My first assumption is the stat is already maxed for Lance, but if that's the case then you would not be asking. What buff is Lance missing
#Damage Challenge
long silo
warped gulch
It just so inconsistent
long silo
I actually missed the last SEUN, but the enemy got paralyzed so I got an extra B Move to compensate for no SEUN on the first one lol
copper otter
It doesn't matter the buff. It stalls regardless
warped gulch
That why i hate it, i rather using consistent strat unless i have no other choice
copper otter
Akak random
warped gulch
long silo
This was the score (and with CS2) so can definitely be higher with SP3. But yes more RNG than necessary
warped gulch
Like the f2p Elesa is really painful
long silo
Sometimes I hate my curious mind 
warped gulch
My clear on YT is 1m
thin wren
I think that this is the highest Ash score rn?
long silo
It doesn't matter the buff. It stalls regardless
Hmmm that's weird
warped gulch
But funny enough, she can go way higher
thin wren
*5.2 mil
warped gulch
Just need some insane rng for 5th Sync lol
long silo
Wait he's 5.2? Last I saw it's 4.9 lol
jaunty stratus
This was the score (and with CS2) so can definitely be higher with SP3. But yes ...
HOW
Am i just bad at this
long silo
4 SEUN on Red's 4 syncs. Missed one more for +8PMUN B Move but the lucky para sort of made up for it and made me do one more B Move
Pykuo's method is way easier tho
thin wren
Wait he's 5.2? Last I saw it's 4.9 lol
check leaderboard
dry whale
Did the run again, the number was 997,243 for the B move.
jaunty stratus
Can you share your red kit?
thin wren
Did the run again, the number was 997,243 for the B move.
how much smun and did you have seun and max gauge?
long silo
It takes up time, but iirc someone does B Move spam because of their gear, and reached 1.5m
I think it was invert?
zenith jolt
I Hope not since I right exr Lucas
pallid girder
It takes too much time so you don't have much time left to sync as much as possible.
zenith jolt
Like
long silo
It takes too much time so you don't have much time left to sync as much as possi...
They only did two syncs, then just spam B Move
long silo
Can you share your red kit?
zenith jolt
Lucas gave dragon zone and support boost, where Nate give Dragon zone long one time and circle
But Idk which is Better
jaunty stratus
It takes up time, but iirc someone does B Move spam because of their gear, and r...
So i just spam thundershock until sync?
Also gmax at start right?
pallid girder
I Hope not since I right exr Lucas
It'll still be helpful in upcoming dragon/ground hse, so don't be sad.
jaunty stratus
Thank you!
zenith jolt
Since in all case, it’s a sync waste for Lance
jaunty stratus
Ill try this
zenith jolt
It'll still be helpful in upcoming dragon/ground hse, so don't be sad.
Yeah However I wanted to exr him
jaunty stratus
Thanks!
long silo
This was slightly different from what I did, but way easier RNG lol
pallid girder
Yeah However I wanted to exr him
I support you. I also exr Lucas and it's not rly as bad like redditors said.
long silo
I wanted to EXR Lucas, but I have a queue for Support Cake
dry whale
how much smun and did you have seun and max gauge?
+3 sp damage up , super effective up and max gauge
Super Powered 3
vernal condor
https://youtu.be/h5Eotf5_09M for yall asking about ny volkner
long silo
Oh damn
Definitely would have loved a 5/5 Volkner someday
Damn I should have done the select to at least 2/5 him
pallid girder
If only seasonal and SC are allowed to have exr update...
long silo
SC Steven Support EXR cope
vernal condor
Inb4 sprint (his sync could lower countdown by 6 with adrenaline ls)
long silo
That can also work
thick holly
not too bad
vernal condor
Lmao
vapid kernel
I want Petey meme
thick holly
peta
vapid kernel
Nah impossible
vapid kernel
Leme do Petey maybe im bored
vagrant ivy
gl
crude sandal
What's the besr clear with Ash right now?
vernal condor
I wish we could see the rank on previous editions
vernal condor
What's the besr clear with Ash right now?
3.7m I believe
crude sandal
3.7m I believe
So field or tech EXR would've blasted Hau
latent plover
I think that's my limit with 3/5 SS Hau
latent plover
So field or tech EXR would've blasted Hau
A big part of it is the B-move at the end, so it'd be 2.7 million with B-move
fair mist
H WHITNEY FIELD WHEN
wait whar wouldnt she just get normal zone
thick holly
Elio why must you have the single WORST MPR IN THIS GAME
umbral sleetBOT
crude sandal
A big part of it is the B-move at the end, so it'd be 2.7 million with B-move
How 2.7M?
latent plover
B-move does 999,999
unique abyss
tf is wrong with Elio, his passive activates so often when an unit is about to sync Of course not in crucial moments
latent plover
And rest from syncs
fair mist
is elio better than melony
unique abyss
if you have gauge problems
crude sandal
is elio better than melony
Elio is better in certain situations
Like with Cerena back in 3v1 dark DC
pallid girder
Sync spam wise never. But if you main dmg dealer needs gauge or his buff he's not replaceable.
long silo
For example: SST Red
thick holly
is elio better than melony
if you use ssr red YES
Red fucks up everything with his tm
long silo
Damn I didn't expect SST Red to be screwed with his AoE Gradual healing lmao
pallid girder
Also Rising Tide unit with poor self buff.
thick holly
sc emmet
bright niche
Which is the best team for sst red if we don't have NC blue??
long silo
Oh damn that kid's got hands
fallen trail
elio and a speed buffer probably
long silo
Elio + SC Steven
fallen trail
sc steven is a lot
pallid girder
Elio doesn't need speed buffer. It's his strength over Melony.
long silo
lol
fallen trail
yea sc steven can -6 def and speed which sst red wants
pallid girder
Any SEUN unit is passable, if you don't have SC Steven.
fallen trail
does sing work like that under electric terrain actually
fair mist
like instantly fail?
fallen trail
i know it fails but is it like the instant fail
or the slow fail
well, if they’re paralyzed it shouldn’t matter nvm
vernal condor
wait whar wouldnt she just get normal zone
Yes and ? That's great for her
fair mist
if you ever sync with her
like its a strong sync but like isnt she mostly gauntlet shenanigans now
cedar cloak
Can go over 3 mil easily it seems if you don't have Hau which I don't
melony is better in there, no?
vagrant ivy
SST red is gonna be the king of electric ST yes?
or is there someone else i'm forgetting
vernal condor
like its a strong sync but like isnt she mostly gauntlet shenanigans now
Well in Gauntlet she appreciates the zone and the extra bulk 
I tried to use her in UBs but she demands so much
pallid girder
He's hitting the highest number now among all the st electric if I didn't miss anything.
vernal condor
He is
bright niche
Ss hau with ex role is doing more damage than sst red
fair mist
yeah cuz its 3v3
sst nuke is single target
against 3v1 he should be the best by a mile
bright niche
Why sing and thunder wave spam has slower with sst red in this DC ??
thick holly
probably but ud have to run elio
With the worst mpr in this entire game
thick holly
Why sing and thunder wave spam has slower with sst red in this DC ??
cuz his tm has gradual healing
you NEED elio and his mor
bright niche
Oh fuck I have almost forgot
thick holly
You CANNOT use sst red's tm
chilly prawn
melony is better in there, no?
