Damage Challenge

[icy pendant]

agh can my gladion miss already?!

[true locust]

Haha this is hard part off it

[normal parcel]

Defend order

[true locust]

10%

[icy pendant]

and I only have 3/5 wally so he's slowing me down a bunch

[true locust]

You have penny?

[icy pendant]

yes 5/5

[scenic crow]

ok

[true locust]

Then you have 3 rebuffs

[scenic crow]

respect

[true locust]

Thanks you did good too😁

[icy pendant]

yeah the rebuffs are good, first sync is not though

[true locust]

Did not expect end 1 since my goal was top3;) but is always nice now can lazzy around haha

[icy pendant]

3/5 you have to pick between head start and adrenaline so I have an extra dud turn before my first sync

[true locust]

Can you stream your run?

So i can watch and give advice🤣

[icy pendant]

yeah I can, let me get it set up

[true locust]

Plus you need always reset for 1 fleur miss

2 is not need at all

[icy pendant]

right right, even back in unranked though I didn't clear 4 million with this so I could be close, I could not be

@true locust live in stream room channel

[true locust]

Ok

[thick stump]

lance goated

[fluid anvil]

@true locust can you please post screenshot of your scores (only scores, not teams)
I need to update this and you have the top scores on Gladion and Cynthia
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=78541076#gid=78541076

[lethal siren]

Can nc red do like dahlia

[fluid anvil]

no

[normal parcel]

Nc red is base strike and doesn't have ice zone in his kit

[civic island]

Ty @latent plover worked smoothly
Just missed the first sync crit

[safe prawn]

When does ranked events end?

[frail owl]

sep 8th

[icy pendant]

thanks Adam for the coaching on Gladion, only took me 2 hours to get the double miss but I’m in the 10 million club now

[vernal condor]

Wouldnt Aaron be better on that 2nd team

[icy pendant]

yes but mine isn't ex

[vernal condor]

Wouldnt you EX him

[icy pendant]

my trainer in pasio, I literally have 0 spirits

[vernal condor]

Whale issue

[icy pendant]

tomorrow I revisit lance with EX aaron and ignore EXing for high score

[desert fox]

Cs on next reset np

[vernal condor]

Who cares about trash score anyway

[torpid wigeon]

who would be the best 3rd for the dragon stage to go with aaron and 3/5 lance? sc steven/nate/red/lucas

[safe prawn]

I feel u

[icy pendant]

the spirit situation is so bad over here that I had to do 5 of the 1:1 powerup to spirit exchanges yesterday just so I had enough to ex lance after doing the 1:10 exchanges today

which because I wanted to ex him at launch was tragic but a necessary sacrifice

[icy pendant]

move level on steven?

[torpid wigeon]

do people who are low on spirits just not do cs regularly/with many parameters? i never really had a struggle it was always just powerups for me

[torpid wigeon]

2/5 steven, 1/5 red, 3/5 nate, 4/5 lucas

[icy pendant]

I've cleared 15k every week since they upped the cap

[torpid wigeon]

oh damn

[glossy token]

i dont care how mad the 359.9 makes me im not resetting that shit any more

at least i finally got back past 340

[torpid wigeon]

ig unless people are massive whales 😭 but i have 182 ex pairs and enough spirits to get 75 more

[icy pendant]

ooh uh my gut is telling me one of steven or lucas but that's a level of optimization beyond anything I've thought about

[torpid wigeon]

yeah okay ty

[icy pendant]

so I'm right there with you tbh

[glossy token]

i do csmm every week to 8-9k depending on how well i can counter the given stages, but even then you get to a bit of a deficit playing catch-up

[torpid wigeon]

I can test ig - if red gives me an extra sync I should prob do him but steven will give slightly more damage with the 3rd rebuff

[glossy token]

i still have 4* and 5* units to use my 5* powerups on rather than trading them for champ spirits

[torpid wigeon]

yeah tbf ik it's not really advised but I haven't been trading my 4* powerups up for a while because I want to get everyone to 5*

[icy pendant]

132 ex here, 24 more sitting in the "queue" at 20/20 (archie's been there since before I took a multiple year break from the game, so it really isn't a queue)

[torpid wigeon]

ah okay

[icy pendant]

I am in crippling spirit debt and dena knows they could make money off of me if they were purchasable yet they choose not to

[torpid wigeon]

ig just doing basically every event regularly has given me more than I need

[icy pendant]

there was a time from year 2 to adaman's release where I only played to get ssa cynthia, ash, and ss wally

[torpid wigeon]

except lg because I hate it but I also should do it because I need more deluxe cookies 😭

[glossy token]

im still baffled its not a br point buy

[torpid wigeon]

i still need pinpoint on melony

[glossy token]

that feels way more logical than all the feathers

[torpid wigeon]

i know i should have done skill gear by now but it's so complex i just haven't looked into it

[glossy token]

i went from paying for gems and spending money on a f2p game for the first time for og cynthia when she debuted, hating myself for that, leaving the game, coming back for ssr and ssa, and then a friend told me rika was being added and i am now a healthier (and medicated) human being so i can play responsibly so like. felt

hindsight is 20/20 that i shouldve tried for ash or sst red instead of sitting on the gems until the next cynthia but

[torpid wigeon]

i used to buy daily discounts and stuff but have been fully f2p for probably 2.5 years i'm just spending my last paid gems on this 10 per day banner

[glossy token]

even tho thats just effectively a 5* ticket scout?

[torpid wigeon]

I had less than 100 gems and don't plan to ever get more so why not

[glossy token]

i did one before i realized/checked and now im peeved my paid gem remainder will be 94 instead of 4 when i finish them out 😭

ahh

icic

[torpid wigeon]

down to 35 paid gems now 💪

[glossy token]

yeah i bought $1/1k when i got back and there was one in the shop as well as the one for this anni + $4/3k

so i can treat myself to a select banner

halloween roxanne continues to tempt me since arc cynthia renders sc adaman a worse choice....

[zenith jolt]

4.5M seems to me unbeliveable only managed to do 3.9m so far

[icy pendant]

my run is in the clears sheet if you want to copy 🙂

but also the one right below it doesn't require 4/5

[glossy token]

sygna gladion was on my list for being gender im so glad hes cracked

[torpid wigeon]

yeah I held onto I think 6k and slowly spent it over 2 years then selected steven to go down to basically nothing then immediately regretted it now I don't whatsoever now dc has happened 😭

[zenith jolt]

I’ll Check that, my pain is the Last sync of Cynthia, dosen’t have the time at 1 move Near

[torpid wigeon]

I regret doing the poma day scouts each month instead of just going for a 2nd select but oh well

[glossy token]

sc steven is my most likely pick lmao 🤝 hes such a neat unit

[torpid wigeon]

Yeah that's what I thought at the time he can basically go with any physical unit but then I didn't use him for a while because 2 damage dealers 1 support is basically always better

[glossy token]

sc steven, bp barry, elio, so many underappreciated units that get to shine in dc

[torpid wigeon]

But now he's top tier for dc and I'm having tons of fun with that

[glossy token]

even if i think the timer wrt animations is kinda dumb i really enjoy that its given new life to pairs in that kind of niche

[torpid wigeon]

It's a bit too centralised on units that can skip but I agree it's cool to have a focus on sync countdown & sometimes actually need to care about gauge & the strongest sync and bmove nukers

[normal parcel]

Is Steven better than Aaron? Won't psychic terrain just slow things down?

Or is some speed form shenanigans?

Isn't double team quite slow however?

[torpid wigeon]

I assume he's slightly slower than aaron but has the support ex role while their aaron isn't EXed yet

So ig maybe slightly better overall?

[normal parcel]

Ah if Aaron isn't exd I guess it will work

[torpid wigeon]

Yeah exactly I think just making use of what they have

[normal parcel]

However with Aaron is quite tight, and he needs only 5 defense order, and no psychic terrain

However if someone is willing to reset for 2hours just to get 2 10% misses, I guess may as well 6ex Aaron

[torpid wigeon]

I don't know whether I have the mental fortitude to go all out on gladion 😭

If you complete all 3 then reset 1 do you still keep the first combined score?

