Damage Challenge

[misty forge]

her damage is absolutely not a joke

her nuke too, is really nice

she just gets overshadowed because everyone runs her with nc red as debuffer and wtzbot

but that buddy hits hard as hell

[vapid kernel]

Finally

[true locust]

Silver snatch 1m:)

[vapid kernel]

Rank n38

[vernal condor]

Silver already got 1.8m lol

[azure vine]

Any teams with ss n?

[true locust]

Skipp did?

If you have him exr and extra energy sure can:)

[cursive saddle]

Can probably queue 1 more Blizzard but this is it for me

[ivory kestrel]

I also tried Holiday Leon for the funsies

[true locust]

Leon sync is base on freeze

So it realy no for this mode😒

[cursive saddle]

Chase then Melony then 4x Red sync

I think 5/5 Red can probably cross 4M with this comp

[forest forge]

I already did

[cursive saddle]

Yeah I just checked in game and was about to correct myself

How did the number 1 guy get almost 5M though

[true locust]

Since im not use chase

Nc blue for a win:)

[cursive saddle]

Oh you are the number 1 guy o.o

How many sync with Red?

[true locust]

6

[cursive saddle]

Blue Melony Red?

How did you squeeze 6 Red sync ._.

[true locust]

No melony and red

I don’t sync whit blue low sts and set rebuff take time

Better just sync whit red

[cursive saddle]

So all 6 sync with red?

Okay I'm gonna try that

[true locust]

Melony first then red

[cursive saddle]

Ok

[true locust]

And all red sync have 10 up

Special up next

[copper otter]

Certified wowzers moment

[raven saffron]

Idk how i'm gonna reach 4z red sync without insane TM MPRs from chase but damn

[cursive saddle]

oh I didn't need TM MPR

I just put Adrenaline on both Melony and Chase

[vernal condor]

no tm mpr yeah

juste dodge

born in 2021 reborn in 2024 welcome back lg strats

[normal parcel]

Same

[true locust]

Chase mpr are nice but they slow you down

[normal parcel]

Don't think you need MPR for chase

[true locust]

If some one use chase its like one use its all better just spam sing

Its the best use for eva special attack up then his trainer move

Since this trainer move is like lax slow you down spam sing is way fastet then use this

[latent plover]

As I suspected, Irida isn't optimal

Chase and Rosa/Melony are better

[vernal condor]

to nobody's surprise

[latent plover]

Yup. You'd think Ice Zone helps but no

Not even the egg Glaceon helps to get anywhere near 3 million

[vagrant ivy]

I’m cooking

now I will have to reset for 2 or more MPR on sync

[vagrant ivy]

colress ran out of gauge. he was my first choice for this but the lack of sustain at 1/5 is a big nono

[latent plover]

@vernal condor

[vernal condor]

lul

I could get more but it's too rng so I'm not trying

[vagrant ivy]

oh people already got 1m with hala

[latent plover]

Me too. I actually got 3 million on first try because I got godly rng but took me a long time to improve

[vagrant ivy]

how many tm mpr did you reset for

[vernal condor]

0

[latent plover]

Yeah 0

It's better to not click on his tm

Too many times that is

[teal harness]

its not on the spreadsheet, the only hala Im seeing did 800k

[misty forge]

there was also a couple 900k earlier

[vagrant ivy]

progress

so SEUN is not worth after all

[warped gulch]

No NC Blue ?

Bc chase doesn’t help Hala much

[vernal condor]

at all

[vagrant ivy]

he exists in my dreams

I’d use literally anyone else that can sustain sing spam and do something else

and support EX

[pallid girder]

Did you use Melony's gmax? If not use it. It can score you a few more points.

[vernal condor]

I lied
I wanted to try NC Blue and got this 1st try lol

[latent plover]

It's less rng than with Chase?

[vernal condor]

I got a para

Which allowed me to use a b ice beam after blizzard

[vagrant ivy]

optimal hala comp looks like BP Barry gladion or nc blue melony

and my DC gladion isn’t EX

rad

[lethal siren]

I sweared to do 2m no matter wht

[lethal siren]

Oh ye
Nc blue gives kanto flag bearer
I will try this team too

[sullen zephyr]

Is 20 spatk or +2% sync better?

[vernal condor]

For Red 20 spatk for sure

his spa is low

[vagrant ivy]

so top scorer is nc red nc blue nc rosa?

from what I’ve seen

[warped gulch]

Rosa is very consistent

I only para 1 enemy and still able to Sync with Red 5 times

And Rosa also makes Red can grab anything else

Bc she alone gives Red +5 SMUN

[sacred badger]

nc rosa gaming?

[lethal siren]

You can add melony too instead of rosa

[sacred badger]

hm

ookaaay

[lethal siren]

I could do only 3 sync with red

[normal parcel]

Wasn't another blizzard better?

[sullen zephyr]

Is irida not as good as blue for supporting red?

[chilly sierra]

Not bad I guess

[normal parcel]

Hail and zone take too much time plus no paralysis

[sullen zephyr]

How about dc gladion for instant zone on sync with barry?

[normal parcel]

I guess lack of paralysis still hurts too much and you lose a support ex

[sullen zephyr]

Or are blue's passive and melony's fast spam better than ice zone?

[normal parcel]

Yes they are better

[warped gulch]

Ay, 3m with CS2 and garbage gears

[normal parcel]

Ice zone is good but not if it costs you whole syncs

[vernal condor]

Didn't have the gauge

I could barely click ice beam to begin with

[normal parcel]

Makes sense

[sullen zephyr]

Irida doesn't nuke very hard for a tech

Maybe Red is better even for ST

[vast glade]

I was stupid and forgot NC Red had no brainpower so I adjusted his grid and improved my score

Not sure if I'll try Chase though

[sullen zephyr]

Why are yall using nc rosa instead of melony? Isn't she slower due to forme change?

[warped gulch]

I still saw Melony more tho

I used Rosa and didn’t Sync with her at all

The benefit of Rosa is she buff +4 SMUN (5 if grid) by herself with +4 speed

So you dont need to click anything from Blue and still let Red has +10 SMUN

But she also helps Red grid different thing

[sullen zephyr]

Ooh smun stacking shenaningan

Does blizzard deal more dmg than b ice beam?

[warped gulch]

Normally Red will grid +2 SMUN more from grid, but Rosa just helps Red ignore it

With SP3

[sullen zephyr]

Is 1st sync hail with red worth it for hail sync up 5?

That 20 energy is kinda steep

[vast glade]

When does you use Rosa's TM in this comp?

[warped gulch]

At the beginning

[sullen zephyr]

Just spam it when she can spam sing i guess?

[warped gulch]

Hail is really bad

[ivory kestrel]

Reached 3M. Realized that i had hail tiles on Red’s grid (from earlier Irida comp runs)

[vast glade]

So I burn it all before NC Blue syncs right?

[warped gulch]

That why Irida isn’t that great

[warped gulch]

Yeah

[vast glade]

And then I don't sync with Rosa at all?