I don't believe so, I don't think you can get another sync in?
thick holly
it completly fucks up everything
bright niche
True
thick holly
i feel sc steven + elio is better than c blue if you lack striker ex role
pallid girder
I mean if it can refresh at the start of the battle it's not the worst rng.
thick holly
Cuz the setup is easier
bright niche
So we have to use elio to almost maximize his attack Stat also NC blue is special
crude sandal
I find it funny that Hau only wins because of his EXR. Ash does 2/3 of Hau's sync without any EXR and him being a base striker. That's a win for me TBH
bright niche
Why Ash b move has nerfed in DC
chilly prawn
? ash b move still hits 999,999
crude sandal
Why Ash b move has nerfed in DC
It's not nerfed
It's just not like SS Gladion where it's all targets
bright niche
? ash b move still hits 999,999
Yup u r right but still not much score than expected
pallid girder
I mean no one will legitimately think SS Hau is better than Ash in every aspect just bc he outdmg him in dc.
chilly prawn
I considered getting hau in the select scout cause he's eluded for ages, but decided Nah.
I'll do some resets on this over the weekend pretty sure Ash gets 3 mil +
bright niche
Also sst red has cakewalk which takes time to setup
thick holly
best i could do
pallid girder
But Ash still kinda fallen off imo.
crude sandal
But Ash still kinda fallen off imo.
He feels that way, but EXR exists
latent plover
Ash is just a damage dealer. One of the best at that, but still just a damage dealer
bright niche
best i could do
Noice sc Steven meta
thick holly
sc steven is easier i feel
pallid girder
Nowadays MF or Arc strikers do more and more bunker things.
thick holly
sibce he debuff speed he's easier to use than c blue
cuz with c blue you have to thundershock 6 yimes
to have -6 for cakewalk
long silo
best i could do
How many sincs did you do
thick holly
i could have more but my sc steven is 1/5
long silo
You could easily get close to 2m
thick holly
3 with sst red and one with elio
long silo
1 Elio + 5 Red + 1 B Move
thick holly
i could but propelling mive 5 keeps activating
long silo
Okay ye that's bad
cedar cloak
@chilly prawn I think with melony you can get this too.
crude sandal
Sigh Why won't DeNA get permission to rerun Ash 
thick holly
Wonder if arc steven will be any good
crude sandal
Wonder if arc steven will be any good
He will be good in the upcoming 3v1 steel DC
And Colress is the best steel nuker
chilly prawn
hmmm maybe you can get an additional sync with melony it seemed too far so I didn't bother
long silo
Colress time
But if Arc Steven can reach 1m anyway then I can skip on making Colress EX
crude sandal
Even if SS Lear was here, Colress is still miles better
long silo
True. However, hypothetically SS Lear can brute force 1m
Not the best, but he can probably do it
swift pulsar
Would love to know the configs for this run please !
crude sandal
Zone setting, V. Thorton might be the best
thick holly
oh boy
warped gulch
Zone setting, V. Thorton might be the best
The problem with him is his zone can run out
thick holly
Can't get infliction freebie without using 5 energy
warped gulch
And i knew that bc i had that during 3vs3 Steel
fallen trail
is ash the 2nd best for this
warped gulch
Zone was gone before final Sync
thick holly
Thorton is not a great zone setter
warped gulch
thick holly
he sets it only once
fallen trail
he has support exr though
thick holly
i would put c red
pallid girder
If you sync the second by field ex the zone last the entire battle if you're only spamming after that and no chip dmg to waste the time.
warped gulch
If you sync the second by field ex the zone last the entire battle if you're onl...
Not always
warped gulch
The Zone can run out
fallen trail
fallen trail
colress nuke is actually good
warped gulch
But -accurate isn’t that good when compared to +evasion 
crude sandal
But -accurate isn’t that good when compared to +evasion <:Clod_Grief:12337325090...
Tell that to Cerena during dark 3v1 
warped gulch
Tell that to Cerena during dark 3v1 <:SerenaSip:623126213224955904>
Still worse than evasion bc i used Zinnia
pallid girder
I mean, do we have enough energy to pick if we also want full multiplier + spam tiles?
crude sandal
I mean, do we have enough energy to pick if we also want full multiplier + spam ...
With extra energy, yes
warped gulch
You must pick it
crude sandal
lethal siren
Is Lillie good for single steel?
warped gulch
This is what I got
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19100/60100?s=5&l=150&r=6&...
Why do you even take Tw mgr ?
crude sandal
Why do you even take Tw mgr ?
pallid girder
Oh yes he doesn't need team sentry entry anymore with the new teammates.
long silo
Arc Steven time
lethal siren
But atk
warped gulch
Oh yes he doesn't need team sentry entry anymore with the new teammates.
I mean for f2p, we still can use Hilbert for that
pallid girder
Klingklang need support who can give him atk and crit
His new teammates is ArcSteven aka physical NC Blue.
swift pulsar
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=025500013100&s0=5&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010...
Thank you
lethal siren
His new teammates is ArcSteven aka physical NC Blue.
I still didn't get him
I hope I get him tmr
pallid girder
I mean for f2p, we still can use Hilbert for that
I tried Hilbert + Pmarnie in 3v3 and tbh it's not that good.
warped gulch
I tried Hilbert + Pmarnie in 3v3 and tbh it's not that good.
