Damage Challenge

[clever wasp]

Got a video for them by any chance?

[crude sandal]

nao or skinny

[feral hamlet]

I figured I'd work the defense drop angle on Diantha and the speed drop on Gordie. But it's too little to matter apparently.

Melony has been the most overrated suggestion. I just don't get it. A move gauge anchor and doesn't do any better what the once-heralded Barry or Colress did

[jolly violet]

Melony spam faster

[random cedar]

Can do 1M ig

I forgot to give her SEUN on the last sync

[feral hamlet]

at the cost of gauge?

[left vine]

Colress/Barry can execute a sync in 30 seconds

Melony can do it in 15

[left vine]

Yes she'll require speed, but it's very much worth doing

[pallid girder]

Melony NEEDS someone with team +6 spe or constant gauge acceleration field/passive.

[jolly violet]

gauge is why we use her in select team and not spam her on every DC

[pallid girder]

NC Rosa or Elio is the middle ground.
Elio is impossible to run out gauge but still a little faster than Colress/Barry.
NC Rosa just buffs team spe herself.

[long silo]

This is especially great on Ranked DC

[left vine]

I haven't used Elio before, why is he not as good as Melony?

In DC

[long silo]

His passive costs a little more time, but still faster than Barry/Colress

[feral hamlet]

doesn't this all count on Sing not actually landing?

[long silo]

You need another source of status

That's why NC Blue/Chase + Melony is popular

There are even SST Red + Melony comp

[cunning rock]

The upside is that Elio has less gauge issues but yeah at the cost of time

[feral hamlet]

Two whole units to do what one used to do?

[long silo]

NC Blue/Chase + Melony offers 4 sync buffs

[cunning rock]

But if you can get one or two syncs in than Colress/BP Barry then it's worth running

[left vine]

Oh right the passives

[long silo]

And lets the DPS do similar number of syncs (or more)

[cloud timber]

sing is always faster than charging infliction stun spore

[long silo]

Imagine Barry comp doing 5 sync total

[cloud timber]

regardless of whether it wins the accuracy check or not

[long silo]

Blue/Melony grants 7/8

[pallid girder]

Propelling Move 5. It lets him impossible to run out gauge but eats a good amount of time.
He generally uses 2x secs to reach another sync.

[left vine]

Gotcha

[cloud timber]

yea easy to get below 20 seconds to a sync with melony

[clever wasp]

Whoevers got 3/5 no exr diantha

[clever wasp]

Wish they had discovered that earlier 😅

[pallid girder]

The second unit ppl are using often contributes to dmg boost too, so it's not really a total dead spot.

[long silo]

Field Cake offers no offensive stat buff so you can just use Rock Zone right before 1st and 3rd sync

[feral hamlet]

Yeah, but like NC Blue + Melony. So you fire off one DIscharge and then he just sits there the whole battle?

[pallid girder]

NC Blue has Team S-Moves Power ↑ 2 and -2 omni def after sync.

[left vine]

He also does X Speed All

And TM if they need the Sp Atk or Crit

But yes

It's not really any different from Barry spam

In terms of execution

Spam and sync, that's it

[long silo]

It just allows people more options

[pallid girder]

Chase is also a common choice bc he has special circle.

[long silo]

Especially with ranked dc being a thing

[crude sandal]

This makes me realize for fighting weak 3v3

[long silo]

I'm waiting for that

It's too long a wait

[crude sandal]

You can use SSA Cynthia for Numbing Blow to trigger para, then use NC Rosa for Sing spam

[long silo]

Let me unleash the beast there ( )

[feral hamlet]

I guess I could retry the SS Diantha run later then. But I don't think I'm getting 1M on it regardless

[cloud timber]

if you have to use ssa cynthia you can use aaron as your spammer and not need to deal with accuracy check

or numbing blow rng

[crude sandal]

Numbling Blow is 50/50

[pallid girder]

NC Rosa has rebuff so it's her appealing

[clever wasp]

I'm wondering if the next revolutionary DC sync pair will come for anniversary

[long silo]

Early on in the DC when I stilll don't know any of the good strats, I somehow got Rei to 1m in 3v1. So I've been waiting for Fighting 3v3 lol

[cunning rock]

Watch NC Hop hit 1M anyway, especially when you Support Cake him

[clever wasp]

We got chances with the Anni pairs and the bp pairs

[long silo]

He can easily crack 2m lol

[crude sandal]

Rei can potentially reach 4M

[cunning rock]

Let's just see if the strategy changes since Sing spam wasn't a thing for 1v3 Fighting. But NC Bianca is the better enabler for him since you're just focusing down one unit

[clever wasp]

Least whenever we get 3v3 fighting I'll have hop to go with rei

[long silo]

Lots of potential comps for him

SSA Cynthia/Aaron
NC Bianca/Colress
NC Rosa/NC Blue

Among others

[pallid girder]

How? Sync dmg is not his strength, and his bmove is time consuming even with the guranteed flinch feedback.

[cunning rock]

I have Rei but he's 1/5 for me so I'm not expecting much.

F2Ps have Riley and Bea tho

[clever wasp]

I do think Bianca Rei and Hop could annihilate anything

[crude sandal]

Why would even use his B Move every sync?

[cunning rock]

If you're using Rei for main damage, NC Rosa could be better since AoE Fighting rebuff

[long silo]

I think I practiced once with Rei, but I did B Move spam

[cunning rock]

Probably, it's a guaranteed Flinch. It might be a time save

[long silo]

With Rosa and NC Blue, I could potentially do 5 syncs and 5 B Move

[crude sandal]

I might use it only once

Unless it's at the very end

[cunning rock]

You definitely want to sync NC Rosa so you can B Relic Song for the AoE rebuff

And then shift back to Psychic

[long silo]

If you are doing Sync Spam then yes only B Move at the end

[crude sandal]

No, B Move once

After one of your support syncs

[cunning rock]

Sing spam > Sync (shift to Fighting) > B Move > Sing spam

[long silo]

Oh I guess it's for def drop

Will definitely try both tho

Sync rush and B Move spam

[cunning rock]

At least Rei is VERY consistent since innate Soften Up

[long silo]

Lol yes

[crude sandal]

He also has an innate tech-like multiplier due to being base sprint

[cunning rock]

Not to mention, his TM has SEUN plus his B Move is guaranteed flinch + -2 defense

He's gonna DESTROY 3v3 Fighting

2M or even 3M feels realistic tbh

[pallid girder]

But his sync multiplier in grid is low. Only Brawn Sync 5.

[long silo]

Haymaker too

[cunning rock]

He has innate Inertia

[pallid girder]

No Haymaker unless I'm blind.

[long silo]

One of us is blind

And that is me

[long silo]

I mistook this for Haymaker

[pallid girder]

3M seems more legit, but someone said Rei is gonna do 4M.

[cunning rock]

Hmm... NC Rosa, SSA Cynthia, Rei could work. SSA Cynthia needs to be 3/5 for paralyze so Sing spam can be possible. You can spend some turns NC Rosa TM to give speed for gauge management and so you can amp Rei's B Move via PMUN stacks.

