#Damage Challenge

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still hearth
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Well I definitely did better than the rest of the times

normal parcel
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Doubt nemona could get 5m but who knows

cosmic wing
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What do you expect, it's Diantha

fluid anvil
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Nemona wont be close to 5M.
I think she wont break 4M

fallen trail
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3/5 exr redlax would be more useful than a 1/5 ex penny right

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i know penny wants that sync burst tile for more smun stacking

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fallen trail
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assuming ss gladion and ss wally

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are the other two

normal parcel
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Personally I used NC Rosa, her smun stacks are really useful for gladion

fallen trail
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hmm could be worth trying

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i’ll try a few teams playing around w ss gladion and ss wally as my cores

still hearth
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How do yall get so high points 😭

cunning rock
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Sync Rushing mostly.

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It's why you see Colress/BP Barry/Elio/Melony in DC teams.

fallen trail
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ss gladion is broken

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nah the status spamming strat actually isnt the most optimal here for once

cunning rock
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I don't have SS Gladion so I'm just going with the usual strats

fallen trail
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yeah without him the usual is better

spark mantle
fallen trail
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ss hau is someone i considered too

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gonna be more useful than ss mina cuz he gives smun

fallen trail
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1/5 colress kinda sux

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hes just giving def debuffs at that point

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who would be the best single target def+sp def debuffer

normal parcel
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I'm the only one that used Bede?

edgy hemlock
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i forgot Bede existed for a second

normal parcel
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With field exr isn't that bad

cunning rock
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I wish I had Bede WEEZing

edgy hemlock
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Help me out decide 🙏

cunning rock
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I did see someone use Summer Marnie for 1M

wise mulch
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Try using BP Barry?
U can up his move level with 4* star candy or his duplicate

fallen trail
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can anyone -6 both defenses faster than him

long silo
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Can Mina reapply Fairy Zone on demand?

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edgy hemlock
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her other field is rain

long silo
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Ohhh okay

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I guess you can just try to setup normally

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Try it in a way you do Sync with Penny > Gladion > Mina, then after Mina sync, fire off a +10 SEUN B Fleur Cannon

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Or however high you can manage for SMUN

fallen trail
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even at 1/5 a stacked smun b move from ss gladion should get you 1 mil

normal parcel
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I'm fine with 2.659m I know I can score more by fishing for the 10% miss, but I don't want to deal with that

long silo
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Actually ye

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That should be enough

copper otter
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Friendly reminder that BP Valerie can hit 1m

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Use her if you can't get 1m along with colress and Egg Sylveon

thin wren
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She has a non egg sylveon f2p 1 mil as well

copper otter
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Oh even better

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No one has use bede still?

thin wren
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bede isn't the best for this unfortunately

copper otter
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Then i'll do a run with 4/5 Bede

thin wren
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also ss glad is so much better than everyone else that he makes people try others less

copper otter
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Shame.

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I like variety

cunning rock
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I did see someone getting 1M with Summer Marnie earlier

thin wren
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it's just that nothing does even half of ss glad

long silo
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While SS Glad demolishing this DC is funny, I'm happy to see that a pure F2P clear for 1m is possible

thin wren
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never thought fairy would get 1 mil

cursive saddle
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what's the 3/5 Gladion Grid

long silo
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I've seen BP Val/Colress/Elio, as well as BP Val/BP Barry/Eggmon Sylveon

merry stratus
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ah ok thanks

thin wren
cursive saddle
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this?

long silo
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I would personally drop Brainpower

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Actually before that what team do you plan to use

cursive saddle
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Wally/Gladion/Red

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Wally isn't caked

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that's it

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Just trying to get decent damage

copper otter
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It can be done. Did max move too soon ig

cursive saddle
long silo
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Oh maximum and not just 1m?

cursive saddle
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I hope 2M

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3/5 Wally + caked gladion + caked red can get 2M right

long silo
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Should be possible

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If it were me I'd just pour all the power into B Fleur Cannon

cursive saddle
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oh ok

nova remnant
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If you can get that second b-move then yeah

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2mil should be pretty much guaranteed

long silo
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I think even one should be possible

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Maybe

cursive saddle
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so wally sync -> red sync -> fleur cannon -> gladion sync -> second fleur cannon

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can try to squeeze a second gladion sync but that's the idea

long silo
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If time allows then yes

cursive saddle
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aight ty

long silo
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Best of luck

frail fulcrum
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Is 3/5 Summer Marnie viable for this?

nova remnant
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You should Fleur cannon on the first rotation to unlock the bmove

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Before any TM too

long silo
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I read in passing that Summer Marnie was able to 1m, but I don't personally know the details

cursive saddle
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right

frail fulcrum
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Viable for 900k-1mil i mean

nova remnant
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So you don't waste any SMUN

long silo
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If you want to join the RNG hell, you can try to reset for your second Fleur Cannon missing to preserve the +3 SMUN, and use it on the second B Move TabithaHehe

nova remnant
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Add TM MPR fish on top of it

long silo
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Grid cost doesn't allow it unless +6 lol

dry whale
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I'm happy with this. Don't really have the units or the skill gear to push it further

Well technically I could but , I'm not willing to use the candies this close to anniversary.

young tartan
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Ok I have enough. This is as far as I can go

crude sandal
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Damn, skinny one up their game

long silo
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She beat Ash?

crude sandal
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Yes

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skinny did 5.6M

long silo
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Okay that's it Ranked Fairy 3v3 will definitely be Sync Only Clause

true locust
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Skinny try score more then me sadly this is not ranked🤣 . I dont have even good skill gear like she use

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5,6m i can score too need fleur miss

long silo
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Wait are you Ash

crude sandal
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No, he's Adam

long silo
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Oh AdamDialga

crude sandal
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No

long silo
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Also no?

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Oh

lusty galleon
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we call him Adam here, but his IGN is Ash, yes

long silo
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Oh lmao

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Okay ye that clears things up

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Just need to remember who's who

pallid girder
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1 day before ppl filled here with Nemona's results!

copper otter
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2*

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She is released Sunday

icy pendant
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oh dang she is a Sunday release I can procrastinate my YT Short for her kit overview then

fiery rose
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part of me wants to come back to try and hit 1m with lisia but I feel like it's just not going to happen

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maybe penny/colress will do well enough?

