#Damage Challenge
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we have 2 sinnoh mature woman and 2 alola teenage boys who got 6 mil
balanced as all things should be
Use Aaron you sync 4 times: Aaron > Nate > 2 Lance. After that you prob don't have time for the next sync so you use both bmove and boom 1M.
Hmmmm, let's see how much Rei brings to fighting 3v3
Rei won't break 4.2 mil
at max
his sync isn't very strong but he compreses seun at least
Is this assuming he procs his TM all the way?
SSA Cynthia compress para and fighting zone
Bianca rebuff ain't aoe so she won't boost that much
And with double HS1 too
Yes but she needs to sync so the score will be similar to fire dc
which was 4.2 mil
Rosa would need to sync
double hs1 on Cynthia?
LS and grid
Oh wait I'm not sure who sync harder in 3v1? 1/5 Lance or 3/5 Nate?
huh she has hs1 on grid?
Lance
it's not even close iirc
Also triple sprint team too
Rei sync is still on the weaker side for modern dds so he won't be hitting any milestones
Don't forget to max Lance's multiplier too. 1 Hyper Beam and 1 Giga impact in the very beginning of the battle.
It's made up by triple sprint
And Rei can potentially sync under zone twice
Yes but rosa needs to b move still and ssca still needs to sync twice
SSA Cynthia won't sync twice
Sprint striker is like tech striker so they balance them in the same way.
so the amount of syncs Rei does will not be too different from regular sing spam
Only 1 sync multiplier. And Rei meets worse bc his grid multiplier isn't even a 2x.
?? how will fighting zone last for the entire fight then?
It won't
You just accept that you're not gonna have all sync under fighting zone imo.
your Cynthia needs to sync at at 1:57 seconds for her to even need only 2 syncs
I would replace Cynthia with a SEUN support
Sync by SSA Cynthia more than once is super unnecessary imo.
Rei has infinite seun
Oh right
that's why he even has a chance at 4 mil
Arc Steven for 3 SyMUN from his TM then

*rosa
Get rid of Rosa
Ah yes, get rid of the only source of AoE fighting rebuff
rosa will definitely be the optimal spammer cuz she's on type in terms of boosting here
btw I think Lear could break 5 mil when aoe psychic comes again
Also Rosa has Potion spam while in Pirouette
won't enemies have aoe moves?
That is if they use it immediately
oh wait rosa being optimal means you can fish for evasion on b move
does rei have sure crit syncs
Sleeping the middle with her B Move might be optimal while SSA Cynthia uses Numbing Blow on the sides

side kicks because each miss saves 4 seconds
Which one? HS1 or Slippery Sidekicks on him?
sidekicks
Ok
evasion in dc is absolutely insane
I'm guessing it will be like this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/29000/72401?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFChUYGx0pLC8xMjM1&x=true
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
if you get 4 dodges you gain an entire sync
And that means syncing with SSAC twice
Which means, rather than RNG with Rosa, you RNG with Rei instead
For Rosa, she'll prolly Potion spam on her first turn, switch to Pirouette using her B Move, use Teeter Dance to apply the AoE fighting rebuff and sync to switch back to Aria
isn't it better to just
sing spam with rosa,
sync
form changes
b move
change back to aria
How the heck do I fix the fairy one cuz this score is just bad
With the amount of sync acceleration you have at the start, I'm not wrong
At best you have -4 sync CD at the start
You have to use Rei's TM, which is -2 and Numbing Blow with SSAC so -1
Actually, which means, you need to use Rosa's B Move immediately, use Teeter Dance and use her sync to go to Aria
do you have any fairy zoner or rebuffer
I have penny/Wally but she's 2/5 hes 1/5
Not much why? 😅
awwww
SS Gla/SS Wally/Penny is an easy 1m
I didn't honeslty bother with this ranked DC
Haven't even tried as lance for the dragon one yet
Not even bothered doing 1M total
use ss wally penny and ss glad. Grab super syncer, devastation, smun on tm and super duper effective 2 with him. You drop enemy to -6 special attack before clicking ss glad tm. Then you spam whatever ss glad tm you have left and whatever penny tms you have. Use moves with Wally and Penny to lower cd.Do not attack with glad till the last sync where you sync with glad. Make sure fairy zone is up and fire a 8 smun seun fairy zone rebuff boosted b move at the enemy
you first sync with Penny then wally till your last sync @clever wasp
this should be 2 mil minimum
So don't even worry about trying to grid a second b move for him
yes since you lack the move levels and desire to gamble
Pokeboy said they don't wanna gamble much @warped gulch
Dont grab Super duper Effective 2
Who need gamble
I don't have candies left over really
pokeboy move levels are 1/5 for the partners
Penny is 2/5
they won't have enough smun for 2 b moves
Just use B Move right after Wally’s Sync
@clever wasp is your Wally caked ?