I meant about +2 Def tho
Hilbert can help him as a f2p option
glossy token
so a million years ago there was a meta with kimono grimsley and bp sophocles
lethal siren
Anyone know how grimsley is doing here?
thick holly
long time uh
thick holly
Anyone know how grimsley is doing here?
iirc colress does better
glossy token
yeah we didnt have colress then
thick holly
Colress is one of those shitty dps but nuke like a monster tech
glossy token
this is the dark ages
thick holly
Kimono grimsley is very gimmicky but had a great nuke
pallid girder
Grimsley can hit 1M, but not better than Colress with the best build.
glossy token
but i said that to lead into a question
copper otter
You know i find it hilarious that tapu Kek is beating some rats. Man, red and ash are washed 
glossy token
if i have to pick between ex og elesa (who has inertia and brawn sync) and bp sophocles (who has double down and tough sync)
i think og elesa still wins?
but i want to ask the brain trust before i assume
thick holly
Grimsley can hit 1M, but not better than Colress with the best build.
that and Colress being the one doing the fail animation skip makes you have a wider team
Arc steven is also perfect for colress
pallid girder
I mean Red isn't really washed bc we all know he's not gonna win in 3v3 anyway. Ash tho...
thick holly
Rebuff twice
Raise the +2 defense colress needs
Also nukes hard
Symun
glossy token
like a new version of the team with colress og elesa and elio or redlax would beat colress bp soph redlax
is what im trying to confirm
thick holly
doesn't Og elesa do better
thick holly
pretty sure she does better
Bp sopho needs defense buffs and elesa needs speed
Both needs a quick setup cuz theirs is slow
crude sandal
I just found out that Ash's Going All Out TM has a massively fast animation when it fails
glossy token
bp soph has iron def for max def in 3 turns; elesa can x attack for +4 but only has faat track to raise her own speed
so you need someone who can max her speed rather than redlax or elio
pallid girder
His sync multiplier is way lower than Elesa.
glossy token
ah ok double down + tough is less than inertia + brawn?
that what i wanted to confirm
per #1009557516369281075 shes queued up for ex so i just wanted to confirm
crude sandal
ah ok double down + tough is less than inertia + brawn?
Inertia alone is already stronger than both of BP Soph's multipliers combined
glossy token
god i wish i had ex sycamore
support sync and +6 speed
kalos villain event rerun when,,,,
crude sandal
Good lord, there's a Chinese guy with 5.5M points
glossy token
... hm. pep rally marley gets to +6 in 2 turns and can block heat wave burns
hilbert has slippery not pep rally but can also get elesa to +6atk without needing to use her grid for mpr
normal parcel
Does mega evolution affects the opponent defensive capabilities?
glossy token
but hes not ex. so the tradeoff is ex sync (skyla, who still needs an mpr for +6 speed) and mpr on xatk for elesa vs hilbert with mpr on xspeed all and no ex sync but fully set up sooner
pallid girder
Just use the team someone alr used and got 1M. Elio + Volkner.
chilly prawn
normal parcel
I should have enough stuffs to exr both hau and Steven, for Lillie I'm 19/20 so she should be fine too
chilly prawn
this is missing 2 special defense drops
glossy token
Just use the team someone alr used and got 1M. Elio + Volkner.
if its base volkner mine is only 2/5
chilly prawn
not sure how much more that would give me
glossy token
if its lodge i can look into it tho
normal parcel
So melony should score similar to NC rosa
I guess 1 extra sync in exchange of a weaker b move
normal parcel
Mind games 2 ls?
chilly prawn
yeah
I'll try to get a "good" run this weekend, but I'm not reseting for a 1/90 start right now
normal parcel
Problem is that you already need triple paralysis
pallid girder
if its base volkner mine is only 2/5
I don't think og Volkner's sync move level matters. He's just a para and terrain setter bot.
normal parcel
How many syncs?
chilly prawn
5
chilly prawn
600k ranger
glossy token
I don't think og Volkner's sync move level matters. He's just a para and terrain...
oh its not syncing with him? i see
normal parcel
Scored the same with still 3 + 2 but with 999.999 b move
chilly prawn
Like I said hte special defense will play a pretty big roll with all the syncs, but getting it is annoying
3 mil is free base run with this comp though and I'm good with it
get the triple paralyze and roll the team you get 3 mil
normal parcel
I mean I still had -2 but maybe you offsetted weaker b move with Extra moves
Because I did the same number of syncs but with stronger b move, maybe I lost some sync damage with weaker gears or bad rolls
How many moves did you used after last sync?
real wind
Well there was an attempt
fallen trail
she needs an exr badly
normal parcel
Best hau team is still melony and NC blue?
fallen trail
i think shes 3rd longest pokefair without a rerun now
wild they reran penny before her
long silo
Who hasn't been reran for a while besides her
fallen trail
gloria alt is now longest
long silo
I know Rei is approaching one year
pallid girder
1 yr is not that long.
fallen trail
then its ingo and diantha (though both are dated)
long silo
Nemona is 1 year + 1 month tho right
long silo
Ingo is still weird
Rerunning Rika over him who just debuted recently
I mean it worked out for me but that's still weird
pallid girder
SS Gio and SS Cyrus had to wait way longer until their non paid rerun iirc. Almost 2 yrs?
fallen trail
they took a long time yeah
long silo
Yikes
long silo
Now I feel bad skipping Akari + Cyrus, but I was expecting an onslaught of MF reruns in August so I had to skip that
fallen trail
lear had to wait over 2 years too
pallid girder
Yes so Nemona can wait for another yr and it still makes sense in Dena's standard.
chilly prawn
there is only time to use the final b-move after last sync
paper plover
For damage challenge when to use sstred b move? Do I use immediate to set terrain/para like in normal content or do I wait
jaunty stratus
Start
pallid girder
SST Red's bmove neither para nor set terrain. Are you asking for max move?
Use his max move in the near end of battle to deal dmg. You para with NC Blue and terrain can set by his syuc and last for the entire battle if he has exr.
long silo
Max move is the one that sets it, but start ye. To paralyze the opponents
pallid girder
What you guys use it at start?
jaunty stratus
Also yukure i reached 500k i still don't know why I'm doing it wrong 😭
long silo
I used it to lessen the para RNG + take advantage of Max CD 3
long silo
Also yukure i reached 500k i still don't know why I'm doing it wrong 😭
Will it be possible for you to record
jaunty stratus
My battery is a bit low atm so maybe tomorrow
long silo
I used it to lessen the para RNG + take advantage of Max CD 3
But I think a lot of SST Red runs do this
That's fine
jaunty stratus
Im playing with x1 speed does that affect it
long silo
That's optimal
dry whale
I guess 1 extra sync in exchange of a weaker b move
No, the B move pretty much hits the million. 997k was the number on a test run I did. On my 3.76m run I was not paying attention to the b move number. If mind games 2 activates , that guarantees the million.
On my run it did not activate
paper plover
Ye sorry I meant to say max lol
pallid girder
I was following invert's run who has the current highest score of sstr (from what I've seen) and they didn't use it at the start.
long silo
I can attempt if I feel like it, but I'm already satisfied by my current score
Oh wait.
