Damage Challenge

[warped gulch]

I managed to find the way to get +10 PMUN for 1st B Move reliable

Not touching Nate’s Tm

Until the end

His Tm when already gives free move has fast animation so use it at the end to stack PMUN is way better

[normal parcel]

I guess depends on teammates and to your RNG propension, Lucas has more score potential but is much more RNG reliant, Nate can peak less, but his clear doesn't involve much RNG, however for Nate exr is really important

[dry whale]

Latest score, video is uploading

[swift pulsar]

First try

[fluid anvil]

how many syncs total is this?

[dry whale]

Here is the Video @fluid anvil @normal parcel @vernal condor @civic island

I ended up swapping Headstart from Colress to speedy entry 2

https://streamable.com/7xpggd

[modest ledge]

Are we getting more ranked challenges soon?

[warped gulch]

Yes

• MT Fairy, no rule, against Arc Cynthia
• MT Ground, neft SpA, against Arc Steven
• ST Dragon, no Status, against Arc Lance

[modest ledge]

Oh boy more ST Dragon, ok ty lol

[vernal condor]

Cant wait for opponents B move animations to waste time

[modest ledge]

It’s one where we only need to total 1m for maximum rewards?

[vernal condor]

Yes

[modest ledge]

Oh ok

Could probably auto that lmao

[fluid anvil]

ok, so its 5 syncs = 6 sync buffs

does the ranked DC start on the 30-th ?

[vapid kernel]

i hate this

current Dragon damage not lasting until Lance drops

[teal haven]

2/5 colress sucks man

[robust meteor]

I looked and noticed this as well. Sort of stupid oversight on DeNA's part

[unborn otter]

klara released after poison dc

[dry whale]

Not this time around scroll up a bit, look at the vid, there no infliction freebie , so 2/5 can work with this fight.

Both headstart and speedy entry 2 work.

[copper otter]

Paranoid that this needs 5/5 wally

[true locust]

5/5 wally dc lol? Hudge wally fan

[rare apex]

oh. does this mean we're getting a Pasio theme skill at last?

[icy pendant]

yes

[rare apex]

woo yeah

[icy pendant]

but also wow 5/5 DC Wally dang

[vernal condor]

Nah it's a mistake

[rare apex]

i'll probably be 5/5ing my DC Wally whenever there's a new DC char i'm not interested in getting

[vernal condor]

3/5 Wally I forgot to change it

[copper otter]

Building wally up now

[ivory kestrel]

Was originally going to try first with Lucas. But I checked my gears, i had better gear skills for NC Nate. Also tried this comp without running a para unit, so sort of a pseudo sing spam

[modest ledge]

Is Champion Iris too slow for this?

Like she has a ridiculous nuke I’m just not really sure if it’s taking way too long to set up or what

[copper otter]

She has horrible setup

needs 18 debuffs, need max attack and crit, and worst of all, Needs Draogn Zone and SEUP

[rare apex]

simply refresh tm twice

[copper otter]

thrice

[modest ledge]

I’ll just use Zerena and get whatever she can manage lol

[tired narwhal]

If I’m using zerena, who should my pairs be?

Bluedos and melony?

[lapis stone]

how many syncs can you get with lucas and dialga? currently i can get 2 support syncs followed by 5 from lucas

can you do better?

my best score with dialga, bluedos and melony is 1.2m with i think 3 SUEN procs and 2 missed crits

[dry whale]

Ok now I'm satisfied.

I take that back, I just noticed I had the wrong skill gear on.

[fluid anvil]

Pomatools has updated

[copper otter]

@true locust have fun. Pomatools updated

[robust meteor]

boy, for ST Dragon DC, given I only have SS SErena and 1/5 Lucas as my limited dragon units... I know the score will be low, but what would be the best team? NC Blue/Melony and one of them?

[tired narwhal]

Ik it’s not what I have there^

[snow raptor]

Somehow 1M feels like* a nightmare to get so ill stick to that /o the more time pass the more i dislike this mode xD

[copper otter]

DC wally can 1 mil

You"ll need sc steven, but he can 1 mil

[snow raptor]

Nvm i spoke too fast

[fluid anvil]

quick dirty calcs gave me funny Cynthia numbers. Presuming NC blue + melony and TM on every sync (so best rng, best case scenario)
1-st Cynthia sync (4 sync buffs) = 400K x 3 = 1.2M
2-nd Cynthia sync (5 sync buffs) = 450K x 3 = 1.35M
3-rd Cynthia sync (6 sync buffs) = 520K x3 = 1.56M
4-th Cynthia sync (7 sync buffs) = 590K x 3 = 1.77M
= 5.88M .. if theoretically 45% sync gear = 8.5M
this is ONLY syncs, not counting moves. If you can do 4 syncs + 2 B-moves then the 2 B-moves (8 PMUNs each) should do 160k x 3 = 480K and (2) 200Kx3 = 600K
so ~9.6M total max with best gear and best rng
Maybe its better to skip B-moves and push for 7 total syncs, if thats possible. Maybe then you get 10M with perfect gear & rng.
or maybe even 7 syncs + 1 last B-move if enough time (sand chip is bad, but also Cynthia has super high base speed, so Melony should never run out of gauge)
Without perfect TM refreshes its lower, but should still be like 8M+ ? You only really need ~4 TMs, so "only" 3 refreshes - 0.3^3 = 2.7% .. 0.3^2 = 9%

no idea if this is correct tbh. Feels like it ranges from 6M+ to 10M+ based on gear and refreshes

[sacred badger]

is that arc cynthia 5/5R?

[fluid anvil]

yup

[sacred badger]

crazy o.o

[fluid anvil]

her "base" even without TMs is already very high, but that TM (SEUN and 50% SyncUp) is insane - the best TM in the game for DC
if you reset for refreshes then it sky-rockets

• gear

[cloud timber]

all seuns and crits and randomly missed the last input wat

maybe i got too lazy with mashing bc i was playing on lower speed

did miss mind games proc at the start so it wouldn't have been ideal

[tired narwhal]

This can’t be the best I do… rught?

[fluid anvil]

nope thats about it .. maybe 100-150K more
you expect too much of a Dragon Striker that isnt NC Nate on a 3v1 stage

[tired narwhal]

I guess but still damn

Thought I saw someone get 700k or something

800*

I just dont wanna use tech candies for Lucas cuz I never use them. Maybe I just take the weak score this time

[still hearth]

Could I get at least a decent score with one of these?

[cloud timber]

oh it just takes too much time if you get every seun and aren't playing at min speed

bc i got it again, every seun+crit and not last sync

[hollow whale]

Oh I’m definitely taking the crap scores and giving up lol

No way am I using candies for this mode

[icy pendant]

Define decent, I don't think you clear 500k with any of these but given the state of the roster I'd be quite content with that score

[sonic flint]

I'm happy with this, missed a crit and 3/5 SEUP

[copper otter]

Gonna stream my dc wally runs

In like 45 mins

[brisk shale]

cs2
6 syncs
1 tm mpr
Didn't crit third Drasna sync

[copper otter]

Foe poison, that ain't bad

[brisk shale]

Poison doesn't really matter

Bc I ran out of cookies to roll for speed entry

So I run out of gauge a bit

[copper otter]

Oof

[brisk shale]

Which is why Lucas did 20k dmg

[edgy hemlock]

Do you have the grids?