Yes
no but we gave you descriptions
only difference is mine takes sede2 and pykuo takes second b move
I'll set it best I can
I don't see devastation
Unless you mean overpower
I mean the move damage up when special attack is down tile@clever wasp
Nk
K
Adrenaline from Wally doesn’t matter, just use another Wally Move
Penny and Wally both gridless
I'll try
me watching as 1 b move does as much as my entire 3 minute run with BP valerie

if you're looking at it that way 1 b move can outdo every other team except ss nemona since people have a way of reaching 3m
between colress and alola grimsley, which is prob gonna be better for steel single
and i guess use hilbert for the stat boost?
Just having trouble getting Gladion to sync and then use his b move after
With what strat
Think if I do get to it, 2 b moves will be better

The super dupereffective
try double b move then
If I can even get it off 😅
Broke a million failed at the second b move
Cynthia moves too often
try the second b move
try sede2 then
Did you do like video ?
even if you only get in 3 syncs in single b move is fine
Saw it. Still struggling for two b moves
Sucks that he has to use fleur cannon firsy
penny>wally>ss glad>ss glad b move
Tell me, did you use Penny’s Tm early ?
No
you only need to use fluer once btw
No, Wally-> Penny is better here
Two activate b moves both times I have to use fleur cannon
that's an advantage of single b move
With Wally sync yes
Didn't sync with Wally first cuz I wanna boost his damage with his sync
Yeah I might go back to super effective cuz I can't get the second b move off cuz Cynthia won't stop attacking me
Okay should be safe for top 500 now
You still Synced with Wally 1st ?

I boosted move level for Gladion too late so I don't have much time to get a higher score now.
Gonna try double b move a couple more times then back to super effective if I fail
All 3/5?
Is there any place I can improve? top 3000 is hard these days, bro
try gridless wally
I already did
Yeah I can't do 2 syncs. Cynthia is too annoying
I’ll send you my 0 rng run and you’ll only need to copy it

Like idk how you couldn’t use 2nd B Move, i didnt need any luck here
Can i stay in top 1000 and can i improve my fairy team?
(I don't have SS Wally/SS Gladion/Penny and while SS Mina is 3/5 she doesnt have Adrenaline)
I got to 1.7 million. Couldn't get Penny's tm in
Gonna try to throw something for as Lance in next
Thanks for your help guys
Uh oh
As long as 424 people don’t pass me in a minute I’ll be top 1000
1 minute 
ggs
phew, barely got 7 mil in
Would’ve probably been able to get top 500 if I had Gladion instead of Nemona but I’ll take it
I dont think 200 people will upgrade their points in the last minutes right?
For what barrier? Top 1k?
how long is awaiting results
I think it takes a week for the official results to come out
oh ok
Lance was not as strong as expected for this
My final score, glad there were guides because I wouldn’t have been able to figure these out myself
Did anyone check what top100 score was
Who is my best bet?
I have seen a Hau clear, but is there any BP Sophocles clear yet?
I have checked the document but there isn't!
without 3/5 you aren't getting any sync multipliers or buffs and bp sophocles is no exception
hau would be best but if iono is exr she's actually potentially better
and she gets brainpower at 2/5 so maybe she's just better anyway
Oh 2/5 Iono! Yeah she is ExR, lemme try her!
I can level him up!
I have 13 4* Strike candies
best to stick to iono rather than worry about anything else
bc even if you ex'd bp soph or hau i couldn't guarantee they'd outperform
Is this grid good enough?
yep
Thankyou! 
also ideally you're using elio instead of colress for faster spam, with redlax para being able to enable from turn 1
grid body slam hostile environment
Event over
Do we get something for rankings?
title
Oh
I can't even check the rankings when I haven't done all 3 levels? 
Okay I will try Elio too!
anyone remember if an unit that has hit 5 mil in dc not crossed 6 mil?
Uh so our difference was only the Cynthia fight kind of 
I had no gears and did not roll any gear for this dc, focused on hse
I believe it's either reach 6M or didn't reach 5M. No units only hit 5.xM for now.
Being only 100k behind 3rd Dragon Rebuff is funny, so the 4M team was probably with Nate 
let's gooooo Nate won!!!!
