#Damage Challenge
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so there won't be the slight time loss if sing misses
2.5 mil with ss glad and fairy
*penny

I mean SS Gladion is also a run up to anni unit instead of the real anni unit.
I think they don't do "weaker on purpose bc of anni" thing.
Ss glad is simply built different
SS gladion was a proper 4.5 anni unit (1 of 3), he just came out a bit earlier - but he lasted to the end of March, same as Geeta and Silver
Nemona isnt an anni unit, her banner ends mid-September. She is the "bait"
There will be 3 real anni pairs
and Nemonas kit IS a bit underpowered/janky honestly, idk why
She's probably made to go with some future paradox
ss glad came out the oven with perfect enablers
3 years of Dena making broken fairy enablers to make diantha work
all went to ss glad
there's a reason fairy is a top 3-4 comp rn
and it's the best type at supplying mun so ss glad could fully abuse it
The definition of anni units SHOULD BE units released on Feb/Aug 28th and onward. You can't change that just bc some banners last longer than the others lol.
I meant reset to avoid the confusion, but I don't know if that's really necessary,
What's the best team that doesn't rely on the 10% miss and doesn't includes penny? Or more than 1/5 SS wally (not Rolex)
And how much can score
confusion is actually optimal
.....for 5 mil+
Doesn't confusion slows down?
if they hit themselves it isn't too much of a time loss and ss glad doesn't mind time loss as much. Ss Wally debuffs sp def on confused opps
Ah that was the part I was missing, don't know much about invested wally kit
I mean I used confusion on my run too, but just because I used Bede and NC rosa
Plus I had like 9% damage boost on regular moves against confused opponents from skill gears
Never thought that kind of skill gear would have been useful for dc
Don't know if I may improve the run by swapping teammates assuming my SS wally is 1/5 and no penny (my score is 2.59m pretty far from the best scores)
But I assume all the high scores rely on busted teammates and or the miss
Maybe I could score a bit more with 3/5 NC Rosa, since I got a +9 b move with 3/5 I could get a +10
allister

fuck it we irida <500k score
I would have though sc irida could have a chance to 1 mil

My best option will be yarrdenia.
Lmao
She will setup easier against one opponent
I'll try FMorty :3
honestly i dunno about our options.
I have her 2/5...
meh.
maybe under 500k is an overstatement lol but i honestly don't see her reaching 1mil in a comfortable manner at least
Rei: NYDawn gaming
kuku
my brother in christ you have 3/5 SSR
yeah i think she couldd do it.
i'll probably hit 1m with ssr cynthia
but ii wannaa know my options.
Cynthia is the only option for you
also she could hit 1.5M or even 2M in best runs if you have 3/5 NC blue or 3/5 F.Allister
Me asking non 3/5 ssr cynthia havers: whats your plan?
3/5 Ssr cynthia haver: hmmm idk who to choose, maybe ssr cynthia
I have both 1/5, I will try Alister, maybe if I can't score 1m I can invest in Cynthia's stonks, don't really like her nuke, and her 80% crit is an huge deterrent for my candies, but at least she's a masterfair, so I guess I will never get spare dupes by mistake
If Allister won't work, I'll use candies on Cynthia
Haha you not flex but skinny i mean:) i no its possible when she score around it. And i find a way off score even more then she did . But this need better gears alot rng and invest in wally 10E. Wat i dont wana do it😘. Hard tell if need more then 3/5 since i dont now wat grid she use. But 6.2m is possible i let you now . But i have zero motivation try hard haha
No SS Korrina mention for tomorrow rotation 
Just like LG, if there's evasion there's a way
She'll do fine
Cannot mention her when I don't have her 
...which may be partially my fault. Even on selects there's someone I need to prioritize lol
And I pulled on Elaine/Red/Anabel last June over Korrina/Argenta/Lana
helena is decent but she has no EX, Dena why?
SS Korrina?
Still someone to enhance his 1 b move
Who can give smun stacks, fairy zone, fairy rebuff etc.
And SEUN
ah okay
if someone drops aa support exr ss korrina
tomorrow, like a better nuke than ssr cynthia
maybe xd
Am I screwed 
"Just use candies." by Dena probably.
I'm in a similar spot (except that my anni Lillie is 1/5 (not that she will be any useful)
you guys have limited ghosts 
My ghost and ground roster can go to hell
I feel like that's almost everyone
ground has courtney so whatever
how do you even skip Cynthia / Giratina (!) .. unfathomable
plus she had like 2 or 3 reruns now
unless its 1/5 and you never used candies
simp
didnt get her on the 1st run
didnt age well enough to get her on reruns
i'll just get a ghost dps one day
Smh if not bc of HS, she’ll stuck at 1/5 in my account
- Break
- Break
- When was her third run again?
we already have SC Irida with much higher regular move damage, but Cynthia is still 2x better in DC.
zone setter + good nuke + Tech+Strike isnt easy to beat
You take breaks? As in - stop playing and logging in?
I am a week 1 player who played till 2nd anniversary
then took a break till mid October
last year
I've never taken a break. If I ever think about it - will probably just uninstall.