Said score did not have NC Blue on it so I definitely had to use Max Move at the start 
But my first run that uses NC Blue, I did use it at the start too
delicate junco
okay guys quick question
lets say I have a 3/5 Ash
would i have more damage having 3 kanto teammates, or 2 kanto teammates and one e terrain setter
civic island
Master fair passives doesn't boost sync moves, while terrain it does by 50%
So terrain is always better
delicate junco
oh, so dont even worry about ash's passive then
paper plover
Messed up the ending of the fight so didn’t get a final sync off (queued one too many sings) rip
chilly sierra
Ok I actually can’t get better than this
paper plover
Oh well
My team can prob do better than 540k
But it’s enough to get me silver from the shop today
(Wanted another flying zone for my Neo Cheren and SS Ethan teams)
crude sandal
Doesn't SS Ethan set zone already with EXR?
chilly sierra
He does
fallen trail
cake expensive
dc silver is super good anyways
he might be the best dc pair
flying zone and aoe sp def debuffs
delicate junco
yippee, made it to rika 2 tier
surely i can do a little better though
Current team
paper plover
Doesn't SS Ethan set zone already with EXR?
He does but I don’t always run him on the teams
delicate junco
yeah i figured as much
fallen trail
are you spamming stun spore?
delicate junco
yes
fallen trail
might be an issue w ash’s grid then
delicate junco
its the 3/5 sync nuke template
fallen trail
huh
delicate junco
fallen trail
i’m confused as to how you arent hitting a million then
paper plover
Show video of an attempt if possible
delicate junco
question: is que spamming the same in 3 vs 1 vs 3 vs 3?
fallen trail
its more effective in 3 vs 1 since the enemy moves slower
but it still works in 3v3
delicate junco
thats not what I meant
fallen trail
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/26400/2500?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAE...
i would drop rejuvenate for trainer sync redemption
delicate junco
i meant on account of the enemy having more turns, should i be doing anything else besides spore spam between ques
delicate junco
for an extra seun
you mean Not Gonna Lose is actually meant to be used?
fallen trail
yes
delicate junco
its got quite the windup
fallen trail
it gives him seun
delicate junco
like i could have sworn it ate like 10 seconds
maybe use it with 30 seconds left and then buddy move for a finisher?
honest tendon
this is the highest i’ve ever got in damage challenge but ik others are doing way better with this comp 🤔
crude sandal
Depends, what's your team?
crude sandal
I used NC Rosa to maximize Ash's MUN stacking, but I think Melony is better
sharp roost
Also damn Hau’s really strong, but I only have 1/5 lol
fair mist
hes the best nuker for this dc with exr
crude sandal
Well, if Ash had his EXR, then he might be better than Hau
Wait, no, he is already better than Hau with EXR
latent plover
I used Rosa too since I only synced with Blue anyways and Rosa is faster
And can give smun to Hau
latent plover
Wait, no, he is already better than Hau with EXR
Maybe only with field or tech EX R. If he would get anything else he won't surpass Hau
fallen trail
tech with strike exr too broken
sharp roost
It’s the best EXr combo ever, OG Tech w/striker EXr
royal lodge
anything w/ tech role is cope , except newer striker units i guess
crude sandal
Tech not only gives him stronger sync move, but also more stats for him so it's a general increase overall. Field is also a general increase, but you can just slot in Melony instead of NC Rosa
sharp roost
I gave my tech candy to complete 5/5 Oleana, I hope she becomes really useful vs future no-special conditions rankeds
delicate junco
wait a minute
think i found a way to boost my numbers
i was so busy spore spamming i didnt spore the other targets
when I have static shock
980k
sooo close
glossy token
alr this is pre-ex with a ko wild charge to cap things off. went with skyla as my ex supp sync both for the +speed and bc i had forgotten she has fanfare on her grid so no elesa mpr needed. debating if fleet feet on elesas tm is preferable to aiming for skyla's mpr since that only procs once while elesa's procs every time you tm so i assume you want skyla?
fallen trail
yea gotta paralyze all 3
glossy token
but overall v happy with this as pre-ex numbers
echo axle
Any decent team for dmg?
pallid girder
Have you checked the pin? EX og Elesa + Volkner + Elio.
thin wren
So field or tech EXR would've blasted Hau
Idt that would have made up for the 1.5 mil difference
delicate junco
BIG NUMBER
crude sandal
Idt that would have made up for the 1.5 mil difference
I mean, tech or field EXR is already x1.5, so Ash already gets 50% more of his score
delicate junco
just yesterday you were saying no 1mils
well it helps having a busted Ash unit in my back pocket
thin wren
I find it funny that Hau only wins because of his EXR. Ash does 2/3 of Hau's syn...
keep in mind that the 2/3 score is with more syncs since hau takes longer to get going cuz enemies use x speed all. Not to mention Ash even with exr probably wouldn't beat hau's 5.2 mil
glossy token
well it helps having a busted Ash unit in my back pocket
still, my pb is still only 800k off ex og kris so o7 hats off to you for joining the 1mil club
thin wren
I mean, tech or field EXR is already x1.5, so Ash already gets 50% more of his s...
Thing is Ash doesn't have exr and as predicted hau is better than Ash by a mile here
glossy token
ash being broken is still ash being broken
thin wren
also the enemy has the wrost tm for hau
crude sandal
And Ash has no ET to boost him
thin wren
and hau has many other disadvantages like extra time per sync
glossy token
dont ned exr if youre just cracked B]
thin wren
And Ash has no ET to boost him
as I said compression is king in dc
drowsy pier
If my SS Hau is only 1/5 EXR , is that still better than Ash 3/5 EXR?
I haven’t used a role cake on SS Hau yet, want to make sure it’s worth it
thin wren
Ash just doesn't have the compression to beat hau
pallid girder
If my SS Hau is only 1/5 EXR , is that still better than Ash 3/5 EXR?
I haven’...
No.
thin wren
If my SS Hau is only 1/5 EXR , is that still better than Ash 3/5 EXR?
I haven’...
yes, Ash should be better
crude sandal
Ash just doesn't have the compression to beat hau
I mean, base striker and dealing 2/3 damage to a base tech with striker EXR is still impressive
pallid girder
SS Hau needs his sync multiplier in grid, which all lie at 3/5.
crude sandal
Initially, Ash only has at least 40% of Hau's overall sync
thin wren
I mean, base striker and dealing 2/3 damage to a base tech with striker EXR is s...
thing is 1 mil is coming from final giant b move so it's more so a case of damage not nuke and the tech starts off with 1-2 less syncs
expected more from Ash tbh
crude sandal
thing is 1 mil is coming from final giant b move so it's more so a case of damag...
