Damage Challenge

[latent plover]

Lyra boosts his stats, and Melony spams sing

[glossy umbra]

What move level they need

[latent plover]

You need to burn one of the sides

[latent plover]

Probably 3/5 for Lyra, it doesn't matter for Melony

She's just there for sleep cancel

[glossy umbra]

ok

[normal parcel]

Really I don't know why I can't land 5 leers

[lusty galleon]

pykuo, your run of 3.1M is the same strat but with the other gear, right?

[normal parcel]

I tried everything and is impossible for me to land 5 leers

[warped gulch]

@latent plover can you see this, bc idk what you gain more from me tho. I still got to -4 Def while Syncing with Leaf 1st and using B Move

My rotation made Hop couldn’t use his last move

[glossy umbra]

What grids do I need for em, also can you tell me the strat for the full battle

[latent plover]

I didn't do the clear but there's a video of it

[warped gulch]

Yeah, i just knew my Pin didn’t give Hilda anything so i changed it to give 15 Atk

You can see my

Bc i just don’t what you gain more tbh

Still -4 Def, still 5 Syncs

[glossy umbra]

Where can I find it

[warped gulch]

But My Hilda 1st Sync got Sun, Def debuff and Rebuff

And ofc 2nd Sync is the same

[latent plover]

In terms of score? Probably because I synced with Hilda first so she could benefit from super effective up next when you get to third sync with her

[warped gulch]

NC Leaf -> Hilda -> Hilda

My 3rd Sync still benefit SEUN

[latent plover]

https://youtu.be/tqCWqKl4zR0?si=wVlBYP37WlITrc0Q

[warped gulch]

Your is Hilda -> Leaf -> Hilda

Not different that much

[latent plover]

Then idk, might be either damage ranges or missed crits

[normal parcel]

Maybe if I roll Hs1 on leaf I should land 5 leers, with with just Hs1 Rosa I just can't

[latent plover]

I have the +10 energy helping

[latent plover]

Yeah she needs it

[warped gulch]

I know my Hilda’ll get lower score bc no caked

But i just want to know why you think that rotation is good tho

[latent plover]

Mine is caked, so maybe this is why

[normal parcel]

Pykuo said that he could do it without double hs1

[glossy umbra]

Thank you

[latent plover]

Idk it worked for me

That was my optimal path

[warped gulch]

Like you just need to see my video

[normal parcel]

And that it needs double Hs1 for 6 leer

[latent plover]

Like I don't really know why but it just worked better

[normal parcel]

I know I can land 5 leers with double hs1

[glossy umbra]

Should I ex melony and lyra?

[normal parcel]

Maybe I should give up and try to do a better run with 4 leers

[latent plover]

Idk maybe? Melony is better for general dc events

Lyra is situational

[normal parcel]

Because without double hs1 for me is impossible, unless maybe I need to do a very specific queue that I'm messing up

[warped gulch]

My Hilda’s 1st Sync was benefit from both Sun, Rebuff and -4Def, so i think my rotation is very good tho

If only i can get cake somewhere

[lusty galleon]

you can

just roll Marnie/Hop with paid gems

[warped gulch]

Actually that maybe the move

Nah Anni is coming

[hidden junco]

And they might even gift cake stuff on the anni reset

[latent plover]

SS Hilda is always worth caking

I'll die on that hill

[unborn otter]

What can i get with 3/5 exr ss hilda, 4/5 exr nc leaf 3/5 exr nc rosa

[warped gulch]

Congratulations, that is 3m team

[unborn otter]

3/5 though

[warped gulch]

[unborn otter]

Ss hilda

[lusty galleon]

that's enough lol

[unborn otter]

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/RsDnEDZGdt8?si=FxkUSk1OY_KGMCyl

[unborn otter]

If I don’t get burn on first attack then reset?

[warped gulch]

My Hilda isn’t caked and still reach 3m tho

Ok i missed 1 crit

Wish it wasn’t at last Sync tho

[true locust]

You roll -4 def?

[warped gulch]

Yeah, i could do that bc i stall early so Hop couldn’t use his last move

[true locust]

Use like hyper tell first hilda then leaf have time for -6 def on all

I try it

[warped gulch]

Hyper told that he couldn’t debuff to -6

[unborn otter]

Had burn on left at like 3rd searing shot

[true locust]

Skill issue

I got 8 second left when sync

Soo alot time left

And use rosa 2 tm

[glossy umbra]

I did more damage with ss red

[glossy umbra]

Not 1.6m

But more than silver when lyra and melony weren’t exed

[true locust]

And my leaf dont have he1

So easy -6 def can be if have he1

Just im not sure if he1 is good on leaf or better adrenaline

[queen moth]

I'm Hilda-less so I'll take it

[warped gulch]

Yeah, i just tried it and indeed she can debuff to -6 Def

[true locust]

I now lol did it

[warped gulch]

That why i confused about why he said he couldn’t debuff to -6

[true locust]

And number 1 did it too debuff -6

[glossy umbra]

@warped gulch who should I use for dc 2/5 exed exrd ss red or 1/5 ss hilda ex

[true locust]

Since need get more damage

[warped gulch]

Silver EX is better than both

[glossy umbra]

Ah ok

Should I ex lyra?

[warped gulch]

Yes, bc you’ll Sync with her

[glossy umbra]

Ok

[warped gulch]

@true locust ok that rotation bad for me

Mostly bc Hilda isn’t caked

[true locust]

My miss all crits😂

I got 1 crit and 2,88m haha

[warped gulch]

Mine only missed 2 btw

[true locust]

Poor girl

[warped gulch]

[glossy umbra]

I got 236k, How can I improve to 1.6m?

[true locust]

My is caked its why

[warped gulch]

Hilda without caked really need dmg on 1st Sync

[warped gulch]

You used Silver/Lyra/Melony right ?

[glossy umbra]

Yes

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/tqCWqKl4zR0?si=JBCsKRFVEf8abSRo

You can check grid in video description

[latent plover]

You should follow the video

[glossy umbra]

I copied the grids already

My silver nuke doesn’t do as much damage idk why

[latent plover]

Do you have him power boosted?

[glossy umbra]

Not sure

[warped gulch]

Can you capture your silver ?

[warped gulch]

Hmmmm

Can you try again and record your gameplay ?

[glossy umbra]

Ok

[latent plover]

You need to spam sleep against a burned opponent to reach syncs quickly

Don't DPS

[glossy umbra]

I did it again and got 450k

[warped gulch]

Did you record it ?

[glossy umbra]

Yes, but I can’t upload it on discord

Ill just post it on yt and give link

[glossy umbra]

Ok here

https://youtu.be/VHVBOf6EnDg?si=daJI0yJoBC8CEuK2

[warped gulch]

I saw the problem now

[latent plover]

You didn't fully buff your crit

[warped gulch]

You didn’t grid Melony Team Sharp Entry

[glossy umbra]

My melony is 2/5, I think thats the problem

[warped gulch]

Then use Lyra Dire Hit instead

[latent plover]

You can click on dire hit twice

[glossy umbra]

Ok

[glossy umbra]

At the beginning?