NC Rosa > SSA Cynthia > Rei sync order so Rei has rebuff and Fighting Zone for his first nuke

[long silo]

Ye I don't think he can crack 4M

But if I was able to make him reach 1m on 3v1 then 3m is very reasonable

[jolly violet]

Can C.Bianca perform well in 3v3 fighting DC

She has 2 multiplier + 1 from her special cookie

[long silo]

She should. Bianca + Rosa + Colress is devastating

[cloud timber]

i just don't get wanting to use ssa cynthia when she can only set fighting zone on sync and it doesn't extend

[cunning rock]

Bianca + Rosa + Redlax could work just as well

[lapis yarrow]

How does one get Melony to sync under 20 seconds?

[cloud timber]

have some other status up + have gauge + spam sing

that's it

[cunning rock]

NC Bianca also helps with gauge because party speed when she attacks

Also evasion rolling

[pallid girder]

Yes all teams reach 4M have WTZ that can cover the entire battle.

[unborn vault]

Does lodge Steven cut it?

[nova remnant]

He needs rock DF for his innate

And that costs time, so no I don't think so

[cloud timber]

there's a 713k screenshot with chase and melony

so he does that

at minimum

and 523k with elio/redlax

[unborn vault]

I did that too

But I guess he doesn't reach 1M huh

Suppose I'll use gordie without stoutland

[cloud timber]

yeah never seemed to be of that caliber

[crude sandal]

I hate my phone

Sometimes after I flinch Barry, he can queue in Facade. Sometimes I can queue in Sing before he does Facade

[pallid girder]

That happen to me a lot too but sleep. I don't think it's phone issue tho?

[jolly violet]

the only time I can queue sleep in between flinch is when Barry also has confuse

Barry did not get confuse in my 2M run so it should not be something to focus on

[crude sandal]

I really hate my phone so much. Before, Barry isn't queueing Facade before I can use my Sing. Now, the game decides to wear off flinch fast enough for Barry to queue Facade before my Sing

[vagrant ivy]

how’s this

[unborn vault]

Nemona?

[vagrant ivy]

yes

if I invest into her she can get 1m

but it’s just a dc so meh

[pallid girder]

If you lack rock zone, ex her isn't a bad idea tho.

[fiery rose]

I despise this DC.

[clever wasp]

One sync short no matter what i do

Gauge drops to 0 near the end of this

[fluid anvil]

wait I didnt even think of that. Rosa has sing and Cynthia has paralysis. So you can have sing spam + fighting rebuff + some fighting zone uptime too
and Cynthia has brawling acceleration too + Rei is very fast, so no gauge issues. This is nice

[crude sandal]

You have to avoid Gobsmack, but I should be easy to grid either way

[vernal condor]

Yeah I did that with SC Diantha in ranked

Didnt really go well

[crude sandal]

SC Diantha's nuke is hard to set up, so it's understandable

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/DwY-xjVIrQk

But Cynthia sets up both defenses instantly and Rosa raises Speed

[cunning rock]

Also Rei gives a free move to everyone every time he syncs so Rosa gets a gauge less Sing

[pallid girder]

In exchange of a slight time loss every sync tho.

[crude sandal]

Now, time to test my team for 3v1 fire-weak

[fiery rose]

Less time loss than running out of gauge.

[fluid anvil]

its probably worth to use Reis b-move once as soon as both supports sync (=4 sync buffs) - to get the -2 AoE Def debuff in for the rest of the fight
And then maybe do it again after 5 sync buffs, for -4 def?
After that you only do syncs and then squeeze in another b-move at the very end of the timer, if possible

[fluid anvil]

https://streamable.com/pnjwm5
you never run out of gauge with Rei. Just his +6 speed is already enough for infinite 1-bar spam
just replace Aaron with Rosa on this team

[cunning rock]

Variety Lucas with NC Blue (to complete his buffs) + NC Rosa (because Lucas wants burn)

[fiery rose]

Oh gods I thought ST Rock was gonna be the grimmest thing this week

We have fething AoE Fairy

Another week of no 1mils

[thin wren]

hlo

[sullen zephyr]

bp valerie:

[lapis yarrow]

Are these ok gears or no?

[fiery rose]

Given how this stuff's gone in the past and how slow her setup is, she'll probably suffer

[sullen zephyr]

just pull ss nemona

[fiery rose]

Like I barely scraped 600k with SS Diantha on this one

[copper otter]

3/5 ss diantha?

[sullen zephyr]

when will we have physical nc blue

[pallid girder]

Roll a +80 atk Bracelet.

[fiery rose]

I feel like it might work better if I have Red over Paulo though

[thin wren]

I assume this is aoe fighting?

[fiery rose]

5/5 exr

[thin wren]

how strong is rei's nuke?

[copper otter]

My trainer in pasio, you can get 2 mil with her.

[fiery rose]

Someone probably can

Mine hits like 500k with three syncs and Paulo leading

[copper otter]

Do you not have nc blue?

[cunning rock]

Swords Dance gives her SEUN and SS Wally has Rebuff + Fairy Zone. She'd do better than Solgaleo at least

[fiery rose]

No

I was using colress/paulo

[thin wren]

For diantha?

[copper otter]

Not worth using Paulo

[fiery rose]

Yes

[thin wren]

why.

[fiery rose]

Paulo gives the extra push some accel

[thin wren]

it's better to use redlax + elio

[vernal condor]

Try BP Barry (if he's ex, otherwise uuuh colress ig) and Melony

[fiery rose]

The max move hits for about as much as her last sync

[thin wren]

Do you have redlax or sc Steven@fiery rose

[fiery rose]

Redlax yes

[copper otter]

Paulo has sandstorm on max and his damage output is not enough to warrant it. Meanwhile melony can allow diantha to sync up to 7 times

[fiery rose]

Paulo does not have sand om sync

[thin wren]

Is diantha 3/5?

[fiery rose]

Only on max

[copper otter]

I just woke up.

[thin wren]

Elio redlax is better for him imo since no nc blue

[fiery rose]

SS Diantha is 5/5 exr

[thin wren]

Go elio, redlax and diantha

[fiery rose]

I sorely doubt that will work but sure

[thin wren]

reset if your first body slam doesn't para

[vernal condor]

Why Elio

Go Melony

[fiery rose]

Propelling

[vernal condor]

Nah

Diantha's lithic accel is more than enough for gauge

[fiery rose]

Melony doesn't work if the team doesn't have some kind of speed buff

[copper otter]

Redlax is too slow which makes melony lose gauge

[fiery rose]

You run out of gauge long before lithic comes in

[copper otter]

Elio is better with redlax

[vernal condor]

Diantha zooms under rock zone

[fiery rose]

Diantha syncs third

[vernal condor]

Give it a try at least

[fiery rose]

You run out of gauge long before

[lapis yarrow]

Ok got one..but the +80 went towards Nemona and not Gordie..why?

[thin wren]

idt melony can be sustained on the comp?

[vernal condor]

Not if you manage your moves well

[thin wren]

worth a shot tho

[pallid girder]

Even with NC Blue Melony is losing gauge, A LOT.

[vernal condor]

Diantha has to rock tomb 4 times anyway

[thin wren]

@fiery rose think you can do that?

[fiery rose]

Plus Diantha has to throw out some rock tombs to get Cakewalk up

[vernal condor]

That's a lot of gauge you get back

[thin wren]

It's only twice right?

