#Damage Challenge
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I have an idea with NC Red, Irida, and probably Barry? Very simple
Then, I'll branch to other teams
Ig we can work without irida
With chase
Red has hail on sync
Has one hail multiplier
Others are non hail multiplier
Do not use Hail
Yeah, I was thinking about the hail
Hail DOT will be way too slow on your sync rusher
I guess Red is powerful enough to get 1M without Hail or Ice Zone
Ye we can do it
Is Mina any good for the curent stage? She does have EX and has 2 instances of Pecking Order (base and sync grid).
Chase, melony
Mina is a physical attacker and can only boost her Attack via grid.
As long as she gets the right boosts, she should be fine.
I am SO cooked for triple fighting
I had hoped to get Rei from the anniversary PokéFair select scouts
BUT NO 🥹
Alas, don't have EXR on Riley.
Riley is all I have
Ex role?
Yeah
Since I have no other sprint units, I might 5/5 my Rei for fighting 3v3
Probably Red
Yep if u have
Now u r fine
Chase's circle is 1.3x for NC Red, which offset some dmg lost from zone, but without Hail he prob can let Red sync 2 more times.
Also with Irida you'll never get +10 SMUN but with Chase you can.
I think the meta for fighting 3v3 will be SSA Cynthia and NC Rosa
Especially since SSA Cyntgia has Numbing Blow
I think we should just not use all smun for the one sync
Is more SpMUN even worth the damage?
3v3 Ice battle plan:
- Blizzard once for rebuff
- ???
- Win :)
Chase has +1 SMUN from spatk all.
you just refrsh it and not waste the circle.
Yea
That's only if 3/5
He can give sp atk also if refresh so we can use red tm for a more better time
X Sp. Atk. All MPR is a waste IMO
for about 300k yeah she is
haven't seen much higher than that
Irida = Hail (presumably 2 sync less) + no sing
Chase = no hail + sing spam
We'll see which will give NC Red more dmg.
I will try to go all out in first sync
With +10 smun
Irida
Full multipliers 
Irida merely only needs to use Ice Wish before Red syncs
I think Irida is gonna come out on top here tbh
Multipliers galore and -5 Sp.Def if you only wanna use B move ( + Mind Games 9 )
How? Irida doesn't give team SMUN and Red only give himself +7 at most.
Irida gives teamwide move damage increase under hail
Can Grusha summon only Ice Zone?
Ig his first sync with all his multipliers can do 1m itself like gladion bmove 
And then bmove or Blizzard
Yes
Damn. Ofc it's the unit I don't have 😭
Time to whip out the DPS BP Candice
Oh yeah, Irida has MF passive too for Red
Nc red sync is really good with all his multipliers
I mean the one said they want to max +10 SMUN with Irida, which is impossible with Irida + Red + whatever spammer (cannot be sing spam so no NC Rosa).
Unless you're going to do regular play and use NC Blue or sth.
All this talk makes me eager to try it
Come on and reset alreadyyyyyyyy
Isn't it 3 more resets until ice 3v3?
It's next reset
I thought 3v3 is every Friday?
Well, likely yeah
The 19th at reset
I will go all out in first sync and then will see the results
It's 20th in most regions so Friday yeah. Definitely not today or next reset.
A one Red sync run, where you spend the majority of the time stacking syncs, then use Red's at the very end
+9 PMUN SEUP mega kick came in clutch
oh wait giga impact
i forgor what her moves are
Dang, couldn't get anything done with Lodge Lillie or Mina. Setup takes too long. Scored less than 350K each.
Yeah, this one is not F2P friendly, unfortunately
so fellas, can pserena get 1 mil
Yes, if you invested into her.
With pure f2p mina will do the best with Hilbert (max atk & crit) + Colress ig?
welp
the nuke on serena is hella weak
even with 7-8 syncs
and 10% gear boost
on cs2
780k
mael got over 900k with nc blue and ss lear
blue/chase would be optimal prob but his chase was only 1/5
SS Lear?
Oh huh
SS Lear has Accel

candying lear it is
actually wait hold up
blue and 1/5 chase is the one with 900k
do i need the circle mgs?
lear is a good gauge carry too yeah
circle mg would help a lot
mael got 900k nc blue/chase and 80k more with ss lear
cant get the damn grids for 2 and 3/5 to load so i can only use a pen to show what i have so far

yeah take all the gauge you can get imo
circle mg 2
i guess you don't need the mgrs
but you'll be able to find out on your own
i think hp recovery will consume a bit less time since you shouldn't be attacking with chase
over sharp entry
should be all you need though
Sad, the best I could do was SS Gladion 3/5 getting 432 thousand points
Thanks for confirming this
hmm
i tried to follow malmec
but i realized with circle extension i can prob used it the first time pserena syncs
💀
prob need to get lucky with tm refreshes too
will try later when my phone recharges tho
The best f2p dmg dealer's score I've seen is 500k with Katherine but still need premium supports (Chase + Melony).