[warped gulch]

Dropping Team Brain Gain 9 from Lyra

[latent plover]

At some point before Silver syncs

[warped gulch]

It’ll make your run way more comfortable

[frail owl]

also you need to use silver's tm before sync

[glossy umbra]

Ok

[glossy umbra]

Before he syncs?

[frail owl]

and tank with silver

[glossy umbra]

I used his tm once at the beginning

[glossy umbra]

Alr

[warped gulch]

Yup

His Tm gives SEUN

[frail owl]

his tm gives SEUN

[glossy umbra]

Ok ill try the run now

[frail owl]

yeah

[warped gulch]

So you want to it to boost Silver’s Sync dmg

[latent plover]

Yeah. Lyra buffs him just fine

[glossy umbra]

Im still not hitting crits on silvers sync

Should I give melony a different lucky skill?

[warped gulch]

Nah

It is fine

[glossy umbra]

Am I just getting unlucky?

[warped gulch]

Sync crit is the most bs thing tho

Bc it is random

With +3 crit you have 80% to crit with Sync

So with 3 targets change to miss crit is very high

[glossy umbra]

Alr ill keep trying until his sync gets some crits

[warped gulch]

But missing 1-2 crit Syncs should be fine

[glossy umbra]

Ok

[glossy umbra]

I missed all 3 crits on sync and they managed to kill silver somehow

[warped gulch]

That was ….. very unlucky ngl

Did you give Silver gears ?

[glossy umbra]

Yes

But they are very low levelled ones

[warped gulch]

Bc in that run, Silver can dodge some atk

But hearing Silver died

Yikes very unlucky

[glossy umbra]

Can you show me what gear you used?

[warped gulch]

I used very strong gears for that 1.6m

But in 1.2m i used Fire Gears and he was fine

[glossy umbra]

Lvl 3 fire gear?

[warped gulch]

Yeah

[glossy umbra]

Ok ill use those

[fallen trail]

how much buffs does rising tide need for max power?

[true locust]

18

Sts up

[fallen trail]

after 1 tm hilda is at +16

so really doesnt need much more

?

[true locust]

Plus 13

[fallen trail]

oh does crit not count

[true locust]

Attack special and accu

Crit is crit not sts

[fallen trail]

i see

[glossy umbra]

In 5 runs I haven’t gotten a crit on a single sync yet

[warped gulch]

Did Silver have +3 crit ?

[glossy umbra]

Yes

[unborn otter]

Fire gear

Searing shot end with no sun and only 1 rosa tm

[queen moth]

Every day I'm punished for missing Chase.

[rose basalt]

not like it really matters since you already got 1 mil

water triple and dark single

unless ss lysandre and masked royal can do it

[vernal condor]

society if pykuo had r hilda

[cloud timber]

ss lysandre is top 2 water dmg dealer…

[latent plover]

Dahlia probably gonna be #1 for water 3v3

[rose basalt]

i wonder if the seconds from the burn animation is gonna slow it down

and reduce the amount of sync

💀

[cloud timber]

it enables melony without needing to run nc blue and i'm fairly sure burn + sing is still faster than bp barry/colress

though i have tested him and he still does get one to two less syncs than most melony comps

[vernal condor]

its definitely faster

[fluid anvil]

Melony will never have enough gauge without NC blue

[cloud timber]

ss kris racing rain plus melony racing rain

it's fine

[vernal condor]

melony had enough gauge with ss nemona and glorialt

[rose basalt]

but you can just swap out melony for elio then i guess

[cloud timber]

i think i even threw in lockstep on there

[vernal condor]

5/5 +6e

[fluid anvil]

wow he even has super sync 9 at 5/5
still dont think he can beat Dahlia though

[copper otter]

Dahlia is going to destroy water aoe. The better question i have is: would NC Serena be a partner for her?

Max rebuff on mid

[teal harness]

dojo gloria is gonna be the water single queen

[copper otter]

Why dojo gloria and not Serena?

[teal harness]

cuz I dont have her

[copper otter]

Oof fair enough lmao

[fluid anvil]

wait a second - ALL of Lysandres sync multipliers require enemies to be burned ? so you have to burn all 3 of them.. ?
isnt that real slow in DC? If you are using burn in 3v3 - optimal is to burn only 1, right ?

[copper otter]

Yes. Suffer.

[teal harness]

kiawe arcanine's will o wisp can burn all 3 targets at once iirc

[copper otter]

You can literally just heat wave them

He should have hostile enviornment

[safe prawn]

For me it’s dahlia Melony NcBlue

[copper otter]

Hmm

[safe prawn]

Max move + flood alert 5 will make rain last long enough

You are gonna muddy water 2 not 3 times thanks to blue

[copper otter]

I'm just more worried about confusion wasting time

[safe prawn]

Another alternative could be redlax instead of blue but gotta use those Melony tm

[fluid anvil]

Dahlia Melony Chase as usual

NC blue value is even less than Chases here than usual, since Dahlia already debuffs spdef easily

[copper otter]

Wasting time on muddy water tho

[fluid anvil]

its worth it and you get Chases circle in return
also you dont have to do -6 spdef .. -2 or -4 is fine

[cursive linden]

I used almost all of my Deluxe Cookies and i got Adrenaline on NC Leaf and HS1 on NC Rosa and this is my point now

[safe prawn]

I was very polite in not grabbing any 5/5 node

[copper otter]

Wait.... interference.....

Confusion bad, trapped bad

[safe prawn]

….can be any interference….

[copper otter]

Restrained tho....

[safe prawn]

Flinch

[cursive linden]

SS Serena

[copper otter]

No no, let me cook.... restrained....

[cursive linden]

Does re🅱️uff count?

[vernal condor]

Restrain isnt an interference

[fluid anvil]

restrained doesnt activaet Interference sync

[copper otter]

SC STEVEN

[vernal condor]

It's a status change

[copper otter]

Oh....

[vernal condor]

Only confusion flinch and trap work

[copper otter]

Rip

[vernal condor]

YOU'RE A HELPER AND YOU DONT KNOW THAT

Mods, remove his role!!

[safe prawn]

Confusion is the best one

[copper otter]

You act like i should know over 1000 passives and abilities in a funni mobile game out to steal your money.

[cursive linden]

Conf RNG????

[safe prawn]

Mael starting a riot in the dc squad

[fluid anvil]

its not good, but you just have to use teeter dance

[vernal condor]

Yes you should also interference is like a day 1 thing

[safe prawn]

Did somebody say RNG??

[cursive linden]

Oh no

[copper otter]

Technically restrained does interfere with the opponent.

