#Damage Challenge
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Gordie stinky. 
Probably I would have scored more with SP3, however cs2 is a flat 20% extra damage on the final max move
can a 3/5 Gordie do it? Assuming I have decent gears
Wow, the game thinks they're so funny. I got TM MPR on Diantha then Barry's Heat Wave burns her
As long as he's exed yes
okay
it will be tight tho
Wondering if rock tomb is faster than tar shot
It's not.
Is the 2nd rock tomb miss part of the strategy
No
Nothing is ever slower than rock tomb
oh
B diamond storm is
Diamond storm debuffs def which is faster than B leer
B Moves are exceptional
Plus chip damage always nice
X speed is really annoying since most rock units have cakewalk
Also you know what the slowest move in the game is right now?
B rock tomb 
Takes 16 seconds to finish everything from it
Isn't 1st volo's b metronome?
It doesn't matter for Diantha, she needs to use Rock Tomb twice anyways whether it be with Trip Twice or not
Sure, with decent gears
Damage rolls were not at their best and there could be room for a SE max move
So a good 3/5 run can definitely get 1M with some effort
Oh true actually but b metronome is variable due to rng
Matters for Gordie however
yeah I'm noting down the turn order and will try to duplicate your run 1:1 first
I did not need to use rock tomb 
Sc steven covers that for her.
I got 600k earlier with Urshifu/Coalossal/Meloetta so maybe this'll be better
Rock zone > b diamond storm then done. The def drops are worth it in order to save a leer from sc steven
Covers the speed drop from leer yes. But def drop and homing hit combined makes dianond storm more optimal to me at least
So who buffs her then?
What's the best Gordie score so far?
1.8mil supposedly
It does, but I think it's better to save it after she syncs
With Gordie?
I mean rock zone too which i saved her tm after she megaed
And who are the teammates?
Idk.
Gordie is the only unit that has the highest tech multipliers, and first place rn is 1.8 mil
Someone said to me that skinny used SS Diantha, have I been lied to?
Isn't diantha stronger due to zone?
Ss diantha as a support maybe
Like maybe ss diantha, gordie, sleep user?
But who would put seun š¤·āāļø
disappointed but at least I tried
Elio was a disaster, his passive take like 30s
16 seconds on B move
6 only
I guess the circle setup takes time
I have 1/5 Chase, usable?
yeah, lemme try it
Ig until Skinny share their build we'll never know is it SS Diantha or Gordie reach 1.8M
It can be both + insane gears
I mean if you rolled opp stat conditions S move dmg for hop using galar as theme skill you are likely to be recycling hopās gears

I'm really jealous about those gears
Still can't get over that 1m Cyrus
if only gordie was 5/5 
150 should push you
If I had to guess, it's probably sync spam with SS Diantha's TM
That's the only possible way for potential 1.8M
Got 490k with non EX Gordie (too lazy to EX him)
Itās unfortunate that itās less than I assumed he would get considering most EX Gordie get more than 900k so it would be understandable that non EX Gordie would get 600k (because 600k x 1.5 = 900k)
Wstch it be something crazy like ss diantha, Colress, Paulo
Using Gordie but can't go over 800k. Is Melony really a must or can I use NC Rosa instead?
Syncing with Rosa would waste more time
If you're willing to lose your mind and hope for TM MPRs, then SS Diantha might be better
I crossed 1 mil with ssdiantha without relying on any MPr or stuff, but I get what u mean
I user her tm only once
Interesting, 1.7 mil with nc blue/melony instead
My SS Diantha is just 2/5 and I am not candying her
I would just use Gordie instead
5/5 diantha with field should be getting a lot
Same
Also, i never spread misinformation, they're not using SC Steven so 
they asked if gordie is better than diantha and you said yes, nothing to do with steven 
I don't remember if all my sync crit
Ah yeah, genius. Blue has -2 defensive stat drops when he syncs, sets up Scholar Sync and paralyzes with Discharge
And also that +20% team sync move damage
@cursive saddle what are you using for attacks to get the sync multipliers
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Oh wow 8 syncs
basically sing spam if you meant to ask that and not the grid
Wht to pick in gladion grid
Sync nuke tiles are lower
Bmove tiles are above 
I knew that SS Diantha would be better, but I never expected the team to be like that
I have 149 tickets at the moment (if I donāt get any more this Damage Challenge stage)
I wonder if it would be possible for me to be able to get 151 tickets across the following two stages (Fairy 3v3 and Ghost 3v1)
Which 2 out of sc steven, cake redlax, melony, bp barry, zapdos should I be using with gordie?
Isn't NC Blue + Melony one of the staple ppl use a lot?
Oh. Fair,
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Well this is also good
You do realize the extra energy used here right?