Nate got a spot on an optimal ranked dc comp again
thought that was only 1.5 mil for a second
Not need nate🫢
This gears are killing me 
vokz you will have to dm personally probably
iirc vokz was banned from this chat
for what ??
idk, iirc mods can't reveal that info
just telling the scores is enough
Top info:) you got sneak peak on dragon
no need for ban reason discussion in dc chat tbh
If he send me his scores i can post them
I saw he got 6,3
Maybe did more
Since got 400k after this
Or improve others teams
Different topic: Lucas gets support exr is actually good for enabler but a lot of ppl act like it's his worst exr
Lucas was one time use in dc
His role is end today
We got 2 dragon ranked already
So . Sup exr is good for lg hse not only dc
Next hse he may be good use hard tell for sure.
Prob most would like field since set zone would be faster this way
I've seen ppl want him to get striker ex bc we definitely lack aoe dragon options /s
I recently gave him support exr (4 hrs ago
)
I was kind of expecting Field but I'd take it
Sad multi role don’t give nothing
For me this should grant all off this in once then is multi
Like we can say strike sup tech:)
3 old rolls in one
And then bonus sprint field
Since in real they have just 1 roll wat give bonus effect multi is like nothing only sts in game
If lance have sup and tech would be way op then he is now
So SS Steven
15m points wew
Steven is more broken then arc units
Only lack sts boost and grid
Arc steven and deoxys 😇
so tied with dahlia
yes but currently their top scores are tied
Arc cynthia have sure crit is big thing
Since arc lance many times fail it😒
Even 3 sync on 1 target could fail
ArcLance has sure crit too but not in base. It's really weird they put it in grid.
I now why they put since he fail slot😒
Cynthia we need wait for vokz score then tell wat he cook
Don’t know if someone pass me but i did try my best
So vokz tell me his score fairy 6,32m , dragon 4.1m ground 6,78m . Its all he don’t post teams
Steven pierre rochard sound funny:) its steven in french?
Haha in French it’s just Pierre Rochard
Steven’s better tbh
And the fact that Rock from Kanto is also called Pierre in French
Sick you almost got 250 tickets more than a freebies clear
This mode is very worth maximizing! (Ironic)

So is this good enough for 2/5 ExR Iono?
This is the first try!
I was also told that someone did 6.68M on SS Gladion, but there's no screenshot
that would still be a bit behind Arc Cynthias score
but Dahlia has been surpassed twice
6.7 million with Arc Cynthia is insane
I wonder how much rng is needed to get such score
Even ignoring skill gears
imagine if Arc Cynthia didnt play on hard more with million year animations and sand chip
Would be at 8M+
What ?
If get more luck 7m could be done
And we are going to do it again 
Gladion 6,68m? Not sure about it
13M is insane, man 😭
Yeah thx it’s hardwork (don’t think I’m still top 20
Fine by me
I did 4.5 million and I can probably go higher
But the difference is too big. What sequence they used to reach this high
I don’t think i had any gear on for ss gladion, ss wally, and redlax
2.6m still
I just used the team and changed redlax to ss mina and no gear
Ya got passed sadly. Top20 is around 13.4 ish iirc.
Arc Cynthia is the best in both DC and UBs, 2 vastly different modes
they've created a monster 
Name off this is luck🤣 you need get lucky its all about .
Lucas with dragon zone extension, 1 cast enough to last to the end right?
Oh so it's pointless to pick that grid?
You don’t need extention any way. But i use it
I see
Was pointles since others not use it
But hard pick anything better so i stick whit extention
After 2 lance sync is gone any way
So you set befor or after
Ah alright pretty similar from what I used. But mine just 3/5 with mid gears 😅
Nah it's more than that. You probably used some optimal sequence, since even without gear the difference is pretty big
Granted I didn't get an mpr but I doubt skill gears can make a difference of over 1.5 million
Super sparring ended today, thought it would have ended tomorrow
Don't even know if I could have polished it a bit
Here's mine. If nc nate ran adre1/hs1, 4mil is very possible but I ran out of cookies 😅
Thank God the last few hours the top20 didn't push much harder, or I'll have to mald on fairy stage for that perfect rng run to get 4.8m+
Nate saw 4m score too
But my whit lucas is higher i saw
Arc cynthia 5,4/5,5 is standart score for 3/5 /5/5 exr
Mpr is a huge boost, SE + 5 sync up stacks
Maybe your pattern+mpr+good gears will be enough
Off course you need mprs:)
Depend on tactic is 3-4 need for top score
Since i new 2 diffrent way off doing it
Both need heavy rng
Cyring isn’t that far away…
Yeah the Last one I try getting better the Last Day with no invest 🤣
I’ve done top 46 if I remember well so far
Better is make preparation in advance and invest then you get it for sure
Yeah like for this one I make my Penny from 1/5 no exr to 5/5 exr, Wally from 2/5 no exr to 4/5 exr
5/5 Lance Day one, pull again on Cynthia for her 4/5 (not that usefull), exr Dialga also
I try sneak in in psychic hse too top 20 also last days and fail and learn need do it from start hard then last days relax and enjoy the show
And I was at nothing to 5/5 Oleana if only I had the candy lmao
thx. So ground has the new highest score
Hahaha it help also pop top 1
Top 1-3 is total diffrent
This you need push too limits all they time
Top20 not realy
Yeah obviously
Ah the begining top 1-3 was like 11M no ?