Fairy ST is miserable
Mina would've been good if her atk stat is not like that.
💀
i was gonna candy summer marnie
till i saw people couldnt do it
tried mina, ss gladion and penny
not sure what to spam with for sync
SMarnie surely hit 1M tho.
Elio TM MPR moment
Even factoring the actual run, I triggered SS Glad's Fleur Cannon Miss way faster than I trigger Elio's TM MPR
move levels?
+3 crit Is still sure crit for regular moves, is 80% only for sync and max moves
3/5 all
fk it
candying marnie
it is what it is
idc
got tech candies to waste
can sync nuke SS Gladion get 1m with Melony and NC Blue?
SS Gladion can hit 1M but not with sync spam strat.
It's the same as 3v3 - try maximize his 2 bmoves is worthy than sync more times.
i only have 1/5 SS Wally and Penny though
You can try both and see yourself ig.
I just know his sync is way weak so spam it doesn't really get you good score especially in 3v1.
Idk about 1M, but I think I can atleast break 800k with this setup
Best I got (no miss)
Mina was lower bc I couldn't get to third sync
1/5 SS wally should be enough for 1m with 3/5 ex SS gladion+ 3/5 ex penny
Got 1.2m with 1/5 exr and +9% gears
I'm getting 5 syncs and 3-4 Moonblasts, don't know if 1M is possible with more optimization/better skill gear?
Gonna try running overpower instead of paralysis synergy and moonblast unhindered. Grid Devastation and Discourage 2 on Wally.
I think all 5-star tech ought to be able to score 1m.
one would hope
There're a lot of multipliers not prefered in dc tho. Unless they never make new techs with those multiplier it's pretty much impossible.
if you use Red and Irida then you have to use Barry as 3-rd, right ?
Barry + Irida setting 2x WZT + hail chip = slowest DC team of all time. probably barely manage 4 syncs
Moonblast unhindered is 100% useless here
opponents don't have screens
yes
one could test if chase melony is better than irida barry
one could test if ss lear is better
Unhindered is trash even with screens because you would like to crit anyway
lol
Document written by Maelmc. Make sure to check the clears doc to have clears against the different DCs, with video and grids. Introduction 1 General tips 2 Lucky skill and grids 2 Managing sync buffs 2 Playing around time 3 How to farm syncs: the spam strategy 3 Para spam 3 Barry (BP) 3 Colress ...
I think this guide is complete now, I don't think I missed any important pair or strategy
looks good
though i would definitely prefer cs2 most of the time to sp3, very rare for the score difference to be as meaningful as the cookie cost
so i'd always view it as the primary option
when i was improving my lucas score with sp3 it totaled to a 4% advantage
With a 4% advantage, my pal serena clear would get 1m
Tbf it depends on what mults the pair already has.
very useful when you need that amount but not so much of a necessity to put on everything you use
though yea the increase could vary a bunch
but it can be that much lower than 10% when you have lots of stuff like lucas
What's our next dc?
AoE Ice
Glad i candied red
Ayo??
Gave Wally HS1 and quad queued bmove Chase TM + Cotton Spore, shaved off a lot of time.
I think one sync low rolled too, so definitely possible to get 1M (hopefully)
the big struggle to get pal serena to 1m lmao
Need enemy Wally to miss a few moves
This is the first time ive seen everyone collectively struggle
fairy 1v3 is the worst
Does this mean we lack a good fairy nuke
We got SS Wally
but he's pretty much the only option
the other fairy nukes need specific teams to get it
and f2p is atrocious lol
we need spotlight ortega
with 3+/5 ss wally it's one of the better single targets, for f2p it's abysmal
and most of the rest is still struggling to hit 1m
then again mud got the mil with 6 different teams lmao
Mine is exr but 1/5
i've been pretty good with having the best options for some of the worst types in single target like with ss hilbert, ssr cynthia, and ss wally
but flying single is gonna screw me up again
It's kinda crazy to me that ss lear has the same score as this.
someone used ss lear with wally?