[warped gulch]

Yup

[vast glade]

Does Blue do something?

[sullen zephyr]

Right. I almost forgot hail does chip damage

Irida sucks i guess

[vast glade]

Besides sync?

[lethal siren]

Do u have head start on blue and melony?

[warped gulch]

Para ofc

Best is flinch from the start

Discharge->Blizzard->Rosa’s Tm

[ivory kestrel]

How are you guys critting with Melony’s Max move (i assume, based on the numbers i see)? Are you using Team Sharp Entry with her?

[ivory kestrel]

Adren on NcBlue, Head Start on Melony

[lethal siren]

Ohl

[vast glade]

Does Blue use something after Discharge or he only syncs?

[warped gulch]

Only that

[vast glade]

Not even TM?

[warped gulch]

Rosa already gives speed and SMUN so no point clicking anything more

[sullen zephyr]

Should 10pmun be spent on blizzard or ice beam?

*smun

[warped gulch]

Red: Blizzard->TM: 5 SMUN
Rosa: 2 Tm: 4 SMUN

[unique abyss]

ig I'm done with this dc

[warped gulch]

You can have 1 more by Rosa or Blue

[lethal siren]

+10 smun Blizzard was more useful

[vast glade]

If Rosa refreshes, is it worth going for tm again or no?

[safe prawn]

Is there any video of the Chase Melony combo?

[warped gulch]

No

Tm mpr isn’t worthy

[vast glade]

Thanks

[lethal siren]

No video tho

[warped gulch]

That team reach 4m already tho

[sullen zephyr]

Aoe with 3 targets is ×1.5 total damage right?

[safe prawn]

Yeah that is what I was looking for

[bright niche]

How people are spamming this fast to reach that score as I am barely at 2.5 million

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/FModz3eVlqY?si=QsXll_cp7V7Lq-fv

[bright niche]

Wtf I read 8.8 million

[lethal siren]

Lmao

[lethal siren]

Which team

[bright niche]

NC Rosa NC red and OG red

NC red has 10 smun too

[lethal siren]

Ye

Wait

Was I using WW3

In this run

I used it with irida
Idk if I changed it or not

[bright niche]

Opponent is spamming attack faster than my sing lol

Nc red has SP 3 too

[lethal siren]

Lol

[bright niche]

What's ur score

[shut loom]

What other pairs do i use with red and articuno for this challenge

[bright niche]

Noice this team is already at above 3.5 million but unfortunately I don't have chase

[shut loom]

Why do you use melony

[warped gulch]

Sing spam ofc

[safe prawn]

Thx

[warped gulch]

Enemy in this DC is just freaking fast lol

They even killed my Barry when i tried f2p

[shut loom]

And just sync with red?

[bright niche]

Yea true

[fluid anvil]

can Irida by herself, WITHOUT red, get 1M here?

[bright niche]

I think yea

But need red rebuff too

Lol

NC red is overall best

[vagrant ivy]

like 4 missed crits

this run was what I called “ultra greed”

where I go for 1 TM mpr on hala with 5 syncs

no he doesn’t have CS2

1m is distant but possible with right LS and better luck

[warped gulch]

Idk tbh

Missing 2 Crit Sync

[vagrant ivy]

irida as main DD

[unique abyss]

I forgot that I don't have SP3 No deluxe cookies tho

[vagrant ivy]

my hala doesn't even have CS2 and hes doing 900k

he has power flux 3

CS2 and SP3 diff is not relevant enough to cookie for most of the time

[vast glade]

Thanks, @warped gulch

No paralyzis but better than previous attempts. I am done with this DC

[lethal siren]

The funny thing is

I forgot to use CS2 on red here

[tired narwhal]

How much damage difference can really good special gear do compared to like special gear that just boosts a special attack (+95)

[bright niche]

Lol

[lethal siren]

I am gonna do it with CS2 now

And I gave melony sync tiles and cs2

[tired narwhal]

Like a million?

[lethal siren]

Lemme show my progress with each battle

[tired narwhal]

Or a few hundred thousand

Maybe not a million

[lethal siren]

Another dc pair

[ivory kestrel]

I wonder who will have a better score in ice dc 3v1: NC Red or SS Silver?

[tired narwhal]

I feel def red

[lethal siren]

SS N?

[ivory kestrel]

SS Silver with Sneasel

[lethal siren]

His sync tile is kinda easy to setup

Demoralising sync

Dirty sync 6

[ivory kestrel]

I keep on forgetting about SS N. But isnt SS Silver still have the higher sync potential than him?

[lethal siren]

Can be

Just stating an option to use in 3v1

[narrow sluice]

Got the run!

[lethal siren]

Sync nuke to melony?

[narrow sluice]

A reminder she has an Ice Type Max Move. Use it at the end

[lethal siren]

Oh lol

Max move saves time

So it can be used

Why I didn't think of that

[vapid kernel]

Melony still does better

[vapid kernel]

I stand corrected

[rare apex]

🦀

[sacred badger]

holiday leon... damn haaah

if only he had haymaker

[rare apex]

1v3 fire next eh

[sacred badger]

ye

[thin wren]

what's the highest score rn

[sacred badger]

for what

[thin wren]

and what comp

[sacred badger]

3.8m for nc red

[thin wren]

ice aoe

no 4 mil yet?

[sacred badger]

no idea

[thin wren]

is irida being used

[sacred badger]

irida comp i saww was 2m

[lethal siren]

Gloria will be good too
She already has brawn sync 5

[thin wren]

What partners are the top nc red comps using

[rare apex]

4/5 exr ss may should be fine for me i think

[lethal siren]

Nc rosa

Melony

[thin wren]

ah as expected

with chase I assume?

[lethal siren]

Ye

[rain copper]

Something something check the pins for comps

[lethal siren]

Some with classic Red too

And rosa

[sacred badger]

the 3.8m one was running nc blue/melony or chase & melony

[thin wren]

idt pins mention what the top ice comps are using

[ivory kestrel]

Probably the top score is NC Red with Chase and Melony, and with some crazy skill gears and insane rng

[lethal siren]

Not much rng

Ig

[thin wren]

it's gonna be weird if nc red doesn't break 4 mil

[sacred badger]

i've got nc red/melony and nc blue, got to 2.5m .-.

[thin wren]

chase gives a bigger boost than blue for special units

[sacred badger]

difficult to get a 4th sync with nc red tbh

[thin wren]

especially kanto

chase comps have evasion cheese to get that 4th sync in

[sacred badger]

chase wants 3/5 or more right?

