#Damage Challenge
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I guess if it costs you a whole sync isn't worth
ill try it but
i think it manages to not waste time under no status param like in ranked
but only then
Didn't no status in ranked just slowed down any status attempt?
the interaction with hot to the touch was different and so would static cling be in theory
but it did slow down status moves
god damnit i misclicked blast burn instead of sync
Anni N's nuke is pretty strong, but he's rather hard to set up well
Follow the video. Reset if Leaf's Flare Blitz doesn't activate the burn. All syncs for N must crit
Ideally you should reset for a speed or evasion buff from Rosa's Relic Song, but it's not required. Use Rosa's tm once to buff speed and have N's final move hit harder
Lucky Ski...
Why even bring Anni N when leaf is literally there
Because I want to
I mean it kinda defeats the purpose
The purpose was for Anni N to be the focus here. This was why I was attacking with him
Sure Leaf can go twice as high but that's not the point
I wanted to try a team for N before doing a better score with Leaf
Another factor. What if the user using NCleaf was 1/5.
Pretty sure she still outperforms him
No she doesn't
She doesn't have the nuke power.
She needs the nuke
She's relying on power play at 3/5
i think its also valid for people with thinner rosters to have examples
not everyone has everything, diversity in clears is helpful
goddamn go figure. even missing 2 sync crits gordie got sygna red to 520k
i'll record it and farm for crits ig
ok im gonna reroll for one that actually clears 500 but if anyone has notes
heres the video of 1/5 gordie 4/5 exr sygna red 3/5 ex bp barry
gordie gaming?
oh wat ss red
how do you get him to atk up? let him sync first, then pop his tms?
yeah
farm for propulsion procs off dire hit if you can, then you can get to the barry spamming easier
and time gordie's max flare for 49s
whats your current damage?
@misty forge holy shit
.... i forgot i was recording
oops
sorry mael theres either gonna be a discord cameo or an edited out portion
rng requirement for 6 total syncs with all of blaine's at max multipliers seems a bit too steep to bother with more
also i lacked cs2 on gordie for that run
but melony/gordie pans out well in general
just have to reset for coin flip burn on first brutal swing if you don't have any setup left to do
why do all the old units have inertia and no way to boost their own speed
dunno which you're talking about
silver has fast track on grid so he can do it, just not viable for dc
just a very different way the units are designed that i have to reorient my brain to from seeing inertia on the grid and then going. wait
im too stingy to invest this hard in my bluecanine bc i have sygna red but my guess is this is how youd get comparable f2p numbers without powerboost silver
because in the old days the supports were meant to yknow support
self sufficient units were considered crazy and broken, like ss red
you could hardly pick a worse possible investment lol
i mean as someone who was there in the old days... im lookin at you glacia
i mean yeah, but also red is not really f2p - im trying to think of if theres a f2p nuke option for this team that isnt red
Remember when sync orbs were co op sync orbs
man its kinda wild that for a while this game had a co op focus
remember when gio/m2 dropped
and that stuff like Pass It On or Power Chain are gastly reminders
remember how he wasnt a permanently accessible unit
every time i go to check flannery's grid i get jumpscared
oh no honey what is you doin
i do miss battle villa
i wish you could choose battle villa or battle rally
but
i think the most recent letter mentioned something about more modes that have players interact
dare i hope for a return to co op?
also speaking of another support who does nothing
cheren
a unit i have used all of maybe twice ever
i mean he has a grid now, maybe he can be used in content that has nasty conditions or something
that said, nobody wants full heal over like, a potion
anyways it seems we got sidetracked
my best wiith Anni N on this DC is 380k
3/5 ex?
yes
i have been informed you dont want to paraspam for anni n
teammates being
you want to noble roar spam
bc its 2 stats so it works like status or aaron's defend order
so for teammates you prob want to bring others to help get stats as low as possible as fast as possible
best score was with ss morty 2/5 (5*) and Redlax (2/5) EXR
someone tried talonflame?
don't think anyone here has invested malva no
you probably want to swap out redlax for someone else to help drop stats
Available 6* supports
maybe dc hugh?
nc blue or ss hilbert would be ideal
I guess I'll wait a few months for everyone to see the false hope of the banner.
how many tickets do you have rn
sc?
special costume, shiny stoutland
Ex for blaaaiiinnn
nope
i returned from a 2 year hiatus about a month ago
so im severly lacking units from the 2023-2024 eras
as a nuker... I think I could make 700k, it's better than any other f2p right now.