To be frank the above team can score 1.8 mil
Technically i did but it was with gladion
Skip got 2.2 mil with them
best possible team really
My penny's 1/5 so
Yeah SS Lear is good but not comparable to Chase Melony
I wanted to test a team but for some reason I can't log to masters rn 

What error is it showing
error 10009
error 318X2 too
(didnt have time to see the X it skipped it lol)
30811
I get a different error each time lmao
dc silver has some output, seems worth running as damage dealer, was stuck with sub 500k with bp falkner last flying single
I had this one for months each time the game updated
But clearing cashe resolved it
yeah i cleared cash and got a different error
Dont think dena wud give Dachsbun out for free
Although we did get Yamper...
lodge skyla will make flying triple pretty safe though
my freshly candied 3/5 Anni Skyla will enjoy bullying Bianca 
Finally 


Pal Serena, my most beloved!!!
I need myself a 2/5 chase asap
day xxx of regretting skipping Chase
worth it
I'd be dead in the cold ground before scouting LGPE character
faves come first for me 

~~have you got all of them to 5/5 EXR?
~~

They all are 3/5 EX R if possible
Except Pal Victor
His 3/5 is atrocious
i can't stand this Victor slander
oh victor himself is fantastic
his 2/5 is nice
just his 3/5 
Favs ofc come first that's why I was set on doing this with Palrena
I'm only missing Zerena
hi only missing Zerena
btw Trout are you that guy in my comment section
then you're not lol
there's a guy commenting on my serena clears
eww. ;<
they said they'd try her with wally, and then you did her with wally
well trout succeded and they did not 
That sounds like me and I honestly didn't remember. But if you mean the latest video with SS Lear, that's not me.
I tried
Can ex og Mina haver record a Hilbert + Colress or BP Barry run just for a reference?
I’m so close to own all Normal type smh

Is it possible to get close to 1 mil without Chase or NC Blue?
I have the main ones for this minus Gladion
My Wally is 1/5 ugh
Yeah the latest
Do you have Redlax?
Lmao
1m seems way too steep for that unfort
Redlax + Elio + 1/5 SS Wally is 600k~700k depends on your gears.
gauge should be enough for melony even
hit 695k there with 1/5 wally, nc blue and melony
could get higher, one sync failed to crit and gallade got confused
plus some decent gears
but ss wally wants confusion for multiplier right
Misclicked last move, missing sync crits
https://streamable.com/26xtuk
i'd say it's one of the lowest effort attempts
Only at 3/5. Even then someone did an no confusion run and still get 1M.
his inate just wants fairy zone, higher move levels want confusion though ye
Appreciated
i see, so its a grid thing
250k is actually good for a genpool 3*
albeit heavily invested genpool 3*
It's prob 300k if they drop def, crit all sync and Play Rough few times in the end.
Still the lowest in f2p category. Bug st magically did more thanks to fury cutter dps.
yeah if you haven't been playing since janurary 2024 for katherine mina wins here
maybe lodge lillie can get something similar
you're correct
Is it possible to 1M with Gladion without the broken fairy supports?
Yes I do
Uh? In fairy?
He's there to enhance your damage dealer/nuker in this case
I can't belive he really supports that much
Invested it's + 60% to sync and 1.1 circle multipiplier
A worse substite for wtz or even better if the nuker has wtz already
tell ya what
it'll do
1.7 million with 3/5 EX SS Wally
Considering I don't have skippingmud's invesment on him I think it's good enough
the difference two move levels can make 
so whats the consensus on ss lear for DC?
ss lear can be used as a worse booster if you dont have anything else (not even redlax), but he's never gonna be optimal outside of steel DC
same as Arc Lance honestly
i'm popping off
redlax isnt necessarily better
Lear is good for comps where the spammer uses a 2 gauge move
Like Oleana or, in this DC's case, Pal Serena or Sum Marnie
He fills a similar niche than Larry
Without Lear I wasn't getting 980k with Serena
But then again SS Wally give more 

Along with his 60% damage multiplier with pasio circle up and sync node, he has Team smart command, spdef drops, sync cd and even sync burst for more smun
I lack Wally (altough I have Volo lol)
But this is
Very interesting
Well, Penny is still better

also all of that takes a lot of time to use
Yeah he's never the best option
But he's an overall great option
So he's a good generic DC pair
Omg skippingmud puttinf that Larry to use
When you have 1/5 penny. Lear is more fun 
Larry has the gauge to sustain 2-bar spam ??
Because I told him to 
Yes
Jesus
not completely
You need either 3 very fast pair
or another pair with some kind of speed, which mud had with Bianca's Circle MG 2
SS Lear combines both 
never thought of using larry for dc 🤔
me neither
ss lear also sounds crazy, but his support is just
hooh
what is it like, +60% sync multiplier?