[ivory kestrel]

You can clinch 3M, i’ve gotten 3m with both Melony and NC Rosa as sleepers. And i’ve had decent but not crazy good skill gears

[lethal siren]

I also have decent gears

[thin wren]

1/5 should be fine just slightly worse unless you start syncing with main dd before 1:40

[lethal siren]

I got 2m without CS2

[rain copper]

I got 2.5 m with the gears from st Fairy 😬

[lethal siren]

Will try with CS2

I forgot to give him that lmao

[plush palm]

first attempt

[vagrant ivy]

5/5 colress and redlax, cannot be me

what lucky skill

[shut loom]

Does anyone have video with melony nc red and nc blue

[plush palm]

HS on colress and redlax

CS2 on hala

[real wind]

Don't have NC Red and enough mats to EX Hala (after exing Sawyer and Rachel)... So I'm just testing out Tech Ice units I've have and...

If Redlax + Colress... I only reached 300k+ (tho forgot to Screenshot)

[plush palm]

might need a faster debuffer than ss n

hes super slow w/ debuffing

[normal parcel]

The best thing about N is that paralyzes so you can use something like melony

[lethal siren]

Oh I will try how ss n will work

Tbh
Opponent spams move fast

Or maybe it's because aoe

Which takes more time

[real wind]

I guess you can show me a more optimize SS N team (I only have Supports like Elio, Colress*, Redlax and NC Rosa for DCs fully available maybe the likes of NC Blue and Melony can make a change)

[normal parcel]

Maybe SC Steven if you have him

[real wind]

Also, Irida seems to have a potential (tho the Hail Chip DMG is something to look after )

Sadly I don't have SC Steven

[cursive linden]

Bruh

😭

[normal parcel]

Is b move still slow even if the enemy is at -6 stats?

[copper otter]

Has anyone done PalCandice yet?

[lethal siren]

Ig someone did?

[cursive linden]

900k

I saw one

[lethal siren]

Wht abt pryce

[warped gulch]

I tried her, but sadly missed 2 crit

[copper otter]

Pryce would be impossible

[copper otter]

He wants freeze

[normal parcel]

I know that regular noble roar is fast at -6 spa/atk, is b noble roar still slow at -6 att/spa/speed?

[lethal siren]

Yes

Not even seasonal steven

He needs flinch

[cursive linden]

He's gonna be the "MC Pikachu" of Ice 3v3 all over again

[normal parcel]

Does Pryce even have a sync multiplier?

[real wind]

I guess... Ghetsis is next

[normal parcel]

BP Candice should be better than pryce

Guess N is your best bet

Wondering if for N DPS strats may work (his move gives sync countdown every use and has over 300 BP)

[plush palm]

smth like N + ghetsis maybe

his move is alsp super slow

[normal parcel]

Charging should be fast, and execution nets you -2 sync countdown

Ok more like -1 since it doesn't reduce sync by itself

[vagrant ivy]

hala is still the best for F2P

i think

[normal parcel]

For f2p definitely

[vagrant ivy]

but he is slow af so sing spam is bad unless you have great gauge support

[real wind]

Even if Wulfric gets an EX, Hala still be the better F2P options (it's just idiotic of me to EX Sawyer and Rachel... Maybe next rerun )

[latent plover]

Red + Blue + Melony is actually pretty chill in rng

I only needed a single para proc

[thin wren]

chase is the most optimal tho (and chase has some rng)

[real wind]

Ghetsis is not cooperating with me (not landing Crit Syncs)... So here's a DC Clear no one is probably asking

I'll end my run for now

[latent plover]

Decided to improve a little

I don't think I could go any farther than this

[vapid kernel]

Use Pryce Ex

[latent plover]

How they got more than 4 million???

[vapid kernel]

Nc red exceeds 4M

[brave parcel]

What kind of supports do I want for him?

[vapid kernel]

That #1 guy is always a bit higher than the rest, maybe he has perfect gears

[brave parcel]

I can send my roster in a moment if that helps

Also ghetsis is my only ice dps atm

[tired narwhal]

Yeah idk if it was that ash I spoke to, or a different one. But they did say they had really good special gear

[latent plover]

Yeah I see, but how? He needs 8 sync buffs for that

And I have no idea how you can sync 6 times with Red

I only got 5 barely

[cursive linden]

Oh God.....
Both Rosa and Skyla are 1/5 no EX

[brave parcel]

Yeah so about rosa

I have 19 of her power ups

I dont know why im missing one

Someone said maybe its in daily rewards

[latent plover]

Did you check if you completed her bingo?

[brave parcel]

And I havent gotten there yet

I did

Ive checked everywhere (i think)

[latent plover]

Weird. You should be able to EX her

Did you exchange a power up?

[brave parcel]

Yeah im not sure myself, I dont think I exchanged any either

No

Skyla is 1/5 just cuz I havent pulled her like ever

[latent plover]

Skyla is a story unit. You need to manually upgrade her

You can't pull Skyla from scouts

[brave parcel]

Oh, from like side story?

[latent plover]

No from the main story. You already got her so you can't scout her to get more copies

[brave parcel]

Ohhh

Oh you’re saying I need candies, I see

[latent plover]

Yup

They're rather easy to get though

[brave parcel]

I have like 2

[thin wren]

chase

[thin wren]

Chase dodge

[rapid sparrow]

Red is best Nuker?

Do I need Hail or just do it without

[thin wren]

chase melony

[rapid sparrow]

I mean i can still grid hail on red sync

Would probably last me 2 syncs

Or will it eat time because of hail damage

[thin wren]

do you believe in dodging everything

[civic island]

Surrended to the standard 🔵🍈

[vapid kernel]

I got 3.2M , is it a damage roll issue or what hmm

[vapid kernel]

Did ur nc blue hv mind games

[civic island]

No

HS1

[civic island]

Probably gears

But also if you wanna push yeah mindgames 2 blue is the way, but triple para+that looks pain

~~ supreme entry melony ~~

[latent plover]

I had mind games on my Blue

It procced but I didn't get all three paralysed. It's too much of a hassel to reset to all three para, mind games proc and para proc all at once

[civic island]

Yeah, fishing for both is not worth outside ranked
That -3 it's not much after all
3% dmg boost

[rapid sparrow]

Wot
I must be doing something really wrong

[summer shadow]

200k with pal candice

Tfw she gets regen on her tm

[rapid sparrow]

Whats the grid you have for NC Red guys?

[summer shadow]

I gotta ex melony

Wait shit

Ive been using hilbert and i forgot hes ex

Im gonna charge my phone

[dry whale]

I swear at times the entire party has piercing gaze and that Crobat has On a Roll 9.

This is my current best, just a matter of time before I get on a run that can hit that extra sync.

[vagrant ivy]

6 nc red syncs?

[true locust]

Its my

[rare apex]

one attempt i had like, 4 hala tm mprs but got shafted by 4 defense drops

[scenic grotto]

Officially my lowest 3v3 score (all the other 3v3 scores being at least 800k)

[vast glade]

Followed a strat from reddit and managed to get a bit more

Now I am really done with this

Hurts not reaching that 3 and half mark though

[crude sandal]

How the hell do you guys get above 3.3M?