if you have enough units to pick up a unit, genuinely dc hugh might be the move to enable anni n here
growl will give you a second noble roar per round, he has hs1 as a passive, his tm is a sync counter accel
are we using this grid with anni n yet
I need 2/5 Chase so bad for the guaranteed para. It's not fair T~T
yes, but I meant guaranteed para on TShock
hold on a tick
if thats the case would lucian work
im aware
noble roar is -atk -spatk
hugh is a downgrade from redlax really
and what you want is to render noble roar inert
correct
really? being able to rush after first sync?
sp.d drops means more damage though
or is combining growl with roar not the goal?
is his growl even faster than noble roar
what you want is to get mawile to -6/-6 as quickly as possible so you can then use noble roar the same way you would para/sing spam
so....another noble roar user, then
like how you get aaron to +6/+6 as fast as possible to use defend order that same way
and even if it is how is it outdoing support/sprint with seun
there's ghetsis i guess
yes, but kyurem would hurt you way more than it would help
wh-why
welp
i mean
if you want more debuffs you're looking more for things that don't conflict
but idk if that's worth
gordie can be viable
2
posted here
and is he exr
no
i'd almost want to put gordie in place of ss morty but redlax does not carry gauge and gordie's posthaste isn't cutting it
for noble roar spam
i genuinely dont know that hes the best thing in your team yeah
you want his exr for sun on sync
redlax into sygna morty into anni n gives you enough time to get to -6/-6 from just noble roar but
im pretty sure you always want 2 support eX if possible
it's not overly important to where sc steven isn't a frequent mention around here despite having no support ex
colress too
its nice if you can, but if its actively impairs your damage....
the first support ex is far more valuable than the second
this is why i was saying hugh might be the move
yeah but he contributes almost nothing
it gets you to the sync rush phase faster so that you can focus the time resource on getting truth will prevail up for +6
redlax can throw a body slam or two
but bedes tm is +speed
so you dont want to be going for -speed bc youd need an extra -2 to max
yeah but nullifying that speed is important too as it turns out
you could give hugh a shot if you had him already but he's not worth grabbing just for this
redlax is still vastly more reliable and proven
im not thinking you replace redlax
im thinking you replace morty
bc at 2/5 he is basically there to set sun and nothing else
rip gauge
and otherwise an active hindrance in a lot of ways
nope
he isnt exr
that's fine
yeah the gauge is a bit of a problem with NR spam
2/5 he has sunny day mpr, his tm doesnt benefit n at all and actively wants to wait for sun to be up before he touches it, he burns time with team sunbathe, and he has no stat reduction
Whats the 4 mil team?
i have used him, yes
other sun users aren't debuffing beyond gordie who is much worse on gauge
and it's ok to not max his innate
also he gets to use 2 full health potions at start
sunny disposition also helps with play rough debuffs
worst case you can swap over to silver or even blaine bc at least those definitely get above 500k and with accessible teammates esp if we have exr redlax already
but you'd need max attack skill gear
What is the best option for this? I have stuff like red lax and champion blue too. Please ping me
I think NC Leaf is your best bet, but DC experts might have better ideas
yeah prob that
What else should I run with her?
And will 1/5 be enough?
Do I need to candy leaf?
So basically sync with blue then melody then leaf?
yeah, i'd leer 4 times
oh no solar sync would be another big blow to her output though so that one might make her struggle
and no drought alert
Honestly being master fair and top tier she seems long term worth of candy right?
def
I'll just candy her
works
And reset if blue doesn't paralyze right?
yeah you need first turn para but it's 90%
so it's actually 3 leers and b move shortly before her first sync appears to be the play
uhhh remove blue's top left tile
The one that drops defense?
leaf does that all herself with 3 leers + b move so no need to waste the time with the passive
yeah it's overkill if you're using 3 leers and b move
Ah that makes sense
i don't have nc leaf so i'm learning on the fly
So blue does discharge and tm moves, leaf does Lear and b move no tm, and melody just sings.
Right?
yeah
And don't do the b move until right before sync right?
yeah
it can probably be anywhere between the second support sync and leaf's first when solar sync comes into play and overwrites that sun
but that works
might be worth removing solar sync though
dunno
that's just what the best recording used
Without Leaf and N, me also rely on Red and charizard now.
If can share grid and video would be beneficial for me 🤩
i submitted it to the doc!
if it hasnt yet been added you can look in the pending submissions tab
Meh.
Thank you! I managed to get 1.2 million on the first run
yoooo nice
i know no one pulled for her in this economy but whats the best score malva's gotten if anyone knows
im curious

Why would anyone pull for a pair that's going to be added to Gen pool in a few weeks?
We have this thing called Favoritism
But those same people may not care about DC anyway
Or like me with incomplete investment
Yeah many casual players don't even know about sing spam still and do 100~200k only and think it's fine.