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ok penny did not help lmao

floral blade
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god my fairy roster is cheeks

swift pulsar
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1/5 SS Wally falls short

floral blade
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f2p + diantha 1/5

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so

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not good

pallid girder
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BP Valerie hit 1M with few different builds.

floral blade
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ic

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i'd need more powerups for that in any case

dusty solar
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annoying

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dont want to deal with valerie

fallen trail
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first attempt lol

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i luv adrenaline exr ss wally even at 1/5

crude sandal
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I've gotten all LS from the 3* deluxe cookie except HS1 SophoKEK

fallen trail
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i was still able to get 2.3mil with 1/5 exr ss wally

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  • adrenaline
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gets to the 2nd sync immediately

swift pulsar
fallen trail
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yeah its a huge difference

dry whale
swift pulsar
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If I had her I’d have scored many 1M on many stages …

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You never know who to pull on until you need them

fallen trail
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i was gonna see if 1/5 penny outscored red or not

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i’d be surprised if she did

copper otter
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ngl, NC Rosa is not really required for 1 mil.

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she's helpful ofc, but there are more accessible units that can help reach 1 mil more easily

azure hornet
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Highest I've gotten, can probably do better though

dusty ivy
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Sugoi

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Wdym

crude sandal
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copper otter
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i meant as the sole damage dealer to get 1 mil

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closest i got was 980k

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copper otter
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nonexred too

normal parcel
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I have 1/5 SS wally (not ex) but I think Bede is Better if you don't want to fish for the miss

true locust
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Im adam in game ash nick:)

pallid girder
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Weird. I think JP players like leaderboard kind of thing but no?

chilly prawn
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Did 1 test run I have penny 1/5, no bede, no intention of investing

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Any quick mods for 2 mil plus? or nah

woven fjord
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Sync order: Barry -> Wally -> Lisia

Lisia:
Lucky skill: Crit Strike 2
Both sync move power nodes
Inertia
Brawn Sync 3
TM: Super Preparation 9

swift pulsar
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Definitely can do better … I caked Wally after all

normal parcel
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What's the highest score without the 10% miss?

glossy token
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im not opposed to dropping a bp + some candies on her but

normal parcel
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Valerie can score 1m

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(not Sylveon ofc)

glossy token
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what is the rhythm do we think for this? swords dance sync on seun +2 atk, swords sance sync on seun +4 atk, etc?

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or do you just out the gate go swords dance x3

normal parcel
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Is redlax really useful for Valerie?

glossy token
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im guessing not (i would probably be doing bp valerie + bp barry + poppy for def drop on twave)

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but idk if theres some other thing im not considering

normal parcel
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Corless is better than poppy

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Screech is AOE

glossy token
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oh right this is 3v3

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not 3v1

pallid girder
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egg Sylveon is also a choice.

glossy token
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~~i dont have egg sylveon 😔 ~~

normal parcel
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Is redlax that makes no sense with Valerie

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I mean even something like melony or elio makes more sense than him

glossy token
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ik the elio/melony post got unpinned but i have been meaning to ask, are elio/melony Better than barry or is 3/5 charging infliction barry solid

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im mostly just worried about shooting myself in the foot by sticking with him

pallid girder
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glossy token
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my colress is only 2/5

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so no refresh

normal parcel
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Then use elio/melony

glossy token
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in a colress valerie barry comp hes there for screech not for twave

normal parcel
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I guess use elio

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It has +4 attack buff and better gauge

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Melony can't keep up with 2/5 corless

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Meloni works with 3/5 corless, for 2/5 just use elio

pallid girder
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Melony is the fastest but she has severe gauge issue.
Elio is just middle ground.
Colress/BP Barry are the slowest but if your team can't have other status they're the choice.

chilly prawn
normal parcel
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I mean with 3/5 corless, you can still twave when your gauge is empty

glossy token
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got it. so we use turn one as like, swords dance twave elio tm and then valerie is at +6atk and we're just on screech/sing yeah?

normal parcel
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But 2/5 definitely needs elio

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Plus elio has +4 buffs, so you can just sword dance before syncs

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Barry can't even buff attack

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Is just pointless

glossy token
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i mean

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his charging infliction is 2 bars of refresh

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but i see what you mean

normal parcel
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Elio os better

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60% recharge is more than enough

glossy token
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one more q, if im down to 2 guaranteed super powered 3 cookies is valerie worth using one on? or is a diff ls a better call

normal parcel
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40% of the times you save time

normal parcel
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Valerie has bad sync multiplier so SP3 definitely matters

glossy token
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i do not plan to summon for nemona, and only in looking at my options for this dc did i realize my only fairy striker is og valerie and if i wanted to exr penny

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so uh

woven fjord
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Maybe get BP Valerie?

normal parcel
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I mean for an unit that has like 200% multiplier the jump from 220 to 230% isn't that big, but for something with like 80% the jump from 100 to 110 is noticeable

glossy token
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yeah no thats what this is discussing. i didnt realize how good she was, i just picked her up and threw 2 candies for full grid unlock and am now comping the team

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double down 5 and brawn sync on -6def isnt too bad

normal parcel
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Plus is AOE sync with no soften up so cs2 won't always trigger

glossy token
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yeah, that was what i was thinking wrt super powered might be the smarter move

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its not ideal but

normal parcel
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With SP3 you get less penalty from missed crits

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And for an unit with just 80% you really want that extra 10%

glossy token
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alr, lets see how this goes

fickle hound
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normal parcel
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Someone knows what's the highest recorded score that didn't relied on the miss?

