#Damage Challenge

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thin wren
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Lance is gonna be the real credit card unit

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he really wants 5/5 for the dc

true locust
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We will see wat he can do

scenic crow
true locust
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Im happy whit my team no need lance

thin wren
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Cynthia at least should be good here at 3/5

unique abyss
fluid anvil
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Based

thin wren
# scenic crow

you should be fine for move levels. Are you pulling for arc units?

scenic crow
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im ready all5

thin wren
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you have fairy comp I assume?

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I have fairy comp and I might have Cynthia if I pull early

normal parcel
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In Dragon st ranked NC Rosa, NC Bianca and NC Nate may be viable, since the no status rule means that you don't need paralysis to spam sing

fluid anvil
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Cynthia is "fine" at 3/5, but she still wants 4/5 for highest score. 5/5 I think no, Dustkicker is not for DC (?)

thin wren
fluid anvil
thin wren
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ohhh right

normal parcel
true locust
scenic crow
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yeah

fluid anvil
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4 PMUNs after every sync .. onto a 500+ BP move, like DAMN

thin wren
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what would be good partners for arc cynthia?

teal harness
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single dragon sucks, I tried zerena with ss brendan and colress, only got 200k

scenic crow
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i thank ash can top1

normal parcel
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Plus lance wants 4/5 minimum, great for who has him, but really premium

true locust
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Good luck:) hope you can beat skinny and the rest:)

thin wren
scenic crow
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YEAH!!

thin wren
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paid banner or reg banner?

true locust
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If you want arc pay make most sens banner

thin wren
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paid gives you an extra dupe of the unit and cake and like 10 more candy coins

unique abyss
thin wren
topaz roost
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Btw if I'm understanding this right, you're guaranteed a copy of the unit at 5 and 10 p2w multis?

true locust
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No

thin wren
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you get a candy for the unit

true locust
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Just 5 and 10 give candy for it

normal parcel
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Regular arc banner is the absolute worse non paid gems banner ever made

thin wren
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you still need to actually get the unit normal way

topaz roost
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Oh so you still have to pull the first one lol

scenic crow
thin wren
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yep

scenic crow
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This is not the result I want

true locust
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Yes

jolly violet
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the candy is nothing if you dont have the pair

thin wren
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I got 3k on first ranked dc I am happy

true locust
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Yeap candy is nice but need first sync pair get

scenic crow
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money power

thin wren
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if I do get Cynthia I might push for top 3k this time again

true locust
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Issue 🙂‍↔️💳 this is not a power any more in this game but rng🤣

normal parcel
unique abyss
thin wren
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I love gambling.

thin wren
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I have fairy comp required for 5 mil(don't have the move levels for 6 mil)

normal parcel
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But nope, is just worsen master Fair banner, and master Fair banners where alredy the worse

thin wren
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So I am hoping that can carry me

unique abyss
thin wren
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ehhh

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I am sure many people will have ss glad plus credit card arc units

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at least 1 mil is easy af

normal parcel
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I mean arc arc still better than mix, but that's the absolutely bottom of the barrel

thin wren
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so I get all the rewards either way

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at least mix banners are good banners

normal parcel
thin wren
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arc is just mf banner but with more pity

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no special pfs

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no limited time units that aren't featured

normal parcel
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I mean arc is the absolutely worse banner of the ones that can be summoned with free gems

latent plover
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What's the grid for 2 million Lucas strat

normal parcel
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Is just that you can't even touch mix without paid gems

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I mean if you are a whale paid route for arc is pretty good, guaranteed 3/5 if you reach pity

cloud timber
jolly violet
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We'll have a cheap version of Mix starting next month

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It called daily scout

normal parcel
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The problem with arc is that the free route is just an huge middle finger

scenic crow
fluid anvil
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Mix are the worst .. paid only and the mix pairs are just alright + all 3 have the same kit lol
and getting a limited that you actually wantf from Mix banner is basically impossible (without sparking for 30 000 paid gems)

thin wren
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it's a year long select tho...

copper otter
plush palm
copper otter
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4/5 btw

latent plover
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Can't afford being rafa'd

cloud timber
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yeah won't need drac accel

thin wren
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soften up is a waste

normal parcel
# jolly violet It called daily scout

Still you can't get mix units, this makes mix units the most p2w units (even more p2w than arc because at least you can still summon for arc with free gems)

scenic crow
latent plover
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Not really

plush palm
latent plover
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Soften Up reduces rng by a lot

thin wren
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Accel actually gives something (gauge)

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soften up simply reduces rng

latent plover
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The clear doesn't need it

thin wren
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it doesn't give you something

cloud timber
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if you have 8 overcap already i'd take soften up 100%

latent plover
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They have enough

normal parcel
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Who is the best for this DC? Lucas?

thin wren
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it's benefits can be achieved through resets

cloud timber
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the gauge isn't necessary for that specific team

plush palm
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alternatively grab +20 spatk

fluid anvil
plush palm
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if you really dont wanna go for soften up

scenic crow
normal parcel
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Nate is much behind?

latent plover
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Not by that much. He can do 1.8 million

thin wren
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if draconic Accel isn't needed grab draconic power instead of soften up

scenic crow
fluid anvil
pallid girder
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1.8M at most. Not really much behind but hasn't break 2M yet.

scenic crow
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this?

cloud timber
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yea that

normal parcel
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Don't have invested Lucas, so Nate it is

fluid anvil
latent plover
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Yup

scenic crow
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ok

latent plover
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With extra energy that's the grid

thin wren
# scenic crow

soften up doesn't do anything. Grab draconic power for a few thousand extra or grab the 20 special attack

fluid anvil
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soften-up is the best RoxanneThis

thin wren
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soften up is for cowards

warped gulch
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Smh deal with 50% for SEUN already

thin wren
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it doesn't make setup faster or boost damage

warped gulch
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I’d rather not deal with Sync crit problem anymore

thin wren
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it simply reduces rng

cloud timber
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which is a big deal

fluid anvil
cloud timber
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if you decide you want more you can toggle it off after

pallid girder
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It's indeed Soften Up saves your soul while spatk +20 give you more score potentially

thin wren
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no, rng reduction isn't really important when you are trying to hit as high as possible