You can read more about them here 
Document written by Maelmc. Make sure to check the clears doc to have clears against the different DCs, with video and grids. Introduction 1 General tips 2 Lucky skill and grids 2 Managing sync buffs 2 Playing around time 3 How to farm syncs: the spam strategy 3 Para spam 4 Barry (BP) 4 Colress ...
+40%
jesus lol
He also has team smart command, so he can just give your allies +6 smun
Which is VERY good for DPS focused runs like NC Marnie or Ss gladion
I think Bianca was the real mvp there
Both
Tht vid made me realise that Bianca can debuff offenses and defenses
Tried with 1/5 Bede (exr) similar results compared to 1/5 wally (not exr)
Defense*
wondering if i can push this further
Variance issue 
wym, like damage ranges and the like?
That's rough
i reckon if he was 2/5 and my gear was a little better 1m would be doable
the gear in question
If the special attack was 20 pts more, it could have been possible
The best should be +100 atk/spatk on the main striker on top of having some useful passives.
You have only +60.
Still not 1M but not bad
People be using Wally to defeat wally
Looks like this DC is the first one I wont reach 1M 
IF ONLY I ADDED A WALLY MOVE AT THE END
Soo close nice marnie can hit 1m
Flex
With great gears yes but mine aren't that good
Its also depend on damage rols too
Luckily SS gladion can still get 1m
Don't know why sometimes SS gladion gets less smun, but I always use all the smun stuffs after the fleur cannon after 1st b move
I'm out of cookies, well still have the bronze but odds of getting SP3 are not good. So I'll be rocking CS2 for the foreseeable future.
Wait, how are you rushing sync here?
best i’ve been able to manage
sprint cake on all 3
kinda meh tbh
wonder how i can improve with wally only 1/5
What move order did you used?
More smun instead of redlax?
SMarnie can rush sync herself by bulk up
But the gauges
Sry It wanst intended. I dont have ss Wally and Summer Marnie. I was looking for another way
I'm long date player. And I do have pal Dawn, but before EXing her I want to make sure Ill be able to do a properly run
What was your strat? Pls
Afaik they use a glitch, you cant replicate that
Why i can not?
Ohhh lol!!!!!
I'm Sorry guys lol
We had It once
Just when gladion arrives
We could get 3 sync buffs in row
no infinite gem glitch?
Lol
Anyone reminds?
Move order is a bit complicated, because you have to time sing correctly
Managed to squeeze 50k extra with double b move
predictions for:
- what will be the best NC Red team? (/w Irida or not)
- how high will that best team score?
Is 3/5 EXR SS Wally or Gladion better for this DC?
wally
Anything I should look to roll for on Skill Gear?
Move order should be fleur cannon, wally tm, sing (should connect), sing, gladion tm (should MPR), relic song, Rosa sync, wally tm, sing spam, fairy wish, sync with wally, b dazzling gleam, b fleur cannon, fleur cannon, Rosa tm X2, gladion tm, fairy wish, sync with gladion, sing, x speed, x speed (or rosa tm if you got MPR), then you either use final fleur cannon, or try to sing spam till wally sync if gladion is exr and you have a bit of time left
However I had hs1 on both wally and rosa
Alternative for NC Rosa?
Gladion wants someone that gives smun.stacks
Okay, thanks!
I think, SS hay should work
However optimal team uses penny instead of NC Rosa
(I think 5/5 penny)
I don't have her (yet)
Don't have penny too
My best units that give SMUN are NC Bede and NC Blue
I guess NC blue can kinda work
Probs
Sa gladion can still get smun stacks by himself, if you are lucky with the tm mpr
But I guess you probably should focus on a single b move
next ill make glalie magically do 1 million
or froslass
it depends
Make gladion do a million, but the bad one
Watch as this is the best 3v3 ice team
why no twofer oleana?
wastes time
Irida is unironically worse than egg Glaceon here. Hail is bad
Oh yeah I guess that works
I don't have him ex, so it would be harder to believe 
I used all the tickets today for og and sygna suit lear
Ye plus master passive
its 3v3 ice
you wont be using glaceon's single target buddy move
it takes like 10 seconds for the whole animation
way too long
animation, stat drops, and then move gauge acceleration
you can only try and use Iridas B-move at the very end after last sync as a last finisher
assuming you are even using Irida
you would just use Articuno's buddy move instead
glaceon is just setting weather
you can maybe fit in 1-2 icy wind for special defense drops at the start
but the buddy move is way too long pretty sure
oh yeah, Irida probably doesnt even use her TM .. so she wont be buffed up anyway
holy a 5/5 lyra a jigglypuff owner
Completely accidental
I was pulling for Summer Gloria
But yeah Nemona is doing like 500k for me
And Gladion is even worse without Penny/Wally
Oh hey, we're about to break the 100k messages mark
Is 2/5 Marnie worth using or no?