[vernal condor]

All interferences are a status changes, but not all status changes are interferences

[copper otter]

i felt like i was trying to understand KH from that sentence.

But in all seriousness. I'm debating if teeter dance is worth using considering how much time it wastes

Like trapped might be better but i'm not sure

[fluid anvil]

what alternative is there to teeter dance ..?

[copper otter]

That's what i'm trying to think on

[vernal condor]

Elaine leaving all opponents trapped

Or Kabu

[copper otter]

Real talk... elaine could work but her passive is completely random

[brisk shale]

F.roxanne has aoe trap too

[vernal condor]

O ye roxanne

But no Dahlia wont be the best just because of interf sync being ass in DC

[copper otter]

Yea...

Although she will be unga bunga for sure

[vernal condor]

...unless you wanna fish for NC Serena staggering on all opponents right before EACH sync

[fluid anvil]

she will probably be the best for Water 3v3, but she wont reach Gladion level

[copper otter]

She will definitely hit 1 mil

Like without a doubt

[vernal condor]

That's a given

[fluid anvil]

4 Mil*

[copper otter]

Would she have enough time for 4 mil?

Remember, working with confusion time here too

[latent plover]

3.7 million

[fluid anvil]

I think so, the compression she has on a Tech+strike is insane
its basically NC leaf level, except AoE

[cursive linden]

What the fuck

[latent plover]

I had to change the strategy to reach this score

[latent plover]

Max Invesment SS Hilda stonks 📈

[cursive linden]

I have her 5/5 EXR 10e

And i only got 2.35M

Do i need SP3?

[latent plover]

What's your rotation?

[latent plover]

Yes

And double HS1 on Rosa and Leaf

[cursive linden]

I followed Pyuko's video

HS1 on Rosa
Adrenaline on NC Leaf

[latent plover]

Do you set sun with Leaf?

[cursive linden]

Yeah

[cloud timber]

wanted to do my take on it, 1m is actually possible with cs2

[latent plover]

Striker Kabu???

[cloud timber]

missed doing the last sync under sun by a small amount and missed a bunch of crits

[latent plover]

This is based af

1 million with a support

[cursive linden]

That's an anti-meta strat

I am not joking

[cloud timber]

have recording if anyone wants an upload

[copper otter]

I need to see kabu in action

Also wtf did you spam for sync rushing?

[cloud timber]

defend order

kabu's tm is helpful

[copper otter]

I need to see this ngl

[cloud timber]

0 defend order animations

just need one morty tm to sustain gauge

[latent plover]

Do it

Please upload. Or even better, get 1 million with Kabu then do it

[cloud timber]

https://youtu.be/prXY7WsWod4?si=C13gPDB-sWZohsLx

grids/gear at the end

@nova remnant inspired me

[acoustic heath]

I have no fire power, I should give up on this one

[latent plover]

Is Silver power boosted?

With expanded grid? If he is, you can probably reach it with him

[acoustic heath]

Silver got a new boost?

[latent plover]

The expanded grid is the boost

[acoustic heath]

Even then, not sure it’s enough

[latent plover]

What supports you have?

[acoustic heath]

Let’s see

[latent plover]

Just screenshot them

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yor-Oyn0E

[latent plover]

@acoustic heath Try to follow this video. You have NC Rosa too so she can spam sing as well

[acoustic heath]

I was thinking Acerola for sunny day

What’s a good NC Rosa build for this

[latent plover]

SS Acerola and NC Rosa with Silver can work tbh

[latent plover]

She can go gridless as long as you have enough speed to spam sing

[acoustic heath]

Does double support sync stack?

[latent plover]

Yes

So if you sync twice with two different supports, you'd be at +4

[acoustic heath]

Mmmm I’m gonna cook something up

[latent plover]

Good luck. But watch the video for a reference

[copper otter]

Keep in mind, you are timed so you have to decide wheter two support syncs are worth if it's not on the nuker

[acoustic heath]

Fair

[acoustic heath]

Best I can do, the other team attack animation goes on for so long

[latent plover]

Wdym attack animation. You spam thunder wave

And rush to syncs. You never DPS

[modern willow]

They mean the attacks of the other enemies

[latent plover]

Even then, they should be doing way more

[eternal pecan]

Why so low?

[echo axle]

Is there any way to get decent points?

[pallid girder]

Watch some video about Silver 1M clear in the pin.
Also don't use SS Acerola bc Silver doesn't really need her sun and she doesn't buff +6 speed for Silver.

[eternal pecan]

Is your silver powerboost?

[latent plover]

Silver, but given he's low level I doubt he has a power boost

If Hilda was 3/5 EX she'd be alright here too

[eternal pecan]

Ethan is probably his best bet

[latent plover]

Ethan's sync is garbage and his isn't EX

Shouldn't both clears be F2P friendly?

Besides the 1.7 million clear was done by Trope rather than Pyuko

[pallid girder]

Just invest in Silver, copy the Silver 1M clear strategy but accept you won't get the same score bc no powerboost and no ex.
You're going to use him a lot in the near future anyway considering you roster is like that.

[normal parcel]

I Just accepted that I can't get 5 leers without double HS so I tried to at least to land the Crits on the burnt opponent with 4 leers

Don't know if is worth to grid precision on Rosa tm, the speed buffs are enough to max rising tide bit I think the extra accuracy makes sing miss less and should save a bit of time, but enough to counter the buff animation (or is negligible?)

Currently i'm not using precision wondering if who got 5 leers without double HS got it

[scenic crow]

u need cake

3.1m is limit

[echo axle]

Nope

[echo axle]

Nope

[echo axle]

Where can I find the strat?

[eternal pecan]

In pins

[latent plover]

https://youtu.be/usqn7AAibLk

[feral hamlet]

Is Silver good for this?

[latent plover]

If EX and with power boost, yeah

[tired narwhal]

I’ve seen 1.7 mil with silver

But it also included 5/5 EX Lyra, and colress

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yor-Oyn0E

[feral hamlet]

Colress better than NC Leaf here?

[latent plover]

Colress is the thunder wave spammer

[cloud timber]

maybe bp barry nc leaf could peak higher but that's unproven i think

if you had 3/5 nc leaf you could run her as damage dealer and get 2m

[devout pelican]

Colress spam allows Silver to sync with sun up since it saves a lot of time

[pallid girder]

No speed buff for Silver is a big kill tho.
NC Leaf doesn't compresses either speed buff or spam is the biggest issue for Silver.

[feral hamlet]

Just like the last one, I spend the entire battle setting up and my main attacker doesn't sync until the last minute begins

I'm not sure how I'm doing literally less than half the damage the video is doing

[pallid girder]

Yeah you really should learn when to stop.
-6 def/spef is not game breaking compare to max the multiplier and one extra sync.

[feral hamlet]

It takes two of my syncs to do what they did in 1. How does that make sense?