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objectively soften up is never optimal unless it doesn't sacrifice any damage tile

fluid anvil
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Its optimal for my soul

thin wren
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now if you are a coward then it's fine

cloud timber
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it's not true when you get more viable runs with higher damage rolls that will outdo many damage tiles

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guy who doesn't play lg calls people cowards

thin wren
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I mean you can get a higher damage roll run with the more damage tile for even most points

thin wren
copper otter
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Thought? NanuLMFAO

thin wren
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but I do think soften up isn't worth it usually

thin wren
copper otter
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Not for damage challenge lmao

jolly violet
copper otter
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Can't even get 500k aside from ciris rn

fluid anvil
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C.Iris got shafted with both 5/5 grid and EX role

copper otter
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Anniraihan's multipliers are terrible, zerena's sync is nonexistent, can't do anything with ncnate. And i'm not candying.

unique abyss
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DC Wally PoryWoke

warped gulch
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Do you have SS Morty ?

copper otter
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Yea

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2/5

pallid girder
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ARaihan hit 1M.

warped gulch
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Anni Raihan can go with him

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And Aaron

copper otter
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Why aaron?

pallid girder
thin wren
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Ya all ready for when psychic aoe dc rolls around again?

warped gulch
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But 3/5 doesn’t

copper otter
warped gulch
warped gulch
copper otter
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How would you get full defenses that fast?

pallid girder
copper otter
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Also i can tell you rn, my damage will be 750k.

warped gulch
copper otter
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Sync levels do matter here since it powers up the sync move.

warped gulch
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But that team need cake for Morty tho

copper otter
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Rip

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Don"t have cake

warped gulch
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3/5’ll be much easier

cloud timber
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you won't need any defend order animations if you use full health heal order with team bracing infliction or w/e on aaron's grid

pallid girder
warped gulch
echo axle
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Is there any decent pair to do dmg?

cloud timber
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ah got it

scenic crow
copper otter
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Now hear me out.

scenic crow
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i think need accel

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🫠

thin wren
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When are gauge issues happening?

jolly violet
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why aren't you use Lucas speed+ when there are gauge issue?

unique abyss
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x speed is on the down left ig

jolly violet
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I though I saw 2/2

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nvm then

vernal condor
scenic crow
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I thought of a tip

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let me try

copper otter
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Ok no, ciris pissed me off now

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Two noncrits

glossy atlas
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So nc Bianca nc Nate and colress should be good right?

sacred badger
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And EXR?

lethal siren
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Why my Lucas did 2.2k in first sync and 1.65 something in rest syncs

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He critted

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Too

copper otter
sacred badger
split hill
copper otter
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I don't even have any candies to 3/5 someonecsince i'm saving them for 3/5 ss gladion

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For fairy DC

copper otter
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But problem is Ciris's self buffing is ass

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Haha funny +1 crit per tm

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Nc nate i won't be able to 1mil at 2/5.

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It was already hard enough for aoe barely getting 1 mil

lethal siren
vagrant ivy
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and do you have supports sync first before lucas

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my 1/5 lucas did 80k first sync after 4 sync buffs, dragon zone and kanto analysis

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gears might matter too

waxen hamlet
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Would it be best to sync twice with a support ex or just once

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Using barry and redlax

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Not syncing twice with the same unit

cursive linden
scenic crow
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no way

cursive linden
scenic crow
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fk

latent plover
scenic crow
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😭😭😭

sacred badger
cursive linden
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2M DahliaCheer

fluid anvil
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why y'all using nc blue and not Chase ? HilbertHmm

scenic crow
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ash is my rival

sacred badger
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Ash is using nc nate sheningans right?

warped gulch
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Idt so

latent plover
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He probably don't

scenic crow
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he probably don't

fluid anvil
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its just Lucas with better gears RoxanneThis

cursive linden
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Probably them Opp Para: 45% S-Move gears

copper otter
glossy atlas
latent plover
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Same grid as 3v3

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Nate can probably reach 2 million with perfect evasion luck if he squeezes one more sync into B-move

glossy atlas
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Yeah, got 1.4m enough for me

lethal siren
copper otter
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Can someone test 2/5 lucas for me?

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Is inertia really the one thing he needs to reach 1 mil?

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Like surely he can do it without it right? Hopium

sacred badger
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Thats 3R doalga

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75k for his first sync lol

bright niche
warped gulch
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Why Red tho

rare apex
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seup ig

warped gulch
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Bc Lucas already gives SEUN for himself (50%)

cursive linden
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Supp Sprint

copper otter
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Redlax is slower on his tm tho.

bright niche
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But i choose soften up 1 and extension also 70 energy grid

cloud timber
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don't need extension

bright niche
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So which is the best team

vagrant ivy
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whats the best dragon striker for f2p this time

copper otter
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Ah, that explains it, they opted out of Soften up

cloud timber
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nc blue melony lucas

vagrant ivy
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cyrus is 100% not pulling more than 400k

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zinnia is well, zinnia

warped gulch
copper otter
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These types make me hate Single target challenge

warped gulch
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Tomorrow he’ll be counted as f2p

copper otter
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Aoe target is good tho

crude sandal
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I feel like NC Blue/Melony are more prevalent in 3v1

vagrant ivy
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ah ryuki

bright niche
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Wht if we don't have NC blue

vagrant ivy
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right, he has double down 9 at 3/5

copper otter
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Wait, don't tell me Ryuki can actually 1 mil

lethal siren
copper otter
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I will ex him on the spot if true

bright niche
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If I give Lucas support ex role then I think he can achieve better numbers

cloud timber
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2/5+ larry could work

lethal siren
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Oh now I understand
I didn't have se up on Lucas on later syncs

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That's why dmg became low

vernal condor
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have seen a 600k or smth

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he's got burn so you can sleep spam, dunno which 3rd tho

copper otter
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There is no way.

vernal condor
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how many sync buffs

copper otter
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First sync max spdef drops and max spatk buffs

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Under dragon zone

vernal condor
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how do you get all of that lmao

copper otter
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Apparently dragon zone.

warped gulch
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Debuff to -6 SpDef already questionable

vernal condor
copper otter
vernal condor
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lol

warped gulch
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Ew

copper otter
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With dragon zone without sync buffs already hit 100k

fair mist
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he has brainpower innate right

copper otter
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Yea

fair mist
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so good sync nuke and ok dps

cloud timber
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you'd have to compare with something else under the same conditions for it to actually mean something

young tartan
copper otter
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Without dragon zone

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But with a lot more variables needed

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Sandstorm, and trap will waste time.