Too many gems missed if you take a break
I am too lazy to think about that plus my roster when I left was pretty amazing for the time
So didn't wanna uninstall
I was casual for the majority of my time playing, but I keep up with the news regularly to know when to come back to just pull lol
It was early this year when I started playing much more, and regularly
So there's a few important units I got, but also some I missed (RIP Ash)
at this point even a Strike role Adaman wont beat him
Depends, Adaman has -2 grass rebuff so he could almost match him
By himself
SS Korrina is gonna have a fun time, just snatch those one time buffs and then just keep syncing until the fight is over
Using Redlax and SS Acerola with the ff.:
- 4 sync buffs
- -2 grass rebuff
- -6 defense
- Sun and GT active
- SEUN
- +40 attack via skill gear (pretend to be striker EXR)
Yup
Still need rng but let's see
redlax and acerola means no spammer, so you would only get like ~4 syncs total (2 Adaman syncs) ? That wouldnt beat 6M
Do the math
That's Adaman's first sync, which is 618k * 3 = 1.854M
2nd sync at 5 sync buffs is 715k * 3 = 2.145M
3rd sync at 6 sync buffs is 817k * 3 = 2.451M
I doubt sync spam can beat ss glad score anymore
And that's only minimal variance that I accounted for
If SS Acerola gets sprint EXR, then a 7th sync might be possible
if you can get him to sync 3 times (and 5 syncs total), then yeah, it should be above 6M
But can you? Without any status spammer
I think you only get 4 syncs, no?
fairy only got 4 syncs without spammer
You're gonna spam Rock Smash with Redlax or spam Adaman's TM if it comes
and fairy has ss wally
is this grass - single?
Adamans 2 b-moves also arent quick
I dont see 5 syncs
Grass 3v3 assuming striker EXR Adaman
what accel does the comp have other redlax?
Nothing unless SS Acerola gets it too
idt you get in 5 syncs realistically
SS acerola Sprint would help, but probably still not enough for 5 syncs?
either way he probably wont get Strike anyway lol
You put HS1 on Acerola and Redlax
also maybe you would ditch Redlax and bring BP barry instead - lose SEUN, but get more syncs
fairy got in 4 syncs barely while having ss Wally
You'd also lose the sprint EXR
And also Redlax has Adrenaline in his grid too
sync spam is much more impactful than sprint EXR though i think? even with adrenaline
I don't think sync spam can beat ss glad score unless the syncer has the strongest sync in history
it's a lot more impactful unless you are ss wally yeh
Red's TM while giving SEUN + Accel is also quite slow
It gives -1 sync in return
Also, maybe spam Adaman's TM if it comes
yeah you're never getting 5 total syncs without a dedicated status spammer.
yeah but it's still a noticeable time loss, and in this particular scenario we want 5 syncs
^
Since the grid I'm using bridges TM MPR to Haymaker
Actually, Adaman's nuke requires you bridge TM MPR for the cheapest energy cost possible anyways
redlax animations are too slow even with sprint and -1 sync on TM.
also moral support triggering?
Adaman also has b move and sunny day and gt anim?
wait how slow is gt anim
If anyone wants to test it for me, please do
SS wally has sprint and also a ton of sync reduction and the Gladion comp still only barely did 4 syncs
its basically impossible to do 5+ syncs w/o status spam
The best fairy team uses 3 B Moves total while my best team only uses 2 but has delayed animation due to healing
Penny also delays with aoe regen
And also aoe confuse delay from wally
But then he also gives discombulate 9 misses
Doesn't Penny also delay because of Mind Games?
oh wait loI I forgot that G.T. will also make them do healing on grass attacks.
lol even 4 syncs will be hard then, forget 5
yeah even Strike Adaman cant beat 6M
Wait DC fairy broke 6M already?
Tell me, how long is Gladion's B Move?
Because I tested Adaman's B Move and it takes about 10 seconds to complete along with healing from GT
Wow
Never thought SS Wally could be so good with SS Gladion
no idea, but it doesnt matter
because of Grassy Terrain - you will have lost time on EVERY Grass attack. Thats GG for trying to get 5 syncs
you are probably better off swapping SS acerola for BP barry
if there was a ~fuel economy1 TWave SupportEX - thats what you need .. with 6-7 total syncs, Strike Adaman could possibly beat 6M even without G.terrain
Wow, wasn't expecting to break 3mil, thanks G_Hyperstar!
Well,I've alrealdy tested how long his B Move will be
12 total
Huh even longer than Adaman's B Move under GT
12 is including smun and grad heal (idk if grad heal should be there)
Penny's TM most likely
Is just that I don't like much her sync, 80% crit, physical sync with smarty pants, and she can't even reliably setup it by herself
I mean ghost doesn't have much else to offer for single target sync I guess
Its a pain for AoE, but she still got 4M there, which is a lot (also being physical means you benefit from Def drops too). For 3v1 its fine, no worse than SS Hilberts.
Its more so that she was out since (late) 2021 and Ghost had 0 real alternatives all that time, with SC irida only coming out in 2024 - and her nuke is still worse in DC
My best Ghost pair is Morty 
Sadly Morty won't cut it
Is great for AOE, but single target his nuke won't do much
Maybe allister can do something, but just virulent toxin 5 is pretty sad
oh right ghost ST tomorrow
I can candy SSR Cynthia for it if Hop is nice to me but I’m summoning for him on Thursday to combine with my Bede summons
worst case I champion SC Irida again but this seems bad ngl
How badly i wanted to pull SS Wally (and Penny to a lesser extent) from the free tickets these last 2 days lol. Cant imagine to break 2.5M without Wally
How about NY Dawn? She has a potent sync right? Too much to set up?