Funny thing here is that this is with 3/5 Diantha and using CS2
That ko tile have no use
But have to take for sync
How inertia and cakewalk?
Posthaste9+scsteven b Move
pog
is Gordie optimal rn?
unfortunately I can only get 1 mil with Gordie while ss diantha got me 1.2 mil
4 sync + max move all no crit... fuck this game.
Looks like the three most used units are Gordie, SC Diantha, and Paulo
What's the Coalossal grid?
I used NC Rosa, didn't tried melony but I guess the gauge will be harsh
do you have sc Steven
Not sure if SC Steven can get 1m
I think he barely can
But needs some luck I guess
No wait I meant lodge steven
SC is the dog
sc Steven dps real
I know this question has been asked before, but is 3+/5 Melony important?
sc Steven nuke real
Does PMUN help max move?
This is my best, but cs2, lv140 and I could have squeezed +25 sync BP with energy expansion
It doesn't in any way
No. Only regular move.
And I skipped seun for second Steven sync (but I barely made it so I guess getting an extra stealth rock was unfeasible)
Is Mystery Solved worth using for the speed only then?
I need diantha teams
and video
Im trying diantha, colress and melony, but its not doing enough
not to mention the burn from heat wave
Mystery solved is quite slow and the speed is for 1 unit only but if it enables melony I guess is worth

NC Rosa doesn't have gauge issues but she's a bit slow
@teal harness Note: the video doesn't show grid
I mean relic song is time consuming despite sprint exr
But I guess exr Rosa is still faster than the average elio run
At least relic song buffs crit, so Gordie can have max crit without MPR on his tm
but he'll have 4atk
Berserker exists
scroll up
who can replace redlax here?
Berserker saves 1 tm usage, and that helps regardless
Melony can also buff crit, but I guess gauges will be pretty dire even with Gordie +6 speed
Maybe fast track melony can keep up
UElio win!
can I use nc rosa instead?
Best I seem to be able to do so ar
I dont have nc blue
Not sure
isn't it better to remove burn synergy and relocate orbs to attack nodes?
Yeah
Rip, I forgot
I wanna try nc rosa,colress and diantha
Wondering if by getting like speed +40 Gordie could afford melony
But even at +10 it can't fit everything if you get the speed nodes
Cool. Tried the Nc Blue melony comp for ss diantha, 2 non crits, and damage was abysmal.
Was at 500k at 1 min.
Why Melody over NC Rosa?
Sing spam. And relic song bad
I almost got 10 sync buffs in
But I would still use Sing with Rosa
You have to sync with her for sprint exr which forces you to use relic song. So bad.
Mhh I get it
Fixed the grid and gear.
Hit 1 million
how is everyone dealing with heat wave burn?
Not gonna stress anymore on dc, already hit 1.3mil
Just reset if damage dealer or sing user gets burned
I hit the reset button
Heat wave hasn't burned my once, on any attempt
Simply don't get burned
Melony cant get burn rest no issue
Well, if Diantha/Gordie gets burnt, then that means lesser damage for them
If I am unable to get 150 tickets from Fairy weak and Ghost weak combined then I will have 300 tickets when datamine happens (May it be the 23rd or 26th)
So if there is one new DC unit each month, I will have the tickets to pull for them
Maybe first they need crit syncsš
ss diantha getting burn would nerf her sync damage tho
diantha 5/5 moment:
Gordie is 2nd best option and close at least
Add Gordie to the pile of gen/f2p units able to hit 1m
With premium teammates, but yeah 1M is 1M.
I don't think we should expect a new DC exchange unit every month
I was kind of hoping they stop adding any until we have long enough to 3/5 them all with the exchange
we already knew this from last DC right?
I hope there isnāt one every month but the trend of getting 1 one month after DC was added gives me bad vibes
Well that extra one was the 6th one right? It made ab even 3 sprint and 3 field I thought
We also got Evyln one month after BP units got introduced the first year.
We are already swimming in free units and they are adding more 4 and 5star BP. I doubt any more DC units for awhile
But the next bunch of new BPs were added next year.
Fingers crossed that no new DC units are added until next anniversary during Pokemon day
But I will be prepared if they decide to go āletās have players try to earn at least 300 tickets a month to keep up with the new DC units we will be addingā
I guess game really wants to balance my luck by burning one of my important units with Heat Wave
seeing the teams, doesnt look like i can hit 1m ā ļø
I'm caving and spending 1 yellow and 1 tech for SS Diantha at this point
is this dc that important
Not really. I've been waiting to upgrade SS Diantha for awhile now
no lol
I got close to 1.5 mil with SS Diantha first try
This DC is just reason for me to do it now.
no gordie?
i have, but no SC Steven lol
redlax or nc blue?
yeah i have both
Man, I hate not getting crits, but I'm no baby and not getting Soften Up
nc Blue diantha melony has the highest rn
Gordie nc blue and melony should get 1 mil
Had I not spam tapped, I would've probably gotten 1.9M+
But this set up is the best for it
Wat the hell melony 1/5?š„ø
And she comes with tools like Trip Wire and Lithic Acceleration
I could pull for diantha now but preff wait and get froma ani select it
I just remembered that melony and gordie being good together this dc is funny cuz they are mother and sun
Should be good as my second sync will be him?