[slender venture]

I got an easy 1.4 mil with SS Diantha, SC Steven and BPBarry

With just 3 Diantha syncs

[crude sandal]

2 if you're willing to grid Trip Twice

[fiery rose]

4, second action is x speed all

[vernal condor]

Depends if you pick trip twice or soften up

[thin wren]

diantha has trip wire iirc

[pallid girder]

The theme skill you roll prob only apply on Nemona not Gordie?
Unlike type gears, skill gears only work on units with the said theme skills.

[fiery rose]

Yeah

[vernal condor]

Yeah but Barry buffs speed

[fiery rose]

So -2 that gets cleared

[thin wren]

so -4 and 2 rock tombs is -8

[fiery rose]

But +2 from x speed all

[vernal condor]

-2 on entry, -4 from 4 rock tomb, -2 post mega

[fiery rose]

Which is hardcoded second action

[thin wren]

trip wire reactivates on mega

[vernal condor]

I'd take soften up over trip twice ngl

[fiery rose]

Yes but that's still only -2 overall

[crude sandal]

You'll have -2 preemptively. 1 Rock Tomb with Trip Twice is -5. Barry does X Speed for +2 so it's -3. Another Rock Tomb is -3 so -6 overall

[thin wren]

Simply crit

[copper otter]

You literally get ÷9 spee drops

You will be fine

[thin wren]

soften up makes you click tomb more

[fiery rose]

The X Speed All forces you to do 2 more rock tombs or grid trip twice

[thin wren]

it's a waste

[lapis yarrow]

Ok sl gotta find a +80 that matches Gordie? Should I for sp atk too? Also, how do I speed up Melony?

[crude sandal]

This is the calc
https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1255888121648644197/1273212897069105193

[thin wren]

it's only st and you only need 3-4 diantha syncs

[copper otter]

5

[thin wren]

still soften up is not worth it

[crude sandal]

6 syncs with Diantha is possible

[copper otter]

You only supEX sync once

Do not do two, waste of time imo

[crude sandal]

Either you need para luck or Rock Wish: Initial Propulsion 1 and Adrenaline on Melony

[slender venture]

Point is with an invested Diantha there are many ways to crack the 1mil

[thin wren]

Won't field run out?

[copper otter]

No

[crude sandal]

If you have her EXR, no

[pallid girder]

Atk stat on Gordie matters a lot for his dmg. Spatk literally has 0 effect on him so don't bother.

[copper otter]

At 1:40, it lasts until the end

By that time, you'd already have a sup sync up

[thin wren]

oh, it takes until 1:40 for ya all to sync?

[copper otter]

No, that's the duration of a Field EX effect

[thin wren]

I get mine on 1:55 so I have to click zone again at the end if I sync with only 1 redlax

[crude sandal]

Reaching 6 syncs with Diantha requires substantial amounts of patience

[slender venture]

6 syncs is overkill anyway

[copper otter]

Waste of time to set another zone unless you're about to sync again, and if so, you need an extra 7 seconds, 10 if the opponent queues a move

[pallid girder]

Ppl who want to be top 1 won't think it's overkill.

[thin wren]

Lemme try with syncing with diantha again

[slender venture]

This was a matter of getting 1mil

Not leaderboard

[copper otter]

Imagine saying something is overkill in a most damage possible event.

That's wild to me

[fiery rose]

Ok fuck this I'm giving elio flameproof

This is the fourth attempt

He's been burned every single time

[copper otter]

Inb4 diantha gets burned and neuters sync damage

[pallid girder]

Wow you're quite unlucky

[lapis yarrow]

Should I boost Speed on Melony? Takes like 30 sec to sink w her

[copper otter]

30 seconds on first sync is common

[thin wren]

??

[pallid girder]

Speed on anyone is fine. You dont really need to roll one specific for Melony.

[thin wren]

it should take 20 seconds to sync with melony

[copper otter]

The best goal to reach is ~1:40 for your second sync. That would be the most optimal. Better if you're faster

[thin wren]

if not less

[cursive saddle]

whos the next dc stage

[thin wren]

aoe fairy

ss glad time.

[copper otter]

Initial setup before battle takes about 5 seconds, you need to have 3 turns setting up which takes about 25 seconds

[thin wren]

oh thought you meant when fully set up already

[copper otter]

No. First sync should be around the 2:20-2:10 range

If under that, you're in a bad position to sneak another sync unless para luck

Granted due to rock tomb move time, expect the time to be around 2:05

[thin wren]

By that do you mean to get the first sync or do all syncs take 30 seconds with her?

[copper otter]

First sync they meant

[crude sandal]

I managed 9 sync buffs with NC Blue/NC Leaf/Melony before I hard ran out of gauges

[lapis yarrow]

I think the first but I'll run it again and find out. Won't be until later today though

[copper otter]

Honestly i'm starting to like adrenaline more than HS1.

[pallid girder]

The one who responsible for giving rock weak opponent speed buff is a psycho

[thin wren]

A lot of x items seem deliberate imo

elec weak enemies buff speed

[copper otter]

HS1 lowers sync time sure, but it also makes buffing sink into 2nd sync CD.

[pallid girder]

I don't get it.

[fiery rose]

Ok, barely scraped 1mil

Flameproof was necessary it seems

[vagrant ivy]

this is with a burn sync build

don’t feel motivated to push higher with this

[copper otter]

It's not hard to understand.

Using HS1 gives you less time to buff before first sync, whereas Adr1 gives you more time which can give you more time to start sync rushing

[crude sandal]

Hmmmm, without Satisfied Snicker and Overwhelm, Leaf only has 16 total debuffs out of 18 for Power Play

[copper otter]

Fire ST is going to be hilarious ngl

[fiery rose]

Hilariously awful

[copper otter]

Might actually use Celesa for her

Nc leaf*

[fiery rose]

It's basically NC Leaf or perish

And her setup is godless

[crude sandal]

Or Glorialt

[slender venture]

NC Leaf will overthrow NC Hop for highest ST I feel

[fiery rose]

I doubt it

Too much setup

[crude sandal]

Nah

[copper otter]

Eh, not really

[fiery rose]

Six leers and tm

[crude sandal]

I got 9 sync buffs with Leaf, and that's with gauge problems for Melony

[slender venture]

Lol six leers

[pallid girder]

NC Hop's setup is not better than NC leaf tho.

[crude sandal]

NC Blue will help

[cunning rock]

NC Leaf only has one Sun charge and it's tied to her B move

[copper otter]

There are debuffers that can easily do it. I'm already thinking Celesa/Elio/NCLeaf

[slender venture]

It's on sync

[cunning rock]

At least NC Hop has it seperately

[copper otter]

2

Sync does sun at 3/5

[slender venture]

NC Leaf has sun on sync, literally the best possible spot

[crude sandal]

She has 2 uses of sun actually

You just have to use her B Move at the right moment

[slender venture]

I know she has one on b move innately

[fiery rose]

Only bc she also has drought alert iirc

[crude sandal]

Mainly in setting up

[cunning rock]

Forgot that she even had that. Thanks.