[cloud timber]

mainly would just need numbing blow on larry, sing accuracy on melony, and everything that buffs sync damage on lucas

[copper otter]

Ok time to stream.

[dry whale]

Ok, did it again now with correct skill gear. While I could have made it to the extra 50 that's just not reasonable for me to want to go back and hope all those scale shot did not miss.

[thin wren]

nice

thx for pushing nate so high

[copper otter]

MAN I LOVE NOT CRITTING

TWICE

[sturdy pebble]

[copper otter]

DC wally can 1 mil

[sturdy pebble]

Oh really?

[warped gulch]

3/5 EX 6E

[sturdy pebble]

Not sure I want to do that

[copper otter]

hmm...

[long silo]

Oh nice, DC Wally was eventually able to reach it

[copper otter]

Low rolls maybe?

[warped gulch]

Nah

Your last SEUN didn’t have SEUN

You used too early

[copper otter]

was hoping for MP refresh

[warped gulch]

Also you didn’t debuff to -6 Def so

[copper otter]

ahhh

[warped gulch]

Also not to mention

[copper otter]

should show my gears

[warped gulch]

Do not use Melony’s Tm

That longer than Dire Hit

And you need 2 Tm

[copper otter]

ah

so its a bit tight but doable

[warped gulch]

Use Wally’s Tm early

[acoustic chasm]

Oh I wanna see that

[warped gulch]

For mpr

And also

Evasion

[copper otter]

on stream rn

damn, had para too

but no mpr

[warped gulch]

Yeah

That why reset for tm mpr is very important

1 use Tm is very bs

[copper otter]

ah love that mpr

don't even have a run yet lmao

surely this bad luck will make me get cynthia first daily

[long silo]

Gamers, what's the minimum move level for Chase in DC context

[warped gulch]

He is pretty viable at 1/5 already

Need EXR

[long silo]

Oh perfect

[copper otter]

NON CRIT

[brisk shale]

Who do I use with 3/5 champ iris?

Maybe NC leaf and melony?

[warped gulch]

I saw C Elesa

[long silo]

Although I just EXR-ed Elio so that may be a bit of a problem. We'll see

[copper otter]

I hate this 🙂

[acoustic chasm]

oof

[copper otter]

back to MPR hell

am i not streaming?

[fluid anvil]

[copper otter]

Og the Misery

900k

[acoustic chasm]

Gotta have to count on SEUN MPR

[copper otter]

yea

it was a good run too

bad run

[warped gulch]

Wally: Imagine dodging

[copper otter]

^^^^

even with an acc drop

hate this game

the perfect run.

Ruined by a noncrit

[warped gulch]

Acc drop doesn’t matter that much

[copper otter]

it did this run

brutal swing miss

[warped gulch]

[copper otter]

Horrible run

IJasknjabskvc

I HATE YOU WALLY SO MUCh

[acoustic chasm]

3 missed crits hell naw 💀

[copper otter]

JUST CRIT OMFG

SUCH A GOOD RUN TOO

[crude sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[copper otter]

DeNa how to not make a optimized run, the most miserable thing possible,, Difficulty: impossible

[crude sandal]

Also, how are people getting close to 2.4M?

[copper otter]

idk what i'm more pissed off on. MPR refreshes or syncs not critting

[crude sandal]

How about you ask the people who rely on para proc

[copper otter]

no need to, relying on evasion

Ok, i'm done.

no mpr refresh then ends off with a noncrit

Cool. thanks game

i gotta head to sleep here anyhow

wait..... wtf?

Same attack.

[cunning rock]

I'm looking at BP Lusamine and BP Rose and they're unironically pretty good for this mode, BP Lusamine wants Sun and Confusion tho, she can provide it herself.

And BP Rose can get SEUN but it's only through his TM with 1 charge and you can't get the rest of his multipliers if you grabbed SEUN.

[civic island]

Sadly BP Rose can't keep up with
KGrimsley or Colress, his grid is a nightmare

[cunning rock]

Yeah, I'm still leaning towards Colress over BP Rose because with offensive support, and the fact that his sync does -2 accuracy could mean he get get an extra sync in with enough misses

Also the role compression.

[long silo]

Glad I got 5/5 Colress just in time

[copper otter]

I didn't crit...

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spongebob-head-bang-gif-15984525

[long silo]

So close

[sacred badger]

wow. go sleep o-o

[acoustic chasm]

I'm waiting for the ticket update to 5/5 Ryuki

[pallid girder]

For f2p steel st Alola Grimsley > Colress imo.

Colress needs the full offensive babysitting is the biggest killer.

[cunning rock]

It depends, Colress could afford running an offensive buffer + Steel Zone setter since he already takes care of sync rushing while being the nuker. That -2 acc/sync on his grid could be big if he nabs enough misses

[loud cedar]

what are colress’ sync multipliers

[cunning rock]

Defense buffs and Paralyze (it's also his innate)

[loud cedar]

oh he has innate para and scaling off of para?

or just max defense+innate

[cunning rock]

His innate is para since he's Tech. But also has Static Shock 9, which also requires para

His issue that he doesn't innately boost his atk or crit.

[loud cedar]

i see

yeah he needs a buffer

[brisk shale]

he buffs crit but it's slow

[pallid girder]

Alola Grimsley can also fish for miss.
Alola Grismley is admittedly impossible with both SEUN and zone, but gettin both for Colress SC Selena is pretty much the only choice so w/o her Colress is just hard to work.

[cunning rock]

It forces you to use Mirror Shot, Colress can't really do that in DC

Since he's busy sync rushing

[brisk shale]

ik

[cunning rock]

Hilbert at 3/5 is Colress best buffer, +6 atk, +3 crit, and +2 def (completing his Towering Force after popping his TM)

[pallid girder]

I've tried Hilbert + PMarnie. Not that amazing.

[spark prism]

So uh…

[cunning rock]

I got PMarnie to work with Redlax. Using her TM twice + Redlax Max Knuckle and 1 TM maxes out her atk and crit.

[pallid girder]

I mean for Colress' team lol

[cunning rock]

Some people have been running Anni Raihan, he can definitely go past 500k. 1M would depend on your other units

[pallid girder]

My PMarnie is 1/5 so it's no way she can do better than Colress or AGrimsley.

[cunning rock]

I think it could still work, just max out offenses with Hilbert and PMarnie could just TM just to sync a little faster. Sync with Hilbert and then sync rush+sync with Colress afterwards

[pallid girder]

I made AGrimsley hit 1M in 3v3 eventually but never Colress. Maybe Im just bad so I'd try again

[cunning rock]

I did see someone get 1M with Colress in 3v3 too, just forgot his teammates

[spark prism]

What grid? Ive been getting like 100k

I have 1/5 exr redlax and colress/bp barry

[cunning rock]

#1255888121648644197 message

[pallid girder]

It's SCSelene. Like I said w/o SC Selene it's hard to make him work.

[cunning rock]

As long as he grabs his two sync damage tiles, Interference Sync, and Weather Sync Up, maybe Solar Sync too, he should be good. BP Barry is better for this than Colress because BP Barry has a 50% chance to inflict Trap when he clicks Absorb which procs Raihan's Interference Sync.