But if Malva is on the same power level as Archer then she can possibly 1m
3/5 anni N can do 1M, but need SS Morty + either SS Hilbert, NC Blue or NC Bianca
I have Morty, Hilbert, and Blue out of that list, soooooo
Didn't 1/5 Alt Gloria almost reached 900k
I remember someone posted here, but I forgot the actual team
But if 3/5 Anni N can do it anyway then that works
Who's my countdown machine if I do a comp with SS Hilbert and N together
Also knowing me I'll probably need someone else's Anni N grid lol
Any have one they could drop?
N can spam himself by Noble roar. 2 bar spam tho so rmb use Morty's tm wisely to always have mga on field.
morty is good at providing gauge but ss hilbert's charging infliction can actually help since you're running out regardless
Thank you invert, may your daily summon 1 hour and 50 minutes from now bestow upon you a limited unit
No matter what I do, I'm always gonna miss one of the last sync crits
no 4M for me
How many Leaf syncs was this
I did 2 Support Sync and 5 Leaf Sync, and my score is 2.4m (2.6m if I did not miss one crit)
Is this a severe skill issue on my part or what 
Oh right I forgot to mention it's only a 1/5 Hilbert so I can't do this actually aaa
3/5 Morty with EXR tho
Would sunny day mpr be worth it or nah
Oh right field ex gives you long sun
with that composition though you'll use sun once
i haven't tried that one specifically but what i did use was nc blue over ss hilbert
click sunny day any time after the 50 second mark and it'll last
5 syncs
You'll end with 10 sync buffs
How come we have 1m+ difference 
I'll give SSHilb/SSMorty a try first and do NCBlue/SSMorty if that doesn't work out
SP3, crits, and always syncing under sun+cricle
Oh right morty's sync will like. Actually deal damage.
And good gears
Are you at 30%+ sync gear or what lol
I have CS2 but I don't think SP3 is that huge of a difference (and the 10 level)
So ye besides level, LS, and gear, we do basically the same
His sync will do 2000 or so at most. Don't really expect it too much.
On the other hand I used a 3/5 SS Hilbert and his last blow hit 100k.
sunny disposition helps prevent attack lower animations if play rough procs but if you aren't running anything else you could throw headstrong ls on
could use that to grab the other sync node though it's a bit close to negligible
by "anything else" i mean hs1/adr1 specifically, headstrong is next best after i would think
Wouldn't team gimme five slow things down?
Or is it under the sync timer freeze or smthn
Also now that I'm giving it a try I'm kinda confused as to what my best order of operations is here
the speed buff matters even if it's +1
Ahhh, gotcha
also you aren't looking for or have the gauge to fit in more than 5 total syncs most likely
bc that's how it is for nc blue and he reaches +6 speed instantly
Rn I'm doing
Morty TM Metal Sound Noble Roar
Metal Sound Noble Roar
Metal Sound Noble Roar
Noble Roar Techno Blast
Morty Sync Metal Sound N TM
Metal Sound N Dire Hit+
Metal Sound N Dire Hit+
Metal Sound N TM
N Sync Metal Sound
Metal Sound Noble Roar
Metal Sound Noble Roar
And then just spamming Metal Sound and using Morty TM/Sunny Day as nessecary
Does that sound right or am I missing something important here
use potions on full health targets at the start
I seem to miss some fundamental part of damage challenge every time I-
Yeah that'd do it
easiest to forget part tbf
yea
Okay so uhhhh
Oh Metal Sound isn't spammable?
no point in using metal sound more unless you were using charging infliction
yeah moves that buff/debuff only one stat are slower
Goootcha
Like invert said, the first two turns should be burn Morty's potion, and I didn't actually use Morty TM until he sync bc Noble Roar before dropping all stats is acutally not gauge hungry.
Also if you use Morty's tm under sun you save yourself from using N's dire hit 2 times.
yeah david has run the specific team comp so follow that
The noble roar/metal sound/techno blast shenanigans before first sync don't need MGA? Huh.
Da more ya know.
So in thaaaat case
You need to slightly switch between Noble roar and tm.
N has 3 tms need to be used before his 1st sync, so swithching between tm and noble roar is enough for you to live without mga.
Oh wait I forgot N's tm has mga lol.
Sooooo
Metal Sound Potion N TM
Metal Sound Noble Roar Potion
Metal Sound N Dire Hit+
Techno Blast
Morty Sync Noble Roar
Noble Roar Morty TM
Noble Roar
Noble Roar
Noble Roar
Noble Roar
N TM
N Sync
Noble Roar/Morty TM/Sunny Day as applicable
Something like this?