[true locust]

Nc red is easy 3,5m+

[nova remnant]

He can 1m with support EXR but I'm nearly out of cake vouchers lol

also i swear crunch has on a roll 9

[crude sandal]

My best is only 3.3M, and Red having CS2 isn't the problem

[civic island]

No energy cap
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3/14400?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFBgkMDQ8fISIkLi8&x=true

But it's the usual Blue+Melony run

[latent plover]

That's the best I got with Chase

I'm having a bad time getting to 5th sync. Last one wasn't in circle

I guess I need to use circle only after first sync?

[fallen trail]

thought this was good for first try but its not even top 500 bruh

[fallen trail]

melonys max move doesnt waste any time so might as well use it at the end for some extra points

[latent plover]

The shields though

[fallen trail]

they dont waste time

[latent plover]

They don't?

[fallen trail]

the timer starts moving again after the shields go up

i just tested it

cuz its tied to the move

not a passive

[latent plover]

Interesting. Gonna try that

[latent plover]

You need to land one more sync

[fallen trail]

hmm yeah

thats why chase is better here i suppose

[latent plover]

You can land 5 with Blue too

Chase's passive is so annoying here

The healing that is

[civic island]

Circle take time
Maybe you can sync with melony
You lose some sync but you get some extra for blizzard
Also remember Melony max move

[fallen trail]

if chase is exr def sync with him

[civic island]

I meant both

[fallen trail]

oh hmm

[civic island]

If one Red sync has to happen outside circle, then maybe thading his first sync with melony can help

[lethal siren]

This is my final score

Won't do anything more

[ivory kestrel]

https://youtu.be/5ARPCIVnNPs?si=aLILPeX7_Fd88cD3 here’s a good one (not mine)

[fallen trail]

i dont see how i can get 5 red syncs in w blue/melony

oh a video

ohhh ok ok he doesnt use blues tm at all and grids for protect smun

i was using blues tm thats why i was slow

would the two +25 sync tiles be a better use of 10 energy than furious brain if you really only attack w strong blizzard at the end

[rapid sparrow]

How am i scoring 1m then

Interesting

[misty forge]

No tech exr?

Also are you not keeping the smun stack?

[fallen trail]

yeah red is weird you need to keep smun up the whole fight

he gets 10% to his sync move for each smun

so try to keep him at +10

use blizzard first THEN use tm

[wise mulch]

[plush palm]

Youre doing smth wrong even w/o ex hala. check his grid and LS and maybe chuck colress for egg glaceon if you have it

theres no reason to run both colress and barry

[wise mulch]

Ahhh yupp I didn't fill his grid to increase damage during hail and haymaker? ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ

[misty forge]

You're nut meant to attack anyway

His first sync should still do more than 80k

[normal parcel]

Is Blue still better than chase?

Or at least less RNG?

[pallid girder]

Less RNG ofc, but if only in 3~4M range they both achieve it quite easily imo.
Only after 4M range it becomes an issue with Chase bc the opponents have TOO MANY aoes.

1M with Hala + DC Gladion + BP Barry is possible!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r7QYeajaeE

[normal parcel]

Tried e run with both scored w bit less with blue, but o got a bit less than 2.5m,, does optimal run sync with both supports?

Maybe I could see if I can land an extra sync with extension on chase maybe by using circle later

How much does circle lasts?

80 seconds?

[vagrant ivy]

progress, gentlemen, progress

[normal parcel]

I mean extended circle

[vagrant ivy]

after 1 full run of villa I was only able to get him CS1

[normal parcel]

There's also the lucky cookie training course, but costs stamina (and you can't get deluxe)

[misty forge]

With red I'm pretty sure making him sync after first support is better?

[pallid girder]

If you can sync 4 times or more with the striker, always do double ex support sync is what I've heard.

[vagrant ivy]

I love how my strat involves premium units and has to be very lucky to get the fifth sync and crit everything for 1m

meanwhile the F2P run is chill with only 4 syncs and considerably less rng needed

legit got the sync with less than a second on the clock

[normal parcel]

I mean if you are using a tech, is Normal

[vagrant ivy]

1m this DC should put you a bit below 5k from my observations

looks like a lot of people are doing great, that’s cool

[true solstice]

Any decent ss silver teams for this dc?

[old valve]

Hmmmm

Would Chase or Neo Blue be better to pair with Neo Red here

Also is it worth it to make Neo Red spec into that "first sync move hail" stuff or nah

[nova remnant]

i used the ol' NCBlue/Melony and got 900k

[vagrant ivy]

nc blue

if you have him

[nova remnant]

with support EXR it can 1m

but i'm not gonna EXR him atm

running thin of vouchers

[vagrant ivy]

does this make ss silver the second best unit against his own dc after nc red

irida does not get 1m last I checked

[nova remnant]

can Hala 1m with the same team?

[true solstice]

What if I don’t have nc blue 🫡

[nova remnant]

or does he need zone

[vagrant ivy]

yes but LS gears and extreme rng are required

[nova remnant]

ah

[vagrant ivy]

or you can use ex Dc gladion much simpler

[nova remnant]

yeah perhaps SS Silver might be second best, i didn't use any specific gears for him

[pallid girder]

In 3~4M range they perform mostly identical.
Ppl who aim for more than 4M think NC Blue is easier to do.

[old valve]

Good to know

NC blue it is

[vagrant ivy]

maybe daily scout gives me nc red tomorrow

[pallid girder]

And 100% no hail bullshit.

[old valve]

Gotcha lol

Figured

But I wanted to be 100%

[vagrant ivy]

melony spams as always and uses max move at very end for extra damage

[old valve]

Should I fish for SMUN 10 via glory of the winning path mpr or nah

Idk how big of a mult that thing is on red's sync lol

[pallid girder]

No need to.
Pick both Protect: Move: Special Boost ↑2 9 & Glory of the Winning Path!: Move: Special Boost ↑2 9 in his tile is all you need.

[old valve]

That's a very good point actually

Soooooo this should work then right?

Or am I missing anything important? I tend to do that apparently so

[vagrant ivy]

Current Best DC score: 3v3 steel at 2247750
Current Worst DC score: 1v3 ground at 247332

about 1v3 ground, team was chase ss gio Courtney

[old valve]

Half decent start

I don't think Melony's max move hit the crit lol

Can't believe Crit Strike 2 is totally worthless

[wooden panther]

Forgot to take a picture when I played, but You Can Too

I didn’t have enough orbs to select MPR on Red’s TM, so I selected +20 SpA and +5 Speed with the 9 remaining I had. I used pykuo’s strategy, but gave Chase Head Start and did +1 Sing before Chase Sync.