After Raihan's first sync, Sun should be up. Use Max Flare if it's about to expire to maintain Weather Sync Up.

[spark prism]

Dont have vlance, my flyhan is 3/5, and melony isnt EXd

[cunning rock]

Redlax, BP Barry should work with Raihan but it's not as straightforward due to what Anni Raihan's multipliers need

[spark prism]

[warped gulch]

Do you have Morty ?

SS Morty

3/5 Raihan is horrible if you dont have other unit to bring other weather

Sandstorm + Trap just dead

[spark prism]

Yeah

SS Morty, Flyhan, and ?

[warped gulch]

Aaron

[spark prism]

Also my best score has been with Zerena and its not even that high

[warped gulch]

3/5 EXR SS Morty is recommended

[spark prism]

Yeah I have him 3/5 EXR

Any grid recommendations for them?

[warped gulch]

Yeah you can try Raihan + SS Morty + Aaron

Wait me a bit, i’ll find my old run

[spark prism]

Alr

[edgy hemlock]

Somebody help pls 🥺

[warped gulch]

I used 5/5 grid so that why my Raihan had Max Countdown 2, i suggest you can make up for it by suffer with Tm mpr 🦭

Also you dont need to flinch btw, that run need flinch so Shauna couldn’t use final move

[spark prism]

Does morty and aaron grid matter? And im guessing its the same flyhan grid?

[warped gulch]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=014802025001&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhATFBUWGBk&v1=025701033000&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBgcICQsREhQYHR8gIy4v&v2=015200041600&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=4444&g2=AAECAwQFBggLDg

[thin wren]

what's next

[jolly violet]

triple water

[modest ledge]

Easy FTP w/ Kris probs. Very exciting lol

These single target stages are a nightmare

[crude sandal]

Is Dahlia really that good even if some of her stuff is annoying?

Like needing Teeter Dance for Interference Sync and using Muddy Water for Superduper

[jolly violet]

C Blue can do confusion for her. Not sure if muddy water worth it

[cunning rock]

Muddy Water becomes worth if you proc an accuracy drop and you get a lot of misses

It's far from reliable but it's there

[torn lily]

Is he caked?

[crude sandal]

So no Superduper

Also Blue needs to frequently use Discharge, which can be annoying because he can flinch

And Blue's Gobsmack is only 30% chance

[feral hamlet]

Is this another case of sync damage only?

[sacred badger]

how many syncs?

[feral hamlet]

I think 3?

[sacred badger]

honestly

is your lucas exr'd?

[feral hamlet]

No

[sacred badger]

i think he can hit 1m and he syncs all the way.

[warped gulch]

Why SC Steven ?

You cant sync spam

[feral hamlet]

Figured the type rebuff was worth the payoff

[sacred badger]

sc steven could wwork, but if you ran bp barry iirc

[feral hamlet]

Oh yeah, to not rely on sing

[sacred badger]

the reason people use melony is because faster, but only if the target has been paralyzed/burned or w/e

9mostly paralyzed0, with like NC Blue

[cloud timber]

yea no point in running melony/elio without another status

bp barry and colress are better by that point

[feral hamlet]

Good ol' Classic Red. Always a classic

[pallid girder]

If you're using Red try Elio. Use Red's Body Slam to para.

[feral hamlet]

I tried that for a bit with Melony on sing but the proc rate was too low. Literally didn't proc 3 times in a row, and sing missed 3 times in a row too

Oh and my Barry still had Vigilance

[icy pendant]

you don't have he1 gridded?

[pallid girder]

First of all Red is never good with Melony. Their gauge is too poor.
Red has body slam he1 at 3/5 so it's actually 60%. Also it should be a first turn thing and when you didn't proc just restart.

[icy pendant]

he1 is 2/5 but yeah it's also available on 3/5

[nova remnant]

FINALLY GOT MY FUCKING COLRESS FROM TIXS but...

2/5 and I'm out of tixs lmao

[cloud timber]

went from 2/5 colress to 6/5 colress off general tickets lol

[nova remnant]

I'm gonna have to cope hard for a single Colress to appear when I pull Steven

[cloud timber]

[fossil igloo]

Think I can hit 2 million?

[sacred badger]

did you miss a crit?

[fossil igloo]

Don't know, but I DO know that this is only using Critical Strike 2.

[sacred badger]

if cs2 doesnt show up, you missed a crit ;-;

how many syncs did you managed to do ith iris?

[fossil igloo]

4. Somehow, I feel like a fifth is possible, though. Just need the right RNG for it.

[sacred badger]

managed to hit 4 SEUN?

[fossil igloo]

Yes.

[sacred badger]

honestly, if youo're like 1 move away from her 5th sync, could be possible hmm.

i'm assuming steven is running head start 1, and bp barry adrenaline.

[fossil igloo]

Head start on both.

[queen moth]

has anyone tried cyrus for this?

i don't have invested lucas, or nc nate, or like any rly good dragon that isn't zerena

[sacred badger]

i think you could get to 1.8-1.9m if you give her super powered 3 oo.o

[fossil igloo]

Let's hope I get it. That could make things a lot easier.

[pallid girder]

He's a striker. He even struggle to hit 1M in 3v3.

[rain copper]

how about Dragon techs like Ryuki or Drasna?

[queen moth]

ryuki at 4/5, drasna at 2/5

[pallid girder]

Ryuki hit 1M with some premium teamates.

[queen moth]

can i see a vid/guide? i'll give him a shot

[fluid anvil]

yup

[cloud timber]

as good as i'm going to get

#5

oh wait it was on cs2

i forgot to switch it back to sp3

lmao

time to grind again

ok now that's as good as i'm getting

#2

every seun and crit and mind games proc at the start

[vapid kernel]

I improved

[cloud timber]

sp3 made a 4.1% difference

[normal parcel]

Auto will never get 1m even with 3 stages, auto is really really bad

[pallid girder]

No video or guide. Only saw this.
#1255888121648644197 message

[scenic crow]

nice

[cloud timber]

ty

[scenic crow]

[loud cedar]

i wonder how well 1/5 arcynthia will do at 3v3 ground

[scenic crow]

im ready for rank damage challenge

[true locust]

You got cynthia?

[fluid anvil]

Got her at 5/5 ?

[vapid kernel]

Wow

[scenic crow]

yes

[fluid anvil]

What are your best Sinnoh/Champion/Ground gears ? How much sync % damage?

[fervent yacht]

Never tried damage challenge some help or pointers?

[unique abyss]

Ig I'm screwed for ranked? Cynthia, Wally and Penny are 1/5 I really wanted to pull for Lance (also possible, brutal 500 points shaft), but he'd be another forever 1/5 unit, idk if Lear isn't a good choice (At least I can upgrade him )

[lethal siren]

So wht do people think like how much Lillie can do in st steel dc

[loud cedar]

cynthia should still be good even if 1/5

i think you're better off using a status spammer for glad

the premium fairy team makes use of sprint exrs

[unique abyss]

I'm pretty sure I did some testings with para/sing spamming and the results were worse than Gladion and 1/5 Penny&Wally (maybe I'll try again with Rosa), anyway this team scored 3.4M during the fairy 3v3 dc.