But I'm gonna stop here because there's no ranking rewards
And as per usual, my main DD is using CS2
ss glad, wally and bp barry?
Redlax?
Where sync spammer
Just flexing my temporary glory
Sync countdown too much in that team
that fucking barry with his burn at turn 1
Will try once
not enough
Hmph
Will try once
I think this can go to 2M+ with the right skill gear and with SP3 Diantha
Diantha?
SS Diantha
I buzzer-beater Barry at 36 milliseconds, but like I said a while ago, I spam tapped too much that I clicked Melony's TM by mistake
smh I think my best option is nonex Gordie for this one, Silver isnāt doing anything
If Silver's base role was sprint, then he might've had a chance
You might have the wrong grid btw
It's really a shame! 4.5 anni being the first Field "& Sprint" MFs would be so cool.
Thereās also scorching sync 3 to be grabbed
Still someone used NC Silver to hit 1M with pure DPS run.
Do you need SC Steven to get 1 mil + with Gordie?
Oh my god, I am sad why I used Roark in Triple target DC earlier! 
There're two different teams both hit 1M: SC Steven + Melony and Red + Elio.
What are the ideal gears to use?
Skill gear that has epeen with multipliers
Wait are we supposed to burn for the extra sync multiplier or Gordy or is it not worth the animations
For SC Steven + Melony team you must burn the opponent bc it's literally the only way to spam sing.
For Red + Elio's team, not burn give me 900k so I think it's actually doable with not burn build, but the one who record video did use burn.
For my SCteven/BP Barry core, I went with paralysis instead
Managed to get 1 million
what about SC Silver?
NC Silver can reach 1M. There's a Reddit post IIRC
I guess this team is a no go lol
Looks like the sync grid is incorrect
Or you're failing to burn
Swap barry out for melony
Did you drop speed? The dmg seems you didn't do that.
I try your grid idea score lessš¤£
Refund
i hate this stupid game mode
Isnāt Elio better for the attack buffs?
Or Melony for theme skills
Does Gordie not increase his stats well?
Because if he can, Melony woild just be better
His tm buffs his attack by 2
My first team was Melony, Gordie and SC Steven..faired better lol
Red + Melony is always gauge nightmare.
Definitely not enough room lol
And Elio can buff +4 attack
So itās perfect
Should I try Elio with Redlax or SC Steven?
SC Steven
Dang
So close yet so far
Idk what I'm doing wrong to not match other people's scores š©
Anyone knows how is Diantha dropping -3 Spd on Barry in one Rock Tomb
trip twice in grid
Oh shoot I was looking for yellow tiles
That's why I missed it
Thanks
lol this actually lets me grab flame proof
Perfect
Thanks. Now to retry
so you have to use Rock Tomb 3 times to get Diantha to 6 Atk ?
In the vid, they used two Rock Tomb and one Zone
What's the third pair with gordie and melony?
almost there
That wasn't so bad
Wdym?
That's very good!
Lol
Hey guys so i want you to know how much i hate today's challenge

(i did 1mln in the end, with 2 miss from opponent, a refresh from snorlax, 2 b moves and 4 crit sync under rock zone from Diancie and no one was burned)
In the end
Replacement for steven?
Can you share you grids and gear?
I'ma be real I have no idea. He's the only one I know from the top of my head that can debuff speed and defense. You could replace with ss Diantha if you want but idk how good is that
One sec
top Diantha score now is 2.2M, I assume its with nc blue + Melony
SSR Cynthia should get something similar for Ghost 3v1 next week. They both use the same best team and you should still be able to get 7 syncs (just barely) for Ghost with Melony sing spam. Maybe will require some para rng.
But you also have the 2 self-SEUNs for extra damage. Not to mention Cynthias sync base power isnt mega-reduced
Could actually reach 2.4-2.5M if someone has godly Sinnoh/Ghost gear
Oh
Melony has fast track 2 and is only there to spam sing. 1 TM MPR for gordie and hope first move from Barry gets a burn from Gordie to enable the sing spam. Hope for no burns from heat wave.
Steven has Head start 1. Used both SEUN on syncs 2 and 3 on Gordie
+80 atk from skill gear to Gordie.
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Is there any video?