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You will only use play rough at the very end and won't do much regardless

chilly prawn
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@fickle hound jeeez refreshing it to 10 up lol..

glossy token
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yeah the play rough tiles were just cheapest path to the tiles i wanted i believe

chilly prawn
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not sure if I want to bother with that kind of luck

glossy token
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so ty for the redirect i appreciate it

thick stump
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ok so i have no penny and no ss wally, what’s my gameplan here (and whats the ideal ss gladion grid)

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i have redlax nc blue melony barry etc etc

normal parcel
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Do you have Bede and NC Rosa? (I used that)

thick stump
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nope lol

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my fairy roster is cooked

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literally only ss gladion + egg sylv and ss hau for zone

fickle hound
normal parcel
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If you want to do the double b move you need a spatk debuffer I think otherwise you should go for one

chilly prawn
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yeah I'm not wasting any ex roles etc on this one, too many fairy + new fairy in what 2 days?

feral hamlet
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Aw man I forgot to improve my score before it changed to this one

chilly prawn
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random question when all the different types are done does it reset everything or will the battles rotate back and you can't earn new rewards

feral hamlet
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Oh, this is the SS Gladion win button battle...

normal parcel
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I guess it will reset

glossy token
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im guessing rewards will refresh but your high score will still be saved on some level for you to compete 'against'

feral hamlet
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Yeah I think that's how it works

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Next time it comes around, you should be stronger and get a better score

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That's why I'm not too worried about not getting 500k on some of these. Especially with anni coming up

glossy token
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yeah

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ditto

normal parcel
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I feel that nemona will peak less, but will have better RNG less scores

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With gladion they scored 5m+ but I'd RNG hell I guess

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I took an hour to get MPR 2 turn 2

feral hamlet
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Fairy type is in dire shape

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Can't wait to grind for my high 200k score lol

fluid anvil
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Gladion is at 5.6M now

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even without Fleur Cannon miss you can get 4.3-4.5M
Nemona will probably struggle to get 4M at all
though Gladion needs 5/5 Penny and 3-5/5 Wally for the highest scores

normal parcel
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I have no penny and just 1/5 wally so I'm fine with 2.5m

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Glad that my 1/5 exr Bede somewhat worked

feral hamlet
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I think most average players will find this scale to be true:
100k (you don't have the featured unit)
300k (you have the featured unit 1/5)
400k (you have the featured unit 2/5)
1M (you have the featured unit 3/5)
1M+ (you have the featured units maxed out)

normal parcel
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I guess you can definitely score 1m with 1/5 SS gladion

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It depends on the featured unit, some are completely useless at 1/5 some are still serviceable

normal parcel
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I guess in 3v1 most of the times you can score at least 400k with the f2p option

pallid girder
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What's feature unit even mean here?
Like does Gordie counts as feature unit as 3v1 or not?

glossy token
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master fair i would assume

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the 'peak' of that type sort of thing

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fluid anvil
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featured unit = top 2-3 damage dealer for the type

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in DC format*

feral hamlet
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Unit of that type released in the last 16 months lol

normal parcel
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It can be even an old unit if it scored high

feral hamlet
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No Bede, no SS Wally, no SS Gladion, no Penny.
I'm cooked

glossy token
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i mean

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i have none of those

feral hamlet
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Morty was the sole exception. I was impressed when I managed to match the score in the clear sheet

pallid girder
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Then I think it's not that true I'm afraid.

normal parcel
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Is just that top dogs are getting like 4/5m

glossy token
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and you have fairy zone setters it looks like/other ways to improve mawile's dmg output

normal parcel
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If you plan to 1m I guess corless BP Valerie and elio should work

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I mean for top scores skill gears also play a role

pallid girder
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Also I think it's not really hard to break 100k even for doodoo roaster.
The sync spam strat make it easy to do 200k in average if you pick the right doodoo units.

normal parcel
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Some can squeeze like circle worth of boosts

cunning compass
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hit 520k with SS Serena, BP Valerie and Elio. is it better to have another support sync or have the kalos flag bearer? i dont egg sylv or any fairy wish stuff

pallid girder
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Flag bearer is useless if you're doing sync spam.

normal parcel
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You need to status

cunning compass
normal parcel
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You want something like corless that can aoe paralyze and AOE debuff

pallid girder
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Master passive only give boost to regular moves, so you're only boost extra 20% from 1~2 regular moves in the end.

cunning compass
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unfortunately my colress is only 1/5, think my other defense drop options are kukui and nc leaf

normal parcel
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I guess corless is fine at 1/5 with elio

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Ripple effect 9 should be in the base kit

cunning compass
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oh right

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thanks gang

normal parcel
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It will lack go viral 9 but isn't that a big of s deal, sing is single target

cunning compass
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i suppose its better to get the thunder wave first then so sing doesnt ever have the animation

pallid girder
normal parcel
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Isn't go viral the grid one?

cunning compass
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im pretty sure its go viral thats grid

glossy token
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yeah no

feral hamlet
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Diantha is general pool, right 🥲

glossy token
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he has go viral grid but ripple base

feral hamlet
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Is Mawile better? Am I gonna have to EX them?

pallid girder
normal parcel
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Go viral is nice but not a big deal

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Just paralyze the center, since it attacks more often

pallid girder
feral hamlet
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Herself lol

normal parcel
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You need AOE and guaranteed

pallid girder
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I rmb at 3/5 she sucks at that.

feral hamlet
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Lucian and the Hugh you get from this do that, right?

normal parcel
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Lucian is atk

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Bede, ss wally, or maybe even NC leaf and 3/5 NC blue can debuff sp attack

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Karen also works and she can enable elio with bite toxic chance

cloud timber
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karen is a fast setter yea

glossy token
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satisfied snarl on lillie/comfey

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its 50% not 200% from karen but you get a mild dmg addition from dazzling gleam

normal parcel
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I Guess elio is still faster with a single side poisoned than Barry is with center paralyzed

glossy token
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you can also go struggle bug w/ viola or lodge dawn

normal parcel
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Karen has -2

glossy token
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volo/togepi has snicker at 3/5, could be worth candy

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pallid girder
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Melony: 15 sec / Elio: 2x sec / Colress & BP Barry: 30 sec

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cloud timber
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dazzling gleam is quite a slow move tho

glossy token
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fair

normal parcel
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Plus single target para isn't that likely to skip

cloud timber
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yeah most runs won't

normal parcel
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If you want to fish for para I guess you can

feral hamlet
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"Stop hitting yourself" but for para?

normal parcel
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Poison with faster elio I think is more reliable

pallid girder
cloud timber
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satisfied snicker is -1 spa

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yea

normal parcel
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Karen can do it with 3 snarls