[copper otter]

You shouldn't be using her B move regardless lmao

[fiery rose]

B move or 3 leers

[slender venture]

But bringing own sun, -2 rebuff, and insane nuke in 1 teammate is insane

[fiery rose]

Which is faster

[crude sandal]

Her B Move helps her set up Power Play faster and it sets up sun

[copper otter]

3 leers

B move already has a 3 second startup

[fiery rose]

Which is about the time it takes one leer to go through all its stat drops

[pallid girder]

In the end of the day you still need the same turn for setup, no?
Like if I need 1 TM + 3 regular move to setup, I can't skip in any means no matter I use AD1 or HS1.

[fluid anvil]

not a chance, I dont think she will break 3M even with Chase.
But it might be the 3-rd best ST result after NCHop and Jacq

[fiery rose]

Honestly I doubt NC Leaf will even be the best ST Fire

I think gloria will outdo her

[slender venture]

Like NC Hop didn't have any faster setup

[copper otter]

Adr1 allows you sync rush faster while the HS1 situation has you continue buffing into 2nd sync rotation which gives the opponent time to recover gauge faster.

You should be starting to sync rush after first sync which hs1 can deny depending on how much you need to setup

[fluid anvil]

NC leaf will be the best easily. After that SS May and Gloria

[copper otter]

Meanwhile adr will be able to make up the difference

[fiery rose]

It's more profitable to not skip cycle 1 because they will act instantly regardless for the first cycle and a half or so

So you might as well go standard buffing cycles through the first cycle

[slender venture]

SS May will want SC Steven, luckily I have both

[copper otter]

Ss May is gonna go crazy

Shame i only have her 1/5

[fiery rose]

I'm gonna have to hope nc leaf can make it work lmao

[copper otter]

She will easily

[fiery rose]

She's not that great in my past experience so

[copper otter]

To be fair, you're having trouble with getting 1 mil with 5/5 ss diantha.

[fiery rose]

I've tried her as a DPS/nuker before but bluntly she's demoted to debuffer for a reason

Yeah well, only so much you can do with this stuff

[fluid anvil]

NC leaf is great, Powerplay is perfectly fine to set up here. In everything else she is way better than the other Fire techs

[slender venture]

She has one of the most stacked kits ever

Imagine having insane nuke, great dps, sun and -2 rebuff

On top of debuffs

[copper otter]

I feel like SS may may... haha.... have a chance due to her amount of sync rush potential

[fiery rose]

I use her to debuff for bug in CSMM bc SS Hilda just outdoes her in virtually everything that isn't specifically this.

[thin wren]

Chase over celesa

[fiery rose]

Ah well, problems for another time

Let's just hope ny lisia can do something with aoe fairy

[thin wren]

second best option probably

[slender venture]

3rd after Nemona

[crude sandal]

https://youtu.be/9bJWSTipjY0?si=tEAQ5ZHx4Ltn7VKz

[fluid anvil]

Lisia could beat Nemona

[fluid anvil]

no Chase?

[pallid girder]

Ppl are confident that SS Gladion would be top 1?

[crude sandal]

Is he better?

[slender venture]

I am not

[fluid anvil]

He boosts all Leaf damage by x1.3

[thin wren]

will nemona be better?

[slender venture]

Hard to tell now

[vernal condor]

I think Nemona can be better

[thin wren]

is 2 circle enough for the entire match?

[vernal condor]

yes

[crude sandal]

With extension, yes

[fluid anvil]

I dont have any faith in top 1 Nemona

[thin wren]

no extension on circle btw

[vernal condor]

yeah you just set it a bit later

[thin wren]

her field has no extension

how long does a normal circle last?

[crude sandal]

Same as a normal field

[vernal condor]

speeding sun for gauge

[thin wren]

same. Her setup stuff isn't that much faster than sd glad

[thin wren]

40 seconds?

[vernal condor]

50

normal fields are 50 too

i believe

[thin wren]

so 100 seconds

you need to sync from 1:40 huh

[vernal condor]

gladion has a x2 and a x1.3 mult, nemona has x2 and x1.9, as well as circle

[pallid girder]

Fairy 3v3 uses x Def all, Crunch, Facade, Hyper Voice and Surf

[thin wren]

glad in exchange has this

[crude sandal]

Is this with Super Syncer?

[thin wren]

No.

[vernal condor]

how many sync buffs is that btw because you show funny numbers but if it's 2 or 10 it's not the same

[fluid anvil]

Gladions 2 B-moves are Ash-tier (except they're AoE), each one will hit as hard or harder than Nemonas sync

[crude sandal]

If the fire weak stage has no X Speed, then another sync might be possible

[fluid anvil]

Gladion - SS Wally - NC Rosa (for SMUN buffs ) ?

[pallid girder]

Glad they didn't give it x spatk all to fuck up SS Gladion.

[fluid anvil]

oh wait nvm no paralysis .. damn

[thin wren]

3 for the first ss glad b move and the last has 7 sync buffs

[fluid anvil]

SS Wally kinda fucks up sing spam

[vernal condor]

you don't want to click gladion's b move early, I don't think it's worth

[slender venture]

Gladion team won't get many syncs in

[thin wren]

bp Barry over nc rosa

[thin wren]

you are forced to

[vernal condor]

no?

[thin wren]

ss glad b move only refreshes on first ss glad sync

[crude sandal]

Who statuses?

[vernal condor]

don't pick the refresh????

[fluid anvil]

Neither will nemona if you are using SS Wally.
her animations are slow + no extensions

[thin wren]

?? you don't go for the double b move?

[vernal condor]

no??

it's way too slow

[fluid anvil]

I think you def go for double B-move

[vernal condor]

nate didnt go for b move every sync

[pallid girder]

I speculate Nemona would take forever after she clicks sun.

[thin wren]

Nate's b move didn't hit nearly as hard and was more sync reliant

[fluid anvil]

gladions B-mvoe hits MUCH harder than Nates

[thin wren]

should be slightly longer than 1 ss glad b move

[fluid anvil]

Nate doesnt even have extend range

[thin wren]

if we assume 8 sync buffs for the final b move, how hard does it hit?

[vernal condor]

ok but we're talking about a 3 sync buff b-move
is it worth losing that much time (aka probably so much time that you lose a sync ngl)

[crude sandal]

BP Valerie will go hard

[thin wren]

The b move hits harder than a sync

[fluid anvil]

"is it worth using Ash b-move 2-nd time if you could do so" ? Thats Gladion

[pallid girder]

Gladion's sync is not that impressive tbh.

[thin wren]

also gives smun to him so the fluers that are required will hit for 50k

[vernal condor]

ash's b move is worse because you lose all your gauge

[slender venture]

Honestly better to miss Fleur cannon

[crude sandal]

I mean, it has a long animation anyways

[thin wren]

could you send a calc of 8 sync buff ss glad final b move ?

[slender venture]

How would you get 8 sync buffs

[thin wren]

it triggers on failure?

