#Damage Challenge

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lethal siren
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Gives a mf passive

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Kanto analysis

royal jolt
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I have an idea with NC Red, Irida, and probably Barry? Very simple

Then, I'll branch to other teams

lethal siren
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Ig we can work without irida

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With chase

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Red has hail on sync

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Has one hail multiplier
Others are non hail multiplier

copper otter
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Do not use Hail

royal jolt
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Yeah, I was thinking about the hail

copper otter
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Hail DOT will be way too slow on your sync rusher

lethal siren
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Ye

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Ig we can work without irida

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Still irida is good 3)5

royal jolt
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I guess Red is powerful enough to get 1M without Hail or Ice Zone

lethal siren
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Ye we can do it

woven fjord
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Is Mina any good for the curent stage? She does have EX and has 2 instances of Pecking Order (base and sync grid).

lethal siren
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Chase, melony

fossil igloo
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Mina is a physical attacker and can only boost her Attack via grid.

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As long as she gets the right boosts, she should be fine.

royal jolt
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I am SO cooked for triple fighting

lethal siren
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Riley

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Is good F2p option

royal jolt
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I had hoped to get Rei from the anniversary PokéFair select scouts

BUT NO 🥹

lethal siren
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Full 5/5 free

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And some good roles

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Tiles**

woven fjord
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Alas, don't have EXR on Riley.

lethal siren
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Ye that's not F2p

royal jolt
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Riley is all I have

lethal siren
royal jolt
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Yeah

lethal siren
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Then u r good

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Melony is free for spam

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Just one more character

crude sandal
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Since I have no other sprint units, I might 5/5 my Rei for fighting 3v3

royal jolt
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Probably Red

lethal siren
pallid girder
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Chase's circle is 1.3x for NC Red, which offset some dmg lost from zone, but without Hail he prob can let Red sync 2 more times.

lethal siren
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Just try to get paralyze

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From body slam WEEZing

royal jolt
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Not the 1/5 Red para gamble 😭

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( I am cooked )

pallid girder
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Also with Irida you'll never get +10 SMUN but with Chase you can.

crude sandal
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I think the meta for fighting 3v3 will be SSA Cynthia and NC Rosa

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Especially since SSA Cyntgia has Numbing Blow

lethal siren
crude sandal
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Is more SpMUN even worth the damage?

lethal siren
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Yes

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You are not using irida
So ig it is?

crude sandal
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I am using her

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My team is BP Barry/NC Red/Irida

royal jolt
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3v3 Ice battle plan:

  1. Blizzard once for rebuff
  2. ???
  3. Win :)
pallid girder
lethal siren
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Yea

lethal siren
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He can give sp atk also if refresh so we can use red tm for a more better time

crude sandal
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X Sp. Atk. All MPR is a waste IMO

cloud timber
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haven't seen much higher than that

pallid girder
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Irida = Hail (presumably 2 sync less) + no sing
Chase = no hail + sing spam
We'll see which will give NC Red more dmg.

lethal siren
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I will try to go all out in first sync
With +10 smun
Irida
Full multipliers TabithaHehe

crude sandal
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Irida merely only needs to use Ice Wish before Red syncs

royal jolt
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I think Irida is gonna come out on top here tbh
Multipliers galore and -5 Sp.Def if you only wanna use B move ( + Mind Games 9 )

pallid girder
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How? Irida doesn't give team SMUN and Red only give himself +7 at most.

crude sandal
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Irida gives teamwide move damage increase under hail

royal jolt
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Can Grusha summon only Ice Zone?

lethal siren
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Ig his first sync with all his multipliers can do 1m itself like gladion bmove TabithaHehe

crude sandal
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And she also gives +54 Sp. Atk. to herself and Red

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Because of theme skills

lethal siren
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And then bmove or Blizzard

crude sandal
lethal siren
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Lemme cope

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And try to see the results

royal jolt
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Time to whip out the DPS BP Candice

crude sandal
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Oh yeah, Irida has MF passive too for Red

lethal siren
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Nc red sync is really good with all his multipliers

pallid girder
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I mean the one said they want to max +10 SMUN with Irida, which is impossible with Irida + Red + whatever spammer (cannot be sing spam so no NC Rosa).
Unless you're going to do regular play and use NC Blue or sth.

royal jolt
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All this talk makes me eager to try it

Come on and reset alreadyyyyyyyy

crude sandal
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Isn't it 3 more resets until ice 3v3?

royal jolt
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It's next reset

crude sandal
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I thought 3v3 is every Friday?

royal jolt
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Well, likely yeah
The 19th at reset

lethal siren
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I will go all out in first sync and then will see the results

pallid girder
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It's 20th in most regions so Friday yeah. Definitely not today or next reset.

royal jolt
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A one Red sync run, where you spend the majority of the time stacking syncs, then use Red's at the very end

toxic sleet
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+9 PMUN SEUP mega kick came in clutch

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oh wait giga impact

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i forgor what her moves are

woven fjord
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Dang, couldn't get anything done with Lodge Lillie or Mina. Setup takes too long. Scored less than 350K each.

royal jolt
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Yeah, this one is not F2P friendly, unfortunately

rose basalt
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so fellas, can pserena get 1 mil

woven fjord
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Yes, if you invested into her.

rose basalt
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5/5

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💪

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this good?

pallid girder
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With pure f2p mina will do the best with Hilbert (max atk & crit) + Colress ig?

rose basalt
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welp

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the nuke on serena is hella weak

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even with 7-8 syncs

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and 10% gear boost

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on cs2

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780k

cloud timber
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mael got over 900k with nc blue and ss lear

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blue/chase would be optimal prob but his chase was only 1/5

rose basalt
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i have 3/5 chase

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how would you be spamming to get to sync tho

long silo
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SS Lear?

cloud timber
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she has stun spore

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ss lear has circle and debuffs ig

long silo
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Oh huh

rose basalt
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so spam stun spore with serena?