Or 13M maybe
Now it’s between 16-17m amazing
I did 13m
Since arc units any one can scout score go up
Befor was zero banners for dc
But the firts days Lance wasn’t out already lmao
When 1.3M in Dragon was good score
For the SS or DC it’s hard making portal like in LG or HSE
Because some of unexpected duo can be very useful
And Master fair also
only ss glad was unscoutable from optimal comps this dc right?
Actualy daily scout is here for ☝️
daily scout doesn't count
5 star odds are so bad there
~~ignoring that I got a 5 star today ~~
Wdym 0.0001 odds aren’t fair odds ?
This is scripted

pyukuo is the god of luck
This was the cutoff 1 min before reset
is this true?
yes. even sometimes, ppl with great specs phone wont risk running max speed cuz they aint risking to restart the good rng run
the game is optimized so poorly for android
Yeah, I just changed phone and trust me, when using elio that propelling strike 5 gauge proc slowed my spam so much more than anything in videos, now it's quite faster
ya all play at max speed?
my phone is pretty average but my times are pretty normal at min speed
Because with speed it would lag even more
whats your new phone ? android ? what CPU ?
Realme GT 6t
Snapdragon 7 gen 3
My old one was a Snapdragon 662
The difference is light n day
PAIN but thak you
i'm probably top 22
My previous devices playing this game have always been Android
interesting. I have OnePlus 8 Pro with Snapdragon 865. it was top back in 2020, but that was 4 years ago.
I wonder if a top 2023-2024 CPU would actually make a difference or not
I do get some lag in hail sometimes
or if the screens are better now .. mine is 120 hz, but maybe current 120hz screens are even faster
It's me ! (the first lmao)
no but what does that mean ?
better phone makes better score
like less lag so optimal time ?
865 is really solid
My gf has it since 2021
It's prob one of the best in terms of performance/price ratio
But it struggles with high spec moments in PoMa sometimes too
i have 680 but idk shit about CPU 
The difference between 662 and 680/685 is really huge
despair
And between 680 and 865 is not as big
ah ok
7 gen 3 and 8 are some of the best rn
I grabbed my phone at a steal discount
It's a different world
My ice clears were basically 7-12fps locked with hail on
Now it doesn't even tank under 20-25
The greatest tells imo are
- SS Hilbert sync
- SS ace sync
When spamming should I use only the spammer
Those two KILL mid/low level processors so bad
Like with sstred I need his bmove for multipluers
I don't think tbolt DC runs cakewalk without SC steven
Something like this?
Haymaker only on red,start with discharge and max move,then spam bmove and sing?
during high speed gameplay yea. non decent phones will face random fps drop and causing them to lose extra time as the run goes by (only matter if they play competitively anyways)
Snapdragon 7+ Gen 3 is good, yes ? even though its 7, not 8
any overheat problems ?
I followed batman's 4M run but this is what i got
I'm happy though. 3M is cool.
My own attempt was 2.95M
3.2 is decent enough, w
None here
You don't wanna spam bmoves
not sure what the difference was though, this run seems almost identical, 8 sync boosts at the end + bmove
Gen 8 is not worth the money
It's often 20-30% more expensive and for not huge improvement
But that's red's main damage
His nuke is kinda mid with only 1 multiplier

Bruh
It's DC
Every time you do a slow move WITH REGEN ON you're wasting so much time
woah rank 1 is 6M now
haymaker, cakewalk, static shock 3
that's 3
and if you're using melony you aren't escaping the gradual healing that red's tm gives unlike with elio
so you're wasting time (albeit not needing to put up with 20% mpr)
Can confirm sadly, I definitely needed a full para for the 4 arc Cynthia syncs, while players with better phones and same stuffs as me could consistently do it without a full para
I literally tried for hours to do it without getting a full para and was always a bit short
Even with the flinch at the start
Maybe the video that did I without full para had good sing luck
There are various layers of p2w for dc
You need the fully invested meta units, and a good device too
I never play and low speed
This good only when you sync
So tap sure fast
But for others stuff not realy a diffrence for me
I mean if you are playing at 60 fps or even at 30 is fine
the game doesnt even allow 60 fps thats the worst part
otherwise smooth combo all the way
So single steel dc
We can use steel wish pair if we want colress nuke coz he himself can spam 
Imma use sc Selene coz she also gives atk and crit
And will do some flinch gaming
Arc Steven maxes out offensive stats though
I am not getting him
I mean
I am pulling him
But haven't got him yet
Well without Steven yeah this is your best bet
Yep
I could use anni Lillie but ig Selene better coz she has steel wish seperately and extension
Is this fine?