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C iris I guess is the same

glossy token
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alright. lets see how this goes

pallid girder
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I rmb someone used Mind Game CIris to help summer N to reach 1M.

normal parcel
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You may want at least l 140

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And I would get her to 5/5 4★ candies are common

glossy token
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im gonna see how it goes first before i invest more

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since this is first time using elio instead of barry

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learn the pattern/things to watch for

normal parcel
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I mean 4★ Candies aren't a big investment, and lvl 140 is the baseline I guess

glossy token
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such as immediately forgetting that elio's tm is a move gauge one lmao

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so i need way better gauge on outset than i thought

normal parcel
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Lv150 and energy expansion are the premium upgrades for bp Valerie

pallid girder
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Are your exp books low for some reason or something?

glossy token
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theyre not, but like

normal parcel
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Probably some codex blends limitations

fluid anvil
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C.Iris with Summer N reached 1M yeah on Dark 3v3
but thats not gonna work with OG Diantha, she is pretty mid by herself even after setup
I think Diantha can ONLY reach 1M with SS wally, no one else

glossy token
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id rather see the baseline and improve upon it ig

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like, if i can clear 500k im probably happy, if im near the borderline of a ticket value i can add a little more juice and go again

cloud timber
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yea ss wally is broken

normal parcel
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But probably not

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Dazzling gleam is quite slow

feral hamlet
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Sucks to not have any of the good Fairy units. This might be the peak for me

pallid girder
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Well at least it's thematically fitting considering they debuted in the same event.

glossy token
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forgot to take off troublemaker 😭

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would fast track lose time for the trade off help it would give with gauge?

pallid girder
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No you don't want any other passives that might trigger to waste your time.
Moreover Elio always works at 0 speed for me.

glossy token
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gotcha

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granted mine is 2/5 and not ex

pallid girder
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His 60% gauge is base passive so it doesn't matter.

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EX matters for 2x sync buffs tho.

feral hamlet
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Nooo! If only I improved my score from the previous one!

cloud timber
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better crit luck and gear can still 500k, downgraded gear to fairy type gear and ls to cs2

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3/5 grid

pallid girder
feral hamlet
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What's her score ceiling?

pallid girder
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Over 1M.

feral hamlet
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Sync spam?

pallid girder
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Yes, and no premium teammates btw.

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feral hamlet
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Still, it seems much easier to support physical attackers than special

glossy token
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this is bp valerie at 3/5, 2/5 elio non-ex, and 2/5 colress non-ex

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so like

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Very accessible

pallid girder
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Colress + Elio or BP Barry + egg sylv

feral hamlet
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I guess I have enough in reserve to EX her now

cloud timber
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surprised 2/5 colress is worth using in multi target

glossy token
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screech ripple effect

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esp since they use x def all

cloud timber
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oh ripple effect is innate

glossy token
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so 4 turns of -2def, i dont think anyone else can match that

pallid girder
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He's Red at home lol.

glossy token
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since i hit 429k im gonna go again to break 430

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boosting valerie to 135

cloud timber
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even as a budget option tho, i forgot screech is aoe without 3/5

glossy token
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yee

pallid girder
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Red + Elio is my staple to try first for any teams now.

feral hamlet
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Elio... I've still yet to try him. Sing spam hasn't had great results on any of these for me yet

cloud timber
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elio hardly runs into gauge issues unlike melony so he's much easier to handle and more of a parallel to bp barry

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as long as you can set another status first

glossy token
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hes definitely less consistent gauge-wise for me but

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i might just be getting unlucky

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i can live with this

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esp given how much of that i spent at 0 gauge

cloud timber
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can throw fast track 1 on him if you need

pallid girder
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Can you record video? It's really weird tbh.

glossy token
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yeah sure

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i dont have nitro (the avatar animation was gifted from a friend) so idk how big a file i can send but

cloud timber
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if you're consistently running into 0 gauge it's worth it

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fast track 2 will end up wasting more time though bc it procs more frequently and more than you'd need

glossy token
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ah

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ok

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i'll run one without to record then, i did roll for ft2 because those are the cookies i have

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sounds like its time to reset my villa again 😭

cloud timber
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the 1*s will have ft1

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i know

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im out from previous rolls lmao, only had 2*s left

cloud timber
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dang

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well you can try out ft2 first then

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if you have it already

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(sharing this vid so we can all laugh to be clear)

pallid girder
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Oh wait did you do twave > sing > twave > sing?

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no

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only when i had enough gauge

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which also i got almost 100% propelling move procs on this run now that im recording

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so clearly that was elio's issue

cloud timber
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twave isn't doing much without charging infliction

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just need to use it once

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i mean its an extra turn

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one closer to sync

pallid girder
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Never do that. Only sing. That's the way you have gauge.

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really? huh

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ok

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i'll try that then

cloud timber
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yeah twave is not helping

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usually it was the sync queue-up i would do twave sing alongside

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since thats when i had extra gauge

cloud timber
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also are you using your 1* cookies to roll for ft2 and stoic 2 and stuff

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yes, which im now learning you do sometimes specifically want ft1 not ft2 so you dont use bronzes before silvers

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i was under the impression you would just want, say, for ft to get to max asap

cloud timber
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the odds are pretty atrocious so you should just use silvers for those unless you're out of silvers

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gotcha

cloud timber
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you can use bronzes when ft1 and the other 1 skills are sufficient

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ft2 is 1.5% ft1 is 11% on 1* crunchy

copper otter
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I bet if i exred Bede, he'd get 1 mil easily

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ok

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with only using sing and not using twaves at all after initial para, ive gotten up to 449.9k

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and i missed the final play rough 😭

vapid kernel
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Damn skippingmud

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ok i couldnt figure out how to speed it up and compress it that way but

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damnit wait still not small enough

fluid anvil
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so no current pair/team will beat ss gladions 5.6M
anni is the only hope

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aha!