NY Dawn comp would be NC Blue and I guess a sing spammer
#1 will be SSR Cynthia
#2 will be SS Korrina
#3 could be either NY Dawn or maybe Fall Morty, both are usablish. Although maybe its SC Irida
the #3s arent even guaranteed to get 1M
ss korrina isnt better?
i would think rising tide is op
ehh then again ghost zone
Why would she be better ? Korrina is 120% (innate) + 120%. Cynthias multipliers are 100% (innate) + 150%.
Ghost zone is a flat x1.5 boost and Cynthia gives herself 2 SEUNs.
Korrina has support EXR which is better for 3v1 (plus some evasion rng), but its not enough to make up for the above.
2 Shadowballs isnt hard and Korrina has to use her steal attack, which is a long animation (its basically as long as a b-move)
they both have to use TMs twice to get to +6 Attack
2 shadowballs isnt enough to set cynthia up what
it is, each shadowball can do -2 SpDef with good rng = -4 .. NC Blue sync handles the remaining -2
automod eliminated him
idk how realistic that is to reset for tm mpr and -2 sp def from each shadow ball
and you also want def debuffs too
cuz the sync is still physical
Sounds doable to me, there has been far worse rng in DC. And it's all at the start
and you get def debuffs too - 33% chance from a shadowball and than NC blue sync also gives -2. So you'll have -6 spdef and likely either -2 or -3 def
enemies buff speed, so not an issue
She can afford 0aR2 along full sync, so she would have 60% on Shadow Ball's innate drop and 66% from Sundering, so 40% of -2 per Shadow Ball
About 5% succes rate if resetting for TM MPR and two -2 Shadow Ball's first three turns
About 1.2% if you reset for -2 Sp.def -1 Def Shadow Balls
if you see TM didnt refresh right away - can just restart immediately. Otherwise continue. Not so bad
0.4*0.4 is 16% chance.
the defence drops from shadowballs can be ignored, even if you dont get any, -2 from ncblue is enough (there is a lot of diminishing returns with debuffs)
Also if you see that you are still having 3-5 seconds left after your last sync (i.e. impossible to get to next sync anyway), then it means you can afford a 3-rd shadowball without losing a sync.
Its not optimal (since you can use a shadowforce instead in that time), but it will get you 90-95% of the score.
Maybe you can even afford 3 shadowballs + a last second shadowforce, both, still without losing a sync (which is always at least 20+ seconds to get to even with Melony spam). Depends on timings
And that last shadowforce can probably get you an extra 100K-150K, since its high BP + always automatic SEUN
I'll experiment with SC Steven + Elio since a PMUN packed Shadow Force in the last few seconds might be good
SC steven + elio doesnt work, you dont have paralysis.
Larry + Elio works though
or SC Steven + BP barry
but both Steven and Larry lack SupportEX, their main drawback
unless you meant use Elio sings without paralysis.
The 3 Cynthia comps are basically:
-NC blue + Melony
-Fall Allister (3/5) + Elio
-maybe SC Steven + BP Barry
I was getting similar scores with Steven + Elio and Blue + Melony along SS Diantha during rock 3v1, but that might be due to me not being a good enough spammer and not getting enough out of Melony
Anyone got any videos of 1/5 Gladion/Wally/Penny getting a million?
I got 2M with 1/5 Gladion but I had 4/5 Wally and 3/5 NC Rosa to prop him up
With 1/5 Gladion you want to maximize his 1 use of B move
Just running out of time at a million since ghost is tonight
I gave mine Supreme Entry and resetted to miss the 1st Fleur Cannon, and used Rosa to stack SMUN and sync buffs
Since Wally paralyzes anyway to drop Sp.def, Rosa can spam Teeter Dance to accel sync count
She's gonna probably need mgr on that right?
I think it wouldn't matter since Teeter Dance is going to failspam and MGR only works on successful move uses
Cuz I do have 3/5 Rosa I can use
I just wanna make sure I'd have enough speed to keep getting the gauges
If you can release his B Move with 7 SMUN (5 from two uses of Rosa TM, 1 from Rosa sync and 1 from Gladion TM) and about 4 sync buffs, zone and rebuff that alone should be an easy 1M even without Supreme Entry
Ik when I did Melony blue and Diantha at the end of the battle I ran out of gauge for nelonys sinf
Sync
wait, NY Dawn has Charging Infliction (4!), sure it's not as fast as Sing spam, but means, she can free up a slot for a Zone or rebuff
damn, i forgot, her Ghost extra damage triggers even with status moves lol
the delay is really bad to the point that it's likely better to just use real attacks if you're forgoing status/defend order spam
what status move do you want to spam on NY dawn?
if that's directed at me i don't know her kit
still no 3M on Nemona ?
I think Teeter Dance? The enemies don’t move that often where the confusion would really slow you down a bunch, and iirc Feather Dance is the slower spam move
but also ew extra ghost damage (she does sync for a lot when she’s properly set up though, so still a decent performing option team comp-dependent)
even without the extra ghost damage procs that woud be slow
I want to say in 3v3 I got off a sync with her for like 250k which was surprising to me, but it also took the entire battle to get there
When is the next "ranked" trio?
at earliest September, but nothing is concrete
June - we had HSE
July - ranked DC
August - LG
September will be Ground/Dragon HSE
So most likely October is next DC
yeah DC is not included in the LG/HSE alternation
June was LG15, July was Dark/Ghost HSE
Dc actually links lg to hse for what we have seen
DCR might happen around Anni before we do HSE
This is my highest DC score so far lol
Feather Dance (lowers Attack)
Took me a while to notice Nemo has cd-1 when using sunny day so you only need to go down to 2 with Colress on those cycles
Highly recommend reading
but both Feather Dance and Teeter Dance triggers her passive, so it's a no go (for sync rushing)
The most I've seen ss Nemona did is 2.6M.