I took all necessary tiles
I got like 5 triple para but I can't get a single flinch
5 attack here
Nothing, got two triple para in a row, 0 flinches
I resetted like 30 times
0 flinches
I don't know why 30% for me means always 50 resets
Isn't how math is supposed to work
Mpr2 50 resets every time
you need flinch with NC blue ? is it necessary ?
Body slam 50 resets
I think it is
Otherwise electric terrain Doesn't last till hau sync
For ash isn't necessary but for hau I think it is
What's the odds of getting like 10 triple para (9%) before getting a single flinch (30%)?
Ok managed to get the flinch
Not that bad considering that my electric gears are basically only stats
Maybe if I gridded NC blue for more DPS I could have gotten an extra ticket, but didn't really expected to land a discharge too at the end
would you be able to score more if that was melony instead of rosa?
oh so thats the play with hau
Nc blue and rest hau on fairy zone
You can't sync with double support because power plant activates after the sync
And initial electric terrain barely lasts till second sync
Plus hau can't really land much syncs so isn't even optimal to support sync twice
Melony I think is a bit slower because the 2 potions at the start are a bit faster than 2 sings
And extra master passive I guess helps a bit with the final b move
Plus Rosa has natural remedy so you can afford a random burn
But I don't think there is much difference between Rosa and melony
Also my Rosa is hs1 while my melony is adrenaline so Rosa was more obvious
Not sure if the extra sync countdown is needed for syncing with electric terrain, but I guess the flinch definitely is
Compared to ash you get 1 less sync but electric terrain is better than 2 extra sync buffs and his sync definitely hits harder than the ash one
I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, I’m replicating batmanbnb’s run to the letter … maybe the gears aren’t the same
I think with tbolt red instead of NC blue you can get 2 extra syncs if you use fairy zone only once, but the lack of double rebuff definitely hurts to the point that I don't think is ever worth
Gears and low rolls
Gears matters
Yeah definitely
I could have scored more with hau if I had some multipliers besides the +100 spatk
Sadly I had good Kanto gears
But not so great electric or Alola ones
These are the gears I’m using
It's no good
+100 is the baseline
Then you start counting the multipliers
You can get +100 in a gear ???
+20 and +80
Skill pin can give +20 offense
You definitely want at least +20 and +80 for the relevant stat
I see
+4% isn't worth over -20 SP atk
I guess maybe if ash gets burnt your pin may be somewhat useful
But -40 sp atk definitely hurts
I just calced this and you need at least 4% to outweigh 20 spa (on ash, will be unit dependent). Is the 3% not a flat multiplier to raw damage?
I was told that the overall total % dmg on gear is multiplicative. So having 45% para sync dmg on gear will boost sync dmg by x1.45 exactly
But obviously the different small %s on gear add up together first
Ah ok good to know
Bad skill gears, but I think I'm done with this rotation
A few tickets aren't worth my time

Additive between each other skill, but the total is multiplicative
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I’m curious… you said you sync with both supports first, right? During Hau’s first sync, is Electric Terrain still up?
No i sync melony then hau nc blue and 3 sync hau when fairy zone up
No prob
I will not come close lol. I had like 12 sec left after last Hau sync. Even if i get a lucky run and managed to get in one more sync, i’ll still end up in the high 3M-low 4M range.
2 hau sync not crit if crit would 6,1m
You need get 2 para and miss or 3 para for low -6 speed
I got in my run 3 para
So i now how this did 6m:) same run like me but sync crits:) good i now the drill
@true locust show your electric gears 
also 3 paras is insane, I dont think I ever got even 2 para procs in DC..
is it me or the few times I played it felt like they miss more easily than other stages
How you can sync that much?