[normal parcel]

Nha I don't even have the proper teammates, fishing for the miss will definitely help my score but I'm not willing to do it

[torpid wigeon]

I don't have penny but I can do red/gladion/wally

[normal parcel]

Yes but to improve your score you have to redo the battle

I did NC Rosa gladion bede

[torpid wigeon]

Yeah okay so I'll just get a "good enough" fairy run then after I do the others come back

[normal parcel]

Don't have penny at all and my wally is 1/5

[torpid wigeon]

Same but I still think wally would be worth using

[normal parcel]

Don't think is much worth without Rolex and 1/5

[torpid wigeon]

Ah okay

[dry trellis]

Any big score optimizations I'm overlooking that don't involve arc pairs, 5/5 penny, or cracked skill gears?

don't think I can meaningfully push much more without the arc pairs but

[normal parcel]

I mean unironically I need Bede for the confusion, because this way I can spam teeter dance without ever seeing that long animation

[torpid wigeon]

That's fair actually if you don't have any alternative to rosa

[normal parcel]

I guess maybe the good old Barry, but Rosa gives some smun stacks

However I can't really use them for second b move because I can only get them early in aria form

[torpid wigeon]

I think you want to always avoid using rosa's b move - it's nice to get the support sprint sync but even 1 use takes up so much time

[normal parcel]

In regular I could have fit a relic song to swap back to aria, but in ranked they are too fast and since I can't quad , I won't be able to use the b move if I use relic song

[normal parcel]

Depends if you have the time to do it, in regular I have the time, In ranked not

[torpid wigeon]

Yeah that's true if you can not lose a sync over it then sure

[normal parcel]

I can still get the 4 smun but for 1st b move

Still better than nothing

However I'm waiting for tomorrow to get the strike Rolex coin from daily rotation to upgrade Cynthia

[torpid wigeon]

Oh i just realised rolex means ex role 💀

[pastel bone]

any super sparring teams for ground without arc cynthia?

that can reach 1M

[true locust]

Fall roxane gios

[zenith jolt]

Ok so this is my highest so far, trying to surpass 11M
However, I think I’m safe for the Master 100, maybe Master 20 this time

[icy pendant]

I don't think top 20 is secured until at least 11 million, but top 100 definitely

[zenith jolt]

Yeah top 20 will moove a lot that’s sure

[icy pendant]

but I'm right there with you, until I improve my Lance clear

[zenith jolt]

But I don’t see other Better optimisation for these runs, so 11M like you said probably be the common top 20 spot

[zenith jolt]

Yeah I saw that, we’re just 2 places apart !

[icy pendant]

11 definitely possible with good teams and decent skill gear, anything else seems like it'll be a skill gear optimization I can't be bothered to do

[zenith jolt]

Maybe some will have god luck run and break the scores but a very few like the first Bug where de 1st two had 1M of difference

[swift pulsar]

Can Lance do these numbers at 1/5

[safe prawn]

Nope

[icy pendant]

Lance requires at least 4/5 for big numbers, you can get around the third stage of rebuff or just not care about it if you don't have 5/5 but relentless is a huge jump

[heavy marsh]

BP Valerie keeps dying against Cynthia, rip

[cloud timber]

1/5 lance is good as enabler + b move damage but not for syncs

lance dps goes to 1.1m from what i could manage

second sync was lance, rest were lucas

idk what outnukes 1/5 lance for sure besides 3/5 lucas and nate but it's possible there are a bunch of others

[plucky wave]

Any way I could improve my challenge arc suit Steven score?

[plucky wave]

Hey good stuff man I also used that same team but my Lucas is a bit worse than yours hahah

[cloud timber]

make sure you're using this grid and have catalyst and full bracing infliction on aaron

+2e but you don't need bottom left speed tile

reset for 1 or 2 x speed mprs at the start

[plucky wave]

Is your Lucas caked?

[cloud timber]

yeah

[plucky wave]

Ahhh yeah mine isn't

He'd be better with support role but idk about doing that just for damage challenge yk lol

[plucky wave]

Oh so you're syncing first with Aaron?

[cloud timber]

yeah

[plucky wave]

I synced first with lance to get the second dragon rebuff and then all Lucas syncs from there

[cloud timber]

caked lucas is also really helpful for rally if you're lacking in tech/supports

[plucky wave]

The catalyst node def seems helpful I didn't even think about that, cuz there are some very minor gauge issues

I don't know if it makes that big of a difference though

[cloud timber]

always do your support exes first

[plucky wave]

True but I have a bunch of tech/supports already and I want to make sure I save a support cake for someone who could maybe utilize it better

I really appreciate all the tips though

[cloud timber]

got it, won't need to cake lucas then

[plucky wave]

Is it worth syncing with lance at all then?

[cloud timber]

the rebuff is worth it

[plucky wave]

So you did Aaron lance then all Lucas syncs from there yes

[cloud timber]

yea

[plucky wave]

Was that like two or three Lucas syncs

Alright cool thanks again

I might take another crack at it

[cloud timber]

should have been 3 i'm guessing

[plucky wave]

How was your other one, the ground weak one

Who did you have for that?

[cloud timber]

oh also i hyper beamed at start and had aaron provide smun with full health heal order right after

[plucky wave]

Good looks bro thank you 🙏

[cloud timber]

could def be better but too lazy to grind out more lol

think i was missing an extra sync with wally by 1 turn too so i could run hs1/adrenaline on nc blue

[teal harness]

after bianca, it'll finally be sst red time to shine

[cloud timber]

won't perform as well as usual unfort when his bmove takes like 30 seconds per use

and cakewalk is difficult to set up

could be running ss cyrus with nc blue to compress cd spam and debuffs

[teal harness]

this diantha build gets the target's speed to -6 just with one rock tomb

I'll try sst red, barry and ss diantha, no def drop, but it is what it is

[cloud timber]

yeah def debuffs are more often than not more trouble than they're worth

you take bp barry's support ex for sure

[teal harness]

yup

[teal harness]

if red had relentless on his grid like dojo gloria, then it would be a different situation

[cloud timber]

yep

wait shocking slowdown isn't tied to sstr's b move so you could just let him set it up

with tshocks

[delicate junco]

any tips for the water damage challenge?

ive got a 5/5 6* Kris, so im sure i can probably hit over 1 mil

[cloud timber]

yea

[delicate junco]

but twave spam doesnt seem as effective as it is in a 1 vs 3

[cloud timber]

you still use it

need any rain user and bp barry, colress potentially if that rain user is ss kris

but i couldn't outperform bp barry in my quick tests

tropecham did

[fluid anvil]

There is no way you ever give up NC blues rebuffs .. only if you dont have him at all

[teal harness]

I dont

[fluid anvil]

Then fine

[delicate junco]

this is who im using atm

[teal harness]

after arc cynthia, I'll save for his rerun in december

[delicate junco]

since surge has twave and boosts attack

[fluid anvil]

but yes, SST Red can set up Single-target Cakewalk with 6x Tshocks
...or with 8 if they buff Speed

[teal harness]

kris gave me a lot of trouble getting the freaking last sync, so I just turned the stage into single and did 1mil with dojo gloria

[delicate junco]

wait, turn the stage into single?

[cloud timber]

treat the stage as single since they're using a single target attacker

[teal harness]

yup

[delicate junco]

ahhh

aka dont bother twaving the other guys?