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wouldnt that drain the gauge pretty quickly tho

long silo
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SS Lear has Accel

rose basalt
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candying lear it is

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actually wait hold up

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blue and 1/5 chase is the one with 900k

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do i need the circle mgs?

cloud timber
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lear is a good gauge carry too yeah

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circle mg would help a lot

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mael got 900k nc blue/chase and 80k more with ss lear

rose basalt
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cant get the damn grids for 2 and 3/5 to load so i can only use a pen to show what i have so far

cloud timber
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yeah take all the gauge you can get imo

rose basalt
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wym

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all the gauge boosters?

cloud timber
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circle mg 2

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i guess you don't need the mgrs

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but you'll be able to find out on your own

rose basalt
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i went with this

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got like 7 energy left

cloud timber
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i think hp recovery will consume a bit less time since you shouldn't be attacking with chase

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over sharp entry

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should be all you need though

bitter token
rose basalt
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hmm

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i tried to follow malmec

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but i realized with circle extension i can prob used it the first time pserena syncs

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💀

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prob need to get lucky with tm refreshes too

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will try later when my phone recharges tho

pallid girder
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The best f2p dmg dealer's score I've seen is 500k with Katherine but still need premium supports (Chase + Melony).

long silo
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Fairy ST is miserable

rose basalt
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seems like you need ss wally

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or bust

pallid girder
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Mina would've been good if her atk stat is not like that.

rose basalt
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💀

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i was gonna candy summer marnie

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till i saw people couldnt do it

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tried mina, ss gladion and penny

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not sure what to spam with for sync

pallid girder
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SMarnie surely hit 1M tho.

rose basalt
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?

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someone did?

cloud timber
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don't think i caught any

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not sure

rose basalt
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oh sht someone did

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in the pending submission

long silo
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Oh huh the next DCs would be huge

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AoE Ice, ST Fire, AoE Fighting

rose basalt
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bro, 20% chase tm mpr

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more like 0%

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💀

long silo
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Elio TM MPR moment

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Even factoring the actual run, I triggered SS Glad's Fleur Cannon Miss way faster than I trigger Elio's TM MPR

brisk shale
normal parcel
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+3 crit Is still sure crit for regular moves, is 80% only for sync and max moves

rose basalt
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fk it

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candying marnie

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it is what it is

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idc

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got tech candies to waste

brisk shale
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idk

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i have the levels to try it, give me a bit

sacred flower
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can sync nuke SS Gladion get 1m with Melony and NC Blue?

pallid girder
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SS Gladion can hit 1M but not with sync spam strat.
It's the same as 3v3 - try maximize his 2 bmoves is worthy than sync more times.

sacred flower
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i only have 1/5 SS Wally and Penny though

pallid girder
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You can try both and see yourself ig.

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I just know his sync is way weak so spam it doesn't really get you good score especially in 3v1.

visual mantle
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Idk about 1M, but I think I can atleast break 800k with this setup

brisk shale
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Mina was lower bc I couldn't get to third sync

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1/5 SS wally should be enough for 1m with 3/5 ex SS gladion+ 3/5 ex penny

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Got 1.2m with 1/5 exr and +9% gears

visual mantle
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I'm getting 5 syncs and 3-4 Moonblasts, don't know if 1M is possible with more optimization/better skill gear?

visual mantle
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Gonna try running overpower instead of paralysis synergy and moonblast unhindered. Grid Devastation and Discourage 2 on Wally.

devout pelican
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I think all 5-star tech ought to be able to score 1m.

cloud timber
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one would hope

pallid girder
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There're a lot of multipliers not prefered in dc tho. Unless they never make new techs with those multiplier it's pretty much impossible.

fluid anvil
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if you use Red and Irida then you have to use Barry as 3-rd, right ?
Barry + Irida setting 2x WZT + hail chip = slowest DC team of all time. probably barely manage 4 syncs

vernal condor
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opponents don't have screens

vernal condor
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one could test if chase melony is better than irida barry

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one could test if ss lear is better

slender venture
visual mantle
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I've had it gridded for the longest time smhClayClown

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basically since I got Pal Serena

vernal condor
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lol

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I think this guide is complete now, I don't think I missed any important pair or strategy

cloud timber
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looks good

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though i would definitely prefer cs2 most of the time to sp3, very rare for the score difference to be as meaningful as the cookie cost

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so i'd always view it as the primary option

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when i was improving my lucas score with sp3 it totaled to a 4% advantage

vernal condor
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With a 4% advantage, my pal serena clear would get 1m

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Tbf it depends on what mults the pair already has.

cloud timber
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very useful when you need that amount but not so much of a necessity to put on everything you use

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though yea the increase could vary a bunch

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but it can be that much lower than 10% when you have lots of stuff like lucas

jaunty stratus
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What's our next dc?

long silo
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AoE Ice

jaunty stratus
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Glad i candied red

visual mantle
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One more Moonblast and I would have had it

vernal condor
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Ayo??

visual mantle
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Gave Wally HS1 and quad queued bmove Chase TM + Cotton Spore, shaved off a lot of time.

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I think one sync low rolled too, so definitely possible to get 1M (hopefully)

vernal condor
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the big struggle to get pal serena to 1m lmao

visual mantle
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Need enemy Wally to miss a few moves

vapid kernel
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This is the first time ive seen everyone collectively struggle

vernal condor
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fairy 1v3 is the worst

jaunty stratus
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Does this mean we lack a good fairy nuke

vernal condor
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We got SS Wally

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but he's pretty much the only option

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the other fairy nukes need specific teams to get it

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and f2p is atrocious lol

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we need spotlight ortega

cloud timber
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with 3+/5 ss wally it's one of the better single targets, for f2p it's abysmal

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and most of the rest is still struggling to hit 1m

vernal condor
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then again mud got the mil with 6 different teams lmao

lethal siren
jaunty stratus
cloud timber
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i've been pretty good with having the best options for some of the worst types in single target like with ss hilbert, ssr cynthia, and ss wally

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but flying single is gonna screw me up again

vernal condor
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alt gloria BarryPogChamp