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Also that's with the same variables, -6 spdef and +6 spatk

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At +2. Ryuki's doing 100k

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I might actually try it

sacred badger
cloud timber
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more often than not you won't be max debuffing spdef

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like 2m doesn't use more than -1

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if even that

copper otter
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That's what i'm trying to figure out here.

warped gulch
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@vernal condor my Anni Raihan is 5/5 EX +10E

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To to make sure

lethal siren
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I will get silver and crobat next

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Flying wish

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Don't have Skyla

long silo
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Hoping to 5/5 Raihan in the PF rerun

copper otter
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Ok hear me out...

warped gulch
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No stop cooking

copper otter
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Listen, alola circle, venom drench spam, and max spdef drops

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Hear

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Me

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Out

warped gulch
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But gauge

copper otter
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Move gauge boost

warped gulch
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Not enough to spam

long silo
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Who is the spammer anyway

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Oleana?

copper otter
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I just said, oleana

long silo
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Oh I missed it oops

true locust
copper otter
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No, they're not 5/5

lethal siren
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How much can ryuki do?

copper otter
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Apparently 100k at max spdef debuffs and +2 sync

lethal siren
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Nc nate and Lucas together can 1m ig

copper otter
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Non-3/5?

lethal siren
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3/5

copper otter
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Skip

lethal siren
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I have 2/5 nate

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So can't do much

copper otter
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Not candying anyon

lethal siren
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Did 700k with that

pallid girder
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3/5 Lucas do 1M himself.

lethal siren
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Colress for twave spam

lethal siren
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I will wait for a more good showcase with him

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Then will try again

pallid girder
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Ig you don't have NCBlue or Chase?

lethal siren
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I have NC blue

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And chase too

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Who is better
Chase pr nc blue

warped gulch
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Idk why i’m trying this

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All crit btw WEEZing

rare apex
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based

cloud timber
warped gulch
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I think mostly bc NC Blue just more consistent

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Chase really need to dodge

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And need his Circle to be better than Blue

vernal condor
pallid girder
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Technically if you dodge every moves Chase > NC Blue, but we know that's not gonna happen.

fluid anvil
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3/5 Chase should be better tha nc blue most of the time regardless of RNG. I always get 7 syncs with Chase-Melony
on this stage he should be even better since it buffs spdef (?) which negates blue debuffs

unique abyss
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quite good I think

long silo
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I was very confused at how this happened

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Turns out for some reason I removed Inertia PrycePain

cosmic wing
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Wait, 3/5 Anni Raihan can reach 1m right? He is the only dragon tech I have in 3/5 SophoKEK

long silo
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I triggered none of the SEUN PrycePain

cloud timber
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keep resetting and the game is guaranteed to give you at least some seun

long silo
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I will later lol

cloud timber
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i'd still like to get seun on every sync but not tonight

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yea same

long silo
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The non inertia run triggered 4 SEUN lol

vagrant ivy
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people rolling for lucas's SEUN proc this DC:

fluid anvil
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"people rolling for ArCynthias TM refreshes on ranked DC"

tender patrol
unique abyss
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WW3 is only for weather, not zones/terrains right?

fluid anvil
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yup

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btw WW3 is an extra free +10% damage for Cynthia .. although you pay for it with sand chip damage

lethal siren
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1m done

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Used these gears

unique abyss
civic island
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3/5 EX Lucas
3 SE out of 5, I'll take it

crude sandal
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Anyone have 5/5 NC Nate?

prisma quail
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Woo. Didn't have to cake dialga

normal parcel
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What's the best NC Nate team?

crude sandal
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Maybe NC Rosa/Redlax

normal parcel
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No bianca?

crude sandal
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Redlax provides para

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For Rosa to Sing spam along with SEUN

lethal siren
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Next is water triple

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What's the team

civic island
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Kris Red sing spammer

lethal siren
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I am sure nc Serena can do very good

crude sandal
civic island
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Or rain + bpBarry

lethal siren
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Just think of it as single target

civic island
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She's great on type

lethal siren
crude sandal
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Doesn't Kris need speed buff?

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For Inertia

lethal siren
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+4 TabithaHehe

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Fleet feet

crude sandal
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And she also needs to buff herself

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Attack and crit

civic island
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She perma crits

lethal siren
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Idt she can do enough without rain

civic island
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With enough tms or w Build Up grid

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Or just going w red

civic island
crude sandal
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LySSandre/Dahlia/Sing Spammer

lethal siren
lethal siren
civic island
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Dahlia is the cheat code LarryDead

lethal siren
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Nc Serena can -2 countdown with bmove

crude sandal
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Need to use Teeter Dance for Interference Sync, use Muddy Water for triggering Superduper

nova remnant
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oh yeah we're getting a new DC this month right? at least that's what i heard from yesterday

crude sandal
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Ranked DC

nova remnant
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yeah ranked

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do we know the typing?

crude sandal
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Fairy, dragon and ground

nova remnant
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i'm assuming dragon and ground are restricted

copper otter
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2 of em will be dominated by the Rks units

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Yes

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Dragon is no status or interference SophoKEK
Ground is physical moves only SophoKEK