That's not a good Colress grid
You REALLY want infliction freebie so he could spam moves
This is for steel single target
Yeah. And it's not a good grid for him
It’s a comparison of damage
If you can afford to do it without Infliction freebie, is actually faster, but you need super gauge support
Good luck with gauges
Colress has a 2 gauge move so it wouldn't work
Yes I mean you need super gauge support
Someone managed to make it work in a comp
Don't remember what comp
I think like only SS Hau can ramp this much speed without acceleration, and even then idk
Cause Hau raises everyone's speed
You aren’t really understanding the point of the pictures
I do actually. You want to compare the damage for the 3v1 steel challenge, but without infliction freebie your score wouldn't be as high
Why would you do that? Unless you don't have a steel zone setter it's never worth it
Besides, they're not fast enough for another sleep spammer aside from maybe NC Rosa
Colress spam takes more than 25 seconds to reach a sync and Melony spam takes 20
Zone and rebuff is better than adding a sing spammer
Maybe
No zone or rebuff unit buffs colress defence to 6
The optimal team is Steven, Colress and Palentines Marnie
Selene , steven.?
Colress can do it by himself, and SC Selene raises defense + provides zone
Is Selene in the comp you just said?
also tm mpr is 3 energy cheaper than sentry entry 2 if you want him to self buff
And colress only buffs defence to 4
Arc Steven completely buffs corless, same for SC selene
Marnie is better for this challenge but Selene works
Selene is only worth if Colress isn't your nuker
I mean if you have arc Steven, he can definitely buff corless by his own
So you are saying there are other variables other than colress having to spam himself huh
I wouldn't use Arc Steven to raise defense
So it’s possible there’s variability in the grid options huh
If you use selene for steel zone, she can buff defense
Not really. Colress' grid is pretty fixed
I mean you just need 1 bullet punch from Steven to top off defense and it still saves a screech
Bullet Punch wastes way too much time
It's a very very long b move
Then I guess SC selene will be optimal for topping def
Yeah, if Colress nukes that is
And I guess metal.claw is faster than screech
In general he's better with Marnie as the spammer while Marnie nukes
Can she debuff defense?
If so then I guess it works for 3v1
Yes
Huh. Mine is 1/5 so idk
No
Then why she's better?
But selene can do that too while buffing corless defense, or does Marnie buff defense too?
Even 3/5 vs 5/5 corless?
Yup
How can you think Marnie sync is better than colress
Because I ran the calcs
And it's about 20% stronger
Lol
and also doing damage comparisons in game isn't very accurate
because there's damage rolls
There is no way Marnie outscores colress
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
See for yourself
Don't think Marnie sync isn't even close
like if theorically that first screenshot was a min roll and the second was a max roll
the difference would seem bigger than it is
and if instead both did 30k then they would seem equal
when they aren't
Don't know what calculations you did, but from my calculations Marnie is much weaker
Can't screenshot right now because power button works when it feels too, but from my calcs corless nukes harder
Ok managed to screen
This is Marnie after 6 syncs, 5/5 EX +5E and with -2 steel rebuff, max multipliers
With mega evolving pairs I don't even know what of the two syncs should I consider but both are weaker
I was talking about 3/5 vs 5/5
Ah wait I forgot to ex her
Colress under the same circumstances
See that's why
But with megas what's the correct sync? The second feels just like with an extra sync buff
It's not. Her mega stats are higher
The one you use for mega is the bottom one after the first sync
Isn't even 1st sync always with mega stats?
iirc no
I don't think so since she starts in base then transform
Zerena and Lusamine has the same thing
@normal parcel @civic island @thin wren @vernal condor @lusty galleon
I did not get minds games proc and the intention was evasion boost but I've never actually got it. I did get very lucky on para/miss 3 are hard required.
At least 3 misses or paralysis are REQUIRED.
This uses skill gears so your numbers will be lower.
crazy
Try to calc SC selene, her "mega" sync is still higher despite she gets 0 atk
I think the mega one has +1 sync buff
the SMUN difference haha
I mean in the calculator if you try to calc anni Steven or selene damage, mega has still higher damage despite they get no offensive stat boosts
Then where the extra damage in the calculator comes from?
ah selene sorry, that was marnie
Yes Marnie I know that gets a boost
But selene doesn't and there's still discrepancies between mega sync and regular sync
She gets metallic power 5, but that doesn't affects sync
I don't have p Marnie so I can't test her
I happen to have her 5/5
I can test
Most people will be using colress
Most people don't have invested Marnie so yeah
Colress is accessible
But Marnie can reach higher
We’ll see
Colress can already hit 1 mil, meanwhile, Imma use SC Selene. 
With Steven both can probably reach 2 million
So summer Tate is not even under consideration? 