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ok @pallid girder @cloud timber heres the video with just sing strats

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it feels wrong not to get the second sync out before their first sync but

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oh yeah and @feral hamlet

pallid girder
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is the +3 worth it on the low sync crit chance?

cloud timber
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yes

icy pendant
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+3 crit is still 80% crit

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i see

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in that case, lets run it back!

pallid girder
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Every crit is 1.5x more dmg.

feral hamlet
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no

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this is a recording that i sped up, compressed, and reduced quality of

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to get it under 100mb

feral hamlet
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Still, it's steady which mine is not

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Well if you can get nearly 500k without crit, then maybe I should invest

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ok

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with using valerie's tm, 583k

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now that i know what to do for the video hopefully itll be faster this time

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i'll prob run one more after bc i played it safe with no sd and just hitting the play rough button but i finished with just over 2 bars of gauge so i think i had time to get the super effective boost

cloud timber
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also if you have excess gauge you actually can throw in thunder waves for the 0% passive proc and 100% accuracy since winning the accuracy check is slightly faster than failing it

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but if it ever runs you out of gauge it immediately becomes not worth it

pallid girder
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They said they did it before (use twave here and there sometimes) and they ran out of gauge, so Idt it's worth it.

cloud timber
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they said they were using it to the point they were running out of gauge

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you can use it without doing that

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but it has to be sparse

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bc that video is frequently at full gauge

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i'll go back to weaving in some twaves

cloud timber
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yea maintain doing just sing spam most of the time but at full gauge twaves are fine

torn lily
cloud timber
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sygna suit wally

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not just pb for fairy but this is a new overall pb

sacred badger
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uhhhh

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i'll lyk im going again

sacred badger
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Ohh gl then

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forgot to record lmao

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also ok i have learned that its literally just if i get a bad propelling move run it dies

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but otherwise im good

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and by bad i mean literally 0 procs after 3rd sync

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sacred badger
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Hum definitely wants ex supp tbh

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i mean yes

cloud timber
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yeah if you could afford to ex bp valerie just for this elio would be an even better investment

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but in a non-ideal case where i was aiming for 500kish

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and if im going to boost and ex one of the valeries id rather it be the one people seem to be getting results with

cloud timber
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ofc

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i was trying with my prebuilt lodge lillie but lack of sync aoe just meant i was getting nowhere

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this is my current ex roster

cloud timber
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not everything needs sync aoe to get solid results but then again not everything is lucas or ss wally lol

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yeah, lillie got me to just over 100k iirc

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which was like, fine. about where i usually land on these

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but it def wasnt ideal

cloud timber
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pure passive damage can reach 150k and og gladion comps can do 200-300k on every stage

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og gladion like with silvally?

cloud timber
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yes

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he is a woeful gap in my roster

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i have ryuki and somehow not gladion

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he knows i want him as a third haze unit

cloud timber
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yeah lodge gladion is quite nice

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og gladion is just there as a benchmark lol

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he's never really great at anything

glossy token
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ye fair

cloud timber
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but if you have a lacking roster he can be genuinely useful

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here is a decent snapshot of my scores

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with rock gladion being before i learned about twave strats lol

cloud timber
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if you have redlax you could get tons of success off running elio/redlax on everything really

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yeah, i had been using some combination of bp barry + colress, redlax, poppy, or lucian depending on what my core unit is

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i dont ever wanna do the leg up + breathtaking! refresh farming with elesa again if i can avoid it 😭

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i think those runs were both 3+ refreshes at which point i went. never again

cloud timber
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yeah it's never necessary by this point really

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i'm sure exing elio will be a solid boost to everything

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yeah, once i finish this batch of recording ill prob go finish out the champ stadium to get the rest of my tickets to get his 5 5*s

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and then come back

unborn otter
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How can I improve this? Wally doesn’t have exr. I have 1/5 penny, 3/5 exr redlax, 3/5 exr nc blue, melony

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cloud timber
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ss wally/nc blue/melony can 1.7m

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not sure how 1/5 gladion measures up, i don't have him

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1.7m is with exr tbf

unborn otter
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@sullen zephyr how did you get 1.1m with 1/5 ss gladion?

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might just sp3 on gladion unless someone tells me how to use 3/5 ss wally 1/5 exr ss gladion, and 3/5 exr redlax

cloud timber
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non-exr ss wally isn't doing less than 1.1m

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as damage dealer

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just a minor bump if anything

unborn otter
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ok can you post grids, invert?

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who spams moves in red wally gladion?

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ok i got a 619.9 w/ video

cloud timber
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dunno that team

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but yea

dense citrus
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silly me 3/5 wally trew me off and thought Gladion was 3/5

unborn otter
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i do have a strike candy

cloud timber
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i also have recording so i'll upload

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ok vid almost finished

cloud timber
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my pb is 60k higher than that and used confusion and had time to use 3 disarming voices at the end

cloud timber
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i'll fix that

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i was gonna say that or i have been wildly confused this whole time lol

cloud timber
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thinking of it as 3v1 bc i'm handling it that way but yea

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title fixed but the embed will be stuck with the typo lol

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adobe would you please just give me my file

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also now that i can share videos

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i should record the second bulu auto

cloud timber
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nice

brisk shale
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Got a fleur cannon miss pretty fast

wise mulch
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Is Melony need to be 5/5 for the sing strat?
I think my Melony only 2/5

cloud timber
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1/5

wise mulch
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Need specific sync grid to be filled?

icy pendant
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nope

cloud timber
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sing accuracy tiles and stalwart help but that's about it mostly

wise mulch
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Owh okei thanks guys xD

icy pendant
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dang can I please roll the 10% game

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ok got the 10%, immediate 1.1m improvement lol

thin wren
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did the score go over 5.5 mil yet

icy pendant
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skinny 5.6 adam 5.58

thin wren
civic island
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ssGladion ssWally synergy is just too strong

thin wren
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now that I think about it while nc nate had almost all the perfect conditions for a nuker in dc, ss glad has almost all the conditions for a regular move nuker in dc. Max rebuff, fz , easy smun, sp def drops, the strongest attack in the game

thin wren
civic island
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Ye

brisk shale
civic island
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Too bad it's huge whale territory

simple saddle
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Which is why I’m usually in it for the gems

icy pendant
thin wren
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penny main dps when

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wonder if we will ever get mun for syncs

fair mist
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can i get 1m with 1/5 ss gladion 1/5 penny and egg sylveon

thin wren
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probably

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you just need to get 10 smun on the final b move

fair mist
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bru

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1/5

thin wren
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5 should work?

fair mist
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where am i getting the other 2

thin wren
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1 smun from ss glad tm, and 4 from penny tms

fair mist
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4?