[summer shadow]

Sadly i dont have tickets to get her to 6*

[crude sandal]

You have no sync spammer

[summer shadow]

Thats what melony is for

[crude sandal]

I mean you have no one to inflict status

[summer shadow]

Oh

That makes sense

[wooden panther]

I missed an extra Blizzard at the end, but easy 3+mil with this configuration

[latent plover]

This battle is so rng with Chase-Melony-Red team

Like you want so many misses

These dazzling gleams especially sucks

[west creek]

i did something else

[ivory kestrel]

come on, man, call me a party pooper, but you gotta stop doing these, people who casually pass by this channel might actually believe your dc "clears" are real and achievable

[west creek]

you are actually right

mb

but where should i post my "art" 👉 👈

[misty forge]

Could've edited it to look more legit

[ivory kestrel]

i dont think there's a meme channel here lol

[west creek]

should've been 13 mln true

[west creek]

[pallid girder]

Use Paintbrush or sth and make it look as fake as fuck is fine.
But tbh it's only funny the first time imo.

[west creek]

oof, wanted to make it a periodical meme )=

i understood

[acoustic chasm]

No NC Blue

[fallen trail]

it was def only funny the first time

[glossy token]

q about this f2p clear: is bp barry for supp sync > colress for -6def? i suppose it saves you needing the extra mpr refresh(es) on hala but

without having the resources to get anywhere near those move levels or ex i cant play around with it myself

[lapis yarrow]

Is 2/5 NC Red worth using?

[acoustic chasm]

What the heck, almost the same result with hail

[safe prawn]

Finally got the 4th sync in

Trash gears

[cloud timber]

there is no colress in that screenshot

and skipping mprs is just a straight downgrade to your output

need ex dc gladion for ice zone otherwise you're settling for one less sync with glaceon or running the classic colress + redlax

which was proven much better, the latter

[glossy token]

my question was surprise that we had a bp barry clear and didnt have any colress clear to compare it to, bc i wouldve assumed that using colress as your spammer for the -def on all syncs would offer more benefit than the bonus sync buff over the course of the fight

[cloud timber]

support ex is indeed more important

[glossy token]

i guess another way to say what i was trying to ask is like

if you bring colress, you dont sync with him, so your first sync is with dc gladion, then all syncs are with hala so you need to roll high for more mprs than barry would need, since that would be barry -> dc gladion -> hala which means you have fewer mprs needed overall

[cloud timber]

first sync with dc gladion is really bad too, ice zone runs out way too early

[glossy token]

but on thinking about it, im guessing yeah zone ends too soon

so supp sync + delaying your gladion sync so that you get stronger hala syncs to be boosted by zone

[cloud timber]

yeah

also debuffs in this game are weaker than in the main series and in dc its effect is halved with the mitigation passives

combined with screech consuming a bunch of time it's not too great for colress as you might think at first

to a point where even if you are using colress it's not always best to go to -6 defense

[glossy token]

huh, fascinating

i didnt realize the mitigation passives altered the value of def drops

[cloud timber]

yeah you'll see one of them when you use screech

don't remember the exact name off the top of my head

[normal parcel]

Ok gridding for circle extension is definitely worth it, but o got some dodges

[glossy token]

hm. i have 700+ tickets bc i have picked up 1/5 for dc blue and marnie and was waiting to see if i would want dupes or to grab a wider roster variety; gladion isnt worth it here bc i cant afford to ex hm (or barry lmao) but thats def a really good thing to know going forward for the remaining dcs

[cloud timber]

sonia + melony probably next best

could potentially be even better but no one tried

[glossy token]

sonia + melony even though hala's tm gets him +6atk in 1 and she has a react passive?

[cloud timber]

yes

sonia's tm isn't the relevant thing here

[glossy token]

oh right my sonia is newly 3/5 i can actually use her now

[cloud timber]

it's her para and mga and defense debuffs with tackle

[normal parcel]

Definitely could have scored more with super powered 3, but at least red has guaranteed crit so cs2 isn't that of a downgrade

[glossy token]

lemme recheck her grid

ahh

[cloud timber]

far more efficient than screech

[glossy token]

do you kit her with def crush ls and aim for 2x drops?

[normal parcel]

But not more efficient than AOE screech (unless you are going for single target)

[cloud timber]

right

[glossy token]

so then the question is, do you grid her for potion mpr and try to empty potion as much as possible after you fish for t1 spark para? or do you just do the the 2 empty potions and then tackle?

[cloud timber]

i've never used sonia in multi or at all beyond rock single but dc ls can work

mpr doesn't proc on failed uses, no need to grid it

[glossy token]

... it doesnt?? til lmao

[cloud timber]

unless you find that you really need a 3rd mga

[pallid girder]

Potion only worth using if your one ally have full hp, which is not gonna happen after 1st turn in this dc.

[cloud timber]

can't get out more than one failed use if the first attack is aoe which it might be

forgot

yea

[glossy token]

yeah i thought first attack this round wasnt aoe but i could be wrong

last round it was eq

is it air cutter this cycle?

[civic island]

Wait till october, 10 days and you could find the new unit more interesting (if we get one)
Btw no hurries, there are little no relevance in dc units for the next stages until maybe *single ice at the end of october

[cloud timber]

would be single ice

[civic island]

Yea /single

[pallid girder]

Btw about def drop. There's a BP Barry + DC Gladion + Hala 1M run and they did give Gladion dc2 and fish for def drop by icy wind for 2 turns.

[cloud timber]

did they use tm mpr?

i'm surprised they had the time to fit those in

speed debuffs must have actually mattered too

[latent plover]

This took me forever to get but I got to top 20 at least. For now

Uploading the run soon

[glossy token]

yeah, im not pressed/rushing for anything, but i was also thinking the whole gimmick of the dc units being wtz on entry without actually having a move to set it (other than sync) is much less valuable than the sprints (i picked up marnie not for dark zone/dark utility, but bc she has a MUCH better focus blast for getting spdef drops than mc/solgaleo - which was one of the strats i had tried for the 3v1 fighting dc way back when to try and get any good damage out of ssa cynthia lmao)

[glossy token]

that sounds so cursed oh my god

[normal parcel]

Isn't 1st move crunch?

[cloud timber]

maybe i didn't check or remember

[pallid girder]

Yes. It's only 5 sync in total: 1 bp Barry + 1 dc Gladion + 3 Hala, and they rolled 2 mpr so all 3 syncs from Hala have SEUN.
Also the dc2 only proc once so -1 team def.

[cloud timber]

ye that's the normal amount of syncs for that team

so the speed debuffs are actually doing work

in my run there's less than 2 seconds left after getting mpr for every sync and playing at min speed

[pallid girder]

I'm in the opposite: both dc Nemona and dc Gladion showed that they can help ppl do 1M with f2p units more easily at 1/5 ex so they're more useful, while the sprint if want to deal dmg need 3/5.