For diantha 2.2M
Let's see if Skinny will upload it
Ok
Really hard for me to do 8 syncs
I tried to replicate this but I ran out of gauge way quicker
But the vid showed no sign of even slowing down
Skinny dont upload since she hope some will be on ranked and try again
But one issue others like me now already allš¤£
All about dc how need play
Lithic Acceleration 3 helps gauge a lot
I was checking that out, but I'm not sure what I need to sacrifice
Probably Flameproof but that will add another layer of RNG
Okay ye figures it's that lol
And on this nao vid
In my initial clear I did not have it
Its one mistake
I only added it now after I used Trip Twice
Okay let me try again
You need to have Lithic Acceleration gridded on Diantha
Flinch is way more longer animation then sleep insta
That's what's also giving the gauges
Ye I checked that grid out earlier but was not sure how I'll grab it
I never run off gauge whit nc blue and melony on 6 speed
Do you sync with Melony or no?
Pretty sure it's something like this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15802/71902?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFDA0QERIUFR4jJjQ1&x=true
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You always sync whit support first
Thanks all. Now to go through 6 syncs w/o Soften Up
I managed
Unforunatly i dont have SS Diantha at a higher move lvl, so paulo was my best bet, do you think 5/5 Gordie or him would be better?
What move level is your SS Diantha?
Fuck this stage, wasted enough time on this
1/5 š¦
He burned my diantha at last 
Could have been 1m
Well ig this is it for me
Used some gears
My diantha grid
@warped gulch who needs a 2/5 Steven anyway
So Skinny did the team, but only managed 1.29M
https://youtu.be/RL-W8uHoygc?si=4U0VPbNRGtYCXrlr
not optimal, just initial clears
0:00 - SS Diantha 1.2 Mil
3:48 - Alt Selene 1.1 Mil
6:31 - Gordie 1 Mil
Tight af lmao
Saving if I want to do it in sometime
Not comfy as 2/5 
I e never hated 80% chance more until DC lol
I want sc steven
I was trying to roll for speedy entry
But I got that instead lol
Fastest sing spam you've ever seen
Does skinny have the highest score achievable for this DC?
Hell yeahhhhhhhh
Gmax gets seun too lol
5 or 6 seun? Jeez that was nice
Kewl
so Gordie's better than 3/5 NC Silver for this DC?
yes
Miles
Weird
Silver is base striker instead of basr sprint
Not candying SC Steven so I'll take this
Alright so I dont have ss diantha or sc steven, whats my ideal team for gordie
I just posted it 
in 3v1, tech nuke would usually win unless your set up takes too long to achieve
keyword 'i don't have sc stevenā
anyway i fucking love heat wave burns such a fair and balanced mechanic
Redlax it is
I'm sure VGC players will agree
i was on an actual good run, diantha MPRed her TM, Red MPRed his, heat wave burns colress and diantha
Fr fr
whats the gordie grid?
The game wasn't even started š
I'm still waiting for the Luckiest of the Unluckiest (3 man Burned by Heat Wave)
if that happens to me i will be complaining about it dw
10% Burn Chance
plus aoe penalty
This is stupid
What does more candies on Steven change?
team speed on entry and seun mpr
Melony needs speed
and the fact i struggled
WHILE HAVING +6 FUCKING SPEED
I can candy nc rosa tomorrow so i guess i can work from there with her charging inflictions
Is your Diantha 3/5?
Okay, got my run
Why not grid Lithic Acceleration
Y'all know that Selene and Elio's gear is super fucking useful for this right ?
because otherwise i can't grid trip twice 9
nice run there wow
Id probably drop tough cookie
i use it for the final b diamond storm
Why Tough Cookie?
for the last b diamond storm
It's not worth it
Youre not really getting defense rises
Yeah
And having more consistent gauge is more important imo
ah that does almost 1m
But sc steven seem to be doing better there
If got 2 mp from steven should be 1,8m or more
Miss for last sync super up and max move
How do you guys even do with him
cuz Gordie sounds like a pain to setup
Melony being so slow
So tell me, is SS Diantha or is Gordie better?
diantha
Just wondering seriously
wow i hate this dc lol
Barry really got the best shit to be annoying
Heat wave to burn
Speed buff to fuck with your need for speed debuffs
I like how it takes more than 10 turns if you want to proc something at 30%, but the moment you do one single sync, boom 20% no crit

I'll do it another day if I can. Besides that one, my responses feel slow enough I lose more time lol
And clutching at 36 milliseconds
Most para runs need 1-2 off them
Alright done for the day, funny how mother and son are meta this round 
are there any good alternatives for sc steven?
Maybe something like exr SS diantha, or maybe exr 3/5 dojo Gloria
I guess classic elesa may work
However SC Steven is optimal
Rebuffs, debuffs and seun
Can melony keep up with gauge?