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she only has 3

thin wren
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oh wait penny only has 3 tms

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4 shouldn't be too bad

fair mist
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so do i just save glad tm and cope with +2 crit

thin wren
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Just make sure to get enemies to -6 sp def and get a few sync buffs and smun

thin wren
civic island
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thin wren
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nothing new tbh

loud cedar
brisk shale
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Maybe if they increase the damage cap

civic island
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Isnt that just visual

brisk shale
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Idk

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Lemme check

icy pendant
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nope it's an actual cap

thin wren
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one of the reasons ash won't be as good as people say imo

civic island
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So in DC is jus capped for good, damn

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Yeah I was thinking abt ash Bmove 3M strat WEEZing

cloud timber
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yea seems lame

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big limiter on jacq right from the first rotation

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average range is 575-600ish

feral hamlet
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Just sank my resources to Valerie EX so I hope to get that close

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I can't believe a BP unit outdamages a Fair champion lol

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you look like youve got much more going for your stuff overall, this is valerie at 3/5 and no ex support

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with an ex support for +2 sync buff (or colress not stuck at 2/5 so you dont need elio to sing and you can have someone else to buff/further boost valerie) you can blow this out of the water

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even just being able to use the slot i have elio in to put in a unit and give valerie her fairy theme skill would be huge tbh

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thin wren
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volo is.....

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not the best

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especially for dc

feral hamlet
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My first attempt I had Volo on the team and got a decent score I couldn't beat with any other comps until the one I had Iris/Hydreigon on

sturdy pebble
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Do I go Adrenaline or Head Start on 1/5 Wally?

thin wren
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adre

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investment on valerie turn 1, so with one sd she's at +6 and seun, then at 1 to sync use circle?

thin wren
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if you quad with wally sync you have 0 moves left to sync 2

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can even do investment on valerie investment on self then set circle

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and have him sync first

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for the +2

thin wren
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yeah

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so colress valerie volo

thin wren
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should be fine then as long he's ex

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after he syncs you maybe set circle a second time later on but

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this is also assuming @feral hamlethas colress at 3/5

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i do not

sturdy pebble
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but given how the rest of the roster looks it feels like a safe bet

icy pendant
cloud timber
sturdy pebble
feral hamlet
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I have to take Troublemaker off, huh

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you do

icy pendant
feral hamlet
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Even with many mistakes made, I still handily met my goal. That's great!

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well done!

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500 was also my goal

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but yeah given the parameters of the challenge im not surprised that the field is more open to less conventionally 'strong' units

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on the fighting weak hop stage the length of time ssa cynthia's buddy move takes made her nigh on unusable even tho shes far and away my strongest unit

sturdy pebble
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Fighting 3v1... at least that's long gone for now GeetaTired

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i had to fight tooth and nail for my 172k

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me cynthia and (checks notes) somehow, marshall

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whenever it next cycles in i'll either have focus blast marnie instead of trying to roll spdef drops from solgaleo, or we have twave/status spam as a strategy (or at least i do, idr if it was found yet but i certainly didnt know it existed)

sturdy pebble
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Oooof

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I could've gotten higher if I double candied Hop, but I just couldn't WulfricKEKW

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GOD I WISH 😭

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he is literally tied with cynthia as my fav gen 4 trainer

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but i came back after a very long hiatus bc a friend told me rika just got added

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only to learn my day 1 ride or die was not only finally added but as a FREE UNIT and i MISSED HIM

thin wren
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based rika enjoyer

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they dont have to rerun the event for anyone else but dena. dena please. let me have my boy

cloud timber
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they will rerun him but it could take some time

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i will complete the riley superfan title in record time my gender demands it

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yeah i know its only a matter of time

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but just the inherent comedy of having missed him by like. a month

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sobbing 5ever see you in 2026 when they finally rerun the event

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so yeah my fighting roster is. ssa cynthia. bea. marshall. maylene. bruno. brawly. korinna

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its Bad lmao

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one of my friends who pulled bianca didnt even try and broke 200k

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was very funny

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dont ask me how this is gonna go

feral hamlet
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Wow! Can't complain about this. I'm more than satisfied with how this turned out. No regrets fast-tracking the EXing of Valerie for this

cloud timber
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event stuff seems to rerun about once a year

copper otter
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I love how this DC has enabled big number happy trigger on everyone here.

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sturdy pebble
feral hamlet
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I mean, now I know I can use her legit on CS or other battles require it instead of Diantha because she does nearly double the damage lol

cloud timber
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volo is field/tech so not literally support

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oh hes not?

cloud timber
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but assist yes

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i couldve sworn i saw him as field/support my bad

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copper otter
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Peiple wanted him to be field/support so badly

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in that case ignore my hallucinated misinfo

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and sorry for rubbing salt in the wound there ^^;

cloud timber
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nobody remembers stuff right 100% of the time anyway

copper otter
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There's over 475 units in this game. Imagine trying to remember all of their kits

cloud timber
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yeppppp

thin wren
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Can't get Volo to work on this team. Too slow

cloud timber
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i wouldn't have known volo's ex role if i didn't just look it up right then

feral hamlet
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Technically a better score, but the previous team is much easier and more accessible to use

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I was close to one more sync, so maybe with better planning I could have made it. Then it likely would have hit 1M+

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But manually setting Fairy terrain takes him like 12 full seconds lol

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did you set circle 1 or 2 times?