It always has +1 Sync Buff
For mega at least
Summer Tate doesn't synergize as well with Arc Steven
Besides doom desire can mess timing up
Colress requires the least set up time and can utilize 2 supports that give percent damage bonus in arc Steven rebuff and a zone setter
Yeah. Though I think Colress is better to power Steven's passives and theme bonus
I mean redlax and ScSteven do not allow status spam soo…
You want Arc Steven for arc passive and rebuffs
And a steel zone setter
Everybody has a steel zone setter you don’t need Marnie
Steel myth has barely an impact since it doesn't affect syncs
Marnie compresses that with the nuker
You can use Lillie
Oh I still have to cake my Steven
Better late than never
I’m using next supp cake for anniversary raihan, so I’ll be cheering for y’all this time 
Colress as dps, Lillie zone setter and Steven buff/rebuff
DPS?
Lillie zone setter you gotta sync with her once

Kinda a waste tbh
you mean sync rushing
Colress can do a lot of damage in 0 seconds
Colress as the “damage dealer”
Don’t have p Marnie to set zone and she isn’t available currently so Lillie it is
so Ash do reach 4M
Nice
6M when 
For this you only need flinch first turn. But speed -4 will be if no rng.
Do you have to use Hau e web for 4 times to get enemies to -6 to get 4m+? Or try with -4 only?
I did 4,7m cr2 and -4 speed
But then you need nc blue have mind games 2 and first turn para all flinch low spe def and when they have aoe move need flinch again and low spe def then 4 if sync crit no issue
So you have to remove 1 sync boost to compensate
I guess -4 is fine since the innate is electric terrain
Managed to get 4m but even with melony I can only get fairy zone for the last 2 syncs and I also need a full para (but probably is always the same issue of playing at 6fps)
With Rosa I just kept syncing with hau
In the end power plant seems to not really waste time (is more the smun that stalls a bit of time)
I guess the abilities that really waste time are those that summon zone
Or maybe they don't play the animation it the field is still up
Ofc I don't know if I could have scored more since hau has 80% crit and I don't really know how many Crits I missed
Btw I think that +50 sync at -2 spdef hits slightly harder than +0 at -5
I would have definitely scored higher if I could have used fairy wish for the last 3 syncs, but it won't last
Not sure if an extra support ex is worth over sacrificing 3rd sync
You do it your way:) i my
Hmmmm, SST Red or V. Kris for electric 3v1?
setting up his nukes is itchy ;x
Oh lul, V. Kris has higher nuke than him anyways
I forgor 
I was comparing them at different sync buffs
Well, SC Steven exists
hrm
What's tomorrow's dc?
Steel 3v1
Colress is THE best nuker for tomorrow
poppy also works.
No exceptions
If anyone uses solgalillie it'll be funny
She might be better than Colress if their Colress isn't 3/5
Who can buff colress so he just spams twave
I don't have him
Arc Steven being useful in DC tomorrow? 
I was thinking colress, scteven and ??
I do not have any arcs
You not only need an offensive buffer for Colress, but a defense buffer for him
And prolly stay that way for a while
I think he's fine at 1/5 anyways
Not my choice thl
redlax probably.
thankfully, Arc Steven has his EXR so
How about sonia
colress express nuking ltes go
Relying on Flag Bearer?
Both supports help Colress max def, but Sonia completes his buffs faster

uhhh, arc steven +6 ATK team wide...
They said SC Steven 
I'm using scteven though
oh
Again no arc 
oh sc steven + colress hmm
If you have V. Thorton, then no problem
Sonia is a good choice yeah?
I'm prolly gonna use Redlax + Colress + V. Thorton
V. Thorton completes Colress's crit buff
Would you rather use Max Knuckle instead?
You have vorthon, Sonia?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000000014300&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcICQoMERITFBobHB0eICUmJyg&v1=019100060100&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFFRYZHSAjJScoKy0v&v2=009004037600&s2=1&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=4444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFCgsMDQ4UFRYXGB4fICEiKCkqKyw this sshould do it. i just need to roll adrenaline 1 on arc steven, and MAYBE headstart 1 for redlax.
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
I would rather use an offensive support
So Elio then
But towering force
Oh yeah, Towering Force
Well there's colress tm
Redlax has max Shielding Strike but only for himself
Only +4
I'll do Sonia
Yeah
Or if you're feeling frisky try aaron
Bank on that six defensive orders
Aaron rushes sync faster than TW spam 
Wait really
But the problem is he needing to perform many actions
I bet the F2P clear will be Elio/Lillielio/Colress
Aaron can't use his tm if he wants to spam.
And Lillieleo is the main DD
His tm has gh.
yeah Aaron can never click his TM, same as SST Red
That only means you get to save their gauges 
Oh lol
Why the hell are the majority of our support/sprint units are special enablers 
Is V Thorton better or Redlax?