And Hau already does more than 1M with his sync later on
glossy token
also ash mechanics/logic question: do you go rejuventate for sync into bmove?
thin wren
disappointed that he didn't break 4 mil
crude sandal
disappointed that he didn't break 4 mil
X Speed All is a double-edge sword for both Hau and Ash
thin wren
And Hau already does more than 1M with his sync later on
Yes but the striker does ⅔ after getting 2 more syncs due to a max power b move
glossy token
440bp is so insane they really just said yeah have all the damage in the game
pallid girder
I mean does it really matter?
Ash is still a lot of ppl's go to unit when facing an unknown stage while Hau isn't.
thin wren
X Speed All is a double-edge sword for both Hau and Ash
worse for hau cuz he gets a sync less and he has the stronger sync
thin wren
I mean does it really matter?
Ash is still a lot of ppl's go to unit when facing...
Yes but more was expected from Ash
even me, a hau supporter thought the difference would only be 300k
crude sandal
I wouldn't really saying about Ash doing 1M with his B Move when Hau can do it more than 2 times and increasingly too
thin wren
I wouldn't really saying about Ash doing 1M with his B Move when Hau can do it m...
his b move takes no time investment
glossy token
i mean. ok. can we all agree both ash and hau are excellent here
thin wren
it's not about being excellent
glossy token
at the end of the day if you're lucky enough to have both to choose from
you're already in a very small group of people
thin wren
and?
glossy token
most people are going to have hau because ash has been effectively retconned
thin wren
This is about the expected gap
not who has it and who not
I am a bit surprised Ash didn't hit 4 mil at least tho
crude sandal
I am a bit surprised Ash didn't hit 4 mil at least tho
Probably at 5/5
thin wren
does he have mpr on seun?
crude sandal
And maybe if someone is cheeky enough to give him Pinch Push and actually works
glossy token
sure, but if fewer people have ash (let alone a fully invested ash) its going to be a lot less likely for him to rival a unit a lot more people are able to run
crude sandal
does he have mpr on seun?
Trainer Sync Redemption only
pallid girder
Also I totally forget Ash need to use 3 moves to unlock bmove. I always though he can fire off his bmove anytime in the last seconds lol.
crude sandal
But his Not Gonna Lose TM is extremely slow
thin wren
sure, but if fewer people have ash (let alone a fully invested ash) its going to...
pretty sure more people have ash
glossy token
doubt.jpg
glossy token
Also I totally forget Ash need to use 3 moves to unlock bmove. I always though h...
it doesnt deactivate
thin wren
hau release wasn't really that popular because of electric already being cracked
thin wren
Trainer Sync Redemption only
oof, that's why it wasn't 4.2 mil like the calcs. He doesn't get seun on every sync huh
pallid girder
He still need to use 3 moves and that consume time, just like ppl criticize about SS Hau.
crude sandal
oof, that's why it wasn't 4.2 mil like the calcs. He doesn't get seun on every s...
It's extremely slow anyways
Anyways, I might try Pinch Push strat later
glossy token
But his Not Gonna Lose TM is extremely slow
would you not just use a better seun setter so you dont wind up with gradual healing?
crude sandal
would you not just use a better seun setter so you dont wind up with gradual hea...
The gradual healing doesn't matter
Since the only move he's gonna use is his B Move
glossy token
like if you go all out into thunder x2 you have bmove unlocked
thin wren
*double rebuff
thin wren
who else would you run him with?
crude sandal
like if you go all out into thunder x2 you have bmove unlocked
Going All Out will lower the B Move condition by 1 even if it fails
I've tried it
thin wren
without blue his score is probably 2.2 mil?
You never use thunder in optimal Ash run pretty sure
thin wren
Yes but seun setter is not worth here
glossy token
You never use thunder in optimal Ash run pretty sure
you have to, unless you're going for trainer sync redemption and 3x tm
thin wren
doesn't he have 3 tms total?
glossy token
crude sandal
4
glossy token
ig you can grid the mp refresh 2 instead
crude sandal
Even Not Gonna Lose is better than Thunder
crude sandal
how fast are failed non unique tms actually
As fast as using Potion at some at full HP
I've seen it
glossy token
hm. so you'd want like this and just roll for the mpr?
thin wren
where's rejuv
glossy token
the dmg output potential of these two just seems like it would be worth the time
oh so you do want rejuv?
crude sandal
Rejuvenate and TSR1 are important on Ash
thin wren
the dmg output potential of these two just seems like it would be worth the time
the dmg output is nothing lmao
what's it?a mere 40k?
crude sandal
If you get lucky on para procs/Aqua Tail misses, you can get over 3M+
glossy token
im not very good at using the pomatools dmg calculator but
thin wren
are you calcing in team builder section?
glossy token
no
thin wren
you should
zenith jolt
So I’m deserperate about the Dragon Stage I have no clue about how to make 3.7M so far
glossy token
176 base power on 527 spatk, +6spatk, -2 rebuff, +35% from kanto spirit w/ blue, +however much from ash's passion
thin wren
pretty sure passion is the one applying the bp increase to 176
glossy token
oh its already factored in?
glossy token
gotcha, i thought they applied post-facto
civic island
the dmg output potential of these two just seems like it would be worth the time
Without going too much on details/calcs you can simply check the move BP
Remember to set 6 gauges
thin wren
Without going too much on details/calcs you can simply check the move BP
Remembe...
hell is calcing thunder iirc
delicate junco
earlier someone told me to replce rejuv for TSR1
to have 2 SEUNs
its how i cracked my first 1 mil
NGL is REALLY SLOW but as long as you use it for sync and buddy in the last minute it should be fine
dry whale
So I did something funny
thin wren
thunder is really inoptimal either way
delicate junco
its not for thunder
thin wren
did you use tsr or rejuv for your ash 3.7 mil?@dry whale
zenith jolt
So I did something funny
If the sync takes the type weak ahh
delicate junco
you basically just want to sync and a last second buddy move que
dry whale
did you use tsr or rejuv for your ash 3.7 mil?<@434861106708873237>
Trainer sync redemption yes, rejuvenate no
thin wren
Trainer sync redemption yes, rejuvenate no
think you could get 4 mil?
I am a bit surprised that Ash didn't get 4 mil
also you didn't click regular thunder at all right?
dry whale
think you could get 4 mil?
I did not get the mind games on the run so it should go higher but I don't know by how much
No thunder
glossy token
ok so wrt setting the team builder up to use that dmg calc
does this mostly look right
thin wren
I did not get the mind games on the run so it should go higher but I don't know ...