[teal harness]

nope

and since they use x def all, doesnt matter who I hit, I had to use 3 surging strikes to get the def to -6

[fluid anvil]

oh yeah, the 3v1 Electric stage has X Speed All (Uses 1)
RIP kekwalk

[cloud timber]

minor obstacle

[fluid anvil]

every day I thank Arceus that none of my favs have the Cakewalk multiplier

[teal harness]

ss diantha is an awesome help for cakewalkers

[cloud timber]

oh yeah the other really bad thing is sstr applying aoe gradual healing with tm

[fluid anvil]

Elio can fix that

+4 Atk twice

[cloud timber]

guess we're going with that

was blanking on which spammer provides attack

[delicate junco]

is there a world where Hilbert could be a good partner for this?

just remembered that he is 6* so would be able to use the 2x sync buff to help kris out

[cloud timber]

oh i was thinking ss hilbert and for electric which actually would turn out fine if 5/5

sets para without needing to burn max move and rebuff and cakewalk

[delicate junco]

oh im still talking about water challenge for me ^^;

[cloud timber]

hilbert won't be as effective as bp barry plus rain user no

just speeds up kris's setup a little bit and has support ex and provides basically nothing more

[delicate junco]

flinch?

[cloud timber]

not actually useful esp at 40% chance

even if it was 100% i'm not sure it'd still help

[delicate junco]

and is there a reason barry is being over surge in this instance, despite kris being physical?

[cloud timber]

kris handles her own setup fine

barry's tm is more of a last ditch effort to max out spa than anything else

slow and usually irrelevant

[unborn otter]

Does anyone have a grid for 5/5 aslance?

With ground gear

[unborn otter]

What’s your grid for 5/5 aslance?

[teal harness]

I think this is the best aslance sync nuke build

[cloud timber]

was thinking super syncer would be more important than hitting all sync nodes and you could fit in everything with +10 overcap

[glossy atlas]

super syncer is just once though

[cloud timber]

yes

[unborn otter]

So aslance, aaron, and lucas/redlax?

I have 3/5 6e exr ss gladion and 3/5 exr ss wally but my penny is 1/5 no exr

[cloud timber]

i'd prefer lucas

but idk your investment

[zenith jolt]

Made this

[unborn otter]

lucas 4/5, redlax 3/5 exr

i can cake lucas

[cloud timber]

i'd go lucas then

[delicate junco]

okay i got to half a mil with the current set up

what else could i do to squeeze more damage out of kris...

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VY-UqGr4i0 anything here really

[delicate junco]

wow, barry being an ex is truly the difference maker

[cloud timber]

very high priority to ex if you have any interest in doing more dc

[delicate junco]

fuck it, i got some 5*^ to burn

lets get this bread

[rose basalt]

anyone tried mix leaf in water triple?

[fallen trail]

i only have her 1/5

b move animation is probably too slow to be of good use

with dupes and exr she could be good

[rose basalt]

[fluid venture]

My mawile dies from Cynthia.
Would a non-sync spam work with SS Nemona or Gladion ?

[unborn otter]

I have 2/5 sc steven, 3/5 exr redlax, 4/5 lucas as a third for 3/5 6e exr ss gladion, 3/5 exr ss wally for fairy and 5/5 exr aslance for dragon. I plan on caking 3/5 anni raihan for hse. Who should I use as a third for fairy and dragon?

[fluid venture]

https://youtu.be/P6dHvHx_ZnU?si=-254L-WZbSaAZZMp
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=012801028202&s0=4&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFCQodHykrLzAzNQ&v1=011901080100&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=11111&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFERQXGhsiJyksLS8&v2=000000014300&s2=2&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=
From the doc. You just need 4/5 SS Wally and 6e to reproduce the damage but what you have should be enough for good damage.

[pallid dragon]

tips for super sparring vs steven

i have as cynthia and steven how should i be maximizing damage

[copper otter]

Not using as steven and using someone with Super effective up next and a way to sync rush easily

[pallid dragon]

who instead of steven?

[pallid dragon]

^

[copper otter]

Dana, Chase, Melony, BP Barry, Colress or Nc Blue.

Sc Steven or even Paulo for Team sand shelter

The goal is to either use sing to sing fail, or do this.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255888121648644197/1257861161400012890/wb9YPkw.gif

[pallid dragon]

i have colress

[copper otter]

3/5?

[pallid dragon]

no 😦

1/5

[copper otter]

Then won't be able to be done unfortunately

He needs infliction freebie

[pallid dragon]

what is sing to sing fail

sorry im new i dont know a lot

[copper otter]

Paralyze the opponent, then using sing to fail and do the same thing as the gif above

The biggest thing with this mode is using sync moves as your DPS than your actual moves.

[pallid dragon]

oh wow really

is there another way to do it?

[copper otter]

Unfortunately the only other way is dpsing which usually hits around at most 100k.

Whereas sync rushing gets people to 1m+

You can do stall tactics which guarantees 100k

[pallid dragon]

yeah im capping out at around 250k ish

and so sync rushing is just spamming tech moves until u get to sync move?

[copper otter]

No, sync rushing is trying to avoid move animations as much as possible without it stalling in order to get sync as much as possible. There's more info in the pins list of this channel

+pins

[wispy pagoda]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[fluid venture]

754k with mawile. Ground guard as a lucky skill.

[thin wren]

will you reveal your comps after ranked btw

[dry whale]

Decided to get back to doing some water. First I matched Trope and then I experimented.

I do not recommend the Chase run. You don't even start sing spamming till after Greninja syncs. The amount of misses or paras needed sucks.

Pikachu syncs > Greninja syncs. Melony does not sync

6 syncs total

[acoustic chasm]

WTF SHE'S INSANE

[jaunty stratus]

Woah

Who can i substitute for nc blue here

Oh wait is that arc nvm

[delicate junco]

painful: without head start i cant seem to get the final sync i need to cross the mill threshold

stuck at 669k

[cloud timber]

huh i had no trouble reaching 900k without premium lucky skills or skill gear

oh right that was on an ss kris team

i'll rerun it later to check stuff

[delicate junco]

ugggghhh i was able to que my sync but the excadrill of all things qued first

brutal swing hit nd the sync never came 😭

[unique root]

who are people using as spammer on arc lance?

[cloud timber]

aaron, 5/5 oleana

[unique root]

given that he's immune to status conditions and interference

is aaron just defend order?

[cloud timber]

yeah

also lower level oleana which doesn't have twofer but can still get enough gauge somehow

[unique root]

unfortunately i don't have oleana :<

but i can definitely try aaron

[cloud timber]

neither do i

[unique root]

ahahahaha

[cloud timber]

i got 2m off aaron with 1/5 arc lance 5/5 lucas

[unique root]

dang, alright

do you think i should use 1/5 lucas or 1/5 v!lance?

[cloud timber]

depends on third

[unique root]

arc lance

3/5

[cloud timber]

lucas, zone is far more important than third rebuff

[unique root]

gotcha 🫡

what are the multipliers on zone vs rebuff?

[cloud timber]

supposedly 1.5x for zone and i'll have to double check rebuff

1.3x, 1.5x, and 1.6x for one, two, and three stages of rebuff

[hidden fog]

Yep

[cloud timber]

so from two to three it's about 10%

[unique root]

right, gotcha

in that case arc lance's 5/5 grid tile is pretty superfluous as well

although it would be nice to get relentless at 4/5

[hidden fog]

Who do I use as a spammer vs AS Lance if no Oleana?

[brisk shale]

lodge n, aaron i think

[hidden fog]

Spam defend order?

Err

[brisk shale]

calm mind and defense order ye

[hidden fog]

Oh ok

Ty

[cloud timber]

cs2, water gear, and no hs1/adrenaline, even better than my ss kris attempt lol

could have fit in a last mega kick but missed the input

ran on mid speed most of the time

also forgot to use synthesis at the start so i lost time there too

[jolly violet]

1 MP refresh away from 5M 3v3 Ground

[true locust]

Answer is no. On ranked i don’t post nothing same like last time. 🙂

Fish for cynthia mpr:) i see

Did you got sand up befor last sync litten?

[tender patrol]

What is pick for tomorrow dark 3v1? Beside NC Serena of course

[true locust]

Zinnia

[normal parcel]

Zinnia should be the best (if invested)

[jolly violet]

Not sure if my strategy matching yours but my sandstorm would still be up after my last sync.