I knew she's worth my pity, finally got 1m
damn alright, i think im doomed with this one then, i dont have of the characters you listed. thanks though!
if no SC Steven, you can use Colress
can you share the strat
i was gonna 3/5 her anyway
head start/adrenaline on Redlax and Elio
first rotation is: Body Slam (must para) > Acid, then Sing > Acid until first sync
just spam Elio's sing until Red's sync, then sing, Selene's TM, Red's TM before Selene sync
basically just the same as Melony strat but I use Elio since he is an Alolan for Selene's circle
if Elio gets burn, reset
if Selene gets burn in first heat wave, reset
Red is whatever since he only uses TM
I tried Chase 1/5 but he's not really great as his circle is less than Red's SEUN
ah thanks for this
nope, but it's enough if you just need a mil
enough time to just spam whatever tms you have for that last sync
it's just the last cycle that she can't sustain really
my realistic ceiling without EX Gordie is what, 700k ish? Iāll have to settle with that unless I double candy SS Diantha
and Iām very hesitant to spend candies with NC Hop a week away
i doubt its worth spending 2 candies for 30 or so DC tickets lol
Damn this was hard
grid for diantha?
what's the highest score atm?
Miss 1 steven mp for super for g max
So over 1,8m can be
And this whit crit2š«¢
So 2m whit super power 3 it should hit around whit max rolls
done
Ughhh
This is sad
There there⦠and despite being burned! Iām done with this DC. Donāt want to invest 2 candies into my 1/5 SS Diantha for now
it really do be like that sometimes
Gordie is not bad for it
Time for LG streak again, spent around 15 candies getting SP3 on Gordie
Im not gona waist sp 3 on him
lol
did better than kukui at least
melony doesn't come close to having enough gauge even with ft1 and +6 spe
kabu is fine for physical setup if burn isn't an issue
no speed buff tho
ig sonia best
Gordie can give rock type rebuff to enemies?
Not sure crit 2 is even worse, considering that is a 20% flat boost to the final gmax while super 3 is just an overall 4% boost to the sync
I mean compared to cs2
Only fire
Ohhh I thought rock too
Made it.
Okei thank you
Amazing
Can 1/5 Steven work, or the speed on entry is mandatory for melony gauges?
Not sure about speedy entry ? You can always use steven other tmp on gordie. The best for melony is pinpoit entry
goddamn, Diantha + SS Wally + BP Barry is so slow for Fairy 3v3
i only got 5 syncs.
exr'd wally?
no. though you kinda might want to give all damage syncs to Diantha for her AoE ?
is it possible my 1/5 NY Lisia will be better than 5/5 Diantha?
hmm. The -6 sync cd that wally offers (when caked of course) is making me think otherwise
plus getting -4 spa for diantha's multiplier before she starts syncing helps her damage
same goes for rebuff
seemed ideal tbh
didn't watch pykuo's vid tho
prob not outdoing paulo without ex (or having sc steven)
337k with Classic Red and both Diancies.
I think that's the best I've ever gotten against a single opponent.
Red and Diantha are fully invested, but SC Hilda is base.
So I guess I could swap Hilda for someone else, I mostly wanted to try her out after getting her recently.
by a lot
so today is what, throw paulo/ss diantha at it?
it's gordie, diantha, or very specific selene or silver teams
if your silver team got to +3M, then it can do this one
Gordie is a tech. Tech has WAY higher single target sync dmg than striker in general.
that's literally the sync spam strat tho 
up there with courtney too since she got 1M lol
makes up for their nonexistent dps
courtney still has mega penalty but she can set her own zone so it kinda makes up for it
I just find it weird that ppl still haven't figure this out after so many DC.
Ramming speed does not affect sync move damage right?
yes
The only way a tech lose to a striker in 3v1 DC is either it's bad inherently like Grant or it has something which let it lose too much time like LSteven
Yes as in it does or yes as in thatās correct
that's correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ijYEGMx0Mk
OH Gordie with pure f2p/genpool lineup 1M.
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How is lisia > gladion then
3/5 dc nemona
let's try this in 4 months when this stage comes back in rotation
Not pulling for nemona the unit is not good enough before anniversary units to pull immediately
pykuo has 1m gordie/sonia/melony
only thing i redeemed so far is 3/5 dc gladion which works great in rally and lg
i have all 5 of the original dc pairs 1/5
get em all 1/5 is my priority
so i'll grab blue next
I could get them all now if i wanted to
Oh they did 1M eventually! That's cool! Last time I'm aware it's 900k.
oh shit i misremembered
yeah it's 900k
brain rounded up for some reason
this but i dont have marnie instead
because marnie is trash ngl
How does this look
Probably should replace redlax with smth but idk what
Would it be crazy to go gordie diantha steven
I feel like my move gauge gonna be nonexistent
whats a spammer
like sing spam or twave/stun spore spam
with this team you're probably not going further than 500k
replace redlax with meloetta then?
sing spam needs the opponent to already have a status
diantha and steven cant apply one
oh duh
wait so what does that do?
did you never see the strat

i have not played for a while
ok
btw is melony ex needec
check this
You should watch few videos before trying.