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Both of which are basically just no rules

nova remnant
crude sandal
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Luckilu we're getting the Super BP Units EX, which means EX Dana

copper otter
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Trueeee

unique abyss
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Lmao with NC Nate I'm in master 52 SophoKEK

copper otter
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But yea, ss gladion, rks cynthia and rks lance is easy top 20

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Have fun

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Also funnily enough the damage challenge ARE THE RKS UNIRS.

civic island
copper otter
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We only have two lmao

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And both are mediocre

civic island
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And Naomi cant be exd

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Rip aoe

copper otter
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Oh no, lodge rika is nerfed, she won't bbe able to get 100k FantinaNoooooo

fluid anvil
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ss gladion needs fully invested SS wally and fully invested Penny though. Wally is fine at 3/5 I think, but Penny needs to be 5/5 - for highest score
RKS Cynthia doesnt need anything, just the usual ncblue + Melony or w/e
RKS Lance might want either Lucas or NC Nate, I'm not sure what his best team is

copper otter
lethal siren
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I wonder how will bp lusamine do in triple grass

civic island
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So its Lance + Lucas?
Lance sync doesnt look that powerful
Also wtf his multiplier is at 4/5

fluid anvil
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Lance has 360 base sync instead of 240 tech
and +150 total purple tiles

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But his grid multiplier is only 100%

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and yes its at 4/5 lol

copper otter
true locust
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Hard tell wat lance can do we never have arc units befor😂

copper otter
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Also all 5 sync nodes are easy to get.

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One is literally free

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No energy used

true locust
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Zone and seun for him? Hmm its realy hard

unique abyss
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I can't break above 1.6M with Nate GeetaTired

copper otter
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You can use HoliJasmine and Melony for Rks lance

true locust
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We dont have a unit wat have spam and this

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If pick zone and seun no spam

copper otter
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Honestly, he doesn't need both

true locust
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For high score he need both

copper otter
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-6 def drops in one turn is more than enough

true locust
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Zone give alot

copper otter
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50%, but so does rebuff

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Also 50%

true locust
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-6 def drop it will cost time

copper otter
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It's one turn lmao

civic island
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Lucas provide zone, supp exr and can eventually sync benefetting the rebuffs if he alrd score 2M that would be even higher
Plus Lance final bmove, i feel it will be an ash sorta thing so 999k for free

fluid anvil
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-6 defence is a 1.29x damage boost
zone is 1.5x
one rebuff is 1.3x
two rebuff is 1.5x
three rebuff is 1.6x

copper otter
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One turn is an instant -6 drop

true locust
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Zone is better

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You need 3 rebuff to have more then zone

copper otter
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He already has rebuff applied and has -3 rebuff at 5/5

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But also WailordWhale

true locust
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He have -3 rebuff at 5/5?

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Jesus

civic island
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So top will be be ncRosa Lucas ArcLance?

copper otter
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Yes, and it's free

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It costs no energy

true locust
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Seun have more then zone?

copper otter
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It's 50%

civic island
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Its equal

true locust
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So zone better then

copper otter
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Zone has to have extension to be worth the animation time imo

fluid anvil
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3 rebuffs > 2 rebuff = zone > SEUN

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for 3v1

civic island
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With sing spam yeah
Red tm takes time tbh

fluid anvil
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for 3v3 zone > all, unless rebuffs are AoE

copper otter
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Rks lance is -1 rebuff aoe

true locust
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Then can be lance lucas and some one else

copper otter
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-2 ST

lethal siren
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I think nc Serena can do 3-4m
She gives -3 rebuff

copper otter
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She can only do -2

civic island
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ncRosa ncNate arcLance for triple MonkaScottie

copper otter
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And she takes forever to apply it

fluid anvil
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actually I think he does -2 AoE .. Multi roles do AoE rebuffs even on non Strikers

copper otter
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That's only the passive, not the sync

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Sync isn't aoe

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Unless striker

true locust
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Nc rosa. ? Hmm do we have any spamer from kanto?

slender venture
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sync is also aoe

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confirmed by a twitter post

copper otter
#

MULTI SYNC IS AOE?!

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WTF

slender venture
#

the rebuff applied

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not the damage itself

copper otter
#

No that's the PASSIVE

civic island
true locust
#

Wat multi sync is aoe?

copper otter
#

That is not the sync

fluid anvil
#

no I think sync is always AoE too - for the rebuffs only, not for the actual sync damage

copper otter
slender venture
#

The effect of lowering rebuff on sync from the EX role of Multi is AoE

fluid anvil
#

I tihnk, not 100% sure

slender venture
#

seperate from the arc passive

copper otter
#

That's broken af

slender venture
#

so 2 waves of AoE rebuffs, whatever EXR you are

copper otter
#

I was under rthe impression it was just st

true locust
#

They need sell 500 scout points

#

But you will remeber this 😉 pay banner presents look too good:) so i expect its one time only

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For welckome new arc scam

civic island
#

I think is single bcs how its worded

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For lance ofc

fluid anvil
#

yeah multi syncs have 300-360 BP, all do AoE rebuffs -1 and have sync innates
-Lance has the normal tech innate multiplier
-Cynthia does +2 PMUN per sync (+ Mega)
-Steven does 20% AoE heal I think ( + Mega)

slender venture
#

Twitter post confirmed it's AoE

civic island
#

His ex sync effect?

copper otter
#

I need to see this.

normal parcel
true locust
#

Cynthia amd steven is mega from start or they mega like they base units after 1 sync?

copper otter
#

Mega after first sync

true locust
#

Wat the hell?

#

Jesus scam

#

They did not even change this?

fluid anvil
#

the normal EX effect is just the AoE rebuffs -1, for all 3
the EX roles are Striker/Tech/Support

copper otter
#

What does the halos even do during sync?