[normal parcel]

I feel NC Serena will be a bit akward because se has to land an extra brutal swing before every b move

Compared to water weak

[true locust]

You need switch forms plus she need have power play

[normal parcel]

You need to use 2 water shrunkens to unlock b move + a brutal swing to switch back to dark

[cursive linden]

Jesus Christ

[lethal siren]

[dire spade]

Oops, wrong conversation

[fluid anvil]

Hello, please post just the screenshot of the scores, not teams. Only scores, thats all I need to update

[paper anchor]

who would you guys say has aged better, Eusine Suicune, or Lysandre Volcanion

I kinda want one of them for water, but not sure who

I guess honestly dahlia clears both

[rare apex]

probably lysandre but they're both fine imo

lysandre is better for sync whilst eusine is better for dps methinks

hard to say though since my funny suicune man's only 1/5

[normal parcel]

Not sure if I can improve my scores (besides fishing for gladion miss)

[unique abyss]

I suppose you don't have Penny/Wally? Even at 1/5?

[jolly violet]

Arc Cynthia can definitely reach 4-5M with a right strategy.

[fluid anvil]

Arc Cynthia should be getting 4-4,5M consistently without para procs, with decent gears
Ash said he got 5.95M with her, I assume thats with great para procs

[jolly violet]

5.95M is with pretty insane unreal luck.

I'm trying for days and haven't reach 5M yet

[normal parcel]

Penny not even 1/5 wally I have him baseline 1/5 (no exr)

[normal parcel]

A run with minimal RNG how much can get?

But with what teammates?

What's the best strategy with arc Cynthia?

I assume fishing for mpr2 is mandatory

[lethal siren]

I don't have any for dark dc

Single

1/5 Cyrus
Sidney

[normal parcel]

I hate to fish for mpr2

[unborn otter]

What’s the recommended grid for aaron?

[sturdy pebble]

Are there any clears with 1/5 Arc Lance but without Nate?

[jolly violet]

Same team mate. The only different is you use first Cynthia sync without any multiply or stat up

Then set Sandstorm before the next sync and Cynthia TM boost for her last sync

It should have enough time for 4 Cynthia sync and 1 each for C Blue and Melony

[fluid anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EprONzGoq4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7D3QLDtGk

[unborn otter]

Cs2 on gladion and lance with type gear

[limpid orbit]

If you aim for double MPR 2, that's a easy 5M with 5/5 as expected

[latent plover]

Still requires some paralysis procs to be able to sync in time

[fluid anvil]

I have definitely gotten over 4M with no para procs - with only 3 total Cynthia syncs (1 MPR = 2 TMs total) + 1 B-move .. replicated more than once
I do have ~good para/status gears tho, and 5/5

[latent plover]

Even with 3 syncs her sandstorm either runs out too early or I run out of time

[icy pendant]

5/5 cannot 5m without resetting for enemy rng, you do not have time to get a third sync in sand otherwise

(with SEUN on all of them)

[fluid anvil]

I think in at least one of the 4M+ runs I used sandstorm AFTER her 1-st sync .. and also used the 2 TMs on her 2-nd and 3-rd syncs, skipped first
so her 1-st sync was ~low damage, but everything else was max

[long silo]

Regular 3v1 Dark tomorrow huh

[crude sandal]

Who's the best nuker for tomorrow?

SS Cyrus, SC Zinnia or Cerena?

[long silo]

Maybe Cerena?

[crude sandal]

I thought Zinnia nukes harder than Cerena?

Also, how will Cerena complete her attack buff?

[long silo]

I actually don't know how SC Zinnia works lol

[crude sandal]

Also, SC Zinnia for potential evasion cheese strat

[long silo]

But I'm hoping some F2Ps can do it

[crude sandal]

[long silo]

If he reaches 1m then that would be great

[crude sandal]

Actually, funnily enough, the best nukers can't fully buff themselves

SS Cyrus, SC Zinnia and Cerena all can't complete their buffs

Actually SS Cyrus can complete it with NC Blue on the team

[long silo]

Will he have issues with his multiplier with sleep

[crude sandal]

The issue is more on Shared Nightmare

Hmmmm, I'm prolly thinking CCalem/SC Zinnia/Colress

[thin wren]

is tmrw ss cyrus day?

he has seun, dark zone and sing spam

[crude sandal]

No

[thin wren]

does zinnia nuke harder even when cyrus has seun??

[long silo]

I actually want to use Archer but idk I'm doing calcs correctly

Also I think I can't get all the buffs

[crude sandal]

Zinnia has stronger grid multipliers

And also has dark rebuff

[thin wren]

what are her mults again

[pallid girder]

20% SEUN that'll prob only work on 2 syncs at most.

[pallid girder]

Ig ppl would try to make SS Cyrus + SC Zinnia works.

[thin wren]

c calem takes too long. Use something like cyrus zinnia and nc blue or redlax

[crude sandal]

It's only a question of how to manage your gauges

[thin wren]

Didn't the highest aoe dark use Cyrus?

[pallid girder]

Yes but they managed it by spamming NC Marnie's 0 gauge bmove in occasion.

[crude sandal]

IDK, because I wasn't there

[crude sandal]

How will you even complete Zinnia's buffing?

[vernal condor]

How do you setup rising tide

[crude sandal]

Technically with NC Blue

He gives +12 stats

[vernal condor]

Ig

But then you cant use zone

Or seun

[crude sandal]

It's really only a question of how to fully buff her attack

Unless you're willing to do the 1/25 chance with her TM: Randomizer's Raise 9

[icy pendant]

ooh I could try this, I want to work on my Lance score first though since I know that one's improveable but I'll do that after Lance + Cheren improvements

[thin wren]

gambling

I love gambling

[crude sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/gamble-gambling-flipnote-raxdflipnote-gamblecore-gif-728096753915804447

[noble warren]

So Tomorrow is the reset

For damage challenge

[warped gulch]

I plan to use Zinnia with DC Marnie

[noble warren]

How many gems 100?

Right

[warped gulch]

Need 1 Tm mpr from Zinnia herself

[noble warren]

What is the weakness

Tom tow

Tomorrow

[vernal condor]

I think I will do NC Serena SS Cyrus and Red or NC Blue

[warped gulch]

3vs1 Dark

[noble warren]

My dark types are bad

[vernal condor]

Red is probably better

Omw to reset for 2 flag bearer 3 procs

[noble warren]

Is Karen or sidney better for this

[warped gulch]

Reset for 2 Tm mpr

[noble warren]

Damage

[warped gulch]

Sidney

[noble warren]

Not Karen?

Why

[warped gulch]

He is Tech so he is way better for 3vs1

[vivid orchid]

noticed the status immunity animation for the Lance DC is hella long, what's the strat for that one?

[thin wren]

my cyrus is 1/5 so I will use marnie with him and chase. Do you think I can get 1 mil?

[warped gulch]

I dont have Cyrus

But 1/5

[thin wren]

I wish we got more tech candies

I wanna get cheren to 3/5 before cyrus.....

[boreal warren]

Never done a damage challenge before what is my best bet for water? Also got 1/5 dahlia

[warped gulch]

I rather use MR than 1/5 Tech

[warped gulch]

Bc she is Striker ofc, so her Sync definitely lower than Tech

[normal parcel]

Spam defend order with Aron (or cosmic power with lodge n)

[latent plover]

Use Aaron

He can spam defense order with no animation once they're fully buffed

And has catalyst too

[desert fox]

Any high scoring lance clears

I think Lance is what I need to improve

Or Steven I guess

Fishing for para sucks

[vivid orchid]

i see, my aaron is only 1/5 tho, is SS Steven w/ iron defense or cosmic power spam a better alternative or just stick with Aaron?

[thin wren]

aaron is better tbh

also iron defense doesn't work for spam

[vivid orchid]

gotcha

[true locust]

I don’t post nothing. Sorry:)

[true locust]

You need realy alot para for it

Plus if im corect one off side have move wat can miss drill run?

