Damage Challenge

[glad kraken]

and yeah, volo reaching 1m seems pretty unlikely to me

[clever wasp]

Damn

[glad kraken]

masterful metronome calling an actually effective move is like, 2 of 11 moves, dazzling gleam is just not it, his sync isn't great even with the tech exr

and even if masterful metronome calls a good move its animation takes forever

[clever wasp]

Doubt I have whats needed without giving 3/5 to someone

Besides maybe BP Valerie?

I honestly don't have crazy investment in my fairy pairs which I'd probably give to Nemona or Gladion

[icy pendant]

I think 1/5 Gladion is enough, innate soften up + b move at the end works wonders

[glad kraken]

1/5 Gladion managing is plausible

see when it releases at least

[sturdy pebble]

I would appreciate it if you did

[restive plaza]

@sturdy pebble https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009003050801&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=&v1=025500013100&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18090102&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFGhsdICEjJScq&v2=015802071902&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFDA4RFBocHiMmNDU

I put up a submission on the sheet too with a video and more notes in the description

the grids are pretty unoptimal because I was lazy. you can get all the relevant nodes without the extra energy

[pastel bone]

idk why its hard to get the 1M

shouldn't be too difficult for me but it's turning out to be

idk, I just did her with exr role today

and I got 744K

[still hearth]

Anyone have a team for the DC that contains SS Diantha?

[pastel bone]

https://youtu.be/ME4ZNjIFIlI?feature=shared

trying this but not getting the 1M

[still hearth]

Ohh wow yeah I don’t have that Rosa or Red 😭

[sturdy pebble]

Thanks dude

[pastel bone]

Yeah for some reason not happening

[thin wren]

where sync spammer

[restive plaza]

wasnt sure if i was allowed to post videos before. heres a different comp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmlk0BCYHLQ&t=3s

[pastel bone]

I did

I guess it's bc I don't have soften up

[pallid girder]

The sync spam we refer always means use unit with status move (twave, sing, etc) which is bound to fail to spam and never touch any attack move.

[pastel bone]

ohh

well I kinda gave up on that

idk I was getting 745K

but with lower defense, I was able to get 918K

[thin wren]

use elio. Reset until redlax body slam paras. Make sure that you do not click any move other than sing . (after buffing your attack with elio tm and diantha rock zone ofc, redlax handles the crit, ). Use your tm post mega for Accel (redlax handles the scholar's sync buff) .

[thin wren]

did you click anything other than sing?

[thin wren]

oh and remember to use redlax tm on diantha after every diantha sync

[crude sandal]

So, anymore prep for tomorrow?

[cunning rock]

Some are just gonna use their 3v3 Ghost comps if they have SSR Cynthia. Meanwhile, SS Korrina is gonna have a chance to shine here

[pallid girder]

Ig ppl would change team. In 3v3 they use NC Leaf or Lenora bc they need aoe debuff, but in 3v1 you don't need aoe when st debuff is fine.

[cunning rock]

And Sing spam wasn't even a thing yet during 3v3 Ghost so some adjustments are gonna happen.

[crude sandal]

You know, I just have this feeling we're gonna break our first 5M in electric 3v3

[cunning rock]

I'm wholly expecting it tbh

Ash or SST Red with NC Blue is just asking for astronomically high damage numbers

[crude sandal]

Nah, SS Hau's EXR will destroy it

[cunning rock]

Constant ET Terrain with Tech/Strike nukes

[pallid girder]

I just realize you can choose not to pick Power Plant so SS Hau won't have the "always waste time to summon field after sync" punishment.

[crude sandal]

Man, society if we had a SEUN sync spammer

[jolly violet]

2M with 0 paralyze needed

and i have record video for it

[thin wren]

I don't have that much faith in ss hau

he needs to web 4 times

[thin wren]

where's your et then

[crude sandal]

Nothing

His ET will last enough after you do your 2 support EX syncs

[thin wren]

so give up 50%?

[thin wren]

he only sets et on entry

Unless you have the grid tile

100 seconds is barely enough for half of the dc run

[pallid girder]

SST Red ig.

[crude sandal]

Then who will sync spam?

Without support EXR?

And also another problem with Hau is that you need to set up fairy zone unless you're willing to lose that too

[pallid girder]

Err SST Red + Melony is our first sing spam strategy we found.

[crude sandal]

Then I guess NC Blue is replaced here then

[cunning rock]

And lose out on the 1.5x damage from -2 electric rebuff?

[crude sandal]

Doesn't -2 rebuff = WTZ?

[pallid girder]

It depends on which give you more dmg in practice.

[crude sandal]

Well, Blue does have that +20% team sync damage, but Red also gives +24 offensive stats from theme skills

[pallid girder]

-2 rebuff but Power Plant slowing you down every time, or 0 rebuff but sync more.

[crude sandal]

And also Red also has -3 sync CD upon using his max move

And Hau has Turbo Charge

But at the same time, Blue has X Speed All+

And also has Turbo Charge along with -2 defensive stat drops upon syncing

[thin wren]

so no blue so -70%?

[thin wren]

whimsical sync is unnecessary

[crude sandal]

Fair

[thin wren]

so you give up 70% and support exr for an extra sync?

even with power plant you can get 6 syncs total in

[long silo]

I'm more than willing to 3/5 SSR Cynthia, but if I see someone able to 1m with Allister, I'll take up that chance to use him instead

[thin wren]

that extra sync is not worth the 70% loss imo

[crude sandal]

It'd be pretty funny if 3v3 electric-weak was a similar situation like this rock-weak 3v1

Imagine if Ash was the real MVP for 3v3 electric-weak

[pallid girder]

I mean it's possible it's not just 1 extra.
I'll wait for ppl smarter than me to find out the best comp lol.

[crude sandal]

Because he doesn't require much set up like Hau does

Similar to how Gordie nukes harder than Diantha, but Diantha scores more because of less set up

And Ash still has his B Move with him

To make it feel like another sync nuke

[pallid girder]

Imo Gordie needs burn already disqualify his chance being top 1 tho.

[crude sandal]

Well, apparently, having too much multipliers but with more set up is worse than having less multipliers but easier set up

Was there ever a case that more multipliers with more set up is better than less multipliers with less set up?

[thin wren]

it should be 1 extra. Tried without power plant once and barely got in 7 syncs

with good para luck

3 syncs will be required to make up for the 70%

[thin wren]

We don't actually know who will be better between the two

it's been a common point of debate

[crude sandal]

Well, let's see if history will repeat itself

[thin wren]

diantha is more so a case of having wtz in built. Btw diantha does sync harder accounting for her wtz

[crude sandal]

She's barely behind Gordie after mega

[thin wren]

I think diantha gordie case is not similar to hau Ash case

[thin wren]

does gordie have inate rock zone?

[crude sandal]

No

[thin wren]

diantha edged ahead cuz inate rock zone

[crude sandal]

But he has higher multipliers

[thin wren]

hau has inate e terrain

[thin wren]

wtz inate + good multipliers is better than a few more multipliers

hau has more multipliers and inate wtz

[crude sandal]

But has significantly slower set up

[thin wren]

it's not significantly slower

[pallid girder]

I just checked but it seems SS Diantha always outdamaging Gordie after her first sync?

[crude sandal]

3 uses of his B Move

[thin wren]

So it's a case that's very different from gordie case

[thin wren]

exactly

comparing gordie and diantha to Ash and hau situation is not the best

gordie only has like 50% more mult btw

which gets covered by diantha 1.5x rock zone

[crude sandal]

Hmmm, how many syncs can you get in if Hau has all of his multipliers gridded?