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for f2p, darach prob

copper otter
# lethal siren

It's kinda crazy to me that ss lear has the same score as this.

vernal condor
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someone used ss lear with wally?

copper otter
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I did

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Oh wait

slender venture
copper otter
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Technically i did but it was with gladion

slender venture
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Skip got 2.2 mil with them

cloud timber
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best possible team really

copper otter
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My penny's 1/5 so

slender venture
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Yeah SS Lear is good but not comparable to Chase Melony

vernal condor
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I wanted to test a team but for some reason I can't log to masters rn LarryDead

warped gulch
vernal condor
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real

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the game suggested me to clear cache but it didnt help

slender venture
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What error is it showing

vernal condor
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so not only i cant play but ill have to download everything again when i can

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uuh

cloud timber
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yeah i had to do that last gauntlet

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trash game tbh

vernal condor
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error 10009

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error 318X2 too PetrelWTF (didnt have time to see the X it skipped it lol)

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30811

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I get a different error each time lmao

cloud timber
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dc silver has some output, seems worth running as damage dealer, was stuck with sub 500k with bp falkner last flying single

slender venture
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But clearing cashe resolved it

vernal condor
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yeah i cleared cash and got a different error

vapid kernel
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Although we did get Yamper...

cloud timber
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lodge skyla will make flying triple pretty safe though

vernal condor
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definitely

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but i'll just go zoom and then go brr

rain copper
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my freshly candied 3/5 Anni Skyla will enjoy bullying Bianca LucianScheme

visual mantle
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Finally KukuiWOO

vernal condor
rain copper
visual mantle
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Pal Serena, my most beloved!!!

vernal condor
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I need myself a 2/5 chase asap

rain copper
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day xxx of regretting skipping Chase

vernal condor
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lol

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i got him from the select for a reason

visual mantle
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Same picked him up from current selects

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And candied to 3/5

vernal condor
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worth it

misty forge
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I'd be dead in the cold ground before scouting LGPE character

rain copper
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faves come first for me SerenaSip

misty forge
vernal condor
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same, and i already have all normal and serena GladionSip

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inb4 serena furfrou in october

rain copper
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~~have you got all of them to 5/5 EXR? TabithaHehe ~~

vernal condor
rain copper
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smh fake fan

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/s

vernal condor
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They all are 3/5 EX R if possible
Except Pal Victor
His 3/5 is atrocious

rain copper
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i can't stand this Victor slander

vernal condor
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oh victor himself is fantastic
his 2/5 is nice
just his 3/5 GretaCringe

visual mantle
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Favs ofc come first that's why I was set on doing this with Palrena

rain copper
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hi only missing Zerena

vernal condor
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btw Trout are you that guy in my comment section

visual mantle
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Which guy lmao?

vernal condor
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there's a guy commenting on my serena clears

sacred badger
vernal condor
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they said they'd try her with wally, and then you did her with wally

sacred badger
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then?

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o.o

vernal condor
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well trout succeded and they did not MinaBreak

visual mantle
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That sounds like me and I honestly didn't remember. But if you mean the latest video with SS Lear, that's not me.

real wind
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I triedMinaSmile

pallid girder
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Can ex og Mina haver record a Hilbert + Colress or BP Barry run just for a reference?

vagrant ivy
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i got what 378k with katherine with bp barry melony?

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but missed the last crit

warped gulch
vagrant ivy
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so low 400k is possible with good katherine luck

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meaning shes still best F2P WEEZing

warped gulch
vagrant ivy
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im jealous...

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0 limited normal type units gaming

lapis yarrow
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Is it possible to get close to 1 mil without Chase or NC Blue?

warped gulch
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With who tho

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Really depends on your dmg dealer

lapis yarrow
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I have the main ones for this minus Gladion

warped gulch
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3/5 SS Wally ?

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You should be good tho

lapis yarrow
lapis yarrow
warped gulch
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Uhhhh

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Idk sadly

pallid girder
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Do you have Redlax?

vernal condor
cloud timber
pallid girder
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Redlax + Elio + 1/5 SS Wally is 600k~700k depends on your gears.

cloud timber
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gauge should be enough for melony even

rare apex
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hit 695k there with 1/5 wally, nc blue and melony

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could get higher, one sync failed to crit and gallade got confused

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plus some decent gears

vagrant ivy
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but ss wally wants confusion for multiplier right

spiral halo
pallid girder
rare apex
vagrant ivy
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i see, so its a grid thing

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250k is actually good for a genpool 3*

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albeit heavily invested genpool 3*

pallid girder
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It's prob 300k if they drop def, crit all sync and Play Rough few times in the end.

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Still the lowest in f2p category. Bug st magically did more thanks to fury cutter dps.

vagrant ivy
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yeah if you haven't been playing since janurary 2024 for katherine mina wins here

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maybe lodge lillie can get something similar

unborn vault
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Is it possible to 1M with Gladion without the broken fairy supports?

copper otter
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Yes

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You can use the Broken SS Lear

lapis yarrow
unborn vault
visual mantle
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He's there to enhance your damage dealer/nuker in this case

unborn vault
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I can't belive he really supports that much

slender venture
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Invested it's + 60% to sync and 1.1 circle multipiplier

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A worse substite for wtz or even better if the nuker has wtz already

rare apex
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tell ya what

it'll do

latent plover
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1.7 million with 3/5 EX SS Wally

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Considering I don't have skippingmud's invesment on him I think it's good enough

rare apex
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the difference two move levels can make LarryDead

normal parcel
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Don't know if I can optimize, but I'm fine with 1.1m I guess

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Wally isn't even exr

valid radish
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so whats the consensus on ss lear for DC?

vernal condor
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He's niche tbf

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no supp ex and no way to enable spam is kinda sad

fluid anvil
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ss lear can be used as a worse booster if you dont have anything else (not even redlax), but he's never gonna be optimal outside of steel DC
same as Arc Lance honestly

rare apex
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i'm popping off

vernal condor
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Lear is good for comps where the spammer uses a 2 gauge move

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Like Oleana or, in this DC's case, Pal Serena or Sum Marnie