This you need as well

[desert fox]

Yeah he never misses

Give me tips for Lance

[true locust]

One time i got 2 off it

But need para on aoe moves

Not just this

[tender patrol]

I was sure i couldn't do better then I realized I could give lapras sandstorm immunity thanks chat

[pallid girder]

Nemona + Gladion together is a weird choice not gonna lie.

[tender patrol]

I was like "why not both"

[thin wren]

multiple reasons for why not both actually

your fairy score can improve a lot

do you have nc rosa

or ss hau

or Penny

[tender patrol]

I have hau 2/5 and penny 1/5. As Wally is not rolex

Gladion is Rolex, Nemona not

I have to try Hau, it looks promising

[thin wren]

use penny wally ss glad

do you want the strat?

[tender patrol]

It would be great thanks

[jolly violet]

Cynthia can still do even better than that too

[paper anchor]

Should I even bother using Arc Lance 1/5 as main dps, or should I just prioritize 3/5 Lucas

I want to candy him, I’m just scared when these arc fairs will drop and I’m not too keen on spending 2 candies on him.

[latent plover]

What's the strategy for 3/5 Arc Lance? I think he's needed to reach 2 million

[normal parcel]

You mean 3 candies, because arc Lance needs 4/5

5/5 is not needed (but still not negligible) but 4/5 is the bare minimum

[paper anchor]

Yeah. You’re right. I’m just gonna use him as a supporting role. Main dps with Lucas. God I wish I could just use tech candies. So annoying.

[faint quiver]

Only candy them if you are very lacking for that type and the alternative is very far behind which is not the case for Dragon type.

[normal parcel]

I candied him because after costing me full retail price of 45.6k gems thanks to the 500 pity combined with the atrocious 1% rates, I definitely wanted to squeeze the most out of my investment

Probably I would never touch arc suits again (unless maybe is arc alder, since bug types kinda sucks)

However lance at 3/5 isn't a terrible units for offtype, it has paralysis and -6 defenses debuffs

[paper anchor]

I already know I’m going to want to get all 18 so I’m just going to take it slow

I am so tempted to pull the trigger on 3/5 but I’m going to wait. I’m not in dire need of a dragon dps.

I only have enough for 3/5 even though I really want 4

[pastel bone]

dang don't even have that

[sturdy pebble]

What score could I get on Dragon

[primal blade]

what are the odds a 5/5 Akari with +10 grid cap unlocked can get 1mil points in single-target DC tomorrow?

[sturdy pebble]

Forgot image

[dry whale]

I get it, you post something

1. The true Mega Wailords with ultimate skill gear take over.

2. Perhaps revealing the comps show somethings not adding up, an exploit that you don't want revealed.

3. It's just an ego thing with wanting the be first.

Most people won't care cause they know they can't compete with Wailords let alone Mega Wailords with nothing but time.

For me now I think your using known strategies but going deep into RNG, the kind of RNG no sane person wants to deal with.

[warped gulch]

We only asked for score

Not team

You can just capture like this

[true locust]

Guys im not only 1 player in this game:) we have many others too. If i don’t wat do something mean no. Like i told last time after event and i don’t post nothing i have my own reason for it. And i don’t have any ego lol. Plus i don’t even have skill gears like i use befor. So prob many have way better. Don’t need be big spender too need just have certain units its all plus some off them are f2p and you can use them many many time again and again. And me be at 1 place? I less care about it like snow last winter i did not plan push and don’t touch it too end . My score is pure luck its all:) luck is big part off this game. Not just 💳💳 . Game is for fun only. And this dc i have fun for first 2 days now im lazzy around and wait for hse:) if i have ego i would sure spend 2h helping adept improve his score and give him advice:) sure all top player in all ranked event do this:) last hse i did same and help luck whit his top20 push sadly he didn’t make but i cant play for others just give advice rest depend on them:) so you find wrong person for ego:)

[frail owl]

lol I'm sorry but I never seen a p2w player this insecure and I'm not trying to cause a drama but there's nothing wrong with being a whale and spending money to be competitive
if you don't want to share just stop posting and explaining and stuffs, you obviously seeking validation from some players here
it's definitely an ego thing, you blamed some japanese player not that long ago for not sharing comp in HSE because they don't know you and now you're are no 1 in DC of course you don't want to share, but it's a different thing here when most people are at least familiar with each other, most other whales here are chill af and willing to share, discuss....
you keep pushing this narrative that it's all luck when we know you at least have a full 5/5 team with good skill gears, strategies and play skills is another thing. we'll see in the next dc/hse when another player got top 1. No f2p and no kind of luck can push you to top 20 let alone top 3 or 1

and people just asking for score not comp

[rose basalt]

if you arent gonna post anything, why bother talking on here

dudes just stroking it to his own ego

[normal parcel]

Expecially when fairy team wants 3 premium invested units, and ground and dragon wants the new 500 pity arc suits fully invested (maybe Cynthia is fine at 4/5), yes is also a skill game (to some degree) like i saw people getting bad scores with whale units because they just played wrong, but there's no way the god of f2p will beat a whale with a barely decent strategy

[tender patrol]

I managed to get 1.9M with that team thanks

[cursive saddle]

I think I can atleast get 500-600k damage on the super sparring Arc Steven challenge , my roster (Cynthia has EX Role and I have Arc Steven aswell) , Looking for some help

[icy pendant]

oh this Lance team fights for gauge, Aaron needed Speedy Entry 2 and Lance took the Catalyst route to Insult to Injury so I could keep the spam up

any improvement I have left is in the Steven battle using better Cynthia strats, but either way I'm locked for top 100 I feel so the only way I'd push it is if top 20 is actually achievable as I'd rather flex the top 100 LG title over a super sparring one

[lapis yarrow]

Are there any rewards for placing high in this DC or no? I'm struggling finding motivation to try hard at it since seems my team comps don't match those of others of the same 🥸

[icy pendant]

rank is always just a title thing, absolutely get past 1 million across the three clears though

[cursive saddle]

.

[icy pendant]

no 3/5 bp barry?

[lapis yarrow]

Well that's my prob. I try some clears of the dc doc and mine never match up plus I don't have Gladion lol

[icy pendant]

can you send your roster? I'll see what we can do with what you have

[lapis yarrow]

What's the ideal way to show you?

[icy pendant]

tracker screenshot?

[lapis yarrow]

How do I do the tracker?

[icy pendant]

+tracker

[wispy pagoda]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[icy pendant]

then from the left sidebar you can generate an image, save that, and upload it here

[lapis yarrow]

Can this be done on mobile or no?

[icy pendant]

yep, it's in the options menu on mobile

I'd recommend copy/pasting the link into a browser tab if it won't open in a browser app for you, idk how the local storage works when it's opened inside discord but if you need to refer to it again later on then having it from the browser helps a ton

[chilly prawn]

Is this ok for this team?

[icy pendant]

How many syncs did you take with SEUN?

[chilly prawn]

3

[icy pendant]

CS2 or WW3 on Dahlia? and did Rosa sync or not?

[chilly prawn]

Superpowered

Yes rosa sync

[icy pendant]

I'm about 1m higher with the same team (but Melony instead of Rosa), so trying to figure out where that comes from

[chilly prawn]

Maybe the rosa tranform after sync

Is just too slow

[icy pendant]

entirely possible, I hit my last Dahlia sync with a bit over 9 seconds left and I think (Rosa's transform - sprint EXR accel) is still longer than that

[chilly prawn]

Yeah rip

Trying to decide if I want to bother

[icy pendant]

wait no I only take 3 Dahlia syncs too

[cloud timber]

saw people are planning to use nc blue with ss cyrus and another damage dealer, you won't nave the gauge to maintain it without waiting or throwing in attack animations

my third is larry and he will be important for gauge

on top of +6 spe and umbral acceleration

[icy pendant]

that just made me think about dark st tomorrow and then I remembered I have v selene I guess (2/5 ex ss cyrus)

[cloud timber]

though that won't need +6 spe with mga, just that gauge isn't keeping up without mga

[warped gulch]

Did you get SEUN for every Sync ?