I think most ppl just know that she won't break 4M so they stop trying.
next is ghost ST yea?
Which team?
Red + SS Wally.
They said they fired 2bmove to reach it: +10 PMUN & +8 PMUN each.
Thanks!
I guess I could fish for TM mpr with Rosa if I really wanted to go higher
I think I might end up candying renegade cynthia for tomorrow unless either 2/5 Korrina or Victor clears
So who do you guys think is best for triple fire Friday
... and why is it SS Hilda?
mix blue can also probably hang in there but bro knows what he did to me he may as well not exist
still not 3/5? ;< or no paid gems?
nah he's like 8 or 9/5 now but I beat mex's record from mix red drought before my first copy
341 pulls before a single one, 578 for 5/5
yeah so I'm hoping the galar ncs are nice to me so I can use my strike candy on ss hilda and ex her next week and then have a single day to put up a good fire score
I have 170 spirits and 80k paid gems (only because the game actually refuses to let me buy more) so the plan is get the trio and ex them all immediately
dayum.
yeah this is a 3v3 dc we're talking about 1m isn't the most difficult thing
How much are you spending 
hopefully your bank has a higher limit than me, daily.
Not all types can get it 
ok #1 normal type fan
honestly though
SHUT
ss red is tough to setup :/
That hurts 
but fire does have a good mix of options to be serious for a second
My best option is Silver minasmile
eh I budgeted for more spending than I probably should do around anni but my ceiling is all the gem deals (I'm crazy but not that crazy)
sheningans.
Hear me out
holy ex roster
Bp barry/Sc Steven/ Emboar
Lmao
wow, any tips? i have the same team
ye i played the game during beta ❤️
well at least it works off non-attacking moves?
Ok. Regardless i'm gonna gamble this weekend and use NY Wallace
yep. TM or pokemon moves
its a nice power boosts
Just get 10 SMUN again and again ez
SS Gladion gets 3M in a single move!
NY Wallace: Pathetic spams 3M damage moves
Pre power boost she had this
It was funnier
Should've been called Critical Situation
What is a good replacement for SS Wally? I have SS Gladion and Penny
Egg Sylv it is then
I know that Leaf will definitely obliterate single fire
could potentially 2m in triple too
having tons of enabling tools can accomplish that
can't wait for the circle rebuff wtz unit
She can, but I think SS May has a potential slight edge over her
And I think Supreme Entry can help with that
We only have 2 of the three for the circle units
Volo, Nate, wallace, bianca, elio and silver have two of the three
Adaman doesn't really count. His sun is not boosting the same type as grass rebuff.
I'm done 
Yes
ig so, she scored like 4.5M?
Her and SS Korrina being the second best choice
Both are clunky af
ssr cynthia needs sp def debuff and ghost zone
Ss Korrina needs absolutely no stat buffa
She just needs to use Spectral Thieft once
and also needs to raise stats for rising tide
maybe yeah
what else would it be?
SS korinna cant be best without ghost zone. and SEUNs
I predict Cynthias max ~2M, maybe 2.2-2.3M
Korrina is above 1M, maybe up to 1.3-1.5M
and no one else reaches 1M 
Gladion SP3, Penny adrenaline, Wally HS1. First hit with Gladion, then TMs, Penny gives you +3 SMUN, so to have +10 SMUN you need 4 MPR. 8 SMUN should guarantee you ~3M. My first sync is with Wally, then Penny and Gladions as the last one (with Wally and adrenaline it seems impossible, because sync with Gladion and B move occurs in last 5-10 seconds and HS1 removes additional 1 turn in comparison to adrenaline), B move after sync
What's NY dawn's multiplier?
requires only 2 shadow balls
Sync Power Flux, Interference Sync 5 and Rising Tide
with NC Blue + Melony you usually get 7 syncs and then still some time to spare.
That extra time should be enough to fit in 2-3 shadowballs + 2 ghost zones + 2 interrupted shadowforces (they are real quick). Maybe with 1 paralysis on enemy
with a perfect run 2M+ should be doable, SS Diantha and SS Hilbert reached it, no reason why Cynthia cant do the same. Obviously sync damage gears help a lot
Average results will probably be ~1.5M
yea seems not too bad
I find it funny how far above chop and jacq's st scores are compared to others
btw whenever st fairy rolls around is it reasonable to assume that ss glad gets 2.5 mil?
yeah C.Hop and Jacq are unreachable for single results. Not even by Adaman or Lucas or SS gladion or NC nate
But they are only for 3v1, whereas SS Hilbert and SSR Cynthia are just as good in 3v3's
chop and jacq were like 3 mil right?
Ig she's 1M-able with Red + Elio then.
How good/bad was Allister?
Bad sync multiplier + requires poison.
His multipliers are restrain and poison
i know, but my garbage phone cant open docs so I cant check scores 
How long does restrain last
You forgot Flying. AltGloria also hit 3M in the end.