I'll give it a try and see how it goes
could delay techno blast to after first sync
Oh good point actually
The techno itself probably deals more damage than morty's sync lol
yes
Do I still need Morty TM MPR also or nah
The grid you sent earlier didn't have it so
Making sure to run headstrong this time also
Fair enough
I'll rock with this for the moment and switch over to a grid without TM MPR if I didn't need it
yea that's good
Bideo games
Not sure if I can turn this into 1mil tbh but
I'm preeeetty happy with this nonetheless
I think that was 3 syncs from N?
It's better then fast track 9 because it triggers even on sync (as long as you crit), and dps doesn't cap at 80% crit
Alt Gloria can do 1M in 3 different dc so she's definitely worth the investment.
Yall need to know tht i cudve chosen between nc serena or alt gloria for giving 2 candies
And i gave it to Gloria cus shes also op in LG

And giving me 1M in 3 Dc yes
Can someone tell me what the damage multiplier is if defenses are at -6 ?
Compared to at -0
6 stats is normally 1.8x so with mitigation 5 maybe it's 1.4x
running off a line in this really https://www.serebii.net/pokemonmasters/mechanics.shtml?callback=in&code=YZEXNJIWMJGTNGNKNS0ZZJA4LTG3NTUTMMJJNJK0ZJGWNZQW&state=c0d28254f6bc4ff3a130d904428c5cbe
also i think ss lysandre should be pretty safely above 1m in water single now with ss kris sprint
gets an extra sync and more smun
Dont wanna push so we take those
So chat, what do you think will be the hell that will be Ranked DC next month?
nessa has a shot of outperforming but she needs to land 8 rock tombs to max cakewalk lol
I'm expecting Ghost/Steel/Dark tbh
Next ranked fire dark rock
Oooh interesting choice with rock
I don't think there will be ranked DC next month?
They place ranked DC between HSEs and LGs
After lg end it happend
So the schedule is DC > HSE > DC > LG > DC
Ye cud be based on the units on sale
But i expect a Fairy type for Halloween
And considering halloween dark and ghost check out
Not another dark ghost mix
Fairy type on halloween... spicy
Would want Halloween Guzma and Drapion personally
But what do i know.
One things for sure, Steel is guaranteed. I would be shocked if Steel is just shafted after the amount of steel types we got last month
Support/Tech 
Paing
Not really
Isnt Super Sparring just happening during HSE months
No. DC happened after HSE for dark ghost no? Then it happened after LG.
We only got 2 super sparring so far
According to your pattern we shouldve gotten like 3 or 4 

It's only been 2 months
We've had 2 RDCs
Pattern so far was Ghost/Dark HSE > Poison/Fighting/Dragon RDC > LG > Ground/Dragon/Fairy RDC > Dragon/Ground HSE > RDC
I forgor the third type on the first DC 
I mean sure i could be wrong because DeNA moment. But considering the pattern. I'm not too far off
I'm sure both ranked DC happened in the same month as HSE
Just to complete the info, the first RDC also has Dragon
Both dragon 
Move-only 3v3 Dragon 
I whiffed Nate so yea that was not a good time 
Fall Roxanne-like tech
We will certainly get LG next month.
Request failed, next LG is regirock/Cresselia/Tornadus
It used to be HSE > LG > HSE > LG, and now ranked dcs just join HSE and share the same month.
HSE should have been once per 4 months
Once per 999 years
Decent chance we also get new set of regular DC schedule on datamine?
like battle buffet 
Not expecting anything new tbh
we're probably gonna go through the same stages
if anything they add Normal
SP3 Palmer stonks
Trevor and Arven should be added one day.
Ye should be easy to implement
Would be evil if the normal DC are Fighting Pokemon
doesn't matter
either the tank isnt normal type, or it's anabel and she doesnt die
I'm so ready 
Imagine using Regigigas for normal zone when you can do Hugh Gaming with EXR Anabel
normal lulz.
The spammer is Palmer spamming crush grip at max power
Smart
Hugh can also do head charge spam lol.
"Head Charge spam"
simply reset and not die from recoil ever 
Enlightenment 5 Dmg boost
-2 Def/SpDef 1.169
-4 Def/SpDef 1.234
-6 Def/SpDef 1.290
I think
my own calcs based on pomatool values
Sounds good
Cresselia and Regirock can coexist because all the physical strikers are avoiding Cress anyways
1.3 sucks omg
Thank u
I stopped using Colress and Classic Red combo for a while
x1.3 is because of debuff mitigations (usually Enlightenment 5)
without debuff mitigations -6 def would be an x1.8 dmg boost (physical), but only the easiest weakest content has no debuff mitigation on enemies
Sorry classic red doesnt exist
Are 3 minutes enough to land 8 rock tombs?