It's massively different from how you usually play this game.
Not sure.. would SEUN would be better spendt on Gordie for a normal hit, or max move (at the end) ..?
normal hit as in rock tomb ?
Ye
uhh max move easily
i dunno, is it better to spend the seun on a 40 or 400 power move 
Uh... right ye 
Not sure I can improve that by much then.. maybe if I skip steven sync in favor of 1 more Gordie sync this time around..
huh why are you syncing with steven
he is a tech normal pair
his sync has 0 benefit
my guess is it's a 3/5 steven with adrenaline 2, but even then 
Yep.. was going kinda close with time first few attempts
Could practise it a bit
Some sync dmg on pin gear could help me but I'm out of feathers and stamina for them... 
Should really grind some LG for cookies tho..
would gordie be better than dianta for this
Diantha fn has the most points
The top 1 in the world fn uses diantha if i'm not wrong
It's not really appealing to me for trying harder if I already break 1M tho.
Unless I'm 1~2 tickets away from a new DC pair.
tryharding single target sucks lol
Me 3/5 Dahlia when each Water stage comes out: 
wait aoe fairy stage when ss nemona comes out...
like 5/5 or smth?
guys we can use this to predict anni units...

yea
damn
on anni it's gonna be dragon and next is water
giratina and manaphy confirmed
Ill skip her cuz i spent 36.6k gems on Nihilego, but... Ill just use Magearna lol
Diantha needs a different team to work. The current best is NC Blue + Melony.
also needs ex role
is nc blue zapdos
Yes
tbh no
I suppose yes, tho i don't really know if 2/5 is enough
You need paralysis
i mean you should 3/5 him for other reasons but he gets hostile environment at 2/5
alr
how necessary is it
for diantha pretty necessary
damn
having to refresh zone so often hurts her
Yes
She really fears to run out her zone, so any ways to keep the zone up is a massive upgrade for her.
have they released any better rock zone setters yet?
nope not really
hmm
she's probably the best recipient of field exr
her kit is overreliant on having zone up and at base she has major uptime issues
Errr UElio this month is a good rock zone setter. They just have a different approach.
How big Elio and Selene damage for this DC?
1M
Wow nice XD
like, barely 1M (from quaggles)
Oh need some investment
well yeah any 1m clear is going to need some investment
I thought 3/5 enough at first xD
elio and selene just happen to rely on their expansion tiles more than most
elio probably needs 4/5 more than selene does for zone extension
UElio also helps NC Silver to reach 1M. It's 1/5 Elio btw :3
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1er2r1z/elio_is_nc_silvers_best_friend_now_1_m_without/
wait a clear I can do that should score better than nonex gordie 
Whoaaaa Silver so strong
me when the last sync doesnāt crit: 
The most hated 80% chance lol
and not being able to ex means I either care more or less than usual and I can't tell which one it is
Whatās the benefit to elio over melony? The gauge refresh?
propelling move yeah
typical mgr passives don't proc on failed uses but that one does
but it doesn't proc every single time which makes it faster than bp barry/colress
also his buffs help too
In general Red is only optimal with Elio bc you would never have enough gauge w/o +6 team speed.
Interesting, so do I EX 2/5 Elio or 5/5 Melony? Have Barry, Rosa and Red EX(R) already
melony is priority for sure
elio doesn't gain much from his grid so move level hardly matters
Who is my best pair for this?
gordie by far
sc steven is ideal if you have him, over nc blue
redlax doesn't have enough gauge for melony
even with +6 spe gordie
sonia ends up being pretty good then
clear sheet in the pins will have all the info you need
Alright I got Sonia
video and grids
But she doesnāt give SEUN right
correct
she carries the gauge and has efficient defense debuffs and maxes out gordie's attack and crit without needing mpr
Alright cool Iāll try
Can you feel my AGONY!?
It seems we all love Barry's stage
yeah i caan feel it ;-;
I crited every syncs but didn't crit the fxxxing max move!
right there in the center
Is melony's burn+sing faster than barry's stun spore?
No
Burn animation costs extra time
It's just the second best option can inflict a non sleep status by himself
faster than burn + stun spore
gordie burn to set up melony sing is the standard strat
They're prob thinking no burn build with BP Barry.