Like Whimsical Sync 5

[thin wren]

no whimsical sync 5

that's a pure time waste and not worth it

I tested it before and without whimsical the total syncs are 6(maybe 7 if you para everytime)

[crude sandal]

Para every time?

[crude sandal]

I'm assuming NC Blue/Melony

[pallid girder]

I calculated BOTH under rock zone, so Gordie always lose to Diantha after she mega.
He can only win with first sync.

[thin wren]

I got 2 paras

[thin wren]

why? you shouldn't as that's not practical for dc

[crude sandal]

What's the team with Hau?

[pallid girder]

Well before this dc truly happen, some ppl DID speculate that using Gordie + SS Dian but Gordie sync can get higher score than SS Dian herself.

[civic island]

Gordie got higher sync, the difference is just because of zone

They can def work together but if you have 3/5 ssDiantha you can run para+spam eensuring more syncs

[thin wren]

Chase hau and melony but I did not click his tm to emulate nc blue. I was also only 4 moves away from sync 7 in my original testing

[crude sandal]

If you have 5/5 Diantha and Melony with Adrenaline, then you can guarantee get 10 sync buffs

Or if you get para proc, then you're guaranteed 10 syncs anyway

[jolly violet]

https://youtu.be/dJ4KVt5JCRM

[thin wren]

Either way, hau Ash case is different from Melony Gordie

here the higher sync damage also has the wtz

[crude sandal]

Did Hau use 3 of his B Move?

[thin wren]

4

[thin wren]

do you have soften up on?

[crude sandal]

Why 4?

[jolly violet]

nope

[crude sandal]

Doesn't the B Move do -2 speed per use?

Unless the enemy has X Speed All

[thin wren]

guess what tm the enemy uses...

[crude sandal]

Ah

[thin wren]

in aoe elec

[thin wren]

so not picking soften up seems to be one of the things for 2 mil

[thin wren]

at least that's what I heard

I haven't checked the enemy tm thing myself in a while

[crude sandal]

And Hau has Power Plant right?

In his grid

[thin wren]

yeh

[crude sandal]

And also, doesn't Chase slow down the fight quite a bit at the beginning because of his passive?

[thin wren]

I even went the extra mile of clicking circle to emulate blue discharge time and rebuff

[thin wren]

yes, that's something that the optimal blue comp won't have as well

[crude sandal]

If Chase is the one to paralyze for Melony to sync spam, then you'll be really slowed down

[thin wren]

Ah, I used chase because I don't have nc blue

[jolly violet]

having soften up require 2 paralyze for 2M

[thin wren]

Nc blue will definitely be optimal and get in at least 6 total syncs

[crude sandal]

Have you tried using Initial Propulsion and Adrenaline to not rely on para?

Because I've almost gotten 10 sync buffs without para proc

[thin wren]

doesn't that give up multipliers if you wanna run soften up? Building for soften up seems bad imo

[thin wren]

score?

[thin wren]

soften up on grid is not worth the pickup

[crude sandal]

My name is at the top 10

[crude sandal]

Something like this is the grid
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15802/71902?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFCAwOERQWHiMmNDU&x=true

[jolly violet]

this is the grid that I use to get 2M with soften up

[crude sandal]

Actually, my score is thanks to para proc

And gotten 10 sync buffs because of it

[jolly violet]

by using 2 rock tomb so no multipliers go short

but need 2 paralyzes to gain back time

[crude sandal]

Try what I said

Initial Propulsion in exchange for Soften Up and Adrenaline on Melony

[thin wren]

We don't know the details of the optimal strat unless skinny reveals it but I don't think soften up is gonna be there

[crude sandal]

SP3 is obvious, most likely just have godlike skill gear rolls

[thin wren]

Ik skinny is the gear goddess. I am more interested in the grid

[pallid girder]

The hardcore player is like: just crit every sync w/o Soften Up, easy right?

[thin wren]

I mean, it's the optimal strat

[crude sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[thin wren]

if you want the highest scores

soften up is not something that boosts damage or speed

it only reduces rng which you can do yourself by resetting

[crude sandal]

Something like this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15802/71902?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFDA4RFBYZGh4jJjQ1&x=true

[thin wren]

as long as it's not a 0% it could happen a 100% of the time

[jolly violet]

I think the problem is better gears and insane luck

[thin wren]

Probably

[crude sandal]

It'd be surprising if skinny somehow gridded Tough Cookie in exchange for something like Lithic Acceleration

[thin wren]

what gears do ya all have btw

[jolly violet]

My best score is 2M1 and I don't think of anyway to get more than that

[crude sandal]

Anyone want to ping skinny?

JK

[thin wren]

K

@skin-

[sacred badger]

Just ask lulz

Theyll come for you later

[crude sandal]

So, what's y'all's teams for tomorrw?

[lethal siren]

I have very less cookies
Wht should I do

Sp3 to gladion, adernaline 1 to Wally or adrenaline 1 to redlax

[pallid girder]

CS2 is fine on Gladion since he has Soften Up

[sacred badger]

Penny / colress / BP Valerie

[civic island]

Trying a bunch of stuff w NY lisia

But of course the stage got xDef all

More time lost on debuff

[thin wren]

ss glad , chase and melony

[thin wren]

oh

oof

[sacred silo]

can someone help me out my highest has only been 330k and from seeing other clears I feel like I can get higher

[rain copper]

do you have 3/5 EX Gordie or SS Diantha?

Redlax too

because NC Silver is bad at handling single stage

[sacred silo]

don't have him unfortunately

am I losing dmg by screeching 3x?

[thin wren]

no gordie?

[sacred silo]

no ex on him and I don't have the resources to get it

the only rock attacker I've invested in is Silver at this point

[pallid girder]

I think no ex Gordie would still score better.

[rain copper]

yeah

[sacred silo]

I could try it

what's the best grid for it?

and should I switch up my supports

[pallid girder]

NC Silver do have 1M clear but it's with EXR UElio + SC Steven

[sacred silo]

yeah I don't have either of those lol

[pallid girder]

Check the pins. There're a lot of different comps you can try.

[sacred silo]

alright tysm

[pallid girder]

Wow currently the doc doesn't have any SS Diantha clear is quite funny.

[sacred silo]

:/

[crude sandal]

Is Gordie first target?

[sacred silo]

no but he gets burn and +6 spd before his first sync

[crude sandal]

What about -6 speed for the enemy?

[sacred silo]

yeah

I did a screechless run as well and it was even worse

[pallid girder]

No Red?

[sacred silo]

unfortunately no

[crude sandal]

I saw Pykuo made a F2P clear with Sonia/Gordie/Melony(?)

[rain copper]

that seems low for non EX Gordie

did you watch and follow the video proof?

[sacred silo]

no

[rain copper]

then do it

[sacred silo]

alr

could I get a link to it I couldn't seem to find it 😅

[crude sandal]

Not sure if this is correct, but here's one example
https://youtu.be/CzlNJ520hAc?si=JXM3zKx3hebiMxry

[golden tiger]

This is headache lmao 50000 pts more

[crude sandal]

No NC Blue?

[golden tiger]

Nope

I lack sync orbs too

So maxing energy isnt an option rn

[crude sandal]

Don't tell me you used them for extra grid energy

[golden tiger]

Not for this one but like

[pallid girder]

900k/1.5=600k.
500~600k is non ex Gordie should at least reach.