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He fills a similar niche than Larry

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Without Lear I wasn't getting 980k with Serena
But then again SS Wally give more LarryDead

copper otter
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Along with his 60% damage multiplier with pasio circle up and sync node, he has Team smart command, spdef drops, sync cd and even sync burst for more smun

unborn vault
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But this is

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Very interesting

fluid anvil
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also all of that takes a lot of time to use

vernal condor
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Yeah he's never the best option

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But he's an overall great option

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So he's a good generic DC pair

vapid kernel
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Omg skippingmud puttinf that Larry to use

copper otter
fluid anvil
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Larry has the gauge to sustain 2-bar spam ??

vernal condor
vernal condor
fluid anvil
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Jesus

vernal condor
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not completely

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You need either 3 very fast pair

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or another pair with some kind of speed, which mud had with Bianca's Circle MG 2

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SS Lear combines both LearGem

sly gorge
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never thought of using larry for dc 🤔

vagrant ivy
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me neither

sly gorge
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ss lear also sounds crazy, but his support is just

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hooh

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what is it like, +60% sync multiplier?

vernal condor
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You can read more about them here GladionSip

misty forge
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+40%

vernal condor
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60% with grid

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  • x1.1 with circle
sly gorge
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jesus lol

copper otter
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He also has team smart command, so he can just give your allies +6 smun

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Which is VERY good for DPS focused runs like NC Marnie or Ss gladion

vapid kernel
vernal condor
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Both

vapid kernel
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Tht vid made me realise that Bianca can debuff offenses and defenses

normal parcel
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Tried with 1/5 Bede (exr) similar results compared to 1/5 wally (not exr)

vapid kernel
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Defense*

rare apex
crude sandal
rare apex
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wym, like damage ranges and the like?

copper otter
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Yea

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That's 100% damage variance or skill gears

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Actually wait, that's 1/5!?

rare apex
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5 wally syncs (SP3) all critting, plus middling skill issue gears

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yup 1/5 wallyboy

copper otter
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That's rough

rare apex
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i reckon if he was 2/5 and my gear was a little better 1m would be doable

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the gear in question

copper otter
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If the special attack was 20 pts more, it could have been possible

pallid girder
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The best should be +100 atk/spatk on the main striker on top of having some useful passives.
You have only +60.

rare apex
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+80 spa from gear

tender patrol
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Still not 1M but not bad

vapid kernel
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IM NOT GONNA LOSE ANYMORE

lethal siren
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People be using Wally to defeat wally

misty junco
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Looks like this DC is the first one I wont reach 1M HildaCry

tender patrol
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IF ONLY I ADDED A WALLY MOVE AT THE END

true locust
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Soo close nice marnie can hit 1m

tender patrol
true locust
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Its also depend on damage rols too

normal parcel
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Luckily SS gladion can still get 1m

normal parcel
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Don't know why sometimes SS gladion gets less smun, but I always use all the smun stuffs after the fleur cannon after 1st b move

dry whale
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I'm out of cookies, well still have the bronze but odds of getting SP3 are not good. So I'll be rocking CS2 for the foreseeable future.

acoustic chasm
fallen trail
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best i’ve been able to manage

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sprint cake on all 3

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kinda meh tbh

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wonder how i can improve with wally only 1/5

vast glade
brisk shale
pallid girder
acoustic chasm
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But the gauges

fallen trail
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tbh

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but shes only 1/5

misty junco
# vapid kernel Flex

Sry It wanst intended. I dont have ss Wally and Summer Marnie. I was looking for another way

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I'm long date player. And I do have pal Dawn, but before EXing her I want to make sure Ill be able to do a properly run

misty junco
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What was your strat? Pls

vernal condor
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Afaik they use a glitch, you cant replicate that

misty junco
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Ohhh lol!!!!!

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I'm Sorry guys lol

vernal condor
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Oh bruh

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I really believed the glitch thing WEEZing

west creek
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we do a little trolling

misty junco
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Just when gladion arrives

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We could get 3 sync buffs in row

teal harness
misty junco
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Lol

misty junco
normal parcel
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Managed to squeeze 50k extra with double b move

fluid anvil
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predictions for:

  1. what will be the best NC Red team? (/w Irida or not)
  2. how high will that best team score?
vernal condor
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  1. yes irida and prob barry
  2. like 3m maybe
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4m ?

full fulcrum
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Is 3/5 EXR SS Wally or Gladion better for this DC?

vernal condor
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wally

full fulcrum
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Anything I should look to roll for on Skill Gear?

normal parcel
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Move order should be fleur cannon, wally tm, sing (should connect), sing, gladion tm (should MPR), relic song, Rosa sync, wally tm, sing spam, fairy wish, sync with wally, b dazzling gleam, b fleur cannon, fleur cannon, Rosa tm X2, gladion tm, fairy wish, sync with gladion, sing, x speed, x speed (or rosa tm if you got MPR), then you either use final fleur cannon, or try to sing spam till wally sync if gladion is exr and you have a bit of time left

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However I had hs1 on both wally and rosa

full fulcrum
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Alternative for NC Rosa?

normal parcel
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Gladion wants someone that gives smun.stacks

full fulcrum
#

Okay, thanks!

normal parcel
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I think, SS hay should work

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However optimal team uses penny instead of NC Rosa

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(I think 5/5 penny)

full fulcrum
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I don't have her (yet)

normal parcel
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Don't have penny too

full fulcrum
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My best units that give SMUN are NC Bede and NC Blue

normal parcel
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I guess NC blue can kinda work

full fulcrum
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Probs

normal parcel
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Sa gladion can still get smun stacks by himself, if you are lucky with the tm mpr

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But I guess you probably should focus on a single b move

west creek
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or froslass

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it depends

normal parcel
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Make gladion do a million, but the bad one

unborn vault
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Would be a dream

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Field role when

vernal condor
#

Watch as this is the best 3v3 ice team

brisk shale
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why no twofer oleana?

vernal condor
#

wastes time

latent plover
vernal condor
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I said that too, but