[slender venture]

Yes

[hybrid lagoon]

Someone pls send the video of gordie redlax and elio 1m clear

[vernal condor]

unironically might me larry's time to shine

[thin wren]

Lemme check. How many sync buffs the team I built gets in and then that number+1 can be added to mael's comp

[vernal condor]

(probably not but it'd be funny)

[thin wren]

idt nemona is the best here

[umbral sleet]

Whimsical Acceleration 2

Quickly charges the move gauge when the zone is a Fairy Zone.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Sygna Suit Hau & Tapu Koko
Sygna Suit Mina & Tapu Fini
Sygna Suit Wally & Gardevoir
Lisia (New Year's 2023) & Rapidash
Volo & Togepi

[thin wren]

Larry has para?

[pallid girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=potM1YqaKMo

[vernal condor]

numbing blow

[crude sandal]

NY Lisia + SS Wally + Melony can go hard tho

Nah nah

[thin wren]

Issue with nemona is that you have to delay sync

[crude sandal]

No para unit

[hybrid lagoon]

ty

[thin wren]

do you do first nemona sync without circle?

[pallid girder]

I guess we can only use the good ol' Barry with SS Wally + SS Gladion.

[vernal condor]

probably

i dunno

[thin wren]

redlax over Larry

[vernal condor]

hear me out
paralysis with zap cannon

1st sync with melony, 2nd with volo

[pallid girder]

accidentally trigger fissure and find it useless

[thin wren]

are you sane.

[vernal condor]

tbf there aren't that many move in b metronome

volo provides another circle, fairy zone, and circle team sync power

you don't drop defenses because nemona's b move is too slow sadly

[crude sandal]

Does fairy have one of the most conflicting comps ever?

[vernal condor]

her 1st sync is doing 90k~100k per opponent

1st sync

[crude sandal]

If the fairy-weak stage does some kind of status condition, then SS Gladion is a must

[pallid girder]

They don't.

[vernal condor]

just get lucky smh

Also one thing very important that everyone forgets about

Nemona has guaranteed crits, not Gladion

nvm he has soften up at base

[slender venture]

He has too

[pallid girder]

#1255888121648644197 message
No status. You can tank w SS Gladion and reflect def debuff from Crunch but it'll be useless for him and waste a bit of time.

[vernal condor]

still i think im cooking with my volo nemona melony team

[pallid girder]

Actually the Larry team seems more legit and almost perfect.

[vernal condor]

on insight i think nc blue is just better than larry

another supp sync + team sync power + gauge

if you wanna reset for it you give him dc2 and have it proc on the 1 discharge you use, then you run the def drop on sync tile and all opponents are at -1

the sync does less damage than with volo because obviously, but the setup is much faster

yeah with larry you deal much less damage than blue

[fluid anvil]

Larry is for 3v1, not 3v3

[vernal condor]

even on 3v1 blue is better

oh wait i forgot the rebuff uh

[pallid girder]

I can't wait to get fuel economy Twave/SSpore support as anni unit!
Tired of Melony/Elio/NC Rosa needing another status applicator to work.

[vernal condor]

ok there's an argument to be made for larry on 3v1
but then again you don't use nemona on 3v1 lol

[thin wren]

how many syncs do you think you get in?

[thin wren]

is that after suport sync?

[vernal condor]

after support and volo so +3

and uh idk tbh

[thin wren]

so only 30k stronger than ss glad first sync and about the same time

[copper otter]

Why chase when celesa debuffs

[thin wren]

ss glad also gets a 360k right before his first sync from first b move

[thin wren]

kanto circle

[copper otter]

You need debuffs fast which celesa provides easily as well as para

[thin wren]

how many debuffs does leaf get in?

[copper otter]

4 iirc on leer

Celesa does 6 on hit iirc.

[thin wren]

chase also has accel and evasion btw

So how many can leaf get in for powerplay

[copper otter]

Atk spatk def spdef speed and acc iirc

[fluid anvil]

Leaf debuffs herself and x1.3 is way better

[vernal condor]

Just tried this team for the funny, I managed to use 6 syncs with serena

[thin wren]

Chase gives leaf a 30% multiplicative

[fluid anvil]

Chase-Melony will almost always be best for Special nukers that can set up themselves

[thin wren]

AND evasion

[vernal condor]

Chase is better than Blue ?

[copper otter]

Wait nvm, no acc

[thin wren]

Unless the dd has a broken enabler like ss Wally

[thin wren]

depends

[fluid anvil]

for special yes

[vernal condor]

Blue has SpD drops on sync tho

And a team sync mult

[fluid anvil]

not as good as x1.2-1.3 damage

[thin wren]

Chase should be a lot better than celesa

[copper otter]

You can do leaf + celesa for 1st turn rotation max debuffs

[vernal condor]

Team sync mult is a 1.2

[fluid anvil]

no its just 20% .. Chases is x1.2 separate

[vernal condor]

Ah

[fluid anvil]

multiplicative >> additive

[vernal condor]

Yeah I know that

[thin wren]

Or you can take 1 or 2 more turns to get a 1.2x and evasion

[vernal condor]

I just have a grand total of 1 circle pair so I dont know much about it

[fluid anvil]

5/5 Chase has SpDef debuffs too btw

[thin wren]

chase also has mind games 9 if needed

[vernal condor]

Yeah but you need to attack

And it's single target

[thin wren]

still he can do sp def if necessary

[fluid anvil]

you still attack at least once, same as with Blue. 2-nd thundershock is fast too, can fit it in
and yeah its better for 3v1
while Circle works for everything

[surreal venture]

why are ppl using NC Blue and Melony for this DC?

i don't get it

[thin wren]

do you know about sing spam

[surreal venture]

okaayyyy... So why not NC Rosa?

can i use SS DIantha, NC Rosa and NC Blue instead?

[crude sandal]

Because Rosa has to switch forms

[surreal venture]

ohhh

[crude sandal]

And it wastes a lot of time

[surreal venture]

I see. OK got it

[crude sandal]

It's only a matter of how to maintain your gauge

[long silo]

If you are using NC Rosa then you won't sync with her at all

[last stream]

Is there a video of 2m?

I've got 5/5 exr +10e Diantha but I've only mustered 1.3m.

[fluid anvil]

2.2M Diantha definitely requires very good gear and probably 8 syncs total

[last stream]

I mean I did 4 syncs with Diantha, and 1 each with Blue and Melony. So I need 10+ sync buffs?

[pallid girder]

Afaik 6 sync by Diantha is the requirement to reach 2M

[last stream]

You need Rock Zone extension?

I was using Lithic Acceleration

[true locust]

Rock zone extension and acceleration

Both

[last stream]

wait what about trip twice...

are you giving up SU1?

[jolly violet]

if you have Diantha caked then you don't need it

[last stream]

Yeah Mine is caked.

Only thing I was doing different from Skinny's vid was using the 2nd rock tomb after Staraptor buffed speed.

[pallid girder]

Field unit being the second or the third to sync would last the entire battle in DC

[true locust]

I would use this one

Sadly need kick one sync note since no energy for it

[vernal condor]

what

[true locust]

You low speed on entry so no need use rock thromb

[vernal condor]

Yes you need

Barry buffs his Speed so you still need to rock tomb twice

[true locust]

A yes🤣

[vernal condor]

So might as well get trip twice

[last stream]

rolling for 8+ crits in a row.... 💀

[jolly violet]

I use this to get 2M

[true locust]

Then this

Soften up is for corwards only

Nobody use it

Skinny never use it

Me also when did ranked

You losing others stuff wat make you more

[vernal condor]

Reseting for all sync crit sucks

[true locust]

This is game lol wat we play

And on soft up your sync also can not crit

[fluid anvil]

no reason not to take soften-up 1 if your Diantha is 5/5

[true locust]

Yes since you use rock trow one time not 2

Not lossing alot time

And no need hope for para save your ass

[last stream]

Trip Wire 1 doesn't help in this case though. You still need to Rock Tomb twice regardless.