Even disregarding the poison requirement, Alister only has virulent toxin 5, his options look very grim
alt gloria had 3M in Flying ? Do you have any screenshot ? I only saw 2M+
But still, C.Hop and Jacq had 3.4M+ and C.Hop will improve that result next time
Fall Allister 3/5 + Elio could be the best comp
-2 Ghost Rebuff + Hex with 100% Para 
For 3v1 ghost most likely, for 3v3 I think it would still be Blue + Melony
for 3v3 people were using Lenora/NC Leaf with Cynthia - to have AoE SpDef+Def debuffs.
Not sure if that was what first place (4M) used or not
Oh right she needed aoe debuffs
I used leaf for leer and somehow I still brainfarted haha 
yeet.
Ghost will have speed issues lets be honest.
Elio is great with gauge whenever sync spam is viable
there's no such thing as speed issues. You either use nc blue +6 speed or Elio/BP Barry/colress (infinite gauges)
6 moves I think?
It's like Trapped but minus the dot
Helena's ||Haunter|| be licking the opposition like a popsicle
That's how her solo is done in LG
She has Smarty-Pants, Paralyze sync multiplier, and self evasion but no Tech EX 
My record before a single copy is also 341, it just came early into Blue's banner after nothing on Red's
Hmmm okay
325 with nothing on red, 16th unit from Blue's banner was him
I remember when Mix Blue's banner on day one, I pulled
I got a mix unit. It was 7/5 Red
Damn
I remember pulling redlax from the half anni 10 scouts and being just tired enough that I thought I finally got mix red
Having the same mindscape and almost exactly the same dialogue is evil
Its very slightly different
One has "!" right lol
Redlax is ... ... ...! while Mix Red is ... ... ...? iirc
Oh the othee one has "?" 
i'm saving everything until 5th anni drops.
Yeah it is a whole thing
293/300 for a pity.
I think im waiting for anni before going back in on Mix, I have enough for all my select choices now at least
Currently at 223/300. Planning to resume once Anni hits
160/300, 3/5 Mix Blue
I think im pitying Mix Red next time I get there and thats kinda sad
I will be very shocked if we don't get Mix Leaf next month
Although, I won't lose my mind over it since I highly doubt Leaf would get Rain Extend
I'm gonna laugh if they troll us and it isnt mix leaf and blastoise
Mix Cynthia and Togekiss 
I haven't pitied mix scout at all 😮
Mix Cynthia and Milotic with basically what Mix Leaf's kit wouldve been
this'll be my first one ❤️
oh that's actually true HRM 😮
Anyone gonna neglect this DC and waiting for this Friday?
Oh, ghost?
I have Renegade Cynthia, so I'm good
Fair enough, I didn't do Cheren and Blue because of major stuff that has happened on those times
Just go in, bonk them once with any ontype move, set speed to max, and sit around until it ends I guess
I skipped flyying ST and left with 400k.
what happens when all your flying DDers are 1/5
Wonder if someone will manage to find a way to get 1M with F2Ps on this one.
It'd be funny if Agatha manages it when she just got a little spotlight in Oak's scenes

Is this team gonna max Smarty Pants?
Not sure
Victor has OaR on his Shadow Ball at least
But even with complete multipliers Helena's sync is hot trash
Yeah, non EXable character coming off a barely 400 spatk stat and only a couple multipliers
So for the triple ghost DC I had done giratina/barry/mc leaf based on this discord recommendations but I'm guessing people now would suggest melony/redlax instead? Or colress?
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3/5 FAllister if you have him. -2 rebuff and para.
i'm thinking Fallister/Melony/SS Korrina 2/5
Just ex mawile and grab a quick 1M. You only have 4 hrs left.
if your units aren't 3/5 in this mode, don't expect 1 mil
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i have yet to see a 1/5 unit as the main damage dealer do 1 mil
Diantha can't get her signature Devastation multiplier at 2/5 
1/5 NC Marnie and 1/5 SS Gladion did it, admittedly with premium teammates tho.
Wally's better than Egg Sylveon, at least
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Sync skipper
1/5 not enough?
Probably BP Barry, since he can give support EX. Or you can sync with Wally first to mega evolve and get access to that Fairy Rebuff
He can't para at 1/5, he needs 3/5 for it
But what if I just use colress as the 3rd
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I feel like giratina/colress/gourgeist is solid since I can time the 2 turn move with enemy sync for a SEUN sync or 2, and still get the 2 rebuff, zone, -defense, and a support sync
Oh you mean Colress over sing unit.
It seems weird to me that melony/redlax/giratina would outperform colress/gourgeist/giratina since you already can get 1 or 2 SE syncs due to cancel mechanic of the 2 turn move
You really don't need Redlax for SSR Cynthia since she can technically get SEUN but you need to pop Shadow Force just before they sync, you get to keep the SEUN and Shadow Force gets cancelled
Yes that's what I'm saying
It's still way faster to have FAllister doing para with a Sing unit because Sing spam is WAY faster than TWave or Stun Spore spam
what i want to know, who has a better sync? 1/5 SC Irida, or 2/5 SS Korrina?
and 1/5 SC irida having her lucky sync multiplier
I don't know. I don't have SSWally so I don't have firsthand experience with him, sorry
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Both, you lose more time if they don't hit themselves but save some time if they do hit themselves
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Sync dmg really isn't Gladion's strength so he's always better with a SEUN or SMUN stack support than BP Barry.