Also confusion is really Rng

Sometimes you might need to apply it again

[chilly prawn]

Yep

My syncs have a spread that seems to do

900,000 1.2 1.5

If it went perfectly

[warped gulch]

You have SP3 right ?

[chilly prawn]

Yep

[warped gulch]

3.2m seems low ngl

https://youtu.be/XkZrA4RklCY?si=sPNZDK0mRNHoZ99D

I only got 3 Syncs too

[modest plaza]

I’m trying to get 1kk, but these are my best units, what u guys recommend me to do?

[warped gulch]

900k on 1st Sync is low tho

High chance you missed Crit

[modest plaza]

I got 1 striker candy and 1 exr tech cake

[warped gulch]

My 1st Sync already reached 1.2m with 1 miss crit

[chilly prawn]

It might be gear I have no sync boost gear for dahl

Just max stat

[warped gulch]

Gears cant make a huge difference

My gears isn’t like god level that gives 45% to Sync dmg

https://imgur.com/a/Q5i9gZ2

Total 4% Sync dmg increase

[chilly prawn]

Let me set up lapras and see if that fixes it

Skill / grid on lapras

Headstart?

[warped gulch]

I gave her Pinpoint Entry 2

But anything is good

~~Not name Troublemaker ~~

[chilly prawn]

You want misses though right

[warped gulch]

No

Landing Sing on para enemy is faster than miss tho

[chilly prawn]

Ah

I misread that at some point

[fluid wave]

Is this good enough score for Lance? I haven't exd him yet nor caked. Tips'd be appreciated 👍

[warped gulch]

Hmm, what does Nemona do there ?

Gauge ?

[fluid wave]

Yeah but then I just realized.... Lance moves

Don't even need acceleration

With just two bars lol

[warped gulch]

Do you have any pairs that can give SEUN left ?

[fluid wave]

What is sun

[heavy ore]

question: which damage challenge reward sync pair is the best? I want to redeem one but I can't decide who

[warped gulch]

Super Effective Up Next

[umbral sleet]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | All Pairs (Limited Included) | Supereffective ↑ Next‎

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[fluid wave]

That's unfortunate. Only to himself so no

[warped gulch]

Yeah no

Any Supp EX ?

[fluid wave]

Steven arc only

But he won't be useful

There since Lance gets his buff himself

[cloud timber]

i'd pick between gladion and silver, or those are the only two i own at 3/5 and 2/5

very possible that any of the others could be helping your roster more

[fluid wave]

This should help right?

[modest plaza]

not much

[fluid wave]

Oh wait no his sync is freaking physical

I forgot

Damn

Yeah not much

[cloud timber]

smun and pmun don't affect syncs and his b move is special so it does do something

but lance's b move alone should be doing at least 300k if you use it at the end with proper sync spamming

then again i was using dragon zone

[fluid wave]

Yeah sadly I have no dragon zone

[modest plaza]

can someone help me here, should I use 2 units dealing damage, or 2 support syncs só I can deal more damage? (im trying to get as close to 1kk on ground)

[chilly prawn]

1st try

[fluid wave]

I'll have to wait for event rewards until I get all cookies and investments in to get all that helps

[modest plaza]

damn

[chilly prawn]

Adept/pyu carry ty

[icy pendant]

swap Nita out for BP Barry or Colress if you have either 3/5. Maxie takes all syncs in ground zone

[modest plaza]

I got bp barry

[icy pendant]

3/5?

[cloud timber]

very rare that you want more than one damage dealer if one isn't also providing heavy support to the other

[modest plaza]

should I use my exr cake on maxie?

[icy pendant]

it's certainly going to help with damage, but I don't think you need it for only 1m

[fluid wave]

How many syncs did you get in btw

[icy pendant]

Arc Lance fits 3 syncs after 2 support EX

[cloud timber]

i think it was 5 with aaron defend order but i'll check

[modest plaza]

ok, so I just need to set my buffs and then start using spore with bp barry right?

[lapis yarrow]

How do I get all my pairs on the screen at once?

[fluid wave]

I fit only two in personally

[cloud timber]

and two support exes

[icy pendant]

If you're just using the image button, you save the image file and upload that rather than a screenshot

[fluid wave]

Wow 5 is a LOT.

[icy pendant]

5 is on the low end for modern strats, standard sing spam can sometimes stretch to 7

[fluid wave]

I didn't do the sing strategy

[icy pendant]

aaron defend order/steven cosmic power is capped at 5 because those are longer animations

[fluid wave]

What's the main reason for 2 ex supports

[cloud timber]

more sync buffs and one of them is lucas support exr

[icy pendant]

it ends up being the better damage amplifier, even if like me you don't have lucas (I have redlax though so it kinda evens out)

[fluid wave]

Ahhh

Is one sync buff like 100% or

Like is there specific number that raises strength or attacka

[icy pendant]

one sync buff is +50%, so a support ex contributes +100%

[fluid wave]

So each regular is +50%

Got it

[modest plaza]

it dind't go that well, got 400k

[cloud timber]

yea i was at 7 sync buffs by the end

[icy pendant]

you're setting up your offensive stats on Maxie?

[modest plaza]

yeah, my bp barry is not ex tho

[icy pendant]

Barry also needs Sand Shelter in some way, he's going to be spamming into a sandstorm

[modest plaza]

and most of the damage was dealt by cynthia

[fluid wave]

That's +350% holy

[icy pendant]

Cynthia shouldn't be doing any damage, unless she's EXR then ignore everything I said about Maxie syncing

[modest plaza]

yeah, she is exr

but 1/5

[icy pendant]

that's fine, still a better sync than 1/5 maxie

if you have any form of SEUN, go with Barry/SEUN user/Cynthia

[modest plaza]

I’m going to try this

[modest plaza]

hmm, so im gonna change hilbert to red snorlax right?

[icy pendant]

yes, definitely

[cloud timber]

and the b move i used was 290k so me saying at least 300k was a bit of a stretch

[icy pendant]

with barry charging infliction, speed buffs are useless, and hilbert's attack/crit buffs already are useless

[modest plaza]

what is the cookie tha gives Sand Shelter?

[fluid wave]

So how many sync should my arc Lance pefform as opposed to arc Steven?

[jolly violet]

The yellow one

[icy pendant]

any support should only be syncing once

[modest plaza]

thx

[fluid wave]

Ok once. Preferably in the beginning?

[cloud timber]

always

[fluid wave]

Got it

[icy pendant]

always supports first, your damage dealers want as many sync buffs as they can to amplify their damage

[fluid wave]

So sync w Steven the rest w lance got it

[modest plaza]

should I use cynthia tm at the start, or just ignore it and spam stun spore?

[icy pendant]

also if you're using arc Steven make sure he is not set to the first target

[icy pendant]

with 1/5, use Cynthia TM right before your last sync and no earlier

[jolly violet]

Save Cynthia TM for last sync

[modest plaza]

ok

should I sync with barry, he is not ex

[cloud timber]

why use ss steven in your screenshot when you have arc steven though

[modest plaza]

?

[icy pendant]

not sure which conversation this is a reply to but SS Steven does actually have a good role against Lance this time

[normal parcel]

Does sand blaster 4 impacts a lot compared to ww3 on arc Cynthia?