[golden tiger]

Past challenges yes

[golden tiger]

ye nvm 4 syncs with diantha is already mad lucky

either para proc or evasiveness from nc rosa

so 950k is fine

without those i only get 3

[pallid girder]

Sync with Rosa and Bmove to get Sing back really eats too much time.

[long silo]

Only really worth in Fighting/Psychic DC

[crude sandal]

3v3 fire-weak is next week

[sacred badger]

Its the week before 5th anni ;o

[cunning rock]

Silver in sync rush teams means he can sync under his own sun

[long silo]

I will make an attempt with Ethan

[crude sandal]

Silver will need 1 TM MPR for full set up and much more if you plan to nuke him with SEUN

[long silo]

(It will not go well)

[crude sandal]

Hildini will probably be the best one next week

[long silo]

For my actual attempt I will use Mix Blue

[cunning rock]

At least Silver doesn't require Burn, just Speed and Sun for his multipliers.

[warped gulch]

He also buffs himself evasion

[crude sandal]

To Scorching Sync or not to Scorching Sync on her?

[cunning rock]

He'll pull a NC Marnie and be the tank

[sacred badger]

i have so many to choose from.

[crude sandal]

But is Scorching Sync worth it since it slows your timer

[pallid girder]

Silver only need speed = NC Blue + Melony again?

[crude sandal]

Well, he also needs SEUN

[cunning rock]

So Redlax + Elio

[pallid girder]

That team only has +1 speed.

[cunning rock]

Dang, Silver's TM has SEUN

[pallid girder]

Just get MPR from his TM more times

[crude sandal]

Tell me, is Scorching Sync worth for SS Hilda?

[cunning rock]

People ran Burn for Gordie so I'd think it's still worth. You can run a Sing spammer with the burn

[cloud timber]

^

[crude sandal]

So you mean NC Leaf/SS Hilda/Melony?

But gauges

[pallid girder]

If you have gauge issue just use Elio.

[cunning rock]

NC Leaf DEFINITELY needs Support cake for her to be worth running

[crude sandal]

Well, that team needs 4/5 SS Hilda like this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/403/49400?s=4&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFBwwPEhMWFxodICE1&x=true

[pallid girder]

I think NC Leaf is a must in top score. 2 rebuff + sun + support exr is just too good.

[crude sandal]

And also sun extension

[cunning rock]

She'll probably be the best for ST Fire

[long silo]

So Elio + NC Leaf + DPS

[crude sandal]

And also AoE rebuff with defensive stat drops

[cunning rock]

The downside is that one of her Sun charges is locked behind her B move

[long silo]

Could do B move right before the DPS first sync

That said if the DPS is mix blue it is a non issue

[crude sandal]

This will be the cycle:
Elio/Melony -> SS Hilda -> NC Leaf -> SS Hilda

[long silo]

But for others I think that works

[cunning rock]

Sync with Elio > Sync with Leaf (especially if you gridded her for Sun-On-Sync + Support EXR) > DPS

[long silo]

Actually wait B Move is what triggers burn right

[crude sandal]

On who?

[cunning rock]

On Hilda, it's on Searing Shot. NC Leaf's B Move only has 10% Burn

[crude sandal]

If it's Leaf, then it's a 10% chance for burn. 50% chance for burn with HE4 gridded

SS Hilda has a 15% AoE chance with Searing Shot. 60% with HE3 gridded

[long silo]

Oh ye it's for Leaf

[warped gulch]

Reset for 3 targets burn

[cunning rock]

It'd be a waste to use Leaf's B Move for the Burn setup because it's locked on T1 plus you're forced to spend your Sun charge

[long silo]

So ye this will be RNG

[crude sandal]

Need 4/5

Otherwise suffer at 15% chance

[warped gulch]

Imagine dealing with that and Sync crit

[long silo]

Fun times

[crude sandal]

And she doesn't have Soften Up too

[cunning rock]

Imma try Variety Lucas if he can hit 1M on 3v3.

[warped gulch]

Yeah i will stuck with no burn

[crude sandal]

How will you sync spam then?

[warped gulch]

15% burn on 1 targer

Is better than 60% burn on 3 target

[crude sandal]

Are you going to use NC Leaf to burn?

[warped gulch]

Idk yet

[icy scroll]

I am so glad Gordie scored this much.

Roark did very less damage last time!

I know Gordie did 1 million already but I'm to lazy to grind again!

It took me thousands of tries to get +2Atk from NC Rosa, I won't be doing that again!
This is very good score considering all of my other scores!

[warped gulch]

But without sure crit i’ll not run burn Sync one

[safe prawn]

Imma try a fire power run with penny/sswally/ssgladion
Just 4 fun

[cunning rock]

Roark? You didn't have Olivia built during 3v3 Rock?

[long silo]

Good enough

[safe prawn]

But it might be better to give up penny for bpbarry

[icy scroll]

Nope

[pallid girder]

You should grid Gordie's TM MPR...

[icy scroll]

And I didn't know Gordie could do that well, back then!

[warped gulch]

I’ll use Red instead of Penny

Triple Sprint

[pallid girder]

That's better for your mental health.

[safe prawn]

But but penny has mind games

[cunning rock]

Gordie needed SC Steven for his 1M run in 3v3

[safe prawn]

And a couple stacks for b move

[warped gulch]

Just pray for Wally

Red has Sync CD from Tm and ofc, SEUN

[cloud timber]

should just run redlax/elio with gordie

[icy scroll]

Yeah someone showed it to me later!

[cloud timber]

i managed 900k with that and there's a 1m clear video

[crude sandal]

Oh wait, you can sync spam with NC Leaf/Melony/SS Hilda. NC Leaf has Catalytic Acceleration

[cloud timber]

no tm mpr needed

[safe prawn]

You don’t want me to use my fully invested penny

[warped gulch]

Yep, throw your 5/5 Penny

[cunning rock]

If Penny is 5/5 then she's kinda worth it because -2 Fairy Rebuff is basically Fairy Zone

[safe prawn]

That’s what I wanna do, double rebuff fairy zone and super syncer

[warped gulch]

Not triple ? ~~for 10% dmg increase ~~

[safe prawn]

Oh right wally’s B move

[cunning rock]

Or you can use Penny as your DPS if you have her strike EXR

[warped gulch]

Tomorrow we’ll reset for Gladion miss

[cunning rock]

Plus Penny has Brainpower as her multiplier so she's actually decent

[safe prawn]

I have exr on penny

[crude sandal]

I think I'm just gonna stick with this team
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009900040700&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggTGhseISQ&v1=011901080100&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFERQXGBobJyksLS8&v2=012801028202&s2=5&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13016403&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFCQoLDA0PFxgdHyApKzU

[safe prawn]

[slender venture]

Then you look at the spatk stat

[cunning rock]

5/5 EXR Penny + SS Wally + BP Barry =

Also Penny nuking with -3 Fairy Rebuff under Fairy Zone is gonna be hilarious

[slender venture]

I honestly think if you let Wally sync there it would be more damage

[cunning rock]

Or you can run SS Mina instead then BP Barry > SS Mina > Penny nukes

[warped gulch]

the grid

This will be my team for tomorrow

[pallid girder]

No one pick speedster sync 3 lol

[crude sandal]

Is Super Syncer really not worth?

[warped gulch]

I use Red

[crude sandal]

Then who sync spams?

[cloud timber]

super syncer is just 1 seun anyway

[warped gulch]

I dont

That why i need triple sprint for that team

Gladion’s Sync isn’t that strong anyway

[long silo]

I think I will be crazy and actually try Ethan on Fire 3v3

I do look forward to Gladion showcases tomorrow tho

[pallid girder]

I mean it's not that crazy tho. He got sync multiplier and self sufficiency upon expansion.