@glossy token the 3.7 mil guy didn't use thunder
dry whale
thin wren
i thought we only had a 2.2
bruh, ash isn't that washed
glossy token
yeah thats why i was so baffled we were having this discussion!!
bc it seemed like people were saying well of course ash is only 2mil to hau 4-5 he has no exr et all
civic island
i thought we only had a 2.2
With no rng you can get to 3M
Just sync all the way out
glossy token
and that just seemed like
patently disprovable
ok
im caught up now, apologies yall
thin wren
pretty sure hau still gets more with equal rng even if Ash had field or tech exr
pallid girder
Hau is now 5.5M. I rly hope him getting into 6M club too.
thin wren
(assuming all syncs crit)
oh that's current ash score multiplied by 1.5 I think
so hau definitely would have beaten Ash
fallen trail
nice
crude sandal
oh that's current ash score multiplied by 1.5 I think
If Ash does have tech EXR, you also have to account for the extra offensive stats
fallen trail
i could optimize by putting sp3 on blue but thats excessive
+20 sp atk for tech exr
crude sandal
5.5M is with 5/5 Hau right?
thin wren
huh, that's lower than I thought
crude sandal
Pretty sure it is
glossy token
ok this might be exceptionally stupid but
crude sandal
BTW, does the 3.7M clear with Ash have him at 5/5 or 3/5?
civic island
Tech exr Ash means 50% on batman score can top the current leadeboard
glossy token
is there either an electric type or a kanto region spammer
thin wren
3
crude sandal
Tech exr Ash means 50% on batman score can top the current leadeboard
Isn't it more because of extra stats?
thin wren
Tech exr Ash means 50% on batman score can top the current leadeboard
isn't it 5.5 mil?
fallen trail
this is all conjecture anyways bc we all know ash is never getting exr
crude sandal
isn't it 5.5 mil?
3.7M * 1.5= 5.55M
thin wren
is there either an electric type or a kanto region spammer
master passives don't affect syncs
glossy token
arguably bp surge has both kanto and electric but
no but they do affect buddy move
im also looking at theme skills
for +spatk
thin wren
this is all conjecture anyways bc we all know ash is never getting exr <:Tabitha...
another reason I predicted hau over Ash, ash compresses nothing
batman got 1 mil on b move
crude sandal
Actually, it doesn't work that way
thin wren
So the move boost isn't relevant
pallid girder
It's the 1st day. Don't be so impatient.
We don't know if Hau is alr hitting his cap or can be improved after few days.
thin wren
I am gonna assume 5.5 mim had all syncs crit
crude sandal
Ash will get 4M+ with tech EXR, maybe 5M if lucky, but no way he's gonna beat Hau
thin wren
he's not getting 5 mil without tech exr
ivory kestrel
thin wren
I think he'd most likely get support tho
thin wren
bad gears? no crits?
crude sandal
I think he'd most likely get support tho
Support to someone who has 2 endures and 2 damage guards? Sure
thin wren
Support to someone who has 2 endures and 2 damage guards? Sure
Marnie and emmet moment
crude sandal
Marnie makes somewhat sense because of her B Move
thin wren
All bulky strikers except lyss(because ofc he didn't get the optimal role) support
*base lys
healing also seems to mean support to Dena (scadaman)
ivory kestrel
bad gears? no crits?
Maybe i shouldnt have synced with Melony. I went Melony > NC Blue > Hau
thin wren
actually is power plant even optimal
ivory kestrel
Yeah i had powerplant on.
crude sandal
So assuming Ash gets tech EXR, the best score would be like this:
3.7M (Total) - 1M (B Move) = 2.7M
2.7M (Total w/o B Move) * 1.5 (Tech EXR) = 4.05M
4.05M (Total with EXR) + 1M (B Move) = 5.05M
And that's not even accounting the extra EXR stats yet
pallid girder
The biggest disappointment of SS Hau's grid is he can't pick Team Altered Field Dodge 9 while picking all sync tiles + Power Plant.
vernal condor
we just need more energy
pallid girder
Team eva buffs would 100% makes him WAY better in dc even if Ash get tech/support exr one day.
civic island
So assuming Ash gets tech EXR, the best score would be like this:
3.7M (Total) -...
He's syncing only
crude sandal
He's syncing only
?
crude sandal
Well, we just hope DeNA can get permission for him to rerun
sharp roost
Only for EoS
civic island
?
He said he's not using thunders/bmove #1255888121648644197 message
just sync
So tech exr would be a flat x1.5 to his score
fallen trail
they didnt even wanna give players a 1 in a million chance of getting him off daily
civic island
And that's pretty much what has been calced
Thunders are taking too much
crude sandal
He said he's not using thunders/bmove https://discord.com/channels/5831202597086...
Ah, so it's just directly 5.55M + bonus damage from tech EXR stats
civic island
Exactly (but account the extra stats for blue sync maybe)
pallid girder
He said no regular thunder, but he didnt say no bmove tho?
cedar cloak
Guys, for support buffs. Can you still get 2x buff if you sync twice on the same support? Or it has to be two different support syncs
crude sandal
I'm gonna calc the difference between with and without tech EXR
Gonna use Alt Selene
brisk shale
Guys, for support buffs. Can you still get 2x buff if you sync twice on the same...
Sprint, field and support ex effects only activate once, at the first time they sync
cedar cloak
Ohh alright
pallid girder
Inb4 he finally reruns but get sprint ex
civic island
He said no regular thunder, but he didnt say no bmove tho?
True so I misread that
Hope we get the video of it
dry whale
I'll try again later, see if I can get the mind games and the triple para and all the crits. Second tought , I think i got very lucky to get the run I did early on
crude sandal
So the stats for the tech EXR is about a 3% increase in damage for the sync
Between 3-4%
crude sandal
He said he's not using thunders/bmove https://discord.com/channels/5831202597086...
Don't mind me, just coping
Which means, tech EXR Ash would've gotten up to 5.772M score
If what Trope said was true
That the guy who scored 3.7M with Ash only synced with him and never touched his B Move
Actually I'm dumb
I realized I could use gear instead as a template for EXR
civic island
If what Trope said was true
I probably misread the bmove part
But basing on what I got with only syncs and no miss/para
#1255888121648644197 message
One extra sync means getting around that
I was abt 10s away, if 3 miss is abt 5s each maybe 25s should be enough
Gonna give a try
crude sandal
One final calc for me
crude sandal
+pins
wispy pagodaBOT
golden crater
Bruhhhhh
You gotta go into setting for pins now
Why discord why 
This change feels like it happened overnight
pliant pebble
Considering no Hau or Piers I think that's pretty good
sharp roost
Uh somehow my Hau was 4/5, but damn the Fairy zone Special ⬆️ tile is very important IG…
olive panther
Any tips for fairy or dragon? I tried with Ryuki and was unable to score higher.
golden crater
Wouldn't Palentines sharena/Whimsicott be a good unit this type of thing with stun spore and go viral?
vernal condor
gloria alt is now longest
can't wait for her to get strike (it fits her football theme but it sucks on her specifically)
west creek
I'd really want field on her
It would be so good
And for this reason, it will never happen
dry whale
I got the video, sadly apparently the B move is a damage roll and not guaranteed, I gotten as low as 897 and as high as 997.