[warped gulch]

Not really, bc in that run I missed 1 crit

[lethal siren]

I atleast try 1m in every dc
Once I complete that , I don't feel like doing much into it coz you get ticket every 50k

[cloud timber]

there are definitely times where you get more tickets pushing 1m+ runs further than grinding weaker teams that are below 1m

[thin wren]

your silver has no speed buffs for inertia.

[craggy blade]

Try to follow this video but the air cutter hinders me from the last sync

[feral hamlet]

Basically the same play. I might be okay with this

[glossy umbra]

Critical hits on silver sync is non existent for me

Ive done over 6 runs and im yet to see his sync crit

[edgy hemlock]

Is 1/5 Chase good for this? I wanna use Mix Blue

[stoic crest]

What is the best option for this? I have other pairs like red lax. Please ping me

[turbid vault]

@stoic crest with those move levels I'd think silver ho-oh is easiest. Use colress and meganium or sub out meganium for something else

[hollow whale]

Sweet, means ST fire is also secured for me

[stoic crest]

What about nc leaf instead of meganium?

[turbid vault]

Does NC leaf provide team crit? You need to only use 1 TM on silver ho-oh per ho-oh sync with the node for SEUN

[pallid girder]

Most importantly NC leaf doesn't have team speed buff.
Silver needs +6 speed bc he doesn't buff any by himself.

[stoic crest]

Oh so meganium is crucial

[lethal siren]

Leon?
Or maybe nc leaf and ss Hilda , ik they are 1/5 but maybe

If u r aiming for high score

Then idk

[stoic crest]

I just want the bare minimum

Heck I'm happy with anything

Could ss Hilda and NC leaf work with red lax?

Or would leaf with colress and rer lax better?

[lethal siren]

1/5 I can't say much but u can try

[pallid girder]

No. Just stick to 5/5 EX + powerboost Silver...

[scenic crow]

maybe 3.6m？

[crude sandal]

Oh, you're actually here now?

[feral hamlet]

Wait, wrong pic. I got like 700k. I was totally okay with that for this team

[visual mantle]

How much can 5/5 SS Hilda get with C Rosa but no C Leaf?

[pallid girder]

Ppl tried Leon and he's pretty bad bc he only has 1 sync multiplier and the number is low + about burn.
1/5 SS Hilda & 1/5 NC Leaf are like most 1/5 dmg dealers in DC. They'll be doodoo and score at most 500k for you.

[cloud timber]

meanwhile kabu gets 900k

[feral hamlet]

Wait is 1/5 Kabu viable? Lodge Kabu?

[rain copper]

Not at all

[cloud timber]

3/5

base kabu

[warped gulch]

Kabu has Striker cake, Haymaker so he can work as a funny nuke

[stoic crest]

Somehow that did worse than Leon, NC leaf, and red lax.

I only got 300k....

This mode needs people to whale....or spend all day resetting.

[warped gulch]

F2p literally get 1.7m

[cloud timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yor-Oyn0E

[warped gulch]

[cloud timber]

would fall under the latter category yes

but you can get 1.2m without tons of resets

[stoic crest]

That team only got me 300k

What skill?

[pallid girder]

Did you follow their buffing sequence and only spam twave after buffing is done?

[stoic crest]

Because I did literally what that video showed....

[pallid girder]

Also same grid?

[stoic crest]

What grid?

I just used whatever I found in a random document which I just assumed was right.

Because I can't get anything from the purple cookies I have none and no time for the gauntlet....I have never touched the mode.

[pallid girder]

I mean sometimes I forget to change grid/lucky skill before entering the battle and the result indeed hurt.

[left vine]

Define random document

DC grids are specialized

[stoic crest]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1s-FZwwgLaWbMR7K-zKKabjiIE56y1BafQ7zWRC49QVk/htmlview#

[left vine]

If you're using the regular recommended grids it won't be the same

[stoic crest]

This random thing I have on my phone

[left vine]

Ok that's the one

[stoic crest]

And it wants the purple skill

So....

Is it even possible without that?

[civic island]

300k is totally out of scale
It's easier if you show us the grid you're using maybe you picked something else

[cloud timber]

deluxe skills aren't a massive boost, they're fairly marginal really

[stoic crest]

I used this grid

[civic island]

Looks fine, are you spamming correctly and using Lyra TMs after her first sync?

[pallid girder]

Is your Lyra 3/5 and did you pick sun after sync in her grid?

[stoic crest]

Yeah I used her TM after sync, I only used dire hit before sync.

[visual mantle]

Can I do better with this team?

[warped gulch]

Any sun setter is better than Barry here

[visual mantle]

So spam sleep with Rosa instead?

Should I give her go viral?

[warped gulch]

You can reset for Hilda burn

[stoic crest]

I tried again and got 812k

Which is much better

[pallid girder]

That's a huge improvement

[stoic crest]

I wish it was higher but I'm not sure how much higher I can get it without the purple cookie

[crude sandal]

What's the top score now?

I might just complete this with 0 points for now to see

[stoic crest]

Is it possible without purple cookie?

[civic island]

That's a bit different than intended
You need +6 speed to max inertia

If you don't want to fish for her TM you can run team swift reaction but need Berserker on Silver
Try this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=000200015400&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=0&t1=11111&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDRAaNA&v2=013301025000&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgkeHyIjJC4vMDEyMzU

Silver as first target ofc

[brisk shale]

#1255888121648644197 message

[crude sandal]

I wonder what's their sync cycle

[stoic crest]

Thank you!

It seems to be a bit better

I got almost 900k now.

I wonder if cs2 will be enough?

[cloud timber]

i farm cookies and i still barely roll for sp3

you don't have to feel pressured to do that

[pallid girder]

It's easier to roll a better skill gear in this case.

[devout pelican]

Got 1.2m with f2p team. Happy with it

[stoic crest]

I just used my maxed 3* fire gear

No clue how to use these fancy gears ...

[feral hamlet]

Guess I should try for 800k with Silver then...

[stoic crest]

Because I can never figure out what I'm looking for

[cloud timber]

you start off by ignoring all the passives and just aim for stats

if you're rolling exclusively for dc you only need to look for attack/spa

anything better than your current gear is good to keep

[devout pelican]

Silver can provide SEUN with his TM, so you need to reset for it, then get 1 MPR off Lyra's TM so he can have +6 Speed

Honestly it's as easy as it gets unless you don't have his PB. Then tough luck. Maybe you can try OG Hilda or something

[stoic crest]

On separate gears?

[cloud timber]

on each gear

for dc you don't need to be concerned about hp, defense, or spdef

[stoic crest]

Ah so I want a pin with both then a good bracelet and bandana that's as high as possible?

[cloud timber]

you don't need both on a pin, just one or the other is good

and yeah but keep anything that's better than your current best

[pallid girder]

You can't pin the stat.