[thin wren]

I will go chase, ss glad and Barry

[crude sandal]

Oh yeah, doesn't SS Wally have Gobsmack in his passives?

[thin wren]

50%

[crude sandal]

Yeah

[thin wren]

You only attack with him once

imo ss Wally will be optimal ss glad partner

[crude sandal]

He is

Because Wally does -8 Sp. Atk. for him, and both of them have Sp. Atk. drop multipliers

[pallid girder]

Unless it's Fairy 3v1 and SS Wally is your main dd, so you need to trigger it every time before you sync.

[thin wren]

-4 special attack means you just need to use 1 fluer. You need to use 2 for the 2 b moves anyways but you can miss 1 fluer

[fluid anvil]

ss gladion - ss wally is not gonna get many syncs. not even 6 syncs total probably

and only 1 Supp EX (Barry ?)

[crude sandal]

Well, it's made up for the massive damage they deal

[thin wren]

tbf you don't need many for ss glad

[crude sandal]

And sprint EXR they have

[thin wren]

I think 6 syncs total is easily doable

[crude sandal]

Now, it's only a question of buffing Wally's stats or not

[thin wren]

Wally sync basically gives another sync

[thin wren]

not worth

having 1 more ss glad sync so you have 7 sync buffs for ss glad sync is better

[pallid girder]

Ig yes bc his sync gonna deal dmg too for your score

[rose basalt]

you dont really need fairy debuff and fairy zone im thinking since its triple

[normal parcel]

It has 30% team sync multiplier in circle, but not that great by himself, however it can be a decent fairy zone setter, and circle is nice however even if it can status 23% of doing so (10% paralysis) you have to use the slowest move in the game to do so

[crude sandal]

TBF, you can save Gladion's B Move after you're done syncing with Wally at the end

Wally's sync is significantly stronger than Gladion's

[normal parcel]

I think that maybe it can be optimal to keep syncing with wally if you have him invested and sync with gladion only second last sync (if exr) or last sync if not, so you can use something like NC Rosa to help getting +10 and super syncer to land full power b move

[crude sandal]

How can you use NC Rosa when no one will do status?

[normal parcel]

I think sing spam is still workable in sigle target

Not as fast as statused sing spam, but without charging infliction it should be similar speed compared to stun spore spam

You have to see sing animations, but the opponent won't attack as often

If you give Rosa pinpoint entry 2, with 2 tm uses she will have 100% sleep

[crude sandal]

Also, if Gladion isn't going to sync for damage, is it worth to grid Superduper Effective 2?

[crude sandal]

Pinpoint Entry or Troublemaker?

[normal parcel]

Never troublemaker in dc

[crude sandal]

I'm guessing because it slows you down

[normal parcel]

Yes troublemaker is slow

[crude sandal]

Anyways. Here's my sync cycle:
BP Barry -> SS Wally -> SS Gladion -> SS Wally (until the end)

[normal parcel]

She can get 65% base accuracy sing, with +2 from tm and +2 from pinpoint will be 100% accuracy

[thin wren]

@fluid anvil so I used chase to emulate ss wally because I don't have ss Wally. Ik Chase is gonna lower the countdown more but I got in 6 syncs with 1 para. I can take a screenshot if you want (Just take my number of sync buffs -2 as my Barry and chase are exed)

[thin wren]

Why ss wally sync after ss glad?

[thin wren]

I did 2 fluers and 2 b fluers

[crude sandal]

Because Wally is my main nuker

Significantly stronger than Gladion's sync even with 3 targets

[thin wren]

wouldn't it be better to sync with ss glad after 2 ss wally sync?

[normal parcel]

I think gladion nuke X3 is still better, but you may want to save super sync for last b move

[crude sandal]

I'm saving Gladion's SEUN after he syncs

[thin wren]

oh no b move refresh?

how many syncs does that get in?

[crude sandal]

I do have it, but...

[thin wren]

Imo super syncer ain't worth it

won't super duper effective 2 give more since it's boosting all b moves?

[normal parcel]

B move refresh may work with SS wally, since you can delay gladion sync

[thin wren]

yeh

should be 475k on the first b move with 4 sync buffs

[normal parcel]

But you can't get two +10 ones

[crude sandal]

I might need TM MPR

For Gladion

[crude sandal]

It requires 7 extra energy for the grid I'm using

[thin wren]

unfortunately ss glad b move requires the mon to use a move

7....?

[crude sandal]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11901/80100?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFBgcICw4RFBUYGycpLC0&x=true

[normal parcel]

I mean you can get a +10 one if you want but the 1st one should probably be +2 or something

Problem is that you need to rely on NC Rosa sleep lock

[thin wren]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11901/80100?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFERQXGhsfIigrLC0&x=true

This one looks funny unfortunately+10e

[warped gulch]

Ko one is useless

[thin wren]

Oh right

[normal parcel]

Without MPR Rosa can give +6 and gladion should get +4

[thin wren]

Oh ya all planning on going rosa?

how many syncs area planned?

[normal parcel]

If you can fish for gladion and Rosa MPR, I guess 1st one can be +4

[crude sandal]

Me personally, I'm gonna use this for Gladion
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11901/80100?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFERQVGBseHyIlJyksLQ&x=true

[jolly violet]

1 KO will achive infinite Point

[thin wren]

Ko enemies in dc when

[normal parcel]

I'm going Rosa but I can't sync with wally cuz mine is only 1/5

[crude sandal]

Give them 10M HP and we're square

[thin wren]

imagine if the dc stage was fightable as a regular stage

I was thinking about Chase ss glad barry

could chase ss glad and ss wally do something actually?

[normal parcel]

Why Barry with chase?

[thin wren]

oh oops

accidentally said barry

*melony

[normal parcel]

I think NC Rosa is more valuable because you really want those smun stacks

[thin wren]

chase ss glad melony hopefully gets me 1.5 mil

[crude sandal]

Oh, I almost forgot that if you want to retain Gladion's SEUN without wasting it on regular Fleur Cannon, the regular Fleur Cannon must miss

[normal parcel]

However chase can give them

[thin wren]

Chase is so much faster tho so you can get in 1 final sync with ss glad to b move a final time

[thin wren]

the price of soften up

[jolly violet]

reset for miss

[thin wren]

reset for miss

[normal parcel]

Yes I mean chase + rosa

[cunning rock]

Remind me why Chase is good here, I don't have him. Support/Sprint + Evasion is what I know

[crude sandal]

Doesn't Gladion innately have Soften Up?

Oh I get what you mean

Actually no

[normal parcel]

It has critical sync I think

[thin wren]

I was talking about it being the additional rng price of him having base soften up

it's soften up

missing second fluer also means that your b move will have 3 smun minimum

[normal parcel]

I know for sure that it can get 100% crit on sync

[jolly violet]

still better than Barry burn RNG

[thin wren]

what's the gameplan with the rosa comp?

[crude sandal]

Does the enemy have X Evasion All or smth.?

[thin wren]

there's wally 50% reset if gobsmack happens and 10% to make sure that ss glad misses

[thin wren]

x defence all

physical fairies will take longer to ramp

[normal parcel]

X evasion all can be interesting for gladion itself, but bad for wally

[crude sandal]

1st use of Fleur Cannon can hit. 2nd use should miss

[normal parcel]

Wally b move is one of the few 1use b moves without guaranteed hit

[thin wren]

is the plan with rosa comp
ss glad fluer>wally buffs>rosa sync>b move > rosa sing>fz>wally> b move>wally>fz if needed (?) ss glad b move> ss glad sync>fluer miss>rosa tm >final giga b move

with 7-8 smun and seun

[normal parcel]

I'll go for 1 b fleur route because I don't have 3/5 SS wally that can delay gladion sync

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, do I sacrifice Fairy Zone Extension for Fairy Wish: Brain Gain?