Here comes ghost weak
I await the Allister chefs to cook something up
Actually may try later if I have the time
Marshowdow isn't doing anything
Thankfully both Red and Colress have Antitoxin on their grids
Marshadow sync isn't doing dmg
someone tell me why I can't land a paralysis with Red, but land several natural crits with Red 😭
Yeah I tried using Marshadow
Ewww
Top 10 already have 1 mil. TELL US!
With ssrc?
we don't know who they used
ssrc only gets one seun on her own this time
they don't reach second sync
i'm at 885k rn
it's awkward
Omg TWINS @safe prawn
Will 2/5 Korrina cut it for this one?
maybe allister can be useful here?

Ugh just 1 more nuke orz
allister is terrible, even worse than Morty
Wait youre not nuking with smarty pants? Hmmm
Casually dropping shadow balls + ncblue nuke to drop
Also my first sync did not crit
Lol
Cynthia and giratina dps, grids and skills at the end.
cynthia, moltres, bp barry
I hate smarty pants 
EXR?
i'm actually trying elio redlax
I was gonna focus on SSR Cynthia, but then I was too lazy to figure out how to reconcile her Smarty Pants with the fact you only have like three minutes
sludge wave can suck my
three shadow balls with sundering 9 gives you -5 def
Missed one crit 
along with 3/5 nc blue tile
Isn't it always a coin flip, though? Because I know she has On a Roll 2 as well
i got 2 double def drops, one single def, and then a shadow ball proc without oar
I see. Maybe I will try her
This shit is easier than i expected, huh?
-6 Sp.Def / -3 Def
Also, i didn't use 60k orbs for this, btw
so looks like only Cynthia and Korrina can reach 1M
SC Irida can't?
I only have her at 1/5, but she seems like she could
or maybe just on 3v3
SC Irida is shit on DC
Not in 3v1
who debuffed the spdef and def?
cynthia?
Her and NC Blue
nc blue can too
Arent her debuffs slow?
Yes.
yup
lol
So far SSR Cynthia and SS Korrina got 1M+? (How bout some other units?)
Yes
So who's SS Hilda's best team besides RedLax?
NC Leaf/SS Hilda/NC Rosa
Morty and allister are the only ghosts I have ex'd
Oh ok
Me and @thin wren have been debating
Which will be better..2/5 SS Cynthia or 4/5 SS Korina? SS Cynthia is EXR
Wrong place
whoops
Most prob SS Korina 4/5
With good rng and 5/5 I bet 2m is possible
and gears
Finally orz
Ggs
Should I use cynthia lillie or korrina here LOL
12% sync dmg, not bad. Max is 45% though xD
yea mine is +5%
Did you super effective up next
me yes
With Cynthia
Yea then that’s basically the max
I got 2x double special D drops from the first two shadow balls
To hit 1.4
I REALLY want that Hostile environment so bad 
how many syncs total?
2x from each support and Cynthia synced 3 times
So 7 buffs
First Cynthia sync should be around 1:30 otherwise reset

Is it possible to get 1M with Red/Cynthia/Barry ._.
Probably but easier to swap red for leaf and moltres
Don't have those that's why using this
Do you have Lenora
This is my best ig
Cynthia and giratina dps, grids and skills at the end.
If you have Lenora can swap her for moltres
Alright, what's the penalty for AoE status conditions?
75%
And Hostile Environment 3 boost my status condition by 40% ?

Oh this is actually miserable lol
Barely got the 1M 😮💨
hmmmmm
30% x 4 = 120%
BUT with 75%.......
aoe penalty for 3 is 50%
Is there any sub for Barry
Oh God........
yeah it's bad
How many syncs do you do with Cynthia?
Im stuck at 750k :((
But how
so even though nc blue should have a 90% shot it's awful if you want early paras on everything
bc 45% per
in single target it's much better bc no penalty
- Sync with Barry, 2. with Red, 3+4+5 with Cynthia. The timing is really tight though
This shit is gonna make me insane
ooh I see, adrenaline on both Barry Red?
Wait so even 3/5 Cynthia fails?
3/5 Cynthia is easy 1M
No, Head Start 1. Adrenaline is only an alternative if you don't have HS1
This is what I have to work with currently
Will probably send either Korrina or Cynthia to 3/5
Cynthia is better and can clear 3 target content as well if you have ex role
Doesn’t need ex role for 1 target though
Yeah, I used it three times for additional Spdef drops so Gengar is -6 at best
For Smartypants
okay
Allister for rebuff isn't useful?
at 3/5 he is
Cynthia normal get SEUN for her 1st or 2nd Sync ?
I found rotation that help her get SEUN for 2nd Sync instead of 1st one
For Blue and Melony team
if you do 2 support syncs it's her first
Can anyone tell
Ssrc, redlax and third pair?
Yes, i use Melony and Blue Sync first
And then Cynthia
elio or bp barry, gauge is still bad to fire off all the shadow balls you need with elio
so bp barry is worth considering kinda
And then still able to use Shadow Force to get hit by Sync and save SEUN for 2nd Sync
Not me forgetting to add on Brainteaser on SSR Cynthia 
i'll test it
How do I use colress/barry/redlax efficiently? I see people using them a lot for DC but I have no idea what to do with them
Happy enough with this result (thanks to a flinch and paralyse)
for colress and bp barry you grid infliction freebie or charging infliction and you can spam your para move without consuming gauge
so you can just use that for most of the fight to get to syncs quickly
redlax is there to provide super effective up nexts to buff syncs
I see. And should I sync using the supports first or my main damaged attacker?