I guess the choice between nessa and SS misty depends on the avaible teammates
Misty really wants chase, nessa I guess wants something like SC Steven, classic elesa or dojo Gloria
SS misty can 600k in water ST
Nessa grid
I can't understand wht I choose
Problem with nessa is that she wants too much stuffs
Kekwalk, showa powa, relentless, restrain 
Can ditch rain with SC Steven since he can fill kekwalk and relentless
Oh discord lagged
Didn't load last 10 mins of convo
Ggwp
For pure f2p comp Elio can ease some issue of her set up but only random 
50% speed debuff and 50% def debuff.
Not for steel if you have arc Steven I guess, maybe can work with chase too
I'm thinking ss lear can maybe make use of this one, but not much helpful for anyone else
unscathed is one of the worst conditions
regardless of gamemode
Noted. I seem to get it most often 
How does SS May fare against the stage?
SS Morty, and who else would be a good fit? SS Hilda, maybe?
Oh, right
@long silo did you ever figure it out I’m having same problem, people seem to be 1 mil higher
Silly question, but how do you check pins on mobile? I wanna access the doc
+pins
It's updated 😭
Thank you!
Discord try to be user friendly challenge
( impossible )
Does ANYONE here have a clear with Volo? From any DC idc, except fairy
with video ofc
Nope idts
For f2p, yeah Silver still the best sadly
He can reach 400k-600k depends on your Tm mpr and dodge luck
lol
oh wow noble roar spam is faster than barry
Can you get 3/5 BP Barry now?
Yeah I think I have exactly 3 tickets
Get a Barry dupe and spend 2 candies then
I have no candies
I think you get them from battle rally or smth and I havent done it yet
3 and 4* candies are obtainable from events
Oh
Idk why tht sent twice but maybe I just missed those events
Should I just use my bp tickets
I kinda already bought him once
BP barry needs an ex to really be useful
I was curious how Lodge Irida would fare but probs just my skill issue 
if you can’t ex barry he not worth much
Damn
silver has his own sun so no need for max flare
if you can EX barry I’d use him with your uninvested colress with silver
you should be getting close to 200k
Idt their Silver has SEUN tho
Not EX = high chance not PB
i didnt pick double down 3 but she's based on burn so burn ticks slow down the timer. On top of that her TM has regen 

What are the chances of getting the same exact damage in two syncs one after the other? 
Hmmm 🤔
it’s not pretty
he wants elio more to buff attack but since yours isn’t EX either it won’t be that much higher
Maybe Ill try to finish csmm so I can ex him
could also reference this
Ty
btw elio needs tm mpr if you have him 3/5
he’s self sustaining with propelling move 5 passive
it doesn’t and mine doesn’t either yeah
if only they reran legendary adventures more often
silver, sycamore and MC solgaleo have not yet reran this year
Double down, scorching sync
Considering his sync is pretty bad too, why they love to give tech to bad nukers
Self Regen isn't a problem as long as it doesn't gives Regen to your spammer
I need last hit fire blitz 
Won't Gordie be better than SC steven?
For last hit Regen doesn't do anything
Once the animation starts even if the timer is over, the move will be executed regardless
Even if it takes 20 seconds
L Irida
I think L irida, Gordie and elio should score more than SC steven
Double fire rebuff is equal to super effective up next, and you can have sun for the last 50 seconds I think
so double rebuff has better multiplier than single rebuff and -6 def? 
Oh right i forgot the sun
I’m trying to think of who might be a better sync nuke between SS Red and Anni N, but I’m unsure of what N’s power is with the “more stat drops = higher power” text his sync has… does anyone know what that kind of flavor text means?
anni n by a long shot in single, ss red can 2m in triple
anni n 1.1m with nc blue and ss morty
Well, I have no SS Morty, so I’ll have to figure something else out. Probably Gordie if I can’t think of anything better…
yeah gordie would be one of the next best options
nc blue would cut down on posthaste lag too though it's still there
and hot to the touch burn
also no other way to compress sun and rebuff without nc leaf off the top of my head
likely some other limited option
Probably won’t get too much out of it either way… I don’t have the passives to make Anni N do maximum damage, but the same is true with SS Red.
should be capable of 800k
I doubt it at 1/5 no EX
oh right
It’s not that I can’t upgrade him to that nice 3/5 and EX, it’s just I have quite a few Techs that want a similar treatment…
So I’m kinda torn.
yeah 1/5s are almost not worth considering unless they're very top tier
silver lyra melony should do better possibly
i believe every time volo was suggested for fairy dc usage there was a better alternative in the person's roster
so he just wound up getting skipped
this one i dont think got submitted but does use volo for fairy if you want
mael’s asking because of the sync damage boost while his circle is up
i know
that was why i recommended him a few times
but then i got disproven
this was when i remember him coming
but yeah that was also when i thought he had a supp sync
Gordie doing good
best he can do
deceptively f2p but getting lodge irida aint f2p 
Not sure, but b leer is pretty slow,
Cant believe irida got more than serena
However 1/5 irida nets you 5/5 lodge irida, but definitely not f2p
Sleep multipliers are pretty bad, and she doesn't have the bestest offensive stats
doesnt she not even have sync sleep multipliers
only regular move
Isn't her innate sleep?