They should be use together.
Why not both?
i kinda want to see 3/5 v.thortons o.o
thats why we should cake nidooak
I guess you want to sync with him only once, corless sync should be stronger, so lacking haymaker for 1st sync isn't a big deal I guess
Colress has no Haymaker
Correct
Well, Sonia/Colress/Lillielio should score high as a F2P team. @warped gulch Wut you think?
Or maybe Elio instead of Sonia to help set up her innate
doubt i'd be able to get arc steven 3/5 before the end of the year .-.;
i think colress would be good enough for this upcoming battle though
Cuz I am thinking about putting SC Selene or P Marnie on the other slot.
Colress is the best tho like a lot of people mentioned
I wouldn't care setting up Lillie's innate, you only sync with her once
Well, the only advantage V. Thorton has over both of them is support EXR
Why sonia tho
She is pretty
Colress already buff +4 Def
That's enough
Yeah Hilbert is faster
I find it funny that even at 5/5 +10 energy, Colress lacks 2 energy for his full potential
He only need +5 total with Hilbert/Sonia
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
I'm gonna rely on Colress and V. Thorton MPR
Isn't smokescreen sync gonna slow Colress down?
Yes, but not that much
Not if the enemy misses
do you really need -2 acc though?
accurate debuff is not that great
He debuff every Sync
It can potentially save time in the long run
It not limited to the first sync tho
hmm
Colress ?
If you successfully dodge a lot it'll be worth it, bur if not yes it slow you down.
Well, you have both para and miss
Colress still a spammer
If we go for more than 3 syncs with Colress then there will be stat limit text penalty?
I'd go and avoid Screech MGR also
Man, look at this bullshit
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19100/60100?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFGBkdHyAjJScoKy0uLw
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
BTW, besides Colress, will you be doing a Lillieleo clear as F2P clear too?
idk tbh
Was talking about arc steven
I guess corless + Lillie is a good f2p combo
I mean Lillie as the main damage dealer
For those people without 3+/5 Colress
She will perform worse than fully powered corless, but she should be good enough, the annoying part will be setting up -6 speed
She can do that by herself, but requires trip wire 2 plus 4 sunsteel strikes
Why not use Elio instead to set up for her?
But elio is even worse at debuffing speed
At least Lillie has guaranteed -1 per sunsteel strike
Don't even know how a f2p team featuring Lillie as the main damage dealer should look like
Ok managed to land an extra sync in fairy zone, I guess the trick was to use hau trainer move
Whoops
So in the end, Hau has truly defeated Ash

@vernal condor we shud have petition to add Normal weak DC stages
EXR vs. no EXR
ikr
That would be better than even the ranked DC alone 
Ah, Normal 'weak' DC
alola is better than some cheating anime character any day
Larry has multiplier?
And by that grammar, you're implying that Ash beats Hau

There we go
Inertia
plus his sync multi
all sprints are also techs in a way
Last day of Electric Weak DC Stage
I have gottem 2m with Ash
I can definitely get higher like 2.5m at least
But I don’t feel motivated enough despite leaving at least 10 tickets on the table ^^;
Maybe i should pull for him one day
Ash can get 3M+ with the right team
But i dont think we'll ever ger normal DC as a ranked stage
Surprising I'm at rank 122
Indeed, right team with the right investment
But I have no NC Rosa for the sing + support + sprint combo
That also
Well I got 2m with NC Blue, Ash, and Melony
Can definitely get higher if I decide to look up someone else’s run with the same team
But again, feeling unmotivated ^^;
by 2 mil as well
I guess is the price of not having an exr (and ash probably never will)
I assume if ash had tech or field exr it would have been a close match
Tech would've given him extra stats
also another example of how important compression is
Hau got saved by the fact that power plant is pretty fast (I guess it adds no animation besides the extra smun from hau passive)
ehhh, his passive makes it not so fast and enemy does use x speed all so he had bad luck here
I mean a smun stack isn't that slow and the smun stack is actually useful for the finisher
Initially I thought that power plant added a full zone animation every sync, and that would have probably made hau perform worse than ash
At least I guess something like v selene passive really slows down syncs
But I think is zone that is particularly slow compared to terrain
hi, can someone tell me if adjusting this changes anything
For regular AOE DPS it cuts the damage if split
oic
For no split damage or single target makes no difference
Strike EX sync doesnt divide among targets right?
Strike ex is no split
so if the tool tells me that this EX Striker gets 4 million on a strike sync, then its actually 4+4+4 = 12 million damage