#

Like is it just flashiness?

normal parcel
#

At least they have full power sync like SS Serena

true locust
#

Mega have way more sts so you miss alot damage from 1 sync

fluid anvil
#

yes Cynthia and Steven are Megas WITHOUT any Mega tax 🙂

pallid girder
#

They don't have nerf sync dmg & get higher stat. It's actually a win imo.

normal parcel
warped gulch
#

@copper otter

pallid girder
#

Lance for whatever reason don't get high stat.

vernal condor
#

They were afraid of his nuke

copper otter
#

That HAS TO BE HER EXR

prisma quail
true locust
#

Lance dont have maxed

fluid anvil
copper otter
#

That cannot be just EX

warped gulch
#

They only said Multi, not any from EXR

sacred badger
slender venture
#

It's AoE from the start

warped gulch
#

“Raise to 6 Star EX

fluid anvil
cosmic wing
#

+reading

prisma quail
cosmic wing
#

Read better rei

lethal siren
#

Sync multi is aoe
That's the ex bonus for multi role pairs

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I mean rebuff

sacred badger
#

hmmmmmm

copper otter
#

That's actually dumb af

prisma quail
#

Why?

pallid girder
#

I mean he's a 500 pity pair. JUST LET HIM HIT HARD.

lethal siren
#

So -2 rebuff

sacred badger
#

guess we can test tomorrow then

prisma quail
#

It means Dragonite and Metagross also have AOE rebuff

slender venture
#

it makes a difference for ArcSteven and Lance, Cynthia doesnt care

sacred badger
#

btw

fluid anvil
#

EXRoles are just for more damage
Cynthia gets AoE
Lance gets x1.5
Steven supp = 2 sync buffs

sacred badger
#

i'm gonna be 3/5 arc cynthia immediately

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then 5/5 eventually.

copper otter
#

That is so dumb SophoKEK

warped gulch
#

But that how it works smh. Enjoy Aoe -2 Rebuff

civic island
#

ExR without cake
VoloStonks

warped gulch
sacred badger
#

i'm just praying i get 2/5 cynthia hitting pity though.

slender venture
#

but also keep in mind, their syncs are special, they are all 300 BP, even with mega and even with innate multiplier (like Lance)

sacred badger
#

but if iget her reasonably safe for another pity, whoknows

normal parcel
#

Just noticed arc units have 300 BP syncs at 1/5 do they even have stronger syncs than regular units

slender venture
#

Lance has a 50% stronger sync than any tech just by comparing BP

normal parcel
#

Generally strikers have 300 BP at 5/5 I think

vernal condor
#

300 BP is normal type strike/supp/field bp
Except they have innates and passives on them too

slender venture
#

yes but those are 360 at 5/5

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20% stronger

vernal condor
#

It's just powercreep for the sake of powercreep lmao it's kinda stupid

fluid anvil
#

5/5 Cynthia has 360 BP, yes .. + Mega
+another 40 Atk from Striker EXR TabithaHehe

slender venture
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That is why we are saying Arc Steven will deal decent damage, 450 atk + haymaker + 300 BP sync

civic island
#

Or sny other striker exr

normal parcel
#

They are just trying to justify 500 scout points without having to do real efforts, like it takes no efforts to just increase the numbers an increase the price

civic island
#

I just wish they had better outfit

normal parcel
civic island
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~~ Develop tera gimmick ~~
Godly broken units

normal parcel
vernal condor
#

25% more expensive ClayClown

civic island
#

Depend on how they are going to perform
They better be worth that

vernal condor
#

Just get lucky 5head

fluid anvil
#

20% more sync BP = 25% more gems ArvenSurrender

normal parcel
#

At this point I don't know if the best strategy is to start skipping absolutely everything and go all in on arc units

vernal condor
#

Fav > Arc > Skip basically WEEZing

crude sandal
#

Imagine a MF that surpasses the arc units

lethal siren
#

Is this good for triple water

waxen star
civic island
#

I think is more on the usefulness overall
Powercree HAS to happen with those typings

normal parcel
#

However 4/5 for lance is really brutal

waxen star
#

Force you to go with the same sync pairs 15 times more

civic island
#

Yeah

crude sandal
lethal siren
thin wren
normal parcel
#

Steven i guess is the least useful for dc

fluid anvil
#

oh yeah Cynthia and Steven also got unique effects on their syncs, that Supports/Strikers usually dont have
-Become Mega Garchomp until the end of battle. Increases the user’s Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by two ranks
-Become Mega Metagross until the end of battle. Restores the HP of all allied sync pairs by approximately 20% of their maximum HP.

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so that + 360 BP + Mega

vernal condor
#

Lance shafted one again

pallid girder
#

Steven sadly doesn't have para and speed.

fluid anvil
#

Lance has the normal tech innate

vernal condor
#

Synchro Healing as a base effect is broken WEEZing

lethal siren
normal parcel
#

Lance has the tech + boosted bp

slender venture
crude sandal
fluid anvil
#

with grid Cynthia does total 4 PMUN from every sync .. 2 syncs = 8 PMUNs

lethal siren
#

I can remove scorching sync 2 for furious brain

thin wren
crude sandal
normal parcel
#

Rebuff + support ex however is good

fluid anvil
fluid anvil
crude sandal
normal parcel
#

Rosa at +4 speed generally is enough if rolex

crude sandal
#

Nate has speed buff with his TM

normal parcel
#

She has really high base speed from sprint rolex

pallid girder
#

I just checked and Lance has +150 sync bp in total. Cynthia and Steven only +100.

#

Lance's +50 is 0 energy btw.

slender venture
#

they all have +50 for free at 3/5

fluid anvil
#

What was the NC Nate comp that got 4.5M in 3v3 Dragon ? with NC Bianca?

