you need to match the value of zone per se

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so before i assumed just save the biggest move for last

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wanted to cross reference

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hm, absol's pastebin doesnt seem to have the stage details for tierno

cloud timber
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it does but the triple is listed as single

glossy token
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ahh

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thatll do it

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83 def is what i was looking for

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i think the biggest downside of the aaron ssa cyn riley comp is that he just cant max his speed fast enough

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bc if he could....

long silo
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Question about the pomatools dm calculator

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What does it assume gear wise

cloud timber
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0 until you input gear bonus under the gear row

long silo
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When I tried it the last time there doesn't seem to be any way for me to input. Ah well, I'll try again when I have the chance. Thank you

fossil igloo
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Slowly improving my score.

sacred badger
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Fighting Multi soon kuku

rain copper
long silo
fossil igloo
sacred badger
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Nc bianca... But 2R for me

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Ill play with colress and NC Hop

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I might just do exr for nc hop for sheningans

cloud timber
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all he gets is interference sync 9 without a way to apply aoe interference and up to 2 uses of seun off his tm

long silo
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Rosa + Barry gaming

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Or Colress actually

pallid girder
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Is there anyone that can para + aoe confusion?

rain copper
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3/5 NC Blue, and H Viola at any move level

pallid girder
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Oh yes! Sometimes forget NC Blue can do that.

pallid girder
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NC Blue + Melony + SC Guzma.
Guzma has 2.5x sync (need aoe confusion tho) and can roll +10 PMUN himself from 3 miss.

civic island
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My possible best run gone like thisLarryDead dena fix pls

cloud timber
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gauge will not be happy though ok it'd be fine with sync freebie if you were working off that

spiral halo
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Who has stronger AoE Sync? Bea or Bianca? naruhodo
I have no Rei and NCHop so I'm cooked too

civic island
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Bianca, also remember her custom LS

true locust
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Wat bianca custom ls?

civic island
true locust
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Bianca and rei two best

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Rei is super up next eva up

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Bianca eva up flinch cirle

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Bianc whit nc rosa pair for unova and rebuff. And nc blue.

pallid girder
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Not Redlax for SEUN?

normal parcel
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Maybe aura Cynthia can work, but unextended fighting zone is quite mhe

true locust
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Lax is good for 3 vs 1

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Not 3 vs 3