[cloud timber]

you can't ever pin it no

[stoic crest]

My best is level 3* gear that's maxed. I assume that's a low bar to beat?

Not even sure how much it raises anything

[cloud timber]

yeah it's not very difficult to beat

[golden tiger]

aaaAAAAA idk

[pallid girder]

Sometimes I just roll without pins and when I see +80 atk/spatk I stop.

[golden tiger]

i have no idea what's ideal and i got this in about 30 mins

[cloud timber]

by pin they mean the hp gear

[pallid girder]

Aww I'm stupid. Don't mind me.

[cloud timber]

3* gear won't have any atk or spa on it but you can get up to 20 with skill gear

[stoic crest]

Skill gear is the 3 white pieces right?

[cursive linden]

Yes

[golden tiger]

is scoring sync worth on hilda sync grind for this

scorxogm

sch

scornging*

scorching*

[cursive linden]

Scorching Sync 5

[golden tiger]

yes

[cursive linden]

NO

[golden tiger]

is worth?

[cursive linden]

DON'T USE IT

[golden tiger]

ok i didn't use that i figured

[stoic crest]

Seems easy enough just replace my type gears with those

[cursive linden]

B U R N A N I M A T I O N

[cloud timber]

yep

[golden tiger]

i thought paralysis spam was more important yes

with colress

[stoic crest]

Thanks I'll do that!

Maybe that will get me my 1 million

I'm like 100k short.

Thank you very much

And the patience is much appreciated

[sweet grail]

best team this time?

[cloud timber]

#1255888121648644197 message

[sweet grail]

wow

[thin wren]

nc rosa is best outside psychic or fighting dc huh

[thin wren]

you must be happy

[sweet grail]

yes

[long silo]

Missing that last sync

Wow this is wild

[mossy adder]

I saw people using Red and SS Hilda; I do have 4/5 Red but I also have a 2/5 SSMay so should I use her instead?

I also have 2/5 SS Nemona, should I try her?

[cursive linden]

SS Nemona is a fairy type

[mossy adder]

I mean as support

[cursive linden]

[pallid girder]

Do you have 5/5 EX powerboost Silver?

[mossy adder]

on the google sheets

[mossy adder]

The one with Ho-Oh?

[cursive linden]

Do you have Gloria (Alt.2)?

[mossy adder]

no

[pallid girder]

Yes. He hit 1.7M with pure f2p/genpool lineup.

[lethal siren]

Which damage dealer striker will work with NC blue and melony

I don't have mix blue

[pallid girder]

SS Red needs SS Morty, Mix Blue or NC leaf to hit a similar number.
2/5 SS May is just not gonna work.

[mossy adder]

I have the stuff for this though, but ty

[mossy adder]

I have morty and NC leaf

[pallid girder]

Well if you have them you should just try that.

[glossy token]

note to self check inhere for red comps tomorrow

[devout pelican]

Mix Blue ought to do good damage but no cake

[analog barn]

That's enough for me, thanks Blue

[feral hamlet]

I wish I got more than 1/5 Mix Blue before reaching pity...

[icy bramble]

is there a way to improve this score

[pallid girder]

Yes use EX powerboost Silver or 5/5 og Hilda if your Silver has no EX instead.
2/5 SS Hilda doesn't have her sync multiplier available.

[young tartan]

At least I have this to cheer me up

Thanks guys for how to clear fire stage

[tacit ridge]

my rng was horrendous but at least i got to 1m...

[scenic grotto]

I don’t have NC Rosa, ending up with just 1m when I could have gotten over 2m with NC Rosa

[vagrant ivy]

I feel like that can get way more somehow

[scenic grotto]

I know but I don’t know how
I could only get in a total of 3 syncs, 1 with NC Leaf and 2 with SS Hilda

[pallid girder]

Ig you can try Melony or Elio instead of BP Barry.
Just burn 1 opponent not all 3.

[tacit ridge]

I really wish I had candy for NC Leaf or SS Hilda but alas

maybe next time

[scenic grotto]

It’s weird how it looks like this is the situation
SS Hilda + NC Rosa: 1m
SS Hilda + NC Leaf: 1m
SS Hilda + NC Rosa + NC Leaf: 3m+

[warped gulch]

SS Hilda + Nc Leaf + Colress can give you 2m

[scenic grotto]

I tried Melony but I run out of gauge at the end, leaving me with only 900k
And I do try burning only one opponent

[scenic grotto]

Thanks

[warped gulch]

Debuff to -4 Def if you dont want to need para proc for last Sync

[sullen zephyr]

what will happen when all 34 stages have run?

[pallid girder]

Most likely rerun the whole set again, but we don't know if they'd change the order or not.

[cloud timber]

that's exactly when you try using elio if you can't find any easy way to fix the gauge issues

as long as you can apply another status first he's an upgrade to bp barry

[scenic crow]

fuck

i think 4.2m is max

[scenic grotto]

Can’t seem to be able to get more than 1.1m
Is my grid even correct?

[scenic grotto]

Thanks

I assume rising tides > 2 sync move power +25 right?

[crude sandal]

Scorching Sync is bad huh?

[scenic crow]

not bad def down is the point

[pallid girder]

Why on earth you didn't pick Rising Tide? It's literally her best sync multiplier.

[cursive linden]

Wait huh?

So do you use Scorching Sync 5 or not?

[crude sandal]

Defense drop is better?

[scenic grotto]

My mistake

[true locust]

02:10? Lol do you sleep?🤣 your from us or canada?

[cursive linden]

Burn Synergy is trash

[scenic grotto]

Well that’s a noticeable improvement

[scenic crow]

yes

[crude sandal]

I see

[scenic crow]

HongKong

[cursive linden]

Great work!

3/5 Vilda is probably not enough for 2M but that seems fine

[scenic grotto]

Thanks for letting me know

[hidden junco]

I think you can if you have NC Rosa to use over Colress

Not sure if that's the case

[lethal siren]

Yes you can with NC rosa over colress

[scenic grotto]

Yeah, it is weird how you can’t get more than 2m with only 2 of the 3 units that can get up to 4m damage

[thin wren]

who do ya all think will be best for dark st?

wait dragon st is next?

[safe prawn]

Dragon is def gonna be Lucas

[crude sandal]

Nate B Move carry

[pallid girder]

Hear me out. Vlance + lucas.
Vlance has para and rebuff.

Don't know whose sync is higher tho.