[true locust]

Why you need sync crit when no time lol more chance all your sync crit then get para

Help 1 time

[jolly violet]

Diancie Mega can active trip wire again

[true locust]

Yes

[jolly violet]

So you don't really need 2 rock tomb

[true locust]

Yeap

[crude sandal]

You'll be at -4 total

[true locust]

And need one rock throw

[warped gulch]

Ay still didn’t get SEUN for Max Move

[crude sandal]

I asssume with Trip Twice

[last stream]

So not max cakewalk for first sync then?

[normal parcel]

Neither since the sync is much stronger

[last stream]

But you still need to attack twice and tm to maximize ATK stat…

[copper otter]

Anyways, fairy MT will be fun with ny lisia

Super syncer 9 is going to be her crutch lmao

[rain copper]

I wonder what team is best for her

SS Wally + paralyzer?

[copper otter]

I'm doinng colress, penny, nylisia

Although sswally....

Sswally, colress, nylisia might be the play

Zone and rebuff, def drops and para, then super syncer carrying her

And iirc lisia has soften up

[crude sandal]

She doesn't

[copper otter]

Wait she doesn't

[crude sandal]

Jinx

[warped gulch]

GL with Sync crit lol

[copper otter]

Paing

[normal parcel]

No DC will be fun if the optimal unit had 80% crit

Expecially MT

But gladion has guaranteed crit so probably it will be fun

I guess with 1/5 SC Steven I can't break 1.3m

I guess the higher score runs abuse MPR on SC steven

[sacred badger]

BP Valerie. o-o;

[normal parcel]

Bp Valerie will be fine for f2p

[sacred badger]

team... i guess you can do

BP Valerie + Penny + Colress. o_o;

[normal parcel]

That's not f2p territory, but i guess it will work

[crude sandal]

I'm thinking BP Barry/SS Gladion/SS Wally

[warped gulch]

+10E

[sacred badger]

i've got penny 1/5 so thaata's just rebuff really.

[warped gulch]

[sacred badger]

fairy zone's probably better, but i dont have a lot of those

[normal parcel]

Maybe SS wally, but it has to sync once to apply rebuff

[pallid girder]

His sync has great dmg tho

[normal parcel]

If you have him invested, yes

[crude sandal]

Not sure if this is good for Gladion
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11901/80100?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFERQXGBobJyksLS8&x=true

[civic island]

I rely on that

[normal parcel]

Wally may be interesting for gladion because that -4 sp attack saves him the grid node

[crude sandal]

Wally can do -8 Sp. Atk. all by himself

Which means, even if the enemy has X Sp. Atk. All, Wally just completely counters it

[civic island]

Even w/o that he's broken with all his utility

[warped gulch]

Cant wait to reset for missing Fleur Cannon

[crude sandal]

Doesn't it not unlock when your regular Fleur Cannon misses?

[normal parcel]

It has to be successful

[warped gulch]

It still unlock even miss

[normal parcel]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't

[warped gulch]

It does

The condition is use the move

[slender venture]

It does

I have done it sometimes to conserve smun

SS Wally debuff spatk fully anyways

[crude sandal]

Wally is also convenient for this one since he has Quick Tempo to temporarily help with gauges if you have Melony

[normal parcel]

At least it has guaranteed crit

[slender venture]

You won't struggle with gauge in the start

[sacred badger]

hrm interesting.

[normal parcel]

I don't think melony is available with wally

[slender venture]

That too

You have no paralyse

[normal parcel]

However I don't want to add that 50% reset chance with wally on top of that 10% miss fish

That's like 5% chance of optimal run if you bring wally

If you don't even need full para

[warped gulch]

But -1 Rebuff, Fairy Zone is just very good

[normal parcel]

Is good, but unextended fairy wish is slow

B move is slow too I guess

[warped gulch]

That team is very slow anyway

[crude sandal]

And also speed buff along with Sp. Atk. drops

[warped gulch]

3 B Move

[civic island]

Gladion sprint role can compensate that

[normal parcel]

T wave is slow

Or stun spore i guess

[civic island]

And w soften up we'll see crazy numbers

[warped gulch]

We might see dps for that team

With Red

Gladion Sync isn’t that strong anyway

[normal parcel]

I don't think double b move will be the way

Too slow , and too convoluted

[crude sandal]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=003401078800&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010101&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFDA4RFCAiJScq&v1=028901098500&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDRAREhQXGBslLi8&v2=019100060100&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFFRYZIyUnKCssLQ

[civic island]

Hit hard as sync

[warped gulch]

Ehh, not that slow, just Sing is too fast

[crude sandal]

Also Infliction Freebie kinda slows it down

[warped gulch]

Sing and Stun spore has same speed

[fluid anvil]

gladions B-move hits harder than his sync, even more so with SMUNs
If you arent using his b-move twice idk why you are bringing gladion at all

[normal parcel]

The main issue is that for double b move you have to commit the grid to it, you have to get -6 early on and you need to do it before 1st gladion sync (so with wally is just 3 sync buffs) and you probably want to fish a 10% miss after that

[warped gulch]

The thing holding back is passive

[normal parcel]

Who is the alternative (not counting nemona)

[warped gulch]

Wally just makes -6 SpA by himself already

[fluid anvil]

Nemona, Lisia.
i guess of you only have gladion then it doesnt matter

[sacred badger]

whoa

ss nemona huh

[fluid anvil]

no tech+strike Fairy pair 😦

[normal parcel]

I think the strat will probably be NC Rosa + NC blue and try to land something like +10 final b move with lots of sync buffs

[sacred badger]

i wawnt palentine serena to get STRIKE EXR 😄

[civic island]

No diantha side expansion 💀

[warped gulch]

Gladion’s Sync just isn’t that strong

[sacred badger]

like here sync nuke is really good.

[warped gulch]

And dmg caps at 999,999 tho

[normal parcel]

I mean if you can get 999.999 is like 3m just with the b move

[slender venture]

Won't be a cap anyway

[normal parcel]

I don't think gladion can cap with the b move

[crude sandal]

He'd need a lot of SpMUN stacks

[last stream]

Kinda wish there was phys spec stages outside of ranked

[crude sandal]

I have a feeling, that the best team is
SS Mina/SS Nemona or NY Lisa/Colress

It's very funny to think that physical fairy DDs are better than special fairy DDs

[shrewd fractal]

no 30% paralyze in my last 10 battles

i wonder what the odds of that is

[normal parcel]

I think with chase and NC Rosa if you can get 9 sync buffs and +10 it should hit for like 400k per target

[crude sandal]

SS Gladion?

[normal parcel]

Final b move

They have 83 def?