[thin wren]

I might try this but will Chase instead of wally since I don't have him so I must use ss glad sync earlier

[thin wren]

probably not

just get special attack off rosa b move

[crude sandal]

Nah, I'm gonna use a sync spammer like BP Barry

[normal parcel]

Unless I use something silly like Bede, maybe with sing strats his confusion multiplier is manageable (but I don't want to roll for pinpoint 2 on Rosa)

[thin wren]

@crude sandal how much smun should I give ss glad

[normal parcel]

I feel that the most you can get the better is

[pallid girder]

W/o other status shouldn't Sing miss better?

[normal parcel]

You either want sing to miss always or hit always

Expecially if you are dealing with confusion

[crude sandal]

Not sure

Prolly 4 or 5

[thin wren]

first tm smun tile gives you smun on x speed all and on my soul is shaking so +3

oh it's 7 smun my bad

[crude sandal]

I'd save the 2 uses of X Speed+ after missing the 2nd Fleur Cannon

[thin wren]

2 uses of x speed all+?

you only should use x speed+ once

[crude sandal]

Gladion's X Speed+

[thin wren]

accidentally typed all

[normal parcel]

Ah wait is fairy 3v3 connecting sing isn't really viable (even with go viral I guess)

[thin wren]

his tile only triggers smun on first use of a tm

[crude sandal]

It also counts towards his grid that gives him SpMUN stacks when using a TM

[normal parcel]

Non statused sing spam is only viable in 3v1 I think

Maybe with go viral, but you can't keep the opponent sleep locked

[thin wren]

only on first time

so no need to use more than 1 x speed+

5 smun ss glad b move with the comp you are planning to use

[crude sandal]

No it's not

It's infinite

[normal parcel]

I think they used Rosa sing spam in AOE dragon

[thin wren]

oh, then I go 6 smun?

[crude sandal]

Yes? If that's what you calced

[thin wren]

I calced 5 smun

[normal parcel]

Technically you can fish for x speed MPR too but you can only get it with 1st 2 uses (if your support buffed less than 3 speed

However x speed is only +1 with the passive

[thin wren]

@crude sandal this is my understanding. Setup ss wally, ss glad fluer 1, bp barry para>ss glad tm, ss wally setup, bp barry starts spamming> sync bp barry>Bp barry spam> fz>Wally sync> wally b move> spam> wally move again>ss glad b move> fluer miss> spam> glad sync> x speed all twice, tm if it mpred and there's time? > b move

[normal parcel]

Wondering if chase + melony/Rosa is better than 1/5 SS wally

[thin wren]

I can test that for you tmrw

will tmrw be the first time we will be resetting for a miss?

[jolly violet]

I reset for miss sing since yesterday

[thin wren]

oof

ready to reset again tomorrow?

what moves does the stage have?

[jolly violet]

90 acc gonna be a pain

[thin wren]

It's gonna be deep into the run as well

your first fluer also must not miss

so that's more rng

[teal harness]

best I got with diantha was 685k, the 2nd min is awful and I only sync 3 or 4 times in the last min

[normal parcel]

90% accuracy when you need to hit is 50% when you need to miss, becomes 99%

I Can't really afford 2 b move

[jolly violet]

I will try both 1 and 2 b move

[normal parcel]

Yes but without invested wally I can't really do 2 moves

Plus I don't want to touch the 10% miss fish with a 10 ft pole

I can fish for 10% miss 1st move, not halfway

[thin wren]

2 b move gives a ton of value because of the smun and damage from the first one

[calm anvil]

Eh... best ones?

[fair mist]

gordie if you dont have ss diantha

[calm anvil]

And I don't have SS Diantha

[normal parcel]

Yes but to get the smun you have to fish for 10% miss, and that's horrible

[copper otter]

Gordie can 1 mil but he needs to be exed

[wanton thicket]

For this DC, should I be using 1/5 Diantha, 1/5 NC Silver, or 3/5 Paulo to sync?

[copper otter]

Neither. If you have Gordie, use him instead

3/5 exed preferably

[wanton thicket]

I've literally never used him and haven't bothered to EX him yet...

[copper otter]

He will be the only one able to 1 mil for you at this time if 3/5

None of the options you have can at rheir current move level

Paulo can't even do great damage as he's more of an enabler than dder

[thin wren]

still value technically

[calm anvil]

eh alright

I'll see what ai can do

[crude sandal]

Now that I think about it, I should remove Interference Sync from Wally

Also, a little big brain strat I've thought of with Wally, but you can use his Discombobulate to make your enemies miss their attacks for faster syncs

[copper otter]

Curious on who will do more damage overall, nemona or Gladion tbh.

On one hand, SS Gladion will be like NC Silver, but iirc, nemona has a bonker sync

[thin wren]

her sync isn't Nate level bonker

[copper otter]

Rip ss gladion still winning. Skip lmao

[thin wren]

she also has a few anims that she has to sit through and she runs out of power in 100 seconds

[thin wren]

might have been better imo if she had mpr or extension on her fields

Unless she's 4/5 or 5/5, you run out of more than half her multipliers in 100 seconds

[copper otter]

Thanks DeNa for making new units with bonker damage but way too long animations to use it.

[thin wren]

why no sunny day mpr dena .....

[vernal condor]

Because they had to sell you sync burst

[thin wren]

at least place it in a good location and make it low energy. You are either
Forced to leave one of uer damage tiles for it
You actually have to give up a sync tile for it unless she's 4/5

[vernal condor]

Nah yknow what

[crude sandal]

NY Lisia has the slight upper hand

Because of Super Sync 9

[vernal condor]

It's to better sell you the anni unit with universal circle extension

[thin wren]

koraidon real

[thin wren]

I think ny lisia will be better than nemona

[cunning rock]

Because technically infinite Sun + Paldea Circle is OP?

Idk

[thin wren]

no

[normal parcel]

On paper, yes, but I don't want to make my life miserable trying to fish a 10% miss late in the battle, plus I don't have invested wally so I don't think double b move is even an option for me to being with

[crude sandal]

Doesn't she have Sync Burst?

[thin wren]

It's only once

[thin wren]

fair

[thin wren]

only 1 mpr ain't very good

[crude sandal]

Doesn't sync spam give you like 2 syncs under weather without extension?

[normal parcel]

Ss gladion finisher however is really strong

However ny Lisia still has a not too shabby giga impact

[thin wren]

still it's a limited window of power for her

[copper otter]

It was moreso a comparison on the MF units than meta.

[normal parcel]

Nemona sync should be stronger, but gladion b move is stronger, but I don't know if they can sync the same amount of times and if nemona can spam b move

A strong finisher is always valuable

[crude sandal]

NY Lisia is stronger than Nemona thanks to Super Sync 9

[normal parcel]

However ny lisia has 80% crit no circle and giga impact is single target

[copper otter]

Again, we are not looking at nylisia. We know she is stronger, but this is in regards to people who would want to pull nemona for DC

[thin wren]

pretty sure her b move anim is looooong so she can't spam it

[thin wren]

simply crit.

[crude sandal]

Ok

[thin wren]

who tf pulls for dc

[copper otter]

You'd be surprised

There are people who pull for a variety of reasons. Some you wouldn't think of.