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or colress?

crude sandal
#

NC Bianca and Colress

unborn otter
#

What’s the best grid for 4/5 8e Lucas?

fluid anvil
#

well you would lose Biancas faster supp sync and the super buffed Unova circles. But gain -2 dragon rebuffs
also colress does -6 defences quickly, Lance would need to use Giga Impact 3 times, for each enemy, that cant be fast
but maybe its better

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sing is faster than colress

thin wren
icy pendant
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What’s going to do better for me this DC between 3/5 EXR Zerena and 3/5 20/20 Alt Iris? Those are really my only two options and no, I can’t EX Iris because then I won’t have enough resources to EX the anni pairs as they release

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I think it’s still Iris but wanted to double check

fluid anvil
#

Iris

fair mist
#

iris

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even though she got SCAMMED

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with sprint

fluid anvil
#

Serena can get like 500K at best, maybe 600K

warped gulch
#

Non EX Iris better than EXR Serena ?

icy pendant
#

ig 2/5 EX BT Leon is also in the mix but without multipliers he kinda sucks right

warped gulch
fluid anvil
#

oh wait non EX Iris ? hmm, probably still better

fair mist
#

and his animations eat up time

icy pendant
#

Iris actually has multipliers which is why I’m fine giving up a 1.5x

fluid anvil
#

3/5 EXed Iris does 1M
so 3/5 non-EX must do like 650-700K or so?

icy pendant
#

oh I can work with 700k

fluid anvil
#

3/5 EX BT Leon can also get 1M, barely. It was done on 3v3 dragon

icy pendant
#

I’m 83 away from being able to redeem my first dupe so regardless I’ll have a healthy stockpile to grab DC Silver once he drops

warped gulch
icy pendant
#

I don’t have a candy to spend at the moment, only yellow ones which the anni pairs take priority on

fluid anvil
#

I would never candy any of the Leon pairs for anything .. unless you are a Leon fan ofc
he kinda got shafted in PMEX

normal parcel
#

Nemona I guess is easy skip since gladion is better for DC, Lear should be good but is the best for steel AOE?

fair mist
#

i mean

#

do you have a different aoe steel dps

hidden junco
#

Just to confirm, what are Lucas' main partners here atm?

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I was going with Variety Lance / Elio for a first run

fluid anvil
#

I dont think SS Lear will beat Glorias 3.8M

crude sandal
hidden junco
#

Hmm, is that superior to the rebuff?

crude sandal
#

Sing spam is more prevalent in 3v1

unborn otter
#

Dragon gear, cs2, missed one crit

crude sandal
#

Less so in 3v3

hidden junco
#

I know, but that was also Sing spam lol

warped gulch
hidden junco
#

Since Lance gives paralysis and rebuff at the same time

warped gulch
#

Also 2 Supp and more Sync dmg from Blue

hidden junco
#

Do you go for all 3 Sup EX?

crude sandal
#

Because support EX is better, and Blue gives Sp. Def. debuff too

warped gulch
#

SpDef debuff really useless here

#

They use X SpDef

crude sandal
#

Ah

hidden junco
#

My Lucas is 5/5 EXR for context

crude sandal
warped gulch
#

Ngl, i really think Lance is really good

#

But maybe bc not many people have him to use

hidden junco
#

I was mainly going Lance over Elio because that lets me save one X Speed MP

#

For the SE Up

warped gulch
#

I used V Lance with Melony

hidden junco
#

Uh, over Melony

#

Lance with Elio I mean

warped gulch
#

Is Lucas’s gauge better than Raihan ?

hidden junco
#

He will inevitably get +6, but I assume not

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Due to Raihan's accel

vagrant ivy
#

lucas gets command freebie 9

umbral sleetBOT
#

STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAREX_0
‎ Type: TYPE_DRAGON‎ ‎ Weak: TYPE_FAIRY

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 677
ATK: 336 | DEF: 162
SPA: 336 | SPD: 162
SPE: 376

Acquisition:

ACQUISITION_POKEFAIR Poké Fair

Alternates:

10257000000 Raihan & Duraludon
10257000001 Raihan & Gigalith

Lucky Skill: Head Start 1, Weathered Warrior 3
Lucky Skill: Head Start 1, Weathered Warrior 3

hidden junco
#

You won't be spamming Lucas' moves

vagrant ivy
#

so no need to worry about not having gauge to roar of time at the end

hidden junco
#

It's all about gauge generation for Melony to not mess up

umbral sleetBOT
warped gulch
#

Yikes

#

270 speed compared to 488 speed

hidden junco
#

And Atmospheric Acceleration

pallid girder
#

SS Lear has 512 spatk, 2x innate + 2x sync multiplier in grid + def circle + more dmg boost from circle related passive.

fluid anvil
#

one of LEars grid multipliers is only 20% tho
and he lacks the Tech x1.5

#

But his B-move hits hard

pallid girder
#

Innate + Brainpower. Also Gloria doesn't have 1.5x tech sync boost too.

fluid anvil
#

Gloria had that SEUN on TM

warped gulch
#

But Gloria has 50% more Sync dmg on enemy when they already Sync

civic island
pallid girder
#

If you mean Gloria's innate; it's 100% not 50% like all the techs.
And like I said Lear has innate too. He's a sprint and all sprint has innate.

hidden junco
#

50% is on her DPS

thin wren
fluid tendon
#

Is there any reason to use Melony or Elio over Rosa as a sing spammer? I feel like I see Melony a lot more often than Rosa

pallid girder
#

Yeah the only thing SSLear is worse is 1 rebuff (on only 1 opponent btw) and SEUN.

thin wren
thin wren
fluid tendon
thin wren
#

or if your dd has support exr

#

like in fire

warped gulch
#

Or you are Nate, or Fighting, or Psychic

fluid tendon
#

Not sure why people run NC Blue + Melony over Rosa in that case

#

Since you get the master passive boost from Rosa and better speed over Melony

warped gulch
#

Bc Melony can Sync

thin wren
#

double support sync is really nice

warped gulch
#

While with Rosa you need to pay B Move tax

thin wren
#

master passives don't boost syncs btw

fluid tendon
#

O yeah, forgot about that. So double support sync is preferred over single and going straight to the damage dealer then?

warped gulch
#

And if you need gauge, most of the time Elio just better

fluid anvil
#

with sing spam you get 6-7 syncs and yes double support sync is the best then

warped gulch
#

But Elio really rng so i rarely use him

pallid girder
#

The rebuff difference is not that potent even without ArSteven. Lear has circle and presumably 1.4x dmg boost when circle is on to compensate it.

thin wren
thin wren
fluid anvil
thin wren
pallid girder
#

^^ also circle is 1.2 at base.

fluid anvil
#

Brainpower 100%
Pasio C (Defensive): Team P-Moves ↑ & S-Moves ↑ 2 = 20%
passive is 20-30%
so total 140-150%, not counting CS2
and another x1.1 from circle

fluid anvil
crude sandal
#

Lear's circle is Solidarity?

fluid anvil
#

Pasio Circle (Defensive)

crude sandal
#

Yeah, but why rechange the name of it to that?

vagrant ivy
#

anyone tried out ryuki yet

pallid girder
#

Oh yeah defensive only 1.1.

fluid anvil
# thin wren inate?