I've seen SC Steven + Melony reached 1.7M, while I just never seen SC Steven + BP Barry so maybe this answer the question.
yeah no successes reported with bp barry
That's a lot less damage than i expected with 2.3 sync multiplier
What do you mean by success?
don't remember seeing many bp barry clears or if there were they weren't competitive with melony
Gordie how did your 1st sync deal less than 100k with 4 sync buffs and 2.3 multiplier and innate
Gordie hates you I guess
lol
Gordie bro stop missing your crit that aint stylish
my first sync with gordie was 200k o.o
around 190k to 200k
Ok on 2nd try his first sync did 130k
How do you even reach 200k
Does staraptor always start with heatwave?
Yes. The DC battles are scripted.
Wtf staraptor stop using heatwave and hit me
20k max move 
Dc nemona gaming
Melony spamming sing can rush a sync cycle in 15 seconds. That's fast.
is this the highest fully f2p one yet?
4/5 gordie?
Mine is 3/5
Is the highest I can get with melony, Sonia, gordie 3/5 (no one has any special lucky skill that speeds up sync) like 600k?
Maybe i can squeeze in more damage if i grid nemona
Pykuo did 900k with that team
Yeah I did, I think I saw gordie be 5/5 in every run
Thatās why I wasnāt sure how much I can get with 3/5
That might just be because they can't lower the move level
Thatās true
I don't think there's a lot of difference between 3/5 and 5/5 unless it's a pokefair unit with 5/5 grid expansion
I copied the dudes exact move cycle and got 400k less damage lol. Guess Iām doing something wrong. Besides not having an entry lucky skill
Go ahead, Barry, burn Gordie 
I probably missed some. Iāll keep tryin
What is the best pair for this? Please ping me
Probably 3/5 silver or 3/5 gordie
You want a status spammer
how did skinny get 2.3 mil 
NCSilver without UElio prob won't work.
If you use redlax then melony may work
I got a million with triple rock using silver....but now it's single.
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009003050801&s0=2&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcICQsMDyMlKSor&v1=025500013100&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18090102&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFGhsdICEl&v2=025400083900&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=4444&g2=AAECAwQFBhUYIyUoKSosLi8
- Gears: https://imgur.com/a/9XHPbRG
Sleep early to d...
Currently the only 1M clear w NC Silver is with UElio + SC Steven.
UElio compress too many thing that I don't think Red is enough to replace.
What grids?
My Steven is 1/5 but I have candy
What is the Lapras grid so empty?
nothing else in the grid matters
Because Melony only wants to spam sing
Prob speed
Then again, she doesn't have much speed grid so 
Yes.
Imma slap flameproof on melony
I also have 5/5 exr ssDiantha +10E... so how did Skinny sync like 3 more times? 
Nvm girlie does 3k on sync
Uhhh... why is Gordie only doing like 150k~200k per sync?
All crits too
-6 speed on foe, +6 speed on Gordie
I can replace Jasmine with Nemona but then Gordie will only be able to sync 3 times
Fuck it, gordie you're lv150 now
Why tf does he have gritty 3 the whole time?!
Jasmine, then 4x Gordie
With SEUN and burn too
3 sync by Gordie is enough to reach 1M, as shown by others.
right grid equipped? I've done that ._.
Need some -def though. -3 is the bare minimum for Red + Elio.
Yes
did you get off a max move?
in pykuo's video he interrupted Staraptor with sleep twice before burning
Yeah but he got 4 syncs as well (last one was over 400k I dunno how lol)
I learnt that the outcome of -3 def 3 sync = -0 def 4 sync in my run.
Oh so even with trained body 5 it's still that good?
It should only be a 22.5% difference at -6.
How tf did i manage 6 syncs
How much difference does the rock theme skill make (if I pair him with Nemona)
you don't need burn synergy
It's on the way to trip up 9
Another possibility is less roll of crit ig.
I'm just looking at pykuo's grid, he didn't use trip up
Because SC Steven debuffs speed
hmmm, how many seups did you use?
No clue but it's not working but it's decent....I guess?
This is -4 def 3 sync w CS2 Gordie.
I thought I did what the video said
But I don't understand the video it's too fast and I can't remember what it's doing
after setup, you sing, and at countdown 1 you use steven's trainer move to increase the sync move
Hm, I thought 2 supp EX was only worth it when syncing 4 or more times with the nuker
Burn really needs to gain us more pts considering how much time it costs.
I'm gonna try with Nemona then, for -def and rock zone instead of stupid SEUN MPR
The super effective up?
Or the other one?
And setup is tackle and leer from Steven, and just sing right?