[normal parcel]

Are we sure ny Lisa is the best (potential) option ?

[copper otter]

Also literally adasada pulled ss diantha for DC

[normal parcel]

I guess some pulled Greta just for battle rally

[copper otter]

I mean, what else you got for striker units? You got jigglypuff, Palserena and paldawn, uhhh SS Gladion, and...... um.....

[cunning rock]

BP Valerie is accessible to everyone

[copper otter]

Wait the pal units aren't even tech lmao

BP valerie needs a lot of setup

[fair mist]

wdym

[normal parcel]

I mean the battle for the best will definitely be between gladion, lisia and nemona

[fair mist]

serena and dawn are techs but dawn is really just a support in disguise

[copper otter]

I meant striker gdi

[fair mist]

oh

[cunning rock]

Better than Mina or base Valerie. Not to mention, Swords Dance gives her SEUN.

[fair mist]

then yeah

lolol

[copper otter]

Brain went faster than typing

[copper otter]

[thin wren]

pretty sure his rock was actual garbage before diantha

[fair mist]

tbh mina sucks to set up

[cunning rock]

Also Summer Lyra has a sync multiplier for Sleep

[copper otter]

I expect BP valerie to hit 500k at best

[fair mist]

isnt it double pecking order with only charm and has to copy enemy stats

[normal parcel]

What setup? she just has brawn sync and doble down

[copper otter]

Imagine sleeping a paraed unit

[thin wren]

penny

[normal parcel]

Summer lyra has the most nonsensical kit of all the game

Tm that heals when asleep (but doesn't have rest) sync that puts opponent to sleep after doing damage, but sync multiplier that wants them already sleeping

No sing

[cunning rock]

Diantha would have a rough time, slow setup and her only sync multipliers are Sp. Atk drop and Double Down

[normal parcel]

I think they where pretty high when they designed her kit

[crude sandal]

SS Wally practically fixes fairy DDs with Devastation

[normal parcel]

But back then she was the best fairy regardless because the only alternatives where grid less Valerie and mina

[cunning rock]

Yeah, and then Anni Lillie came along and she was unironically good for Ghost/Fairy despite lacking multipliers

[normal parcel]

Too bad because I really like Jigglypuff, and Summer lyra outfit is really nice, but her kit is just nonsensical conflicting garbage

[copper otter]

She needs to SD 3 times unless you have another support use her TM twice unless you have another support, and then you need to debuff def for max damage potential for all three. For f2p, you would need colress but the only better option to fufill bp valerie's need faster is Hilbert at 3/5 so you don't waste turns on TM.

Maybe i'm just overthinking it and it could be good, idk.

[cunning rock]

The good news is that she's probably gonna be a "F2P" unit by September from the new Daily Scout system

[copper otter]

Good luck of that dropping on dailies

[thin wren]

give her a break, she released before the game was even a year old iirc

[vernal condor]

Summer Lyra needs a way to put herself to sleep

[copper otter]

Gi e summer lyra a SCGuzma treatment where she forces herself to sleep from a sync grid passive.

[thin wren]

doesn't Hilbert+ colress get her fully set up?

[normal parcel]

Older units are still better, including Steven, Xmas siebold and Rosanta

[thin wren]

is she even better than bp val....

[vernal condor]

No lol

[cunning rock]

Her only sync multiplier is tied to sleeping targets

[normal parcel]

Not sure she's better than og Valerie

[thin wren]

it explains some badness of her kit at least

[vernal condor]

She was the 1st strike fairy, they had to make her terrible to powercreep her later

[thin wren]

I feel bad for jigglypunk

her event was nice

[cunning rock]

BP Val at least has Double Down and Brawn Sync, Brawn Sync just needing Attack is very easy

[hushed epoch]

i enter this channel to see the best comp for my run but the first thing i saw is how dare you disrespecting lyrapuff!!

[normal parcel]

1st strike fairy was Valerie, but she's quite terrible

[thin wren]

How many sync mults does she have

[thin wren]

is it disrespect if it's the truth....

[hushed epoch]

no

i mean you are wrong

shes villa monster

[cunning rock]

This is my planned grid

[thin wren]

only 80% huh

[cunning rock]

Villa is dead now tho

[thin wren]

if only villa existed

[normal parcel]

Maybe if they give her an extension and she gets proper sync multipliers like brainpower and super powered 9

[misty forge]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15700/30300?s=5&l=140&r=4&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFBgkKCw4RFBcYGycpLC4v

I'd use this no?

[cunning rock]

Oooh, I appreciate this!

[warped gulch]

This, bc +10 Atk

[true locust]

Why you need play rough not 2 atack for sync?

[rare apex]

i cant wait to somehow end up with 4/5 summer lyra a year from now

[cunning rock]

i cant wait to somehow end up with 2/5 cynthia a year from now

[pastel bone]

hm

ss diantha, redlax, and melony

keep getting 714K range

[cunning rock]

You can swap out Melony for Elio. SS Diantha only needs to use Rock Tomb once because Redlax and Elio can give her the remaining +4 attack and +2 crit for her.

[pastel bone]

yeah idk if this'll work

it's either 64k-74k range

if only I had soften up

maybe defense drop would be higher

[pastel bone]

yeah idk, the best i got was 918K

[pallid girder]

In general Redlax and Melony isn't the best together bc the gauge.

[snow raptor]

Oh gosh, what am i gonna do with that xD

[unborn otter]

Lodge steven got 700k?

Or 500k

[pastel bone]

I used redlax and colress

[frail owl]

5/5 bruno

[vernal condor]

2/5 steven ig, or 3 maybe

[normal parcel]

Definitely can get more than 700k with chase

[vocal prairie]

Gordie became the star of this one

[normal parcel]

The highest score I think is SS diantha, but Gordie is accessible

[proud minnow]

Yea, Gordie shines a lot in this one

My 1.25M score with him, SC Steven and Melony is somehow enough to be in top 300 🙃

[cursive linden]

What's the best team for NY Lisia?

[true locust]

Gordie can do 1,7-,1,8m

Diantha 2m+

[pallid girder]

I think most ppl just don't want to try anymore when they pass 1M.

[pastel bone]

Finally

[still hearth]

If only I had Redlax

[narrow oriole]

I'm trying this challenge with SS Diantha, BP Barry, and SS Steven, but I can't get much higher than 300,000.
Is there anyone on my roster I could replace Steven with? His B-move's animation is too long, and he can't give Diantha Atk or Crit, so she has to use Rock Tomb three times.