[shut loom]

what grid are yall using for nc red

[glossy token]

you can check the sheet in the pins for the grids of all submitted clears

[glossy token]

tbh its mostly just that my roster has so few -spdef units and the dc -spdef units are largely the sprints. most likely my next pickup will be silver for both flying zone and -spdef aoe on air cutter, but like tropechan said it does depend on what the next dc unit winds up being

[fallen trail]

there we go. first time cracking 3 mil and its not even top 100 LOL

[glossy token]

red truly do go brrrrr

[civic island]

Yes any generic settler is just better in comparsion, entry+requiring to sync is taking a lot
And Sprint units being damage focused looks good

[latent plover]

The field units are nice for F2P clears I guess

But yeah they get outclassed

[civic island]

Nemona/Silver yeah
Others not much if you got the eggos

[misty forge]

Gladion too

He has a lot of utility

[glossy token]

once we have a full cycle complete i wonder how difficult it would be to dig thru the data for not just who gets used the most like nc blue, but who the biggest damage dealers are overall (e.g. summing nc red, mix red, and sygna red's values across ice grass and fire)

[misty forge]

That's just common sense

[civic island]

If you got egg glaceon he's not doing much
ST both him and marnie can be useful bu still, eggs

[misty forge]

Red has 2 busted and 1 amazing unit + 1 fantastic dc support

[latent plover]

https://youtu.be/auQD8UgnFjY

[misty forge]

Wdym

Mini pot all, debuffing and sustain is very good on him

His 3/5 is genuinely really nice

[civic island]

Talking abt DC

[misty forge]

Well duh then

I meant in general

[civic island]

General they're all goot at base 1/5

Themes and roles for BR 📈

And a lot of stuff for LG

[cloud timber]

also the field ex alone is much better than glaceon's 2 ice wishes in terms of time consumption, idk if anyone ever reached 5 syncs with hala bp barry glaceon

[civic island]

You're taking one sync
And you still have zone on entry

If you can fit Field exr sync+ 4 dps syncs
You can probably fit 5 dps syncs and only 4 of them covered by zone

[glossy token]

ig im just curious about like. yes red has a bunch of cracked units, but there are cracked units that dont excel in this format due to animation length or other constraints - red seems like the obvious top dog, but i wonder how other trainers would compare. red has fire, electric, ice, and grass; blue has flying, rock, fire (2 technically), and electric that he can deal respectable damage in; steven has psychic and steel (maybe ice?); serena and lillie are impaired by being largely tech and supp respectively despite having type variety in their units; hmmm i wonder about n

[cursive linden]

You forgot the grid in the video

[cloud timber]

yeah but… pykuo and i tested glaceon in game

it turns out worse

[latent plover]

It's in the video, I just didn't link it yet

[cloud timber]

nobody else has proven to get glaceon to be on par

let alone better

unless i missed something

glaceon is just one of those things that sound much better than they are

just the single extra ice zone animation is that bad

[glossy token]

(are all the [tech i presume] eeveelution eggmon field setters?)

(if so thats extra something to look forward to in november)

[vernal condor]

yeah they all set a wtz of their type

[civic island]

I had a run with Glacion and NC Red
Putting the rebuff on sync aside, I was able to sync 5 times with him
There's no way Gladion would have performed better

If the hala run requires time because of his TM it's a more specific thing

[azure hornet]

Did you use Super Preparation for this

[cloud timber]

yeah red is way less clunky to max out so it's much cleaner to fit in more syncs with him

[rare apex]

ye

[cloud timber]

don't need extra setup on every sync

[rare apex]

need at least one refresh i think

[glossy token]

anyway im having too much fun in theory corner i need to go back to formatting my thread

o7 gamers have fun

[cloud timber]

also red should be running nc blue + melony anyway, adam said he ran that and got his score off having max smun on every sync

improves hala too maybe though i haven't seen the 1m f2p clear

[civic island]

Yep, it's the same thing of syncing with one extra supp ex, it's more abt time

[cloud timber]

in terms of spending tickets for dc gladion for this mode it's nuanced at worst rather than being a straight downgrade to glaceon, it's more his usefulness for other modes that make him important to redeem/invest

hence why the only redeem i bothered with until dc silver was getting 3/5 gladion

used him for rally many times since

[civic island]

And it's always there
Idk how many got all the eeveelutions

[cloud timber]

i certainly didn't

had to make sure i got glaceon

i think i missed sylveon

[icy pendant]

would give you a spare shiny if I could

[civic island]

But for ST when there should be more time could will be a difference
It's abt Hala being too clanky, I mean 3 syncs with dps is really low

[azure hornet]

Got a lower score than I did with Classic Red and Colress I had two TM MPRs as well

[civic island]

Crits difference?

[azure hornet]

Possibly

[civic island]

I'm getting too much used to stuff with sure crit on triple

[cloud timber]

nvm it was espeon that i was missing

[cloud timber]

hala with nc blue melony should be reaching 6 syncs, must be missing a lot of crits with cs2 if that didn't happen

but i think it's missing one of the syncs

8 sync buffs

[azure hornet]

It was 999,600 before the last second Ice Hammer

[cloud timber]

gg

[restive galleon]

Is improvement possible

[cloud timber]

at this point i'm never doing sing spam at max speed, always slowest or sometimes medium

[restive galleon]

I don't think spam would work as silver needs a lot of setup

[cloud timber]

unless i'm super confident that it doesn't matter

[pallid girder]

Improvement is ditch Irida bc she's quite useless in dc.

[cursive linden]

Bring colress i suppose

Replace Irida with him

Also, does Arc Steven have the kek?

[restive galleon]

Yes

[restive galleon]

Hail and ice zone tho

Silver needs hail for heavy hail 5

Ice zone just shoots his nuke higher

[pallid girder]

You don't want hail. SS Silver has 3 other sync multipliers so ditch hail multipler doesn't hurt him.
Egg Glacion or DC gladion is better ice zone setters than Irida in dc standard.

[royal jolt]

Yes

I just hit 1M with him a few minutes ago

[restive galleon]

What team

[restive galleon]

Welp shit i don't have sc steven

I also don't have dc ice zone or egg ice zone

[pallid girder]

SS Silver can do 1M with the regular NC Blue + Melony spam, tho that clear is said to be need his exr.

[restive galleon]

How do you even reach 6 sync nukes anyway

Everytime I queue sleep with melony or elio it takes longer cuz of sleep animation or somehow enemy queues a move after every sing

[royal jolt]

Damn

I could try other units ^^
I'm kind of just having fun with teams

[pallid girder]

"sleep animation"
Apprently you didnt para the opponents first. This is literally the only reason ppl are doing sing spam.

[restive galleon]

Ohhh

Ic

So I start with sing+para the. Sing+screech then just sing?

[royal jolt]

You para first

[icy pendant]

if you're screeching, there's no reason to keep screeching past -6 after para

if you need gauge you have an option to click thunder wave on colress to recover a bit of gauge

[royal jolt]

Arc Steven would've sounded like a good choice for SS Silver

If only his debuffs didn't take years

[cloud timber]

his reactive passive is really bad too and dooms him to only having value in steel dcs for this mode

[royal jolt]

Yeah

[latent plover]

This is pretty much true for all arc suit units

Cynthia is probably still gonna be used when 3v1 ground returns and Lance would be best for both 3v3 and 3v1 Dragon

[thin wren]

blue is rarely better than Chase for special attackers

blue is also always less rng than chase

[royal jolt]

Improved by a whole 100k

[thick holly]

yay !