prob not if you have to spend candy
best ive managed w/ 1/5
slight improvement but i think this is her limit
3M for sure, he should reach that with just tech glaceon and no hails
So w irida will be much more, probably top targeting 4M
submit your video please haha
edited image
idk why anyone encourages it
saying "haha it's a joke" hardly makes it above outright cheating
deliberately trying to mislead at least some people
"it's just a prank bro"
at least nobody else does it
I will go all out on red's first sync and then will see the results lol
Is it possible to score 1 mil with ss gladion w/o wally or penny
I think so
Yes, do you have egg silveon?
Is magearna my best option? Please ping me
I also have stuff like red lax and champion blue
Bro
Yes?
I have ss hau, i imagine he's better
Please ping me with help. I check the guide and wally isn't high enough
If you can do 3M back in 3v3, 1M in 3v1 is possible.
Just use the same strategy and try max out Gladion's 2 bmoves.
I wonder would gladion, wally, red lax work?
I only got 1.4 mil in 3v3
Ss glad, nc blue and melony
That's a bad strategy for Gladion.
SS Gladion much prefer as many SMUN as possible on both his bmove even if it takes time to setup instead of sync rush.
enough for this
I think that's why he asked what to do without penny and ss wally
yea 💀
I mean ss hau is kind of a budget ss wally
Just without the nuke
Still can set zone tho
Will this work in my situation?
I'm very stuck and unsure because I barely got 1 million with those at triple
no idea tbh, also didn't catch that your gladion was 2/5
better investment would be candying ss wally since he's optimal here
Maybe SS Glad + SS Hau + any support spammer (BP Barry or even Aaron)?
I'm surprisingly still at rank 24
and won't rely on specialized supports like penny
which you'd also want at a high level to do anything
How high for wally?
3/5 is good
Oh so he just needs one candy
yeah
i got 1.8m with 3/5 ss wally with nc blue/melony but it's definitely capable of pushing past 2m
Can you post grids?
I've got 1.8M with SS Wally at 5/5 with Chase and Melony
But with only CS2 and my Wally not having skill gear effects and him only having stats
I'm guessing blue and melody sync first, then wally?
yep
How should I grid gladion and wally? I have glad +6
By the way still hoping someone can offer me advice here
you can take runs with either confusion or no confusion, both can work and i did 1.8m with no confusion as well
but interference sync will help if you do roll it and will peak higher
and yea you could push ss wally without 3/5 close-ish to 1m but it'll be far more of a struggle and you won't cross the line probably
his 3/5 tiles are useful in every mode too especially for fairy type stuff
hardly replaceable
my first attempt was able to cross 1.4m
What inflicts confusion?
wally does, innate gobsmack 4 is a 50% chance
and you'll be using his b move once to apply rebuff
so that will roll a coin flip
Ah that makes sense
I definitely screwed up something, I got 800k first run
Do I need paralysis from blue and what else should he do?
I know melody does nothing beyond sync and sing
Err without para sing spam will be not that quick.
That's like 101 of sing spam strat.
So basically do discharge, and if no paralysis just reset?
yea
0:00 - 2,034,848 with SS Wally, SS Gladion, and Penny - https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011901080100&s0=3&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13016403&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFERQVFxgaGyUnKSwt&v1=012801028202&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=15010301&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFCAkKDB4pKy8yMzQ&v2=029300070000&s2=5&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=4444&x2=true&g2...
I did It. After a whole day 
Thank you!
Definitely could likely have been higher I feel
But it did the trick, it's higher than what I got for triple fairy
Upcoming triple ice should be interesting.
i think triple ice would prefer 1/5 nc red over hala
Yeah and he applies ice rebuff and endless buddy
thank you for the idea! Gonna try 
You dont want to touch his B Move that much tho
Idea is Blizzard->Tm and Sync spamming
yea
Maybe even Blizzard in the end bc it hit 3 opponents so might actually outdmg bmove on 1 opponent.