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also -5 SpD from ice beam is useful IrisDerp

latent plover
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Oh yeah I guess that works

vernal condor
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if red didn't have that tile then sure

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but he does

west creek
vapid kernel
forest forge
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its 3v3 ice

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you wont be using glaceon's single target buddy move

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it takes like 10 seconds for the whole animation

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way too long

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animation, stat drops, and then move gauge acceleration

fluid anvil
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you can only try and use Iridas B-move at the very end after last sync as a last finisher
assuming you are even using Irida

forest forge
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you would just use Articuno's buddy move instead

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glaceon is just setting weather

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you can maybe fit in 1-2 icy wind for special defense drops at the start

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but the buddy move is way too long pretty sure

fluid anvil
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oh yeah, Irida probably doesnt even use her TM .. so she wont be buffed up anyway

topaz roost
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As someone without Penny or SS Wally

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Are there any options to 1M this week

forest forge
#

holy a 5/5 lyra a jigglypuff owner

topaz roost
#

Completely accidental

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I was pulling for Summer Gloria

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But yeah Nemona is doing like 500k for me

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And Gladion is even worse without Penny/Wally

hidden junco
#

Oh hey, we're about to break the 100k messages mark

lapis yarrow
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Is 2/5 Marnie worth using or no?

karmic radish
plush palm
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slight improvement but i think this is her limit

civic island
tribal flax
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submit your video please haha

cloud timber
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edited image

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idk why anyone encourages it

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saying "haha it's a joke" hardly makes it above outright cheating

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deliberately trying to mislead at least some people

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"it's just a prank bro"

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at least nobody else does it

lethal siren
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I will go all out on red's first sync and then will see the results lol

thick stump
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Is it possible to score 1 mil with ss gladion w/o wally or penny

pastel bone
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I think so

civic island
stoic crest
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Is magearna my best option? Please ping me

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I also have stuff like red lax and champion blue

pastel bone
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Bro

stoic crest
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Yes?

thick stump
stoic crest
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Please ping me with help. I check the guide and wally isn't high enough

pallid girder
stoic crest
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I wonder would gladion, wally, red lax work?

thick stump
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Ss glad, nc blue and melony

pallid girder
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That's a bad strategy for Gladion.
SS Gladion much prefer as many SMUN as possible on both his bmove even if it takes time to setup instead of sync rush.

cloud timber
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enough for this

topaz roost
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I think that's why he asked what to do without penny and ss wally

thick stump
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yea 💀

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I mean ss hau is kind of a budget ss wally

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Just without the nuke

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Still can set zone tho

stoic crest
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I'm very stuck and unsure because I barely got 1 million with those at triple

cloud timber
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no idea tbh, also didn't catch that your gladion was 2/5

stoic crest
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Are there any options I have that could work?

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I can candy gladion if I need to

cloud timber
#

better investment would be candying ss wally since he's optimal here

pallid girder
crude sandal
#

I'm surprisingly still at rank 24

cloud timber
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and won't rely on specialized supports like penny

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which you'd also want at a high level to do anything

stoic crest
#

How high for wally?

cloud timber
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3/5 is good

stoic crest
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Oh so he just needs one candy

cloud timber
#

yeah

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i got 1.8m with 3/5 ss wally with nc blue/melony but it's definitely capable of pushing past 2m

pallid girder
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1/5 SS Wally almost hit 1M alr.

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#1255888121648644197 message

crude sandal
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I've got 1.8M with SS Wally at 5/5 with Chase and Melony

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But with only CS2 and my Wally not having skill gear effects and him only having stats

stoic crest
#

I'm guessing blue and melody sync first, then wally?

cloud timber
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yep

thick stump
stoic crest
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What about grids?

#

It's hard to load so much stuff all the time on the phone

cloud timber
topaz roost
cloud timber
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you can take runs with either confusion or no confusion, both can work and i did 1.8m with no confusion as well

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but interference sync will help if you do roll it and will peak higher

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and yea you could push ss wally without 3/5 close-ish to 1m but it'll be far more of a struggle and you won't cross the line probably

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his 3/5 tiles are useful in every mode too especially for fairy type stuff

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hardly replaceable

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my first attempt was able to cross 1.4m

cloud timber
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wally does, innate gobsmack 4 is a 50% chance

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and you'll be using his b move once to apply rebuff

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so that will roll a coin flip

stoic crest
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I definitely screwed up something, I got 800k first run

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Do I need paralysis from blue and what else should he do?

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I know melody does nothing beyond sync and sing

pallid girder
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Err without para sing spam will be not that quick.

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That's like 101 of sing spam strat.

cloud timber
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always para first

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one discharge

stoic crest
misty junco
#

I did It. After a whole day LarryDead

stoic crest
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Definitely could likely have been higher I feel

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But it did the trick, it's higher than what I got for triple fairy

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Upcoming triple ice should be interesting.

misty junco
cloud timber
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i think triple ice would prefer 1/5 nc red over hala

stoic crest
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Yeah and he applies ice rebuff and endless buddy

spiral halo
warped gulch
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Idea is Blizzard->Tm and Sync spamming

stoic crest
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That would make sense

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And big b move at the end I guess

cloud timber
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yea

dusk plume
pallid girder
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Maybe even Blizzard in the end bc it hit 3 opponents so might actually outdmg bmove on 1 opponent.

long silo
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Is this the move if I am not using Hail

cloud timber
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yeah blizzard should be stronger

long silo
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Actually for the 1st S Move Hail, that's post sync right

cloud timber
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if damage has the same aoe penalty as secondary effects it'd halve for aoe after multiplying by 3

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and his b move isn't too much stronger than blizzard

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seems mainly there for the guaranteed freeze

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which won't come into play

thick stump
#

Yeah honestly I cant get past 500k with ss gladion

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Even with ss hau

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Not having wally hurts

cloud timber
pastel bone
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but idk

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I saw a team with it when you look for suggestions

long silo
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A shame I don't have Irida

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I even have WW3 for him

pallid girder
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Irida might not be the play tbh.