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oof yeah

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thats fair

feral hamlet
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May have missed circle for one sync

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also, whats valerie's fairy theme skill at

feral hamlet
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Theme skill? I have everyone's maxed out

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i was expecting a slightly larger adjustment from that adding to her attack, fascinating

cloud timber
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with a field ex you shouldn't need to bother manually setting terrain at all, one sync should be enough

feral hamlet
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It ran out at the last 30 seconds or so

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I got greedy and wanted it up for one last sync

latent plover
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This challenge confirms burst damage > sync spam provided the damage is high enough

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I don't think any challenge before got even close to 5 million

fluid anvil
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it is yeah but only for SS Gladion. He can do it twice and its also AoE (unlike Ash's)
and even with that - he still needs full setup from SS wally and Penny. Which most types dont even have
zone, TRIPLE rebuff, SMUN stacks, SpDef debuffs etc.
all of that was required to break 5 Mil

copper otter
latent plover
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He did like 3.5 million while the rest did 2.5 million

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Even Nate was far stronger than any tech-strike nukers simply because of how broken his syncs + b move were

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icy pendant
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no unit can provide -3 rebuff themselves

glossy token
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no, but he provides guaranteed weakness rebuff doesnt he?

copper otter
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A unit can provide +3 rebuff tho

latent plover
icy pendant
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a single guaranteed weakness rebuff

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so like, larry + 5/5 penny gets you to -3 fairy

latent plover
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Fairy zone though

copper otter
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You could, but that wastes zone

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im more thinking for other types/in the future

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not for this oe

latent plover
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Wally does all that but with zone too

fluid anvil
# copper otter Halp.

2 candies to Cynthia of course (actually could have done that for 3v3 Ghost too TabithaHehe )
I mean its a no brainer
-Giratina
-Cynthia in a goth dress
-best ghost zone pair + best ghost sync nuker
-best in both 3v1 and 3v3 Ghost
..SS Hilbert-tier investment

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like, is there a setup with any combination of current units that could get near this

warped gulch
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.... yes. but i just said. im not asking because of fairy

latent plover
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and trying to think of how we might adjust for that

fluid anvil
latent plover
copper otter
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It was about 4 mil from what i remember

latent plover
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Hop has great role compression for this mode

fluid anvil
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also what were the lusamine psychic numbers again

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wasnt she also insane

copper otter
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Wow.... ss hilbert was just slightly higher

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Ss hilbert was about 3.6 mil

fluid anvil
copper otter
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Ew

latent plover
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Nate broke 4 million

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Pretty sure

fluid anvil
latent plover
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But I think Lusamine can be improved

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speak of, since i pulled redlax between the last ghost and this one: redlax for seun is preferable to shadow force cancel on cynthia right?

latent plover
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Strat wasn't optimal cause many did DPS

copper otter
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Lusamine 100% can be improved after what we learned

glossy token
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yeah i imagine so

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but the fact she was hitting such cracked numbers without the tech

latent plover
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So she probably breaks 4 million with Lana and Rosa

copper otter
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Is there a psychic terrain user who can para?

fluid anvil
latent plover
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I don't think so

glossy token
copper otter
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Damn.....

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Hmm..

latent plover
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I would love para chance on several units

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Would mean I don't need to use a dedicated paralyser

copper otter
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Wait...

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WAIT, IS DC BLUE FIELD?

glossy token
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....

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wait

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nope

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sprint

cloud timber
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sprint

copper otter
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DAMN IT

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I was about to cook

glossy token
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scrolling up so fast to have a Moment(tm)

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but yeah no no psychic field units yet

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which is weird

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bc seeing lana as strike/sprint and not strike/field when the whole point of the tapus is field

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idk

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WAIT I LIED

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THERE IS ONE

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GODDAMN

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can belelba status

latent plover
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Nope

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She flinches

fluid anvil
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oh my god its for barriers not even for psy terrain

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tragic

glossy token
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but otherwise that is v useful to know

latent plover
fluid anvil
latent plover
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So no need for speed buffs

glossy token
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my hau team was colress bp barry ssr cynthia so

latent plover
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Cynthia would need good debuffs though

glossy token
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we're uh. working on what one might call a budget lmao

fluid anvil
cloud timber
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yea i had 2.5m with ssr cynthia bp barry ss hilbert

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i'd skip redlax

latent plover
fluid anvil
latent plover
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And is it good enough to make up for the difference in rebuffs

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Since Allisters rebuffs are a 1.5 boost

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Like you'd want to shadow ball anyways to debuff

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So I'm not sure if bringing Blue is worth it over Allister

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Actually, What about Gardenia

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Summer Gardenia I mean

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Debuffs, zone, sinnoh theme skills

fluid anvil
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Fall Allister - Elio will most likely be the highest score, with perfect shadowball and crits rng
But most dont have Allister. And NC blue reduces the shadowball rng by giving you -2 debuffs

glossy token
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ok question

fluid anvil
glossy token
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would yarrdenia extend ssr cynthia's ghost zones

latent plover
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Yeah but I think even with imperfect rng Allister gonna be better

glossy token
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or is the field boost only for her own

latent plover
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Cause Blue ain't gonna be dropping by enough to compensate for the lack of theme skills and rebuffs

warped gulch
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And you maybe want to Sync with her for Field and Supp

glossy token
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sorry yeah the grid extension was what i was thinking

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like shes gonna be first sync for 2x and set zone

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and then

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yeah

latent plover
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Unless extention of course

fluid anvil
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if you are using Gardenia + Cynthia together then you are forced into either BP barry or Colress for 3-rd and they are slower

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I think it will be, in terms of comps:
F.Allister > NC Blue (with Melony) > rest

glossy token
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theres also this in yarrdenia's grid

cloud timber
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super sync 9 at home

glossy token
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is there any world where you use yarrdenia and a non-cynthia/special sync

warped gulch
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SC Irida

glossy token
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oh is she a special striker?

warped gulch
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Yes

fluid anvil
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SC Irida + Yarrdenia was basically the second best comp in ghost 3v3. But the gap between them and Cynthia was still big (4.1M vs 2.1M)

glossy token
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fascinating choice on denas part there

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but

latent plover
fluid anvil
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I have 1/5 F.Allister, really dont wanna give him 2 candies just for this 1 stage.
Will probably just stick with ncblue and wait for them to release a new ghost rebuffer

latent plover
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But yes

fluid anvil
latent plover
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I will post to see how it goes

pallid girder
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Try Elio rng with him having both def and spdef debuff via Sparkling Aria

fluid anvil
pallid girder
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I mean in a perfect world you shadow ball 2 and sparkling aria 2 and get -6 spdef and -4 def.

fluid anvil
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but why not just shadowball 3 times and the rest is pure sing spam ? will be faster

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sing spam is generally needed to get 7 syncs total

pallid girder
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Or better dc2 Elio so -6 spdef & -6 def (yes too perfect it's not gonna happen)
The way I see it, only being quicker isn't always the best option. Sometimes more turns to set up dmg or save soul from horrible rng is another option.