[fallen trail]

wishing i was a chase haver 😦

[royal jolt]

Irida SUCKS T~T

[fluid anvil]

but she cute

[thin wren]

you really like sinnoh women huh

[royal jolt]

LET'S GO

100K POSSIBLE???????

[thick stump]

if you ditch colress probably‼️‼️

[sacred badger]

yeah drop colress

just go dps mode lol

[icy pendant]

see you all are thinking too small

[royal jolt]

RAAHHH

[icy pendant]

the obvious solution is to swap colress out for elio to proc water type theme skill

[royal jolt]

121K

I'm uploading this to the spreadsheet 😈

[lethal siren]

[royal jolt]

THE DAHLIA STRAT

[cedar cloak]

[thick stump]

only 2,167,695 more points to go!

[royal jolt]

I believe in him 🙂

[fossil igloo]

Quick and easy. That's all I cared about here. Giving Champion Red his EXR would definitely improve the score.

[royal jolt]

I'm having too much fun with these dumb teams lmao

Holy crap
She can break 200k lmao

[cloud timber]

oh yeah i kinda wanted to try melony as dd

[royal jolt]

There you go, lol :)

[crude sandal]

Still surprised there's no Pal. Candice clears yet

[cloud timber]

ok my take

got a -spdef on one of the paralyzed sides so -3 after blue sync

from unfortunate strikes

cs2 melony

cs2 would actually improve gladion too but i just had mad strength on

2 icy winds at start and 1 finisher

strike exr wouldn't get her to 1m though

[fallen trail]

lmfao wtf

[cloud timber]

still 7x weaker than nc blue though a lot of that is in strike exr

but much stronger than my 1/5 ss n lmao

[fallen trail]

surely gladion has a better nuke

he needs a physical buffer but

[cloud timber]

no physical nc blue replacement

[royal jolt]

ICE GRANDMA TOO STRONG

[cloud timber]

just hilbert

sonia still exists ig

[restive galleon]

So far spam strat with silver aint working too well

The problem with silver is he takes 5 years to Setup without a buffer

[royal jolt]

Gladion won't lower Speed ~.~

[restive galleon]

I don't have gladion

I'm trying silver colress melony

[cloud timber]

sonia over colress

max debuff defense, 5 total syncs and 3 with gladion

at least no need to use potions for mga, at least in that run

but needs mpr and 60% para and speed debuff from unfortunate strike

and missed first crit

so much worse on the physical end man

when your damage dealer can't self buff

[restive galleon]

Silver runs seem to be cursed

[warped gulch]

He is still a really good enabler tho

[restive galleon]

He hasn't crit his nuke in over 20 runs

With max crit

I think I'm giving up at 500k

I need to learn and practice spamming

Still very unfamiliar with it

[lethal siren]

For next dc
Should i take ITI instead of third sync tile?

[cloud timber]

y

[lethal siren]

Well I think it's fine

[fossil igloo]

That moment when my team using Irida keeps outscoring my later runs. That includes a run using Chase!

[cloud timber]

if her b move damage was many times more powerful that it even holds a candle to her sync move damage, maybe

but i'm not getting that from looking at her kit

each sync node is pretty significant

[lethal siren]

One bmove will work anw

For sync

[fallen trail]

oh no is it fire st

i’ll have to use alt gloria

which is probably fine

?

[fossil igloo]

Imagine trying to use Serena for Fire.

[fallen trail]

her nuke isnt bad

but the conditions to set it up are p slow

and not great for this mode

[cloud timber]

anni n/nc blue/ss morty for me

possible to work off noble roar spam

but you suffer 6 animations for it

[fallen trail]

oh i forgot anni n existed 💀

is his nuke better than glorias

[cloud timber]

no idea lol

[fallen trail]

its one of those two then

[warped gulch]

Gloria still better tho

Bc -2 Rebuff

[fallen trail]

rebuff is good yea

n has better multipliers though

but also slow to set up

also his sp atk stat sucks

[fallen trail]

n’s sync does do more

my question is if gloria can get more syncs in though

[warped gulch]

Imagine not faster when you only need click 1 button

While N need like what, 6 Roars, 2 Tm and maybe 1 Dire Hit

[cloud timber]

yeah n's setup is awful and gloria deals with none of it

[royal jolt]

NOOO

[crude sandal]

Anyobe tried sync rushing at the beginning by using Chase's TM twice along with Red's?

[royal jolt]

There's gotta be a better way than using Sonia

[cloud timber]

silver doesn't need sonia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1u3KiXcif0

with 3/5 you'll have to go without evasive strike though

dc gladion only needs it because he has 0 self setup offensively

[languid heart]

I’m realizing that I need to get my sync cooldown as fast as possible to max out NC Red Nukes, and apparently paralysis rushing isn’t cutting it in these 3v3s…

It just seems like the enemies always get a move off regardless of speed drops/para in this one

Maybe I’m doing something wrong?

[royal jolt]

I just wanna have Silver be the only non-F2P friendly unit is all

I already figured you could do it with Blue :)

[cloud timber]

oh ok for f2p friendly purposes i don't believe it gets better

[royal jolt]

Oh, very true
I know Hala can get there, I think
But that's it lmao

[cloud timber]

redlax colress would be decent but that's also outside the scope of f2p

not that silver himself is within it but for f2p teammates

[royal jolt]

Yeah
I consider myself very lucky to have chosen him back when we were given the free select scout

[languid heart]

Man, almost got a 1Mil run for the first time ever, barely fell short cause Ice Zone dissipated when I did my first Red Sync

[royal jolt]

What team?

[languid heart]

NC Blue, NC Red, Irida. Pretty much the best thing I can do for Ice

[royal jolt]

Barely getting 1M? Can I assume Red isn't at 3/5?

[languid heart]

Figuring out the rotation stuff is the main issue.

[languid heart]

Nope, I’m just a local dummy. I have him 3/5

[royal jolt]

Ohhh

[languid heart]

All of them are 3/5, even. So it’s definitely a skill issue.

[royal jolt]

It sounds like you lose a lot of time to Blue's passives and Hail

[forest forge]

Ditch irida and use Melony & Lapras instead

[cloud timber]

yep

[royal jolt]

Red doesn't even need Ice Zone or Hail to reach 1M

[languid heart]

That, and I can’t seem to get the enemy side to stop using moves, even with Flinches and para.

[royal jolt]

This is definitely the way to go @languid heart

[languid heart]

I don’t quite follow. Something about Melony that makes them real good for this?

[vagrant ivy]

at CS1 hala literally has to crit every hit to get 1m

[forest forge]

This damage challenge the enemies spam more than others so you should avoid using weather

[vagrant ivy]

so I’ll cope for CS2 from cookie area probably

maybe that gives me 1 missed crit of leeway

[royal jolt]

Sing spam with Melony helps shred your countdown incredibly fast

[forest forge]

Blue and zapdos paralyzes and then raises the team’s speed and Melony spams sing to so that you can just use as many sync moves as you can fit into 3 minutes

[royal jolt]

The cycle is easy:
Para with Blue —> Sing spam the entire time

[languid heart]

…ahh, I see. Get lucky with Para and then sing.