[lethal siren]

Wht abt leon

[lofty stirrup]

I'm using 3/5 victini and I got 1.6M without even trying so 2M should be easy

[thick holly]

iirc Lucas is barely worse than Iris but easier to setup so that's funny

[lethal siren]

Powerplay is really good

[thick holly]

Hard to setups

[lofty stirrup]

Nate's bmove spam time

[thick holly]

Debuffing every stats takes a while

Even with c elesa

[lethal siren]

Rip

[thick holly]

You need to use a move with animation where the best you want is none

[lethal siren]

Nc leaf is special

[thick holly]

because hers is fast

And she does it herself

[lethal siren]

Ye

[thick holly]

She just has to land like 3 leers with little to no animation

Then b move

and bam

-6

[lethal siren]

[thick holly]

For the rest you just use emolga with 6 moves

[thick holly]

Altho ig you could use c leaf for debuffing but you want someone to para so you can sing spam

[scenic crow]

4m

[thin wren]

Lucas probably

[lethal siren]

C leaf?

[thick holly]

champion leaf

Moltres

[lethal siren]

Oh

[thin wren]

with v lance?(since lucas already has seun and zone) and elio

[lethal siren]

Nc leaf could spam leer but I don't think she can

[thick holly]

She only needs like 3

Cuz her b move lowers the stats droppped by the same amount

[teal harness]

I wonder how far zerena can go on dragon challenge? Im thinking on using ss brendan and melony with her

[thick holly]

iirc

not much ?

[dense citrus]

Almossst...

[lethal siren]

Ig hydreigon can go good

Pecking order and devastation

Also sprint ex role

[pallid girder]

Dragon 3v3? It's already over.
Iirc Zerena capped at 1.8m at most. Only half of NC Nate's score.

[teal harness]

Im talking about the upcoming single dragon challenge

[thin wren]

I will try to see how high iris Nate and colress can go

lucas will definitely have the most tho

[lethal siren]

Next triple is water?

[thin wren]

Yes

[true locust]

Nice:) im Adam from Poland City Gdansk nice too meet you:) Hongkong is one off the city i plan visit on asia:) hear is realy interesting

[thin wren]

then st dark

[lethal siren]

Water , electric and grass
Powerful pair typings are coming

[teal harness]

maybe kris can do good in triple water

[thin wren]

the bad types are finally gone

[pallid girder]

In 3v1 she'll have harder time to hit 1M considering this score
But I don't rmb did we started to use sing spam when dragon 3v3 is alive?

[thin wren]

we are getting good types like water, fairy and fire now

[lethal siren]

Electric will be much easier with Ash bmove but don't have him

[thin wren]

near the end

[teal harness]

sidney can do good here I guess

[thin wren]

ehhh

confusion......

is cringe

[crude sandal]

3v3 fighting weak will go hard with SSA Cynthia and NC Rosa

[lethal siren]

Yes
Ig his sync always crits?

[scenic crow]

shit city HongKong

[crude sandal]

Numbling Blow + Sing spam FTW

[thin wren]

Rei is the strongest aoe fighting nuke right?

[crude sandal]

Yes

[thin wren]

rebuff and zone compression and double sprint exr support

[lethal siren]

Bea will be useful

[crude sandal]

Especially because he's base sprint so he has a tech-like innate

[lethal siren]

Ig

[pallid girder]

We have tech striker SSHau now, which ppl are speculating might be better than Ash.

[lethal siren]

Oh mine is 1/5

[teal harness]

triple electric I hope elesa can do good, my N is only 1/5 and sst red and nemona both prefer single

[thin wren]

only 50% on grid iirc but I think he has refreshable seun

[crude sandal]

He nukes harder, but he takes yoo damn long to set up

[lethal siren]

Riley?

[thin wren]

it will be a battle between ss hau and Ash

[lethal siren]

True

[crude sandal]

He does

[teal harness]

one of hau's tiles that buffs sync move requires fairy zone

[thin wren]

the setup isn't that long tbh considering you still get in 6 syncs and he compresses et and a strong nuke

[teal harness]

whimsical sync 5

[thin wren]

you don't take it

it's garbage

[pallid girder]

Exr Riley prob could do 1M in 3v3.

[thin wren]

He got 500k in 1v3

[lethal siren]

Piers in electric?

[thin wren]

*500k

[lethal siren]

St

[thin wren]

I suck at typing.

[lethal siren]

Piers has strike ex role?

[pallid girder]

Piers IS striker.

[lethal siren]

Oh with support iirc

[thin wren]

sstr gonna be the best for st elec

[craggy blade]

Always run out of time for the last sync. The air cutter animation is too long

[pallid girder]

SSPiers would do good in 3v3, but prob not SSHau level good.

[thin wren]

Can air cutter miss.

[teal harness]

single electric is only in october

[lethal siren]

Sstr has infinite electric terrain

[thin wren]

ss hau does require a lot more rng than Ash

[teal harness]

mix red will do good in triple grass

[thin wren]

field exr means no animation for terrain as well

[lethal siren]

True

[thin wren]

Yes but idk if he breaks 3 mil

[true locust]

Haha if you live maybe but im look from tourist point off view . Its realy big and lot ports:) im live in smaler one 🙂

[lethal siren]

Lodge Gloria can be good

For triple grass

[pallid girder]

The current issue of sstr is kekwalk. He needs someone else to setup for him so he can't abuse the godly NC Blue + Melony comp.

[thin wren]

sc Steven

he can afford melony btw

et sing spam is THE fastest sing spam

[crude sandal]

@scenic crow What's your sync cycle? Like who do you sync with first then who's next?

[true locust]

Watch vid

[thin wren]

in st sc Steven buff is a lot already tbh

[lethal siren]

Single water will be nc Serena but I have 1/5

[true locust]

Sync is like me leaf and hilda

[teal harness]

I'll go with dojo gloria for single water

[thin wren]

The hilda, nc leaf and cycle were predicted before but didn't think nc rosa would be optimal

[scenic crow]

@crude sandal

[thin wren]

ig double support on the other two means rosa being unable to sync isn't taxing

[true locust]

I now a guy who score 3,9 m no rosa:)

[pallid girder]

Use a support sprint but didnt sync with it is kinda a funny idea lol.

[teal harness]

who's good for single steel?

[true locust]

So its not need

[scenic crow]

maybe

[thin wren]

yes but highest I have seen is with rosa

[slender venture]

I'll use Summer Tate

[thin wren]

if only rosa didn't form change on sync

[teal harness]

maybe colress himself lol

[true locust]

Rosa switch forms kill it

[slender venture]

Summer Tate can para so you can swap in a sing pair easy

[thin wren]

So unfortunate

[true locust]

I now rosa is slow did whit hear solo lg arena when got hear was take forever

[thin wren]

the top dds for the next 2 dds seem pretty clear cut

[true locust]

So she is only good spam sing

[thin wren]

Lucas for dragon st

and dahlia for water aoe

[true locust]

Can be nc nate too

[pallid girder]

Dark st could be SS Cyrus + SC Zinnia if ppl find a way to keep guage.