Cynthia didn’t get mpr and got poison
But as you can see i can save SEUN for my 2nd Sync
So essentially just boost my main dps-> spam paralyse with Barry/colress and sync with my supports?
I think he can score a bit higher, only +4spatk, coz I forgot to use Elio's TM
Also missed one crit or two on syncs
Yeah basically spam paralyze so you get to syncs faster
Do your support(s) and then do whoever dealing your damage
the very first try with a TM MPR (3 shadowballs and I think I forgot the SF trick to get SEUN for sync lol)
127k dmg with 4 sync boosts and 107k dmg with 5 sync boosts
why does this fking sht have to troll me
with crit
every fking time
2-3 times sync never fking crits

the top 1 is 1.7M right now.
Should definitely break 2M by the end
i try
but she ends up taking a long time to recharge a sing
and that's even when using x speed all +
try Elio then
Have you been boosting Speed? That's part of the reason why she's paired with NC Blue is for his +6 speed
Did she have Troublemaker 1 ?
+3 Speed isn't really enough to enable Melony's sing spam. But yeah, if you're still having issues, you can go for Elio instead, he's a bit slower than Melony but he's more self sufficient
no clue how
How many Sync Cynthia can throw in this stage ?
do i give cynthia 2 candies just for this
Not really, candying someone just for DC isn't worth it.
Only if they are on your candy plans. Else, don't do it
I got 6 total (so 4 Cynthia syncs), but it was a sub-optimal run. In theory with good para procs and only 2 shadowballs - maybe 7 total.
Majority of units I candied on DC are on my list already. DC only just decided on the order of those units because otherwise I am too indecisive
Acid, Heat Wave, Sludge Wave. Why do they always put the most annoying moves in the already cursed 3v1 stages???
Got that sweet -6 in tree turns only that one time I got poisoned 
Need some help here, Anni Lillie does have Tech EX.
Yeah, same, I 3/5 SS Diantha during ST Rock but still needed a meta Rock attacker. Outside of that, most of my units have been already invested for general use before DC was even a thing.
Morty looks your best option imo
Dodges and 200% multipliers can pull something
Not 1M but others looks bad
What did you used on triple ghost?
Victor is better than Morty
I'm getting tired of the RNGs
(must be a SkillIssue)
- Getting Poisoned
- No MP Refreshes
- No Crits on Sync
(This is the highest I got)
is it normal for ss cynthia to be consistently hitting less than 100k with 4x sync boost.... in ghost zone
Anni Lillie, she wasn't that bad there tbh
True
by the 7th sync grid im not even hitting 200k per sync with zone, like wth is this
how are u even doing so much dmg
Victor got a miserable 50% multiplier 
Even non EX morty can score better under ghost zone, he got ssrCynthia for it after all
Missed 1 crit 
My 1st Sync almost hit 200k tho
oh fk thats prob why
whats ur blue and cynthia grid
im already screwed by tm not refreshing

but time tho
And sludge wave's poison is 10%
feels more like 50%
So if you really got hit with that 5% poison- 
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
this stage sucks because enemy only syncs once
everytime i play 3v1 i pray dena goes bankrupt for making me suffer....
Yeah, that why i try to save SEUN for 2nd Sync
Does Hop increase defense?
Shadow Force before enemy Sync
but I wont be using SS Hilda kek
Who?
Even if he doesn't Colress just ignores it in exchange for a few seconds
3/5 EXR NY Wallace
That's a neat thing
I won't use him
This is my team
That's literally the team I theorycrafted
Also why Team Stoic on Rosa?
also is pinpoint accuracy needed?
or can i keep HS1
Nah, it just helps Melony spam Sing faster
Which has faster animation? V-Create or Rosa's TM?
And helps me save SEUN for 2nd Cynthia’s Sync
Like I said, Hilda only needs 2 buffs since she has innate 16 buffs on her own
OHHHHH
Hilda only needs Rosa's TM to complete Rising Tide
Ok i see i see
Or Rosa's B Move
didn't think preserving seun was worth it
bc then you're just syncing without zone and without full debuffs and that's a waste too
and the attempt i did ended with 750k lol
I still debuff to -5 Def/SpDef and still have Zone for 1st Sync tho
While saving SEUN for 2nd Sync
so when do u spam shadowball?
At the beginning ofc
before anyone syncs right
triple queue
with blue cynthia and melony
?
oh sht didnt see the video
on mobile my bad
wait, what exactly are you doing to make it so Cynthias first sync comes before enemy 1-st sync ? (so you can have SEUN for her 2-nd sync)
LUL 3 retrys and i finally get tm refresh... get poisoned on cynthia
did you give Melony Pinpoint Accuracy 2 cookie?
use Elio instead of Melony if you dont want to deal with TM refresh
5% status
Not going to lie, this time I might settle on a lower score. Not feeling like wasting candies for that one
If only NY Dawn was viable
Got 1 million with Morty strat
Oh.

Elio + EVictor + Allister 580k. PAIN.
Don't even ask me how FMorty score.
poisoned again on cynthia
holy
why is cynthia tje only one getting poisoned
and died
from shadowball
constantly screwed by rng
so basically, burn the moment she uses searing shot?
Ehh, just sleep enemy 3 times
When they sleep, their gauge just doesn’t move like at all
Yes
So while they sleeping, shadow ball just punishs you less for long animation
Still lose time but enemy doesn’t recover gauge from it
Did it for science
Even with no poison RGN and Steven shutting everyone who called him bait by refreshing
is there a full run version of this yet?