Normally I also track my highest syncs so I know the theoretically peak I can achieve but I did not, still I can always go back and try again.
For know I say 4 million is a maybe
west creek
yea i love her shes great
I'd really want to use her in the Fire DC 3v1, but sadly I have Moltres, the better option
I can do more tries, sure
brisk shale
I got the video, sadly apparently the B move is a damage roll and not guaranteed...
You can calc whats the max roll for your sync in pomatools
lusty galleon
I got the video, sadly apparently the B move is a damage roll and not guaranteed...
if you give me the scenario (with gear), I can calculate the damage outputs and give you what'd be the max
sharp roost
4/5 Hau vs 3/5 Ash?
dry whale
if you give me the scenario (with gear), I can calculate the damage outputs and ...
Triple paralysis, mind games triggered , so opponent is at -3 so def and Ash is at +3 so atk up and super effective up.
Video is on the way.
true locust
Triple paralysis, mind games triggered , so opponent is at -3 so def and Ash is ...
You need get special attack up too 100 whit same pasive
Then 4 is easy
civic island
That's cool 
fallen trail
can't wait for her to get strike (it fits her football theme but it sucks on her...
tbh she would go insane w c leaf if strike exr
not that i have c leaf
vernal condor
she would
chilly sierra
That's cool <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315>
We in
I am never redoing this stage btw 💀
cedar cloak
Heaviest rng stage fr
dry whale
@civic island @thin wren @pallid girder @vernal condor
Here is the Ash vid
vernal condor
could you upload it on youtube? or a google drive or smth, streamable links are temporary
dry whale
Sure I'll do it a bit later. Repost it again
lapis yarrow
Prob could do better but only the 2nd time I've reached over 1mil
lapis yarrow
Need steven mp refresh
I just did another run.. Got 200k more..I'm happy with that.
brisk shale
Arc Cynthia 5m is making me insane
vernal condor
true locust
Poor courtney😜
lapis yarrow
For super up next for all off red sync
Just tried this and got a NEW personal best score. Thank you so much!
true locust
No problem;)
lapis yarrow
Now just wondering if I wanna put in the effort to work on these crap scores lol
vernal condor
the rewards are worth it
lapis yarrow
the rewards are worth it
just need over 1 mil total right?
vernal condor
yes
normal parcel
No, the B move pretty much hits the million. 997k was the number on a test run I...
Ok so 10 smun was super overkill
cedar cloak
<@380836155957968899> <@847330040039342100> <@881415086089060372> <@293075173136...
Amazing run. 💯
valid radish
what do you mean blue is not a striker
vernal condor
yeah he got 1.5m
valid radish
where
lapis yarrow
What are some non Gladion team comps to work against AS Cynthia in SS DC? The DC doc shows incorrect teams for another DC.
valid radish
with the better spam strat <:GladionSip:1208936502399344650>
yeah but i dont have her 6ex
vernal condor
What are some non Gladion team comps to work against AS Cynthia in SS DC? The D...
wdym incorrect teams
it's not the same stage but the strats work the same
lapis yarrow
it's not the same stage but the strats work the same
I tried using one of BP Valerie comps and she dies..so not sure what to do.
delicate junco
huh, first time for everything i guess
didnt think someone as big on Poma as this guy would not know about this mode o3o
vernal condor
he took big breaks from the game
vernal condor
I tried using one of BP Valerie comps and she dies..so not sure what to do.
what team are you using
valid radish
has anyone used piers yet?
fallen trail
poce just now discovered damage challenge?
thick stump
has anyone used piers yet?
probably not
what having a sync tile locked behind 5/5 does to a mf
civic island
<@380836155957968899> <@847330040039342100> <@881415086089060372> <@293075173136...
Thank you, got mine! Abit lower gears but still do the job
true locust
I did piers
vernal condor
(skinny used basically every electric pair lmao)
valid radish
true locust
2,7m@did piers
lusty galleon
yeah, I figured out using SEUN -> Sync was better than SEUN BMove
thick stump
all piers really has going for him is support ex tbh
394 sp atk w/ 4 sync tiles + 150% total multipliers
vs
553 sp atk w/ 4 sync tiles + 160% total multipliers
true locust
Piers would be ok if second sync bost was not on poison zone
thick stump
oh and self elec terrain nvm that probably bumps him up a bit more
true locust
Set poison zone take forever
lusty galleon
It's a bit better, I kept using before and got a bit more
with Ash?
thick stump
yea..
lusty galleon
a x1.5 that increases 3 damage outputs is better than a x1.5 in a x4.5 -> x5 increase
still, that run can be "optimized for more damage" if anything...
but still, Ash had a x1.3 more damage on syncs lol
that gear really pushed hard
boreal warren
fairy is max, ground I would need 2-3 para on eq to get 2nd b move which I am not resetting for, dragon needs more might grab lucas
lapis yarrow
Can anyone guide me on what I'm doing wrong? I synced with both Redlax and Melony before only 1 AS Cynthia sync
boreal warren
you use red for paralysis?
lapis yarrow
you use red for paralysis?
What do you mean? Using Body Slam?
thick stump
Your cynthia being non ex already hinders her a good bit
boreal warren
What do you mean? Using Body Slam?
yes
you should be able to get at least 2 cynthia syncs I would think
lapis yarrow
Your cynthia being non ex already hinders her a good bit
oh yeah I gotta EX her..will do that now!
boreal warren
but red has very slow speed
so melony might not be able to spam at some point
run out of move gauge
safe prawn
Fuuuuu
I got the forbidden miss but I guess I have to move stacks to the previous b move
dry whale
yeah, I figured out using SEUN -> Sync was better than SEUN BMove
I was actually thinking about that, was gonna do some testing later. Good to know my hunch was right
fluid anvil
Peak is 6,6m-7m
did someone actually get that 6,6-7M score or you just thinking its possible ?
true locust
I got 6,6m:) but my damage not work so got 1m less. So if have better gears can be more even.
safe prawn
It happened
rare apex
true locust
It happened <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
You need focus on drop spe def -6🧐
royal jolt
Mandatory SST Red run
safe prawn
3.64
safe prawn
Yes
glossy token
got no elesa mpr but its over 500k thats my threshold
cedar cloak
Oh wow ty.