[warped gulch]

I tried Red/Gladion/Wally and able to get 4 Syncs

Enemy got -3 SpDef

[crude sandal]

Would anyone be willing to try this?
https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1255888121648644197/1273267238438174824

[warped gulch]

So with SEUN and 3 Syncs Buff he should be able to get 999k dmg

[normal parcel]

But how you get +10

[warped gulch]

Only +3 SMUN is enough

You can calculate yourself

[normal parcel]

+3 with how many sync buffs?

[civic island]

~~ 999k each target ~~

[vernal condor]

jacq with extend range be like

[normal parcel]

However 400k was with circle too

[warped gulch]

Oh right each target i forgot

[vernal condor]

I think that's the best pal serena team but i can't even try it lol

maybe you run out of gauge too, not sure, dunno how big of a boost is whim accel

[fluid anvil]

you quickly run out of gauge spamming 2 bar

[vernal condor]

replace mina by larry and i got 6 syncs total

[normal parcel]

I calculated +8 with seun but no circle, still 9 sync buffs, still around 400k

[crude sandal]

Anyone have a feeling that Colress might be the best sync spammer here?

[copper otter]

He's not.

[crude sandal]

I mean for the next DC

[copper otter]

It depends on who you use.

[normal parcel]

I don't think there's a team that can beat NC Rosa + chase final b move damage

[copper otter]

Most people will use SS Gladion, and by then, they'd want penny and Bp barry

[warped gulch]

That lower than 4 Syncs buff with Fairy Zone + Rebuff + SEUN + 3 SMUN

[normal parcel]

Who gives +3?

[warped gulch]

He can

[crude sandal]

Gladion by himself

[warped gulch]

You can grid Tm mpr

And with grid he can gives +3 SMUN with Tm + X Speed

More if your game love you and gives more Tm mpr

[normal parcel]

X speed can give smun?

[warped gulch]

With grid

[normal parcel]

What node?

[crude sandal]

He already has 4 SpMUN stacks without TM MPR

[normal parcel]

Ah it works with x speed too?

[warped gulch]

Yes

[normal parcel]

Then it's good

[warped gulch]

I used it to oneshot sidemon in Giovani UB

[crude sandal]

So what's the verdict then?

[lethal siren]

Ig in dc
It will be more cool

[normal parcel]

I guess 3/5+ wally will be optimal

[thin wren]

ofc

su1 is a waste in st dc tbh

Su1 on grid is for those who don't wanna achieve new heights

[cunning rock]

ST Ghost is gonna be funny because it's still gonna be SSR Cynthia

[normal parcel]

I mean even with just 4 hits you have a 60% Chance of missing at least 1 crit

[lethal siren]

Wht abt SS KORRINA

[normal parcel]

She will definitely have a better setup than Cynthia

[cunning rock]

She'll have a field day too since DC only buffs once plus Support EXR is great for this

[lethal siren]

Rising tide

[lethal siren]

Yea

Critical hit up is also rising tide right?

10 stat she can increase herself

[copper otter]

Yea, crit rate counts for rising tide

[lethal siren]

Nice

[normal parcel]

Now I know why SS korinna doesn't have soften up

[lethal siren]

Is this good?
Coz +2 extra Eva with tm

[warped gulch]

Why Quick Tempo ?

[lethal siren]

Wht else should I take

Ig 2 fortuitous good to use in between for rising tide?

Oh 3 fortuitous 9

[lethal siren]

Oh

[fluid anvil]

SSR Cynthia will most likely be able to get 2M+ in 3v1 Ghost.
for now she and SS Hilbert will be the only pairs to get 2M in 3v1 + 4M in 3v3. Kinda insane
we'll see if Nate or Dahlia or NC Red or Ash can join them in that elite club

[thin wren]

does having it change your damage in a way you couldn't have just resetted for?does it save the battle timer to allow you to get more syncs in?

[jolly violet]

New height achieved

Not sure if I can go higher than this

[last stream]

two rock tomb?

[jolly violet]

1 rock tomb and 1 Diamond storm. Barry paralyzed 3 times in a row

Since I've achieve 2M with Soften Up 1 so I decided to go rouge and remove it for Trip Wire 1

[crude sandal]

Did you use her TM?

[vernal condor]

Video?

[jolly violet]

Nope

[thin wren]

Iirc skinny tried the nc blue comp but got less points so she got 2.3 mil with another team

[long silo]

I only saw 2.2m from her but it's still NC Blue team

[ivory kestrel]

Something weird in this run. I failed to burn Barry til Gordie’s last sync, so I was sleep-locking Staraptor til then. The extra sync more than made up for the reduced sync damage (coz no Scorching Sync til the last one)

[fluid anvil]

3v3 Fairy -- SS Gladion or nemona or Lisia - SS Wally - BP Barry (I only got 1/5 Lisia and OG Diantha)
3v1 Ghost -- SSR Cynthia - Melony - NC blue
3v3 fire -- Mix Blue - Melony - Chase (have 3/5 NY Wallace instead)
3v1 Dragon -- Lucas - Melony - Chase
3v3 Water -- Dahlia - Melony - Chase again I guess .. am a rare 4/5 EXR Dahlia haver - too bad she doesnt have Soften-Up 1

[sturdy pebble]

Is it Diantha that is shit or me?

[crude sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[sturdy pebble]

Bruh, am I really about to get a better score by using Gordie instead?

[thin wren]

you

[normal parcel]

What SS disntha should take to not being able to afford soften up?

[vernal condor]

trip twice

[true locust]

You can take soft up🤣

I make new maybe not better team but similar

[loud cedar]

holy

[true locust]

Around 2m if get all stuff corect mp stevens

Should be

[loud cedar]

u got gauge with melony sing spam?

[true locust]

Way better then fish for 2-3 blue para

Yes

No issue gauge

[loud cedar]

wait whats your status

just raw sleep?

[true locust]

You have 1 speed from steven and acceleration from zone diantha

Not realy

You have use steven b lear

Melony tmp and g max

Since this raise all def for boost diantha syncs

Just got bored and pick diantha from banner🤣

So test other team comps

Nc blue is the best but 2-3 para its realy hard get

[normal parcel]

Dojo Gloria can work for 1m, but SC Steven is better

[sturdy pebble]

How are you able to get over 1 mil

[true locust]

Lol realy easy

You need raise spe def and use stven b move

And super up next its all

And sing sing

[sturdy pebble]

Guess I'll try that

Wat

[true locust]

Steven need mprs

2/5 he have it

But still should be over 1 m any way

[wise dune]

How many syncs are you guys managingto fit? I'm really struggling to land 7 syncs total with Diantha and Blue + Melony

[normal parcel]

I land 5 total with Gordie

This is the max I could score with 1/5 steven

I tried melony, but she can't keep with gauge

Even by using Steven tm, she struggles and in the end it ends up being slower than Rosa despite relic song

[vernal condor]

I literally did it with Melony

[normal parcel]

I mean you can, but she doesn't nets you an extra sync

Or at least I found the time more tight with her

[normal parcel]

With 1/5 Steven?

Rosa can give +4 speed to the whole team and +2 accuracy helps speeding up sing spam

With +4 she can spam sing without issues

Relic song is a bit slow, but sprint exr and no gauge issues makes for it

[vernal condor]

Yes 1/5 steven

[normal parcel]

1 + 4 syncs?