I didn’t plan to upload it so i didn’t record full run
So no FAllister -2rebuff gaming yet?
ah
what's your high score so far?
I can't break 1m yet
Renegade Cynthia 3/5 barely getting 1m seems so sad, I'm cooked if I don't invest
Doubt allister will ever get close to 1m
Read this #1255888121648644197 message
I did that so i could save SEUN for 2nd Cynthis’s Sync
oh sht
Does SS Korrina have SEUN move or no?
I'm 1.6M with 3/5 SSR Cynthia
skill issue
LMAO I am Master 1 for the first time in my PMEX life .. savor it while it lasts
How good is Alister in this?
My Cynthia is only 1/5
Irida 1/5
Morty gets me 500k (idk if there is better runs)
I got 550k with him
seems like to break 2M you need either godly gears (40%+ sync damage), or the best shadowball + paralysis rng to reach 7 syncs total
Unfortunately the stage doesnt favor SSRC, since enemy only syncs once. If I could get second SEUN then would probably already be 2M
and not in optimal conditions
Setup?
Or you need 5/5 cynthia?
I have her 3 so would be great to copy as close as can
5/5 doesnt do anythhng except buff the sync BP a bit.
There is no strat, jsut spam melony sing and get sync crits.
Even with 3 shadowballs you should have 6 syncs total and a good score
I did 580k. Prob can do 600k but it'd be his ceiling ig.
Yoy use shadowball to lower def?
of course
That's why your mom doesn't like you Gladion 
spdef*
This is worse than my ST Bug
This was 5 korrina syncs, got 2 para procs on sludge wave and some misses +4 attack only, EXR and sp3 could easily do 900k
just got 620k with Allister
How many Allister syncs was that
Better. SP3 and SC Steven refreshing would net better results. Will I reroll? Not sure
5 ig
5? That's 4
I'm in a bus for 12 hours now so my brain forgot maths 
Done:) easy
we had someone who had both 3/5 Cynthia and 3/5 Fall allister. That comp should be better than ncblue
It's so tempting to upgrade cynthia to 3/5 but ig it's not worth it to do it for just stupid dc
Give it a break, he scored 6m in fairy aoe
This dc sucks istg Silver has innate HE in his sludgewave
woo
So this one just sucks then?
just have Cynthia
I wish i had 3/5 Fall Allister without using candies
I must resist temptation to give Allister 2 candies to try and push for 2M
hit 1m w/ exr ss korrina first attempt
wait what
alister can hit 2m?
unless you mean the pumpkin
FALL Allister
I hit 1.75M with ncblue + Melony
F.Allister + Elio should be stronger than that comp and maybe it can hit 2M
in fact with perfect rng you could get to 2.5M, since Fall Allister is a flat x1.5 boost with 2 rebuffs
Wait, Fall Allister with NC Blue and Melony can hit 1 million?
.. Cynthia + ncblue + Melony
all the highest Ghost scores are only possible with Cynthia
cant even get 1 mil with cynthia the best i can do is 996k, since i dont have pinpoint and sing keeps missinh
so my dmg always falls short
gears?
that feels like something that can be solved with a few extra boosts from skill gear
i personally just used ghost bandana and pin, and rei's skill feather bracelet
2% critastrophe
6% ghost zone
2% phsical s moves
im so close to snapping my phone in half.....
💀
Just have 3/5+ Cynthia, 1/5 won't do it
Isn't fall allister a support?
Currently only see SSR Cynthia and SS Korrina reach 1M.
I still think NY Dawn has fair chance but others are just not gonna make it.
its the problem with not having pinpoint to sleep for me i have to try and click shafow force before sync and even at 1x speed he always syncs before me
1/5 cynthia?
As non f2p ghost units i have lunala, giratina, oricorio, and dhelmise, all at 1/5
For 1m points, the lowest investment should be 2 candies for giratina, right?
welp, skill issue 
There is barely any skill in this mode
It's a roster check
The only skill is spamming your moveskip without overspamming
Well if you have the unit to do 1M but you can't do it while others can, this part is indeed skill issue.
Do you save SEUN for syncs?
But there's no gauge for melony
Yes
No attacks till no time for another sync cycle
Red body slams and does seun, max move if mpr fails but max moves are zero-time anyway
Elio does TM and spams sing
SSRC is tm and then zone before first and third syncs
5/5 Morty or 3/5 Anni Lillie or 1/5 Renegade Cynthia or 3/5 Marshadow ?
And then you click shadow ball a lot at the end
Redlax + Elio should still easily get 1M with 3/5 Cynthia .. either missing sync crits or skill issues
but ncblue + melony would be better probably
3/5 Marshadow.
nah, if you have the time for it, do a shadow force then a shadow ball
No ncblue
shadow force hit like 80k for me
Mine is like 30k iirc
Imagine only 30k higher than f2p
👀 Do I ex role her ?
granted this was with like 8 sync buffs or smth
560k off the back of four ssrc syncs is not great going
how the hell do you do this without using sleep
literally impossible
on top of rng for tm refresh, poison and sp def drops i gotta pray for 45 accuracy to hit everytime
I wonder do ppl max Smarty Pants or not?
u knw what 996k with cynthia i might just candy her to 5/5 to do more dmg
Or retry. The damage is random within a range each time.
That last 4k ain't worth 2 candies chief