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Hail is just bad in dc and you can't compress sing spam with her.

cloud timber
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great combo for all the other modes but hail is bad enough that she's questionable here yeah

pastel bone
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This'll have to do

spiral halo
feral hamlet
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Wow, I didn't think they'd be able to top their worst DC typing but here we are

cloud timber
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rock bottom yes

feral hamlet
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Just don't have the necessary exclusive units dupes to get anywhere close to even 500k

pallid girder
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Imo SMarnie even at 1/5 shouldn't be this low. You didn't max her innate right?

feral hamlet
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What is considered max?

tender patrol
#

Finally I managed to do spirit break se+ plus another spirit break at the end

pallid girder
# feral hamlet What is considered max?

Not an expert of number but ex tech at 1/5 with good innate just shouldn't do this low imo.
How many buffs did you have on Marnie whenever she sync? Exactly 9 (6 atk + 3 crit) is too low when her innate is Rising Tide.

feral hamlet
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I had like 3 stats at +6 and probably got like 3 syncs out of her

cloud timber
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bulk up is a spammable move on its own so you can use it when you have excess gauge to speed things up a little

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for how much setup she needs 5 syncs with colress does sound standard

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but ig you only reached 4

feral hamlet
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3 is average honestly

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I like this score but it would be better if I could get a 4th sync in

cloud timber
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could run sonia + melony

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oh yeah you can't use her spam after her tm anyway bc gradual healing

feral hamlet
#

Spam with who?

cloud timber
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melony

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but in that sentence i was thinking of bulk up spam with marnie

visual mantle
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Idk to team to run with Hala

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Don't have Colress

cloud timber
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i'm trying bp barry + dc gladion

warped gulch
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I’ll try with Barry + Egg Glaceon

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Hala just too slow for Sing spam

pallid girder
#

"EGG GLADION"

visual mantle
#

What do you think about Grusha + BP Barry?

cloud timber
warped gulch
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Glaceon

cloud timber
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grusha sounds like a direct upgrade to dc gladion

warped gulch
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But compared to glaceon, he is way slower

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Bc tm and Def/SpDef buff after that

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Ofc Supp EX, but this isn’t Sing spam so idk if 2 Supp is good tho

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But that means you can use Colress for Aoe Def Debuff

cloud timber
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aaron enabling

visual mantle
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Then maybe Redlax or detective Steven instead of Grusha?

warped gulch
#

Speed is the problem tho

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Is Grusha that fast ?

umbral sleetBOT
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Fear the Snowy Mountain:

Reduces physical attack move damage taken by allies when the zone is an Ice Zone. Quickly charges the move gauge when the zone is an Ice Zone.

Super Interference 2:

Raises the chance of inflicting status conditions—as well as inflicting the flinching, confused, or trapped condition—with the additional effects of the user's moves.

Impervious:

The user's stats cannot be lowered.

Themes:

THEME_TYPE Ice | THEME_REGION Paldea | THEME_TRAINERGROUP Gym Leader

warped gulch
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295 speed

normal parcel
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Is gladion the second best or there's someone else that scored more (besides wally)?

warped gulch
#

Yeah, gauge found dead with Aaron

cloud timber
#

rip

warped gulch
#

The problem is that team doesn’t have much speed increases

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Grusha can +1 speed with his Tm, has speed increases when Ice Zone is up

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But that mean you’ll stuck with +1 speed until 2nd Tm

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So idk if Catalyst from Aaron can save this team gauge

pallid girder
#

How about dc Gladion?

visual mantle
#

Will DC Gladion need EX?

warped gulch
#

He is Field so ofc he need it

pallid girder
#

Yes 100%

warped gulch
#

His Tm gives +2 Def/SpDef to an ally

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But it also gives GH

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So you must use at least 5 Def Order

normal parcel
#

Na Aaron tm in unusable in dc

warped gulch
jaunty stratus
#

It has GH right

warped gulch
#

Which is useless too

normal parcel
pallid girder
warped gulch
warped gulch
#

It gives both Def/SpDef and GH to an ally

visual mantle
#

How about Kabu for Aaron?

warped gulch
#

Why tho

normal parcel
#

Kabu doesn't give zone and burns

pallid girder
#

Grushia + Aaron sounds cool. I'll try that with NC Red and Hala.

warped gulch
#

Speed tho

#

No one is higher than 300 speed at base

pallid girder
#

Maybe ft1 Aaron?

warped gulch
#

Just Grusha can gives +1 speed all by Tm

pallid girder
#

Roll some speed buff on himself.
But not proccing as much as being annoying.

warped gulch
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And that the thing gives both SpDef/Def, Zone

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So Aaron need 3 Def Order

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And Hala speed is one of the worst one

umbral sleetBOT
warped gulch
#

126 speed

#

Red ? I can see it work

#

But hala ?

#

….

normal parcel
#

Aaron isn't worth if you can't buff some defenses

pallid girder
#

Need to burn more tm inbetween ig.

crude sandal
#

Not sure if that's enough

warped gulch
#

You need to have it first tho

crude sandal
#

What's the team with Hala?

warped gulch
#

So you’ll need Ice + Sinnoh or E4 or Bug

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With 30 speed

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Which not much people reroll for it

warped gulch
crude sandal
warped gulch
#

Remember, this with Hala too

#

So +6 from Aaron alone cant carry this team gauge

crude sandal
#

E4 and Gym Leader lol

warped gulch
#

Oh right

#

Forgot he is E4

visual mantle
#

Grusha is okay at 1/5 right?

warped gulch
#

But still, that team speed is awful

#

You cant use Grusha tm that early

#

So need to use Def order at least 5 times

crude sandal
#

Does Aaron have Catalyst gridded?

warped gulch
#

Yes

pallid girder
#

In reality maybe BP Barry + EGG Glaceon / DC Gladion could score as high.