[icy pendant]

use Gordie instead of Diantha probably

sure you lose EX but you gain actual multipliers

[glossy token]

i generally think of ice as my weakest type bc rock is just suffering for pairs overall, but this dc has taught me otherwise. is my best move here to throw orbs and levels as grant for double down 2 + weather sync up (with sun for minimal lost speed) + cakewalk if i dont think theres a speed-efficient way to get the flinch multiplier, or roark for double down 5 + haymaker?

i tried a sand team and didnt even break 50k. humiliating lmao

[icy pendant]

weirdly I think yes Grant is the better play than Kukui due to no innate

[glossy token]

yeah, kukui was the sand i tried bc he has leer to get to berserk 2 +6 super fast

[glad kraken]

i'm honestly not sure

[glossy token]

but it was just such paltry damage and i lost so much time to the sand

[glad kraken]

Grant has way worse set up and a lower attacking stat, but more multipliers

[icy pendant]

this could also just be DPS race strength

[glossy token]

i technically have enough tickets to pick up nemona, regirock, or bp olivia if they would be worth here given the lineup but i was trying to wait as long as possible to cash those in for both anni + insurance if i truly need one

[glad kraken]

like, Grant needs full offensive babysitting, a weather setter, full speed drops, and flinch for his nuke

[glossy token]

i have bp barry as my paraspammer so i would probably bring gordie for max move to set sun and speed help (tho he cant help with buffing grants stats at all)

[glad kraken]

i dont think that would work

[glossy token]

fair

should i just take my 50k and move rock higher in my priority list

[icy pendant]

Kukui also just kinda does all his multiplier setup himself

[glossy token]

rip to the days when olivia was the s tier lol

[glad kraken]

barry's critical buffing is slow and Grant would have 0 in the way of attack buffs

I think Kukui is just better for you right now

[icy pendant]

even though he is without an innate

[glossy token]

i mean kukui is cakewalk only that isnt sand, no native - thats still worth?

i trust yall

if you think so i'll rig that up

im just surprised

[glad kraken]

sand blaster is only 50%, you can probably work without it

you're not gonna be getting a particularly great score, but i think thats your best shot

[icy pendant]

and if you need it, Acerola is right there

[glossy token]

i have exr redlax for sync 1 to be no damage but 2x buff + sprint so

exr redlax bp barry kukui it is

[icy pendant]

something like this probably as a core for Kukui

crit infliction might not be needed tho?

[glad kraken]

with redlax, probably not

[glossy token]

yeah his sync cant crit anyway right?

[glad kraken]

it can

[icy pendant]

it can just at a reduced rate from regular attacks

[glossy token]

ah

[glad kraken]

at +3 critical rate you get 80% chance with most sync moves

[glossy token]

gotcha

[glad kraken]

some characters just have guaranteed crits built in, others have a passive called Soften Up which makes it so you get boosted crit rates for your sync moves

[glossy token]

i do know that much

selene and bea are the ones i think of in that regard

in the sync move crit builds

but i thought it was contingent on like, the move itself that the sync was

so til!

[glad kraken]

nah, its just a sync thing

a few have boosted critical rates innately as well, Cyrus and Sidney are the ones i know of

[glossy token]

right cyrus yeah

alright dont think i can fit in his other +atk tile but

also is there a particular optimal max move timing or is it just use the mp and when you run out gmax replenish

[glad kraken]

pretty much just use it to MP Refresh i think, you can use Max Moves to delay queues normally but i dont think that comes into major effect here

[glossy token]

alr cool, tysm!

oh also: is ex kukui worth it overall?

[glad kraken]

it is an extra 50% power on his sync move. If you find yourself using him often, then its not a bad idea for him

if its just for a rock damage challenge event, i'd probably hold off

[glossy token]

i tend to use him for csmm bc leer, barrier break, self buff, etc

but i also dont really use him as a damaging sync per se

so that aspect would be just for dmg challenge

[glad kraken]

ftr barriers are ignored by Critical Hits anyway, so you don't really need to break them

[glossy token]

true

[glad kraken]

i'd probably hold off on the EX in your situation anyway

[glossy token]

im not a 15k-er i aim for 8k to get the rewards i care about but yeah

alr, much appreciated

[fallen trail]

what’s ss gladion’s most optimal team for this

[thick stump]

probably melony ss blue lol

[fallen trail]

i have him 3/5 exr and also have most of his common teammates

[thick stump]

not ss blue

nc blue

too many blues

maybe penny or wally could slot in for zone/rebuff respectively

[fallen trail]

i have penny ss wally ss mina ss hau

[thick stump]

then you'd probably go to bp barry instead of melony

i could see wally/gladion/barry or penny/gladion/barry

then again teams'll for sure be posted once reset rolls over so you can always copy them

[fallen trail]

adrenaline 1 ss wally with sprint exr 😍

quick -4 sp atk to all enemies for gladion’s multipliers

[thick stump]

true!

[pallid girder]

-6 spatk at 3/5

[fallen trail]

im only 1/5 sad

but i am exr

gladion can handle the rest i guess

he needs to attack to activate his b move anyways and you probably want to use it twice

[pallid girder]

Ppl are aiming for missing it lol.

[fallen trail]

in concept it is faster lol

in practice it will devour your gauge i feel

[thick stump]

not if you use your fmn from tm

[lapis yarrow]

So who are the suspects for the new DC tomorrow?

[fallen trail]

ss gladion

and ss nemona who drops during the dc (curious!)

volo might also help just to stack pmun/smun and set circle and zone w sync but dont use his b move it takes 10000 years

his innate passive “circle: team s move ^ 3” is pretty good

[copper otter]

Best team will easily be colress/ss wally/NYLisia

[fluid anvil]

this has 0 supp ex though

[copper otter]

Don't need it.

Ss wally can rush sync so fast that it will easily be a support sync

Plus NY lisia is guaranteed SEUN each sync, so you will easily make up the difference

[fallen trail]

mmmm i am skeptical

[copper otter]

Why? Ss wally gives aoe rebuff + zone

[fallen trail]

lisia is the odd ball here

[copper otter]

How is she the oddball?

[fallen trail]

i think gladion is just better

[copper otter]

She literally gains seun each sync.

[fallen trail]

especially with his monster b move

which he can use twice

[fallen trail]

so can summer n

he wasnt the best unit for dark

[copper otter]

That's because his sync multiplier was accuracy drops which is very strict

[fallen trail]

not really

he only needs -1 accuracy

and he has a tile on his grid which gives it on entry

his better multiplier is devastation

[copper otter]

Also summer N did get 1 mil so.

[fallen trail]

i know

i got 1 mil with summer n lol

he still wasnt the best

you claimed ny lisia was the best

[copper otter]

Did you not read the reply?

They said and I quote:
What is the best team for NY lisia?

[fallen trail]

oh bruh

[copper otter]

[fallen trail]

you started implying she would be better than gladion

[copper otter]

When did i ever say ss gladion?

[safe prawn]

-6

Hello it’s discourage 2

[fallen trail]

i only got him 1/5

so rip

[safe prawn]

Penny?

[fallen trail]

my penny also 1/5

got a whole slew of 1/5 fairy utility units

i do have ss mina 3/5 but she is a defensive unit i don’t think she’s the key here

[glossy token]

@mortal flare @icy pendant ty for the guidance!!

may not be anywhere near what most of yall are pulling in but

so far my best is ssr cynthia just shy of 600k on ghost so breaking 100k is :D

now its just debating if i can make a second 300 before tierno's fighting so i can have marnie focus blast spdef debuff AND bluekazam or if i should pull her now and wait on bluekazam bc its not like i dont have bp barry + lucian if all else fails...

[glad kraken]

if it's a score you're happy with, that's the most important thing. Nice one

[glossy token]

given the paucity of what im working with roster-wise and attempting to save my tickets for the units like lenora post-anni (hence not trying to pull more for gordie, but also just in general) 100k works for me :)

we'll see how that changes once i join the elite class of 'having a neochamp in my roster' dfhjkgdfh

[pallid girder]

You can use Galar tickets right now bc no new Galer genpool would be added in anni.

[glossy token]

i dont have any/enough, just 5*

i have 200ish 5* so i could chance it but

[sweet grail]

Really late but

Anyone with ss diantha grid?

@safe prawn

[vernal condor]

as usual

[sweet grail]

Where?

I checked the pins

[vernal condor]

there's a doc

[sweet grail]

Nothing answers my question directly XD

[vernal condor]

get a grid from someone's clear

[copper otter]

Oh no.