And I think she has rude awakening 5 in base kit
ah so she does - i was just remembering she has good nightmare like 500 times
yeah, for being a tech having only one sync multiplier in her grid is def showing its age as a pair
And even with sleep I think she has only 50% besides the innate
And her attack stat isn't even that good
Blaine would have been a decent option if it had ex
And if his innate ask for sun not trap.
yeah that one after ex could have pushed him over 1m
My Fire roster is shit, time to boost this
actually i'm pretty sure he'll break 1m after ex as is, i was running with lv 140 and 5/20
so even without better gear maxing that might be enough
Pure f2p? or Premium teammates?
here
No one record pure f2p, like again. Ppl really hates f2p st lol.
arguably mine is f2p because you can get sygna red from the victory road thing
you probably shouldnt but you can
but yeah
https://youtu.be/n6sHT7Pz1Ag?si=f5XCqWxJhAcg7aDs was in the middle of uploading
this one is also just rough f2p wise
trap for last sync would have been over 100k more i believe
so question that might be dumb
int sync works for trap flinch or confusion
is there anyone who can either throw confusion or flinch right at the last minute to keep the uptime for the final sync?
i dont think gordie or melony can
blaine can just fire spin again if trap can't last one more turn on its own
Honestly more surprised no one has done Malva or even Arcablue
linkable
i tried to posit arcablue yesterday
and was roundly laughed off the stage
and i refuse to invest anything in him to try and disprove it lmao
rude.
Thanks @cloud timber
this was my guess
Got 3.5 mill top 6
til blaine has flabbergast on fire spin too lmao
hmm...
he doesn't have flabbergast but trap works for interference sync
if you were to do Arcanine Blue, you're gonna need a special sun buffer that can buff him faster
but he has plenty of multipliers
Super Powered 3
Double Down 5
Solar Flare 3
Super Syncer.
he also has 4 sync nodes
you can get 2 of them. (3 if you have 60K sync orbs to waste)
Thanks for your rec. I got top 6 3.5 mill
my thinking was pairing him with gordie for rebuff and sun
ppe2 melony ww3 blaine and something useless on gordie
forgot that i didnt have cs2 on gordie for that either
dont you want smth like cs2 for bigger max flare dmg?
ok yeah
Gordie/BP Barry, but if you have 1/5 NC Leaf
NC Leaf/BP Barry/Arcablue
also i bet the kabu skill feather would help blaine
as a f2p alternative to those gears
the problem i'm seeing rn is that Arcablue barely has any Special attack
240 Spatk is yikes
yeah....
at best, you can boost that to 340 with amazing skill gears but like...
poor arcablue getting the "i dont want to play with you anymore" when any other special striker arrives
I have him 
hes among my absolute lowest level remaining units
350k at best lol
i mean
He's a striker with no spa
super effective + sun + 2x rebuff multiplying
Breaking 300k sounds already super hard
i can see 450ish
Go ahead then
I call 320k
That unit is just awful for today
agreed
i'm so ready for 15th october
you can see the bones of what couldve been good
If sync spam Flannery gets 300k
but it just super isnt
Arcablue ain't getting 400k
flannery has no grid to speak of
three power chain nodes and pass it on doing nothing
She still has cs2 and a native sync multiplier
Iirc
This is 5* 20/20
ok its with morty
With sun
hm. kinda wanna try flannery w/ gordie and see what happens
not that i have her anywhere near ex but
She does not have ex
It's one time only
And even then it barely gets on par with her average
oh right hes only the one time one not the other one
The other one? There's no "guaranteed seun after every sync" passive iirc
victini is the one with super sync sry
Don't have her
was helping someone with her yesterday yeah
ny lisia and ss lysandre have it too
naming them super sync and super syncer and being so vastly different is so rude lmao

Oh yeah I remembered sslys
Didn't know about Lisia
Wait
What was the highest NY Lisia score
Because with that passive it should definitely be quite high
it was worse.
rip
wanna try flannery with gordie?
i think she and gordie are too slow for melony in slot 3 but
also who did you put in slot 3 for bluecanine?
What 310 spatk does to a mfer.
Could hit 300k with good crit RNG
oh wait thats not ex
But yeesh
Serena sak
Ex ain't gonna do much
I mean striker is alr a bad pick for st in general.
is he 20/20 just not ex?