Is this the move if I am not using Hail
yeah blizzard should be stronger
Actually for the 1st S Move Hail, that's post sync right
if damage has the same aoe penalty as secondary effects it'd halve for aoe after multiplying by 3
and his b move isn't too much stronger than blizzard
seems mainly there for the guaranteed freeze
which won't come into play
Yeah honestly I cant get past 500k with ss gladion
Even with ss hau
Not having wally hurts
i believe it would be yea
I heard it was possible
but idk
I saw a team with it when you look for suggestions
Thanks
A shame I don't have Irida
I even have WW3 for him
Irida might not be the play tbh.
Hail is just bad in dc and you can't compress sing spam with her.
great combo for all the other modes but hail is bad enough that she's questionable here yeah
This'll have to do
Almost there but well 
Wow, I didn't think they'd be able to top their worst DC typing but here we are
rock bottom yes
Just don't have the necessary exclusive units dupes to get anywhere close to even 500k
Imo SMarnie even at 1/5 shouldn't be this low. You didn't max her innate right?
What is considered max?
Finally I managed to do spirit break se+ plus another spirit break at the end
Not an expert of number but ex tech at 1/5 with good innate just shouldn't do this low imo.
How many buffs did you have on Marnie whenever she sync? Exactly 9 (6 atk + 3 crit) is too low when her innate is Rising Tide.
I had like 3 stats at +6 and probably got like 3 syncs out of her
bulk up is a spammable move on its own so you can use it when you have excess gauge to speed things up a little
for how much setup she needs 5 syncs with colress does sound standard
but ig you only reached 4
3 is average honestly
I like this score but it would be better if I could get a 4th sync in
could run sonia + melony
oh yeah you can't use her spam after her tm anyway bc gradual healing
Spam with who?
i'm trying bp barry + dc gladion
"EGG GLADION"
What do you think about Grusha + BP Barry?

grusha sounds like a direct upgrade to dc gladion
But compared to glaceon, he is way slower
Bc tm and Def/SpDef buff after that
Ofc Supp EX, but this isn’t Sing spam so idk if 2 Supp is good tho
But that means you can use Colress for Aoe Def Debuff
aaron enabling
Then maybe Redlax or detective Steven instead of Grusha?
Reduces physical attack move damage taken by allies when the zone is an Ice Zone. Quickly charges the move gauge when the zone is an Ice Zone.
Raises the chance of inflicting status conditions—as well as inflicting the flinching, confused, or trapped condition—with the additional effects of the user's moves.
The user's stats cannot be lowered.
Ice |
Paldea |
Gym Leader
295 speed
Is gladion the second best or there's someone else that scored more (besides wally)?
Yeah, gauge found dead with Aaron
rip
The problem is that team doesn’t have much speed increases
Grusha can +1 speed with his Tm, has speed increases when Ice Zone is up
But that mean you’ll stuck with +1 speed until 2nd Tm
So idk if Catalyst from Aaron can save this team gauge
How about dc Gladion?
Will DC Gladion need EX?
He is Field so ofc he need it
Yes 100%
For Aaron ?
His Tm gives +2 Def/SpDef to an ally
But it also gives GH
So you must use at least 5 Def Order
Na Aaron tm in unusable in dc
I talked about DC Gladion’s Tm
It has GH right
Which is useless too
Is also unusable if the target is Aaron
Nope, for BP Barry or so.
Then it should work
Yes
It gives both Def/SpDef and GH to an ally
How about Kabu for Aaron?
Why tho
Kabu doesn't give zone and burns
Grushia + Aaron sounds cool. I'll try that with NC Red and Hala.
Maybe ft1 Aaron?
Just Grusha can gives +1 speed all by Tm
Roll some speed buff on himself.
But not proccing as much as being annoying.
And that the thing gives both SpDef/Def, Zone
So Aaron need 3 Def Order
And Hala speed is one of the worst one






Type:
Weak: 
HP: 737
ATK: 343 | DEF: 202
SPA: 136 | SPD: 186
SPE: 126
General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Alola)
None
Ice Hammer / Sync Nuke Minimal (2/5)
+ Full Boost (3/5)
+ Super Preparation (3/5)
Hail Ice Hammer (3/5)
+ Sync Nuke
Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Weathered Warrior 3
Aaron isn't worth if you can't buff some defenses
Need to burn more tm inbetween ig.
You'd +30 speed with skill gear on your entire team
Not sure if that's enough
You need to have it first tho
What's the team with Hala?
So you’ll need Ice + Sinnoh or E4 or Bug
With 30 speed
Which not much people reroll for it
Grusha and Aaron
So you just need E4 theme with +30 speed
E4 and Gym Leader lol
Grusha is okay at 1/5 right?