glossy token
i think even with mpr that might be non-optimal? i wonder if i can move those orbs to somewhere else
bc shes already at +3 crit
aha! it worked!
also wondering if perhaps being +6speed all around is enough that colress doesnt need infliction freebie? but i feel like he probably does
thick stump
2 gauge move so he most likely does
glossy token
gonna try with this instead of going for mpr; will keep colress the same
cloud timber
+6 speed is not enough for 2 bars no, even that with one zone accel passive and mga and ss cyrus delay on debuffs can be not enough
needs a whole lot
glossy token
gotcha, ty
fluid anvil
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
https://streamable.com/l6fwkb
glossy token
ok yeah elesa tm is overall timeloss
fluid anvil
only recorded the score screen, not the whole run
fluid anvil
But basically 1-2 para procs + 2 TMs + good gears = 6.17M .. although I think this was even a low-ish roll maybe, was hoping to get 6,3-6,4M+
my gears are 37% sync dmg, although total Atk from gear is only 50
cloud timber
also wondering if perhaps being +6speed all around is enough that colress doesnt...
yea tested with larry and even with +6 spe and mga the whole time colress is still running out of gauge frequently
glossy token
appreciate the testing!!
vernal condor
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315> <:Barr...
Streamable 
upload that on ytb smh smh
vernal condor
also bro in your submission you linked a discord message, not even the file 
only people on the server would be able to see it
and yeah it'd be better on a drive anyway
glossy token
oh rip i thought i linked the file, mb
my apologies
i'll re-record with the non-elesa tm version to resub
cloud timber
yea tested with larry and even with +6 spe and mga the whole time colress is sti...
can even mix in as steven's gaugeless iron heads to help but it's still a struggle to reach just 5 syncs (though i leave my as steven at lv 100 so you can get more speed)
glossy token
also quick q related to a potential gear thing: how long does potion animation take?
vernal condor
0 if it's on someone w/ full health
glossy token
if its to get someone back to full for unscathed
vernal condor
ew
vernal condor
unscathed in unreliable af bc you keep losing hp
cloud timber
yea
zenith jolt
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315> <:Barr...
Lmao gg
glossy token
yeah, im trying to think if theres a yoptimal point for which to time the potion if the animation time might be worth it or just nah all around
thick stump
yeah and syncs and aoes are kinda unavoidable
glossy token
also this one being air cutter heat wave
thick stump
yea 💀
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like i dont think its optimal
but if the animation were potentially quick enough to sneak in between the heat wave and the air cutter
4% is 4%
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS <:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315> <:Barr...
woah congrats! cynthia running sp3 lucky skill?
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woah congrats! cynthia running sp3 lucky skill?
WW3 actually. No free slots for SP3 or for her custom SB4 cookie, I need those slots for UB stuffs 😛
but WW3 vs SP3 only affects the first sand-less sync, its very minor difference
Sand Blaster 4 is best, assuming it works
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ok so
the animation is too long to sneak in
however
just para the air cutter B]
then you get 2 syncs at 100%
bc after ac its facade aqua tail
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WW3 actually. No free slots for SP3 or for her custom SB4 cookie, I need those s...
ohh good tips! ty 🙏
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now if only i had uh. actually hit the record button
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skyla has fanfare 2 on sync + was already ex, so she can get skyla to +6 with 1 mpr. elesa gets the passive stat buffs from theme skills with triple unova w/ colress and gym leader/undella town from having skyla. colress gets up triple para asap + 3x screech for maximum sync value, then is our spammer
given that we're not using elesa's mpr anymore tho i can check if i have a better option
but this is like
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ok but don't you have the pairs for the 1m clear? or you're just having fun
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my elio is only 2/5 ex, not 5/5 ex
so unless i waste a candy on a genpool pair i cant get the sparkling aria def drops
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I think you can still use that team, just you won't get +6 Speed
2 elesa TM bring you to +4 and Elio's got +1, so that's still fine
you should try using it and see what you get, but I think you'll get a better score than this 645k
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what can I use for Arc suit Steven super sparring if I don't have AS Cynthia atm?
@icy pendant you got anything?
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courtney should get 1m
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courtney should get 1m
how about a 5/5 variety Giovanni?
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what grounds do you have? courtney like maelmc said of the genpool is solid, but if you have other non-genpool ground pairs
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that should work too
his main issue is he needs sand tho
you can run this
w/ sleep strat
run sand shelter on your sleeper, and use earthquake just before your 1st sync
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These what I have atm
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use your tm on giovanni before your 1st and 3rd sync
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oh god wrong repy
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These what I have atm
you could use like any of those
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Also 5/5 lodge rika but no ex
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special moves have reduced power anyway
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nc blue melony v gio should get 1m somewhat easily
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you could use like any of those
I was gonna choose Maxie and was about to give him tech exr but I'm like 2 tech coin short for a cake
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there is an exr rika + cynthia strat using rika as first sync for support + set ground zone but
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maxie wont do sht here ngl
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sygna giovanni is probably the highest scorer tho
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<@421145902208778242> you got anything?
I got arc cynthia and that's about it bestie sorry
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Dont you hate it when they have heat wave?
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If only I had 3/5 SC Lyra for ground debuff and viability
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I think she was in that scout with SC selene right?
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bro stop
do you have nc blue
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Too bad, I got 3 and 4 stars
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bro stop
do you have nc blue
Uhh yes
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blue melony vgio
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blue melony vgio
That'll reach 1M?
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it should
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So I sync with melony first or blue?
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My Meloetta got burned 
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sync with blue -> melony (or the opposite doesnt matter) -> all vgio
before your first sync with gio you use his b move and then his TM on himself
and give melony sand shelter
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you can run this
with this grid
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@icy pendant this is what I'm suffering on
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please tell me you pulled on that banner with a paid pity saved at least
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you should try using it and see what you get, but I think you'll get a better sc...
yeah without these 3 tiles you lose too much other time to setup (elesa's tm takes a hot minute) and dont get nearly good enough returns
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No copies 
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i can record it if you want me to but
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rip
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that was part of why i wanted to record/submit
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Wait what?
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please tell me you pulled on that banner with a paid pity saved at least
I'm at uhh 363/500
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was if other people were in incomplete grid-suffering hell
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Pulled in paid banner without pity?
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pulled on the paid banner period??
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I need to get money to finish the pity, low atm
Need like 12.6K
To pity
So yeah
If I can get some tasks in my remote job that pays decent, can probably pity
Depends though on the pay rate
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~~pulled on the paid banner period??~~
Fair but I needed to save my f2p gems for lear
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change in lucky skill +200k to ground