[true locust]

We dont have aoe penalty

[thin wren]

her solos were so long in lg

[true locust]

So hard tell his numbers

[teal harness]

triple ice will be fun with nc red

[true locust]

Nc red need alot set up

[thin wren]

Lucas nuke is 50% stronger even if we account for Nate circle and lucas compresses seun,zone and speed buffs

[true locust]

Nate have zone too

[thin wren]

Yes but Lucas compresses even more

[safe prawn]

Gear issue

[lethal siren]

Don't have her

[true locust]

All depend on partners

[thin wren]

Both can splash in v Lance I think?

[true locust]

Lucas is blue and melony

[thin wren]

not v Lance?

[true locust]

And nate can be rosa bianca

[pallid girder]

I did Red + Elio for him in 3v3, but he definitely can use steel zone + Melony ig.

[true locust]

Why need lance lok?

[thin wren]

He gives rebuff and para

[true locust]

You need sped from nc blue low spe def

And maks lukac special attack

Not use his tm

[thin wren]

Oh right Lucas buffs

yeh nc blue then

[teal harness]

ss roxie will be good for triple poison

[safe prawn]

You may actually want Lucas to use his tms

[crude sandal]

I can see NC Nate be used as zone fodder

[safe prawn]

Bc of super command

[thin wren]

you don't wanna waste them

[pallid girder]

Why Lucas can't use TM?

[true locust]

For nc nate can he sc steven red lax bianca rosa alot choise

[thin wren]

I am more curious on how much c iris gets

[thin wren]

super command 4 so you don't wanna waste all early

[true locust]

Iris? Dont see it

Super comand need for last syncs

[thin wren]

I doubt she will be best but I wanna see how much she hits for

[true locust]

Not for 1

[crude sandal]

I forget, does V. Lance have Dragon Breath?

[thin wren]

he does have mpr so you could get mpr on every tm if you are lucky

t wave

[true locust]

V lance have thundet wave

So insta para

[thin wren]

can't spam unfortunately

[pallid girder]

Technically if you make gauge work you can spam any moves.

[crude sandal]

Hmmm

[true locust]

V lance is not the best since need speed

You cant just spam sing

[crude sandal]

Doesn't matter when you're gonna use Rosa anyways

[pallid girder]

The premise is how to make gauge work lol.

[true locust]

But you need sup sync

So rosa is out

Too long

[crude sandal]

Rosa provides speed anyways

[true locust]

Speed yes if not sync

If you sync rosa - one sync whit lance

Rosa is too slow for it

She speed buff yes spam yes sync no

[thin wren]

won't Lucas prefer a different sing spammer?nc Nate definitely wants rosa tho

[true locust]

Nc nate can be whit alot partners

[pallid girder]

How about Speed Entry VLance + Speed Entry Melony lol

[thin wren]

I wanna see how much I can push iris since I got her 4/5 from the tickets lmao

[true locust]

V lance need super 3 not speed lol

Where damage?

[thin wren]

nate including circle from Bianca has like 350%? multipliers

oh wait no 370%

Lucas is 430%(?) counting all multipliers

[pallid girder]

I was talking about VLancr + Lucas team. If you make gauge work sing isn't a problem so I came up with Speed Entry VLance & Melony.

Prob a bad idea tho lol.

[lethal siren]

If tate didn't have that passive move , he would be good coz spe def low even if thunder wave miss

[thin wren]

nate has about 100 more attack than Lucas' special attack

[lethal siren]

Seasonal tate could be special colress

[crude sandal]

Nate can pair with Redlax and NC Rosa

[lofty stirrup]

Eh, lucas nuke isn't that good tho

[lethal siren]

I have only Lucas tech dragon who can do anything with sync

[thin wren]

it's 160% from grid and he has infinite seun

[lofty stirrup]

Buddy i have 6/5 lucas, ik about his nuke

[crude sandal]

Redlax has para with Body Slam and that can help Rosa with Sing spam

[lofty stirrup]

Tell me a lucas comp and I'll prove it to you

[thin wren]

Maybe biaNCa> redlax?

[thin wren]

Lucas, nc blue and melony

[pallid girder]

The better dragon tech nuker than him needs super long setup which is awkward in dc.

[thin wren]

hassel soon

[pallid girder]

Ciris and ALeon.

[thin wren]

I mean a dragon is probably dropping on Anni

[crude sandal]

If Redlax was 5/5, then he's better since he can give PMUN to Nate

[thin wren]

dragon st is during Anni beginning

tech support hassel real

with 800% easy to setup nuke

[vernal condor]

Tech baxcalibur just sounds wrong lmao

[lofty stirrup]

Individual calcs btw. No team comps included yet

Colress + bianca will boost it even more

[lofty stirrup]

Bianca can give pmun to nate too

Its all about sync accel between bianca and redlax

[thin wren]

do with team comps(nate gets biaNCa, Nate and colress)

[pallid girder]

Its signature move is pretty tech-y tho.

[thin wren]

only paldea league base role in poma yet

*tech base role

[vernal condor]

Oh yeah, the glass canon move that does a baxcabillion damage is "tech-y"

[thin wren]

All paldea league members have had different base roles and ex roles

Cheren is tech.

Their definition of tech is weird

[vernal condor]

And that's dumb

[crude sandal]

Is Brawn Sync or Dragon Wish MPR better for Lucas?

[thin wren]

That means there's nothing stopping tech bax

[vernal condor]

Sync

[thin wren]

you can get everything iirc

[crude sandal]

Because without using a TM, he doesn't gain Super Command 4

[vernal condor]

You shouldn't need the MPR

[pallid girder]

Getting hit and deal more dmg sounds tech-y to me.
Mainline stat doesn't matter.

[vernal condor]

Setting dragon zone each Sync for the seun is too slow

[thin wren]

does Lucas have seun?

you get mpr for the tm

[vernal condor]

Nah it's not like that
It's not if you take damage you deal more damage, it's if you take damage you take more damage

[thin wren]

not dragon wish

[vernal condor]

It's close combat basically

[crude sandal]

Surprisingly, Nate can deal over 80% of Lucas's sync

[vernal condor]

Except instead of -1 in both defenses it's basically -2 but only for 1 turn

[thin wren]

inb4 bax has ss glad passive but for inflictions so he reflects his own double damage to enemies

[vernal condor]

Bruh

[thin wren]

*next move

it's not 1 turn

[vernal condor]

Inb4 glaive rush doesnt have any secondary effect in masters

[lofty stirrup]

For -6 energy grid, nc.nate can ditch the top sync tile

No pmun or smun included

[thin wren]

I mean he has a top 3 striker nuke I am pretty sure

[thin wren]

could Nate b move make up for the difference?

[vernal condor]

It's until his next move so it's basically 1 turn

[crude sandal]

I was wrong NVM

But Nate still has an advantage over Lucas

[lofty stirrup]

What make up lol, nate is nuking harder oooh post sync, absolutely.