But still, that team speed is awful
You cant use Grusha tm that early
So need to use Def order at least 5 times
Does Aaron have Catalyst gridded?
Yes
In reality maybe BP Barry + EGG Glaceon / DC Gladion could score as high.
grusha would really want speedy entry 2
grusha gets 3 ice zones/uses of tm with trainer sync redemption and that first use is +3/+3
the other two can last the fight but you can't use the second one early
It's not tm mpr. It's only +1 post first sync.
But 3 Ice Zone animation is waste too much time
if it was mpr it'd be much faster
It will also have the stat boosts too
Also, BP Barry or Aaron for sync spamming with NC Red and Irida?
NC Red is definitely the best
weathwr sync or no
Either way
We can't be sure yet but I assume no hail would score higher.
Both can hit 1M tho.
More than
thats all i needed to hear
NC Red can definitely score more than 1M even without zone or hail
I don’t think irida is a play for nc blue
You lossing sync from sup and hail slow it down alot
Its like 2 sync -
Nc blue and melony look the best
Got +2 Evasion and got 1 miss and 2 paras out of it
You're not even gonna use Irida with NC Blue anyways
You'd use with either BP Barry or Aaron
I just assumed he meant NC Red
I'll stan for Chase until I'm proven wrong!
Still is too slow
Hail is like sand worst idea
Yes just para one and do every other thing like normal sing spam.
Okay. Do people pay attention to the amount of times he doesn't dodge?
Well some ppl said even without godly dodge it's not that hard to reach the same number as using NC Blue in general.
Ah okay
Am I the only one to feel like Hoopa could be insane for 1v3 dc?
The last time I saw he reached 1.6m
Now he deals aoe dmg
And has more stats
That... should net around 5m right
Oh mb I wrote 1v3 I meant 3v3
Ye lol was about to say
But regardless, feels solid to me
But also depends. 3v3 is overall faster
I still think you can get in 6 syncs or so
3m is very easy to reach at least
True
He'll easily outclass SS Lusa's best score for sure.
Does SS Lusa have sync multipliers
EXR Lear will beat both LuSSa and SS Steven in 3v3 easily
Can't wait for Psychic 3v3 to come back
I barely made it to 1m with SS Steven but tbf that's the time we were still figuring stuff out
4 sync + 25 nodes and 3 multipliers, but one is pretty lame, cuz its based on target's accuracy
ss lana only has two, but one of them is on her 5/5 grid
Hmmm wondering how high would a sync spam Lusamine will reach
BP Barry should be better than 5 defense order
3/5 Deoxys should still nuke harder than 3/5 tapu Lele even without psychic terrain
Time for articuno tomorrow finally
SS N for single ice?
No need to lower too much sp atk
Just one
Is it better to use a 1/5 SS Wally for this DC or a 3/5 SS Gladion?
I guess the optimal should be SS Silver, bit SS N probably is second best
I don't have silver
NC red will probably be the best in 3v1 Ice too kek
Probably will be part of the equation, but I don't think it will be the main damage dealer
Ofc it will perform pretty good if you lack the optimal damage dealer
SS Silver and SS Should perform better as damage dealers
I have high hope for SS Silver bc his support exr.
I think that with modern starts, Deoxys may be the best unit for 3v3 psychic
Deoxy's issue is the lack of sync multiplier and regular move being st dmg compared to SS Lusa's regualr being MT.
I mean if you sync spam, regular move isn't an issue
not a chance IMO, EXR Lear has a much stronger sync nuke
even LuSSamine should be comparable or better
SS steven sync is somewhat mid, pretty comparable to Ashes from what I remember (which was considered on the weaker side), except he doesnt have nc blue or the 1Mil B-move
so take Ashes 4+ Mil result and then reduce it to account for lack of NC Blue and then also -1 Mil for lack of B-move
It is issue when back then SSLusa is not actually doing sync spam but most like SS Gladion strat.
then only thing Deoxys has over Ash is support EXR
even without sync spam I think LuSSa (+Lana) reached ~3,7-3.8M and I dont see how Steven can get those numbers. His math doesnt add up
True, Lear nukes harder, forgot it got exr
Yep. I need Psychic 3v3 to come back for that reason
For pure sync spam Deoxys should be second over exr Lear I guess
Base tech + strike combo is too strong for AOE DC
Nc red show soon😆
Deoxy 's sync is more like a regular striker tho.
Good i have him 10E
But I guess luSSa DPS was too good
Only one innate multiplier so he's the same as striker with only 1 multiplier in grid.