[nova remnant]

Kept missing 1 SEUN and my hand hurts guess I'll just settle with this :]

[scenic crow]

playing valorant

haha

Not tested yet

[true locust]

Wow crazy good score:)

[cloud timber]

ty

[normal parcel]

I guess the rebuffs, ground zone and the b move finisher should be enough to support another ground nuker, but her nuke will be pretty bad at 1/5

[true locust]

Does sync aoe have penalty?

[unborn vault]

I wonder if Steven could find applications with sync up next, def/sdef drops etc

[slender venture]

no

Sync up next is spent after the sync

[unborn vault]

Ik

[slender venture]

so Steven is only really for that 1st sync

[unborn vault]

But could still be relatively valuable

Maybe 1 mpr

Idk

[lethal siren]

Wht were the rewards of super sparring

[scenic crow]

is so good

[teal harness]

triple water is next, I hope kris can do a good job here

[normal parcel]

Kris union should be among the best units

Maybe not as good as 5/5 Lysander or 5/5 Dahlia

[true locust]

Damage is nice but cynthia is mega why she dont have 3 rebuff on entry? You have 2

This is kinda weird for me

[jolly violet]

So the entry rebuff doesn't active again when mega

Good to know

5/5 grid kinda slow her down for DC

Since it cast Ground Zone again every sync

[true locust]

Its kinda scam since like wally on mega have same stuff like base when entry

[fluid anvil]

you just dont take Dustkicker

[civic island]

Almost 10s each sync💀

But yeah you're def not running that

[jolly violet]

Can't wait to try her on Triple Ground weak on October

My Cynthia should be 5/5 by then

[warped gulch]

Nah, it is normal. it has “the first time it enter the battle” thing, different than only “enter the battle”

That also why HS doesn’t work on mega

[true locust]

She mega enter again

[pallid girder]

There're two kinds of entry passive:

1. WITHOUT "the first time" in description: this will activate a second time when mega
2. with "the first time" in description: this will NOT activate a second time when mega, unless the mega pair changes their passive upon meta, which is SS Wally's case (HS1>HS2)

[warped gulch]

The First Time

[true locust]

Ok but for me mega is not same unit as base

[warped gulch]

Then tell me why Head Start doesn’t work for mega

[true locust]

Hmm

On grid work on mega passive and skill no then

[warped gulch]

That bc it has “The First Time”

[true locust]

Sad thing

I was hope she get 3 rebuff eh

[warped gulch]

That why Wally cant use HS1 to cheese tho

If HS work on mega then why we ever want to use Adrenaline

So yeah, Cynthia’s passive works perfectly fine tho

[true locust]

But wally in grid low special attack befor mega and after mega

[warped gulch]

You should read it

The lower special atk and raise speed only has “enter the battle”

[true locust]

A yed no first time🤣

[warped gulch]

Those don’t have “the first time”

[true locust]

You correct boss

Good thing i dont scout for cynthia no 3 rebuff 500 points scam

[jolly violet]

I'm 1 point away from pity Mix scout
Should I pick SS Wally for rank?

Or just Wait

[true locust]

Depend if you have penny

And gladion

If no dont pick simpel

[jolly violet]

I do have 3/5 Penny

[pallid girder]

I mean it's kinda obvious with "the first time" part so really no scam.
The only scam is 500 pity with reuse asset.

[true locust]

For me not haha🤣

So if they add arc units should work diffrently then regulars

Then its wort 500/500

If its same lol?

Kinda strange for me why dont give 3 rebuff when its mega .

[warped gulch]

Nah, it works perfectly fine tho

[jolly violet]

If AS Cynthia is perfect like that. DeNA can't sell any ground pair in the future

[true locust]

3 is always better then 2:)

[warped gulch]

You dont want to see Cynthia and Steven get 3 Rebuffs without any effort while Lance need grid for it

[true locust]

Lance dont have mega

They could give him mega unit and sorted

[jolly violet]

Lance stat sucks so he needs that extra debuff

Steven and Cynthai are fine

[true locust]

Lance sync have physical?

[long silo]

4th sync missed the SE and Crit. Lucas just decided randomly to gut the 4th specifically

[pastel bone]

this with exr?

[long silo]

Nope

[thin wren]

2 resets till ranked

[real wind]

Well... I guess I need 4 MP Refreshes to hit 1M+

[warped gulch]

Do you have C Elesa ?

[real wind]

No Classic Elesa sadly

[warped gulch]

That is a huge lost

[real wind]

I'll probably try do more runs w/ Iris Alt (but I'll take the points for now)

I might give Drasna EX and Ryuki a try, both 3/5+ (tho idk if they can hit high enough)

[scenic crow]

yeah i see

[sacred badger]

Oh water multi on friday

Hmmm

Kris gaming inertia, sure crit, haymaker and super powered 5 o.o

Hrm looks gud

[safe prawn]

Dahila is so good even if not invested imo

[sacred badger]

No seun .-. oh wells

[warped gulch]

Only problem with her is 1 use rain

[sacred badger]

That too

Hmm. Could just grab sc steven.

[safe prawn]

Yeah you need to time that carefully without extension

[sacred badger]

2nd kris sync? Maybe?

[cursive linden]

Which team is the best for Kris here?

[safe prawn]

The Melony team has def debuffs

[unborn vault]

I would also go for the Melony team

Altough, perhaps Melony doesn't do too much in here

[pastel bone]

Anyone got team ideas for 1M?

[glossy token]

so for a fairly restricted roster, is it weird that im outdamaging spam strats with 1/5 leon dmax cannon spam

none of my syncers are getting anywhere close, even with 2x critastrophe on cyrus

[dry whale]

Do you have NC Bianca?

[warped gulch]

How many B Move did you use ?

[pastel bone]

Yep

[pastel bone]

Uhh once

Trying to stack the physical boost to 10

[pastel bone]

What's the strat?

[dry whale]

3 b moves

[warped gulch]

If you have NC Bianca, yeah just drop Nc Rosa

[pastel bone]

You have a vid? Also grid for NC Bianca?

[dry whale]

#1255888121648644197 message

[unique abyss]

You must have insane gears

[icy pendant]

wait something my brain just caught: SST Red is finally going to have a good buffing teammate in AS Steven right? we finally have a way around team-wide gradual healing?

[glossy token]

this is my pb and runner up

post-enemy sync dmax cannon is just doing way more than any sync

so im wondering if theres a better gauge support for leon than the team comp shown there

[raven hill]

Has anyone got colress 3/5 grid for DC?

[glossy token]

+pins

[wispy pagoda]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[sturdy pebble]

I think I have to take the L for this DC

[fluid anvil]

anyone doing calcs for Cynthia and Lance to see how much they will get in DC?
I know we dont know Lances B-move multipliers, but you can safely just assume it will do the 999,999 cap

[lapis yarrow]

No video? I can't seem to get the strat right..maybe its my gears lol

[slender venture]

He can just easily accumulate PMUN and SMUN by cycling syncs

One B hyper beam and Giga impact for the end

[true locust]

Haha

You need giga and hyper from start:)

[slender venture]

Yes

[true locust]

Wat will take alot time

[slender venture]

Sure but it pays off

It also paralysis with grid

[true locust]

Who he para?