That dps of nate is with 0 pmun

Heck

Use bianca's sync 1st if needed

[thin wren]

does Lucas get his 1 more than nate sync buff btw

[lofty stirrup]

Thats why look at the dps

[pallid girder]

Oh I misread it. It sounds like if they make the effect exactly the same it'll be a bad unit

[lofty stirrup]

Too much difference

If we include pmun then its gg

Circle stacking is that op

[crude sandal]

5/5 Nate has everything except circle extension

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000000014300&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFExYZJigrMg&v1=010001061201&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFERQVFhkbHiAiJCgrLi8&v2=010102064800&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFJSYnKSss

[lethal siren]

How much nate can do in dc at 2/5?

[vernal condor]

That's why it will just be a 4 gauge 160 bp move without any effect

[lethal siren]

Without nc rosa

[lofty stirrup]

Will do a shit ton at 3/5. 2/5 is just basically stacking pmun and unleashing one op bmove bcuz most of his nuking tiles are at 3/5

[thin wren]

the issue will be pretty easy to handle if they make it exactly the same. Just use 1 move other than glaive before enemy sync and dodge the double damage

[lethal siren]

Yup
I have 3/5 Lucas

[pallid girder]

Or bmove with some insane made up effect.

[crude sandal]

Wait wait, I was wrong again. I miscalced because of the sync buffs

[vernal condor]

Give him 3 trainer moves

And only glaive rush

[lofty stirrup]

For dragon ST stage, lucas should only be used if used alongside nc.nate. Or else lucas should be skipped

[crude sandal]

It's funny how a base striker almost is the same as a base tech

[lofty stirrup]

This'll get you atleast 1M to 1.5M without issues

[thin wren]

I feel like Lucas having 1 more sync buff means he can increase the sync gap more right?

[pallid girder]

Err if you use NCNate there's litterally no need Lucas.

[lethal siren]

That's great
I will be happy with that

It's without nc rosa right?

[thin wren]

what partners and does lucas have 1 more sync buff?

[lofty stirrup]

1 more sync buff for the 1st time only. You can get more by using nate's dps as well. Overall nate's one will be higher

And from 2nd and 3rd sync onwards, nate will have an even higher peak than lucas. Also, don't forget about sure crit

[lofty stirrup]

Yes

[crude sandal]

Not to mention Nate's field lasts long enough because he has 2 support EX units with him

[lethal siren]

Ok

[lofty stirrup]

Do you have nc.bianca?

[lethal siren]

No
Didn't get

[crude sandal]

Both 2 sync buffs

[lethal siren]

Both nc unova didn't come to me

[crude sandal]

Oh wait, I forgot to account for V. Lance's rebuff on Lucas's team

[lofty stirrup]

Eh should be fine. Use colress with him for sure

[crude sandal]

Hold on

[lethal siren]

Ohk

[pallid girder]

Maybe Lucas can use Rosa but never sync with Rosa bc he gets support ex too.

[lofty stirrup]

Oh, t.wave spam from vlance?

[lethal siren]

Rosa has sprint ex role

[thin wren]

Bianca gives 2 sync buffs. Nate next sync makes it 3. Blue gives lucas 2 sync buffs. Nate next sync makes it 4 so Lucas should always have more sync buffs

[lofty stirrup]

What are the team comps? Bcuz based on team comps, nate can end up nuking higher than lucas for the 1st sync

[thin wren]

Lucas has support exr so Lucas should have 1 more

[crude sandal]

My Lucas team has V. Lance and NC Rosa

Also this

About a 66-70% difference

[lofty stirrup]

3 to 4 sync buff jump is not a worthy difference especially when you include nate's dps over lucas's dps. That above calc is without any pmuns

[pallid girder]

Change form and need to bmove back, which is a headache in dc and doesnt really save much time.

[crude sandal]

Nate team has Redlax and NC Rosa

[lofty stirrup]

Vlance + nc.nate + nc.bianca without any pmuns

Too overwhelming for a ST dragon DC stage

[normal parcel]

Leer isn't that fast and b move is really slow

Ah wait she has regular leer

Not b leer like steven

[lofty stirrup]

Look at the difference in their 2nd syncs. Only a bit much. This difference can be very very easily offset by the dps lol. You are giving too much credit to support ex

[lethal siren]

Can you do colress, nate and redlax

[crude sandal]

Does Nate have circle active?

[lofty stirrup]

Redlax for seun?

[lofty stirrup]

Yes

[crude sandal]

Are they both 5/5?

[lofty stirrup]

Both phys circle from nate and defensive circle from bianca are active

Both?

[crude sandal]

Nate and Lucas

[normal parcel]

Isn't nate redundant with Lucas?

[lofty stirrup]

Oh yeah. I'm using nate's 5/5 grid for energy but he can ditch the top sync tile if he wants for 3/5 builds

Lucas can ditch dragon zone extension for 3/5 builds

[lethal siren]

Yes

[lofty stirrup]

Its the other way. Lucas is redundant

[pallid girder]

You're gonnna spam a 2-bar move with only team +3 speed?

[crude sandal]

I can afford all of Nate's multipliers and sync move power up nodes

[normal parcel]

Isn't Lucas sync stronger for single target?

[lofty stirrup]

We are not touching scale shit lol

[crude sandal]

Nate is close to Lucas

[thin wren]

nate has 8 pmun since I assume that's reasonable for final hit. Lucas has 4 sync buffs nate 3

[normal parcel]

I guess field ex makes up for circle animation

[lofty stirrup]

Wait? This is the grid I used for the calc but it needs 5/5 for 9 extra energy. So for 3/5, just ditch the top sync tile

[thin wren]

The gap is quite big in my calcs

[thin wren]

Lucas has v Lance and melony as partners btw

[lofty stirrup]

Send grids and your tool config

[crude sandal]

This is the grid I have with 5/5 Nate
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10001/61201?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFERQVFhkbHiAiJCgrLi8&x=true

[lofty stirrup]

Team comps too

[thin wren]

Sending my lucas config

*Lucas comp

[lofty stirrup]

No team comp included?

Send me teams

[thin wren]

my nate comp and grid are the same as yours

[crude sandal]

Redlax and NC Rosa

[lofty stirrup]

Colress and bianca?

[lofty stirrup]

I'll check that, give me a min

[thin wren]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=011100014800&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=4444&g0=&v1=016200048300&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFGB0fIyUnKSwuLzM&v2=025500013100&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=44444&g2=

[lethal siren]

Nobody talking abt anni raihan

[thin wren]

yes

[thin wren]

I gave Lucas 4 sync buffs and Nate 3

[crude sandal]

Need trap

And he needs weather, and sandstorm does chip damage and no one has sandstorm immunity

[thin wren]

the sync gap is too big imo

Nate doesn't close this with b move

[lethal siren]

Rip

[lofty stirrup]

Pmun not included
Seun included
Rosa + redlax
Super effective on dragon type included(wasnt included in my previous calcs so dont get confused)