warped gulch
#

Yup

#

That what i plan for f2p Ice rn

cloud timber
#

grusha would really want speedy entry 2

warped gulch
#

But Def Orders 5 times

#

Idt it worthy

cloud timber
#

grusha gets 3 ice zones/uses of tm with trainer sync redemption and that first use is +3/+3

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the other two can last the fight but you can't use the second one early

warped gulch
#

He has 3 ? I cant find Tm mpr

#

Oh i see it now

pallid girder
#

It's not tm mpr. It's only +1 post first sync.

warped gulch
#

But 3 Ice Zone animation is waste too much time

cloud timber
#

if it was mpr it'd be much faster

warped gulch
#

And it is a Tm too

#

So it is definitely longer than normal Ice Zone

crude sandal
#

It will also have the stat boosts too

#

Also, BP Barry or Aaron for sync spamming with NC Red and Irida?

rose basalt
#

giving up on fairy without wally

#

so for ice triple is nc red good?

crude sandal
#

NC Red is definitely the best

rose basalt
#

weathwr sync or no

crude sandal
#

Either way

pallid girder
#

We can't be sure yet but I assume no hail would score higher.
Both can hit 1M tho.

rose basalt
#

thats all i needed to hear

crude sandal
#

NC Red can definitely score more than 1M even without zone or hail

true locust
#

I don’t think irida is a play for nc blue

#

You lossing sync from sup and hail slow it down alot

#

Its like 2 sync -

#

Nc blue and melony look the best

cunning rock
#

Got +2 Evasion and got 1 miss and 2 paras out of it

crude sandal
#

You'd use with either BP Barry or Aaron

long silo
#

I just assumed he meant NC Red

pallid girder
#

I'll stan for Chase until I'm proven wrong!

long silo
#

For Chase/Melony, what is actually the play?

#

Reset for thundershock para?

true locust
#

Hail is like sand worst idea

pallid girder
long silo
#

Okay. Do people pay attention to the amount of times he doesn't dodge?

cursive linden
#

NC Red
Irida
BP Barry

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Either i will do big damage or not enough time to sync

pallid girder
#

Well some ppl said even without godly dodge it's not that hard to reach the same number as using NC Blue in general.

long silo
#

Ah okay

unborn vault
#

Am I the only one to feel like Hoopa could be insane for 1v3 dc?

long silo
#

The last time I saw he reached 1.6m

unborn vault
#

Now he deals aoe dmg

#

And has more stats

#

That... should net around 5m right

#

Oh mb I wrote 1v3 I meant 3v3

long silo
#

Ye lol was about to say

unborn vault
#

But regardless, feels solid to me

long silo
#

But also depends. 3v3 is overall faster

unborn vault
#

I still think you can get in 6 syncs or so

long silo
#

3m is very easy to reach at least

unborn vault
#

True

pallid girder
#

He'll easily outclass SS Lusa's best score for sure.

long silo
#

Does SS Lusa have sync multipliers

fluid anvil
#

EXR Lear will beat both LuSSa and SS Steven in 3v3 easily

long silo
#

Can't wait for Psychic 3v3 to come back

#

I barely made it to 1m with SS Steven but tbf that's the time we were still figuring stuff out

teal harness
#

ss lana only has two, but one of them is on her 5/5 grid

long silo
#

Hmmm wondering how high would a sync spam Lusamine will reach

sacred badger
#

yeeee

#

its time to send articuno for battle xD

normal parcel
#

3/5 Deoxys should still nuke harder than 3/5 tapu Lele even without psychic terrain

lethal siren
#

Time for articuno tomorrow finally

#

SS N for single ice?

#

No need to lower too much sp atk

#

Just one

surreal venture
#

Is it better to use a 1/5 SS Wally for this DC or a 3/5 SS Gladion?

normal parcel
long silo
#

My 3v1 Ice will be... NC Red too

#

I do have SS Silver, but only 1/5

fluid anvil
#

NC red will probably be the best in 3v1 Ice too kek

normal parcel
#

Ofc it will perform pretty good if you lack the optimal damage dealer

#

SS Silver and SS Should perform better as damage dealers

pallid girder
#

I have high hope for SS Silver bc his support exr.

normal parcel
#

I think that with modern starts, Deoxys may be the best unit for 3v3 psychic

pallid girder
#

Deoxy's issue is the lack of sync multiplier and regular move being st dmg compared to SS Lusa's regualr being MT.

normal parcel
#

I mean if you sync spam, regular move isn't an issue

fluid anvil
#

not a chance IMO, EXR Lear has a much stronger sync nuke
even LuSSamine should be comparable or better
SS steven sync is somewhat mid, pretty comparable to Ashes from what I remember (which was considered on the weaker side), except he doesnt have nc blue or the 1Mil B-move

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so take Ashes 4+ Mil result and then reduce it to account for lack of NC Blue and then also -1 Mil for lack of B-move

pallid girder
#

It is issue when back then SSLusa is not actually doing sync spam but most like SS Gladion strat.

fluid anvil
#

then only thing Deoxys has over Ash is support EXR

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even without sync spam I think LuSSa (+Lana) reached ~3,7-3.8M and I dont see how Steven can get those numbers. His math doesnt add up

normal parcel
#

True, Lear nukes harder, forgot it got exr

long silo
#

Yep. I need Psychic 3v3 to come back for that reason

normal parcel
#

For pure sync spam Deoxys should be second over exr Lear I guess

#

Base tech + strike combo is too strong for AOE DC

true locust
#

Nc red show soon😆

pallid girder
#

Deoxy 's sync is more like a regular striker tho.

true locust
#

Good i have him 10E

normal parcel
#

But I guess luSSa DPS was too good

true locust
#

Steven is not build fo dc mode

#

But lg hse and cs

pallid girder
#

Only one innate multiplier so he's the same as striker with only 1 multiplier in grid.

long silo
#

I barely made SS Steven reach 1m in 3v3 but of course the strat is not there yet

normal parcel
#

I mean if you don't have Lear, or LuSSa, Steven should still be your best bet

pallid girder
#

Deoxy's speed form is a waste potential bc it doesn't use calm mind there.