Ny Lisia will be the most concerning unit to use actually.

Imagine your run is amazing, all your syncs crit, and you have enough to queue a giga impact...... but then you realize...

You can miss.

[vernal condor]

nah that's actually fine

"Increases the user’s Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by zero to three ranks at random." is the real problem

[copper otter]

A seun giga impact is fine?

[vernal condor]

oops! giga impact at +0 pmun

[copper otter]

Lmao

[sweet grail]

Epic

[sweet grail]

Rip soften up 1 lol

[sweet grail]

Hah

[safe prawn]

You can skip soften up but I will not be accountable for all the rafa’d incoming

[sweet grail]

I willl

Respect that

Thx bicio ur epic

[safe prawn]

Now go ahead and snipe me bc I’m not caking Diantha, hoarding stuff for next hse

I used gordie lmao

[pallid girder]

Yes next hse seriously need cakes if you don't have all the limited units.

[glossy token]

(what's next hse/which are the cake units in question?)

presumably ground by what people are saying in #poma-lounge but

[sweet grail]

Still

[copper otter]

Ground/dragon

[sweet grail]

Isn't debuffing it better?

Like

[copper otter]

Also #1128052735967764621

[sweet grail]

I don't see anything too big

[safe prawn]

Did not want to deal with rock wish animation and stuff like that, got 1.4 mln with gordie and went away with that since there’s lg to farm

[copper otter]

i have yet to touch lg

kh3 is stealing my time

[safe prawn]

Not a particular unit but I’m hoarding daily tickets/rally vouchers for when it comes so I can plan the units and fully invest in them

Also just caked sslyra with field cake coins from daily rotations so it’s gonna take a while lol

Thx Dena for not releasing any pokefair with field ex role

[safe prawn]

Well

I mean

It’s a good steal

[copper otter]

Critical mode too but i digress

[pallid girder]

I need more support + field (doesn't matter which is exr)!
It's insane I still only have 1 when all other combo I have at more than 3.

[safe prawn]

I gave a supp cake to Yarrdenia and she surpsingly hits like a truck lmao

[vernal condor]

don't worry they'll release one next update
yknow, when you'll pull on anni pairs instead of poke fairs

[sweet grail]

Damn

Skinny got 2 mil

Insane

I must be doing something wrong lol

No mattee

Got 1.2 mil and dipped

[sturdy pebble]

do you WANT me to use Anni Lillie on Ghost weak

[pallid girder]

I mean Morty reached 1M in 3v3 and he's in genpool...

[sturdy pebble]

I think people just like seeing numbers go up

Or are afraid of not being able to reach that 1 mil

[vernal condor]

@merry nymph can you remove my pin about melony pls
i think people that care know about it now, and it kinda hides the important pins

ty

[merry nymph]

[vernal condor]

give pin perms to guide writers now

aka message perms ik it's the same but we can be trusted

[azure vine]

Is dc blue meta spdef support for dc? I mean he does have thunder wave and he can lower sp def

I can’t really think of another good sp def debuffer for dc

Theres poppy but eh

I don’t have her

[pallid girder]

He can't spam himself so he needs another spammer.

For ST spdef drop I've seen ppl used SS Brendan, and he seems a better choice bc support/sprint + can paralyze too + only 3 turns.

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[icy pendant]

nah you go ss diantha there

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

sc steven available or nah?

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

yeah I saw that but sc steven is a tech not a support

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

I'd start with redlax melony and grab trip twice with diantha's grid

or honestly, that team probably wants elio over melony

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[pallid girder]

Melony has severe gauge issue, and I don't think SS Dian's guage accelerate a little under rock zone can save that.

You need a proper speed support for Melony; otherwise you use Elio.

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[thin wren]

ya all ready for ss glad miss fishing simulator?

[icy pendant]

does gladion want to fire off 2 b moves or just 1?

[thin wren]

2 is getting a good bit more value but it requires you to miss your second fluer that you need to activate the b move

going 2 b move allows for your last b move to have 3 smun

[dense scarab]

Grid accuracy though

[icy pendant]

no you WANT fleur cannon to miss

[dense scarab]

Why?

[icy pendant]

faster

[dense scarab]

DC just zoom simulator

[icy pendant]

correct!

why do mediocre damage with a move when you could get halfway to a sync?

is this a bp barry ss wally duo, I feel like it is

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[icy pendant]

I would think optimal is 2 rock tombs since the enemy has x speed all and you have trip wire 2 triggering twice, defense drop from red definitely isn't worth the effort

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

yeah entry + 2 tomb does all that you need, redlax will give you the spdef for scholar's sync

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

oh elio tm maxes attack do not click diantha b move

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

you have clicked diantha's b move before right? it takes ages

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[icy pendant]

it's 50% more damage at max defense drops

[jolly violet]

It only worth if you're lucky with paralize

[icy pendant]

which involves spending a MINUTE clicking B move aka 2-3 syncs

[jolly violet]

2-3 paralyze for the cost of 1 B-move

[icy pendant]

3 might be right actually, 2 feels low for sure

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

tm should be fine once mega

it's a longish animation but should be shorter than 3 sings from elio

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

diantha gets the third sync at earliest though?

[rotund sierra]

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[icy pendant]

so you can delay that spdef raise a long time

[jolly violet]

Melony has +2 spdef from Max guard too

[icy pendant]

also redlax has a free mini potion at the start

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[jolly violet]

Oh Okay

[icy pendant]

yeah redlax melony ss diantha has negative gauge

[jolly violet]

No def buff is actually a good thing for SS Diantha TM

Less text, save time

[thin wren]

pretty sure his b move aoe does more damage than any aoe sync

[icy pendant]

the b move yes, the regular move no

[thin wren]

I posted a weird plan earlier for SS Wally ss glad havers to get a 1.6 mil b move

wanna see?

[icy pendant]

for sure

1.6 is like 540k on all targets? damn

[thin wren]

wait how do you search for messages on a thread

[icy pendant]

it's so bad because it'll search across all the help threads

[thin wren]

one minute

[icy pendant]

this damage distribution?

woah you really are a damage challenge fan aren't you, you have so many messages in mostly this thread lol

[thin wren]

@icy pendant this is something that I think could work. Setup ss wally, ss glad fluer 1, bp barry para>ss glad tm, ss wally setup, bp barry starts spamming> sync bp barry>Bp barry spam> fz>Wally sync> wally b move> spam> wally move again>ss glad b move> fluer miss> spam> glad sync> x speed all twice, tm if it mpred and there's time? > b move

unfortunately I can't test it myself because I don't have ss wally yet (I can't wait for Anni select

[icy pendant]

think you're missing wally sprint exr but yeah

your sync cd is basically 3 after wally sync

[thin wren]

You still need to click spore 3 times so I called it spam

Wally having so much accel is the only reason I think this idea can work despite the longer animations

[icy pendant]

yeah wally with sprint exr syncs and your countdown is at least at 4

adrenaline would get you down to 3

[thin wren]

Wally sync iirc is stronger than aoe ss glad sync

5 sync boosts, 5 smun(6 if tm mpred and you have time) and seun from super syncer

[icy pendant]

yeah probably, gladion still needs 1 sync to reload

[thin wren]

I find dc very intersting

[thin wren]

my plan has one ss glad sync at the end to reload and get seun

[icy pendant]

I think I'd pop it second to last so you can still use sprint ex tbh

[thin wren]

I highly doubt sync 7 is possible in this comp but ss glad b move damage alone should get 2 mil

[thin wren]

hmmmm fair