Didnt count it, since everyone (Tech/Sprint) has it by default. Gloria has x2 innate too

pallid girder
#

The real issue is there's really no team can compress zone + seun + spam ig.

thin wren
#

You can go colress Steven and Lear

thin wren
fluid anvil
#

They should yeah, if you do 2 support syncs first

thin wren
#

still think Lear will break 4 mil

fluid anvil
#

he will thanks to Arc Steven, but so will gloria if she made 3.8M without Steven

pallid girder
#

But it's assume the mad man who do >3M for Gloria rolled SEUN for her every syncs.
If they're not Lear would prob break her record easy just with zone alone.

thin wren
#

gloria has 150% every sync as well right?

fluid anvil
#

I hope the Arc Ghost pair is a support so they can boost SSR Cynthia to near 6M instead of replacing her as the DD CynthiaSmug

thin wren
#

who has higher attacking stat

fluid anvil
#

Lear

#

Gloria is really carried by her SEUN TM

thin wren
#

isn't Gloria total 150% counting seun?

sacred badger
#

is that for water one, summer gloria?

thin wren
#

no

#

steel aoe

sacred badger
#

oh steel one?

#

oh

fluid anvil
#

Steel one has the highest DC score of all Glorias
Flying had highest 3v1 score among Glorias

thin wren
#

why do we have so many gloras

pallid girder
rain copper
#

because money

fluid anvil
#

Gloriadev was cooking

thin wren
#

are glora memes that popular

rain copper
#

you underestimate the yuri

fluid anvil
#

I dont think she is a huge moneymaker, just someone likes her on the dev team

thin wren
warped gulch
#

I mean we have Gloria, Summer Gloria and DJ Gloria before Victor

#

Surely she is really popular

fluid anvil
#

SEUN isnt just another +50%, its a seperate multiplicative x1.5

#

thats a big difference

thin wren
#

how much is their attack difference

lethal siren
#

I will try nc serena, nc calem and ss lysandre team for once

acoustic chasm
#

I am cooked PrycePain
1/5 Lucas
My best option is Ryuki, how much does he get?

cursive linden
#

Ryuki's multiplier is only Double Down 9

#

Sure, it's a 100% sync damage boost but that's it?

civic island
#

Ye, 90% ontype and that's it
Tech ofc

vernal condor
#

That's not a good grid
You dont want Sync burst you want TM MPR instead, and go for scorching touch for sing spam so your 3rd can be whatever you want

pallid girder
#

I mean he's a tech striker in genpool, ofc they'll make him a bit meh.

cursive linden
civic island
#

In terms of dmg
Both dragon tech genpools are quite mediocre

pallid girder
#

Previous genpool techs are not tech + striker. That's a big difference.

civic island
#

Sadly there's not much to compare for cakes

#

But he's also very limited
Still qe don't have many options as dragon f2p (Unless dc Wally)

covert geyser
#

I like how most people here are flexing their 1m with lucas

Meanwhile I don't got much except Serena

dry whale
restive galleon
#

How am I this badArvenSurrender

vernal condor
fluid anvil
dry whale
vernal condor
#

tf

restive galleon
#

But yeah what the hell how did I get so low damage

dry whale
#

You have to dodge or paralysis a few to have the time

vernal condor
#

yeah figured

warped gulch
#

Drop Lance

#

Lance is holding NC Nate back

crude sandal
#

Or NC Rosa

restive galleon
#

No ncrosa

#

How does melony help?

acoustic chasm
warped gulch
#

That what we are using a lot rn

tired narwhal
#

Who are people using with Zerena?

half salmon
#

Best teamcomp in your opinion? Thank you

tired narwhal
#

I don’t see a single zerena clear in pins

dry whale
dusk plume
#

best I can do since all my dragon techs are 1/5

#

I don't think Zerena 1m is possible rn

tired narwhal
#

Damn that’s unfortunate

#

I didn’t wanna candy any of my 1/5 pairs

normal parcel
#

Not too bad

#

What's the best NC Nate got? 1.8?

pallid girder
#

Yes. The highest I've seen is 1.8M

unique abyss
tired narwhal
#

I’ll prob wait to see if someone enters a 1m clear with zerena

normal parcel
lapis yarrow
normal parcel
#

This is with the right gears

normal parcel
#

Don't know if redlax comp could do better, but I'm fine with 1.76m

lapis yarrow
normal parcel
#

The strat is simple just spam twave and use 3 bianca moves with defense destroyer to reduce defense to -6

#

Use 3 b moves

#

With a dodge or a full para you should be able to fit 3

lapis yarrow
#

b move before or after Nate sync?

normal parcel
#

B move after the the last 3 Nate syncs

#

Bianca > Nate > Nate > bmove > Nate > bmove > Nate > bmove

lapis yarrow
#

ok ty I'll try that

normal parcel
#

I think you need at least 1 dodge

#

Or a full para

lapis yarrow
#

which move uses defense destroyer again?

normal parcel
#

With +3 evasion a dodge is likely

normal parcel
#

Don't touch bianca's b move

lapis yarrow
#

ok so use 3 sacted swords one after another?

tired narwhal
#

So there is 0 gauge with this team :/

lapis yarrow
#

do reg dragon gears suffice?

normal parcel
#

To score 1m definitely

#

To score 1.7 not

lethal siren
#

I used these

normal parcel
#

Getting+20 attack from pin is better than critastrophe 2 and probably+80 is better too than the 2% moves and 3% sync boost

lethal siren
#

I didn't have any other pain for him and I didn't wanted to try for that TabithaHehe but I got 1m which is enough for me

normal parcel
#

What's the highest score Nate got?

dry whale
warped gulch
#

Can Larry’s B Move apply Para from grid ?