fluid anvil
#

I think Lear EXR > LuSSa > SS Steven yes
Jacq had 3.,4M+ in 3v1, but idk how much he will have in 3v3

true locust
#

Lussa is still better then lear

#

Have super up next for sync

normal parcel
#

Normal form is also a waste because it summons psychic terrain,

pallid girder
#

Imagine speed form Deoxy with 1 bar calm mind spam.

true locust
#

Plus more damage and sup sync buff

long silo
#

Oh the actual comp was built for Sing Spam but I was not aware of it yet SophoKEK

normal parcel
#

I mean luSSa sync is way weaker than Lear one

true locust
#

But she have super up next he not

normal parcel
#

Doesn't she have it only for 1st sync

fluid anvil
#

I think only first yes

true locust
#

Tmp refresh

#

Can have for all:)

pallid girder
#

However Deoxy back then didn't really use full spam.

normal parcel
#

And I think seun luSSa sync is still weaker than Lear not seun

normal parcel
vernal condor
#

After looking a bit more at it, Egg glaceon has a shot at being a better partner to Red than Irida RosaThink
Sure there's the hail multiplier, but you can just not pick it and pick TM and Protect SMUN +2. That'll boost his innate mult and his final blizzard, on top of saving time from hail chips... That or Grusha. If you can reach 7 syncs, Grusha is better than Glaceon for the double support sync, but if you have less than 7 then Glaceon is good because he has a better gauge

normal parcel
#

Tm doesn't give seun

pallid girder
#

Deoxy can use Psychic terrain + seun support and spam himself.
Ig with this new strat and good player I think he might break 3M.

vernal condor
#

Only on 1 opponent, it isnt that significant

normal parcel
#

Maybe psychic DC was like fairy, sync wasn't the key

lethal siren
#

If u want to use glaceon
Then why not irida

You are not using sync rusher in both way

vernal condor
#

and hail fucking sucks, even with the mult

vernal condor
#

You're using Oleana

crude sandal
#

At least Irida protects your team from hail

normal parcel
#

Hail just wastes too much time

#

However, irida has extension, egg glace on doesn't

true locust
#

A yeap its on enrty only🤣

#

Then lear will be better

cloud timber
#

don't think you can hit more than 5 syncs with irida (in multi, at least)

crude sandal
#

Also theme skill stat boosts and extra MF passive

vernal condor
vernal condor
#

It's far from being important

true locust
#

Im not a fun off ice team this way nc blue melony still best

#

For red

#

Just barry is too slow

#

Set zone is soo time consume

normal parcel
#

I mean chase exists too

crude sandal
#

Also, what's the TM of the enemy?

normal parcel
#

NC red is Kanto, so circle is more effective

lethal siren
#

Ye

normal parcel
#

Too bad there's no Kanto sing spammer

lethal siren
#

You can work without hail too
He has enough multipliers

crude sandal
#

Erika Stun Spore spam ErikaNap

normal parcel
#

Chasw helps setting up smun

lethal siren
#

Ye

#

I will go all out in first sync

vernal condor
#

Compared to zone 1.5

crude sandal
vernal condor
#

Stop with hail, Irida sucks lol

lethal siren
#

Mo

#

She doesn't

vernal condor
#

Hail is such a time waste

lethal siren
#

Better than egg glaceon

normal parcel
#

For DC she's quite bad

lethal siren
#

For nc red
She is not lol

vernal condor
#

Yeah im saying for dc

normal parcel
#

Maybe for 3v1 she's great

crude sandal
#

You don't grid Arctic Arrival anyways

cloud timber
#

vs silver (ice weak 3v3) has x spe all

lethal siren
#

I knew it

crude sandal
#

Heh

lethal siren
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They will give a move like that

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Considering nc red

cloud timber
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except uh

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it's saying single here

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but it's clearly triple on the image schedule

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what am i missing

lethal siren
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That's X speed

cloud timber
rain copper
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Who is the other Ice weak opponent

cloud timber
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blue, it also says single

lethal siren
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Huh

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Blue has +

cloud timber
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so typo

rain copper
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Yeah might be an error in the pastebin

lethal siren
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For single it's blue

cloud timber
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i could have just scrolled down a bit and saw the other two trainers lol

misty junco
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Also check your gears

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Gonna show mine

spiral halo
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Yeah seems like I need extra para luck because my last attempt could only reach 8 sync buffs + 1 moonblast
My skill gear is just extra 90 SpAtk sadly

misty junco
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Also we need most crit sync as possible

spiral halo
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Oooh 100 SpAtk BarryPogChamp okay gonna roll for that, besides I just uncapped Pal Serena to 150
Thanks for sharing like always PrycePleased

misty forge
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Or you can look into sync effect multipliers

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Like critastrophe, type sync moves or wtz buff sync move%

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With those you can get better results even with not flawless stat gear

cloud timber
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pink feathers are the ideal ones for dc, i personally haven't used much yet though

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very specific to dc

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but i know that dc is the entire purpose for many people using skill gear

vernal condor
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3/5 Chase carry

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Also 4/5 Serena helps lol

sacred badger
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4/5 pal serena?

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what grid though?

misty junco
vernal condor
lethal siren
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Is +10 Blizzard powerful or +10 bmove

vagrant ivy
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how high is 83 def and spdef in npc terms

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I wanna get a scale of things outside of DC

vernal condor
vernal condor
misty junco
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Did It again. 1 refresh to sp Atk item Chase. And refresh red's trainer tm to every sync

spiral halo
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I just tried again and I averaged like 880k+, with max 950k. I wonder where I did wrong naruhodo oh I saw no speed debuffs ok then WatameLookRight

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You're right, missing one sync crit WEEZing

sacred badger
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whoa.

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redlax? how? ;o

lethal siren
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Just give +10smun to red
Then use atk move at the very last

true locust
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I will use this

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Nc blue and melony

lethal siren
true locust
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Yeap like most my units

sacred badger
crude sandal
lethal siren
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Ig you should take Blizzard coz +10 Blizzard better ig

true locust
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Protect take time