🤣

[slender venture]

He has a para node in grid yes

[true locust]

But stage is no status

No interfrence

[slender venture]

Oh you mean ranked

[true locust]

Yes

This is end when lance drop

[slender venture]

Fair

[true locust]

So nobody use him

[slender venture]

Well you just go full damage then, he has 150 sync BP in grid

And relentless

His most important node besides relentless is that +2 smun/pmun each sync

[true locust]

Most important thing it will be

If spam para sing if they dont get any info they immune

This will slow it down alot since we never got something like this in dc hard tell wat will be. Is same like cs or no

[slender venture]

True

[dry whale]

I replied to you yesterday, maybe you missed it.
#1255888121648644197 message

[lapis yarrow]

Ah yes thanks I'm still struggling to match yours even after watching that lol Do you have normal gears on? I think the lucky skills I am using may be different

[queen moth]

Arc Steven waiting room

[dry whale]

Went back and did a quick dirty run. This one is non optimal and with generic 3 star dragon gear instead of my skill gear.

So an optimal run is closer to 1.75+ with dragon gear

With skill gear as some of you have seen it's 2 million.

[glossy token]

ok i misplayed a little but

i can prob get 250k

is the time loss for syncing red -> elio -> leon worth the extra sync buff?

huh. now i cant get past 160k regardless of mpr luck

242 is fine ig

[plush palm]

@glossy token how much dmg does drasna do? i have her ex so idk. she might be worth a shot? or maybe not

she seems like your only one w/ a semifunctional nuke

[glossy token]

i can try her, but ik her grid multiplier is w/ toxic

so timeloss to speed reduction/para skip chance and animation time

i can try it and see

but i was under the impression she was actively not good here

[plush palm]

you dont have a lot of options

[glossy token]

yeah fair lmao

[plush palm]

bad is better than nothing

[glossy token]

i tried leveling the 1/5 lance i pulled on the final ticket day and he was pitiful lmao

[plush palm]

if she doesnt work maybe ryuki?

idk he does have a innate sync multiplier

[glossy token]

do we want the hit poisoned opp tile in drasna's grid?

i imagine not bc thats additional time

[plush palm]

dont bother

youre kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel ngl

[glossy token]

yeah lmao

ok i cant grab sharp entry or seun but

lets see how this goes

[plush palm]

gl

[glossy token]

oh right blue isnt -spdef value if im using poison

fake tears ig??

[plush palm]

maybe?

no h jasmine or redlax?

[glossy token]

i have redlax

but only 1/5

no spdef drop

[plush palm]

still good here

1/5 is all you need

youre sync rushing

[glossy token]

is the -6spdef vs +2spdef not going to meaningfully help drasnas sync dmg?

or is the +3 (or more) seun better in the long run

[plush palm]

redlax tm is +50%

[glossy token]

gotcha

[brisk shale]

You can pick sharp entry if you skip adren

[glossy token]

is adren not worth for sync rush?

i thought you wanted hs/adren wherever you can get

[plush palm]

if youre using him w/ redlax you kinda dont need it

or TM mpr

[glossy token]

this is run 1, will run w/ redlax and no adren

ugh. one shy

[plush palm]

you dont need sharp entry i mean

[glossy token]

oh

[plush palm]

adrenaline is nice if you can afford it i guess

if you cant thats ok too

[glossy token]

also now that i have an elio/redlax comp again

sync with red then drasna? or red elio drasna

[plush palm]

red elio drasna

[unique abyss]

Lance's B move has only one use? I'm curious how big is its multiplier

[glossy token]

i could probably grind for 300 but o7 citrine for the push to drasna toxic be damned

i used drasnas tm right at the end for a final seun smun and free move next for the last second draco meteor, but would it be better to get it out sooner? ive been using elio's tm + toxic ramp up to hit +6 spatk but maybe its faster to wait to use reds tm seuns later/until after drasna's first sync

also i get why it doesnt but i am once again wishing you could stack seun and just have it use one at a time and not the full multiplicative stack bc every time i mess up and double stack/waste one i cry

alr ty final tox proc for 8k, i saw brutal swing queue up when i was at 298 and was about to be so mad lmao

[plush palm]

congrats lol

next DC os triple water iirc

[rose basalt]

mix leaf will carry me 💪

dark single tho💀

wonder if marnie can do 1 mil

even on 3v1

[cloud timber]

ss cyrus time

[glossy token]

if i can get to 300 for dc marnie before/during dark single i think i can pop off

dc marnie for zone, colress for para + screech, then its ex incin all the way

[copper otter]

Going to continue my DC Wally attempts for 1 mil tonight

Furthest i got was 960k and because i missed a crit

Surely i can hit 1 mil

[glossy token]

doing the math on that, ex is 1.5, innate is speed (maxes his own speed via tm x 2), dominating sync 5 passive, pecking order in grid (i couldve sworn he had blind spot too but oh well)

thats not too shabby of a stack

redlax might still beat marnie but

[acoustic chasm]

I got 700k with Ryuki and I'll take it

That makes 2 stages without 1M for me (single bug and single dragon)

[thick stump]

Whats the best team here? I got 1.2 mil with 4/5 ex lucas, nc blue and melony

[cloud timber]

can't tell you #1 for certain but #2

[thick stump]

Oh wow

[cloud timber]

fishing for seun procs every sync

[thick stump]

EXR lucas? Whats the strat?

[cloud timber]

yea

[thick stump]

What luckies for blue and melony

HS1 and ppe?

[cloud timber]

mg2 ppe

don't need hs1 for this one

[thick stump]

Are you using discharge more than once?

[cloud timber]

just once

i can upload if you want

[thick stump]

If you dont mind

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPIn0TkK9I

it's up, low quality for now

[thick stump]

Ty

[thick stump]

Went up another 400k points

Didnt proc super command on every one but idc to go any higher lol

The sp def drop helped

[cloud timber]

nice gj

pretty rare for me to have anything close to an optimal team for this mode so i wanted to get out an ideal run while i had the chance

[crude sandal]

Anyone scoring 2M+ with Nate

[loud cedar]

there were some here

[crude sandal]

What's the highest he can go?

Can he beat 2.4M?

[dry whale]

I hit 2,033,845 with Nate. No chance it makes 2.4m. the only way I see to hit that number is to get an extra sync and followup nuke, that requires a crazy amount of misses and paras.

[sullen lagoon]

Hey all, first time poster - this may help those who only have free dragon tech pairs.