Maybe hyper beam spam can get him more?
that was 0/20
but with 90 Spatk
I can tell you right now, Flannery will be about 400K
you think the added rebuff will only be 50k more than with morty?
sure, but cant you save the willowisp time by just waiting for the inevitable hot to the touch proc
so you lose less time to burn animations bc you get to wait until later in the fight to apply it
that won't mean anything, it's the fact that you have to USE burn in the first place
i guess, but the morty run used burn too
SS Morty?
yeah
see the reply from here for the run
it would still be about 350K
u shouldn't have edited it, should've just shown the full 4m damage flannery did
but yeah tbh its wild that flannery is ~100k above bluecanine despite having so much less going for her
So i got higher after dumping NC Bianca and putting ss morty instead
Didnt record this run tho
What sun does
I got like 5 syncs plus 3 pyro balls
But it cudve been 6 syncs
The first gloria sync was 1:40
I guess with Morty boosting attack i can also dump some Gloria tiles
So leme rework this hmm
Got the recording yalls
Finally all syncs crit
https://youtu.be/AW6AYhqAROg?si=kpAUGhYf8cc8C9Rm
the real win is the thumbnail
It even says "W" right there
GloWia
triple fighting is next one, riley, nc rosa and barry? or hop instead of nc rosa? what's better fighting rebuff on opponents or fighting zone?
If you're using Rosa you're skipping barry for NC Blue for example
I dont have nc blue
speaking of riley, is the better timing to use his max move to max his attack before his first sync, or to wait for biggest possible bonus to the big damage number at the end?
i also presume smth like this and eating the timeloss from shielding strikes is the preferred grid, then bringing someone who can raise his speed
his sync effect boosts power on increased speed, so I'll take nc rosa, though I could try fighting trio with hop, riley and nc rosa, but there wouldnt be a status condition to spam sing
cant hop para?
champion hop
i know, zapdos
i thought he had the same thing like cynthia has
i would be going for numbing blow strats on cyn if i had a better spammer to complement them together
just ssa cynthia
dont have her either
not very helpful for dc anyway, mainly a defensive tank
yeah, i want her to be good but
though i should try to push out a run with her
this just isnt her style of fight
since i'm planning on doing that with ss kris anyway and i did with nc blue and melony as damage dealers
see: me last fighting dc getting 172k with her through sheer goddamn force
her bmove is so long 😭
yeah avoid that always unless it's essential to setup
this would need 2 grid upgrades but would mean someone who can give +4 would work (e.g. larry)
or we could just run ex skyla again
ultimate scuffed strats
Was planning to try her for zone and para together with bianca and rosa
I think bianca nukes harder than rei
big problem with her in dc is she doesn't have a good way of setting up zone
on intro and on sync and neither are extended
intro wtz is not lasting through setup so it's more of a hinderance than a help
and on sync it's only good for one sync on damage dealer at best
hop is better for fighting zone setup
if you run her as damage dealer tho you could run nc blue and aaron and have the fastest spam in the game with the most efficient setup
won't break 1m or anything but you could do it
... wait true
i could run aaron riley cynthia
immediate spam unlock
i was about to ask if sonia was maybe the move for para + speed for riley
she doesn't boost damage like at all though
beyond the one sync her sync fighting zone lasts
you dont think with spam it would be feasible to alternate riley and cynthia syncs?
ew
crippling yourself even further probably
and her zone on sync is its own animation each time too
fair enough ig
so sonia for para and +speed, exr riley, and ex elio then
could also maybe do lt. surge/raichu
sonia/melony ideally but elio is next best
since at least then posthaste has a chance not to proc
elio hardly benefits from the speed and just doesn't benefit from her reactive passive so that just drains time
so yeah surge would be a real option
yeah, the speed is purely for riley's multiplier
bc we dont want to waste time on cc (or grid slots on unbending/stalwart)
ofc
between 3/5 anni n, 2/5 ssmay and 5/5 mix blue who is best for the current fight?
its also 'when pokemon uses a move' not on success
so you can get there with empty twaves
thanks to riley's tm giving mga you can probably set it up p efficiently
3/5 anni n breaks 1m
neat
dunno what mix blue accomplishes
well in terms of score for current dc
The zone might last 2 syncs actually, both Cynthia and Riley have sprint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZTiIq_NLR4 at least this divided by 3 assuming you have +10e mix blue
ok so with surge leveled ofc but i can get riley bonus atk with gear, no theme skills but should be ok probably?