I barely made SS Steven reach 1m in 3v3 but of course the strat is not there yet
I mean if you don't have Lear, or LuSSa, Steven should still be your best bet
Deoxy's speed form is a waste potential bc it doesn't use calm mind there.
I think Lear EXR > LuSSa > SS Steven yes
Jacq had 3.,4M+ in 3v1, but idk how much he will have in 3v3
Normal form is also a waste because it summons psychic terrain,
Imagine speed form Deoxy with 1 bar calm mind spam.
Plus more damage and sup sync buff
Oh the actual comp was built for Sing Spam but I was not aware of it yet 
I mean luSSa sync is way weaker than Lear one
But she have super up next he not
Doesn't she have it only for 1st sync
I think only first yes
However Deoxy back then didn't really use full spam.
And I think seun luSSa sync is still weaker than Lear not seun
Is on entry
After looking a bit more at it, Egg glaceon has a shot at being a better partner to Red than Irida 
Sure there's the hail multiplier, but you can just not pick it and pick TM and Protect SMUN +2. That'll boost his innate mult and his final blizzard, on top of saving time from hail chips... That or Grusha. If you can reach 7 syncs, Grusha is better than Glaceon for the double support sync, but if you have less than 7 then Glaceon is good because he has a better gauge
Tm doesn't give seun
Deoxy can use Psychic terrain + seun support and spam himself.
Ig with this new strat and good player I think he might break 3M.
Irida lowers spe def
Only on 1 opponent, it isnt that significant
Maybe psychic DC was like fairy, sync wasn't the key
If u want to use glaceon
Then why not irida
You are not using sync rusher in both way
and hail fucking sucks, even with the mult
You are
You're using Oleana
At least Irida protects your team from hail
don't think you can hit more than 5 syncs with irida (in multi, at least)
Also theme skill stat boosts and extra MF passive
Irida vs Egg glaceon vs Grusha
No one cares about MF passives, it's for 1, maybe 2, moves at the end of the clear
It's far from being important
Im not a fun off ice team this way nc blue melony still best
For red
Just barry is too slow
Set zone is soo time consume
Forgot screenshots oops
I mean chase exists too
Also, what's the TM of the enemy?
NC red is Kanto, so circle is more effective
Ye
Too bad there's no Kanto sing spammer
You can work without hail too
He has enough multipliers
Erika Stun Spore spam 
Chasw helps setting up smun
Meh, isnt circle just 1.3
Compared to zone 1.5
2 with zone and hail
Stop with hail, Irida sucks lol
Hail is such a time waste
Better than egg glaceon
For DC she's quite bad
For nc red
She is not lol
Yeah im saying for dc
Maybe for 3v1 she's great
You don't grid Arctic Arrival anyways
vs silver (ice weak 3v3) has x spe all
I knew it
Heh
except uh
it's saying single here
but it's clearly triple on the image schedule
what am i missing
That's X speed
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Who is the other Ice weak opponent
blue, it also says single
so typo
Yeah might be an error in the pastebin
For single it's blue
i could have just scrolled down a bit and saw the other two trainers lol
Cool. We highly depend on rng to spamming sync
Also check your gears
Gonna show mine
Yeah seems like I need extra para luck because my last attempt could only reach 8 sync buffs + 1 moonblast
My skill gear is just extra 90 SpAtk sadly
It seems your gears are ok
Also we need most crit sync as possible
Oooh 100 SpAtk
okay gonna roll for that, besides I just uncapped Pal Serena to 150
Thanks for sharing like always 
Or you can look into sync effect multipliers
Like critastrophe, type sync moves or wtz buff sync move%
With those you can get better results even with not flawless stat gear
pink feathers are the ideal ones for dc, i personally haven't used much yet though
very specific to dc
but i know that dc is the entire purpose for many people using skill gear
Ok what
3/5 Chase carry
Also 4/5 Serena helps lol
I forgot, I used Super powered 3 as lucky skill
Just the extra power from being 4/5
Is +10 Blizzard powerful or +10 bmove
how high is 83 def and spdef in npc terms
I wanna get a scale of things outside of DC
Blizzard
Standard
Did It again. 1 refresh to sp Atk item Chase. And refresh red's trainer tm to every sync
I just tried again and I averaged like 880k+, with max 950k. I wonder where I did wrong
oh I saw no speed debuffs ok then 
You're right, missing one sync crit 
Ok
Just give +10smun to red
Then use atk move at the very last
5/5?
Yeap like most my units
i'mma gonna do this.
Ig you should take Blizzard coz +10 Blizzard better ig
Protect take time