~840k Drasna run (w/ Lucas and Melony, but l've hit 900k with multiple TM refreshes)

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=016200048300&s0=1&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcICQoMERITFRobHB0jJCUmJyg&v1=015500069100&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFERgdICIjJSkqLi8&v2=025500013100&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBhESGhseHyAhJCUoKy0

[cloud timber]

wondering if you should run bp barry over melony so you have an option that doesn't run out of gauge and you can use toxic when you do have gauge

[azure hornet]

No Support Cake on Lucas, got all Super Effective Ups and crits

[sullen lagoon]

Yeah I just tried it and it may be more replicable. Can’t squeeze an extra sync in unfortunately

[cloud timber]

i see

[lusty galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1278519700686377010/Screenshot_2024-08-28-20-00-35-305_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=66d119c2&is=66cfc842&hm=8e984674ebc86ac8a22fce444796b8d1b716ba30a94b89995e89e1e356e96345&

just put Unova together and tried lol

[paper plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-what-huh-gif-13729709

this thread exists?

i never noticed it till now lol

[loud cedar]

it has existed for a while

[sturdy pebble]

I got real excited when I saw Iris

[loud cedar]

welcome to reset hell

[paper plover]

tbh ive barely been focusing on tryharding this whatsoever... do i have to beat my old scores to get more out of stages when they repeat?

just assumed it was just "do something each day and youll get shit eventually"

[loud cedar]

gear issue maybe?

i crit all my syncs

[loud cedar]

yeah but doing the fights "normally" nets you so little that it can take a long time to even get one unit

the units are average (with some outliers) so most just sweat for faves/getting on the leaderboard

[sturdy pebble]

I'm just taking the L this time around

[loud cedar]

yeah f2p units on dragon st is rough

[sturdy pebble]

I don't even have Ryuki

[cunning rock]

At least Ryuki should be more accessible now, you just need to nab his copies from Alola or General Ticket pulls

[stoic crest]

What is the best option for this? Please ping me

[crude sandal]

I would be lying if Drasna wasn't your best option, but she is

If Nate, Lucas or Iris were 3/5, then one of those would've been the top pick

[stoic crest]

That's.... concerning

What should I do with her? Or should I just use my dozens of candy to get Lucas 3/5?

[crude sandal]

Don't candy for DC

[stoic crest]

And what about grid for her? I assume run her with red lax?

[sullen lagoon]

If you scroll up, I posted a video of Drasna EX getting 800k plus

You can try with Lucas and either of Barry/Melony

[stoic crest]

Do you mind posting grids?

It's easier to grab a photo, my phone doesn't like videos with masters running.

[sullen lagoon]

https://tinyurl.com/bdewuvxu

[stoic crest]

Thank you!!! If I run into issues I'll make sure to give you a holler

[acoustic chasm]

I'm curious, why the sync with Lucas if he isn't caked?

[sullen lagoon]

Mainly to stop Drasna’s SEUN from activating on the second sync. Also had Adrenaline LS on Lucas and coupled with his Adrenaline passive it kinda worked

[acoustic chasm]

Thanks for the team btw, I'll try that with caked Lucas (way cheaper investment than candy)

[stoic crest]

So basically poison them, sync with melody, then Lucas, and spam sing and sync with drasna?

And is there a reason drasna is hit instead of the support?

[sturdy pebble]

I forgot about that tbh

But just to be sure, is there anything else I can use to get a higher score?

[brisk shale]

do you have nc leaf, c elesa or someone to enable champ iris?

[sturdy pebble]

No Leaf or Elesa

Guess I'll start pulling on that Alola ticket scout

[merry stump]

Another possible run...you sync with the supports each to get 4 sync buff and subsequent dialga syncs..

Go for zone toward last few syncs..

Total 8 to 9 sync buffs..

[glossy token]

wait, is 3/5 zerena not better?

sry i know im late

passive head start + restraining sync up plus soften up, brainpower, super syncer

this seems like it would outdamage drasna by miles

esp if already ex, let alone exr

@stoic crest not sure how you've done since im realizing im almost an hour late but

[stoic crest]

I actually was just about to start

So should I run drasna or zygarde?

[glossy token]

you can try drasna, but zygarde has higher stats and better multipliers

because you dont have to use poison to activate drasnas

so you can use the standard para for added time in the form of skipped move potential and slower enemy gauge

i dont know the exact timer on restrain compared to other status changes but

prob throw it on after your first support sync and itll be fine to last thru the end

plus exr on her will scale her sync to even higher heights

[stoic crest]

Do I run melody and Lucas still?

[glossy token]

i dont think she'll be fast enough for melony, but you can try

you want a para unit

i dont recall from your prev comps, do you have bp barry or 3/5 colress?

[stoic crest]

I have both of those pairs

[glossy token]

dealers choice of those two for para spam then

bc you otherwise dont have a way to para

[stoic crest]

What does restrain do?

[glossy token]

activates a sync multiplier

[stoic crest]

Oh that's a big deal

[glossy token]

also, you might want redlax or smth rather than lucas

[stoic crest]

Sync with zygarde second or first? I ask since she changes forms

[glossy token]

but yeah zerena's final passive in both formes

second

she has the support boost but if you can pack a second support unit you can get even bigger number so why not

but 556 spatk for a 325bp sync with increased crit chance from soften up + those restrain multipliers between the two forms + brainpower

only thing to watch for is to apply restrain before you proc feel our feelings for +6spatk since you'll lose time for the gradual healing animation time at the end otherwise

[stoic crest]

Do I want her regular dragon move or just sync?

[glossy token]

sync as many times as possible, hold the smun from entry until the very end

so you can get the biggest possible boost to the final core enforcer

[stoic crest]

So something like this?

[glossy token]

yep! sync with red first, then serena as many times as you can while leaving time for a final core enforcer

[stoic crest]

And restrain, then her TM, then sync her?

[glossy token]

yep!

oh and cs2 for lucky skill probably

for extra soften up stonks

[stoic crest]

Thank you!

[glossy token]

lmk what kinds of sicknasty numbers we wind up with :)

[stoic crest]

I got 400k first run but I know it surely can be better. Probably doesn't help I'm groggy and didn't hit stuff as fast I should

[glossy token]

nice!!

[thin wren]

that's close to the most for zerena tbh

Zerena really isn't built for dc

[glossy token]

theres no way she doesnt clear 500k??

between her own seun after first sync and redlax to give her seun before and after that

[pallid girder]

Drasna or Ryuki + 1/5 Lucas can do 600k minimum.

[thin wren]

close usually means a 200k difference to me in dc

Drasna is wayyy better than zerena for them tbh unless he doesn't have her

I don't know why they aren't using drasna

@stoic crest do you have 3/5 drasna and a 1/5 Lucas

[stoic crest]

Yeah drasna is 5/5 And Lucas is 2/5

[thin wren]

is drasna exed or can you afford to ex her

[stoic crest]

Yeah I ex her

[sullen lagoon]

Zerena can go around 600k with good gear and optimal setup, but Drasna can go much higher (900k+) because she has access to Dragon zone through Lucas and Melony (sing spam is faster than paralyse)

[thin wren]

Try drasna Lucas and elio or melony, whichever is ex

zerena's highest optimal is around drasna's lowest somewhat optimal

[sullen lagoon]

Yeah that’s it basically, have to keep an eye on your gauge though

[stoic crest]

I only got 550k so far with Lucas and drasna...but I don't have purple cookies. I caked Lucas too

[thin wren]

why were you using zerena btw. Iirc she only has 150% sync mult?

[sullen lagoon]

I don’t like her 🙃

[glossy token]

ig i just dont really understand what exactly zone adds to drasna that makes up from the combinations of toxic over para + worse multipliers and stats

[thin wren]

critical strike 2 on drasna should be enough

[stoic crest]

Yeah that's what I gave her

[thin wren]

Toxic at base means you can afford melony

melony is much faster than para rush even if enemy is poisoned

drasna has more multipliers

[stoic crest]

It's a tragedy we don't have lance yet he would probably clear this easily 😔

[thin wren]

and the stat gap isn't too bad

[glossy token]

she doesnt

her grid is virulent toxin and thats it

[thin wren]

why use zerena then if you were getting a lot more than zerena?