#

Bc he never para from his B Move

lapis yarrow
normal parcel
#

My strat requires 3/5 exr bianca, but I guess 2/5 could work too (but probably you can use only 2 b moves)

civic island
normal parcel
#

Circle extension and defense destroyer where pretty important for my run, but without those I guess at least 1m should be doable

pallid girder
scenic crow
#

2.3m now

true locust
scenic crow
#

can2.4m

#

but unlucky

#

if one more paralysis 100%can 2.4m up maybe 2.5m

dry whale
#

Man close to the 1.7.

cerulean gull
#

This the best I got with Lucas

fallen trail
#

who’s stronger nuke-wise between alt iris and lucas

cerulean gull
#

Iris's nuke takes too long to set up

#

By the time I was ready, I only managed like 0.7 mill

fallen trail
#

hmm ok

cerulean gull
#

It's mostly because Iris can't buff herself reliably

#

She either needs help or at least 4/5; optimally 5/5 which is whack

#

otherwise I'd probably have just stuck in like Anni N for 3 Noble Roars and be done with it

#

or Ghetsis but Anni N got that juicy Master Passive

tired narwhal
cerulean gull
#

how much are your Iris/Lucas respectively

tired narwhal
#

Me?

cerulean gull
#

ye

tired narwhal
#

Like normal iris?

#

Lucas is 1/5

cerulean gull
#

Alt

tired narwhal
#

And non EX

cerulean gull
#

Hydreigon Iris

tired narwhal
#

I dont think I have alt

#

Idk what pairs this Anni will be taking tech move candies

cerulean gull
#

I think 5/5 Alt Iris has the potential for most efficient nuke comp

#

but like, it's 5/5 lol

tired narwhal
#

And I’ve avoided using Lucas because Zerena clears all dragon stuff for me

civic island
#

Fast para w omni debuffs

#

But also nothing else

pallid girder
#

Or you can wait tmr and get lucky with Ryuki.
He's proven that he can do 1M too (tho with premium teammates)

cerulean gull
#

technically the most efficient is just Anni N with 3 Noble Roars

#

however, Iris basically needs 5/5 AND 10 energy apparently for the strongest nuke

cerulean gull
#

i mean I can just toss in Colress if I have to

#

even adds to Anni N's Master Passive

civic island
#

It doesn't affect sync

cerulean gull
#

ah, well at least there can be a final Dragon Rush

fallen trail
#

4 syncs w super command procced for 2 of them which is average since its a 50/50 chance

true locust
fallen trail
#

if i got 4/4 super command i could shoot higher but thats a lot for a couple more tickets lol

pallid girder
tired narwhal
#

Which region

#

Are they in

pallid girder
#

Ryuki is in Alola.

tired narwhal
#

Gotchu thanks

#

BP pairs tomorrow too right?

glossy umbra
#

Whats a good f2p team for this rn?

tired narwhal
#

All of the runs in the pin say they aren’t f2p friendly so idk

glossy umbra
#

I have 1/5 c nate ss serena

#

Who could I pair with them?

#

Do I sync with melony twice before syncing with nate?

cerulean gull
#

there is no need to sync more than once with Melony

vernal condor
#

It's to delay the field

cerulean gull
#

that said, in my experience you do want to do 3rd sync with field ex

#

yeah

#

so maybe bring like 2 support exes if u can fit it somehow

glossy umbra
#

My nate doesn’t have field ex yet so I bring lucas for dragon terrain

cerulean gull
#

Lucas itself is already DC worthy if he's 3/5

glossy umbra
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Hes 1/5

cerulean gull
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unfort

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tbf I did have to power up mine from 2/5 so I get it

glossy umbra
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So sync once with melony before syncing with nate?

cerulean gull
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probably

glossy umbra
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Alr

cerulean gull
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then again...

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since ur already bringing Lucas anyway

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you could just sync 2nd with Nate and then have Lucas refresh Zone once it starts running out

glossy umbra
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Yea im doing that

cerulean gull
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yeah spend all ur syncs on Nate after Melony's

glossy umbra
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Alr

normal parcel
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What's the best NC Nate score so far?

covert geyser
glossy umbra
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Mine sucked but mine was at 1/5

pallid girder
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I'll try Lucas Ryuki tmr if I'm not unlucky lol

lapis yarrow
civic island
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Maybe something with ncLeaf to keep sun up

covert geyser
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no v lance

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No leaf

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Poor

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Broke

pallid girder
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Raihan prob need 5/5.

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Also this. Not 1M but really close.
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civic island
dry whale
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Ok, I feel like I can hit 1.9m with this team.

Had to remove charging infliction from thunder wave to make up the time

vernal condor
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How do you even spam without infliction

civic island
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Circle accels?

pallid girder
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You have gauge?BarryPogChamp

dry whale
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Colress trainer move give accell and other timings give just enough time. I even use Bianca trainer move here

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I did run out just as I was putting the second Nate circle, had to wait just a little bit

I'm going to do some testing, gonna remove head start from colress and add speedy entry 2

tulip egret
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Whose better for this, 3/5 lucas or 3/5 nate

pallid girder
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Currently Lucas has the highest score.

tulip egret
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Even at 3/5? Whose his best partners

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The one I saw online was 4/5

civic island
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3/5 is fine

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Check skippingmud clear in the doc

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You can run good aswell

pallid girder
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His 5/5 is just for saving soul with Soften up tile, but not really needed for just 1M clear.

copper otter
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Waitinf for someone to get a non-lucas/nate run that ISN'T 5/5

warped gulch
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@vernal condor ay

vernal condor
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Yoo

west creek
vernal condor