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What is the best bet for this round?

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I have red lax who is caked.

pallid girder
crude sandal
stoic crest
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I have plenty of candy

pallid girder
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If you're fine with 1M they don't need it.

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It you want some 2m~3m clear, 3/5 Wally + 3/5 Glad.

crude sandal
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If you want to score like the guys at 5M, then you need

  • 5/5 Penny
  • 4/5 SS Gladion
  • 3(?) or 5/5 SS Wally
stoic crest
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Oh a million is fine

icy pendant
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for 4-5m gladion only needs 3/5 but wally needs 4/5

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5/5 penny is a nonnegotiable regardless

crude sandal
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Well, 4/5 is needed to get Superduper Effective 2 for Gladion

stoic crest
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Since both are sprints

icy pendant
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pykuo's hit 4.4 with 3/5 gladion, I'm going to assume without skinny-tier gears

pallid girder
stoic crest
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Oh gladion is sprint too, so I could sync with red, Wally, than gladion?

calm anvil
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I missed the rock challenge

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Doesm't matter, I'll be vacationing in a place where PoMa is banned anyway

crude sandal
warped gulch
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This is my gears

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Pretty normal

warped gulch
crude sandal
icy pendant
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woah someone double candied ss gladion in the last 24 hours

warped gulch
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Definitely someone

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That is from my friend tho

crude sandal
icy pendant
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3 to 5

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screenshot shows 5/5, the 4.4 million clear shows 3

crude sandal
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Isn't that a bit unnecessary since, like I said, you only need 4/5 Gladion?

warped gulch
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5/5 is good

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Bc that is his favo

icy pendant
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the min distance to sde2 requires +7 only

warped gulch
crude sandal
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5/5 is only for 1 extra +3 B Move power up

warped gulch
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But 5/5 Wally definitely matter

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That +1 SMUN

crude sandal
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5/5 is definitely for Brain Gain

warped gulch
crude sandal
warped gulch
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Meanwhile i climbing it when my cookie is low

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Like really low

stoic crest
crude sandal
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CS2 if you're going for bare minimum

warped gulch
pallid girder
crude sandal
# warped gulch

At least you have deluxe cookies. Meanwhile I'm using every deluxe cookie I get to get the necessary LS for this fight WEEZing

stoic crest
sullen zephyr
unborn otter
pallid girder
vagrant ivy
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with a copious amount of missed crits

dusty solar
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im actually dumb and forgot that penny has smart command, 1m with 1/5 gladion and wally is easy

stoic crest
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Wouldn't gladion be a better second sync since he would hit all 3 and still decrease sync countdown?

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Or is better for third sync after Wally?

dusty solar
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i still do support = > wally = > b move after wally’s rebuff = > gladion sync => +3 fleur cannon

pallid girder
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After that the 3rd and 4th I both sync by Gladion bc yes more dmg on 3 opponents.

stoic crest
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I see Wally be move has fairy rebuff

dusty solar
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im not sure you can hit 1m with red, i just barely got it with penny’s -1 rebuff and +3 smup

stoic crest
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Is Penny better?

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I have her

pallid girder
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#1255888121648644197 message

stoic crest
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Oh dang

pallid girder
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In fact prettir is the first one I've heard to use Penny with 1/5 Glad and reach 1M, which is the reason why I didn't suggest her as soon as I saw you have Red.

stoic crest
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Oh that's good to know

honest tendon
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new year’s lisia clear!

teal haven
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do yall think its possible to get SSgladion past 1.6m without any non f2p supports like wally or redlax?

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I was able to hit 1.580m twice with melony and NCblue but thats all I got atm

fair mist
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uh

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well i think you would have to fish for a miss

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to save the smun from nc blue

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like debuff with fleur fail queue sing

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and like i guess use discharge if hes 3/5 for faster debuff?

wise dune
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Gladion's B move is quite impressive, even with a single shot at 1/5 BellisScience

golden tiger
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Now ik I have an easy 1 mil for 3v1 fairy too

cursive grove
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shoot for today's DC i dont have SS Wally. but i do have SS Gladion and Red. any alternatives?

crude sandal
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SS Wally is really important for SS Gladion

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Maybe you can try the F2P using BP Valerie

ivory kestrel
rain copper
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there is no reason to use Valerie when you have SS Gladion

rain copper
cursive grove
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let me check

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no my gladion isnt 3/5 :'

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but he has exr

teal haven
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Was able to hit this

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If I got a few paralysis procs and glad hit his MPr at least once 2m is possible but I don't hate myself for 3 tickets

true locust
civic island
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That's insane, well done!DahliaCheer

true locust
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Thanks if have my gears from ranked could be more😋

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But for just fun part its ok 🙂 no need push my self soo hard haha

teal haven
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Man I could be killing this game if I didn't take a 3 year break

true locust
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You can take 1 month brake and hard catch up depend if was broken units

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So 3 year or 1 month can be realy same in this game🤣

teal haven
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It was from like 3 months after launch to August 2023

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So I missed a lot of units

true locust
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Most new are broken units

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Many old this day are not soo mutch use

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But in dc we got like lussa cortney so units wat not many use any way so hard tell wat dena cooked

long silo
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Omg you did it lol

teal haven
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Yeah but I still have a 2/5 colress and my Barry wasn't 3/5 until the 5-6th DC

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I missed so many tickets

sacred badger
true locust
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No even whit best skill gear not sure if can be done?

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I think 5,8 whit max sts skill gear yes

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His last b move still is hit max 999k so not change a thing

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Only for his 1 b move add some juice

pallid girder
loud cedar
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500k improvement, barely edged the final b move

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no fleur cannon misses

thin wren
pallid girder
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I wonder how much SS Lysandre can hit w his bmove.

cloud timber
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less multiplier less smun no mp refresh

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can't be at the same standard but i'd still be curious too