I'll see, she's still much better than other paralysers due to sprint and some zone use
ssa cynthia's zone kills 5 seconds every time she sets it it seems like
not sure she's getting more than 6 syncs even in single
Nc blue does nothing worthwhile for fighting
she doesn't on current rotation but it's +speed
on the team i'm using she needs it for her offensive buffs
but otherwise yeah
tho also one other consideration: redlax would be a second max knuckle
would mean no gmax replenish but
for bianca damage dealer i was thinking redlax/nc rosa yea
for those 5s you also get repeated sync accel and guaranteed lasting until next sync
mine is 2/5 and even with he1 gridded he was refusing to para for me on fire before invert stepped in to change up my team
its the desire sensors
they know
if only happy scout had given me elio 3/5
instead of. goddamn. ryuki.
nvm ssa cynthia dd can reach 7 syncs, had a reactive passive gridded
triage tank yes
presumably to get to hs1
yeah
brawl accel would also help with spam w/o mga i assume
does your grid look something like this?
yeah i was concerned it could consume time but it occurs during fighting zone animation and doesn't seem to cause any further delay
yeah, its like speeding sun
mostly but you can do more to max out her b move which you can use at the end
gotcha - wasnt sure if we were just clicking tm and then sync and not ever touching her attacks lmao
would be nice to get a +4pmun cc but alas
Ooo, next challenge is Triple Fighting? I get my revenge 
you're almost always able to fit in at least one last attack at the end after sync
yeah you are never touching that during setup
so riley going for a no pmun cc > cynthia's bmove i would think
as your final attack
ofc
ok cool just making sure im on the right page o7
aye
also doesnt risk proccing fist bump
i'll be running nc hop again for fighting triple but even as single target i think he's third best option? after rei/bianca
bianca im sure is going to put up some insane numbers
... also, would an empty heal order work the same as an empty potion
it does
my aaron is still 1/5 but
SSA Cynthia + Rei is a fast team, I easily reached 7 syncs + 2 B-moves way back when testing it out .. 8 syncs is barely possible if you dont use any B-move
https://streamable.com/pnjwm5
good team for non-NC Rosa havers (for Rosa havers just replace Aaron with Rosa)
empty heal order as first move to set up +1pmun for riley at least
the buff can be a little nice but the delay is definitely significant
was costing me a sync back when i was running ss red
gotcha
usually it'll be fine though
so zone is up long enough to manage 2 syncs
that's pretty significant then
so one more q then wrt zone
would zone + rileys post-first-sync seun make it worth using max knuckle sooner rather than saving it for the end
470atk into 580bp w/ seun and zone vs 470atk into 290bp w/ +speed +brawn sync 5 seun and zone
im truly not good enough at math to know
i ask in part bc of his max move accelerating sync by 3
so you can probably fit the sync after too just not with the seun
then again seun on 3 targets vs single target of max move
hmmm
instinctively i'd use max move before the last sync i could fit in taking into account max countdown
yeah thats my instinct too
and yeah with triple target sync you need seun there
alr cool
idk if we know the exact value of each sync buff stacked wrt how many sync buffs would you need to match the value of zone per se
so before i assumed just save the biggest move for last
wanted to cross reference
hm, absol's pastebin doesnt seem to have the stage details for tierno
it does but the triple is listed as single
ahh
thatll do it
83 def is what i was looking for
i think the biggest downside of the aaron ssa cyn riley comp is that he just cant max his speed fast enough
bc if he could....
0 until you input gear bonus under the gear row
When I tried it the last time there doesn't seem to be any way for me to input. Ah well, I'll try again when I have the chance. Thank you
Slowly improving my score.
Fighting Multi soon kuku


I'll be fine. I'm curious about how well Chuck can do, but I also have 3/5 Champion Bianca.
Nc bianca... But 2R for me
Ill play with colress and NC Hop
I might just do exr for nc hop for sheningans
it's looking pretty bad for chuck tbh
all he gets is interference sync 9 without a way to apply aoe interference and up to 2 uses of seun off his tm
Is there anyone that can para + aoe confusion?
3/5 NC Blue, and H Viola at any move level
Oh yes! Sometimes forget NC Blue can do that.
NC Blue + Melony + SC Guzma.
Guzma has 2.5x sync (need aoe confusion tho) and can roll +10 PMUN himself from 3 miss.
My possible best run gone like this
dena fix pls
gauge will not be happy though ok it'd be fine with sync freebie if you were working off that
Who has stronger AoE Sync? Bea or Bianca? 
I have no Rei and NCHop so I'm cooked too
Bianca, also remember her custom LS
Wat bianca custom ls?
Then Elio.
Circle S-M 4
Bianca and rei two best
Rei is super up next eva up
Bianca eva up flinch cirle
Bianc whit nc rosa pair for unova and rebuff. And nc blue.
Not Redlax for SEUN?
Maybe aura Cynthia can work, but unextended fighting zone is quite mhe