[vernal condor]

EX, but it doesnt change much

I think so yeah

[normal parcel]

I mean is 40 extra speed

[vernal condor]

I mean my video is in the doc

[sturdy pebble]

Is it sad that I'm actually considering it

[normal parcel]

3/5 can't even easily get 1m?

[vernal condor]

She can it's just not a good team

[normal parcel]

Ah diantha can't status

What's the optimal team?

Isn't the 1.8m that team (but more invested)?

[sturdy pebble]

If there isn't a video I can reference, my IQ goes down past 0

[latent plover]

Diantha is much harder to use here without her EX R since she wants sp. def for her multipliers, though I guess Melony can help with a tm

Like her animations take way too long otherwise so I did Gordie instead

[normal parcel]

Melony can give spdef with max guard

I think it should be faster than tm

[true locust]

Ehh one super up and b move would make it 2m😭

But still ok

[sturdy pebble]

[normal parcel]

I guess I'm fine with my 1.4m clear, considering 1/5 Steven and cs2 on Gordie

[sturdy pebble]

So EXR is THAT important?

[true locust]

Yes you need it for long zone

Or pick exrta zone from grid

[normal parcel]

Rock wish is really slow

And using it twice is really bad

[true locust]

Haha

I use it twice

So not bad

Better then rock throw use lol

[normal parcel]

I mean you can, but if you have exr is better

[true locust]

You need raise attack

So need use something any way

Tmp and zone

[normal parcel]

Don't you need to rock tomb to counter x speed?

[true locust]

No

[normal parcel]

Ah no there's steven

[true locust]

You have stevens

He do all

[latent plover]

She gives sp. def buffs with max moves? Huh

[true locust]

Yeap

And melony tmp 2 times and g max

[normal parcel]

She has max barricade buddies 2

[latent plover]

Why Melony need tm

To land sleeps?

[true locust]

No for spe def max

[sturdy pebble]

I could either EXR Diantha or EX Gordie

Both are awful ideas, but it seems like one is necessary to get 1 mil

[latent plover]

Why would you need to max spm def

[true locust]

She need miss sleep not land it

[normal parcel]

But only lodge Steven needs max spdef

[latent plover]

Doesn't Diantha get multiplier from any sp. def raised

[true locust]

Yes she have scloar sync

[normal parcel]

Those are really solid units, so not a bad idea regardless

[latent plover]

So she only need tm once

At best

Maybe not even that

[true locust]

No

2 melony tm

And g max

[normal parcel]

But diantha just needs +1

[latent plover]

Why though. If Diantha doesn't need it what's the purpose

[normal parcel]

Not that she will die from heat wave

[latent plover]

Scholar Sync is with sp. def raised

[true locust]

Yeap

[sturdy pebble]

I won't sync with Diantha outside of this mode, and Gordie.

[true locust]

So max is 6

[normal parcel]

But doesn't scale

[latent plover]

You don't need +6

[normal parcel]

Isn't brute wits

[glad kraken]

it doesnt scale, that's brute wits

[latent plover]

it works with +1

[true locust]

When i got 6 i deal more damage

Then 1

[latent plover]

Yeah exactly

[normal parcel]

Is like speedester sync

Or brain sync

You just need positive stat

+1 or +6 is irrelevant

[latent plover]

You sure it isn't damage ranges?

[true locust]

Maybe?

[sturdy pebble]

Jesus, I AM absolutely awful

[glad kraken]

sounds like damage ranges

[true locust]

Hard tell it for sure🤣

[latent plover]

Try with +1 and see how it goes

[normal parcel]

The lodge Steve passive scales with spdef

[latent plover]

Olympia has it too

[true locust]

Any way then it make more time

When no need melony tmp

G max is insta

[latent plover]

Maybe now you can do 2 million

I think skinny did like 2.2 million

[true locust]

She use nc blue

I dont want hope get 2/3 para

Its annoing as hell

[latent plover]

It's single target though

90% para

Blue is annoying only in 3v3

[true locust]

He need para for not hit me lol

I mean

Barry need get paralyz so he cant move 2-3 times

Then can get 1 more sync for 2m+

[normal parcel]

Discharge has 90% chance single target at 3/5

[true locust]

Issue bary cant move 2/3 times

This is issue

[normal parcel]

I getting the full AOE paralysis the real annoying thing because is just 3 45% individual rolls

[true locust]

But when have 3 mons

[sturdy pebble]

Here's hoping

[true locust]

Its more chance some off them dont move from para

[normal parcel]

The chance is the same, is just that you need to paralyze 3 if is against 3

With 1 you just get full odds, with 3 at best you get the same odds

If you have to choose, I guess generally the center is the better target because it acts more than the sides

[latent plover]

With Melony I guess it doesn't matter if all 3 aren't paralysed but it mattered a lot in the Dark one with SS Cyrus

Cause Melony can spam sing on whoever is paraed

[normal parcel]

However I'm some cases a side may have a troublesome move and you may want to stun that

[normal parcel]

Doesn't matters unless you are fishing for full para or you have paralysis sync multipliers

[latent plover]

True, but I ain't willing to tryhard that much

I'm good for fairy 3v3 since I have NY Lisia

[normal parcel]

I have 3/5 SS gladion so I guess I'm fine too

[latent plover]

SS Gladion is probably optimal here

Great sync, and B-move

Mine is 1/5 and it ain't changing anytime soon

[fluid anvil]

I wonder if Cynthia - Elio (or ~NC Rosa) - 3/5 Fall Allister (he has paralysis at 3/5) could end up being the best Ghost 3v1 team
you can sing spam and you get x1.5 from double rebuff. Although without NC Blue you will need 3-4 shadowballs instead of ~2 to max out Smarty-Pants.
But still its a double rebuff support pair with paralysis... you would have double rebuff + zone + 2 SEUNs, while still having sing spam

[normal parcel]

Not sure if you can get 2 seun in 3v1

[fluid anvil]

why not ? enemy will still sync twice

[normal parcel]

Can the opponent sync twice?

[fluid anvil]

Pretty sure they always do?

[true locust]

Yeap 1 or 6 spe def is same this way i can have way more time but need mprs

[fluid anvil]

especially without speed debuffs

[normal parcel]

I guess with Gordie they don't

But probably is the -6 speed

[sturdy pebble]

How tf did I get 393k

[normal parcel]

She's 3/5?

[sturdy pebble]

Yeah

[normal parcel]

Not sure about the rotation, because I used Gordie

[sturdy pebble]

Are my grids just utter shit? https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009003050801&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=&v1=025500013100&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18090102&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFGhsdICEjJScq&v2=015802071902&s2=3&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFDA4RFBocHiMmNDU

[restive plaza]

i got a 1.1 mil run w/ 3/5 EXR. i can send grids and stuff in a bit if you want

i used Anni Blue tho

[clever wasp]

Stupid question. Can Volo get a million points 3/5 exr?

For the fairy dc

Cuz I'd rather not give Gladion 3/5 get cuz it might go to Nemona which depends on the other anni pairs

[icy pendant]

volo as main damage? very likely not, his statline sucks

also is his only grid multiplier really a 50% or am I missing something?

[glad kraken]

nope thats it