[royal jolt]

I have a clear that uses NC Rosa instead, but the idea is the exact same

[forest forge]

Just need to paralyze 1 of the 3 targets so not even getting lucky really

Just spam sing on one that is paralyzed

[languid heart]

You would be surprised how unlucky I’ve been with Blue’s paras as of late. Sometimes I wonder if I’ve been cursed with bad luck.

[forest forge]

Use blizzard with articuno once for the rebuff and then just sync with him after that once you have support sync buffs up

[royal jolt]

Hostile Environment?

[languid heart]

And that’s even with HE2

[royal jolt]

Damn

It should happen more often than not

[forest forge]

Yea it’s only 50% chance with hostile environment

[royal jolt]

Just keep rolling

[forest forge]

But you only need to hit 1 of the 3 to make it work here

Should be somewhat reasonable to get around 2 million score with low effort

[royal jolt]

Yeah. That's an easy 2M minimum

[forest forge]

Just check the pins in this channel and on the damage sheet there are almost always videos for the most popular teams and how to use them when you go to the “current” tab

[royal jolt]

I really should submit more stuff there

[forest forge]

Some people do multiple

I usually just do 1

[delicate junco]

So if im using summer steven, what partners should i use?

Cause i imagine dc isnt kind to his multipliers

[royal jolt]

Does he even have any? All I remember is DD3 I believe

[delicate junco]

He has freeze and flinch iirc

[royal jolt]

O h

Yikes

Those are absolutely awful multipliers here

Maybe Melony and Colress? The problem is Hail's chip damage

Then again, the team would be slow as ever...

[delicate junco]

Unfortunately colress isnt in my collection

[royal jolt]

What about BP Barry?

[languid heart]

Well, got the first 1 Mil thanks to your recommendations! Here’s hoping I can eventually achieve that in other damage challenges.

[royal jolt]

ayyy! Way to go!

[vagrant ivy]

congrats

[royal jolt]

aw
someone already uploaded 1M with SS Silver. Oh well!

[languid heart]

Tbh, little surprised Melony has been giving me a bunch of big wins as of late. Def gonna look into seeing what she can do in the future.

[forest forge]

You can essentially swap articuno out for whatever sync pair covers the type of that damage challenge and use this same Strat for most of them

[royal jolt]

there's always something new!

First, it was Barry and Colress. Now, it's Melony and NC Rosa

[forest forge]

Don’t think that Steven and alolan sandshrew is good for this

[delicate junco]

Unfortunately its the only ice striker 6* i got

[fossil igloo]

Yep! EXR made a BIG difference!

[delicate junco]

This i do have actually

[forest forge]

I feel like ghetsis and kyuurem is probably better than summer steven

[royal jolt]

maybe BP Barry, Steven, and anyone who can debuff defense? You may have to slap on Snow Shelter on them, however. This if you're dead set on using Steven

[pallid girder]

I mean Steven's sync multiplier is flinch or frezze, which is big no-no in dc.

[delicate junco]

I just realized i miiiiight have another option

Probably worse tho

[royal jolt]

who is it?

Hala?

[delicate junco]

6* candice/abomasnow

I do own hala but they havent hit 6*

[royal jolt]

I think I much prefer her to Steven here

she can guarantee a crit on sync with Hail: Follow-through. That's pretty useful

[split bolt]

[royal jolt]

this has the potential to restart the wave of Halaposting

[split bolt]

would be funny

[crude sandal]

She alzo has Super Prep, but only 50/50

[pallid girder]

Depends on how much Hail will ruin your sync number, maybe non ex Hala will still be better.

[royal jolt]

if only I could invest in him, lmao

[forest forge]

Yea just tried Summer steven the unit is not viable at all

[royal jolt]

not entirely unexpected

[forest forge]

Sync makes hail and he just does zero damage anyway

[royal jolt]

his multipliers are TRASH

[forest forge]

Ghetsis and kyuurem spamming glaciate is more damage than him

[fossil igloo]

[royal jolt]

[fossil igloo]

I remember that emote existing here before.

[pallid girder]

Same reason why no HLeon clear bc his sync multipliers are doodoo.

[royal jolt]

Hala doesn't need Hail

[pallid girder]

I'm more surprise no one try hard with PCandice.

[forest forge]

I mean a majority of all the seasonal sync pairs are all kinda trash

[fossil igloo]

What's the opposite of a "need for speed"? Because that's what Hala has.

[pallid girder]

I was speaking of non-ex Hala vs og Candice.

[royal jolt]

ohh

[royal jolt]

" low ( damage ) and slow "

I think I can see Colress, Hala, and Egg Glaceon doing something

[pallid girder]

Hala hit 1M alr with BP Barry + DC Gladion.

[royal jolt]

nice!

[normal parcel]

I mean freeze and flinch multipliers are just awful everywhere, not only here

[royal jolt]

Lorelei is still sobbing

[delicate junco]

Go for slow?

[normal parcel]

Don't know if Lorelei is the worse unit in the game

[royal jolt]

he does take strolls to the laguna, after all

[royal jolt]

I still think It's tied between Marlon and Drake as well. It depends on what, however

[forest forge]

Marlon can tank like a champ with multiple endurance

Units secret good

[royal jolt]

why would you need multiple endurance? 🥹

[delicate junco]

Drake kit isnt bottom 3 bad

Like...its boring but he still is dependable

[warped gulch]

That what i did at first HSE

[forest forge]

To tank legendary gauntlet hits marlon is good

[normal parcel]

Marlon and Drake way better, at least they have utility (and I unironically used drake in HS) if anything she should be tied with wulfric

[forest forge]

Worst unit in game that isn’t an eggmon is Jessie and Arbok

She doesn’t even have a grid

[royal jolt]

if we're looking at it from a LG and HSE perspective, yeah. I understand. I use him in my gauntlet runs as well

BUT, I was kind of answering outside of those modes, heh

[delicate junco]

So candice barry and...

Redlax maybe?

[normal parcel]

At least acid is great for gauntlet

[royal jolt]

probably never will tbh
Ash still hasn't come back, so I kind of lump the three together

[delicate junco]

I have his sprint role unlocked

[warped gulch]

Relax doesn’t need move level

[royal jolt]

he can work

[warped gulch]

Unless you really want to reduce rng from para for Sing spamming

[royal jolt]

just remember they'll take chip damage from Hail

[forest forge]

Maybe Jessie and arbok > wulfric and avalugg

[normal parcel]

Wondering if using go viral Rosa, to actually sleep, may be worth, they are so fast that the stun will actually matter

[cloud timber]

i don't think candice is ever able to afford follow through btw