[glossy token]

her passive is only super duper effective not super powered

[thin wren]

her sync has inate

and tech ex boost

already equal multipliers to zerena. Virtuelent gives her more mult and iirc she has refreshable seun

[glossy token]

i know, but thats only 2. zerena has brainpower, restrain, and soften up for crit + hs1 and smun on entry

[stoic crest]

I just can't seem to get above 550k with drasna.

[brisk shale]

sync bp of them

[thin wren]

brain power and zerena passive is only 150% total

drasna has no mega tax, tech inate(100%) tech ex(50%) and virulent toxin 5(50%) that's 200%

[glossy token]

plus serena already having her ex gives an additional sync buff

wait

[brisk shale]

zerena has no mega tax either

[glossy token]

serena has mega tax??

i was gonna say

[thin wren]

sync buffs scale down after a bit

oh oops

still drasna syncs harder st

[warped gulch]

Mostly bc you can use other pair

[thin wren]

does zerena have infinite seun btw

[warped gulch]

Like Zone or SEUN

[brisk shale]

no

[warped gulch]

No

[glossy token]

its after first sync

[thin wren]

drasna has infinite seun

[glossy token]

i mean

not really

only if you farm for the perfect mpr rng

but

[thin wren]

and seun is 1.5x not 50% so it's much bigger

[warped gulch]

.

[glossy token]

you just bring redlax

[thin wren]

you can get like 1 or 2 drasna mpr and save for the last syncs

[warped gulch]

SS Serena either stuck with para + other pair or para + sing

[thin wren]

dasna simply affords more

[brisk shale]

the first passive is infinite
the second one is only once

[stoic crest]

Yeah I think 600k is my max I'll get with drasna without purple cookies.

[warped gulch]

Drasna can just go with Sing + other pairs

[brisk shale]

their names are pretty easy to mix up

[thin wren]

you bring in redlax for zerena?you lose space for Lucas

[thin wren]

zerena has the second one right?

[stoic crest]

I also wonder if meleotta or something is better.

[brisk shale]

ye

[thin wren]

you lose other boosters that way

strikes usually aren't as good as techs in st

there are exceptions like Nate ofc

[glossy token]

ok but what does zone Do. it feels like it would burn more time

like how much of a buff does it give compared to seun every sync

[warped gulch]

Red’s Tm has really long animation

I’ll say 2 Zone = 1.5 Red’s Tm

[thin wren]

zone gives 1.5x multiplier

and is less time than red tm like pyukuo said

[warped gulch]

“Pyuko”

[brisk shale]

and also you can fit 2 syncs in the 40s zone duration
while seun is only once

[brisk shale]

"Gnotle"

[glossy token]

so then how would lucas + zerena + ex bp barry (for ex support sync to start things off, but maybe colress instead and just sync with zerena from the start??) fare

[warped gulch]

You really want to save SEUN for stronger Sync

So BP Barry -> Zerena is better

[thin wren]

not very well

[pallid girder]

The most important is still Drasna takes BOTH zone + SEUN, and with even only 1 TM refresh she wins SSSerena w just 1.

[warped gulch]

Also if you use Restrain too early

It’ll run out

[thin wren]

zerena sync isn't that strong

[stoic crest]

Thank you everyone for the help

[thin wren]

I will always read your name like that

[warped gulch]

Not only you btw

[left vine]

Pyukomuko

[dry whale]

That's the best I got with Serena

Edit. Peaked at 777k

[glossy token]

vindication.gif

[stoic crest]

Does Chase have to be 3/5?

[glossy token]

i didnt know chase had dc utility!

[stoic crest]

Because that's even better than I'm getting with drasna.

[warped gulch]

He has always been

[glossy token]

i mean i dont have him

and i havent been seeing him in comps

so he just wasnt one i knew of to potentially consider

[warped gulch]

Just isn’t popular as NC Blue

[pallid girder]

The best f2p is still Ryuki. Alr hit 1M.
I actually haven't seen Drasna and SS Serena hit it.

[warped gulch]

You can see this channel pin

[glossy token]

im not doubting i just hadnt seen him in the list

mostly bc ive been checking more of 'ok here are the units i Have to work with in the first place'

[sullen lagoon]

With a Lucas EX or an extra TM refresh this would go close to 1M

[thin wren]

@stoic crest just go Lucas drasna and melony

[thin wren]

he's one of the best dc supports

[warped gulch]

Chase is really good, even better than NC Blue for Special partner

The problem ? Not many people have him

While NC Blue is just really popular

[stoic crest]

I have both

[warped gulch]

I have both too

[stoic crest]

Drasna is stuck at 600k

[warped gulch]

But chase only 1/5 for me so i still prefer NC Blue

[glossy token]

damn yall should share with the rest of us (making it so wildly clear this is a joke i am joking i am not at all upset or mad)

[warped gulch]

Do you have NC Rosa

I think you can try NC Nate/NC Bianca/NC Rosa for ST Dragon rank

[dry whale]

I've already did my score. I'm just trying to see if I could push Serena closer to the million.

[warped gulch]

No no, i only want to try it when rank happen

[crude sandal]

What are your teams for tomorrow's DC?

[warped gulch]

Bc you can use NC Rosa without para to spam Sing

[thin wren]

he also requires more rng

[crude sandal]

Also requires you target him first

Which is a one-sided thing

If he gets hit, his passive will annoy you

[thin wren]

will eusine be better or kris?

[crude sandal]

Not sure TBH

[thin wren]

he has Eva to avoid that but it's rng

eusine has like 200% sync total?

that's as much as Kris

[crude sandal]

He needs trap

[thin wren]

but he needs to trap

and no sure crit

[crude sandal]

I'll repeat this over and over; Dahlia is strong, but very annoying to set up

[thin wren]

yeah I will probably go kris, mina(or will may be better?) and bp barry

[crude sandal]

LySSandre is a Melony enabler

[thin wren]

burn is still bad tho and idt he gets 3 mil b move

dahlia should probably be better even with is9

[cloud timber]

yeah his b move won't be close to 3m

[crude sandal]

Does Dahlia need Superduper or nah?

[rose basalt]

huh didnt knw kris have so many decent sync multipliers in grid

[pallid girder]

She can try trigger it for her first sync.

And maybe right before the last sync too.

[thin wren]

only if you believe that you will dodge everything with the acc drops. Otherwise not worth imo aside from maybe final sync if she somehow has enough time

[crude sandal]

Then that means Chase + Melony

[pallid girder]

You should use Muddy Water once or twice before first sync with or without super sync, no?

It has -2 aoe spdef drop

[thin wren]

yeh

[crude sandal]

Dahlia has this as her first sync assuming you fully debuff everone's Sp. Def. to -6

Wait forgor about Kanto circle

[thin wren]

you can get it for first sync and maybe last sync but imo getting it for every sync isn't realistic

[stoic crest]

Do we have a graphic about the special ranked damage?