1/5 sc steven only seun's the last 2 gordie syncs
Gordie does nothing except sync
gordie needs to click rock tomb twice to maximize cakewalk still (or once if you use trip up 9, in that team though gordie doesn't have energy for trip up)
Sometimes Gordie is not ready for the 2nd sync in my run, bc I slept the opponent once or twice to prevent early burn so no enough speed buff.
i c
Oh
sc steven for me also tackled twice while no evasion was active for teamwide speed
So set up is tackle, leer, sing, and rock tomb?
Then Lapras sync first
my setup with 2 HS1 was:
tackle tm sing with sleep on heat wave
b leer and tm queued before the requeue x speed all
tackle third tm queue, then melony syncs
b leer rock tomb sing
tackle rock tomb sing
b leer then sing spam and barry should be -6 speed
used mael's video for reference which used ppe2 melony which I don't necessarily understand
What is hs1?
head start 1
Oh I don't have that I don't do the gauntlet legendary thing....
Iirc they wanted speedy but rolled that instead and just decided to stick with it
Thanks
Missing sing is a little slower than just having it fail anyway iirc
I'll probably just leave it alone, I don't have time until the weekend to try this more indepth ā¹ļø
speedy entry makes sense because melony can be a bit cumbersome speedwise but mael's clear has an ugly singlequeue on first cycle which hs1 shaves
What is the best for the fairy area?
Forgot to say I used dc2 Red instead of the usual hs1 Red bc I really want more def debuff.
yeah 3x gordie syncs with 4 sync buffs is not enough

Did you sleep the opponent in the beginning? I found it helpful bc you don't want him being burnt too early.
Ye, had to sleep him for at least 1 sync cycle
I had 22 seconds for the last sync and somehow still missed it 
F2Ps are gonna jump towards BP Valerie for sure. She's self sufficient but slow in doing that and her Sword Dance gives her SEUN so you can ditch Redlax.
Ok what the heck, that was LEAGUES better than Holiday Jasmine
Nemona is very good for this one
Idk what jasmine does but nemona
- helps max out gordie's atk and crit
- provides rock zone
- helps melony spam sing with gauge accel
I got DC2 on her
Yeh same
Uhh all my screenshots have thr damage box obscuring debuff icons so idk what def stage i got staraptor down to
I might attempt to record a replicate of this run
unless i'm too lazy
Still wasn't able to reach 1M 
The rare case that burn extra score actually save the day!
Gordie the MVP this time around?
Nah, it's SS Diantha
Ngl I havenāt had much luck with diantha. Got a higher score with gordie since my Diantha is only 3/5 and has no ex role but it is also probably a skill issue
My Gordie isn't EX yet. He's one of the last 5stars I need to EX
gordie is mvp yes
In terms of scoring high, SS Diantha is best
Me and skinny
gotcha
good to know, i've been curious
Got 300k with Diantha. No, not one sync move, total
That should be a given
But I think what's most important for that was multiple para procs
Sounds like you didn't fulfill all sync multipliers.
How does selene do?
Possible 1M with her
What. how.
Tough Cookie 
It's like 90k first sync. 140k the second and that's it
You're not even setting up Cakewalk properly
Drop Tough Cookie for Rock Tomb: Trip Twice
Pick them in grid doesn't equal to fulfill them in battle tho.
How do you get 10 sync buffs? 3 support syncs?
They just sync 6 times with SS Dian. (4 from 2 ex support)
What allies work better for this then?
Wow, I got good luck with paralyze. In return, game decided to be an ass and not crit Diantha's sync 2 times in a row
Oh fuck this, I'm gonna get Soften Up
Replacing my Rock Wish: Initial Propulsion 1
Whatās the strategy here
Actually, if my Melony has Adrenaline as her LS, then I can get 8 syncs without relying on para proc
I'm being serious here. I almost got 10 sync buffs if it weren't for the lack of time
Not latter just animation take time
If I got a para proc, then it would've been guaranteed
And second thing this game mode its not base on amount off syncs but damage
If i got diantha i would score way more then skinny
Finally reach 2M
Hey, wait for me damnit
The clutch paralize just before last sync save this run
Sync once with Melony, once with Nemona then 3x with Gordie
Gordie's sync needs: +6 speed on Gordie (easy with Posthaste passive), -6 speed on opp (pick up Trip Up 9 on grid), burn on opp (50% chance when coalossal is hit)
Nemona has defense crush 2, Gordie has super powered 3 and Melony has pinpoint entry 2 (because missing Sing is slightly slower)
Thanks for the tip
Anyone have a decent 3/5 no role diantha run?
I dunno. Maybe I'll just call it here
Idk why I'm struggling with 3/5 diantha so much
Using SSDian and Gordie together is just not that good apparently.
Cuz one or the other nukes the stage, both can't together that I know of
NC Blue and Melony
What if I don't have NC Blue