[cloud timber]

with 100k and 2 syncs they weren't spamming 1 bar cosmic power

[icy pendant]

this is true

[fluid anvil]

not al ot, but it is better - for DC only
its worse outside DC

[icy pendant]

they likely didn't know 1 bar cosmic power was a thing to do

[modest plaza]

https://youtu.be/d01kILMX6Zs?si=8yQBLFzTcfh_htSn

that was my best dmg

but was no good

what should've I done for a better damage

[icy pendant]

tactics are wrong, you set sand way too early (you should only set sand right before cynthia's first sync and as needed for her future ones), and you didn't use redlax's SEUN on Cynthia ever besides turn 1

[fluid wave]

Even my last 4th ült (no support ex sync just Lance) amounted to 29k... Fraction of your b move.😂😭

[modest plaza]

ok

[icy pendant]

you also only need to paralyze 1, I'm pretty sure

so turn 1 should be red using mini potion all for zero animation, bp barry stun sporing mid, and nothing else

[cloud timber]

lance's sync isn't very strong on its own, ideally you can get a different dragon damage dealer to provide stronger syncs

and aaron in third (if you have him with support ex)

[modest plaza]

alright

[cloud timber]

but yea it is expected for each sync to go way lower than his b move

[modest plaza]

got 660k

I think for getting a better dmg it depends on rng

and the sandstorm dont last up to the 3 sync

[icy pendant]

660k is definitely solid, it's probably possible for you to score better on Lance by swapping Serena out for Aaron, bringing a better offensive buffer than SS Blue, and using Defend Order spamming to rush through Iris syncs, but unless you have EX BP Valerie fairy might be difficult for you

[modest plaza]

and dont have her EX

my iris is 1/5 tho

should I really use her?

my aaron is 1/5 aswell

[icy pendant]

aaron just needs to exist to be viable, dragon is a hard type to have good damage on so a tech ex is honestly viable enough

[modest plaza]

alright

these are my dragon units

[icy pendant]

at 1/5 you lose out on the reason to click heal order (as a 0-animation defend order) but clicking 6 defend orders instead isn't that bad

[modest plaza]

should I stick with iris?

[modest plaza]

who should I swap ssblue then?

sorry for asking too much

[icy pendant]

this is where you want hilbert. you want a +4atk/+2crit support, and Hilbert is the only one in that list who can do all of that in one turn as long as you grid TM: Critical Squad 2

he also needs to get hit, which is fine because you can just pop the tm right before Iris's first sync

[modest plaza]

110k was my best damage doing this

[cloud timber]

still doesn't hurt to use full health heal order when it consumes gauge at a time where it's guaranteed to replenish compared to a later on full defense defend order

which is really exactly the same case at 3/5

since you can just start with defend order and it's still 5 animations

without taking into account strengthening heal

[modest plaza]

Getting close

[chilly prawn]

Ground best?

[clear torrent]

nah its just crazy

guy in the vid get 1 mil points because of harderware diff

cuz for some reason his enemys attack like once in a full moon but my opponents attack every time

like wtf

his opponent uses a move after sync after he got like 4 stun spores off

but when i do the exact same things as him in the same situation my opponent uses move after sync instantly

[warped gulch]

You can slow the game tho

[clear torrent]

even at 1 speed its the same xd i swear

[chilly prawn]

Video?

[clear torrent]

the video i watched?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsxBlhkD4xY

this one

[warped gulch]

Can you record your gameplay ?

[chilly prawn]

Thats literally his video^

[warped gulch]

Does your Barry have any Lucky Skill ?

[clear torrent]

what lucky skill should he have

[warped gulch]

HS1 and Adrenaline definitely better than no Ls, but those have some wait makes it sometimes different than the video

HS or Adrenaline 1

[clear torrent]

i dont have the special coockes

cookies

[warped gulch]

No coôkie is ok

That run didnt use it

[icy pendant]

the relevant thing is you don't have tm1 barry right

[clear torrent]

i am doing the same moves like in the video xd

but idk how the enemy pokemon use moves 1 milisecond before me

[warped gulch]

Only para 1 enemy too ?

[clear torrent]

like i be spamming stun spore but somehow excadrill cuts me everytime

yeah i just spam para on gigalith

idk i think my phone is like too slow

[warped gulch]

Play it at x2 speed

Or even x1

[clear torrent]

brother i am playing at 1 speed and they still cut before me

ill try to record it

[warped gulch]

What do you mean cut ?

Sync before Kris ?

[clear torrent]

like they use move before me

[warped gulch]

I dont understand tho

[clear torrent]

like in ur video

[icy pendant]

the exact timing of the move matters a lot less than the total amount of gauge you give them

once they run out of gauge, they can't queue anything, and that's when the real spam starts

if you record, it would be a lot easier to identify anything you're doing incorrectly

[warped gulch]

Early fight ofc they still use move very fast bc they still have gauge

[clear torrent]

oh yeah i have fast track 2 on barry cuz i used like the 3 candies i had to try get headstart, but i didnt make a difference from before when i tried without any lucky skill

i am uploading to yt rn

[cloud timber]

better off with no lucky skill

fast track is making things worse

[icy pendant]

yeah ft2 is just a 30% chance to give them more gauge and slow you down

[clear torrent]

so take off ft2?

[cloud timber]

yea

[warped gulch]

Yep

[modest plaza]

What’s better, a 2/5 ex iris or a 3/5 non ex ryuki?

[copper otter]

Which Iris?

Hydregion Iris or Haxorus Iris?

[icy pendant]

if it's based on your screenshot earlier, I wouldn't candy either

[modest plaza]

Hyedreigon

Ok

[clear torrent]

ok i did it thanks everyone

[acoustic chasm]

Ngl I was expecting the B move to do more damage at end (it had +10 SMUN too)

Her grid is good but the placement of Raging Rain 3 is really unfortunate

[modest plaza]

I got colress 3/5 🙂

[chilly prawn]

This ok?

Lance typo

No coins for a c

[glossy atlas]

do you have colress? nc bianca?

[chilly prawn]

Standard dragon still best here?

[glossy atlas]

quit colress, use aaron, i had forgotten abt no status

does bianca have support exr?

[latent plover]

Without Arc Lance or 3/5 Lucas, Yeah they're the best. But use Aaron instead of Colress

[chilly prawn]

Aaron better than steven?

[copper otter]

If you're referring to Arc steven, yes, Arc Steven is not good in this mode.

Also I would actually recommend SC Steven if they have him

NC Nate can do bonker damage without the use of sync, but he needs his PMUN increased.

2/5 NC Nate btw.

[chilly prawn]

Talking sc having arc lol

[copper otter]

OH

Then yea, SC Steven is much better

With EXR NC Bianca, 3/5 EXR NC Nate and SC Steven with at least 1 tm mpr, can easily hit 1.7-1.9M

[scenic grotto]

SC Steven able to be select scout in 3 reset

Honestly, we are about half way through the first cycle of all Damage Challenge stages and looking at the google sheets of team clears, SC Steven doesn’t appear on it as much as I initially thought it might have

[vernal condor]

because people are using sleep strats now, which he doesnt fit in

if you're still using BP Barry as your main spam, SC Steven is great

[copper otter]

SC Steven is great for other comps as well due to SEUP and PMUN

not just with BP Barry

[scenic grotto]

It does look like Redlax has more use than SC Steven despite not having rebuff debuff and his def debuffs not worth the time waste

[copper otter]

Redlax has Sprint EXR and support EX to make it more useful, but the sync CD makes him slower than usual and actually makes the gauge really slow due to funni snorlax

[clear torrent]

Did anyone try arc lance , how would a run look like with him

[thick holly]

(Nvm i found a way)

[icy pendant]

move level? he isn't exactly impactful as a primary damage source before 4/5

however he can enable a second damage dealer with rebuff

[cedar cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748185934519992451/1280317764065820713/Screenshot_2024-09-03-08-04-20-728_com.dena.a12026418-edit.jpg?ex=66d7a456&is=66d652d6&hm=f2e1c8306c133b9a8282ec80afd74d362d2e8b5a794ad631316e3f606b943a3f&

Hours of trying and couldn't hit 3mil. I have skill issue 😭 anyone here able to guide the steps to breach 3mil? much appreciated

[chilly prawn]

1/5 A cynthia

Pretty average

[fallen trail]

are you using the trick where you use red's potions at full hp

its instant and cuts on sync countdown

so right at the start

[tulip egret]

In the ranked dc, what's the best way to go through sync cooldown fast since you can't spam paralysis

Sing? Burn?