[warped gulch]

Not yet

[crude sandal]

There we go

[thin wren]

was gonna say that it looks too weak so maybe something is missing

[rose basalt]

where does it say we are getting another ranked dc

[warped gulch]

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1012256199128915968

[rose basalt]

o sht mustve missed it

[thin wren]

How to add bullets to your message btw

[crude sandal]

Conditions:

• 4 sync buffs
• SEUN
• All enemies have -6 Sp. Def.
• Kanto Circle
• Confused all enemies
• -1 water rebuff on all enemies

Using 5/5 energy

[thin wren]

I forgot the characters needed to do that

[dry whale]

Oh I understand now, after some quick dirty testing, I'm hitting around 1.2. with Rosa on the team with Nate and Bianca.

[cloud timber]

the no status parameter will cancel out sing animations

without needing para

[civic island]

Add one rebuff

[thin wren]

it's gonna be so much faster in st ranked dc

cuz no sing animations at all

[crude sandal]

I did, I forgot to include it

[rain copper]

but does the pop up appear? if yes, there is still a delay

[cloud timber]

there's no passives involved so if it's like champion stadium no status it just cancels the animation

same on latias's status shield

the passive-related immunities will stall it

[rain copper]

[crude sandal]

Imagine if we had no status condition rule for electric, poison and/or fire-weak ranked DC

[warped gulch]

[dry whale]

Yeah , I was lost for a second , had not got around to reading what's coming in rank.

I'm just wondering if it can make up for not having the paralysis triggering my skill gear. I'll leave a lot on the table. Just gotta see if the extra sync and nuke makes up for it.

[normal parcel]

Cynthia needs exr to apply AOE rebuff with sync? Or multi applies AOE rebuff already?

[thin wren]

if it works like cs params then there should be no pop up

[thin wren]

the latter

[normal parcel]

So that's a big win for Steven and lance

[crude sandal]

Too bad Steven and Lance's time has passed

[thin wren]

Lance will get his time in ranked

has steel st passed?

[crude sandal]

Only steel 3v3

[true locust]

Steven is king in hse lg

He in steel? Lol never

Dc

[thin wren]

Steven will probably be optimal support in steel st?

[true locust]

For wat lol?

[warped gulch]

-2 Rebuff

[thin wren]

I think the highest st steel nuke is marnie palentines

[warped gulch]

And Sync MUN

[thin wren]

and she already has zone

[true locust]

Haha rebuff him will need use corles or bp barry

And rose or gloria

[warped gulch]

Nuke with Colress

[true locust]

Since no sing spam

[thin wren]

Worth it if it's a 50% damage boost tbh

[true locust]

A you mean 3 vs 1

[thin wren]

yes ofc

[true locust]

Then think pal marnie

[warped gulch]

3vs3 already passed

[true locust]

Will be the best

[thin wren]

Yes but Steven will likely be her optimal support

[true locust]

No sure about it

[crude sandal]

Imagine if Gloria dominates steel 3v1 too

[thin wren]

what are parnie multipliers again

[thin wren]

doubt

[crude sandal]

Also, I should've thought of Melony/V. Thorton during steel 3v3

[thin wren]

Who would be nuker then?parnie? or does Lear have a stronger nuke

[crude sandal]

Gloria was the only real nuker back then

Also steel 3v3

[thin wren]

Steel 3v3 has Lear now

[crude sandal]

Gloria still outnukes him

[long silo]

I used Rose for 3v3 Steel. When it comes back I'll have Lear for it

[crude sandal]

Actually, Lear is slightly higher than Gloria, but Gloria has her own rebuff, so she's better than Lear

Thorton has slot compression for zone and paralyze along with support EXR

[slender venture]

Lear is definitely better than her

He can fire off a B move at the end

[crude sandal]

Gloria has her move too

And she also has her rebuff to match Lear

[slender venture]

Gloria is single target

And her rebuff is single target

[crude sandal]

Soon is 3v1 steel-weak

Gloria needs some luck because she needs TM MPR for SEUN

[long silo]

What would the Lear team be actually

[crude sandal]

V. Thorton and Melony

[long silo]

no V. Thorton

Well that's fun

He's who I also missed for Rose 2m+

[crude sandal]

You know what's funny?

A BP unit actually outnukes a MF

[long silo]

Who

[crude sandal]

BP Rose

[long silo]

Is this vs Gloria/Lear

[crude sandal]

Yes

BP Rose actually outnukes both of them

[long silo]

Well 3v1 not much question there

[pallid girder]

For st I think STate has a high chance to be the top.

[long silo]

I'll just use Colress

[crude sandal]

Too bad BP Rose is 1 energy off from the perfect build even with +10 energy

[long silo]

If I get Arc Steven, I can use Colress/Arc Steven/SC Selene

[crude sandal]

It even contains TM: Super Prep 9

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/26200/86300?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFBggLDRATFhcdICIuLw

[pallid girder]

STate: innate & +170% sync tile in grid, compress para + spdef down, can roll team +2 eva to dodge.

[crude sandal]

Huh, S. Tate is stronger

But how will you fully set up Rising Tide?

[crude sandal]

What's the team with him?

[thin wren]

really?

[crude sandal]

She outnukes him thanks to her -1 steel rebuff at 5/5

Without it, then she's only slightly behind him

[thin wren]

lear has big final b move tho

[long silo]

I have S. Tate but he's at 1/5

[crude sandal]

And Gloria has her move too

And Gloria can use it twice or more as opposed to Lear who can only use it once

[thin wren]

even with rebuff it's only st so she doesn't outnuke by that much, Lear has accel so maybe he gets a sync more and he has final b move(he has the strongest non 1 mp aoe extend range attack in the game btw)

[long silo]

Lear can use it more than once tho right? Unless you'll stack up SMUN

[thin wren]

it won't be much compared to Lear's final b move

also Lear probably gets in 1 more sync cuz sprint

[crude sandal]

Actually, Lear outnukes Gloria in general even if Gloria has rebuff, but since Gloria has SEUN, then she's better

[thin wren]

she has refreshable seun right?

[crude sandal]

20%, but yes

[long silo]

Yuck 20%

[crude sandal]

She has Sync Burst, but that's it

[long silo]

I respect those who refresh it

[crude sandal]

Like me during steel 3v3

[long silo]

Mad respect

Mine is 1/5 so I can't, but I wasn't even able to attempt to reset for 5th Rose Sync

[crude sandal]

The only disadvantage Gloria has over Lear is that Gloria doesn't have a way of debuffing defenses for her while Lear has his B Move to debuff Sp. Def., but would you really use his B Move twice?

[thin wren]

so she spends extra time using tm before sync right

[crude sandal]

It also contains -1 sync CD

[thin wren]

even more anim

while Lear has sprint ex

[crude sandal]

And her TM has sure crit unlike Lear who doesn't have a passive to guarantee crit

[thin wren]

btw Lear can get 8 smun on b move

[pallid girder]

Did you use pomatool? I believe they didn't count his passive "Royal Fortune" yet so it's debatable.

[thin wren]

and he can potentially get 1 more sync in

[crude sandal]

I did

I accounted both of them having SEUN, which Lear had an advantage, which I didn't want

[thin wren]

is circle a tm ?

[crude sandal]

Yes

[slender venture]

Yes

[long silo]

Yes

Are you accounting for +1 Sync

[thin wren]

7 smun then before b move