[icy pendant]

[tulip egret]

So Aaron

Thanks

[cedar cloak]

Hm didn't know about this. So I use all of the mini pot during the beginning?

[fallen trail]

just 1 at the start tbh

[icy pendant]

you can sneak a single one in, then red gets hit

[fallen trail]

quick sync countdown

[cedar cloak]

Oh ya I did that then I only use his dmg up skill before Dragonite uses sync while Orleana just rush the sync count

Should I replace redlax to Aaron though? Seems like many ppl are using him in this stage

[plush palm]

sometimes you can sneak in 2 if you get a full para or miss

depends on the comp and rng i guess

[cloud timber]

exr oleana is a straight upgrade to aaron in this case

[icy pendant]

also, we use aaron because we don't have 5/5 exr oleana

[cloud timber]

yea

[plush palm]

non 5/5 oleana has gauge problems

i have her exr but 1/5

mine kinda sucks here

[cloud timber]

needs 5/5 as well yes

the one in the screenshot i was looking at was 5/5

[cedar cloak]

Oh I see that's good to know. Might try to fish the miss, Idk if that's worth it 😅

And this is my Lance's grid for the run, is this good enough or there's a better option? (Btw oleana and redlax both are running hs1 lucky skill in case it matters)

[plush palm]

meh i give up

cant be assed to push rn

[thin wren]

that's wayyy too low. Should be much higher

give me a bit I will send the strat@tender patrol

you should get at least 3 mil will that team

[icy pendant]

oh yeah 3/5 gladion definitely can go higher

[plush palm]

i have no penny

no ss wally

[icy pendant]

oh I wasn't replying to you whoops

[thin wren]

first I'd like to ask how much patience you have to reset a ton@tender patrol

[icy pendant]

adding on to doom's comment

[thin wren]

any ss hau?

[plush palm]

nope

[thin wren]

or nc blue

or nc Rosa

[plush palm]

This is the best i can hope for w/ my roster

im realistic

i aint got the gems to roll MFs all the bloody time

[brisk shale]

I'm curious, why SSA cynthia?

[icy pendant]

honestly maybe you can grind up over 1m stacking seun and smun on gladion without debuffs

[icy pendant]

instant +6/+6

[thin wren]

to speed up aaron spam

[brisk shale]

Ah

[plush palm]

aaron spam and MF passive

[icy pendant]

master passive for a grand total of how many non-sync moves

[tulip egret]

Any rough idea 1/5 arc cynthia can do with decent support

[icy pendant]

exr or no

[tulip egret]

Can she crack a million

Sure, she seems like a good use of one

[icy pendant]

exr can probably get to 1m yeah

[tulip egret]

Whose a good team with her

Colrless?

[icy pendant]

regular sing spam

nc blue melony

[tulip egret]

Can you explain why that's better than colrless debuffing defense and someone else who can speed up sync cooldown

Not arguing

[icy pendant]

blue gives you 2 defense drops just by syncing, and you get to more syncs overall

[cloud timber]

sing is much faster, infliction freebie takes time

[plush palm]

support ex

[cloud timber]

and melony isn't slowed down by passives

[thin wren]

it's saving 5 seconds per sync iirc

from what I tested myself

[icy pendant]

yeah it's taking 3 cynthia syncs with an extra sync buff, or probably 2 stronger ones at one fewer sync buff

also if you put colress in, you have to set sandstorm twice. which, yeah.

[boreal warren]

no exr on anyone

what’s the most I could get with this, so far around 450k is the most I got from a few tries

[icy pendant]

if you're not going to exr cynthia, what other ground ex do you have?

[tulip egret]

Why does colrless make you set sandstorm twice?

Bc you can't double support sync?

[icy pendant]

support ex twice at the start is just enough time to set sand + zone right before cynthia's first sync and have it last until her last

colress taking up an extra 10 seconds total would both cause that zone to expire, and bring cynthia's sync up earlier

[boreal warren]

well I am going to when I have the chance, I came back to the game after a while so I have maybe 3 of every exr token or whatever they are called so far out of 20

only other ground ex I have is normal cynthia

[icy pendant]

move level?

[boreal warren]

3

[icy pendant]

I have a weird feeling double cynthia is better syncing with pokefair cynthia garchomp and using arc cynthia as essentially a seun/rebuff bot

[modest plaza]

I did 720k with the exact same comp

[boreal warren]

you have exr though or no?

[modest plaza]

Yeah I do

[boreal warren]

would I replace colress

[modest plaza]

Only on Cynthia

[boreal warren]

yea that’s where the most dmg comes from

[icy pendant]

I think you replace Redlax there actually, Colress is the one thing facilitating the team doing its thing

[modest plaza]

I see

[boreal warren]

alright

thanks ill give it a try

[modest plaza]

What’s gonna be good at the dark dc?

[icy pendant]

CyruSS, SC Zinnia, V Selene, all 3/5 of course

[modest plaza]

I got Marnie moltres, and that’s it

[icy pendant]

basically if it has a dark tech sync, it'll be pretty solid

[thin wren]

wonder who will be better between sc zinnia and cyruSS

[icy pendant]

well I have a zinnia invested and not a cyrus, so I'm really hoping she can at least hold up

also, isn't cyrus's multiplier power play?

[thin wren]

or will they be used together

[modest plaza]

Oof, my tech dark units are really bad

[thin wren]

cyruss can theoretically sync spam

[icy pendant]

extra special dark damage?

[modest plaza]

^

[thin wren]

bad break sync spam passively sets it up

[acoustic chasm]

If you have Rika, Arc cynthia can get 1.3M easily at 1/5

[icy pendant]

oh wait shared nightmare only works when the target is asleep lol

ok I am 100% using them together

[thin wren]

my cyruss is only 1/5(got him from a daily) so I will use 3/5 carnie with him

[icy pendant]

maybe I even field exr my cyrus finally

[paper anchor]

Is the strat for this just venom drench spam?

Saw this early in the morning, was planning on doing it last minute today

[icy pendant]

oh this is water

water is standard spamming tech

so either bp barry/colress at 3/5, or even better paralysis + sing spam

[paper anchor]

Wish i had Dahlia since she is the unit for this but I have nc serena so i dont see why i cant pull this one off

[modest plaza]

I’ll just stick with Marnie right? Cus I really don’t think the other units gonna be doing something good

[icy pendant]

venom drench spam is exclusive to the ranked dragon-weak battle, and demands 5/5 oleana. the substitute is aaron defend order spam there

trope apparently venom drench spammed there with cerena presumably to set up power play, but cerena also has a couple other routes from the looks of things

[paper anchor]

okok

thank you

Im gonna test it out

[icy pendant]

it really is just no value, pure spamming venom drench

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQYR8LNvVmc was not poisoned, just for cd spam plus evasion

[icy pendant]

cerena does just set up her own power play super fast

[sacred badger]

oh

today is dark single

waiting kekee

[boreal warren]

yea I couldn’t get any higher with double cynthia, just going to stick to red

[brazen cipher]

Got a double para, if I had cued the 2nd rain dance a little later I think I get 1 million

[long silo]

Question on PomaTools

You have to tick the "critical up next" to get the crit dmg of sync right

[brisk shale]

Just the critical one

I think the "⬆️ next" is super effective up next

[long silo]

Ok thank you

[pallid girder]

Afaik SS Kris is funnily worse than some rain eggmons here bc she has passives tied to her rain so you're guaranteed to lose one sync without para proc when using her.

[pallid girder]

A lot of time 5/5 general techs would perform better than 3/5 limited strikers in 3v1, but idk if this is the same case for dark bc the general pool dark techs both have problematic sync condition for dc.

[brazen cipher]

interesting. i thought the master passive+maybe double support sync might counter that

[long silo]

Does the PomaTool damage calculator assumes super effective damage?

Oh wait nvn

The drop down sets SE, and the next button sets up SEUN